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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Jeff Grubbin. With me is Mike Manatti.
Speaker 1: In today's episode, the Fox is back, Jack, another analyst,
weighs in on the GTA six price, and a bunch
of other stuff is happening over at Take two. Kind
of feels like they're taking out the trash before GTA
six comes out and then the mount rushmore of dog
fighting games. We are going to talk about that and
more stuff whatever you guys want to talk about when
we get like super chats and stuff before Mike, how
are you doing pretty good?
Speaker 2: It's been a busy week.
Speaker 3: It feels like, uh, next week will be even busier. Apparently,
I'm gonna play several hours of Starfux sixty four every
day celebrate Giant Bumps Independent, So that'll be a fun time.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could do that on your own time
if you want. But he's gonna be playing Donkey Kong
sixty four. Everybody but you get you said Star Fox
sixty four, which I get. That'd be fun too. Yeah,
that'd be really fun. Of course I don't like Yeah,
I actually don't like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 3: I said Star Fox is four by accident and had
no idea.
Speaker 1: Oh it happened.
Speaker 3: I mean, we come on, we talk so much, it
just happens. At this point, I know what other things
I say wrong?
Speaker 1: I mean, how many of our brain cycles are like,
can we dedicate to our speaking like we're talking constantly?
At some point we put some of that on the
back burner and then stuff just comes out.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker 1: Tell your friends everybody, Mike's gonna be playing all of
Donkey Kong sixty four is as you guys come through
with the support. I cannot wait. It's gonna be a
good time. I think it's gonna be the event of
the season. Everybody.
Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna be talking about it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's gonna be busy week for you next
week for sure, and I'm gonna I'm gonna hang out
with you a bunch of those hours. I'm gonna need
to see Beaver Bother for myself. If you looked into
Beaver Bother at all.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'll let it. I'll just let it happen.
Speaker 1: Just let it happen. That's that's the best case scenario.
It's gonna be a lot. But yeah, I don't know.
I did start up that, uh that mixtape. It's pretty good.
We can talk about that later in the show. But
that kind of took over the world today with really
really really good reviews.
Speaker 2: Did that surprise you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh god?
Speaker 3: I mean the game comes out with a ninety four
average open critic I tak a that was at twin reviews.
Speaker 1: It's like ninety three now rightey only, but every point
hurts my Fantasy critic because I did get it in
Fantasy put me back in the game a little bit
and did Yeah really, we'll put you back in the game. Congratulations. Yeah,
Well we'll see how long that last, honestly, because it's
I've got a lot of boneheaded moves to make up for.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's uh, I've started that. Like I said,
we'll talk about that in what we've been playing. Talk
about some other games. Uh, we're both playing Forts the
Horizon six. Can't talk about that yet, but we will
when we can. Lots of cool stuff happening. Let's go
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really really appreciate it. Yet, Christian, you have to talk
about the virus too. Oh man, He's just gonna give
it to all of us. Oh no, we'll get into
all of it right after this. All right, we are
going to talk about the news now, and the news
is mostly Starfox.
Speaker 2: That's real.
Speaker 1: It got a shocking Starfox direct ten minutes after getting announced,
and uh, that came out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Really did think.
Speaker 1: I think we were all kind of expecting if they
do something outside of a direct, they'll just do it
as a straight up Nintendo Today announcement with all the details.
They kind of had their cake and eate it too
us here little bit. We could talk about how they
like rolled that all out. I you know, it's interesting,
but it's not as interesting maybe as the game, which
is another remake of Star Fox sixty four. This is
a series that has done that multiple times. Star Fox
sixty four in many ways sort of a spiritual remake
of the original Star Fox not exactly, but look, they've
done this a bunch before they're doing it again. They
have upgraded the visuals quite a bit. They have changed
up the character models. We could talk about all that
as well, but you're gonna be playing through that game
the way you did on the sixty four. There is
the multiplayer mode, which was on the sixty four, they
seem to be like like maybe suggesting there's a little
bit more going on there, but you know that the
multiplayer mode was always there, and then there's the challenges
in difficulty options and mouse controls, and a two player
mode where one person can fly the star Fox ship, yeah,
the R wing, and then the other person can use
the mouse controls to be the gunner. And then of
course v tuber avatar for sonas that you can use
a cross Nintendo chat as much as you want. That's
the gist of it, Mike. People have varying opinions on
this game. How are you feeling about it? I'm pretty excited.
Speaker 3: It is certainly the safest possible way they could have
brought back Starfucks.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Maybe the only unsafe thing is the new character designs,
which of course are divisive.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 3: It's almost I almost laughed when I saw that, Oh
it's a Starfucks sixty remake. That's that's almost kind of funny.
Now I like Star Fucks sixty four a ton, So
I'm still pretty excited.
Speaker 1: I like the way the new characters look.
Speaker 3: You know, there's in terms of what is new, having
more cut scenes things like that, Hey, that's all well
and good. You can up the presentation a bit. Don't
make me plenty happy. It's all all weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, you.
Speaker 3: Could just make a game that plays like Star Fox
sixty four. I get that they feel burned from every
time they try to deviate too much.
Speaker 1: It's kind of rejected. You know.
Speaker 3: Part of that is, say, maybe those swings weren't always
home runs or even hits, you know, Star Fucks Adventure,
star star Fucks Assault, Starbucks Command, even it certainly Starfucks Zero.
When they get maybe experimental, they try to throw in
other genres there. It doesn't always work super so, yeah,
just back to basics. En Route Shooter straight up a
remake of Star Fucks Dixie four. But again, it's like
you could you could have like made the quote unquote
Star Fox sixty four two, or you could have even
like remade the first game, which kind of means you
have more leeway for things you can do, but you know,
things different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you know, I see Bill, I see Pig.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hell, yeah, I know those guys. Okay, right,
let's go. Yeah, flying through the waterfall, Yeah, all that stuff.
It's like, oh, yeah, I do want to do that again.
I really do.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: I guess that puts us on a certain side of
this this conational fence here where it's like we are
receptive to this. There are definitely people who do not
want to play this game again. That that is the
I think that is the primary complaint. It's like they
can't believe it that they're remaking it again. I to me, Mike,
it seems clear that they are going to do more
Star Fox after this. I know it's not clear to
everybody else. So I'm kind of like, this is not
the end. It's not like this is the last Star
Fox game we're ever getting. This is just another Star
Fox game. Then we'll get another one after this. So
these feelings are temporary, whatever you're feeling. And it's like, Okay,
this is a good way to reintroduce the series.
Speaker 2: You said it.
Speaker 1: It's the safest way they could do this, and I
think they want to be pretty safe because they are
going to try something else with the next game. You know,
however likely that is or however far off that is.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 1: People want it now, But yeah, I think as a
reintroduction to Starfox, this serves that purpose, and then the
characters look a little a little weird, but I I'm
into it, Like, I think it's weird for like weird
Nintendo reasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they have these cavalistic models. It's also
weird because we just had the movie give us the
most cartoony version of box McLoud and now it's hyper
kind of realistic version of him.
Speaker 1: I'm into it.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of like S and E s a
box art, but it's not exactly that, right, that was
almost more it's under You.
Speaker 1: Can definitely tell that that was it was informing it
for sure, because like a slippy looks almost like one
for one to be fair, so they don't all look
one for one. And then at least in terms of
like where all the body parts are, I guess in
terms of trying to present as a puppet. It's not
exactly what they're going for, but you could tell that
they were pulling from that. I you know, I put
out a short todaffort for Giant Bomb where it's like,
one of the reasons I think they look a little
weird is they worked backward from creating these characters for
that that face tracking technology for the v tuber stuff,
v tuber for the v tuber stuff, And you know,
I think they just want to like make one of
those things the gimmicks. But if you're doing that, you
know those original things were supposed to be puppets, and
now you're digitally puppeteering these things. Obviously, they were kind
of drawing back and forth between all these reference points.
I you know, I would have preferred something a little
bit more stylistic, but I think that this is weird
in an interesting way. And another thing I might have
said during that video, I know I've said it when
I recorded it. I'm not sure if it made the
cut or not. I can't remember. I'm at a point
now where when a new game gets announced, I'm not
like my immediate opinion about it, my meeting immediate feelings.
I know that they are super temporary. They will pass,
and there's going to be a day where I'm like, oh, yeah,
remember that game. I want to go back to that game.
And the way I feel in that moment is always
so much different than the way I feel when a
game gets announced, and I'm at a point in my
life where I'm ready to get to that feeling about
a game much more than I want to live in
this moment where it's like I haven't played it yet,
it just got announced, it has all these expectations on it.
We're going to be talking about the price, which is
fifty dollars versus sixty dollars physical you know it's coming up.
I don't think I said June June twenty fifth. But
there's all these things just like we haven't even played
it yet. I know it's gonna play like Star Fox
sixty four, but it's still it's just a situation where
the anticipation feelings are very different than that is a
memory feeling. And I kind of like, let I like
letting these games live in that moment of I can
go back to it and do you remember that that
time they made star Fox and his team look kind
of funky? I'm excited about that, but I get that
that's not for everybody. Uh So this is gonna suggest that, hey,
that Zelda game's probably real.
Speaker 3: Huh sure seems like it. Huh yeah that and that's
kind of the idea. The other interesting wrinkle here is
like whoa, yeah, a great time remake that is ninety
nine percent happening right at this point, this is part
of that rumor that's interesting, and that's that's one where
it's like, oh, what is that going to look? Like?
It almost makes sense because when this rumor is happening,
we didn't know what the Star Fucks game was. Now
that we know it's a sixty four remix, like, oh oh,
they're just kind of remaking two of the most popular
Nintendo sixty four games, all right, which they did before
on the Nintendo three DS. Right, going back to these
two makes a decent amount of sense. And I wonder
if the Uck Grade Time thing will be similar in
that it's gameplay wise, level design wise relatively one to one,
with graphical and production value kind of bonus feature upgrades
to sort of pat out the package.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I would lean in this moment. I
think beforehand them like they could do they go go
crazy with it, But it's uh, when you start thinking
about okerina of time. Maybe you could expand high rule
field or whatever. And I don't mean like make it
more sprawling or waste the player's time more, but just
do more with it whatever.
Speaker 3: But you don't add the green rocks you have to
run over with Eponia perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, that would just be the best. But like,
you don't mess with those dungeons too much. That gets
little Harry. And if you're gonna be in that situation
where like, well let's do the dungeons one to one
at a certain point, it's like, let's just keep the
game the way it is, give it a few quality
of life improvements and and then yeah, visual upgrade, you know,
out the ass, and that's sort of what we're gonna
do with that. So that's kind of what I think.
That's what I expect with Zelda as well.
Speaker 3: It's always like, if you're gonna do something more like,
I don't know, give me a give me like the
Bowser's Fury esque.
Speaker 1: Chicam Pain or something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I necessarily need you to edit
Okarina of Time a whole lot, you know, like just
add in the freaking another quest or whatever it was
called for that one sort of when the color a
color dungeon equivalent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can get rather we're playing on color televisions.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you.
Speaker 3: Want give me an extra dungeon, sure you can do
something like that, But yeah, I don't know how much
I want things edited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want I want the kids to figure out
the water dungeon. It's time. Look, it's not not as
bad as everyone mix it out to be, and.
Speaker 3: They'll make it do things to make that easier like
the Three Diversion did. So yeah, I bet a lot
of people when they get to that will kind of
be like, what was everyone so mad about?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely, yep, yeah, okay, so Star Fox once
again June twenty fifth, fifty dollars digital, sixty dollars physical.
Speaker 2: That you know, another talking point.
Speaker 1: I guess funny.
Speaker 3: We did ten Dogs on Tuesday, by the way, and
the main topic was Wow, it didn't happen. What do
you think is going on?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Let it left the record show. We both thought it
was still happening. Yeah, we don't do it stupid at
least uh huh. I thought it was still happening.
Speaker 1: Believe Nate understood that it probably was a marketing shift. Yeah,
I guess let's talk about that direct announced out of nowhere.
You were wondering on Blue Sky, like, what is the
point of that? What does it accomplish? And Mike, I
just don't I guess the one answer I would have
is like maybe a cynical one of they want to
see what the numbers could be for a direct in
a world where there are as few live co streamed
talkovers as possible. But I don't know why they would
care about that all that much. So that's that I
don't really think that's what they why they did this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it just seems I mean, I just think logically, no,
maybe can say it's not a huge difference, but logically,
if you get people a day heads up as opposed
to a ten minute heads up, more people will be watching.
And it seems to be the goal for these things. Again,
not some big deal, but it is strange, and Nintendo
is a strange company.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, yeah. I was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben Hanson was on it. I was proud of Ben.
I was driving.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I should just rush home and try to
do this real quick, but it's like by the time
I get there, this thing's got to be over and
you guys, so who knows who else could even do
it with me?
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, we did a short instead. I was
I was, I think I was at like I was
eating or something. I was like, oh, oh gosh, what's
going on.
Speaker 1: Yep, I kind of just pulled over, went to where
I was heading, and then I watched most of it
while I was there.
Speaker 3: Did you see that they have already added ten tracks
from the game to Nintendo Music So I didn't see that, Okay,
and we got a music steepyk uh.
Speaker 2: Also not born thing.
Speaker 3: I don't love when we just called games the name
of the original game again, right, yeah, I don't like.
I mean, now forever, this game is gonna be star
Fox twenty twenty six when we talk about it in.
Speaker 1: The future, stuff like that.
Speaker 3: It's also weird because and I know that Star foxy
four is a remake of Star Fox, but this game
is a remake remake of star Fox sixty four, So
the remake of Star Fucks sixty four is just called
star Fox, but it's more like star Fox sixty four.
Speaker 1: Then it's like star Fox. It's it's pretty fucking stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, that was like, wait, what okay, So to
me when they said that, actually, when that was Miamota
who said that. To me, that was suggestings like this
is gonna be sort of a broad reimagining of a
lot of the early star Fox games, and really the
first two Star Fox games all together.
Speaker 2: And then it was like just star Fox sixty four.
Speaker 1: I was okay, all right, a little bit scaled back
from what I thought that suggested, so that made the
name even weirder. But yeah, that's that's star Fox. I'm
pretty excited just because it does mean that that, you know,
we'll get a chance to play this game, which I'm
looking forward to, and Okeren of Time is probably happening,
happening later this year, so very cool. All right, up next,
rock Stars should raise GTA six's price for the good
of the entire industry, says Bank of America Mike. This
is one of those analysts kind of running their mouth
about Grand Theft Auto six.
Speaker 2: It seems like that's their entire job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the reason that they came up now, please that
they came up with is if they don't charge eighty
dollars for this game, no game is going to be
able to charge eighty dollars, you know, obviously, Mario Kart aside,
because what game can come out after Grand Theft Auto
six and say we are more expensive than Grand Theft
Auto six.
Speaker 2: Now, that's still going to be challenging.
Speaker 1: If you're a game and you're like, we're just as
expensive as Grand Theft Auto six. That's not as bad
though as saying you are more expensive. So I get
the reasoning, but maybe shut the fuck up right.
Speaker 3: Like, he's right in that, I kind of agree if
this game's not eighty dollars, I don't know if I
think it could be eighty dollars.
Speaker 1: He's wrong in that that.
Speaker 3: Would be some terrible thing for the game industry per se. Now,
I bet I bet this game will cost eighty dollars,
if not more right, that's definitely where I would bet
it's going to end up.
Speaker 1: Let's bring this one up right now, a story ahead
a year later. I don't want like anyone to be
like hitting the panic button on this. This is a
very early stuff. I don't know how like if this
is the full picture, but there was a headline over
on I think it was the sixth axis. Maybe push square.
Poor start for PS five exclusive Saros as first sales
data emerges. Basically, they're like Sony's latest games. Saro's launched
on April thirtieth, and it's seen a slow sales start,
at least according to like the PlayStation Store charts for
North America and Europe were ranked eleventh and seventeenth, respectively.
Speaker 2: That was sound a.
Speaker 1: Couple of days of sales though, although usually apparently they
go higher these new games even if they have a
couple of days. In the UK for the physical charts,
it was outsold by Tomadacci Life and Cyberpunk twenty seventy
seven Ultimate Edition.
Speaker 2: I don't know, does that begin to sound like this
game is in trouble again?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't necessarily think so. But what
I do want to ask Mike is this game is
seventy dollars. It is a house smart game where that's
a studio that once made arcade style games that were
ten to twenty five dollars.
Speaker 2: Now they've sort of shifted.
Speaker 1: Into being like we are another one of these sony
first party studios, and Returnal we proved that could be
like that's just like another PlayStation game, another PlayStation first
party game, and.
Speaker 2: We're going to do that even bigger with sorrows.
Speaker 1: Do you think like people who are like still kind
of hung up on seventy dollars right now, because it
certainly seems that way, and.
Speaker 3: Maybe I mean Returnal was seventy dollars. That was kind
of one of the first ones, and at the time
it kind of seemed shocking for that game, and that
game seemed to do really well, and you would hope that,
you know, the popularity of that game, and then you know,
this game getting reviews, that that would sort of transfer
to a really hot start. Again, this maybe is not
enough data to really say, yeah, we don't weigh or another,
but I would I would hope for a good performance
for the game, and if it wasn't, I would be
concerned about exactly that how much are people willing to
spend on full price games at this moment when there's
a lot of other economic pressures and there's a lot
of cheaper ways to play video games? Then go by
a new single player game for seventy dollars. You could
just buy some other big single player games from a
couple of years ago that in terms of scale and
scope and graphics and other things aren't any worse. Or
you could just go play some free to play game
that is going to give you thousands of hours of
entertainment if that's.
Speaker 1: Your gym exactly, And then you know, to this point,
I mean, the next story here is survey says sixty
two percent of hardcore players no longer buy full price games,
and like, as as players get older, they're and they
have you know, you would argue they would have more
discretionary spending. That's typically the way it works, that's how
the trend goes. The older the gamer, the less likely
they are to spend full price on a new video game.
That's you know, you could chalk that up to less time,
but I think it's this is a business. This is
a market that trains people to look for deals like
we are. You know, the more savvy of a gaming
consumer you become, the less likely it would seem to
me that you would be to spend full price on
a new video game. You you know which ones to
wait for, and I think everyone's sort of pegged sorrows
early on is one of these ones that's like, I
will get that lin, it's on safe, and it's hard
for these games to sort of break out of that
that feeling once people apply it to it, no matter
how good they are, it's like, no, I've already decided
I'm going to wait, and people are pretty good at
being patient. And then, you know, that is a muscle
we've all built up. Even more recently as you pointed
out the wider economic issues continue to you know, like
beat people down, you know, with Ohio. Now we got
five dollars per gallon gas and that's like, you know,
I thought I thought we were going to escape most
event It's like, no, we had that like the second
highest increase month to month in gas prices and say, okay, no,
it's hitting everywhere.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just going to keep getting worse too.
Speaker 1: So I think that this is a at These continue
to be problems for this industry and it's not going
to hurt the biggest of the biggest games.
Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot.
Speaker 1: I think this is where we do see like these
indie darlings recently, like Slay the Spire too just you know,
do massively huge sales on day one. It's because once
you get below forty forty dollars, people are willing to
sort of drop money immediately, no problem, But that's seventy
dollars price tag is kind of still like this albatross
around next when.
Speaker 3: I saw me to the hollower get that twenty dollars
price and I was like, oh the soak song praise, yes, hey,
I'm like exactly that might be smart. Uh. By the way,
a little breaking news here, Leon must die forever. Minigame
free update is out now for Resident Evil requiem.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's exciting. So do we have an idea of
like how it plays.
Speaker 3: It's like now, I think it just kind of shadow
dropped right now. Everybody interesting, I don't know, someone go
someone go playing or chat, let us know what it is.
Speaker 4: It's a four hundred megabytes update. I know because he's
still not in it right now on Steam.
Speaker 1: I see bock buzz streaming right now.
Speaker 5: It looks like it's kind of just.
Speaker 1: Like a ord mode ish thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, I see a timer on screen and Leon has
to complete objectives before a timer counts down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they're the resinue like o G for a moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean if they've done a million of these kinds
of things before, so they're going to always be pulling
from a huge library of potential DLCs. And then you know,
after watching you and Dan stream that, uh that Resident
Evil seven DLC was it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I play as the old uncle who punches things.
Speaker 1: Yes, once I saw that, my eye need to be
playing more Resident Evil DLC. I've had good time, good
times with it before time to get back on that
train for sure. All right, last story that I wanted
to bring up before we go over to the super chats,
uh take two. Straus Selnik have been opening up this week. Basically,
he's been addressing a lot of things that people have
been wondering about outside of grand theft Auto six. Uh,
he said, BioShock. They've wasted a lot of time and
money trying to get that right. They still wouldn't say
why they delayed it after some internal reviews weren't happy
with the story. I remember that being the the the narrative.
We all worried that it was like you woke, yeah,
right right next in that moment, it was when things
if things are too woke, that's bad for business because
Trump will come after you. Uh that's certainly past. But
you know, they probably already have made their decision. Uh.
Sibs seven got it wrong, said, I think this is
not This was not strauss Zelnick.
Speaker 3: I believe it. Oh it was, Okay, it was Yeah.
He liked the clear responsibility for Yeah, I think this
is also strass.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, man, I know because I had to show this
Morty called game mess the sides where I talked.
Speaker 1: About, yeah, that's right, okay, fantastic. So yeah, he was like, hey,
we we had the thanks. They had the civilization switching
feature of like you start as one civilization, then you
reach to be good the like the gimmick this time
around for sure, and they're getting rid of that and.
Speaker 2: Replaced it with it like you're just gonna be playing
it like you.
Speaker 3: Get your You could still do that, to be clear,
you can pick like forever civilizations that you do the
entire Yeah, a lot of people didn't like it, say
it doesn't feel like Civilization, And to me, it's this
weird thing of you know, you can't just make a
new sieve every five years and it automatically makes sense
because the games is gonna look better take advantage of technology.
We're no, you have to figure out how is this
game going to be different, So you have to invent
some reason. But then you risk like people are like, well,
now I don't think this feels enough like Civilization anymore.
I was gonna go play Civilization six, which like graphically
does not look any worse than this game, right, it's
just a different art style at this point.
Speaker 1: So uh.
Speaker 3: They also had to do this or some other updates there.
I'm curious that this is the beginning of the Civilization
seven redemption arc before Yeah, yeah, because you know then
there'll be a full size expansion at some point as well.
I have no doubt eventually a lot more people are
gonna like seven. You know, I've always been a bit
of a defender of it, but yeah, interesting this happened.
Speaker 1: I Yeah, I like when I see this happen, it's like, Yeah,
that's one of those franchises that's just in that mode
kind of forever now, where it's where SIMS has been
from the beginning.
Speaker 2: Basically every time they have a sim.
Speaker 1: Sequel, people care about the new what the new tech
allows them to do, but what they really want to
do is continue the STU that they left off in
the last game, and it always takes them years to
get back to that point. With maxis over there and
now SIV is certainly in that spot as well. He
also talked about in NFL two K revival that didn't
work out creatively. He put it, that was I remember
the rumors around there. That was a long time ago
now though, So he is just addressing all of these
things and the timing seems like the right Yeah, that
seems like the right time to do that, because you
get all of these stories out of the way, you've
answered them as much as you can right now, where
it's like, hey, now people don't have to ask the
next time we have an earnings call, and especially because
the next time we have an earnings call, Grand Theft Autos,
you know, once they release Grand Theft Auto six, Grand
Theft Auto six will be out and we could just
talk about how good that's doing and sort of just
have a clear runway for growth, especially of the stock price,
as there's no more negative stories to address.
Speaker 2: We've already done it. That's what it seems like he's
doing to me, What do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that sounds right right, and it's I
guess it's a little bit of a good show, Like
how much trouble this company would probably be in if
they didn't happen to be the Grand Theft Auto rock
Star yep.
Speaker 1: People, Yeah, some interesting things that.
Speaker 3: Gosh, I wonder what BioShock for looks like if we
ever actually be that game, if we ever actually see
Judas for that matter, we're on the other side of things.
But yeah, yeah, just I do. I guess I appreciate
some of the bluttonous here. This is maybe a bit
more exposure than we oftentimes get. I think, yeah, you're
probably right on why this is happening now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I also do appreciate.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you know, Listen straus Elnik doesn't play
games that bothers me. I will never accuse him of
not being sharp. He he knows what he's talking about,
he knows what he's doing. That's why it's not really
a problem that he is he doesn't play games because
he just gets a lot of the other aspects of this.
I just said it bothers me. But you know, as
long as he kind of keeps running things the way
he has been, I think you'll typically kind of figure
these things out, because I don't think it like when
he has these problems with SIV, the idea is and
like let's sort of completely retreat, like we'll keep trying.
And I appreciate that. All Right, those the headlines I
wanted to talk about. Mike.
Speaker 2: Let's take a break, we'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll get into the super chats and talk about what
chat wants to talk about. Right after this All right,
we are back, Mike. Let's do those superchats.
Speaker 3: Ohrighty, I am super excited to see what people want
to talk about. We are starting up. There's this chat
summary goes away. If he's the chat, they're saying they
have major concerns about the hygiene and environmental impact of
cruise ships. Yes, oh you're talking about that virus. All right,
I'm it from Saskatchewan says forget Mother's Day cards? Where
do we address our Melo cards? Happy Anniversary Sunday? Malo
merch mugs? Christian, how will you celebrate Malo?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what malow is?
Speaker 2: All right, you worried about that, Christian? No one does.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's May tenth and also a new word
for calendars.
Speaker 5: Come on, I'm scared.
Speaker 3: Jeff uh Aeriel though Gods says, seeing how star Fux looks,
what does this me? Frog RT remake will look like
fifty seven and be split into two or three parts.
Just wanted a new Star Fucks. I mean I wouldn't
gleam too much about what starfucks? I mean, what a
great time riam is gonna look like? Based exactly yes, yeah,
except that, like it will be a total graphics conversion, right,
It's not just gonna be some kind of texture swap
updated necessarily. I don't think it's going I don't think
it'll look any more realistic then say Wilight Princess does. Right, Like,
it's still fidelity than that, I mean, but like, it's
not gonna be less stylized than that.
Speaker 1: Right. So one of the reasons I brought up, like
the they worked backwards from the YouTuber stuff. It's just
a point out like Nintendo doesn't normally just say let's
make it look as realistic as possible. Right, They're doing
that in the Star Fox case because it serves this
other gimmick. That's the real point I'm trying to make there.
They probably will not have who knows, maybe they will
have the exact same gimmick in Zelda.
Speaker 2: I doubt it.
Speaker 1: I think in that case they would probably keep it
pretty stylized.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with Mike, And then.
Speaker 1: You know it, it'll it'll have like moments where it's like,
oh wow, that is basically photorealistic, but there will be
filters on.
Speaker 3: Top and yeah, yeah, I'm very curious because yeah, it
is a bit of a special work there. I do
not think it's going to be a fund Basis seven
type thing where it gets really super expanded and kind
of remixed into some new three part thing. I think
this game is mostly going to be just okerine of time.
Speaker 1: Also like Trams, when we got those rumors, uh, there
was always the part of that rumor was always Zelda's
got like, I'm sorry that with star Fox. Starbucks has
really like impressively upgraded visuals. They're really going for it.
The same is not bit said about Zelda, so I
would not pair them together visually. That boy Jersis.
Speaker 3: During b Light Club, Mike made a joke about a
character named Rohan, saying, Rohan calls for aid, but the
line's clearly gone to our calls for aid. Boy, I
really hope somebody got fired for that, right, gond Or
calls for aid from Rohan. That is burshering on my part.
Speaker 2: Did your brothers mention anything? Were they mad at you?
Speaker 3: I didn't say anything, christ Ndil or whatever and start
attacking you. No, Chris did not try to stab me
with his sword. Boy, there's a there's a picture of
like the whole collection at one point and it's it's wild.
There's a lot of Lord of the Ring swords.
Speaker 1: I have to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he hasn't been able to display for a while
because of the young kids.
Speaker 1: Right charge.
Speaker 2: I didn't think about that. He still has them, they're
just in storage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has them on storage right now, and like
hell yeah yeah yeah, and someday some day they're coming
back out. Afrockmed says, since the new Star Fucks game
is a remake, Uncle, a time is room to be
a remake. Do you think the Super Metro remake rumor
is more legitimate? I mean not anymore or less because
it wasn't parts of this Nate they hate drop, right,
I know there's some other stuff. It was added on
by someone else, yes, right, So I still am skeptical
of that.
Speaker 1: Of course it could happen. Seem to be.
Speaker 3: You know, we've been We've been getting other remakes from
Nintendo recently, like Thousand Year Door, like Mario RPG, like
Advanced Wars. So they do they do do that, yes,
they so, although in terms of like the like Super
the Super Nintendo Big Ones, it's like Mario World, Yo
Zion one, Super Metroid linked to the past. They've never
touched those for remix. There's been ports and things like that.
They thought about remaking links to the past, and they
were like, let's just make a sequel actually instead, and
I thought that was definitely the right call there.
Speaker 1: And then also part of that rumor which again we
don't we don't know how real that is, and lots
of reasons to be skeptical, but it's like they would
upgrade with pixel graphics, so would still be you know,
two D in that style. It's like, yeah, what does
that even look like. That's not something we've seen from
Nintendo a bunch of times before, which is one of
the reasons I think we don't see a lot of
Super Nintendo remix, like you were saying, So, yeah, maybe
the breaking the seal with this one. I guess if
they were to do that, Super metroin makes a lot
of sense to me. That's the one where it's like
you stand to gain the most with Super Metroid makes sense.
All right?
Speaker 3: Next up is from Zombie porin. All right, boys, now
that we know can be done, we need to hack
into grubs Robot lomo Er. Next time he talks about
Italian food will be his.
Speaker 1: Mafia.
Speaker 3: Frett gonna make your lawnmower murder you.
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have that brand of lawnmower, but that that
should not stop you from trying to hack my lawnmower
and have me killed. For sure.
Speaker 3: Lex Lay says, my sense would be proud of this podcast.
Speaker 2: That's the mindsight ladies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just drop the sense for no reason, Like, what
the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Uh huh, I think we we we did not appreciate
that line h when we were when we were playing,
but uh boy, that that was pretty funny.
Speaker 2: How bad that was? I had a good time.
Speaker 3: That was wild and also like not accomplished. But I
think the point of it was you expose the saboteurs
of build a rocket point accomplished.
Speaker 4: Until the very end to be like she will look
at the camera and start of like dropping some like
fox what happened?
Speaker 5: And I know you just send them.
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted.
Speaker 3: Uh. Missouri Matt says, thank you Mike and Jeff for
the content. You're welcome, Missouri Matt appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Alian Merkle says, I'm a fan of this two series
game Messaga of the Missing Case Universe's most conflictingly hot
anthro man yep, just about Rushmore coming soon? Everybody mount
Rushmore and anthe mexical not hottest answer pormorph vide game
characters just the best. Uh, but we're gonna get to that.
Do you think best is? I was almost right. Something
did child drop? I feel pretty good about I think
all the things I said on Tuesday pretty much being right.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm feeling pretty good. I was like,
didn't foresee the direct being shadow dropped, but I don't
think they're gonna shadow drop the game For a moment
they're during that direct, I'm like, are they just shadow
dropping this game?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: It's a bit over a month away, not that long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we can talk to that.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, for the most part, they actually stuck
to what all the most obvious things were, and yeah,
that was pretty easy to call. Uh.
Speaker 3: Fire Hairs says in the key Lee voice, Fox McLeod has.
Speaker 1: Risen mm hmmm.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Chuck Tawski says, you never had control, that's the illusion now.
I was overwhelmed by the power of this place. Well,
I made a mistake too. I'd have enough respect for
that power and it's out now. Ah right, the electricity,
I get it right, Yes, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Corona Rick says hate dogs.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I saw a clip of
Sally Field talking about her playing Breath of the Loud
on the Switch too.
Speaker 1: Just made me laugh.
Speaker 3: And it's always weird when like celebrities talk about video games,
like I guess real people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah right, I agree, yeah yeah, Like it was
like like back of they would probably it was like
I played Legend Zoe'm like you did, yeah right, No,
that doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 1: You didn't even do you even exist in the same
universe as Zelda?
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I think I saw a clip today of a Dale
Earnhardt Junior on a podcast with his wife, and his
wife's like, the other host is like, if you can
make any law, what would you make She's like, I
would make it so if you're over twenty five can't
play video games.
Speaker 2: And Dale Earnhard's like.
Speaker 1: Fuck you basically, and he goes, I'll make a law
of video games to rely like, oh I didn't, Dale Earnhard,
I didn't realize you were one. Yeah, I wasn't familiar
with your games. Wow, that's incredible, incredible thing. We still
have the angry. Yeah, not gonna go away. Some people
just don't have personality, so they got to be mad
when people have hobbyes.
Speaker 3: Right right, I want to be like, how many Hallmark
original movies did you watch this year?
Speaker 2: Ma'am right?
Speaker 3: Give me and I won't begrunt you out.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's fine, come on.
Speaker 3: Next up is outer Heaven, who says, who is gonna
claim what starfuck's YouTuber? I'll be honest, I want slippy Toad,
and I think everyone else wants me to be slippy Toad,
So I think that's easy.
Speaker 1: I think that that is just canonically true in like
it's in the Bible.
Speaker 2: Mike is slippy.
Speaker 5: Don't you feel.
Speaker 1: It's okay? That's all right?
Speaker 2: At least I got hey, at least I got inside,
you know exactly?
Speaker 1: I I god, I think I would like I should
probably do peppy, but I'm afraid.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't hear it. Yeah I didn't hear it.
Did he have one?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I just like I like I in my fancasting like back, look,
I like you as Fox Macloud, you can be the
hero I'll do.
Speaker 1: I'll do Fox McLoud for sure. I'm afraid of doing
Peppy as well, because once I slip into that voice,
I'm gonna just say something racist. That's what that voice does.
So yeah, absolutely maybe Fox McLoud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, and then Danny Jakin take turns
with Foco. But we're doing it anyways, all right. Next
up here is from Kronobrig hate dogs. I like the
look of the Starbucks crew, but can we get hower
the duck as a DLC character law they'll fit perfectly?
And oh yeah, like I like them. There is definitely
a bit of a there is that vibe. I understand
why some people don't. What what I don't like is
in the big full body shots they have the tiny
little animal feet, and I'm like, I'll give them big boots.
I don't know if I need those cyber boots that
have like the little claws and fox that have like
the actual little like fox feet. It don't really make
sense for something standing up on two feet. It's a
small thing. Yep, tuber sus star Fox is so realistic.
You have to keep them away from Mike's grandpa.
Speaker 2: I shall not suffer a dog to live.
Speaker 3: But what my grandpa would think about this introduced by
just strangers on the internet, just.
Speaker 1: Like, uh yeah, if I could like bring a dead
grandparent back to life and just show them this thing, like, hey,
what do you think about this? They I just yeah,
they would have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3: Eat Jacklobe, thank you Sarch for the five Yeah, gifted
memberships to uh the YouTube premium YouTube club here. What
are they called? YouTube YouTube premium? Guess his YouTube memberships.
I guess it's called yeah, YouTube premium. Yes, YouTube memberships.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, jackal I appreciate that. Uh, Birguson? What
what are the best three star games of all time?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Just a star in the name? Okay, not star Field.
Speaker 1: No Goku's or what because I mean, I guess no,
that doesn't make sense because trying.
Speaker 3: If you want to, I mean, I could say Star
Wars Nights of the Older Public probably makes it in there.
Uh boy, I as much I like Star Tropics, I
don't know if I'm gonna throw that one. And their
oh Fantasy Star Ship is counting. That's the fan star
for Fantasy Star on.
Speaker 5: That's a question. You know, it's the best three star
game of all time?
Speaker 4: Like, what's it like a game that's a three star
that is the best of them all.
Speaker 3: Like, all right, he's right, I thought I thought instead
of r by accident and cor auto corrected it myself. Yeah, man,
I liked I almost like the question I made up
more like StarCraft control other things. Boy, Christian, you're so
correct in this case.
Speaker 1: What is the best three star game of all time? Yeah,
that's what it says. Good job, Christian, You're better than us.
That's funny.
Speaker 3: We were just doing a completely completely.
Speaker 5: I answer saying that was a good question too. Everybody wins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went all right.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're all still friends here. So a
three star, Like when I give a game a three star,
it is part of my own personal sort of star system,
where one is this is one of the worst things
I've ever played.
Speaker 2: I hate it, hate to hate it.
Speaker 1: Two is I do not like it, Three is I
like it, four is I love it, and five is
this is one of the best games I've ever played.
Speaker 2: So three is I like it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of games that I just like. I
don't know. That's that's tough. Is it is it just returnal?
Maybe that this one could just be returnal?
Speaker 3: Maybe this one could just say you just say returnal
God Army like once a go into my infinite backlog
thing and just organize it by my rating and get
to the three stars. Although that's not necessarily easier said
than done. And I want to sit here forever doing this,
but I don't take the sake with three star games
that I have to admit and look, I have loved
my hair for three Star games.
Speaker 1: I don't think about them a lot.
Speaker 3: There's something about the three starness of a game that
makes them somewhat forget abner.
Speaker 4: That will satisfy both questions and the one Mike made
up and the one the actual question.
Speaker 3: And we thread this needle the first and leash. Oh
that's pretty good. Actually bad, that's not terrible. I'm looking
at mine right now. Uh gosh, herby sixty four is
an option here. Uh Tega Sega Swirl Dega swirls the
best three star game.
Speaker 1: Of all time? There?
Speaker 2: What is Sega Swirl?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: That was the free puzzle game we got in the
Dreamcast when they launched the internet thing. Oh oh wow,
okay it was like the next Si HD of its time, right, okay, fantastic,
all right, next up is from Alex Gogo. I just
got done playing Rez Before remake turns out it's really good.
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it, and what's
the game? You missed the boat on until years after
it came out? I swear, I actually hear like more
people bringing up Razi Before is an all time great game.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Then the year it came out, which somehow it felt
like it was a bit of a uphill battle for
me to give it game of the Year conversation recognition
a little bit, not like a ton but you know,
there are people at the time like, well, that's a remake,
and I was like, well, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Actually, really, it.
Speaker 3: Seems like that game gets tons of respect now. He
missed the boat down until years after it came out.
I mean I had a whole thing with twenty nineteen recently,
multiple games from that year. Yeah, big ones being Outer Wilds,
It's control and that Sakaro is here a Sacroo and
I played. I was like, I can't believe I didn't
play through this thing just right away.
Speaker 1: It is so freaking good. It's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah for me.
Speaker 1: The one that's coming to mind is probably Kotor actually
I missed it right when it happened and then got
an Xbox years later to play it and was very
happy that I did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean I just played Rezivil two like
the original for the first time. That's a nineteen ninety
eight classic. I'm like, well, still great. I'm like, I
love doing this all the time, honestly, like going back
and playing the all time you know, I played a
lot of games, can't play them all, so I love
going back and catching up on the all time greats.
I still haven't gotten to. Yeah, there's still plenty of
those that do. I still have, like you know, Zeno
Gears and the other things of that ILK big games
that I am going to get to play through at
some point and I'm looking forward to it. Next up
is Banjo Kazoo City four US says, what up, guys.
I love how they kept Peppi's voice as a pack
of day smoker.
Speaker 1: It would be.
Speaker 3: Awesome if there was a way to pile out the
Great Fox, because that was an unfounded rumor unlockable for
Star Fox sixty four. Oh I kind of remember that,
yeah back in the day. Now, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
don't know if we'll get anything that quite that ambitious
per se.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be cool.
Speaker 1: They just like did like add one new kind of
vehicle or something, or even like through in some on
foot stages instead of like bridged bridges a sob to
assault or something like that. But now it's just just
all the sixty four levels.
Speaker 3: Randy Brady says. People theorize the star Fox looks is
to discourage furries. Wrong, that's trying to find a deeper,
sicker furry. The who's this coasits hotter rock of furies?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to google with this person carefully now. Oh,
so this is a reference to Dune, Yes, because of.
Speaker 5: A Dune reference.
Speaker 1: It's a Dune reference.
Speaker 3: I see, has anybody done fan art yet of what
Crystal would look like in this art style?
Speaker 1: Yes, I haven't seen it, but I'm sure positive that
this has happened.
Speaker 3: Sean said. No, I think Sean would know. Shawn is
our Crystal.
Speaker 2: Sean disappointed. Boys, Sean isn't ready to see what's out there?
Speaker 5: Have you check for a nation aka tumbler? Maybe that's
what Oh, it's tumblr is.
Speaker 2: For a nation?
Speaker 1: No Christian?
Speaker 3: Oh honey, it used to be d Vian art, right,
Is that still the case they all retreated to the grounds.
Oh no, we just we just don't know anymore. We
just don't know they're in hiding. It's yeah, huh, Mike,
Michael or Oleary says, Mike, are you aware that A C.
A ductails figures are for pure or if not, they're
very good. I'm aware and they do look great. I
I don't know. I don't know if I need a
little figures much.
Speaker 1: I love ducktails.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I need these little figures. I
am running out of like shelf space to put stuff
and everyone, so I just get sent things. But I
do need to put a shelf like over here along
the swallo where he said my keyboard or games. So
I don't know, but I think I'm probably good. I
can at other ductail adjacent things. I honestly I have
enough already, probably. Tuber says the Guazit's hater Fox.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty good. Nice.
Speaker 3: Jack Lib says, always a treat to catch you alive.
Ex say for Independence Week, thanks as always for all
the great content. Thank you with jacko lope, I appreciate that,
and thank you for the five gifted memberships earlier. I remember,
I appreciate that, all right, YouTube just forrash one in
a moment love when it does that.
Speaker 2: They don't want you to read Who's Next Chris Pratt.
Speaker 3: Wahoo says, please remake Adventures so we can see Crystal
four K. That'll really make me say, Mushroom Kingdom, here
we come. Incredible, Chris Pratt. Thanks with star fucks. I
can beat it three times a day. I do wonder
what that discourse is gonna be like, because a lot
of people are gonna buy this game for fifty or
sixty dollars realize you can kind of complete a run
of it in an hour, and then I expect to
get mad, Yeah, not really understanding that you're supposed to,
you know, play it through a bunch and there's different paths,
and I mean, I guess that's maybe the thing I'm
most disappointed about is they could have updated the structure
to encourage like everyone to play through. They could have
made it more of a straight up rogue light and
you know they're not doing that. They're making in sixty
four game again. So I get it, and I'll be
happy with that. That's fine, But there.
Speaker 2: Are ways to get people to like go.
Speaker 1: Through that content over and over again that a lot
of people are used to, and I kind of think
it's a missed opportunity that they didn't go for that
with this.
Speaker 4: Good job sig enticing that one, Mike, that was pretty good.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Hillard Hendricks says, I guarantee Rabru will be a goat
man in the Opera at a Time remake. Also, did
you see Corey Baruck reply to reply on a Mike's skeet?
It ended up on blar Whi's g l.
Speaker 2: A Gaming Leaks and Rumors is glar?
Speaker 1: What the heck did I ski with?
Speaker 3: The only skid I had that popped off super res
I think was the one making fun of the Star
Fucks remake situation? What else did I say recently? How
did I get on Gaming Leaks and Rumors? What the
hell did I do? Is that about Star Tropics?
Speaker 1: Oh, Cory Barlog is making a Star Tropics game? Uh wait,
Mike can't read? Okay, maybe said this thing? Did you
see Corey? No, that's what it says, replied to a
reply on a Mike's ski Okay, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
So someone applied to you, and then cor what barlog
replied to that person and then that ended up on
Gaming Leaks and Rumors. I don't know, I'll guess I'll
check Gaming leaks and rumors. Did this happen recently?
Speaker 5: The link?
Speaker 4: So your skid mic was, so, what's exactly the benefit
of dropping intender eg instead of.
Speaker 5: Even a hess up?
Speaker 4: And then suck mild said to own Nate a hate
for a week and Cory Vargo said, totally support that.
Speaker 1: Oh oh because Corey, because I mean Nate did reply.
Speaker 3: Do your reply on that? So that's probably how game
recently versa because they got in the thread.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, what that's what I mean.
Speaker 5: I'm looking.
Speaker 4: I'm looking the I'm looking for the actual thing that
should somebody on on the rate.
Speaker 1: They I know that that team over there, Yeah, the
teams that like, what is that Sony, that's that's Santa Monica.
Speaker 5: Found that's true, it is. I don't know, it's not
like till the maybe he is.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I know that they talk about
they talk about I get it. They don't absolutely not,
and that's their opinion. They're allowed to have it. Absolute. Yeah,
like we.
Speaker 2: Work, we have different jobs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I I Ervid Corey back in the day,
but when it was like the E three, when the
first Scot of War reboot was made.
Speaker 1: He was a real shock. He was one of my
fair people interviews.
Speaker 3: He's real nice and he like he worked on that
Star Wars live action show, like the one George Lucas
What's going to make? Like we were talking about that
for a while and it was super interesting. So that's
kind of stuff. Okay, I'm excited to see what the
next games. That's really funny though. That is really funny,
all right. Next up, it's from Gene Nightro. I refuse
to pay seventy dollars, so eight hours is laughable to me.
There's no sale to put it around or less than
sixty dollars. I will just wait. I know too many
games to spend that much on new games. I mean again,
it used to just be Jeff, you kind of felt like, well,
I had to pay full price for the new game
because I want to play new games. Those are exciting
and inherently distinct and different from the old games. And
it's not like that. I morning a lot of people
still want want the new games because there's a zeitgeist
and there is still a coatment around that's going to
have like it'll be impressive.
Speaker 1: Tech, right, Like, yeah, so it's gonna be able to
wow people. But yeah, I think generally speaking, and even
in the case of Grand Theft Outo six, you're absolutely
right that that is where we're at, where people have
enough games that they're into and people have certainly been
trained to be like, I guess maybe I don't even
need the most flashiest graphics to have a great time
in games, and I could save a lot of money.
Speaker 2: This is what happens.
Speaker 1: You raise the price, you price up some of the people,
and then you know, do you make it up for
do you make that up like by eventually selling it
to them at a price, like a higher price than
maybe they would have paid before. Like you're probably gonna
wait for a seal in a lot of cases, but
maybe now you'll you'll get if it does drop to sixty,
whereas before you would have waited for forty or something
like that. So they're just trying to like move up
the slider of the amount of money people are willing
to pay. And yeah, I think it'll be eighty. It's
it stinks, but I do think it will be eighty.
Speaker 3: This is if this really is Corey bar Log, he's
following me in Blue Sky.
Speaker 1: I just followed him back. I gotta make sure. Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's also followed by a bunch of like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah Radar.
Speaker 3: Also, when I said Corey Baurog earlier, it's because the
super chat said that before.
Speaker 1: I do know the difference.
Speaker 3: I do know he's not the ancient demon of the
Deep from the Lord of the Rings universe of Middle Earth.
Speaker 1: Now he's That.
Speaker 5: Would be pretty cool though.
Speaker 1: Next up is from Jedi Moss.
Speaker 3: What do you make of retailers giving ten dollars discounts
on Nintendo's next switch to games on physical Yoshi s
Platoon and star Fox to match the digital rice. Is
this a direct thing? Is this actually happening?
Speaker 1: Jeff?
Speaker 2: This is this is really happening. So uh already for
star Fox, Walmart will sell it to you for fifty dollars.
It's just a suggested retail price, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yep? And like the biggest retail I mean, honestly, this
is one of the issues with this. Is this this
step in super benefits the biggest retailers, Amazon and Walmart
can if the real reason this is happening is because
Nintendo's like, we need more of the money when we
sell you a game. So here's this new suggested retail
price for the physical version. Uh. And what that means
is when you buy the game from us, you've got
to give us more money up front, you know, just
more money when you buy the game to then sell
the game. Uh. And for Amazon and Walmart, they're like, yeah, yeah,
that's our margins are like one percent. Anyhow, we make
it up, make it up, We make it up in volume.
That is not going to be the case for any
other small retailer, and not even some of the other
bigger retailers like Target's probably not going to be able
to do this. So right, I don't know, spy can
right best spy, Yes exactly. So it kind of just
favors the already biggest retailers. Now, yeah, I mean you
got to do what's best for you. Get the game
at the price you could the best price you could
possibly get it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I completely understand that. But I still think this is
a temporary good and that we will be in a
world here pretty soon where it's like, man, what you
remember that time, it was like fifty and sixty and
now it's like eighty and ninety.
Speaker 2: Man, that kind of kept stuck up on us. But
we'll see.
Speaker 3: Chris prattwell who says star fucks and there's a U,
there's the US an umlaut Yeah, does that big? It's
star food star Fuchs like Star Wars. Yeah, Star Foods,
Star Foods.
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3: Bulletproof Moon says steam Deck broke before Semester's over? My
only no, and won't rm aid before mina the Hallow
everything is not coming up, Mikey, Sorry about that, Bulletproof over.
Speaker 1: That's rough. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: It turns around soon, imagine break you know, the Hallow're
getting that funny game that released, say, coming out pretty soon,
twenty bucks. I am very excited about that. Man, there's
suddenly like a ton of games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, right. Uh.
Speaker 3: Breno Rick says, hey, dogs, the end of year numbers
are the night. Is there any number that the investors
won't complain about? And will we hear anything about price.
Speaker 1: In this we talk about Nintendo is going to be
reporting their annual numbers overnight tonight, so I think investors
will be anxious about the amount of money that Nintendo
is making from selling hardware. We already know that's the case.
It will continue coming out of this. I think Nintendo
will try to point them to the massive success of Pacopia,
and then they will point to Tomodacci Life to be like, look,
we don't need to make our money from the hardware.
Let's let it like was don't, We don't, and we
want as many people playing these games as possible. I
think Nintendo doesn't want to raise the price if they
can avoid it. I think they see this as a
moment to grow the Switch To. I think they see
that they have momentum, which was a question mark a
few months back. Now that they have it, the worst
thing that they could do is raise the price of
the console and a time when everyone's like convincing themselves
to go buy it for Pacopia and Tomodacci Life and
Tomodachia Life. Switch one game, but it's absolutely part of
the conversation people tell themselves when they're going to buy
a switch To. Yeah, we'll see. Investors will put pressure
on Nintendo. Though Nintendo very good at resisting that pressure.
Not all companies are. Nintendo is very good at it.
Speaker 3: Next up is gen Nitro Pistons take Game two over Calves.
Final score len O seven the ninety seven. Oh now
that's that's two. Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Too on Detroit, right, it's you know, if the series
doesn't begin until someone loses at home, so let's see
what happens. Well, yeah, that's that's fair.
Speaker 3: I think the last series actually was just everybody won
their home games going the entire way, at least the
last calv series.
Speaker 1: That's especially true in basketball. It's like if if until
someone loses at home, it's not really a series. If
the Calves lose at home, obviously really bad. But if
they start winning at home, then it's like, okay, well
let's see what happens here.
Speaker 3: In game seven, Porty Wapa says, hey, boys, I start
chemo for rectal cancer next week. Can't game during treatment.
So any podcast to kill time? Found an own wall,
an old one called The Exploding Barrel. Handy good, get
your calling oscopis, folks.
Speaker 1: It's got a couple okay, episodees the one there was
a guy Jeff Greb on it, and that was all right, boy,
I cannot guarantee the quality of Exploding Barrel, which the
people who don't know was me and my brother and
by AJ like this is like late aughts through the
twenty ten's doing a show with I don't know what microphones. Uh.
Speaker 3: There's a lot a lot of fun doing it and
it always tickles me. If people bring it up or
somethingple like I listened to that, I'm like, oh, that's neat,
that's hey, be curious, gonna listen to my thoughts on
BioShock two or something. I remember talking about FO Fantasy
thirteen as a new video game, right, things like that,
So that's wild.
Speaker 1: I remember we had our you had your friend, our
friend George from the The Squadron of Shame on to
talk about Alan Wake and just how much he loved
Alan Wake. And then years later I think I saw
him and I was like, man, you make get you
an Alan Wake one of your favorite games. He's like, well,
it's not.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, people say stuff a podcast, that's how
it comes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's true.
Speaker 3: You can probably hear me being like super excited minticizing
some game on that podcast that now like I don't
like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna happen to us over over again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I bet if you'll probably find the episode
weere like boss talk. If it came out, I probably
talked about like it's the greatest thing ever, right, like
yeah that's that that God, that's so true.
Speaker 2: Uh, Corey.
Speaker 3: Hope everything goes well with your treatment, good life, Yeah
for real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hang in there, man, I'm glad we could be
there for you.
Speaker 3: Yes, and asked everyone get your Kolonosky piece. I promise
it's kind of I've gotten ton. It's kind of fun,
all right, right, it's encouraging. Actually right, I'll do it. Yeah,
I think getting I think, yeah, getting the whole interestesion
everything and here at the place and they're nice to
you and then just kind of like, you know, it's funny.
I said, for a big this is good discourage people.
I think it's interesting. It's always like, oh, you're gonna
be put to sleep, and not put the sleep you
are taken offline exactly when that happened.
Speaker 1: It's a really it's like a weird thing. Nothing else.
It's wild that we are able to put people in
and out of that state. Yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, during my surgery last year, I remember like she
just the second they put this the syringe with the
sedative and yeah, she was a flash, like waking up.
Speaker 5: It was like it feels instantly like nothing happens.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 3: It's weird every time, almost like a sticker. You start
dozing and they're like you're counting. I'm like, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Try to stay.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: Next up is from The Gray Goblin. Starfuck's Rogue like
mode is something I need. Yeah, like even if like
that was a mode in this thing, I think that
that would help something like that. Again, we'll see, because
there's a challenge boat thing. The multiplayer seems expanded. I
bet there will be people and I don't necessarily disagree
with them, that are gonna be like, this isn't a
lot of content for a sixty dollars game in twenty
twenty six. Yep, Yeah, I mean we'll see when we
get there and there's Nintendo does do a lot of
post release DLC.
Speaker 1: They often hold stuff back. Maybe that's the mode that
would be great. They've done it in Donkey Kong. They
had a rogue likeg mode in there.
Speaker 3: Zombie Porn says, this is my yearly GBAT subscription ends
in December. How do I make it so? Mike is
in Donkey Kong how longer I might be playing it
during the Blake Club.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah.
Speaker 3: The idea is that I'm just going to kind of
appear my camera is just going to be the scene
of me doing the Donkey Kong stuff. You can still
watch me doing that during our usual shows. I believe
that's the idea. I mean, if you already have subscription,
will then'll be waste of gift subscriptions and things like that.
Maybe something else I can I think we're not like
talking about a whole lot, but like YouTube, right, so
things are happening there. So yeah, there will be ways
for you to support if you're already a GB Premium subscriber, and.
Speaker 2: Then we can just torture them again in December. Don't worry, don't.
Speaker 3: Worry about it. They'll think of new ways everybody. Uh,
all right, hail me says. I think they'll have a
four think they'll have a four player local free for
all game mode on one console for star Fockx used
to play that all the time with friends on the
N six four. Yeah, they showed the game shareness of it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, four players split screen.
Speaker 1: There was a time where it was like like during
the video where they had like it was split into
threes the thirds and everyone was flying around. I'm like, Oh,
are they showing like a co op mode or something
like that? And I'm like no, I think they were
just showing different perspectives but on different systems, And so
I was like, Okay, so they specifically did not show
stuff happening on one console.
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I don't know if they'll have
split screen. I feel like they were.
Speaker 3: Said so Armie almost expects no yeah uh. And then
Jada Camp says Maria sixty four is the greatest three
star game dirigible. That's bait, not going for that. Yeah, yeah,
thinky thinky. Daddy says recently watched your Mina the Hollow
or gameplay video this channel from Debruary eighteen, twenty twenty two.
I helped four more years let them Cook like Folks song. Yeah,
this has been a decent wild coming. Not quite a
Silk Song situation, but we've been away for this.
Speaker 1: I am. I am.
Speaker 3: I am pretty excited. I adore Shovel Night. The idea
of doing a kind of lead to the Past style
game from that team just seems like a home run
to me. I liked the look of it, like the
kind of spooky, fun, spooky vibe.
Speaker 1: No, I'm very excited for me at the hollower. Yeah,
that that last demo really won me over where I
was like, oh, they have brought all these pieces together,
and then the fact that they took a bunch of
extra time after that, it's like, Okay, they must have
really wanted to polish this thing. So I have high hopes.
Speaker 2: And there you go. We're caught up. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody.
Speaker 2: That was a lot.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thank you so much. But hey, you
don't have to stop now if you want to send
in more super chats. We'll get to the rest of
them before we're done here. But thank you once again
to everyone who did send one in. We appreciate it.
All Right, let's see here, let's take that break, we'll
come back and we'll do our topic this week, which
as a reminder, is the uh mount rushmore of dog
fighting games. We're gonna Mike set or do the anthropomorphic stuff.
I did say we were gonna do that, then we shifted.
Mike is just obsessed with this idea. He just like
we got it. We've got to get more. For a
reason not Rushmore. No, we should do it eventually. Yeah,
that's not bad. Everyone, We'll be right back. Everyone.
Speaker 2: All right, we're back, Mike, yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What what's what's the game mess Game of the Year
for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't. We can only do it when we're
in person. Something we did recently and then didn't do this.
Speaker 2: God what not were there? I think Prince?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, no other game came out Blueprints Game of
the Yeah, I mean a lot, you know, I know
a lot.
Speaker 3: You know, Clay up scare, but you know, you were
quite as hot on that as as some people. I like,
like I did like it, Yeah, but I like it.
I like think Blueprints is the game mess game of
the year.
Speaker 1: Is fun like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Congratulations to Blueprints. Yeah, congratulations to all of you
for holding your breath until we announced what Game of
the Year twenty twenty five was.
Speaker 4: And the producers from the game ass LTV or to
fuck the name of this company is clear obscure.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 2: Split vote.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see here we are going to do
the Mount Rushmore of dog fighting games. Mike, you have
a definition for that that you want to like float
to people.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I should be a game mostly
about being in some kind of space or aircraft, largely
based around fighting other space or aircraft.
Speaker 1: Yes, so, I mean, obviously we're bringing this up because
star Fox and star Fox is a multiplayer mode and
for star Fox sixty four was just a straight up
like dog fighting mode too.
Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of the all range mode because you're
doing the on roll shooter. I want to call that
dog fighting. I wouldn't all range stuff. And you have
those levels where you know star Wolf shows up that
that is dog fighting straight up there for sure.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely all right, So do you want to throw
out a first recommendation for the mount rushmore.
Speaker 2: Star Fox sixty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is that is the representative from star Fox
that I would do specifically because that all range mode
is such a big part of that one. So there
are these moments where you know, that's why you have
things like that, you turn the barrel rolls, they all
really help with the dog fighting. Lets you get behind
somebody who was behind you. I actually had a lot
of fun playing that multiplayer mode split screen back in
the day too.
Speaker 1: Me too much. Dog fighting absolutely all right, So yeah,
Star Fox sixty four is like the easy first one here.
I'm like trying to make sure that I there's some
other obvious ones, but I'm like, I want to see
if there's Yeah, I'll just go with the obvious ones.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I really like ace Combat seven. You think that qualifies
as dog fighting? I think it does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure, absolutely tons of that. There's
you know, more going on, for sure, but tons of
dog fighting.
Speaker 1: Right, all right, ace Combat seven. Look, there's a lot
of great ace Combat games. I think that ace Combat
four was fantastic, but I'm putting ace Combat.
Speaker 2: Seven on here because it just it's so good, so awesome.
Speaker 1: It's it's somehow still like underappreciated as a series, and
that game is like I think a lot of people
are like, yeah, it's another ace Combat.
Speaker 2: I don't need to play it, it's you kind of do.
Speaker 1: It's like they just figure out every way to make
that game cool and and then it feels fun to play,
like ace Combat always did.
Speaker 5: Got to experience this strench real.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm getting this ready so we can show
people up on the screen.
Speaker 2: But all right, Mike, what else you got?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: I definitely it was Star Wars. I think both of
me and you are going to go Rogue Leader. I
know there's a lot of x Wing fans out there
and I just haven't really gotten to experience those games
yet myself, and you know, he did maybe do both
of them, but I think must be a great Those
are both excellent games, and I just have an affinity
for Roguetar is slightly more arcadie approach to dog fights
to post at more sim focused stuff you have going
on with x Wing. Just played through Rogue Leader again recently,
and it is still so fun. That radar system is
actually really good to help you track down the the
x Wings. I think about their little formations. It's so
satisfying to kind of pick them off one by one.
Awesome levels maps. You have your own Squadron as well.
You can order around a little bit. Lots of good
Star Wars games I liked. I liked Squadrons recently as well.
That was really good too. So yeah, plenty of Star
Wars games go in this direction, but Rogue Leader would
be my pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I think Squadrons was surprisingly good. It is
kind of up there, although I would definitely go with
Rogue Leader. All right, Look, I played a bit of this,
not a ton, but this is maybe more even more
a U game, a Crimson.
Speaker 3: Skies, Yeah, specifically high Road to Revenge, Yes, because there
is a crisis guy in for PC that's actually a
little bit different a bit again, maybe a little bit
more semi Crimson Sky's high Road to Revenge pretty much
a Rogue Leader like. Difference here is that the setting
is this kind of alternative history, you know, early twentieth
century vibe. So you have like World War two, World
War One style fighter planes, a bit more of an
open world design where you're kind of flying around, you
land somewhere, and you sort of start missions, can change
your planes.
Speaker 1: This game is fantastic.
Speaker 3: The vibes are really cool, looks awesome, gameplay, feilds fantastic. Again,
very pretty kind of similar to what you would get
in A Rogue Leader. I do bring this one up
all the time as a kind of underappreciated game, and
there's a big reason for it.
Speaker 1: I think it just absolutely rules.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dogfighting is it's great, and you have a
lot of different plays again, and they have different sub weapons,
they and different attributes. They all feel a bit different
and Uh, there's just so much personality in this one.
Speaker 2: Yep, do you have any more?
Speaker 3: But I mean I was ready for I was ready
with that one, and then you took it. I think
maybe at this point, if we if we went through
the community, we can maybe see what.
Speaker 1: They have for this.
Speaker 2: Then I got a couple more.
Speaker 3: Okay, then there's a few more we can throw on.
I will look at chat everybody here.
Speaker 1: If that's Tom Clancy's Hawks. I actually thought that one
was pretty good. Yeah, I'll throwing it up there. Tom
Clancy's Hawks was a surprisingly good dog fighting game. Uh
was x isn't it? It's like super duper ass Xbox
three sixty game, like one of the most Xbox three
sixty games. But that's mostly too to its benefit, and
then it has it's It was in the era where
Tom Clancy just meant there's some military ship and then
going to just go off the wall with all the
sci fi aspects of it. But they made it just
a fun arcadie experience that I thought stood nicely next
to as Combat and then did a few things just
a little bit not better but different. Uh anything else
from you wink.
Speaker 3: Commander Commands actually a huge game at the time.
Speaker 1: There are tons of sequels.
Speaker 3: We Commander three, I think Joe considered the best one,
but in Mount Ushworth Sending, I think the first one.
The importance of that is a really really big deal,
you know, And and I know a lot of people
want to still still include Tie Fighter possibly. Yeah, it's
largely you know, a sequel to x Wing, which was
kind of them being like, hey, we should make week Commander.
Speaker 1: But with Star Wars, I mean, is anyone saying an
x Wing alliance even because I know some people think
that's even better than Tie Fighter.
Speaker 3: No, I think it's it's Tie Fighter is the one
coming up?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Then? You know dog fighting without like a World War
II one. But the only World War Two one I played,
and I think it's pret pretty good is Secret Weapons
over Normandy, Right, Lucas Arts Jam another Lucas Arts game.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not gonna you have throw it on there.
I don't think it's gonna make it. No, it's not,
but it's I.
Speaker 1: Just want to include some World War Two on here,
because it's like, that's what that is, Like the term
dog fighting. The first thing that pops in my head
is World War two planes. But yeah, and I've not
played like, uh, I don't know Stmina cough or whatever
those games are. I never touched those. Uh you uh
you a star Hawk?
Speaker 2: A Warhawk guy? I do like Warhawk. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I never played much star Hawk, but I liked Warhawk
for sure?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: God? Do they have like multiplayer dog fighting in it?
Like like star Fox? Did star I remember one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of the start I mean one of them
was like all multiplayer base That was star Hawk for sure?
Speaker 1: Right? Was star Hawk?
Speaker 2: You know what? Was there a Warhawk game on PS
three that also had that? Maybe that is true?
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of that was that was the game they
showed off the six axis with, remember, and that that's
the sixty three thing I believe?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, alright to put Warhawk on here? Hell yeah,
m all right?
Speaker 2: Anything else from the chat? Uh? Did you ever play
any of the Elite PC games? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Elite Dangerous is good? Yeah? Or just Elite Team, right,
which is like, yeah, I played a Lead Dangerous. I
never played Elite, but Lead Dangerous Action. It was a
really cool time to just be like being a cockpit
and fly around and getting some dog fights, h for sure?
All right?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah then matt Rare Monkey with the super chat.
Speaker 1: I l t.
Speaker 2: Sturmovic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Stermovic, the true dog fighting game. I need to
play those, right. That's so we're missing out, like on
some true history here. That's a World War two games. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've seen some people bring up Snoopy Flying Ace.
Speaker 1: I know people do like that game. I never played it, Mike,
I don't think I know much. I can't tell if
it's a joke or not.
Speaker 2: You're not cozy games. I don't know they're cozy to me.
Speaker 3: Oh it says Mount rushworre cozy games up there. I see, Oh,
I got I can fix that, my bad. I just
copied the paste Mount Rushmore. I also saw Jason and
Ice screaming they're not codes of games. I would be like, yeah, obviously,
I guess.
Speaker 2: It's not that obvious to me.
Speaker 1: All right. For audio listeners, here's our list so far.
Star Fox sixty four, Ace Combat seven, Star Wars, Rogue
Squadron two, Rogue Leader, Crimson Skies, High Road to Revenge,
Tom Clancy's Hawk's Wing Commander, Star Wars, Tie Fighter, Secret
Weapons Over Normandy Warhawk and Elite Dangerous anything else. I
think we can work with this.
Speaker 2: I think we can work with this as well.
Speaker 1: And I think it's probably those first four games we mentioned.
But is there anything else you want to you would
want to swap in there, anything that the chat's convincing
you to do.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you gotta I think you gotta
put win commander in there to be on.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, I like it.
Speaker 1: I think it's gotta go win again.
Speaker 2: That gay was really poet?
Speaker 1: Does that replace ace combat or no? It replaces Crimson Skies? Right, wow,
let me see this, okay?
Speaker 3: Is it really the og fighting that we love in
Star Fox sixty four so much?
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Look, I did enjoy it in Star Fox sixty four
in the multiplayer, but it's not it's not the thing.
Speaker 2: It's not the thing that makes that game. So okay,
it's not the thing.
Speaker 3: Look, let's just say I'll say let's put let's put
Wing command over right now.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's do this wing commander up here?
All right, there's Wing commander.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one I think has got to be over.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: Are you are you are you afraid of the tie
fighter sikahs, Yes, of course I am.
Speaker 1: I've always been afraid of them. I'm afraid, but I
don't think. I don't think we could do this list
without an ACE Combat game.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, they're gonna beat the shit on you
with their hotas.
Speaker 3: I think it's Combat seven goes in. I think it's
Combat seven goes in. And I think obviously one of
the Star Wars games go in. I don't think we're
filling this list with the two Star Wars games.
Speaker 2: Right and okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then okay, well we can have that conversation
and then what else? Then what's the fourth game? If
it's for just doing one Star Wars game? Is it
Crimson Skiescripson Skies, Baby, Yeah, I think so too. Give
me that Crimson Skies. Give me that. Crimson sky is
so freaking cool. I'm look, I'm okay with with Tie
Fighter going on there. I have always wanted to get
into those games more and I just have failed myself
as a Star Wars fan.
Speaker 3: Dat give me just a not an actual vote, tell
me right now, chat which one you want?
Speaker 1: Rugu leader?
Speaker 5: Or this is a fucking democracy. What's going on?
Speaker 1: It's not binding?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious now, you know, Tie Fighters it's a
bit of a blind Spot for me, I'm embarrassed about it.
To be honest, I I do want to play that game.
I just couldn't get my hands on throttle and or stick.
I just couldn't do it. It's kind of a thing
where at the time ms similar and that's a lot
of time fighters, well, tie Fighters, similar to Win Commander,
but rugg Leaders pretty similar to Crimson Skis. Actually, yes, yeah,
it turns out so the both of these are kind
of they have some Man, it's really close, Jeff, I
think we could just go with ours.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not We're not cowards, though we could call
it a tie, but we're on cowards.
Speaker 1: Like we are not. We they're the whole reason of
the Mount Rushmore is to pick four. Here we are
with four, all right, Mount Rushmore of dog fighting games,
Wing Commander, Ace Combat seven, Crimson Skies, High Road to Revenge,
and Star Wars, Rogue Squadron two, Rogue Leader.
Speaker 3: Let the record show that there was a Nintendo game
as a very possible candid for this, and we did.
Speaker 1: Not pick it. Yeah, we just picked one of the
games that's on Nintendo and maybe published by Nintendo in
some places.
Speaker 2: All Right, there we go. Well done, everybody.
Speaker 1: I'll get that posted on social media so you can
yell at us directly. Let's take another break, we'll come back,
talk about what we've been playing, talk about some super chats,
and then we'll get on out of here.
Speaker 2: We're back, all right, Mike, What have you been playing?
Speaker 3: What have I been playing? Oh my god, what a question.
Speaker 2: I didn't think I would be.
Speaker 1: Right. I didn't think.
Speaker 3: Actually, yes, I haven't playing Fa fancy fourteen again. That's good,
that's right. I'm trying to catch up on that. The
main scenario quest line from Dontrell making some good froggies
and that I definitely having fun with it, especially as
it kind of moved along from the first half, which
is very much this kind of there's a cat lady
and she wants to become in charge of her country,
and you're helping her with the contest, and it's you know,
you kind of go to a place.
Speaker 5: Very peaceful, let's make peace.
Speaker 2: It's a little even for me, it was.
Speaker 3: It was sometimes a bit like the power of friendship
will solve all of our problems and ten minutes kind
of a thing. Yeah, exactly right. But you know, there's
still like fun encounters. The locations look gorgeous, but we
have not moved on to that. Like this game takes
place the whole ideas you're going over to the New World, right,
so the Americas and now I'm sort of in this
game's equivalent of Mexico, and it's a really cool looking area.
It's kind of has a bit of an Old West
vibe to it too. There's like been like saloons and
railroad tracks things like that. So having fun and it's
just as good playing fomb basally fourteen again after taking
a pretty long break, just sliding right back into my
Red Mage rotations relatively easily doing dungeons now and then
either for the quest or just for fun because I
enjoy them so much. But yeah, yeah, so it's just
the thing I've been knocking out here and there. Although
like as soon as I can getting back into this,
it's like, oh boy, there's a lot of games coming out,
you know. We we have for the Forts of Horizon
six code, so playing that some other games here, like
Mixtape is out and we did like Astra codes and
now I have a code for Mixtape, so I feel
like I should check that thing out. If it's getting
reviews like this. You know, the Hollower is coming up soon.
I think Bobs four D four D is gonna be seen.
I'm playing, so yeah, all sorts of exciting developments happening.
But yeah, and the meantime that I've been like working
through Dragon Quest two still the eh G two D
version of that, you know, things like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I've been playing that mixtape. I started it
this evening just to like get started to get a
put a D dent into it. Kind of played a
lot of what I played at Summer Game Fest last year,
and I like kept playing and I'm into it now.
I like, I think that there is like a chance
that this will be like a game that repulses anyone
who was too cool for these kinds of people back then.
Speaker 2: If you were too cool.
Speaker 1: For the person that was like super into their music
and kind of like maybe hanging out with the cool
people but secretly actually a nerd, you're going to be
too cool for this game as well. And the conversations
they have, the emotional beats that they have are probably
gonna make you roll your eyes and dip out. If
it was a co ed friend group in high school,
I think they were too cool for me.
Speaker 3: I want to be clear, yes, right.
Speaker 1: So I think that you like right, So I think
most people are going to come to this gameize and
recognize that, like, hey, this was like the very human,
very relatable. These conversations are may maybe that's not how
I would have talked necessarily, but they are recognizable as
the conversations that young people have. I think the way
that the game presents itself, which is these vignettes and
the addressing the camera and then like when they're talking
about something like oh, we're going to explain the CD
and we're going to cut to archival footage to show
that off. Or then when they're in the car, the
car is not really moving. It's on a sound stage
and there's it's there's back projection rear projection behind it
of moving traffic, and that's actual just footage of moving traffic.
It all feels like artifice and like things being faked
in a way like a Wes Anderson movie is.
Speaker 2: But it almost works better here because it's a video game.
Speaker 1: Video games are all just fake stuff put together to
make something happen, and this game leans into that very hard,
and then it has a pretty good pace where you're
in these vignettes like the skateboarding or the shopping cart thing,
or running through the woods and flying in the wind
like you're like you're playing flour or whatever. You're in
these four five minutes, ten minutes maybe max and it.
You know, like these are all like cutaways from the
main story of this friend group trying to have their
one last rager before they are probably gonna be split
up forever because they're moving on with their lives, and
so you're cutting back and forth between these vignettes, which
often tell a historical event in their lives, like here's
something that we did together, or here's how our relationship grew.
And then we come back and the main story continues,
and then we get a little break from that to
tell more about the backstory. You learn more about these characters.
I think it's just all very well done. It's it's
different than a lot of stuff that's out there. And
and at the same time, I think there is like
a genre of indie game that is like, hey, we
are about using vibes and using like gameplay, small gameplay
mechanics to get a feeling across, but this one is
kind of maybe doing it in the biggest way yet
and maybe the most impressive way yet.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's I don't think it's gonna be for everybody.
Speaker 1: But if you are someone who's kind of maybe nerdy
in school, like I was, I think you're gonna be like, yes,
I recognize these people, and I can kind of forgive
their nerdiness because again I recognize it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to check it out. That's for It's fine,
I do.
Speaker 1: I am laughing.
Speaker 3: It's like I've always had the opposite problem, like I
think these people are gonna be too cool for me
to relate to. Think it's like I don't gosh, even
super bad. I mean's like these people are trying to
get alcohol right, Like they're conveyed as like big nerds.
I was like, I don't even thought about going to
some kind of party with Oh it's I it's like
super perhaps what my high school experience. So that's my problems,
Like when you hung out at RB's, everybody RB's or
my house.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think of like any sort of like
person that's experienced like time moving on. Uh, so everybody
can relate to that side of it. But yeah, the
characters themselves. I think you'll kind of have a a
little bit of a hit and miss depending on who
you are. But you know, I think that Mike, once
you try it, it's like that won't be an issue
for you. Again, I think it's for the people who
think they were too cool for these people back then.
They're still gonna think they're too cool for this game
for sure. And then, oh god, what else have been
I've been playing?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we could talk.
Speaker 1: I can't talk about forts. Uh. I did Beat Sorrows,
but I talked about that and a bunch of other places.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: So it's like a bunch of other games that are
coming up soon that I can't talk about yet. So yeah,
I'm glad I played a little bit of Mixtape so
I could have that conversation. But yeah, it's it's busy.
I'm not sure I'm going to triage all this. It's
a I want to play mixtape because everyone's talking about it.
But even that's, like, you know, I got other games
I got to play for review here soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great way for me to be about
do nothing but play Donkey Con sixty four.
Speaker 1: Hu, we could have time that better uh huh, yeah,
all right, I'm.
Speaker 5: Playing that in Benciville.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, please.
Speaker 5: Fighting game. It's pretty good. It's fun.
Speaker 4: It is a very very approachable, very like well, all
these new fighting games are very approachable. I don't think
it's a selling point anymore. Like every fighting game that
comes out nowadays has like some type of easy combo easy,
like Super one one Button Special, and this one has
all of that.
Speaker 1: So three five.
Speaker 4: I'm not a huge fan of the show. I tried
to watch it, but it's just I can't.
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just it's yeah, it takes it.
It takes a little while to like I heard, it
takes a little while to get going. But like, I'm
gonna give it a try to the show. He goes,
I'm enjoying the game, and I like the characters. They
seem they seem fun. But yeah, it's just just another
good fighting game that I don't know what the fight
is gonna happen with fighting games. He goes, you don't
know if you know it's gonna yeah for people.
Speaker 1: I guess. I was curious.
Speaker 3: It seems like people are picking up steam. It seems
like after that rough start with something about PREMI editions.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's like, got mostly positive views now, it already has
more user reviews than Fatal Fury ever, got right, Maybe
it comes from from the I P.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: It seems like it's not a disastrous start at least
now after the initial disastrous start.
Speaker 4: Yeah it is. It is, you know, from the k
I people, and you can tell the hussle.
Speaker 1: Though, Oh you can definitely. You could definitely tell you all.
Speaker 4: Those defensive stuff that you can find in k I
with the combo breakers and the stuff. They don't call
it combo breakers, but there are the guys sounds like
the the KI guy. So it is it is that
DNA there. So yeah, it's fun recommended. I don't know
if people's gonna play.
Speaker 2: I mean I enjoyed what I played of it.
Speaker 1: I would probably play some more, especially if they dropped
like new characters. I would check back in on it,
because again, I really like those books, and the show's
close enough that it's like playing the game. It's just
like playing something out of the book. Okay, let's see,
let's do the super chats, Mike, anything to clean up
over there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a few more of those come in.
Uh Tuber said, oh my god. When Mike said dog
Fighting game, I was worried his grandpa was back. Anyway,
my pick is Pokemon exactly what we bet.
Speaker 1: They're Ricky Fresh on a Blue Sky said Jerry Rice,
and nitases dog football. Yeah wow, and that's a weird
that's a weird fucking video game.
Speaker 3: Jacob Grey says Pop Tokyo Jungle best talk faking right, yeah,
oh god. Zombie Porn says this is a mad in
two thousand and four joking, bad taste.
Speaker 1: I'll allow it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get it.
Speaker 3: He Michael Vick jokes, and sure everybody you're on Mexico's Yeah,
Matt raremuky with that World War two fighting game al too,
Stormovic that you brought up earlier. Big freshrat Ser says,
I don't mind star Fock's being fifty dollars as long
as I can pay in half cash half stock.
Speaker 1: Oh man, listen, make that joke to us. Don't make
it to those poor game stop associates. But I like
that a lot.
Speaker 3: Brock dest sponsor says, y'all still going to do Evangelion
because I here for it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to he is yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm you know, I'm worried about this Donkey
Kong thing, and then I'm worried about SGF before that,
and so so I don't know if this is some
imminent thing, but eventually I want to do that.
Speaker 4: It's sound amazing minutes SIPI sood you're gonna watch it
on your phone?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but then I'm gonna baby do a
show about it. Take time, all right.
Speaker 4: I completely forgot about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then Jedi Mass says, I like the grittier
art style of new Star Fox. That's it's really going
for the blend of Star Wars and Top Gun.
Speaker 1: That was implying.
Speaker 3: Well, that was one part in that direct where there's
just a starfield and they just to me, it's not
that they just played the thing from Star Wars where
it's like I h that it like pans down and
you see the r wings or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, just the Star Wars.
Speaker 3: Did you do that?
Speaker 2: Now? It's like I was.
Speaker 1: I had the same thought. And then I was like
trying to find some Starfocks music when I was doing
that short, and I was like with some older Star
Fox music, like oh this, this is what they were playing.
So but it's like they were just doing the same
thing back then, of course, so of course, yeah, I
do agree with this that it's like they seem to
be going for Star Fucks or Star Wars mixed with
top Gun, and they're pulling that off. At the very least,
James James McLeod looked awesome. No one's complaining about the
way he looked. Mmmmmmm. Oh.
Speaker 3: There's a comment on the Bruckness one. It just says
at Mikey, how good. I don't know what that's for,
and I think we are caught up now then.
Speaker 2: How about all right, good job, good work, everybody.
Speaker 5: Says, four weeks until summer, game fast.
Speaker 1: All right, time to get to work. All right, well
then we better get to work. I think that's Do
we do anything else on the show?
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: I can hit out, we're done now, we're free, all right,
well done, everybody?
Speaker 1: All right, let me turn that up real quick so
you guys can actually hear it, and then say thanks
for listening, everybody, thanks for tuning in, thanks for watching.
If you're watching here on YouTube, we'll be back with
another episode of this next week. Well, last, and then
ten Dogs on Tuesday of next week. Looking forward to
catching back up with all of you. Then, Mike, what
do you want to tell people about if you miss it?
Speaker 3: There's a new episode of nineties Disney out about Star
to Wars, the famous Star Wars ride.
Speaker 1: You can't check that out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So next week, everybody, the Donkey Kong Sy four
marathon stream John Bomb is gonna be happening. We're gonna
have fun tomorrow as well. We have ups, but it's
not our game mess mornings this time. Jeff will probably
be there. I don't think I can take us power
out twice, so it'll be safe this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, you could just help
Steph poison me a little bit more. See how now
I'm making the job. We're not talking about that anymore, Jeff, Look,
good luck. Look man, it was that was I was
nice when you just like took that over, no problem,
good job this morning. I appreciate that. Mike.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, sure thing got it. I mean it
was a fun episode because there's all the star Fox
you know, let's.
Speaker 1: Go absolutely Sae. I'm glad we were able to make
that happen because, yeah, I didn't want to miss such
a cool episode where we could have talked where we
can talk about such big news.
Speaker 2: So we got that up on the feeds. We'll be
back with the Game Mess.
Speaker 1: Mornings tomorrow over on Giant Bomb. Everybody, uh, And then yeah,
one last time, we just say thanks to everybody who
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I keep saying I'm gonna do a Q and A,
and then I keep getting busy with a million other things.
This past weekend it was my laundry room, which is
not gonna be done this week You neither, But I
gotta find time to do this.
Speaker 2: So yeah, let's get a Q and A going.
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you guys about that here real soon.
And then yeah, man, what are you gonna be playing
this weekend? Mike?
Speaker 2: What's what's the thing that you're most.
Speaker 1: Gonna be me?
Speaker 3: Honestly, probably I'm probably Gonnam outports on some of this,
some of these other things.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean he's a fantasy fourteen. But yeah,
I'm gonna I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna play tex Mextrical Challenge set up my at sixty
four thing there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's gotta. I think it's got good to good.
Speaker 1: Two D visuals in there.
Speaker 2: I think if the Capcom made Disney.
Speaker 1: Based Tetris game, yes, very cool.
Speaker 2: All right, everybody catch you next time.
Speaker 5: They'll get lost check.
Speaker 2: Oh but how GoF to Crystal
Speaker 3: Ye