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<v Speaker 1>Okay, hello, welcome everyone to unbelievably our fifth behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes special. I'm j Michael Dangelis, co creator, co executive producer,

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<v Speaker 1>co writer and co director, but sole marketing manager of

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<v Speaker 1>mission rejected.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god, you don't want me messing around with.

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<v Speaker 1>That marketing now, Good God, I truly don't. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>joined today by my two partners in the porch room.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got Pete Barry, Hello, universe, and I've got John P. Dalgan.

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<v Speaker 3>Greetings, all, greetings, all this fine, sunny warm where I

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<v Speaker 3>am Spring Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, also a core part of the writing

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<v Speaker 1>and creative team is Paige Klinecki. We'll be hearing from her,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a whole bunch of our cast members

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<v Speaker 1>later on in the show. So, after five years of

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<v Speaker 1>doing well, after four years of behind the scenes shows,

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't quite sure what people wanted to know anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>We had been interviewed, we had interviewed each other, we

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<v Speaker 1>had the cast interview each other behind our backs, we

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<v Speaker 1>had we interviewed other podcasters, and we were just not

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<v Speaker 1>sure what we could talk about in this fifth year.

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<v Speaker 1>So we threw it out to the audience. We put

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<v Speaker 1>a poll out there. We asked our Patreon members, we

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<v Speaker 1>put a poll out on our social media, put out

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<v Speaker 1>a call for questions, and we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>great questions from our fans. So today we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do our best to answer our fan questions. Well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna dive into some specific questions, but we also got

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<v Speaker 1>some great questions for our cast, and they were kind

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<v Speaker 1>enough to record their answers. So I'm gonna throw it

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<v Speaker 1>over to our cast, who all have some thoughts about

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<v Speaker 1>what their characters look like.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, everyone, this is Dave Stanger. I play Bowden Moncrief,

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<v Speaker 4>and the first question I see is how do you

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<v Speaker 4>view your own character physically. I think I might have

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned something along this line in a previous behind the

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<v Speaker 4>scenes episode, but I tend to picture him as sort

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<v Speaker 4>of like this amalgamation of a couple different celebrities that

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<v Speaker 4>I know, and the one that is foremost in my

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<v Speaker 4>brain for Boden is Rob Low. You can google who

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<v Speaker 4>he is if you're not sure, but he's definitely who

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<v Speaker 4>I picture any time I'm trying to kind of get

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<v Speaker 4>into character for Boden, and sometimes maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a younger Alec Baldwin and maybe to a lesser

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<v Speaker 4>extent John Ham, but someone of their ilk. I think

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<v Speaker 4>for Boden, someone I tend to picture some guy with

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<v Speaker 4>dark hair, chiseled, looks kind of an aging pretty boy.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I think Roblow would be a great touchstone

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<v Speaker 4>if you're if you're wondering who I picture for Boden

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<v Speaker 4>w And.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is a really good question. I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>I really have very clear pictures for any of the characters.

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<v Speaker 6>In my head.

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<v Speaker 5>And maybe that's because I don't Maybe that's because I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think I have the most visual imagination. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's more conceptual. So the characters for me are are

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<v Speaker 5>kind of like in dreams, when you have like a general,

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<v Speaker 5>wiggly outline of a person with general features emerging, but

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<v Speaker 5>they're not like fully formed. And I think Glory is

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<v Speaker 5>even harder for me to picture than any of the

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<v Speaker 5>other characters, because I don't really see myself as Gloria,

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<v Speaker 5>Like in my head, she's just a fully separate person

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<v Speaker 5>from me. She has different dreams and different fears and

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<v Speaker 5>different tendencies, and I'm just playing her. But at the

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<v Speaker 5>same time, it's also weird to think of my voice

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<v Speaker 5>coming out of someone who looks very different from me,

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<v Speaker 5>so it's just hard to picture.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe that's a cop out, but I don't think I

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<v Speaker 5>have a clear answer. But that's why I really love

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<v Speaker 5>seeing the fan art so much. I really love seeing

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<v Speaker 5>how all the fans and how you all see her

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<v Speaker 5>and bring her to life, because that really helps me

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<v Speaker 5>fill in these gaps that I have in my imagination,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's fun to just see all the very different

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<v Speaker 5>versions of her that come out.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow, this is Faith Dowgin and I play Zelda Anders.

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<v Speaker 7>These are really fun questions. So the first one from

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<v Speaker 7>Jace from the Philippines is how do you view your

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<v Speaker 7>own character physically? I think i'd have to say that

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<v Speaker 7>Zelda is definitely taller than I am, because I am

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<v Speaker 7>only five two and I have always wanted to be taller.

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<v Speaker 7>But she's not super tall, maybe five six, a nice

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<v Speaker 7>average girl height. And she's fit because even though she

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<v Speaker 7>hates going to the gym, she hates pilates, she hates cardio,

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<v Speaker 7>she knows that she probably will be in some sort

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<v Speaker 7>of situation where she should probably be strong and tough.

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<v Speaker 7>She does love kickboxing. Zelda's a big fan of kickboxing.

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<v Speaker 7>And she wears amazing clothes like Calvin Klein and basically

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<v Speaker 7>Calvin Klein. Basically her entire wardrobe is Calvin Klein because

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<v Speaker 7>it's always in fashion, it's comfortable, it's practical and yeah shoes,

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<v Speaker 7>oh shoes. So she wears converse a lot and practical shoes.

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<v Speaker 7>Zelda's a practical goal.

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<v Speaker 3>Wo.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, this is Bob Killian. I play the Admiral and

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<v Speaker 8>a host of other characters Jase. For me, the Admiral

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<v Speaker 8>is as big and as imposing in person as he

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<v Speaker 8>is on the podcast in his voice. When I do

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<v Speaker 8>the Admiral, I do a lot of hand gestures and

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<v Speaker 8>moving around and a lot that just to throw myself

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<v Speaker 8>around when doing the Admiral because I feel like the

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<v Speaker 8>Admiral is so imposing physically in my mind. And so Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>which is really fun to play. I really enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm pretty sure there's a picture on the Mission rejected

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<v Speaker 8>website of me doing facial expressions or something with the Admiral.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 9>Hi everyone, this is Nozla and I am the voice

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<v Speaker 9>of Mackenzie McGrath. So how do I view McGrath physically?

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<v Speaker 9>I think McGrath is an enigma hard to figure out. Physically,

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<v Speaker 9>I think she is surprisingly fit and strong and quick,

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<v Speaker 9>even though she does absolutely nothing to train herself. Like

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<v Speaker 9>train physically, she does nothing. I don't think she works out.

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<v Speaker 9>Her workout is grabbing another bag of chips. But I

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<v Speaker 9>don't think she ever has trouble as much as Skip

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<v Speaker 9>does whenever there is an exercise wond So she's everything

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<v Speaker 9>I wish I was. Basically, I think McGrath is genetically

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<v Speaker 9>gifted that she doesn't need to lift a finger, but

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<v Speaker 9>she's so strong.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 10>This is Chris klinecky. I you see him as pronouns

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<v Speaker 10>and I play Skip Grainger, who also uses him as pronouns,

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<v Speaker 10>And I'm very happy to be here answering some of

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<v Speaker 10>the questions that we received for this special episode. Jason,

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<v Speaker 10>That's a great question, really fair one too, especially since

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<v Speaker 10>we exist in the audio world. Honestly, for me, I

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<v Speaker 10>am so delighted and humbled every time I get to

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<v Speaker 10>see one of our listeners who has some artistic flare

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<v Speaker 10>do a rendition of any of our characters, including Skip.

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<v Speaker 10>Every time I see a new Skip, I think this

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<v Speaker 10>is fantastic when it comes to how I view my

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<v Speaker 10>own characters. Skip Grainger physically. Honestly, at this point between

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<v Speaker 10>seasons five and six, it's essentially the conceptual midpoint between

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<v Speaker 10>the various iterations of Skip Granger that I've seen in

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<v Speaker 10>the artwork getting from season one all the way through recently.

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<v Speaker 10>I just kind of picture, you know, a hodgepodge if

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<v Speaker 10>you will, of those sorts of features altogether. That just

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<v Speaker 10>makes me smile. That being said, if there are any

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<v Speaker 10>listeners out there listening to this particular episode who have

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<v Speaker 10>some artistic flare and are thinking, I haven't seen a

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<v Speaker 10>version of Skip that agrees with what I have in

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<v Speaker 10>my head in terms of the image, this is of

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<v Speaker 10>course not a request, not by any stretch of the bine.

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<v Speaker 10>But if you're looking to change how I viewed Skip Granger,

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<v Speaker 10>I would say, add your own take on Skip Granger

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<v Speaker 10>to the mix and we'll go from there. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 10>not asking you to make pictures of Skip Granger.

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<v Speaker 6>I promise.

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<v Speaker 10>I just if you do, it will certainly be incorporated

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<v Speaker 10>in my own sort of mental image of the character.

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<v Speaker 10>That's a guarantee.

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<v Speaker 6>And we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you cast for those insightful answers. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be hearing again from them. Shortly. But let's uh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a question for us. Uh So Wedge from Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 1>asks us what's changed in production process or pipeline since

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<v Speaker 1>between season one and season five?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a lot, we know we we we didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell we were doing when we started, and

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<v Speaker 2>if we had, frankly, would we have started this.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And there are some lessons we still haven't learned.

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<v Speaker 6>Like there there are a lot of There are some

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<v Speaker 6>lessons I refuse.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of creators who we talk to

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<v Speaker 3>who are just a guest that we do not have

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<v Speaker 3>a complete season written before we before we start releasing episode.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, what, who's a guest at one? And

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<v Speaker 6>everybody's a gas all the time, dismay.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing is the division of labor has changed

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<v Speaker 3>quite a bit. Seasons one and two. Pete edited and

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<v Speaker 3>mixed every episode, every every single and three.

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<v Speaker 1>Three. Don't take it away from me, man, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>the season four you started sharing.

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<v Speaker 3>Was season four. I could have sworn. I could have

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<v Speaker 3>sworn the c I A at the CIA episode.

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<v Speaker 6>In my memory, it's all good, You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>That was season four. So yeah, so Pete, Pete edited

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<v Speaker 3>and mixed all of the first three seasons, which was

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<v Speaker 3>rapidly becoming.

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<v Speaker 6>A completely that was fine, right, like, yeah, it was,

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<v Speaker 6>it was, it was a lot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But but then John, uh, you know, stepped up really

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<v Speaker 2>really well.

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<v Speaker 11>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Season three was when I started, was when I started

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<v Speaker 3>editing and mixing the Patreon bonuses to take off. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what I was thinking, and after I had cut my

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<v Speaker 3>teeth on Reaper doing that. Yes, the the c I

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<v Speaker 3>A at the CIA episode was the the first one

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<v Speaker 3>that I had that I mixed entirely on my own. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And since then we've gone into an alternating mostly alternating

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<v Speaker 3>Pete does one I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this year, I think you you gave me some

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<v Speaker 2>some leeway to like grab a couple of episodes.

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<v Speaker 6>I was, I do this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so if you if it's an episode that you

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<v Speaker 3>wrote that was would normally have been me to edit,

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<v Speaker 3>Like what was which one was it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I wonder so I'll have to think back

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<v Speaker 2>on this, but I think five o nine might have

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<v Speaker 2>been the first episode that I wrote and I'm like, okay, John,

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<v Speaker 2>you can you can take us one.

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<v Speaker 6>I put me wrong on that one though. There might

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<v Speaker 6>be another one.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was one that there was one that you

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<v Speaker 3>wrote that you definitely edited to in a row because.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one clear right five O nine I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I did take five, which one was a different one.

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<v Speaker 2>Five and nine was the Cornfield one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's right, because you had the you had

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<v Speaker 3>the idea for what the sounds of mission of the

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<v Speaker 3>missile base, where.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't want to have to be to like

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<v Speaker 2>burden you with creating a north By Northwest spoof where

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<v Speaker 6>And when that was reported, the response.

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<v Speaker 6>We learned to live with it. It was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Right, particularly on when like ninety nine percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, I was sure everybody knows. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>and the word pandemic was in the air, and only

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of us got together to do that. One

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<v Speaker 1>because of the pandemic for a long time. So we

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<v Speaker 1>shipped everybody microphones and we taught everyone how to use

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<v Speaker 1>audacity or Reaper, and that's how we and then we

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<v Speaker 1>all just got on. We would still get together and

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<v Speaker 1>it's still the way it works. We get together on

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<v Speaker 1>our discord channel, and we recorded as many people together

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a question about this later, so we'll put

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<v Speaker 1>a pin and we'll come back to how how that

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<v Speaker 1>process works. And it's a double edge it's a double

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<v Speaker 1>edged sword. I think it's I think we absolutely do

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<v Speaker 1>lose a little something. It's a little intangible something when

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<v Speaker 1>you're all in the room together, right, It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>like John Saiswitz. You know almost everybody in the cast

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<v Speaker 1>as a stage actor. They know how to play off

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<v Speaker 1>each other and they do it well virtually, but something

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<v Speaker 1>else happens in the room. You can see each other's faces,

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<v Speaker 1>you get that energy that that can be very helpful. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not to say that it's just different. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just different. It's not better or worse, it's just different.

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<v Speaker 1>I miss seeing everyone. I miss the camaraderie.

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<v Speaker 2>But once you move to the remote version, we have

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<v Speaker 2>been able to incorporate a lot more like just have

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<v Speaker 2>the mindset to incorporate people from all around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure, Oh for sure, people from England, people

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<v Speaker 2>from you know, like we get people from all over

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<v Speaker 2>more standardized when everybody's talking into their USB Mike. Then

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I got to balance the environment of Mike's

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<v Speaker 2>apartment versus someone who recorded this in Ontario. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>there is like some you know, I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>say that there is a positive that comes out of

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<v Speaker 2>it that you're like, yeah, you sort of broaden your

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<v Speaker 2>horizons in terms of what this recording process could be.

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<v Speaker 6>And in certain cases you were.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, well, the recording didn't come out quite as well

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<v Speaker 2>as I would hope from this person across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>But you either learn techniques to sort of overcome that

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<v Speaker 2>or you start to realize, like I always strive to

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<v Speaker 2>get the best possible audio into an episode, but there

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<v Speaker 2>are a couple of times where you're just like, you

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<v Speaker 2>just gotta thread the needle, and you know, and and

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<v Speaker 2>and like you said, John, like sometimes you're like, there's

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<v Speaker 6>This person's always on comms.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like we'll just do that more and dropping in.

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<v Speaker 3>If you drop in a sufficiently loud background ambiance, that

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<v Speaker 3>tends to as long as it's not drowning anybody out,

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<v Speaker 3>it tends to cover a lot of Also, I have

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<v Speaker 3>found audiences as long as it's not egregious, as long

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<v Speaker 3>as you're not actively like having to change the volume

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<v Speaker 3>of whatever you're listening it on every time a different

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<v Speaker 3>character comes on, if it's audiences are very forgiving. I've

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<v Speaker 3>noticed it with myself. Like some of the other shows

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<v Speaker 3>that I listen to, they don't record in the same room,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can tell. And like an episode of a

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<v Speaker 3>bet that actor was recording remotely or on their own

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<v Speaker 3>one day. And then I think goes out of my

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<v Speaker 1>There's no one way to do this, and uh, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people we've talked before, there's different ways to

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<v Speaker 1>do it too. Some people say just put it all

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<v Speaker 1>three different versions of each line, and I'll pick other

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<v Speaker 1>people get on and direct. So it's different and this

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<v Speaker 1>is a nice dovetail because we've actually started to address

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<v Speaker 1>this already. But here's our second question. Kim from Virginia

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<v Speaker 3>So I am going to try, I am going to

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<v Speaker 3>try and stop and I do this at least once

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<v Speaker 3>in every episode, and I'm going to try to stop

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<v Speaker 3>same time. Thank god, man, No, no, no, that's always

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<v Speaker 3>if the characters aren't if the actors aren't in the

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<v Speaker 6>Works out, that trick never.

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<v Speaker 3>So to Mike's point, yes, sometimes we put it all

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<v Speaker 3>on the actors. Like you said, we give us, give

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<v Speaker 3>us three, three readings of each line.

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<v Speaker 6>David S.

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<v Speaker 3>Deer is the best at that.

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<v Speaker 3>Dere is absolutely an a is just a master.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the three.

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<v Speaker 3>The three because they're all completely different, they're all completely valid,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's never more than three. It's never more than three.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you an amazing David S. Dear story. He

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<v Speaker 1>because he featured so prominently in five point twelve. He right,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I'd love to I'd love to do it

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<v Speaker 1>with you if you could direct me my pleasure. I

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<v Speaker 1>love hanging out with David. So we got on and

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<v Speaker 1>we did it, and we spent a long time, not

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<v Speaker 1>then we got to the end and he went none

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<v Speaker 1>of that recorded like he was. But he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem, I'm gonna let you go. I'm gonna reset

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna do it just

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<v Speaker 3>Say I don't remember, I remember it. It was pretty

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<v Speaker 3>traditional David.

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<v Speaker 1>It was he just and he he and he knocked

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<v Speaker 1>it out in about thirty minutes. He texted me, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's done because he just retained. But he's John absolutely pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear it in his voice.

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<v Speaker 3>He is he is a Vulcan. I'm convinced David Astier

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<v Speaker 6>What I've noticed in Pete.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've noticed this either, is David.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta obviously you listen to everybody's whole track before

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<v Speaker 3>you pick the shoes. Yeah, David's David's best stuff can

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<v Speaker 3>cut out anywhere. It could be the first read, it

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<v Speaker 3>could be the second read, it.

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<v Speaker 6>Could be the third read.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris is almost always the third read.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, Nozla.

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<v Speaker 3>Nozla is almost always the first read. Like it takes

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<v Speaker 3>it takes Chris. It takes Chris to to read. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>not if you're if you're directing them.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're directing them, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually the last lead. But if they're recording on their own,

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<v Speaker 2>No, And I'm serious, like I have definitely like had

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry everyone, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like, okay, no, it's just like this. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I get back to the thing and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>God damn, I was.

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<v Speaker 6>Wrong the first one. No, I screwed them up entirely.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, just like yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>There's you know, I guess I'm trying to get back

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<v Speaker 2>to the back to the question of just like what

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<v Speaker 2>of all the voices to match. I you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>levels are your first are your first basic issue, right,

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<v Speaker 2>how does everybody sound? You can't you know some just

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<v Speaker 6>I go right up in the cabra just start talking it.

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<v Speaker 2>So like like there is a perceptual process that you

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<v Speaker 2>exact same level, especially when you're doing drama. Right, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing a podcast that's just an interview podcast, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know this one, you're probably gonna want everybody

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, you just sort of level them out.

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<v Speaker 2>People tend to talk to each other at a at

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<v Speaker 2>a single level. What so you can yeah, exactly just

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But like I went to uh into Gordon

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<v Speaker 2>cole terror there for a minute. But like the yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're the best advice I ever got on that I

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<v Speaker 2>ever read on recording was from someone quoting George Martin

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<v Speaker 2>the uh not George R. R. Martin, but the Beatles

436
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<v Speaker 2>who said, all you need is ears and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have to listen very carefully to everything and

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<v Speaker 2>be like and unfortunately in the day and age that

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<v Speaker 2>we're in, like you got to kind of listen to

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<v Speaker 2>it on different things, like listen to it in your

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<v Speaker 2>car and on your you know, to make sure everything

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<v Speaker 2>is like so let's sounding the same is where.

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<v Speaker 3>Mixes go to die.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that for a second, because experience that

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<v Speaker 1>and I have two thoughts about it. One it actually

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to another change in the production process when

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<v Speaker 1>we were all recording in person. Will have season one

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<v Speaker 1>fans will remember a credit additional mixing additional live mixing

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<v Speaker 1>by Karen Yang Karen doctor Lagrangiang. People will may may remember,

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<v Speaker 1>but if they don't, Karen was my student assistant when

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<v Speaker 1>she was a college student on my work podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>when we started mission rejected, particularly because Pete you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>available to come and do the first episode right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I can't direct it and listen, so

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<v Speaker 1>I need I need Karen, So I said, Karen, I

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<v Speaker 1>would you know, I'd love to hire you on the

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<v Speaker 1>side if you want to come and do this on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekends once a month, and she was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>excited to do it, and so we always had Karen

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<v Speaker 1>on headphones and she could be there to say to

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<v Speaker 1>you or me, I don't know, Chris sounds too distant,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, that didn't sound quite right, the levels

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<v Speaker 1>look off. That was so helpful, right, just to have

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<v Speaker 1>a second pariers. It's something I struggle with when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>directing over disc because of course, then you know we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing it all through which is not which is not

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<v Speaker 1>what the recording is going to sound like. Discord is

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<v Speaker 1>compressing it. There's a delay. So sometimes we get a

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<v Speaker 1>recording and it's much softer than it sounded on Discord.

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<v Speaker 1>It's much hotter, it's right. So that's a challenge, h

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. But I had a second point. I wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what it was. Oh, just the whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>of so when whenever Pete and John are working on

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<v Speaker 1>an episode, they'll be close to final draft or they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a first listenable draft, right, and sometimes we can

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<v Speaker 1>have three different reactions to it depending on So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, well, I listened on my really nice stereo

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<v Speaker 1>speakers and it sounded great, and John be like I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to my car and it sounded terrible, and Pete'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I listened on my computer and it was okay.

481
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<v Speaker 1>Or sometimes it'll be like, oh, I listened on my

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<v Speaker 1>really nice stereo speakers and it pointed out all the flaws,

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<v Speaker 1>or but I put it on my headphones and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounded great. So let's I know it's not it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a mystery, but like, how how do we

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<v Speaker 1>try and adjust for that? Because our audience are all

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<v Speaker 1>going to be listening on different things. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people will be listening on headphones, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>will be listening in their cars. Some people might put

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<v Speaker 1>it on their stereo or their computer or their TV.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, how do we adjust for all of that?

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<v Speaker 2>So do I optimize it for the car, which is

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<v Speaker 2>where many people are gonna be listening, or optimize it

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<v Speaker 2>across platform, or do I just keep it the way

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<v Speaker 2>it is and be like, if you're listening on headphones,

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<v Speaker 2>you're really getting what I was going for. And I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be honest, I don't land on one side of

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<v Speaker 2>that argument or another. Sometimes the show is a little

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little all over the place because like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>the episodes are streamlined to go in the car, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you're like, this is an effect that I really

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<v Speaker 2>want you to hear if you put on headphones and

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this whole show. I want you to hear

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<v Speaker 2>Minnie Magarette land on your shoulder.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't want to lose that because it's too cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that that is probably counter to like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to call it like a studio mentality

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<v Speaker 2>or like a mentality where you're like, I want it

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<v Speaker 2>to be the broadest possible audience. We want a broad audience.

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<v Speaker 2>We want this to reach as many people who enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>the story as possible. But sometimes you have to make

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<v Speaker 2>little compromises like that and be like this sounds better

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<v Speaker 2>on headphones, and I'm just gonna let it go because

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't sound bad in the car, right, But maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds a little too loud, or it's like something

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<v Speaker 2>disappears or something like that. You can't have something disappear entirely, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But these are all little compromises you have to make

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<v Speaker 2>in the fact that we live in an era when

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<v Speaker 2>not everybody is I guess if we go back to

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<v Speaker 2>where we started, like loving things like the time that

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<v Speaker 2>I think the three of us have a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a love for before we were born. Like not

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<v Speaker 2>everyone is sitting down with the family, turning on the

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<v Speaker 2>radio and like hearing it through their I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>Magna box, what the heck do they have back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day? But you know they're not listening to the

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<v Speaker 2>the trolla right around the So people are listening in

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<v Speaker 2>different ways. And there's the world in which you optimize

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<v Speaker 2>for all of them, or maximize for all of them,

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<v Speaker 2>or optimize for one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all to say, I am pushing very hard

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just making this announcement to the two of

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<v Speaker 1>you right now. Season six mixed in Dolby Atmos every episode.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, yep, we'll take it under thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are some of our challenges. Let's throw it back

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<v Speaker 1>over to the cast because someone had a question for

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<v Speaker 1>them about what was most challenging or most memorable about

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<v Speaker 1>their character in season five.

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<v Speaker 7>The second question is from August from Scotland. August asks

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<v Speaker 7>what is the most challenging part of playing your character

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<v Speaker 7>this season and what was the most fun thing you

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<v Speaker 7>got to do with them? Without a doubt, hands down,

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't even have to think about it. My most

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<v Speaker 7>fun thing my character did this season was the Christmas

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<v Speaker 7>Eve episode. It was absolutely delightful to record the episode

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<v Speaker 7>of Zelda getting Ebenezer scrooged, and as always, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>there was some there were some light emotional moments in it,

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<v Speaker 7>and I always love when I get to do that.

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<v Speaker 7>The most challenging part of playing my role this season

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<v Speaker 7>was actually had nothing to do with the character or

551
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<v Speaker 7>the writing, because the writing is always fantastic in my

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<v Speaker 7>humble opinion, and Zelda is always a delight to play.

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<v Speaker 7>The most challenging part actually was finding the time to

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<v Speaker 7>do the character and the writing the justice that I

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<v Speaker 7>felt it deserved this year. In particular, over this past season,

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<v Speaker 7>I have started traveling a lot for my job, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm super lucky that I get to do that. I

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<v Speaker 7>love to travel, It's something I have always wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 7>but it has put a little bit of a crimp

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<v Speaker 7>in my style as far as having the time to

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<v Speaker 7>do recording sessions. I don't always get to join the

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<v Speaker 7>the online read throughs that we do, and I missponding

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<v Speaker 7>with the cast, so that's really been the hardest part.

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<v Speaker 7>My schedule has left me sort of doing things in

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<v Speaker 7>a vacuum, sometimes feeling like I'm very last minute, and

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<v Speaker 7>if I had more time, or if I could go

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<v Speaker 7>to the read through with the cast, I'd feel more

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<v Speaker 7>connected and would be more satisfied with what I'm sending

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<v Speaker 7>out to the guys and to their end to page

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<v Speaker 7>and to their credit, no one has complained. They're all

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<v Speaker 7>very supportive and they give me awesome notes that I

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<v Speaker 7>can use whenever I get the time to sit down

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<v Speaker 7>and record something. And I hope that I'm able to

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<v Speaker 7>organize my life a little better in the future.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow, August, I get to play so many characters on

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<v Speaker 8>Mission Rejected, and that's one of the wonderful things about

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<v Speaker 8>my role, and as the Admiral, I think one of

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<v Speaker 8>the big challenges is finding the balance between the admiral

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<v Speaker 8>silliness and his seriousness, because he is certainly very silly.

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<v Speaker 8>He's a ridiculous character. He's always cracking jokes, he's always

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<v Speaker 8>like making a little sides, but he's also trying to

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<v Speaker 8>get revenge and he's very serious about what he does,

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<v Speaker 8>and so sometimes that just works, like he can be

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<v Speaker 8>silly and serious and that's maybe what makes him scary.

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<v Speaker 8>But finding the right balance is always a tough thing

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<v Speaker 8>with the Admiral and August for you and all of

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<v Speaker 8>our Scottish listeners out there, I loved playing Lord duncan

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<v Speaker 8>Land this season on episode five eight, Lord dunken Land.

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<v Speaker 8>I loved playing that and I loved I definitely took

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<v Speaker 8>I definitely took Sean Connery as a you know, an

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<v Speaker 8>influence for that, and you know, as like a sky

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<v Speaker 8>like spy. It seemed like it was right there to do,

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<v Speaker 8>like a Sean Connery. That was a really fun episode to do.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that a big challenge for me this season

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<v Speaker 8>was playing Zelda's father, thrash Anders, and instantly it's the

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<v Speaker 8>similar challenge that I had with playing Gannon, which was

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<v Speaker 8>also a character from Zelda's past, which is that both

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<v Speaker 8>of those characters really had a strong, you know, an

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<v Speaker 8>outlook that I didn't necessarily agree with and that's difficult

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<v Speaker 8>to play as an actor. And both of them had

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<v Speaker 8>their things that were kind of silly about them, and

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<v Speaker 8>normally I'm you know, kind of playing silly characters where

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<v Speaker 8>I can be very animated, and they have that too,

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<v Speaker 8>but they also have to be very serious about their

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<v Speaker 8>position and in a way that sets them apart from

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<v Speaker 8>the other characters, especially Zelda, particularly Zelda in these scenes,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's difficult to do, but it's a challenge that

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<v Speaker 8>I really like and something that I think is, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>really powerful for me as an actor to try to do.

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<v Speaker 5>More So, I think the most physically challenging part of

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<v Speaker 5>playing Gloria in any season is the fighting and the

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<v Speaker 5>action sequences. I always feel a little self conscious doing

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<v Speaker 5>it because I usually record in my apartment building and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure that my neighbors can hear me being very loud.

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<v Speaker 5>And also after five seasons, it's kind of hard to

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<v Speaker 5>come up with new ways to grunt and like yell

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<v Speaker 5>and karate chop. And also the scene in Golden Ear

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<v Speaker 5>this season on top of the Plane was tough for

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<v Speaker 5>similar reasons because, like I said, I live in an

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<v Speaker 5>apartment building, so yelling without like really yelling is challenging. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and then the most fun thing, it's tough because it's

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<v Speaker 5>really all fun. Yeah, it's all really fun. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think I'll say to answer the question in Noos is Off,

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<v Speaker 5>when Gloria is standing in for Cresceda and Boden's play,

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<v Speaker 5>it was fun to just kind of make her bad

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<v Speaker 5>at it. Like Gloria has become really competent over the years,

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<v Speaker 5>which is great, but I've always felt really strongly that

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<v Speaker 5>she should always be bad at some the things, no

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<v Speaker 5>matter how smart or trained she gets. And so one

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<v Speaker 5>of the things I've tried to do consistently is that

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<v Speaker 5>she's just a not a great actor performer. And I

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<v Speaker 5>really like that because acting is kind of Boden's things,

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<v Speaker 5>so their skills are just really well balanced and they

634
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 5>don't step on each other's toes. So if you listen back,

635
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 5>usually when Gloria is undercover as someone like other than

636
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:33.440
<v Speaker 5>someone who's super similar to her, she has like a

637
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 5>really over the top accent or like a ridiculous voice,

638
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 5>kind of like that's where Snazzi's splenda came from, or

639
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.239
<v Speaker 5>the Lady the Old Lady in the season one finale,

640
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.760
<v Speaker 5>like these are just kind of caricatury voices that aren't

641
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 5>like real people, and like that's just the best she

642
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 5>can do because she's not a great actress. So in

643
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.039
<v Speaker 5>Noos is Off, I got to explore this even more

644
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 5>because she's not approaching acting as like undercover work. She's

645
00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 5>approaching acting is like kind of an art and a craft,

646
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 5>and she knows what good acting is and she really

647
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 5>respects it, but she just like really doesn't have that

648
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.840
<v Speaker 5>in her in my head, so that was a fun

649
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 5>line to walk of her trying her hardest to be

650
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.519
<v Speaker 5>a good stage performer, but she's just really out of

651
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 5>her depth, and so it comes out as like broad

652
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 5>and overacted, and she's just she doesn't have it in

653
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:19.280
<v Speaker 5>the same way that Boden does, and that's one of

654
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 5>the things she loves and respects and admires so much

655
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:22.320
<v Speaker 5>about Boden too.

656
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:23.559
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

657
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:30.199
<v Speaker 10>I think the most challenging part for me was the

658
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.480
<v Speaker 10>tail end of the season, meeting Orville Granger for the

659
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.199
<v Speaker 10>first time. This is a moment that we've been building

660
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.199
<v Speaker 10>up to, I think, not just across season five, but

661
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 10>there have been kind of like, you know, little breadcrumbs

662
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.679
<v Speaker 10>in previous seasons hinting that Skip the character has this

663
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 10>sort of estranged relationship with his father, but clearly you know,

664
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.039
<v Speaker 10>it has very fun memories of his mother. So there

665
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 10>was kind of a lot writing on this, and I

666
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.760
<v Speaker 10>did a lot. Pete Barry, who does a lot of

667
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.320
<v Speaker 10>our sound editing, and other folks in the port know

668
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 10>that there were a lot of takes of a lot

669
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 10>of those lines between Skip and Orville, just doing my

670
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.119
<v Speaker 10>best to make sure that our producers had a rich

671
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 10>palette of things to choose from to hopefully stitch something together.

672
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 10>The most fun thing I got to do with Skip

673
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.880
<v Speaker 10>this season, I think has to be the Live and

674
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:23.159
<v Speaker 10>Let Dice. The Dungeons and Dragons episode especially gratifying for

675
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 10>me because on the side, in my personal life, I

676
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.079
<v Speaker 10>am a dungeon master for an actual campaign that has

677
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.119
<v Speaker 10>been running since twenty nineteen. It's at this point six

678
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:37.199
<v Speaker 10>years old, going on seven. One continuous campaign, one continuous

679
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 10>story from the cast here, j Michael and Paige have

680
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:45.400
<v Speaker 10>both been characters in it since twenty nineteen. So it

681
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:51.159
<v Speaker 10>was really really fun, invigorating, enjoyable, and satisfying to be

682
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 10>able to bring my love of that game and what

683
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.360
<v Speaker 10>it brings to my own friendships that are really near

684
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.320
<v Speaker 10>and dear to me to the show. It's just something

685
00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 10>that I hope Skip and the rest of the crew

686
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:05.239
<v Speaker 10>would actually enjoy together once they work through their kinks,

687
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:07.639
<v Speaker 10>and hopefully it is something that some of our listeners

688
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.920
<v Speaker 10>you know, that resonated with them too. What makes that

689
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.920
<v Speaker 10>game so special and so fun. Thanks for the question.

690
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 10>I also recognize, August, that episode took place in Scotland

691
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.599
<v Speaker 10>and you're asking from Scotland, so it didn't mean for it. Obviously,

692
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:24.920
<v Speaker 10>that would have been my answer regardless, but hopefully that

693
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.559
<v Speaker 10>answer hits home for you, if you will excuse the pun.

694
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

695
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.400
<v Speaker 4>I think that my answer for both parts of this

696
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:40.039
<v Speaker 4>question are the same. You know, Boden is a ball

697
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:44.199
<v Speaker 4>to play. He's this larger than life character and he

698
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 4>gets like twelve jokes an episode and it's phenomenal. But

699
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:56.280
<v Speaker 4>it's also really interesting when he's afforded opportunities to be vulnerable.

700
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 4>You know, he he does have this very guarded personality

701
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:08.920
<v Speaker 4>about his insecurities, and I think, like a lot of celebrities,

702
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.719
<v Speaker 4>he wants to present this very successful front and it's

703
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.880
<v Speaker 4>played to great comedic effect too, with all of the

704
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:19.719
<v Speaker 4>name dropping and the embellishing of his credentials and everything.

705
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 4>But you know, when he does drop that kind of

706
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.079
<v Speaker 4>actory facade that he greets the world with and gets

707
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:33.599
<v Speaker 4>to be kind of real with people. Unsurprisingly, most of

708
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 4>them are with Gloria, who is closest to But that's

709
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:41.400
<v Speaker 4>that's a joy to play because you get to explore

710
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:45.079
<v Speaker 4>a facet of a character and you see this very

711
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:49.880
<v Speaker 4>well rounded person underneath all that. It can be challenging.

712
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.480
<v Speaker 4>I think in that you got to work a little

713
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.880
<v Speaker 4>bit harder as an actor and dig a little bit

714
00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 4>deeper to strike the right chord. But you know, I

715
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 4>think nowhere else was at a parent than when Bowden

716
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.800
<v Speaker 4>and Gloria decide to get married. I love that scene

717
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 4>as I understand it. Page handled most of the dialogue

718
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:14.360
<v Speaker 4>in there, and I think she knocked it out of

719
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 4>the ballpark. I hope my acting rose to the level

720
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 4>of both the writing and the acting in that scene.

721
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.440
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I think that scene in particular in this

722
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.679
<v Speaker 4>season was both the most challenging but absolutely the most rewarding.

723
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:33.840
<v Speaker 9>I don't I want to say there are a lot

724
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:39.920
<v Speaker 9>of challenging parts because we have so much fun. I

725
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:43.119
<v Speaker 9>love the absurdity of the things that our characters are doing.

726
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:47.480
<v Speaker 9>But there was one part. It was the episode where

727
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:53.559
<v Speaker 9>they found all these missing objects from the theater in

728
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:59.280
<v Speaker 9>the underground sewers. I thought that was so gross, just

729
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:04.960
<v Speaker 9>even them talking about it. Just the image of being

730
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:10.639
<v Speaker 9>calf deep in human waste, that's exactly how it was written,

731
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:19.519
<v Speaker 9>was just gross. Like truly, and I'm pretty sure McGrath

732
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 9>was gagging throughout those scenes. It was real. The more

733
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:27.440
<v Speaker 9>I thought about it while we were recording it, the

734
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:31.159
<v Speaker 9>more I felt sick. So even though it was funny,

735
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.559
<v Speaker 9>I couldn't wait for that part to be over. But

736
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.440
<v Speaker 9>it was really funny. But even listening to it, I

737
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 9>was like, oh God, we really sold it. They sound nauseated,

738
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 9>all right, And what was the most fun thing you

739
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 9>got to do with your character this season? So the

740
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 9>most fun thing I got to do with McGrath, I

741
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.320
<v Speaker 9>think it was the whole episode where they went to

742
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:02.400
<v Speaker 9>the Olympics when they were in Paris. I personally love

743
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 9>the Olympics. I always get super giddy and excited every

744
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 9>four years when it's time again. I love the fact

745
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 9>that she hated the Olympics, and she had her reasons.

746
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 9>I totally understand. But I also always love when she

747
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:24.079
<v Speaker 9>gets the torture Boden and all the scenes where she

748
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:28.719
<v Speaker 9>was totally overtraining him and over extending him and he

749
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 9>had to practice with all these professional athletes. It was

750
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 9>just really fun to boss him around. And I don't

751
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.440
<v Speaker 9>know all the jokes were I think landing pretty well

752
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 9>at least in my head. I hope everybody feels the

753
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 9>same way. Yeah, I would say that was one of

754
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:53.719
<v Speaker 9>the most fun moments, even though again I could pick

755
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:59.679
<v Speaker 9>so many others, so many even like the first episode

756
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:05.280
<v Speaker 9>of this season where McGrath gets to execute her plan

757
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:11.039
<v Speaker 9>with Skip without the others knowing it was it was

758
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.239
<v Speaker 9>really fun to know that they have a little secret

759
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.639
<v Speaker 9>code language between them. They know what's going on, but

760
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:21.719
<v Speaker 9>they can't really reveal it to anybody else yet. That

761
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 9>was so fun. I mean, all of it is so fun,

762
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:25.079
<v Speaker 9>so so fun.

763
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

764
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:33.440
<v Speaker 9>Wow, Oh my goodness, how can I forget Mini McGrath.

765
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:38.159
<v Speaker 9>It was one of the highlights of the season. Minie

766
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:41.320
<v Speaker 9>McGrath was one of the highlights of the season with

767
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:46.480
<v Speaker 9>all her cuteness. And I think we left after every

768
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 9>line of Minie McGrath all of us.

769
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Wow, all right, well, sounds like we really put the

770
00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 1>cast through the ringer as usual. We've got two more

771
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:06.559
<v Speaker 1>questions for us. One I think is really for me.

772
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Remy from New Jersey, ass what came first? The baby

773
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 1>whale song on Mission Rejected or the baby Whale quest

774
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:20.559
<v Speaker 1>In Chris Kleinecki's D and D Game. Yes, So Remy

775
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:25.679
<v Speaker 1>is a friend of ours who participates in Chris Klinecki's

776
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Dungeons and Dragons game. Chris is an amazing DM I play.

777
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>His game page is in the game, Bob is in

778
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:40.039
<v Speaker 1>the game. So it is a mission rejected heavy game.

779
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>And as a nod to that, we have had a

780
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>long running side quest for my character to raise enough

781
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>gold to buy a baby whale that's going to take

782
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:56.599
<v Speaker 1>us to tor Atlantis. So yes, rebby the gag on

783
00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:01.360
<v Speaker 1>mission rejected came first. Mission rejected predates the D and

784
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:02.840
<v Speaker 1>D game by about two years.

785
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 3>So I had no idea baby Whale made it into

786
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Christmas D and DA.

787
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Yes and Chris put that in as a little mission

788
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:14.920
<v Speaker 1>rejected Easter egg for for me and the other players.

789
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 2>So that is you want to hear the origin story

790
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 2>of baby Whale itself?

791
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 6>Go back to the season one. Well right, we did,

792
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 6>and well you'll hear all of this.

793
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, well this is not a fan question, but this conversation,

794
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 1>uh does make me think, Pete, you have, as always

795
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:37.559
<v Speaker 1>had to write some additional original music this season. So

796
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:41.760
<v Speaker 1>what what special songs we have? You did Dungeons and

797
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Dragons music.

798
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 6>The Dungeons Dragons was fun.

799
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:45.880
<v Speaker 1>You did Christmas music?

800
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.280
<v Speaker 6>Is that? Is that it? So I'll go through it

801
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 6>an order because that's how my brain works. Five one,

802
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:55.880
<v Speaker 6>five or two.

803
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much recycled the old songs, despite the fact that

804
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 2>some people were like, shoot, be a dark emf.

805
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:02.719
<v Speaker 6>Theme sight and I'm like, I don't know what.

806
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.079
<v Speaker 2>In five o three I had to write the theme

807
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 2>song to uh Naked in Dismayed or whatever the heck

808
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 2>the show was after a couple of jungle drums and whatever,

809
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you know it was. It was cheesy, like, you know,

810
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was.

811
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:23.239
<v Speaker 6>I also write and add I think for the music are.

812
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh five oh four wrote the Murder she plays your

813
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Murder yes, which you know again I don't want to

814
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.679
<v Speaker 2>maybe you cut this for the Patreon bonus, but like

815
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Mike and I are trying to figure out a way

816
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 2>to maybe write the you know, the spin off that

817
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.800
<v Speaker 2>was promised of the Murder. She wrote, you know, spoof

818
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.280
<v Speaker 2>with test Thatcher. But I was like, well, I kind

819
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 2>of really want to have a good theme song for

820
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:52.360
<v Speaker 2>that show if we go to it, and you know,

821
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.280
<v Speaker 2>it's very murder. She wrote rip off, But like that

822
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.639
<v Speaker 2>was the idea that they just supposed to be envisioning

823
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 2>that then forgot wrote. You know what, there's not much

824
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>of it. I think I wrote a little bit of

825
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:04.719
<v Speaker 2>a Oh no, I'm wrong, I'm entirely wrong.

826
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:05.519
<v Speaker 6>John.

827
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Did you get a fanfare for uh Campbellton the musical?

828
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Which I completely Oh yeah, that overture we pulled.

829
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.320
<v Speaker 6>We pulled that, So I'm not gonna say credit for

830
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:19.119
<v Speaker 6>the overture. I didn't write. I just remembered it was

831
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:19.480
<v Speaker 6>in there.

832
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh five oh six, I'm pretty sure we used the

833
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 2>usual stuff, right. It was action music, but but it's

834
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 2>the same old cann stuff I believe.

835
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

836
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Five oh seven was the wait the Sergabian national theme song.

837
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>John Anthem gave me the assignment, can you write the

838
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:40.639
<v Speaker 2>national theme song of ser Gabia?

839
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Also make it the worst song you ever heard? Its

840
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:49.199
<v Speaker 3>thumbs up and I had that I wrote it in

841
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 3>a made up Sergabian language.

842
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

843
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:54.079
<v Speaker 2>My favorite part of the song is where I just

844
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:56.079
<v Speaker 2>decided that they were just to degenerate into going.

845
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:58.360
<v Speaker 6>Fight fight fight, fight, fight, fight.

846
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Which I decided the word for in Sergabia was brought,

847
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:03.719
<v Speaker 2>which I did not realize was German for bread bread.

848
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:06.360
<v Speaker 2>So someone later was like, did you know that you're

849
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.960
<v Speaker 2>just singing bread, bread, bread, bread, bread.

850
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 6>Over over again.

851
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:13.519
<v Speaker 3>If they were Germany, that's right, yes.

852
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 6>But this is I did you know.

853
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.760
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't believe how meticulous I got with that. By

854
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:19.800
<v Speaker 2>the way, I was like J. R. R. Tolkien like,

855
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:24.280
<v Speaker 2>and the etymology of the word in Sir Gabian comes

856
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:24.760
<v Speaker 2>from the web.

857
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it sounds like a great blog entry.

858
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Pete, absolutely, yeah, so and then oh wait, it was

859
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 2>the D and D one, which not only came with

860
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the songs, but like I also that I usually either

861
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.719
<v Speaker 2>go to freesound dot org or I go to or

862
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I make my own sound effects, Like I'm very passionate

863
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:47.519
<v Speaker 2>about making our own sound effects for the show, except

864
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 2>in the cases when we can't really get them. But

865
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:54.079
<v Speaker 2>in that case, I actually wanted a different quality of

866
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:56.920
<v Speaker 2>sound effect because I wanted the D and D sound

867
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 2>effects to be like more cartoony and more sounding like

868
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:04.960
<v Speaker 2>they were canned sound effects. They were free, they were

869
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 2>they were public domain sound effects, but they were much

870
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 2>more of like pro and sound effects that to get

871
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:14.400
<v Speaker 2>those those sword slashes.

872
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 6>And spells and whatever.

873
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Because I wanted a qualitative difference between the sounds that

874
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:20.239
<v Speaker 2>were going on in the D and D universe as

875
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:20.800
<v Speaker 2>opposed to.

876
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 6>The actual world.

877
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:26.159
<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, five oh nine, no extra music, five

878
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:28.440
<v Speaker 2>ten I might, yeah, I wrote a little write. I

879
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 2>wrote a little museum theme, right John to go into

880
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.639
<v Speaker 2>the spy Museum. And then five eleven was, oh wait,

881
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:38.280
<v Speaker 2>there's one more. So five eleven was that great Christmas music.

882
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I thought it was great. I hope

883
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.719
<v Speaker 2>you enjoyed it, but I enjoyed making the Christmas music.

884
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 2>And the one thing I like about always doing the

885
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:52.079
<v Speaker 2>alternate mission rejected themes is that mission rejected theme itself.

886
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Is in two sections.

887
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, You've got the the orchestra section and the like

888
00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the big band section, and then you've got the marimba section,

889
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.760
<v Speaker 2>the quieter one. So every time I do a new theme,

890
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I have to decide what are the two parts of yes, right,

891
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:09.400
<v Speaker 2>so like the Halloween theme is like big, you know,

892
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.599
<v Speaker 2>booming haunted house thing and then stranger things, right, that's

893
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:14.599
<v Speaker 2>the that's the contrast of like what.

894
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 6>Exactly.

895
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:20.280
<v Speaker 2>And then the Dungeon and Dragons one I had to

896
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.679
<v Speaker 2>write a theme, right, there was a dungeon dragon theme song.

897
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:26.039
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's like very like again, Goblin army

898
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 2>coming for you, and then like the the the angelic

899
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:35.239
<v Speaker 2>like creepy crypt like right for Christmas. I think it's

900
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:38.320
<v Speaker 2>like a sleigh bell right, It's like it's like sleigh.

901
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.079
<v Speaker 6>Ride that that.

902
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 1>That and then the second part is like Carol of

903
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the Bells.

904
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:45.559
<v Speaker 6>It's Carol the Bells. That's right, That's what it was,

905
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:46.199
<v Speaker 6>Carol the Bells.

906
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but then I forgot also the last part of

907
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the season, Uh that I had to write the Admiral playing.

908
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 6>The orchid.

909
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:59.320
<v Speaker 2>And Mike, Mike put so many he's like, and then

910
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.840
<v Speaker 2>we play all public debate Christmas call. So I had

911
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the admil play.

912
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:03.039
<v Speaker 6>And the thing.

913
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>It was very Yes, I can't say exactly what motivated me,

914
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:13.400
<v Speaker 1>but when I was writing five or eleven, I wrote

915
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:20.119
<v Speaker 1>very specific music cues for the transitions. There was a

916
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:25.079
<v Speaker 1>certain method to my madness because we were traveling in time,

917
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:30.320
<v Speaker 1>much like we did in the other Zelda flashback episode

918
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Les right where we had Boden was what was switching

919
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:40.679
<v Speaker 1>us back and forth. But this is Zelda hallucinating that

920
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:44.679
<v Speaker 1>she's moving in and out of time, and then we're

921
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:49.320
<v Speaker 1>moving between scenes within those timelines. So I had to

922
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:54.320
<v Speaker 1>come up with a way to kind of signify what

923
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:58.559
<v Speaker 1>was what, and so the scene transitions I said should

924
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.360
<v Speaker 1>be Christmas carols, and then I just then I just

925
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>started dictating what I wanted those to be right, and

926
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 1>we stayed. You stuck pretty close to it, and I

927
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:07.679
<v Speaker 1>was really happy with it.

928
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 2>But oh right, so there's a there's a Rats Dominion version.

929
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:12.280
<v Speaker 2>It's not Rats Dominion, but there's like.

930
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.079
<v Speaker 1>A yeah, yeah, so I also that's that's right. That

931
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:18.559
<v Speaker 1>part of it was you had to establish what time

932
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 1>you were moving into. So when they go to Zelda's

933
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:26.039
<v Speaker 1>punk rock past, it's a punk rock version of got

934
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Rescu married John. Yeah, it was. And then when you're

935
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:33.039
<v Speaker 1>moving into the present and you're underwater, it's the Admiral

936
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 1>on the organ.

937
00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, which is one of my favorites, because I like

938
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.840
<v Speaker 2>it's a it's it starts off real dramatic, because I

939
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:41.480
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be like the joke being like, oh it's

940
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:43.760
<v Speaker 2>an It's like it's you know, twenty thousand leagues of

941
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:45.320
<v Speaker 2>the sea. It's like he's playing the organ, and then

942
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.039
<v Speaker 2>it goes into this like as much as the best

943
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 2>I can describe it is it is a baseball park

944
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:57.280
<v Speaker 2>version of Hark the Herald Angels sing. It's just like, yeah, dude,

945
00:54:57.760 --> 00:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>did I'm like, I imagine the little old man at

946
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the with his hot dog at the ballpark being like.

947
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:08.679
<v Speaker 1>It was. And then there was there was Studia Baker's

948
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Lab has a fish fish.

949
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:15.159
<v Speaker 6>Version of Oh my God, what was it? God?

950
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:21.280
<v Speaker 2>RESHI Mary Gentlemen or something like that was also amazing. Yeah,

951
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.039
<v Speaker 2>that just like it's so much fun. And I want

952
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:25.119
<v Speaker 2>to say amazing. I'm not saying the product is amazing.

953
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:27.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying the process of making these songs is like, Okay,

954
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:31.280
<v Speaker 2>what is Studi Baker's theme party?

955
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.599
<v Speaker 1>I think we I guess we actually did. Uh. There

956
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:39.320
<v Speaker 1>was The other one was the opening where Chet's at

957
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the White House Christmas tree lighting. It is the US

958
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Marine Band. We actually thought those.

959
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Really good actors, uh impersonating Quaid brothers.

960
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 1>You know. John recently sent something to me from one

961
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:58.599
<v Speaker 1>of those pod tracking sites that list last lists Randy

962
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and Dennis Quaid as a pure as themselves as guests

963
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:04.239
<v Speaker 1>in five five eleven.

964
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:05.840
<v Speaker 6>Do we need to do something?

965
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Well?

966
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:07.960
<v Speaker 6>Someone someone nailed it.

967
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:11.400
<v Speaker 1>We need so good that they couldn't tell so but

968
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.159
<v Speaker 1>so for that we actually, because it's in the public domain,

969
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:15.159
<v Speaker 1>we were able to use the.

970
00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:18.360
<v Speaker 6>Relay.

971
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:20.719
<v Speaker 3>You can use it because the song is in the

972
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:23.599
<v Speaker 3>public domain and it's the answer.

973
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:28.280
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, we've come to our last question. I

974
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:30.800
<v Speaker 1>think this one will be fairly easy to answer. Now

975
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:34.199
<v Speaker 1>watch two hours later, we'll see, we'll see if I

976
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:38.199
<v Speaker 1>was right or not. Once again, Kim from Virginia asked,

977
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:41.159
<v Speaker 1>how long does it take to record an episode? You know,

978
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:49.800
<v Speaker 1>we block uh, four hours to record with the main cast.

979
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we do it, unless sometimes we run over. But

980
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:58.559
<v Speaker 1>let's say four hours and we record on the penn

981
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:01.039
<v Speaker 1>ultimate Sunday of the month, the second to last Sunday

982
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 1>of the month, and it comes out the last Friday

983
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:08.639
<v Speaker 1>of the next month. So essentially it takes a month

984
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to put an episode together. That's not counting the time

985
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:16.400
<v Speaker 1>it takes to write it and get it. But from

986
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the record date to the release date is about a month,

987
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:24.199
<v Speaker 1>and so four hours with the cast, an hour here

988
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:26.559
<v Speaker 1>or there, two hours if it's somebody like when we

989
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:30.280
<v Speaker 1>did Og we spent two hours with him on five twelve.

990
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:33.639
<v Speaker 1>It was a bigger thing. I spent you know, an

991
00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:37.000
<v Speaker 1>hour or so with David doing Terry Millionaire. But it

992
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>all adds, it all adds up. So it's it's I

993
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:44.719
<v Speaker 1>would say ten hours of recording time and then at

994
00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:48.760
<v Speaker 1>least you know, multiples of that in editing.

995
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:51.519
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so it depends, it changes from episodes of

996
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:53.639
<v Speaker 2>the episode, but it is a lot of time.

997
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that the care that both of you

998
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>put into the post production and really shows the show

999
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:07.519
<v Speaker 1>sounds great. It was another delightful year. I can't wait

1000
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to dive into season six. Thank you all for sending

1001
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.679
<v Speaker 1>in these great questions. Thanks to our cast for their

1002
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.760
<v Speaker 1>thoughtful answers on those the questions that were aimed at them.

1003
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:23.679
<v Speaker 1>We've got a bit of a hiatus still to go.

1004
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:27.320
<v Speaker 1>We've got a lot of exciting things planned to fill

1005
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:30.119
<v Speaker 1>the hiatus, none of which are in a place to

1006
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:34.679
<v Speaker 1>be announced yet, unfortunately, but we are trust us. We

1007
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:38.760
<v Speaker 1>are working on some really fun things that are going

1008
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to launch us into season six, things we've been wanting

1009
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.519
<v Speaker 1>to do for a long time, and some new ideas

1010
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that we're looking forward to. So please stay tuned. There's

1011
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:48.679
<v Speaker 1>going to be a lot. We'll announce it on our

1012
00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>socials and of course on our Patreon. So thank you

1013
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.440
<v Speaker 1>both for your time today, Thanks for your hard work

1014
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:58.559
<v Speaker 1>on season five, and we'll see you season six.

1015
00:58:58.599 --> 00:58:59.519
<v Speaker 6>Everybody out there.

1016
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to do the behind the scenes episode

1017
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:06.639
<v Speaker 1>of season six, all about how we adapted Dolby at

1018
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:17.360
<v Speaker 1>most can't Hey, everybody, Michael was one more quick thing.

1019
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Just a reminder that.

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00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:22.679
<v Speaker 11>Patreon Networks got a forty five minutes longer version of

1021
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.199
<v Speaker 11>this episode, So if that's the kind of thing you're into,

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<v Speaker 11>be sure to join us there at www dot patreon

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<v Speaker 1>Splash mission richected.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just here to look pretty and tight and answer

1026
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<v Speaker 3>questions jon Zy Eye can't

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<v Speaker 8>Another quality podcast from the port Room
