WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:04.440 It's night time with Dan Ray. I'm dull you Beasy 2 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:06.080 bond in news radio. 3 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:18.519 Tonight will be much cooler than recent. Here Gone Today 4 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:21.199 is going to be big, the most watched daytime service 5 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:26.920 of the year, over six million worldwide by one the 6 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:28.039 King of the world. 7 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:34.119 Your whole ministry is set up to serve the Gemstones. 8 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:42.119 Shame yourself, well, praise bd he. Why does that he 9 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:43.079 leave me out of everything? 10 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:43.759 Being leaders? 11 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:44.799 That's men's business. 12 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:46.679 No more of a man than Kelvin is why God 13 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.600 argue with today. 14 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:57.920 Good afternoon, Jesus, thank you for letting me to be 15 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:00.560 born into this world as a Gemstone. 16 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:02.759 I grew up in a rural area. What she's trying 17 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:05.599 to say is that she is a poverty person. I 18 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:08.280 grew up in a hard working, middle class family. We 19 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:10.280 weren't rich, but we also weren't poor. 20 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:12.760 And we also don't really care if that's kind of 21 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:14.480 a boring lame or the story. 22 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:20.959 Nothing better than the Gemstones, the righteous Gemstones on HBO 23 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:23.599 and joining us right now is one of my good friends. 24 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:27.079 As we continue our series of Boston Guys doing Well 25 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:29.959 in Hollywood. We had Michael Mallley on, we had Chip Hamilton, 26 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:32.879 on and now we have Chris Pappers on the Pride 27 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:34.760 of ALGONQA and high School Happy. 28 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:39.040 How you doing, Oh Gary, how you doing, mister Tangle, 29 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:40.319 I'm doing great. 30 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.000 Listen, it's great to talk to you. And I just 31 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:46.120 want to run down some of your credits here because 32 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:48.519 one of the things that I find amazing, and I 33 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:51.319 talked about this you probably weren't listening, but at the 34 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:53.640 beginning of the show, it's almost like the Ray Donovan thing. 35 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.239 It's like, could Ray Donovan really go half a Hollywood 36 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:01.400 is from Boston. It's amazing to me, it really is. 37 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:03.799 Half of Hollywood's from Boston. All the guys working on 38 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:06.040 I don't know if it's because as Bostonians and New 39 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.520 England nights, we have so much pain that we need 40 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.800 to go out and do something creative. 41 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:14.479 But it is quite a pain. It is quite a 42 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:15.439 painful profession. 43 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:17.639 There's no doubt about that. 44 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:19.639 If you hit the nerve, you hit the nerve on 45 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:20.199 something there. 46 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:24.280 But you know you've written, you'd be Halloween. You worked 47 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:28.560 with Sandler on that wrong way, Missy producer, do over 48 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:32.719 the right I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry, let me get 49 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:37.080 that wrong. The Righteous Jemstones also on Unhitched, where you 50 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:39.360 worked with the great Rashida Jones. So you've had a 51 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:42.039 great run and a great career and I just want 52 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:44.639 to talk to you about the ride. So, you know, 53 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:47.000 what do you think is it about people from New England? 54 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:49.199 Because I mean I got to get Donnie Wahlberg on 55 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:51.439 here and some other folks. What do you think about 56 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:53.960 it is people from New England that make great writers 57 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:56.039 or great creative people? 58 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:00.879 You know, maybe that we're all like arcastic, son of 59 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:02.639 a bitch is grown up. I think that might have 60 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:05.240 to do something with it about it, So I don't know, 61 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:09.080 it's a good question. Yeah, when I came out to 62 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:14.159 l A, you know, uh in Santa Monica, and it 63 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:16.319 took me about five minutes to figure out that, uh 64 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:20.080 Sonny McLean's And they even have a Boston bar out there, right, 65 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:23.879 you know, it's almost like they have you should have 66 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:27.759 like a Sonny McLean internship out there that just bred 67 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:31.120 a bunch of Boston people. But but yeah, no, there's 68 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:33.560 a lot of connections, a lot of I remember when 69 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:35.680 I first got out there, there's a lot of like 70 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:38.599 Emerson people out there from Boston. I remember they had 71 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.319 they have a lot of internships that I met a 72 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:43.879 lot of good people that had come out there. But 73 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:46.719 you know, it's just just like one of those things. 74 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:50.520 I don't know, you tell me, you know why. What 75 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:52.840 drove me out there was you know, it was kind 76 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.840 of on my own. I didn't really follow anybody. I 77 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:59.560 kind of went on my I drove out solo. And 78 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:02.080 when you get out there, you know, it is kind 79 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:05.000 of the land of the lost out there. But you 80 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:08.039 know that's one thing that's a little bit of a 81 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:12.800 saving grace, is like the connections that you make, ironically 82 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:17.120 are the deeper ones are all from the people, uh, 83 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:21.360 from the East Coast. You know, our friend Chris Meyer, 84 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:24.120 he was one of the first people I met out there, 85 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:26.600 and you know that's how I hooked up with the 86 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:30.120 Fairly Brothers. But I met him even before I met 87 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.800 the Fairlies or before he met the Fairlies, and uh, 88 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:36.240 you know, I guess us Boston people kind of like 89 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:37.839 find a way to kind of connect. 90 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.319 Isn't there like a Newemen basketball game out there? 91 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:43.600 Yeah, you know, it was just it was yeah, it 92 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.879 was like the courts and Santa Monica and it was 93 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:49.839 kind of a melting pot, you know of whether it 94 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:51.879 was Boston. I mean it was really you know a 95 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:55.439 group of people from everywhere, but it was really a 96 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:59.720 way to connect with with people. I mean even Woody 97 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:03.920 Haw some movie playing out there. Don cheatle I had 98 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:06.959 a great story about, Uh, this isn't a you know, 99 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:10.040 a Boston guy. But I went out there to run 100 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:13.160 a game once and we needed a fifth and this 101 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.439 guy kind of this like six foot six a Donnis 102 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:19.480 who's like twenty two years old, walks out and I'm like, hey, 103 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:22.120 you want to actually kind of run? We just own 104 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.079 the court for the whole day. Uh, And I'm figuring 105 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:28.199 like this guy has to be a professional athlete. And 106 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:31.319 his name was Jason, and I'm like, what are you 107 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:32.600 doing out here? And he's like, yeah, I'm out here 108 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:35.319 for the NFL Draft and I'm like, oh really, I'm 109 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.319 my god, guys like the most athletic person I've ever 110 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.079 witnessed in any sport. And then I remember I went 111 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:45.040 home and I looked in the first round in my 112 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:49.160 Sporting News magazine and it was Jason Taylor that was 113 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:53.480 ended up drafted by the Miami Dolton And they had 114 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:56.279 one blurb in the Sporting News and it said could 115 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:59.160 be the most athletic player in the whole draft. And 116 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:00.959 I was like, oh, yeah, he was a good athlete. 117 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:02.920 Oh oh yeah, yeah, there's no doubt about that. 118 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:07.240 Who but those courts, but those courts were like, you know, 119 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:09.839 really a melting pot. And how I kind of how 120 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:13.720 you kind of made your friends your connections and you know, uh, 121 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:15.079 it was kind of a big thing for me. 122 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:19.399 Well, I heard Bill Lawrence tell the story. Who was 123 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:21.800 actually a writer on Friends for a season. But as 124 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:23.519 we know, Bill Lawrence went on to do Spin City. 125 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:27.759 I believe Spen City. But Ted Lasso and he and 126 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:32.920 George Clooney before Clooney was Clooney were playing basketball and 127 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:36.839 Lawrence said, yeah, I got on this show Friends. I 128 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.800 don't know if it's going to go. And then cluding said, yeah, 129 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:40.639 well I'm on the show. 130 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:41.160 Er. 131 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:44.199 They've used the name a hundred times. It doesn't look 132 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:49.120 that good, right, And they were sitting there talking about it, 133 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.600 like playing hoop. It's a big it's a big thing 134 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:55.519 in Hollywood, you know, it is the families, right, didn't 135 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:58.360 fairly used to take courts with them on sets. 136 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.279 They you know, not as much as like Sandler. You know, 137 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:06.720 he plays like everywhere. But but yeah, we would like 138 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.800 we would have games all the time, you know, Pete 139 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:12.639 and Bob whenever they would go on set. I mean 140 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:15.199 they would make the sets amazing, like you know we've 141 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.040 had we would have a crew egg tosses, you know 142 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:21.759 what I mean. Uh, we just stopped for ushing and 143 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:24.120 those guys. We just have all the crew everybone who 144 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:26.040 would pair up for an egg toss at the end 145 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:30.680 of the day. But but yeah, I mean, you know, 146 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:34.199 that's how you meet people when you go you know, 147 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:35.839 when you go out and you make the jump, you 148 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:38.800 kind of have to figure you know, stuff out, and 149 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:42.480 you're going to meet people, and uh, you know the 150 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:44.920 weird thing is is these people become your good friends 151 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:48.759 first and then you kind of like branch out from 152 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:51.000 there because everyone you know, at the time when I 153 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:55.839 moved out there in the mid nineties, you know, Hollywood 154 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:57.759 was you know, it's a different story back then now 155 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.319 from now to you know me, the nineties was like 156 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.240 just a great error to kind of go out to 157 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:08.399 LA and try to you know, try to make it. 158 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:11.079 You know, there was no internet. There was like you know, 159 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:14.839 trade magazines and you know, you just hope one day 160 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.560 you were gonna your name would be in the trades 161 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.680 and selling the script, and uh, you know it was. 162 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:22.920 You know, I look back on it now as such 163 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.120 a nostalgic time, you know. Uh. In these days it's 164 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:30.480 just streaming and you know, the games changed COVID. Everything's 165 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:35.399 done still through zoom meetings instead of in person meetings. Uh, 166 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:37.799 you know, it's just a different world. Now. 167 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:40.639 We are going to continue our conversation with the Great 168 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:43.480 Chris Pappus from Malgonquin High School, as we continue our 169 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:48.039 series with Boston guys doing well in Hollywood. That's all 170 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:49.440 coming up next year on WBZ. 171 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.919 Now back to Dan ray Line from The Window World, 172 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:58.080 Light Side Studios on WBZ the News Radio. 173 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.360 Dark forces are at work, evil forces that wish to 174 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:04.240 destroy our family. 175 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:09.080 The Lord has always had Gemstone's back. 176 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:16.799 They don't messing with the male. 177 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:18.000 The Lord is easy pickings. 178 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.240 I refuse to be blackmail kind of. I mean, that's 179 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:23.200 pretty much exactly what this is. 180 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:28.000 Can you go down for this? 181 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:30.799 You better keep our names out your mouth. You'll stop 182 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:31.639 trying to step to me. 183 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:36.320 Did Jesus flash me? Do it again? 184 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:37.120 See what I did? 185 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:40.039 You live dumb with them glasses on, wearing them it's. 186 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:47.799 Fashion to night daytime dummy. Maybe Johnny sees it was right. 187 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:54.559 Any of this family has become an abomination. What day 188 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:56.919 you just threw Jesus across the room? No it was 189 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.519 a karate person. No, that wasn't a karate person. 190 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:02.200 That was Jesus. 191 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:04.720 Writer and producer from The gem Stones. Do you want 192 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:07.559 to see Chris Pappus to continue our series of local 193 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:09.759 guys doing great in Hollywood? And I do want to 194 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:12.519 get to the JEMs Stones real quick. But Danny McBride 195 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.240 and the key to that whole show, pap is just 196 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.360 everything is said seriously, right, but it's hilarious. 197 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:22.799 Yeah, you know, it's uh, it's really Danny's baby and 198 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.879 Danny's vision and you know, us writers here we just 199 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:29.320 we support his vision. But but yeah, it kind of 200 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.519 comes from uh, it comes from truth. You know, he 201 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:33.600 grew up in the South and he was kind of 202 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.240 a witness to all the stuff and uh in these megachurches, 203 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.759 and you know, obviously there's a lot of comedy to 204 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:45.440 mine from that, but you know, but it definitely comes 205 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:48.639 from like you want to believe that these people are 206 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.799 you know, believers, you know what I mean, especially from 207 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:55.519 the top from John Goodman and uh, you know, and 208 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:58.240 you know we do a lot of flashbacking too to 209 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:03.159 kind of you know, deep root, that kind of realistic approach, 210 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.519 so we can go a little hog wild with the comedy. 211 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:09.840 Well yeah, it's also tough though. As you told me 212 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.000 when this started, is they don't make fun of religion 213 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.720 because you don't want to insult people. But their believers, 214 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:18.720 the Gemstones are believers. They just want to make a 215 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:19.799 lot of money doing it. 216 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:24.639 Yes, exactly, you know, And it's it's a core though, 217 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.000 you know, when the when the show's kind of running, 218 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:30.480 running its best and it's it's it's on track. It's 219 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.559 really this three spoiled kids, you know what I mean, right, 220 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:36.440 and the fact that it's like, you know, that's really 221 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:38.000 how you get away with it. It's like, you know, 222 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:43.360 it's kind of the rich megachurch dad and it's a business. 223 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.399 It's like the family run business. And but like you know, 224 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:50.480 he has these hill these grown you know, grown men 225 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:54.360 and women are his children, but still act like their children. 226 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:59.320 And uh, you know, whenever we're writing and whenever we 227 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:02.879 can get the three of them in scenes together, is 228 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:05.799 I think when we all feel the show hits stride. 229 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:08.720 Yeah, I mean Edie's great, Edie Patterson, correct. 230 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:12.440 He's Yeah, he's like just such a talent like she 231 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:14.320 she writes with us. So you know, there's only about 232 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:19.480 six writers, including Danny and Edie. So you know that's 233 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:22.080 the other part of this. Uh, to be in such 234 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:25.919 a small writer's room with really fifty percent of the 235 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:31.399 core cast with Edie and Danny is amazing. You know. 236 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:33.320 It's like, you know, it's very rare that you could 237 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:36.519 do that. It'd be hard pressed to find another show 238 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:40.440 out there that that does that, where you have the 239 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:43.840 two of the main leads in the writer's room, and 240 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:46.120 and so it's kind of a it's almost an advantage. 241 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:46.360 You know. 242 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:49.840 Well, she's also a member of the Groundlings or wasn't 243 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:50.480 she a Grounding? 244 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.639 Yes? And she does improv like Edie's just what's great 245 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:56.960 about easy, Like she just hones her craft. I mean, 246 00:12:57.480 --> 00:12:59.840 not only is is she a great actor, she's a 247 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:03.440 great writer too, And so we collaborate a lot together 248 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:06.080 and it's so much fun working with Edie and she's 249 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:10.120 such a cool person. And a little fact there you 250 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:14.240 mentioned Unhitched, right, and that was a TV show that 251 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:17.159 we created. I believe it was two thousand and eight, right, 252 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:21.840 and and we ran that. We casted that show, you know, 253 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:25.960 with bit actors, and we always tried to find special people, 254 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:32.159 and we actually we casted her and she made the 255 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:34.720 cut in a in one of the episodes of Unhitched 256 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:36.759 when it was one of her first jobs. 257 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:37.480 Oh wow. 258 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:39.960 And I didn't know her at all. Right. It was 259 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:42.240 kind of like, we're all kind of like, oh, she's 260 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:46.320 really funny, let's hire just the funny ones. And then 261 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:49.200 you cut to you know, a decade and a half 262 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:52.480 later and or you know, ten years later, maybe when 263 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:55.200 we first started the writer room. I didn't recognize her. 264 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:58.120 And she kind of was like, you know, I was 265 00:13:58.360 --> 00:13:59.600 brought up on hit. She's like, you know, I was 266 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:03.919 kind of I'm like what, I gotta be kidding. She's like, yeah, 267 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:07.679 that's look my first job. I was like, oh, that's wild. 268 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:12.519 So but she's yeah, she she does improv shows, you know, 269 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.320 down here in Charleston, she does some improv shows. When 270 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:19.200 she's in LA. She does improv shows. You know, she's 271 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:20.559 just a pro, that's what she is. 272 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:23.759 She plays Judy Jimstone. She said, people who follow the 273 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:26.039 show obviously know who we're talking about, but Judy Jimson 274 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:29.240 along with Adam Devine who plays the brother, and then 275 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:31.120 Danny as well. But one thing I want to mention, 276 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:32.679 she was great and knives out. 277 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:38.320 Yeah, she's great, knives out and uh yeah, I mean 278 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:38.840 she's great. 279 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.240 That was a serious turn. That was not a comedic role. 280 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:43.759 It was not a comedic role. So I mean she 281 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.799 could you know, she can act, you know, but she 282 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:51.639 can also wing it. You know. It's and I you know, 283 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.120 and you see it. I mean when you let her 284 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:57.200 go do her thing, you just kind of stand back 285 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:01.519 and watch. She's great. You know. When we write pages 286 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:03.480 and a lot of times we'll read them out loud. 287 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:06.840 It's always fun to just to sit back and listen 288 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:09.000 to an eatye one, you know that's great. 289 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.279 What is the writer's room like? Take us through that 290 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:15.000 whole experience. You've been in a number of them, But 291 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:18.279 what are you know, in general some of your experiences 292 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:19.960 and what is it like with the Gemstones. 293 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:25.759 Well, like I just said, like the most unique thing 294 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:29.440 is having you know, what is it forty percent of 295 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:31.480 the writers are the actors, you know what I mean? 296 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:36.399 So having those two people in it, and you know, 297 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:39.759 it's just real intimate. We kind of operate out of Charleston. 298 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.399 We kind of you know, I was in La for 299 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:47.440 you know, I don't even know from ninety four up 300 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:51.399 until two thousand and nine eighteen, and then we kind 301 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:55.440 of McBride just said, hey, do you want to go 302 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:58.519 right on the show and pitch this whole thing about 303 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:00.840 South Carolina? And so we moved the family to come 304 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.279 here and and it was you know, it is really 305 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:05.600 a family, you know, with him and his family and 306 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:06.480 other people. 307 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:08.440 Uh happy. How does it work? Like just so like 308 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:11.840 when you start from an idea, how does an episode 309 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:12.440 get written? 310 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:12.960 Like? 311 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:14.759 How does it give us the detail? 312 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:18.639 I guess you start, I mean you start with anything, right, 313 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:20.960 You start with kind of like what are you trying 314 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.279 to do in the series? Right? What's this year about? 315 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:26.039 And really it just starts out as kind of like 316 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:29.559 really just a big idea, and then you kind of 317 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:31.919 just focus it down and really you try to generate 318 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:36.960 storylines for all the lead characters, and so you know, 319 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:40.919 some episodes might be heavier and some of those main 320 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.879 character storylines and or some of them if a main 321 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:47.799 the best is when you have a main storyline that 322 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:51.919 affects them all, you know, like, you know, the best 323 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:54.440 moment I could you know example I could give you 324 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.559 is like in season two, they show up at this 325 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:01.840 New York Time Jason Schwartzman's little place that he's like 326 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:05.400 a New York Times article writer doing a piece on them, 327 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:07.839 and they slip in his blood and fall, you know, 328 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:09.559 and they run out and get in the tesla. Like 329 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:12.480 that's when the show for me works its best. But 330 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:14.759 you know, when you break it down, you really just 331 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.640 kind of need, like you know, before you start like 332 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:21.799 writing dialogue or writing out the script, you just kind 333 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:24.680 of have to outline what the stories are and what 334 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:26.160 the arcs are for the season. 335 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:28.400 How long does that take? 336 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:29.920 How many lot of energy? 337 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.480 Because I think I don't think people understand how much 338 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.480 time it takes to do what you guys do. 339 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.039 We you know, we uh, you know, we're lucky enough 340 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:44.200 to have you know, Danny likes to like really go 341 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:47.200 down a lot of roads. And so for example, this 342 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:50.680 year on season four, we started right at the beginning 343 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:54.480 of January and we finished in about June, so it's 344 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:58.240 about six months. But it's only nine thirty minute episodes. 345 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:00.920 Now some may go longer, some might be forty five 346 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:03.720 minutes that might before, but generally speaking, it's about a 347 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:08.880 half hour show. And so you know, you're good six 348 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:12.400 months on nine half hour episodes now in contrast to 349 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:15.079 what people might see, let's say like a multi camera 350 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.400 sitcom like like Frasier, where you shoot like twenty two 351 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:23.359 or twenty four episodes of half hour you have about 352 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:26.319 you know, six to eight months to write those. We 353 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.960 take you know a lot of time only because we 354 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.480 go down a lot of roads. You know, we like 355 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:35.559 to try different roads out. So we go through and 356 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.000 write you know a lot of scripts and go down 357 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:42.200 a lot of storylines that are dead ends, and we're 358 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:46.240 not afraid to, uh, to just start over, you know, 359 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:46.599 like to. 360 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:48.799 Give us a dead end case if you don't mind 361 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.039 sharing if you can, I understand, but like a dead 362 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.359 end of what like for example, like you guys had 363 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.759 this great idea and you were trying to get it. 364 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:01.599 And oh, oh for an example, yeah example, yeah, like 365 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:04.680 you know, I think it won one for this season. 366 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:07.359 We had an episode where Jesse was going to get 367 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:10.000 pulled over or he did get pulled over, and you know, 368 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:13.680 he ends up getting arrested and evades the cop and 369 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.519 you know, we're like, what can happen from that? And like, 370 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:19.160 you know, do we get the sheriff involved in the 371 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:22.640 power of the gemstone? You know what, like do they 372 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:25.920 squash this guy? And did this guy get fired? And 373 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:28.480 as he come back as like a villain? Like again, 374 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:32.160 those are for an example, let's try and and play 375 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:34.799 that out, you know. But sometimes if you have a 376 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:37.359 storyline like the one I just pitched out and it 377 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:41.839 goes down a road that maybe doesn't affect some of 378 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:44.759 the other siblings that you know, you don't want to 379 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:49.119 necessarily write storylines that kind of deviate from what I 380 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:51.720 explained about earlier, which would be the kind of like 381 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.279 have storylines that trigger the whole like the siblings, the 382 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:57.480 three siblings. 383 00:19:57.079 --> 00:19:59.079 Right right, because that's when they're at their best. 384 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:03.240 That's what that's their best, so you know, but sometimes 385 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:05.559 you know it can you know, maybe we could figure 386 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:07.519 out how that could affect all three of them. So, 387 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:09.960 you know, we wrote a lot of scenes that were 388 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:12.680 really funny. Danny wrote a great scene that I was 389 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:17.240 just talking about about Jesse and uh and it was 390 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:19.200 really good. We really wanted to keep it, and we 391 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:22.960 kept it for a really long time and and Hopefully 392 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.279 we don't have to use it again because I'm telling 393 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:30.640 everybody about you know, but that's an example of going 394 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:34.440 down roads. But like it was because this great kind 395 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:37.480 of like episode or scene was written that kind of 396 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.200 elicited some like, you know, a deeper story, and so 397 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.559 we try to navigate those what those story turns could generate. 398 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.000 Maybe they generate like a good villain or a bad guy, 399 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:50.920 or a funny character so or funny situation. So it's 400 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:55.359 really just trying to you know, stimulate our creative energy 401 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:56.839