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That's CBD bargain Store. 36 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:14.240 Welcome to the WWE podcast, your place for the most 37 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:16.639 passionate wrestling analysis on the web. 38 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:21.439 Just turn Roman Heel what is WWE Waiting for another 39 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:22.479 wrestling podcast? 40 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:23.400 Put you to sleep. 41 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.639 You can count on the WWE Podcast to get you 42 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:29.879 engaged and asking for more. 43 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.840 I've been watching wrestling for over twenty years and that 44 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.560 was one of the best matches I've ever seen. If 45 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:38.560 you're easily offended, this may not be the show for you. 46 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:41.800 Whatever happened to the men being able to physically retaliate 47 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:46.039 against the women in WWE, this is a fantasy environment. 48 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:50.360 This is unlike any other wrestling analysis. So without any 49 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:54.960 further delay, let's get this show started right now. 50 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:59.439 Welcome to the WWE Podcast. On this Thursday, June twentieth, 51 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:04.400 two nineteen, the last day of spring, so summer actually 52 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:08.080 starts tomorrow, the longest day of the year for daylight anyway, 53 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:12.039 and after that, sadly, things start to turn the other 54 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:16.080 way until we get to the winter beginning of winter 55 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:19.599 in December. So longest day of the year tomorrow, Enjoy it. 56 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:21.919 It'll be light at least where I am until probably, 57 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:24.439 Like I mean, you can see the sunlight up until 58 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:29.120 nine point fifteen at night. It's just nuts. So enjoy 59 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:31.840 that and enjoy this podcast as well, because we have 60 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:34.159 a great one for you. Might be and I keep 61 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.439 saying this, but I keep topping myself the longest show 62 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.800 in the history of the WWE podcast, my co host 63 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:44.039 Anthony DeMarco and I we chatted for over two hours 64 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:48.919 about the status of WWE, the current product, Ron spack 65 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.840 Down dove a little bit into the past because a 66 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.080 lot of the past is now relevant for what's going 67 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:57.439 on now. So some cool tidbits there, and of course 68 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:01.080 we give our predictions for the Stomping Grounds pay per 69 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:02.919 view this Sunday, so we'll get you all ready for 70 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:07.240 that with some interesting selections. And what is a pay 71 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:10.520 per view that on paper looks very predictable, And so 72 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:12.560 we've got a couple of swerve picks for you there 73 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:16.160 and I think you'll enjoy it. But again, guys, if, 74 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:18.399 by the way, if you guys don't like ads in 75 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.439 the show and you're like, oh my god, too many ads. 76 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:23.480 Easy way to resolve that, Number one, You could just 77 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.160 use your skip button on your phone, or you could 78 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:29.319 get an ad free experience for every single show that 79 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:32.959 I've ever put out on Patreon, and you go to 80 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:36.800 patreon dot com slash WWE podcast and you can get 81 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:39.199 all these shows ad free. There's not one plug. 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So this 99 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:33.879 will be the final show of the week, but I'll 100 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:35.720 be starting a new week in just a few days 101 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:39.519 on Sunday when I do my Wrestling Nostalgia and or 102 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:42.040 what If segment. I haven't decided yet, so what I've 103 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:44.279 done what I've decided to do, just so that you 104 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:47.560 guys know. My schedule is. On Sunday, I'll be doing 105 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:50.879 my typical what if and or wrestling nostalgia segment, and 106 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.800 then I will be taking Monday off from doing audio, 107 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:57.120 and then Tuesday I'll be doing a raw show. Wednesday 108 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:01.079 I'll be reviewing SmackDown Live. Thursday will be my typical 109 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:04.160 co hosting spot, and then I'll take Friday and Saturday off, 110 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:06.079 so you guys will get me four days a week. 111 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:08.759 This week. I did experiment with five. I think four 112 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:11.560 is more realistic for me just in terms of time, 113 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.720 and I have other projects going on, so I think 114 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:21.399 that Sunday, Monday or Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, So Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 115 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:26.199 Thursday will be your audio audio pleasure of wrestling, and 116 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:29.319 so I'll be off three days a week, working four 117 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.560 days a week for you. So just so you guys know, 118 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:34.399 and thank you guys for listening. Thank you guys for 119 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.000 making this a great show, a big show, and much 120 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:39.680 more to come. As you guys know, this show is 121 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:43.000 just getting started. So no further Ado. Let's just get 122 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.639 you to the conversation with myself and Anthony and everybody. 123 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.879 Enjoy your weekend. I'll be back Sunday. Take care. Okay, 124 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:53.600 Welcome to the WWE podcast, and this week I have 125 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.720 my third co host in the rotating cast of three, 126 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.600 Anthony DeMarco, who is officially on the show co host 127 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.199 for the first time, and it's a blast to have 128 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:06.399 him here. So Anthony, welcome to the show, and congrats 129 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:09.720 on being the official co host of the ww podcast. 130 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:11.519 Thank you so much, Matt. 131 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:14.439 It's a real honor to get this position. I'd just 132 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:17.480 like to thank everyone who voiced their opinion, who supported 133 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:19.240 me and want to be wanted me to be a 134 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:22.279 permanent co host, So thank you all, and especially thank 135 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:22.800 you Matt. 136 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:27.040 No, it's it's it's always great when I have an 137 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.319 opinion that agrees with the masses. And you were one 138 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:30.800 of the three that people were like, oh, you got 139 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:32.360 to bring them back on, you got to make make 140 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:35.120 him a co host. You guys had good chemistry, and 141 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:37.480 so I was like, yes, all right, so I don't 142 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:40.759 have to pick somebody that I didn't feel was the 143 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:44.000 best choice. And I got my wish. So it's a 144 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:46.160 it's a blast to have you on and we certainly 145 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.680 don't have any shortage of things to talk about this week. 146 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:53.000 There are a lot of things going on in WWE. 147 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.800 The some of them good, some of them not. With 148 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:00.759 the lowest SmackDown rating in the history of that's a 149 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:05.920 non holiday. That is a telling tale sign for WE, 150 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:08.600 And you can't really blame it on any kind of 151 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:12.319 sporting event. You can't blame it on Memorial Day, fourth 152 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:15.959 of July. And so we'll get to smack Down live. 153 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.920 But so hey, they let me just ask you this, 154 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.639 out of this entire week in WWE, what are some 155 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:25.079 of the things that really stood out and that you're like, 156 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:26.759 we need to talk about this. 157 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:30.240 Well, I think the biggest thing, and I'll start with 158 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:34.080 the positive is I actually like Seth Rollins's kind of 159 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:37.679 changing character with the chair shot the business that he's 160 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:38.399 on right now. 161 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:41.679 It kind of adds a new element to his character. 162 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:43.679 I feel like he was getting a bit stale there 163 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.279 for a bit and it was just kind of getting repetitive. 164 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:48.440 But it kind of gives him almost like a Steve 165 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:52.039 Austin anti hero type of thing that I'm really liking. 166 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:54.759 And I guess and then on a bit on the 167 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.159 negative side, event it's just kind of like the Shane 168 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.399 McMahon in your face over over and over and over 169 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.240 and over and over and over again of raw and SmackDown. 170 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:08.600 It's just the same thing. It's like it's just getting 171 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:11.720 repetitive a bit, and I'm just kind of getting tired 172 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:12.000 of it. 173 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:13.200 So there's my big. 174 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.279 Positive and there's my big negatives for this week so far. 175 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.080 And so I want to touch on that. I mean, 176 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:22.559 I I'm with you about the Shane McMahon deal. I 177 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:25.120 was a proponent and still I am a proponent of 178 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:27.799 Shane McMahon staying heal. I think he's doing a very 179 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:30.399 good job as a heel. But the problem is, Shane 180 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:32.159 McMahon is not the future, right. Shane mcman' is a 181 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:34.759 forty nine year old son of the promoter who is 182 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:38.559 the head of this stable that has no name that 183 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:41.240 I know of that is that should be. And it's 184 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:45.799 starting to transition to focusing on the wrestlers Drew McIntyre 185 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:50.519 and Elias who's just kind of there. So yeah, I'm 186 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.360 with you about the Shane deal. I understand what they're 187 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.200 going forward with the Heat, but at some point this 188 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:57.840 is going to need to come to an end, there 189 00:09:57.840 --> 00:09:59.919 needs to have a faction that stands up to them 190 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.480 and and just dismantles them and they all go their 191 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:06.919 separate ways. But I'm with you on that. The chair 192 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:09.720 shots with Seth Rollins, I'm all for too. I mean, 193 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.440 that was a nice change, a nice big difference from 194 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:15.360 what we have seen from Seth in the past of 195 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.320 just kind of like talking and there was no real aggression. 196 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.279 There was no sense of urgency from Seth. It felt 197 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.720 like and he has seemingly snapped and become the chairman 198 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.399 of w WE and gone around and just pummeled anybody 199 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.720 that has thought about being a special guest referee for 200 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.600 Baron Corbyn. So I really liked that aggressiveness from Seth 201 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:38.960 to It needed to be done. As you said, Seth 202 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:42.639 has been feeling a bit stale and adding this to 203 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:46.759 his his character is just another layer that we need 204 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:49.639 to see from Seth. We needed that, and I was 205 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:52.159 glad to see it Monday night and obviously bleeding into 206 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:52.679 Tuesday night. 207 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:57.039 Yeah, and it brings almost like a realistic sense to 208 00:10:57.080 --> 00:11:01.519 the character because anyone who's constantly being shadowed by a monster, 209 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.919 by a guy like brock Lesner and toyed with the 210 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.279 potential cash, and then you have Baron Corbin just always 211 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:12.120 kind of like busting his balls in the background and 212 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:15.120 like taking cheap shots at him. So it makes sense 213 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:19.720 that eventually any normal person would come to this conclusion 214 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:21.480 where you would snap eventually. 215 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:23.120 So I like that it. 216 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.000 Shows it's more like of a realistic feel from seth 217 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:29.080 Rawlins as opposed to just the repetitiveness that we both 218 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.679 alluded to. But then to just go back to the 219 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:34.600 shame thing a bit. I really do like what Chain's doing. 220 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:37.759 I've always been a big Shane McMahon fan, and I 221 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:41.039 like the whole faction thing. I think factions are kind 222 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.960 of a lost art in the WWE these days, or 223 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.919 if they are, if they do get assembled, they're quickly 224 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:50.519 died out, like that awful faction the League of Nations 225 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:53.200 way back in twenty fifteen or what was it. 226 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:54.759 But yeah, I like it. 227 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.080 I like that now it's transitioning onto Drew McEntire. But 228 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.679 I think just as a result of this stupid wildcard rule, 229 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.080 it's kind of getting diluted a bit that we're seeing 230 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.600 it on both shows for more than once per show, 231 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:09.360 so I just wish they would. 232 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:09.799 Tone it down. 233 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:12.519 Of it because I loved the idea, I love the 234 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.360 people in it, I love McIntyre, I love the revival, 235 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:17.840 but I just think it's being a bit too diluted. 236 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:21.159 And you mentioned wildcard. What are your thoughts on the wildcard. 237 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:25.639 I'm hearing a lot of conflicting opinions, very strong opinions 238 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:28.480 one way and the other. What are your thoughts on 239 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:29.440 this wildcard rule? 240 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:34.360 If it was used to the pure definition of it, 241 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:38.000 just like three random wrestlers per week could go on, 242 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.559 maybe I could get behind it. Like I told you 243 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:43.440 the first time I was on the show, before I 244 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.360 was a permanent co host. I grew up in the 245 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.639 ruthless aggression era, and that's when the brand split was 246 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.440 in full force, and that was like no one crossed 247 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.120 over brands. The only only time you saw crossovers was 248 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:59.399 at the Royal Rumble. Now I understand it's not like 249 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:02.879 that anymore, but and I know they're more loosely with 250 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:04.879 the rules, So like, I'm trying to be open to 251 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:07.879 the idea. You know, times change, but it's not even 252 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.480 random three on each shows. It's now four or five 253 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:13.840 or six, and it's always the same four or five 254 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:17.320 or six they're just using the wild card to use 255 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:21.080 the same wrestlers weekend week out on both shows. It's 256 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:25.399 not changing. It's always Samy Zene going to SmackDown, Alexa 257 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:28.320 Bliss going to SmackDown, Drew going to SmackDown. It's always 258 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.559 Roman coming to Raw, Kevin Owen's coming to Raw, Bailey 259 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.559 coming to Raw. It's not being creative, and I thought 260 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:38.120 the whole point was to give more creativity to the 261 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.440 writing and make it more unpredictable, but it's actually become 262 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:46.399 the exact opposite. It's predictable, same thing, same thing, every week, 263 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:50.679 and I absolutely hate it, Honestly, I can't stand it. 264 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.799 And we're not seeing other wrestlers being used, like we've 265 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:57.799 barely seen Cedric Alexander since he came up, and he 266 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:00.720 was supposed to be like the big graduation from Cruiser. 267 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:02.799 Weight to Raw. So yeah, I just think it's done 268 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:04.120 more harm than good. 269 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:08.519 And it's also I think an admission, although it would 270 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:11.120 never be admitted, but it's kind of in a subset 271 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:15.480 admission by WWE that they're of their failure to create 272 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.639 big stars that can hold down both brands, so they 273 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:20.600 have to take their biggest stars and put them on 274 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:23.720 both shows, and as you just said, you already know 275 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:27.240 who's going to be there. So this quote, this idea 276 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:29.600 that the wild card is supposed to add this this 277 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:33.240 unpredictability factor, that anything could happen at any time, it's 278 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:36.200 done the opposite, because you know which stars are going 279 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:38.559 to show up, and they've taken their top stars and 280 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:42.159 just diluted the entire product with those stars. And now 281 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:46.679 you've overexposed them on both shows twice a week, so 282 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:50.480 you're doubling down on the problem by doing this, which 283 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:53.559 is it's really unbelievable when you think about it, that 284 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:55.919 this rule was supposed to be doing the opposite of 285 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:59.840 what it's actually doing. And if it was, as you said, 286 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:02.799 implemented to a t in the exact way that it 287 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:07.120 was meant to, Yes, this could be a very cool 288 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:10.639 idea if NXT stars could do it. Have we seen 289 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:13.320 an NXT star come up and utilize this wildcard rule? 290 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.639 I mean anybody. And furthermore, and I've said this before 291 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:18.159 and I won't get too much more into it, but 292 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:22.759 how is this done? Nobody has explained to the fans 293 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:27.000 how it's decided who shows up. They just I don't 294 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:29.639 understand as it first come for surf first to the building. 295 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:34.159 Nobody's explained this, so that furthermore is diluding this whole 296 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:39.159 wild card thing, which is just it's nonsensical. But as 297 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.919 you said, I would love them to go back to 298 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:45.399 totally sprit Lands Sprint split brands. I'll get it right. 299 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.960 And they just have one world living in it of 300 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:52.759 itself and an island another island, and they never ever 301 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:56.320 ever cross paths unless there's an absolute big reason to 302 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:59.159 do it. Maybe it's WrestleMania. As you said, I remember 303 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:03.120 when Goldberg and brock Lesner were on separate brands, and 304 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:05.000 I mean back in two thousand and four when they 305 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:07.320 had their terrible match of WrestleMania twenty. But I remember 306 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:09.360 how crazy it was to see, oh my god, Goldberg's 307 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:11.639 on SmackDown. He's not supposed to be here, and it 308 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:14.159 just felt like it felt much more exciting when it 309 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.240 genuinely felt as if somebody was invading the other opposing 310 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:22.080 brands show. So we don't have that. Nothing surprising, you know, 311 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:24.759 is gonna be there. And this whole thing is not 312 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:28.360 even a wild card, it's just a it's a quasi 313 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:31.919 brand split. But really there's no brand spit anymore. 314 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:34.120 So oh yeah, and that's exactly it. 315 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:37.480 And it just feels like they knew the ratings were down, 316 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.480 so they wanted a reason to get top superstars from 317 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.679 both brands and just use them on Raw. 318 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:45.159 And smack them. 319 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.039 Like look at this past week on Raw Daniel Bryan 320 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.080 Verus seth rawlins of that kind of match, zero build 321 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.360 to it, no logic. 322 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.360 Behind it, like it makes no sense and you're just 323 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:57.000 wasting it. 324 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:59.679 And was it a good entering, Matt, of course it 325 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.480 was two of the best wrestlers there, But you're just 326 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:06.720 wasting this to get cheap ratings, in my opinion, because 327 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.519 you advertise this big time match and I just I can't. 328 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.640 I think you're you're a big proponent of this. I 329 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:16.880 don't care if the match is super good, if the 330 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:21.160 story is garbage or in this case, nonexistent, I'm not 331 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:22.279 gonna care about it. 332 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:23.240 I won't. 333 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.759 I've never been a big guy of like, Okay, well 334 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.839 we'll throw two really technical guys together out of nowhere 335 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:33.720 and you'll draw attention. No, I'll get behind a really 336 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:35.920 good story even if I know that the in ring 337 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:40.759 product won't be its best, Like shit, Shane McMahon versus 338 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:44.799 Vince McMahon at Wrestling A seventeen that like, we knew 339 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:47.960 that the entering product wasn't gonna be too good, But 340 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:50.359 I to this day go back and watch that match 341 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.279 because I remember the build to it and the build 342 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:56.240 of Shane coming to his mother's aid and all this 343 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:59.319 in the street fight and Dad versus Son and this 344 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:02.440 and that, and now with this Wildcard world like except 345 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:05.880 for like the same stories of Roman against Shane or 346 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:09.720 Lexa Bliss against Bailey, and then somehow, some way, Kevin 347 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:13.519 Owens and Sammy Zine always weasel their way in as 348 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.240 just guys who lose. Because that's why I just feel 349 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:18.680 like they are now guys to put over the good guys. 350 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.839 I don't know, it's it's just really bothersome to me 351 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:25.640 that they're just using this to be creative, but it's 352 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:27.759 the opposite, and it's just the same thing week in 353 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:30.759 week out, and just the stories have just gotten so 354 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:32.960 diluted and just poorly written. 355 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.039 And and we're not gonna beat it at Horser. But yeah, 356 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.279 I mean, we've said everything there is to say in 357 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:41.359 terms of the wild Card execution, and I don't think 358 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:43.839 we're being unfair. This is just the truth. I mean, 359 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:46.960 the fact that you can bring a team over and 360 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:49.519 only consider them as one out of the four wild 361 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:54.240 cards is preposterous because why doesn't everybody just say they're 362 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:56.480 a team and oh, we're all just considered one. So 363 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.559 I mean, like, it's just the ridiculousness of this and 364 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:01.279 the fact that they don't ever take the time to 365 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:04.759 just give us basic details of how this works is 366 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:09.799 maddening and insults fans intelligence. And it's lazy, sloppy booking 367 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:15.079 to allow themselves leeway to book however they want without regulation, 368 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:17.720 to fit whatever story they want to fit at the time, 369 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:20.119 even if there's no parameters for it. It's it's the 370 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:23.920 worst possible storytelling that you could make if you're if 371 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:27.359 you're an author of any book. It's just terrible. So 372 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:29.920 moving on, though I want to, I'm going to move 373 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:31.640 away from this because I could, I could rint about 374 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:32.839 the wild card for a while, I'm not going. 375 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:33.160 To do that. 376 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.480 So what about Dolf Ziggler? Do you are you are 377 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:40.079 you thinking like, hey, does Dolf Ziggler even belong in 378 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.680 the main event picture? Do you think that Dolf Ziggler 379 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:45.160 is deserving. Do you like that he is saying it 380 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.119 should have been me? What's your take on Ziggler and 381 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:49.000 Kofi Kingston. 382 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:55.640 Oh, well, I've always like Dolf Ziggler because I he's 383 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:57.960 kind of a diverse character. You can kind of give 384 00:19:58.039 --> 00:20:01.000 him anything and he'll spin it into gold if you will. 385 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:04.039 But I, as we talked about when I came on 386 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:06.359 the show about a month ago, I really liked at 387 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:09.079 the beginning, I feel like this should have been me 388 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:13.039 saying the promos. It's starting to get a little bit repetitive, 389 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.240 but I still like it. But even though he's kind 390 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:18.839 of referring back to like his screaming thing now the 391 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:22.319 one thing about golf. And I'm happy that he's getting 392 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.640 a second match because I thought it was just gonna be. 393 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:28.200 A one and done in a Super Showdown, But I. 394 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:32.119 Still feel like he's just a placeholder challenger, and it 395 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:35.920 just it gets that feeling because he doesn't really like 396 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:39.039 even though he's the number one contender for the w Championship, 397 00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:41.880 he's still kind of just on the side of it. 398 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:44.599 Like he comes out at the first segment of the show. 399 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:47.319 He wrestles a match against Zevier Woods, and he's done, 400 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.759 and then the guy who he's challenging for the belt 401 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:53.559 on Sunday is often a completely irrelevant tag team match. 402 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:56.799 So even though I like for the most part what 403 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.960 he's doing, and I think that he should have been there, 404 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.319 no play intended, even though I think that he belongs 405 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.279 to be there, it just it gives off this feel. 406 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:09.079 And this is more on the writing than him, that 407 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:13.119 I'm not taking him seriously as a potential winner, and 408 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:16.240 either're just kind of finding a placeholder challenger until they 409 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:19.720 can find something more concrete heading into SummerSlam. 410 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:23.200 Yeah, he does. He feels like a placeholder. And I 411 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:24.799 said this last night on the show that I did 412 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:29.440 with for the SmackDown review, is that Dolph Ziggler. He 413 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:33.039 the thing is, his character has been educated to fans 414 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.559 for how many years now that he can wrestle his 415 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:40.279 ass off, he can sell his ass off, he can 416 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:43.720 cut a good promo. He's not He's not a bad character. 417 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:45.960 He's not bad on the MIC. He's decent on the MIC. 418 00:21:46.119 --> 00:21:48.920 I mean, aside from his screaming, and even when he's screaming, 419 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:51.319 you're still paying attention. There are certainly worse guys in 420 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:53.640 the business on the on the promo than Dolf Ziggler. 421 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:56.880 He's I would say good to above average. And so 422 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:59.920 the problem though is, no matter what how good is promo, 423 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:02.519 no matter how good he is in the ring, you 424 00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:05.960 just know, because of years and years and years of 425 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.640 booking that Dolf Ziggler is going to lose the big 426 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:11.400 match because we have been educated to believe that, and 427 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:14.200 I have no reason to believe otherwise until proven wrong. 428 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:19.200 Dolf Zigler's character has been a victim of creative booking 429 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:23.359 and just booking that has destroyed the credibility of his character. 430 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:25.480 Anytime he tells us he's going to win, he has 431 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:28.000 to win, I will beat you. It's like, but you're 432 00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:30.559 not going to Like Dolph, let's be real, You're not 433 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:32.759 gonna win. We all know you're not going to win. 434 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.160 And that's the problem with his character. Beyond the fact 435 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.640 that he is one of the best in the ring 436 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:42.319 and has been for quite some time, and is a 437 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:45.039 he can make his opponent look like a million bucks. 438 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:49.839 That's a huge asset. But as you just said, Kofi Kingston, 439 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:53.599 I think is on a roll and he is a 440 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:59.359 people's champion, no pun intended, and he anytime that and 441 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:01.759 I've said this before or two. Anytime Kobe Kingston or 442 00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:05.440 anytime a champion wins the championship at WrestleMania, it's a 443 00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:08.880 championship win that needs to stick for six months. And 444 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:10.880 I really believe that you can't just have a champion 445 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:13.359 win it WrestleMania and then have them lose the next 446 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:16.359 month or two months after, because then it really means nothing. 447 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:18.920 WrestleMania is the reset button. Wrestlemani's the end all be all, 448 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:21.240 And on top of it, it doesn't hurt that Kobe 449 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:23.559 Kingston's a black man. I mean, let's be honest, he 450 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:29.119 is the perfect candidate right now for WWE's progressive ideology 451 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.359 to play Kate, Hey, we have an African American champion. 452 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:34.440 I mean, I don't think he's being used for that, 453 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:37.279 but it certainly doesn't hurt that he is the face 454 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:39.759 of WWE right now. There's a lot of things going 455 00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:42.000 against Dolf Ziggler, and those are just a couple of them, 456 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:45.440 but overall, look, I am a fan of Dolph Ziggler 457 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:47.559 to a point. I'm not gonna go there and scream 458 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:49.960 my face off like a thirteen year old girl for him. 459 00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:51.519 But I think that he has a lot of good 460 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:54.839 qualities and it's just unfortunate that they didn't strike while 461 00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:56.960 the iron was hot. And when I think the iron 462 00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:59.000 was the most hot for him was I think it 463 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:01.519 was the night after Wrestleler he had twenty seven don't 464 00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:03.599 quote me on maybe twenty seven to twenty eight, and 465 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:06.279 he cashed in and won the World Heavyweight Championship against 466 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:09.359 Alberto del Rio. And he was a placeholder champion then 467 00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:11.839 and he feels like a placeholder contender now. 468 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:16.279 Yeah, because if I if memory servedn't correctly, they ended 469 00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:18.680 up at the end of that feud, it culminated in 470 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:22.559 a double term turn with him in Alberto do Rio, 471 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:25.200 if I'm not mistaken, where like in one match they 472 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:30.519 swapped heel and face positions, and honestly, like that whole feud, 473 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.559 like I just hated Alberta do Rio. I thought he 474 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:36.200 was the most boring thing I'd ever seen, and they 475 00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:39.359 were just kind of recreate Eddie Guerrero to be honest, 476 00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:42.799 but yeah, to get back on Dolf Ziegler, like it's 477 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:45.880 just kind of been the same thing over and over 478 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:49.119 and over again with him. I did think they were 479 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:53.119 kind of rejuvenating it with his initial face run when 480 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:56.039 they first did the brand split in twenty sixteen, or 481 00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:57.559 the second brand split, I must. 482 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:00.480 Say, because he was the initial number. 483 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.720 One contender to Dean Ambrose at the time on on 484 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.960 SmackDown to the w W Championship. They actually had a 485 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:09.119 title match at SummerSlam that year, and then he kind 486 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:12.000 of had that feud with the Mizz of the Intercontinental Championship, 487 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:14.480 and I thought that there was going places, and then 488 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:16.440 it just kind of died again. 489 00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:17.960 And then he did the whole. 490 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:21.319 Like the no music thing, the no entrance themes thing, 491 00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:24.000 and then he walked out after winning the US titles. 492 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:27.359 So I just found that his character has been kind 493 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.079 of hard to follow. He's all over the place. He 494 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:34.079 was somewhat relevant when he teamed with Braun and McIntyre 495 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:36.839 last year when he was on Raw. It's just and 496 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.119 I feel bad because I do like the wrestler for 497 00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:42.119 the most part, but it's just been way too hard 498 00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:43.880 to follow because it's been all over the place. 499 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:46.359 He's been faced, he's been heel, he's. 500 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.200 Been kind of cocky and arrogant, or now he's kind 501 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:49.759 of psycho. 502 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:53.519 It's just too much and I just I don't see 503 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:54.079 how there's. 504 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:57.119 Any way that he actually wins this title or how 505 00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:59.200 I can even take him seriously. 506 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:01.920 You can't. And that's a good point too, that his character, 507 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:04.839 there's zero consistency in his not just as you said 508 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:08.400 heal and face, just his personality, like we don't know 509 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.240 who he is outside of a great in ring wrestler. 510 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.559 We just don't know who he is. And I'm sure 511 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:20.640 that him as a person is extremely frustrated with Creative 512 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:24.079 just not giving him a clear path and saying, yeah, 513 00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:27.440 you're this this month, this next month, but you know, 514 00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:29.519 we'll see how this goes, and then we pull back 515 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:32.680 and then there's just stop start, stop, start, go over here, 516 00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:35.200 go over there, And when you get to that point, 517 00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:37.440 no matter how good you are in the ring, fans 518 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.960 get complacent. They just go who cares? I mean, like this, 519 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.359 this guy's clearly not the guy that WW is gonna 520 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:45.960 get behind. How can we get behind him if we 521 00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:49.079 know that he's going nowhere? And that's exactly where Dolf 522 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.519 Ziggler is. And it's really unfortunate because I really think 523 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.200 he could have been He could have been a top, 524 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.240 top guy had they given him a serious run and 525 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:02.240 go all in with him at one point, but they 526 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:06.079 never have. So let's let's get to something that we 527 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:08.319 like and something that I like. And I think I 528 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.680 brought this up last time, but it is a shining 529 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.319 light in my week of WWE, and that's a Firefly 530 00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:17.440 fun House. Now I can't remember. Are you a fan 531 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:18.519 of the Firefly fun House? 532 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:19.640 Yes? Very much? 533 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:23.119 So Okay, now now that we're what almost two months, 534 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.839 probably closing in maybe on two months of this, are 535 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.440 you still as big of a fan? Are you ready 536 00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.400 to just say, oh my god, just debut you already? 537 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:31.319 Where do you stand with this? 538 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.599 I've loved it. 539 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:38.240 There was a point where that one episode of him 540 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:40.519 when he was like dancing and it was almost like 541 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:44.960 a your music video and I looked at my girlfriend, 542 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:46.400 I'm just like, did we take LSB? 543 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:47.160 And I didn't know. 544 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.079 But on his ears note, there was a point where 545 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:54.799 I was like, Okay, it's hanging old. But it actually 546 00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:57.880 worked out perfectly because they dropped the whole fiend thing 547 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.200 for a bit and there's either two or three each 548 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.720 where you didn't really see him and now he pulls 549 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:03.279 you back in. 550 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:04.920 And this episode was just. 551 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.359 Amazing because now it's kind of it's starting to make 552 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.759 a lot more sense that Like, from what I'm taking 553 00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:13.119 from it is that he's saying like he was always rejected, 554 00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.960 so he created this altered ego to protect himself from it, 555 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:20.519 And I just think it's amazing. I think they're really 556 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:24.440 pushing the boundaries here of PG Again, I think you 557 00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.559 shared the same concern, or the only concern I may 558 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.200 have is that I just hope that when he finally 559 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:34.160 does debut, they execute it properly, because they've built it 560 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.599 so well, better than anything they've done in the last 561 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.160 number of years, that it would just kill me to 562 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.920 see them just butcher it when he finally does debut. 563 00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.200 But as of right now, I think it's the best 564 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:45.920 thing they have going. 565 00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:52.759 WWA cannot, under any circumstances screw this up. They can't. 566 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.400 This is one of the best things, as you said, 567 00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.920 that they have had going in I can't remember the 568 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.079 last time, when is the last time that WWE has 569 00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:06.839 utilized Vignette's videos, promos whatever to this extent to where 570 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:11.640 there's this much anticipation for not only the video itself, 571 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:13.920 but also when is he going to debut? I can't wait, 572 00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:15.839 what's gonna happen? How's it gonna be. Is he gonna 573 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:17.359 come out in a sweater vest? Is he gonna come 574 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:18.839 out as a fiend? How's it gonna work. Is he 575 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.480 gonna be like Finn Balor and kind of a regular 576 00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:22.160 guy but bring out the demon when he needs to? 577 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.720 I don't know, And I think that's the interesting part, 578 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:29.200 but also the part that I'm scared of, Like I'm 579 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.640 nervous that they are going to really really mess this up, 580 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.119 and they can't. And bray Wyatt has done an amazing, 581 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.759 amazing job going all in with this character. Like when 582 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:43.920 I look at bray Wyatt, I believe that he's like 583 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.480 that in real life. He's gotten me to that point 584 00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:51.319 where I believe that he is this crazy. Of course, 585 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.519 I still know it's fantasy. But at the same time, 586 00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.480 when I'm watching, I get lost, and that's what I 587 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:01.119 miss watching WWE, And I just I watch this Firefly 588 00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:03.480 finause every week and I'm looking for Easter eggs and 589 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.960 I'm looking for hints, and there are there's so many 590 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.480 layers to every episode that he's done that you could 591 00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:14.119 spend hours every week dissecting just that episode because of 592 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.480 just all the all the different things that he's put 593 00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:20.759 in each episode, between the characters' names and the things 594 00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.960 that he says, the looks that he gives, the way 595 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.319 he says things. There are so many different things that 596 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:29.480 you could dissect that it's just it's so complex, but 597 00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:31.839 it's easy to follow at the same time. And he 598 00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:35.480 is he's a he's a master at making you just 599 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.759 in pulling you in right now. He's he's masterful at that, 600 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:42.640 and he has got us hooked. And it's been two months, 601 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.880 I think around two months, probably a little bit less, 602 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.720 but it's been to the I don't think it's I'm 603 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.319 not to the point of, oh my god, I'm sick 604 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.559 of this. Let's just get him in the in the ring. 605 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:54.640 I want this to go as long as it needs 606 00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.480 to go, and I want creative behind the scenes and 607 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.279 Vince McMahon to make sure they have all of their 608 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.839 ducks in a row and have a long term plan 609 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.440 for bray Wyatt, not just well, we're debuting against I 610 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:10.119 don't know Matt Hardy and see how he does. No, no, no. 611 00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:13.960 They need to have a vision and stick by their 612 00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.039 guns and go all out with this character and see 613 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:20.240 their plan through, which hopefully is a three to six month, 614 00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.759 maybe even longer plan for Bray White. I need this 615 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.519 to succeed. Bray needs us to succeed in WWE cannot 616 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:28.200 flop on this. 617 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.400 Yeah, and I'm really hoping that when he does come out, 618 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.960 it's not just him, you know, squashing people like just 619 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.240 no names or really bottom card guys. Because you mentioned 620 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.599 this the last time we spoke about it. He's already 621 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.240 an established wrestler. Sure he's been repackaged to the fullest extent, 622 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:50.119 but people know who Bray Wyatt is. He's been a 623 00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:54.079 WWE champion, he's been around since twenty twelve or whatever 624 00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.480 it is. He can't just come in and, you know, 625 00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.799 squash like Apollo Cruz or whatever one of the guy's 626 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.839 chasing the twenty four seven title. He has to come 627 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:07.359 in and get into a few that's worthwhile, like come 628 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:11.319 in and attack Roman Reigns or take or fight with 629 00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:13.839 Kofi Kingson. I want him to come in and make 630 00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:18.279 an impact because already his story of the Firefly Funhouse 631 00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.200 is making such an impact and he's not even in 632 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.400 the ring. So I don't want him to show up 633 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.079 on either Raw or SmackDown or at this straight both 634 00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.799 and take a back seat. I want him to come in, 635 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.599 and I want this story to be the focal point 636 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.799 of the show because I think it can be, and 637 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.559 I think people want it to be. And he's just 638 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.359 such a mastermind at it as you brought up, and 639 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:42.160 he's good in the ring. We've seen him be good 640 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.240 in the ring. I just think that when he comes out, 641 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.480 they better pick their spot properly, because it can't just 642 00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.200 be a storyline on the back burner. It has to 643 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.240 be front and center. It has to be in a 644 00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:56.960 major storyline or possibly for a title. I don't know 645 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:58.839 what they're gonna do, but I just know that they 646 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.000 have to make it worth while. We can't just be 647 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:02.440 an afterthought. 648 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.279 No, it absolutely can't. Ww has no choice on this one. 649 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.039 And I don't say that lightly. I don't know if 650 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.359 I've set that in quite a while, but if they 651 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:16.000 botched this, there's gonna be I think a lot of 652 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:21.119 angry fans that that are. I mean, they mightn't. I 653 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.480 don't want to say the rebel, but you could turn 654 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.119 a lot of fans off very quickly if this is 655 00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:28.759 is failed. And it's failed on the part of WWE 656 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.160 and Bray White has put so much effort into this 657 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:34.279 and has done an amazing job. So let's touch on 658 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.240 the women's division, and I just have to put some 659 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.680 quick thoughts. So in general, you know, for a while, 660 00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:44.119 it felt as if Becky Lynch, I think, has been 661 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.200 cooled off, and I think that she has been kind 662 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.640 of just flopping out there since WrestleMania. I alluded to 663 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.599 a few weeks ago that maybe it's because she hasn't 664 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.839 had the great dance partner of Ronda Rowsey hanging around, 665 00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:00.160 which I think is a big contributing factor. And you 666 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.920 have Lacey Evans who's been put front and center against 667 00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:10.039 Becky Lynch. And while some people may really really dislike 668 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.280 Lacy Evans and thinks she's undeserving, and yes, she had 669 00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.960 a terrible match against Charlotte a number of weeks ago. 670 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:19.239 Of course it was awful. It was probably the worst 671 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.159 match of the year. But you need to establish new 672 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.760 stars and build new stars. You can't just have all 673 00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.239 the time stars against stars. You need to have people 674 00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:31.079 that are up and coming, and after WrestleMania is the 675 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:33.599 perfect time to do it, to build that new star 676 00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:37.840 for the new year. And I think overall, Lacy Evans 677 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.000 has done a good job as the heel. I don't 678 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:46.000 think she's masterful in the ring. She does need work, 679 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:49.599 but that'll come in time. She's got her promo down 680 00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:51.880 better than most do when they come up from NXT, 681 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.760 even though she does speak a little bit slow, and 682 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.719 Becky Lynch alluded to that pretty well on Monday Night Raw, 683 00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.519 but I think she's got it good presence. I don't 684 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.920 mind her right now is the challenger because I want 685 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:09.440 to see Lacy Evans get her ass kicked and that's 686 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.599 what I want to feel. And Becky Lynch, on the 687 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.719 other hand, has kind of felt luke warm. I haven't 688 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.000 got that spark, that energy that I want as Becky 689 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.840 Lynch really had when she turned heel and turned her 690 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.039 really into the biggest babyface in WWE, but has since 691 00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:29.360 cooled off and right now she's I don't think going 692 00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.280 to be getting back to that status when she's in 693 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.760 a program with Lacy Evans. However, right now I'm fine 694 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:36.920 with Lacy Evans and going against Becky Lynch. We all 695 00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:39.119 know Lacy Evans isn't going to win the championship, at 696 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.239 least not at this time. So those are my thoughts. 697 00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.199 What do you think about the women's division, and not 698 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:47.119 just even Becky and Lacy Evans, but the SmackDown women's 699 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:48.719 division as well. Well. 700 00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.840 I think the women's division as a whole has kind 701 00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.920 of I won't see torpedoed, but it hasn't been as 702 00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:58.800 good as it was pre Wrestlingia because leading up to WrestleMania, 703 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.119 I would argue that it was much more entertaining than 704 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:05.239 the men's division. But since WrestleMania, you know, Charlotte's kind 705 00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.880 of she's been there, but now like the past few weeks, 706 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.559 she's kind of not been around. Sasha Banks has been 707 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:13.920 on a hiatus. We haven't really seen Naomi or Ember 708 00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:18.119 Moon prominent roles, so it's kind of just been Bailey, 709 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:24.760 Becky and Lacy Evans. Becky, I find she's gotten really stale, 710 00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.280 you know. I feel like her promos have just become 711 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.320 the same thing, calling people. 712 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.239 Blokes or what have you. 713 00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:35.960 And I won't say that I'm happy that she's cooled 714 00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:39.519 off to this extent, but I am also because I 715 00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:43.039 think people took Ronda Rousey for granted and they didn't 716 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:47.119 realize just how good Rowsey was in promos and in 717 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.719 the ring, and as you said before, she was a 718 00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.159 great dance partner for Becky. 719 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:56.639 I personally really like Lacy Evans. Obviously she does need work. 720 00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:58.760 In the ring, but I think she's hammered down her 721 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:03.320 character perfectly. Her promos are good, you understand her standpoint, 722 00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:08.480 and she's just not quite there to elevate Becky's game. 723 00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.119 I just think that Becky's become just repetitive and it's 724 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:16.079 the same thing and we know that people have held 725 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.360 you down and blah blah blah, and I don't know. 726 00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.360 I just I've had a hard time getting behind Becky lately. 727 00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.159 But as for Lazy, I think she's been the best 728 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:28.000 part of the women's division up until Alexa Bliss getting 729 00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:31.360 back into entering competition, because I think the Alexa Bliss 730 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:35.239 Bailey storyline is much more intriguing aside from the fact 731 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.119 that Alexa Bliss is a raw competitor fighting for the 732 00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:39.440 Smackdowens title, but. 733 00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:41.320 We already touched the wildcard rule. 734 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.199 But as a whole, I think that storyline of Bailey 735 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.000 and Alexa is much more intriguing than Becky and Lazy 736 00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:48.480 right now. 737 00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:53.119 Yes, and I'm glad you brought up Becky and Alexa 738 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.039 because that's something I wanted to talk to about as well, 739 00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:01.000 but just to finish up on Becky and Lacy. I 740 00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.840 really think that they as you said, Lacy Evans has 741 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.519 her character. She's down more than most do and more 742 00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.719 than some more established stars do. And she has come 743 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:14.079 up from NXT and made it impact, made it impact quickly, 744 00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.400 and that's what you want. And she feels different than 745 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:19.719 most of the women. That's what you want to you 746 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.880 want to differentiate yourself from the pack. She's done that. 747 00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.840 She's the sassy Southern bell or whatever cute nickname they 748 00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.159 give her. But she plays the part. She goes all 749 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:31.000 in that's what I want, and she does it, and 750 00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:35.079 she's got a really good looking finish. I like the 751 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:38.440 woman's right, it's it's nice. It's kind of the female 752 00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:42.320 version of Big Shows WMD Weapon of Mass Destruction. I'm 753 00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:47.159 fine with it. I think it's unique. And you know, 754 00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:50.840 on top of that, Becky, as you said, has kind 755 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.599 of just spun her wheels. I mean that's kind of 756 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:56.280 a good that's a good analogy. She's just there running 757 00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:00.559 on old fumes, not giving us something new to get 758 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.480 behind her on. She's just still kind of in WrestleMania 759 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:10.599 post match mode, instead of looking ahead and just saying 760 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:11.960 the same things you said. 761 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:12.280 It good. 762 00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:15.360 I mean, she's just saying everybody's held me down. I've 763 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.159 done this all my life. I've put dopes down like you. Okay, 764 00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:21.519 well come up, we need something more, Becky. Please. Right now, 765 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:23.320 I'm starting to lose a little bit of interest in 766 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:27.480 Becky Lynch. She's nowhere near how hot she was. If 767 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:29.519 you would put her out a ten from how hot 768 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.880 she was the night after the Royal rumble, I'd say 769 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.280 she's about a three or a four right now. That's 770 00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:37.920 based on crowd reaction. That's just based how I feel 771 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:41.239 sitting at home watching her. I mean, I'm interested when 772 00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:44.519 she comes out, but I don't have that unpredictable feeling. 773 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:48.880 I don't have the rebellious nature, that instinct that I 774 00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:52.719 felt when Becky Lynch came out. She's just kind of 775 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.880 another one of the women, and she happens to be champion, 776 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:58.320 and I don't want that for Becky Lynch. As far 777 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.920 as Bailey and Alexa go Man, that promo they had 778 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:06.440 on SmackDown, while they clearly booked it for a work 779 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:11.199 shoot promo, it came across very real and I'm sure 780 00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:14.199 that a lot of that, some of that material was 781 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:18.360 instinctual and from their own brains in the moment, and 782 00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:22.639 that's what I love too. When Alexa noted to Bailey, hey, 783 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.400 you know you peaked an NXT. What have you done 784 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:27.719 since you got here? And boy is that true? Since 785 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.159 Bailey got here Outside of her being the I don't 786 00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.000 know she was some surprise tag team partner. I forget 787 00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:40.159 what pay per view. She has just gone up, down, up, down, down, down, down, 788 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.679 down down, and her and Sasha going back and forth 789 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.559 and the love you Hate you mode for a year 790 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.320 and a half and the Bailey this is your life 791 00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:50.760 that she had with ironically Alexa Bliss a year and 792 00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:54.840 a half ago. None of that didn't her any favors, 793 00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.719 and the promo they had it brought it all back together. 794 00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:03.880 It made Bailey human again. It really also kind of 795 00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:05.880 made me side with Alexa because she had a lot 796 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.639 of good valid points that as a heel I typically 797 00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:13.960 don't I'm not supposed to. I feel like I agree 798 00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:17.320 with and you know see that they see their side 799 00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:20.320 of it. But they both had some scathing things to say, 800 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.280 and yes, of course it was a workshoot promo, but 801 00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.000 I don't know, I loved it. What did you think 802 00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:26.280 about that on SmackDown Life? 803 00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:30.360 Oh, it was really good. It felt real, it felt authentic. 804 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.440 I liked I well in general, I've liked the Nikki 805 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.039 cross element to it. I like that, like, you know, 806 00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:41.559 the whole manipulation on the part of Alexa Blizz and yeah, 807 00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:43.800 I just think that a lot of it felt like 808 00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:46.360 it came from the gut with them. It's made me 809 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.000 care about Bailey. It's not just like she you know, 810 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.760 she was the cartoon character and at first it was fine, 811 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.519 but then the fire dinam quick. But lately, like I 812 00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:58.000 like seeing her come out just in street clothes and 813 00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.760 jeans and a T shirt and regular girl heels or whatever, 814 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:06.480 and it just felt like she's more relatable now, And so. 815 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:07.800 It makes me care about Bailey. 816 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.679 It makes me want to support her and Alexa well, 817 00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:14.039 she's just always been great as a heel and getting heat. 818 00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:18.280 But yeah, I'm really invested in this match. I'm looking 819 00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:21.199 forward to this match as opposed to the raw one 820 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.519 where I just really couldn't care at this point. But yeah, 821 00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:25.679 I really like what Bailey and Alexa have done and 822 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.599 that problem they had ons fact that was amazing, and. 823 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.840 Like you said in one fell Swoop, they made me 824 00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:37.239 care about this program more than they have ever since 825 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.880 they started having a few, and that was years ago too. 826 00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:44.480 This is not something I want to see all the time. 827 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:48.280 I don't need this workshoot style every single time. But 828 00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.800 when it's done in dribs and drabs here and there, 829 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.360 when you don't see it coming, that's when it's the 830 00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:57.480 most effective. So just because it was super effective this 831 00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.639 week doesn't mean I want to see it every single week. 832 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:04.320 I don't mine the you know, the typical uh wwe 833 00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.119 created promo. Sometimes that's not a bad thing to have. 834 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:11.599 I don't want to make it feel like they're reading lines. 835 00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:14.639 But I also don't need the shoot aspect all the 836 00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:16.880 time because it just it takes me out of the 837 00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:21.199 moment I need. I need it occasionally. So yeah, the 838 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.880 street clothes thing, and while Alexi said it looks like 839 00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:25.880 you're working at you know, Forever twenty one, which made 840 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:29.199 me laugh, it did humanize her, just as it did 841 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:32.679 with Drew McIntyre. Not constantly seeing him in street clothes 842 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:36.679 or in in his wrestling gear and having him just 843 00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:40.000 wear jeans and his shirt or whatever just the simple 844 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:44.599 thing of that humanizes people quickly, and Bailey was a 845 00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:48.159 cartoon character Bailey buddies. I just like to hug people. 846 00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:51.280 I come out and I'm all colorful. I want to 847 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.519 who's Bailey? I need to know who you are as 848 00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.880 a person and what your mission is. Apparently you're done 849 00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:58.679 giving hugs, but your Bailey buddies are still here. I 850 00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.079 don't know. I don't I don't know. But the Nicky 851 00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:05.159 Cross thing is interesting too. And for Bailey to say 852 00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:08.320 to NICKI, Hey, do you remember Naya Jacks? What did 853 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:10.920 Alexa do to Nia Jacks? Do you remember Mickey James? 854 00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:13.039 What did she do to Mickey James? How do you 855 00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:17.360 not see this coming? And interestingly too, I don't know 856 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.159 if this was by design or not, but Nicky Cross 857 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:25.760 never actually punched, kicked, did anything too to Bailey to 858 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:28.119 pull her off of Alexa other than just pull her off. 859 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:31.719 There was no actual physical exchange between the two, so 860 00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:36.280 whether Nicky Cross turns on Alexa or not remains to 861 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:37.880 be seen, but it was just interesting that they never 862 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:41.480 actually had a physical exchange in that moment that she 863 00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:44.039 could have, and there was there was also a pause 864 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:48.639 or a hesitation by Nicki after Bailey had started attacking Alexa, 865 00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:52.079 So that's just something interesting. But yeah, to take Nicky 866 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.159 Cross into this, it does add another layer. I don't 867 00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.599 know what the endgame is for Nicky, but I hope 868 00:44:57.639 --> 00:44:59.599 it ends with Nicky not looking like a fool. 869 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.960 You know, Matt, you said something in there that I 870 00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:04.920 want to touch on because it doesn't have to do 871 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:08.360 with the women particularly, but you said that it worked 872 00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.440 this week, so I hope they don't keep using it 873 00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:14.440 and gets diluted because they think we've touched on. When 874 00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.880 Vince McMahon likes something, he beats that thing to death. 875 00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:21.519 And one thing that I don't understand why he keeps 876 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:25.599 going to is Sammy Sane and Kevin Owens. You know, 877 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.400 I don't understand why that these two constantly have to 878 00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:34.679 be paired together as just glorified trolls, and because they 879 00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:39.079 have relatively big names attached to them that like their losses, 880 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:42.000 will automatically put over the over guys. And it's just 881 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.880 been something bothering me that like these guys like I've 882 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:50.119 has had seen them been building matches like final time ever, 883 00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:55.199 culmination of former best friends they won't meet again. Now 884 00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.960 one's on raw one's unsmacked up, but then for some 885 00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:02.760 reason they're always just went back together as giant trolls. 886 00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:05.039 And it's just it's bothering me that, like it's been 887 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:07.239 going on for so long now, because now we're coming 888 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.199 up on two years that the whole thing started with 889 00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:13.920 the angle against ironically Shane McMahon, that that's all that 890 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:17.559 they've been and since the days where Sammy Seen was 891 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:21.360 actually a somewhat relevant mid card guy and Kevin Owens 892 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.039 was a competitor against aj Styles for the US title 893 00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.599 and the Universal Championship, and now I just feel like, 894 00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:33.719 because their whole slightly heeled comedic act work, that that's 895 00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:35.119 all they use. 896 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.119 These guys for. And I just feel like these guys 897 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.199 are being wasted big time. Now. 898 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:41.920 I'm gonna try to remain a little calm here, because 899 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.440 last night I went I went off on this topic 900 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:52.280 that Kevin Owens and Sammy's Ay, they are sorely underutilized, 901 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:54.119 and that is being the most mild I can be. 902 00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:58.039 Do they have such an upside? I don't care if 903 00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.280 Vince McMahon looks at Kevin Owens and says, look on him, 904 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:01.920 he's got a beer gut. He can't be the face 905 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.880 of the WWE. I mean, I feel like that's what 906 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:08.800 Vince McMahon is thinking. And I don't know why they 907 00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:12.159 put him as Universal champion, and since that time after 908 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:14.519 Triple H handed it to him, if we all forgot 909 00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.679 he lost to Goldberg and then we have he just 910 00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:22.360 spiraled down into an abyss and once he was doing 911 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:24.800 these promo videos to come back, if you want to 912 00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:27.760 call him promo videos. He's in a bowling alley with 913 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.719 his kids, he's at a movie theater and he comes 914 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:32.960 back as a baby face and I'm like, all right, cool, 915 00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:35.480 Like I want to see how this Kevin Owens' babyface 916 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:40.199 run goes. And they cut that so quickly that I well, 917 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:41.880 I mean everyone said all they shouldn't have done it 918 00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.239 that quick, and I'm kind of torn because we all 919 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.000 knew the other shoe was gonna drop and it was 920 00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:48.079 a matter of time when he turned here. Okay, so 921 00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:49.880 he turns heel, he's back to where we all thought 922 00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.400 he was going to be anyway, But then they just 923 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.239 have him lose and lose and lose. What has Sammy 924 00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:58.960 done since he came back and was a critic of 925 00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:01.519 the critics, which I think has gotten good momentum and 926 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:05.360 I actually enjoy It's something different, unique, And they bring 927 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.840 out an electric chair one week, which made no sense, 928 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:11.400 but they had an interaction with fans and it seemed legitimate. 929 00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.440 It didn't seem like they were plants in the audience. 930 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.559 You get to ask Sammy z Ain questions and he 931 00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.159 attacks the fans and he's the critic of the critics. 932 00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:21.840 I think that was great, it was original. I am 933 00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.599 enjoying it, and they gave him a lot of time 934 00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:28.159 to do it. And yet braun Stroman comes out flattens him. 935 00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:32.400 You know, Kofi Kingston beats him like there. And I 936 00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:35.119 know wins and losses don't really matter too much in 937 00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:37.960 the in the world of professional wrestling, this fantasy environment, 938 00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:42.400 but I can't get behind characters that lose and lose 939 00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:46.360 and lose and lose and two guys that could easily 940 00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:50.000 either one be a top guy and I'm talking champion 941 00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:53.000 just to samoa Jo and maybe we'll touch on Samoojo too. 942 00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:56.000 You can put samoa Jo in this argument too. All 943 00:48:56.039 --> 00:49:00.679 three guys, why are they being just just push to 944 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.079 the side, not given an opportunity to take the ball 945 00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.119 and just go to the end zone when they could 946 00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:13.559 easily do it. All three are very experienced independent scene. 947 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.519 They've had their independent scene run. They know who they are, 948 00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:20.159 they are, they understand the business, they understand the psychology. 949 00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.920 They can work a crowd, they can have amazing matches, 950 00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:29.159 and yet they lose week after week after week. And maybe, 951 00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:31.320 and I said this last night, maybe it's because for 952 00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:34.159 Kevin Owens anyway, that he's being punished by management for 953 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.000 not going to Saudi Arabia. I don't know, I don't 954 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.960 know the reasoning, but it is maddening that these three 955 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:44.039 guys who could if my god, maybe they're eyeing AW 956 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.599 because if they ever go to AW and are allowed 957 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.960 to just creatively do whatever they want, look out. I mean, 958 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:53.119 I'm sure they feel handcuffed. I'm sure all three feel frustrated. 959 00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.000 So I'll just stop there. 960 00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:59.159 Well, yeah, and we saw glimpses of the old Kevin 961 00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:02.119 Owens when you like that vicious heel, and he could 962 00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:04.800 really be a force to be reckon with Sam He's ay, 963 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:08.639 it feels as though like, unless he's just riding shotgun 964 00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:11.119 with Kevin Owens, he's a nobody to them. 965 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:13.559 And it's kind of weird because when he first came. 966 00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.400 Back and he was the critic of the critics, you 967 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.920 thought like, Okay, they're finally gonna let him go off 968 00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:22.599 on his own, but no, he just somehow inexplicably used 969 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.760 the wild card rule again, jumped a SmackDown, and now 970 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:28.320 him he's basically riding shotgun with Kevin. 971 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:31.719 Like I just said. As for Samoa Joe, it's just 972 00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:32.639 it's feeling like. 973 00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.360 Bray Wyan all over again, where he's like this vicious, 974 00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:39.679 like evil heel and like no one can stop him, 975 00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:43.280 and then he I remember you talked about how like 976 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:47.079 Somojo has this aspect that even when he loses, he 977 00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:50.079 makes you believe that he's gonna come back better than ever. 978 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:53.199 But even when he loses now he always has that 979 00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:55.440 like look of shock on his face. I don't know 980 00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.639 if you know what I'm talking about, where he gets 981 00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:01.000 rolled up and he's like completely distraught. But it happens 982 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:05.079 so often, he loses so much that that look on 983 00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:05.800 his face. 984 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.199 It's not even realistic anymore. It's almost funny to me 985 00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:11.119 because you're just like, how is he shocked? This always 986 00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:14.440 happens to me. He always loses, and I know. 987 00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:16.960 That they put the US title back on him, which 988 00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.440 I am happy about because I think he's a guy 989 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:23.119 that could benefit from it and the title could benefit 990 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:27.480 from him as well. I still find it ridiculous that 991 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:29.199 he got it because Raymond. 992 00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:30.159 S dieror just vacated it. 993 00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:32.760 I remember you touched on it, Like when has that 994 00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:36.800 ever happened before? The title never just gets vacated and 995 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.400 then handed to someone. It always has to be fought for, 996 00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:41.360 like what happened with Roman Reigns when he had to 997 00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:42.599 go away for his leukemia. 998 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:44.320 So even though. 999 00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.639 They put the belt back on Joe, it doesn't mean 1000 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:48.440 anything because. 1001 00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:49.239 They just handed it to him. 1002 00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.559 But another thing is like do titles mean anything anymore? 1003 00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:55.840 Obviously the two major titles of the Universal and the 1004 00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:01.159 WWE means something. But again, Finn Ballard, besides win against 1005 00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:04.079 ANDRAWNI a Super Showdown, I don't even know if I've 1006 00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.519 seen him on television, let alone win a match since 1007 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:11.039 he's been drafted to SmackDown Samoa. Joe is the US champ, 1008 00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:13.360 but I don't think he's won a match since being. 1009 00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:14.079 The US champ. 1010 00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.960 And as for the tag team titles, well, Hawkins and 1011 00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:22.960 Ryder literally lost it their first titled event since WrestleMania, 1012 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.239 and that's that's just ridiculous to me. Like, I think 1013 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:29.800 people have forgotten that they had these titles and that's why. 1014 00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:31.760 They eventually just put them back on the Revival. 1015 00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:35.039 So yeah, I think Joe at this point is just 1016 00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:38.559 a very big victim of just how badly they use 1017 00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:39.599 the titles right now. 1018 00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:43.400 It's a crime. I mean, I feel like this could 1019 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:46.559 be a felony of sorts, Like there's got to be 1020 00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.719 some kind of penal code for this. It's it's it's awful. 1021 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:54.320 And Samoa Joe is a guy that could easily be 1022 00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:56.679 a top guy, you know. And when I said that 1023 00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:59.920 about Samoa Joe and his promos, he is you can 1024 00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:02.760 have him lose and his promo the next night would 1025 00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:04.039 make you feel like he won and you want to 1026 00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.440 see him you lose again. He's got that ability, and 1027 00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.800 that is an ability I don't really know anybody has 1028 00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:13.239 that I can think of beyond Smojoe. It is such 1029 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:17.599 a good quality. But he loses and loses and loses. 1030 00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.800 It's it's as if his one win was a fluke 1031 00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:24.039 win and it happened to be for a championship and 1032 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:28.920 since then. I mean, he constantly loses at WrestleMania. I said, okay, 1033 00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:31.119 here we go. He beat Raymisterio in like a blink 1034 00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:33.920 of an eye. They're gonna finally strap the rocket to him. 1035 00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:39.199 He's just gonna tear through in the SmackDown Live roster 1036 00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:41.960 and they're just gonna have him be a bulldozer and 1037 00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:44.880 he loses and loses and loses on roll ups and 1038 00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:48.440 roll ups and roll ups, and it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous 1039 00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:50.119 that Smojo would lose on a roll up, the guy 1040 00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:55.239 that nearly beat brock Lesner straight up. So but as 1041 00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.559 far as the tag team champions go, if we're gonna 1042 00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:00.920 jump into that realm the revival, yeah, I think it's 1043 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.960 simply because they are associated with Shane McMahon and they 1044 00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:06.840 want to get more heat on that faction that they 1045 00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:09.800 have the Gold and they were told if you bring 1046 00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:11.719 the gold, you can come to the party. Well, they 1047 00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:14.280 brought the gold and now they're invited to that backstage 1048 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:19.679 champagne lobster whatever it was that Roman reigns ended up crashing. 1049 00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:25.239 But on the flip side, I'm really liking Rowan and 1050 00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:30.880 Brian as champions on SmackDown live and heavy machinery. I 1051 00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.079 really think that they are good, formidable opponents for Daniel 1052 00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:39.199 Brien and for Rowan. Rowan, who has been reinvented from 1053 00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:42.840 the really the third wheel of the Wyatt family and 1054 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:46.239 has been re educated to us as a legitimate threat, 1055 00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.440 a legitimate big man, a guy that can take a 1056 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:52.119 lot of punishment, kick out of finishers, and is the 1057 00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:56.239 heavy for Daniel Brian. And I'm really liking this duo 1058 00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:00.239 the Planet's Champions. I think that Daniel Brian has done 1059 00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:04.199 a great job with his veganism, brought to the max 1060 00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:07.920 to be arrogant and an obnoxious and they're doing a 1061 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.320 really good job. Despite the fact that they are not 1062 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:13.519 being booked to be anywhere near the focal point of 1063 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.280 the show. They are always a highlight of the show 1064 00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:19.440 because Daniel Brian is so believable and his delivery is 1065 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:23.760 always very smooth. It's easy to understand and it's they're 1066 00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:26.519 arrogant and the fact that Daniel Bryan has been able 1067 00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:29.599 to pull the wool over fans eyes and in a 1068 00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:33.320 way that you resent Daniel Brian now, a character that 1069 00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:37.119 we never thought we'd hate again is just a tribute 1070 00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.800 to the genius and mastery that is Daniel Bryan and 1071 00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:43.880 he's and Rowan is certainly benefiting from this, and that's 1072 00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:44.960 that's always a plus. 1073 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:47.519 Yeah, Daniel Brian is brilliant. I think he's one of 1074 00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.079 the best talkers right now. He's a great wrestler and 1075 00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:52.480 he's just great in whatever. 1076 00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:52.880 Role he does. 1077 00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.239 He's really taking the ball and run with it in 1078 00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:59.559 his full blown he'l vegan mode. And I think Rowan 1079 00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:01.679 is really excel that he got a shot and he's 1080 00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.480 really like taken advantage of it, and I really it's 1081 00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.599 good to see how well they're doing because it seemed 1082 00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:13.039 as though before WrestleMania SmackDown was loaded with tag teams 1083 00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:15.480 and now all of a sudden there's none. You know, 1084 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:19.079 Jeff Hardy got hurt, so they're so the Hardy Boys 1085 00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:20.159 don't exist right now. 1086 00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:21.719 The USOS went to Raw. 1087 00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:24.320 The New Day have basically been taken out because of 1088 00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:29.199 what's gone on with KOFE. The bar inexplicably dismembered, and 1089 00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:32.920 now Cesarro is off being some weird character on Raw 1090 00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:33.679 that we'll get to. 1091 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.599 But yeah, I really like what they've done on SmackDown. 1092 00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:39.519 Rowan and Brian that is. 1093 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.480 I like how Brian has alluded to the fact that 1094 00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:47.679 SmackDown has no formidable tag team challengers. As for Heavy Machinery, 1095 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.079 I really like them. They feel like an old school 1096 00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:53.360 type tag team. I find them funny too, and they're 1097 00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:56.920 well placed comedy because it's organic, they don't go out 1098 00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.239 of their way to but they also are good in 1099 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.880 the ring. I find entertaining and I think it's a 1100 00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:06.199 good kind of feud because obviously Heavy Machinery or rather 1101 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:09.519 heavier set guys. So Daniel Brian can kind of, like, 1102 00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:11.639 you know, grasp on to that about like the whole 1103 00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.360 vegan thing and being healthy and not stuff in your 1104 00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:17.639 face with gluten. But yeah, that's been a really bright spot. 1105 00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.960 I've always liked Daniel Brian Rowan's been nice touch, and 1106 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.119 they've had good chemistry with Heavy Machinery. 1107 00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:27.400 Yeah, And while we're on that subject, as you said 1108 00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:31.920 about Cizarrow, though I don't know what they're doing with Cesarrow. 1109 00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:34.239 I don't think Cesarrow knows what they're doing with Czarrow. 1110 00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.960 It's just another iteration of them trying to find and 1111 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:41.800 Cesarrow trying to find who he is. We all know 1112 00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:45.719 he is freakishly strong in the ring. He's a great competitor, 1113 00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:49.679 he is in incredible shape. All of that is true, 1114 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:52.760 check check check. The problem is he has never been 1115 00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:56.639 able to organically connect with the fans on a level 1116 00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:58.760 that's outside of the tag team of the Bar. And 1117 00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:01.719 even the Bar didn't really like it. Never connected with me, 1118 00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:06.320 like I understood who they were, but I never was saying, oh, hey, yeah, 1119 00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:08.880 I understand what you I mean, I connect, I feel 1120 00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:11.440 what you're doing. They just kind of came up with 1121 00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:14.480 the catchphrase that you know we are we aren't the bar, 1122 00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:17.199 we set the bar, you know whatever, and they never 1123 00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:21.519 just felt like they were something that would be long term. 1124 00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:24.559 They were just in good in ring competitors and announced Czzar, 1125 00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:27.519 as you said it, is doing this whatever he's doing 1126 00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.920 with new music. Okay, he's refreshed with new music. I'd 1127 00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:32.760 like to see a promo from him to let us 1128 00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:35.800 know who he is. But his in ring competition on 1129 00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.320 Monday Night certainly spoke for itself. And that's where he 1130 00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:41.280 does most of his talking is in the ring and 1131 00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:44.280 in his crazy strength that he you know, what he 1132 00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:49.199 showed against broun Strohman was just otherworldly. Uh, and you 1133 00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:51.960 know he has that ability to go toe to toe 1134 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.559 with anybody and put on a five star match if 1135 00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:58.440 given the time. So I mean, obviously that match was 1136 00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.679 really more focused around braunz Strung, who tossed everybody around 1137 00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:05.320 for you know, half the match until he was eliminated 1138 00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:08.159 by two guys who were already eliminated and then hit 1139 00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:10.199 you know, about three finishers on him before he was 1140 00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:12.440 taken out of the match. So what did you think 1141 00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:14.679 about that match and what did you think about Cizarrow 1142 00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:15.880 getting kind of repackaged. 1143 00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.519 Well, the match was good, the match was entertaining. 1144 00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:21.960 I think it was like a cool aspect that it 1145 00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:26.800 was the elimination factor. As for Cizarrow, I think it's 1146 00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:29.559 never been in doubt how good he is in the ring. 1147 00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.119 I remember, even before the Bar he had. 1148 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.199 One or two really really good matches with John cenn 1149 00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.960 Raw and people were always kind of waiting for him 1150 00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:41.039 to break out, And then when he got paired with Seamus. 1151 00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:43.880 I was personally a fan of the Bar. I liked them. 1152 00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:47.519 I've always liked Shamus and I found that they were 1153 00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:50.519 also kind of like an old school like brutish tag team. 1154 00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:54.360 But ever since he's been repackaged, it kind of made 1155 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:57.480 me realize why he was in a tag team because 1156 00:59:57.519 --> 00:59:59.280 he I don't know who he is. 1157 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.599 I don't know his character is, and I found it 1158 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:05.639 weird because they feel like there was even confusion between 1159 01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:08.880 him and the creative because when he first started coming 1160 01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:13.679 out on Raw solo post WrestleMania without Seamus, he came 1161 01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:19.119 out using Seamus's music and then they quickly switched it 1162 01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.039 to new music. But then for the biggest while, he 1163 01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:25.280 was still coming out with the bar wrestling attire and 1164 01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:28.440 doing the sign coming to the ring while the commentators 1165 01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:30.840 were making no reference to the bar. And it's only 1166 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:33.119 been the past few weeks where he's got rid of 1167 01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:36.000 the sign and got rid of the attire. So it's 1168 01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:40.480 almost been me just not taking him seriously because obviously 1169 01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:42.159 he's good in the ring and no one can take 1170 01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:44.880 that away from him, but it's just the whole character 1171 01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:48.519 direction just doesn't make sense. He hasn't said a word 1172 01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:53.000 since coming over to Raw and being dismembered from the Bar, 1173 01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:57.840 so I can't get behind him because I just don't 1174 01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.199 know who he is. I don't know why he's there. 1175 01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:03.119 I don't know why him and Shamus broke up. I 1176 01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:05.880 know for real reasons. I think Seamus left to go 1177 01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:10.000 fill him teenage Ninja Turtles or something. But just tell me, why, 1178 01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:12.800 tell me what happened, Just tell me anything, you know. 1179 01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.320 It could be as easy as when Bobby Rood and 1180 01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:19.000 Chad Gable split and Ruge just said, ah, he was 1181 01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:21.599 weighing me down and I shed two hundred pounds of nothing. 1182 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:24.440 Okay, at least I get it, at least I know why. 1183 01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:27.119 But like, I have no reason as to why won 1184 01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:29.400 the most successful tag teams over the last two and 1185 01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:31.960 a half years randomly dismembered. 1186 01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:34.920 So yeah, but it's just been kind of hard for. 1187 01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:38.079 Me to get behind him when it's like there's been 1188 01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:40.119 no explanation as to why he's solo. 1189 01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:43.519 It's kind of a funny point. I mean, when you 1190 01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.800 see Cizarro outside of a tag team, you just said it. 1191 01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:49.719 I mean, you go, oh, that's why they put him 1192 01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.679 in a tag team, and him and Seamus before they 1193 01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.800 became the bar. We're having a best of seven series 1194 01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:59.679 and if you remember, they got to game seven, if 1195 01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:01.800 you will, they got to the seventh match, of course, 1196 01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:05.400 and I believe that match ended in a draw, and 1197 01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:08.679 so Mick Foley decided to put them together, and they 1198 01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:11.800 reluctantly were together for I don't know how many months 1199 01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:15.079 before they finally started to gel and just accepted each other. 1200 01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:17.719 And the fans got behind him for a while. It 1201 01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:22.639 was Boo Shamous yay Cesarrow, Boo Shamus, yay Cesarrow, and 1202 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:25.159 then they just kind of morphed into one and you know, 1203 01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:27.440 outside of their catchphrase, they didn't say a whole lot. 1204 01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.599 It was just their catchphrase. And so now that he's 1205 01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:33.840 on his own, he needs to tell us his identity 1206 01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:37.159 and tell us it fast. While you while you kind 1207 01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.039 of alluded to it. And I agree that I'll get 1208 01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:43.239 behind him because I like Cesarrow as an in ring performer. 1209 01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:45.679 I respect him so much and he's so good that 1210 01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.480 I'll get behind him until they tell me otherwise. But 1211 01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:51.679 I'm not going to get super excited about who he 1212 01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:55.840 is or where he's going until I'm told who he is, 1213 01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:00.679 until they tell me something. But wwe doesn't care about detail, 1214 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:02.800 And Vince McMahon, you can hear a Mex stage j oh, 1215 01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:05.000 people don't remember that. People don't care. They just want 1216 01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:07.519 to be entertained. Well, here's how you entertain people by 1217 01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:10.559 telling them detail and rewarding them for paying attention to detail. 1218 01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:14.039 But that's not gonna happen. You know, we'll never get 1219 01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:16.440 an explanation, just as And I don't know why I 1220 01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:18.920 keep bringing this up, but it irks me. Charlotte got 1221 01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:23.360 a SmackDown Women's Championship title match a week before WrestleMania, 1222 01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:25.880 yet and she won. I mean, there was no zero 1223 01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:28.639 explanation against Oscar for that. I mean things like that. 1224 01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:32.239 How can you overlook that? How can you not tell 1225 01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:36.440 fans why this is happening or how it's happening. Obviously, 1226 01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:39.199 Cizarro and Seamus breaking up, I don't think is on 1227 01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:42.480 the scale of Charlotte winning the SmackDown Women's Championship a 1228 01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:46.960 week before WrestleMania. But it's that same logic, that same 1229 01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:51.760 mentality that WWE has creatively vince McMahon that we don't 1230 01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:53.320 need to tell him, we'll come up with something later. 1231 01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:56.280 No one's gonna ask, well, we're asking, we're asking why 1232 01:03:56.320 --> 01:04:00.840 wouldn't we want to know? And it's a fundamental problem 1233 01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:01.719 with WWA. 1234 01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:04.920 And you know what, I like that you brought up 1235 01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:07.599 the lack of logic because this is something and it's 1236 01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:09.519 been amplified by the wildcard rule. 1237 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.960 That's been bothering me. Why is it that heels who 1238 01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:17.800 have never come into contact before, or heels that have 1239 01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:21.360 had past beef with each other just because their heels 1240 01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:22.239 they're friends? 1241 01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:27.440 Like why do Sammy Zin and Kevin Owens inexplicably. 1242 01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:28.639 Have the back of Baron Corbyn? 1243 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:32.239 Why is it that like Baron Corbyn can bump into 1244 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:35.119 Bobby Lashley backstage and all of a sudden their buddies 1245 01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:38.159 and it goes on to SmackDown shame m Man's walking 1246 01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.880 into the building, sammy' zan and Kevin Owens are there 1247 01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:43.639 to greet him and kiss his ass. Do we not 1248 01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:47.639 remember what went on a year and a half ago 1249 01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:52.519 that lasted six months between Sea mcmhon and Kevin. 1250 01:04:52.239 --> 01:04:53.199 Owens and Sammy Zin. 1251 01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:57.039 It's just like I understand the premise of it that 1252 01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:00.760 eventually heals will side with heels and baby best I'm 1253 01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.800 the baby faces, but like, let me know why you 1254 01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:07.639 guys are signing like with each other. I always found 1255 01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:10.000 it cool when heels would come into contact with each 1256 01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:12.480 other and they would actually like have a bit of 1257 01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:15.320 beef and say like, oh, you know, like I don't 1258 01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:17.960 like you, but the the enemy of my enemy is 1259 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:21.280 my friend or whatever it is, but like, just give 1260 01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:24.519 me something, like I just can't get behind, like, Okay, 1261 01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:27.599 they're together because they're two heels. No, why are they together? 1262 01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.599 Why is this guy backing this guy? And it's just 1263 01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:33.599 it's too much of just like it's just lazy, like 1264 01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:36.480 oh yeah, like you mentioned about Vince mcmatt Oh yeah, 1265 01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:39.559 they will remember that Sammy Sane and Kevin Owens and 1266 01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:42.119 made the Shae McMahan's life a living hell for five 1267 01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:43.280 or six months on end. 1268 01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:45.679 It's just like, give me something. 1269 01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:50.039 It just can't be so easy as heels are friends 1270 01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:52.719 of heels and babyfaces are friends of babyfaces. 1271 01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:57.280 I think maybe the logic would be, if you're if 1272 01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.280 I'm talking to Vince McMahon, why are all he wills 1273 01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:05.679 automatically friends? Maybe his explanation would be, well, fans aren't 1274 01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:07.840 gonna care about two heels fighting each other. There's no 1275 01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:10.519 investment there. They have nobody to get behind. And that's 1276 01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:13.000 probably what he would say, is that's the reason that 1277 01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.320 no one would care who wins if they got in 1278 01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:18.039 in any kind of argument or program, because no one 1279 01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:21.039 would care. However, you could create a new star and 1280 01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:24.280 see who the fans would organically get behind by putting 1281 01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:28.719 two heels together. They did that, maybe you remember or 1282 01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:31.760 not with Kurt Angle and Triple H when Kurt Angle 1283 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:35.519 was getting with Stephanie McMahon and getting a little close, 1284 01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:37.360 but Triple H was still the heel. So do you 1285 01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:39.480 side with Angle? Do you side with Triple H? And 1286 01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:42.320 WW left it up to the fans to decide. That's 1287 01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:44.079 how you created. 1288 01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:48.519 Yeah, and exactly culminated at Summerslime two thousand and a 1289 01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:52.480 triple threat match with The Rock, and it actually happened 1290 01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:55.480 where the Kurt Angle and Triple H brawled for about 1291 01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:57.639 ten minutes before the Rock even got to the ring. 1292 01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:01.119 And now I'm not I'm not like you are right 1293 01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:03.960 because why would heels like go against each other the 1294 01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:04.559 fans women. 1295 01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:07.280 Get behind it. I'm not saying that, but it's it's 1296 01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:09.000 also it's more so in the. 1297 01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.639 Fact that, like, why are Sammy Zing and Kevin Ohens 1298 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.239 so behind helping Baron Corbin out? 1299 01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:17.039 Why can heels trying to undercut each other? 1300 01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:20.440 Like I liked it a bit when Baron Corbin tried 1301 01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:23.400 to like take advantage Drew McIntyre in a Number one 1302 01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:24.320 Contenders match. 1303 01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:25.519 Something like that. 1304 01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:28.280 I just I want a bit more of like a 1305 01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:31.400 bit more meat behind the storyline, like explain to me 1306 01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:34.159 why they're helping him. I'm not saying that they have to, 1307 01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:37.159 you know, go against each other, because you are right there, 1308 01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:40.360 I don't think there would be too much emotional investment 1309 01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.280 in from the fans. But at the same time, it 1310 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:45.960 can't just be Okay, well, they're both bad guys, so 1311 01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:48.679 he's gonna automatically come out to help him, like what 1312 01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:52.280 happened at the end of Raw, where like all these 1313 01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:55.039 different people were coming out, like the usos came out 1314 01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:58.079 to help the Fate the the New Day, just because 1315 01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:01.480 they're both good guys, like in the Daniel Brien and 1316 01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:05.159 seth Rawlins match. I just don't like how, just like 1317 01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:09.199 all these different storylines will intertwine and people will side 1318 01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:12.320 with each other just because ones are booked at baby 1319 01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:14.679 faces and the other ones are booked as heels, and 1320 01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:16.960 that's the only explanation we get for it. 1321 01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:21.760 I think it's just reasons. I mean, that's just reasons. 1322 01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:25.600 I mean that you're right that there are no inexplicable 1323 01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.479 rational reasons why heels and heels and faces and faces 1324 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:32.520 are all just we Oh, well, you're on my side 1325 01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:35.479 of the land. Here on my side of the train tracks, 1326 01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:38.600 we all like you. Once you cross over, we automatically 1327 01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:42.239 dislike you. I mean, it's not reality, that's not life, 1328 01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:46.640 but it's the life of WWE's interpretation of professional wrestling. 1329 01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:49.680 So now I do want to get to stomping grounds. 1330 01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.479 But before I get into stomping grounds, is there anything 1331 01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:54.399 else that maybe I didn't touch on from this week 1332 01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:55.279 that you wanted to get to. 1333 01:08:55.880 --> 01:09:00.680 Well, there was one little tidbit of SmackDown that happened backstage, 1334 01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:05.800 and it was the whole Apollo Cruise Androtti part where 1335 01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:10.600 you know, Androtti basically god Selina Vega to goat in 1336 01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:12.319 Apollo Cruz and. 1337 01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:13.119 Then he attacked them. 1338 01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:16.279 And I actually liked that story and I'm just like, oh, 1339 01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:19.000 you know, this is like a cool, fresh storyline. And 1340 01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:21.319 then it made me realize, like, you know, because of 1341 01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:24.640 the wildcard rule, all these guys got in this week 1342 01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:28.159 a WWE programming was a minute and a half of 1343 01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:32.880 a backstage segment. But that's why I liked the brand split, 1344 01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:36.560 because guys like Androtti and Apollo Cruz would get screen 1345 01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:38.520 time and it was fresh feuds and those are two 1346 01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:40.600 guys that Androtti much more so. 1347 01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:42.840 Than Apolo Cruz. But those are two. 1348 01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:45.159 Guys that are very good in the ring and I 1349 01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:48.840 think have potential, but they're just buried because Raw and 1350 01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:52.039 SmackDown are constantly being taken up by the same guys 1351 01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:55.479 and the same storylines, and I just feel like, if 1352 01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:58.039 they just let the brand split alone, these are two 1353 01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:01.199 guys that could actually have a really good undercard feud 1354 01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:06.520 and maybe eventually culminating Intercontinental Championship match or Number one 1355 01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:10.000 Contenders match. And again, like, where is Finn Bowler? And 1356 01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:13.399 I think he's also a victim of this wildcard rule. 1357 01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:17.520 So that whole segment backstage made me realize that I 1358 01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:19.840 want to see your wrestlers, and I like a lot 1359 01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:22.119 of the wrestlers are not using and just kind of 1360 01:10:22.119 --> 01:10:24.479 makes me despise the wild card that much more. 1361 01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:28.119 We keep coming back to the wild card, but a 1362 01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:31.239 lot of a lot of the source of the problem 1363 01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:34.520 is the wildcard that's been implemented, and that is a 1364 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:37.479 side effect, a negative side effect. Another that we can 1365 01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:42.039 just tally up on this bandwagon of just terrible ideas, 1366 01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.640 is that, yes, because you are now bringing in the 1367 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:51.159 same predictable wrestlers into each show. Now that takes away 1368 01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:54.000 from the guys that would have gotten the screen time 1369 01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:57.039 to build new stars for the guys that are already 1370 01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:00.720 here to just kind of run the same main storyline 1371 01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.399 through and have the leftovers on SmackDown and the real 1372 01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:06.199 the progression of the storylines on Raw and then oh 1373 01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:08.800 the leftovers are smacked down. It's the same thing over 1374 01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:11.319 and over and over now since it's been implemented. And 1375 01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:15.279 guys like Andrade, who, as you said, Andrade is so 1376 01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:18.479 damn good in the ring. He's so damn good. Zelena 1377 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:21.960 Vega adds so much to his character. I love that pairing. 1378 01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:26.640 They are so good together. Apollo Cruz, who I think 1379 01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:31.520 inarguably may have been one of the i'd say least 1380 01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:35.359 successful NXT call ups since NXT has been a thing, 1381 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:37.479 and he was actually I believe one of the first 1382 01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:41.760 NXT call ups. Yeah, that could be that the spark 1383 01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:45.399 for Apollo Cruz that he needs in his career going 1384 01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:48.119 against Andrade, who could make him look really good in 1385 01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:50.840 the ring. It was and it is a few that 1386 01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:53.079 I want to see, But it's a blink of an 1387 01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:55.960 eye in terms of the airtime that it's given because 1388 01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:58.159 we got to worry about Shane McMahon and his faction, 1389 01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:01.199 or is Roman Reigns going to come out here. I mean, 1390 01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:03.239 it's the same thing as Seth Ronin's going to attack 1391 01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:05.600 somebody from behind with a chair, which I like, but 1392 01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:09.159 again it's it's over exposing the top guys when I 1393 01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:11.680 want to see less of them, which makes it more 1394 01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:14.039 special to see them, and I want to see newer 1395 01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:18.159 stars built. That's the cycle of professional wrestling, and right 1396 01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:19.520 now we're not getting that. 1397 01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:24.239 Yeah, that's that's exactly because I remember days of pay 1398 01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:27.960 per views, especially when they were Brad exclusive pay per views. 1399 01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:30.079 Where I would look forward. 1400 01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:32.119 To some of the undercard matches and I would look 1401 01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:36.159 forward to the US title feuds and the Intercontinental Championship feuds, 1402 01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:39.439 Like I find it kind of crazy that, like, yes, 1403 01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:41.880 the match was great, but the US Number one Contender 1404 01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:45.880 Championship match of the Fatal five Way where Ricochet ended 1405 01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:49.079 up winning, I find it kind of insulting to that 1406 01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:53.840 whole group of wrestlers that they were given just a 1407 01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:57.119 week to build a feud with Samojo for a title 1408 01:12:57.439 --> 01:12:58.800 before a pay per view event. 1409 01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:00.880 And as I up several times. 1410 01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:03.760 Sorry, but Finn Baller holding one of the most prestigious 1411 01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:07.880 titles on the main roster is just irrelevant and we 1412 01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:11.119 just don't see him and there's not even a challenger 1413 01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:14.439 for him, Like no one brings up the Intercontinental Championship. 1414 01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:16.600 And that's after years and years and years of the 1415 01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.039 Miz repeatedly saying that he was trying. 1416 01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:20.720 To elevate it and make it relevant. 1417 01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:23.079 And again, I just think it all comes back to 1418 01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:25.800 the Wild Carnival because they're just devoting so much time 1419 01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:30.119 to the same three or four storylines and then recycling 1420 01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:33.119 it and as you said, Raw gets the main advancement 1421 01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:35.399 and then SmackDown kind of just picks up the scraps. 1422 01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:38.279 So I just find it really a disservice to a 1423 01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:41.319 lot of these wrestlers who are very talented that they 1424 01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:44.600 can't get the proper airtime. Now obviously, Apollo Cruz, like, 1425 01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:47.640 you know, I wish you'd stop smiling, damn it, you know, 1426 01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:49.039 like it's kind of the. 1427 01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:50.159 Same thing over and over again. 1428 01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:52.600 But maybe if he got a somewhat relevant feud, he 1429 01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:55.680 could become something, I think, Androwdy's one of the best 1430 01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:58.279 up and comers they have, But how are they supposed 1431 01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:01.079 to take that next step and advance them themselves when 1432 01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:02.760 all they get is a minute and a half of 1433 01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:05.920 backstage airtime and a few that we don't even really 1434 01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:07.079 know why it's happening. 1435 01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:11.439 You can't. The answer is you can't. You can't succeed 1436 01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:14.439 with that little airtime. I know that the old adage 1437 01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:17.239 is maximize your minutes. Well when you don't even get 1438 01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:20.359 minutes you get minute, you can't do it. I mean, 1439 01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:23.159 it's just not feasible, it's not realistic, and it's not 1440 01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:27.319 fair to expect any performers to excel if they're getting 1441 01:14:27.319 --> 01:14:31.039 that little airtime. And it's unfortunate because I understand that 1442 01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:32.760 there are some wrestling fans out there that don't have 1443 01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:35.720 the patience to build new stars and that they just 1444 01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:37.279 want to see all the big names all the time, 1445 01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:39.239 and they don't care about these people that we don't 1446 01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:41.880 know their names. Well, why don't you learn their names? 1447 01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:44.960 Because eventually the people that you like to see all 1448 01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:46.640 the time, and that's all you care about. You want 1449 01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:48.960 to see your favorite moves and your biggest stars, they 1450 01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:52.680 will be cycled out because Father time wins all the time. 1451 01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:56.399 You need to constantly have people up and coming. You 1452 01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:58.520 need to have that farm system, which is why NXT 1453 01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:01.039 is so brilliant and credit a Triple H for his 1454 01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:03.880 vision and his execution of it, because that is the 1455 01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:07.119 breeding ground for the stars of tomorrow. And so when 1456 01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:10.800 you don't have that mentality on the main roster, eventually 1457 01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:14.359 you're gonna be so reliant and heavy on the top 1458 01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:18.239 stars that you are quote top stars of Roman and 1459 01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:22.159 Seth and Drew. Whatever. What if they get injured, what 1460 01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:25.000 if they decide to leave and their contract expires, they 1461 01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:28.079 go to a different promotion. There are so many variables 1462 01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:31.319 and factors that I understand. You can't get everybody hot 1463 01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:35.039 all the time, but you certainly can add new things 1464 01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:37.760 to their character. You can progress them in different ways. 1465 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.760 There are ways to advance characters and move them along 1466 01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:44.399 and give everybody an equal share of the time that 1467 01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:48.279 is allotted unsmackedown. I know SmackDown's two hours, which is 1468 01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:51.319 why I enjoy the show more. But they need to 1469 01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:56.800 understand that while all the big stars do indeed draw ratings, 1470 01:15:57.079 --> 01:16:00.520 you need to also build new stars, and you can't 1471 01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:02.840 do that if the current stars are sucking up all 1472 01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:05.560 the airtimes. So one more thing I want to get 1473 01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:07.520 to and then I want to talk about stomping grounds 1474 01:16:07.560 --> 01:16:09.600 to get your predictions. What are your thoughts on the 1475 01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:14.000 twenty four to seven Championship still fund kind of corny 1476 01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:17.840 in between, I think. 1477 01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:20.560 That it's done better than I would have anticipated. I'll 1478 01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:24.399 give them that they've come up with some creative things 1479 01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:26.520 to like keep me interested, Like, you know, the whole 1480 01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:31.000 elevator scene is kind of funny. I found the whole 1481 01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:36.079 airplane thing going to Jetta funny how Artruth covered Jenior 1482 01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:36.600 Mahal and. 1483 01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:38.000 Then everyone chased them through the plane. 1484 01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:42.920 I think that given my ultra low expectations for it, 1485 01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:46.119 it's really succeeded. I think that they've timed it properly, 1486 01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:49.680 unlike how when it originally started. I think they've kind 1487 01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:52.199 of reduced how many times they use. 1488 01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:54.079 It on a programming show. 1489 01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:57.119 So yeah, I think even though it started maybe a 1490 01:16:57.159 --> 01:16:59.880 bit too much to just get the point across, I 1491 01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:02.600 think the past month or so they've done a pretty 1492 01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:03.439 good job with it. 1493 01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:09.520 I'll second that. I mean, I was a lukewarm proponent 1494 01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:11.399 of it when Mick Foley introduced it in front of 1495 01:17:11.439 --> 01:17:16.039 my hometown crowd. That gave it no reaction, So congratulations Albany. 1496 01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:19.640 I was a proponent of it, and it was we 1497 01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:22.199 all kind of alluded to it as the PG hardcore 1498 01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:24.760 title because it's got the same rules, and we all 1499 01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:27.239 kind of we all poo poo on what it looks like. You, Oh, 1500 01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:28.880 it looks like awful. I don't need the belt to 1501 01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:31.079 look good. I don't really care about that part of it. 1502 01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:32.640 I don't care what the belt looks like so much 1503 01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:34.119 because it's not a belt that I'm supposed to take 1504 01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:40.119 seriously anyway. But in execution, they are certainly going wild 1505 01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:42.720 with the creative on this, and the creative is. The 1506 01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:45.000 upside is there is no limit to what they could do, 1507 01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:48.319 the scenarios that could happen, and I think that it 1508 01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:51.119 adds a little bit to that unpredictability that Vince McMahon 1509 01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:53.439 is looking for. But at the same time, they need 1510 01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:56.279 to be careful to not undermine their own product with 1511 01:17:56.319 --> 01:18:00.159 such a joke of a championship, and there's that fine line, 1512 01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:03.119 and right now I think they're teetering on it. I 1513 01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:06.520 love our truth as champion. I loved the Drake Maverick 1514 01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.640 interaction because Drake Maverick has been going all in on 1515 01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:13.000 his character on social media, putting up wanted signs for 1516 01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:16.439 Our Truth, just saying you know, I'm gonna find you. 1517 01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:18.880 He bumps into him backstage a couple of weeks ago. 1518 01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:20.960 They look at each other and Our Truth takes off. 1519 01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:23.680 They have a really good chemistry right now, at very 1520 01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:27.880 unexpected chemistry with Drake Maverick and Our Truth. And Our 1521 01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:31.720 Truth obviously loses this week because Drake Maverick dresses up 1522 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:35.520 as Carmela, which was really funny, and Drake Maverick ends 1523 01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:37.760 up tweeting out that you guys don't know how much 1524 01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:40.640 those fake boobs cost or something like that. Like, I mean, 1525 01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:44.600 just the hilarity of it is. It does make me chuckle. 1526 01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:49.479 It is a nice bit of a comedy segment to 1527 01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:53.680 cut through all of the quote serious storylines. I am 1528 01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:56.399 fine with it right now. I think that eventually that 1529 01:18:56.520 --> 01:18:59.680 it will get boring and we'll all go home. My god, Okay, 1530 01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:01.600 what are the doing this week? This is getting boring, 1531 01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:05.000 This is stupid, This is totally unbelievable. I'm sure we'll 1532 01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:07.279 get there. I mean, this has a shelf life, This 1533 01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:10.680 championship does have a shelf life. But for the moment, 1534 01:19:11.039 --> 01:19:16.560 I'm enjoying it. I love the pro the completely impossible 1535 01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:20.520 scenarios that happen. Do I enjoy that our Truth is 1536 01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:25.000 constantly being chased in it by don't know, the same five, six, seven, 1537 01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:28.079 eight guys that aren't having anything going on backstage, and 1538 01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:30.000 they all just chase them in a straight line all 1539 01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:33.119 the time. I mean, it gets a little bit cartoonish, 1540 01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:35.439 but I'm enjoying it for what it is right now, 1541 01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:39.039 and I'm on board it'll eventually, you know, wear itself out, 1542 01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:41.720 and the expiration date will happen. But I'm fine with it. 1543 01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:45.840 One thing about one of the wrestlers that's constantly chasing 1544 01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:48.319 our truth because I think the Our Truth has been 1545 01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:51.880 fantastic doing it. I love what Drake Maverick has done. 1546 01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:55.600 I really enjoyed that elevator scene. I found that pretty comedic. 1547 01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:59.760 But I don't know about you, Matt, but how lost 1548 01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:05.359 does EC three look in every single segment? He looks 1549 01:20:05.600 --> 01:20:10.520 like just completely lost. Like in that elevator scene, I 1550 01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:14.319 remember when everyone's fighting each other, he was literally being 1551 01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:17.520 restrained by the ref, but the ref wasn't even looking 1552 01:20:17.560 --> 01:20:20.840 at him like It's just like it's like he couldn't 1553 01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:23.920 get around the five foot five ref and I just 1554 01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:28.359 he it's almost distracting that like as soon as the 1555 01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:32.600 segment comes out, like I automatically focus on him, and 1556 01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:35.600 he's just just so bad And I don't want to 1557 01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:38.840 be mean, but he's just bad. And he's never even 1558 01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:41.840 said a word. And like, okay, his segment on Raw 1559 01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:44.079 when he got clobbered by Seth but the chair was 1560 01:20:44.439 --> 01:20:47.760 purely funny. But aside from that, just like the twenty 1561 01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:51.399 four to seven Championship moments, like he's so he stands 1562 01:20:51.439 --> 01:20:54.039 out in the worst ways and I just can't understand 1563 01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:55.359 how clumsy he is. 1564 01:20:57.199 --> 01:20:59.960 Yeah, this is this is a tough one with ease seats. 1565 01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:03.239 As you said with the elevator segment, Yeah, I'm on 1566 01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:04.920 board with that. It made no sense that he couldn't 1567 01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:08.640 get past the referee. It's just preposterous, I mean ridiculous. 1568 01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:12.479 And he when he game to the main roster, I 1569 01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:15.000 believe he was in a very very short program with 1570 01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:17.640 Dean Ambrose. I think he lost one week and one 1571 01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:21.159 another week. The crowd didn't react to him in any 1572 01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:25.600 kind of significant way, and he's just all over the place. 1573 01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:28.119 In the twenty four seven Championship trying to be a referee. 1574 01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:29.960 They don't know what the hell to do with him. 1575 01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:34.039 I mean, it's very clear right now they're going here, there, up, down, 1576 01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:38.600 left and right. And what's very interesting, though, beyond this 1577 01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:42.560 this disaster that he has so far had in WWE, 1578 01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:45.920 is that when they were doing all of the promos 1579 01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:49.439 for hey, we're bringing up new stars, and Lars Sullivan 1580 01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:52.479 was one of the freaks. And obviously he's injured for 1581 01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:54.439 the next six to nine months with a knee injury, 1582 01:21:54.479 --> 01:21:58.199 which is I'm kind of sad about. Honestly. I think 1583 01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:04.880 that when you have three as one of the stars 1584 01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:08.239 of that promo, if you remember, it was just craziness. 1585 01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:09.840 I mean they were talking about all these new stars 1586 01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:11.560 that are gonna come up boom boom, boom, and then 1587 01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:13.920 it slowed down and was EC three walking into a 1588 01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:16.000 room in a suit, and you were like, oh, well, 1589 01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:18.640 they're clearly going to focus on him, because he seems 1590 01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:20.880 to be the focal point of this promo video that 1591 01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:24.000 they aired like four hundred times leading up to all 1592 01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:27.720 of these this change that they were implementing, and since 1593 01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:32.199 then they've done absolutely nothing, zero less than zero with 1594 01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:35.359 EC three. He doesn't look lost. He looks like he's 1595 01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:38.479 in another universe right now. He looks like he's he 1596 01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:41.319 doesn't know what to do, where to go, And I 1597 01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:43.680 really hope that they know and figure out what to 1598 01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:44.800 do with him. 1599 01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:48.880 Yeah, I think it hurts his reputation and more that 1600 01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:53.039 there was so much hype behind him and like, okay, 1601 01:22:53.359 --> 01:22:58.000 his initial feud with Deeve Ambers was underwhelming, but he can't. 1602 01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:00.000 Just pour cold water on him. I'm not gonna lie. 1603 01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:02.920 I'm not the biggest fan of him, and I wasn't 1604 01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:05.399 as soon as he debuted it. But like, what are 1605 01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:08.359 you saying to the other guys coming up from NXC 1606 01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:10.720 that you build and hype up this guy so much 1607 01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:13.600 and so much and then he's just become such an 1608 01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:16.560 utter joke, Like I don't know how he could ever 1609 01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:19.279 come back from what happened to him on RAW where 1610 01:23:19.319 --> 01:23:21.479 he got obliterated with the chair and then the New 1611 01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:24.680 Day mocks him where again, like come on, really like 1612 01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:27.079 he's that like they were acting as if he was dead, 1613 01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:30.520 Like let's be real, Like I'm all about comedy, but 1614 01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:32.600 after a certain point it just kind of becomes hokey 1615 01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:37.000 and unrealistic. But aside from that, like that segment alone 1616 01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:40.520 buried him. There's no way that he can ever come 1617 01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:44.920 back from this and be a somewhat relevant wrestler or superstar, 1618 01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:47.439 as they like to say. And I just I can't 1619 01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:51.800 understand how that early into this guy's career, especially after 1620 01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:55.359 all of this hype behind him, and you thought that 1621 01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:58.079 they were gonna give him this big push, especially that 1622 01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:01.600 he had that opening feud with Dnamor was obviously Ambrose 1623 01:24:01.720 --> 01:24:03.399 was on his way out, so he wasn't held in 1624 01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:04.399 as fire regard. 1625 01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:07.239 But it's just how could you bury a guy so 1626 01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:10.800 so fast and not even give him a chance to breathe? 1627 01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:16.520 Well, they're doing it. And again, I didn't follow EC 1628 01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:21.560 three too much before his WWE entrance, to be honest 1629 01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:23.520 with you, Like I knew a little bit about him, 1630 01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:26.920 I didn't follow him beyond or before that too much. 1631 01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:30.279 So if you didn't know anything about him before, you 1632 01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:33.159 would just think that this guy is here to be 1633 01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:36.680 used as an enhancement talent. And like you said, he's 1634 01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:40.199 basically laying there like a corpse after a few chair shots. 1635 01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:42.760 Really all he did was get hit in the back. 1636 01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:44.560 You didn't get hit in the skull. Chair shots of 1637 01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:46.479 the skull are gone. I mean, you got knocked out 1638 01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:49.439 from being hit in the back. Really, I mean, and 1639 01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:51.680 then they made a reference to weekend at Bernie's and 1640 01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:53.760 all that stuff. I mean, it was clearly just a 1641 01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:56.760 segment to try to make people laugh or Vince McMahon, 1642 01:24:56.920 --> 01:24:59.439 you know, sitting backstage, you know Nie slapping and chuckling, 1643 01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:01.840 and a lot of this humor seems to be Vince 1644 01:25:01.920 --> 01:25:05.560 McMahon driven, and any nine times out of ten, Vince 1645 01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:09.960 McMahon humor is not the majority of the audience's taste 1646 01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:13.520 in humor. So yeah, it's really just a shame that 1647 01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:17.159 they're doing with him. Find something for him, do anything anything, 1648 01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:19.800 I don't care what it is, but find something in 1649 01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:22.319 stick with it. And right now they don't have a direction. 1650 01:25:22.520 --> 01:25:25.840 So let's get to stomping grounds. And I want to 1651 01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:28.039 start right at the top of the card here, not 1652 01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:31.000 waste any time. I'm gonna go with the Universal Championship 1653 01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:36.800 of Seth Rollins and Baron Corbin. That floating guest referee 1654 01:25:36.840 --> 01:25:38.479 is out there. I think we all know who it's 1655 01:25:38.479 --> 01:25:42.039 going to be, so I won't steal your thunder. What 1656 01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:44.119 are your thoughts on this match? Who's that special guest 1657 01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:45.000 referee going to be. 1658 01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:48.960 If I were to take a guess, I would have 1659 01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:52.520 to guess Elias. But again, I'm not too sure of it. 1660 01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:55.279 You seem more sure than me, but I was gonna 1661 01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:58.720 guess Elias. I think that no matter who the guest 1662 01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:02.600 referee is gonna be, I think Seth Rawlins is gonna win. 1663 01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:06.560 And I just think that Baron Corbin's have a placeholder 1664 01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:07.760 challenger right now. 1665 01:26:08.079 --> 01:26:09.439 I do like what they've done. 1666 01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:11.720 With Baron Corbin, but just not enough to overtake Seth 1667 01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:12.720 Rawlins for the title. 1668 01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:17.600 Yes, I agree with the outcome, so I'm gonna second 1669 01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:20.560 that that Seth Rollins isn't gonna lose. He's on fire. 1670 01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:24.319 Baron Corbin's champion would be a disaster, ratings disaster more 1671 01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:27.279 than it is now. Seth has really got a lot 1672 01:26:27.319 --> 01:26:30.199 of momentum. To use the corporate buzzword, he is on 1673 01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:34.319 a tear and he won it WrestleMania. Again. My argument 1674 01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:38.000 that WrestleMania Championship wins need to stick and this one will. 1675 01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:42.800 So my pick though for referee. And I'm only saying 1676 01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:47.119 this confidently because I had heard someone suggest it and go, oh, 1677 01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:49.039 how is this person not going to be the special 1678 01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:52.079 guest referee, and that is one and only brock Lesner 1679 01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:56.279 as a special guest referee, because if Baron Corbin has 1680 01:26:56.359 --> 01:27:01.119 him as a special guest referee, then it would essentially 1681 01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:04.760 put doom and gloom to Seth Rollins as champion. I mean, 1682 01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:08.039 at least in the story arc of brock Lesner being 1683 01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:11.119 the special guest referee, and if he is and then 1684 01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:15.520 Baron Corbyn, which I think he's going to lose somehow, 1685 01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:18.000 Seth Rollins wins the match, but he'll be beaten down 1686 01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:20.279 and worn down from the match, which would put brock 1687 01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:24.279 Lesner in a very advantageous position which brock Leser would 1688 01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:26.119 want to be in if he was a special guest 1689 01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:28.800 referee to cash in his money in the bank contract. 1690 01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:30.640 Do I think he's going to cash in? Maybe not, 1691 01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:34.000 but the scenario just seems to make sense that brock 1692 01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:36.600 Lesner would be the special guest referee. What do you 1693 01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:37.079 think about that? 1694 01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:39.479 I think that would be great. Do you think it 1695 01:27:39.479 --> 01:27:42.800 would be really cool? I didn't even think about brock Lesnar. 1696 01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:45.319 I was just under the impression that they were going 1697 01:27:45.399 --> 01:27:47.720 to kind of let brock sit a bit and lurk 1698 01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:50.439 in the weeds and aka let him have time off 1699 01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:53.600 that we all know he loves. But no, if that's 1700 01:27:53.640 --> 01:27:55.880 the case, I think it would be the best case scenario. 1701 01:27:57.439 --> 01:28:00.279 It would kind of suck to have him, you know, 1702 01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:03.840 kate the belt away from Seth because one thing I'll 1703 01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:07.199 say about Brock is that they can have another failed 1704 01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:10.119 cash in. So the only reason why I think they 1705 01:28:10.159 --> 01:28:11.880 may not do that is to build up when you 1706 01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:14.720 said they want Seth to run with the belt here 1707 01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:17.880 have a good long title run, but they can have 1708 01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:20.720 another failed cash into the third year in a row, 1709 01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:23.000 or also just diminish the value of the money in 1710 01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:23.359 the bank. 1711 01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:25.760 So I think that's a really cool concept. 1712 01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:27.720 I'm just not sure if they would go with that 1713 01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:29.680 and have Brock failed cash it in. 1714 01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:33.920 Very possible. Yeah, I don't think a failed cash in 1715 01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:37.600 by brock Leaser especially would I don't. I think that 1716 01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:40.399 would be disastrous. As much as nobody really wants to 1717 01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:46.159 see Brocklezer's champion anymore, I think the prestige and value 1718 01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:48.079 of the money the bank briefcase is worth more at 1719 01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:50.199 this point because Seth could come back the next night, 1720 01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:52.239 challenge Brock somehow and even win it back the next 1721 01:28:52.239 --> 01:28:56.520 ton unraw. I mean it's very possible so that you know, 1722 01:28:56.840 --> 01:28:59.159 Brockleaser could cash in, and maybe he does, and maybe 1723 01:28:59.239 --> 01:29:02.119 we just say, okay, good, Brock doesn't have a championship, 1724 01:29:02.159 --> 01:29:03.920 he doesn't have money in the bank, go away for 1725 01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:06.479 a little while. And we keep thinking Brock's just gonna 1726 01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:08.840 kind of go away. And every time we think he's 1727 01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:11.399 gonna go away and sit on his farm in Minnesota, 1728 01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:14.279 he ends up showing up out of nowhere. And I 1729 01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:17.319 like that to a point because it's not predictable. But 1730 01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:20.279 at the same time, Brock Lesnar needs something in his 1731 01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:22.800 character as well. It's just kind of the same old Brock. 1732 01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:26.159 He's Brock freaking Lesnar. I mean, think about who he is. 1733 01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:30.760 He doesn't need to pick people apart at their weakest moment. 1734 01:29:31.079 --> 01:29:33.520 He is the guy that was the UFC champion and 1735 01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:36.880 came in and dominated the sport. He's the guy that 1736 01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:42.000 came in and demolished the WWE stars, the wrestlers. Think 1737 01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:45.359 about who he's beaten. He's beaten Goldberg, he's beaten Big Show, 1738 01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:48.720 He's beaten the Rock. Like, you don't need to have 1739 01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:52.800 Brock Lesnar playing this heel character as this guy that 1740 01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:54.680 oh I'm gonna I'm only gonna cash in when you're 1741 01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:57.920 at your weakest. Brock doesn't need to be that. And 1742 01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:00.199 I know he's a heel, but that's not Brock. I 1743 01:30:00.239 --> 01:30:02.840 need Brock to be Brock, and Brock hasn't felt like 1744 01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:04.800 himself for quite some time now. 1745 01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:09.279 Yeah, and that's why I found it kind of weird 1746 01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:12.720 that he like planned his cash in after the Super. 1747 01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.319 Showdown, which I know how you felt about that show 1748 01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:17.600 because I listened to your random about it. 1749 01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:21.840 But yeah, I think that a scenario of brought me 1750 01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:24.760 the ref and then cashing in on vulnerable sent rollins, 1751 01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:27.439 I don't think that would be too good for his character. 1752 01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:30.039 I think, as you mentioned, they should get brought back. 1753 01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.920 On the whole train of doing everything face to face, 1754 01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:35.199 beating the hell out the guy's face to face. 1755 01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:36.880 He doesn't need any advantages. 1756 01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:39.439 That's why I did find it a bit weird that 1757 01:30:39.439 --> 01:30:41.960 they put the money in the bank on him so quickly. 1758 01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:45.359 But look look at the braun Stroman how he did 1759 01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:47.560 it last year. Obviously it was a failed cash in, 1760 01:30:48.039 --> 01:30:50.960 but in a similar aspect, he wanted to face Roman 1761 01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:53.920 face to face. So I think Brock will eventually do 1762 01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:56.600 that but I'm kind of expecting something more down the 1763 01:30:56.640 --> 01:31:00.119 line towards SummerSlam a bit because as of right now, well, 1764 01:31:00.239 --> 01:31:03.359 I think people are still like on their heels for 1765 01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:06.279 Brock to come back, because we had what three four 1766 01:31:06.319 --> 01:31:06.800 weeks of. 1767 01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:09.159 Brock consistently being on television for a bit. 1768 01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:11.600 So I think now they want to let people kind 1769 01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:14.680 of forget about Brock a little bit and then finally 1770 01:31:14.760 --> 01:31:18.000 come in and actually surprise people when he does show up. 1771 01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:23.079 Very possible. I mean, that was just a logical choice 1772 01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:24.439 that I was like, oh, because I didn't think of 1773 01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:25.760 it either, And I'm like, how did I not think 1774 01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:27.439 of that? But it would make sense for him to 1775 01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:30.600 come in as a special guest referee. I'm fine with 1776 01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:32.680 a long periods of time without seeing brock Lesner, at 1777 01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:35.800 least in his current incantation. I want to see a 1778 01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:39.159 different brock Lesner, maybe one that, even if he cuts 1779 01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:41.680 his own promos or whatever, they're just short, sweet, to 1780 01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:44.520 the point, because that's where brock Lesner lives and thrives. 1781 01:31:44.680 --> 01:31:48.760 He's never been a good long promo guy. That's why 1782 01:31:48.800 --> 01:31:50.600 Paul Haym is with him and is a perfect mouthpiece 1783 01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:53.239 for him. Yeah, but I would also like to see 1784 01:31:53.960 --> 01:31:56.680 somebody get an advantage on brock Lesner or face him 1785 01:31:56.720 --> 01:31:58.880 face to face and get an advantage without having to 1786 01:31:58.960 --> 01:32:01.920 kick him in the nuts. Like the only way that 1787 01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:04.239 Seth Rollins has been able to get an advantage is 1788 01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:07.119 by kicking him between the legs. That has been the 1789 01:32:07.159 --> 01:32:10.279 only way. And as a babyface, I'm just like, come on, 1790 01:32:10.520 --> 01:32:12.800 even the Undertaker didn't when he faced brock Lesner a 1791 01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:16.319 couple of years ago. I don't want that. I want 1792 01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:18.239 to see a baby face be able to go on, 1793 01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:21.720 like you know, Manda Man, toe to toe and be 1794 01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:23.399 able to find a way to get an advantage on 1795 01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:26.039 Brock without having to resort to that. And it's just 1796 01:32:26.760 --> 01:32:29.920 it diminishes the babyface's credibility every time I see it. 1797 01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:33.760 Yeah, And I think that's just it shows just how 1798 01:32:33.920 --> 01:32:38.199 much Stock convinces put into brock Lesner and that he 1799 01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:41.359 wants to build Brock as like this bigger than life 1800 01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:44.760 character that even the best of the best wrestlers need 1801 01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:45.880 to cheat to beat him. 1802 01:32:46.079 --> 01:32:47.000 But you're right, it. 1803 01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:49.800 Takes away from the whole baby face because yes, Seth 1804 01:32:49.880 --> 01:32:52.920 climbed that mountain and finally beat Brock on the grandest 1805 01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:55.039 stage of them all, but like at what. 1806 01:32:54.880 --> 01:32:57.479 Cost did he have to do that? So yeah, I 1807 01:32:57.520 --> 01:32:59.680 would like to see someone be Brock. 1808 01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:03.960 Well, obviously we know Triple H did it and Goldberg 1809 01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:06.119 did it, but like it doesn't always have to be 1810 01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:09.880 the select few that Vince chooses. And as we brought 1811 01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:13.279 up before, like he always relies on like the established legends, 1812 01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:17.680 but like, let Seth beat him clean as Roman did, 1813 01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:20.880 because it always kind of leaves that Asterix beside him 1814 01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:22.039 or that. 1815 01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:24.000 That stain on him. And even now, you. 1816 01:33:23.960 --> 01:33:26.000 Know, like Seth beat the holy hell out of him 1817 01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:27.720 that super showdout, but you did it with a low 1818 01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:31.000 blow and twenty four times you hit him with a chair. 1819 01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:34.079 So again, like it's cool to see him get the 1820 01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:36.359 better of Brock because it shows that he's smart and 1821 01:33:36.399 --> 01:33:38.920 he'll do anything, but it takes to win the title 1822 01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:41.560 and take Brock down, which I could kind of get behind. 1823 01:33:42.039 --> 01:33:44.439 But again, it would be nice to actually see him 1824 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:47.760 be able to be brought clean and troop baby face fashion. 1825 01:33:49.319 --> 01:33:51.880 So I think we're both on board with Seth retains 1826 01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:55.880 as long as Brock doesn't cash in. Yes, all right, 1827 01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:58.840 So with that said, moving on to the other big 1828 01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:03.159 championship match, be Kingston against Dolve Zigler in a steel cage. 1829 01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:06.920 I'm gonna take a breath and a pause. What are 1830 01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:07.359 your thoughts? 1831 01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:08.319 Uh? 1832 01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:12.600 I think Kofe's gonna win. I think Kofe's gonna win clean. 1833 01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:16.880 Because obviously Xavier got involved in the match at Super Showdown, 1834 01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:20.159 which I liked because it allowed for the storyline to 1835 01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:22.079 advance a bit and set up a rematch. 1836 01:34:22.600 --> 01:34:24.760 I think it's probably going to be the match of 1837 01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:25.119 the night. 1838 01:34:25.159 --> 01:34:27.560 These two guys inside the steel cage is gonna be 1839 01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:31.119 something to be seen. But I think that eventually Kofi 1840 01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:33.680 will come out on top. He's gonna win, and then 1841 01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:36.239 they'll finally close the book on this storyline and move 1842 01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:38.960 on to bigger and better things. But I will add 1843 01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:43.239 one tidbit that I do think that when Brock does 1844 01:34:43.399 --> 01:34:46.119 cash it, it will be on Kofi and not seth. 1845 01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:47.800 Hm. 1846 01:34:48.520 --> 01:34:52.920 I was thinking the same thing. Really yeah, Well, I 1847 01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:57.319 don't know if it'll happen on Sunday night, but people 1848 01:34:57.399 --> 01:34:59.520 keep thinking it's definitely gonna be set. It's gonna be set, 1849 01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:02.039 that's gonna be and you're not even thinking about Kofe. 1850 01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:04.600 And I think it very well could be. And think 1851 01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:06.960 about the heat that that would put on Brock lesn 1852 01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:10.239 to beat Kofee Kingston. That feel good story comes crashing 1853 01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:12.680 down to a guy that is going to hold that 1854 01:35:12.800 --> 01:35:15.039 the WWE Championship, which has a hell of a lot 1855 01:35:15.079 --> 01:35:18.159 more prestige in the Universal Championship does in lineage and 1856 01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:21.319 hold that championship hostage for months or maybe even years 1857 01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:24.439 at a time. I wouldn't put it pat pass Vince 1858 01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:27.880 McMahon to do that, and it could very easily happen 1859 01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:30.920 because we've seen Brock and we've seen Seth a couple 1860 01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:34.000 of times, and now it's time for maybe a new opponent, 1861 01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:36.439 and when the guy we're not thinking of is Kovie Kingston. 1862 01:35:36.479 --> 01:35:39.600 But to the match on Sunday, assuming again Brock doesn't 1863 01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:43.239 cash in on Kofee is I'm looking forward to this match. 1864 01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:45.560 You hit it on the head. This could easily be, 1865 01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:47.840 and should be, on paper, the best match of the 1866 01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:51.079 night if given enough time. Both of them are very 1867 01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:54.720 similar styles, they both sell well. They do have a 1868 01:35:54.760 --> 01:35:58.760 lot of parallels which alluded to, and they do. They 1869 01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:01.720 are both very good in the ring, and if given 1870 01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:06.039 enough time, this could be a classic. And so my 1871 01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:08.960 prediction is Kofe wins hands down, Dolf goes away, and 1872 01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:11.199 so let's get that out of the way. The only thing, 1873 01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:13.359 the only tidbit I have and an issue I have, 1874 01:36:13.960 --> 01:36:17.239 is just the premise of a steel cage match itself. 1875 01:36:17.279 --> 01:36:19.199 And I went off a little bit on this last night. 1876 01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:24.840 I don't understand that why and how escaping a cage 1877 01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:27.319 or walking through a door is a legal way of 1878 01:36:27.359 --> 01:36:30.319 winning a match. Basically, whoever can run away from their 1879 01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:33.560 opponent the fastest or the best wins the match. And 1880 01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:36.039 think about this. All you have to do if you're 1881 01:36:36.039 --> 01:36:38.800 a super athlete is you could throw somebody in the 1882 01:36:38.800 --> 01:36:41.039 other side of the ring, and if you really wanted to, 1883 01:36:41.119 --> 01:36:42.840 you could climb over the cage in the blink of 1884 01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:44.319 an eye. And think about I mean, think about all 1885 01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:47.039 these athletic crazy things that they do, but they just 1886 01:36:47.159 --> 01:36:50.079 somehow can't get up that cage in time and draw 1887 01:36:50.199 --> 01:36:53.159 it out. I don't like the fact that you can 1888 01:36:53.199 --> 01:36:55.159 open a door and walk out and win. In what 1889 01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:59.560 world is that a legal way of winning any sports 1890 01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:02.840 sport situation, Whether I don't care what sport you're talking about, 1891 01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:05.560 in you know, whether it's a competitive sport, professional wrestling, 1892 01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:08.279 it just doesn't make sense. And the fact that we're 1893 01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:11.880 supposed to believe that a steel cage always keeps out interference. 1894 01:37:12.039 --> 01:37:14.760 There's nobody gonna be able to help you. You're not 1895 01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:17.479 gonna have any help. It's just you and me. Well, 1896 01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:19.720 the last time I checked, a steel cage match is 1897 01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:22.560 a no disqualification match, which means the world could come 1898 01:37:22.560 --> 01:37:24.600 in that match, the entire locker room could come in 1899 01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:28.039 that match, and it would still be legal. So it 1900 01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:31.239 just every time I hear that and hear those two arguments, 1901 01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:35.159 it's it just hurts my brain. It should be pinfall 1902 01:37:35.319 --> 01:37:38.239 or submission only inside of a steel cage. 1903 01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:42.600 Yeah, I know, I've always personally hated the walk through 1904 01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:45.840 your door, the walk through your doorway to victory because 1905 01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:49.039 you're right, like, anyone if they try hard enough, could 1906 01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:50.960 scratch and claw their way out of there. 1907 01:37:51.159 --> 01:37:52.159 Or weasel their way out. 1908 01:37:52.199 --> 01:37:54.840 And I don't think I've ever seen someone actually win 1909 01:37:55.279 --> 01:37:57.840 by going out of the door. I don't so much 1910 01:37:57.960 --> 01:38:01.119 mind the over the top of the cage because at 1911 01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:04.159 least that proves an obstacle, like you have to actually 1912 01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:07.479 climb the damn thing and go over it before the 1913 01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:08.960 guy can come up and stop you. 1914 01:38:09.359 --> 01:38:11.600 But yeah, the whole. 1915 01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:13.399 Like argument of like oh yeah, like there's gonna be 1916 01:38:13.479 --> 01:38:16.119 no more interferences side like oh come on. You know, 1917 01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:20.399 one of the most iconic steel cage matches, well maybe 1918 01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:22.920 not iconic, but one that sticks out in my mind 1919 01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:25.239 is the one that the Rock and Stone Gold ad 1920 01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:28.840 after wrestling its seventeen, when Vince and Triple Ah got 1921 01:38:28.880 --> 01:38:30.680 in the cage and they just beat the holy hell 1922 01:38:30.720 --> 01:38:33.399 out of the Rock and formed the two man Power Trip. 1923 01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:35.479 And I'm just like, Okay, well, what the hell was 1924 01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:38.439 the ply of that they just basically trapped the Rock 1925 01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:40.119 inside and destroyed them. 1926 01:38:40.399 --> 01:38:43.479 But yeah, I've hated that whole narrative and it's. 1927 01:38:43.319 --> 01:38:46.359 Gone on for as long as I could remember about 1928 01:38:46.439 --> 01:38:48.279 like oh well, no one's gonna get in now it's 1929 01:38:48.359 --> 01:38:51.239 just you and me. Then maybe I've just become accustomed 1930 01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:54.000 to it and I don't really, you know, react to 1931 01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:56.840 it the same way anymore. But yeah, I'm with you there, 1932 01:38:56.880 --> 01:38:58.840 the whole notion of being able to walk out of 1933 01:38:58.840 --> 01:39:01.960 the door and win, or that we're supposed to believe 1934 01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:05.079 that no one's cain't get inside, like, and I think 1935 01:39:05.079 --> 01:39:08.000 what makes it worse is that we all know that 1936 01:39:08.079 --> 01:39:10.920 when it's actually a match where no one's getting inside. 1937 01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:12.039 It's the hell in the Cell. 1938 01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:15.159 And I think that makes it a bit more or 1939 01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:18.960 less believable for us because WWE has an exact other 1940 01:39:19.079 --> 01:39:22.319 match that does that exact purpose that the steel cage 1941 01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:23.560 match pretends to do. 1942 01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:27.560 Yep, they do, they do. But as much as I 1943 01:39:27.720 --> 01:39:31.560 would love to make the Helenacell a prestigious match and 1944 01:39:31.680 --> 01:39:36.319 make it only for extremely deserving heated rivalries that you know, 1945 01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:39.960 you've gone from a standard wrestling match, maybe into a 1946 01:39:39.960 --> 01:39:42.319 street fight, then you go to the steel cage and 1947 01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:44.079 the blowoff as a hell in a cell. I mean, 1948 01:39:44.079 --> 01:39:46.079 it doesn't have to happen like that all the time, 1949 01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:49.359 but that to me would be how a natural progression 1950 01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:53.479 of a heated blood feud would end, and that the 1951 01:39:53.520 --> 01:39:55.720 Helen of Cel would be the blowoff of that feud, 1952 01:39:56.720 --> 01:39:59.920 and the Helen of Cel pay per view unfortunately to 1953 01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:01.960 all of the mistique of the Hell in a Cell 1954 01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:05.439 because it's built into the pay per view schedule, so we're, 1955 01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:07.279 you know, whatever few's happened to be going on at 1956 01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:09.199 that time, well, just Sticky in the Cell because it's 1957 01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:11.680 a cute gimmick and it's killed the Hell in a cell. 1958 01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:14.640 To me, the hell in a cell is such a sacred, 1959 01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:18.479 special place that so many amazing matches have happened, so 1960 01:40:18.520 --> 01:40:21.039 many amazing moments, from the very first one with Shawn 1961 01:40:21.119 --> 01:40:23.800 Michaels an Undertaker, which was the very first program that 1962 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:26.119 I remember watching, and it just that drew me in 1963 01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:29.720 like IMS hooked forever because of that program, all the 1964 01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:33.119 way obviously mcfoley's fall off the cage to Cactus Jack 1965 01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:35.880 retiring at the hands of Triple H and I believe 1966 01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:38.800 it was two thousand when he pedigreed him on top 1967 01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:41.960 of the cell to the Armageddon pay per view and 1968 01:40:42.119 --> 01:40:44.239 Rakishi got choke slammed off of it into like a 1969 01:40:44.239 --> 01:40:47.119 bunch of wood chips. I mean, there's so many things 1970 01:40:47.359 --> 01:40:49.920 that happened inside the cell that are special that when 1971 01:40:49.920 --> 01:40:52.319 you put it into a pay per view schedule completely 1972 01:40:52.439 --> 01:40:54.720 kills the mystique of it. But I'm getting way off track, 1973 01:40:54.800 --> 01:40:58.840 but you're right, they have a structure that could do 1974 01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:02.000 exactly what they're telling us could do. There's no roof 1975 01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:04.199 on the set, on the cage, it's just a it's 1976 01:41:04.199 --> 01:41:07.920 not even a cage by definition, has a roof. This 1977 01:41:08.079 --> 01:41:12.840 is like a four walled you know, I don't know 1978 01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:16.000 what you'd call it. It's not true, a true cage. 1979 01:41:16.119 --> 01:41:19.520 So yeah, they they are making us supposed to believe 1980 01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:21.880 that nobody can interfere. But even in hell and a cell, 1981 01:41:22.079 --> 01:41:24.520 you've seen people hide under the ring up until the 1982 01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:26.119 point when they're supposed to come out. I mean, you've 1983 01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:29.640 seen wacky things happen, but less so. But back to 1984 01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:32.079 this match, I'm really looking forward to it. I think 1985 01:41:32.119 --> 01:41:34.119 they could blow the roof off the place and I'm 1986 01:41:34.119 --> 01:41:36.880 expecting a lot of high spots, a ton of nearfalls, 1987 01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:39.880 a zigzag off the top. I'm expecting some crazy crap 1988 01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:42.880 because these two are capable of it, and I expect 1989 01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:44.800 Kofe to come out on top in the end. So 1990 01:41:45.960 --> 01:41:49.880 Roman Reigns and Drew McIntyre, I am just I'm a 1991 01:41:49.880 --> 01:41:51.479 little bit torn on this. I don't think this one's 1992 01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:54.159 as easy as most people think. And the reason is 1993 01:41:54.960 --> 01:41:58.920 Drew McIntyre has been groomed over the past couple of 1994 01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:03.560 months to be a top guy. Yet Roman Reigns is 1995 01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:07.359 the elder statesman of Vince McMahon being the top guy. Romans, 1996 01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:10.800 he's the big dog, he's the he's the gatekeeper to 1997 01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:14.119 being you know the top guy, but we saw them 1998 01:42:14.119 --> 01:42:17.199 face at WrestleMania, which we're all supposed to forget. This 1999 01:42:17.279 --> 01:42:20.880 time around, I think the program has been built much better, 2000 01:42:21.239 --> 01:42:24.720 much more properly. I'm much more invested in this program 2001 01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:26.760 than it wasn't WrestleMania, which kind of felt like a 2002 01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:29.039 last minute we'll throw these two big guys together and 2003 01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:31.279 they'll have a match. Roman came out on top of 2004 01:42:31.319 --> 01:42:34.159 that match. I wouldn't be so sure that Roman comes 2005 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:36.960 out on top of this match as revenge. I think 2006 01:42:37.039 --> 01:42:39.520 since this is the first time that they're officially meeting. 2007 01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:42.119 And I say that in air quotes, I say Drew 2008 01:42:42.199 --> 01:42:44.720 McIntyre wins this, and I say that because I think 2009 01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:47.680 Drew needs to win more than Roman does. What do 2010 01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:48.039 you think. 2011 01:42:48.840 --> 01:42:50.920 I'm with you. I think Drew's gonna win this. 2012 01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:54.479 I think that they're fully behind building this stable with 2013 01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:59.800 Shane and Drew and the revival. But I think, like 2014 01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:02.159 you said, I think Drew needs to win more. He 2015 01:43:02.279 --> 01:43:05.560 hasn't really had a big time pay per view victory 2016 01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:08.239 in a while now, and he's and I think they 2017 01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:11.159 want him to be established as an actual threat, not 2018 01:43:11.239 --> 01:43:14.239 just a lackey or just the right hand man of Shane, 2019 01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:17.159 a man. They want him to be his own guy 2020 01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:20.039 and be able to fight Roman Reigns on his own. 2021 01:43:20.079 --> 01:43:21.199 And be able to take him out. 2022 01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:24.000 Now in saying that, I don't think he's gonna win clean, 2023 01:43:24.119 --> 01:43:27.119 I think there will be outside of the ring shenanigans 2024 01:43:27.119 --> 01:43:30.279 from obviously Shane, maybe the Revival, maybe Alias or what 2025 01:43:30.399 --> 01:43:33.159 have you. But I think when it all comes, when 2026 01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:36.600 it all finishes, it will be Drew McIntyre coming on 2027 01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:40.479 top and in some way, shape or fashion. I feel 2028 01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:43.960 like this is all gonna culminate at SummerSlam. But you know, 2029 01:43:44.079 --> 01:43:47.479 Shane gets that win against Roman at Super Showdown. I 2030 01:43:47.520 --> 01:43:49.960 think they're gonna make Roman lose again here due to 2031 01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:55.039 outside interference and just keep Roman's frustrations building and boiling 2032 01:43:55.439 --> 01:43:57.920 and culminate down the line. But as for this match 2033 01:43:57.960 --> 01:43:59.960 on Sunday, I think Drew comes out with the win 2034 01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:02.800 and get some more momentum behind them. 2035 01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:05.840 They have to. It's almost as if Drew has to 2036 01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:09.279 win this because of everything that they've put in front 2037 01:44:09.319 --> 01:44:12.039 of him and everything he's talked about and said. He 2038 01:44:12.199 --> 01:44:14.199 has to back up his words. I don't care if 2039 01:44:14.199 --> 01:44:17.720 it's a clean win over Roman Reigns. And you know what, 2040 01:44:17.800 --> 01:44:20.199 I would actually prefer a clean win. I know he's 2041 01:44:20.199 --> 01:44:22.640 a heel, and heels traditionally win by hooker, crook low 2042 01:44:22.680 --> 01:44:25.800 blows feet on the ropes, refezent looking for an object. 2043 01:44:26.159 --> 01:44:29.920 I want to see Drew outright beat Roman Reigns with 2044 01:44:30.279 --> 01:44:33.880 the Claymore, which has been established as a killer move, 2045 01:44:34.159 --> 01:44:36.800 and it looks like Drew McIntyre is. It looks like 2046 01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:39.720 a shotgun going off. I mean it's sold really well, 2047 01:44:40.239 --> 01:44:43.840 nobody's kicked out of it. It's a money finisher, and 2048 01:44:43.880 --> 01:44:47.359 I would like to see Drew McIntyre outright beat Roman Reigns. 2049 01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:50.680 I would that, to me, would be the most beneficial 2050 01:44:50.680 --> 01:44:54.720 to Drew. It would establish him as a credible threat, 2051 01:44:54.920 --> 01:44:57.640 not just a guy that uses any means necessary. All 2052 01:44:57.760 --> 01:44:59.760 heels don't have to do that. You could be a 2053 01:44:59.800 --> 01:45:03.760 guy that beats your opponent clean as a heel, but 2054 01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:08.079 you're what you stand for is is demonic. It's it's 2055 01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:11.239 just nasty. Who you are as a person is terrible, 2056 01:45:11.439 --> 01:45:14.239 even if you're winning matches clean. And I think Drew 2057 01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:18.239 could do this because it would what it'll do is, yes, 2058 01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:20.279 it'll get him over as a heel, as a credible heel. 2059 01:45:21.279 --> 01:45:25.000 But when he turns babyface, eventually the fans will remember 2060 01:45:25.079 --> 01:45:26.720 that that he was this guy that just came out 2061 01:45:26.760 --> 01:45:29.680 and kicked ass. And now when he flips, you're gonna 2062 01:45:29.720 --> 01:45:32.279 remember that. So of course that's down the line. I 2063 01:45:32.279 --> 01:45:34.079 wouldn't I wouldn't want him to turn baby face for 2064 01:45:34.119 --> 01:45:37.279 a year or two. But I think that Drew needs 2065 01:45:37.279 --> 01:45:40.199 to win, and he needs to win clean and decisively. 2066 01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:44.279 Yeah, and because like I think what you said about 2067 01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:48.199 himentering babyface one day is perfect. I think that they 2068 01:45:48.279 --> 01:45:52.359 need to give the fans something to kate Drew McIntyre seriously, 2069 01:45:52.399 --> 01:45:55.279 because yeah, he's talked a big game and he's been 2070 01:45:55.399 --> 01:45:59.199 a lot of wrestlers on side matches, but like there's 2071 01:45:59.279 --> 01:46:02.840 yet to be that one big time feud that he's 2072 01:46:02.920 --> 01:46:06.359 really culminated in with a victory, because he didn't beat 2073 01:46:06.439 --> 01:46:10.960 Roman at WrestleMania. Sure he had his way with Dean Andrews, 2074 01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:13.039 but we know that Dean Androse was just doing the 2075 01:46:13.079 --> 01:46:15.760 favors going out the door. But yeah, I think that 2076 01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:19.079 for the long term vision of Drew that he really 2077 01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:22.000 needs this win. They've done a great job building up 2078 01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:24.279 to now. I really like. 2079 01:46:24.279 --> 01:46:27.119 What he's like his partnership with Sean McMahon. 2080 01:46:27.479 --> 01:46:30.359 But I do kind of fear that, like, if he 2081 01:46:30.520 --> 01:46:33.479 doesn't get this win, he'll just be viewed as an 2082 01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:35.960 afterthought because it would look kind of straighte like, Okay, 2083 01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:38.119 well Shane could beat Roman, but. 2084 01:46:38.119 --> 01:46:41.159 Drew can't, So yeah, it would hurt his reputation. 2085 01:46:41.640 --> 01:46:45.279 I think that Roman could survive it because you know, 2086 01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:47.720 Roman could just bounce back from anything due to the 2087 01:46:47.760 --> 01:46:49.039 writing and how. 2088 01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:53.479 W W has built him, you know, come back it's 2089 01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:55.439 a rive and lost to Drew McIntyre. 2090 01:46:55.680 --> 01:47:00.439 So yeah, I really think this is a crucial Andrew 2091 01:47:00.479 --> 01:47:02.760 and he really needs this victory to build it hihimself 2092 01:47:02.760 --> 01:47:03.359 in the future. 2093 01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:07.920 Roman is elastic. I think that's a good point to 2094 01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:10.840 bring up. Roman can survive, and he can survive a 2095 01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:14.279 big string of losses because Roman has been established for 2096 01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:16.279 so long in the minds of fans that he is 2097 01:47:16.319 --> 01:47:19.560 a top guy and at any moment, regardless of how 2098 01:47:19.680 --> 01:47:22.039 terrible of a losing streak he goes on who he 2099 01:47:22.119 --> 01:47:24.680 loses to, he could come back at any moment with 2100 01:47:24.840 --> 01:47:28.000 fire in his eyes and just start as wait, let 2101 01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:30.479 me say the tagline, start kicking ass and taking names. 2102 01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:32.760 He could do that. I mean, don't even get me 2103 01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:37.640 started on that forced nonsensical, corporate corporately forced into every 2104 01:47:37.680 --> 01:47:41.720 promo garbage. So that's what I think about that. It's awful. 2105 01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:45.560 But Roman could do that. Roman could easily come back 2106 01:47:45.880 --> 01:47:48.359 regardless of the losing streak, which is why Drew needs 2107 01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:50.279 this tenfold over Roman. 2108 01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:52.960 Yeah, and that's exactly it. 2109 01:47:53.079 --> 01:47:56.159 Man. You hit it on the head there, because Roman 2110 01:47:56.359 --> 01:47:59.359 just keeping knocked down and he will get up and 2111 01:47:59.399 --> 01:48:02.399 he always will and like even just like the whole 2112 01:48:02.479 --> 01:48:05.840 real life battle he had with leukemia, that he no 2113 01:48:05.880 --> 01:48:07.640 matter how many times he gets knocked. 2114 01:48:07.319 --> 01:48:11.680 Down, he will be built back up. But Drew needs it. 2115 01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:13.640 And I think Drew needs to kind of get the 2116 01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:17.039 jackpack put on him and blown away here in the 2117 01:48:17.079 --> 01:48:18.920 trajectory of you know. 2118 01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:20.680 Succeeding, and I think they're. 2119 01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:23.960 Kind of doing that with with Sea McMahon right now, 2120 01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:26.840 but he also has to find some you know, solo 2121 01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:28.119 success at the same time. 2122 01:48:29.960 --> 01:48:33.840 Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. So let's move on 2123 01:48:33.880 --> 01:48:36.800 to the Raw Women's Championship. The Becky Lynch versus Laly Evans. 2124 01:48:36.880 --> 01:48:39.159 We alluded to this a little bit before, So I 2125 01:48:39.199 --> 01:48:41.359 honestly don't have a whole lot to add to this, 2126 01:48:41.720 --> 01:48:44.840 other than I think that this will be a better 2127 01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:47.159 match than their first, which I didn't think was a disaster. 2128 01:48:47.359 --> 01:48:50.640 But it's their second match. They should get to get 2129 01:48:50.640 --> 01:48:52.920 a feel for each other more. They probably will get 2130 01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:55.800 a little bit more time. I think Becky wins and 2131 01:48:55.920 --> 01:48:57.920 I think that's the end of the story. I honestly 2132 01:48:57.920 --> 01:48:59.560 don't have a whole lot to add to this. I 2133 01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:02.760 think just as Dolf will go into the background, I 2134 01:49:02.760 --> 01:49:05.680 think Lacy Evans will fade into the background into another 2135 01:49:05.720 --> 01:49:08.640 program after Becky Lynch beats her here. So what are 2136 01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:09.279 your thoughts on that? 2137 01:49:09.720 --> 01:49:12.399 Yeah, you know, as I said before, I'm a big 2138 01:49:12.439 --> 01:49:15.000 fan of Lacey Evans, but she's not ready yet to 2139 01:49:15.119 --> 01:49:18.399 overtake someone like Becky Lynch. I think Becky's gonna win 2140 01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:20.600 clean and kind of close the book on the story 2141 01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:23.920 for this particular fear. But yeah, we kind of said 2142 01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:25.760 all we had to say before. There's not too much 2143 01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:28.359 to add. Becky wins clean and just closes it off. 2144 01:49:29.399 --> 01:49:32.079 Yeah, I mean case closed. Really, Yeah, I mean there's 2145 01:49:32.079 --> 01:49:34.600 it's very straightforward here, I believe. So all right, what 2146 01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:38.079 about the SmackDown Women's Championship. Bailey and Alexa a little 2147 01:49:38.119 --> 01:49:40.600 more interesting, so you know, you go ahead. What do 2148 01:49:40.640 --> 01:49:40.920 you think? 2149 01:49:41.720 --> 01:49:45.119 I like this story a lot, so I don't think 2150 01:49:45.159 --> 01:49:47.720 it's gonna be as cut and dry. I think that 2151 01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:51.079 it's gonna end kind of in a disqualification of sorts. 2152 01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:54.720 I think that it's going to I think I would 2153 01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:56.720 say I'm not sure who will win. 2154 01:49:57.079 --> 01:50:01.199 I will say Alexa wins via disqualification and warns a 2155 01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:04.520 future title match, because I don't think that Alexa is 2156 01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:07.159 gonna take the belt away from Bailey so soon after 2157 01:50:07.239 --> 01:50:10.119 she won it, and for the women the next pay 2158 01:50:10.119 --> 01:50:12.399 per view after she won it, because they compete at 2159 01:50:12.399 --> 01:50:15.720 Super Showdown. But yeah, I think it's gonna end in 2160 01:50:15.840 --> 01:50:21.199 disqualification match due to Niki Cross getting not a disqualification match, 2161 01:50:21.239 --> 01:50:25.359 but disqualification finished due to Nicky Cross somehow getting involved, 2162 01:50:25.720 --> 01:50:29.319 So no clean finish and just something to result in 2163 01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:32.119 a future match down the line to keep this story going. 2164 01:50:32.159 --> 01:50:34.560 As we both mentioned, we both really like this story. 2165 01:50:34.960 --> 01:50:37.840 I don't think they're quite ready to close it off completely, 2166 01:50:38.159 --> 01:50:41.399 so I would say Alexa wins disqualification, but Bailey keeps 2167 01:50:41.439 --> 01:50:41.840 the title. 2168 01:50:43.840 --> 01:50:45.800 Yeah, I feel like I'm just gonna repeat what you said. 2169 01:50:45.880 --> 01:50:48.720 It's The only thing I would change on that is 2170 01:50:49.399 --> 01:50:52.279 I think it easily and probably will be a disqualification, 2171 01:50:52.399 --> 01:50:57.880 But Bailey wins via disqualification after Nicky you know, unintentionally 2172 01:50:57.920 --> 01:51:00.640 gets caught by the referee hitting her in ahead or 2173 01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:03.000 you know, kicking her or pulling her off the apron 2174 01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:08.640 or something something will cause a disqualification. I don't care 2175 01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:11.800 who wins the disqualification because either way, the championship doesn't 2176 01:51:11.880 --> 01:51:14.560 change hands. But yes, I think that is the case. 2177 01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:16.680 This is the start of the program. I mean, this 2178 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:19.520 is their first match. It can't be a clean finish 2179 01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:22.279 either way. I believe that it is going to be 2180 01:51:22.600 --> 01:51:26.720 a three maybe longer pay per view match, or a 2181 01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:30.359 pay per view long feud. This could actually go all 2182 01:51:30.359 --> 01:51:32.640 the way to Summer Slam. I really believe that if 2183 01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:34.840 this is done correctly and we have no more Bailey 2184 01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:38.079 This is your Life segments, this could be a program 2185 01:51:38.119 --> 01:51:40.760 that does culminate at SummerSlam. So yeah, this is going 2186 01:51:40.840 --> 01:51:44.119 to be a finish that has nothing clean about it. 2187 01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:47.000 There's gonna be a lot of tomfoolery in this finish, 2188 01:51:47.119 --> 01:51:50.119 and you know that's just WW logic. I mean, there's 2189 01:51:50.159 --> 01:51:53.039 other ways to do it, but based on how WWE 2190 01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:56.600 presents their programs, especially at the beginning of programs. Yeah, 2191 01:51:56.680 --> 01:51:59.479 I think that's really the only way that this program 2192 01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:02.399 can start off is thea disqualification or some kind of 2193 01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:04.079 some kind of funky ending. 2194 01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:05.640 Yeah, exactly. 2195 01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:08.960 And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, because 2196 01:52:09.239 --> 01:52:11.520 if you have a I don't think it'd be wise 2197 01:52:11.600 --> 01:52:14.600 to the belt off of Bailey this way. And if 2198 01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:18.880 Bailey wins, the story's pretty much done. So I think 2199 01:52:18.920 --> 01:52:21.600 that if she wins clean that is, then the story's 2200 01:52:21.600 --> 01:52:23.680 pretty much done. So yeah, I think in some way 2201 01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:28.159 there's gonna be some nonsense that goes on outside, something 2202 01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:31.199 to keep the storyline going and warrants Alexa Bliss to. 2203 01:52:31.159 --> 01:52:33.439 Have another match. And I think that's good. 2204 01:52:33.279 --> 01:52:35.880 As I just said, because these two clearly do have 2205 01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:39.920 chemistry outside the ring. They will have chemistry inside the ring. 2206 01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:42.840 They are two very good in ring competitors. And I 2207 01:52:42.880 --> 01:52:45.920 think the whole wrinkle of the effect of Nikki Cross 2208 01:52:46.239 --> 01:52:49.159 has led to a way more complex story than we've 2209 01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:50.920 just been presented on the surface. 2210 01:52:52.600 --> 01:52:55.680 Yeah, this is we've kind of said it all. I mean, 2211 01:52:55.680 --> 01:52:59.039 this is the beginning of a program, So Okay, the 2212 01:52:59.079 --> 01:53:02.800 United States Championshi, Samoa Joe, and Ricochet. I'm gonna toss 2213 01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:03.560 it to you first on this. 2214 01:53:04.439 --> 01:53:06.159 I think Samojo wins here. 2215 01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:09.399 I'm hoping, as you brought up before, that it's a 2216 01:53:09.520 --> 01:53:13.319 start of a long run. I think Rikoshet won that 2217 01:53:13.359 --> 01:53:16.840 fatal five way match to take the first loss to 2218 01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:20.479 Samoa Jo. I don't think Rikoshet is gonna beat Samojo 2219 01:53:20.560 --> 01:53:23.159 at Stomping Grounds to win his first title. I just 2220 01:53:23.199 --> 01:53:25.960 don't think the stars are aligned for that. I think 2221 01:53:25.960 --> 01:53:28.119 that it will be a very good match. I'm looking 2222 01:53:28.159 --> 01:53:31.079 forward to it, but I just don't see how Rikoshet 2223 01:53:31.159 --> 01:53:34.079 comes out. I think it's a good first step to 2224 01:53:34.760 --> 01:53:38.119 first step rather to get to rik Aschet's feet wet 2225 01:53:38.159 --> 01:53:40.439 a bit in the title scene and his first kick 2226 01:53:40.479 --> 01:53:43.319 at the can of the title, but no, there's no way. 2227 01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:45.039 That he can come out here with a victory. I 2228 01:53:45.039 --> 01:53:45.800 think Joe wins. 2229 01:53:47.279 --> 01:53:51.960 So my brain is telling me, don't pick Rikoshet. This 2230 01:53:52.119 --> 01:53:56.239 is a very easy pick. It's a slam dunk. The 2231 01:53:56.359 --> 01:53:59.439 problem is everything that we just talked about a little 2232 01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:02.199 while ago about Samoa Joe and the way that WWE 2233 01:54:02.239 --> 01:54:05.199 treats him. I could see rick Aschet winning this, and 2234 01:54:05.239 --> 01:54:08.640 I'm going to pick him for that reason that WWE 2235 01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:12.600 has not only devalued Samoa Joe to this point, but 2236 01:54:12.720 --> 01:54:15.039 also they don't seem to really care about the United 2237 01:54:15.079 --> 01:54:18.920 States Championship itself, so by Rikoshet winning it, it's not 2238 01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:22.640 the most prestigious. It's not in line with or or 2239 01:54:22.680 --> 01:54:25.319 at the same level as even the Intercontinental Championship. Even 2240 01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:28.439 it's if it's presented to be. It's not. So for 2241 01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:31.239 Ricochet to win this, I think would be I think 2242 01:54:31.239 --> 01:54:33.439 the fans will go nuts. They the fans are behind 2243 01:54:33.520 --> 01:54:36.159 him because he does really crazy, wacky moves even though 2244 01:54:36.199 --> 01:54:39.359 we haven't heard a word from him yet. He is exciting, 2245 01:54:39.399 --> 01:54:41.960 he's fun to watch, all of that, which is true. 2246 01:54:42.399 --> 01:54:46.119 So I think Samoa Joe loses here. I'm not gonna 2247 01:54:46.119 --> 01:54:47.880 bet any money on it at all. Then this is 2248 01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:50.680 probably a dumb pick, but I'm gonna go There's always 2249 01:54:50.680 --> 01:54:52.680 that one or two, those one or two matches that 2250 01:54:52.720 --> 01:54:56.079 you think are locks that Vince ends up being going out. No, 2251 01:54:56.159 --> 01:54:58.000 they think this is gonna happen. This looks too predictable. 2252 01:54:58.039 --> 01:55:00.560 We're gonna We're gonna change it up, and this could 2253 01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:02.600 be that one. This could be that one that is 2254 01:55:02.640 --> 01:55:06.640 that's sleeping giant. So I'm gonna go with Ricochet winning 2255 01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:09.640 the United States Championship here to shake things up. As 2256 01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:11.960 Vince McMahon would say, I'm just trying to get in 2257 01:55:12.039 --> 01:55:14.840 that man's brain. And I think that Rikoshet could win 2258 01:55:14.880 --> 01:55:17.720 this and try to bring some life back to the 2259 01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:21.039 United States Championship. And do I want that to happen. 2260 01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:21.359 No? 2261 01:55:21.439 --> 01:55:24.560 Do I think that should happen. No, But I could 2262 01:55:24.600 --> 01:55:27.520 see a case of Vince McMahon wanting it to happen. 2263 01:55:28.359 --> 01:55:30.800 Oh yeah, I mean all the points you just outlined, 2264 01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:33.359 it could very well happen. Like I would have never 2265 01:55:33.399 --> 01:55:35.800 thought in a million years that being Mysteria would have 2266 01:55:36.239 --> 01:55:39.279 beat Samojo for the US title, and just the way 2267 01:55:39.319 --> 01:55:41.600 that Simojo has been treated as all the points you 2268 01:55:41.720 --> 01:55:45.600 just brought out, it's completely realistic. And I have to 2269 01:55:45.720 --> 01:55:48.119 keep bringing myself back down to earth about the US 2270 01:55:48.239 --> 01:55:52.000 title because you're right, it's not that prestigious anymore. They 2271 01:55:52.039 --> 01:55:54.600 don't seem to care about it. It is kind of 2272 01:55:54.600 --> 01:55:57.760 an afterthought. So even if rick A were to win, 2273 01:55:58.439 --> 01:56:01.399 it's really not a big deal. And that would kind 2274 01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:03.680 of stuck for Riccoshet, like his first title win is 2275 01:56:03.680 --> 01:56:06.720 supposed to be this big monumental achievement, but it's the 2276 01:56:06.840 --> 01:56:10.319 US title who no one really cares about. But no, yeah, 2277 01:56:10.479 --> 01:56:12.720 I think that he could go either way. Just based 2278 01:56:12.760 --> 01:56:15.119 on McMahon wine to swerve US. I don't think that's 2279 01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:16.479 a bad pick at all on your part. 2280 01:56:17.600 --> 01:56:20.960 And think about the way Simo Joe Quote won the 2281 01:56:21.119 --> 01:56:26.319 United States Championship. He inexplicably had his long time he 2282 01:56:26.399 --> 01:56:29.119 did rival just handed to him. So that tells you 2283 01:56:29.199 --> 01:56:32.239 what Vince McMahon thinks about the United States Championship. So 2284 01:56:32.960 --> 01:56:35.199 this could Now I'm kind of like talking myself into it, 2285 01:56:35.199 --> 01:56:37.039 but I really believe Rikoschhet could win this. So that's 2286 01:56:37.079 --> 01:56:41.600 my pick. SmackDown Tag Team Championships with Daniel, Bryan and 2287 01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:45.199 Rowan against Heavy Machinery. I think this one is a 2288 01:56:45.239 --> 01:56:48.560 pretty darn good lock and I don't think anybody's gonna 2289 01:56:48.600 --> 01:56:51.920 be surprised by this that Daniel, Brian and Rowan retain, 2290 01:56:52.039 --> 01:56:55.039 and my god, they should retain his. I enjoy Heavy Machinery. 2291 01:56:55.119 --> 01:56:58.760 I enjoy Otis and Tucker, especially Otis, who he's clearly 2292 01:56:58.800 --> 01:57:02.600 the star out of the They're funny, but they're also 2293 01:57:02.640 --> 01:57:05.279 serious when they need to be, and they're legitimate, so 2294 01:57:05.319 --> 01:57:08.359 they're not just a comedy act only. But they're not ready, 2295 01:57:08.600 --> 01:57:12.079 just as Ricochet. It doesn't seem ready this one. Really, 2296 01:57:12.119 --> 01:57:15.239 they are really not ready. And Daniel Brian and Rowan 2297 01:57:15.279 --> 01:57:18.720 are on a roll as the Tag Team Champion champions 2298 01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:22.279 on SmackDown Live, and they're bringing credibility back to the 2299 01:57:22.279 --> 01:57:25.800 tag team division. They are clearly the top team. There's 2300 01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:29.239 just no reason to have Heavy Machinery win this match 2301 01:57:29.640 --> 01:57:31.800 Daniel Brian and Rowan walk away as champions. 2302 01:57:32.239 --> 01:57:35.119 Yeah, I'm with you there. I love Heavy Machinery. 2303 01:57:35.520 --> 01:57:37.800 I'm gonna sound like a macoing you here, but yeah, 2304 01:57:37.840 --> 01:57:41.079 they're just not ready, especially in a SmackDown world that 2305 01:57:41.159 --> 01:57:44.920 the tag team division isn't especially deep. I think Rowan 2306 01:57:45.039 --> 01:57:48.880 and Daniel Bryan are single handedly carrying it and making 2307 01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:51.640 those titles relevant just because of the star power attached 2308 01:57:51.640 --> 01:57:55.039 to Daniel Brian. And give give Rome for addit like 2309 01:57:55.119 --> 01:57:57.319 you brought up before. He's done a really good job. 2310 01:57:57.800 --> 01:58:00.680 But yeah, there's just no logical scenario have hav Your 2311 01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:03.479 Machinery comes out with a win. I think it's gonna 2312 01:58:03.479 --> 01:58:05.119 be a good match. I think it's gonna be a 2313 01:58:06.039 --> 01:58:09.359 entertaining match. I hope that it's not the last match 2314 01:58:09.439 --> 01:58:11.479 these two teams have, but yeah, I think Rowing and 2315 01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:13.800 Daniel Bryan come away with a win here. 2316 01:58:14.920 --> 01:58:16.960 Yeah, I really have nothing more to add to this. 2317 01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:19.399 I mean, I think it'll be an entertaining match. I 2318 01:58:19.439 --> 01:58:22.439 think it'll be you know, physical, It'll be just a 2319 01:58:22.600 --> 01:58:27.880 very I think smooth logical ends with even if it's 2320 01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:31.239 by hook or crook, Daniel Brian just does something underhanded. 2321 01:58:31.279 --> 01:58:33.760 I mean, I'm fine with it. I don't care how 2322 01:58:33.960 --> 01:58:36.560 Daniel Brian and Rowan retain. They just need to retain. 2323 01:58:37.359 --> 01:58:40.479 Just end of subject. Uh, New Day and Kevin New 2324 01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:46.880 Day versus Kevin Owens and Sammy Zay your thoughts, you. 2325 01:58:46.840 --> 01:58:52.159 Know, I wish that it was a harder pick that, honestly, 2326 01:58:52.359 --> 01:58:56.039 but as we've seen Kevin Owens and Sammy jam being 2327 01:58:56.159 --> 01:59:01.119 utilized lately, I'm gonna go with the New Day because 2328 01:59:01.399 --> 01:59:04.800 just like how much how buried Zaane and Owens have been. 2329 01:59:05.319 --> 01:59:08.279 But I could see Kevin Owens and Samise play out 2330 01:59:08.319 --> 01:59:11.560 the swerve here beating the New Day. But I just 2331 01:59:11.600 --> 01:59:14.079 feel like the New Day has taken such a bat 2332 01:59:14.119 --> 01:59:16.960 And by New Day, I mean obviously Biggie and Koha 2333 01:59:17.079 --> 01:59:20.159 and Xavier would. I feel like they've taken such a 2334 01:59:20.279 --> 01:59:24.840 back seat to Kofe's title reign that they've almost been 2335 01:59:24.880 --> 01:59:28.399 an afterthought and they they need this win. But then 2336 01:59:28.479 --> 01:59:30.560 you could also say, on the other hand that Kevin 2337 01:59:30.560 --> 01:59:31.960 Owens and Sammy se need the win. 2338 01:59:32.079 --> 01:59:34.119 But I think with all of a sudden done that 2339 01:59:34.479 --> 01:59:35.319 the New Days go. 2340 01:59:35.359 --> 01:59:37.680 Out with the win here just solely based on how 2341 01:59:38.119 --> 01:59:39.960 Zaane and Owens have been booked recently. 2342 01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:45.720 You're you're right. I just I'm trying to talk myself 2343 01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:49.439 into Kevin Owens and Samu's a winning I'm trying to 2344 01:59:49.439 --> 01:59:51.960 come up with a reason and trying to convince myself 2345 01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:55.479 to pick them. I just can't. I can't pick them 2346 01:59:55.880 --> 01:59:58.119 for the fact that they haven't won a match since 2347 01:59:58.159 --> 02:00:01.880 they came back. And yeah that Vince McMahon could this 2348 02:00:01.880 --> 02:00:04.000 could be another one of the swerves that all people 2349 02:00:04.319 --> 02:00:06.439 think that New Day is just gonna win and Kevin 2350 02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:09.199 and Sammy are gonna lose because they've continue to lose. 2351 02:00:10.119 --> 02:00:11.920 I don't think this is a swerve because there's no 2352 02:00:11.960 --> 02:00:13.720 reason to do the swerve in this case. There's no 2353 02:00:13.840 --> 02:00:18.199 championship on the line. Clearly Vince does not think very 2354 02:00:18.319 --> 02:00:22.239 highly of either Kevin or Sammy as long term single 2355 02:00:22.399 --> 02:00:27.000 stars in WWE. So I think New Day wins and 2356 02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:30.960 Xavier and Biggie come out on top. Will I be 2357 02:00:31.119 --> 02:00:34.800 absolutely stunned if Kevin and Sammy win. No, I won't 2358 02:00:35.119 --> 02:00:38.199 because they honestly need the wins more than anybody on 2359 02:00:38.239 --> 02:00:41.359 the roster. But at the same time, look at the 2360 02:00:41.359 --> 02:00:44.800 track record they do. Their track record is awful. It's 2361 02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:48.079 it's abysmal. So I'm gonna go with the New Day 2362 02:00:48.640 --> 02:00:51.720 and it's sad, but that's my pick. 2363 02:00:52.600 --> 02:00:56.000 Yeah, and it feels like we're both kind of getting 2364 02:00:56.000 --> 02:00:59.680 depressed here. But yeah, you want it to be more 2365 02:00:59.800 --> 02:01:03.039 of like a hard pick. You want to have trouble 2366 02:01:03.079 --> 02:01:06.479 pick if this pick. But it also it isn't a 2367 02:01:06.520 --> 02:01:09.520 hard pick because you just know that Kevin Owens and 2368 02:01:09.520 --> 02:01:11.840 Semi Zeen are and Tiken seriously in the eyes of 2369 02:01:11.920 --> 02:01:14.640 Vince McMahon and I just it's. 2370 02:01:14.479 --> 02:01:15.680 Really sad to see. 2371 02:01:16.079 --> 02:01:18.720 But yeah, there's just no way that I could see 2372 02:01:18.760 --> 02:01:19.920 them coming out with a win here. 2373 02:01:21.840 --> 02:01:25.039 I can't. I really want to. I'm trying. I'm in 2374 02:01:25.119 --> 02:01:27.359 I do I sound depressed because I am, because I 2375 02:01:27.399 --> 02:01:29.800 can't believe that I'm not having a hard time with this. 2376 02:01:30.279 --> 02:01:32.319 I'm trying to come up with something in my brain, 2377 02:01:32.399 --> 02:01:37.239 but it's it's very depressing. So moving on Raw Tag 2378 02:01:37.239 --> 02:01:40.680 Team Championship, a Revival versus the USSOS, I think this 2379 02:01:40.720 --> 02:01:44.199 one's another one. This card up and down the line 2380 02:01:44.239 --> 02:01:47.079 looks very predictable and it looks like you can make 2381 02:01:47.119 --> 02:01:49.720 a case of no championships changing hands at all on 2382 02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:52.199 the entire card, and I think in general that will 2383 02:01:52.239 --> 02:01:55.159 be the case here, with the exception of the United 2384 02:01:55.159 --> 02:01:57.039 States Championship. Is don't go to dount on a limb. 2385 02:01:57.399 --> 02:02:00.920 But this Raw Tag Team Championship, see how the Revival 2386 02:02:00.960 --> 02:02:03.720 lose them to the USSOS. I just don't. I think 2387 02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:07.760 the Revival, with Shane McMahon behind him and the McMahon 2388 02:02:07.800 --> 02:02:11.039 power behind him and the stable that they're in, they 2389 02:02:11.079 --> 02:02:13.720 don't lose here. I think that the Revival and the 2390 02:02:13.760 --> 02:02:15.960 USO's are gonna have a very good match. This could 2391 02:02:15.960 --> 02:02:18.199 be a sleeper of a match that people are overlooking. 2392 02:02:18.800 --> 02:02:22.920 And again, if given the time, that's the key, they 2393 02:02:23.000 --> 02:02:25.359 could have a very very good match. You know, like 2394 02:02:25.399 --> 02:02:28.119 three and a half maybe even higher out of five stars. 2395 02:02:28.159 --> 02:02:30.239 They could have a hell of a match. I just 2396 02:02:30.279 --> 02:02:32.079 don't know if they'll be given the time and ultimately 2397 02:02:32.119 --> 02:02:34.199 the Revival comes out as champions. What do you think? 2398 02:02:34.479 --> 02:02:37.760 Yeah, I think Revival aging come out on top as well. 2399 02:02:38.079 --> 02:02:41.399 I think the USOS can survive the victory as opposed 2400 02:02:41.439 --> 02:02:44.279 to the Revival that although they are multi time tag 2401 02:02:44.279 --> 02:02:46.840 team champions, it seems like every time they have a 2402 02:02:46.920 --> 02:02:50.520 chance to defend the titles, they are unable to, whether 2403 02:02:50.600 --> 02:02:54.600 it be against Gable and Rude or Ryder and Hawkins. 2404 02:02:54.720 --> 02:02:57.159 I think like a big statement. 2405 02:02:56.760 --> 02:03:00.119 Win over arguably the best tag team in ww RE 2406 02:03:00.319 --> 02:03:03.039 right now is needed for them. I think it there 2407 02:03:03.079 --> 02:03:06.119 to drop the titles so soon after winning them, it 2408 02:03:06.119 --> 02:03:08.920 would almost like I wouldn't be able to take them seriously. 2409 02:03:09.279 --> 02:03:12.159 So I think this is a crucial opportunity for WWE 2410 02:03:12.600 --> 02:03:15.399 to allow the Revival to get a big impact win 2411 02:03:15.479 --> 02:03:18.399 against a team like the Users and show that they 2412 02:03:18.439 --> 02:03:21.199 are on that same level with them. So yeah, I 2413 02:03:21.239 --> 02:03:23.319 really think the Revival come out with the win here, 2414 02:03:23.359 --> 02:03:24.520 and they need the win here. 2415 02:03:26.520 --> 02:03:30.039 They do. And again, I'm not a hot potato title fan. 2416 02:03:30.279 --> 02:03:32.560 I don't like title changes for the sake of title 2417 02:03:32.640 --> 02:03:37.000 changes and oh it's newsworthy. I like long reigning champions 2418 02:03:37.000 --> 02:03:39.760 regardless of who's holding the belt, it means so much 2419 02:03:39.800 --> 02:03:42.840 more when the belts change hands. So in this case, 2420 02:03:42.840 --> 02:03:45.720 in this day and age, long term championship rains last 2421 02:03:45.880 --> 02:03:48.279 beyond a pay per view like unfortunately, that is the 2422 02:03:48.319 --> 02:03:52.800 scale and definition of what long term now means. But yeah, 2423 02:03:53.039 --> 02:03:55.359 revival retains. I think you can pretty much take that 2424 02:03:55.399 --> 02:03:57.920 one to the bank as well. And finally, the Cruiserweight 2425 02:03:58.000 --> 02:04:01.720 Championship with Tony Nice versus Drew Ghulac and a Characterzawa. 2426 02:04:02.520 --> 02:04:03.119 What do you think? 2427 02:04:05.199 --> 02:04:07.600 I basically Tony Nice. I like the way that they 2428 02:04:07.720 --> 02:04:08.319 built him. 2429 02:04:08.520 --> 02:04:11.199 I think that when he beat Buddy Murphy at WrestleMania, 2430 02:04:11.239 --> 02:04:13.760 who was a telltale sign that they were serious about him. 2431 02:04:14.640 --> 02:04:15.359 I'm with you. 2432 02:04:15.439 --> 02:04:18.079 I like the long title reigns here, So I think 2433 02:04:18.119 --> 02:04:20.680 they're gonna stick with Tony Niese here. They've built them well, 2434 02:04:20.720 --> 02:04:22.239 and I think they're gonna give him a bit more 2435 02:04:22.239 --> 02:04:23.520 time before he drops the belt. 2436 02:04:25.520 --> 02:04:28.359 Yeah. I don't have a strong feeling on this, to 2437 02:04:28.359 --> 02:04:30.199 be honest, because I don't have a lot of emotional 2438 02:04:30.199 --> 02:04:32.119 investment in this, and I don't think most people do. 2439 02:04:32.199 --> 02:04:35.279 I mean, however, two or five live they've been putting 2440 02:04:35.279 --> 02:04:38.439 out some good matches as of late. There was some 2441 02:04:38.520 --> 02:04:40.840 controversy in the finish of the Number one Contender fatal 2442 02:04:40.880 --> 02:04:44.640 four way match, so Gulac and Tazau got the opportunity. 2443 02:04:45.079 --> 02:04:50.640 I think Tony Nie retains because he seemed I think 2444 02:04:50.680 --> 02:04:53.680 he's got the most established character in the in the 2445 02:04:53.720 --> 02:04:57.119 cruiserweight division. He's a good champion. As you said, his 2446 02:04:57.199 --> 02:05:02.960 win at WrestleMania was a a statement made by WWE 2447 02:05:03.000 --> 02:05:05.720 to say, hey, we're changing. This is changing of the 2448 02:05:05.720 --> 02:05:09.159 guards here, so we're gonna go with Tony Nice. And 2449 02:05:09.199 --> 02:05:12.239 I think it's Tony Nice for probably the next few months. 2450 02:05:12.279 --> 02:05:14.600 I don't see any reason to take the championship off 2451 02:05:14.680 --> 02:05:17.159 him and just put him in matches, because you know, 2452 02:05:17.239 --> 02:05:19.880 he can have good matches and at the end of 2453 02:05:19.920 --> 02:05:21.880 the day though, he's gonna be the champion, and I 2454 02:05:21.920 --> 02:05:23.600 don't see anything different happening here. 2455 02:05:24.239 --> 02:05:27.159 Yeah, And you know, as you brought up, like it 2456 02:05:27.239 --> 02:05:29.119 was a change of the guard, and they gave the 2457 02:05:29.199 --> 02:05:32.399 reins to Tony Nies and just in the fashion that 2458 02:05:32.479 --> 02:05:34.640 the two challengers got put into the match, like the 2459 02:05:34.720 --> 02:05:38.159 controversial finish at the end of the Number one Contenders match. 2460 02:05:38.680 --> 02:05:41.680 I don't think that's the kind of, you know, storyline 2461 02:05:41.720 --> 02:05:46.079 that would calminate in Tony lose event actually losing the championship. 2462 02:05:46.439 --> 02:05:48.600 I think it'd be something of way more of like 2463 02:05:48.640 --> 02:05:51.920 an intense storyline, a one on one storyline for a 2464 02:05:51.960 --> 02:05:54.560 guy like Tony needs to drop the belt. So yeah, 2465 02:05:54.640 --> 02:05:57.279 I think it's gonna be a good match. I think 2466 02:05:57.319 --> 02:05:59.119 it's they're gonna all put on a good show. As 2467 02:05:59.119 --> 02:06:01.920 you mentioned, they've been a good product there lately. But 2468 02:06:02.000 --> 02:06:04.279 I don't think a guy like Tony Niese, after winning 2469 02:06:04.279 --> 02:06:07.159 such a big match against Buddy Murphy will lose it 2470 02:06:07.199 --> 02:06:08.239 in this kind of fashion. 2471 02:06:09.600 --> 02:06:12.800 No, I think it's totally right. I honestly don't have 2472 02:06:12.840 --> 02:06:14.920 a whole lot more to add to this. And it's 2473 02:06:14.920 --> 02:06:18.319 just a shame that they have really defined down the 2474 02:06:18.359 --> 02:06:24.079 cruiserweight division, you know. I just they ww can't seem 2475 02:06:24.119 --> 02:06:27.840 to find that perfect balance of being able to showcase 2476 02:06:27.880 --> 02:06:30.399 this division in a way that feels legitimate and not 2477 02:06:30.479 --> 02:06:33.039 just kind of the stepchild to well, this is the 2478 02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:35.359 main roster, and then we have this little, this little 2479 02:06:35.439 --> 02:06:38.600 side thing of the cruiserweight division. It just doesn't feel 2480 02:06:38.640 --> 02:06:41.520 like it's as important, at least the way they present 2481 02:06:41.600 --> 02:06:44.560 it on air as it should, and that's the problem 2482 02:06:44.560 --> 02:06:45.119 that I have. 2483 02:06:46.159 --> 02:06:49.119 Yeah, and because again I know I always keep bringing 2484 02:06:49.199 --> 02:06:51.640 back up, but I remember how it was in the 2485 02:06:51.720 --> 02:06:55.359 Ruthless Aggression era and how they weren't kind of just 2486 02:06:55.439 --> 02:06:59.840 segregated into their own TV show, and the cruiser weights 2487 02:06:59.840 --> 02:07:02.720 could also be taken seriously, like look at Raymond Sierra 2488 02:07:02.840 --> 02:07:06.000 Eastern as the cruiserweight. I remember the days of Tyjierry 2489 02:07:06.119 --> 02:07:08.680 being a cruisewight and all these guys who were just 2490 02:07:08.720 --> 02:07:12.319 taken more seriously because they could sometimes compete with guys 2491 02:07:12.359 --> 02:07:13.239 on the main roster. 2492 02:07:13.760 --> 02:07:15.479 So I have had a bit of a. 2493 02:07:15.439 --> 02:07:19.840 Hard time taking the cruiserweights seriously because even how they 2494 02:07:19.880 --> 02:07:22.359 treat the Cruiser Eights when they jump up to RAW, 2495 02:07:22.479 --> 02:07:23.199 like it's. 2496 02:07:23.039 --> 02:07:25.359 Almost like they're graduating to the big show. 2497 02:07:25.439 --> 02:07:29.119 So I'm almost like, oh, okay, so is this like 2498 02:07:29.279 --> 02:07:32.640 kind of on the par with NXT. Because when Cedric 2499 02:07:32.640 --> 02:07:36.560 Alexander jumped from two to five Live to RAW, I 2500 02:07:36.720 --> 02:07:39.079 was at the two O five Live there in Montreal 2501 02:07:39.359 --> 02:07:40.920 on his final show, and it was almost like he 2502 02:07:40.960 --> 02:07:42.920 was saying goodbye, he was moving on to bigger and 2503 02:07:42.960 --> 02:07:45.720 better things. So on that respect, I've always kind of 2504 02:07:45.720 --> 02:07:50.079 had a hard time getting emotionally invested into the new 2505 02:07:50.239 --> 02:07:51.800 version of the Cruiserweight division. 2506 02:07:53.399 --> 02:07:55.920 WWE is just not doing what they should be to 2507 02:07:55.960 --> 02:07:58.399 get people to care, because they probably think people don't care. 2508 02:07:58.720 --> 02:08:01.039 But the ironic thing is that people don't care because 2509 02:08:01.439 --> 02:08:03.239 they are showing us they don't care, So how are 2510 02:08:03.239 --> 02:08:06.359 we supposed to care? It's this vicious circle. And I 2511 02:08:06.479 --> 02:08:09.199 just they aren't showing the respect that they should be 2512 02:08:09.279 --> 02:08:12.319 for these athletes that are putting on matches that are 2513 02:08:12.319 --> 02:08:15.359 going overlooked by the majority of fans because WWU is 2514 02:08:15.399 --> 02:08:17.840 not presenting them as as big of a deal as 2515 02:08:17.840 --> 02:08:21.159 they should be, so fans aren't tuning in. And and again, 2516 02:08:21.199 --> 02:08:24.000 it's just like this self fulfilling prophecy of c These 2517 02:08:24.000 --> 02:08:26.600 people aren't paying attention. They don't care. Well, we don't 2518 02:08:26.640 --> 02:08:28.279 care because you're telling us you don't care, So how 2519 02:08:28.319 --> 02:08:30.800 are we supposed to It's just this this, and I 2520 02:08:30.800 --> 02:08:33.239 really believe that that's the psychology going on behind the scenes, 2521 02:08:33.279 --> 02:08:35.960 And it's just it's a shame because of the fact 2522 02:08:36.039 --> 02:08:40.600 of how good some of these guys are. So antony 2523 02:08:40.720 --> 02:08:43.640 anything else that we didn't touch on that you wanted 2524 02:08:43.640 --> 02:08:45.159 to discuss. 2525 02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:47.560 No, I think we covered everything up the bottom, the 2526 02:08:47.920 --> 02:08:50.000 We really touched on all bases this week. 2527 02:08:50.079 --> 02:08:50.840 I find. 2528 02:08:52.479 --> 02:08:55.039 We did. We did, and it's easy. It's crazy how 2529 02:08:55.079 --> 02:08:57.960 fast two hours can go when you're talking wrestling. It's 2530 02:08:58.000 --> 02:08:59.720 it's amazing, Like I'm looking at them like, oh, it's 2531 02:08:59.720 --> 02:09:01.880 probably been an hour, right, No, No, it's been two hours. 2532 02:09:02.600 --> 02:09:06.000 So it's just that's what professional wrestling does. And I'm 2533 02:09:06.000 --> 02:09:08.680 not complaining because that's that's what we love to talk about. 2534 02:09:08.720 --> 02:09:11.560 And it's always great to be able to bring people 2535 02:09:11.600 --> 02:09:13.039 on the show that are so much fun to talk to, 2536 02:09:13.159 --> 02:09:15.640 and it's great to have you here as a co host. 2537 02:09:15.760 --> 02:09:18.920 So but before we let you go, let everyone know 2538 02:09:18.960 --> 02:09:21.199 where they can follow you as an official co host now. 2539 02:09:21.399 --> 02:09:24.279 And you can follow me at aid to Marcus twenty five. 2540 02:09:24.439 --> 02:09:27.319 I'll put out this caution if you're gonna follow me, 2541 02:09:27.359 --> 02:09:30.279 I hope you like hockey because I'm all about that. 2542 02:09:30.359 --> 02:09:33.840 I'm sure you've seen that, Matt, especially with last month 2543 02:09:33.920 --> 02:09:34.079 or so. 2544 02:09:34.640 --> 02:09:35.720 I'm big into hockey. 2545 02:09:35.760 --> 02:09:38.279 But yeah, at a DeMarco's play five with my handle 2546 02:09:38.319 --> 02:09:40.199 and I just want to say thank you again Matt 2547 02:09:40.560 --> 02:09:43.199 for choosing me to be one of the permanent co hosts, 2548 02:09:43.199 --> 02:09:45.600 and thank you to everyone who wanted me to be 2549 02:09:45.640 --> 02:09:48.159 one of the permanent co host I expressed my a, 2550 02:09:48.600 --> 02:09:51.960 my absolute gratitude and it's my pleasure and I can't 2551 02:09:52.000 --> 02:09:54.920 wait to do it again in three weeks definitely. 2552 02:09:55.000 --> 02:09:57.319 I mean it's three weeks flies by. I know it 2553 02:09:57.319 --> 02:09:59.960 seems like a long time, but it'll it'll be here 2554 02:10:00.079 --> 02:10:03.119 sooner than you think. And yeah, if you like hockey, 2555 02:10:03.159 --> 02:10:05.600 it is a good follow I do say that, like 2556 02:10:05.640 --> 02:10:08.159 I am a casual hockey fan. I mean, being from 2557 02:10:08.199 --> 02:10:10.199 the United States, it's not as like rabbit as it 2558 02:10:10.239 --> 02:10:12.720 is in Canada. However, you know, once the playoffs come 2559 02:10:12.760 --> 02:10:15.920 around in NHL gets into the mix here like I do, 2560 02:10:16.239 --> 02:10:18.199 kind of pop in. So if you do like hockey, 2561 02:10:18.399 --> 02:10:21.399 it's a good follow. You should you should definitely do that. 2562 02:10:21.520 --> 02:10:24.760 And Anthony, it's been a pleasure and always good talking 2563 02:10:24.800 --> 02:10:27.880 with you, and we will definitely be in touch and 2564 02:10:28.079 --> 02:10:29.880 you'll be on the show sooner than you think. 2565 02:10:30.279 --> 02:10:32.279 All right, man, have a good night, and can't wait 2566 02:10:32.319 --> 02:10:33.600 to do it again in three weeks. 2567 02:10:34.079 --> 02:10:35.760 Definitely. Take care, Take care,