WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:16.120 Just I have seven six here pety five k CD 2 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.480 talk station. What a wonderful, wonderful thing to bold on 3 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:25.079 a Friday in my studio. Peter Bronson. Everybody knows Peter 4 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:27.760 from his enquire days and all the wonderful books that 5 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:30.679 he's written. I can only recommend you go to Amazon 6 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:32.240 dot com is a place to find it is type 7 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:34.280 in Peter Bronson, all the books that he's written will 8 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:40.000 come up. Everyone is simply outstanding, all mostly all on 9 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:44.399 local things like for example, I think Forbidden Fruit maybe 10 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:47.520 one of my favorites. It's hardly hard to say not 11 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:53.039 in our town, which is about the king of Smut, 12 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:56.920 Hustler magazine, Larry Flint, and all the problems and legal 13 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:59.320 challenges and things that we face back then. But they 14 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:04.920 Forbid Fruit, the sin City Underworld, and the supper Club Inferno, 15 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.640 which of course the mob had a direct connection with 16 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:10.560 burning down the Beverly Hills supper club and all the 17 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:12.840 criminal activity that went along with that. Names from the 18 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:16.120 past like sleep Out Louis, Peter Bronson. I have so 19 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:18.400 enjoyed your books and I really can't thank you, know, 20 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:21.239 if not just for you know, providing the great entertainment 21 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.959 but for documenting our local history in just such a 22 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:24.680 fabulous way. 23 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:26.159 Good to see you and welcome man. 24 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:28.480 Great to see you. I always enjoyed doing your show. 25 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:30.640 I love it and you do a great job, so 26 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:32.120 thank you for inviting me back. 27 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:33.640 That's kind of you that this is one of the 28 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:36.959 benefits of my job I could speak with people like you. 29 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:39.719 Last time we talked, it was on the man who 30 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:42.840 Saved Cincinnati, Cincinnati History in Queen City of the West, 31 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:52.000 and we all learned about the amazing the slaves that 32 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:58.480 saved Cincinnati. They actually fought brigadestastic, just one little great 33 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.879 lover of the book, so that thing went viral, like 34 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:03.719 who knew about this exactly? 35 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:05.760 It's such a great story and we should all be 36 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:08.319 so proud of that history. Yeah, and yet it's all 37 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:10.599 been forgotten. That's one of the things I love doing 38 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:13.439 about this research is that I come across all these 39 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.680 stories that Cincinnati are so important as a part of 40 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:19.599 our history, and it's our story. It belongs to all 41 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:21.919 of us, and yet we've forgotten it. It's a source 42 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:26.080 of inspiration, it's a source of pride. It really makes 43 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:27.719 me proud to live in Cincinnati. 44 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:28.439 To find these. 45 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:31.360 Stories there you go, exactly right. We are as important 46 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.759 as any other big city in the United States. We 47 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:37.439 have our own history, and we've dedicated so much to 48 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:40.199 the development of our country from right here in Cincinnati. 49 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:43.360 So you're great about documenting all this. So I again 50 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:45.759 to my listeners, strongly encourage you this. Now we pivot 51 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:48.840 over to the brand new book, Promised Land, How the 52 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:52.120 Midwest Was Won. Now, you and I were talking off 53 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:54.439 Mike and I kind of I was asking you directly, 54 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:57.800 how you get your inspiration, like the millions of topics 55 00:02:57.800 --> 00:02:59.800 you could come up with, How is it that there's 56 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:03.360 one or one area east side? Okay, I'm gonna sit 57 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:06.439 down and write an entire book on this area. This 58 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:09.240 turns out to be what we can call, at least 59 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:12.240 you agree with my description of it a prequel to 60 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:13.800 The Man Who Saved Cincinnati. 61 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:16.599 Yes, it is, because I take it from the earliest, 62 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:20.719 the earliest settlers who came to Cincinnati and settled on 63 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:23.479 the north side, north bank of the Ohio River, which 64 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.719 was extremely hazardous. Kentucky was settled first, and that had 65 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:31.159 been somewhat tamed. It was still very dangerous, but the 66 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:35.560 north bank of the Ohio River was absolutely no man's land, 67 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:39.639 and the Revolutionary War veterans were given free land here 68 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:43.360 because the treasury was broke and they couldn't pay these guys. 69 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.919 So the idea was, Okay, go out to Ohio and 70 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:50.520 help us open the Northwest Territory. And they did, and 71 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.400 they're just amazing stories about these people. But the way 72 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:55.759 I came to this was I have to go all 73 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:57.240 the way back to when I first moved here in 74 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:00.000 nineteen ninety two. And you may remember a city manager 75 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:03.159 named Jerry new Farmer. Oh sure, yeah, So Jerry, when 76 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:05.199 we went to lunch the first time I met him, 77 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:08.800 he gave me a book called The Frontiersman by Alan Eckert, 78 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:13.080 and that was all about Simon Kenton and his adventures 79 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:16.680 in Kentucky and Ohio against Little Turtle and Blue Jacket, 80 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:19.040 the Miami, and the Shawnee. 81 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:21.560 And I just found that fascinating. 82 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:25.399 So after I finished The Man Who Saved Cincinnati, I 83 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.879 went back and started digging and it just clicked. It 84 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:31.319 really felt good. So I took that period all the 85 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:34.399 way up to the Civil War. So lou Wallace makes 86 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:35.680 another appearance. 87 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:38.079 The Man Cincinnati, Yes, along. 88 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:42.199 With another great character named Charles Whittlesey, who was an 89 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.879 officer in lou Wallace's command at Shiloh and then helped 90 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:50.839 him build the defenses that saved Cincinnati and also is 91 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:55.360 probably the earliest and foremost researcher and archaeologist of the 92 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:59.879 mound culture around Cincinnati. His work is in the Smithsonian. 93 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.439 And this guy, he was from Cleveland, but he was 94 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:05.199 stationed here in Cincinnati, and he was. 95 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:09.600 And there were mounds everywhere in those days. A lot 96 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:10.560 of them have been. 97 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:12.879 Just activated excavated. 98 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:16.199 Yeah, but we had mounds in Anderson Township. We had 99 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:20.639 in Anderson especially interesting because they had a mound where 100 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:23.680 two guys went in. They built such elaborate tunnels in 101 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:26.759 the nineteen twenties they had they were lighted with electric lights, 102 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:28.759 and they went in there and they claimed that they 103 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:34.199 found skeletons of people who were seven feet tall. Yeah, 104 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:38.040 amazing stories. Okay, So we had mounds in Terrace Park 105 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.800 in Milford and Indian Hill of course, all over the place. 106 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.879 Even downtown Cincinnati had a really spectacular mound where an 107 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.439 artifact was found that's known as the Cincinnati Tablet. And 108 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:54.079 these mound cultures go back three thousand years and the 109 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.920 culture of those people goes back as far as thirteen 110 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:57.839 thousand years. 111 00:05:58.199 --> 00:05:58.879 Just think about it. 112 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.480 Now, were multiple tries. 113 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.040 I can't remember my Native American history, but I remember 114 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:05.639 going out to see the mounds when I was in 115 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.439 elementary school. They had a bus trip out there. Totally cool. 116 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:12.040 But were they Was it one particular tribe or was 117 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:17.160 this multiple tribes that that built the mounds various different 118 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:18.319 Native American tribes. 119 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:23.360 Well, we know that there were probably villages nearby because 120 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:27.160 it would take thousands of people over long periods of 121 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:30.439 time to build these mounds. They're just immense and they're 122 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:34.240 perfectly engineered. How do they do perfect circles that are 123 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:37.920 half mile across without transits or any of the modern 124 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:42.040 equipment that we use today. It's fascinating. It's a mystery. 125 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:43.279 You're going to have to read the book to find 126 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:47.240 out more. But I'll tell you what these people had. 127 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:51.000 Things like they had shells from the Pacific Ocean. They 128 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.879 find in these mounds. They found shark's teeth from the 129 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:55.959 Gulf of Mexico. 130 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:56.639 Wow. 131 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:00.360 So there was an elaborate, huge trading training culture. 132 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:00.920 Yeah. 133 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:03.160 And the Ohio River and all of this part of 134 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:07.040 Ohio right here, especially Cincinnati is really significant. 135 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:10.160 Okay, I got to own a back pedal to you. 136 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:12.639 You started out by talking about how the northern bank 137 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.519 of the Ohio River was not developed. Yes, said it 138 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:20.480 was hazardous and dangerous. The Kentucky side was what period 139 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:22.839 of time are we talking about when you're talking about 140 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.480 early settlers coming in and settling there as opposed to 141 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:27.720 Native American tribes already existing here. 142 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:31.879 Right seventeen eighties, right in the early seventeen eighties to 143 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:35.720 the early seventeen nineties is really where all this significant 144 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:37.560 history takes place, No kidding. 145 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:38.879 The first families were. 146 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:46.759 People like Ludlow stits Gano. All these in their papers 147 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:51.759 are all still preserved at the Museum Center in their archives, 148 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:53.959 and so I went through a lot of that stuff, 149 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:56.120 and it was so much fun to find these stories. 150 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.000 For example, I found the story of an eleven year 151 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:02.519 old boy named Oliver Spencer who was taken by the 152 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:07.360 Indians and held captive for two years. He was tortured, 153 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:14.079 he was beaten, he was The Indians were absolutely merciless. 154 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.839 In one four year period, they took fifteen hundred settlers 155 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:22.120 and they would be tortured for days at a time. 156 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:25.079 They might be scalped and killed, or they would be 157 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:27.959 sold to the British. The British would pay one hundred 158 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.879 dollars for a live hostage or fifty dollars for a scalp. 159 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:37.240 So what they were the British were still really cranked 160 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:41.480 about the Revolutionary War and enjoy losing. And what they 161 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:45.480 decided is that to keep us from expanding west into 162 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:49.200 to the land that they coveted for Canada, they would 163 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.000 use the Indian tribes, the Miami and the Shawnee as 164 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:56.240 their proxies, and they just encouraged them and what they 165 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:01.679 called in those days depredations to terrorize these settlers. 166 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:08.519 Now, did the prior to the British encouragement and egging 167 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:12.240 on to engage in this murderous behavior, did they have 168 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:16.279 a preconceived will to do that anyway because of how 169 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:18.480 the white men had treated them. Did they already know 170 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:20.000 in the back of their mind they didn't like these 171 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:21.480 guys they're invaders? 172 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:23.080 Was that the perception anyway? 173 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.320 So the Shawnee, first of all, you're absolutely right, the 174 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.960 Shawnee and the Miami this side of the Ohio River 175 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:30.000 was theirs. 176 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:33.080 Okay, And that's why it was so dangerous and unsettled. 177 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:35.399 Exactly, And Kentucky was considered kind of a Switzerland or 178 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:38.639 neutral hunting ground for all of the tribes around this area. 179 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:42.840 But the northern part of Ohio was theirs. But also 180 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:47.679 the torture, the brutality, the scalping, all of this was 181 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.759 going on for hundreds, maybe thousands of years before the 182 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:51.840 white man got here. 183 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:53.720 So this is what the tribes. 184 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:56.679 Waring among the tribes. Yeah, people always overlook that. They 185 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.440 think it was Native American gets white people. But now 186 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.360 we didn't. We didn't invest James right out, Oh, this 187 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:06.600 is what was it? Since Cain slew abled there's always 188 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:09.759 been problems of all people getting along together. 189 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:12.919 And our civilization has certainly had its share of brutality too. 190 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.720 More with Peter Broadson, he's in studio Promised Land, How 191 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:18.600 the Midwest was Won. You can get a copy of 192 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:20.840 that right on my blog page fifty five krs dot com. 193 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:23.720 But I really encourage all of my listeners to check 194 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:26.480 out all of Peter's works. You're just gonna love there. 195 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:29.120 Such they're just page turns. You can't put them down. 196 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:31.480 Seven sixteen fifty five krsit he talks, We'll be right 197 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.600 back Prestision Tiers. 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Tom 225 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.720 Brian said, I five one three two four seven zero 226 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:47.080 two two nine fifty five krc. 227 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:49.759 Hey, folks, garry solvent here, chippings. 228 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:52.600 Here, it is your ten and nine. 229 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.679 First one one of forecasts got overcast guys, a day 230 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:57.279 with isolated afternoon showers, high forty three, overnight lot of 231 00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:58.679 thirty eight with clouds. 232 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:01.879 Tomorrow it's going to be mostly too. 233 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:04.399 Partly cloudy as a day rolls on less clouds forty 234 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:06.879 eight and partly cloudy overnight with low of thirty four. 235 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:10.240 Fifty four for the high on Sunday with mostly sunny 236 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:12.879 skies thirty four. 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Northbound four seventy one slows just event 245 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:40.399 across the bridge. 246 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:43.559 Chuck Ingram on fifty five krs the talk station. 247 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:48.200 Seven seventy twenty one to fifty about KRCD talk station 248 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:51.360 a true honor it is for me, Brian Thomas, host 249 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:53.440 to the thirty five krc Morning Show, to be talking 250 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:56.080 to face to face in the studio. Peter Bronson, author 251 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.759 of the most recent book Promised Land, How the Midwest, 252 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.759 was one which we're calling up equal to his prior book, 253 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:04.360 which is absolutely awesome, like they all are. The Man 254 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:11.320 State of Cincinnati, were you were explaining this early history 255 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:15.000 in the Cincinnati area, describing the Miami and the Shawnee 256 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:21.399 very very very violent Native American Indian tribes killed a 257 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:24.000 lot of white settlers, the north side of the Ohio River, 258 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:29.799 Cincinnati very dangerous place to be. Kentucky, however, was a 259 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.600 state at this time. Yes, and this is what you 260 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:35.200 and I were talking about off air. And I'll be honest, 261 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:37.799 I have forgotten so much about my history and the 262 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:40.519 United States of America. It's embarrassing on some level. But 263 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:42.679 you know, these kind of books sort of bring that 264 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:47.159 back to mind, the evolution of our country. Yes, so 265 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:52.600 this was the Northwest Territory generally, exactly. 266 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:55.960 Britain had Great Britain, even though they lost to US 267 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:59.159 in the Revolutionary War, they had decided that they were 268 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:02.240 going to claim all of the Midwest, and just west 269 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:05.120 of that was Spain, and then we also had France. 270 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:08.879 So the world's superpowers were all kind of carving up 271 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:12.240 the North American continent and deciding who would get it. 272 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.000 The way Britain decided that they would get it would 273 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.360 be to just encourage these Indian tribes to be terrorists 274 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:22.799 and to make settling Ohio so dangerous and so bloody 275 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:25.799 and horrible that the Miami Valley was actually in those 276 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:30.000 days called the Miami Slaughterhouse. It was just that bad. 277 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:33.399 I mean, people couldn't even leave their stockade. Places like 278 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:40.200 Covalt Station, Columbia Station, with stations were little stockades or forts, 279 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:44.120 and they were probably a footprint the size of your garage, 280 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:46.159 you know, a little bit bigger. 281 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.000 Maybe tiny houses? 282 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.759 Yeah, well actually, and they would live in these little 283 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:53.919 blockhouses about as big as a garage. One of them 284 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.360 was James Kemper, who gave his name to Kemper Road, 285 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.679 who founded Walnut Hills Academy, and he lived in one 286 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:01.759 of those blockhouses. 287 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:04.360 Picture this with sixteen children. 288 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:10.919 Oh my god, oh my okay. You know, logistically speaking, 289 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.720 you know, we have our own bedroom in our house there, 290 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.960 Peter Bronson. Logistically speaking, how do you build a family 291 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:19.960 of sixteen children when everyone's living in the same room. 292 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:23.279 A different way of living life back then, I must 293 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:27.600 observe all right, kids, everybody out of the house. Mom 294 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:30.399 and dad needs some quiet time out. 295 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:32.879 I don't watch out for the Indians. 296 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:35.240 Yeah no, but I mean you really had to have 297 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:41.399 it almost called intestinal fortitude. Who just who accepts and 298 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:46.480 adopts that by choice? Yes, that kind of life. These people, 299 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:49.320 by the way, you're gonna be going in the most miserable, desolate, 300 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:53.960 dangerous place in the Well, it wasn't in the United 301 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:57.000 States by that, but in the territory. Well, well, I 302 00:15:57.039 --> 00:15:59.240 have fun, or you can move over to Kentucky and 303 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:01.639 where they have a real, relatively stable life your choice. 304 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:03.320 I just can't imagine people taking that on. 305 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:05.039 Well, you got to think of it from their point 306 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.120 of view, which is that they had been in a 307 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:09.879 culture in Europe where they weren't allowed to have land, 308 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.159 They weren't allowed to be anything but peasants under the 309 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:16.679 thumb of some other autocratic dictator or monarch. 310 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:18.960 Hold over the feudal area. So they those. 311 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.039 Families that came to Ohio, this really was the promised land, 312 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:27.240 because they described it as unbelievably rich soil, beautiful clean water, 313 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:32.120 unbelievable forests to build your houses and to build log 314 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:35.080 cabins and stations. And they would all come down on 315 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:41.480 these little flatboats that are slightly bigger than a big car, 316 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.639 go like huck Finn. Yeah, and they would have all 317 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:47.559 of their livestock, all of their implements, all of their tools, 318 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:50.399 all of their family eight or ten kids on one 319 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:53.080 of these boats. And a lot of those boats were 320 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:55.519 attacked by Indians before they even got here, and people 321 00:16:55.559 --> 00:17:00.320 were slaughtered. So but the land and the appeal of 322 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:07.400 that freeland, freedom, ownership, good soil, clean water, a future, 323 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.319 it was so strong for those people that they risked everything. 324 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.519 That's amazing. So at parallel could be drawn. People were 325 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.359 drawn out west. Maybe because of the gold rush. Yeah, 326 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:21.200 there was a commodity. You could become very, very wealthy. 327 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:24.400 In this particular case of the mindset was you can 328 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:27.480 be a landowner. Yes, so you can grow stuff, you 329 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:32.519 can finally own your property. And they had such horrible 330 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:36.480 experiences with the Indians. They sent the governor of the 331 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:39.640 first governor of the Northwest Territory with was General Arthur 332 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:44.960 Saint Clair, who was a revolutionary war veteran and he 333 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.720 was a close friend of George Washington. He named Cincinnati Cincinnati. 334 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:53.000 It was previously low Santyville. You've probably heard it, Yeah, 335 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:55.640 And he's the one who came and said, I don't 336 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:56.200 like that name. 337 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:58.480 It's kind of awkward, so I'm going to name it 338 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:01.079 after a society that George and I belonged to. 339 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:03.799 The Cincinnatis absolutely. 340 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:07.559 But then he led an expedition to subdue the Indians 341 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:11.839 and they were ambushed because he was a foolish general, 342 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:15.559 and they were ambushed near Fort Defiance, and he was 343 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:20.680 absolutely massacred. They called it the Battle of a Thousand 344 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:24.559 Slain and the stragglers who came back, their wives and 345 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:27.200 their children went with them, and they were all murdered. 346 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:30.119 They were all massacred there in the woods. And the 347 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:35.319 few who straggled back so much terrified Cincinnati that people 348 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:38.880 almost abandoned Fort Washington, which was the only foothold we 349 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:43.000 had in the Northwest territory. If that had happened, Great 350 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:45.839 Britain would have taken all of the Midwest. This would 351 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:46.559 all be Canada. 352 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:50.519 That's amazing. More with Peter Bronson, he's in Citio. We're 353 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:52.079 going to talk about this for the entire I could 354 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:54.240 talk to Peter for hours, so we're going to at 355 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:57.039 least get a couple more segments with him before we 356 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.640 hear from Brian Ibel from the Help Squad doing some 357 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:02.799 charity work and this wonderful opportunity to do charital work 358 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:05.680 season stick around. I want to mention Colling Electric though 359 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:08.920 calling Andrew Culling of the team of electricians are all licensed, 360 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:11.200 they're all take great care of your home, respectful they 361 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:14.480 are of your home and a well oiled machine. Every 362 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:16.279 time I sentioned that well oiled machine, I think a 363 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.799 lily the electricians. She's been with Color Electric for like 364 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:23.079 twenty years. Just a real firecracker working that crew over 365 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:25.400 my house doing all those can lights and what it 366 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:27.240 was over the period of like one or two days. 367 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:30.440 Just got it done and it's just beautiful work, I 368 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:32.759 think again, taking great care of your home. They're really 369 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:35.680 respectful of your home. And the price is always right, 370 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:37.960 so you can count on. Call it Electric. They have 371 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:39.519 an A plus of the Better Business Bureau. I you've 372 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:41.759 got a small project, you want to have an outlet installed, 373 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:44.440 they'll do it can lights like I did. Absolutely wire 374 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:46.359 up the whole house generated They did that for me. 375 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:48.920 They also did all the work on the new bathroom 376 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:50.160 modeling projects. 377 00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:51.480 So call them up. 378 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:53.519 You've got a ten year warrant you on everything they 379 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.039 do for you, and please give them my regards when 380 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:58.079 you do call them five one three two two seven 381 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:00.240 four one one two five one three two two seven 382 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.680 four one one two Find them online learn more. Cullen 383 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:09.720 c U L L E. N. Cullen Electric, Cincinnati dot com. 384 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:13.559 Fifty five KRC. Hello, I'm Victor Gray. Here's your nine 385 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:14.480 first twenty one poe cast. 386 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.000 Going to have a wet, overcast day to day, basically 387 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:19.960 some isolated afternoon showers a possible forty three for the high, 388 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:23.240 cloudy overnight down of thirty eighth. Tomorrow, mostly cloudy start, 389 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:26.200 partly cloudy, finished with a higher forty eight. Partly cloudy 390 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:29.240 overnight with a low of thirty four and fifty four 391 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:32.240 high on Sunday with most mostly Sunday skies thirty four. 392 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:36.039 Right now, time for traffic from the UCL Traffic Center. 393 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:38.960 Are you one of the thirty eight million Americans impacted 394 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:43.640 by diabetes? 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