Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow.
Speaker 2: And I'm Catherine Jileco.
Speaker 1: Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick
Speaker 1: from our archives, and a parenting or pop culture tidbit
Speaker 1: or two. Let's start with Catherine's library find of the week.
Speaker 2: So it may be spring right now, I mean it
Speaker 2: happens late in my corner of the world, but I
Speaker 2: would say we're pretty much there. But I'm going to
Speaker 2: mention a sort of wind Try themed book today. It
Speaker 2: is called Bear in a Bathrobe, And I freely urge
Speaker 2: you to go look at the cover and see this
Speaker 2: bear and this bathrobe and the tiny pink ice skates
Speaker 2: that the bear is wearing on the cover, which is
Speaker 2: probably what caught my eye first. This this bear. You know,
Speaker 2: it's winter there they're gonna have this bear is ready
Speaker 2: to hibernate. He's like, he's got his his robe. It
Speaker 2: has pockets for his snacks, it has like a hood
Speaker 2: to keep his his head warm. And he's like, sweet,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be inside and I'm gonna hibernate and cozy.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be cozy. And his friends are like, oh,
Speaker 2: come on, we're gonna play outside. We're gonna go ice skating,
Speaker 2: And he is just very first of all, enjoying his
Speaker 2: cozy indoor time and also you know, worried about what
Speaker 2: could happen if he went skating. He could he could
Speaker 2: hurt himself. So but then the book, of course is
Speaker 2: about how to uh step outside of that comfort zone
Speaker 2: and try new things and even if you you know,
Speaker 2: take risks and and but it's also like the ways
Speaker 2: to sort of mitigate the risk. So yes, yeah, so
Speaker 2: I think it doesn't look very sweet.
Speaker 1: Want to be about how everybody is different and some
Speaker 1: people get to do things that they want to do,
Speaker 1: and don't let peer pressure force you out of your
Speaker 1: cozy den onto the ice. Tell people that you're a
Speaker 1: bear and this is what bears do, and hope they
Speaker 1: have a good time, and then snuggle back down and
Speaker 1: put on Netflix and enjoy the winter.
Speaker 2: No, it's not that, I guess it's not that, because
Speaker 2: that's not what children's books do.
Speaker 1: No, it's not we need I need a line of
Speaker 1: children's books for WIMPs, you know, to let your kid
Speaker 1: know it's okay, it's okay. If you don't want to
Speaker 1: be at bat, you can just stay out in the outfield, honey,
Speaker 1: it's fine. Or you know, if you want to just
Speaker 1: hit and sit in the hoccy penalty box and not
Speaker 1: ever do anything, you're good. Yes, Instead, we have to
Speaker 1: inspire our kids to.
Speaker 2: Break the roles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go boldly forward, your friends make you do things.
Speaker 1: It's fine. What could go wrong? Yes, it's a cute girl.
Speaker 1: Drive by and say hey byre one, come in your phone.
Speaker 1: Understand this all. Please listen to our episode to you earlier.
Speaker 2: I will also give a slight side recommendation or mention,
Speaker 2: let's say, to Linda Holmes, who is someone we have
Speaker 2: been listening to for a long time on NPR and
Speaker 2: has now written her third novel. Oh, and it's.
Speaker 1: Going on Audible right now.
Speaker 2: It's back after this and the main character is a
Speaker 2: podcast producer. Yay, Yeah, I mean, and it's an enjoyable read.
Speaker 2: You know. It's a romance like her other ones have been,
Speaker 2: like kind of a rom com. And I like the
Speaker 2: characters a lot, you know. I like the way that
Speaker 2: she the dialogue I think is really she has a
Speaker 2: good ear for it, you know, the sort of like
Speaker 2: obstacle that is placed before the couple. I didn't find
Speaker 2: to be particularly convincing, and that was kind of the
Speaker 2: problem I had with the other with their previous one,
Speaker 2: which is called Flying, Flying Solo. So I think that's
Speaker 2: like a weak area, but it's still it's still an
Speaker 2: enjoyable read, and especially if you care about podcasts.
Speaker 1: I see that on audible in the audiobook she narrates
Speaker 1: it herself this time.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
Speaker 1: I think the last couple of times she had Julia Whalen,
Speaker 1: who now has her own audiobook enterprises. Yes, so maybe
Speaker 1: that's why. I don't know, but yes, I shall have
Speaker 1: to put that on my wish list. I just finished
Speaker 1: reading last night. I finished listening to The Triumph of
Speaker 1: Seeds Seed. You talked about those lasts, then, by all means,
Speaker 1: go listen to that book. It is interesting but also
Speaker 1: something you can just sort of have on and if
Speaker 1: you don't get every single word of it, it's not
Speaker 1: going to make you feel bad, right, So I like
Speaker 1: audio books like that. Sometimes I'm doing other things, you know.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Anyway, so a good time for me to look for
Speaker 1: another book, right and with that book, I will undoubt
Speaker 1: it later be drinking coffee, and I have a coffee related.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's quite a recommendation, but a discussion. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've mentioned numerous times I think that I am enjoying
Speaker 1: my pour over coffee set up here. I feel very
Speaker 1: very involved with my drink when I take my little
Speaker 1: metal filter and I put it on top of my cup,
Speaker 1: and I put the coffee grounds in it, and I
Speaker 1: pour the hot water over it, and I wait for
Speaker 1: it to trickle through, and the coffee has always tasted
Speaker 1: pretty good afterwards. But default in that system is that
Speaker 1: it's a pain in the bleep to clean out the
Speaker 1: metal filters. I could put a paper filter in, but
Speaker 1: then you kind of taste the paper filter. And also
Speaker 1: it's you know, making trash, which I don't need to
Speaker 1: make because I could just use the metal filters and
Speaker 1: wash them out. So I've been pretty happy with that
Speaker 1: except when I'm actually cleaning out the filters. But I
Speaker 1: was looking on a coffee website I go to from
Speaker 1: time to time, and I saw this thing called AeroPress.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard of an AeroPress, but
Speaker 1: it's like a hard plastic tube that you set on
Speaker 1: top of the cup and you put a lid on
Speaker 1: the bottom of it with a little filter in it,
Speaker 1: a little round filter, and then you put the coffee
Speaker 1: on top. You pour the water into this tube, and
Speaker 1: then you take another thing and plunge the cop punge
Speaker 1: it down into the tube so that the coffee gets
Speaker 1: forced through the filter and into the cup. And then
Speaker 1: when you're done, amazingly, you just take the whole thing
Speaker 1: to the trash and you just push it a little
Speaker 1: harder and pop the little puck with the coffee, and
Speaker 1: the filter just pops out all by itself. Very minimal cleanup.
Speaker 1: That sounded great to me. It's still a pour over thing,
Speaker 1: but you know, less cleanup. He doesn't want less cleanup.
Speaker 1: So I got myself, ordered myself one of these things.
Speaker 1: It finally came, made myself some coffee. Boy was it easy?
Speaker 2: Boy?
Speaker 1: Was the cleanup easy? Just as advertised? Pop out it goes,
Speaker 1: and everything's relatively clean. Sadly, however, the coffee tastes.
Speaker 2: Offul oh no.
Speaker 1: So I did some research and it does say works
Speaker 1: best on this grind of coffee, and I had a
Speaker 1: much finer grind of coffee, which means nothing to me.
Speaker 1: I don't grind my own beans. I just get stuff.
Speaker 1: I get this flavor of the month coffee from Blackout Coffee,
Speaker 1: and I like it very much, but it's very finely ground,
Speaker 1: and Grock explained to me kindly that the more ground
Speaker 1: it is, the more oils and flavors and stuff comes
Speaker 1: out of it when it is hit by hot water.
Speaker 1: And so this is not the coffee I have, is
Speaker 1: not good for this particular device. But Corot gave me
Speaker 1: some suggestions, and you know, you could spend less time
Speaker 1: brewing it. You could put some more boiling water in
Speaker 1: it after it's in the cup. You could plunge it
Speaker 1: slower or faster. I don't remember. There was things you
Speaker 1: could do, and I did them and it was better,
Speaker 1: but it was still bitter, just a really bitter taste.
Speaker 1: And if you look up AeroPress, it will say, well,
Speaker 1: if you use fine coffee, it's going to be bitter.
Speaker 1: So it's my own fault. And I do have some
Speaker 1: less fine coffee that I use sometimes, and I can
Speaker 1: make a decent cup with the AeroPress with that, so
Speaker 1: I'm still sort of using it on certain coffees, but
Speaker 1: I can't use it on the coffee I drink every day,
Speaker 1: which is sad. Yeah, but if you are a person
Speaker 1: who grinds their own beans, which not enough time in
Speaker 1: the day you want to fiddle with getting just the
Speaker 1: right grind for the AeroPress, you could probably get yourself
Speaker 1: a pretty tasty cup of coffee from it, and the
Speaker 1: popping the filter and the used coffee into the trash
Speaker 1: can is very satisfying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it would be, yes.
Speaker 1: But you had Again, it's something that works best if
Speaker 1: you use a large scoop of coffee, which I can't
Speaker 1: do with the finally ground coffee because it's not only
Speaker 1: bitter but extremely strong, so I use less and then
Speaker 1: it doesn't pop off so much as it kind of
Speaker 1: dribbles off. It's still easier to clean, but not as satisfying. Right,
Speaker 1: So a mixed review. If you use it as they
Speaker 1: tell you to use it, it's great. Right, you try
Speaker 1: to use it differently, you're going to have a subpar experience.
Speaker 1: And boy, there may have been a time in my
Speaker 1: life when I could have drank a cup of strong,
Speaker 1: bitter coffee, but that ain't now. I'm a coffee wimp.
Speaker 1: Lots of milk, lots of extra water. Sure, pour it in, right,
Speaker 1: let's weaken it down to a mild cocoa Flavorshell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So anyway, that is my is my aero press review
Speaker 1: us as advertised. Yeah, and don't assume that it'll be fine, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know you could just put some coffee in it,
Speaker 1: pour some water in it, just to do that.
Speaker 2: Exactly. That is. That does sound very satisfying.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: So what do we have from the archives this week?
Speaker 2: We have what we called at the time, the Critter Report.
Speaker 2: We have been kind of, you know, looking for something
Speaker 2: like this because we both have critters in our homes
Speaker 2: that we like to talk about.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we have often even without any excuse.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: So now that you have heard our critters on this
Speaker 1: very podcast, although they are not you've drugged them today
Speaker 1: so that they don't interfere.
Speaker 2: Yes, I gave I gave the one a little bit
Speaker 2: of a downer, just because the barking is part of
Speaker 2: just an extreme anxiety, like it's this dog is I
Speaker 2: don't know, and my husband swears up and down that
Speaker 2: she doesn't do this when I Am not home.
Speaker 1: So it's it's like.
Speaker 2: She has separation anxiety, but it's together anxiety with me
Speaker 2: only so.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a problem when by eight.
Speaker 2: Thirty in the morning, she had already been taken outside
Speaker 2: and played with and fed and watered and everything, you know,
Speaker 2: multiple times, lots of you know, as much playtime as
Speaker 2: I could give her, and she was still like just
Speaker 2: look out the window, racing, racing from window to window,
Speaker 2: freaking out. And I knew I had like a full
Speaker 2: day ahead of me. I was just like, today is
Speaker 2: going to be a downer kind of a day. It
Speaker 2: does seem to be effected. I mean, we have already
Speaker 2: she gets like calming treats, you know, we have. We've
Speaker 2: tried a lot of things. Let's just say, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: we have the calming things. We try to give her
Speaker 2: just physical activity, mental stimulation by giving her like puzzle toys,
Speaker 2: and but some days that's that's not enough. It's the
Speaker 2: thing that has finally gotten me to move to the
Speaker 2: upstairs office space to work, which you know, I've been
Speaker 2: resisting for years, Like there's no there's I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but you know, I always just wanted to work downstairs
Speaker 2: at the dining room table. It's like I'm by the kitchen,
Speaker 2: I can see out the windows. It's just like a
Speaker 2: nice I don't know, I just like it. And when
Speaker 2: we were in a position to leave the door the
Speaker 2: back door open and let the dogs go in and
Speaker 2: out with the doggy door, like then I would be there,
Speaker 2: and so all that has changed. Yeah, so we do
Speaker 2: find that if I work upstairs that helps a little
Speaker 2: bit with the oh geez, freaking out at the windows situation.
Speaker 1: Why does she just do it when you're there?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm going to start a training class
Speaker 2: with her in a week and luck we got out.
Speaker 2: Because if she's clearly so smart, like she's such a
Speaker 2: there has to be a way to teach her not
Speaker 2: to panic, you know. So that's what I want to learn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's rough.
Speaker 2: So that's maybe I know, I just you also, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it's like I feel bad, you know. I
Speaker 2: obviously the barking is annoying, and but it's more like
Speaker 2: she's so stressed out and I don't I don't want
Speaker 2: her to be that way, you know. So so yeah,
Speaker 2: you hope to be able to settle her down a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a very barky pooch, but it wasn't anxiety.
Speaker 1: It was just you know, I think she heard things
Speaker 1: very sharply and so wanted to just inform us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of a truck three blocks away, right, and you know,
Speaker 1: also a mailman. And she's the dog we had that
Speaker 1: like killed a rodent in the backyard. So she was
Speaker 1: she was pretty uh, she was on it. You know,
Speaker 1: she was patrolling the the area. She was looking for trouble.
Speaker 1: She was letting us know we.
Speaker 2: Were really setting setting traps with baby dolls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Keep out the intruders.
Speaker 1: But our current dog also clearly has anxiety issues. But
Speaker 1: fortunately they do not manifest in loud ways. They manifest
Speaker 1: in her hiding under things. Yeah, you know, being very
Speaker 1: quiet and very timid and you know, shaking like a
Speaker 1: leaf when raining outside. Poor baby. So maybe I should
Speaker 1: look into some pharmaceuticals for her too, Yeah, a special,
Speaker 1: a special food from time to time, because I I
Speaker 1: guess the anxiety affects the the flora in the digestive
Speaker 1: system and then she has to reregulate it with this biome,
Speaker 1: expensive biome food. But yeah, poor baby. But I spent
Speaker 1: two hours in the dog park again this week. This
Speaker 1: is I think I'm going to do this every week
Speaker 1: because it's just fun. Being there for a long time
Speaker 1: and seeing a lot of dogs and also talking to
Speaker 1: a lot of dog people. People are very chatty at
Speaker 1: the dog park, and I enjoy that because we're talking
Speaker 1: about dogs. Nobody's talking about anything else, only talking about dogs.
Speaker 1: So when lady was complaining about how her neighbor didn't
Speaker 1: like her dog, she lives in an apartment, adorable little dog.
Speaker 1: I can see having trouble with some dogs, but nobody
Speaker 1: would have trouble with this dog except that it has
Speaker 1: toenails that I am sure, click click across the floor.
Speaker 1: But other than that, such a little doll. And somebody
Speaker 1: else's dog was very, very timid, and somebody else came
Speaker 1: to the gate of the dog park saying, my dog's
Speaker 1: kind of mean sometimes. Can I come in? And everybody
Speaker 1: said no, go away, and I said, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be here for two hours. If you see a clear
Speaker 1: outcome in. We're in line with you. Indeed, this dog
Speaker 1: paid no attention to my dog at all.
Speaker 2: So she did come back.
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, it was about ten minutes before we were
Speaker 1: going to have to leave. But finally the everybody left
Speaker 1: and I saw her standing nearby with her dogs. A
Speaker 1: young girl with this dog, and I said, come over,
Speaker 1: come over, Claire. But I feel bad. I mean, mean,
Speaker 1: dogs have as much right to use the dog park
Speaker 1: as anybody else, and I didn't. Probably there was one
Speaker 1: bad time with this dog, and so now she's super
Speaker 1: conciliatory to people, right.
Speaker 2: But you know, we've started taking ours to a park
Speaker 2: to just again to give her as much running around
Speaker 2: time and physical activity as we can. And of course
Speaker 2: this caused my husband to need another toy once he
Speaker 2: had experienced it at the dog park, which was a
Speaker 2: remote control car. Somebody brought one, and my goodness, like
Speaker 2: he you know, the second he came home, he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're getting I'm buying this and you know it just
Speaker 2: and so of course he did already buy it and
Speaker 2: tried to use it in the byard, but there's not
Speaker 2: enough room. Like they can catch it in the backyard,
Speaker 2: they can't catch it at the at the park if
Speaker 2: you you know, run it. As far as is.
Speaker 1: This a toy car that is meant for the taunting
Speaker 1: of animals or is it a toy car that's meant
Speaker 1: to be a toy and you just use it with your.
Speaker 2: Animals, I think it's more of the latter.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, like using a laser pointer to drive your
Speaker 1: cat crazy. Yeah, it's not intended for cats, but yeah,
Speaker 1: not necessarily.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, which.
Speaker 1: Means if your dog got a hold of this thing,
Speaker 1: they could probably make it a pile of plastic in
Speaker 1: about thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I believe they've already should chewed some bits
Speaker 2: of it, So.
Speaker 1: Some pet toy manufacturer needs to come up with one
Speaker 1: of those that could be chewed.
Speaker 2: Right, that's more durable.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't seem to be too hard, right, because it's
Speaker 1: a nice idea. Yeah, yeah, dog to chase, right, but
Speaker 1: if they catch it and it's a bunch of plastic
Speaker 1: parts because it's a cheap piece of leap, then that's
Speaker 1: not good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this not it wasn't very cheap. Oh so.
Speaker 1: Yes, so he dissolves to many pieces of sharp lastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and I had to hear all about all
Speaker 2: the reasons why it was necessary. Mm hmm. Sure, oh goodness, sure.
Speaker 1: I like that somebody makes a motorized mouse for cats. Yeah, chase,
Speaker 1: dogs would chase that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and it's interesting like the dog park, right,
Speaker 2: Like you bring something like that, then you know that
Speaker 2: you it's like when we were talking about sharing. You know,
Speaker 2: you have to know that you're gonna let all the all.
Speaker 1: The puppies play with it, right, just like at the playground. Right,
Speaker 1: don't bring it if you don't want.
Speaker 2: To share, right, because there's no way to be like, no,
Speaker 2: this is not for you.
Speaker 1: Only toys I ever see at the dog park are
Speaker 1: really grody looking tennis balls balls. Yeah, and people have
Speaker 1: these things, these slings that throw them a long way, yeah,
Speaker 1: big plastic slings. But the tennis balls always look like
Speaker 1: they are well chewed and dirt caked. So my personal
Speaker 1: dog has no interest in them. Yeah. Oh it's like
Speaker 1: I ain't putting that in my mouth. Forget it playing
Speaker 1: with toys at home. So she's not gonna she's not
Speaker 1: getting croach on anything at the dog park. So she
Speaker 1: will smell the butt of every dog there, of course,
Speaker 1: get her nose right in there, and also smell every
Speaker 1: pile of poop and spot of pea. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: she does. She'll run around with the other dogs some,
Speaker 1: but mostly she's there on a smelling expertise. So this
Speaker 1: is how easy dogs are to please. They just need
Speaker 1: some pea, right, and they're good. You're gonna write a
Speaker 1: treatise on that pee, but that poo chad for breakfast
Speaker 1: and what breed? Yep, they seem quite quite intent about it.
Speaker 1: Where do they learn from sniffing each other's butts that
Speaker 1: they know each other?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sniffed you, I know you? Nice to see again.
Speaker 1: It's so weird. It's like the first thing they do
Speaker 1: at the dog bark ah, nice to see you. Put
Speaker 1: your tail up.
Speaker 2: Please, first start of business.
Speaker 1: It's like shaking hands, you know.
Speaker 2: M Oh there we get a little jingle.
Speaker 1: Hi, hey, hi sweetie. Oh oh, well, well we have
Speaker 1: no other critters to speak up at the moment, right,
Speaker 1: I think in our podcast archive podcast we were talking
Speaker 1: about critters of all sorts.
Speaker 2: Yes, well we had Nicole because at that time and
Speaker 2: Nicole was always good for many different critters.
Speaker 1: Cats who were delivering to her dead lizards I believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and that was when she still hat a
Speaker 2: dog and her son had like her son would keep
Speaker 2: lizards too, and she had all kinds of yeah, of
Speaker 2: animals in.
Speaker 1: Her orbit for a while. Maybe I shouldn't mention this
Speaker 1: to I have something on wouldn't to knock on. But
Speaker 1: we had for a while mice. Yes, and we were,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, tolerating them for a while. Really, if
Speaker 1: they could have just avoided pooping on my counters, I
Speaker 1: probably would have let them let them alone. Occasionally we
Speaker 1: would see one and who was of course more scared
Speaker 1: of us than anything. But you know, there was poop,
Speaker 1: and yeah, just sort of the unsettling idea that behind
Speaker 1: our oven was an entire mouse ecosystem. Right. So eventually
Speaker 1: we had somebody, an exterminator, who sold their services to
Speaker 1: us because we're suckers, and they said, oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: do you have any mice? And we said, well yeah.
Speaker 1: So then they start putting these glue traps everywhere and
Speaker 1: poison everywhere, including in back of our oven, which is.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, like we eat food from me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that. I had them take that one out first,
Speaker 1: but you know, and so we still have I don't
Speaker 1: think the mice went for the glue traps. I think
Speaker 1: they just said, well, this has become a hostile environment.
Speaker 1: Where they did find a couple, I guess I don't
Speaker 1: want anything to do with it, right, I'm not going
Speaker 1: up into our attic where they put a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff ever. Again, I just find it all barbaric.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, don't poop on my counters
Speaker 1: in a simple request, right, I know you're here when
Speaker 1: you poop on my counters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. If I can live in behind, I can
Speaker 2: live in ignorance.
Speaker 1: I exactly happy it.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Don't run across my kitchen floor when the light's on,
Speaker 1: and don't poop on my counters, and we can live
Speaker 1: in harmony exactly. But you know, they just had to
Speaker 1: push it, move the toaster, and there's like a little
Speaker 1: pile of mouse crap on. Oh, it's just you know it.
Speaker 1: So but I feel very bad. I feel terrible about
Speaker 1: the measures that are taken to get rid of mice. Right,
Speaker 1: So I just will never go up up indoor attic again,
Speaker 1: you know. And then I say to my husband, if
Speaker 1: you looked up there to see if there's any other victims,
Speaker 1: isn't that your computer graveyard? Yes, that's my computer graveyard.
Speaker 1: All my old publications, magazines and I wrote in and
Speaker 1: stuff like that all up there. Wease our suitcases are
Speaker 1: up there, so it's like.
Speaker 2: I guess you're never going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well he can go up and get the suitcases,
Speaker 1: and I just won't think about where they've.
Speaker 2: Been, where they've been, what they've seen.
Speaker 1: So we seem to be relatively crittericized. There's still there's
Speaker 1: like a bunny that lives by our front steps, and
Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned before we called the landlord and
Speaker 1: still there. It's either the same bun or generations of
Speaker 1: bunnies that have taken that job. Right, But occasionally, you know,
Speaker 1: you go out and look for the mail and you
Speaker 1: look down and there's a bunny looking up at you.
Speaker 1: It's like, hello, man, nice day, exactly, we'll have the
Speaker 1: red for you soon. And they don't. We've noticed that,
Speaker 1: like like bunnies don't aren't afraid of humans anymore. No,
Speaker 1: they used to be afraid. I think it's COVID that
Speaker 1: made the difference, because all the humans went inside, the
Speaker 1: bunnies just kind of had the run of the place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so it's like, well, you're not so tough if
Speaker 1: you're like hiding from viruses.
Speaker 2: Some invisible virus. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely noticed that there
Speaker 2: was an uptick in the presence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, after there's more of them and they're just they
Speaker 1: don't run. They used to skitter, and maybe if you
Speaker 1: have a dog.
Speaker 2: They skitter.
Speaker 1: We had a dog once said very much, this isn't
Speaker 1: the dog that killed the groundhog. This was another dog.
Speaker 1: It was a German shepherd. She very much wanted to
Speaker 1: eat herself a bunny. She just was super on it.
Speaker 1: And anytimes she saw a bunny, that bunny was in
Speaker 1: mortal danger. Right, and the bunny seemed to realize that
Speaker 1: and get the bleep out of there. Yeah, but and
Speaker 1: and the dog would chase it with me holding the leashes,
Speaker 1: right exactly, We'll let go if you don't want to
Speaker 1: run with me, I had, I had forced right, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have that bunny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ours, both of ours would would go after bunnies
Speaker 2: for sure if given me which and you know they
Speaker 2: do show up in our yard quite a bit. And yeah,
Speaker 2: but the bunnies can get through the fence. The dogs cannot. Right,
Speaker 2: So we did have to reinforce the fence for this
Speaker 2: new dog because and I told my husband for like weeks,
Speaker 2: I'm like, she's gonna go on under like there's a
Speaker 2: spot in between our yard and our there's a spot
Speaker 2: under the fence, and she can fit. I know she's
Speaker 2: gonna go under there. And sure enough she did, and
Speaker 2: so now we had to put we put a bunch
Speaker 2: of rocks and then he put like some basically like
Speaker 2: chicken wire type stuff.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so yeah, I told you we had the
Speaker 1: same situation with a dog who was like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: all I had to do was dig and push myself
Speaker 1: through some loose wires and do this. I thought you
Speaker 1: wanted me to go another Yes, dogs, we love them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't always like what they do, but we love them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And we love seeing other people's dogs and then leaving
Speaker 1: them with the dog park. Dog the dog. The dog
Speaker 1: park is a great source of the dog behavior, which
Speaker 1: I have to believe. They laugh and laugh and laugh
Speaker 1: at us about where a dog will come up to
Speaker 1: you looking like it wants to say hi and be petted,
Speaker 1: and then at the last minute turn around if we
Speaker 1: are outreached hand, right, I get that a lot, and
Speaker 1: my dog does that to people all the time.
Speaker 2: At the bug part, it's just.
Speaker 1: Like and you feel like you need to apologize. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: She's really she's really very timid, you know, she just
Speaker 1: maybe she's afraid. I don't he's just being an asshole,
Speaker 1: all right, Oh, you don't have a taiale to put up,
Speaker 1: and you won't let me smell your body.
Speaker 2: You won't let me.
Speaker 1: Well, you're not a dog, You're not a dog. I
Speaker 1: walk away right, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Well we'll walk away for now.
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