Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
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Speaker 2: Just a few minutes ago, the official notification in front
Speaker 2: of the square in the Vatican.
Speaker 3: And that's that's the black smoke.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that comes much later.
Speaker 2: What the smoke is during the whitecla the white smoke though,
Speaker 2: the white smoke is the announce we have a.
Speaker 1: New pope, right, so there is no I know we've
Speaker 1: been down this road before. I just don't remember where
Speaker 1: the road ends. Is there black smoke that ever comes
Speaker 1: out of that apartment.
Speaker 2: If they're burning the ballots and they have not chosen
Speaker 2: a pope during conclave.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's when the black smoke comes. Black smoke, So
Speaker 1: black smoke does not signify death. No smoke signifies I
Speaker 1: don't think there's any smoke for the death, okay.
Speaker 2: But the College of Cardinals will do the conclave sometime
Speaker 2: after the funeral. They have said that the death starts
Speaker 2: the official mourning period, which they just announced a short
Speaker 2: time ago, that Pope Francis officially died this morning Vatican time,
Speaker 2: that the body will be placed in a coffin, and
Speaker 2: outside of the usual kind of pomp and circumstance that
Speaker 2: surrounds the death of the Pope, that this Pope, Pope Francis,
Speaker 2: wanted to do it pretty low key and in fact
Speaker 2: will only be in a wood coffin. It won't be
Speaker 2: in the wood and the ceremonial lead coffin and the
Speaker 2: you know, the three different versions of it. It's just
Speaker 2: going to be him in a coffin laying for viewing,
Speaker 2: probably starting on Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wears all.
Speaker 1: The stuff, the papal vestments and is exhibited the Pope's death,
Speaker 1: triggering the nine days of mourning known as the noven Diale.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm probably screwing that up.
Speaker 1: Do the thing with their hand, Oh I see, okay,
Speaker 1: Originally an ancient Roman custom, Italy also declares typically a period.
Speaker 3: Of national mourning. Do you want to know the.
Speaker 1: Words just to to say the Pope has died in
Speaker 1: Latin or Italian?
Speaker 4: Which language?
Speaker 3: Never mind? This is never mind? Just ignore me. Why
Speaker 3: do you listen when I speak?
Speaker 4: It's a great question. I do not know the answer
Speaker 4: to that.
Speaker 2: God, let me let me bridge two worlds here and
Speaker 2: say President Trump did sign an executive order to fly
Speaker 2: flags at half staff.
Speaker 5: I just signed an executive to do that, putting the
Speaker 5: flags of.
Speaker 3: Our executive of order for flag.
Speaker 2: Federal flags and state flags at half mast in honor
Speaker 2: of Pope Francis.
Speaker 4: He was a good man, worked.
Speaker 5: Hard, he uh, he loved the world, and it's an
Speaker 5: honor to do that.
Speaker 2: You mean, usually the executive orders we hear about are
Speaker 2: the big ones.
Speaker 4: I'm sure there are smaller ones like that that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never heard an executive order signed a
Speaker 1: fly federal flags at half mast. I've just heard federal
Speaker 1: flags will be flown at half mast.
Speaker 4: But who says, yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 6: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that Trump putting him interjecting himself into the death
Speaker 1: of the pope?
Speaker 3: Is that him making it about him?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, okay, because listen, I celebrate it
Speaker 1: from somebody who makes everything about them.
Speaker 3: That's me.
Speaker 1: If you're making the death of the Pope about you,
Speaker 1: well done, game done.
Speaker 4: It's time for swamp watch.
Speaker 5: I'm a politician, I'm a cheat and a liar, and
Speaker 5: when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we got The real problem is that our leaders
Speaker 7: are done.
Speaker 3: The other side never quits.
Speaker 5: So what I'm not going anywhere So that you.
Speaker 3: Train the swap, I can imagine what can be and
Speaker 3: be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 6: You know, Americans have always been going president, but they're
Speaker 6: not stupid.
Speaker 2: A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the
Speaker 2: truth that people voted for you with mass swamp watch,
Speaker 2: they're all counton with Well, we mentioned that many times
Speaker 2: this morning. I think the most lasting Washington DC issue
Speaker 2: today is going to be the President going after the
Speaker 2: Fed Reserve chair Jerome Powell. This morning on Truth Social
Speaker 2: he ratcheted up pressure on Powell, called him a major
Speaker 2: loser and said that the US economy's going to slow
Speaker 2: down unless interest rates are lowered immediately. He said that
Speaker 2: there is virtually this is the president, virtually no inflation
Speaker 2: in the US. Costs for energy and most other things
Speaker 2: are on the decline, he said, but there can be
Speaker 2: a slowing of the economy unless mister too Late, that's
Speaker 2: his nickname for Jerome Powell, a major loser, lowers interest
Speaker 2: rates now in all caps, markets don't like uncertainty. This
Speaker 2: is perhaps the definition of it. The Dow is down
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred points. Right now, the S and P five
Speaker 2: hundred is down three percent, Nasdaq is down three and
Speaker 2: a half percent.
Speaker 1: US dollar has fallen to its lowest level since twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. We've talked about investors running to things like gold,
Speaker 1: which hit a record high price. Today the benchmark and
Speaker 1: ten year treasury yield crept up as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really know what he gets out of this.
Speaker 1: I don't either, because other than he's still pissed off
Speaker 1: that Jerome Powell spoke at that lunch last week and
Speaker 1: said that the tariffs could mean will mean inflation at
Speaker 1: least temporarily. And this is and everyone's been saying this,
Speaker 1: but I think Trump sees it as his guy is
Speaker 1: saying that, which is disloyal and therefore you're dead to him.
Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say that he did. Jerome
Speaker 2: Powell was a Trump nominee, and there's still some debate
Speaker 2: as to whether or not a president can remove a
Speaker 2: FED chair like that if there's other avenues to do it,
Speaker 2: and nobody wants to see that take place. I think
Speaker 2: Pete heg Seth did get a vote of confidence from
Speaker 2: the president. Pete Hegseth the Secretary of Defense said doing
Speaker 2: a great job. Trump said that he Seth is doing
Speaker 2: a great job despite what appeared to be attacks from
Speaker 2: disgruntled employees.
Speaker 4: That's what they've said. Now.
Speaker 2: The latest report out of the Pentagon is that Secretary
Speaker 2: Hegseeth once again shared information in a signal chat group
Speaker 2: the detailed and imminent attack against the Hoothies. We knew
Speaker 2: originally that there were Cabinet members on it and a
Speaker 2: guy named Jeffrey Goldberg who was a writer for The Atlantic.
Speaker 2: Now there's a second group chat that was apparently in
Speaker 2: that same time frame, right in the middle of February,
Speaker 2: that was his wife, a brother, his personal attorney, and
Speaker 2: that there was information in that chat about that same
Speaker 2: or similar attacks as well.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, today, a prominent Republican on the House
Speaker 1: Armed Services Committee, the first sitting Republican lawmaker, is calling
Speaker 1: on Pete haig Seth to get the act.
Speaker 4: Is this Don Bacon?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Don Bacon says that many Hill Republicans are privately uneasy
Speaker 1: with hag Seth, and they have been from before go
Speaker 1: that they have been uneasy with this when his name
Speaker 1: was floated. He doesn't have a lot of experience, Bacon said,
Speaker 1: a former Air Force general by the Bye chairs a
Speaker 1: subcommittee on cyber issues.
Speaker 3: He said, I like.
Speaker 1: Him on Fox, but does he have the experience to
Speaker 1: lead one of the largest organizations in the world. That's
Speaker 1: a concern, he called him. I loved this and it
Speaker 1: sounds very trump esque. An amateur person. Yeah, an amateur person.
Speaker 2: Another descriptor that I've heard before, not about Pete Hegseth,
Speaker 2: but that I love is non person just that there's
Speaker 2: no personality.
Speaker 4: There's nothing there.
Speaker 2: I mean, Pete Hegseth has plenty of personality, but in
Speaker 2: terms of insults, this is what Pete hag Seth said
Speaker 2: this morning at the Easter Egg role pording the pedagon.
Speaker 5: Back in the hands of war fighters.
Speaker 7: Anonymous smears from distrunctive former employees on old news doesn't matter.
Speaker 6: So I'm happy to be here at the East reg
Speaker 6: Roll with my dad putting my kids because you know,
Speaker 6: this is what we're doing it for, these kids right here.
Speaker 6: This is why we're fighting the fake news media. This
Speaker 6: is why we're fighting slash and burn Democrats, and this
Speaker 6: is where we're fighting posters, posters.
Speaker 5: This group, no, no, this.
Speaker 1: Group right here, this seems like that he sounds like
Speaker 1: an amateur person. Well in that clip here's here's you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't even find his I found him to be
Speaker 1: impressive in that signal chat. And I said it when
Speaker 1: that when that was leaked, I thought he sounded like
Speaker 1: a leader, like well thought out and making kick an
Speaker 1: ash absolutely but also succinct for his communications.
Speaker 3: And I thought, I mean, you can agree with him
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 1: I was just saying objectively, he's making sense in this
Speaker 1: chat in terms of the plan moving forward and what
Speaker 1: they're going to pin it on and all the things.
Speaker 1: But when you hear him off the cuff like that,
Speaker 1: he does sound like he has no business in Washington.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's the reaction of I feel
Speaker 2: like I have to punch back. Yeah, And that's the
Speaker 2: frustrating thing about I want that guy, whoever, whoever is
Speaker 2: leading the Pentagon, whoever the Secretary of Defense is, I
Speaker 2: want him to have that same attitude of we have
Speaker 2: the most lethal fighting force in the history of the world. Yes,
Speaker 2: put power back to the war fighters. To use his phrase,
Speaker 2: don't get caught in these politics, don't And I know
Speaker 2: that you, I know the immediate reaction is you want
Speaker 2: to punch, punch back, pushback against these things because you
Speaker 2: say they're bogus. If their bogus, ignore them, do your job,
Speaker 2: do what you know that the attitude of I have
Speaker 2: to go back and immediately react to everything that's brought
Speaker 2: up against me. That's the part that doesn't seem to
Speaker 2: be one of those leadership qualities that you would want,
Speaker 2: right I think. So that's the other quick story out
Speaker 2: of DO is that Christy Nolan had her purse snatched
Speaker 2: while she was at a restaurant in DC. Three grand
Speaker 2: in cash, her passport, her makeup bag, her DHS access
Speaker 2: card or apartment key, and a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 3: That's unfortunate, is it.
Speaker 4: Elon Musk is going to be leaving.
Speaker 1: He says he's tired of attacks. We'll talk about what
Speaker 1: we know when we come back.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: There is a report in the Washington Post that Elon
Speaker 1: Musk is reportedly leaving his government role because he's tired
Speaker 1: of what he sees as a litany of vicious and
Speaker 1: unethical attacks from the left. We don't know when he
Speaker 1: would leave as a Department of DOGE, the Department of
Speaker 1: Government Efficiency. His Special Government Employee status will expire at
Speaker 1: the end of next month. A person familiar with his thinking.
Speaker 1: That's a funny way to put that, especially when you're
Speaker 1: talking about someone like Elon Musk. I don't you know
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is familiar with his thinking. This person thinks
Speaker 1: that his work at DOGE won't be disminished, diminished excuse
Speaker 1: me because of his departure, noting that staffers have already
Speaker 1: established themselves across a slew of federal agencies, but his
Speaker 1: influence in the administration is appearing to wane. The New
Speaker 1: York Times reported last week that the acting Commissioner of
Speaker 1: the IRS was being replaced after Scott Bissent, the Treasury Secretary,
Speaker 1: complained that Elon had preferred had his preferred candidate installed
Speaker 1: without Bessent support, so he's annoyed him. Musk has also
Speaker 1: annoyed other cabinet members, allegedly by failing to coordinate with
Speaker 1: them in cost cutting moves. In the meantime, web Bush
Speaker 1: securities analyst Don Ives said that Musk should leave his
Speaker 1: government role and once again focus his efforts on TESLA,
Speaker 1: saying that the company is facing a Code red moment.
Speaker 2: I assumed that he was always going to be a
Speaker 2: numbered I mean, the days would be nice for Elon Muskin.
Speaker 1: There as they should be with anyone who gets in
Speaker 1: to disrupt, be a disruptor in government.
Speaker 3: Get in, disrupt and then leave. That's what they do.
Speaker 4: Go in, make a mess, leave.
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole plan for him is to cut
Speaker 2: back on ridiculous amounts of spending and his you know,
Speaker 2: his key line of waste, fraud and abuse that he's
Speaker 2: looking for.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. You see office space. Did
Speaker 1: the bob stick around?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: You've probably had at some point in your career somebody
Speaker 1: come in fire a bunch of people. Do they stick around. No,
Speaker 1: you're looking at what eighteen months, two years. They come
Speaker 1: in to do what they're coming in to do, and
Speaker 1: then they leave.
Speaker 4: Okay, but what's he going to do now? I'm non politically.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's already a political figure and it'll probably
Speaker 2: be a political figure for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4: What does he do to help Tesla?
Speaker 2: I mean, people have a negative attitude towards this guy
Speaker 2: anyway and the products that he's making. So what does
Speaker 2: stepping back from government do in order to benefit Tesla.
Speaker 4: Is there anything that he can do?
Speaker 3: You lean in to the hate on Tesla?
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if you're the brand manager for Tesla,
Speaker 1: do you lean into it and court the people who
Speaker 1: hate the people who are protesting Tesla?
Speaker 2: I hate the other people, so I'm gonna I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you're not going.
Speaker 1: To piss those people off more, you might as well
Speaker 1: lean into it.
Speaker 2: I was talking with a friend who drives a Tesla currently,
Speaker 2: and he was saying that he's tested a bunch of
Speaker 2: the electric cars and that Tesla is by far the
Speaker 2: best leaps and bounds leaps out if nothing else. Because
Speaker 2: Tesla the car company has been around for so long,
Speaker 2: They've gone through the growing pains, the iterations that are
Speaker 2: necessary to come up with a better product, whereas some
Speaker 2: of these newer companies haven't gone through the same stress
Speaker 2: tests that Tesla the product has.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, do you think Tesla is
Speaker 1: going to have the bud light bounce back? Where right
Speaker 1: now there's protest people hate Tesla. Do you think in
Speaker 1: ten years when Trump's out of office, Elon Musk is
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing in ten years, but
Speaker 1: this this, the temperature has been lowered in the discussions
Speaker 1: how to speak. Do you think Tesla has a people
Speaker 1: forget about it and they just buy the best product
Speaker 1: because it's the best product. I mean, I guess it's
Speaker 1: apples and oranges comparing it to bud light, because for
Speaker 1: every bud light, there's a million different light beers to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, if you're a purist and a loyalist,
Speaker 1: that's not true. But for the common guy, like, if
Speaker 1: I can't have a bud light, I'll have a milk
Speaker 1: glob Ultra, I'll have a cores light or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right Tesla, it's kind of like.
Speaker 4: Tesla and everybody else exactly. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's that's why I'm curious about what his plan would be.
Speaker 2: Let's say he does step down out of, you know,
Speaker 2: his government role and then goes back to Tesla. What
Speaker 2: does that first board meeting look like. Does he say
Speaker 2: I got some ideas we're going to get back onto
Speaker 2: everybody's good side.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 2: Or is he just double birds all the way through
Speaker 2: and go I don't care if you don't like my
Speaker 2: product and don't buy it.
Speaker 1: It's really a blip on the radar. Elon Musk's involvement
Speaker 1: in this administration. History will see it as a blip
Speaker 1: on the radar that he was there for five minutes.
Speaker 3: People.
Speaker 1: I think Tesla is a much bigger imprint than the
Speaker 1: blip that Elon Musk has been in the Oval office.
Speaker 2: That's interesting because I think the bigger role that he
Speaker 2: will play in this full story is the amount of
Speaker 2: money that he gave to candidate Trump before he was president.
Speaker 2: You know that that helped in the election process. I
Speaker 2: think that's probably potentially a bigger story because of the
Speaker 2: I mean just right and checks left and right with
Speaker 2: lots and lots and lots of zeros.
Speaker 1: I wonder who would win in the intramural sun Day
Speaker 1: Sports family event, Philip Rivers kids, Nick Cannon's kids, Elon
Speaker 1: Musk's kids. They could all field a whole team. I
Speaker 1: guess Philip Rivers kids would would kick more ass than
Speaker 1: the other ones, just because they have the athletic DNA.
Speaker 4: It would be a fun Olympics event.
Speaker 2: Twelve kids twelve can I imagine plus kids? There were
Speaker 2: times I would too, was like full time. Yeah, couldn't
Speaker 2: do it. Of course it is because I'm sure you're
Speaker 2: doing it right. And that great comedian I don't remember
Speaker 2: who it was, but it was like, you can't when
Speaker 2: you go from two to three.
Speaker 3: It's you know, when you're out, Yeah, exactly, And that's
Speaker 3: hard and it's rarely successful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're quick. Oh man, little no man.
Speaker 4: All right, a little bit more.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking with Raymond Arroyo, host of the
Speaker 2: Arroyo Grande podcast, coming up in a couple of minutes,
Speaker 2: regarding the the cultural implications of the loss of Pope Francis.
Speaker 4: That's coming up next.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI.
Speaker 2: Vatican has officially come out with a death certificate for
Speaker 2: Pope Francis. Died at the age of eighty eight earlier
Speaker 2: today at the Saint Martha residence there in the Vatican.
Speaker 2: They said he passed away peacefully, and they confirmed a
Speaker 2: short time ago that Pope Francis died of a cerebral
Speaker 2: stroke and subsequent heart failure which led to a coma.
Speaker 2: The irreversible heart failure as well, according to the death certificate,
Speaker 2: and originally they said this was not connected to the
Speaker 2: pneumonia and breathing problems that he had suffered just from
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. But he was in pretty
Speaker 2: bad shape then, so he had. One of the last
Speaker 2: things he did was the was the Easter blessing from
Speaker 2: just yesterday. Joining us now Raymond Arroyo, internationally recognized journalist, broadcaster,
Speaker 2: New York Times bestselling author. You can listen to his podcast,
Speaker 2: The Royal Grandee right here on the iHeart app Raymond.
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking time for us today.
Speaker 6: Oh it's my pleasure. Thank you for having.
Speaker 2: Me give me some ten thousand foot level look at
Speaker 2: Pope Francis. The death, unfortunately, is not unexpected. He was
Speaker 2: a pretty old guy and had some health issues recently.
Speaker 2: But what kind of what kind of a pope was he?
Speaker 2: How did he differ from his predecessors?
Speaker 6: Well, look, it's a complex legacy. I mean I knew
Speaker 6: I knew his predecessors. I knew John Paul and Benedict personally.
Speaker 6: I mean we were friendly. I would see them every
Speaker 6: time I went to the Vatican, had dinners and lunches
Speaker 6: with them. So this was a marked departure from the
Speaker 6: continuity of Benedict and John Paul the Second, And what
Speaker 6: I mean by that is that they tried to limit
Speaker 6: and define what happened in Vatican Two. They were trying
Speaker 6: to clarify the Gospel message and bring clarity out of confusion.
Speaker 6: Pope Francis very early in his pontificate, he spoke to
Speaker 6: a youth gathering and he said, go out there and
Speaker 6: make a mess. That's the quote, and that's sort of
Speaker 6: the touchstone of this papacy. He believed in kind of
Speaker 6: kicking over all the pieces and then getting everybody together
Speaker 6: to sort out what the church thought where the church
Speaker 6: should go. He believed in these big sonodyl meetings where
Speaker 6: you brought lay people in and bishops and non believers
Speaker 6: and everybody and their dogs, and to have a great, big,
Speaker 6: you know, throwdown about where the church should proceed. And
Speaker 6: he thought that was the best way forward. It's a
Speaker 6: complex and it's a mixed legacy, to be honest, I
Speaker 6: think he ushered in a period of a lot of
Speaker 6: confusion chaos in what the church teaches. On the other hand,
Speaker 6: he was a emblem and a symbol of humility going
Speaker 6: out to the peripheries and places in the world that
Speaker 6: the Church had never been reaching out to people, whether
Speaker 6: it be immigrants or LGBT folks, in a way that
Speaker 6: the church hadn't before. So the public image of the
Speaker 6: man and what happened inside the church are really two
Speaker 6: different faces of his legacy.
Speaker 1: My gut says, the church has had enough of that
Speaker 1: of make a mess. I think that the pendulum is
Speaker 1: probably going to swing the other way with this next selection.
Speaker 1: Somebody who turns more internally, somebody who is more concerned
Speaker 1: with the church, is not going to wade into making
Speaker 1: any headlines causing any drama, and we'll just keep the
Speaker 1: main thing the thing.
Speaker 6: Well, I think you're right. Look, people just want the
Speaker 6: church to be the church. Well, this Easter Sunday, thirty
Speaker 6: to seventy percent increase in the number of baptisms year
Speaker 6: over year these dioceses saw in the Catholic Church. That's extraordinary,
Speaker 6: and most of that is driven by millennials and young
Speaker 6: men coming into the church. What do you think they want.
Speaker 6: I spoke to some of them down at Old Saint
Speaker 6: Patrick's here in New York, and to a person, they
Speaker 6: told me, we're looking for orthodoxy, we want clarity of teaching.
Speaker 6: We came so we could understand the history of the
Speaker 6: world and how we operate and live in it. They're
Speaker 6: looking for and unfortunately, for too many years, I think
Speaker 6: the Church has been more concerned with climate change, and
Speaker 6: you know, the migration policy Jesus didn't come to, you know,
Speaker 6: settle those things, and the poor you'll always have with you,
Speaker 6: and the Church always reaches out to the poor. It should.
Speaker 6: But when you're talking about church doctrine, that has to
Speaker 6: be immovable, and that's Peter's job. You know. The pope
Speaker 6: is just the successor of Saint Peter. For those non
Speaker 6: Catholics listening, remember Jesus tells him, you're the rock upon
Speaker 6: which I'll build this church. Tend my sheep, feed my sheep.
Speaker 6: That's the pope's job, just that, tending the flock and
Speaker 6: feeding the flock. And that means clarity of doctrine. And
Speaker 6: I worry Pope Francis at times muddied the waters of
Speaker 6: it in his exploration of where we should go and
Speaker 6: confused a lot of people along the way.
Speaker 2: We're about to embark on a couple of weeks, if
Speaker 2: not a few weeks of very very solemn ceremony. Is
Speaker 2: not just obviously the viewing of the pope's body, the funeral,
Speaker 2: but conclave as well. What is the Vatican like in
Speaker 2: times like this? Does it shut down or is it
Speaker 2: become sort of a hotbed of activity?
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, you were going to We are all
Speaker 6: going to get a front row seat in a way
Speaker 6: that people, you know, rarely do to the ritual, the
Speaker 6: pageantry of selecting it, but well, remembering and burying a
Speaker 6: pope and then the selection of a pope, the process,
Speaker 6: the movements of that are really beautiful and amazing to see.
Speaker 6: And you look some of the first formal election for
Speaker 6: pope was held in ten fifty nine, so this goes
Speaker 6: back a long time. Before that, it was just popular acclamation,
Speaker 6: you know, the bishops and the people kind of get
Speaker 6: in the square and yell out, oh, this guy should
Speaker 6: be pope. There were as you can imagine, that was.
Speaker 6: That was a messy process, a lot messier than what
Speaker 6: we have today. But what you'll see is there'll be
Speaker 6: nine days of morning. Though I just heard word that
Speaker 6: they may be condensing that, and this pope, true to form,
Speaker 6: has decided to sort of flout tradition. You know, all
Speaker 6: the popes are mostly buried in Saint Peter's in the
Speaker 6: crypt of Saint Peter's or in Saint Peter's basilica. Uh.
Speaker 6: Pope Francis is elected to be buried at Saint Mary Major,
Speaker 6: which was kind of a major basilica and his favorite
Speaker 6: church he is today. We saw the instruction his last
Speaker 6: Will and Testament where he says, I want to be
Speaker 6: buried in a plain tomb. The only thing that will
Speaker 6: say is Francis on it, nothing else, just Francis. I mean,
Speaker 6: so he always kind of went for this very humble
Speaker 6: but diminished approach.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a little vanity there and putting your
Speaker 1: name on the actual box, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: little vanity.
Speaker 6: Well, but but you know, shouldn't say Pope Francis yea,
Speaker 6: the Pope? Yeah, you know, you pontificas Maximus. You want
Speaker 6: to see that this is a regardless of the man,
Speaker 6: the title has weight and the title and the offices
Speaker 6: to be re And I worry you diminish that when
Speaker 6: you say I just want to By the way, he's
Speaker 6: being buried in a They just placed his body in
Speaker 6: a wooden box. They're going to put it on the
Speaker 6: floor of Saint Peter's. Visitation every other papal funeral I've
Speaker 6: ever been to. You know, it's a grand They have boxes,
Speaker 6: you know, a lead box, a wooden box, and marble box,
Speaker 6: and they put him on a platform so you know
Speaker 6: that sort of eye level where you can go and
Speaker 6: give reverence to the pope, pray before his body and
Speaker 6: move on. In Saint Peter's Basilica. This time he's literally
Speaker 6: going to be at the floor.
Speaker 1: Well, even in death, that's the way he operated, right,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean that.
Speaker 6: It is and it shot from the hip. It was
Speaker 6: an improvisitory kind of papacy, which I think led to
Speaker 6: some wonderful things. It was exciting to watch, but within
Speaker 6: the church it was the mess that he you know
Speaker 6: that he often advocated sadly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting, how if you were a betting man, Raymond,
Speaker 1: how many days do you think it will take? I
Speaker 1: believe they have twenty days the cardinals to get together
Speaker 1: and have their four vote a day to wit this
Speaker 1: field down to two before they make their selection. I
Speaker 1: think Deborah said in her news that the average time
Speaker 1: is four days something like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's about it. I think three days probably, But
Speaker 6: except here's the only wild card. These cardinals don't know
Speaker 6: each other. Benedict and John Paul the Second's cardinals. A.
Speaker 6: They were elected and vetted properly. They thoroughly vetted all
Speaker 6: of the men that they made cardinal, Okay, so they
Speaker 6: kind of knew the men they were placing there. Francis,
Speaker 6: like his funeral arrangements, like his trips, like so many things,
Speaker 6: it was kind of from the hip, So he appointed
Speaker 6: men he didn't really know. They were not vetted. So
Speaker 6: they're not all certainly not ideologically in line with Pope Francis,
Speaker 6: but more than that, they don't know each other. So
Speaker 6: this is the first time many of them are meeting
Speaker 6: in one room, and he kind of kept them at
Speaker 6: arm's length. He didn't bring the cardinals Grome regularly. His
Speaker 6: send the big Senate we heard about over many years.
Speaker 6: That was layman and a select group of bishops. It
Speaker 6: was only by invitation. Every cardinal wasn't invited. So this
Speaker 6: is going to be getting to know you period. That
Speaker 6: may have some bumps along the road here, meaning the
Speaker 6: conclavet could go a little longer.
Speaker 3: Interesting, I didn't know that about the cardinals all.
Speaker 2: Right, Raymond, awesome stuff, wild card, Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for your time today.
Speaker 6: Thank you my friends. Great to talk to you.
Speaker 4: Raymond and roy Against.
Speaker 2: Great check out the podcast a Royal Grande on the
Speaker 2: on the iHeart we should do more.
Speaker 4: I don't know Raymond Against.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what would call for that.
Speaker 1: Maybe we do more pope stuff around here.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We have gotten a report that we have a naked
Speaker 1: man who's laughing at people on the freeway. And I've
Speaker 1: never heard a Monday getting off to a better start.
Speaker 1: I commend this man. I too want to get naked
Speaker 1: and laugh at people on the freeway. How freeing happened?
Speaker 1: How freeing? Jenny Harmon is joining us. She's got all
Speaker 1: the details.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's happening in Grand Terrace on the two
Speaker 7: fifteen north right past Washington. He jumped out of the car,
Speaker 7: pulled his car into the center divider. And maybe it's
Speaker 7: hot in the car. He doesn't have air conditioning.
Speaker 4: I don't know it is warm out there today.
Speaker 7: But he stripped down and he's showing people what he's got.
Speaker 2: And would you say it's a it's a stop sign
Speaker 2: or a yield sign.
Speaker 7: What's working with I'm not sure. I'm trying to get
Speaker 7: the cameras on, but I can only see it on the.
Speaker 2: HV page, trying desperately to get a mean, it's a
Speaker 2: fair question.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you've got if you've got something.
Speaker 1: To to show the people, you know, speed bump or
Speaker 1: tax strip, it's it's this is the time spring is sprung.
Speaker 1: He has risen, time to welcome in a new season,
Speaker 1: a new feeling of faith and warmth and right.
Speaker 3: But yeahs he risen?
Speaker 1: That has he has he? And what we'll do it?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Is he an F one fifty guy? Is he a
Speaker 1: Tesla guy? I mean, what vehicle would get us to
Speaker 1: that point?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to look and see what kind of a
Speaker 7: car he's gone. Now doesn't show what kind of car
Speaker 7: he's he's now walking over to the right shoulder. But yeah,
Speaker 7: he was in and out of the lanes, laid down
Speaker 7: a little bit there, just airing things out. Oh wow,
Speaker 7: looks like he's getting over to the shoulder. Yeah, you
Speaker 7: know it, man, It.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that long ago that they recommended getting naked in
Speaker 1: your bottom half when it's sunny. Out, and all last
Speaker 1: week it was overcast. You know, remember that when we
Speaker 1: had that hell of last week and the sun didn't
Speaker 1: come out, and so this is really the first weekday
Speaker 1: of sunshine in quite a long time. So I think
Speaker 1: people need to be given allowances for that behaving.
Speaker 7: He's just trying to get a little vitamin D.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly what's wrong, garthing.
Speaker 4: I just feel like you guys are going.
Speaker 3: You threw your her hands up, and I know you
Speaker 3: move your chair back.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 4: I am also trying to see if there're are camera.
Speaker 3: I heard it and he was laughing at people, Jenny,
Speaker 3: is that the case he was?
Speaker 7: He was he was laughing and running and laying down.
Speaker 3: He's just having a great night time. Think it sounds
Speaker 3: like a nice way to spend the morning.
Speaker 4: Right, it's a Monday.
Speaker 3: It's a Monday, exactly. Well, wonderful. Thank you for the report.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite traffic report I've heard in a long time.
Speaker 4: You get some pictures. Shannon wants to see them, definitely,
Speaker 4: I sure do. Thank you. Jinny.
Speaker 2: All right, you may not know the name Jeanie Rice,
Speaker 2: but Jeanie Rice ran the Boston Marathon today. I don't
Speaker 2: have a time on her yet. But she just turned
Speaker 2: seventy seven years old. Now she's not the only one
Speaker 2: over say the age of fifty five or seventy that's
Speaker 2: running the Boston Marathon. But I guarantee you she's gonna
Speaker 2: run at the fast fastest her world record marathon, by
Speaker 2: the way, for her age group, three point thirty three
Speaker 2: three hours in thirty three minutes in last year's London Marathon.
Speaker 2: They are studying Genie Rice not just because she's fast,
Speaker 2: but because everything else about her is basically as fit
Speaker 2: as a twenty.
Speaker 3: Five year old bionic woman.
Speaker 2: Researchers are trying to figure out how we stay fit
Speaker 2: as we age, and she is, probably, at least to
Speaker 2: the scientist's recollection, the best specimen to study. An assistant
Speaker 2: professor nutrition and movement scientists at a university in the
Speaker 2: Netherlands is one of the authors of a study that
Speaker 2: says she exemplifies how consistent training, favorable genetics can partly
Speaker 2: defy conventional aging processes. She says it's never too late
Speaker 2: to start exercising. She started with running a mile, Like
Speaker 2: you said, the whole process. You know, you get this
Speaker 2: running propaganda. People convince you that running is great, and
Speaker 2: then you get out there in the first one hundred
Speaker 2: yards feel like you're being dragged by in a truck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they really do pepper it in from time
Speaker 3: to time.
Speaker 1: You know, you're just perusing the news, just living your life,
Speaker 1: reading the news, and all of a sudden, it's like
Speaker 1: ten reasons why it's so super easy to start running,
Speaker 1: and you fall for every once in a while.
Speaker 4: She said she started running at the age of thirty five.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's inspirational.
Speaker 4: And her goal was simply to drop weight.
Speaker 2: She had gained weight, I guess on a trip to
Speaker 2: Korea when she was visiting family, and she said, figured,
Speaker 2: if I jogged around the block, I'd lose five pounds
Speaker 2: right away. I was only running one or two miles
Speaker 2: at a time, and I didn't even have running shoes.
Speaker 2: But a year later she was running in the Cleveland Marathon.
Speaker 2: No serious training, no regimen, no coaches or anything like that.
Speaker 2: That's how wished three forty five for her first marathon.
Speaker 1: That's how it That's how it usually works, right, Somebody
Speaker 1: who doesn't run decides to run one day and realizes
Speaker 1: that they love it.
Speaker 3: It's like Forrest Gump.
Speaker 1: Everybody you've never seen the major motion picture Forrest Gump.
Speaker 4: But the love of running.
Speaker 2: I know people say I love if you're running outside somewhere,
Speaker 2: for example, I love running in nature. I love running
Speaker 2: in a forest, I love running through my town or
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But the people that I know that
Speaker 2: love running love stopping running. Like that's that's when the
Speaker 2: endorphin thing comes.
Speaker 4: Is when you're.
Speaker 2: Done and that you know it really is quite a
Speaker 2: high those minutes or an hour or whatever after you
Speaker 2: run a long distance the best, it's great.
Speaker 1: I do not feel it in the middle of it, though,
Speaker 1: Like some people say, speaking of Forrest.
Speaker 2: Gump, she just ran her one hundred and thirty third marathon.
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty fourth would.
Speaker 6: Be for her.
Speaker 1: But I don't think they should look at her for
Speaker 1: like tips on aging how we age, because she's definitely
Speaker 1: cut differently. Did you know that Forrest Gump and Pulp
Speaker 1: Fiction and Shawshank Redemption all came out the same year.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good years in the early nineties
Speaker 1: before China, before China ruined everything.
Speaker 4: They ruined our movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean the movies had to be marketed
Speaker 1: to China, and it ruined everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, think about it. You think about it. I have
Speaker 4: tell me what to do. All right, we'll come back.
Speaker 3: I wasn't telling you what to do.
Speaker 4: Sounds like you were.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, think about the great movies that at
Speaker 1: that age of the early nineties, there were.
Speaker 2: A couple of years like that where you when you
Speaker 2: think of some absolutely classic, yeah, top one hundred movies,
Speaker 2: and now they're all crap.
Speaker 4: And they came out in the same year.
Speaker 3: All right, catering to China.
Speaker 4: Next hour. It's humongous, It's pretty big.
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