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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the wonder Man

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Review slash Spoilers Discussion. I am your host, the Implied

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Tras Snell. I'm joined by nobody. As we've talked about,

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it is a weird It's definitely a weird week here

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geek for scheduling wise people with life, wise people getting sick.

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already out because Kriclam Tabors was recording something Criclinan was

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feeling uder the weather. It's it's a weird week. The

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trast told you recorded I got a Monday and Tuesday.

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It's it's an odd time here. But I will say

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this is the content you're getting this week. You got

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the Seven Kingdoms and the Gimmick on Saturday and Sunday.

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the so hang on, I got yeah, I got the

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four There, you got the Xbox Direct and the side

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Quest and now Wonderman Review. So that is seven seven

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there's more episodes. Oh and then sorry Sunday or sorry Saturday.

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the Royal Rumble. That's eight eight podcasts for one week.

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That's just on the main feed. There is the Marvel

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Draft that's on Patreon early. There's the MCU Golden Geeks.

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If people I guess because there's wonder man, I've paced

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anyone's new checking these out. You should check out those

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episodes because the Marvel Draft is where we draft ten

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characters for the whole year, and it's like a fantasy

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football draft. And then the MCU Golden Geeks is like

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our Oscars but for the MCU last year and talk

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about what the best of the best is. So you

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got those early on Patreon. You're gonna be getting originals

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this week. You're gonna begin I t told you exclusive

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about the box office this year in my predictions, You're

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gonna get a bread and butter from Kirkland. That's like,

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what is that? Over ten casts? I'm saying we're doing

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it better than one. Anybody that's knocking like that not

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their full time job. We're doing better than them. And

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I think we're doing it better than like some people. Again,

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especially you know, like so I hey, there's some podcasts

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I think we're anything, but we're showing we've tried not

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we hope you're enjoying all the content. A big show

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or doing. And then three you get all forty six,

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enjoy all that. And yeah, it's your first time listening.

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but like I said, because schedules and sick. At one

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because Emily and the girls they went to a hot

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game because Loan goes to Girl Guys and they got

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that with Ironheart and other stuff, but it was always

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a couple of weeks after the fact, right, So that's

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something so I feel's see some people in the chat.

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So if you guys have any question about wonder Man,

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about ten fifteen minutes, maybe some minor spoils, but nothing

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you haven't seen in a trailer. Uh. And then I

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will go into spoilers. And there's not too much to

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break down as far as the spoilers, to be honest,

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it's an interesting show, an interest time, right, let me

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get this going here Late Night Live, the good old days.

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It's like the old traps told you right. But yeah,

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so wonder Man. My excitement for this has been I

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don't know, like I've honestly forgot about it many times,

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forgot about it multiple times as it's leading up. I

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was always a fan of the idea because a ya

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kind of felt like Echo or Iron Hardware. Feels like

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they just want a bunch of content on Disney Plus, right,

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which made sense with Disney Plus launching, and Covid happened

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the one to do a bunch of that. There. That's

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non sports, I did enjoy this show. The positives what

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since Auckaman two, he's just so damn good. There's just

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little things like in my nickname the applied, it's a

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and how like he sees something that no one else sees.

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the script It says this, and like I don't think

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it does and he said, well, I think it's implied.

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line deliveries, which is funny because like the Simon Williams

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characters about should I pronounce it this way or say

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it like that? Like there's some fun kind of in

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chronicity is there between the two characters. And I think

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just by itself. I enjoyed Wonder Man. It was a

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there's lots of people that aren't. Obviously he was in

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to fifteen and sung she But I still like Ben Kingsley, right,

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some point. Is his agent? I don't know. I guess

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that never happened, right, But that them as a duo

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in Hollywood. But I feel like there's something where at

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studio sense, the studio breaks down, like goes deep into Hollywood,

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about or talk about. Right where I feel like the

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stuff that's talked about in the show that's Hollywood is

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very like ga stuff people that have no idea really

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anything how Hollywood works, right, like, what's a call back?

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and that's fine, right, But I think it wasn't like

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a situation where I saw this and went, oh, they

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really did do the studio at like kind of a

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studio s show and the studio beat them too. It

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that sucks. It's kind of a bigger impact. I don't

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since there's some fun stuff, don't move me wrong. This

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is a fun, enjoyable show. This is a show that

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could watch it again in the future. I would love

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more of these characters. But at the same point I

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a dividing point with this show, and it's more so

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there's nothing. That's where it's tough because if I think

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the world where people are maybe expecting crossover or the connections,

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there really is none of that. There is some callbacks

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about which is very fun, but it's nothing. It's not

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earth shattering, it's not like it's not connecting to a

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that's why for me, if the three things, I'd recommend

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there is you know, obviously Trevis Slattery's from it, and

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then Simon Williams is a character Wonderman. Like, there is

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some fun stuff, and I think the show overall is

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good if you like yeah, yeah, I think it's good there.

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where we're just looking at a small character inside the

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Marvel universe, but it is very much off to the corner.

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We really have nothing to do with anything. You could

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put this in multiple timelines pretty much maybe until after

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and that's where it's like, I do enjoy it, and

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to be honest, but that to me was the core

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of the show that I thought they had really good

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chemistry and it was such a fun buddy dynamic that

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there's no lead up to doomsday, there's no like leading

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to the next show or movie. It's just a another

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character with superpowers in the world. It's not even like

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Daredevil or Jessica Jones where it's like, oh, they're alluding

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to the incident or they talk about thwart the ham.

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It's it's not even that, you know, like you see

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pictures of like other hero Sure, but it feels very

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much by itself, so which I think is like a

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from from me. I don't care because like, as long

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as the show's good, that's fine. If it's a show

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that's bad and has no connections. Then that's that's me

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the ultimate worst thing because it's like, now, I really

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watch this for nothing, right, but I enjoyed the show,

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So as I said before, those are the people I'd

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recommend it to. As far as for the future, this

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is stuff that I'm like not trying to sound I

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think this like denigrates the show show more than I

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want it to. But I don't think the MCU can

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make this type of content going forward. For the TV

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shows of the movies, I don't think they can make

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the oh well, this is kind of in the MCU,

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but really have nothing. I think there's so many people

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that want a story, or want those connections, or want

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everything to line up. This doesn't do that. And maybe

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you could do this with like an established character of

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let's say they went okay, even Vision right, Vision was

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in a successful show in Vendors movies. Let's say Vision.

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Quest doesn't tie up with anything, right, it's just a

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Vision story. I think that you could get away with

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more because it is a bigger character, not one of

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the atier characters, but still a bigger character that's like, Okay,

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I'm gonna watch what Vision does because I really enjoy

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this character. I think to me, if you're not really

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connected to the MCU and you're not a character that's established,

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that's a really tough sell for people, especially nowadays, when

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one not everyone just jumps on anything Colm book wise,

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you know. And two we've talked about some many times.

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Stress told you there's so much content out there now

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it's like, and that's the thing where for me, and

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I'll give this score because of people, I know, this

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just drops lots of people won't be getting the end

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of or maybe they'll never will. For me, this is

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a seven, So I enjoyed it. I also didn't think

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it had like a big like a big moment I'm

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gonna remember, I think from the trailers and honestly from

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episode two, I think most people that consume a good

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amount of movie and TV shows maybe even not could

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you can tell this is gonna go, you know some

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of the trailers. But like it's it's pretty formulating that way.

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I think there's a couple of things that aren't. I

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think there's some fun instances. Like I said, I think

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episode four is a little bit different, but I'd say

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where the main characters go, it's just you know, where

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the story's going right, so there's no big surprises. I

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think yah yah and Ben Kingsley is great, but they

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also don't have like an amazing like we talked about

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on the Golden Geeks where it's like, oh, that seem

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I got issues with boring again. That scene with Matt

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and Punisher coming face to face reuniting, that's like an

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all timer Marvel scene, right, I don't care Movie TV like,

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that's up there. I don't know where, but it's up there.

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That doesn't have this if you like superhero stuff for

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the fighting. So even if you're like, oh, hey, that's

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fine if it's in the Marvel universe in a pocket

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by itself, I want to see the actions like there

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is I think two action scenes, and that's like stretching it.

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The scenes are very brief and they're not like they're

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not anything incredible, and that's fine because that wouldn't fit

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the tone of the show. The show is more of

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a dramedy. It's more of an actor in Hollywood trying

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to make it and he has a secret. Right, it's

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not about the fight scenes. They put him in some situations,

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but it's not like with She Hulk, where it's like, okay,

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we got to do the origin, we got to sit

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up as a lawyer and Bruce's cousin. But eventually we're

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gonna see her fight, right, which we did. This isn't

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that you're never getting to that point, So I guess

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that could be a bigger spoiler, but I think that's

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for some of that's on the fence. Go okay. So

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there's not like a big scene that I'm connected with.

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There's not like a big action set piece. There's not

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a big twist. And I said, the story overall is

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somewhat formulaic, even though it's not formula for the MC

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because we've seen from an actress perspective or hero doesn't

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want to change the world. So for me, what it

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is is, I do you know, it's former Lake, But

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I still like the stories of the characters. I like

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the performances and it specifically those two characters together. And

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then there is you know, some fun stuff. I don't

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think it was everly like Belly laughing, but got a

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couple of chuckles out of me. I enjoyed it. So

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I watched it all back to back. I enjoyed it.

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It was it was never like a slog these episodes

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are pretty sure. There's one episode that was like easily

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like with credit, like without credits and everything, when you

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skip the recap and then credits was probably about twenty minutes.

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It says it's like three and a half whatever, but

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I can't remember when I finished. I feel like it's

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even less than that if you skip the recap and

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you skip the credits. Like I said, there's no end

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credits scene as when really fitted and even then like

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when we get to the end of it, it's like, okay,

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like it it just like I don't know, it's just

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it's interesting where it's something that I enjoyed, but I

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will I could easily forget about a lot of this

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in the future. It's just the it's the performances. And

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that's one thing that I've talked about before. We all

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talked about where if you get great actors with mediocre

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material and raise it, and I think, yah yah, Ben

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Kingsley do that, you know when they're talking about you know,

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the comparisons to you. I don't think it's that level

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of creativity or as far as that level of humor either.

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It never hits those strides for me, But there are

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some fun moments so yeah, that's where I am. A seven,

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not though definitely not the worst in the m stud

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It's like a very much like i'd say mid tier, bottom,

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mid tier somewhere there. And I guess that sounds bad

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because now there's a lot of those I always kind

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of forget because before bottom mid tier and Marvel is

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still very good right when they had a great track record.

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Now there's a lot of stinkers there, so I'd have

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to say, like, let me look up here. I just

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want to quickly. I haven't ranked it yet on my

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letter box. I think it's up there, but let me

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go take a look at just to confirm where it

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is before we get into spoilers on myself. But yeah,

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I feel comfortable with seven to ten and I don't

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think that would change like I think with a rewatch.

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Maybe one day I will. I'm not in a rush,

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but I enjoyed enough that I would watch again if

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I want to see some with Yah yah Ben Kingsley,

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or if these characters come back, maybe to get excited,

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because it isn't easy watch, but like right now, so

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right now, I can't remember all the products and letter box,

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I have fifty four projects, but the problem is there's

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like probably someone the letter box. I can't rank writer

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multiple seasons. Let's see, because like that's the thing, Like,

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so it would be technically it's the same score as

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like Brave New World and the Marbles where there's stuff,

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or even like Age of Ultron, but even then like

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those still have like some great moments or something, right,

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but then there's some bigger misses in Brave New World

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or the Marvels. Right, so I feel like it is

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like so if I have fifty four, yeah, it probably

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is in the bottom ten, unfortunately for me with this list,

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So take what you will. I'd still say it's the

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positive because technically I've only failed four three things in

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the MCU. I failed Echo, I failed Amina, loass some

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Secret Invasion. So still a pretty good record for the MCU.

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So yeah, like bottom ten but still like a pass

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still not like C plus C whatnot. So let's see.

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Punisher says, I have a theory about wonder Man damage

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to Trouble will become or or just I don't know that.

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I don't know much about dam control. I didn't read

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much there. We'll talk about them in the sports. I

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think that stuff. I guess I can also say this

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non spois. I'll get his name because I feel bad.

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I feel like I have fucking zeroed this guy out

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since noway home. But let me see wonder Man. So

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they set up or what is it damage control or what? Yeah?

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I think it's damage control or I know that was

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the show, but whatever. Let me just take a look here.

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What is his name here? Uh? Aaron Mallard. I think,

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so this is the guy that's played this character a

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few times, right, he started knowing home and he's just

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like hunting back like powered individuals and whatnot. I've seen

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him in other things. I've enjoyed him in those things.

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I am not enjoying him in the MCU. I think

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also because people have this he plays Agent Cleary. I

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think as people have this theory, which I don't mind

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right talking to trust, so we were damaged Control would

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eventually become like a Friends of Humanity or something where

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it's hunting muons, right, because I think this character and

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the Damage Control or the DDC whatever they are like

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the rumors they are in Spiderman Brand New Day. And

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if Sadie sinc Is playing Gene Gray or another powered

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individual there after her, right, I think my problem with

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that is this character, Agent Cleary has played kind of

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like a buffoon, kind of goofy, you know, Inspierment, noy Home.

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He had some moment we got up on ned, but

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it kind of works there, right. I just thought, I

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think for those scenes with the mean kids, when they're

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done with adults stuff, I just really don't care. Okay,

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there you go the punches or just of the anti

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immune Organization help bent on destruction Munes and Living Island

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or crawl. Yeah, and I feel like I've heard that theory.

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I'm down with that theory. I think it makes sense.

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That's just my problem where I like this actor. I

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just watched Nobody Wants This like a couple of months ago.

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He was fun and that I enjoy him. I just

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don't enjoy him as Agent clear here because if that

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does go into the anti Mune thing, I don't want

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it to be kind of like a buffoon, jokey type

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of guy. Maybe even Oust and Mon you get someone

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that's very evil and very bad, but it just doesn't.

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It just feels very Barney Fify. It feels like you

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can easily outsmart these guys, and they do all the time,

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even this show, like Trevi Slattery outsmarts this guy multiple times.

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It's like, so what at some point I'm supposed to

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believe this guy's gonna be a threat to part like

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Charles Xavier make Needle, Like, I don't buy that, right,

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So I think there needs to be some change up

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with that. And again, anytime that character is on the screen,

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I go just takes up some time. So but there's

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not too many characters in the show. He's like maybe

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your fourth lead or something. Right, So yeah, like I

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said my recommendations, if you like yeah, yah, if you

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really like the MCU or at least if you like

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Marvels stuff, you want a good project, I don't think

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you need to be in a rush to see it. Though.

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Even in that, like, I'm not saying if people tell me,

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like I enjoy wonder Man, should I watch or say yeah?

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But just Vio mileage may vary for people. It's not

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one we saying, oh, you gotta go watch wonder Man, right,

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because I'm trying to think of the last series I

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would have done that for for Marvel, like even Agatha, right,

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Like Agatha for me had Peaks and Valley you know,

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start Strong had some middle. Eh, but though the penultimate

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and the finale, to me, that's something we're in a show,

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big thing that happens, multiply things. But you know everyone

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knows the twist, right that's seen it. That's where it's like,

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oh I will remember that for a very long time.

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Right where this doesn't have that. This is just like

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a good time with Yayam Ben Kingsley with some little

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you know, minor drama and like I said, fight scenes

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powers they are not in here, that is like they are,

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but they are under five minutes maybe all put together.

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If you do like a highlight reel, there's it's there's

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no moment where it's like, oh he gets as Sue

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the in and fights all the black guys know. That's

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not the resolution of this show. So yeah, it is

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an interesting one. So I'm going to take a break,

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take a trickle of water here. If anyone's not seen

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it or whatnot, now is the time to bounce out.

469
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,559
I don't think it's gonna be super long, uh because

470
00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:49,279
I said, I don't think there's too much to spoil,

471
00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:59,359
but uh yeah, so now's your time. We'll be right back. Okay,

472
00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:02,839
and we're back. So and what I mean by there's

473
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:08,680
not much to spoil where like it's not technically their fault,

474
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,480
but in a way where there's I think one of

475
00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:13,440
the first images was Yahya at the premiere wonder Man

476
00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:15,839
in the suit, right, So I'd say, up until about

477
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,319
episode seven, it's like, oh, is he gonna get the role?

478
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,839
And it's like, well, fuck we all And even then,

479
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,519
like the show is called Wonderman, right, so you assume

480
00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:25,519
he's gonna get it. It's like, of course he's gonna

481
00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:27,599
get the role, right. So that's like the biggest contention

482
00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:30,720
with ya Ya, like for just his goal, right. His

483
00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:32,640
other stuff is he is a secret, which will get

484
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,599
an Episoe four, which I really enjoy. But he's a secret.

485
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,920
He has superpowers and they don't want actors have superpowers,

486
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,880
which we'll get to, right, so he does have that.

487
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000
There's some you know, kind of allegories for you know,

488
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,440
sexual orientation stuff like that. I don't think they dive

489
00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:46,559
too deep into that, So that's something I could have

490
00:21:47,319 --> 00:21:49,960
really enjoyed if they would have zeroed in on that,

491
00:21:50,039 --> 00:21:51,160
but I think they wanted to hit more on the

492
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,720
comedy aspects. So okay, if they're doing something different, that's fine,

493
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,240
but those are his two things are a struggling actor

494
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,519
is trying to be Wonderment, and he has the secret

495
00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:02,319
that whenever he it's so funny because it reminds me

496
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,160
a lot of Uh, I just watched it today and

497
00:22:05,519 --> 00:22:07,279
I haven't seen for the longest time was Punched Drunk Love,

498
00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:09,680
because I'm trying to watch all PTA's movies again because

499
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,599
I want to rank him. It's similar where in that movie,

500
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,680
when Adam Samler we're getting nervous or pissed off or annoyed,

501
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,880
he'd go somewhere punch something right, whether it's a person

502
00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:21,640
or a bathroom or a wall. That's where wonder Man

503
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,599
kind of is like that too. When something's off, when

504
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,359
he feels like he's being embarrassed or used or he's mad,

505
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,720
that's when his powers really pop off. And he's using

506
00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:32,200
that also as a thing where I enjoy where when

507
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,240
he gets a script and he he talks like, oh

508
00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:36,839
I got a method, and there's at the beginning of

509
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,480
the show we see where he's talking with the director

510
00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:41,319
and he's starting with all of them and you know,

511
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,720
like all let's just shooting scene. He's like, oh, well,

512
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,759
I wanted to know this, will you actually doing this? Well,

513
00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:47,039
let's get the scriptwriter down here, and that's where that's

514
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,599
the imply But I love that fucking line delivery of

515
00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:51,960
like he doesn't say that, yeah, but it's implood's imploied.

516
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,799
And then he goes back to talking regularly. I can't

517
00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:55,680
do it. Yeah, yeah, it does. But he has fun

518
00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:59,480
little just like isms that come in there and are effortless. Right,

519
00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:02,160
he's great. I no notes on Yai. He did fantastic,

520
00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,640
But that's where he has to write all these notes

521
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,279
on his script and all these kind of a little

522
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,839
you know, sides like do this or try it this way?

523
00:23:10,079 --> 00:23:12,000
One because I think he's just an obsessive character. But

524
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,640
two he's also semi worry that if he truly shows himself,

525
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,039
his powers could slip, right, because they're kind of emotional base.

526
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,160
It seems like at the end of the show seems

527
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,119
like he has some control because there's been a time jump,

528
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,240
but for the whole show seems like if that emotion

529
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,559
gets in, it happens. We hear there's some incident when

530
00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:31,200
he was like nine or ten, then he like an

531
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:33,839
explosion happened and caused a fire. But then later on

532
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,119
at his mom's birthday. He freaks out and destroys the

533
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,000
table multiple times with Trevor's Slattery when some drama happens there,

534
00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:42,319
especially at the end, he blows up the entire set

535
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,119
because he finds that Trevor Slattery has been, you know,

536
00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:46,519
kind of spying on him. So that's what is and

537
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:49,279
I like that, right. It's kind of also intue to

538
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,480
the like what the acting rule can be? Right, sometimes

539
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:54,759
they want you to be vulnerable, but he's still gonna

540
00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:56,960
like rain your emotions because I gotta get this performance right.

541
00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:58,920
So I think that works there. So those are his

542
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,759
two kinds of stories. So, like I said, with wonder Man,

543
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:03,079
you know he's gonna get it, and then with the

544
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,960
other one, like I don't think we don't. Like there's

545
00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:08,119
one great moment that had me for a second where

546
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,440
he's acting and some guy's like ragging on him and

547
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,240
he gets so mad he like punches a hole through

548
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,519
his head. For a second, I thought, oh, this show's

549
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:16,480
gonna take a big turn. It's just a dream sequence.

550
00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:19,880
But that's you know, that's pretty much it for those

551
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,240
the power spectrum, right, It's just seeing him try to

552
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:25,880
do that and overcome that, and he does eventually, right

553
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,839
like we get the time jump. It's like a whole

554
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,079
thing where we don't see how, but he does overcome

555
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,720
that because at the end he's flying and doing all

556
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,519
the stuff, which we'll get there, so you kind of

557
00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:36,960
know what's gonna happen there. And then with tryvor Slader like,

558
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,240
maybe I'm wrong, maybe other people push back, but I

559
00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:42,200
feel like I saw the whole thing beat for beat

560
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,680
where okay, which I like they pick up that, okay, obviously,

561
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,920
iron In three happens he gets arrested for posing as

562
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,599
the vander and right and then the real manner and

563
00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:52,519
bust him out of prison. So when he comes back

564
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,279
from wherever it is and sunk Chi, he's coming back

565
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,960
to America and he gets arrested right away because they

566
00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,400
point out of like, hey, you didn't finish is your

567
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,480
prison time? Like you're like, here's still a felon. You

568
00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:06,240
didn't stay in there your whole sentence, and well that

569
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:08,519
wasn't really my fault, which's correct, right, he was kidnapped.

570
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:10,680
He's like, that wasn't my fault. So what they say,

571
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,759
and that's where Asian Cleary is, he's gonna get him

572
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,519
to be a mole, be a undercover agent, rain in

573
00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:18,359
his first thing because he's an actor. Simon Williams is actor.

574
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,079
They have like I think three incidences that they think

575
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,039
sim Williams like things have happened around him, so they

576
00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:26,359
think he is a powerful being, which they are breaking

577
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,640
down on, right, And that's where it's interesting. I do

578
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,799
want to learn more because I feel like since Endgame

579
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:33,920
that's been murky waters. I understand when the COVID or

580
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,920
the so Kovie accords were going, but it's like, is

581
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,400
that still a thing. I don't know. I don't think

582
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,640
they care that much. But that's the deal where hey,

583
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:42,160
you can be free, but you gotta help me catch

584
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,599
this guy. And he's an actor, so perfect, go be

585
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,160
his study buddy and they partner up right, And to

586
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,240
me when this like it was an episode two where

587
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,000
and this is exactly what happens. I'm not saying I

588
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:54,000
knew the exact episode and the beat for beat for beat,

589
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:58,000
but the overall big story beats the twist and turns

590
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,279
as far as Okay, he there to spy, they're gonna

591
00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:04,480
become friends. Uh, he's gonna tell him about that, and

592
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,119
something's gonna happen with wonder Man here, and then Ben

593
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,559
Kingsley's probably gonna take the fall form, which he does,

594
00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:13,440
which is done a great way. And then like I

595
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:15,680
felt like the last shaw this show I didn't know

596
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,920
for sure is gonna go all the way, but I

597
00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:19,640
was ninety percent sure and eyes right where Travis Sattery

598
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,039
ends up going to prison because what he does, I

599
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:24,440
guess i'll say it here, is he does they First

600
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,119
it's just he's spying on him. Then they do become

601
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,440
friends because he genuinely sees him as a good talented

602
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,640
actor and a good person, so he's trying to give him,

603
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,319
you know, a helpful hints and experience all this stuff

604
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,880
because he's obviously Travia Loattery can see something's going on

605
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,400
with this Guy's a lot of talent, but there's something

606
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,880
bottled up in them right and through there they become

607
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,880
good friends, even the point where I love the scene

608
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,240
where after he gets the Simons gets the wonder Man role,

609
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:49,599
he goes to dinner with like his agents as his team,

610
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,200
and for no reason, they're like, we don't know why

611
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:54,759
Slattery is here, but they just like they hang out

612
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:57,440
and get along, or even there's an episode before when

613
00:26:57,759 --> 00:26:59,880
which I'll get back to Simon is getting interviewed and

614
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,880
all worried about it's gonna go wrong Saturday's there's a

615
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,720
whole time like covering for him, helping him, right, So

616
00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:07,160
obviously they bond together. But that dinner scene is so

617
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,880
great where they're like, oh, well right now, like you're

618
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,000
gonna get cast in Wonderman and they've pitched this as

619
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,920
if people don't know it is like a it's almost

620
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,000
like if you were to remake Superman seventy eight, right

621
00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:20,000
in a sense, almost similar like what James gun did,

622
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:24,160
where we're gonna make a similar, you know, a similar

623
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,960
movie that has that type of uh kind of spirit

624
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:32,200
and message because they even talk about like what could

625
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,519
Wonderman be today and how could inspire people today? Right,

626
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:35,920
So it felt like it was a lot of people

627
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,839
look at this as there Chris risu band, they're trying

628
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,799
to do like a James gunn wonder Man too. Right.

629
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:43,799
So when he gets this role, his whole team was like, hey,

630
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,599
well we can capitalize on this, we can get you

631
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,720
a bunch of other roles. Your name's gonna be hot,

632
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,240
and their ideas you should do before the movie comes

633
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:52,359
out because you never know what's gonna happen, right, which

634
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,359
is a big thing in Hollywood, right, Like that's the

635
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,079
same thing as I can't remember who said, Oh, like

636
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,519
Leo recently said that where people asked him like, how

637
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:01,279
do you contine he knew the start, right, and he

638
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,799
said like, well, just don't take on as many projects.

639
00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:05,119
He kind of mentioned like look at my career and

640
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,119
things I've done. Take a little breaks kind of and

641
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,160
now in paraphrase, but you make the audience miss you.

642
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,160
But then he also specified which I agree. He's like,

643
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:14,200
but not everybody's in that same position. Some people might

644
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:16,279
need the money or just want the money, whether it's

645
00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:18,599
for themselves, whether it's for family other things. And it's like,

646
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,039
if you're getting all these opportunities, it's hard to turn

647
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,960
them down, right, And that's where he gets to where

648
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,480
they're like, oh, well we got a Netflix show with

649
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,599
you Seana Rhymes, and he's like, I don't know, and

650
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,279
he's like, huming Hong, and he throws to Trevor and

651
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,880
he's like, what do you think you do? He's like, well,

652
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,160
actually i'd pick someone with more prestige, maybe you know

653
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:36,279
something a bit more passionate, show off your chops and

654
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:37,599
they say, yeah, you should do it. I'm gonna do

655
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920
a play. And I love the scene where his whole

656
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,160
team is trying to kind of chase the money and

657
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:45,680
he turns the slatter and in this moment started he's

658
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:47,880
not like being like an agent where he's twisting against

659
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,680
him right, like trying to pull them over. You can

660
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,240
see they genuinely care for each other. And I could

661
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,079
have done even more. These episodes are short. I could

662
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:57,519
have done with even more episodes, like even get this

663
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,720
to ten and have another fun adventure with those two

664
00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:03,400
by I digress. But then what happens is eventually because

665
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,559
he gets cast as wonder Man I can't remember, it's

666
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:09,000
like Barnaby Trivi Slidery of course gets cast as a sidekick.

667
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:11,160
And then again another great moment too where I was

668
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,000
talking about this interview the whole episode because he has

669
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:17,880
the powers. It's like Kathy Freeman I think the name is,

670
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,880
and she's known as like this. She's a writer for

671
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,480
the New York Times, but she's kind of like cutthrow

672
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:24,640
right where she's heavily esteemed, but she'll find the people

673
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,359
they talk about this Joseph Gordon Levitt pigeon story, right,

674
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,480
she'll find the people to do dirt on you. So

675
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:33,119
they talked to his mom. Everything goes good there. They

676
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,319
talked to his brother, who in earlier in the series

677
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:39,119
they set up of like he dislikes somebody wants him

678
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:40,599
to fail, and then later on we do show that.

679
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,960
The brother's just like, it's just being tough love. You know,

680
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,720
they lost their father. It's just tough love. But the

681
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:46,920
same thing. Kathy's like, oh, well, how what are you

682
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,880
going to say what your brother's Oh, it's it's complicated.

683
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,599
What do you say about me? And she's like, nowhing.

684
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,119
He says he loves you, he's very proud of you.

685
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:53,920
He didn't know you could do it, but you're doing it.

686
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:56,880
And then he kind of takes that in. Even his

687
00:29:57,319 --> 00:29:59,599
ex girlfriend she gets interviewed and he's She's like, hey,

688
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,279
I know everything, Like, I know you have powers. I

689
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:02,960
know you were highing it from me. I was waiting

690
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,960
for you to tell me. But it's not in a

691
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:05,759
bitter way. It's just a way that I wish you

692
00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:07,680
would have told me and maybe we could have worked

693
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,759
this really shit about So I love the framing of

694
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,000
this episode. That all of it is like, man, Simon's

695
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,279
secret's gonna get thrown out or like, uh yeah, put

696
00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:17,240
out there. But really what Kathy is the interviewer. She's

697
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:20,200
after Slattery because he was posing as the man Rin

698
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:22,640
and then he was arrested, which that's how it figures

699
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,720
it out. She says like, once you got American Solilo,

700
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:28,640
you arrested, and Simon did not know that kinds puts

701
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,160
two and two together that he might be a mold.

702
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,440
There's some other stuff, but I liked that flip of

703
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:34,559
the whole episode is making you think, oh man, this

704
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,599
is gonna be it for Simon. She didn't really care

705
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:38,720
about him all. She's there to like interview the former

706
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:42,759
Manner and troist guy, right, so that's where he gets

707
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:44,839
mad about this, Like they have the conversation. Simon gets

708
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:46,400
me because he feel like he's been used the whole time.

709
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,920
He goes out walking out to the parking lot, but

710
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,119
all the way he's passing through the set, he completely

711
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,039
exploses the whole set. It's kind of like a like

712
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,160
an energy bomb going off, right, So when that happens,

713
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,359
which I really love this. I can't remember if it

714
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,680
was this episode, but we got to his like first

715
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,039
audition as the manner of them telling him like, oh

716
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:05,319
make it scary, lower your voice, that I thought was

717
00:31:05,319 --> 00:31:07,480
like a really fun kind of flashback to Iron Man

718
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:08,680
three a little, and I think they do that a

719
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,200
bunch with Charlie add little things in between. But what

720
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:13,480
they do is he calls them and he's trying to

721
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:15,039
like win them back in a sense of like, I'm

722
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:16,920
really sorry you were my friend and sometimes I have

723
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:20,240
none of it right, and Slader's like, you know you

724
00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:22,319
are my friend. I'm gonna prove it. I had so

725
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,480
many chances of life you haven't. I'm gonna give you

726
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:28,200
that chance back. He takes the fall. He again dons

727
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:30,519
the manner and get up, which is good because there's

728
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,720
no manner to come get him right. And he takes

729
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:35,000
credit for the bombing of the studio because he's saying

730
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:39,400
that brain Hollywood with their brain dead movies or brainwashing people,

731
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,000
so that's the idea of taking that. He even does

732
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,559
I did I did that, you know, and they come

733
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:45,519
and arrest him, so they kind of he frames himself

734
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,240
for Wonderman's explosion, and then obviously he sees that, Okay,

735
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,839
he is a good friend. He meant, well, it was

736
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,480
just a mixed up, and that's where I already thought

737
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:56,279
this was happening, but I didn't know it was gonna

738
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:57,960
be exactly like this. But he's putting like some sort

739
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,279
of it's not the raft because it's on like I

740
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:04,480
don't know, like soil and dirt, like you could just

741
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:06,720
drive too. But it's like a high security prison, right,

742
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:08,039
And I knew. I didn't know if it was gonna

743
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:09,960
be a security prison or where would be or a truck,

744
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:11,799
but I thought that's how it was gonna go. And

745
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,440
I feel like when if you're listening to this, obviously

746
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:16,079
now you've had the spoils, but I think most people

747
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,680
when they watch the show, you're gonna kind of know

748
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,359
where it's going. You're gonna go most of the beats, right,

749
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:23,680
And that's why they got these I would imagine great

750
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:25,599
actors so you can elevate that, which I think they do.

751
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:27,920
And that's what happens where he goes to some guy,

752
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,079
he says, some security guy at this prison and end

753
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:32,200
I'm saying, Simon goes to him says, hey, I want

754
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,359
to do a movie about you. Can I follow your life?

755
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,480
So he's following his life for several weeks. Eventually this

756
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:38,039
guy is like, oh, I got your clearance to come

757
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,920
to my work, and his work is where this prison is.

758
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,920
He uses the opportunity to get Trevor Slattery out of there,

759
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:48,359
and they just hug. He's using his powers. He's controlled

760
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:50,039
because he took the door off easily. He's using his

761
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,200
powers to I get ready to fly and he does.

762
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:54,319
So it's like whatever the time jump was from the

763
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,240
movie coming out and Slaturday being arrested to now Wonderman's

764
00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:59,519
like completely opposed and willing to break the law, but

765
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,920
he doesn'tven like give the guy the guard who was unwilling.

766
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,200
He did not know that Simon was gonna do this,

767
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:07,920
was just there to study a movie. He transferred a

768
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,799
bunch of money into his account and then just ends

769
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,440
agent clearing and be like he could be one of

770
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,000
the biggest assets or biggest dangerous to us of all

771
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:16,279
time because he has some sort of fucking power. I

772
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:18,359
can't remember the exact name, but it's something like that.

773
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:22,400
So so again it's kind of like for me, the

774
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:26,680
best way to describe with the show is I I

775
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:28,880
it's it's like a coloring book where I could have

776
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,240
told you what the main pictures were. I couldn't tell

777
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,359
you what they were gonna be colored in as, but

778
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:36,480
the main pictures, I feel like that's where it's pretty

779
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:39,279
formulaic and it does it stuff. I think the audition

780
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,359
episode is fun when they go to the actual director's place.

781
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,960
In there, Sime's all about prep and he's prepping and

782
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,920
the directs I want to do something fun, like I'm

783
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,000
gonna give you scenario and you go, and he gives

784
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:51,319
Yaya and this guy because they have different scene partners.

785
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,839
He's like, uh, you're having an affair and you feel

786
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:55,680
like Yaya is pulling away and yeah, yeah, you're pulling

787
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,799
away from everybody, right, And because Yahya they've said that

788
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,279
he's such a prepper, he can't and Slattery's try to

789
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:03,240
like get him to do this, like on the spot,

790
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,559
go just go with the motions how you're feeling. He

791
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,039
can't do it. So he starts to reenact the scene

792
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:11,760
from Pretty Pretty Woman, which is great because it has

793
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:13,800
one like he's fun in it, but has nothing to

794
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,360
do with the scenario that the director gave him. So

795
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,480
he's like, I'm really disappointed, Like it's not going well.

796
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:22,199
For you so and again Slattery comes in there does that.

797
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,400
But I think that's the standout episode. I do think

798
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,400
I enjoyed some of the earlier episodes more. I feel

799
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,920
like the comedy was just hitting a bit more. But

800
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:33,800
that was good and then what they did do. There's

801
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,320
probably some other stuff I'll bring up too, But to

802
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,360
set this up is they have this episode, episode four

803
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,480
called Doorman, which was a very interesting like like short

804
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:45,119
movie in the MCU where this guy we don't really

805
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,400
know how but and I'm sure people know the comics

806
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:49,679
know what that is because I'm a combook reader. But

807
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,880
I've said before like I am like in my Tears,

808
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,000
I put myself in like a high C plus as

809
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:57,320
far as knowledge goes, because there's tons stuff I haven't

810
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,679
read or it's been a long time. There's a guy

811
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,920
he he works at the club. He's just a doorman.

812
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,039
At one point he walks into an alleyway and sees

813
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:07,559
like this, like goop, that's also a hole whatnot? He

814
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:09,159
touches it and I don't know if this is even

815
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,400
powers or in log powers, but he has the powers

816
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,639
where he can like teleport you, you can crawl through

817
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:16,719
his stomach and then you'll end up somewhere. I don't

818
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,880
know if it's he gets to pick the location. I

819
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,840
think it is where he just just think it. I

820
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,840
don't know. But this happens randomly at nightclub. He gets

821
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,760
famous because Josh Gadd's there, and Josh Gadd talks about it,

822
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,239
and he's also like, hey, I want you to be

823
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,480
my security and everything, and he's like, oh, I don't know,

824
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,280
I really like my job. Here's a doorman. He's like,

825
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,280
I'll give you two hundred K. Year's okay done. So

826
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,079
it escalates to he is security for Josh Gatt to

827
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:39,599
someone sees him like, oh, you should have like a

828
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:41,639
cameo one of his roles, and we could use that

829
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,400
power because they have some sort of set or practical

830
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:47,360
prop issue and like, well, this fucking guy dorman, like

831
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,760
he's in social media famous and he has a power,

832
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,920
like we can use this to do that, So they

833
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,039
do that. He's in a movie. He gets an age

834
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:55,840
and he starts to act more, but eventually the roles

835
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,079
start to go in. He's just like in these commercial

836
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,559
like very cash and and then when things are really

837
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:04,039
down out he does some sort of like he sponsors

838
00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:07,199
like microwave potato chips and they like steam burn a

839
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,519
bunch of people. And this is to clarify if you're

840
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:11,880
listening that he haven't seen the show episode four up

841
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,639
until like the last two minutes. It's all about this

842
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,880
character Doormant, not a single like like yeah, yeah, it

843
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,679
comes out the last two minutes because he's hearing this news,

844
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,039
but no connections. It's just like its own. This is

845
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:24,159
why actors cannot have superpowers. And I like that a lot.

846
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,800
I've always said there's more shows that we should get

847
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,039
the past couple years that should have just this character

848
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:32,079
episode or this event episode, because some of us feel

849
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,800
like we're missing out. So that's all what this is

850
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,320
about is just dormant. I can see why this show

851
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,760
overall was binge. I don't think it is also just

852
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,880
like to get to move on. I think there's like

853
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,800
a little bit of that, but it's not a train

854
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,519
wreck show like Secret Invasion even Echo that I understood

855
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:49,519
of Okay, like we gotta we want to move on.

856
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:51,079
We don't want people to talk about this too long.

857
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,880
This I think you could have peeled talk about it.

858
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,719
But at the same time, I think more people will

859
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,239
clicking on it and watch the whole thing versus how

860
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,719
they're gonna watch it weekly because MOULTI episode the cliffhangers

861
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,199
are very minute, They're not Marvel level, right, And then

862
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,599
even episode four, I'm sure, like myself and stuff because

863
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:10,159
I like the episode, I wouldn't find with it, but

864
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,599
I think they still would either not a two parter

865
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,360
or they think that, hey, there's just one episode that like,

866
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:18,119
it's great for the world but does nothing for if

867
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:20,880
you like Yaya or Ben Kingsley, what should we do

868
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,960
with it? And that's where I think they go, well,

869
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,039
you know, let's I just think there's a lot of

870
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:28,760
signs to making it binge. Now, obviously it's not the

871
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,960
greatest look because I know Bogus brought this up on

872
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,480
you know, he's the host of Chris Balga, the host

873
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:36,199
of Marvel Alliance, and he's on a Bogus stream a lot.

874
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,840
We talked about this, and he talked about that where

875
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,159
it's like this Ironheart. I know there was another one

876
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:43,639
where it's like a lot of the projects that are

877
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,559
with people that aren't straight white males with color, like

878
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,440
people of color are getting the echo. Is that right?

879
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,199
Are getting the binge model? I don't think it's all

880
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,320
because of that, but it is like a curious situation, right,

881
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,880
and a thing where I don't think that was just

882
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,719
because oh, you know wonder Man's black character, let's come

883
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,480
out there. But it doesn't help when there's too many examples, right,

884
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,239
I think just the Formata show Echo, I think you

885
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,599
could have still done weekly. I think Ironheart you still

886
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:09,000
could have done weekly. I don't know what the return

887
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,039
would have been. But with this, I don't think even

888
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:14,440
the way the show functions, you could have made it weekly.

889
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:18,119
It just doesn't I just don't think people would be

890
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,679
coming back to And I think a lot of people

891
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,320
would just fall off. If you're not big in this

892
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,079
university new you are, I think people could fall off

893
00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:25,239
because there's some episodes that are just it feels very

894
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,119
much like a bin show, like you need the whole

895
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:29,599
show because there's not much in It's just like, oh,

896
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:32,840
two characters laughing, having a good time. Right, So yeah,

897
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,920
we talk about them. We talked about the damn sag

898
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,559
trop people. Let me bring up my notes here if

899
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:40,559
it's anything I missed here. Now, I wrote the the

900
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,480
Joskeren Levet joke with the Pridgeon the Pigeonsury and those

901
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:48,159
good No I think I brought anything other than there's

902
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:49,519
like and this is where it's like, okay. There's one

903
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:52,599
episode where he has to do on audition tape for

904
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,039
an andy right and he's trying to find he watches

905
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:57,599
some tape about his act, like his actual They set

906
00:38:57,679 --> 00:38:59,119
up that him and his girl friend break up or

907
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:01,199
she just wants to move, and that's how they break up,

908
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,800
just kind of by default. Eventually they do talk again,

909
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:06,679
but he watches a clip and he sees her and

910
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,039
he just can't get in the right mind space, so

911
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:09,920
he needs some help with it. They have, so it's

912
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,719
all over. Where they go this person that he pays

913
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,880
to do the tape, she's terrible lion reading, so they

914
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,920
don't do that. They try to go to Trevor Slattery's apartment.

915
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,400
There's people playing rock music. They eventually go to Joe

916
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:22,000
Pantonello's house and they set up that him and Trevor

917
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:24,719
Slattery had like this friendly rivalry back in the day

918
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,280
where he got replaced and Kingsleary's character. You know, Sary

919
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,800
holds it against him the whole time, where then Joey

920
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,599
Pants is like it's because you were late and high

921
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:34,960
on drugs all the time, like they had to get

922
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,320
rid of you as the lead. So he's taken as

923
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,239
like this personal addendum where really Joe pantanell is just

924
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,000
like I just took over because they didn't. They thought

925
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:44,719
you were fucked up, Like I have nothing to do

926
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,159
with this. And it's great because he kind of makes

927
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:48,920
some cracks at him like, oh it must be great,

928
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,320
and I be an actor, you don't go worry about

929
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,480
your looks with this, and Sion's like he is an actor,

930
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:55,239
Like he's that's what I love. It's not just like

931
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,880
the line was, oh yeah, he's an actress inform, it's

932
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,119
like he was defending him. Whether it was like it

933
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:02,440
felt like, you know much the age difference there, like

934
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,559
a big brother standing up for his little brother who,

935
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,320
like clearly the Slary character was kind of embarrassed by

936
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,239
some of these remarks saying, oh, you don't act, you

937
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,079
don't gotta worry about how you look and all this stuff. Right,

938
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,679
so they were gonna go there to record this tape

939
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,199
that doesn't go well. There's this great kind of callback

940
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:19,239
which I really enjoyed, is when they do the movie

941
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,840
obviously Trevor's slattery he's in prison. He was, like I said, Cassis,

942
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,159
Simon Williams like co lead in the movie. He's in prison,

943
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,960
can't do it. So first it's just him acting with

944
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,559
a green screen or a green tennis ball, right to

945
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:33,199
add the actor in later. And then when they showed

946
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,559
on premiere day and they show the actor Joe Pantanell,

947
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,280
who they said like they had this few right. So

948
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,320
I thought that was a good callback joke and very funny.

949
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,159
I thought that was very clever. I think that worked

950
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,039
out very well. And I think the Joe Pannell episode,

951
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:50,280
which is also just very funny, I like, not very funny,

952
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,880
but like again not belly laughing. But I had a

953
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,840
good time seeing those characters interact because at first Simon

954
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,880
Won was very humble. Is Joeandanello like he always took

955
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,840
a matrix he can take to call with his agent.

956
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,599
He's like, I can't talk to right now in Joe's house.

957
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,199
I'll worry about that tape later. It's like a very

958
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,519
don't meet your hero sort of situation, right, And yeah,

959
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:12,360
so I enjoy that. I enjoyed that callback. Let's see,

960
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,000
is there anything I'm trying to think there's anything else here.

961
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:22,159
We touched on dormant. Oh sorry, I forgot to say.

962
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,960
I went on a different tangent for Bill. They didn't

963
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,360
watch it what they said of as Doorman, right, because

964
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,280
he does these chips and he has his moment where

965
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,639
he apologizes social media. All the world's turning on. They're like,

966
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,000
is this fifteen minutes up? So he has his catchphrase

967
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000
where he says ding dong as well, he's pretty much

968
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:39,159
went to everybody loved Doorman and then everyone hates him. Uh,

969
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,960
but then it's they he his first movie he did

970
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,280
with Josh Gadd and this camera's called cash Grab and

971
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,199
Josh phones and was like, oh man, Josh has some

972
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,239
wild stuff in this episode. One point, he's like very

973
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,320
drunk or very high, and he's in a club and

974
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,360
they're doing like a remix to build a Snowman. I

975
00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:56,679
was still somewhat surprised. I know it's Disney, but it

976
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,039
was still some surprise. They let the actual song play

977
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:01,599
Dad will pretty fun stuff. So he's playing a very

978
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,159
over like exaggerated version of himself. But Gad was fun

979
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:06,840
and stuff. So but what happens is on the set

980
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,000
of Cash Grab two, they're doing the same they did

981
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:11,679
in Cash Grab one where there's some stint where all

982
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,960
we got to get at his bank. How we do it? Oh, well, Dorman.

983
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:15,840
I guess he's just playing Dorman in the movie too,

984
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,679
I don't know. But also we can get through his stomach,

985
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,679
right and just tell port he does that, and the

986
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,239
second he goes and Gadd's stommach and he closes, Dorman

987
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,519
just throws up everywhere, and then Yad doesn't come back,

988
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,480
so he like killed Gad or Gadd's in a different dimension.

989
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,199
And that's where it starts. And Simon Willons is watching

990
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,679
this video on his phone because it kind of cuts

991
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,679
to present day that because this one actor had superpowers,

992
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,920
either people don't want them on the show for just

993
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,400
like obviously like kind of you know, racism, kind of

994
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:48,360
aspects or just danger. They even say like, hey, if

995
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,400
you have a superhero on the show, the insurance is

996
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,960
gonna be out the fucking roof. So that's where it's

997
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,639
like as an actor, and that's where it comes into yeah, yeah,

998
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,400
story you don't want to be revealed. There's a couple

999
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,800
of times. There's one episode where like a biker season

1000
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:01,599
records and they go on a whole goose chase where

1001
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,480
they get a bite back, and that's another good moment

1002
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:07,440
to where him and Slattery they're gonna try and get

1003
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,800
this bite back because the guy said, Hey, if you

1004
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,519
give me my bike back, I'll delete the footage of

1005
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:14,800
Simon Williams being a hero. Right, and he has this

1006
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,880
whole thing and they make theme such a nerd. He's like,

1007
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,559
all lawna or episode five from season fifteen or something

1008
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:22,960
like that. Right, he's going on stuff that he's done before.

1009
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,719
He gives the whole synopsis for the Lord of the

1010
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:28,199
or the Law of War episode because his ideas, Okay,

1011
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,800
these people that have the bike are probably criminals, what

1012
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,440
their plan was. Okay, we're gonna say we're under cover cops,

1013
00:43:33,639 --> 00:43:36,119
we were investigating something, and we're giving the license plate

1014
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:38,840
of this bike insid was stolen. So it all makes sense. Right.

1015
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,639
It's a great layout. And when you talk the lawn order,

1016
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:42,039
he's like, I'm just gonna use all the lines there.

1017
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:44,719
They're like, oh, perfect second, the door opens like it's

1018
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,719
the Mandarin, so the cover is blown. And then all

1019
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,480
this stuff is going on with another gang. After wonder

1020
00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:54,920
Man and Hurst, Slattery and then there's like the police

1021
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,800
that show up, so there's there's some fun moments there,

1022
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,559
but yeah, I think, yeah, I think that's it then.

1023
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:04,559
And yeah, I guess if I mentioned Doorman's career is

1024
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:07,719
just over after that, because you know, obviously he probably

1025
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,559
killed Josh Gadd even though it was accidental, he probably did.

1026
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:13,199
That's why sign's just all about hiding this. And I

1027
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,400
guess there could be fun more hijinks in a second season,

1028
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,320
but I don't think they're gonna do that again. I

1029
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,880
don't know. We'd seen to see Slattery a lot, so

1030
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,320
maybe we will see Ben Kingsley again. I don't know

1031
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,119
if we're gonna see ya. Yeah, I would like to

1032
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:26,320
even if they were to say a wonder Man season two,

1033
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,519
because like I didn't love this show, but I really

1034
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:31,800
enjoyed it. Like I said at seven out of ten,

1035
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,559
that's where it is where I'd probably watch this again

1036
00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:35,559
one day. But I'm also in no rush, and I

1037
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:37,239
also want to be going to tell going around telling

1038
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,639
everybody like you gotta watch wonder Man. No it's not.

1039
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:42,280
It's not a low key level or a WandaVision or

1040
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,800
even the anameega for there's nothing like that. Right. So

1041
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,360
that's why I just don't know how that's gonna do

1042
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,880
with the general public. Especially it's not like a watch

1043
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,719
wonder Man and he's gonna be in Doomsday. That hasn't

1044
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,719
been confirmed yet, right, So there's there's a little less

1045
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,079
of that, and that's I don't think what the show

1046
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:57,719
is trying to do. But as I talk about nonspoilers,

1047
00:44:58,679 --> 00:44:59,880
I think they're gonna have to change that because I

1048
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,599
think the shows are gonna shows and movies are gonna

1049
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:04,400
have to do what they need them to do now,

1050
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,039
what they want to do and they need them to do.

1051
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:07,760
And I just don't think wonder Man is gonna pull

1052
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,239
his numbers. And I think like from the budget, as

1053
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,239
much as I enjoyed the show and yah yah, I

1054
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,159
don't think it can be justifiable, right. So I'd like

1055
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,719
to see these characters again, specifically just the duo. I

1056
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,239
think I was. I was locked there. I was very

1057
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,559
happy at that. Like I said, I was surprised how

1058
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:25,079
good their chemistry was, especially near the back half. I

1059
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,280
would take more adventures of those two, even if you

1060
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,119
brought the budget down. I guess maybe an animated if

1061
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:33,559
they wanted to, But I hope to see them somehow again.

1062
00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:36,320
But I'm not gonna hold my breath. I'm just gonna

1063
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,480
be Okay, Well, we got wonder Man. That was fun,

1064
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,360
and we'll move on to the next again. The next

1065
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,440
show is Daredevil, which we all got teasers for which

1066
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,079
you can go back in the feed. It is there.

1067
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:46,400
Officeris lots episodes of the feed right now because the schedule.

1068
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,760
But yeah, that is it. I know we'll talk about

1069
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,960
this again in the future, probably whether it's Golden Geeks

1070
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:52,719
or what we've been watching, because I think a couple

1071
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,280
of them plan to watch it. So yeah, we'll probably

1072
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,119
return to wonder Man again at some point. But yeah,

1073
00:45:57,199 --> 00:46:00,480
let me know in the discord, the YouTube, social media, whatever,

1074
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:03,440
if you have some questions or some thoughts or some pushbacks,

1075
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:05,440
or maybe there's something to think was more deeper that

1076
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,800
I didn't give enough credit. Always, as long as you're

1077
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,039
kind of respectful, we are always taking questions and are

1078
00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:13,440
always listening, always interacting, so we very much appreciate it.

1079
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,719
But yeah, that's the end of this episode. Like I said,

1080
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,400
I recommend it for a few people, few groups of people.

1081
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,920
Seven out of ten. Don't think we'll get lower. Don't

1082
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,920
think we get higher though overall an enjoyable experience, but

1083
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:28,559
nothing that I think that on the whole side. If

1084
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:30,599
you're asking me, that's where I guess I should end

1085
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:33,800
that too. Where it's like when I clarify, like all

1086
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,599
in the grand scheme of things, what the MC needs.

1087
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:39,159
I'm talking purely from a business perspective, right, purely. If

1088
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:40,360
you're to sit me down and be like, hey, we

1089
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,119
got a lot of budget of blank for this year,

1090
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,760
should we do wonder Man two, I'd say, well, unless

1091
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,199
you're adding X, Y and Z, probably not. Like, I

1092
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,119
don't think the MSU now is in a place where

1093
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,800
I know they have the spotlight unless it is, and

1094
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,800
those are special presentations, I guess. But I think spotlight

1095
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,760
could only work for newer characters that are in a

1096
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,280
small amount. But again, that's special presentation, right, So I

1097
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:04,920
doubt we see much of this in the future. I

1098
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:07,440
feel like when we've heard rumors of Strange Academy coming back,

1099
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,079
that makes sense. Strange a very popular character, wants a

1100
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:12,639
popular character, you do that. Rumors of hey, there's gonna

1101
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:14,719
be a couple X Men shows if that makes sense,

1102
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,519
because they're gonna be pushing that. I feel like that's

1103
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:18,000
in the future where you're gonna get and there's gonna

1104
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:19,719
be which some of you might like because I'm one

1105
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,639
of those people that I really enjoy Phase for I

1106
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,480
love not everything hits, but I love the chances they took,

1107
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:26,679
and I thought they try to diversify. I think a

1108
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,320
lot of people did not. So that's where I think

1109
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,039
wonner Man might fall in my camp for those people

1110
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:36,039
of I will never watch this show for whatever reason, right,

1111
00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:39,280
So yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting to see the

1112
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:41,280
next slate of shows and stuff they now. It's even

1113
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,920
though I don't think we have big slates in the

1114
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:45,880
near future. But yeah, that's my thoughts on oneer Man.

1115
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,880
Like I said, if you have any thoughts, there's always

1116
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,559
places you can contact us, And I promise when you

1117
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:52,159
hear from you next, which won't be now unless you're

1118
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:55,000
getting on patroon lots cast there, but won't be until

1119
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:57,199
the Saturday the Royal Rumba, which is a great time.

1120
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,719
So until then, I promise you it'll not be born

