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your support. Original Sin. That's the book, Original Sin, President
Biden's decline, its cover up, and his disastrous choice to
run again. This is the book that is now out
on the bookshelves and available by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson.
Full disclosure, I have not read the book. Further disclosure,
I do not intend to read the book, let alone
buy it. Okay, However, I allowed somebody else to do
it for me, that being Megan Kelly, host of The
Megan Kelly Show on YouTube. And I think she's on
Serious XM now and she had I was looking forward
to this. She had Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson on
her show yesterday for an hour and a half. I
watched it, so you don't have to. I've got the highlights.
One of the things that I was not aware of
as to like, why did they call the book original sin?
And Tapper said that this was a comment that somebody
made to him at some point. It may have been
I forget when, like during the campaign or after the
election or something, and some Democrat told him that the
original sin was that Biden should not have run for reelection.
That was the original sin that he that he said
he was going to run for re election, and that's
what necessitated the cover up. Even the title of the
book is a cover up. There is a writer. I
believe she's at the Free Press now. She used to
be at Newsweek. Her name is Batya Saya Sungar Argon
or something like that. I should have written it down.
I've seen her. You've seen her too, I'm sure making
the rounds on you know, various shows and podcasts and
the like. But I think she is exactly right. She
also joined the Megan Kelly Show yesterday and she made
it a I think a very astute observation, which was
that what the Tapper book is doing, what Tappa and
Thompson are doing in this book is reputation laundering. That's
what's going on.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party has an incentive to now blame Joe
Biden and Joe Biden sorry, doctor Jill, you call her
doctor Jill. To blame the Bidens, blame the people around him,
because they're done. They are done, right, just they will.
Nobody's going to trust them in positions of power again, right,
like they they're they're they're torched. So you make them
the fall guy and the meat. So that's the Democrat
Party leadership, right. They want all of this blame to
go just on the Bidens. We were deceived. We couldn't
tell that he was slurring his words and having you know,
long pauses and reading stage cues as if they were scripted,
you know, comments like like we're supposed to believe they
didn't see what more than half the country saw. Right,
they were lied to, they were duped. They couldn't figure
it out. That's that's their incentive. What's the media incentive.
The media's incentive right now is to also blame the
Bidens because they didn't. It's not our fault that we
were deceived. We were lied to. We tried to get
the story. Here's the thing you don't need people on
the record, like you don't need people. You don't even
need anonymous sourcing. All you need to do is watch
the videos over the last four or five years. That's it.
You are as a reporter just as qualified as anybody
else to identify the behavior that you yourself are seeing.
In fact, that's your job. Is literally part of your
job is to go see the car crash, see the
house fire, right, see the rescue, and report on what's occurring.
You do it all the time. You could have done
that with Joe Biden, just like I did with Joe
Biden for the last five years. Play the SoundBite, watch
the video and say this is what's happening. Something is
not going on, something good is not going on here.
If you want to go and ask the White House, hey,
is he lost a step and they're like, he's fine,
and he's doing jumping Jack's you know, while standing on
his head, but fine, get their statement and put it
in there too. However, however, you don't just stop that
story after that one glitch on stage or the one
mess up or something right. You create the body of
evidence over time. That's also part of the job as
a journalist. As a reporter. So this idea that the
original sin was that he ran for reelection. He decided
to run for reelection. That actually is not the original sin.
The original sin was his first run because that's when
the evidence was presenting itself and people around him knew it.
And in this book they detail. Let me see here,
I have a whole bunch of notes there was to do.
Mike Donalan, who was named as one of the what
Alex Thompson dubs the polyp Bureau. He was one of
the advisors right to Joe Biden. He was on the
campaign trail with Biden. This would have been in twenty nineteen,
and they're on a bus tour, so it's pre COVID.
They're on a bus tour and Biden cannot remember Donalan's
name repeatedly. Donalin has worked with Joe Biden for like
thirty years, and Biden kept blanking on his name. The
original sin was not the decision to run for re election.
But that's what Democrats and Tap and Thompson are advancing.
This is what they want us to believe that Joe
Biden was. You know, he was fine enough, he was
fine during you know, he's just old in the twenty
twenty race. But we know that it's not true. And
what's his face? One of the Castro brothers, the Twins right,
was running for president in the twenty twenty primary, and
he made the comment on the debate stage in the
primary about Joe forgetting what he's talking about and not
having a good memory. He said it on the stage,
and what happened to him? Nobody knows, right, that guy
hasn't been in Democrat politics since. So I'm not buying
your your cover story. I'm not buying the reputation laundering. However,
it is important to hear the details that Thompson and
Tapper have brought fully. Why well, it first off confirms
the things that we've been saying, right, but we also
need to know what they are willing to admit to
at this time because some people still are not Some
people still refuse to admit what we all could see,
except maybe for Biden's bag dad, Bob Andrew Bates. This guy,
he's a North Carolina political operative. Guy worked for the
Biden White House in their press shop. And here's a
excerpt from the book. Some of Bates's colleagues believe that
Biden's inner circle took advantage of his loyalty and told
him to deny things they knew were true. He, along
with most of the press team, rarely met with the
president and did not have firsthand knowledge of the president's wherewithal.
They relied on senior staff for answers. Still risking his
own credibility, Bates willingly became the White House's tip of
the spear when it came to fighting off any reporting
on Biden's acuity. The spokesman for the North Carolina GOP,
Matt Mercer, says, so Andrew Bates wasn't important enough to
be in on the Biden crime family conspiracy and became
the senior staff's useful idiot. It's quite amazing, all right.
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over to the phones and talk with Matthew. Hello, Matthew,
welcome to the program.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that. I was just wanting to find
out what the relevance was. Continues to be talking about
Joe Biden. He's not the president anymore.
Speaker 1: What's the relevant so the relevance? You got to take
me off speakerphone or turn your radio down there, Matthew. Wow,
that didn't end the way I thought it was going
to end. But okay, goodbye, Matthew. So I'm sure that
was a good faith question that Matthew wanted answered. So
I shall accommodate. You know me, I am a giver.
So the relevance is multifaceted. Number One, Jake Tapper and
Dlex Thompson wrote a book and that book hit the
shelves today. So that's number one. So that would be
three quarters of the word news, and it's new. New
makes up most of the word news, and so that's new.
And so you got the book that's out and it
has new details about what we all just lived through
for the last five years. So Number one, that's why
it's relevant from a news perspective. Number Two, it happens
to be the biggest political scandal probably in American history,
if not one of them. That also makes it newsworthy
and quite relevant, particularly again because we just lived through
it for the last five years and we're only like
four months five months removed from the end of this
scandalous period. Number Three, that the scandal is that the
there was a cover up in order to hide Joe Biden,
the President's mental infirmity. Right, that's a huge scandal. Somebody
is not mentally fit to hold the office that they
are elected to, and they lied about it for years
and we don't even know all of the people involved
in the light, so we're still in a fact finding mode. Also,
who was making the decisions at the times when the
president could not. That's also a pretty big part of
the scandal, because the president signed a bunch of bills
into law, and he wrote executive or signed executive orders.
If he wasn't signing him who was using the auto
pen to sign in his hand? Who was using that
device in order to sign all of these things? Pardons,
for example, were people were people outside of the you know,
presidency advisors, were they signing off on pardons and clemency
and stuff? But also relevance. This is called holding people accountable.
That's what this is. And I know for people like
Matthew he probably likes Joe Biden or he's a Democrat
and whatever, and he didn't stick around. I was going
to ask him if he noticed any of the mental
decline that Joe Biden was suffering over the last five years.
I'm curious to know if he witnessed it and what
did he think about media and Democrats. But I repeat
myself trying to savage anybody that pointed it out. See
here's the thing. When people like me were pointing these
things out throughout the last five years, people like Matthew
would argue that I was being mean, I was misconstruing things, cheap,
fake videos, like all of the all of the attacks
that I was subjected to, other conservative media people have
been subjected to. Republican legislators were subjected to because they
were noticing what we all were noticing, and then they
would speak it. We would speak about it, and then
we would be attacked. See this is a psychological operation.
This is gaslighting. And now now that Joe Biden has
no power, now that Joe Biden's value is zero to
Democrats and media, now the truth can be told. Now
you're going to come in and you're going to pretend
that you just missed all of this for the last
five years while savaging people that were not missing it,
that were correct, We were telling the truth. Now you
come in and say, Okay, that stuff was true. But
now Matthew just wants to move on, and that's not
how accountability works. In fact, you should apologize, Matthew. You
should apologize. You should apologize to anybody that you tried
to silence when they were pointing out these truths. Will
you No, probably not, But that is the honorable thing
to do when you have messed up, when you have
called other people liars, you've impugned their motives, you've called
them names, and then it turns out that they were
actually correct and you were not. That's the charitable explanation.
Less than charitable is that you were involved in the
cover up. And so no, when you do those things
and you try to silence those voices and they turn
out to be correct, you don't then get to say,
let's move on as soon as the reckoning starts. That's
what's happening right now. This is a reckoning, and I
am not done until I burn it all down. Media,
the people in it, the Democrats who knew, because we're
starting to get names now, all of them, all of
them need to pay a political price for this because
what they perpetrated was a massive syop gas lighting on
the American public. And they did it why, Some did
it for their own power preservation that were around the president,
because they were enjoying the trappings of the elite lifestyle, right,
they had access to power that they otherwise could never
achieve because they couldn't win the election. Maybe people were
enriching themselves. I don't know, right, this is the reckoning, Matthew.
You don't get to say, oh, let's move on now.
That's not really relevant anymore because he's not the president. Dude,
He's only been out of office for four months. This
is an ancient history. I'm not litigating Watergate here. The
book is out today and we're learning more information two dates, Like,
for example, did you know that they apparently filmed a
ninety minute fake town hall in the spring of twenty
twenty four before the debate. They did a ninety minute
fake town hall. They brought in Democrat operatives to act
as the audience. They recorded a fake town hall, and
then they couldn't use any of the video. Biden was
so bad they scrapped all of it. Now, you're telling
me that people didn't know that you packed a town
hall with people. Everybody in that room knew something was wrong.
It was so unusable they had to scrap it. So yeah, sorry,
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Let me get to Travis first. Hello Travis, thanks for hanging.
Speaker 3: On, mister Peg. I'm good.
Speaker 1: What's up.
Speaker 3: I'm listening to this idea that Matthew had of just
moving on putting in the past. The problem is that
this is a past it's interest because whoever was setting
policy under the Biden administration will almost certainly be in
the next Democratic administration, and we don't know who they are.
We don't no, But for example, what was the process
in the White House on the executive side of writing
the inflation reduction at right? What was the process in
signing the executive orders regarding school school dad education dead Well,
we those people are still out there. They've never been
subjected to serious questioning because they got to do everything
in the shadows. So this isn't past its future.
Speaker 1: I agree. No, you know, the Matthew's question was not
a good faith question. It was an attempt to, uh
get me to stop talking about a subject that damages
his preferred political party.
Speaker 3: That's I need to take notes on that because I'd
like to be able to stop conversation.
Speaker 1: There you go, Travis, I appreciate the call man. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Oh that's good.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. All right. So let me get
to some audio. Here is Jake Tapper on how he
dialed back his coverage of what he says both Trump
and Biden in the days or weeks leading up to
the debate, that infamous debate in June of twenty twenty four. Yeah,
twenty twenty four. Why, I'm oh, my gosh, my Joe Biden. No,
this is why. So listen to this. This is not
he does not equit himself well on this, but this
is his answer.
Speaker 2: I will acknowledge that after I was named moderator co
moderator of the debate, I tried to make sure that
my coverage was fairly vanilla, both about Trump and about Biden,
because I just wanted to get to the debate, and
you know, the Biden people and the Trump people, I'm
kind of frankly surprised that either one of them agreed
to have me as a moderator because both sides disliked
me so much. But yeah, I remember that that moment,
and I remember that moment the glitch at the immigration
event and not getting much attention outside of conservative media
at all. And Alex and I are here to say
that conservative media was right, and conservative media was correct,
and that there should be a lot of soul searching,
not just among me, but among the legacy media to
begin with all of us for how this was covered
or not covered sufficiently. So I mean, I'm not here
to defend coverage that I've already acknowledged. I wish I
could do differently.
Speaker 4: Let me bring Alex in. Thank you for your patience Alex,
and apologies for the I think.
Speaker 2: He's fine.
Speaker 1: Based on what just happened.
Speaker 4: But Jake and I are actually friends, and this is
all said in look the context of I know my
audience wants to hear asked, and Jake has told me
before he wanted the opportunity to answer these questions.
Speaker 2: So, Megan, we didn't come on the show thinking that
this was going to be a softball interview. I understand, like, listen, listen.
As a first of all, nobody flagellates Jake Tapper more
than Jake Tapper. Okay, Like I get it. I understand
I am fallible. I make mistakes. It's not just the
Biden coverage. I mean, I go back and I look
at like I wish I had been covering terrorism more
before nine to eleven. I wish that I had covered
the WMD with more skepticism. And there's you know, a
million things, this is definitely among them. And conservative media
absolutely has every right to say we were hip to
this and the legacy media was not.
Speaker 1: Now, I do not accept that I was part of
a cover up.
Speaker 2: I do not accept that I was just providing cover
for Joe Biden. I think a lot of these clips
are not fair. The one that is fair is the
Laura Trump clip, and I own it right.
Speaker 1: We've played the Laura clip, Laura Trump clip on this
show multiple times over the years where he attacked her
when she pointed out in the twenty twenty campaign that
Joe Biden was obviously having some cognitive issues, and he
lit into her and said, you're not qualified to make
this kind of a diagnosis, so I'm sure you're making it.
You wish the best for Joe and all of this,
It says stutter. That's what he said. Oh you're what
do you think kids would stutters must think having you know,
listened to you make fun of his stutter, She's like,
it's not a stutter. I don't even know he had
a stutter till you just said it. Yeah, this is
the gas lighting, right. And to Tapper's point, and to
Matthew's totally good faith question, he Tapper says, the Legacy
meet it needs to engage in some soul searching on
why everybody missed it. That's a process that is right now.
That's why this is relevant. The people that occupy these
positions that are supposed to be informing the public about
what is and isn't happening. The ones that are supposed
to be skeptical of people in power holding them accountable,
that they completely and utterly failed at best and at worst,
we're part of the cover up. That's why we're talking
about it. As I have said repeatedly, I believe this
is the biggest political scandal in our nation's history. You
can disagree, and you can turn on another show where
they will tell you that Joe Biden is still doing
jumping Jackson running laps around his twenty two year old
staffers because he's just so young and sprying with it.
You can go find those outlets. I'm sure they exist.
They will tell you what you want to hear. All right.
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Megan Kelly about how the book is being received or not.
Speaker 4: I guess do you care what the ladies of the
View say, because that's kind of in your not your personally,
but it's in the left wing ecosphere and they are
having a very negative reaction. I'm sorry to tell you
to original sin. They don't like your book.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 4: They don't appreciate that it's being published now.
Speaker 1: And I wonder have they read it?
Speaker 4: Have they had you on? Have they invited you to
come on to discuss it?
Speaker 3: They have?
Speaker 1: They have not?
Speaker 5: They have they have.
Speaker 2: We have gone to them any number of times and
said we would love to come on the show to
discuss They obviously were where President and First Lady Biden
went for their prebuttle of the book, and we thought
it would be it would only.
Speaker 1: Be fair to have us on.
Speaker 2: But the View, and for that matter, Fox News seems
to enjoy using our scoops talking about every thing we
learned in the months of investigative journalism and what we're
revealing in this book, but they're declining to have us
on to discuss it, which is regrettable because I think
this is an important thing for people to come to
terms with when it comes to the view or to
explore in terms of the depth of what we Alex
and I have been able to find out. In terms
of Fox News, I will say that there is clearly
a contingent of people on the left who want to
bury their head in the sand on this issue and
pretend it didn't happen, and pretend that it's not part
of the reason why Donald Trump and the Republicans controlled
the White House, in the House, in the Senate, and
why Democratic poll numbers are in the toilet. I think
that is part of why Democrats are where they are.
This gas lighting all right.
Speaker 1: David Axelrod, Obama's guy, said that we should set aside
the discussion of the allegations in the book because of
Biden's cancer diagnosis.
Speaker 2: Kelly asked, do you agree with that? Well, if I didn't,
I don't think i'd be here. I mean, I think
what happened.
Speaker 1: The country here, you do?
Speaker 2: I think we need to be discussing this. I think
obviously we have sympathy for President Biden, both in terms
of the prostate cancer and in terms of whatever other
health issue he is grappling with. And we talked to
many neurologists who spent you talk about how you are
on a text chain with your producers. The night of
the debate, we talked to one of the top neurologists
in the world, who you know, has is on a
text chain with a number of other top neurologists, and
they spent much of twenty twenty four trying to figure
out what was wrong with Joe Biden, whether it's louis
body dementia or Parkinson's or something parkinsonian. And they don't
know then they're not qualified to say from a distance.
Speaker 1: But it's a.
Speaker 2: Serious question and the larger issue of transparency and group
think questions for the Democratic Party and the public and
the news media. These are all really important conversations to have.
I don't think that our story, I don't think that
our book is mean. I think it is just accurate
and clear eyed. And I think this is a conversation
the country needs to have, not just about President Biden,
but about all presidents.
Speaker 4: It's like I tell my kids, it is not mean
to say something that is true but not necessarily complimentary.
I mean, it's not if it's true and you are
not saying it with the intention to hurt somebody, it's
not quote mean. They're not going to get away with that. Sorry, Alex,
you wanted a weigh in, go ahead.
Speaker 5: I actually just wanted to say one more thing about
the media coverage and this question, which is, you know,
when Jake came to me with this idea. You know,
on every beat, there are some suck ups, there's some
people that are lazy. But I never felt that Jake,
even if he fell short on the age issue, I
never felt he carried the water for the Biden people.
And I hope your listeners who may be skeptical of
Jake at least like give the book a chance.
Speaker 1: Give the book a chance. And then Tapper explains the
value of the book while accepting the criticism that he
missed the real story in real time.
Speaker 2: People were shocked on June twenty seven, twenty twenty four,
because there was, to a degree a cover up of
how bad his decline had been. So even if and if,
even though many folks including you, were covering this. It
still was shocking what people saw on June twenty seven.
And the only other point I'll say is I'm not
disagreeing with the fact that conservatives were right on this
and that people in the legacy media, including myself, should
have been paying closer attention and more attention. I'm granting
all of that. But the reason why I think there
is interest in this book is because people want to
know more beyond what they saw in front of the camera.
They want to know how this happened, and I think
I think that is what we provide through this deeply sourced,
unflinching account of what really went on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Right, And I agree with him on this. This has
to occur, and there has to be space for Democrats
to come to terms with this. And yes, people held
accountable for whatever roles they played in advancing the cover up.
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