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Speaker 1: And hello, how are you welcome to the Big Podcast

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on this Monday. Today is the twenty third day of February,

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year of our lower twenty twenty six. My name is

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Tom Sullivan, and we've got a lot to cover here today.

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I mean, I first of all, let me reach around,

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bat myself on the back. We're here. You would think

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the lead up to the big to the big snowstorm

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the I don't know. I thought it was going to

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be next to nothing. One of my boys, my youngest son,

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sent me in a text message and says, are you

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Are you going to be okay? And I said, ah,

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it's all over hyped. Oh my gosh. We've got at

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least two to three feet of snow. I've never seen

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so much snow. It's it dumped a lot of snow,

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there's no question about it. And we're supposed to get

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more snow on Wednesday and then again next Monday, Tuesday, Wednesdays,

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so we're in a pattern of more. It's a snowy winter,

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let me put it that way. The problem with it

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is the airports, the New York airports, they fell up.

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Aviation all over the country because you may be taking

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a flight from San Francisco to Salt Lake City, but

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the plane may be coming from New York and a

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ninety percent of the flights out of JFK have been canceled,

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eight percent of the flight everything. I mean, who was

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the two percent that took off? Twenty eight percent out

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of LaGuardia. We're canceled ninety two percent out of Newark,

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and Boston's about the same, Philly's about the same. So

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it's all pretty much over all but some wind, and

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everybody's going to scramble to get their airplanes. The problem

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is they booked the planes so full that so they

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can't They don't have room to roll over the people

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from a canceled flight. It may take a few days

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for these people to get where they're going. In any case.

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The other thing about it with the TSAY, I still

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don't know the answer. But because of the fact that

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we've got the partial government shutdown affecting Department of Homeland

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Security and TSA is part of that, and so they

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said the DHS is so messed up, so mismanaged. In

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any case, they came out and said, yeah, we're not

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going to be able to handle the TSA pre check,

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which a lot of people have paid money and signed

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up for it's much faster. It's nice, I have, it's great.

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And then they came back and they said, a couple

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of hours. Okay, okay, okay, we heard a lot of griping,

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so we'll staff the TSA pre check, but not the

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global what do they call it, the it's the it's

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the situation at that global entry where you come in

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from the have to go through customs, and they weren't

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going to staff that, and so who knows what's staffed

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and what's not. But it's quite something, it really is.

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Oh and by the way, the kind of the sad

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funny out of this is like I said, a lot

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of snowdrop on New York and Mayor Ma'm Donnie came

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out and said, hey, help, we need we need volunteer

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snow shovelers. I've lived in New York now almost twenty years.

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I've never heard of this. They've got a couple of

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thousand trucks with snow blades on them, and I don't

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know what the I've never seen a volunteer snow shoveler before.

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But apparently they you sign up online in someplace and

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they pay you twenty bucks an hour. But here's the

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great part about it. You've got I got the list here,

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hold on, I got the list of what you need

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to have if you're going to become a volunteer snow

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shoveler in New York City. You must be at least

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eighteen years of age. You must be eligible to work

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in the United States, so no illegal volunteer snow shovelers

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for New York. And you must be be able to

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perform heavy physical labor. You better believe it. Snowshoveling is hard.

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But here's the registration part. You register online. You have

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to upload two small photos one uh uh and one

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half inch square. It's like a passport photo. Gotta send

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them two photos. Plus you have to send two original

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forms of IDs. So no, no, no, no copies. You

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gotta you gotta get the birth certificate with the perforations

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on it, and you got to send them a copy

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of your Social Security card. This is all for a

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volunteer snowshovel job. But you don't have to show any

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ID when you vote in New York City. That's that's

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the part that's sadly funny, sad and more than funny,

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but I'm going, what is wrong with these people they

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have They're making this volunteer snow shoe go through all

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kinds of hoops to become a volunteer snow shoveler and

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yet to vote. Just walk in and vote. It's crazy. Also,

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before we get going too far in the program, congratulations

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to the United States hockey teams plural. The men are

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getting all the attention today, but the women also won

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the gold medal for women's hockey. So the men and

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the women both won, first time the men have won

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since nineteen eighty the Miracle on the Ice, which I

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remember that game. It was exciting, and so was this

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game last night. But the difference between it is in

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nineteen eighty you could not be a professional hockey player,

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and that's one of the things that this team did,

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in fact get professional hockey players there actually are from

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all over the world, but they played for US hockey

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teams and they represented the United States. So first win

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for men since Lake Placid in nineteen eighty, and in

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nineteen eighty they played the Soviet Union. Oh my gosh,

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you know that was a whole different world then. But again,

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major congratulations to them. I'm thrilled for them. So on

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the big international scene, I think this is quite a story.

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El Mincho, I've never heard of El Mincho. I've heard

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of all kinds of cartels and some of the cartel leaders,

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El Chapo and all that. But this guy, El Mincho,

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was a former police officer in Guadalajara area and he

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became he switched sides and started his own cartel. They

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called the New Leader Cartel. It's very violent. Apparently he

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used to be with got he cut his teeth with

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the Sentinel Cineloa cartel. Now he's bigger than them. Well,

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now he's dead. And it was because of the Mexican

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military swooped in and got him and oh in Porto Biarta. Yeah,

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so the whole Halisco area. And it was because of

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the fact that the United States gave Mexico the intelligence

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on where this guy was. Here's Kim Dozer, who reports

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on all things of national security.

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Speaker 2: Well, one way to look at this is that the

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pressure seems to be working that Mexico took a look

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at the US action in Venezuela and okay, we're going

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to go after this incredibly violent network. Osageta built from

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being a policeman to being a Sinaloa confidant and affiliate

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to something much larger. But taken another way, the Mexican

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government's top security official had been targeted specifically by Osageta,

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so this was also personal. But you can see what

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a blowback has produced. This is a heavily armed cartel.

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They've even got things like RPGs, rocket propelled grenades. They've

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taken down a Mexican helicopter. So the Mexican government has

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to weigh the crackdowns against the instability that it can

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produce across the entire country.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they have equipment to take the fire to shoot

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down Mexican military helicopters. Major Mike Lyons also talks about

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the intel that we provided.

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Speaker 3: I think it's big news.

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Speaker 4: It's a big national security win right now for this

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administration that's putting pressure now on Mexico to go after

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these drug cartel leaders. He was wanted by the United States,

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but this time provided we just provided the intel and

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you know, kind of the playbook that we did to

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take out Maduro. So I think that you're going to

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see a lot more of this cooperation between the United

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States and the Mexican government. As they as this administration,

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the Trump administration, leans into this very much so, especially

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in this hemisphere, using all those same tools that we

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used again to take out the Venezuela leader. And you'll,

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I think you'll continue to see a lot more of

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it in time.

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Speaker 1: There's got to be at least a thousand American citizens

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in Port of r To and they are there. You know,

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it's cold here, so they go to Mexico for a

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nice winter vacation. One of them is the guy by

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the name of Scott Posselkin, and he and his friends

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are stuck.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Sure.

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Speaker 5: So I'm down here with a group of about thirteen

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of us and yesterday, Mark, yes morning, about seven of

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us left to go snorkel.

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Speaker 6: We were in our shuttle.

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Speaker 5: Which was driven by a local, and we were just

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heading down to the actual town of Puerto Vallarda from

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where perto Varda from where we're staying here. And we

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were on the road and we saw a bus, like

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a full coach size bus, a horizontal across the road.

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like the bus and hit a tree or something like that.

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the bus in a way they wentn't from an accident,

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and kind of while we were registering, a man with

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a gun came around the other side of the bus

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and kind of waved it at us and gave us

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kind of the hand signal to reverse. So one of

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the women who'd been on the bus ran up to

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the shuttle and asked if she could get in, and

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of course we let her in, and she explained that

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they'd all been forced off the bus by our men

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who were gonna like the bus on fire. We took

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her in our shuttle and we tried to go back

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in the opposite direction actually to go back to our airbnb,

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and we ran into another car on fire. So at

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this point we were sandwiched between these two cars. So

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we took the only turn we had available to us

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and went down to a smaller beach, and after just

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kind of just talking to the locals and deciding what

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to do, they said the safest thing would be for

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us to just go out on the water and hang

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there for a bit. So we went on the water

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and we hung out there and crazy to watch, you know,

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the town burning and all these cars being set on

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fire one by one. Yeah, and getting back from that

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was also quite a journey. No, it is very surreal

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and shocking. I also come to Mexico quite a bit

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up into weddings, you know, been tou loom, and I've

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been to Cancun and lots of other places. Mexico city

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like this. I've never seen anything like this in Mexico ever.

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And the locals are local. Who was running the boat

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that we are on. The local who was driving us

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told us that they grew up here and they'd never

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seen anything like this in their lives. And you know,

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we were definitely scared yesterday. You know, we had to

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walk back to the house on that road and that

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was pretty harrowing. We saw some people on motorcycles with

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weapons and that was pretty scary. But we made it

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back to the house. And now that we're all back

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here and together, you know, I'm lucky. I'm with a

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large group of my friends and we're stocked on food

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and anything else we would need, so we feel safe.

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I think we're all wondering how we're supposed to get

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to the airport between all the cars on the road

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burnt out and all the streets shut down, and I

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think all of our flights being canceled. But we're all

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registered with the state Department.

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Speaker 1: So you have a friend that's on vacation in Mexico,

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you might not count on them showing up for work

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very quickly. It's going to take a while for them.

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But this is Porto Iyarta, I mean, a major American

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tourist site, and they've got buildings on fire and cars

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on fire, and it will be interesting to see as

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the government pushes back for the first time I've ever

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seen against a major cartel and see if they have

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any success on it. Robert Almonte is a former US

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marshal from that part of the world.

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Speaker 3: You're an extremely vinent and Barbara cartel, responsible for many murdered,

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not only in Mexico but in the United States, and

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responsible for bringing tremendous amounts of methan fet I mean cocaine, fetanyl,

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and heroin into the United States.

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Speaker 1: So they're a big time operation, big time cartel, and

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like I said, let's see what happens from here. Dan Brunner,

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former FBI guy who did a lot a lot of

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work trying to defeat the cartels when he was with

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the FBI, had this to say.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm talking to a lot of people, a lot

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of my sources on the ground in Mexico, and it's

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essentially pure chaos. As you can see from the images there.

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i mean, it is all out warfare in certain parts

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of Mexico, and it's quite concerning. And certain cities there's

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zero public transportation uh CGNG and all the affiliates have

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threatened all bus drivers that and all taxi drivers that

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they're if they're moving their vehicles around, they will be

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shot and killed. There's videos out there of taxis being

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overtaken and just open warfare on the streets. So it's

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extremely concerning that we're seeing this and this is what

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it is, is is right on the brink of possible

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civil war because there are so many different factions under CJNG.

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umbrella of a conglomerate of numerous smaller cartels. Now, each

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one of these cartels, well they'll mencha being taken out.

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to try and vuy for that top dog spot and

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they're going to fight and they're going to utilize all

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their weapons. And your previous guests has said it, this

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was a small army and each of these have weapons

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grade you know, battlefield weaponry, you know, straight from Ukraine training.

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Speaker 6: So it's quite concerning.

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Speaker 7: It's excellent because I directly worked in operations like this

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while I was with Joint Test Force Vulcan and chasing

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MS thirteen members in Mexico, So I worked, I know

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very mentally, you know, directly firsthand of you know, providing

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intelligence to the Mexican authorities and letting them conduct the

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the you know, the event, the attack. And this was

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absolutely you know, pinpoint right on there and US intelligence

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providing us whether it be source intelligence for signals intelligence,

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and providing them all the information, the targeting data locations,

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letting them execute the operation, because that's important, letting the

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Mexican authorities execute the operation. And is here you can

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see this and from what you're here, a Menshall was

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put on a helicopter and died in a route, so

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which means that that they successfully were able to extract

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him somewhat alive but wounded, and he died en route.

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supported by US intelligence services, whether it be DoD or

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FBI resources which are embedded there in Mexican.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that we actually are are actively

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working FBI, DoD, you name it. They're working on trying

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to help Mexico get rid of these cartels. It's a

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big job. We'll see if they're successful. All right, let's

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get to the big stink which came out Friday was

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the Supreme Court ruling that the President of the United

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States does not have the power to issue tariffs under

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the Emergency Economic i EPA is what it's called. And

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they said, no, if it's pretty simple you read it.

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It's clear, Asabelle, Congress is the only form of our

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government that can do taxes, and tariffs are taxes. What's

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interesting about the big hubub about the Supreme Court ruling

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is people are now coming out and they are this

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is clear that you've got companies lining up already, law

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firms that are lining up to get their money back

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for the tariffs that they paid. Oh wait a minute,

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we were told that we don't pay the tariffs that

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the foreign supplier or foreign government pays the tariffs, Well,

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then why are our corporations lining up to ask for

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refunds from the government. The number from under AEPA is

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apparently one hundred and thirty three billion. There's about two

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hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of tariffs, but a

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big chunk of that was from other parts of the law.

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But i IPA, the Emergency Economic Act that President Trump used,

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that's one hundred and thirty three billion dollars that people

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want their money back. It was illegal the tax that

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they paid. And so well, Steve Moore, who is a big, big,

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big supporter, big fan of President Trump, was part of

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his economic team in Trump one point zero. He has

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been befuddled because I know Steve, and I know that

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he has been anti tariffs the whole way. But listen

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to what he says, Well, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 8: I've always been kind of conflicted on this because on

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the one hand, I don't like taxes and terriffts, and

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I do think that the Supreme Court has made the

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right decision and basically saying that these kinds of decisions

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really have to pass through the House of Representatives in Congress.

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Speaker 6: This Constitution is pretty clear on that.

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Speaker 8: On the other hand, the Court has basically taken an

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arrow out of the quiver of Trump's negotiating strategy. And again,

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as someone who's not a fan of terrorists, I am

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a fan of the terror These trade deals that Trump

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has brought home, the trade deals with China, the trade

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deals with Canada, Mexico, or Europe. He has forced other

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countries to lower their terrorists and our goods. And now

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he's sort of lost that negotiating tactic. So that's I

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think one of the reasons Trump was so angry about

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this decision.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's angry, all right. In fact, I'm not going

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to put it in this podcast, but following after I

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finished with this podcast, I'm going to post he came

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to the to the press room at the White House

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after the Supreme Court decision on Friday, and he read

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a rather long statement of objection and then took questions

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and answers. I'll put it. It's a long one, so

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I will post it in a separate podcast, a special

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podcast to follow this one today, So look for that

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in your podcast list when we're done. But yes, this

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was questionable from the get goats, but he took a

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risk that he could pull this off. The problem with

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it is Steve's talking about all these great deals. Well,

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what's happened is the European Union has said, yeah, we're

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going to delay our vote on the US trade deal.

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They haven't approved the trade deal that they made with Trump,

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and Australia and the European Union are talking about doing

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a trade deal between those two countries and just going

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around US, totally ignoring the United States. Australia and the

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European Union. India put the brakes on the work that

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they're doing on a trade deal with the United States

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that Trump had put together. They said, nope, hold on,

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hold on, We're going to stop on this to figure

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out what is going on with all of this. So

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there's a lot of people that have done the calculation

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already that if we got about this fifteen percent tariff

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that he's all of a sudden laid on every country

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for everything, this universal tariff, which is not allowed. The

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law says, you've got to do one on one and

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you've got to establish an investigation as to what this

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particular country's doing, and then you can come up with

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a tariff that will be in agreement. So we still

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try to run roughshot over just fifteen percent on everybody.

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But if it turns out that's fifteen percent on everybody,

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that actually will be about the amount that he had

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basically figured out under a EPA. So as far as economically,

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will be not much of a change. But the question

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is will he go forward on this universal fifteen percent

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tariff which doesn't fit what the laws that the other

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trade agreements said he's going to use. None of them

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say you can do that. So this, this is getting

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to be this is going to be a giant nightmare.

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And like I said, corporations and law firms are lining up.

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The problem with the corporations lining up to get their

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money back. Yes, they paid. Let's take Walmart. Walmart has

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paid millions, tens of millions of dollars to pick up

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the goods that were shipped to the United States for

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their stores. But they pass that on to you. So

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why do they get the discount, why do they get

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a refund? Shouldn't that go to you? The state of Illinois,

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good old Governor Prinsker is saying he wonts seventeen hundred

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dollars per citizen. So everybody's going to be coming at

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this different ways. But the question is who paid the tariff? Well, again,

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we did, whether it was Walmart or whether it was

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you and me, but it wasn't the foreign company. It

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wasn't the foreign country. Americans pay the tariff. So why

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is the president keep pushing the tariffs? And you wonder

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why the Fed cannot get inflation down to two percent,

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it's because of the tariffs they have bumped. They always

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tariffs raise prices. There are tax taxes raise prices, So

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it will be interesting. I saw one guy earlier today

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talking about, yeah, well, what are we going to get

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our two thousand dollars check, you know from the tariff revenue?

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And I'm going to oh my gosh. The guy actually

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believed that that is never going to happen. That's something

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that Trump just came up with off the top of

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his head. That was never going to happen. And now

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it's definitely not going to happen because that money is illegal.

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It's got to go back to whoever paid it. Meantime,

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Canada and the European Union are talking about a trade deal. Canada, Australia,

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the European Union, They're they're all trying to basically get

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more power to where the United States is much much

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weaker in our efforts to try to charge them for

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trade tariffs. Gott Besant, being the good, loyal Treasury Secretary,

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he's convinced, however, this will still go forward.

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Speaker 6: We've been in contact with our foreign trading partners and

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they like the tariff deals, so you know they're they're

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not going to be changed, and the President, the President

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remains undeterred in his determination to lower trade deficit and

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bring manufacturing back to the US.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll believe that they're happy with the trade deals

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when I see it, because so far it looks like

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they're basically scrambling to get out of whatever Trump did

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with them and the idea that you wanted to lower

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the trade deficit. The trade deficit has gone up since

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he created the tariff programs. We have a bigger trade

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deficit in twenty twenty five than we had in twenty

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twenty four or twenty three or twenty It keeps going higher. Yes,

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we are importing more and they're buying less, even though

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the tariffs have been supposedly going to change that. As

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far as bringing jobs back to the United States, the

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job market is not growing in fact, it's kind of

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worried about fact that it may be shrinking. At manufacturing jobs.

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They have been falling every single month since April, since

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Liberation Day in twenty twenty five. So I'm looking at

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I'm just looking at the numbers, folks. Manufacturing jobs have

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gone down. I will give you this. It takes a

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while to build a manufacturing facility. So maybe, maybe, maybe,

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if they build manufacturing facilities, manufacturing jobs will go back

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up again, maybe later this year. But so far, I'm

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just telling you twenty twenty five, manufacturing jobs fell every

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single month since Liberation Day, and our trade deficit has

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gotten bigger in twenty twenty five, not smaller. So I

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appreciate the fact that Scott Besant is a loyal Treasury secretary.

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But the facts, and he knows this, the facts do

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not support his comment that he just made meantime one

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of the other plates that's spending at the White House.

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It would be, of course, Iran, and there are going

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to be. They said they needed a couple of weeks.

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Well it's not that two weeks haven't gone by. But

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Iron says, okay, okay, okay, let's talk on Thursday in Geneva.

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So they have talks planned for Thursday. Steve Whitcoff here's

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what he had to say.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to use the word frustrated.

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Speaker 9: It's almost because he understands he's got plenty of alternatives,

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but he's curious.

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Speaker 6: He's curious as to why they haven't.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to use the word capitulated, but why

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they haven't capitulated?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, President Trump is is going what are they doing? Well.

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Brett mcgark, former National Security advisor, did a lot of them.

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It took care of the Middle East. He knows those characters.

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He's worked for a number of different presidents, both Democrat

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and Republican. And very knowledgeable guy about the Iranians.

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Speaker 10: Okay, I've spent a lot of time negotiating with the Iranians,

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and I think what they tend to do is draw

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you into a very protected negotiation on a narrow agenda

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that they like to set. That's exactly what's happened here.

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And I think the Supreme Leader of Iran is actually

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calculating that for him to give up his nuclear richment program,

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which is really on the table, that would be riskier

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to the survival of his regime, which is his main focus. Then,

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withstanding an American military operation, I just I think that's

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the calculus in Tehran right now, which makes it difficult

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to see the diplomatic off ramp in terms of what

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might come of these talks on Thursday. So there's a

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book by Barbara Tuckman called Guns of August about World

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War One and about once the military maneuvers began and

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there was not a diplomatic off ramp, the conflict kind

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of had a sense of inevitability. And obviously the stakes

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here are not talking this is going to be something

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on that scale, but the inevitability of a military operation

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here still, that would be my prediction. I just do

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not see that diplomatic off ramp being constructed because of

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the positions the Iranians are currently taking in the talks.

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Speaker 1: Ernie Munoz was the Energy secretary of the Obama administration,

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but he's a renowned nuclear scientist, and he was asked

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about the ability of Iran to make the nuke bomb.

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Speaker 11: I think the I think one fact of life which

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has not been emphasized enough is that they had and

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had been for several years now, enriching uranium up to

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sixty percent purity, and what's not been said is that

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that is directly usable in a nuclear explosive. So the

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June military attacks have led to a lot of uncertainty

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as to where that material is, what its condition is,

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if it's still useful. I believe a major focus of

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the administration should be to clarify that very quickly and

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make sure that Iran give up that sixty percent enrichment.

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Then the rest of the discussion will be more and

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more complicated. Certainly, the twenty fifteen agreement that I helped negotiate,

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we felt very confident that that made sure that Iran

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was not pursuing a nuclear weapon. I think there's less

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confidence of their intent today, particularly since the International Inspectors

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were tossed out of Iran for quite quite quite a while,

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so we haven't really had the same kind of visibility

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into their program since since the military action.

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Speaker 1: Mike Pompeo, former Secretary of State, let's see what his assessment.

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Speaker 12: Is and on building out a nuclear program. This is

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their prophecy that says, no, we're not going to capitulate

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to the infidels, to the big Satan, the United States

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of America. So I'm unsurprised that they haven't agreed to

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the basic ask we have, which is like just behave

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like a normal nation. I suspect they will not do that.

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I anticipate President Trump will take a response that will

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put even more pressure on the.

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Speaker 1: REGINI So we wait and see what happens out of

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the tucks on Thursday. A lot of that is also working,

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the trying to stretch out the time before they have

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to actually put up or shut up. There was very

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important news item out of mar A Lago over the weekend.

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The President has been in Washington. He stayed at the

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White House over the weekend. But there was an attempt

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to with somebody. This is this is bothersome from many levels. No,

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the President wasn't at mar A Lago, but they should

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have the security there at one thousand percent all the time. Well,

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at one thirty in the morning, somebody was leaving mar

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A Lago and they have a gate that some when

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you pull up to it, it raises up the arm

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or reduces the road barrier, whatever it is, and you

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can drive out. Meantime, the guy that well he was

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finally shot and killed, but he was coming in with

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a gun and a gas can and he just waited

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for the car to drive out, and then he drove

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in that lane. You would think the Secret Service would

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be there to make sure that nobody could do that.

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That's the oldest trick in the book for a gated community,

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as you wait for somebody to go ahead of you

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and you just zoom in after them. Well, here's Rafael Barrows,

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who's with the Secret Service in mar A Lago.

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Speaker 13: Preliminary information in the case that the individual was armed

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with a shotgun and a possession of a gasoline canister.

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Agents and the deputy discharger farms to stop the threat.

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At this time, no law enforcement personnel were injured doing

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the incident. We want to be clear, the President of

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the United States was not in the state of Florida,

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and this remains an active investigation by the FBI.

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Speaker 1: So the president it was his, but still it was

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his place. Sounds like while he wasn't here, so we

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didn't put up top security. The guide drives in while

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the other guide drives out. Bill Dailey, former FBI guy, react.

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Speaker 9: And yeah, just another stunning incident. How dangerous it is

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to be President Donald J.

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Speaker 6: Trump.

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Speaker 9: You know this is now the third incident directly attacking

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him and his property. You know, I would probably say

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to your point, appears at this point that the North gate,

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which is where this individual came through, he would have

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piggybacked behind someone leaving. That's the least what was suggested

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in some earlier reports. It's important for people to keep

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in mind that mar Lago, as much as it's the

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President and the First Lady's home, it also functions as

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the White House on weekends on a vacations. But thirdly,

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it's also an active club where people are members and

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people come and go. So we don't know whether the

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gate was open to allow for a member who is departying,

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or what the arrangement was, but it appears though he

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drove through, and at some point right after that, the

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Secret Service and the Sheriff's Apartment responded and took immediate

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action to kind of neutralize what they saw was a

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viable threat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he has the gas can. They told him

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to put the gun and the gas can down. He

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put the gas can down, he raised the I think

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it was a shotgun, raised it into a shooting position,

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and that's when a Palm Beach police officer and two

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Secret service agents opened fire on him and he is

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now at room temperature. But still I mean the idea

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he got into the inner perimeter of Mara Lago, it's

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it sounds very troubling to me. I don't like what

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I hear. And since we have Bill Daily, he's also

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the guy that has kept us up to date on

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a lot of what's going on with the search for

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Nancy Guthrie. So while we have him, what is the

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lightest Bill Daily.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, there's still a lot of lee to follow up here.

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We have all the equipment or the paraphernalia, the individuals

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wearing coming to the door. We have this DNA now

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is going to go through geological DNA testing. And plus

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there's also kind of revisiting all the leads is that

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we found in other PATS cases, where redoing and revisiting

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the leads that maybe first went out on the top

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of the lists, where investigators were following up on leads

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that may come in from people calling setting in information

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they need to go back through that. There could be

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that one kernel, it could be the kind of goal

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one golden nugget out there that's in those past leads

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that came across through the tip lines and other ways

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that need to be looked at.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so their working behind the scenes makes sense to me.

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Wall Street, well, Wall Street did not like the chaos

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and the confusion of the trade deals that have been

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blown up with the Supreme Court decision on Friday. So

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with that and the uncertain it's not about the amount even,

583
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it's about the un certainty. Not only does President Trump

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change his mind on a whim about what he's going

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to charge somebody, whether they make him happy or sad

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or mad, but it's also on again, off again ten

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percent he announced on Friday. Then all of a sudden

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over the weekend, I no, I make that fifteen percent.

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Nobody knows and the countries don't know what the trade

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deal will be either. So so Wall Streets sold off today.

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Dow Jones Industrials down eight hundred twenty one, YEP to

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forty eight thousand and eighth four, SMP down seventy one,

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00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:44,679
NASDACK down two hundred and fifty eight. Gold, time of

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caution to run to safety up one hundred and sixty seven.

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Gold at five thousand and two forty seven, and the

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price of oil down twenty cents. It's at sixty six

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dollars and some change for a barrel of oil. So

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that's it for today. I'm going to wrap this up

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and post it, and then I'm going to grab the

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the news conference after the Supreme Court decision came down

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on Friday, the President's reaction, it was something else. I

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thought I should post it for you to get to

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hear the whole thing. So with that, we're gonna take

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a short break. I'll post that and then we'll be

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back tomorrow. I hope to see you then.

