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<v Speaker 1>It is that time again, two time without Torner West

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a Turner. We count it all joy for

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<v Speaker 1>us to be together with you on this day. Although

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<v Speaker 1>so much is happening in our nation and in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to keep you focused on truth time, understanding

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<v Speaker 1>the situation as it is, and the situation as it

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<v Speaker 1>can be, fighting with love, with hope, and with joy.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of fighting, doctor Wes, here we go. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump left the G seven some early, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of saying some things are in store. We're hearing rumblings

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<v Speaker 1>that he may decide to send the troops into war

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<v Speaker 1>in the Middle East. Now, those of us who understand

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<v Speaker 1>the Constitution understand that the President of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>of America does not have the authority to send our

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<v Speaker 1>troops into war without the consent of the Congress. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are several Congress members making that known loudly and

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<v Speaker 1>clearly in both chambers, both the Senate and the House,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope to God they continue to press on.

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<v Speaker 1>It just really boggles my mind, Doc, how people can

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<v Speaker 1>just cavalierly send other folks, loved ones to war without

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<v Speaker 1>even giving it a second thought. And it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>our war. Calling on Black Jesus with the sandals on.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one I'm calling on. What is on your heart,

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<v Speaker 1>your soul, and your mind on this day?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I begin with joy, I begin with counting my blessings,

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of gratitude that helps me with my attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>So I confine to an altitude of swinging for love,

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<v Speaker 2>justice and peace. But peace with justice. We don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to know peace with just un injustice and disorder. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to salute La Progressive. You may have

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<v Speaker 2>seen that wonderful peace saluting brother Tabs, and it showed

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<v Speaker 2>my sister staring gile Yes. Powerful Peace is a beautiful piece.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a truthful piece, and there's a wonderful line

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<v Speaker 2>in that piece what she says that brother Tavis, somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>vision and courage has managed to create a context in

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<v Speaker 2>which Black truth is centered and respected and engaged. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's very important because at a moment in which THEI

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<v Speaker 2>is being trashed, at a moment which they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>erase eliminate Black history, they're trying to degrade Black people,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course his tenth anniversary where they're killing and

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<v Speaker 2>murdering precious black people. In the manual, Ami church there

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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina, that brother Tabs is still at it, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course Tavish does it collectively, all the wonderful voices

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<v Speaker 2>and all the wonderful staff there k e La fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty right there at the Murty Park on the Chocolate

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<v Speaker 2>side of Chocolate Center, say of loss at and and

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<v Speaker 2>of course both of us are so blessed to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to work with him. And of course I'm deeply

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<v Speaker 2>blessed to work with you. He lend you that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling the world that I was just talking to my

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<v Speaker 2>beloved wife Ana heat the Saint Lord have mercy to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to spend these days with my dear sister

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<v Speaker 2>Nina is a It's a beautiful thing and it just

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<v Speaker 2>boys us up. We're willing to speak the truth about

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<v Speaker 2>the genocide God, speak the truth about master incarceration at home,

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<v Speaker 2>speak the truth about what's going on in the rock

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<v Speaker 2>under the Moolers and the Woman Life Freedom movement, but

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<v Speaker 2>also recognizing that the war that has been initiated by

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<v Speaker 2>Israel is a violation of their sovereignty, but it goes

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<v Speaker 2>hand in hand with the violation the sovereignties of Syria

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<v Speaker 2>of Lebanon that we've seen over and over again in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the Israeli incursions violations international law. But it

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<v Speaker 2>seems as if when it comes to the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Israel, international law, don't not that

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<v Speaker 2>human rights doesn't mean anything at all. Kill as many

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinians as you want in terms of innocence civilians. Come

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<v Speaker 2>up with your rationalization and keep doing and it's just wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>and it would be wrong, of course if we were

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<v Speaker 2>done against Jews. Is wrong when it's Palestinians, is wrong

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<v Speaker 2>when it's done against in the body sou these congoleates,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever whoever it is. And that's what it means, I

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<v Speaker 2>think to engage Black truth. And we just think rather

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<v Speaker 2>tablets for having the courage and vision of facilitating these

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of conversations so freely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amen to all of that. Doctor. You know in

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<v Speaker 1>the Black church. When the preacher has preached the church

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<v Speaker 1>says a man, a man the four year anniversary? Who

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<v Speaker 1>is happening is this this week? Hello? And I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be there, Jesse Jackson Junior, have been jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so many people are going to be there

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<v Speaker 1>this week to celebrate and uplift the four year anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>or KBLA talk fifteen eighty can I believe four years

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<v Speaker 1>old already and thanks to the vision of brother Tavis

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<v Speaker 1>Smiley and all who work with him and for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes teamwork to make anybody's dream work, and Tavis

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<v Speaker 1>Smiley has a team. And the uplift of black people

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<v Speaker 1>as you laid out, Doc, and the uplift of humanity

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<v Speaker 1>in general. It is truly a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. It really is the main ful we

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<v Speaker 2>the Tavis and the others have such a profound love

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<v Speaker 2>for Black people that spills over to love for everybody

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<v Speaker 2>and manifest in allowing all is to be lifted, allowing yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>roast the.

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<v Speaker 3>Board on it, but it's zero humanity, the activity and

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<v Speaker 3>the dignity of black that's a the badly needed thing

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<v Speaker 3>at a moment where the attacks and assaults on black people.

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<v Speaker 2>And brown immigrants and Palestine rounds and others are intensifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we needed it. Starts with I mean, I firmly

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<v Speaker 1>believe that the liberation of all marginalized and working class

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<v Speaker 1>people from all background starts with the absolute liberation of

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<v Speaker 1>Black people right here in America. And there, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>the diasporas you have been naming out some of the

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<v Speaker 1>suffering that's going on in diaspora. Doc, you and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked countless times about what the Scramble for Africa did generationally,

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<v Speaker 1>the ripple effects of white supremacy across the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>how when black folks are liberated, everybody else is liberating.

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<v Speaker 1>That liberation is coming. They're listening to Truth Time with

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Cornell West and Nina Turner. When we come forward,

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<v Speaker 1>we will continue this conversation right now we are together.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is storming in Cleveland, Ohio right now on

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<v Speaker 1>our viewers, our listeners to know that just in case

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<v Speaker 1>that we abruptly get disconnected for some reason, and me

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<v Speaker 1>is thundering, lightning touring down Rain. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Nature is saying, yeah, some some ain't right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with all the thunder and the lightning. But here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So that Donald J. Trump, President Trump exits the G

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<v Speaker 1>seven summit a day early. You have a French president

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<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Macrome claiming that the US that that President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is considering the prospect of a ceasefire between Israel and Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>that indeed would be a beautiful thing. Let us not forget.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump ran on being anti war. LA's number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two. He does not again have the constitutional right

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<v Speaker 1>to send our troops into war without the consent of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States Congress. So Macrone is describing the interchange

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<v Speaker 1>as something that's positive. I hope, I hope, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that that is absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 2>War.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't war our way to peace. Doc. This is imminent.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that everybody is going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>be concerned about, whether it's directly or indirectly impacting you.

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<v Speaker 1>War will have an impact on the United States America.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if we you know, even if the Congress does

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<v Speaker 1>not authorize sending troops in it's still going to impact

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<v Speaker 1>the United States of America and other countries as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ever going to be just this isolated thing, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>only the two parties Iran and Israel, and so people

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<v Speaker 1>got a ready in their minds that we remember Iraq, Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, all of these things are very fresh because

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<v Speaker 1>they're very young. They almost just happened when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about the continuum of history, and I just don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just having so many leaders that are very

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<v Speaker 1>cavalier about it. We had mentioned even yesterday that these

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<v Speaker 1>who called Republicans who believe in America first, where they at,

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<v Speaker 1>where they at. I want to hear from them, American

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<v Speaker 1>First Republicans especially, and overall I want to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>a United States Congress that refuses to adjucate this responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>to any president, this one or any other president when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to war powers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very, very real. Now It's true. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>got Chucker Carlson and Steve Bannon and even Marjorie Green

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<v Speaker 2>starting to raise certain critical voices. Yeah, America first to

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<v Speaker 2>an isolation, is positioned over against the war. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think we do have to recognize that because America and

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<v Speaker 2>Israel are so inextricably interwoven that Israel could not do

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<v Speaker 2>what it does without a green light from Trump. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no way they could run without a green light from Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>And we even know about the three hundred hell fire

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<v Speaker 2>miss early last week that are being used. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>using American military equipment in the various attacks in the

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<v Speaker 2>same way that Israel could not engage in the genocide

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<v Speaker 2>and ethnic cleansing in Gaza with without an American green light.

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<v Speaker 2>And all Trump has to do is just say stop.

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<v Speaker 2>He either gets humiliated by Nathan Yahoo or they stop.

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<v Speaker 2>And the chances are they stopped because the Israeli army,

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<v Speaker 2>as powerful as it is, cannot survive over a long

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<v Speaker 2>period of time without US support, US fishment of supplies.

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<v Speaker 2>So in that sense, the United States is already a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the war that just no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you think about the I mean a nuclear weapon issue,

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<v Speaker 2>that does ron have a nuclear weapon? No, Gabert just

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<v Speaker 2>gave her intelligence report just a couple of months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Say no, they don't. How close to well, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>really really know. That's true. We really don't know. There's

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<v Speaker 2>only nine nations in the world that have nuclear weapons, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You got Russia has about fifty five hundred, United States

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<v Speaker 2>got two hundred hundred. Then you got and she got England,

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<v Speaker 2>you got got India, you got North Korea. Now Israel

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<v Speaker 2>has more than North Korea. Actually, but they never said.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you asked any US president, you asked any

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<v Speaker 2>is Israeli president, do you have nuclear weapons? They refuse

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<v Speaker 2>to answer the question. But everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was refusing. The answer is The answer is.

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<v Speaker 2>South Africa had it, but Mandela dismantled it. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because South Africa had it in part because of

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<v Speaker 2>the collaborate with Israel. The Israel was willing to collaborate

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<v Speaker 2>on a nuclear weapon with apartheid South Africa that would

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<v Speaker 2>drop the bomb on Africans. When it comes to Iran

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<v Speaker 2>and their weapon that wants to drop the bomb on them,

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<v Speaker 2>they say, no, we understand that we don't want anybody

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<v Speaker 2>drop the bombs on Israelis, or Africans, or Germans or

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<v Speaker 2>any or indigenous peoples of anybody else. I'm actually with

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<v Speaker 2>Albert Einstein. I'm for nuclear dismantlement across the board. But

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<v Speaker 2>you got twelve thousand of them out there in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're gonna do. But all of this rationalization

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<v Speaker 2>for this kind of ugly invasion and military imposition on

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<v Speaker 2>innocent peoples, be the in Gaza, or be there in

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<v Speaker 2>on the West Bank, or be there in Iran anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it has to be radically called into question.

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<v Speaker 2>It just seems to.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, Yeah, definitely. And what you're outlining really is the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between tomato tomato in terms of how we latest

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<v Speaker 1>thing out. The United States is already in it. There

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<v Speaker 1>just has not been a declaration of war coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the United States of America, so they playing in our face.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Corbin over there in the UK has weighed in

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<v Speaker 1>on this. He said, I asked the Foreign Secretary a

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<v Speaker 1>straightforward question. Are British weapons being used by Israel to bomb?

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<v Speaker 1>I ran ask them a straightforward question, Jeremy, the Honorable

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Corbyn goes on. He refused the answer. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>You refuse the answer, So we know what the answer is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, and thank God for strong leaders like Jeremy Corbyn, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to get the truth, like all of us. And

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<v Speaker 2>the truth is bigger than all of us. See. The

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<v Speaker 2>they little partisan position, rationalize their policy. The truth is

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we do, we do.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to know what the truth is. Who is zooming?

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<v Speaker 2>Who of breath has said.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sick, that's who's zooming? Who amen? Amen to that?

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<v Speaker 1>We got Senator Bernard Sanders in the House. The Constitution

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States is very clear. There is no ambiguity.

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<v Speaker 1>action against Iran. Amen, Amen and amen that those are

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those are the facts, doctors is irrefutable. That's

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<v Speaker 2>No, we salute brother Bernie. And I know if Tim

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<v Speaker 2>when the courts come through and try to enforce it.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're reaching a point where courts are going to

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<v Speaker 2>will not do it, and he's already done it implicitly

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<v Speaker 2>with the planes going to El Salvador taking the precious

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<v Speaker 2>immigrants and so forth. But I'm talking about major clash.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they say, well, we finally got a constitutional

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<v Speaker 2>but it becomes undeniable when you get a major clash

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<v Speaker 2>and We're gonna get that on the war too, because

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<v Speaker 2>America's already in the war the genocide against gods as

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<v Speaker 1>And the National Guard. They're questioning whether the National Guard

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be there more permanently than expected. For some,

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely So we just got to keep telling the truth,

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<v Speaker 2>keep fighting. That's the bottom line. But it's getting dimmer

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<v Speaker 2>every day, grimmar every day, bleaker every day. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>still our courage, and it's still integrity and truth teller.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that all of that, all of that some bright life.

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<v Speaker 1>prohibit us involvement in the Israeli Iran war. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not our war, even if it were, Congress must decide

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<v Speaker 1>such matters according to our constitution. So when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>word by partisanship around just to kind of it's like

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<v Speaker 1>they're working together bipartisanly, so that makes it all right.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been a lot of bad bipartisan things that

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<v Speaker 1>the Congress has done that was bad. This one right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Representive Thomas Massy, I never thought I would say it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you go, you go, you and Representative Rocanna, who's

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna put that out there right now. So

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<v Speaker 1>happy that Congressman Rocanna is stepping out. He's been stepping

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<v Speaker 1>out against these forever wars, and it is really really

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<v Speaker 1>good to see him and Representative Thomas Massey introduce a

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<v Speaker 1>they called it what it is, the Israel Iran war.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not our war. Now. They can say those

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<v Speaker 1>things and technically they're right, but and I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>it our war. But we understand what he's saying. He's right,

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<v Speaker 1>this ain't our war, but covertly the United States is

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<v Speaker 1>complicit because, as you laid out, Doc, Prime Minister, that

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that. I mean, I'm glad to see

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<v Speaker 2>Congress having some life. I mean they've been literally, symbolically

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<v Speaker 2>and often dictatorial moves of Trump and company. But it

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<v Speaker 2>might be too little, too late, because they would have

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<v Speaker 2>already it aired. They say Congress must approve the involvement.

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<v Speaker 1>They already involved involved. Yeah, yeah, that's that that little

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<v Speaker 1>you know that we're taking the truth. You know how

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<v Speaker 1>when you go to court, you got to testify, you

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<v Speaker 1>whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So hope you

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<v Speaker 1>got you and I are and that nothing but the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>So help us God. And we need our audience to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that the US is involved, even if it's unofficially,

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<v Speaker 1>we are absolutely involved. As Deanna bo Jeremy Corbyn asked

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<v Speaker 1>about about Great Britain, he didn't get an answer. They're involved. Too,

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<v Speaker 1>So you got these Western nations back in this play.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's exactly right. I think what we have to

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<v Speaker 2>Is if we are powerless and impotent. Yeah, can't stop genocide,

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<v Speaker 2>can't war, can't stop mass incarceration, can't start grotesque wealth, inequality,

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<v Speaker 2>can't stop corporate greed. We can talk about it, organized fried,

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<v Speaker 2>but we still we haven't stopped it. We haven't stopped it. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean we give up, but we gotta be honest

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<v Speaker 2>about ourselves. Yeah, we do, truthful about our own will

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<v Speaker 1>Or do we want to be lied to? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>do we really like politician's whispering sweet, nothing's in our ears?

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<v Speaker 1>Because sometimes you know, that's saying ignorance is bliss. It

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<v Speaker 1>really is, because once your consciousness is pierced and pricked,

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<v Speaker 2>Same, not the true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah true oo, Doc, I'm telling you this is something.

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<v Speaker 1>We got all kinds of stuff going on just just

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<v Speaker 1>in normal life, and then to have this happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>even with the Palestini, you know or min I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you saw, you know, governors and elected officials

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<v Speaker 1>Palestinian sisters and brothers and family and friends. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a warmongering nation and there are a few people who

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<v Speaker 1>will benefit greatly. I want to know what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stocks have been traded by the inside trading and trading

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<v Speaker 1>going on. They wouldn't block it even under Speaker Pelosi.

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<v Speaker 1>So let let we're gonna be clear under Republican or

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<v Speaker 1>democratically controlled Congress, to to beholden to big money, to greedy,

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<v Speaker 1>lack of integrity, to stop Congress members from being able

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<v Speaker 1>to trade stocks. So I want to I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know right now. I want to see all the stock

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<v Speaker 1>trading that is going on among the members of Congress

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Boof is it that hadn't even thought about that? But

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<v Speaker 2>of course that's something that's that's real, very real. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 2>who is profiting, well, what defense contractors are, but then

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<v Speaker 2>the stocks to and the politicians.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it making money handover fists over other people's misery.

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<v Speaker 1>The movie Don't Look Up comes to mind. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have not seen that, you better go to Netflix and

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. The great David Sirota of one of our

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues and friends too, worked on the Sanders campaign, him

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<v Speaker 1>and others. That movie is very telling for this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Right here, you're listening to the Truth Time with doctor Cornell

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<v Speaker 1>West and Anina Turner. When we come forward, we will

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<v Speaker 1>continue our discussion beautiful indeed doct before we turn to

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<v Speaker 1>against the Trump netting Yahoo regime change war should not

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<v Speaker 1>even consider running in twenty twenty eight. You're not who

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<v Speaker 1>this country needs. That I got there, I got the

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<v Speaker 1>triple A man that high five, the fist bumpet. He

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<v Speaker 2>He's laying And we'll see how many Democrats really stepped

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<v Speaker 2>forward though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the ones that's gonna run, he said now, So

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<v Speaker 1>that means like today tomorrow, you know, not not five

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<v Speaker 1>weeks from now. But were gonna keep it. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep a list out. We checking it twice We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find out who's courageous and who's not, who's naughty and

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<v Speaker 1>who nice. But brother Matt, does you made that plane?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I, you know, I, I you know the

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<v Speaker 1>vice president is from Ohio. He is, and he is

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<v Speaker 1>basically rationalizing this. He did admit that he has a

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<v Speaker 1>that you're the vice president. We understand you got a bias.

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<v Speaker 1>I said this to the vice president on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>said vice president were from the same state. I'm positive

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<v Speaker 1>you know about brook Park, Ohio. The third Battalion, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fifth Regiment, fourth Marine Division, which lost twenty one marines

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<v Speaker 1>That community is still realing from that. So trying to

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<v Speaker 1>put some human face on this from our own state.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost twenty one marines and people are still hurt

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<v Speaker 1>by the loss of the loved ones. The power to

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<v Speaker 1>sin the US to war lies with Congress. Let American

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<v Speaker 1>people decide. I've traveled our state and country just as

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<v Speaker 1>you have. No matter where I go, one thing, I

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<v Speaker 1>can almost always find common ground. About and that is

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<v Speaker 1>about sending Americans to war. And you've been all over

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<v Speaker 1>the country too. I don't know if anybody's ever walked

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<v Speaker 1>up to you and say, hey, doctor West, please, if

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<v Speaker 1>you become president of the United States of America, in

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<v Speaker 1>your top three, please send people the war.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's real.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Very few politicians actually have children who are in the army.

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<v Speaker 1>have their world shattered in an instant. You serve, so

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<v Speaker 1>I know you understand, do not let this happen. So

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<v Speaker 1>trying to appeal to some sense of decency if there

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<v Speaker 1>are standing up, are really standing up and again shouting

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<v Speaker 2>the cult like deference that they have for Trump. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's waning, going to wane more and more. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get weaker and weaker and weaker. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon and the others, Marjorie

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<v Speaker 2>Green and others, as wrong as they are on so

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<v Speaker 2>many other crucial, crucial, crucial issues, they've been Trump's supporters.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been marched hand in hand with his neo fascism.

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<v Speaker 2>We should be very honest about that. But they have

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<v Speaker 2>an isolationist version of America first. And Trump himself he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not he doesn't have an ideology at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not even really a Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>He just manipulator every day, every week, every year. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not an idiolog He just does whatever he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>do based on his will and women and those whispering

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<v Speaker 2>in his ear. But he is still deeply, deeply authoritarian,

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<v Speaker 2>neil fascist and policy and effect. But we'll see. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that there's going to be deep conflict in his camp,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's hope you know, doctor West, I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>admit it. Well, I don't hate to admit it. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me, at least my analysis over you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this past decade or so, that Republican Republican tend to

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<v Speaker 1>be more willing, not all the time, to bump back

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<v Speaker 1>against their party than Democrats have been willing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>especially that Maga arm or the Freedom Caucus. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, they will mount up, you know, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it's only ten of them, and then their hold

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<v Speaker 1>people hostage over some stuff. They'll hold some bills, those

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<v Speaker 1>hostage over stuff. Meanwhile, on the other side, you got

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<v Speaker 1>a Progressive caucause that's like one hundred strong air quotes.

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<v Speaker 1>They barely say their word. I find that fascinating. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Under strong in number, but an impact and courage. Not

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot going on. It's keep sweat moments, something something.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a Keith sweat moment. One of my dear

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<v Speaker 1>friends ain't even Lola. She love her some Keith Sweats.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna shout her out. Here we go, we

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<v Speaker 1>go into the tube, into the chat. Blessed peacemaker in

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<v Speaker 1>the house. Good to be with truth, tellers and peacemakers

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<v Speaker 1>on truth time. Amen to that, Doc. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a scripture in the Christian Bible. Blessed all the peacemakers.

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<v Speaker 1>They shall is it they shell in hair the earth?

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<v Speaker 2>That's sermon on the mouth, that's Jesus himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on now, blessed are the peacemakers. It might it

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<v Speaker 1>might not feel like that in the moment though, But

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<v Speaker 1>blessed are the peacemakers. Thanks here der, thank you, blessed,

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<v Speaker 1>blessed peacemaker, and blessed Peacemaker's name is right on time

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<v Speaker 1>in this moment, I'm just thinking about that. Oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>got brother Morris Phillips in the house. Good afternoon, Senator Turner.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor West, got love for both of you, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have love for you too, Brother Phillips, Good afternoon, blessed peacemaker.

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<v Speaker 1>You do bring peace. So we got the dialogue going

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<v Speaker 1>on between our crew up up up there. Love them

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<v Speaker 1>so much when they do that, Jesse paris aka chi

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<v Speaker 1>chi nakume. Peace and much love, Doctor West and Senator

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<v Speaker 1>Nina Turner from Denver, Colorado, Peace and love and blessing us.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to you, brother Phillips, back in I am a

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<v Speaker 1>graduate of the University of the University of kb LA,

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<v Speaker 1>and Doc the West is.

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<v Speaker 2>The dean, go ahead, Astana is the provost.

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<v Speaker 1>And Brother Tavis is the president.

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<v Speaker 2>And chancellor.

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<v Speaker 1>And just love that brother. Boys, you are too much

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I examine life, war for peace. I swear

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<v Speaker 1>we are in the year nineteen eighty four. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. How these cats think think it's some being

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<v Speaker 1>war war for peace? Oh Lord, you know that great

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<v Speaker 1>book orwell Road nineteen eighty four will yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Truth about the role of lies.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is. Listen, audience, family, if you've never read

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty four, it is a strong recommendation, read that book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's timeless. Doctor, that book is timeless.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a classic that is so true.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is. We got blessed peacemaker. Trump tweeted that

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<v Speaker 1>mccron was mistake. Oh Diddy, catch me up on the tweets.

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<v Speaker 1>So remember McCrone was saying that the president was going

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<v Speaker 1>back because there was gonna be ceasefire talks. Blessed Peacemaker

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<v Speaker 1>saying that President Trumpton just he tweeted that Macron was mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>Djt's the latest tweets are absolutely insane warmongering prayers going

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<v Speaker 1>up for peace and new global leaders with good hearts

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<v Speaker 1>who love all people. Amen, A man, a man, a

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<v Speaker 1>man to that blessed peacemaker. You're listening to Truth Time

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<v Speaker 1>all the time with doctor Cornell West and Nina Turner.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come forward, we'll finish talking and interacting with

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<v Speaker 1>our audience in the live chat on the tube. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>you are and yes true question or will rise again?

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<v Speaker 1>We need some of that rising, Doc, I'm back at

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<v Speaker 1>the tube. You know, we got some really good questions,

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<v Speaker 1>so brother Phillips said, both parties bowed down to the

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<v Speaker 1>military industrial complex. We absolutely know that to be true

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<v Speaker 1>in life. Please keep telling the truth, Doctor Wessinson and

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<v Speaker 1>the Turner Love Peace and truth Culture asks a very

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<v Speaker 1>important question, how are some rules and laws followed to

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<v Speaker 1>the letter while others fall under benign neglect policies?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's real, and of course the reality is and undercapitalism,

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<v Speaker 2>ruling classes and property owners and bosses one set of rules,

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<v Speaker 2>and workers and everyday people have another set of rules.

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<v Speaker 2>On the white white brothers and sisters have a set

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<v Speaker 2>of rules, and black brothers and sisters, Indigenous peoples and

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<v Speaker 2>browns and Asians have another set of rules, same as

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<v Speaker 2>true underpatriarchy. Yeah, set of rules. Women are juderent set

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<v Speaker 2>of rules. That's what it is to live in the

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<v Speaker 2>system of domination.

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<v Speaker 1>That said, a system of domination. Lord, have mercy. True time.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about peace, war and peace today A lemon exhaustion,

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<v Speaker 1>Good afternoon, till you both can't stay, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>catch you catch up with it tomorrow. Well, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>women exhaustion for at least dipping in. I love I

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<v Speaker 1>love our people in the chat, Doc, but they are

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<v Speaker 1>such a family here. Blessed Peacemaker has a question, Doc,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor west Howe is doctor Naheata's family back in Iran?

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<v Speaker 1>Is everyone okay? Praying for protection and comfort for you all? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Blessed Peacemaker.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, And we wrestle with it minute by minute. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Anna heat is right on the edge of her seat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right on the edge of my seat in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of our love in Tarann and Tyranne and other parts

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<v Speaker 2>of Iran. Yeah, appreciate that that that question so far

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<v Speaker 2>holding all on, but with all of them coming in,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know whether to stay in the city go

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<v Speaker 2>out of the city. It's something that has her and

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<v Speaker 2>my self and her blessed mother who does not live

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<v Speaker 2>in Tehran but has also loved ones there on praying

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<v Speaker 2>on the edge of our seat. So we deeply appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of care and concern.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, but by the grace of God,

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<v Speaker 1>there go I that's saying that could be any of us.

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<v Speaker 1>The roads could be reversed, and it could be bombs

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<v Speaker 1>dropping on the United States of America, and that's wondering

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<v Speaker 1>how our various loved ones are doing across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is just really wicked. Doctors just no

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<v Speaker 1>excuse for just doing this. You know, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>my heart just aches because I know other people have

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<v Speaker 1>family too, you know. Doctor Nahita is certainly one my sister,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have other sisters and brothers who have people

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<v Speaker 1>in Iran, and it's just painful. A brother, Philip Moore says,

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<v Speaker 1>ignorance is pervasive, but willful ignorance is nefarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, willful, that's fresh word that's deep in saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, we definitely have an obligation to know to

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<v Speaker 1>seek the truth, and we definitely have more at our

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<v Speaker 1>disposal in today's society than any other generation in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to seek the truth. Also though, we got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff out there that pretends to be

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<v Speaker 1>the truth and it's not. So we got to be careful,

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<v Speaker 1>very careful where and how we get our information, because

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<v Speaker 1>just because something looks official doesn't make it official, And

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<v Speaker 1>just because people are putting it out there, especially on

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<v Speaker 1>social media, does not make it true or even real.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Grandma, you say, but truth in the river

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<v Speaker 1>five days after lie, truth gonna catch up. This is

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<v Speaker 1>that moment for so many things happening in this country

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<v Speaker 1>and in this world. Name to Truth Time with doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Cornell West and Nina Turner when we come forward our

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<v Speaker 1>remaining moments. So I want to take our remaining moments

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<v Speaker 1>to talk a little bit about our Mother EMMANUELAM Church

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<v Speaker 1>and Charleston, South Carolina. So ten years ago today and

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacists walked into Mother EMMANUELAMI Church in Charleston, South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina and murdered nine people. We will always remember them.

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<v Speaker 1>Maira Thompson, Susie Jackson, Reverend Daniel Simmons, Reverend and Senator CLEMENTA. C. Pinckney,

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<v Speaker 1>Tijuana Sanders, Reverend Sharonda Coleman, Singleton, f O. Lee Lance,

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend D. Payne Middleton doctor and Cynthia Graham her doctor West.

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<v Speaker 2>Say their names. They they names, Yeah, cowardly, hariss hateful,

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<v Speaker 2>white supremacist goes in in the Bible study, sits there

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<v Speaker 2>and listens as they wrestle with the Holy Scripture, and

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<v Speaker 2>then turns guns against them, solely Black, solely because a

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<v Speaker 2>hatred for black people. My God, my God. Then a

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<v Speaker 2>few days later, a number of them say they forgive it.

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<v Speaker 3>You say, ooh, oh, wait a minute, Wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Forgiveness is not just an event, It's a process. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a Christian. I believe in forgiveness, but people have to

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<v Speaker 2>ask for forgiveness and you got to work it through

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<v Speaker 2>so that it is not premature. But people can do

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<v Speaker 2>what they won't. But the amazing thing is that there's

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of openness on behalf of so many Black

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<v Speaker 2>people for coming the terms with being hated in the

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<v Speaker 2>form of out and keep some kind of love possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And whether we agree or disagree with that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>premature forgiveness, it does say something about the human spirit

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<v Speaker 2>among black people that we still in the end most

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<v Speaker 2>of us just don't want to back just to extend

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<v Speaker 2>the cycle of hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm i wrestle with that, I must say, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think it is true for us more

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<v Speaker 1>than any other group. Not exclusively, but in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to ask myself the question, are we programming

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<v Speaker 1>to forgive more quickly as if we're not worthy or

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<v Speaker 1>entitled of being angry, being mad, being sad and making

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<v Speaker 1>a demand. I love your quote. Forgiveness is not just

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<v Speaker 1>an event, It is a process. Black people need to

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<v Speaker 1>process that that it is a process, that it is

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<v Speaker 1>okay for us to take our time. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>we have internalized a certain type of pressure that says

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<v Speaker 1>we're not worthy, and therefore we got to jump up

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<v Speaker 1>and forgive folks just to do it. I really do. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's some virtuous a little bit, a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but not exclusively. I also believe it could be dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all over the place on this.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm with you. I think all of us wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is a charitable notion of Christian hatred where

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<v Speaker 2>you hate the sin and love the sinner. Now, that

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<v Speaker 2>to me is sure what we want to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>But somebody's just shot down to people you love. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to make a DECI distinction Sometime between the sin

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<v Speaker 2>and the sinner.

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<v Speaker 1>And we got to talk about that too, and the

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<v Speaker 1>should not. We should not feel obligated as a people

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<v Speaker 1>more than any other group to jump out there and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgive you the process. We gotta process this thing first.

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<v Speaker 1>I might get there eventually. You know, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite counselwomen who she's in the ancestral of playing. Her

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<v Speaker 1>name is Fanny Elm Lewis. She said, God loves you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to like you, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we need some of that vibe God loves you.

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<v Speaker 1>Another black saying try Jesus, don't try me, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So in any case, Oh my God, so good to

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<v Speaker 1>be with all of you today, doctor West. And I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to live on purpose, live your purpose no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what is happening in this world. And remember above

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<v Speaker 1>all things, titles are good, but purpose is better. Until

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<v Speaker 1>next time,
