1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,759 Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big 2 00:00:08,839 --> 00:00:09,640 Fight Weekend. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: Now here is your host, DJ leaves Well. We get 4 00:00:15,519 --> 00:00:19,199 ready for a couple of very intriguing fight cards, one 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,800 in Germany of all places, and then a world title 6 00:00:22,399 --> 00:00:25,760 fight card coming up from the Barclay Center in Brooklyn, 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,079 New York as well on Saturday night. We're in the 8 00:00:28,079 --> 00:00:30,719 preview mode. It is the Big Fight Weekend preview podcast. 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,920 I am the somewhat competent host, TJ. Reeves. We've got 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,600 some fight news as well, and we say hello to 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,159 our insider from Fight Freak to Night, the substack and 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,880 the newsletter in the brand new year. Here he is 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,320 playing a little hurt. You do not sound I say 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,439 this because I know already before we hit the record 15 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:51,840 button you don't sound as bad as you portrayed that 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,000 you're gonna be. But you are playing hurt here a 17 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:56,200 little bit under the weather. It's always good to be 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,600 with Dan Rayphield. You have posted you are here, you 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,000 were not gonna I'm here, not be here to give 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,920 a little insight in advance of the weekend. Good to 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,519 be with you, even if it is a little bit, 22 00:01:06,599 --> 00:01:09,120 you know, like maybe seventy percent Rayfield or sixty five 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,439 or sixty eight percent ray Field. 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm good enough to make it through the show. 25 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,599 I'm like I said to him, like an hour into 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,400 my most recent dosage of maybe they could sponsor the show. 27 00:01:17,719 --> 00:01:20,319 Got Lot's cough drops next to. 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,599 Speaker 2: My they should be a sponsor. 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: Oh here, uh, and so I'd be all right. I've 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,359 been I've been on my back for like three days 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,400 because my son gave me a call after he and. 32 00:01:28,359 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: My wife Happy New Year, Happy New Year, from your show. 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: My New Year's present from your son. 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,439 Speaker 2: Your son was in southern California with your wife, I know, 35 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:41,319 over the holidays, so all the travel everywhere, everybody's bringing 36 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:43,079 all you know on the south, we got we got 37 00:01:43,079 --> 00:01:44,359 technical terms for this stuff. 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: The gunchy exactly. 39 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: Gunch is going around and everybody's bringing it everywhere from 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,120 all over the country back to where they live and 41 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,719 they bring think it was and yes, and then it 42 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:54,560 all the gunch goes. 43 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,519 Speaker 1: There's not a flu because I'm not no fever. But 44 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,599 they got home from the trip to visit my in 45 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,879 laws on the third. We had a nice New Year's 46 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:04,319 Eve together and then my son was feeling under the 47 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:07,319 weather from the trip, and then a couple days later 48 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,280 my wife gets it. She's good now, and then like 49 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:12,439 the day after that, I'm down with it for auch Oh. 50 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:14,159 Speaker 2: It's the gift that keeps on giving right now in 51 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:17,400 the Rayfield household. But we're all right to do the show. 52 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:19,759 Let's get that rolling. Thank you for finding us in 53 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,280 the new year. Apple Speaker Spotify on the podcast outlets 54 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,000 give us a five star review that will help with 55 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,520 the algorithms. Again, I say this because some people may 56 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,319 not have heard the show coming off of the weekend, 57 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:34,759 the most recent one. Thank you again in twenty twenty 58 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:36,919 five to all of the audience, by the tens of 59 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:40,840 thousands of you, week after week, month after month that 60 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,159 have stuck with us and enjoy the content. We're here 61 00:02:43,199 --> 00:02:46,360 for you talking to Sweet Science. We do our best 62 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,639 to preview going into the weekend recap coming off the weekend, 63 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,080 and we got some intriguing stuff including, as you always 64 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,680 like to say, my boy Akabayel, Yes, the heavyweight, the 65 00:02:54,719 --> 00:03:00,759 Turkish kurd well, the Kurdish German is in action to 66 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,919 night unbeat or in action on Saturday Night unbeaten. Top 67 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,360 WBC heavyweight at the moment could could maybe be in 68 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,319 the title picture down the road. We'll explain all that 69 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,680 in a few minutes, but anyway, thank you for finding us. 70 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,599 Also find the YouTube page the Big Fight Weekend YouTube page. 71 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,560 Some intriguing action in the first part of this year, 72 00:03:20,599 --> 00:03:25,520 and we'll have some different content on the YouTube page also, 73 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,560 so go look it up Big Fight Weekend YouTube page 74 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:30,719 there as well. Some fight news in a little bit, 75 00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:33,000 But why don't we go sequentially because the fight in 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,960 the United States will be in the daytime. The Queensberry 77 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:40,960 Cards Saturday night in Oberhausen, Germany, where Kaba Yell fights 78 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:47,560 Damian Naiba for the WBC Interim heavyweight title. Kaba Yell unbeaten, 79 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,719 hard punching. We've seen him on these read Season cards, 80 00:03:51,759 --> 00:03:55,159 the Read Seasons Saudi Arabia cards, scores some knockouts over 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,719 the last year and a half or so. Now he 82 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:00,840 is headlining in Germany, right, so Dan, give me a 83 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:03,960 little more including a co feature fight that's an animal 84 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:05,719 lightweight title fight as well. Go ahead. 85 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: Well, as you mentioned, Cabiel has sort of made his 86 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,879 name in his last three fights, all three of which 87 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:14,919 have taken place in Saudi Arabia. On those cards that 88 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,480 have been there on the big shows that have taken 89 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,279 place there, and he's won them. He came in if 90 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:21,720 you go back to the end of twenty twenty three 91 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,480 when he fought Arslan Beck Mackmandov, he was I think 92 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:27,240 the underdog in that fight, and or at the very 93 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:29,439 least it was considered like a fifty to fifty proposition 94 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:33,240 because at the time. Now Mackmadou has been quite exposed 95 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,199 in terms of having a bad chint since then, but 96 00:04:35,319 --> 00:04:38,759 going into that fight, nobody really knew. And he knocked 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,279 him out in the fourth round and looked really good, 98 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,279 knocked him down three times and just absolutely destroyed him. 99 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,480 And he's been stopped since then. But that was sort 100 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,720 of a revolution type of victory for him, kind of 101 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:50,399 put him on the map, and they brought him back. 102 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:52,240 And then this was another fight where I think he 103 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,399 was the underdog against Frank Sanchez, who was undefeated. Slick 104 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,040 Cuban would also his pretty solid power that was in 105 00:04:59,079 --> 00:05:00,759 another one of the reas and cards. This was in 106 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,079 May of twenty twenty four, and he dropped him twice 107 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:07,519 and knocked him out in the seventh round, and you're like, okay, now, 108 00:05:07,519 --> 00:05:09,600 maybe we've got something here. So he's now won two 109 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,199 notable fights against two undefeated heavyweights, and now they match 110 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,079 him up with Zilly Zang, another fight where he's the 111 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,800 underdog probably in that fight, and they put again this 112 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,879 is now for the WBC Interim Heavyweight title. And again 113 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,959 at even if you thought that it was not he's 114 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:29,759 not a big underdog. Maybe it's a fifty to fifty 115 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,480 kind of proposition. And what happens. He gets knocked down 116 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:36,600 in the fight, He gets up and he takes Zang 117 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:38,160 out with the body shot, knocks him out in the 118 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,040 sixth round. So in his three biggest fights against two 119 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,199 undefeated guys who had some heat behind them, if you will, 120 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,920 at that point, combined with the fight against Zilly Zang, 121 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,839 who had already had a couple of losses but was 122 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:55,560 still considering a pretty formidable guy, he knocked all three 123 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,839 of them out the title. And so you know, now 124 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:02,240 this is sort of like this is the the gimme, 125 00:06:02,399 --> 00:06:04,480 this is the let's go home and celebrate. Let's go 126 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:07,040 back to Germany, where he hasn't fought for several years, 127 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,439 you know, since twenty twenty three was the last time 128 00:06:10,439 --> 00:06:12,079 he fought there, And this is you know when he 129 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,720 was European champion as opposed to on the world level. 130 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:18,639 Let's say, and Queensberry, who is this promoter now, who's 131 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,319 been looking to move into other territories. They obviously have 132 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,959 done events for sure, all through the UK. They've promoted 133 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,759 most of the events that have taken place in terms 134 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:27,800 of the ri ED season cards, they've been the official 135 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,879 promoter for most of those events. But they have aspirations 136 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,160 to expand they're gonna be doing this event in Germany. 137 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:34,879 It'll be the first of what will probably be a 138 00:06:34,879 --> 00:06:37,480 few over the over the year. They have also plans 139 00:06:37,519 --> 00:06:39,600 to come and do some events in the United States. 140 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,879 I think at some point in twenty twenty six we'll 141 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:45,040 probably see Moses a Tommy in America. Well, you know, 142 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,519 we'll have to wait and see how that works out. 143 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:50,639 But the point is they're taking him home to Germany 144 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:52,639 to fight Niba, Who's you know, it makes sense in 145 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,120 terms of from the regional point of view because Niba 146 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,240 is from Poland, so it's Poland versus Germany over there. 147 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,720 That's sort of like a big rivalry. It's maybe not 148 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,560 quite in the pantheon of boxing. It's not Mexico Puerto Rico. Right. 149 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,279 You know, it's still you know, a pretty good rivalry, 150 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,160 and you know, Niba frankly is sort of like, in 151 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:11,639 my mind, kind of the perfect deponent. He's undefeeded, he's 152 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,920 seventeen to o with eleven knockouts. He had been he 153 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,800 still is with top rank, and he's drawn some crowds 154 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:19,560 when they've had him fight in place like Newark where 155 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,959 they've got, uh, you know, a good Polish community. He's 156 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,800 not been very impressive to me. He's very slow, but 157 00:07:25,839 --> 00:07:27,480 he is a big man, and you know, you just 158 00:07:27,519 --> 00:07:29,680 never know. He's coming off of a bunch of knockouts 159 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,759 in a row, and anything can happen. You know, we've 160 00:07:32,759 --> 00:07:35,800 seen what happened when when when Caveo was considered the 161 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,399 dog and he stepped up and he knocked the guy out. 162 00:07:37,439 --> 00:07:40,560 So I don't think in a in a in America 163 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:43,000 or on the world stage, people aren't necessarily looking at 164 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,279 this as like an ultra competitive fight. But it's heavyweights. 165 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:50,000 It's heavyweight boxing because it is for the interim belt. 166 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,120 For whatever you think about it, it puts him instead 167 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,000 for the winner of being involved in a big, big, 168 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:54,480 big fight. 169 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,839 Speaker 2: That's where I was going next, there's a much bigger 170 00:07:56,839 --> 00:08:00,639 fight for Caba Yell against somebody, and you could say, 171 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,959 I don't know that Usik would ever fight him. He 172 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,360 could be in line to fight Alexander Usik. Stay tuned, 173 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:09,680 but you gotta win first. You gotta win on this one, 174 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,879 and then tell me about the the co feature fight, 175 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,720 which is also an interim lightweight title fight with Yadier 176 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:20,360 Herrera and Riccardo Nunez that will be on undercard in Germany. 177 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,879 Speaker 1: I think Herrera is a really outstanding up and coming fighter. 178 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,720 He was unfortunately because of his some injuries and some 179 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:32,399 other issues and then waiting for this interim fight. He 180 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,840 only had one fight in twenty twenty five, which was 181 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,080 a big disappointment. He's a Cuban fighter who's you know. 182 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:41,559 He now lives in the UAE fights out of Dubai, 183 00:08:42,759 --> 00:08:45,279 but he's he's undefeated. He's only twenty three years old. 184 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,720 At the end of twenty twenty five, I had him 185 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:52,399 very high on my top fifteen prospect list and I thought, 186 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,840 you know, and he was not a well known guy 187 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,840 at all. So they've landed in this fight and what's 188 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,000 interesting is okay, so he's fighting Ricardo Nunyez. If you remain, 189 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:01,440 we don't have to go back that long ago, TJ. 190 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:03,799 We go back like about a month ago. Didn't O'shaki 191 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:07,120 Foster and Stephen Fulton fight for the interim lightweight belt, 192 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:09,679 the WC interim lightweight title. That is correct, Well, that 193 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,399 was done after this fight between Herrera and Nunia's had 194 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,120 been sanctioned, and at the last minute, as you recall, 195 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,159 the WBC, at the request of PBC, said okay, fine, 196 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,879 this is what Stephen Fulton didn't make weight, and so 197 00:09:24,919 --> 00:09:27,360 instead of fighting for Oshaki Foster's one hundred and thirty 198 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,639 pound title, They're like, yeah, go ahead and fight for 199 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,039 the interim one hundred and thirty five pound title, which 200 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,200 at that moment did not have an occupant. And so 201 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,200 it's only based on kind of dumb luck. I guess 202 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,240 that the WBC didn't find themselves in a potential lawsuit 203 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:45,039 or some type of real jackpot because they already had 204 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,399 sanctioned Herrera versus Nunia's at their convention that took place 205 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:55,080 like literally like a week before they sanctioned Foster against Fulton, 206 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,159 and it was just good luck for them that O'shaki Foster. 207 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:02,200 You know within time frame elected to vacate the interim 208 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,399 title and return to the one hundred and thirty pound 209 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:06,600 division where he holds the full title, So that cleared 210 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,919 the way for her Era and Nunya to once again 211 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,000 be for the interim title for reasons that still don't 212 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,879 make a lot of sense, but whatever, And if you 213 00:10:13,919 --> 00:10:19,399 are familiar with these guys, Nunyas he's got a bunch 214 00:10:19,399 --> 00:10:22,639 of losses. His most famous loss is twenty nineteen where 215 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:25,600 he got absolutely decimated in the second round. This was 216 00:10:25,639 --> 00:10:28,879 at one hundred and thirty pounds by Tank Davis in Baltimore, 217 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,879 a fight that headlines on Showtime and that's the same guy. 218 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,440 Then he went on a three fight losing streak. He 219 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:38,759 lost to Badr Ghaziev, who was the Olympic gold medal 220 00:10:38,799 --> 00:10:42,399 winner in the last Olympics from Russia. He won a 221 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:45,200 ten round better guys I have won a ten round 222 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,000 decision against him. He lost to zaor Abdalaiyav by a decision, 223 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:52,440 and then he got knocked out by Rashiki over in Japan. 224 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:54,159 So he had lost three fights in a row. But 225 00:10:54,159 --> 00:10:57,240 then he put together a three fight winning streak against 226 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,360 lesser guys and then he got he got disqualified by 227 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:04,440 John Fernandez, who is currently the European champion. This was 228 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,799 in Junia lasher and now he's getting this opportunity to 229 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,480 fight against Herrera for this interim title. So obviously, Herrera 230 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,960 as the guy on the upswing, as the twenty three 231 00:11:14,039 --> 00:11:16,559 year old compared to this thirty two year old, is 232 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,039 the very clear and obvious favorite against a guy nest Let's. 233 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: Be even more honest. Nunyas is there to be knocked out. 234 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,360 I mean he will be knocked out, but I mean 235 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,919 I remember that Tank Davis fight and I've seen him 236 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,440 get knocked out. I think in another fight, I mean, 237 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,080 we'll say, can can Herrera do that? Will this go 238 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,879 some rounds? 239 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:37,759 Speaker 1: Herrera's got a you know, if I wish he could 240 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:40,320 be a little more active, but he is a very 241 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,960 outstanding young fighter, and if he gets past Nunez, which 242 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,159 we expect he will, you can have a serious player 243 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:47,559 at the one hundred and thirty five pounds division. He 244 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,559 may not be famous and well known, but if you 245 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,360 ever spend five minutes and go back and look at 246 00:11:51,399 --> 00:11:52,879 some of his highlights or watch some of the fights 247 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,320 which are readily available, that dude, is good, real good. 248 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,279 Speaker 2: I'll just add this, all of this is still the 249 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:04,399 same doubly BC gobbly goop debacle that you that you outlined, 250 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,919 where once again these organizations just do whatever they want. 251 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,399 They had the interim title fight set up only because 252 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:13,879 Stephen Fulton missed weight. What they should have said is 253 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:16,000 you can't win the junior lightweight title if you win 254 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:19,559 the fight. But the end result is the right thing 255 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:21,759 is happening here, which is what they already agreed to, 256 00:12:21,759 --> 00:12:24,360 and we'll see if Herrera becomes a bigger player at one. 257 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: When you say the right thing though, that's that's never 258 00:12:27,639 --> 00:12:30,879 in boxing. What do you even agree that there should 259 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:32,519 be an interim title available in this particular. 260 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I don't a different conversation. They that 261 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,799 it's a whole different We don't need to go fifteen 262 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:38,399 more minutes on that. But you and I agree that 263 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,000 a lot of that is silliness too. But because the 264 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:44,559 main reason, as you have explained, and as we know, 265 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:48,120 if there's some question because of injury for the champion, 266 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,120 or if the champion, let's say, wants to move up 267 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,000 and fight for a title in another weight division, those 268 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,200 are acceptable reasons, and the fight fans agree with us 269 00:12:56,799 --> 00:12:57,320 the reasons. 270 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,279 Speaker 1: For instance, what they're doing by making this for the 271 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,200 interim title one hundred and thirty five. They know that 272 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:07,000 Shaqurse Stevenson, who is the actual WBC lightweight Champion, his 273 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,600 next fight, which is coming up at the end of 274 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,559 Janua Try, is going to be for the one hundred 275 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,639 and forty pounds WBO title in a different weight class. 276 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:15,919 So if Chha course Stevenson is the winner and he 277 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,320 decides to stay in that weight division, then the winner 278 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,879 of this fight on Saturday is going to become most 279 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,320 likely the WBC lightweight champion, because as we've discussed, it's 280 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,639 not automatic in the WBC that you're elevated. As case 281 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,720 in point, what's happening with Shushu Charrington who's on that undercard, 282 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,159 which of course Stevens, but the likelihood would be that 283 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,399 he would be elevated. So there are some stakes. But 284 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,679 here's the upshot. Forget all the gobleego. If you want 285 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,320 to watch the event on his own, you're watching it 286 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,080 because a g Caabio has emerged as a top level 287 00:13:43,159 --> 00:13:46,440 quality heavyweight contender, and it's always good to watch youngest 288 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,600 heavyweights do their thing, and Jader Herrera is a tremendous 289 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,559 up and coming fighter again in with a good veteran. 290 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,399 He's supposed to win her era. But you see, if 291 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:58,360 he can get tested, that's the point of this. Forget 292 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,320 all the nonsense about interim titles. 293 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:05,039 Speaker 2: All right, Then we have a full WBC Junior Welterweight 294 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,080 world title fight in New York. This one, obviously, we 295 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,120 will pay a little more attention to its primetime in 296 00:14:10,159 --> 00:14:13,639 the United States, with Suprio Mattias of Puerto Rico and 297 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:16,960 Dalton Smith, unbeaten from England. Mattias when last we saw him, 298 00:14:17,039 --> 00:14:21,840 captured this WBC Junior Welterweight title on that fight that 299 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,919 was in the US Tennis Center in Queens, New York, 300 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,679 that card that Turkey Alaschic put on. He defeated Albert Poyo. 301 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:33,080 So Mattias was previously the champion two and was beaten 302 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:38,000 by Liam Parrow in Puerto Rico in a horrific performance. 303 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:38,519 Speaker 1: Where he is a different belt. 304 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: Different belt, yeah, different belt, but he has now bounced back, 305 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:45,039 won some fights, won the belt back, and Dalton Smith 306 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:48,080 is the challenger. There is some interest obviously in the 307 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:51,840 UK because it's a world title opportunity for Dalton Smith. 308 00:14:51,879 --> 00:14:54,080 So give me some more on this one coming up 309 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,279 Saturday night at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn in the 310 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:01,320 US on the Fresh Production pay per view card. 311 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Well, Mattias, if you've watched him, you know 312 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:07,200 he's one of the heaviest hitters in boxing. He's twenty 313 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,480 three and two. Twenty two of his knockouts are by victory. 314 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,559 He's never been stopped in his two defeats. One of 315 00:15:13,559 --> 00:15:16,320 those defeats was avenged, and as you mentioned, after he 316 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:18,480 fought and lost his title to Liam Paro, he then 317 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:21,519 won three fights in a row, two sort of lesser 318 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,399 ish kind of fights, but not not ridiculously terrible mismatches 319 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:28,120 against Roberto Ramirez and against Gabriel Golez. Valenzuela was always 320 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,919 given guys a tough fight, and then he got the 321 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,320 chance on the WBC to fight Peo for the title 322 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:35,840 back in July on that big card that they had 323 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,440 at the Louis Armstrong Stadium headlined if you recall, that 324 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,519 was headlined by the fight by Hamsa Shiraz against against 325 00:15:42,759 --> 00:15:46,559 Edgar Berlanga and Surbril Matias and Peyo put on a 326 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:49,840 good fight and Mattias, you know, he won a very 327 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,919 competitive decision. It was a majority decision. It was a 328 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,480 draw on one card, and he won by seven to 329 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,600 five thirteen on the other two cards. He won the title. 330 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:00,440 And Dalton Smith, who is from England, as you said, 331 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,120 he is the mandatory challenger. He was in attendance and 332 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,840 they brought him into the ring after the fight and 333 00:16:04,879 --> 00:16:06,799 they faced them off and took pictures and whole thing, 334 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:10,399 and Turkey Alshik was there and announced that we're going 335 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,840 to make this fight and it's going to be on 336 00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:15,960 what turned out to be the David Benavite's card, the 337 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,240 Night of Champions that took place on November twenty second, 338 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,960 So all right, that's going to add to get another 339 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,799 excellent fight to that big show. And then they never 340 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,720 actually consummated the deal, and Juanarengo, who was the promoter 341 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:30,720 from Fresh Productions and Matt Troom Boxing who was the 342 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,559 promoter for Dalton Smith, could not make a deal or 343 00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:35,120 did not make a deal, and they decided on the 344 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,080 Fresh Production side to not deal with Turkey for whatever 345 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,559 their reasons were, and he said I'm taking this fight. 346 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,440 They went to a purse bid they won for one 347 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,879 point nine million dollars, which seemed awfully heavy for this fight, 348 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:49,559 and he said, we're going to do this fight in 349 00:16:49,559 --> 00:16:52,159 Puerto Rico and give him a teas the hometown. And 350 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,360 then they changed up a few weeks later and said, no, 351 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:55,679 we're going to go to Brooklyn, New York and do 352 00:16:55,679 --> 00:16:58,120 it a Parklay Center, figuring, Okay, there's a big Puerto 353 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,759 Rican community, and forgetting about the fact that Mattias is 354 00:17:02,799 --> 00:17:05,359 not a known fighter in that community compared to a 355 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,319 Fielix Trinidad when he was knocking everybody out or in 356 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,920 Miguel Cota was packing a minute Madison Square guard and 357 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,880 a bona fide superstar. You know, just because you're Puerto Rican, 358 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,920 you just can't show up, particularly in Brooklyn. Those other 359 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,720 fighters are drawing in Manhattan at the Garden, which even 360 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,559 though they're close, it's a different You might as well 361 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:23,480 be in a different universe. You ever watched Seinfelder They 362 00:17:23,519 --> 00:17:26,799 talk about exactly. You know, if you're in below whatever Street, 363 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:28,680 it's not the same. You might as well be in 364 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,920 a different country. Yes, as my dear friend, the departed 365 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,759 promoter Gary Shaw once told me when Rock Nation was 366 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:37,400 still involved, in boxing, and they did a Miguel Coto 367 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,359 fight at Barclay Center, and Miguel was a superstar at 368 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,839 that time. They'd been packing Madison Square Guarden. He looked 369 00:17:42,839 --> 00:17:44,200 at me and he laughed. He goes, they just don't 370 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,599 get it, the Puerto Ricans. They don't cross the bridge, 371 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,160 meaning they're not going to go to Brooklyn for Miguel's fight. 372 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,759 And as it turned out, it was a lighter crowd 373 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:56,160 than your typical Miguel Coto fight. So anyway, the point 374 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,400 here is that Mattias and Dulton Smith is a really 375 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,000 interesting matchup. It's a good fight if you're a boxing fan. 376 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:04,240 For sure. Dalton Smith is undefeated, he's got a you know, 377 00:18:04,279 --> 00:18:05,920 a lot of people have thought highly of them for 378 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,799 a long time, has popularity in Sheffield, England, where he 379 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:11,039 is from. You know, he's done his job by beating 380 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:14,720 the guys he's got to beat and he gets his opportunity. 381 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,200 And the fact that they're doing this in Brooklyn, it's 382 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,079 a disaster because they've sold no tickets for this fight. 383 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,839 If you just look at the seat maps, I've seen 384 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,160 a few, it's it's negligible what there might be. Remember, 385 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,160 Barclay Center is where, like I said, National, Yes, it's 386 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,119 a big arena basketball in Brooklyn. 387 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,599 Speaker 2: Nets Home Arena. 388 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:36,599 Speaker 1: Used to have you know, the NHL, you know college basketball, 389 00:18:37,799 --> 00:18:40,519 major boxing events, I mean all kinds of stuff. It 390 00:18:40,599 --> 00:18:43,640 all is eighteen thousand ish, nineteen thousand ish for boxing, 391 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,319 something like that. If they've sold two thousand tickets, I'm 392 00:18:46,319 --> 00:18:49,119 probably overestimating number one and the worst thing of all, 393 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,799 and this I find to be fucking offensive. Now, I'm 394 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:54,240 never one to tell anybody how to make their money, 395 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,519 but I know a thing or two about the boxing business. 396 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,240 I've been doing this a long fucking time. I know 397 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,920 about pay per view. Also, you cannot take Surreal Matias 398 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,799 against Dalton Smith with an undercard of nobody's and put 399 00:19:05,839 --> 00:19:07,799 it on pay per view and ask fifty five dollars 400 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:08,400 from the public. 401 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: Well, you just won't have anybody buying. 402 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,559 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course you can. When I tell you 403 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,480 then it would be a gift from the Lord above. 404 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:22,759 If this fight could even do and I'm overestimated if 405 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:25,440 they did ten thousand, they should run around naked in 406 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,680 the street and just pray to their Lord. Yeah, it 407 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,079 won't even come close to that. This fight is soda economically, 408 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,079 and I feel bad because the fighters are going to 409 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,079 go in there and put their lives on the line 410 00:19:36,079 --> 00:19:38,559 and try to win win the fight, and you know, 411 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:41,039 for Dalton Smith to win a world title, for Mattias 412 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:43,440 defend the title, and they're gonna have no audience for 413 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,519 this fight. And it's unfortunate because in a different time 414 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,240 this would have been an excellent main event on a 415 00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:53,119 showtime card or you know, in some type of HBO broadcast. Obviously, 416 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,440 if Matchroom Boxing, which came up a couple hundred thousand 417 00:19:55,799 --> 00:19:57,960 short on the per spit, they did one point seven 418 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,880 to one million had they won, this would have been 419 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,839 a Either they would have ended up making a deal 420 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,200 with Turkey to put it on in the cart in 421 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,160 Saudry Arabia, or they absolutely could have done the event 422 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,759 in Sheffield and it would have been a great. 423 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 2: Zone, had an atmosphere and it sells out the arena absolutely. 424 00:20:14,599 --> 00:20:18,319 Speaker 1: So now, yeah, fight with nobody that's gonna be there 425 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,559 to watch it, and uh, it's a kind of fight 426 00:20:20,599 --> 00:20:22,799 where I can definitely see Mattias winning the fight. I 427 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:26,559 can definitely see Dalton Smith winning the fight. But you know, 428 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,480 fifty five bucks on pay per view Yeah, that's a 429 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,200 big ass right now. Man, that is a big. 430 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: Fight, especially when everybody else has been sticking things on 431 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,359 pay per view that nobody wants to watch and so 432 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,200 good luck. 433 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: But again, it's not it's not even the pay per 434 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,359 view part TJ. That's a problem. Like when they take 435 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,039 like the recent fight between that dude Jack and mckellian 436 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:47,480 for example, mm hmm, and they made it like twenty 437 00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:50,079 nine bucks or whatever it was. Like, again, it's not 438 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,960 a perfect situation, but I can justify that, you know 439 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,680 what I mean, Like, that's not horrendous horrendous fifty five? 440 00:20:56,759 --> 00:20:58,960 Are you fucking kidding me? What world do we live in? 441 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: It? I agree with you. What are we doing here? 442 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,319 As we say, all right, Mattias Dalton Smith is Saturday 443 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,400 night in New York. We will do our diligence. 444 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:10,559 Speaker 1: We don't even have an undercart fight that we would 445 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:12,079 even board the audience to discuss. 446 00:21:12,519 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: Uh. There you go. All right, some news and I 447 00:21:16,039 --> 00:21:18,279 do keep up with my Rayphiel substack in the New 448 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,599 Year fight Freaktion Night Substack. I read on my substack 449 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,160 earlier in the week that Dmitri Beebel is targeting a 450 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,200 return off of back surgery. You are breaking this story. 451 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,440 You had the quotes from his manager of adem Cornell off, 452 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,519 all right, tell me more about what this looks like. 453 00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:39,640 And it revolves around the IBF mandatory challenger because again 454 00:21:39,759 --> 00:21:41,200 I read you in the substack. 455 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,839 Speaker 1: You do uh and you know, let's be honest, I 456 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,119 do have you on my subscriber accomplice, so you get 457 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,920 the paid version, but. 458 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,599 Speaker 2: At least I got Yeah, you hooked me up. But 459 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,759 I read my info and I'm saying to the audience, 460 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:55,359 You're not finding this anywhere else. I'm propping you. You 461 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,119 got the you did the leg work, and I got 462 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:57,599 the intel. 463 00:21:57,759 --> 00:21:59,759 Speaker 1: So we had the surgery in August. Remember, you know, 464 00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:01,240 the going to try to do the better be a 465 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:04,079 third fight when things didn't work out and things went sideways, 466 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,000 end up giving up the title and the WBC. At 467 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,160 that point and when there was nothing specific going on, 468 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,640 he was like, you know what, he said, he had 469 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,160 this nagging back thing for like the last ten years 470 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,359 and it was getting progressively worse and it was time 471 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,839 to just deal with it. And so the decision was 472 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:20,680 made by the team that I'm going to have the surgery. 473 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:23,759 So he had the surgery in August and he was 474 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:25,200 gonna be out for a little while. And so now 475 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,160 he's feeling better, and as I spoke to that Dean, 476 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,319 his manager, he started to move around and starting to 477 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,359 do a little light training in the gym, just sort of, 478 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,279 you know, work out the kings limit, but certainly not 479 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:37,720 anything heavy duty. But they if everything progresses as they 480 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,759 feel it will, they hope that he's back in the 481 00:22:39,839 --> 00:22:43,279 rain in April and as the return fight. Even though 482 00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:46,359 they still would like if the if the circumstances were appropriate, 483 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,559 if the money was right, all the things that everybody 484 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:51,119 always says, they would certainly be open and willing to 485 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,480 do a third fight with better BF. But in the meantime, 486 00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:57,279 he still has He gave up the WBC title, but 487 00:22:57,319 --> 00:22:59,359 he still has the other belts and so the next 488 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,759 up and this has been long overdue, and frankly, the 489 00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:04,160 IBF has been even though they gave him a medical exception, 490 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,000 they've been generous with their time, and so has the 491 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:11,960 patience of Michael Eifert, who is the mandatory. So that's 492 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,319 the fight they're planning to do come April. 493 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: All right, get a good drink of that water, by 494 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:20,720 the way, because Dan again's playing a little bit under 495 00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:25,160 the weather as well, so that I mean again this 496 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:27,559 we're looking at bigger things. Maybe could end up fighting 497 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,640 David Benavitez, although Benavetez is gonna move up to cruiserweight 498 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:36,200 to fight against Zerto Ramirez. But I know when you 499 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,079 and I talked, that may not necessarily be a permanent 500 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,680 move for Benavitez. And certainly I said to you before, 501 00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:46,960 it is a big time, commercially lucrative fight if it's 502 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,799 an undisputed title fight with beevil who has beaten Canelo 503 00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:53,599 in the United States fights. Listen to me playing amateur 504 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:56,119 matchmaker again here on the pod fights Benavidez in Las 505 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,440 Vegas on a pay per view. That's an intriguing fight 506 00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:02,000 if it to ever come about. But certainly the first 507 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,279 step is he's got to address the IBF situation. 508 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: That's right comes down, So most likely they'll make the 509 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,319 deal for Eiffert, and uh, you know, it's a it's 510 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,480 a reasonable fight for him to come back from. I mean, 511 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:15,880 he's fought top guys fight in and fight out over 512 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,720 the recent past, and you know, if the Benavida's fight 513 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,440 could happen down the road, obviously that would be great. 514 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,440 If they could do a third fight with Better b Off, 515 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,960 that be fine also, so he'll have options obviously, But 516 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,720 in the meantime, two things have to happen. One, you 517 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,960 got to make sure you're physically sound with your back. Obviously, 518 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,200 that's your you know your your back. If he if 519 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,559 your back is messed up, you can't fight. 520 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: By the way, I've said this for all time, I 521 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,519 have a little bit of a bad back personally. I 522 00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:42,720 know others that have. I know others that have had 523 00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:44,960 back surgery. I know athletes that have had back surgery. 524 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:48,200 There is no such thing as minor back surgery. Once 525 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,200 you once you have had back surgery, your back is 526 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:54,000 always going to be some kind of an issue. We 527 00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:56,599 don't know to what extent. Again, he's an elite athlete, 528 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,480 we get that, but there is no such thing as 529 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,400 my that's my or back surgery. And you're right, you 530 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,559 got to get a fight under your belt, especially before 531 00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:07,319 you're going to fight somebody that is a let's say, 532 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:09,480 a world class fighter like what a Ben Avidius or 533 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,440 somebody bigger, or maybe the third fight with better Vida. 534 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:13,599 Speaker 1: What I mean, Eifford is not a known guy, but 535 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,319 he you know, he did defeat Jean Pascal for example, 536 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,000 to get the opportunity. A Pascal may not be what 537 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:21,039 he was at his best, but he's still you know, 538 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,720 a tough out for pretty much anybody. And so he 539 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:26,119 did his job. And so you know what, I have 540 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,400 no problem with that. Bring him back when take out 541 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,160 the cobwebs. Hopefully the back is okay. And if he wins, 542 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:33,559 like you said, if he can get a third fight 543 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:35,839 with better, be great. If he does a fight with 544 00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:40,400 with with David Benavidez or or with uh you know again, 545 00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:43,279 maybe people will moves up again because you're saying Denividea 546 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,240 is going to cruiserweight to take on zero. I know 547 00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:50,000 he says he'd come back to super middleweight. It's easy 548 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,880 to say that now after you light heavyweight and then 549 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,839 you still got to then take off the weight. That's 550 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,519 you know, that's what you said Joe to do that. 551 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,079 Speaker 2: There might be some extra zeros in it though for him, 552 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:06,240 especially with Beebell being the more known commodity. Stay tuned, 553 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,160 stay tuned on that for Beebel coming back. All right, 554 00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:14,079 we mentioned before that uh James Dick, is it James 555 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,359 or Jazza Dickens. I'm trying to remember because it says 556 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,519 on my rundown. 557 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: It's James Dickens. Jazz is is nickname. 558 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I got him both right, then Jazza Dickens is 559 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,400 now going to be back in the ring, but it's 560 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,240 not immediate. He was supposed to be on this night 561 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,200 of the Samurai card. The Japanese fighter got sick. 562 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,759 Speaker 1: Got an orbital bone fracture. 563 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: Oh love, worse than sick. Orbital bone fracture. Fill in 564 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,400 the details, because Dickens is going to fight somebody else 565 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,279 and win, and this is maybe a more intriguing fight 566 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:40,480 going on. 567 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, this is a fun fight. That's why I'm 568 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,400 bringing it up. So, like you said, he's supposed to 569 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,920 fight to sue me on the Night of Summer. On 570 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,319 the Night of the Summer I, which unfortunately had four 571 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,680 you know, notable fights, ended up losing two of them, 572 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,240 including the Dickens fight against Assumme. 573 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:53,799 Speaker 2: Uh. 574 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,759 Speaker 1: And so here he gets his fight canceled at the 575 00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:57,599 last min He's put in a good camp and he 576 00:26:57,599 --> 00:26:59,559 doesn't get paid, and it's obviously got to be depressing 577 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:02,039 and a real bummer if you're the fighter that's taking 578 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,960 the time and spent the money on a camp and 579 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,440 all that, and then sudden of your fight's gone, and 580 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,680 then it wasn't but a you know, a week or 581 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,200 two later, he's got another fight and this is gonna 582 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,400 be a fun one. I feel like this is gonna 583 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,799 be a fun fight. So Dickens is from England. He's 584 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:17,240 defending the WBA Junior lightweight title for the first time. 585 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:20,680 He's been elevated from interim after a Lamont roach went 586 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,759 to one and is no longer the WBA champion. And 587 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,599 he's gonna take on the former IBF titled are Anthony Cassace, 588 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,359 who is Irish, and they're fighting in Dublin on Saint 589 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,680 Patrick's Day. We can out Kassachi's from Northern Ireland. He's 590 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,279 gonna fight in Dublin. It's you know, you're Irish or Irish, 591 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:39,240 regardless of if you're in Ireland or Northern Ireland. And uh, 592 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,079 that's gonna be a fun fight. Dickens Casachi should be 593 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,000 an amazing crowd and I'll try to defend the title. 594 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:48,359 And you know two guys that are our guys that 595 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:52,440 started without anybody ever having expectations that they would reach 596 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:56,079 this type of level. They have both done that. Congratulations 597 00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:59,680 to them. They put on some fun fights. Dickens and 598 00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:02,200 men batter guy A Zayev who was the Olympic gold 599 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,440 medalist who had defeated Nunez. He was a huge favorite 600 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,279 when he was fighting Dickens for the interim title, and 601 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,759 Dickens went and knocked him out, I mean stopped him easy. 602 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,119 It was very shocking. Knocked him down I think like 603 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,720 three times in like three or four rounds, and that 604 00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:20,319 was a huge win for Dickens. Became the interim champion 605 00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:23,400 then obviously got elevated, so he took out an undefeated 606 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,160 gold medals. He was brought to that fight to be 607 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,359 defeated big time, and he did his job in Kasachi 608 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,359 has also had his share of quality victories. Be Warrington 609 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,880 obviously had the big win to get the title. So 610 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,160 look they're gonna match up. That should be a fun fight. 611 00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:43,279 Speaker 2: So that will be in March Saint Patrick's day time frame, 612 00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:44,240 Saint Patrick's Day. 613 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: Weekend March fourteenth. 614 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,839 Speaker 2: On March fourteenth, coming up for Dickens and Anthony Kasachi. Okay, 615 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:52,240 two other IBF notes before we were out of here, 616 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,440 because Rayfield's got to get some more cold medicine in him, 617 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,480 but you're holding up quite well. Not unexpectedly, Canelo Alvarez 618 00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:05,200 is not really interested in this vacant IBF super middleweight title. 619 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:05,839 Speaker 1: Eliminator. 620 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,599 Speaker 2: Jimi Mongia is apparently not interested either. 621 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,519 Speaker 1: It's not the eliminated teacher, it's for the actual title. 622 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: The vacant title. So Jimi Mongia is not interested either. 623 00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: Now it says on that one down exactly. So, uh, 624 00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:23,759 Terrence Crawford retired, vacated all the titles I got stripped 625 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:26,279 to the WBC, but vacated the other three. And so 626 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,960 now we're going to process where the various organizations are 627 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,759 filling the belts, and the IBF title is supposed to 628 00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:36,200 be filled by the number one contender, which is always Iglesius, 629 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,119 a Cuban SOUTHBA who is really good fourteen and zero 630 00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:42,599 and a badass. Maybe people don't know, but watch him. 631 00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:45,920 He can really fucking fight. And then they go down 632 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,440 the rankings to the next available guy to and they 633 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,279 basically send a note, you know, are you interested in 634 00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:53,119 If they say yes, they'll don't order the fight, and 635 00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:54,880 then they've got a certain period of time to negotiate. 636 00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:57,599 So next up with Canelo. Canelo did it turned it 637 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,519 down because he's afraid to fight Iglacias. He just turned 638 00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:02,839 it down because, as his trainer and manager, Eddie Renoso 639 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,359 had stated recently that he was still recovering from the 640 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,799 elbow surgery and he was just taking some time off 641 00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,279 after the Crawford fight, and that while he was definitely 642 00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:12,519 gonna fight again, it wouldn't be until probably the fall 643 00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:15,160 time frame, figure septemberish, like he normally would fight. So 644 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,039 they pass on the fight. Next up in line was 645 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:20,359 Haimi Mungie and I was like, Okay, Hoimy Muggy might 646 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,920 take that fight. You know, he hasn't been a world 647 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,160 champion since he was fighting at one hundred and fifty 648 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,240 four pounds and now he's at one sixty eight. It's 649 00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:30,160 a pretty good opportunity. And for whatever the reasons are 650 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,000 they turned it down. 651 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: Now, Camill, why can I interject? Is it likely just 652 00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:38,119 a financial reason? It's not enough money. 653 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: For what they never got. They never discussed the money, 654 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,559 so I can't say that they've never had a com 655 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,720 They never had a conversation, I mean, to my knowledge anyway. 656 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,119 But I'll tell you why I know this because Camille 657 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,240 a Stefan who was the promoter from Ia the Tiger, 658 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:53,559 which is the promoter of Iglesias, said that they turned 659 00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:56,079 it down. They it wasn't like they went to Camille 660 00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:58,519 and turned it down. They respond to the IBF. The 661 00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:00,920 IBF sends a letter and says, you have three days 662 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,000 or whatever to respond. If you're interested, let us know, 663 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:07,000 and you know, all over the fight Team Mongia. Sometimes 664 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,799 guys they just don't even respond and it just goes 665 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:13,279 and it just disappears. But apparently according to Camille, team Onngia, 666 00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:15,559 which is he's with zan For in the top rank. 667 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:19,960 But Zanfer responded and said, we have other plans, and 668 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,480 so he turned it down. I don't know what those 669 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,680 other plans are. I've asked around. I have not heard 670 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,799 anything concrete. I made some calls on that. If they're 671 00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:28,640 planning something, it's I'm not aware of what it is. 672 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,680 I hope it's something good, because you know, you don't 673 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,960 just get World championship fights and just dropping your lap 674 00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:38,079 like that. So now they'll just continue down the ratings 675 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:43,000 until somebody accepts the fight. I mean, it's it's it's 676 00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:45,440 it's normal course of the way the IBM does things. 677 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,759 But I was slightly surprised that Mangia turned it down, 678 00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:49,440 not at all surprised that Canelo didn't take it, just 679 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,559 because of the of the recovery and the fact just 680 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:55,880 made you know, sixty million dollars and isn't necessarily in 681 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,920 the hurry to get back in the ring against a 682 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,000 guy that nobody's. 683 00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:00,279 Speaker 2: Got to be. I'm just putting it together. Whether you 684 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:01,519 and I have done this long enough, I've been around 685 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,319 long enough and around post sports long enough, it's got 686 00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:04,920 to be that the money they don't believe is going 687 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,079 to be right and or they're not interested for that. 688 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,480 They don't believe that's not. 689 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: Going to be planned, and they just haven't made that. 690 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,920 They haven't made that particular whatever that plan is. So 691 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:17,359 you're aware when it now that now the Canelo and 692 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,400 Uhge have turned it down. So next in line on 693 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,160 the IBF ratings coms Shiraz But he's probably not going 694 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,599 to be involved in the fight either because he's involved 695 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,519 in the you know, he's been ordered in a WBC 696 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,680 fight Troy Williamson. Uh it just lost. So these are 697 00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:36,200 these are the rankings from last month, so they'll be updated. 698 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:39,720 And now you get down to the Russian fighter Pavel Siliyagin, 699 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,839 who I guess might take the fight. And next is 700 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,960 Diego Pacheco who's been ordered to fight Sharraz. So now 701 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,640 you're down number seven. Then you're getting into like Simon 702 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,119 zach and Gruber from Germany, who I frankly have did 703 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,680 have heard of, And then your boy number ten, Williams Skull. 704 00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: No, no, no, oh my god. No. 705 00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,799 Speaker 1: If you think I'm sick, now, just imagine I Williams 706 00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:00,559 Skull getting. 707 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: That is the Nike will talking right there, cold medication, 708 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,599 all right, So so Iglesias will probably have somebody, hopefully 709 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,559 not Skull before we get to Skull, and you'll keep 710 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,359 us up today. Listen who that is at super Miniwaight? Now, 711 00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:18,200 the IBF also has an eliminator at heavyweight. You've been 712 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,640 talking about this fight. We finally found a dance partner 713 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,720 for Frank Sanchez and Richard Torres. And apparently, unlike the 714 00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:29,720 IBF the super midiway situation where they can't come to 715 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,200 an agreement, apparently here we are close to an agreement 716 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,680 for Torres in a meaningful fight with Frank Sanchez here 717 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,680 at heavyweight. 718 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: Right, and the winner would become the mandatory for the 719 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,599 IVF heavyweight title, which is obviously currently held by Alexander Usig, 720 00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:45,799 who is you know, doing other things right now. He 721 00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:48,119 doesn't have to make this mandatory just yet. He's probably 722 00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:49,759 gonna want I think he's probably end up making a 723 00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:52,480 deal to do the Deontay Wilder fight. But in the 724 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:55,960 meantime they'll line up the situation for the mandatory and 725 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,839 Sanchez and Torres. From what I was told by both 726 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,160 sides and also by the iv they were supposed to 727 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,319 have a pursepid earlier in the week. They asked for 728 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:08,199 a delay. They were granted the delay because they claim 729 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,440 they are close to a deal and although it's not 730 00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:14,119 officially signed and all done, and they saw a little 731 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,800 more time where they could have it fall apart and 732 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,960 then would go to a perspit. But the point is, 733 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,679 if it does get done, and both sides expect it 734 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,079 will get done, probably it's gonna happen, perhaps as soon 735 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:29,039 as February on the PBC card, if they are able 736 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:32,480 to get finalize and get everything announced for what's supposed 737 00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:35,639 to be Mario Barrios against Ryan Garcia. If not that 738 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,280 particular PBC card would probably push into the March timeframe 739 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,679 where again not announced yet where, but PBC is making 740 00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:46,639 plans to reschedule the fight between Sebastian Fandora and Keith Thurman. 741 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,280 So if you can take a heavyweight fight like Sanchez Torres, 742 00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:53,800 which has meaning, is a huge step up for Torres, 743 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,920 and you put it as one of the supporting fights 744 00:34:57,159 --> 00:34:58,719 on what would be a four or fight pay per 745 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,920 view card, at least you've got like a decent fight 746 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,800 for that show and it has some meaning. We'll see 747 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,559 it on one of those two events, assuming they get 748 00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:07,480 everything hammered. 749 00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: Down, all right, So there we gave you some news. Again. 750 00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:14,360 We've got these fights. The fight in Germany. Again, they're 751 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,840 six hours ahead, so that'll be middle of the afternoon 752 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,000 US time. Yes, my boy a ge Kaba yell on 753 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:23,159 his own in the Queensberry card. And then again, good 754 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,559 luck if you choose to spend the money on the 755 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:29,280 Fresh Productions pay per view at the Barclay Center, where 756 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,480 it could be an intimate gathering apparently Suprio Matia, Idoltic 757 00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,280 Smith or Title. 758 00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,559 Speaker 1: If you're in the New York area, you could probably 759 00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,119 get a ticket for free or for super mega cheap. 760 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,280 Would probably cost you less than the fucking pay per 761 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:42,719 view on it. 762 00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 2: I would I would think so from what it sounds 763 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,920 like when looking at it. But anyway, Mattias and Smith 764 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,280 in the ring for the WUBC Championship. We'll be here 765 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,800 to recap all of it off the weekend. Feel better. 766 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,920 Back to the drugs, the vitamin C and chicken soup 767 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,800 and everything else for you. 768 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,639 Speaker 1: By the way, for the record, I did have chicken 769 00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,440 soup earlier and a Luden's cough drop. 770 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: That's the post podcast treat there for you. 771 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: We need a lot in subscription. 772 00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:16,039 Speaker 2: We need to do hit them up again. For the 773 00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:19,199 pod audience, we preview going into the weekend. We recap 774 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,039 coming off the weekend, so make sure you're following, make 775 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:23,960 sure you're subscribing. Read Big Dan in the Fight Freaks 776 00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:27,119 Unite substack for all the intel. Let's see what happens 777 00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:29,800 for these fights. We're back coming off the weekend with 778 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,119 the Fight Freaks Unite recap pod. You've been with us 779 00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:33,920 on the Big Fight Weekend preview