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<v Speaker 1>Hello friends, Steve Starkton here with you. Welcome to our

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<v Speaker 1>latest episode. In this video we bring you the strange

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<v Speaker 1>mysteries of the Babes in the Woods and little Lord

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<v Speaker 1>faunt Leroy. Join me. Let's take a walk and see. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all different sorts of missing persons cases happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, as well as too many aspects to

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<v Speaker 1>each individual case and could ever be specifically named. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of those aspects that's been coming up more and

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<v Speaker 1>more often lately in the media and in this community,

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<v Speaker 1>primarily involving cold cases where the missing is unidentified for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time. It's almost as though the victim

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<v Speaker 1>or victims seemingly appeared from nowhere, or at the very

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<v Speaker 1>least had no name or identity at the time when

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<v Speaker 1>they were killed. In today's modern day and age, we

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<v Speaker 1>often carried many objects on us that could at least

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<v Speaker 1>lead to our identity should an accident or purposeful tragedy

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<v Speaker 1>befollow us. But back in the day that mostly it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the case. In this video, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately talking about missing, deceased and unidentified children. Even now,

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<v Speaker 1>children under a certain age aren't required to carry an

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<v Speaker 1>idea around with them, and it's not even mandatory in

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<v Speaker 1>all schools, as some people think it should be. Could

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<v Speaker 1>the advancements in DNA technology and the freedom the information

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<v Speaker 1>here has brought us helped the authorities finally put a

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<v Speaker 1>name to these victims. Only time will tell. A case

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be unnecessarily senseless and especially tragic is

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<v Speaker 1>one which was stumbled upon January fourteenth, nineteen fifty three,

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<v Speaker 1>when a simple gardener near Stanley Park in the vicinity

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<v Speaker 1>of Vancouver, British Columbia and Canada stumbled across a gruesome

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<v Speaker 1>and shocking scene. The bones of what appeared to be

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<v Speaker 1>two very young children were unearthed when the gardener disturbed

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<v Speaker 1>a patch of overgrown and extremely dense brush. The bones

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<v Speaker 1>were covered with what's only described as a rain cape,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seemed obvious that these poor children had been

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<v Speaker 1>there quite a long time. There were quite a few

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly random items and objects scattered around the two victims,

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<v Speaker 1>and the initial investigators hoped that even one of these

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<v Speaker 1>items would lead to not only the identity of the victims,

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<v Speaker 1>but possibly to their killer as well. The items are

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<v Speaker 1>covered and bagged into evidence. Were one woman's shoe, two

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<v Speaker 1>bicycle helmets, a child's lunch box, and a cheap fur coat.

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<v Speaker 1>Also among these seemingly benign items was a sinister one

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<v Speaker 1>in that it was immediately recognized to be the murder weapon,

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<v Speaker 1>a small hatchet. The initial examination of the bodies uncovered

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<v Speaker 1>that they'd been there in that brush and undiscovered for

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<v Speaker 1>nearly five years. The children were originally thought to be

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<v Speaker 1>a male and a female, and between the ages of

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<v Speaker 1>six and ten years old, respectively. It was positive that

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<v Speaker 1>they were perhaps siblings, but with DNA technology being non

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<v Speaker 1>existent back in nineteen fifty three, an assumption was all

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<v Speaker 1>that that was. Despite all the assumed evidence found in

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<v Speaker 1>the area with the children, nothing could be used to

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<v Speaker 1>advance the case at all or to identify even just

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<v Speaker 1>one of the victims, and the case quickly became one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most talked about and widely recognized cold cases

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<v Speaker 1>in the region. The children remained nameless for the time

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<v Speaker 1>being at least, and the investigators in the community started

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<v Speaker 1>referring to them as the babes in the woods, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how the case would stay known for decades to come.

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<v Speaker 1>There were never any leads or witnesses, and the case

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<v Speaker 1>was basically doomed to grow cold from the second the

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<v Speaker 1>corpses were discovered. While many of the mysteries of this

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<v Speaker 1>case remained unsolved to this day, that doesn't mean anyone

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<v Speaker 1>involved has forgotten the children or their case, and through

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<v Speaker 1>the years there has been some movement due to the

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<v Speaker 1>advancement as well of DNA and other technology used nowadays

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<v Speaker 1>in order to not only identify victims, but suspects as well.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety eight, police chose to utilize some of

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<v Speaker 1>the modern day testing techniques available at that time to

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<v Speaker 1>see if they could get this case solved once and

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<v Speaker 1>for all. In additional evidence had been stored at the

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<v Speaker 1>Vancouver Police Museum, and investigators were hopeful that they might

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<v Speaker 1>finally get some additional information regarding this long cold case

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps bring some semblance of justice to the still

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<v Speaker 1>unidentified little victims. On further and more recent examinations, it

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<v Speaker 1>was determined that the two children were both male, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were also able to determine that they were in

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<v Speaker 1>fact brothers, apparently despite not seeming like much. This changed

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<v Speaker 1>the entire course of the investigation going forward as far

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<v Speaker 1>as how it would be handled and what the police

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<v Speaker 1>were looking for. It's believed that the initial assumption that

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<v Speaker 1>the two children were brother and sister, one male and

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<v Speaker 1>one female had inadvertently been the cause for the investigators

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<v Speaker 1>dropping the ball due to the scenario they believed had

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the first place in order for the two

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<v Speaker 1>to end up where and how they eventually did. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>they rested their entire case on that assumption alone, and

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<v Speaker 1>therefore it didn't get anywhere from the first step outwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Under this new information, and while for using over all

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<v Speaker 1>of the old statements and leads in the file, of

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<v Speaker 1>which there were almost none, investigators realized that at least

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<v Speaker 1>one of those statements was now fairly ominous in retrospect.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple had come forward and stated that they had

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed two little boys walking in the park near the

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<v Speaker 1>time when the kids were thought to have been murdered,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they had been accompanied by a man and

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<v Speaker 1>a woman who appeared to be in their early twenties

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<v Speaker 1>in appearance. Bizarrely enough, one of these little boys had

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly been holding a hatchet. The young couple was spotted

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<v Speaker 1>again by other witnesses at the same park later on

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<v Speaker 1>in that same day, only they were alone and there

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<v Speaker 1>was no sign of the children they'd been with earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>To add to the curiosity as to why these statements

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<v Speaker 1>weren't investigated to begin with was the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>second set of witnesses who claimed to have seen the

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<v Speaker 1>couple without the kids, also alleged that the woman seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be wearing only one shoe and was covered in blood.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time when these witness statements had come in,

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<v Speaker 1>the woman hadn't been found yet, and the connection wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>made after their bodies had been uncovered, because the police

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<v Speaker 1>had been so adamant that they were looking for the

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<v Speaker 1>murders and identities of a boy and a girl unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you not investigate a woman covered in blood

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<v Speaker 1>and only wearing one shoe. Due to the extremely long

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<v Speaker 1>passage of time between the murders, the discovery, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the new evidence, the witnesses weren't able to be located

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<v Speaker 1>ever again, and the case wasn't able to be taken

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<v Speaker 1>any further. It's still unsolved to this very day. Who

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<v Speaker 1>were these children and who were they with that day?

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<v Speaker 1>Why hadn't the police and investigators made the connection between

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<v Speaker 1>the strange reports of a woman with one shoe who

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<v Speaker 1>was covered in blood and walking through a park with

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<v Speaker 1>a man. Just hours after the same man and woman

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<v Speaker 1>were allegedly seen with two little boys and said park,

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<v Speaker 1>with one of them holding a hatchet, and the hatchet

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<v Speaker 1>death of the two bodies that were uncovered by the

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<v Speaker 1>gardener of that fateful day so long ago is anyone's guess.

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<v Speaker 1>The main question most people at leave would like to

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<v Speaker 1>know is how did it go completely unnoticed in some

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<v Speaker 1>family out there somewhere that two of its children suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>especially ones who were so young they couldn't possibly have

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<v Speaker 1>taken off to start new lives alone. It's thought by

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<v Speaker 1>many familiar with the case that the killers were in

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<v Speaker 1>fact that young couple that day, and that they were

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps the parents or were somehow otherwise related to these

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<v Speaker 1>little boys and managed to keep it quiet for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of their lives. Another case of an unidentified baby

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods is the case that's come to be

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Little Lord Fauntleroy case. On March eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty one, floating in a pond near the O'Loughlin

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<v Speaker 1>Stone Company and Wakeisha, Wisconsin, the United States, was a blondhaired,

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<v Speaker 1>brown eyed boy. The child was very well dressed in

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<v Speaker 1>a sweater, leather shoes, and what would be described by

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<v Speaker 1>most sources and an elegant top. Due to the description

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<v Speaker 1>of the child's clothing and the fact that he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>able to be immediately identify, he was given the nickname

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<v Speaker 1>Little Lord Fauntleroy. This was because of the initial assumption

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<v Speaker 1>that he had to have come from some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>great wealth to be dressed as he was, especially back

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<v Speaker 1>in those days and in that area of the country. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you that don't know, Little Lord faunt

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<v Speaker 1>Leroy is the name of the lead character in the

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<v Speaker 1>children's book that was popular at the time. The man

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<v Speaker 1>who initially discovered the body and called it into the

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<v Speaker 1>police was a man who worked for the same stone

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<v Speaker 1>company named John Burlach. The sheriff of Wakeisha County at

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<v Speaker 1>that time who took the call from Burlich was named

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<v Speaker 1>Clarence Keebler, and he rushed as fast as he could

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<v Speaker 1>to the scene with the coroner in tow, who also

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be his partner. The corner's name was L. F. Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the autopsy was conducted, the county officers collaborated with

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<v Speaker 1>the Milwaukee State Police in order to try and uncover

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<v Speaker 1>some clues as to the identity of the boy, and also,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I had met such a gram and tragic fate.

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<v Speaker 1>The discovery of the body and the boy his nickname,

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<v Speaker 1>which was given to him by the press for almost

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<v Speaker 1>immediately front page in all the local newspaper. The autopsy

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<v Speaker 1>was eventually conducted and it was soon uncovered that the

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<v Speaker 1>child had been beaten about the head repeatedly with a

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<v Speaker 1>blunt object, which was the cause of death. To back

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<v Speaker 1>else and then simply disposed of in that bond was

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that there was little to no water found

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<v Speaker 1>in the child's lungs, and it was thought that he

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<v Speaker 1>had been in the water for at least a couple

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe several months. The Milwaukee Police Department then had

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<v Speaker 1>the remains buried at the Weaber Funeral Home at seven

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six Northeast Avenue, and hoped that the boy's family

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<v Speaker 1>would show up to attend his services. Perhaps they thought

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<v Speaker 1>at least someone in the extended family, the school, or

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<v Speaker 1>even the community at large would recognize the child, but

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<v Speaker 1>no one did. All the efforts made by investigators were

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<v Speaker 1>for naught, as this child still remains unidentified to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>with no further clues, leads, or suspects ever being uncovered

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<v Speaker 1>or otherwise coming to light. A local woman named Many Conrad,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the generosity of her heart, paid for the

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<v Speaker 1>young boys remains to have a proper burial at the

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<v Speaker 1>Prairie Home Cemetery on March seventeenth of that same year,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty one. His appetash simply reads a known boy

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<v Speaker 1>found in a Laflin quarry, Walkeshaw, Wisconsin, March eighth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. This wasn't the end, though, and although this

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<v Speaker 1>case hasn't ever been completely solved, it did gain some

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<v Speaker 1>traction for a little island. At least in the initial

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<v Speaker 1>days of the investigation, a mine pump worker named Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Kocher came forward and reported to the authorities an accountable

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<v Speaker 1>woman he had run into in the months before the

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<v Speaker 1>body was found, but almost in the exact same spot.

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<v Speaker 1>The woman was said to have looked to fancy in

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<v Speaker 1>a seemingly expensive red sweater and driving a nice looking

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<v Speaker 1>and newer model Ford vehicle. Mike had seen or ran into.

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<v Speaker 1>Counts differ throughout sources. This unidentified woman on February sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>which was almost an entire month of the day that

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<v Speaker 1>the gardener would make his grisly discovery. According to Mike Cocher,

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<v Speaker 1>the woman approached him, her eyes filled overflowing with tears,

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<v Speaker 1>and asked him if he had seen a little boy

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<v Speaker 1>in the area, which Mike replied he had not. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>claimed the woman was nervous and had a rather shifty

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<v Speaker 1>The child, who was given this strange nickname by the

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<v Speaker 1>media and investigators, captivated the public's interest from the moment

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<v Speaker 1>his lifeless body was found. It still and often sparks

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<v Speaker 1>heated debates, great discussions, and innumerable conspiracy theories as to

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<v Speaker 1>what could have happened to him, he could have been,

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<v Speaker 1>and who the woman and man seemingly searching for him

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<v Speaker 1>were questions which none of which would be answered, either

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<v Speaker 1>back then or in more recent years. A small committee

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<v Speaker 1>which included Sheriff Keebler, the district attorney at the time

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<v Speaker 1>named Alan Young, and A C. A. Dean all got

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<v Speaker 1>together and held contests and offered money for anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>still it was all to no avail. Prizes for these

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<v Speaker 1>in today's money is over fifteen thousand. But nobody ever

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<v Speaker 1>were of the opinion that perhaps the reason nobody ever

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<v Speaker 1>despite his description and picture being widely circulated in the

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<v Speaker 1>newspapers of the day, was because he had been kidnapped

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<v Speaker 1>from a wealthy family somewhere far away who wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>mouth which seemingly spread far and wide back then. Not

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<v Speaker 1>far enough, though, mind you. Twenty eight years after the

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<v Speaker 1>Lord Fauntleroy. In nineteen forty eight, a medical examiner from

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<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee went to investigators and suggested that perhaps the child's

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<v Speaker 1>disappeared the same year as Little Lord, but it seems

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<v Speaker 1>this also led nowhere. A man named David Dobrick, who

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<v Speaker 1>sale towards the end of January that same year. He

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<v Speaker 1>again the promising lead led nowhere. In the end, a

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<v Speaker 1>It's unknown what became of this lead or these people,

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<v Speaker 1>as the child still has no name and it's still

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<v Speaker 1>an unsolved case that we have to conclude went nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. On May sixteenth, nineteen forty nine, a

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<v Speaker 1>Faultleroy's body be carried out in order to see if

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<v Speaker 1>other new information could be gleaned by a re examination

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<v Speaker 1>with more modern forensics. But it's said that the exhamation

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<v Speaker 1>was never done due to the fact that Sheriff Leslie

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<v Speaker 1>p Rock, teacher and corner at the time Alvin Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>denied the plan because they didn't want the child's resting

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<v Speaker 1>place to sturb. This little boy, who was given the

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<v Speaker 1>endearing nickname, is still buried behind a very plain monument

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<v Speaker 1>with a very plain appetite, which states little to nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about him or the enormous mystery that surrounds his very

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<v Speaker 1>identity and what in the world could have happened to

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<v Speaker 1>him all those years ago. The case of Little Lord

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<v Speaker 1>Fauntleroy is another in which we could ask ourselves, how

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<v Speaker 1>was that not a single person came forward to claim

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<v Speaker 1>this child, or who was worried that some little boy

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<v Speaker 1>in their own family hadn't been seen for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>The man did come forward, claiming to be the uncle

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<v Speaker 1>and making all kinds of incriminating statements about his sister

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<v Speaker 1>and her husband, though it seems he either wasn't credible

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<v Speaker 1>This could very well be the case too, and it

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<v Speaker 1>could have nothing to do with his credibility, as there

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<v Speaker 1>was no DNA really at all back then, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>how we've come to know and rely on it in

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<v Speaker 1>today's modern world. It's a shame and a testament to

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<v Speaker 1>how our world is right now that there's a label

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<v Speaker 1>for cases specifically of unknown children found deceased in the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>with their identities never becoming known, that label being Babes

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<v Speaker 1>in the Woods. Sadly, there are more cases like this

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<v Speaker 1>from all over the world, and even despite modern advancements

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<v Speaker 1>in technology and in law enforcement in general, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>happening at quite a high rate. There is hope, though,

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<v Speaker 1>as even just recently we've seen many cases thought to

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<v Speaker 1>be long since forgotten or even unsolvable from decades even

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<v Speaker 1>a century ago, where DNA advancements and new investigative techniques

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to permanently solve a mystery and put

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<v Speaker 1>an end to the speculation once and for all. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we say for sure that this will happen with the

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<v Speaker 1>above mentioned cases that we brought to you today. No,

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<v Speaker 1>sadly we cannot, but as always we will continue to

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<v Speaker 1>pray and hope for all the victims we discussed with

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<v Speaker 1>you here on this channel. Well, friends, there you have it,

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<v Speaker 1>sad sad cases. Indeed, I look forward to your comments,

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<v Speaker 1>but please keep it friendly and respectful until we meet again.

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<v Speaker 1>Be good yourselves and each other. Stay safe out there.

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<v Speaker 1>As for me, I'll see you a little further on

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<v Speaker 1>down the trail. I'm Steve Stockton and I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you next time. Tell your pants I said, Hi.