WEBVTT 1 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:33.119 Welcome back to the Taylors of Tech podcast with your 2 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:36.880 host Mike. Hello, how's it going. You might notice that 3 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.359 for those that are watching the video, there is no 4 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:42.280 video portion of the podcast this week, and that's because 5 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:45.119 I'm here with a guest. And the guest I have 6 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:48.320 today is a special one one that I hold in 7 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:53.880 high esteem and that I care about a lot, My wife, Carrie. 8 00:00:53.960 --> 00:01:01.359 How's it going? Hey, everybody, Carrie hasn't really been on 9 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:05.120 many podcasts or really much recording, because I think you're 10 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:10.319 maybe on the TV once or twice, but otherwise this 11 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:11.359 is sort of new to you. 12 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:14.959 Yeah. I think this is my first podcast ever. 13 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.879 Yeah. Unfortunately, Drew and Randy were busy this week, so 14 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:22.319 you've got me and Carrie for this one. And so 15 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:25.799 I thought that we would maybe talk about some technology 16 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:28.680 that we've gone through in our lives, kind of growing 17 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:32.239 up in the early or mid nineties and seeing how 18 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.519 things have progressed, but mainly kind of working our way 19 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:39.239 up to today and what we use in technology, because well, 20 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:42.799 it's kind of interesting hearing what other people have used, 21 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:45.079 what they've been exposed to, what kind of phones that 22 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:47.079 they grew up with, what was their favorite phone and 23 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:49.719 all that, So that'd be somewhat simple and easy for you, 24 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.680 since you're not really the biggest tech guru that I 25 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:54.239 know around. 26 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:57.840 I am not the biggest tech guru. This is true. 27 00:01:57.879 --> 00:01:59.959 You are the tech guru of the two of us. 28 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.959 Yeah, do you remember the first technology or piece of 29 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:04.879 technology that you ever interacted with? 30 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:12.080 Well, we had a regular TV growing. 31 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:15.759 Up, was a regular TV, so we my parents had 32 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:20.319 a box TV. It was ginormous and heavy and it 33 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:25.080 had this huge TV stand that it set in. Quality 34 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:28.360 was terrible, but as kids, it was pretty. It seemed 35 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:35.000 big and was cool. And then my parents had a computer, 36 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:38.919 but it was one of the old monitors, so it 37 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:43.400 was this giant cube. And then the computer itself was 38 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:48.400 like I don't know, it must have been like a 39 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:52.719 foot and a half by like tall by six inches 40 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:53.919 wide and. 41 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:55.719 More than that, I don't know. 42 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:58.240 It was like it was big, a big, chunky CRT 43 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:00.719 Dell monitor or something like that. 44 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:02.520 Well, there was the monitor and then there was like 45 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:06.560 the computer itself. Either way, both of them were way. 46 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:08.039 They were both huge. 47 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:09.080 It was very beige. 48 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:10.240 It was beige. 49 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:14.520 It was like a beige white color and collected dust 50 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.960 really easily. Because the top of it had little air 51 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:18.840 holes to ventilate it. 52 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:21.599 Yeah, not really the best idea putting air holes on 53 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:25.719 the top, especially in a dusty environment where things could 54 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:28.159 just get into there and cause issues. 55 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:31.000 Yeah, and it always did because it was stuffed into 56 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:33.879 the desk that we had, which the desk had kind 57 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:37.599 of this top tier thing, so it wasn't very reachable 58 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:40.719 and so there was like dust collection and things like that. 59 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:42.960 Top tier being like a shelf or an overhang or 60 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:43.560 something like that. 61 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.680 Yeah, okay, kind of like a shelving unit that it 62 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:47.919 sat in with a desk. 63 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.039 Okay, So it sounds like a lot of boxy stuff 64 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.560 at the beginning of your life that you remember a. 65 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:54.520 Lot of boxy stuff. 66 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.879 And when the internet would go out, we'd have that 67 00:03:56.919 --> 00:04:00.919 traditional dial up that would. 68 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.960 Ring through the house, the whole entire house pretty much. 69 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:05.080 You could hear it. 70 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:04.879 It was. 71 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:05.680 It was loud. 72 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.240 So did you have a separate line or was it 73 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:10.960 just one line that you would disconnect from the phone 74 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:13.319 into the computer or. 75 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:15.800 I'm not sure. 76 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:19.839 Yeah, probably not something you'd remember entirely. Yeah, it's probably 77 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:21.720 something your parents remember very vividly. 78 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:25.040 Yeah, probably they probably remember, but I can't I was 79 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:27.120 too young, sure. 80 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:29.720 And I guess you didn't really watch too much TV 81 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:31.399 on that big television, or. 82 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:33.800 We did not because we had bunny ears. 83 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:38.240 For for those that don't know what bunny ears are 84 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:42.000 in some of maybe those old classic cartoons or anything else. 85 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.399 The almost like what you see on old cars on 86 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:52.360 the road today, it's pretty much two antennas either kind 87 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:56.160 of like a stick slash probe or even in some 88 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:58.439 case it looks like bunny ears. It's a looped piece 89 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:03.920 of metal, two loops of metal, and you would adjust 90 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:08.879 them to try to get a signal out to whatever 91 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:13.120 towers or satellites or anything else that's trying to communicate 92 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:16.560 with to get a signal to the display in which 93 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:18.920 did you have just the sticks or did you have 94 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:19.720 actual loops? 95 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:23.360 It was just the sticks, okay, And. 96 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:27.959 I think we got about four channels. Four channels, so 97 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:31.079 we did not have cable TV. We just stuck with 98 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:34.959 the bunny ears, which my parents still have only four 99 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:35.920 channels today. 100 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:38.879 They don't currently have cable What. 101 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:40.639 Years it again, twenty twenty four. 102 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:44.959 They do streaming, They do streaming, but they. 103 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:47.480 They have internet now, they. 104 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:52.079 Have internet, but they still only get I think for 105 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:54.319 maybe five channels and. 106 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.480 Jeez, yeah, I remember the last time I went to 107 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:01.279 your parents and they just got that new Internet And 108 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:04.959 it's like that direct line of site type of system 109 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:08.160 where it's pretty much a dish that you have set 110 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.079 up by someone or you can set up, and then 111 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:15.399 you are either instructed or the person who's installing it 112 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:19.480 figures out what direction the tower is that this company 113 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:23.560 owns or is using. Yeah, and you point as much 114 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:27.160 as you can directly, hopefully there's no trees in the 115 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:32.079 way to that tower, and so then that way, it's 116 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:36.240 a direct line of site quote unquote signal that allows 117 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.519 you to have this wireless internet system without having to 118 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:46.279 take cables all the way down long swaths of roadway 119 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.600 or forests or anything else and pay that much just 120 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:53.240 to give someone an Internet connection. Yeah. 121 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.879 And for reference, my parents do live somewhat in the 122 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:57.759 middle of nowhere, so that's a good. 123 00:06:57.560 --> 00:06:58.759 Option for them. 124 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:05.040 Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, And I guess why I brit 125 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:07.879 it up as interesting comparing that to what we were 126 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:10.800 using at the time, being starlink, where it was kind 127 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:14.560 of the same idea of it's a line of sight scenario, 128 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.399 but instead of trying to connect to a tower, not 129 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:24.079 like maybe a mile or two away. It's now trying 130 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:29.480 to beam up a signal from space. Did you like 131 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:31.360 our starlink? I guess a little tangent. 132 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.680 I which which one? 133 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:40.319 Which the one that we have at home. 134 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:45.680 I like it, but it was kind of slow for 135 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:49.759 some of the things that you use it for. But 136 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:53.920 it seemed to do like pretty decent with streaming, which 137 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:57.240 I think is a majority of what you and I 138 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:58.879 probably use it for. 139 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:01.720 Yeah, typically we sit on the couch in the evenings 140 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:03.199 and watch whatever. 141 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:06.079 That and just having our phones connected to it so 142 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:07.360 we're able to have service. 143 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.920 Right. We've had a couple of repair guys out recently, 144 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:13.800 and each time that they come out they say, there's 145 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:15.360 not really any signal out here. 146 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:15.879 Yeah. 147 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:19.720 I gets slightly disgruntled, and then we pretty much just 148 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:22.759 have to echo the same thing that you just said is, Yeah, 149 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:25.000 that's why we got the internet so we can stay 150 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:28.279 connected still, which seems like our our lives are very 151 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.519 much connected to the Internet. It almost seems like it's 152 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:36.000 a public utility now instead of novelty. 153 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:40.519 Yeah, and it would still like it because it's not 154 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.799 It wasn't fiber. If the power went out and we 155 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:50.559 could still use the internet like with with alternate means. 156 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:55.519 But right it was no longer uh we're not. When 157 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:59.039 we had startlink, it wasn't dependent on two systems that 158 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:03.960 are wire based. Yeah, one was Internet or I guess 159 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:08.399 dish base, and it just needed power while the power 160 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.399 needed well a connection pretty much. 161 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.240 But I mean it was slow doing certain things, but 162 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:19.519 seemed to work decently. 163 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:24.360 The downside I think for us is the trees. 164 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:27.159 Yeah, we have a couple of trees on our property 165 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:29.399 that tend to be a little bit of an issue. 166 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:32.720 Yeah, so that I think that line of sight made 167 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:34.000 it a little bit difficult. 168 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:37.039 Yeah, it doesn't really work for everyone, right, Yeah, for 169 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.960 those that either are in cities for some reason that 170 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:44.399 need starlink but there's adjacent buildings there in the way, 171 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:47.200 or I guess I think trees is probably a better example. 172 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:50.559 Is especially those that are either in the suburbs or 173 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:52.440 maybe not even in the suburbs, kind of out in 174 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.639 the sticks, but there's still either some heritage trees or 175 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:59.240 just trying to get approval to get trees removed in 176 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.080 some of these sticky situations can be an issue. But 177 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:05.159 you need internet or at least you want internet that 178 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:10.159 provides better speeds, right, But in many other people's cases, 179 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:13.120 those that don't live in the desert, they have to 180 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.919 deal with foliage or at least if you're living right 181 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:22.480 by a mountain or just some weird complex topography, just 182 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:28.759 how much line of sight or skyview the Starlin kaz. 183 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.159 The other thing was the setup for it. 184 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:34.960 Trying to find a place on the roof that we 185 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.679 could put it where it would be able to see, 186 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.000 and then taking the line from outside and bringing it 187 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:44.159 inside to the router was kind of a hassle. 188 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:48.559 That is the complicated part, trying to get the outside 189 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:54.039 things in without cutting holes too large or through already 190 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.240 openable orifices in the house like windows or doors. 191 00:10:57.399 --> 00:10:58.360 Yeah, I think what we. 192 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:00.759 Did worked probably best because we didn't have to drill 193 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:02.960 any holes into No. 194 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:07.919 There was actually some stuff that was already utilized in 195 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:12.720 our house. I guess the previous tenant had a dish 196 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.240 like for dish TV, and so we're able to utilize 197 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:18.799 a lot of the holes that they already drilled. Yeah, 198 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.240 and just PLoP in the Starlink cable, which was a 199 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:26.200 little bit bigger. At least on the end, Starling didn't 200 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.480 really make it easy for the end to get through 201 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:30.159 these holes. 202 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:34.399 Yeah, the plug was larger, like, yeah, the head of 203 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:35.080 it or whatever. 204 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.759 So you'd make the hole big enough just to put 205 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.279 the plug through, and then the rest of the wires like, oh, 206 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:44.440 you can put two of these wires in this hole. Yeah, 207 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:46.919 kind of an annoyance. I think Drew had the same 208 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:51.080 issue when they started with the Gen one starlink dish. 209 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:54.879 The plugs you had to pretty much drill out a 210 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.559 hole that was big enough for those plugs. I think 211 00:11:57.600 --> 00:11:59.399 on the Gen ones it was even a bigger plug. 212 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:04.759 Yeah, And I think that, like the mounting was difficult 213 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:06.879 for us because we ended up not actually mounting it 214 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:07.399 to the roof. 215 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:09.799 Yeah. We just let it sit on there and then 216 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:12.960 put some sandbags on it, hoping it would slide off. 217 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:14.879 On its legs. Yeah. 218 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:18.240 Yeah, yeah, not on the dishpart. Yeah, that'd be a 219 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:19.879 little bit hard for it to get a signal. 220 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:21.879 There just wasn't a good place. 221 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.399 That was part of the placement problem was there wasn't 222 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:27.120 a good place for us to put it where it 223 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:30.240 had the line of sight and it could be propped 224 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:31.039 up with. 225 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:36.879 Some sort of mount Yeah. So I guess maybe I 226 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:40.360 guess we'll continue on this conversational tangent that we're on. 227 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:42.639 What do you think of our fiber in it that 228 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:43.320 we have now? 229 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:48.039 I like it. 230 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:52.879 It didn't really change anything for me personally because I 231 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:58.759 don't use I really don't use that much internet, so 232 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:02.720 that was nice. What was also nice is if they 233 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:07.799 installed everything. Like with starlink, we had to install all 234 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:10.440 the you know, the wires and cables and different things, 235 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:12.360 but with the fiber, they came out and installed it, 236 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:13.759 which was nice. 237 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:15.960 Yeah, it was nice not being the installer this time, 238 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.120 not having to do all that work and do all 239 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:21.120 the research and figure it all out in troubleshoot. It 240 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.799 just coming from a company that I guess we are 241 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:30.519 used before for cable, right, it's quite easy just to well, 242 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:33.200 the connection was alri pretty much. Well it wasn't already there, 243 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.960 but they they already had a line coming here before, 244 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:38.200 so it's easy for them just to follow that same 245 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:39.720 path that they had to our house. 246 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:40.200 Right. 247 00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:43.480 I think for you it's been hugely beneficial to have 248 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:45.960 the fiber versus the starlink. 249 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.399 Yeah. It makes podcasts like this possible. Though I guess 250 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:51.519 this one's not video based, so it'll go up a 251 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:54.720 bit quicker with whatever I put on for video watchers, 252 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:59.360 but for audio listeners it was never really an issue 253 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:02.200 in the first place. Those would usually upload pretty quickly. 254 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:06.000 But yeah, I do appreciate the fiber a lot more, 255 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.960 even for trying to game online. Sometimes with my buddy, 256 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:14.919 we would play Halo and all that with starlink and 257 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:17.519 he would tell me I'd glitch around a bunch, But 258 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:21.000 now I don't really glitch around. Instead. Well, I guess 259 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:24.080 the servers sometimes have issues, but otherwise it's not my connection, 260 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.840 which is great. It's nice not having that barrier. 261 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:29.720 Yeah, I think it makes it a lot easier. 262 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:34.879 Agreed. So going back to your time with technology, So 263 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:37.679 you remember the first devices that you had, being a 264 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:43.919 big square TV and a big beige motter with holes 265 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.399 on the top and all that. What was the first 266 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:50.039 technology that I guess you owned for yourself. I guess 267 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:53.799 that'd maybe be an iPod or a phone or something 268 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:54.159 like that. 269 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:57.919 No, so I had a DS. 270 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:01.159 A Nintendo DS. Yes, okay, I don't think I know 271 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:01.600 about this. 272 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:05.679 I didn't use it a ton, but it was the one. 273 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.080 I don't even know what it was. You flip it open, 274 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:09.240 it has a screen on the top. 275 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.000 In the bottom that's Nintendo DS. Was it silver? Yeah, okay, well, 276 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:15.360 I guess there's silver, blue, and I think pink at 277 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:17.519 the time, maybe, but it. 278 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:20.440 Was silver, And I think I had like a handful 279 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.000 of games and a carrying case for it. 280 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:26.960 Is there a specific game that you'd play on it? 281 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:33.600 There was Is It Treasure Planet? That movie? That cartoon 282 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:36.440 It came out like probably twenty years ago. 283 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:41.279 Well, don't make me feel too old. I mean, I 284 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.440 guess us too old, but even so so, there's a. 285 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:46.600 Is It Treasure Planet? I think? Is the movie? 286 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:49.440 I'm sure? Yeah, the guy that kind of has the 287 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:52.879 middle part in his hair, right, it's brown, and then 288 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:55.480 there's like some captain with a big arm and then 289 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:57.399 some pink goo thing. 290 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:02.080 Yeah. Yeah, there was a game for that movie, and 291 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:05.919 I think I played that one probably the most. I 292 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:09.639 think there were some other ones, but I don't remember 293 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:13.399 what they were, so I probably didn't play them very much. 294 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:16.840 Okay, but that was the first piece of technology that 295 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:20.120 you owned that you remember carrying around or at least 296 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:21.360 having in your possession. 297 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:25.679 Yeah, yeah, and I played it, you know a little bit, 298 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:28.840 but I don't think I was ever super attached to it, 299 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:30.639 like I had to have it or I played it 300 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:31.320 every day. 301 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:37.039 It was just kind of like, I don't know, I wasn't. 302 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:40.240 As into it. Ah. Yeah, that's where we differ. I 303 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:43.120 was very much attached to the hip with every single thing. 304 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:47.480 When I got my game Boy, it was just it 305 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:49.879 was amazing with the idea that I can take this 306 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:52.919 around with me. Though I don't think I took it 307 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:54.960 to like grocery stores when my mom took me to 308 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:59.360 grocery stores for grocery shopping. But I do remember just 309 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:03.240 the the wonder of the fact that I could take 310 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.240 this device or wherever. I guess mainly where i'd play 311 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:06.880 it is in the car. 312 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:10.839 Yeah, I definitely could see you being attached to your 313 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:12.960 technology even at that age. 314 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:15.799 It's yeah. I think the first piece of technology I 315 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:21.079 remember interacting with is my mom's old G three Mac 316 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:25.759 kind of like if you remember, we had the upgraded 317 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.440 quote unquote upgrade, the next gen version of the iMac, 318 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:34.720 the green one that I bought yep and gave that 319 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:37.400 to Mom as a second home gift, and all that 320 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:41.480 second home gift being she was wanting a new Mac 321 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:45.960 and I wanted to replace the iMac because I wanted 322 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:49.319 something a little bit nicer and newer, and so second 323 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:53.039 home being it's got its new second life, right, second 324 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:56.960 owner and all that. What am I getting out with this? 325 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:00.160 But yeah, the G three iMac, the original one, and 326 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.759 I remember mom having one. I think it was blue. 327 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:06.319 I remember interacting with that as I think my first 328 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:11.880 piece of tech like TV existed, right, but something that 329 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.000 you actually do in put an output with the computer 330 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:19.920 was definitely that thing in our lives. But yeah, I 331 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:22.759 think I I was attached to my DS, but I 332 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:25.480 don't think it was. I don't think it was the 333 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:30.480 first device they had on me. But okay, so when 334 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.519 did you get your first phone then, and what phone 335 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:36.240 was that? Did you start with a flip. 336 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:37.759 Phone or so? 337 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.599 My first phone was a flip phone. It did not 338 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:45.279 have a camera on it, okay, and you had to 339 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:49.599 buy minutes for it. Oh it's one of those phones. 340 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.119 Well one of those plans, one of those plans. So 341 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:56.519 you had like a certain you know, certain amount of 342 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.200 calls and text you could send, and of course, because 343 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:02.519 it's a flip phone, you're texting would be like three clicks, 344 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:05.640 one click, three clicks to get to whatever letter you wanted, 345 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:08.880 and it took forever to write out what you were saying. 346 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:11.200 But I didn't have very many people I was texting 347 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:14.680 at that time because it wasn't it wasn't really a 348 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:16.000 thing that people did yet. 349 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:17.559 Well, you didn't really have like that much of a 350 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:20.440 social life, right, Yeah, I mean you had your friends 351 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.400 at school, but maybe not all of them had cell phones. 352 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:27.480 And also the world wasn't really surrounded by this much 353 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:30.279 technology fitting in your pocket. 354 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:32.920 Yeah, and it was the phone that I got was 355 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:38.119 like my aunt's leftover phone that was you know, it 356 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:40.119 wasn't like a brand new phone that I got. It 357 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.680 was like a hand me down phone, and I was 358 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.880 just happy to have some form of a phone because 359 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.279 it was pretty cool. 360 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:52.720 So I think it was like blue and silver. I 361 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:54.160 don't know what brand it was. 362 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:56.680 Was it kind of traditional where you had the single 363 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.000 thick hinge on the top and then you'd flip it 364 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:01.680 open with your thumb pretty much. 365 00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:03.319 But it was small, I mean as far as like 366 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:04.519 something handheld goes. 367 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:07.480 It was just just any bitty Yeah. 368 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:10.519 Sure wasn't huge. Yeah, things didn't really get too big 369 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:14.359 at that point yet. But I guess we worked from 370 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:17.000 this is a little bit past our time. I think 371 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:20.519 original cell phones that had a whole entire satchel, yeah, 372 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:24.279 that you would wear on your side, very big piece 373 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:27.079 of technology, and they finally got it eventually to a 374 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:31.440 miniature size for the consumer, but still had a decent 375 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:36.279 amount of battery life and uh, just feasibility for whatever 376 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:38.279 use cases that you had, which is pretty much. It 377 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.039 wasn't even texting was like, that wasn't the focus at 378 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:42.920 the time. It was being able to call someone. 379 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:44.519 Yeah. 380 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.880 And then I think at that time too, like you know, 381 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:51.799 my mom had kind of like a similar, you know, 382 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:58.880 flip phone, but hers had a camera, and. 383 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:59.519 So was that something that you really wanted after seeing 384 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:00.880 what your mom had and what you had? 385 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:01.480 Not? 386 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:04.039 Really it wasn't like, oh man, I have to have 387 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:05.880 the phone, but I will be honest, I really did 388 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:08.039 want a camera on the phone just so I could 389 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:12.160 take pictures of like I don't even know, just random 390 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:19.279 things like our pets or like a plant, which you know, 391 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:23.559 those picture qualities were awful, you know, the camera quality 392 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:25.279 was just terrible. 393 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:29.000 I'd say, yeah, you gotta give a little credit to 394 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:29.960 those little things. 395 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:32.799 I mean, for the time being, it was really impressive, 396 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.519 but they were just highly pixelated and they took forever 397 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:37.119 to load. 398 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:42.000 Once you got what either you sent or got a photo, it. 399 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:44.920 Have the little like line by line and or the 400 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:46.920 loading loading circle. 401 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:50.680