Speaker 1: Okay, hello, welcome everyone to unbelievably our fifth behind the
Speaker 1: scenes special. I'm j Michael Dangelis, co creator, co executive producer,
Speaker 1: co writer and co director, but sole marketing manager of
Speaker 1: mission rejected.
Speaker 2: Thank god, you don't want me messing around with.
Speaker 1: That marketing now, Good God, I truly don't. And I'm
Speaker 1: joined today by my two partners in the porch room.
Speaker 1: I've got Pete Barry, Hello, universe, and I've got John P. Dalgan.
Speaker 3: Greetings, all, greetings, all this fine, sunny warm where I
Speaker 3: am Spring Friday.
Speaker 1: And of course, also a core part of the writing
Speaker 1: and creative team is Paige Klinecki. We'll be hearing from her,
Speaker 1: as well as a whole bunch of our cast members
Speaker 1: later on in the show. So, after five years of
Speaker 1: doing well, after four years of behind the scenes shows,
Speaker 1: we weren't quite sure what people wanted to know anymore.
Speaker 1: We had been interviewed, we had interviewed each other, we
Speaker 1: had the cast interview each other behind our backs, we
Speaker 1: had we interviewed other podcasters, and we were just not
Speaker 1: sure what we could talk about in this fifth year.
Speaker 1: So we threw it out to the audience. We put
Speaker 1: a poll out there. We asked our Patreon members, we
Speaker 1: put a poll out on our social media, put out
Speaker 1: a call for questions, and we got a lot of
Speaker 1: great questions from our fans. So today we're going to
Speaker 1: do our best to answer our fan questions. Well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna dive into some specific questions, but we also got
Speaker 1: some great questions for our cast, and they were kind
Speaker 1: enough to record their answers. So I'm gonna throw it
Speaker 1: over to our cast, who all have some thoughts about
Speaker 1: what their characters look like.
Speaker 4: Hey, everyone, this is Dave Stanger. I play Bowden Moncrief,
Speaker 4: and the first question I see is how do you
Speaker 4: view your own character physically. I think I might have
Speaker 4: mentioned something along this line in a previous behind the
Speaker 4: scenes episode, but I tend to picture him as sort
Speaker 4: of like this amalgamation of a couple different celebrities that
Speaker 4: I know, and the one that is foremost in my
Speaker 4: brain for Boden is Rob Low. You can google who
Speaker 4: he is if you're not sure, but he's definitely who
Speaker 4: I picture any time I'm trying to kind of get
Speaker 4: into character for Boden, and sometimes maybe a little bit
Speaker 4: of a younger Alec Baldwin and maybe to a lesser
Speaker 4: extent John Ham, but someone of their ilk. I think
Speaker 4: for Boden, someone I tend to picture some guy with
Speaker 4: dark hair, chiseled, looks kind of an aging pretty boy.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think Roblow would be a great touchstone
Speaker 4: if you're if you're wondering who I picture for Boden
Speaker 4: w And.
Speaker 5: So this is a really good question. I don't think
Speaker 5: I really have very clear pictures for any of the characters.
Speaker 6: In my head.
Speaker 5: And maybe that's because I don't Maybe that's because I
Speaker 5: don't think I have the most visual imagination. I think
Speaker 5: it's more conceptual. So the characters for me are are
Speaker 5: kind of like in dreams, when you have like a general,
Speaker 5: wiggly outline of a person with general features emerging, but
Speaker 5: they're not like fully formed. And I think Glory is
Speaker 5: even harder for me to picture than any of the
Speaker 5: other characters, because I don't really see myself as Gloria,
Speaker 5: Like in my head, she's just a fully separate person
Speaker 5: from me. She has different dreams and different fears and
Speaker 5: different tendencies, and I'm just playing her. But at the
Speaker 5: same time, it's also weird to think of my voice
Speaker 5: coming out of someone who looks very different from me,
Speaker 5: so it's just hard to picture.
Speaker 6: And I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's a cop out, but I don't think I
Speaker 5: have a clear answer. But that's why I really love
Speaker 5: seeing the fan art so much. I really love seeing
Speaker 5: how all the fans and how you all see her
Speaker 5: and bring her to life, because that really helps me
Speaker 5: fill in these gaps that I have in my imagination,
Speaker 5: and it's fun to just see all the very different
Speaker 5: versions of her that come out.
Speaker 7: Wow, this is Faith Dowgin and I play Zelda Anders.
Speaker 7: These are really fun questions. So the first one from
Speaker 7: Jace from the Philippines is how do you view your
Speaker 7: own character physically? I think i'd have to say that
Speaker 7: Zelda is definitely taller than I am, because I am
Speaker 7: only five two and I have always wanted to be taller.
Speaker 7: But she's not super tall, maybe five six, a nice
Speaker 7: average girl height. And she's fit because even though she
Speaker 7: hates going to the gym, she hates pilates, she hates cardio,
Speaker 7: she knows that she probably will be in some sort
Speaker 7: of situation where she should probably be strong and tough.
Speaker 7: She does love kickboxing. Zelda's a big fan of kickboxing.
Speaker 7: And she wears amazing clothes like Calvin Klein and basically
Speaker 7: Calvin Klein. Basically her entire wardrobe is Calvin Klein because
Speaker 7: it's always in fashion, it's comfortable, it's practical and yeah shoes,
Speaker 7: oh shoes. So she wears converse a lot and practical shoes.
Speaker 7: Zelda's a practical goal.
Speaker 3: Wo.
Speaker 8: Hey, this is Bob Killian. I play the Admiral and
Speaker 8: a host of other characters Jase. For me, the Admiral
Speaker 8: is as big and as imposing in person as he
Speaker 8: is on the podcast in his voice. When I do
Speaker 8: the Admiral, I do a lot of hand gestures and
Speaker 8: moving around and a lot that just to throw myself
Speaker 8: around when doing the Admiral because I feel like the
Speaker 8: Admiral is so imposing physically in my mind. And so Yeah,
Speaker 8: which is really fun to play. I really enjoy it.
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure there's a picture on the Mission rejected
Speaker 8: website of me doing facial expressions or something with the Admiral.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 9: Hi everyone, this is Nozla and I am the voice
Speaker 9: of Mackenzie McGrath. So how do I view McGrath physically?
Speaker 9: I think McGrath is an enigma hard to figure out. Physically,
Speaker 9: I think she is surprisingly fit and strong and quick,
Speaker 9: even though she does absolutely nothing to train herself. Like
Speaker 9: train physically, she does nothing. I don't think she works out.
Speaker 9: Her workout is grabbing another bag of chips. But I
Speaker 9: don't think she ever has trouble as much as Skip
Speaker 9: does whenever there is an exercise wond So she's everything
Speaker 9: I wish I was. Basically, I think McGrath is genetically
Speaker 9: gifted that she doesn't need to lift a finger, but
Speaker 9: she's so strong.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 10: This is Chris klinecky. I you see him as pronouns
Speaker 10: and I play Skip Grainger, who also uses him as pronouns,
Speaker 10: And I'm very happy to be here answering some of
Speaker 10: the questions that we received for this special episode. Jason,
Speaker 10: That's a great question, really fair one too, especially since
Speaker 10: we exist in the audio world. Honestly, for me, I
Speaker 10: am so delighted and humbled every time I get to
Speaker 10: see one of our listeners who has some artistic flare
Speaker 10: do a rendition of any of our characters, including Skip.
Speaker 10: Every time I see a new Skip, I think this
Speaker 10: is fantastic when it comes to how I view my
Speaker 10: own characters. Skip Grainger physically. Honestly, at this point between
Speaker 10: seasons five and six, it's essentially the conceptual midpoint between
Speaker 10: the various iterations of Skip Granger that I've seen in
Speaker 10: the artwork getting from season one all the way through recently.
Speaker 10: I just kind of picture, you know, a hodgepodge if
Speaker 10: you will, of those sorts of features altogether. That just
Speaker 10: makes me smile. That being said, if there are any
Speaker 10: listeners out there listening to this particular episode who have
Speaker 10: some artistic flare and are thinking, I haven't seen a
Speaker 10: version of Skip that agrees with what I have in
Speaker 10: my head in terms of the image, this is of
Speaker 10: course not a request, not by any stretch of the bine.
Speaker 10: But if you're looking to change how I viewed Skip Granger,
Speaker 10: I would say, add your own take on Skip Granger
Speaker 10: to the mix and we'll go from there. Now, I'm
Speaker 10: not asking you to make pictures of Skip Granger.
Speaker 6: I promise.
Speaker 10: I just if you do, it will certainly be incorporated
Speaker 10: in my own sort of mental image of the character.
Speaker 10: That's a guarantee.
Speaker 6: And we're back.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you cast for those insightful answers. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be hearing again from them. Shortly. But let's uh, let's
Speaker 1: take a question for us. Uh So Wedge from Minneapolis
Speaker 1: asks us what's changed in production process or pipeline since
Speaker 1: between season one and season five?
Speaker 2: Well, a lot, we know we we we didn't know
Speaker 2: what the hell we were doing when we started, and
Speaker 2: if we had, frankly, would we have started this.
Speaker 3: No, And there are some lessons we still haven't learned.
Speaker 6: Like there there are a lot of There are some
Speaker 6: lessons I refuse.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of creators who we talk to
Speaker 3: who are just a guest that we do not have
Speaker 3: a complete season written before we before we start releasing episode.
Speaker 6: I was like, what, who's a guest at one? And
Speaker 6: everybody's a gas all the time, dismay.
Speaker 3: The other thing is the division of labor has changed
Speaker 3: quite a bit. Seasons one and two. Pete edited and
Speaker 3: mixed every episode, every every single and three.
Speaker 1: Three. Don't take it away from me, man, for sure,
Speaker 1: the season four you started sharing.
Speaker 3: Was season four. I could have sworn. I could have
Speaker 3: sworn the c I A at the CIA episode.
Speaker 6: In my memory, it's all good, You're right.
Speaker 3: That was season four. So yeah, so Pete, Pete edited
Speaker 3: and mixed all of the first three seasons, which was
Speaker 3: rapidly becoming.
Speaker 6: A completely that was fine, right, like, yeah, it was,
Speaker 6: it was, it was a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But but then John, uh, you know, stepped up really
Speaker 2: really well.
Speaker 11: Well.
Speaker 3: Season three was when I started, was when I started
Speaker 3: editing and mixing the Patreon bonuses to take off. That's
Speaker 3: what I was thinking, and after I had cut my
Speaker 3: teeth on Reaper doing that. Yes, the the c I
Speaker 3: A at the CIA episode was the the first one
Speaker 3: that I had that I mixed entirely on my own. Uh.
Speaker 3: And since then we've gone into an alternating mostly alternating
Speaker 3: Pete does one I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this year, I think you you gave me some
Speaker 2: some leeway to like grab a couple of episodes.
Speaker 6: I was, I do this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you if it's an episode that you
Speaker 3: wrote that was would normally have been me to edit,
Speaker 3: Like what was which one was it?
Speaker 2: I think I wonder so I'll have to think back
Speaker 2: on this, but I think five o nine might have
Speaker 2: been the first episode that I wrote and I'm like, okay, John,
Speaker 2: you can you can take us one.
Speaker 6: I put me wrong on that one though. There might
Speaker 6: be another one.
Speaker 3: But there was one that there was one that you
Speaker 3: wrote that you definitely edited to in a row because.
Speaker 2: There was one clear right five O nine I did.
Speaker 2: I did take five, which one was a different one.
Speaker 2: Five and nine was the Cornfield one.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, because you had the you had
Speaker 3: the idea for what the sounds of mission of the
Speaker 3: missile base, where.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to have to be to like
Speaker 2: burden you with creating a north By Northwest spoof where
Speaker 2: I was like, I know, I have some plugins that
Speaker 2: maybe it'll make this plane sound like it's coming yes,
Speaker 2: right at you, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, let's so uh. There's a huge change
Speaker 1: between season one and season five that we've not mentioned,
Speaker 1: which is every episode from the first episode through two
Speaker 1: O two was recorded in my apartment with the cast
Speaker 1: as many of the cast members together as possible, and
Speaker 1: then we would grab and even then, so like if
Speaker 1: if a Philadelphia based cast member couldn't come to the record,
Speaker 1: they would still come to my apartment to record at
Speaker 1: a later date. So if Dave couldn't come on a Sunday,
Speaker 1: he would come like the next Tuesday after work and
Speaker 1: do it. Or if actually had to miss one or whatever,
Speaker 1: we would get to get either and record at my apartment.
Speaker 2: Except for the few unlucky ones who recorded at your
Speaker 2: place of work, like poor Natty Leech who almost got
Speaker 2: arrested Hilarian fighting Zelda.
Speaker 6: A motor boat.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 6: And when that was reported, the response.
Speaker 1: Was no, no, that's just Michael and Natty. It's fine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then our guests would have to record
Speaker 1: in uh that. You know, that was a challenge, particularly
Speaker 1: when we you know, early on, because we would have
Speaker 1: you know, clean or at least equally uh equal, I
Speaker 1: was equally bad, but everybody sounded the same because we
Speaker 1: all recorded in the same place on the same kind
Speaker 1: of mice, and then we would have guess that maybe
Speaker 1: had much lower quality. So yeah, so everybody in the
Speaker 1: room would be of you know, sort of balanced because
Speaker 1: it was all in the same room and on the
Speaker 1: same kind of mics. But a guest coming in early on,
Speaker 1: some people were recording into their telephones and it was
Speaker 1: just it was very, very noticeable. So we learned, all right,
Speaker 1: we've got to be able to get if they don't
Speaker 1: have equipment, we've got to be able to bring them
Speaker 1: to my place or John's place, repeats place where we
Speaker 1: have equipment and then of course, and I remember I
Speaker 1: had all huge problem being like we I could hear
Speaker 1: the echo in your apartment.
Speaker 6: I was like, how do we get rid of this echo?
Speaker 2: And I won't go into the details of what I
Speaker 2: did when I came to records episode three and four,
Speaker 2: but I was like, can we stop the echo in
Speaker 2: the apartment?
Speaker 6: We learned to live with it. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know what, it's fine.
Speaker 1: Right, particularly on when like ninety nine percent of the
Speaker 1: cast had the same echo, right, so it was like
Speaker 1: they're all in the same place. But you know, then,
Speaker 1: as you know, I was sure everybody knows. Like we
Speaker 1: went to record, uh, the third episode of season two
Speaker 1: and the word pandemic was in the air, and only
Speaker 1: a handful of us got together to do that. One
Speaker 1: Swinefeld was Swinefeld. Yeah, so John you were there, Kayden
Speaker 1: was there, I think was Bob and Paige. Paige, who
Speaker 1: had already moved to la was back visiting and then
Speaker 1: got stuck on in Philadelphia because she couldn't travel back
Speaker 1: because of the pandemic for a long time. So we
Speaker 1: had to scramble to decide how to go on. Everyone
Speaker 1: had the will and desire to go on. So we
Speaker 1: shipped everybody microphones and we taught everyone how to use
Speaker 1: audacity or Reaper, and that's how we and then we
Speaker 1: all just got on. We would still get together and
Speaker 1: it's still the way it works. We get together on
Speaker 1: our discord channel, and we recorded as many people together
Speaker 1: as possible, even though everyone is in their own place.
Speaker 1: And there's a question about this later, so we'll put
Speaker 1: a pin and we'll come back to how how that
Speaker 1: process works. And it's a double edge it's a double
Speaker 1: edged sword. I think it's I think we absolutely do
Speaker 1: lose a little something. It's a little intangible something when
Speaker 1: you're all in the room together, right, It's just it's
Speaker 1: like John Saiswitz. You know almost everybody in the cast
Speaker 1: as a stage actor. They know how to play off
Speaker 1: each other and they do it well virtually, but something
Speaker 1: else happens in the room. You can see each other's faces,
Speaker 1: you get that energy that that can be very helpful. Now,
Speaker 1: this is not to say that it's just different. It's
Speaker 1: just different. It's not better or worse, it's just different.
Speaker 1: I miss seeing everyone. I miss the camaraderie.
Speaker 2: But once you move to the remote version, we have
Speaker 2: been able to incorporate a lot more like just have
Speaker 2: the mindset to incorporate people from all around the world.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, Oh for sure, people from England, people
Speaker 2: from you know, like we get people from all over
Speaker 2: to be on the show, and it is a little
Speaker 2: more standardized when everybody's talking into their USB Mike. Then
Speaker 2: it's like I got to balance the environment of Mike's
Speaker 2: apartment versus someone who recorded this in Ontario. Right, So
Speaker 2: there is like some you know, I would like to
Speaker 2: say that there is a positive that comes out of
Speaker 2: it that you're like, yeah, you sort of broaden your
Speaker 2: horizons in terms of what this recording process could be.
Speaker 6: And in certain cases you were.
Speaker 2: Like, well, the recording didn't come out quite as well
Speaker 2: as I would hope from this person across the country.
Speaker 2: But you either learn techniques to sort of overcome that
Speaker 2: or you start to realize, like I always strive to
Speaker 2: get the best possible audio into an episode, but there
Speaker 2: are a couple of times where you're just like, you
Speaker 2: just gotta thread the needle, and you know, and and
Speaker 2: and like you said, John, like sometimes you're like, there's
Speaker 2: a work around.
Speaker 6: This person's always on comms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we'll just do that more and dropping in.
Speaker 3: If you drop in a sufficiently loud background ambiance, that
Speaker 3: tends to as long as it's not drowning anybody out,
Speaker 3: it tends to cover a lot of Also, I have
Speaker 3: found audiences as long as it's not egregious, as long
Speaker 3: as you're not actively like having to change the volume
Speaker 3: of whatever you're listening it on every time a different
Speaker 3: character comes on, if it's audiences are very forgiving. I've
Speaker 3: noticed it with myself. Like some of the other shows
Speaker 3: that I listen to, they don't record in the same room,
Speaker 3: and you can tell. And like an episode of a
Speaker 3: show comes on and I'm listening and a new character
Speaker 3: shows up, I just go, oh, I bet that. I
Speaker 3: bet that actor was recording remotely or on their own
Speaker 3: one day. And then I think goes out of my
Speaker 3: mind and I go right back into the illusion of
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 1: There's no one way to do this, and uh, a
Speaker 1: lot of people we've talked before, there's different ways to
Speaker 1: do it too. Some people say just put it all
Speaker 1: on the actors and say, here's the script, give me
Speaker 1: three different versions of each line, and I'll pick other
Speaker 1: people get on and direct. So it's different and this
Speaker 1: is a nice dovetail because we've actually started to address
Speaker 1: this already. But here's our second question. Kim from Virginia
Speaker 1: aka Liz Lemon asks how does recording from different locations
Speaker 1: impact your process and what do you adjust?
Speaker 3: So I am going to try, I am going to
Speaker 3: try and stop and I do this at least once
Speaker 3: in every episode, and I'm going to try to stop
Speaker 3: writing lines that multiple characters say and sink at the
Speaker 3: same time. Thank god, man, No, no, no, that's always
Speaker 3: if the characters aren't if the actors aren't in the
Speaker 3: same room reading together. That never, that never.
Speaker 6: Works out, that trick never.
Speaker 3: So to Mike's point, yes, sometimes we put it all
Speaker 3: on the actors. Like you said, we give us, give
Speaker 3: us three, three readings of each line.
Speaker 6: David S.
Speaker 3: Deer is the best at that.
Speaker 6: David David S.
Speaker 3: Dere is absolutely an a is just a master.
Speaker 6: Of the three.
Speaker 3: The three because they're all completely different, they're all completely valid,
Speaker 3: and it's never more than three. It's never more than three.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you an amazing David S. Dear story. He
Speaker 1: because he featured so prominently in five point twelve. He right,
Speaker 1: he said, I'd love to I'd love to do it
Speaker 1: with you if you could direct me my pleasure. I
Speaker 1: love hanging out with David. So we got on and
Speaker 1: we did it, and we spent a long time, not
Speaker 1: an hour and a half, two hours, going through all
Speaker 1: five twelve and I gave him direction and suggestions, and
Speaker 1: then we got to the end and he went none
Speaker 1: of that recorded like he was. But he was like,
Speaker 1: no problem, I'm gonna let you go. I'm gonna reset
Speaker 1: up my recording. I remember your notes and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna do it just
Speaker 1: like we and he it was exactly like we did.
Speaker 3: Say I don't remember, I remember it. It was pretty
Speaker 3: traditional David.
Speaker 1: It was he just and he he and he knocked
Speaker 1: it out in about thirty minutes. He texted me, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's done because he just retained. But he's John absolutely pleasure.
Speaker 1: I can hear it in his voice.
Speaker 3: He is he is a Vulcan. I'm convinced David Astier
Speaker 3: is a Vulcan.
Speaker 6: What I've noticed in Pete.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've noticed this either, is David.
Speaker 3: You gotta obviously you listen to everybody's whole track before
Speaker 3: you pick the shoes. Yeah, David's David's best stuff can
Speaker 3: cut out anywhere. It could be the first read, it
Speaker 3: could be the second read, it.
Speaker 6: Could be the third read.
Speaker 3: Chris is almost always the third read.
Speaker 6: Oh, Nozla.
Speaker 3: Nozla is almost always the first read. Like it takes
Speaker 3: it takes Chris. It takes Chris to to read. Well,
Speaker 3: not if you're if you're directing them.
Speaker 6: If you're directing them, it's.
Speaker 3: Usually the last lead. But if they're recording on their own,
Speaker 3: it takes Chris two reads to get into it, and
Speaker 3: Nozla just nails it immediately and then overthinks it.
Speaker 2: No, And I'm serious, like I have definitely like had
Speaker 2: people that I'm directing and I'm like, do it exactly
Speaker 2: Like I can be a very exacting director.
Speaker 6: Sorry everyone, but.
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, okay, no, it's just like this. And
Speaker 2: then I get back to the thing and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: God damn, I was.
Speaker 6: Wrong the first one. No, I screwed them up entirely.
Speaker 6: But yeah, just like yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: There's you know, I guess I'm trying to get back
Speaker 2: to the back to the question of just like what
Speaker 2: are the problems in general? Of like getting all the
Speaker 2: of all the voices to match. I you know, obviously
Speaker 2: levels are your first are your first basic issue, right,
Speaker 2: how does everybody sound? You can't you know some just
Speaker 2: trusting your own ears and not necessarily trusting the levels
Speaker 2: on your your thing, because sometimes people have qualitatively you know,
Speaker 2: if I was standing way back here and yell at
Speaker 2: the top of my lungs, that might not sound as
Speaker 2: loud as.
Speaker 6: I go right up in the cabra just start talking it.
Speaker 2: So like like there is a perceptual process that you
Speaker 2: have to do right, not just like make everything the
Speaker 2: exact same level, especially when you're doing drama. Right, if
Speaker 2: you're doing a podcast that's just an interview podcast, like
Speaker 2: I don't know this one, you're probably gonna want everybody
Speaker 2: to you know, you just sort of level them out.
Speaker 2: People tend to talk to each other at a at
Speaker 2: a single level. What so you can yeah, exactly just
Speaker 2: like that. But like I went to uh into Gordon
Speaker 2: cole terror there for a minute. But like the yeah,
Speaker 2: they're the best advice I ever got on that I
Speaker 2: ever read on recording was from someone quoting George Martin
Speaker 2: the uh not George R. R. Martin, but the Beatles
Speaker 2: who said, all you need is ears and that's it.
Speaker 2: You just have to listen very carefully to everything and
Speaker 2: be like and unfortunately in the day and age that
Speaker 2: we're in, like you got to kind of listen to
Speaker 2: it on different things, like listen to it in your
Speaker 2: car and on your you know, to make sure everything
Speaker 2: is like so let's sounding the same is where.
Speaker 3: Mixes go to die.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that for a second, because experience that
Speaker 1: and I have two thoughts about it. One it actually
Speaker 1: goes back to another change in the production process when
Speaker 1: we were all recording in person. Will have season one
Speaker 1: fans will remember a credit additional mixing additional live mixing
Speaker 1: by Karen Yang Karen doctor Lagrangiang. People will may may remember,
Speaker 1: but if they don't, Karen was my student assistant when
Speaker 1: she was a college student on my work podcast and
Speaker 1: when we started mission rejected, particularly because Pete you weren't
Speaker 1: available to come and do the first episode right, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't direct it and listen, so
Speaker 1: I need I need Karen, So I said, Karen, I
Speaker 1: would you know, I'd love to hire you on the
Speaker 1: side if you want to come and do this on
Speaker 1: the weekends once a month, and she was, you know,
Speaker 1: excited to do it, and so we always had Karen
Speaker 1: on headphones and she could be there to say to
Speaker 1: you or me, I don't know, Chris sounds too distant,
Speaker 1: or you know, that didn't sound quite right, the levels
Speaker 1: look off. That was so helpful, right, just to have
Speaker 1: a second pariers. It's something I struggle with when I'm
Speaker 1: directing over disc because of course, then you know we're
Speaker 1: hearing it all through which is not which is not
Speaker 1: what the recording is going to sound like. Discord is
Speaker 1: compressing it. There's a delay. So sometimes we get a
Speaker 1: recording and it's much softer than it sounded on Discord.
Speaker 1: It's much hotter, it's right. So that's a challenge, h
Speaker 1: for sure. But I had a second point. I wonder,
Speaker 1: I wonder what it was. Oh, just the whole idea
Speaker 1: of so when whenever Pete and John are working on
Speaker 1: an episode, they'll be close to final draft or they'll
Speaker 1: be a first listenable draft, right, and sometimes we can
Speaker 1: have three different reactions to it depending on So I'll
Speaker 1: be like, well, I listened on my really nice stereo
Speaker 1: speakers and it sounded great, and John be like I
Speaker 1: listened to my car and it sounded terrible, and Pete'll
Speaker 1: be like, I listened on my computer and it was okay.
Speaker 1: Or sometimes it'll be like, oh, I listened on my
Speaker 1: really nice stereo speakers and it pointed out all the flaws,
Speaker 1: or but I put it on my headphones and it
Speaker 1: sounded great. So let's I know it's not it's it's
Speaker 1: sort of a mystery, but like, how how do we
Speaker 1: try and adjust for that? Because our audience are all
Speaker 1: going to be listening on different things. A lot of
Speaker 1: people will be listening on headphones, a lot of people
Speaker 1: will be listening in their cars. Some people might put
Speaker 1: it on their stereo or their computer or their TV.
Speaker 1: It's like, how do we adjust for all of that?
Speaker 2: So do I optimize it for the car, which is
Speaker 2: where many people are gonna be listening, or optimize it
Speaker 2: across platform, or do I just keep it the way
Speaker 2: it is and be like, if you're listening on headphones,
Speaker 2: you're really getting what I was going for. And I
Speaker 2: gotta be honest, I don't land on one side of
Speaker 2: that argument or another. Sometimes the show is a little
Speaker 2: it's a little all over the place because like sometimes
Speaker 2: the episodes are streamlined to go in the car, and
Speaker 2: sometimes you're like, this is an effect that I really
Speaker 2: want you to hear if you put on headphones and
Speaker 2: listen to this whole show. I want you to hear
Speaker 2: Minnie Magarette land on your shoulder.
Speaker 6: And I don't want to lose that because it's too cool.
Speaker 2: I know that that is probably counter to like I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't want to call it like a studio mentality
Speaker 2: or like a mentality where you're like, I want it
Speaker 2: to be the broadest possible audience. We want a broad audience.
Speaker 2: We want this to reach as many people who enjoy
Speaker 2: the story as possible. But sometimes you have to make
Speaker 2: little compromises like that and be like this sounds better
Speaker 2: on headphones, and I'm just gonna let it go because
Speaker 2: it doesn't sound bad in the car, right, But maybe
Speaker 2: it sounds a little too loud, or it's like something
Speaker 2: disappears or something like that. You can't have something disappear entirely, right.
Speaker 2: But these are all little compromises you have to make
Speaker 2: in the fact that we live in an era when
Speaker 2: not everybody is I guess if we go back to
Speaker 2: where we started, like loving things like the time that
Speaker 2: I think the three of us have a little bit
Speaker 2: of a love for before we were born. Like not
Speaker 2: everyone is sitting down with the family, turning on the
Speaker 2: radio and like hearing it through their I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: Magna box, what the heck do they have back in
Speaker 2: the day? But you know they're not listening to the
Speaker 2: the trolla right around the So people are listening in
Speaker 2: different ways. And there's the world in which you optimize
Speaker 2: for all of them, or maximize for all of them,
Speaker 2: or optimize for one.
Speaker 1: This is all to say, I am pushing very hard
Speaker 1: and I'm just making this announcement to the two of
Speaker 1: you right now. Season six mixed in Dolby Atmos every episode.
Speaker 6: Okay, yep, we'll take it under thank you.
Speaker 1: Those are some of our challenges. Let's throw it back
Speaker 1: over to the cast because someone had a question for
Speaker 1: them about what was most challenging or most memorable about
Speaker 1: their character in season five.
Speaker 7: The second question is from August from Scotland. August asks
Speaker 7: what is the most challenging part of playing your character
Speaker 7: this season and what was the most fun thing you
Speaker 7: got to do with them? Without a doubt, hands down,
Speaker 7: I didn't even have to think about it. My most
Speaker 7: fun thing my character did this season was the Christmas
Speaker 7: Eve episode. It was absolutely delightful to record the episode
Speaker 7: of Zelda getting Ebenezer scrooged, and as always, you know,
Speaker 7: there was some there were some light emotional moments in it,
Speaker 7: and I always love when I get to do that.
Speaker 7: The most challenging part of playing my role this season
Speaker 7: was actually had nothing to do with the character or
Speaker 7: the writing, because the writing is always fantastic in my
Speaker 7: humble opinion, and Zelda is always a delight to play.
Speaker 7: The most challenging part actually was finding the time to
Speaker 7: do the character and the writing the justice that I
Speaker 7: felt it deserved this year. In particular, over this past season,
Speaker 7: I have started traveling a lot for my job, and
Speaker 7: I'm super lucky that I get to do that. I
Speaker 7: love to travel, It's something I have always wanted to do,
Speaker 7: but it has put a little bit of a crimp
Speaker 7: in my style as far as having the time to
Speaker 7: do recording sessions. I don't always get to join the
Speaker 7: the online read throughs that we do, and I missponding
Speaker 7: with the cast, so that's really been the hardest part.
Speaker 7: My schedule has left me sort of doing things in
Speaker 7: a vacuum, sometimes feeling like I'm very last minute, and
Speaker 7: if I had more time, or if I could go
Speaker 7: to the read through with the cast, I'd feel more
Speaker 7: connected and would be more satisfied with what I'm sending
Speaker 7: out to the guys and to their end to page
Speaker 7: and to their credit, no one has complained. They're all
Speaker 7: very supportive and they give me awesome notes that I
Speaker 7: can use whenever I get the time to sit down
Speaker 7: and record something. And I hope that I'm able to
Speaker 7: organize my life a little better in the future.
Speaker 8: Wow, August, I get to play so many characters on
Speaker 8: Mission Rejected, and that's one of the wonderful things about
Speaker 8: my role, and as the Admiral, I think one of
Speaker 8: the big challenges is finding the balance between the admiral
Speaker 8: silliness and his seriousness, because he is certainly very silly.
Speaker 8: He's a ridiculous character. He's always cracking jokes, he's always
Speaker 8: like making a little sides, but he's also trying to
Speaker 8: get revenge and he's very serious about what he does,
Speaker 8: and so sometimes that just works, like he can be
Speaker 8: silly and serious and that's maybe what makes him scary.
Speaker 8: But finding the right balance is always a tough thing
Speaker 8: with the Admiral and August for you and all of
Speaker 8: our Scottish listeners out there, I loved playing Lord duncan
Speaker 8: Land this season on episode five eight, Lord dunken Land.
Speaker 8: I loved playing that and I loved I definitely took
Speaker 8: I definitely took Sean Connery as a you know, an
Speaker 8: influence for that, and you know, as like a sky
Speaker 8: like spy. It seemed like it was right there to do,
Speaker 8: like a Sean Connery. That was a really fun episode to do.
Speaker 8: I think that a big challenge for me this season
Speaker 8: was playing Zelda's father, thrash Anders, and instantly it's the
Speaker 8: similar challenge that I had with playing Gannon, which was
Speaker 8: also a character from Zelda's past, which is that both
Speaker 8: of those characters really had a strong, you know, an
Speaker 8: outlook that I didn't necessarily agree with and that's difficult
Speaker 8: to play as an actor. And both of them had
Speaker 8: their things that were kind of silly about them, and
Speaker 8: normally I'm you know, kind of playing silly characters where
Speaker 8: I can be very animated, and they have that too,
Speaker 8: but they also have to be very serious about their
Speaker 8: position and in a way that sets them apart from
Speaker 8: the other characters, especially Zelda, particularly Zelda in these scenes,
Speaker 8: and that's difficult to do, but it's a challenge that
Speaker 8: I really like and something that I think is, you know,
Speaker 8: really powerful for me as an actor to try to do.
Speaker 5: More So, I think the most physically challenging part of
Speaker 5: playing Gloria in any season is the fighting and the
Speaker 5: action sequences. I always feel a little self conscious doing
Speaker 5: it because I usually record in my apartment building and
Speaker 5: I'm sure that my neighbors can hear me being very loud.
Speaker 5: And also after five seasons, it's kind of hard to
Speaker 5: come up with new ways to grunt and like yell
Speaker 5: and karate chop. And also the scene in Golden Ear
Speaker 5: this season on top of the Plane was tough for
Speaker 5: similar reasons because, like I said, I live in an
Speaker 5: apartment building, so yelling without like really yelling is challenging. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then the most fun thing, it's tough because it's
Speaker 5: really all fun. Yeah, it's all really fun. But I
Speaker 5: think I'll say to answer the question in Noos is Off,
Speaker 5: when Gloria is standing in for Cresceda and Boden's play,
Speaker 5: it was fun to just kind of make her bad
Speaker 5: at it. Like Gloria has become really competent over the years,
Speaker 5: which is great, but I've always felt really strongly that
Speaker 5: she should always be bad at some the things, no
Speaker 5: matter how smart or trained she gets. And so one
Speaker 5: of the things I've tried to do consistently is that
Speaker 5: she's just a not a great actor performer. And I
Speaker 5: really like that because acting is kind of Boden's things,
Speaker 5: so their skills are just really well balanced and they
Speaker 5: don't step on each other's toes. So if you listen back,
Speaker 5: usually when Gloria is undercover as someone like other than
Speaker 5: someone who's super similar to her, she has like a
Speaker 5: really over the top accent or like a ridiculous voice,
Speaker 5: kind of like that's where Snazzi's splenda came from, or
Speaker 5: the Lady the Old Lady in the season one finale,
Speaker 5: like these are just kind of caricatury voices that aren't
Speaker 5: like real people, and like that's just the best she
Speaker 5: can do because she's not a great actress. So in
Speaker 5: Noos is Off, I got to explore this even more
Speaker 5: because she's not approaching acting as like undercover work. She's
Speaker 5: approaching acting is like kind of an art and a craft,
Speaker 5: and she knows what good acting is and she really
Speaker 5: respects it, but she just like really doesn't have that
Speaker 5: in her in my head, so that was a fun
Speaker 5: line to walk of her trying her hardest to be
Speaker 5: a good stage performer, but she's just really out of
Speaker 5: her depth, and so it comes out as like broad
Speaker 5: and overacted, and she's just she doesn't have it in
Speaker 5: the same way that Boden does, and that's one of
Speaker 5: the things she loves and respects and admires so much
Speaker 5: about Boden too.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 10: I think the most challenging part for me was the
Speaker 10: tail end of the season, meeting Orville Granger for the
Speaker 10: first time. This is a moment that we've been building
Speaker 10: up to, I think, not just across season five, but
Speaker 10: there have been kind of like, you know, little breadcrumbs
Speaker 10: in previous seasons hinting that Skip the character has this
Speaker 10: sort of estranged relationship with his father, but clearly you know,
Speaker 10: it has very fun memories of his mother. So there
Speaker 10: was kind of a lot writing on this, and I
Speaker 10: did a lot. Pete Barry, who does a lot of
Speaker 10: our sound editing, and other folks in the port know
Speaker 10: that there were a lot of takes of a lot
Speaker 10: of those lines between Skip and Orville, just doing my
Speaker 10: best to make sure that our producers had a rich
Speaker 10: palette of things to choose from to hopefully stitch something together.
Speaker 10: The most fun thing I got to do with Skip
Speaker 10: this season, I think has to be the Live and
Speaker 10: Let Dice. The Dungeons and Dragons episode especially gratifying for
Speaker 10: me because on the side, in my personal life, I
Speaker 10: am a dungeon master for an actual campaign that has
Speaker 10: been running since twenty nineteen. It's at this point six
Speaker 10: years old, going on seven. One continuous campaign, one continuous
Speaker 10: story from the cast here, j Michael and Paige have
Speaker 10: both been characters in it since twenty nineteen. So it
Speaker 10: was really really fun, invigorating, enjoyable, and satisfying to be
Speaker 10: able to bring my love of that game and what
Speaker 10: it brings to my own friendships that are really near
Speaker 10: and dear to me to the show. It's just something
Speaker 10: that I hope Skip and the rest of the crew
Speaker 10: would actually enjoy together once they work through their kinks,
Speaker 10: and hopefully it is something that some of our listeners
Speaker 10: you know, that resonated with them too. What makes that
Speaker 10: game so special and so fun. Thanks for the question.
Speaker 10: I also recognize, August, that episode took place in Scotland
Speaker 10: and you're asking from Scotland, so it didn't mean for it. Obviously,
Speaker 10: that would have been my answer regardless, but hopefully that
Speaker 10: answer hits home for you, if you will excuse the pun.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: I think that my answer for both parts of this
Speaker 4: question are the same. You know, Boden is a ball
Speaker 4: to play. He's this larger than life character and he
Speaker 4: gets like twelve jokes an episode and it's phenomenal. But
Speaker 4: it's also really interesting when he's afforded opportunities to be vulnerable.
Speaker 4: You know, he he does have this very guarded personality
Speaker 4: about his insecurities, and I think, like a lot of celebrities,
Speaker 4: he wants to present this very successful front and it's
Speaker 4: played to great comedic effect too, with all of the
Speaker 4: name dropping and the embellishing of his credentials and everything.
Speaker 4: But you know, when he does drop that kind of
Speaker 4: actory facade that he greets the world with and gets
Speaker 4: to be kind of real with people. Unsurprisingly, most of
Speaker 4: them are with Gloria, who is closest to But that's
Speaker 4: that's a joy to play because you get to explore
Speaker 4: a facet of a character and you see this very
Speaker 4: well rounded person underneath all that. It can be challenging.
Speaker 4: I think in that you got to work a little
Speaker 4: bit harder as an actor and dig a little bit
Speaker 4: deeper to strike the right chord. But you know, I
Speaker 4: think nowhere else was at a parent than when Bowden
Speaker 4: and Gloria decide to get married. I love that scene
Speaker 4: as I understand it. Page handled most of the dialogue
Speaker 4: in there, and I think she knocked it out of
Speaker 4: the ballpark. I hope my acting rose to the level
Speaker 4: of both the writing and the acting in that scene.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that scene in particular in this
Speaker 4: season was both the most challenging but absolutely the most rewarding.
Speaker 9: I don't I want to say there are a lot
Speaker 9: of challenging parts because we have so much fun. I
Speaker 9: love the absurdity of the things that our characters are doing.
Speaker 9: But there was one part. It was the episode where
Speaker 9: they found all these missing objects from the theater in
Speaker 9: the underground sewers. I thought that was so gross, just
Speaker 9: even them talking about it. Just the image of being
Speaker 9: calf deep in human waste, that's exactly how it was written,
Speaker 9: was just gross. Like truly, and I'm pretty sure McGrath
Speaker 9: was gagging throughout those scenes. It was real. The more
Speaker 9: I thought about it while we were recording it, the
Speaker 9: more I felt sick. So even though it was funny,
Speaker 9: I couldn't wait for that part to be over. But
Speaker 9: it was really funny. But even listening to it, I
Speaker 9: was like, oh God, we really sold it. They sound nauseated,
Speaker 9: all right, And what was the most fun thing you
Speaker 9: got to do with your character this season? So the
Speaker 9: most fun thing I got to do with McGrath, I
Speaker 9: think it was the whole episode where they went to
Speaker 9: the Olympics when they were in Paris. I personally love
Speaker 9: the Olympics. I always get super giddy and excited every
Speaker 9: four years when it's time again. I love the fact
Speaker 9: that she hated the Olympics, and she had her reasons.
Speaker 9: I totally understand. But I also always love when she
Speaker 9: gets the torture Boden and all the scenes where she
Speaker 9: was totally overtraining him and over extending him and he
Speaker 9: had to practice with all these professional athletes. It was
Speaker 9: just really fun to boss him around. And I don't
Speaker 9: know all the jokes were I think landing pretty well
Speaker 9: at least in my head. I hope everybody feels the
Speaker 9: same way. Yeah, I would say that was one of
Speaker 9: the most fun moments, even though again I could pick
Speaker 9: so many others, so many even like the first episode
Speaker 9: of this season where McGrath gets to execute her plan
Speaker 9: with Skip without the others knowing it was it was
Speaker 9: really fun to know that they have a little secret
Speaker 9: code language between them. They know what's going on, but
Speaker 9: they can't really reveal it to anybody else yet. That
Speaker 9: was so fun. I mean, all of it is so fun,
Speaker 9: so so fun.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 9: Wow, Oh my goodness, how can I forget Mini McGrath.
Speaker 9: It was one of the highlights of the season. Minie
Speaker 9: McGrath was one of the highlights of the season with
Speaker 9: all her cuteness. And I think we left after every
Speaker 9: line of Minie McGrath all of us.
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, well, sounds like we really put the
Speaker 1: cast through the ringer as usual. We've got two more
Speaker 1: questions for us. One I think is really for me.
Speaker 1: Remy from New Jersey, ass what came first? The baby
Speaker 1: whale song on Mission Rejected or the baby Whale quest
Speaker 1: In Chris Kleinecki's D and D Game. Yes, So Remy
Speaker 1: is a friend of ours who participates in Chris Klinecki's
Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons game. Chris is an amazing DM I play.
Speaker 1: His game page is in the game, Bob is in
Speaker 1: the game. So it is a mission rejected heavy game.
Speaker 1: And as a nod to that, we have had a
Speaker 1: long running side quest for my character to raise enough
Speaker 1: gold to buy a baby whale that's going to take
Speaker 1: us to tor Atlantis. So yes, rebby the gag on
Speaker 1: mission rejected came first. Mission rejected predates the D and
Speaker 1: D game by about two years.
Speaker 3: So I had no idea baby Whale made it into
Speaker 3: Christmas D and DA.
Speaker 1: Yes and Chris put that in as a little mission
Speaker 1: rejected Easter egg for for me and the other players.
Speaker 2: So that is you want to hear the origin story
Speaker 2: of baby Whale itself?
Speaker 6: Go back to the season one. Well right, we did,
Speaker 6: and well you'll hear all of this.
Speaker 1: Well, well this is not a fan question, but this conversation,
Speaker 1: uh does make me think, Pete, you have, as always
Speaker 1: had to write some additional original music this season. So
Speaker 1: what what special songs we have? You did Dungeons and
Speaker 1: Dragons music.
Speaker 6: The Dungeons Dragons was fun.
Speaker 1: You did Christmas music?
Speaker 6: Is that? Is that it? So I'll go through it
Speaker 6: an order because that's how my brain works. Five one,
Speaker 6: five or two.
Speaker 2: Pretty much recycled the old songs, despite the fact that
Speaker 2: some people were like, shoot, be a dark emf.
Speaker 6: Theme sight and I'm like, I don't know what.
Speaker 2: In five o three I had to write the theme
Speaker 2: song to uh Naked in Dismayed or whatever the heck
Speaker 2: the show was after a couple of jungle drums and whatever,
Speaker 2: you know it was. It was cheesy, like, you know,
Speaker 2: whatever it was.
Speaker 6: I also write and add I think for the music are.
Speaker 2: Oh five oh four wrote the Murder she plays your
Speaker 2: Murder yes, which you know again I don't want to
Speaker 2: maybe you cut this for the Patreon bonus, but like
Speaker 2: Mike and I are trying to figure out a way
Speaker 2: to maybe write the you know, the spin off that
Speaker 2: was promised of the Murder. She wrote, you know, spoof
Speaker 2: with test Thatcher. But I was like, well, I kind
Speaker 2: of really want to have a good theme song for
Speaker 2: that show if we go to it, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's very murder. She wrote rip off, But like that
Speaker 2: was the idea that they just supposed to be envisioning
Speaker 2: that then forgot wrote. You know what, there's not much
Speaker 2: of it. I think I wrote a little bit of
Speaker 2: a Oh no, I'm wrong, I'm entirely wrong.
Speaker 6: John.
Speaker 2: Did you get a fanfare for uh Campbellton the musical?
Speaker 1: Which I completely Oh yeah, that overture we pulled.
Speaker 6: We pulled that, So I'm not gonna say credit for
Speaker 6: the overture. I didn't write. I just remembered it was
Speaker 6: in there.
Speaker 2: Uh five oh six, I'm pretty sure we used the
Speaker 2: usual stuff, right. It was action music, but but it's
Speaker 2: the same old cann stuff I believe.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Five oh seven was the wait the Sergabian national theme song.
Speaker 2: John Anthem gave me the assignment, can you write the
Speaker 2: national theme song of ser Gabia?
Speaker 3: Also make it the worst song you ever heard? Its
Speaker 3: thumbs up and I had that I wrote it in
Speaker 3: a made up Sergabian language.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: My favorite part of the song is where I just
Speaker 2: decided that they were just to degenerate into going.
Speaker 6: Fight fight fight, fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 2: Which I decided the word for in Sergabia was brought,
Speaker 2: which I did not realize was German for bread bread.
Speaker 2: So someone later was like, did you know that you're
Speaker 2: just singing bread, bread, bread, bread, bread.
Speaker 6: Over over again.
Speaker 3: If they were Germany, that's right, yes.
Speaker 6: But this is I did you know.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't believe how meticulous I got with that. By
Speaker 2: the way, I was like J. R. R. Tolkien like,
Speaker 2: and the etymology of the word in Sir Gabian comes
Speaker 2: from the web.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sounds like a great blog entry.
Speaker 2: Pete, absolutely, yeah, so and then oh wait, it was
Speaker 2: the D and D one, which not only came with
Speaker 2: the songs, but like I also that I usually either
Speaker 2: go to freesound dot org or I go to or
Speaker 2: I make my own sound effects, Like I'm very passionate
Speaker 2: about making our own sound effects for the show, except
Speaker 2: in the cases when we can't really get them. But
Speaker 2: in that case, I actually wanted a different quality of
Speaker 2: sound effect because I wanted the D and D sound
Speaker 2: effects to be like more cartoony and more sounding like
Speaker 2: they were canned sound effects. They were free, they were
Speaker 2: they were public domain sound effects, but they were much
Speaker 2: more of like pro and sound effects that to get
Speaker 2: those those sword slashes.
Speaker 6: And spells and whatever.
Speaker 2: Because I wanted a qualitative difference between the sounds that
Speaker 2: were going on in the D and D universe as
Speaker 2: opposed to.
Speaker 6: The actual world.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, five oh nine, no extra music, five
Speaker 2: ten I might, yeah, I wrote a little write. I
Speaker 2: wrote a little museum theme, right John to go into
Speaker 2: the spy Museum. And then five eleven was, oh wait,
Speaker 2: there's one more. So five eleven was that great Christmas music.
Speaker 2: I you know, I thought it was great. I hope
Speaker 2: you enjoyed it, but I enjoyed making the Christmas music.
Speaker 2: And the one thing I like about always doing the
Speaker 2: alternate mission rejected themes is that mission rejected theme itself.
Speaker 1: Is in two sections.
Speaker 2: Right, You've got the the orchestra section and the like
Speaker 2: the big band section, and then you've got the marimba section,
Speaker 2: the quieter one. So every time I do a new theme,
Speaker 2: I have to decide what are the two parts of yes, right,
Speaker 2: so like the Halloween theme is like big, you know,
Speaker 2: booming haunted house thing and then stranger things, right, that's
Speaker 2: the that's the contrast of like what.
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 2: And then the Dungeon and Dragons one I had to
Speaker 2: write a theme, right, there was a dungeon dragon theme song.
Speaker 2: So I think it's like very like again, Goblin army
Speaker 2: coming for you, and then like the the the angelic
Speaker 2: like creepy crypt like right for Christmas. I think it's
Speaker 2: like a sleigh bell right, It's like it's like sleigh.
Speaker 6: Ride that that.
Speaker 1: That and then the second part is like Carol of
Speaker 1: the Bells.
Speaker 6: It's Carol the Bells. That's right, That's what it was,
Speaker 6: Carol the Bells.
Speaker 2: Okay, but then I forgot also the last part of
Speaker 2: the season, Uh that I had to write the Admiral playing.
Speaker 6: The orchid.
Speaker 2: And Mike, Mike put so many he's like, and then
Speaker 2: we play all public debate Christmas call. So I had
Speaker 2: the admil play.
Speaker 6: And the thing.
Speaker 1: It was very Yes, I can't say exactly what motivated me,
Speaker 1: but when I was writing five or eleven, I wrote
Speaker 1: very specific music cues for the transitions. There was a
Speaker 1: certain method to my madness because we were traveling in time,
Speaker 1: much like we did in the other Zelda flashback episode
Speaker 1: Les right where we had Boden was what was switching
Speaker 1: us back and forth. But this is Zelda hallucinating that
Speaker 1: she's moving in and out of time, and then we're
Speaker 1: moving between scenes within those timelines. So I had to
Speaker 1: come up with a way to kind of signify what
Speaker 1: was what, and so the scene transitions I said should
Speaker 1: be Christmas carols, and then I just then I just
Speaker 1: started dictating what I wanted those to be right, and
Speaker 1: we stayed. You stuck pretty close to it, and I
Speaker 1: was really happy with it.
Speaker 2: But oh right, so there's a there's a Rats Dominion version.
Speaker 2: It's not Rats Dominion, but there's like.
Speaker 1: A yeah, yeah, so I also that's that's right. That
Speaker 1: part of it was you had to establish what time
Speaker 1: you were moving into. So when they go to Zelda's
Speaker 1: punk rock past, it's a punk rock version of got
Speaker 1: Rescu married John. Yeah, it was. And then when you're
Speaker 1: moving into the present and you're underwater, it's the Admiral
Speaker 1: on the organ.
Speaker 2: Right, which is one of my favorites, because I like
Speaker 2: it's a it's it starts off real dramatic, because I
Speaker 2: wanted to be like the joke being like, oh it's
Speaker 2: an It's like it's you know, twenty thousand leagues of
Speaker 2: the sea. It's like he's playing the organ, and then
Speaker 2: it goes into this like as much as the best
Speaker 2: I can describe it is it is a baseball park
Speaker 2: version of Hark the Herald Angels sing. It's just like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: did I'm like, I imagine the little old man at
Speaker 2: the with his hot dog at the ballpark being like.
Speaker 1: It was. And then there was there was Studia Baker's
Speaker 1: Lab has a fish fish.
Speaker 6: Version of Oh my God, what was it? God?
Speaker 2: RESHI Mary Gentlemen or something like that was also amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that just like it's so much fun. And I want
Speaker 2: to say amazing. I'm not saying the product is amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm saying the process of making these songs is like, Okay,
Speaker 2: what is Studi Baker's theme party?
Speaker 1: I think we I guess we actually did. Uh. There
Speaker 1: was The other one was the opening where Chet's at
Speaker 1: the White House Christmas tree lighting. It is the US
Speaker 1: Marine Band. We actually thought those.
Speaker 2: Really good actors, uh impersonating Quaid brothers.
Speaker 1: You know. John recently sent something to me from one
Speaker 1: of those pod tracking sites that list last lists Randy
Speaker 1: and Dennis Quaid as a pure as themselves as guests
Speaker 1: in five five eleven.
Speaker 6: Do we need to do something?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 6: Someone someone nailed it.
Speaker 1: We need so good that they couldn't tell so but
Speaker 1: so for that we actually, because it's in the public domain,
Speaker 1: we were able to use the.
Speaker 6: Relay.
Speaker 3: You can use it because the song is in the
Speaker 3: public domain and it's the answer.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we've come to our last question. I
Speaker 1: think this one will be fairly easy to answer. Now
Speaker 1: watch two hours later, we'll see, we'll see if I
Speaker 1: was right or not. Once again, Kim from Virginia asked,
Speaker 1: how long does it take to record an episode? You know,
Speaker 1: we block uh, four hours to record with the main cast.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we do it, unless sometimes we run over. But
Speaker 1: let's say four hours and we record on the penn
Speaker 1: ultimate Sunday of the month, the second to last Sunday
Speaker 1: of the month, and it comes out the last Friday
Speaker 1: of the next month. So essentially it takes a month
Speaker 1: to put an episode together. That's not counting the time
Speaker 1: it takes to write it and get it. But from
Speaker 1: the record date to the release date is about a month,
Speaker 1: and so four hours with the cast, an hour here
Speaker 1: or there, two hours if it's somebody like when we
Speaker 1: did Og we spent two hours with him on five twelve.
Speaker 1: It was a bigger thing. I spent you know, an
Speaker 1: hour or so with David doing Terry Millionaire. But it
Speaker 1: all adds, it all adds up. So it's it's I
Speaker 1: would say ten hours of recording time and then at
Speaker 1: least you know, multiples of that in editing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so it depends, it changes from episodes of
Speaker 2: the episode, but it is a lot of time.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that the care that both of you
Speaker 1: put into the post production and really shows the show
Speaker 1: sounds great. It was another delightful year. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to dive into season six. Thank you all for sending
Speaker 1: in these great questions. Thanks to our cast for their
Speaker 1: thoughtful answers on those the questions that were aimed at them.
Speaker 1: We've got a bit of a hiatus still to go.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of exciting things planned to fill
Speaker 1: the hiatus, none of which are in a place to
Speaker 1: be announced yet, unfortunately, but we are trust us. We
Speaker 1: are working on some really fun things that are going
Speaker 1: to launch us into season six, things we've been wanting
Speaker 1: to do for a long time, and some new ideas
Speaker 1: that we're looking forward to. So please stay tuned. There's
Speaker 1: going to be a lot. We'll announce it on our
Speaker 1: socials and of course on our Patreon. So thank you
Speaker 1: both for your time today, Thanks for your hard work
Speaker 1: on season five, and we'll see you season six.
Speaker 6: Everybody out there.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to do the behind the scenes episode
Speaker 1: of season six, all about how we adapted Dolby at
Speaker 1: most can't Hey, everybody, Michael was one more quick thing.
Speaker 1: Just a reminder that.
Speaker 11: Patreon Networks got a forty five minutes longer version of
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