Speaker 1: What's up, besties. Welcome back to Talking Schmidt. I am
so excited to see you you guys. We have a
great episode today. But before we get into that, I
want to talk to you because The Artist Way is
starting next week. So if you didn't get your book,
I need you to go get your book. And if
you're not going to do it, that's fine. Just know
that everything we do for the Artist Way will be
at the end of the podcast. So it's just going
to be like an additional thing that we're doing for
fun together. If you don't want to do it with me,
I totally understand. It's honestly a lot. It's like a
commitment to yourself that like I'm scared to make. I'm
scared to do it because I haven't done it in
so long and I know how much time it takes
to do. So it is a commitment, but it is
a beautiful commitment to yourself, to your inner artist, to
your inner child. So if you want to be a
part of that journey with me, I would love for
you guys to come on that. I am in Chicago
today and I am with one of my oldest dearest friends,
doctor Eric Anderson. We went to Marquette University together other
and quite honestly, we were just like partying and fucking drinking.
And I won't say anymore because I don't want to
say anything about him that he doesn't want set. But
he is wonderful. He is so smart. He is one
of my most accomplished friends. Like I can't believe we
went to college together, and then he went to med
school and I went to jail and I became comedian.
So I am so excited to have him. You guys
sent in a ton of questions. We get to most
of them. There's a few we leave out because we
just didn't have the time, but we were really having
the time of our life talking. So I hope you
guys enjoyed this episode as much as I enjoyed having
this conversation ceiling for besties.
Speaker 2: What you say, I said, don't make it weird. Eric,
all right, we got this really.
Speaker 1: To fucking lock in center, lock In, doctor Eric, doctor Flip.
Speaker 3: I'm so centered, the centrist of all the flip cubs.
Speaker 1: I'm so of all the flip cups. I'm so excited
you're here.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: All of my fans are so excited you're here.
Speaker 1: I've never got more questions for anyone else.
Speaker 3: That means the world's yeah.
Speaker 1: I want everyone to know about our backstory. First, we've
been friends for fifteen years, not longer than that.
Speaker 3: Since college.
Speaker 1: So yeah, two thousand and eight. What's the math? I'm
that I'm really bad at math?
Speaker 2: Are you good?
Speaker 1: You're a doctor?
Speaker 2: You should we get a path?
Speaker 3: What is it? Twenty six? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And it's eighteen years?
Speaker 3: Eighteen years?
Speaker 1: Fuck?
Speaker 2: I mean that's depressing. We don't look old right because
of you? Which is and because of you we don't
look old exactly.
Speaker 1: I just got a DM today that my twenty year
high school reunion is coming up. Fuck, and they're like
are you coming? And like you could not pay me
enough money. I was like, you would have to pay
me an appearance fee, and still I would just keep
the deposit and not show up like.
Speaker 2: You can.
Speaker 1: You couldn't force me by law, but gunpoint to ever
go back and hang out with this.
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone should go to a high school reunion.
I think I think we should.
Speaker 1: I think we could just let it die in. If
you peaked in high school, just didn't you enjoy that
type of high school?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Because you because you're bolder. Everyone actually needs to not
buy a dress for their high school reunion and save
their money and come see you.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The high school reunion should be at a doctor's office.
Speaker 3: High school reunion, absolutely, you had skincare evil, full facial
balancing evil. Do everything for it.
Speaker 1: Do it all.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So we were friends in college and then I think
we became We were close in college, but we became
closer after college because you went to med school and
I went to jail, you.
Speaker 3: Know, opposite size of the you know, we.
Speaker 1: Went different directions. But you were my pen pal when
I was in jail, as you were like bored in
bed school. When not bored, you were busy. But every
once in a while you would carve out time to email.
Speaker 3: I thought that was funny that we email.
Speaker 1: We emailed.
Speaker 3: No one really emailed at that point because we all
had blackberries. Doesn't they remember blackberries? Blackberries?
Speaker 1: I love they peaked during I loved a little keyboard BBMS.
Speaker 3: Now I'm doing BBLS.
Speaker 1: And from BBM bbl AC should be.
Speaker 3: My podcast BBM bbl Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, millennial doctor pop here. We are too many people
wouldn't get it.
Speaker 3: No, it would just be real, very small niche. People
were looking for fucking wagons. Yeah, very small millennial wagon, yeah.
Speaker 1: Millennial wagon. Are people still getting bbls? I thought those
were over.
Speaker 3: So the BBL, as as culture knows it, is dead.
Kardashian BBL, the Miami all taken out. Yeah dead. The
skinny BBL is very well alive.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the skinny BB?
Speaker 3: Skinny BB is something that I specialize in, for sure.
Speaker 1: That's not what you say. It like that you said
special something that specialized.
Speaker 3: I want to make it awkward. I like thinking to
be awkward.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make I like speaking. But you do
not specialize. I don't specially specialize in skinny.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you had your moment. Do specialize in skinny BB?
So what is that? It's really really high definition liposuction,
like a body contouring to a stubborn area. So like
love handles flanks, it's a high definition abdominal area, the
love handles.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you said handles flanks, and so I was like,
what's a flank?
Speaker 3: Love handle slash flank?
Speaker 1: I just know a flank steak, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: So it's like that fat and hard to get areas
of the body, like the genetically difficult fat to treat
that diet exercise doesn't necessarily take care of. That's what
liposuction is for. Incredible conjuring tool. Do high definition, very
natural result for the abdomen, like usually people want three
sixty so all around the torso, and then I use
only the best fat and you really really specialize precise
custom fat grafting to the hips hip tips and just
a little bit for projection. Okay, And honestly, most of
the results from that are from really really good LiPo.
It's not even the fat crafting. Everybody thinks it's the
fat grafting. It's really good LiPo. The fat crafting is
just the just the chef's kiss on top.
Speaker 1: So we need to have put some pictures, and can
you share some pictures with people so they can see
what that?
Speaker 3: Yes, for sure? So is this mean pictures are pictures?
Speaker 1: They'll be okay, all right, stop.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: So anyway, the pictures are going to be inserted there
where Eric is having a belt. Yes, Eric is readacting
Star Wars. So was I gonna say? I completely forgot?
Oh the light bul I want to talk about lightbo
because the downtime on light. Yeah, it scares me and people.
I've talked to you about arm light bow before, and
then I went to pilateus and I got rid of
a lot of my.
Speaker 3: Arm bat good for you, Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I was really thinking about it. But then my
friend her sister got LiPo section and just told me
like horror stories about how you like leak.
Speaker 3: Depends on who your surgeon is, depends on what their
technique is. There's so many different techniques for liposuction, so
many different techniques that are surgeon dependent and also device dependent,
like based on what technologies they're using. So I use
a combination of power assisted liposuction, ultra sound assisted liposuction,
and then I also use renewy on for skin type.
So those are three technologies that I use almost for
every liposuction case that I do.
Speaker 1: Okay, And so how much are we leaking be honest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, depends on the area of the body too. The
more tissue that I have to take off, the more
fluid I have to put in to get that tissue off,
and then you leak a little bit extra. Okay, So
for just eating, like a small area. So in order
to for me to do liposuction, I have to put
fluid under your skin. It's called to messine. That as
a cocktail of steril, saline, numbing medicine like lightocine, and epinephrine,
which causes which decreases bleeding. So I put that in
under the skin, I let it sit you're asleep in
the operating room. All of that medicine works on the fat,
and then I can safely and reliably take out that
fat without too much bleeding.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So if you use too much of that to messin
at the beginning, or you're taking a lot of tissue
out and you're using more and more to messine as
it goes on, then there's a lot of that extra
fluid left over that your body hasn't absorbed, and that
will leak out.
Speaker 1: Right, and that's when you get leaky. Okay.
Speaker 3: So leaking isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's just disgusting.
It's just absolutely discussing honest.
Speaker 1: Like, if you're sitting on a much leaking for a
couple of days, like insomer overlooks.
Speaker 3: Just give me six weeks.
Speaker 1: Six weeks. One of the questions that I had.
Speaker 3: What were you say? That being said, liposuction is a
long game. It's not short term. Like, it's not a
quick fix. Sorry, Liposuction is a long game, not a
quick fix. So that means you get your liposuction done today,
you need a good four to six weeks to recover
from that. And full results from liposuction, which require the
body's natural ability for that skin to snap back, takes
three to six months. That being said, most of your
result you're going to see in about six to eight
weeks after surgery.
Speaker 1: Okay. So one of the questions that I had was
not I didn't have this. One of the listeners had it.
She did liposection, and then when she gained a bit
of weight back afterwards, it started going into the areas
like it was only going into the air. Is that
she didn't have liposection? Yes, So like let's talk about
that because that's.
Speaker 3: This is not a myth. This is not a myth.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So, when we're born, we have a set number of
cells of fat cells. Say that's a thousand fat cells,
just to put a round number on it. So when
we do liplessuction, which is one of the only mechanical
ways to permanently remove those fat cells from our body.
Then they're gone forever. So we have a thousand fat
cells we're born. Whether we gain three hundred pounds or
lose three hundred pounds, we have the same amount of
fat cells. They just get bigger or smaller based on
the calories that we're eating. Right, So if you have
a thousand fat cells, I do liposseuction, Say I take
out two hundred fat cells, so you have eight hundred left.
Whatever calories you're eating get evenly distributed between eight hundred
fat cells instead of a thousand fat cells because I
took out those two hundred.
Speaker 1: Okay, and so but fat cells, as I'm understanding it,
are they stay where they stay where they are, Okay,
So they don't move. So then that's kind of ponted.
If you get like libosection on your stomach and then
you gain weight and then everythings except like a dibbot,
Like if your skateboard, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could not.
Speaker 1: Dropping it, okay, So then could you just not get okay?
Are you seeing? I was gonna say something stupid. I
was gonna say, can you just get all your fat
cells removed? But you need something that would not be advised.
Speaker 3: You do need fat self. Fat cells are great. I
feel like you know things, things are cyclical in the
aesthetic world, like fat is good and then fat is bad,
and then fat is good again. Like fat transfer is
an incredible tool. It's great for to restore facial volume.
It's great for hitting buttock projection, so it's great for
breast dogs. I can do a small breast dog with
fat transfer.
Speaker 1: Could you do one on me with my fat?
Speaker 3: You don't even have any fat? Well I do?
Speaker 1: Could you get it and put it in my tits?
Are you seeing a lot more people just doing fat transfers.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people that are way more
interested in fat transfer because it is more natural. That
is a big buzzword in plastics right now, and because
it's not a foreign object, not an implant. It's not
like a device you have to put inside your body, right.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about implant sickness because this is something
So basically, I posted that unhinged text the other day
from my Instagram being like, when I was texting my
friend on passover that I wanted to get fake tits
and also that I made a sex tape.
Speaker 4: But I did you make a sex tape I did.
It's not it's not for public consumption, it's not for
this podcast. I insert the clip here.
Speaker 1: And is here. No. I So I posted this thing
about how I want to get pig tits. And it's
funny because it's almost like right down the middle, like
fifty to fifty people are like, yes, girl, it's the
best thing I've ever done. Do do it, do it,
And then the other fifty percent are like, no, don't
touch your body. People are talking about how they got
it and they got sick from it, and you know,
some certain bodies just reject it. Like what is your
experience with bodies rejecting implants? How often is that happening?
Speaker 3: So this, this is a hot topic in plastic surgery.
And I will start with there's no one decision that's
right for everyone. You know, you have to decide on
who you are as a person, what your aesthetic goals are,
what your health goals are, kind of what you're interested
in and where you want to be. So one decision
is not for all of my patients. So I have
patients who love implants and will forever have implants and
will stand implants till the end of time, and then
I have patients too that you know, I don't feel
comfortable with that. I don't want the maintenance that's involved
with that at times.
Speaker 1: And what maintenance is involved.
Speaker 3: You know, any implant, whether it's a knee implant, a
shoulder implant, a breast implant, is not a lifetime permanent device,
So you have to do something with that at some
point in your life. You never know when the end
of your life is, so it might be your last
I don't know. I don't know when you're going, like.
Speaker 1: You know when I'm going, and I only need one
boot job.
Speaker 3: Quality not quantity. Oh my god. So my discussion with
breast implant illness. So this is a hotly, hotly debated
topic online within plastic surgery, within medicine in general. So
the basic concept of breast implant illness is that patients
are getting breast implants in their body and that they're
having symptoms, and their thought is that the implants are
causing their symptoms. There's been so many studies on this
so far, there are studies currently going about this. We
haven't been able to find any objective data, like when
someone has implants and they have symptoms ABC then we
see this blood test that's elevated. We haven't seen that yet.
We're still looking, we're still searching. As as a doctor,
as a human, I can't tell my patient that they're feelings,
that they're not feeling what they're feeling. Right, you know,
when they tell me my body's in pain, I have
foggy memory issues, I can't focus, like all my joints
heard all over the place. I want to help that patient, like, right.
That means if they say I think it's my implants,
I say, I'm here to support you. I can help
you on that journey, so I can take your implants
out for you. I never promise anybody that taking out
those implants is going to one hundred percent fix their problems, right,
I've had patients where it doesn't help them at all.
Speaker 1: Right, And I think it's a tough thing to gauge too,
because it's like you would have to do some sort
of like psychological and physical evaluation on a patient before
and after. Right, you would have to know like what
they were struggling with before, and maybe it got amplified
by the insertion of this or maybe meant you know
what I mean, Like there's just so many I think
different variables in order to test that, but I also
logically look at it like, Okay, yeah, you're putting a
foreign body inside of your body. Of course that might
have negative repercussions.
Speaker 3: Right. Every single thing we do as as a surgeon,
as a plastic surgeon, has risks and benefits.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So every time I see a patient and they say
these are my aesthetic goals, I give them options of
what I can do for them, and I say, every
option has a risk and a benefit, and then we
balance those out, and usually the patient and I come
together and we pick an option that has the most risk.
Speaker 1: Sorry, And that's what we're doing here, And I'm precious.
Speaker 3: The least risk with the most benefit, right Yeah, And
what do.
Speaker 1: You do with a patient who comes to you with
like a laundry list of shit they want to do,
and if they all want to do it all at once, Like,
how how do you handle that?
Speaker 3: That's a really good question too. So that demographic of
patient for me is usually my weight loss patient. So
I love my weight loss patients. They are some of
the hardest working, well deserving patients in my entire practice.
So whether they've had periatric surgery, whether they've been on
a gop one medicine. You know, they've lost fifty one hundred,
one hundred and fifty pounds and they have extra skin
on their arms, their breast, their belly, their thighs. They're like,
they got it, they got it going on. I had
a lady call herself a flying squirrel, and though that
was wild, it's like I got a good cackle out
of that.
Speaker 1: No, that's funny.
Speaker 3: Get so much arms skin after losing over one hundred pounds, Yeah,
and it's wild. So so yeah, I have so much
grace and so much respect for these patients. They've worked
so hard. So if someone wants the GLP ones have
worked so hard, so such a heavy, I love you,
such a heavy.
Speaker 1: They have worked so hard stabbing themselves with the stomach.
Speaker 3: So when someone comes to me like that, they've lost
one hundred and fifty pounds, they want their arms, breast,
abdomen back. But every way, Yeah, I can't do all
that at once. If I did that all once, that
would be twelve hours of surgery and you'd be in
a body cast. Like that's just not.
Speaker 1: Safe to do, yeah, and you'd probably die. I mean
that's we see like all these people going to get
laundry list surgery in other countries that are unregular. They'll
do it, and then they don't do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll go to Columbia. Yea, Venezuela. I saw patient today.
They had a bunch of shit done of it. Sorry,
am I allowed to Yeah? Of course, okay, it's podcast
a bunch of shit done in Venezuela. And wow. Yeah,
so now she has to pay double here, you know, yeah,
double the cost. Do they get it redone?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So so we'll come to you with the whole list.
Do you just like stage it out by like, this
is what we can do, Q one, This is.
Speaker 3: What we can do Q two. So we make a
priority list. That's like the first thing I do with
my weight loss patients. I say, what are your priorities? Like,
what are the areas of your body that bother you
the most? What do you think about every day you look,
you get up in the morning, you get dressed for work,
you look in the mirror, what's the first thing you're like, Oh,
I could only get rid of this, my clothes would
fit better for work, or I'd feel more confident. When
we went to the pool, or something like that. So
we prioritize the whole list talked to about them one
through six whatever it is, and then I break off. Okay,
while I can do your arms and your breast together,
those go really well, and so maybe we take a
slow stage one. We'll do arms and breast. You also
want abdomen and thighs, then I can do that for
the next stage. So we bite it off kind of
piece by piece. Makes it really manageable for people. And
then the recovery is manageable. You can actually like focus
your energy and your body's energy to recover on one
place at a time.
Speaker 1: Right, rather than everything all at once.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I look in the mirror and I am like, what,
my ass fell down.
Speaker 3: Recently?
Speaker 1: Recently, my ass fell out? What do you know about
asses falling down? What do you know about gravity? At age,
doctor Eric, I look in the mirror and I'm like, bitch,
you got it going. And then I looked at the
side and I'm like, where did that don't go?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: You know what it was because the nose empic and
I lost all my muscle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so some of it's muscle loss, some of it
is the change in fat composition, as well. So there
is some structure that's along with the muscle and how
the muscle and fat are connected. And so when you
lose volume and you lose structure, that's when you and
gravity takes over. Like skin, laxity is multifactorial, not a fan.
Speaker 1: So what can I do to get it? Do I
just have to do squats Bulgarian split squats?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean the best The best treatment for that
is multi factorial, which means you know someone who goes
to the gym at least every once in a while,
and you don't have to go to the gym every day,
but resistance training helps to build up your glute muscles. Also,
fat grafting is a great option to restore volume, not
to make anything look unnatural.
Speaker 1: Or so when you're fat grafting, are you just injecting fat?
Speaker 3: M hm. So I have to process the fat from
micosuction down to only the healthiest amounts of that fat
is composed of fibrous matrix with then the golden globules
of fat that everybody thinks about when I think about fat.
So I take out only the healthiest portions of that,
throw away the fibrous tissue, and then prep it when
I want to make sure it's the right size for
the area of body that we're going and then we
reinject it subcutaneously, so just under the skin, into the
into the tissue under the skin.
Speaker 1: And before you put the fat in the body, do
you say, are you ready to be a big, fat,
juicy ass? Are you ready to go?
Speaker 3: You put the fat motivation motivating, you have to speak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should speak some life into that.
Speaker 3: Fat enough motivation, fat motivation.
Speaker 1: Are you ready to be not hated anymore? You're not
the hated active in fat.
Speaker 3: It goes from the love handle yeah, to like handle. Yeah,
it gets handled on to handle to get handled.
Speaker 1: To get handled, And honestly, I think you should start
pumping that fat up. I think we should mantras Batman
should do something about that. Yeah, I think you know
everything's life, life is. It's all listening, So just you
may as well just talk the cycle. Just talk to it.
See if you get a juice your ass. It might
be more excited to let me know the results. Let
me know the results of the asses are juice.
Speaker 3: I do like that concept though, about taking bad fat
and making it into good fat. Yeah, I think I
should make a video on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fat that like you go from loathing to loving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, loathing to loving.
Speaker 1: I'm just coming up with your podcast names. Yeah, I'm
coming up with all your marketing because the rest of
have nothing else to do.
Speaker 3: I always need that you got a job. I always
need names, names for your ends. Like a lot of
patients recently called them wagons. They're looking for a wagon.
How big do you want the wagon? Things like that
monster truck or the monster stumps like a truck truck
more millennial oriented for sure, dun't dunmp truck, don't truck.
But one of my visions said monster truck, a monster
truck or monster truck tires, and that was one.
Speaker 5: Okay, if my ass looked like a monster truck tire,
that bad. I don't want anything looking like a monster
truck tire.
Speaker 3: Grave Digger. That could be the name of your monster
truck ass, Grave Digger. That's a monster truck name, is it?
It's a really famous monster truck.
Speaker 1: I know, I didn't know that there was famous monster truck. Yeah,
did you ever go to those? Well, I guess you're
from Kentucky, so you like probably did that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely go to monster jam monster. Take my son to
Monster Jam?
Speaker 1: Did you take dates when you were in like middle school?
To monster Jam?
Speaker 3: Is a pure yourely experienced.
Speaker 1: You know, you went by yourself, my family, you wandered
into it by yourself. What's the what are the other ones?
Grave digger, grave digger? There's a gold digger.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I can't I can't even remember it
right now. There's a lot. There's like Toro Loco. It's
a crazy bowl one. There's a shark one. If you're
what it's called.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, next time you go, you can text me
the next time I go, next time you take your kids. Okay,
I'm going to get into some of the listener questions. Okay,
what are your thoughts on easy gel under a filler?
Is it better than standard filler? I don't even know
what that is?
Speaker 3: So easy gel is a product that is made using
your own serum from your blood, and it kind of
reconstitutes it into a more like an optologous product, which
is a product from your body. What the fuck did
you just say to autologous is a product that's from
your own body?
Speaker 1: Is it PRFM?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's very similar to that. Okay, yeah, So.
Speaker 1: That's where they take your blood and they put it
in a centrifuge and then they get the platelet riche
plasma and then they inject it.
Speaker 3: But what I've noticed in easy Jail is like a
proprietary company that like you use the patient product with
their product, you can buy them together and then that's
what you use to inject. Okay.
Speaker 1: So my experience with PRFM is that it looks amazing
for like two weeks, yeah, and then advantage yeah, because
I think your body just reabsorbs it. Right.
Speaker 3: So the goal of that is the results are supposed
to be bimodal, which means you get a result right away,
and then you also get a result later on, and
supposed to be from the initial volume introduction, which you
get like the day of the procedure, and then slowly,
like you said, that kind of gets reabsorbed. But it's
supposed to stimulate growth factors, stimulate your cells to increase
college and increase the last and build a little bit
of volume for you there, and oftentimes they don't really
work as well as the companies say it.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think that's the thing. It's a bit
of a snake oil, right because I was working with
my injector in LA. Don't get I know I'm jealous.
I don't get me mad at me jealous, But I
was working with her and she was talking to me
because I do have hollow under eyes, and she was
talking to me about undereye filler. But I have this
fear now because I've seen so many things on Instagram
about how filler doesn't fully ever dissolve. Is that true?
Speaker 3: Depends on your metabolism and like, but yeah, I've seen
patients who've gotten undereye filler years and years ago and
I'm dissolving it over here. Yeah, five, six, seven years later.
So it's very patient, patient dependent. Sometimes people's body in
terends of what type of filler as well. There's some
fillers that are pretty gentle and clean, and there are
some fillers that are not as clean, right, and that
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Recommend people, right, which though, so that people know.
Speaker 3: I am not a big fan of juveidim.
Speaker 1: That's what I used to get my lips all the time.
I know, what are you gonna put my lips today?
Speaker 3: I love Riha. Riha is one of the newer fillers.
The technology is new, the process is new. The way
they handle their hyaluronic acid, it's new, it's improved. The
way I explained to patients is would you drive a
so juveidim patent is probably thirty years old, So because
of their FDA patent, they have to produce that product
the same way.
Speaker 1: Like right per the patent.
Speaker 3: So for thirty years they've been making the same filler.
Would you drive a car that's thirty years old?
Speaker 1: Well, it's vintage and that's kind of stylish. Well my
vintage lips, My vintage dick sucking lips. All right. No.
I did Jupiter for a while and then I got
a little filler blindness and I went into this girl.
I was literally just going to like laser away, oh God,
and I was going to this girl car. Yeah, heart
be still my heart. And my lips were fucking stupid,
and I was like, but I loved them. And remember
my lesbian best friend Ali and then one of my
really good friends from high school, Trevor. Both of them
were the only two that were like you look fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will put a picture in of that, because like,
I really thought I was doing something, and Alice's like,
you look like you've been like sucking on the inside
of a bottle. Like she's like, she's like, it wasn't
there was something else we know, we know, you know
when you're a kid and you put your lips in
the bottle like a fish. That really okay, well baby
hoes did that? Baby house?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: H I ts no, but I got filler blindness. And
I finally went to so Amy is the as the
injector that I work with in l A and she's brilliant.
And I went into her and she's like, we're dissolving
your whole lips just like I can't even you have
to do that.
Speaker 3: Give it, give it, give a reset, Let everything heal,
and then you can expertly precisely you know, see, thank you.
Speaker 1: She we're making them a little bigger today, I.
Speaker 3: Think, okay, a little. I wouldn't say a little.
Speaker 1: They look great right, just like this, they're wrinkled.
Speaker 3: Do you see that that's supposed to happen. That's called
that's called normal anatomy, natural like a little you can
do a little little pop, little pop.
Speaker 1: But Amy, when I went into her, she made me
dissolve it all because she has a rule where she
will not work on someone else's work. Do you have
that rule? I like that so.
Speaker 3: Surgically or non surgically.
Speaker 1: No, I mean I guess no, you can't have that
rule because if someone comes to you with like something
a different surg fucked up, you have to be able
to do it. But like I I guess for like
lips and that kind of like more minimally invasive stuff.
If someone came and has like, you know, crazy lips.
Let's just use my example, and they come and tell
you to do more, will you.
Speaker 3: Be like, oh, absolutely, I say we got to disolve this.
You gotta start all over. We need we need like
a hot reset. Yeah. And most people are pretty receptive
to that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There are a couple of people who have been like, okay,
you know, not for me, and I'll go, okay, well
I'm not for you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How painful is dissolving lippiller? Have you ever done it?
Speaker 3: Because I myself, I don't think it's too.
Speaker 1: It's so painful. Fuck you, you have to know this.
It is the most It should be used as a
torture tactic for the military.
Speaker 3: You must have had some nasty filler in there or something.
Speaker 1: Well, it's Jupiter I was dissolving by vintage Cadillac.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're probably paid for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it hurts so bad, like my eyes were involuntarily
just like frying.
Speaker 3: The lips are sensitive too, so whether you're doing filler
in the lips or dissolving the filler, this so pretty sensitive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So your thoughts on easy jel are yes
or not.
Speaker 3: Depends on the patient.
Speaker 1: Okay, but what would a better alternative be for under it?
Because this is what are you using for your under eyes?
Because they look great and I know you're stressed out
and you work late.
Speaker 3: Thank you. A lot of skincare. I do a lot
of skincare.
Speaker 1: What skincare tell us the girls want to know.
Speaker 3: So I'm an Alastin girly myself, so I love Alastin products.
My basic skincare routine is gentle cleanser. Then I start
with my serums, which are HA and Elastin restorative skin complex.
Then I go vitamin C for the day okay, then moisturizer.
Speaker 1: Why is it that you can't use vitamin C at night?
Speaker 5: You can.
Speaker 3: It's just like more productive during the day when the
sun's out and you're like making free radicals during the
day because there's sunlight you can use it. Nic Free
radical is like when the sun hits your skin, it
causes some skin damage, and there's DNA that keeps fragmenting
and it's going all over the place. And so we
have natural pathways in our body that scavenge all those
free radical DNA pieces that keep those from harming you. Okay,
So vitamin C supports your body in that process. Okay,
So vitamin SEE during the day and then retine or
treton and retinol product at night.
Speaker 1: Okay, then that's it. You're not doing anything else at night.
What are you doing for the underage specifically though it's
a little break.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have any targeted treatment for my under eyes.
I mean I have like good fat pads. That's kind
of the most important thing as you're aging to support that.
Which sculpture is something that can do that occasionally, your ads.
Speaker 1: We're going to do that today too. Let's talk about sculpture.
I had a few girlies that were interested in understanding it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sculpture and radis are the only two biostimulator products
that we have. What that means is they are not
filler and they are not botox. It's a category all
to itself. So these two products stimulate the body to
regenerate itself. These are like regenitative medicine products. So that's
why it's a whole new category of medicine. Like stem
cells and regenitive medicine is like the frontier of not
only aesthetics, but all of medicine. You know, we're trying
to figure out how to grow kidneys for people that
new organ transplants and livers and all these other things.
So it really is the frontier of aesthetic medicine and
all of medicine.
Speaker 1: Right, and then what do you think we're going to
be seeing in the next couple of years in terms
of stem cells and like exosomes and all that stuff
sort of coming yeah, front center.
Speaker 3: We already offer a product by the company called Acorn.
They're based out of California, I believe, and that's where
they have most of their labs. But they actually take
hair follicles. They take about fifty hair follicles. They take
the stem cells from your hair follicles and make a
they call secret tone. It is like a super active
prp a super active PDRN. It's your own stem cells.
It's your own DNA. It's really really potent, really really powerful,
and that's available right now.
Speaker 1: But what are you using that on?
Speaker 3: So for the FDA, it's only supposed to be applied topically. You,
So what we would do is a treatment like micro
needling or a CO two laser that creates micro needles
micro channels in the skin, So you would use that.
Speaker 1: So when I did my CO two laser with you,
you did the PRRP, but you would do that instead.
Correct And then what are you seeing? Like substantial difference
in patients.
Speaker 3: We're seeing a really big improvement in not only recovery
from that procedure. So whether it's the micro needling or
the laser, like speed to recovery is super fast. We're
also seeing like a crazy skin glow, like an enhancement
in that patient's is their overall it looks great.
Speaker 1: That's so exciting. I've seen like the Kardashians go down
to Mexico to do sort of I don't even know
what they're doing down there. Take it's some sort of
have you seen this? I haven't, Okay, so I'm gonna
have to articulate what it is.
Speaker 3: I think they're doing like kept up with the Kardashians.
Speaker 1: You haven't kept up with the Kardashians, and how dare you?
It's uh, let me just google it because I want
to see what it is exactly, so I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's some sort of like gene therapy or
a stem cell treatment.
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Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with that, but I know a lot
of orthopedic doctors use PRP treatment and joints and things
like that. Yeah, for like right now in the US. Yeah, No,
similar to that.
Speaker 1: I did that. I have hip displasia, and right before
the pandemic, I was getting really bad hip pain. I
was doing hot yoga, and I went into an orthopedic
doctor and he told me I have hip displasia, which
I never knew before. And he said that like my
labor m was completely gone, like I had completely worn
it off. And he was like, you're gonna need hip
surgery probably before you're forty, and well.
Speaker 3: That just his hip displasure is that way his way
of telling you you got a fat ass or something hip.
Speaker 1: You know what hip displayia is. It's like German shepherds,
get it. They dragged their high legs around the yard.
That's your girl, right, that's your girl. Yeah. Literally no,
But he was telling me, he was kind of freaking
me out, saying you might need like a full hip
replacement soon. And he's like, well, what I can do
is this PRP treatment to see if it works. And
I had to get an MRI first, which, by the way,
the MRI needle and that whole experience was like one
of the worst experiences in my life. How have they
not figured out how to make the MRI needle, I
don't know less like a flagpole. Like when they put
it into my I was just like, oh, I'll die.
I was like, oh, I'd rather die, like just shoot
me in the fucking.
Speaker 3: Mouth like you should hate MRI people. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Truly, don't mean so painful. But then when I did
the actual injections, it was three injections. It's not covered
by insurance because of course not, and it was twelve
hundred dollars per injection, very pricey. But I will say
I got it in twenty eighteen and I have had
no pain in my hip and it's twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that like PRP works people, PRP works, and
I'll swear by it because it completely regenerated my labor.
You got it on your face, I got PAP on
my face. I got PRP or else did I get PRP?
Oh yeah, I did? Be entire facials?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So this this Acorn company, which they've branded a Secret Home.
It's like a super PRP, a super PDRN like exosomes,
all that stuff packed in one and very very concentrated,
and it's your own material, so there's no risk for
rejection or anything like that, right, and used very similar
in the way of the PRP is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, great. So I was telling you last night
at dinner that I had a surgeon in Turkey. So basically,
my boyfriend was going to get a hair transplant surgery.
And I was like, well, well you're in Turkey, I
mean as well just like go get some work done.
And it's crazy, I know what am I doing with
my life? I was bored. But I set this surgeon
a picture of my face and I said I wanted
an upper bluff and maybe a lower bluff. And what
he did was returned it with red arrows all over
my entire face, saying you need a facelift. And I
am so open to getting a face lift. I don't
think it's time for me to get a facelift yet.
Maybe in like ten or fifteen years. Yeah, but I
what is it going to look like for me? Because
I have had filler in my face. If it truly
doesn't dissolve, what is that going to look like for
Are you able to get a facelift?
Speaker 3: Once you absolutely you're absolutely able to get a facelift,
So filler dissolves some of the way. You know, a
lot of times the patients that are left with a
little bit of filler, it's like remnants of the molecules
that are binding that filler together. That's something that happens
through the production process. So that's why it matters which
brand of filler you're using. So the dirtier the production
process is, the dirtier that hyaluronic acid is. So the
newer fillers have such a better production process. There's so
much cleaner and you're truly getting an AHA molecule that's
closer to your natural anatomic hyonic acid that already exists
in your body. So using better products there's always better
for you. But even though you've had some juiterm or
older products like that, it's still okay, you know, because
I got.
Speaker 1: That all dissolved out. That's not in me anymore.
Speaker 3: And that's always an option as well. If someone has
a heavy burden and a certain location of their face,
they can always get get it dissolved.
Speaker 1: Could it dissolved and but there are things going around
on TikTok and instagram saying that even if you try
and dissolve it, it won't.
Speaker 3: I think that's bogus. Any filler that has that is
hyuronic acid based can be dissolved. We use hyaluronidase, which
literally means hyalurionic acid breaks down. That's literally what it
does like chemically.
Speaker 1: So this is maybe just like another fear bongering thing
that's going around.
Speaker 3: So there are things that you can inject that are
not hyaluronic acid based. There are like fillers that are
permanent fillers that you cannot dissolve, So those you have
to be careful for. So be careful know what's being
injected in your face?
Speaker 1: Well, which ones can't be dissolved?
Speaker 3: Which ones can't be dissolved. I'm blanking on one of
the names.
Speaker 1: That's okay, well names, I'll put it on there.
Speaker 3: But one of them. So biostimulators, that's kind of another one.
People talk about that filler. Biostimulators are not filler, So
sculpture and radius are not fillers. Those are biostimulators. So
there's something different.
Speaker 1: And do you think how long are the biostimulators lasting?
Speaker 3: Depends on your treatment, like how many sessions of treatment
that you get. But I've had patients where results will
last two years, maybe even more. And then once I
get someone to a happy place with the biostimulator, I say,
come back annually and get like a touch up to that. Right,
that just kind of keeps the top, spinning, maintenance, maintenance pace, gotcha?
Speaker 1: Okay, one, not one more question? We have so many
more questions. Okay. I have two kids four and three
years old. Would maybe like to have one more in
the future. I'm twenty eight. Should I get a boob
job now or wait until after the third? I've also
breastfed both of my kids and one plan to do
the same with the third. My boobs are not as
perky as they were before the kids, and after breastfeeding
look like deflated water balloons.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I see this probably every day. Yeah, so wait,
wait till you're done having kids. Yeah, because once we
do surgery, when I do surgery, I make it right
and tight on the day of surgery. Right, you go
and get pregnant the next day, no guarantees. Yeah, so
you know your breasts are gonna grow, the skin's gonna
stretch again. Yeah, everything's gonna like wait, it's gonna be
a whole thing again, all over again. So wait till
you're done having kids to have your breast done, or
you're after it. Wait.
Speaker 1: Okay, And then this one was from a gentleman. He said,
how can husband's best be supportive of wives who want
post pregnancy work done, pay the bill.
Speaker 3: That is like the best question I've ever heard. Thank
you whoever asked that? Ye Phil from Omaha.
Speaker 1: Yah, thank you.
Speaker 3: Phil for Omaha. Yeah, like that is the best question
because I do see supportive husbands, I see terrible husbands.
I see the whole spectrum. Let your wife run the discussion.
It's her body, the surgery, Phil from Omaha, whoever this
guy is, The surgery is not for you. Let me
tell you. It's not for you. It's for her. It's
always for mom. It's not for the dad. There's so
much that goes in with pregnancy and having children and
your own personal journey with your body and changes and
then recovery from that. It's a wild ride.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's not only just a physic massive physical change,
but it's also such a dramatic hormonal change. Like women
just go through so much with pregnancy, and I don't
think we really talk about it too much as a
society for whatever reason. But you know, the friends that
I've had who have had kids afterwards, like the number
one thing I hear them say is like there's you know,
they're so happy, they love their kids, but also they
miss their body.
Speaker 3: I hear that every day every day.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's like, even if they bounce back
phenomenally and I'm like, you look great, they're like, but
it's different. You know, my stomach is sagging, my tits
are sagged. Like everything's like a little it's always.
Speaker 3: A little different, like you said, even if they had
a great recovery, and even if they're feeling good, it's
always different.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Different isn't always bad, but when things are stretched out
and things are lower, and that's bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 3: So that's one of the reasons why I do what
I do, so I can give confidence back and stuff.
That's that's the best part of my job. So how
to best support your wife? Let her run the show,
let her research surgeons help her, but don't don't drive
the boat on that. And obviously the bill, Ye, she
needs to find a surgeon that she's comfortable with. Like
it really is a personal journey, and you got to
find a surgeon that you're comfortable with, a surgeon where
you like their aesthetic goal, you feel comfortable like working
with them, talking with them, you feel like you can
ask them any questions because you know it's it's a
whole thing, having surgery on your body. These are like
areas that you know you've breastfed from your breast before.
Sometimes they're sensitive, it's a it's a sensitive they're sensitive.
Speaker 1: And then you should know that, doctor, Eric, you should
know that.
Speaker 3: I do know that. That's what I'm trying to say
it it's a very sensitive area, you know. Yeah, so yeah,
A lot of times on the advent, I'm removing C
section scars. There's a lot of emotion around that. Good emotions,
bad emotions. Sometimes if women have had a difficult delivery,
or they maybe they had an emergency see section or something,
there's some trauma you know, associated with that. So for
me to be able to take that out and give
them a really fucking good looking scar and boost their
confidence through the roof like that makes my day little
honored to do what I do.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Surgically, what is the best way to get rid of
stretch marks and access skin on the stomach after having babies,
tummy tech or are there any effective non surgical route.
Speaker 3: This is a rough question because the answer is not
what I want it to be. The answer is, if
you have a stretch mark. Truly, the only way to
treat it is to remove it, like you have to
cut that skin out.
Speaker 1: Okay, So how do you prevent I guess maybe the
better question is for I mean, it's not going to
help this person who asked, but how do you prevent? Yeah? Sorry?
How do you prevent stretch marks when you're getting pregnant?
Is there a way to do it?
Speaker 3: There's a combination of reasons why stretch marks happen. So
some of that is genetics can't help you there, sorry.
Some of that is the speed at which the skin
is stretching, so like through the trysters, where you're growing
a little faster, you have a little higher risk. Also
the amount of skin stretch, so if you have a
massive fucking baby, you're gonna stretch a lot more than
maybe someone that has a little tiny baby. That that's
also something that's it's hard to control. But something that
is in your control is to treat your skin really well,
nourish your skin, hydrate your skin, and use some really
good products like I encourage my patients to use elastin
reform and repair. That's like I use that for my patients,
like before LiPo, after LiPo before body lift conjuring procedures.
It's like fertilizer for the skin, increases collagen, increases elastin
really like gets the skin ready to be torqued and
pulled and like totally manipulated.
Speaker 1: That's what you gave me after my CO two laser, right,
I think?
Speaker 3: So, oh it was.
Speaker 1: Very expensive, but.
Speaker 3: Dreaming, very expensive, but treating it's like me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, okay, So and then they said for the
lower abdomen, excess skin, the only way it's got.
Speaker 3: There's like unfortunately, yeah, there's not much you can do
about it yet. There are some non surgical devices that
can tighten a little bit, like a couple percent. Like
if you're going to sink ten K, fifteen K, twenty
k into ten treatments of some device and to shrink
your skin five percent, just get a time you just
got a tummy talk and look bang.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, So what treatments are available for tightening the
skin under the chin and jaw area. I had a
couple sessions of like bolists like L I P O
L y sis. Do you know what that is?
Speaker 3: By polysis hypolysis? Probably tabella maybe Okay. They were talking
about tabella.
Speaker 1: On my chin and it did work. But I have
a little loose skin now, which is bothering me. I
would love for it to be tighter without having surgery.
I'm thirty three years old.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of options out there. The best in
gold standard that I I think applies and I use
that a lot for my body procedures as well, is
removal on. It's the gold standard in surgical skin tightening.
It uses radio frequency energy and helium plasma to really
evenly distribute heat and contract the collagen fibers that hold
the skin like to the muscle. So you contract those
fibers and it pulls the skin like shrink wraps it
back down to the muscle. Okay, I've seen it do
some wonders. So if you have pretty good skin quality,
it will work even better. If your skin's kind of
stretched out and shoddy, it's not going to work very well.
But like someone who's a little bit do I need that? No,
you look beautiful, fantastic say this?
Speaker 1: You know what I hate when you say the most
these lines that are coming in on my.
Speaker 3: Neck, So horizontal lines are natural, there's not really I.
Speaker 1: Hate when you say this. I hate when you say this,
you say, horizontal lines are youthful, and I don't remember
being a child with lines.
Speaker 3: So for the best treatment for those is skin health
and quality. So like sculpture would really help you there, Okay, sculpture,
a little bit of dilute radiyes.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, we can do that, Okay, perfect, can't wait.
I have a lot more questions, but I can't do
all of them. I'm so sorry you guys. I thank
you all for submitting them. I thought I called them
down enough, but I obviously didn't.
Speaker 3: My mom, Mom, you're too busy talking about dump trucks.
Speaker 1: I know, we got really sidetracked. Okay, what is the
most I don't know if you can say that. You
can't say this because of Hippa. What's the most fucked
up experience you've had with a client? I don't think
you can. Okay, I don't think so. Right, you're not
like allowed to share that stuff. Well, I don't know.
It's always so confusing to me because remember that woman
that wrote that book. I think you should talk to someone.
She was a therapist, and maybe you didn't read the book.
It's an excellent book.
Speaker 3: But she I probably need to read the book.
Speaker 1: It's a really it's a really great book about therapy.
But she used like every single identifying detail about people.
But she didn't she changed their names. Oh so, I'm like,
are you allowed to? I don't really understand him.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can tell stories, I just can't release.
Speaker 1: Like who they are information. Okay, do you want to
tell a story about something fucked up? Do you have one?
What went the most horribly wrong for you?
Speaker 3: I have a good story about a fucked up interaction.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: So there's a patient I saw and she wanted bress surgery.
So she came in. She brought a guy with her
and they were flirty, friendly and everything. And you know,
so usually mostly I'm my own business. I don't ask
a lot of questions, only like pertinent to you know,
the medical case. I try to get to know people
a little bit. And uh, you know, she had this guy.
We met, we did the press consultation. She's like, yeah,
let's go ahead and have surgery. I said, great, my
coordinator will set it up. You know, we'll see it
for your pre opp see it for surgery, meet her
at the meet her in the office for surgery. We
do surgery. I say, who who did you bring with you?
Right after surgery, I go talk to the family member
and I go out. She said, it's my husband, so
I could do surgery. Surgery goes great. I go great,
we'll go talk to your husband.
Speaker 5: Go out.
Speaker 3: Not the same guy. During the consultation for for your
good news.
Speaker 1: Okay, good news, your wife got new tits. She's not
your wife.
Speaker 3: An well, I kept my mouth shut, totally mouth totally shut, sir.
Everything went well, she's safe, she's doing well. She just good. Good.
Nice to meet you, Nice to see you, Nice to
see you. Comes in for a post on appointment. It
was the first guy. What happened? That's pretty wild?
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: But I hope she's out there vibing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she has vibing with those new Today's. Okay, I
do word of the week on the podcast. You're going
to know this word, I think, but I want to
make everyone smarter. But you said a lot of words
that I didn't know already, so I already feel stupid.
The word of the week is edify. You know that word? Yeah,
what does it mean?
Speaker 3: Doesn't it mean? I don't know if I know for sure,
but it's like, isn't it to encourage somebody or like.
Speaker 1: Kind of something to teach someone in a way that
improves their mind or character. So like kind of what
you just did on this podcast.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: Everyone's guests pediphy.
Speaker 3: That is not the word of the week. That is,
it is not. I don't.
Speaker 1: See if you're worried about your SEO, you should be
on a podcast with me.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, well get me.
Speaker 1: I love you so much. I'm so proud of you
and everything you've accomplished. I think you do great work.
And if anyone's in the Chicago area or wants to travel.
Speaker 3: For you know, for something, Yeah, we have tons of
patients come from out of town. We have we have
a hotel partnership across the street. It's a really nice show. Okay,
it's at yeah executive. What else are they gonna say? Yeah,
I'm really proud of you. And I never if eighteen
years ago you had told me we'd be like doing
a podcast about aesthetics and one of us.
Speaker 1: Would be a surgeon in the other one will be
a community and I think we would have been like,
you've got the.
Speaker 3: Wrong to shut the front door.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shut up. Tell everyone where they can call you
on social media.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm most active on Instagram. I'm also on TikTok,
but it's doctor dr Dot, Eric.
Speaker 1: W Anderson, doctor Erganerson. We loved having you.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you,