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smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for

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your support. Original Sin. That's the book, Original Sin, President

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Biden's decline, its cover up, and his disastrous choice to

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run again. This is the book that is now out

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on the bookshelves and available by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson.

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Full disclosure, I have not read the book. Further disclosure,

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I do not intend to read the book, let alone

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buy it. Okay, However, I allowed somebody else to do

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it for me, that being Megan Kelly, host of The

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Megan Kelly Show on YouTube. And I think she's on

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Serious XM now and she had I was looking forward

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to this. She had Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson on

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her show yesterday for an hour and a half. I

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watched it, so you don't have to. I've got the highlights.

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One of the things that I was not aware of

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as to like, why did they call the book original sin?

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And Tapper said that this was a comment that somebody

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made to him at some point. It may have been

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I forget when, like during the campaign or after the

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election or something, and some Democrat told him that the

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original sin was that Biden should not have run for reelection.

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That was the original sin that he that he said

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he was going to run for re election, and that's

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what necessitated the cover up. Even the title of the

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book is a cover up. There is a writer. I

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believe she's at the Free Press now. She used to

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be at Newsweek. Her name is Batya Saya Sungar Argon

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or something like that. I should have written it down.

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I've seen her. You've seen her too, I'm sure making

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the rounds on you know, various shows and podcasts and

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the like. But I think she is exactly right. She

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also joined the Megan Kelly Show yesterday and she made

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it a I think a very astute observation, which was

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that what the Tapper book is doing, what Tappa and

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Thompson are doing in this book is reputation laundering. That's

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what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The Democratic Party has an incentive to now blame Joe

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Biden and Joe Biden sorry, doctor Jill, you call her

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doctor Jill. To blame the Bidens, blame the people around him,

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because they're done. They are done, right, just they will.

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Nobody's going to trust them in positions of power again, right,

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like they they're they're they're torched. So you make them

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the fall guy and the meat. So that's the Democrat

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Party leadership, right. They want all of this blame to

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go just on the Bidens. We were deceived. We couldn't

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tell that he was slurring his words and having you know,

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long pauses and reading stage cues as if they were scripted,

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you know, comments like like we're supposed to believe they

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didn't see what more than half the country saw. Right,

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they were lied to, they were duped. They couldn't figure

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it out. That's that's their incentive. What's the media incentive.

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The media's incentive right now is to also blame the

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Bidens because they didn't. It's not our fault that we

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were deceived. We were lied to. We tried to get

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the story. Here's the thing you don't need people on

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the record, like you don't need people. You don't even

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need anonymous sourcing. All you need to do is watch

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the videos over the last four or five years. That's it.

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You are as a reporter just as qualified as anybody

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else to identify the behavior that you yourself are seeing.

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In fact, that's your job. Is literally part of your

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job is to go see the car crash, see the

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house fire, right, see the rescue, and report on what's occurring.

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You do it all the time. You could have done

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that with Joe Biden, just like I did with Joe

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Biden for the last five years. Play the SoundBite, watch

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the video and say this is what's happening. Something is

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not going on, something good is not going on here.

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If you want to go and ask the White House, hey,

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is he lost a step and they're like, he's fine,

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and he's doing jumping Jack's you know, while standing on

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his head, but fine, get their statement and put it

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in there too. However, however, you don't just stop that

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story after that one glitch on stage or the one

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mess up or something right. You create the body of

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evidence over time. That's also part of the job as

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a journalist. As a reporter. So this idea that the

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original sin was that he ran for reelection. He decided

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to run for reelection. That actually is not the original sin.

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The original sin was his first run because that's when

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the evidence was presenting itself and people around him knew it.

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And in this book they detail. Let me see here,

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I have a whole bunch of notes there was to do.

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Mike Donalan, who was named as one of the what

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Alex Thompson dubs the polyp Bureau. He was one of

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the advisors right to Joe Biden. He was on the

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campaign trail with Biden. This would have been in twenty nineteen,

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and they're on a bus tour, so it's pre COVID.

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They're on a bus tour and Biden cannot remember Donalan's

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name repeatedly. Donalin has worked with Joe Biden for like

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thirty years, and Biden kept blanking on his name. The

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original sin was not the decision to run for re election.

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But that's what Democrats and Tap and Thompson are advancing.

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This is what they want us to believe that Joe

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Biden was. You know, he was fine enough, he was

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fine during you know, he's just old in the twenty

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twenty race. But we know that it's not true. And

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what's his face? One of the Castro brothers, the Twins right,

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was running for president in the twenty twenty primary, and

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he made the comment on the debate stage in the

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primary about Joe forgetting what he's talking about and not

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having a good memory. He said it on the stage,

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and what happened to him? Nobody knows, right, that guy

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hasn't been in Democrat politics since. So I'm not buying

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your your cover story. I'm not buying the reputation laundering. However,

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it is important to hear the details that Thompson and

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Tapper have brought fully. Why well, it first off confirms

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the things that we've been saying, right, but we also

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need to know what they are willing to admit to

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at this time because some people still are not Some

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people still refuse to admit what we all could see,

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except maybe for Biden's bag dad, Bob Andrew Bates. This guy,

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he's a North Carolina political operative. Guy worked for the

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Biden White House in their press shop. And here's a

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excerpt from the book. Some of Bates's colleagues believe that

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Biden's inner circle took advantage of his loyalty and told

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him to deny things they knew were true. He, along

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with most of the press team, rarely met with the

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president and did not have firsthand knowledge of the president's wherewithal.

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They relied on senior staff for answers. Still risking his

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own credibility, Bates willingly became the White House's tip of

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the spear when it came to fighting off any reporting

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on Biden's acuity. The spokesman for the North Carolina GOP,

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Matt Mercer, says, so Andrew Bates wasn't important enough to

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be in on the Biden crime family conspiracy and became

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the senior staff's useful idiot. It's quite amazing, all right.

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as they make the media landscape more transparent. Let's head

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over to the phones and talk with Matthew. Hello, Matthew,

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welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that. I was just wanting to find

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out what the relevance was. Continues to be talking about

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Joe Biden. He's not the president anymore.

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Speaker 1: What's the relevant so the relevance? You got to take

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me off speakerphone or turn your radio down there, Matthew. Wow,

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that didn't end the way I thought it was going

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to end. But okay, goodbye, Matthew. So I'm sure that

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was a good faith question that Matthew wanted answered. So

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I shall accommodate. You know me, I am a giver.

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So the relevance is multifaceted. Number One, Jake Tapper and

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Dlex Thompson wrote a book and that book hit the

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shelves today. So that's number one. So that would be

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three quarters of the word news, and it's new. New

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makes up most of the word news, and so that's new.

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And so you got the book that's out and it

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has new details about what we all just lived through

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for the last five years. So Number one, that's why

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it's relevant from a news perspective. Number Two, it happens

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to be the biggest political scandal probably in American history,

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if not one of them. That also makes it newsworthy

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and quite relevant, particularly again because we just lived through

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it for the last five years and we're only like

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four months five months removed from the end of this

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scandalous period. Number Three, that the scandal is that the

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there was a cover up in order to hide Joe Biden,

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the President's mental infirmity. Right, that's a huge scandal. Somebody

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is not mentally fit to hold the office that they

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are elected to, and they lied about it for years

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and we don't even know all of the people involved

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in the light, so we're still in a fact finding mode. Also,

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who was making the decisions at the times when the

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president could not. That's also a pretty big part of

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the scandal, because the president signed a bunch of bills

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into law, and he wrote executive or signed executive orders.

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If he wasn't signing him who was using the auto

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pen to sign in his hand? Who was using that

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device in order to sign all of these things? Pardons,

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for example, were people were people outside of the you know,

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presidency advisors, were they signing off on pardons and clemency

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and stuff? But also relevance. This is called holding people accountable.

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Matthew he probably likes Joe Biden or he's a Democrat

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and whatever, and he didn't stick around. I was going

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to ask him if he noticed any of the mental

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decline that Joe Biden was suffering over the last five years.

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I'm curious to know if he witnessed it and what

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did he think about media and Democrats. But I repeat

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myself trying to savage anybody that pointed it out. See

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here's the thing. When people like me were pointing these

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things out throughout the last five years, people like Matthew

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would argue that I was being mean, I was misconstruing things, cheap,

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fake videos, like all of the all of the attacks

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that I was subjected to, other conservative media people have

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been subjected to. Republican legislators were subjected to because they

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were noticing what we all were noticing, and then they

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would speak it. We would speak about it, and then

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we would be attacked. See this is a psychological operation.

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This is gaslighting. And now now that Joe Biden has

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no power, now that Joe Biden's value is zero to

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Democrats and media, now the truth can be told. Now

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you're going to come in and you're going to pretend

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that you just missed all of this for the last

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five years while savaging people that were not missing it,

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that were correct, We were telling the truth. Now you

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come in and say, Okay, that stuff was true. But

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now Matthew just wants to move on, and that's not

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how accountability works. In fact, you should apologize, Matthew. You

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should apologize. You should apologize to anybody that you tried

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to silence when they were pointing out these truths. Will

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you No, probably not, But that is the honorable thing

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to do when you have messed up, when you have

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called other people liars, you've impugned their motives, you've called

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them names, and then it turns out that they were

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actually correct and you were not. That's the charitable explanation.

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Less than charitable is that you were involved in the

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cover up. And so no, when you do those things

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and you try to silence those voices and they turn

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out to be correct, you don't then get to say,

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let's move on as soon as the reckoning starts. That's

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what's happening right now. This is a reckoning, and I

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am not done until I burn it all down. Media,

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the people in it, the Democrats who knew, because we're

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starting to get names now, all of them, all of

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them need to pay a political price for this because

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what they perpetrated was a massive syop gas lighting on

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the American public. And they did it why, Some did

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it for their own power preservation that were around the president,

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because they were enjoying the trappings of the elite lifestyle, right,

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they had access to power that they otherwise could never

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achieve because they couldn't win the election. Maybe people were

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enriching themselves. I don't know, right, this is the reckoning, Matthew.

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You don't get to say, oh, let's move on now.

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That's not really relevant anymore because he's not the president. Dude,

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He's only been out of office for four months. This

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is an ancient history. I'm not litigating Watergate here. The

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book is out today and we're learning more information two dates, Like,

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for example, did you know that they apparently filmed a

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ninety minute fake town hall in the spring of twenty

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twenty four before the debate. They did a ninety minute

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fake town hall. They brought in Democrat operatives to act

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as the audience. They recorded a fake town hall, and

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then they couldn't use any of the video. Biden was

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so bad they scrapped all of it. Now, you're telling

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me that people didn't know that you packed a town

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hall with people. Everybody in that room knew something was wrong.

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It was so unusable they had to scrap it. So yeah, sorry,

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the reckoning is hurting you, hurting your feelings or something.

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Maybe go ask the council for a payoff. I don't know,

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Let me get to Travis first. Hello Travis, thanks for hanging.

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Speaker 3: On, mister Peg. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: What's up.

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Speaker 3: I'm listening to this idea that Matthew had of just

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moving on putting in the past. The problem is that

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this is a past it's interest because whoever was setting

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policy under the Biden administration will almost certainly be in

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the next Democratic administration, and we don't know who they are.

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We don't no, But for example, what was the process

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in the White House on the executive side of writing

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the inflation reduction at right? What was the process in

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signing the executive orders regarding school school dad education dead Well,

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we those people are still out there. They've never been

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subjected to serious questioning because they got to do everything

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in the shadows. So this isn't past its future.

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Speaker 1: I agree. No, you know, the Matthew's question was not

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a good faith question. It was an attempt to, uh

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get me to stop talking about a subject that damages

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his preferred political party.

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Speaker 3: That's I need to take notes on that because I'd

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like to be able to stop conversation.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Travis, I appreciate the call man. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's good.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. All right. So let me get

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to some audio. Here is Jake Tapper on how he

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dialed back his coverage of what he says both Trump

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and Biden in the days or weeks leading up to

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the debate, that infamous debate in June of twenty twenty four. Yeah,

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twenty twenty four. Why, I'm oh, my gosh, my Joe Biden. No,

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this is why. So listen to this. This is not

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he does not equit himself well on this, but this

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is his answer.

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Speaker 2: I will acknowledge that after I was named moderator co

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moderator of the debate, I tried to make sure that

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my coverage was fairly vanilla, both about Trump and about Biden,

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because I just wanted to get to the debate, and

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you know, the Biden people and the Trump people, I'm

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kind of frankly surprised that either one of them agreed

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to have me as a moderator because both sides disliked

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me so much. But yeah, I remember that that moment,

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and I remember that moment the glitch at the immigration

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event and not getting much attention outside of conservative media

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at all. And Alex and I are here to say

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that conservative media was right, and conservative media was correct,

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and that there should be a lot of soul searching,

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not just among me, but among the legacy media to

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begin with all of us for how this was covered

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or not covered sufficiently. So I mean, I'm not here

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to defend coverage that I've already acknowledged. I wish I

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could do differently.

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Speaker 4: Let me bring Alex in. Thank you for your patience Alex,

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and apologies for the I think.

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Speaker 2: He's fine.

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Speaker 1: Based on what just happened.

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Speaker 4: But Jake and I are actually friends, and this is

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all said in look the context of I know my

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audience wants to hear asked, and Jake has told me

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before he wanted the opportunity to answer these questions.

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Speaker 2: So, Megan, we didn't come on the show thinking that

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this was going to be a softball interview. I understand, like, listen, listen.

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As a first of all, nobody flagellates Jake Tapper more

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than Jake Tapper. Okay, Like I get it. I understand

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I am fallible. I make mistakes. It's not just the

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Biden coverage. I mean, I go back and I look

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at like I wish I had been covering terrorism more

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before nine to eleven. I wish that I had covered

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the WMD with more skepticism. And there's you know, a

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million things, this is definitely among them. And conservative media

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absolutely has every right to say we were hip to

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this and the legacy media was not.

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Speaker 1: Now, I do not accept that I was part of

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a cover up.

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Speaker 2: I do not accept that I was just providing cover

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for Joe Biden. I think a lot of these clips

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are not fair. The one that is fair is the

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Laura Trump clip, and I own it right.

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Speaker 1: We've played the Laura clip, Laura Trump clip on this

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show multiple times over the years where he attacked her

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when she pointed out in the twenty twenty campaign that

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Joe Biden was obviously having some cognitive issues, and he

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lit into her and said, you're not qualified to make

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this kind of a diagnosis, so I'm sure you're making it.

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You wish the best for Joe and all of this,

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It says stutter. That's what he said. Oh you're what

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do you think kids would stutters must think having you know,

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listened to you make fun of his stutter, She's like,

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it's not a stutter. I don't even know he had

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a stutter till you just said it. Yeah, this is

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the gas lighting, right. And to Tapper's point, and to

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Matthew's totally good faith question, he Tapper says, the Legacy

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meet it needs to engage in some soul searching on

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why everybody missed it. That's a process that is right now.

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That's why this is relevant. The people that occupy these

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positions that are supposed to be informing the public about

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what is and isn't happening. The ones that are supposed

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to be skeptical of people in power holding them accountable,

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that they completely and utterly failed at best and at worst,

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we're part of the cover up. That's why we're talking

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about it. As I have said repeatedly, I believe this

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is the biggest political scandal in our nation's history. You

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can disagree, and you can turn on another show where

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they will tell you that Joe Biden is still doing

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jumping Jackson running laps around his twenty two year old

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staffers because he's just so young and sprying with it.

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You can go find those outlets. I'm sure they exist.

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They will tell you what you want to hear. All right.

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Megan Kelly about how the book is being received or not.

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Speaker 4: I guess do you care what the ladies of the

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View say, because that's kind of in your not your personally,

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but it's in the left wing ecosphere and they are

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having a very negative reaction. I'm sorry to tell you

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to original sin. They don't like your book.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 4: They don't appreciate that it's being published now.

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Speaker 1: And I wonder have they read it?

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Speaker 4: Have they had you on? Have they invited you to

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come on to discuss it?

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Speaker 3: They have?

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Speaker 1: They have not?

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Speaker 5: They have they have.

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Speaker 2: We have gone to them any number of times and

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said we would love to come on the show to

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discuss They obviously were where President and First Lady Biden

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went for their prebuttle of the book, and we thought

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it would be it would only.

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Speaker 1: Be fair to have us on.

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Speaker 2: But the View, and for that matter, Fox News seems

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to enjoy using our scoops talking about every thing we

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learned in the months of investigative journalism and what we're

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revealing in this book, but they're declining to have us

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on to discuss it, which is regrettable because I think

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this is an important thing for people to come to

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terms with when it comes to the view or to

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explore in terms of the depth of what we Alex

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and I have been able to find out. In terms

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of Fox News, I will say that there is clearly

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a contingent of people on the left who want to

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bury their head in the sand on this issue and

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pretend it didn't happen, and pretend that it's not part

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of the reason why Donald Trump and the Republicans controlled

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the White House, in the House, in the Senate, and

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why Democratic poll numbers are in the toilet. I think

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that is part of why Democrats are where they are.

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This gas lighting all right.

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Speaker 1: David Axelrod, Obama's guy, said that we should set aside

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the discussion of the allegations in the book because of

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Biden's cancer diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: Kelly asked, do you agree with that? Well, if I didn't,

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I don't think i'd be here. I mean, I think

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what happened.

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Speaker 1: The country here, you do?

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Speaker 2: I think we need to be discussing this. I think

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obviously we have sympathy for President Biden, both in terms

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of the prostate cancer and in terms of whatever other

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health issue he is grappling with. And we talked to

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many neurologists who spent you talk about how you are

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on a text chain with your producers. The night of

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the debate, we talked to one of the top neurologists

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in the world, who you know, has is on a

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text chain with a number of other top neurologists, and

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they spent much of twenty twenty four trying to figure

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out what was wrong with Joe Biden, whether it's louis

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body dementia or Parkinson's or something parkinsonian. And they don't

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know then they're not qualified to say from a distance.

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Speaker 1: But it's a.

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Speaker 2: Serious question and the larger issue of transparency and group

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think questions for the Democratic Party and the public and

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the news media. These are all really important conversations to have.

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I don't think that our story, I don't think that

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our book is mean. I think it is just accurate

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and clear eyed. And I think this is a conversation

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the country needs to have, not just about President Biden,

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but about all presidents.

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Speaker 4: It's like I tell my kids, it is not mean

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to say something that is true but not necessarily complimentary.

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I mean, it's not if it's true and you are

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not saying it with the intention to hurt somebody, it's

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not quote mean. They're not going to get away with that. Sorry, Alex,

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you wanted a weigh in, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I actually just wanted to say one more thing about

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the media coverage and this question, which is, you know,

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when Jake came to me with this idea. You know,

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on every beat, there are some suck ups, there's some

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people that are lazy. But I never felt that Jake,

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even if he fell short on the age issue, I

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never felt he carried the water for the Biden people.

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And I hope your listeners who may be skeptical of

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Jake at least like give the book a chance.

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Speaker 1: Give the book a chance. And then Tapper explains the

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value of the book while accepting the criticism that he

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missed the real story in real time.

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Speaker 2: People were shocked on June twenty seven, twenty twenty four,

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because there was, to a degree a cover up of

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how bad his decline had been. So even if and if,

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even though many folks including you, were covering this. It

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still was shocking what people saw on June twenty seven.

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And the only other point I'll say is I'm not

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disagreeing with the fact that conservatives were right on this

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and that people in the legacy media, including myself, should

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have been paying closer attention and more attention. I'm granting

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all of that. But the reason why I think there

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is interest in this book is because people want to

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know more beyond what they saw in front of the camera.

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They want to know how this happened, and I think

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I think that is what we provide through this deeply sourced,

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unflinching account of what really went on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I agree with him on this. This has

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to occur, and there has to be space for Democrats

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to come to terms with this. And yes, people held

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accountable for whatever roles they played in advancing the cover up.

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All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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