WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:06.280 Being like Jack Webb, just moving from Fatima to Chesterfields. 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:12.000 Ask not what your country can do for you, ask 3 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:13.960 what you can do for your country. 4 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:18.519 Mister Gorbuchaw, Tear down this wall. 5 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:23.199 It's the Ricorche Podcast with Peter Robinson and Charles S. Cook. 6 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:25.440 I'm James Lilacs. Since there's a lot of legal stuff 7 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:27.320 in the news this week, of course we've got to 8 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:29.399 talk to John and you. So let's ever so was 9 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:29.920 a podcast. 10 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:32.719 Was asked directly, and he has said he wouldn't pardon 11 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:35.200 his son if he gets convicted. 12 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:38.159 Let's quit see what happens if he loves Yeah, I mean, 13 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:39.240 but he said it. 14 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:43.640 And this pardon is all about Joe Biden protecting Joe Biden. 15 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:46.439 It's shameful and completely unsurprising. 16 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:50.640 Ladies, gentlemen, as you know I'm in the final weeks 17 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:51.359 of my presidency. 18 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:53.840 You don't have to clap for that. You can if 19 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:54.200 you want. 20 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:58.640 Welcome everybody. It's the Ricochet Podcast, number seven, one hundred 21 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:03.079 and eighteen. I'm James Lilacs, overly enunciating for some reason 22 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:05.680 here in Minneapolis where it's cold and crisp and uh 23 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:10.000 trending towards Christmasy a little dusting of snow. We like 24 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:12.319 to have our white Christmases. After that, we're done with it, 25 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:14.200 get it out of here, bring the spring on. But 26 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:18.719 that's months and months away. However, next month brings what well, 27 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:23.400 an inauguration, and then a new era begins. Here to 28 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.159 discuss that cast the rize forward as well as backwards 29 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.560 are Peter Robinson and Charles C. W. Cook gentlemen. 30 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:33.200 Welcome, Thank you, James, Charlie Jesus. 31 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.200 Very polite of you, James, thank you? What was very 32 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:40.879 polite of me saying welcome? Oh well, that is my duty, 33 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:43.799 I guess. I mean you will just raw dogg it 34 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:44.280 as tam. 35 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:46.840 I appreciate. No. 36 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:49.400 So we had Thanksgiving before we get to the future. 37 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.079 Everybody knows that Thanksgiving is you know, it's done, it's over, 38 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:55.840 we're moving towards Christmas. But yet we ought to stop 39 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.879 and think and wonder exactly what we were thankful for. 40 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:06.640 Briefly, Peter, Oh, well, I mean, my crude political is 41 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:11.120 self is thankful that the other side lost, and I 42 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:15.840 really am thankful for that. Honestly, the uh, the pall 43 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.879 that lifted, just a feeling, there is a feeling of 44 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:24.800 I'm in my x feed, Mark Andriesen is making this 45 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:26.560 point a couple of times a day. But here in 46 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.719 Silicon Valley there is a feeling of renewed energies. Now, 47 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:32.680 I know that that may not sit well with the 48 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:34.840 rest of the country, and there are plenty of people 49 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:37.599 here in Silicon Valley about whom I have my own reservations, 50 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:40.360 and some companies about whom I have my own reservations. 51 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:45.879 But the notion that people are free er, much freeer, 52 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:49.639 feel freer, will be freer to invest as they choose 53 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.000 to invest, to gather capital, to hire engineers to start 54 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:59.319 new projects, is quite a thing, and to my surpproblem 55 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:02.680 more than I I would have expected. You can actually 56 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:06.199 feel the difference. Then, of course the usual things which 57 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:10.560 are more important to me but less interesting to everybody else, 58 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:12.680 which is the health of each of my children. Nobody's 59 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:14.840 in jail, nobody's in the hospital, We're doing fine as 60 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:17.919 a family. All that, of course matters enormously, but is 61 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:19.960 of no interest in anybody but me. 62 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:24.280 Chars like spoken like a true privileged member of the 63 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:28.240 oligarchical overclass doesn't have to worry about being sent to Auschwitz. 64 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:31.800 On the Rio Grande Auschwitz. Ah, yes, yes, Charles. 65 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:34.840 What am I grateful for? That's a fellow member of 66 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:41.680 the overclass. Well, I'm very grateful for my family. I 67 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:47.080 am grateful that I have a job. But you know, 68 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:49.039 the thing that struck me this year more than any 69 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:52.240 other was inspired by a comment from Rich Larry on 70 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:56.280 the Editors podcast, which was actually in connection to a 71 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:01.240 discussion of space rockets going up near where? And he 72 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:02.919 said to me, did you ever think you would be 73 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:04.759 able to walk out of your back door and you 74 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:08.879 would be able to watch rocket launches? And so one No, 75 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.719 I wanted to live in America, and I do, and 76 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.560 I'm very, very grateful for this. This year, I felt 77 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.360 especially grateful for this that of all the things when 78 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:21.120 I was a little kid, I wanted more than anything 79 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:23.759 before I had any politics or any real conception of 80 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:24.480 the adult world. 81 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:27.199 I just wanted to live in America. And I do. 82 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.079 And that's a magical thing. Yeah. Yeah. 83 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:32.240 What I love about the rockets launching is that it's 84 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:38.600 become so ordinary, It's become almost banal to see this 85 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:42.920 slender tower rising on a pillar of flame to go 86 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:47.160 into the imperium and deposit its litter of satellites connecting 87 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.800 to the world. What I love about it, of course, 88 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:52.759 I love the fact that Elon Musk in the back 89 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:55.199 of his head is motivated by the same sort of 90 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:57.879 sci fi tropes that I probably grew up with. Is 91 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:01.360 that you land a rocket on a pad with its 92 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.199 legs that come out of the side like they did 93 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:07.199 in Destination Moon. I'm surprised that he hasn't put up 94 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:09.480 something and looks exactly like the rocket and Tintins and 95 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:14.800 Adventures to the Moon. I never cease to marvel at 96 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:19.199 seeing these cylinders come from the sky and right themselves 97 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:25.160 and land on a platform on the ocean. It's astonishing, 98 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:29.639 and I love the fact that it's absolutely ordinary. People 99 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:32.240 always say, you know, in the future, where's my flying car? 100 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:34.079 You don't want a flying car, trust me, you don't. 101 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:36.040 You don't want people to be up there buzzing a round. 102 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:40.319 I mean, if anybody actually remembers Jetson's flying cars were 103 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:42.720 actually pretty horrible because you were stuck in traffic all 104 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.879 the time in this narrow little band and everybody bunching 105 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:46.959 it up together. So no, I don't want that. I 106 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.079 don't want that at all. But I mean, when you 107 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:52.800 look at the size of the starship compared to the 108 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:57.639 Saturn five. You goggle and you realize we're back. We're back, 109 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:01.199 and this is an extremely consequential moment in human history. 110 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:04.439 Have you noticed, James, that I seem to be winning 111 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:07.519 an argument that you and I have been having for 112 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:13.000 perhaps a decade now. You keep saying space travel, space travel, 113 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.000 the romance of it, it touches something in our souls. 114 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:22.120 And I keep saying, space travel, but only if financed 115 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:26.639 with private money. I'm done. During the Cold War, it 116 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:28.920 was an active war to go to the moon. Fine, 117 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:31.560 we needed to do it in some basic way to 118 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:35.800 defeat the Soviets. That's over. And I keep arguing, fine, 119 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:39.439 go explore space, but not with the public's money. And 120 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:43.600 the world has taken Apparently Elon has been listening to 121 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.279 you and me debate this for over these many years. 122 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.120 Well, good for him and good for you, and yes, 123 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.639 I'm happy however we get there. I wouldn't have mined 124 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:53.639 the expenditure of public funds because I think it's an 125 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:56.720 act of sort of civilizational philanthropy. But that's just me 126 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:59.079 and everybody's got their little carve out. You know, I 127 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:00.920 don't want you to spend on that. But this is 128 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.319 my pet project which tickles my gizzard. So do this. Yes, 129 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:06.319 well here we are then good, so we're all grateful. 130 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:09.360 I was actually not in America. I was in Mexico 131 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:10.720 on Thanksgiving Day? 132 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.079 And was that why you were so to you look 133 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:15.399 rather be basted yourself? 134 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:18.079 It was? It was. It was wonderful, and they put 135 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:20.920 on a Thanksgiving dinner for the Americans who come to 136 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:25.439 come to the resort, and it's always there. We're in Mexico, Cancun, which, 137 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.560 as I say in my upcoming podcast, doesn't really qualify 138 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:30.920 as going to Mexico. It's getting into one little sealed, 139 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:34.279 pressurized tube and going to a place, getting briefly scammed, 140 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:36.360 getting out of the scam, and then taking a car 141 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:38.720 to a nice little walled garden where you can pretend 142 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:43.839 you're in Mexico. But I still will take it napped 143 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:47.399 and I'm you know, we were, We actually were, but 144 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:50.800 we got out of it, and Barren hangs it. Well, 145 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:53.439 inasmuch as we were the do I have to go 146 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:57.319 into this. We were the victim of a scam at 147 00:07:57.319 --> 00:07:59.959 the airport. Uh And by victim, I mean to say 148 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.279 that I walked right into it and actually had the 149 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:05.480 misfortune of trust trusting a man with a badge. Uh, 150 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:08.040 never trust a man with a badge in Mexico, is 151 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:11.079 what I have learned since now we were not actually 152 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:14.319 probably in any physical peril. We wouldn't we ended up 153 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.120 would have ended up spending twice as much money as 154 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:18.920 we needed to get to our resort, but we would 155 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:21.519 have got there. But it was. It was still a 156 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:23.600 thing that makes me look back and say, ha ha, 157 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:28.879 you old can't coon hand, you idiot. But we had 158 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:32.039 a Thanksgiving dinner in Mexico which was amusing because they 159 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:36.919 can't get it right and it's not that hard. But 160 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:41.399 they had a turkey that was The stuffing was basically hagas. 161 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.559 That's okay, I love hagus too, but it wasn't but 162 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:47.799 it's not but it's not is great. 163 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.320 Un American to love has Charlie, Well, it's illegal. 164 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:53.840 It was for me pizza because it's a Scottish dish. 165 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:55.639 I'm pretty it's a former Englishman. 166 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:58.799 You can't get it here because it's illegal. They don't 167 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:02.120 allow you know, loves foods in America. But there's this 168 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.279 stuffing was wrong. There was no pumpkin pie. There was 169 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:07.159 pumpkin cake and everything was all the details were a 170 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:08.440 little off, but it was you know, it was like 171 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.039 it was like being in the zoo run by aliens, 172 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.279 where they've studied enough of your culture to be able 173 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:14.759 to try to make you feel at home in the 174 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:16.840 special day. So that was great. 175 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.360 Yes, May I mend my thanks? Yes, And it's your 176 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:23.080 tales of Mexico that bring this to mind. It has 177 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:26.399 been in my mind the last couple of days post Thanksgiving, 178 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:32.240 but still I'm thankful for it. Survey the world and 179 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:39.039 France is in a constitutional crisis. The Fifth Republic does 180 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.399 not see the Constitution of the Fifth Republic does not 181 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:44.559 seem to have taken into account the kind of circumstance 182 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:47.039 in which a government has fallen, but it is not 183 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:49.240 legal for the President of the Republic to call a 184 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.879 new election for something like a year. Germany is facing 185 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:57.159 a series of elections in which the general expectation is 186 00:09:57.200 --> 00:10:00.519 that the two parties that the Part of the Right 187 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:01.919 and the Party of the Left, will have to go 188 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:04.320 into coalition to avoid the Party of what everybody is 189 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.879 calling the far right. In other words, we have paralysis. 190 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.080 The government of Prime Minkre Starmer only a few months 191 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:14.840 old in Britain is now polling below, well below thirty 192 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:19.399 percent paralysis in Britain. In Mexico, conversation with a friend 193 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:22.960 of mine who an American who ran the American branch 194 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.159 of a bank in Mexico City, and every single person 195 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:30.399 of the rank of vice president and above had either 196 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:36.639 been kidnapped or had a family member kidnapped. Mexico beautiful 197 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:41.120 country where some large portion of the economy is run 198 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:46.320 by cartels, and everybody knows it. Gentlemen, we live in 199 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.360 top country. The country that is not having a constitutional crisis, 200 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:55.159 despite all the nonsense, all the claims that Donald Trump 201 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:58.440 would represent a threat to democracy. The country that is 202 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:02.559 functioning is this one. It is good to be in 203 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:03.519 country number one. 204 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:07.279 Mm hmmm. I'll give you an example of this. You 205 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:09.720 left out Syria, of course, well we left out the 206 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:12.679 whole Middle East. But Syria is in a perilous state 207 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:14.200 at the moment, and it's going to be interesting to 208 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:16.960 see how that shakes out. But while in Kancun, I 209 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:18.720 had the con I had the opportunity to talk to 210 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:21.120 people from every nation because a lot of people come 211 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:22.399 Germans come there. 212 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:25.279 Oh, I didn't know that that's it's popular with the Europeans. 213 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:26.759 I didn't realize long. 214 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:30.159 Way to get there, Brits talk to some Britz talked 215 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.440 to a lot of Canadians, everybody who's unhappy with their country. 216 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:36.720 Everybody was unhappy with their country, and across all kinds 217 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:38.559 of demographic and money lines. There's some you know, this 218 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.919 man Mountain Kinoko is talking to it. The bar Slam 219 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:43.799 of Tequila was a miner in Manitoba. Guy who's down 220 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:47.480 there with a pickaxe, and they all are drastically unhappy 221 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:50.440 with their with their country, and they're all really giving 222 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:53.399 a thumbs up to America and for Donald Trump. Now 223 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:57.000 there was a German I was speaking to who was 224 00:11:58.000 --> 00:11:59.720 when I finally got him going, and it took a 225 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:04.440 little while. Uh went on a rant about decarbonization and 226 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:07.960 renewables that was just epic in its scope and scale, 227 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:10.480 about the idiocy of it, and how they've undercut their 228 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.320 own security and their own industrial capacity and made themselves 229 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:14.960 rely on others, and how it isn't going to work 230 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.080 and the numbers aren't there, and it's absolutely I mean, 231 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:20.720 it's just it was, it was, it was, It was operatic. 232 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.559 And I asked him, I said, wow, yeah, I agree 233 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:26.200 with you. What do you what do you do for 234 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.960 living in Germany? And he looked down and then he 235 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:33.080 looked up and he said, I sell photovoltaic rooftop equipment 236 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:38.320 solar and there you go, there you go, uh, you know, 237 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.639 complicit in it up to his neck and knowing exactly 238 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:45.600 what's happening. But that seemed to sum up some of 239 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:54.720 the some of the attitudes anyway. Charles, Yes, right, well, he. 240 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:56.759 Likes the regime just because he has to carry out 241 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.919 his orders, just fulfilling. 242 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:00.799 Orders that have been placed by legitim customers. 243 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.759 Charlie, Charlie, it was seventy years ago. Let it go, Let. 244 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:06.919 It go, absolutely not. I will never let it go. 245 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:12.720 I grew up with this being the running joke. Frequently 246 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:16.200 returned to running joke. We have junkies, but every Saturday 247 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.440 afternoon we had Dad's Army Lolo and it was just 248 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:26.360 make fun of the Germans day and the local pub 249 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:29.799 that we would go to, even when I was a kid. 250 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:33.679 In the bathroom, the men's bathroom, all over the wall, 251 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:39.080 they have a collection framed each one of Gallow's humor 252 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:42.440 cartoons drawn for the newspapers during. 253 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:42.960 World War two. 254 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:45.720 During the war, and of course that's the point at 255 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:51.320 which it wasn't funny at all. And still the British 256 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:54.440 managed to make joke after joke after joke about the 257 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:55.720 Germans and Hitler and Son. 258 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:57.120 So I will not let it go. 259 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:04.559 Actually, well there you go. I would like to say 260 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:08.960 something about something, but Rob isn't here, so I'm not 261 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.720 even going. I want Rob to know that there's not 262 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:15.080 even a commercial ad segue for him to spoil. I 263 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:18.159 want him, in whatever monastic cell he is right now, 264 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.440 to just all of a sudden, bolt upright and bang 265 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:22.600 his head on the bunk above and say it. I 266 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:26.360 could be spoiling the segue, but I'm not because frankly, 267 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:30.440 I just want to stop and tell you that Charles 268 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:32.320 is going to give what I believe to be on 269 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:35.759 the Flagship Podcast his first personal endorsement. Now you're wondering 270 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:37.559 for what he is going to be for a fine 271 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.320 fine you know, golf cart accessory, Is it going to 272 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:44.320 be for a great American monitor or what he drinks? 273 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:46.320 But we can find out that you know what it is. 274 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:53.360 It's sheets. M h. And if you're thinking, oh, I've 275 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:55.440 heard this, no you haven't. No, you haven't because I'm 276 00:14:55.440 --> 00:15:00.080 here to tell you about Cozy Earth. Cozy Earth we 277 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:01.720 have a goal, and the goal is to help you 278 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.679 create a sanctuary within your home, a refuge from the 279 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:08.519 demands of the outside world. Cozy Earth understands the significance 280 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:11.840 of finding comfort and tranquility in our hectic lives. You're 281 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:14.960 five to nine, as we like, the college should consist 282 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:19.799 of relaxation, rejuvenation and unwinding and embracing a sense of calm. 283 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.240 And with Cozy Earth, you can transform your space into 284 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:27.799 an elevated haven or serenity and renewable intertwined effortlessly. Cozy 285 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:31.679 Earth sheets are so breathable you'll sleep several degrees cooler. 286 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:35.039 And I imagine that matters in Florida, does it us? Charles? 287 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.279 Would you like to tell people about your personal experience 288 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:38.799 with Cozy Earth sheets. 289 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:40.679 I love these sheets, but you know I did the 290 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:45.360 smart thing when I was choosing them, which was not 291 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:47.840 to choose them, but instead let my wife choose them. 292 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:51.240 So she use sexist pig is what a thing. 293 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:53.720 To say, because if I had if I had ordered 294 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:58.120 Cozy Earth sheets of my own choosing, I would have 295 00:15:58.120 --> 00:15:59.919 got it wrong. You see, not because the sheets would 296 00:15:59.919 --> 00:16:01.720 have been wrong, because they're all terrific, but because I 297 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:03.360 would have got the wrong color or got the wrong 298 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:04.600 size or got ones. 299 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:04.840 You know. 300 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.960 So I said to my wife, and I don't just 301 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:10.799 need to endorse this on behalf of myself. Although I 302 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:13.200 do love these sheets and they are nice and cool, 303 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:15.639 but my wife absolutely loves them. 304 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:17.840 Was extremely excited at the prospect. 305 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:20.799 So far from being sexist picked she jumped with joy 306 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.200 when I said, you can go onto the internet and 307 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.720 choose some sheets and then put them on the bed 308 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:28.559 and then sleep in them, which we do every night, 309 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:33.679 and staying cool is actually extremely important and quite difficult 310 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.360 sometimes here. So cozy sheets are terrific. Everything James said 311 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:38.440 is true. Go buy them. 312 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:40.480 Well, there you have it. 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You get a post purchase survey. 332 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:36.000 You get one of those. 333 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:37.920 Tell him you heard about Cozy Earth from the guys 334 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:40.480 at the Ricochet Podcast, and we thank Cozy Earth for 335 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:45.440 sponsoring this the Ricochet Podcast. I now we happily bring 336 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:47.440 to the pot. Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we had 337 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:49.920 that other guest. Oh, I know. 338 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:52.960 The only reason I'm here is because someone canceled last Yeah, so. 339 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.440 All right, we got John you, Professor of Law UC Berkeley, 340 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.960 also seen your research fellow Civitas Institute, University of Tech 341 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:04.880 at Austin and a non resident Senior Fellow at the 342 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.559 American Enterprise Institute. I hope they upgrade you at some point. 343 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:10.039 He's the author of several books, most recently Defender in 344 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:13.200 Chief Donald Trump's Fight for Presidential Power. Hey John, how 345 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.039 are you doing good? Good? 346 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:15.880 How are you guys? 347 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:16.359 Got? 348 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:20.319 I can't Are we talking about Pardons or Penny Penny? 349 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:24.440 Well, let's let's talk Penny first, because Pardons is bigger 350 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:27.400 and thicker and richer and deeper. But wow, are we 351 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.240 gonna have a mistrial? And then and then they're gonna 352 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:31.519 do this the smart thing and say, nah, we're not 353 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:32.319 gonna try him again. 354 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:36.559 This is why electing prosecutors in the DA can be 355 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:40.000 an important thing. Because here's a guy, Alvin Bragg, who 356 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:43.519 put Penny on trial, I think for doing something heroic. 357 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:46.680 He now has a choice if this goes into a mistrial, 358 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:51.400 whether to retry Penny again, continue taking his freedom away right, 359 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:56.440 put him on trial for his freedom for years, or 360 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:58.440 whether you, I think, do the right thing and use 361 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:02.319 his discretion to drop the case. Here's the guy, this 362 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:05.279 is the same Alvin braggart course, who decided to spend 363 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:07.920 years and millions of dollars going after Donald Trump in 364 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:12.440 the hush money case and not bringing certain felonies for 365 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:15.160 a violent crime in New York City and Manhattan while 366 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:19.279 pursuing people like Donald Trump. So I think, unfortunately this 367 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:22.519 guy is this guy Alvan Bragg is probably gonna retry 368 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:26.119 Penny again. If this mister just declaire. 369 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:30.400 Yeah, well, because maybe they're not completely stupid and a 370 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:32.680 wetted finger can tell them that there is a there 371 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:34.640 is something of a vibe shift even in New York 372 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:38.599 when it comes. I mean, then I'm one. I would 373 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:44.640 love to hear exactly what the jury's jurors are discussing precisely. Yes, 374 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:48.240 how many of them? The herodon who got up there 375 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:50.759 and you know, made the case case about the white 376 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:54.160 man doing this thing. It's prime a facia. I don't 377 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:55.640 think that they had anything with it. Again, I'm not 378 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:56.119 a lawyer. 379 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:59.400 Yeah, so can you tell John a lawyer that you are? 380 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:01.720 Or can you can you give us I can speculate? 381 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:05.240 Can you give us informed speculation? How could it be 382 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:07.240 that there are any jurors at all who want to 383 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:09.519 convict this guy. 384 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:14.240 Tru's not a legal question, that's a psychology question. Well, 385 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:16.559 all right, or you're not a psychologist either, Peter, although 386 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:20.680 you play one on TV. So here here's the thing. 387 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:26.039 So for a hungury or what we're seeing now, you 388 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:28.519 only need one person actually to hold out. So they 389 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:30.880 may only be one person on the jury who wants 390 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.920 to convict I see, and eleven other people who don't. 391 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:37.039 So hungary just means that the jury couldn't come to agreement, 392 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:39.640 all right, And that's why you can That's why the 393 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:42.759 usual possibility after is you can have a whole new 394 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:45.920 trial and try with a different jury. So it's neither 395 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:49.920 an acquittal or a conviction. Now, why this is happen? 396 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:53.039 How long can the judge just a technical question? How 397 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:55.759 long can the judge? I guess Actually I was about 398 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:57.359 to say, permit this to go on, but it's actually 399 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.720 the judge who's insisting that they continue to deliberate. When 400 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:04.680 does the judge say, all right, that's it, hung jury on? 401 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:05.039