WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:06.960 Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow. 2 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:07.919 And I'm Catherine Jileco. 3 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:11.759 Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick 4 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:14.919 from our archives, and a parenting or pop culture tidbit 5 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:19.920 or two. Let's start with Catherine's library find of the week. 6 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:25.920 So it may be spring right now, I mean it 7 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:30.000 happens late in my corner of the world, but I 8 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:34.159 would say we're pretty much there. But I'm going to 9 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:39.520 mention a sort of wind Try themed book today. It 10 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:43.439 is called Bear in a Bathrobe, And I freely urge 11 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:47.520 you to go look at the cover and see this 12 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:53.679 bear and this bathrobe and the tiny pink ice skates 13 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:56.399 that the bear is wearing on the cover, which is 14 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:02.880 probably what caught my eye first. This this bear. You know, 15 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:06.159 it's winter there they're gonna have this bear is ready 16 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:10.400 to hibernate. He's like, he's got his his robe. It 17 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:14.799 has pockets for his snacks, it has like a hood 18 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:18.599 to keep his his head warm. And he's like, sweet, 19 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:24.280 I'm just gonna be inside and I'm gonna hibernate and cozy. 20 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:28.439 I'm gonna be cozy. And his friends are like, oh, 21 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:31.799 come on, we're gonna play outside. We're gonna go ice skating, 22 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:38.319 And he is just very first of all, enjoying his 23 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:43.480 cozy indoor time and also you know, worried about what 24 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:47.159 could happen if he went skating. He could he could 25 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:51.879 hurt himself. So but then the book, of course is 26 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:56.519 about how to uh step outside of that comfort zone 27 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.719 and try new things and even if you you know, 28 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:04.560 take risks and and but it's also like the ways 29 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:10.960 to sort of mitigate the risk. So yes, yeah, so 30 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:13.080 I think it doesn't look very sweet. 31 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:18.719 Want to be about how everybody is different and some 32 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.560 people get to do things that they want to do, 33 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:24.680 and don't let peer pressure force you out of your 34 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:29.080 cozy den onto the ice. Tell people that you're a 35 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:31.639 bear and this is what bears do, and hope they 36 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:33.800 have a good time, and then snuggle back down and 37 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:35.840 put on Netflix and enjoy the winter. 38 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:39.039 No, it's not that, I guess it's not that, because 39 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:42.319 that's not what children's books do. 40 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.599 No, it's not we need I need a line of 41 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:50.039 children's books for WIMPs, you know, to let your kid 42 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:55.080 know it's okay, it's okay. If you don't want to 43 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:58.360 be at bat, you can just stay out in the outfield, honey, 44 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:03.759 it's fine. Or you know, if you want to just 45 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.879 hit and sit in the hoccy penalty box and not 46 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:10.719 ever do anything, you're good. Yes, Instead, we have to 47 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:12.639 inspire our kids to. 48 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:13.400 Break the roles. 49 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:18.400 Yeah, go boldly forward, your friends make you do things. 50 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:24.319 It's fine. What could go wrong? Yes, it's a cute girl. 51 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:28.639 Drive by and say hey byre one, come in your phone. 52 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:33.479 Understand this all. Please listen to our episode to you earlier. 53 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:42.479 I will also give a slight side recommendation or mention, 54 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:49.120 let's say, to Linda Holmes, who is someone we have 55 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:53.000 been listening to for a long time on NPR and 56 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:58.080 has now written her third novel. Oh, and it's. 57 00:03:57.879 --> 00:03:59.080 Going on Audible right now. 58 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:04.039 It's back after this and the main character is a 59 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:11.400 podcast producer. Yay, Yeah, I mean, and it's an enjoyable read. 60 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:14.639 You know. It's a romance like her other ones have been, 61 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:18.360 like kind of a rom com. And I like the 62 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:20.680 characters a lot, you know. I like the way that 63 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:24.560 she the dialogue I think is really she has a 64 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:29.360 good ear for it, you know, the sort of like 65 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:37.600 obstacle that is placed before the couple. I didn't find 66 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:47.160 to be particularly convincing, and that was kind of the 67 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.800 problem I had with the other with their previous one, 68 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:55.040 which is called Flying, Flying Solo. So I think that's 69 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:59.199 like a weak area, but it's still it's still an 70 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:05.639 enjoyable read, and especially if you care about podcasts. 71 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:10.720 I see that on audible in the audiobook she narrates 72 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:11.639 it herself this time. 73 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:12.360 Well, there you go. 74 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:14.920 I think the last couple of times she had Julia Whalen, 75 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:22.399 who now has her own audiobook enterprises. Yes, so maybe 76 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.920 that's why. I don't know, but yes, I shall have 77 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:30.240 to put that on my wish list. I just finished 78 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.759 reading last night. I finished listening to The Triumph of 79 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:40.439 Seeds Seed. You talked about those lasts, then, by all means, 80 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:46.319 go listen to that book. It is interesting but also 81 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:48.319 something you can just sort of have on and if 82 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.360 you don't get every single word of it, it's not 83 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:53.600 going to make you feel bad, right, So I like 84 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:57.879 audio books like that. Sometimes I'm doing other things, you know. 85 00:05:58.319 --> 00:05:58.560 Yep. 86 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:03.360 Anyway, so a good time for me to look for 87 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:10.439 another book, right and with that book, I will undoubt 88 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:14.759 it later be drinking coffee, and I have a coffee related. 89 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:19.079 I don't know if it's quite a recommendation, but a discussion. Okay, 90 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:23.399 I've mentioned numerous times I think that I am enjoying 91 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:27.120 my pour over coffee set up here. I feel very 92 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:32.079 very involved with my drink when I take my little 93 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.360 metal filter and I put it on top of my cup, 94 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:36.399 and I put the coffee grounds in it, and I 95 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:38.480 pour the hot water over it, and I wait for 96 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:41.079 it to trickle through, and the coffee has always tasted 97 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:46.079 pretty good afterwards. But default in that system is that 98 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:48.560 it's a pain in the bleep to clean out the 99 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.439 metal filters. I could put a paper filter in, but 100 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:53.360 then you kind of taste the paper filter. And also 101 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.079 it's you know, making trash, which I don't need to 102 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:58.399 make because I could just use the metal filters and 103 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:01.839 wash them out. So I've been pretty happy with that 104 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:06.800 except when I'm actually cleaning out the filters. But I 105 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.759 was looking on a coffee website I go to from 106 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.279 time to time, and I saw this thing called AeroPress. 107 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:14.800 I don't know if you've heard of an AeroPress, but 108 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:19.120 it's like a hard plastic tube that you set on 109 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:22.480 top of the cup and you put a lid on 110 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:24.360 the bottom of it with a little filter in it, 111 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:27.480 a little round filter, and then you put the coffee 112 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.959 on top. You pour the water into this tube, and 113 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:35.000 then you take another thing and plunge the cop punge 114 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:37.240 it down into the tube so that the coffee gets 115 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:40.720 forced through the filter and into the cup. And then 116 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:44.839 when you're done, amazingly, you just take the whole thing 117 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:46.600 to the trash and you just push it a little 118 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.519 harder and pop the little puck with the coffee, and 119 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:54.480 the filter just pops out all by itself. Very minimal cleanup. 120 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:58.279 That sounded great to me. It's still a pour over thing, 121 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:04.040 but you know, less cleanup. He doesn't want less cleanup. 122 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:06.600 So I got myself, ordered myself one of these things. 123 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:11.279 It finally came, made myself some coffee. Boy was it easy? 124 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:11.839 Boy? 125 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.199 Was the cleanup easy? Just as advertised? Pop out it goes, 126 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:20.800 and everything's relatively clean. Sadly, however, the coffee tastes. 127 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:22.199 Offul oh no. 128 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:27.879 So I did some research and it does say works 129 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:30.680 best on this grind of coffee, and I had a 130 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.360 much finer grind of coffee, which means nothing to me. 131 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:36.360 I don't grind my own beans. I just get stuff. 132 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:40.120 I get this flavor of the month coffee from Blackout Coffee, 133 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:43.120 and I like it very much, but it's very finely ground, 134 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:49.200 and Grock explained to me kindly that the more ground 135 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:52.879 it is, the more oils and flavors and stuff comes 136 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.279 out of it when it is hit by hot water. 137 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:59.399 And so this is not the coffee I have, is 138 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:02.120 not good for this particular device. But Corot gave me 139 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:05.320 some suggestions, and you know, you could spend less time 140 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:08.879 brewing it. You could put some more boiling water in 141 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:12.759 it after it's in the cup. You could plunge it 142 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:15.320 slower or faster. I don't remember. There was things you 143 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:17.919 could do, and I did them and it was better, 144 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:21.399 but it was still bitter, just a really bitter taste. 145 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.039 And if you look up AeroPress, it will say, well, 146 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:25.919 if you use fine coffee, it's going to be bitter. 147 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.799 So it's my own fault. And I do have some 148 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.399 less fine coffee that I use sometimes, and I can 149 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.679 make a decent cup with the AeroPress with that, so 150 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.600 I'm still sort of using it on certain coffees, but 151 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:39.480 I can't use it on the coffee I drink every day, 152 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:43.240 which is sad. Yeah, but if you are a person 153 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.559 who grinds their own beans, which not enough time in 154 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:52.120 the day you want to fiddle with getting just the 155 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:55.519 right grind for the AeroPress, you could probably get yourself 156 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:57.720 a pretty tasty cup of coffee from it, and the 157 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.240 popping the filter and the used coffee into the trash 158 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.039 can is very satisfying. 159 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:06.080 Yeah, it seems like it would be, yes. 160 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:09.039 But you had Again, it's something that works best if 161 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:13.000 you use a large scoop of coffee, which I can't 162 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.559 do with the finally ground coffee because it's not only 163 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:20.759 bitter but extremely strong, so I use less and then 164 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:22.919 it doesn't pop off so much as it kind of 165 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.279 dribbles off. It's still easier to clean, but not as satisfying. Right, 166 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:30.120 So a mixed review. If you use it as they 167 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:33.440 tell you to use it, it's great. Right, you try 168 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:36.840 to use it differently, you're going to have a subpar experience. 169 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.720 And boy, there may have been a time in my 170 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.080 life when I could have drank a cup of strong, 171 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.360 bitter coffee, but that ain't now. I'm a coffee wimp. 172 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:51.159 Lots of milk, lots of extra water. Sure, pour it in, right, 173 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:57.799 let's weaken it down to a mild cocoa Flavorshell. Yeah, 174 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.120 So anyway, that is my is my aero press review 175 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:07.879 us as advertised. Yeah, and don't assume that it'll be fine, right, Okay, 176 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:11.639 you know you could just put some coffee in it, 177 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:13.360 pour some water in it, just to do that. 178 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:20.039 Exactly. That is. That does sound very satisfying. 179 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:20.840 That's awesome. 180 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:23.600 Nice. 181 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.240 So what do we have from the archives this week? 182 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:32.360 We have what we called at the time, the Critter Report. 183 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.279 We have been kind of, you know, looking for something 184 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:43.679 like this because we both have critters in our homes 185 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:46.279 that we like to talk about. 186 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:50.840 Yes, and we have often even without any excuse. 187 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:52.159 That's right. 188 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:55.279 So now that you have heard our critters on this 189 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.799 very podcast, although they are not you've drugged them today 190 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:00.000 so that they don't interfere. 191 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:03.639 Yes, I gave I gave the one a little bit 192 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:12.559 of a downer, just because the barking is part of 193 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:21.000 just an extreme anxiety, like it's this dog is I 194 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:24.159 don't know, and my husband swears up and down that 195 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:27.000 she doesn't do this when I Am not home. 196 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.919 So it's it's like. 197 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:37.200 She has separation anxiety, but it's together anxiety with me 198 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:39.440 only so. 199 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:42.240 Well, that's a problem when by eight. 200 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:45.240 Thirty in the morning, she had already been taken outside 201 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:51.440 and played with and fed and watered and everything, you know, 202 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:54.799 multiple times, lots of you know, as much playtime as 203 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:59.000 I could give her, and she was still like just 204 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:04.320 look out the window, racing, racing from window to window, 205 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.600 freaking out. And I knew I had like a full 206 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.879 day ahead of me. I was just like, today is 207 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:16.600 going to be a downer kind of a day. It 208 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:21.360 does seem to be effected. I mean, we have already 209 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:28.200 she gets like calming treats, you know, we have. We've 210 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:32.080 tried a lot of things. Let's just say, yeah, you know, 211 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.480 we have the calming things. We try to give her 212 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:41.080 just physical activity, mental stimulation by giving her like puzzle toys, 213 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:49.320 and but some days that's that's not enough. It's the 214 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:51.679 thing that has finally gotten me to move to the 215 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:57.639 upstairs office space to work, which you know, I've been 216 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:02.320 resisting for years, Like there's no there's I don't know why, 217 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:04.720 but you know, I always just wanted to work downstairs 218 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:08.200 at the dining room table. It's like I'm by the kitchen, 219 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:12.039 I can see out the windows. It's just like a 220 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:17.600 nice I don't know, I just like it. And when 221 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.519 we were in a position to leave the door the 222 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.080 back door open and let the dogs go in and 223 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:25.480 out with the doggy door, like then I would be there, 224 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:33.279 and so all that has changed. Yeah, so we do 225 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:36.360 find that if I work upstairs that helps a little 226 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:41.200 bit with the oh geez, freaking out at the windows situation. 227 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:45.120 Why does she just do it when you're there? 228 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:49.000 I don't know. I'm going to start a training class 229 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:55.360 with her in a week and luck we got out. 230 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:58.799 Because if she's clearly so smart, like she's such a 231 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:02.919 there has to be a way to teach her not 232 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:10.240 to panic, you know. So that's what I want to learn. 233 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:14.440 Yeah, yeah, that's rough. 234 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:18.679 So that's maybe I know, I just you also, Yeah, 235 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:21.919 I mean it's like I feel bad, you know. I 236 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:26.799 obviously the barking is annoying, and but it's more like 237 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:30.120 she's so stressed out and I don't I don't want 238 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:33.840 her to be that way, you know. So so yeah, 239 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:38.679 you hope to be able to settle her down a 240 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:39.159 little bit. 241 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:44.159 Yeah, we had a very barky pooch, but it wasn't anxiety. 242 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:47.960 It was just you know, I think she heard things 243 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:53.759 very sharply and so wanted to just inform us. Yeah, 244 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:58.399 of a truck three blocks away, right, and you know, 245 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:02.519 also a mailman. And she's the dog we had that 246 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:05.440 like killed a rodent in the backyard. So she was 247 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:11.559 she was pretty uh, she was on it. You know, 248 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:16.240 she was patrolling the the area. She was looking for trouble. 249 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:18.799 She was letting us know we. 250 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:22.399 Were really setting setting traps with baby dolls. 251 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:24.360 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 252 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:25.559 Keep out the intruders. 253 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:33.080 But our current dog also clearly has anxiety issues. But 254 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:38.200 fortunately they do not manifest in loud ways. They manifest 255 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:41.480 in her hiding under things. Yeah, you know, being very 256 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:47.440 quiet and very timid and you know, shaking like a 257 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:51.559 leaf when raining outside. Poor baby. So maybe I should 258 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:56.519 look into some pharmaceuticals for her too, Yeah, a special, 259 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:00.080 a special food from time to time, because I I 260 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:05.359 guess the anxiety affects the the flora in the digestive 261 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:09.680 system and then she has to reregulate it with this biome, 262 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:17.680 expensive biome food. But yeah, poor baby. But I spent 263 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:22.160 two hours in the dog park again this week. This 264 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:23.839 is I think I'm going to do this every week 265 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:26.240 because it's just fun. Being there for a long time 266 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:29.319 and seeing a lot of dogs and also talking to 267 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:31.839 a lot of dog people. People are very chatty at 268 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:34.519 the dog park, and I enjoy that because we're talking 269 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:38.279 about dogs. Nobody's talking about anything else, only talking about dogs. 270 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:42.880 So when lady was complaining about how her neighbor didn't 271 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:48.160 like her dog, she lives in an apartment, adorable little dog. 272 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:51.240 I can see having trouble with some dogs, but nobody 273 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:53.480 would have trouble with this dog except that it has 274 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:57.640 toenails that I am sure, click click across the floor. 275 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:03.680 But other than that, such a little doll. And somebody 276 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:07.279 else's dog was very, very timid, and somebody else came 277 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:09.680 to the gate of the dog park saying, my dog's 278 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:12.599 kind of mean sometimes. Can I come in? And everybody 279 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.039 said no, go away, and I said, I'm going to 280 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:16.799 be here for two hours. If you see a clear 281 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:19.920 outcome in. We're in line with you. Indeed, this dog 282 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:21.720 paid no attention to my dog at all. 283 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:23.319 So she did come back. 284 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:27.119 Yes, Well, it was about ten minutes before we were 285 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.079 going to have to leave. But finally the everybody left 286 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.400 and I saw her standing nearby with her dogs. A 287 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:36.240 young girl with this dog, and I said, come over, 288 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:41.240 come over, Claire. But I feel bad. I mean, mean, 289 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:43.000 dogs have as much right to use the dog park 290 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:45.799 as anybody else, and I didn't. Probably there was one 291 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:50.079 bad time with this dog, and so now she's super 292 00:18:50.279 --> 00:18:51.920 conciliatory to people, right. 293 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:58.160 But you know, we've started taking ours to a park 294 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:03.319 to just again to give her as much running around 295 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:08.279 time and physical activity as we can. And of course 296 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:14.480 this caused my husband to need another toy once he 297 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:17.640 had experienced it at the dog park, which was a 298 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:25.279 remote control car. Somebody brought one, and my goodness, like 299 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:29.480 he you know, the second he came home, he's like, oh, 300 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:34.960 we're getting I'm buying this and you know it just 301 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:38.440 and so of course he did already buy it and 302 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:42.279 tried to use it in the byard, but there's not 303 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:45.000 enough room. Like they can catch it in the backyard, 304 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:49.559 they can't catch it at the at the park if 305 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:53.160 you you know, run it. As far as is. 306 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:55.400 This a toy car that is meant for the taunting 307 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:58.079 of animals or is it a toy car that's meant 308 00:19:58.079 --> 00:20:00.920 to be a toy and you just use it with your. 309 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.079 Animals, I think it's more of the latter. 310 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.640 Okay, Yeah, like using a laser pointer to drive your 311 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:11.920 cat crazy. Yeah, it's not intended for cats, but yeah, 312 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:12.799 not necessarily. 313 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:17.039 Yeah, yes, which. 314 00:20:16.759 --> 00:20:19.279 Means if your dog got a hold of this thing, 315 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:21.559 they could probably make it a pile of plastic in 316 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:23.559 about thirty seconds. 317 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:28.720 Yeah. Well, I believe they've already should chewed some bits 318 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:31.279 of it, So. 319 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:34.880 Some pet toy manufacturer needs to come up with one 320 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:35.920 of those that could be chewed. 321 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:37.240 Right, that's more durable. 322 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:41.759 It wouldn't seem to be too hard, right, because it's 323 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:46.400 a nice idea. Yeah, yeah, dog to chase, right, but 324 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:49.079 if they catch it and it's a bunch of plastic 325 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:53.119 parts because it's a cheap piece of leap, then that's 326 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:53.559 not good. 327 00:20:53.880 --> 00:21:00.079 Yeah, and this not it wasn't very cheap. Oh so. 328 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.880 Yes, so he dissolves to many pieces of sharp lastic. 329 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:07.559 Yeah. Yeah, and I had to hear all about all 330 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:14.000 the reasons why it was necessary. Mm hmm. Sure, oh goodness, sure. 331 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:20.039 I like that somebody makes a motorized mouse for cats. Yeah, chase, 332 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:22.039 dogs would chase that. 333 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:29.039 Yeah. Well, and it's interesting like the dog park, right, 334 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:33.440 Like you bring something like that, then you know that 335 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:37.079 you it's like when we were talking about sharing. You know, 336 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:41.359 you have to know that you're gonna let all the all. 337 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:44.839 The puppies play with it, right, just like at the playground. Right, 338 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:47.240 don't bring it if you don't want. 339 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:51.839 To share, right, because there's no way to be like, no, 340 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:52.880 this is not for you. 341 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:56.519 Only toys I ever see at the dog park are 342 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:00.200 really grody looking tennis balls balls. Yeah, and people have 343 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.799 these things, these slings that throw them a long way, yeah, 344 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:07.200 big plastic slings. But the tennis balls always look like 345 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:12.599 they are well chewed and dirt caked. So my personal 346 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.079 dog has no interest in them. Yeah. Oh it's like 347 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.359 I ain't putting that in my mouth. Forget it playing 348 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.359 with toys at home. So she's not gonna she's not 349 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:24.720 getting croach on anything at the dog park. So she 350 00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:27.759 will smell the butt of every dog there, of course, 351 00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:31.400 get her nose right in there, and also smell every 352 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:34.359 pile of poop and spot of pea. Yeah, that's what 353 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:36.640 she does. She'll run around with the other dogs some, 354 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:39.720 but mostly she's there on a smelling expertise. So this 355 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:43.720 is how easy dogs are to please. They just need 356 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:47.279 some pea, right, and they're good. You're gonna write a 357 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:52.680 treatise on that pee, but that poo chad for breakfast 358 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:59.519 and what breed? Yep, they seem quite quite intent about it. 359 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:02.640 Where do they learn from sniffing each other's butts that 360 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:03.759 they know each other? 361 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:04.119 Oh? 362 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:08.519 Yeah, sniffed you, I know you? Nice to see again. 363 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:14.279 It's so weird. It's like the first thing they do 364 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:16.720 at the dog bark ah, nice to see you. Put 365 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:17.279 your tail up. 366 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:21.440 Please, first start of business. 367 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:24.680 It's like shaking hands, you know. 368 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:28.359 M Oh there we get a little jingle. 369 00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:37.759 Hi, hey, hi sweetie. Oh oh, well, well we have 370 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.079 no other critters to speak up at the moment, right, 371 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:45.680 I think in our podcast archive podcast we were talking 372 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.039 about critters of all sorts. 373 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:51.000 Yes, well we had Nicole because at that time and 374 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:55.640 Nicole was always good for many different critters. 375 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.519 Cats who were delivering to her dead lizards I believe. 376 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:00.559 Yeah. Well, and that was when she still hat a 377 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:04.319 dog and her son had like her son would keep 378 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:09.599 lizards too, and she had all kinds of yeah, of 379 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:11.599 animals in. 380 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.480 Her orbit for a while. Maybe I shouldn't mention this 381 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:17.480 to I have something on wouldn't to knock on. But 382 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:23.000 we had for a while mice. Yes, and we were, 383 00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:28.240 you know, uh, tolerating them for a while. Really, if 384 00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:30.960 they could have just avoided pooping on my counters, I 385 00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:34.799 probably would have let them let them alone. Occasionally we 386 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.039 would see one and who was of course more scared 387 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:42.599 of us than anything. But you know, there was poop, 388 00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:47.039 and yeah, just sort of the unsettling idea that behind 389 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:51.400 our oven was an entire mouse ecosystem. Right. So eventually 390 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:54.359 we had somebody, an exterminator, who sold their services to 391 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:57.400 us because we're suckers, and they said, oh, by the way, 392 00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:59.359 do you have any mice? And we said, well yeah. 393 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:01.720 So then they start putting these glue traps everywhere and 394 00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:04.799 poison everywhere, including in back of our oven, which is. 395 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.559 Like, oh, yeah, like we eat food from me? 396 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:10.160 Yeah, is that. I had them take that one out first, 397 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:13.720 but you know, and so we still have I don't 398 00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:15.359 think the mice went for the glue traps. I think 399 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:17.400 they just said, well, this has become a hostile environment. 400 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:20.680 Where they did find a couple, I guess I don't 401 00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:23.559