WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.320 I think that some of the answers, Lord, what is 2 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:15.720 my identity? What do I bring this ministry in terms 3 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:18.800 of vision? Because I've been following my dad. It's amazing 4 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:22.679 leadership for years. You're kind of if you're me, I 5 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:25.199 guess you're kind of in a soul search to determine 6 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:27.719 what your own identity is. 7 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:31.000 Let me just say the Rocky Balboa movie. You remember 8 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:34.799 the son approaches Rocky and takes him outside. He's like that, 9 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:36.200 you cast a big shadow. 10 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:37.640 You know what I mean? 11 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:41.600 Yes, yes, I can only imagine being in your position 12 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:44.439 and trying to find your own identity in your own path, 13 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:48.920 with such an amazing man standing in front of you. 14 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:51.320 You said it best. I mean, that's exactly it. I 15 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:56.719 forgot about the Balboa reference there, but you're right. Although 16 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.799 contrasting difference, I wasn't jealous or angry at my father 17 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:04.719 or angry that he cast at a big shadow. I 18 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:08.719 was always proud of my dad. Still am you know. 19 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:11.680 I've told my mom his books are going to be 20 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:14.640 like Kirk Cobain on steroids. His books are going to 21 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:16.480 be like Kirk Cobain on steroids. 22 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:20.359 His books are going to be like Kirk Cobain on steroids. 23 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:32.120 What is happening and what is up? 24 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:35.480 Sold out your glass because we're about to feel it up. 25 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:41.120 All things continually lead back to serpents, dragons, fairies, nepheline, 26 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.480 and fallen angels. In the distance looms a mystical mountains. 27 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:45.879 As Mi Kaiser used to say, if it's in the 28 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:48.519 Bible and it's weird, it's probably important. At its peak, 29 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:53.560 a great fire burns, concealing the Prometheus lens. 30 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:58.120 This development of this knowledge that's being talked about within 31 00:01:58.159 --> 00:01:58.879 the mystery. 32 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:01.760 Schools, an ancient artifact said to reveal the hidden truth 33 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:03.719 within a deliberately darkened world. 34 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:06.400 There is a hidden history that's been deliberately obscated from the. 35 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:09.319 People's little world. Join us as we travel and explore 36 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:13.840 the vast unknown. It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay, 37 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:18.479 damsels to save, and innumerable treasures to hoard. 38 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:25.400 Torches high the Smithsonian, they call wind of a giant's belt, 39 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:30.360 would send their agents out to get it. But it 40 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:34.719 takes courage to move forward, to move out. 41 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:40.599 Of the shadows, out of the unreality that we think of, 42 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:41.960 this reality. 43 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:46.039 We are all on the hero's journey. 44 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:52.439 Mankind has been in contact with and influenced by extra terrestrials. 45 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.000 Leave the sitient mound of bull feathers out of it, you. 46 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:00.240 Know, look at it from a different perspective, different. 47 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:12.439 Respective what is happening and what is up? Hold out 48 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:16.039 your glass because we are about to feel it. Welcome 49 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.360 to the Prometheus Lens Podcast, the place where the conversations 50 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:20.759 are always enlightening. 51 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:22.960 I'm your host, Justin and here we like. 52 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.960 To use the allegory of the Prometheus Lens to take 53 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.000 a second look at everything. 54 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:29.560 If you're new to the. 55 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.800 Channel, welcome to the Hero's Journey. Hit that like butt. 56 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:35.919 Hit that subscribe button. We have our socials coming down below. 57 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.319 Be sure to check those out on our various platforms 58 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:41.960 to be must appreciated. Well, today, guys, got to treat 59 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:45.759 for you someone that I just grew up as an 60 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:50.039 infant Christian, reading the books and watching the films. And 61 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:54.520 this is a man that honestly needs no introduction. But 62 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:58.240 he's a man with many hats. He's a director, he's 63 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:02.199 an author, he's a researcher, he's a public speaker. He's 64 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:05.319 done film directing, and he's now that the CEO of 65 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:09.000 the infamous SkyWatch TV. So we are very very blessed 66 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.199 today in honor to have Joe Horn on the show 67 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:12.960 with us. Joe, thank you so much for. 68 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:16.600 Your time, justin It's my pleasure to be here, my friend. 69 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:18.839 Thank you. 70 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:20.839 I greatly appreciate it. Uh. 71 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:23.800 For those that are not familiar with skywatching, you know, 72 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:25.800 if they've been living under a rock, you know, kind 73 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.399 of just give them an overview of who Joe Horney 74 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:30.920 is and what you guys do. 75 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:35.439 So my parents, in particular, my father, he started doctor 76 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:39.920 Thomas Horne. He was a multi time bestselling author and 77 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:45.399 a giant, massive titan of Bible prophecy for many, many decades. 78 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.800 If you've ever researched topics like you know, Aliens through 79 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:54.360 the lens of the Biblical worldview, the Nephelum, you know, Enoch, 80 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.720 the Book of Enoch, E'sekiel's Wheel, anything having to do 81 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.519 with the Book of Revelation or Bible prophecy, you're probably 82 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:05.480 going to stumble across doctor Thomas Horne. And he got 83 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:09.079 it in his head over a decade ago that there 84 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:14.800 wasn't a television platform that would consistently handle the materials 85 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:17.480 that was being written in his books. Does that make 86 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.839 sense because he's taking on subjects like I just mentioned, 87 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:22.839 and he found that a lot of these platforms would 88 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:26.759 kind of pass and he wanted his books out there. 89 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.240 He wanted his message out there. He felt like God 90 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.279 had given him something to say, and he felt like 91 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.800 the church and a lot of popular television outlets radio 92 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:38.639 outlets just weren't dealing with the subject material. Now, ironically, 93 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:43.120 at the same time, all throughout the nineties, early two thousands, 94 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:47.120 way into the twenty teens, he is now on secular 95 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:51.079 radio broadcasts. These are the people that will take his 96 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.839 message and he never had any problems with it at all. 97 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:58.199 He'd have Christians that were unwilling to take the interviews 98 00:05:58.240 --> 00:05:59.879 on because they don't want to deal with his book, 99 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.680 also throwing rocks at him, saying why are you talking 100 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:05.879 to those people? They're not Christians, and he would be like, 101 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:12.560 here's your sign, bingo, right. These are exactly the people 102 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.639 that he wanted to persuade. These are exactly the people 103 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.000 that he wanted to talk to. So he would be 104 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:20.639 on coast to coast am talking to a quarter of 105 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:23.480 a billion people while the church is ignoring his book. 106 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:25.800 Does that make sense? And these are people that have 107 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:30.600 an interest in the afterlife. Are ghosts real? Are aliens real? 108 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:35.759 Are they Biblical demons? Are they entities that some benevolent 109 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:40.120 creator manufactured and then pumped out into a universe that 110 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:44.560 we have no idea about. Right, the same thing with 111 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:48.600 the Book of Revelation, or just people's fascination with the 112 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:53.360 occult or supernaturalism. And maybe some of these people are 113 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.600 disenfranchised from the church because they've talked to their pastors 114 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.959 about some of this and they've gotten Two really common 115 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:04.399 responses from most of the entertainment based church today are, first, 116 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:08.920 why are you fascinated with the obscure? You tend to 117 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:12.160 be a bit fringe. That alarms me. You should get 118 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.040 back to the basics of you know, biblical teaching and living, 119 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.759 et cetera. Not that there's anything wrong with the basics 120 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:23.319 of biblical training or lifestyle, but it's the unwillingness to 121 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:26.199 deal with difficult questions. And then the second part of 122 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:27.959 it is you would find out that a lot of 123 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:31.120 pastors are not inherently interested in therefore they don't know 124 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.480 a lot about things like Bible prophecy, or the occult 125 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:39.879 or supernaturalism or my grandmother passed away a year ago, 126 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:42.040 and I think she's talking to me at night. Is 127 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:45.360 that biblical? Can that be happening? You know what I'm saying. 128 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:50.519 And you know, the story just goes on and on 129 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:51.920 and on and on and on and on and on. 130 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:54.120 I could tell stories all day about my dad and 131 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:55.720 some of the stuff that he did when he was 132 00:07:55.720 --> 00:08:01.759 doing exorcistic work, and some of the supernatural warfare that 133 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:04.680 he experienced as a young pastor, and then all throughout 134 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:06.879 his career. But the bottom line, has you asked me 135 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:11.439 about SkyWatch TV, I'm giving you the shortest answer possible, 136 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.240 but with enough context to explain what SkyWatch TV was 137 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.120 in its origin and what it continues to be today. 138 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.920 Was a response to the lack of willingness from major 139 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:27.480 news outlets and the organized church slash entertainment based Christian 140 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:33.279 television programming to deal with these issues. And so roughly 141 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.399 twenty twelve, he starts talking to me, and he was 142 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.759 always ahead of schedule. He had for years been saying, no, 143 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:45.080 trust me, son, Someday TV isn't going to be like today. 144 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:47.320 You're not going to buy a cable subscription and then 145 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.120 a satellite's going to drop four hundred channels for one 146 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.240 hundred bucks a month. He said, it's all going to TV. 147 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:56.919 It's all going to be streaming. This was before podcasts 148 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:00.519 really erupted. We're talking in the early two thousands and 149 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.799 he's telling me, someday the internet is going to be uh, 150 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.919 you know, your your access to television. And then he 151 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:10.639 started describing smart TVs before we even you know, you're 152 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:13.399 still you're still dealing with you know that what we 153 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.360 used to call a boob tube. The biggest TV you 154 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.279 could buy and take home, just short of one of 155 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:21.559 those mirror reflector televisions that was you know, four feet 156 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.000 by three feet or what have you, was about a 157 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:27.360 thirty six inch and it would take three guys to 158 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.639 lift this behemoth, you know, into a vehicle if you 159 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:32.960 had to move people. Remember those who were heavy man, 160 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:33.679 really dense. 161 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:35.440 He had half that wide. 162 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:37.639 Yeah, yeah, they were really heavy. But he said, no, 163 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:40.159 trust me, someday you're just going to turn your TV on. 164 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:42.320 You're not going to have a satellite box. There's not 165 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:45.519 going to be an extra cable subscription sitting there next 166 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:47.200 to the thing. He's like, You're just going to turn 167 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:50.200 the TV on and have full access to everything, and 168 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:53.080 he said, not only is it the future, but it's 169 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:55.600 going to give rise to a lot of us that 170 00:09:55.759 --> 00:10:01.159 can't get mainstream access a platform to create our own programming. 171 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:04.440 So by the time we hit about twenty twelve ish, 172 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.639 he is now talking to us as a family about 173 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:12.399 SkyWatch TV. And now he feels like God is really 174 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:15.000 giving him this vision for what is going to become 175 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:17.960 what exists today. Now, I'll give you an interesting unless 176 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:20.559 you're bored to death with this explanation, I'll give you 177 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.200 an interesting tidbit that I've not talked about much. So 178 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:27.559 this is just for you, justin Are you ready, I'm ready. 179 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:29.360 I promise you this is going to blow your mind. 180 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:31.200 I'm holding on. 181 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:36.720 Buckle up man. He's talking about the launch of SkyWatch TV. 182 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.399 I am working with his ministry out of a sense 183 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.399 of commitment to my parents, not obligation, but commitment to 184 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:49.080 help them with their dreams. But what I'm really doing 185 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.759 is I'm a dog trainer. And people can fact check this. 186 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:53.759 They can go back to twenty fourteen. I've got a 187 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.720 dog training DVD out. I'm like one hundred pounds heavier 188 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.600 than I am. Now, I'm not aware that my health 189 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:03.440 is about to completely implode. But I'm training dogs and 190 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:06.840 I and it's what I want. This is what I want. 191 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:09.840 I want to be an animal behavior expert. I've done 192 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:12.799 a lot of reading, the schooling, and I'm deeply immersed 193 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:16.519 in dog training and I'm taking on clients that have 194 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:20.840 If you've ever seen the TV show The Dog Whisperer, 195 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.960 so don't go watch that and think that Caesar Milan 196 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:28.279 and I are identical in both personality and approach to 197 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:30.759 training dogs. But if you see that show and you've 198 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:33.000 seen it, then it's the closest thing I can hand 199 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:36.120 to somebody and say generally, I did a lot of 200 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:40.480 what you see there in terms of accomplishing intervention for 201 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:43.720 dogs that are biters or about to be euthanized. I 202 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.279 had a big heart for the dogs that were misunderstood. 203 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:48.960 And you find out that most of these dogs that 204 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:53.720 are biters or being labeled as aggressive are misunderstood there, 205 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:57.279 and it's actually a people person problem. It's an owner. 206 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:02.759 It's an owner problem. I don't like the word owner. 207 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:04.639 I prefer. 208 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:08.679 Caretaker. 209 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:12.960 Yeah, caretaker steward. Sorry, that was the word I was jobbing. 210 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.320 We're stewards of responsibility. When God has blessed us with 211 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:20.159 pets and animals, they're like family members and we shouldn't 212 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:27.600 think of ourselves as owners. More custodiums. We have dominion 213 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.440 over them. It's up to us to make sure that 214 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:34.159 their care is provided and leadership when necessary. But I 215 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.279 tend to stay away from harsh corrections or the idea 216 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:40.000 that we're the owners. But that's just a Joe Horn 217 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:44.879 personal thing. So I've got this businessman, Darren Papa's who 218 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:49.639 was the Branson dog whisperer, handed me his entire rollo 219 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:53.399 decks when he moved from Branson, Missouri to California. He said, 220 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:56.320 here are all of my clients. You're the only one 221 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.960 that I trust to take over these long standing client 222 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.399 that I've been working with, and so I'm deeply immersed 223 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.080 in this. Now here's the part I promised you you 224 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.399 needed to buckle up for you ready, I was actually 225 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:13.559 encouraging my dad not to launch SkyWatch TV. 226 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:15.320 Oh wow. 227 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:20.039 And if you understand in context why I took that position, 228 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.159 as he was dreaming about what he wanted to do 229 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.639 and why he was launching it, it makes some sense. 230 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:28.080 He had been talking for a few years about the 231 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.639 need to retire to get my mom set up should 232 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:34.799 something happen to him, He said, I never want her 233 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:39.120 to get stuck groveling for bad wages. 234 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:40.720 I don't. 235 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:43.120 It breaks my heart in advance, this idea that she 236 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:45.440 would be without a nest egg or something to sit 237 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:47.240 on so she could land on her feet. I don't 238 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:49.559 want it to become you kids talking about me and 239 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:51.960 my siblings. He's like, I don't want it to become 240 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:57.519 your responsibility to now scramble, how to you know, advocate 241 00:13:57.559 --> 00:13:59.879 for our estates or anything else. He wanted to make 242 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.960 sure she was taken care of and that us kids 243 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:07.399 were free to live our own lives. And so I said, Dad, 244 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:10.799 this whole SkyWatch TV thing kind of fights against, at 245 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:13.840 least in my view, exactly what you've been articulating, the 246 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.480 need here for you as a man to accomplish this. 247 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.759 I said some things that are so funny. I'm going 248 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:21.360 to tell you what I said, and then I'm going 249 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:23.440 to tell you what happened, and then you'll see how 250 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:27.039 God has a serious sense of humor. I said, Dad, 251 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:29.720 if you do this thing with SkyWatch TV, you're going 252 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:33.639 to end up with fifty employees. You're going to be 253 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.519 operating out of a retired Walmart building somewhere, a massive 254 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:40.120 giant building. You're going to need to warehouse books and 255 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:43.399 products and employees and offices. And I said, And the 256 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:45.360 third part of it was, I said, your cell phone 257 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:47.519 is going to ring off the hook night and day, 258 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:50.879 night and day. There will be no escape. So that 259 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:54.279 doesn't sound like a retirement plan to me. That sounds 260 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:57.840 like you at your age is getting ready to jump 261 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:00.759 off the edge of the pirates plan into the great 262 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:06.360 grand unknown like this, this is probably not you know, 263 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:09.600 he had he had had some success as a writer, 264 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:11.720 and I felt that he was really risking some of 265 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:14.879 that revenue that he had created to leave my mom 266 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:20.440 with this massive expense of building a TV studio and everything, right, 267 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.639 because he was self funding all of this. This was 268 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:25.320 way before we were asked re viewers to partner with 269 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:27.679 us and stuff. Does this make sense? 270 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:28.320 Oh? 271 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:33.360 Yeah, so it's possible. I've told this story, but never 272 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:36.120 in this kind of detail from memory. I've never gone 273 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:37.960 into this kind of detail. So you'll have to tell 274 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:39.679 me when you're done with it, Like if I talk 275 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:44.480 too much about these details. Oh, I'm just telling you 276 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:47.639 that the origins of SkyWatch and the Sun that now 277 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.320 is the CEO is telling him, don't do this thing. 278 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:50.639 Dad. 279 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:55.919 I was seriously concerned about it. Here's the part that 280 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:59.440 I think affords us a minute to laugh and remark 281 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:03.039 about the irony and maybe some bit of humor on 282 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:07.000 the behalf of our father. God. Those things have happened, 283 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:12.840 but it wasn't my dad who would ultimately end up 284 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:16.159 being in the positions that I articulated. So we didn't 285 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:19.879 get a Walmart building. But as God is my witness, 286 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:25.279 he finds this retired grocery store, this massive grocery store, 287 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:29.039 the identity of which I will leave ambiguous, so we 288 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:31.639 don't have people trying to find the location of the 289 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:35.320 building and all that. But it's a retired grocery store. 290 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:39.360 We did end up with fifty employees and sometimes more 291 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:42.600 during seasonal help during the summer, et cetera, et cetera. 292 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.320 And my cell phone does ring off the hook constantly 293 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:51.679 without reprieve. Yeah, but I didn't realize as I was 294 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:53.559 telling my dad all of this stuff was going to 295 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:58.240 be his reality that would be ultimately mine. But I'm 296 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:01.799 not I'm not depressed about it. I'm not jaded. I'm 297 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:06.200 not upset about it. God had from twenty fourteen to 298 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:09.640 present day, during the whole exodus from Dolle, no longer 299 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:14.200 actively training dogs or in a career that involves animal behavior. 300 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:21.039 I was at one time what my good friend Debbie 301 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:26.319 Short kind of spoke over me. We were on the 302 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:28.799 phone one day and she said, Joe, as I was 303 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:31.599 grappling with this whole dog training shift, and I feel 304 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:35.319 I don't have a release to leave SkyWatch. I'm kind 305 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:39.400 of asking God for it quite a lot, because I 306 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:42.759 really wanted this other career path. And I'm telling you, 307 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:45.440 I had my parents do your thing. Man, we want 308 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:47.799 you to be happy. Dream your dream, what's your calling? 309 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:50.640 Get together with God, you sort out what you need 310 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:53.759 to do. They were never They were never these parents 311 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:58.279 who told me, son, you just can't leave us like this. 312 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.480 I were counting on you. It was never like that. 313 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:05.240 It was never a head trip. My dad just totally 314 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:07.240 believed that God would take care of the needs of 315 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.079 whatever ministry. Go live your life man, whatever that looks 316 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:16.680 like greatest parents of all time. But I then would 317 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:18.839 get together with God and I, no matter how hard 318 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:23.240 I rationalized the want to move toward this dog training 319 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:26.039 career and really embrace that fully because this other thing 320 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:28.119 was kind of me just helping my parents with something 321 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:32.079 that sounded important to my dad. I didn't have a release, 322 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:36.440 and it was one that I wanted big time, and 323 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:38.759 I felt for a couple of years there as I 324 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:43.880 was doing both full time, it was tearing me apart emotionally. 325 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:47.400 My dreanals were shot. I'm trying to run Monday through Friday. 326 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:50.559 The dog training business had now become weekends too because 327 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:53.319 I couldn't get to all the clients, and sometimes weeknights. 328 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.559 And this is all while I'm trying to help produce 329 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.640 TV for my father, who had now launched SkyWatch TV 330 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:06.519 and syndicate satellite television networks all over the world. And 331 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.680 my good friend Debbie Short says, Joe, you remind me 332 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:14.200 of a marlin. And I said, what do you mean 333 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:18.200 by that? And she says, now these are her words. 334 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:22.119 I don't think of myself as some prize, but she said, 335 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:24.559 I view you as a marlin. I said, what do 336 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:26.480 you mean by that? And she said, when fishermen go 337 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.440 out one of the most prized fish that they catch 338 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:32.240 and then trophy and put on the wall and display, etc. 339 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.359 They have to fight long and hard for those they're 340 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:39.480 not an easy catch. It's one of the reasons they're 341 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:43.480 so savored and cherished and celebrated when fishermen have large 342 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:45.279 ones that they can pin on the wall, et cetera. 343 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:50.039 But they're a costly battle. Sometimes they're difficult to find. 344 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:54.400 They're exhausting, multiple hours of fighting back and forth with 345 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:57.519 the tension on the line, and she said, she said, 346 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:00.000 I think of your I think of you as a marlin. 347 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:04.519 God's been trying to wear you down. He's been trying 348 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:07.319 to get you to see the obvious solution to the 349 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.480 answer to your prayer, and you're fighting him, right, no way, Lord, 350 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:14.680 I just but what I want is over there, and 351 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:17.200 what I feel you're calling me towards this thing I 352 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:21.200 don't want is over here because I really want that, right, 353 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:24.519 So Lord, the things I want the desires of my heart, right, 354 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:28.519 you know how you rationalize things. But really, if I 355 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:30.880 were being honest, I just felt like I needed to surrender. 356 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:36.960 So ultimately I did roughly around twenty fifteen sixteen. 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