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and sustainability times Saxson College Football. In this segment, one

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of the key questions of the day, I think for

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BYU fans has been who's gonna be the new defensive coordinator,

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who's gonna be a new quarterbacks coach, who's gonna be

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the new safety's coach there at Brigham Young University. We'll

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maybe get into some of that here Momentarily. I won't

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give you my thoughts my commentary to it, but I

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also want to discuss a couple of things that college

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football insiders have been putting out and those that are

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representing the athletic I believe Bruce Feldman put out an

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article and it rings true for everyone that has discussed

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just how the SEC the Mighty have fallen from grace.

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Bruce Feldman tweets this and I quote this is a

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I think this is a Big ten coach, anonymous big

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ten coach. Hard to ignore the fact that when everybody

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got to pay players, it leveled the playing field immediately.

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They can deny all they want, but that's a fact.

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Bruce Feldman says, I'm looking forward to joining Paul Feinbaum

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at four pm Easter Time on the SEC networks to

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discuss the story on the SEC. The SEC's abysmal ball record.

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That's right, the dismal ball record this season points to

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the fundamental truth. Money matters ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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and that's what I'm getting at here. The SEC build

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its brand off of bag men. When you build a

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brand off of cheating, lying, stealing, filthy luke or cash

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and you're not allowing anybody else to cheat, or you

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just cheat better than everybody else, that's a problem. So

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that's why the SEC is realing. That's why Nick Saban retired.

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That's why this travesty of the College Football Playoff in

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twenty twenty five of including five SEC teams, is just ridiculous.

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The SEC's disimal bull record this season points to that

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fundamental truth. Yes, money matters, but cheating occurred for too

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long in the SEC. It just means more there. What

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does that mean? It means they're willing to send money

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and cheat while others are trying to their best to

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abide by the rules. Okay, several coaches the Athletics spoke

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to this weekend weren't shocked that Indiana handled Alabama. After all,

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the Hoosiers were almost a double digit favor it was

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how the game unfolded. They mauled the tie thirty eight

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to three, out rushing them two hundred and fifteen yards

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to twenty three. That ain't in Alabama defense, said a

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powerful offensive coordinator who used one of the most damning

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words a coach can evoke about another football team. Soft. Ultimately,

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the coach continued, and this is y'all's job, not my job,

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But there needs to be an evaluation of this narrative

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of the SEC is these big and bad mother lovers

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right because they're getting their butts whipped in these games?

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Is that true? The playoffs finals January eighth, the ninth

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featured two Big Ten teams Indiana and Oregon, one ACC

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team Miami, and one SEC team all missed. More broadly

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across bowl games, it just means more slogan in their

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conference is at the bottom of the Power four league

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records right now, trailing the Big Ten who's nine and four,

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ACC eight and four in the Big Twelve four and four.

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In bowl games. Through the weekend, the SEC was two

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and seven against teams from other conferences. The SEC team

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was favored in seven of those nine games. The SEC

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is four and nine over all this ball season. Five

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years ago, when Alabama blew out Ohios Date fifty two

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to twenty four in the national title game, the SEC

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went seven to two, while the Big Ten went three

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and two. The ACC was owed six, the Big Twelve

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was five and oh The year before, when LSU beat

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Clemson to win the title, the SEC was eight and two,

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the Big Ten was four and five, the Big Twelve

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was one and five, and the ACC was four and seven.

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The data is in our arguable the SEC has fallen

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from grace. They have fallen because they don't have the

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filthy lucer anymore. They don't have the filthy lucre advantage anymore.

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It wasn't surprising to see the SEC consistently winning when

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it faced teams from other leagues, when it had a

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run of winning thirteen of seventeen national titles from two

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thousand and six to twenty twenty two. But the seismic

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shift had begun to take place in the sport right

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twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, the transfer

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portal nil. As everyone started to figure it out, as

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donors came around to boowye up these individual programs, the

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likes of SMU BYU Boise State, Texas Tech. All these

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teams look at Indiana, look at Indiana as a prime

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example of what and we'll miss prime examples of what

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can happen when the other teams get to play by

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the same rules. College football capitalism, the free market of

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college football, is actually improving the overall product of the

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little guy, the ones that didn't have a chance to

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win and cheat like the big boys. The crazy thing,

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and I keep on saying it the brand equity over

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the last twenty years of the SEC has been built

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through Bagman, not due to meritocracy, not due to fairness,

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not due to anything other than cheating. The world that

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has been created through Nil Revshaer and the portal that

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we operate in now has erased the limitations to a

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certain level. That's what coach Bilma told the Athletic on Saturday,

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a few days after his ALIGNI defeated Tennessee and the

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Music City ball I know this before, I know this

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before I came here. We'd never beaten an SEC team

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in our history, and now we've beaten two back to

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back in bowl games. That's the fighting a line of it.

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That's your squad. Ronald three man Weaver is my squad.

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SEC teams. Now. Isn't it nice to see an even

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playing field.

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Speaker 3: It is very nice to finally see even playing field.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy about it been a lot of people might

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say nothing, but this is the question that's being discussed

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that we're having discussions about. It's no longer the SEC been.

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It's no longer that that has to go away, and

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look they're starting to deplete themselves.

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Speaker 3: It used to be pure.

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Speaker 4: And other dominance, but that's no longer it it's the

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Big ten right now because they won the last couple

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of national championships, and even then the SEC the other

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teams in those conferences, like the Vanderbilts are making pushes,

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starting to win now and recruiting.

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Speaker 3: The Tennessee's a little bit.

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Speaker 4: There are other programs, the BYUS, the Big Twelves, Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: It's going away and I love that. It's an even

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Speaker 4: And that's the problem of why coaches like Saban retired,

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Belichick probably gonna head back to the NFL. I think,

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in my opinion, is because they can't, you know more

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like the Sabans coach oh might come back, but they

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don't want to.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to fight anymore. You don't want to fight.

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You don't want to see that. Look Climbate retire. That

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was crazy to Chris Secris climbing. He's like, I don't

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got it anymore.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's all a it's tough for coaches now

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to compete with the NIL and with that, if you're

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not young, if you're not live, if you don't have

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a good culture, if you're older and you just want

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it to be the old fashioned way.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't go that way. It doesn't.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna switch things up to Ben just to give

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you a program that we're gonna call Brady and then

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Aaron Tours in the next segment. But before I do,

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I need to hit this button. You're gonna be happy

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about this. I'm gonna have some breaking news to announce.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for me breaking?

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Speaker 3: I do have breaking news.

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Speaker 4: Isaiah Jodavin has officially declared for I think the NFL Draft.

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You put this out about seven minutes ago. First, I

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thank God the guy. It's protection blessing that made this

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journey possible. Through every challenge, transition, moment of growth. His

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presence carried me and kept me loved that He's thinking God.

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Starting at San Diego State took my eye, took my path,

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took me places I never imagined. From Snow College to

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University of Colorado and especially Brigham Young University, each stops

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shaped me in ways that is beyond football. I'm deeply

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grateful for every coaching staff member who believed in me

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and supported me through my college career. To my family,

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thank you for always loving me and standing through every

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step through this process. I'm forever grateful for the sacrifices

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you've made and to you poured into me to submort

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my dreams. To Kugarnation, thank you for welcoming me with

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open arms and showing me incredible family culture. To the energy, passion,

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support or felt every step of the way.

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Speaker 3: To my brothers.

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Speaker 4: I'm blessed by the bond we built and the standard

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we've maintained. The hard work, the commitment, the laughs, and

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the moments that brought us together meant everything. The memories

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will last forever. With that being said, I will be

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declaring for the twenty twenty six NFL draft Isaiah.

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Speaker 2: Jada Well, and some people are like, well, yeah, I say,

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Jod is a senior, why would he be able to

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come back. Remember, if you want to hire a lawyer,

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employ a law firm, legal representation. Because you are a

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junior college former player, you can try to get a

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year or two back. John Towmipeyu went to Twitter and said, look,

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hey guys, I need some help. I need some resources. Skugarnation,

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if there's anybody that can help me, I want. I

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want to get my junior college year back. John tell

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we pay you played at Snow College as did Isaiah.

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He played two seasons. Isaiah did at junior college Snow

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and former BYU wide receiver defensive back Zach Erickson. He

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then ended up transferring to Colorado, played in eleven games,

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appeared in eleven games at Colorado on twenty twenty three,

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and then essentially red shirt into twenty twenty four at BYU,

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playing in the last few games, but ended up getting

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a red shirt season and then came back for twenty

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twenty five. So technical his Uh, his eligibility is exhausted.

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played two seasons at Snow Junior College. Should be able

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to get a year back. That's why he's making the announcement. Uh,

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let's discuss this a little bit further with a former

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b YU great and a Super Bowl champion. We got

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Brady Papinga on the line. Be Pop, How you living?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Guys? How you doing? Always fund to jump on.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's a pleasure man. What do you make of

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h of Junior Cup former junior college players like Diego

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Pod the hiring law firms to receive an additional year

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or two of eligibility. Is that fair because these were

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not n C Double A players, they're NJC Double A players.

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What do you make of this?

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Speaker 5: I love it. Anything you can do to play, as

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long as you can do it, I don't have any

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problem with I think that's great. I think I think

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there's a there's a very very strong argument to be

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made there because it's basically like two different divisions. It's

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like those kids, a lot of those these coast kids,

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for example, they'll go to a prep school and then

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they'll go to a like a college university, right, and

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they don't count that prep school as any kind of

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eligibility occupier. They don't, you know, the clock doesn't start

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to take. So I don't see any problem with it

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at all. I think it's a great idea. And if

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you have the funds and the resources necessary to go

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after the kind of language, I mean, that's what the

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trying to pigeonhole us as student athletes to not pay us.

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So let's just keep it going. So I have no problem. Man,

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if you could play for ten years in college football,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you think there should be a cap

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on college football eligibility in any way, shape or form,

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and what is that ideal number.

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know why, you just couldn't, you know, play for ten

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cap as long as you're studying and contributing to the

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universe and participate in the university in that sense of

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like higher education and everything. I don't see the problem

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with that. I don't know. I mean, I know why

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they were always you know, the eligibility rules and all

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those kinds of things. I get it. I mean that's

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tied to school because they want to again to make

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sure everybody knew we were student athletes. But now that's

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not the case. We're professionals for their professionals. Yeah, and

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we were professionals too. We just get get compensated. So

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so I don't know why they're be any limits. I mean,

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just let these guys do whatever they got to do.

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But I don't think things are going to change that radically.

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But I have no problem with guys trying to play

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as long as they can and call it the pros.

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Whatever they got to do, it's fine.

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Speaker 2: Well, it looks like John taym mupay who's trying to

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get his year back Isaiah John has declared for the

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NFL Draft. How pivotal would it be? How impactful would

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it be to get JT back in the BYU Cougar

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football fall next season?

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Speaker 5: Oh, it'd be huge, because that's that's the key of

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what we do, you know, and what we've always done

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as a defense is you got to go inside out

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starts those two big guys occupying blocks, push in the pocket,

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wreaking habit have it. You know, we had a good

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success of those two last year. I thought they were

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really really good. And uh, man, if they could keep

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building off of that and just take another step forward

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this next year and you add some more guys to

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that fold, I mean, that just creates so many opportunities

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for your edge guys, for off the ball guys, or

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coverage on the back end, safety's and corners. It makes

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the whole ship go and makes the whole machine turn. Man,

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get those big guys going, and so anything we can

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do to get guys like JT, keep guys like JT,

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and keep developing them. Yes, we want that, That's what

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we're all about.

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Speaker 2: Would love He kind of reminds me of Travis twey Loma.

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I think I've talked to you about that before, But

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I mean, he's he'd be a massive get. He's a

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little silver back guerrilla. And I could make an argument

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that JT was the most disruptive defensive lineman this season.

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Speaker 5: In Teier Wise, Yeah, he was one of our top guys,

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and I was. I would say there was a few

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games there. I forget the exact games where he was

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like the defensive MVP in terms of wreaking Havoc, making plays,

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ripping off blocks. And by the way, I'm not trying

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to throw him under the bus. Our whole defense really

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came out flat against Georgia Tech. But when he started

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to rip off blocks recavoc blowback, that's when our defense

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started really causing Jeuri de Tech problems. And that was

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a theme throughout every every game every team we played.

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Was he was the spear, you know, the tip of

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the spear, him and him and a ton of of

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and so, like I said, get more of those gas.

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We need more of those guys, and I know Klanne

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and the Cruise on the recruiting transfer portal trail trying

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to get those guys and the scheme that the that

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they run is perfect for these guys. These guys can

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hit gaps slant. They're not just sitting there two gap

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in the whole time, which means you're right in front

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of the offensive lineman. You kind of absorbed by the

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way when you're two gap and because you're responsible for

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both sides of the offensive lineman for versus where you're

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line up in a gap and you're just owning that gap,

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that's a that's a good deal to be in. And

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then you're there's a lot of different configuration. So there's

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not a time really where an offensive lineman can just

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kind of get into a rhythm of where you're gonna be,

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what you're gonna do, And that's avantageous for a defense.

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So I would, like I said, if I'm a defensive lineman, man,

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I would love to play in this scheme to where

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you're gonna be moving, shooting gaps, playing with your head on,

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hair on fire, blowing things up, freaking havoc. That's what

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you want. You're not gonna be sitting back to gapins

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for nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the transfer portal season is underway and nine players

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from B while you're in the portal, I don't know

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if you kept practice, but Scioni Hngano offensive tackles, Sonny

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Tuala defensive line, Tucker Keller Heer tight end, Ikinasio Tupo

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offensive tackle, Lemson Waller the third wide receiver, McKay Hillstead quarterback,

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Marcus McKenzie cornerback, Jake Griffin offensive tackle, and then Dominique

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McKenzie wide receiver. Who's the biggest loss and why? Out

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of this group?

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Speaker 5: Will those guys? You know, there's I think those guys

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are more your potential guys, you know, your your They're

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kind of a work in progress, and so it's it's

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hard to tell because they all have potential. They showed potential,

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and it's just a matter of, you know, where they're

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at versus the market. Basically, you know, who can you

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get that basically can replace those guys And they're kind

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of already ready, you know, can step right in and

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play where these whereas they're more developmental, you know, And

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I think that's really what it came down to with

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those guys, I don't know, I don't have inside information.

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I'm not sure if they were told to transfer, which

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that's the case a lot of these situations. You know,

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we're like, hey, we're going to we're gonna bring in

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some transfers at your position just to let you know.

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You can answer, you can stay and compete, you know,

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whatever the conversation is. And so again, I think that

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group there is more than the developmental group versus hey,

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where they're ready, which doesn't mean that they're not good

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football players, which just means that there's a perception right

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now bye that they got some guys that can plug

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and play immediately and get the media production out of them.

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And that's the business. I think people need to realize that.

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You know, it's the transfer portal and all that is.

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It's a lot like the NFL. You have to be

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able to show that you're ready to contribute immediately. You

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just can't because in the NFL, the old statement was

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there's not a redser gear and everybody say that your

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contributor or you get cut and be on the practice

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squad and you're developmental, you know, And that's kind of

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how these guys are they're kind of like practice squad

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fringe players. Still a ton of potential. Still I could

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see album going to other places being really good, but

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again the perception is there's others that are more advanced,

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ready to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always intriguing the some of the what's the

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position of concern in the portal? Do you think for

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BYU is quarterback? For instance, if they concerned you could lose,

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you lose McKay, you still have Tracon doesn't look like

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he's going to transfer. Enick Watson, I like Goldie as

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they call him, behind Bear Bachmeyer. What do you make

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of the quarterback position and maybe some positions of need

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in the in the portal this offseason.

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Speaker 5: Well, we got Roderick, you know, and that to me

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is the comforting bean key that we all should be,

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you know, using to help us kind of sue through

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any any cornerback uncertainty, because he handled probably the biggest

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disruption of the quarterback room a coach could ever handle

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and the best way it could possibly be handled last

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year with Bear and Jake. So I have like, I

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don't even that's not even a concern. I don't even

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like I just know we rather if you're up there

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and if somebody had to step in and play for Bear,

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we roddick will get them ready, you know. So I'm

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not really concerned about that. My biggest concern would be

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rebuilding our offensive lineman and defensive linemen. A concern would

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be we got to get some mike off the ball

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backers that are how can I put it, either guys

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that we already have or guys that can come in

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and be tough assignment sound can line everybody up a

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lot like you saw in Texas Tech. I don't know

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if you paid close attention to their guys. The guys

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aren't as talented as the most but what they do

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is they know their scheme inside and out and they

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get everybody on the same page coverage front. So we

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got to get our guys elevated there, add somebody to

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the fault, maybe compete there corner. We can add nichols,

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you know, we did some nickels, like a third corner

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or a fourth corner. As many as we can get,

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you know, so, I'd say, and then playmakers on the

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edges and on offense that are going to be nightmares

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for defense of trying to run Mando man against this.

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Whether that's a tight end that's a matchup nightmare, could

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be a running back is a dual threat, could pound

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the ball, but then also is a receiving threat out

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of the backfield. It could be you know, big, fast,

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wide receivers. I know number one. I think he's number

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one with tcues available. Again, I'm not sure what his

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price tag is versus what our budget is, but man,

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he'd be a nice addition stuff. You know, guys like

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that who are good within Manda Man situation, because that's

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what that was our weakness last year is when we

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had Texas Tech and the League defense manning us up,

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we really struggle to get open. So we need guys

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that can make them pay and make them rethink, hey

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we we really want Manda Man because that means this

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guy is a problem for us. And what happens it

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is a chain reaction because all you've got to have

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is one guy that can beat man to man and

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then you have to kind of rotate your defense to

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him and that opens everybody else up. So that's what

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I would say our biggest need is is we got

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offensively find that guy who could just say, hey, we

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can't cover this guy man man. So let's you know,

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as a defense, make sure we're careful if we're going

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man and man, this guy's account for it. We need

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a guy that can can dictate that, and it could

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be already somebody on the roster. I think Jojo is

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a very good candidate for that. He's got big, physical,

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high pointing fifty fifty ball wide receiver. His background was

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in basketball. Gennaro found him playing basketball, by the way,

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he wasn't even in football. And he's got a lot

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of tread and potential. So, I mean, there's guys on

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a roster that could develop that Tea. You can't just

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think that you're going to go out and you know,

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buy your team. That's not realistic, which really what staying

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power is. You got to be able to get guys

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in there obviously, and then you got to develop them,

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coach them up, teach him and see guys grow and

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bostom and so it'd be interesting to see how that

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pans out.

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Speaker 2: Brady Pepinga here on ESPN the Fan talking some college football.

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So b Yu football here on your Utah ESPN Radio.

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Speaker 5: I can't I got it. I mean, I can't believe

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you haven't mentioned anything about buy us defensive coordinating situation.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's what I was. I was about to transition.

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Remember when you came into the combo, we were talking

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transferport all the things. So i'm, I'm, I'm it's a

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soft it's a soft segue. I didn't want to go

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right to the heart. It's like, you know, like I

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you know, when I took my wife out on a date,

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I didn't automatically try to make out where herre just

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to get to the crux. But you know what I mean,

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I had to I had to give her some dinner first,

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and you know, yeah, this is foreplay. Man's four pay

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foreplay for the listeners. Come on now.

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Speaker 5: By the way, congratulations, I know you got a little

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little girl on the way. That's exciting news man.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm trying to catch up to I'm trying

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to catch up to all of you guys. Man, trying

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to multiply with planets to the Earth Man, just trying

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to do just trying to obey the first command. But

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that God gave Adam and Eve, you know, the multiplier

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with planet man. I love it absolutely, So we'll see

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how it how it plays on how many of my

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how many of my wife will let me have We'll see,

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but yeah, let's talk about it. Jay Hill takes the job,

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takes takes his talent to Michigan along with Kyle Whittingham.

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The domino effect is crazy to own more gets fired right,

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Kyle Whittingham is forced out of the University of Utah

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by Mark Harlan. It seemed the coaching wedding. Morgan Scully

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gets the head coaching job behind him. He's in the portal, right,

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and Michigan comes knocking. Well after that, Kyle Whittingham takes

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Jason beck in, Jay Hill, and now Jano or Guildford

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is in Michigan. Give me your thoughts, your commentary about

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the domino effect that we've experienced over the last few weeks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's surprising because the guy at Kyle Whittingham,

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you think would always be at Utah and that they

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would always want him there. So he wasn't good anymore,

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you know what I mean. This last year he had

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an exceptional year, and so that was kind of a surprise.

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But you know, they know more about their own situation

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than anybody, and then you know, it seemed natural that

472
00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:08,920
Jay would want to go there. Because you know, I

473
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,640
know Jay, he's he's he's a very competitive person and

474
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,640
and I like, man, I tell you guys on the Raid,

475
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,359
I just I did not want to hype him up

476
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,480
so much because I knew he's a great coach. Obviously,

477
00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:21,359
Kyle Whittingham knows how great of a coach he is

478
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,000
and and that and that sets him up too for

479
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,759
because one thing we all have to what I personally

480
00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:29,559
have to realize is you know, these coaches, they only

481
00:24:29,599 --> 00:24:33,599
have so many opportunities windows in their careers to be coordinators,

482
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,319
to be head coaches and those kinds of things, and

483
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:38,759
then it kind of passes you up. And Jay is

484
00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:41,119
one of those guys. I think that he'd like to

485
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,759
be a head coach now I doig you Obviously that

486
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,279
would maybe not hit his window unless he had to

487
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,519
leave somewhere. And so I thought it was interesting because

488
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:52,480
it's like, if he goes to Utah with Kyle, Kyle

489
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:54,880
was not going to coach as long as as Kilaney

490
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,200
will as the head coach, and so that creates an

491
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,720
opportunity and natural window for him that he could eventually

492
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,000
take over for Kyle winning hands. That makes sense, you know.

493
00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:05,519
And then Gennaro going there too. Maybe you know there's

494
00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:09,720
something with Gennaro and his aspirations to be the defensive

495
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,279
coordinator or what have you. I'm not I'm not sure.

496
00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:14,440
But but also that's that's a great thing to have

497
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,480
on your resume. So I'm happy for these guys that

498
00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:21,440
they're getting opportunities of girls and they're having opportunities to

499
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,480
expand themselves as coaches. And it's bittersweet though, because it's like, man,

500
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,319
I'd love to keep all those guys forever at Buy.

501
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,920
They work so well together. I just don't think people realize.

502
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,960
I had the pleasure been at't see them in action

503
00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:37,480
in meetings, in game planning, in games, and it was

504
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:41,079
just like they work so well suristically. It was a

505
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,640
beautiful thing because I mean, I look, guys, I have

506
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,440
some coaches yell at each other, all each other names

507
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,480
on the sidelines. It's like all this bickering going on,

508
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:51,160
you know, and it's and it's like really stressful, and

509
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,920
Tansey're like, dude, everybody's freaking let's go out plays the ball.

510
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,400
These guys it wasn't like that at all. It was

511
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,279
a beautiful thing. So hopefully they can recapture that with

512
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,640
their the new direction the by he is now going

513
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,839
to go. And like I said, Jay and General are

514
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,240
going to be greatly missed, no.

515
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: Doubt about it. Let me ask you this real quick.

516
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,839
So you lose Jay, you lose Gennaro, big losses. I

517
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,799
don't know if there's going to be more attrition on

518
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,039
the coaching staff. Obviously Gavin Fowler's taking the DC role

519
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:23,039
at Weaver State. We don't know if he's coming back.

520
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,880
You got a d C role to Phil. You have

521
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:32,960
cornerbacks and safeties coaching coaches, position coach to Phil. Gary

522
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,640
Anderson has been retained as a senior analyst. I think

523
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,880
that was big news. Yeah, you know what impact does

524
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,960
that have on this defensive coaching staff and and what

525
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,559
they're going to hire as the DC and these cornerbacks

526
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,960
coach and safeties coach.

527
00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:51,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, and shoots, you know, because Gary's a guy that

528
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:58,440
easier experienced, your experienced kind of stabilizer who has seen

529
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,759
it all as a head coach of defensive coordinator. He's

530
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:05,599
a big innovator behind the defense the BIU currently runs.

531
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,440
So he has a lot of the nuances and those

532
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:11,599
games and understanding of how to call the game. Too.

533
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:13,640
I think it's huge. People don't realize that calling a

534
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,799
game is a lot more than just you know, matten.

535
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,519
I mean, it's setting things up. It's making offenses and

536
00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:22,359
offensive coordinators thinking quarterbacks too, thinking you're going to do

537
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,440
one thing and then you do something else and not

538
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:26,440
showing your hand. And you got to be able to

539
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,119
do that with eleven guys. Now that's not an easy

540
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,799
thing to do. And so there's an art to calling

541
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,880
game that that Gary knows. There's also this what I

542
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,079
love about Gary. He's very nice, right, very nice, but

543
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,480
I think he's got some old crustiness to them that

544
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:43,359
I love because he just if he doesn't like something,

545
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,000
he's not going to sit there and pretend that he

546
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,519
likes it, you know what I'm saying, Like he is

547
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:48,839
just over there, and so he's gonna tell you how

548
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,000
it is. He's gonna shoot you straight. And so I

549
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,079
think he's going to be an excellent kind of check

550
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,599
and balances as he was previous with Jay and the staff,

551
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,200
to kind of keep everybody just locked in and let

552
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,039
everybody know like, hey, this is the deal. And Boone

553
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,440
just dropped the hammer of truth.

554
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: You know.

555
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:08,039
Speaker 5: I think that's very important for any organization to have

556
00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:10,039
something like that because there is a group thing tendency

557
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,160
that people don't realize that everybody starts to kind of

558
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,640
think the saying because they're always around each other. But

559
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:18,279
he's a guy that he really knows how to see

560
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:19,839
it as it is and call it as it is.

561
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,880
So he's going to be huge. And then his energy,

562
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,160
his competitiveness, and again his experience is phenomenal, you know.

563
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,519
And I mean you saw what he did as soon

564
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:29,559
as he came and you know, started working with the

565
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,480
defensive front, you know, all the positions hedge you guys,

566
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:36,839
the de tackles, we improved dramatically. That was not all

567
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,960
of a sudden, just some you know, crazy thing to happen.

568
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,279
That was because of his presence and his expertise. So

569
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:43,640
he's going to be going to be big time. And

570
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,680
I was excited as ever to hear that he's going

571
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:47,119
to be coming back because I know how big of

572
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,000
an impact he's been on the program. And obviously he's

573
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,319
good with Klonnie. They had a great relationship, great history

574
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:54,960
together and I'm sure he's how Klawanne also as a

575
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,039
head coach. So there's just a lot that he does

576
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,880
that has been invaluable. And it's like I said, I know,

577
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:02,839
he's like he's like going to raise the Utah Utah

578
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:04,440
youth guy. But I'm happy that we've been able to

579
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,880
adopt in that here at BYU. For him to be

580
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,039
able to share his abilities and gifts and talents with

581
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,400
us has been awesome. Man. It's like, it's really nice.

582
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,160
It's really nice to have that kind of person.

583
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:19,039
Speaker 2: There no doubt about it. The next DC, the next

584
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,240
cornerbacks coach, the next safety coach. We discussed it last week.

585
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:26,079
You kind of felt like there'd be an internal higher made.

586
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:27,359
What do you make of it right now? Do you

587
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,000
think it's still internal or do you think they look externally?

588
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:33,759
Speaker 5: I mean, anything can happen. But I mean, look, I

589
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:37,039
know what I'm about to say. I want everybody to

590
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:39,400
know this that it's my brother I'm going to talk about.

591
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,720
But don't think for one second that I'm not going

592
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,519
to talk honestly. Okay, but here's the reality. And I

593
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:46,680
don't think people know this about Kelly. Maybe they forget

594
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,759
about it, but Kelly was a Code of It's coordinator

595
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:53,359
for Virginia for six seasons. He helped game plan and

596
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,200
also prepare in call games against quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson

597
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:02,559
against the for Bisky the quarterback at Pint that won

598
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,759
the first round. UH Lawrence, the guy out of UH

599
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,720
who's with Jackson Jaguars, Trevor Lawrence. You can just keep

600
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,759
it on that list. I mean, Kelly has as much

601
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:17,559
experience as you could expect out of any coordinator, and

602
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:20,039
he's done it against the best offenses and the best

603
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:22,799
players in the country during his time in the ACC,

604
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,279
which is at that time P five. Now you know

605
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:28,960
obviously P four. So it would be very hard I

606
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,920
think for Kline to find somebody of his qualification, quite frankly,

607
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:33,960
and then on top of it, he has the inside

608
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,200
information of the defense. There's that the kind of the

609
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,000
internal carryover, which I think is huge. Now not to

610
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,720
say you couldn't bring in somebody from the outside, but

611
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:46,920
they would even because, for example, if you brought somebody

612
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,000
in from the outside, there still is this idea that, hey,

613
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,799
what they've been doing is successful. I'm not going to

614
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,319
disrupt him, and that's fair. You know a lot of

615
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:56,640
coaches I've seen it, you know O c DC's that

616
00:30:56,759 --> 00:30:58,680
do that where they come in where coach wasn't fired,

617
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,759
but he went on because of you know, different or

618
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,279
i'd say higher opportunities, or because of his goals. And

619
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:06,720
so they had been successful and say, hey, we're just

620
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,759
going to run your same stuff. But even so they

621
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:11,759
still will have a little bit of their own signature

622
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:14,160
on what you do and that and I think but

623
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,319
with the advantage of Kelly is is there's just this

624
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,640
continuity where it just continues to progress and you just

625
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,440
continue to stack and stack from mass years this next year.

626
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:26,279
And that also has helped because of Gary being there.

627
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:29,240
And so I just look at it like there's really

628
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,839
not a better option than going with Kelly. And so

629
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,400
that's you know, how I look at it. I don't

630
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,160
know how it's going to shake out. Obviously there's been

631
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:42,240
nothing ultimately that's been announced, but you know that's my

632
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,680
that's my assessment on it. And again I'm not trying

633
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,680
to pump up my brother. If if it wasn't him,

634
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:48,720
you know, and and he wasn't qualified, wouldn't even be

635
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,200
talking about it quite Frank guys who I'm always shooting straight.

636
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:54,319
So but yeah, he's he's the guy, in my opinion,

637
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:56,759
if you're going to go internal he's ready. Yeah.

638
00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people said, okay, hey, we're

639
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,880
a P four team now and we have P four resources.

640
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,799
Like these are the conversation I've been having. Why not

641
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,319
go out and get Justin Wilcox or a Quatowski from

642
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,319
UH from Texas or you know you gotta go to

643
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,480
why not go get Danny Gonzalez? Why not bring in

644
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:20,720
bronco Mannen Hall? Right, yeah, yeah, we have a robust resources.

645
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:24,759
Why not go out and get approven DC maybe former

646
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:29,039
head coach in order to build up your defense. The

647
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:32,599
problem with that, right, would the repercussion be they're gonna

648
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,200
change the scheme and you could have roster attrition.

649
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,079
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think they would change the scheme because

650
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:41,680
Colonie oversees the scheme, you know, and then having Garry there,

651
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,400
I think keeps the scheme integrity and you do you

652
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,559
wouldn't want to do that anyways. Like I said, if

653
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:47,440
one of those guys came in, they'd run the same scheme.

654
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,839
But what you do have is you still have somebody

655
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,440
that hasn't been there, So there's not there's just not

656
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,240
going to be the same communication, not the same key words.

657
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:59,640
There's there still is going to be a little difference

658
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,519
that people have to adapt to. Maybe there's a style that,

659
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:06,119
like you said, the players really aren't like responding to.

660
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,720
You know, that's huge. You know, you got to have

661
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:11,559
coaches that players want to play hard for, especially today.

662
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:14,039
But he could transfer. And I can tell you from

663
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:16,359
having seen Kelly, I mean and talking to Kelly's former

664
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,480
players for the last a decade or so, I mean,

665
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,480
every single one of his players will come up to me,

666
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,599
whether it's something that they find out I'm his brother,

667
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,119
or they just you know, through our own conversation, they'd

668
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,640
be like, man, I enjoyed playing for your brother. And

669
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,680
then I can also see it how he operates. You know,

670
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,519
he's a guy that's he's capable of calling people out

671
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,680
and being just absolutely brutally honest, but he doesn't obliterate them.

672
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:39,759
You know, he actually does it in an inspiring way.

673
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:42,400
There's some coaches that are just so so demeaning and

674
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,480
so demoralizing that they there's rip kids and it's really

675
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,319
hard to bounce back. It takes an immense amount of

676
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:50,079
mental toughness and other guy's not really fun to play

677
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,240
for it quite frankly, they make it hard you know,

678
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:54,160
and that's not Kelly, and I think that's not how

679
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,559
Klanie operates either, So I think there's some synergy there.

680
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,559
So to me, it's just like even from Klannie standpoint,

681
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,240
he wants specific things done offensively, defensively, special teams wise.

682
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,320
If you bring in another guy like that, there's a

683
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,920
risk that, yeah, that you may get pushed back and

684
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,119
all of a sudden there's some conflict that you have

685
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:14,920
to worry about that wouldn't have been there before. If

686
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,760
you have somebody already in the program, it's mental energy wasted.

687
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,360
You're not able to have that same flow and that

688
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,840
same kind of synergy that I talked about earlier. That that,

689
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,239
to me is what's the most important that they recapture,

690
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:29,639
is that synergy staff wise. And so it just to

691
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,880
me makes so much more sense. You just keep it

692
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,719
a turnal. Plus, Kelly's, like I said, he's as qualified

693
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,280
as you can get outside as being an actual play

694
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,719
call because that's the only thing you didn't do with

695
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,880
Virginia is actually call the plays. But I don't know

696
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,280
if people realize this. Most of the time, the staff

697
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,480
is who comes up with a call sheet that has

698
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:51,000
every single situation detailed whether it's first and ten plus,

699
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:55,000
fifty second and sixth plus on the negative forty five,

700
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:57,440
and then you have your rolodex of plays that you called.

701
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,440
The only thing that defensive corner really does is he

702
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,760
has to take the final fall or benefit of what

703
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,000
they call because he's the decordinator. He's gonna give it up.

704
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,760
You know, he's gonna he's gonna say what he feels.

705
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,519
But one of the co coordinating situation, that's it done

706
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more collaboratively. So anyway, he's he's qualified man, as I said,

707
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And I think the what he's done with special teams

708
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,920
translates the defense because you watch how hard the guys

709
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,719
played on special teams and how you know, execute how

710
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,119
well they executed his plan. I thought that was a

711
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,639
respect to him and then trusting in him, and that

712
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,000
carries over in all aspects. So I think I just

713
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,239
I don't see it making a lot of sense going

714
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,920
going elsewhere other than Kelly.

715
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:42,559
Speaker 2: Year over year since twenty twenty three, let me ask

716
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:45,639
you this, which group do you think offense, defense or

717
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,719
special teams has been the most effective, most efficient offense

718
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,199
even since twenty twenty three?

719
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,199
Speaker 5: Would you say, well, I think they've all been really good,

720
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,159
and they've had their moments, you know, and I thought

721
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:02,800
they've also had tremendous growth, which is a lot more

722
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,039
of a function I think of player development and talent

723
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,480
increasing than it is, you know, anything else. But but yeah,

724
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:14,280
I mean, it's it's for surely been in terms of

725
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,079
you go back beyond twenty twenty three and you compare

726
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,840
it to other teams. It's hard to find teams to

727
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,639
play as consistently together in all three phases as we

728
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,360
have over the last two years, which you could, you know,

729
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:29,039
basically say, is the reason why we've been as winning.

730
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:30,599
I was winning of a program as there is in

731
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,119
the country in the P four level. So that is

732
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:38,519
something that is absolutely clear and has been demonstrated now

733
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:39,599
for the second year in a row.

734
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,639
Speaker 2: So I pulled the numbers since twenty twenty three. Sp

735
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,440
plus was is an efficiency metric that ESPN uses created

736
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,639
by Bill Conley. So sp plus offensive average rank, well,

737
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,480
let's just say they're ranking twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,

738
00:36:56,519 --> 00:37:00,320
twenty twenty five, this is the offense great improvement seventy fifth,

739
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,199
thirty six, and then twenty fourth average ranking forty fifth

740
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,960
defensive average ranking, they were ninety fourth, twenty first, and

741
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:15,000
twenty third. Right, so forty six special teams was ranked eleventh,

742
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,440
fourth and forty seventh. That's an average ranking of twentieth

743
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:21,639
in the country special teams unit.

744
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:25,079
Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, pretty good.

745
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: Yep. So all right to me, if they go with Kelly,

746
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,039
that to me kind of speaks to okay, you go internal.

747
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,159
Obviously he's been a co DC and he had the

748
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:41,159
best unit in three year for three years comparative to

749
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,000
the other units that were being coordinated.

750
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, I mean, I think you hit on

751
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,519
a very important point, which shows that he is a

752
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,679
very proficient coordinator. And I hope everyone understands. It's a

753
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,480
lot more complex coordinating special teams than offensive defense too,

754
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,039
because offense you just dealing with the offense, defense just

755
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,239
dealing with the defense. Special teams you're dealing with the

756
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,159
whole team. So it can be an absolute like a

757
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,559
like a fire drill. Every time you're trying to get

758
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:14,440
you know your specially your your kickoff team, the kickoff

759
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,480
return team and you know pun return and still going

760
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,360
fill the block all organized, and you got guys getting

761
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,159
injured and the other guys stepping up. It could be

762
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:25,079
an absolute you know mass, you know, and he was

763
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:27,679
extremely organized, and like I said, I thought the thing

764
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,119
that to me was most impressive. And it's just because

765
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,280
I know Kelly from you know, from when he was born.

766
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,599
Basically it's just here I have my little brother, and

767
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:37,920
I was like, these kids really really play hard for

768
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:40,440
him a and then they they really respect him, you know.

769
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,119
And I think those are the two things that really

770
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,079
show a true, true success and influence of a coordinator

771
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:47,559
or even a coach is how do your players respond,

772
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,800
you know, and how does their production, how does their

773
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,320
production go?

774
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:50,679
Speaker 2: You know.

775
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 5: And another thing that the people that realize is how

776
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,199
many NFL guys Kelly has had an influence on. I mean,

777
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,079
he he's the guy who recruited Fred Warner. You know,

778
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:03,480
he's recruit and developed you know, Calvinoy Ziggy. Kelly was

779
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,760
the one who helped to put his paths in his

780
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,599
pants when he was trying to figure out what he's

781
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,599
going on with his Pats. Bronson Cafusi is another guy.

782
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:11,119
I mean, you could just keep going down the list

783
00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:13,960
of of NFL guys that he had and his ability

784
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,920
to develop them, and you know, Baddie's another guy. You

785
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,880
know now now with the Vikings on talk talky, you know,

786
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,320
you just keep going down the list. This guy's really

787
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,119
been phenomenal and it's and it's not my accent, you know,

788
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:27,719
And I just and Kelly's not the guy to do it.

789
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,159
He's not the guy who's gonna go and blow his

790
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:30,960
old horn. You know. I'm here to do that for him.

791
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,159
And I'm like again, I'm just telling you the facts.

792
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:35,599
I'm not trying to trying to sell him at anybody.

793
00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:38,000
I'm just letting you know this is the reality behind him.

794
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,119
And and like I said, I think he's the guy.

795
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,480
And uh and if they if they go that direction,

796
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:44,480
they're going to be very happy.

797
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: A couple of last things before I let you go,

798
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,039
beat Pop, appreciate you joining us for a little college

799
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:54,800
football conversation. Cornerbacks coach and safeties coach. Uh what what

800
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,800
what directions think they go there? Do you think they

801
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,280
go internal and and maybe higher from within or do

802
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,519
you think they go external?

803
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 5: Well, a guy, the guy that would have been the

804
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:07,760
easy transition would have been Gavin. So I wonder how

805
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,519
hard of a cell's job they can make the gather

806
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:11,920
to come back. I'm not sure how that is going

807
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,320
to work out if he's going to be the DC.

808
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:16,039
And plus, you know, when we like the beginning of

809
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:18,440
the conversation, we talked about these coaches, the windows and

810
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,679
being able to have an opportunity, you know, for him

811
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,639
to go to Weaver State, be a coordinator, be effective

812
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:27,360
as a coordinator, will help him in terms of becoming

813
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,400
a coordinator at other places and eventually, you know, the

814
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,679
P four level and maybe even head coach if that's

815
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,039
his aspiration. So I think that's going to be a

816
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:37,960
hard sell, but it would be interesting to tick those tires. Hey,

817
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,280
you want to come back? Didn't We didn't realize this

818
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,280
is all gonna happen so quickly, but maybe he did.

819
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,360
I don't know the inside information, you know, all the

820
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:47,320
conversations they've had since Jay knew he was going to leave,

821
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,079
or even when he knew he was going to leave,

822
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,280
as a matter of fact, and then the Corners coach.

823
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:56,079
You know, I just trying to think who was really

824
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:58,480
on staff that assisted Gennaro. I mean, there are some

825
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:00,840
guys you know that assisted him into the.

826
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,079
Speaker 2: Nice Johnson, Wesley Johnson was there, Rob Daniel has been there,

827
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:07,840
Eddie Hecker, who's been there.

828
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: That's right, those guys are and they all did a

829
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,400
really good job, you know. And but again they're all

830
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,159
the kind of new But who knows, you know. I mean,

831
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:17,960
those those could be those guys could be really good

832
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,559
options or at least set up to become like the

833
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,920
next guy if there's change again, which there will be.

834
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,760
I mean, that's the only thing inevitable and all this

835
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,199
stuff that there's always going to be changed. So that's

836
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,719
those are interesting ones, man, Like you know, ideally, you

837
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,199
want to get guys that can teach like I got.

838
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,360
Gennard did a very nice job of teaching not only

839
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:41,000
man press coverage technique, but also how to play off

840
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:43,159
the ball, because sometimes those aren't compatible. I don't know

841
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,719
if people know that I played as one of the

842
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,199
best quarterbacks pressman quarterbacks in the history of the NFL.

843
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,920
By the name of Al Harris. He's a cornerbacks coach

844
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,079
for the Struggle Bears. The dude struggled in jone. I'm

845
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:56,599
telling you right now, he had a tough time reading

846
00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,400
route progressions because he just wanted to go jam dudes

847
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,000
and run them, you know, run them off the sideline.

848
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,519
All day. So to be able to teach a corner

849
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:05,519
and how to jam up a receiver play man to

850
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:08,239
man and then also be able to read route progressions

851
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:10,679
is an art. So that's I think a huge trait

852
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,079
that you're gonna want in your coach and his ability

853
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:15,039
to be able to do both. And like I said,

854
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:17,039
in general, who was really good at that? So I

855
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:19,079
think that's something you got to You got to kind

856
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,199
of feel for these guys and sit them down, interview them,

857
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,880
talk scheme with them, talk how they're going to develop

858
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,639
guys and see if in fact, like a big part

859
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,840
of what they do is developing both manda man technique

860
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,440
skills and then also off the off the ball kind

861
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,800
of you know, giving a receiver cushion and zone skills

862
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,559
and reading route progressions. You know, because we get a

863
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:39,159
lot of bunches in our on our scheme, a lot

864
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:41,199
of people anticipate us running man the mats. We get

865
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,280
bunches and stacks, and a lot of times that's very

866
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,119
hard for defensive backs if you're not able to read

867
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:48,159
the route progression, you know, because you've got to kind

868
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:50,679
of take them as they disperse, and you got to

869
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,840
know how you fit with even a Mike linebacker in

870
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,679
a lot of those cases, because the Mike linebacker is

871
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:56,199
going to be playing off the number three guy and

872
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,760
there's three guys you're worried about and you've got the

873
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,679
number one guys. You better be able to understand that.

874
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,320
Just lock your guy in your own guy, you know,

875
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,039
because there's times where you have to work with others,

876
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:06,519
So that that's a that would be an interesting thing

877
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:10,079
to kind of draw from these perspective guys that are

878
00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:12,519
buying to take that spot, to see if they're capable

879
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:15,320
and their communication and ability to coach it, you know,

880
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,280
because even if you're a good player, sometimes it's not

881
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,360
easy to communicate that.

882
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:18,679
Speaker 2: You know.

883
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,199
Speaker 5: It's you can't just tell a guy do that, you know,

884
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,960
you actually got to break it down in a very

885
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:27,400
detailed way that's understandable and applicable to help them understand

886
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,599
the rules and hopefully help them understand the reason behind

887
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:32,079
what they're doing. That's hard.

888
00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna throw my hat into the ring,

889
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,440
but I enjoy having work life balance too much.

890
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 5: I was asking the church the other day, They're like, hey, Brady,

891
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,920
what he's in man? You need to become the DC.

892
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,800
I'd say, Hey. The only stipulation would be I to

893
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,079
have to be a remote defensive courtet. I couldn't leave

894
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:52,760
Los Angeles and I'd have to call the game from

895
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my couch.

896
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Speaker 2: So if we could do that, yeah, I'm good man,

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All right, let's get into some of the news and

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notes of the day. Obviously, Jay Jay Hill, General Guildford

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are out. Gary Anderson has been retained. It looks like

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Kelly Papinga SCIONI pooja. It looks like Justin Enna all retained. Okay,

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we haven't heard anything different, so we're gonna assume that

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those guys are all retained. It looks like it could be.

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It could be's job is the DC. We'll see how

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it plays out. You're looking to back Phil a cornerback's

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job and a safety's job. Who will that be? Could

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be Tomorrow Warren and Gavin Fowler. We'll see if it

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plays out that way. That's my early odds. If I

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was to kal shee this, I'd put the odds on

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DC Kelly Papinga, I'd put Gavin Fowlers a safeties coach,

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and then Tomorrow Warren answer cornerbacks coach. We'll see if

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it plays out that way. I could be wrong. I'm

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Benster Doomas has been known to be wrong every now

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and again. We'll see if it. If it comes to

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fruition BYU basketball got a nice dub over the Kansas

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State basketball team on the road, their first road win

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of of the Big Twelve play pretty impressive. It was beautiful,

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it was ugly in so many ways, and Aj Devons

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ended up being named the Big twelve Newcomer of the

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Week for the second time due to his performance. Love

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what I'm seeing from Aj the Bontsa the leading scorer

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in the NC double A right now at twenty three

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point one points per game. From a women's basketball standpoint,

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the Cougars, I believe handed the sun Devils. Therefore, this

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women's basketball team ain't too shabby either. Ron, I know

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you've been keeping tabs on it. How about Lee Kamard

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and then Lady Coops.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Lee Kamard right now, I mean, obviously, uh, they're

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gonna have to beat the rival of Utah because BUEI

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lost to TCU and the Utah upset TCU, So you're

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gonna have to get Utah to prove that. But after

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that you get a good Arizona State team. You know,

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Molly's a great coach. He came from Grand Kayon beIN,

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really turned that program around, and then has this Arizona

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State team cooking. And then Lee Kamard says Ah and

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even some BA women's players are getting feisty. There are

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some even some you know, some trash talking that was

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going on, and the energy. He's changed the whole culture, Lee,

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and he finally has the cut coaching job. You know,

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maybe you can argue you deserved it in the beginning,

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but it doesn't matter. He's got them shooting, playing defense

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at a high level. They got to still knock off

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some big opponents. They play Baylor, I think next Saturday,

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they play Houston, so they got to take care of

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some business this week. But if they do that and

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they can get a couple of ranked wins, you can

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start to say that a league.

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Speaker 3: Kamara is starting to right hisself into the legacy.

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Speaker 2: Look thirteen to two, thirteen and two right now on

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the season. Not too shabby, not too bad, and they

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handed Arizona State their first loss of the season. Congratulations

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to this lady Coug's team led by Lee Kamar doing

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great things on and off the court. Love to see that. Also,

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five Cougars named All American by Phil Steele ten named

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All Big twelve. Shout out to the Cougar football players.

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All American honorees include safety Folatiles, Soatowala who was named

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second team, and a running back L J. Martin who

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was named third team selection. In addition, linebacker Jack Kelly

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and Bruce Mitchell and safety Tennerwall received honorable mention honors.

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So some really good football players Steel Big Twelve All

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Conference Team. Parker Kingston was mentioned there too, Jack Kelly, LJ. Martin,

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Bruce Mitchell, follow Telsatawala, all getting the Henrees. Third team

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onn Rees included long snapper Garrison Grimes, defensive tackle John

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Tamway Peyu, while four team selections included linebacker Isaiah Glasker

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and cornerback Evan Johnson. So your first teamers once again,

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l J. Martin, Bruce Mitchell, Jack Kelly, follow Taulsatawala, and

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Parker Kingston's second team is and Parker Kingston as a

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punt returner, Second team, Parker Kingston as a wide receiver,

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Tannel Wall as a safety, Third team, John Tamway Payo

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and Garrison Grimes, and the four team Isaiah Glasger and

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Evan Johnson. Felicidas to all those young men, those ballers

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shot collars as they you know, they negotiate right now,

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they're negotiating their new contracts heading into twenty twenty six.

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You hope that all of them are retained that are

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not taking their talents to the NFL. And YO, right now,

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like your biggest players of concern are probably Evan Johnson

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and I would say Isaiah Glasker on the defensive side

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of the bar. Are there any offensive players that we're

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concerned about? Is the question. I think we're pretty good.

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Maybe Jojo Phillips possibly, there was some rumblings that he

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would take his talents to the portal, but I think

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it'd be better off if he just stuck it out

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at BYU. Those are my thoughts on the matter. Any

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other news that notes that we wanted to break down

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here on your Utah ESPN Radio network, Ronald the three

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man Weave? Anything else?

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's different today.

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Speaker 4: BAU basketball men's and women's have some big games this

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week and then transfer portal. Watch Ben what Cougar's or

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future Cougars will be playing in Blee Yu blue next year.

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Speaker 2: The Big Twelve, by the way, as the most teams

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in the latest College Basketball AP Top twenty five POWL

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Arizona one I was stayed at three Houston at seven.

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BAU ninth, Texas Tech fourteenth, Kansas twenty second, twenty fifth

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is UCF and the other element that I brought up

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today a little college football BYU stat which BYU football

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unit had performed the best year every year from twenty

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twenty three through twenty twenty five per ESPN sp plus metrics,

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it's actually the Special Team shunit. They've been ranked eleventh, fourth,

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and forty seventh over the three year span, averaging twentieth

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in the country. The other two seventy fifth, six, thirty

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six and twenty fourth is the offensive rank, and then

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defensive average rank is ninety fourth, twenty first, and twenty third.

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That's our show. We're sticking to a download the podcast iTunes, Spreaker,

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good night, have a safe night. We'll be back Tomorrow's

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three nine ninety eight point three