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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball here

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<v Speaker 2>on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with

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<v Speaker 2>me today's co host Jeff Skurrin, you know him, former

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<v Speaker 2>high school football legit in town. How many years where

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<v Speaker 2>I find you? You didn't pull you off the golf

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<v Speaker 2>course today?

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<v Speaker 3>You know I've never since I was a teenager, I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't better golfer. So now you just pulled me away

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<v Speaker 3>from doing honeydewes and.

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<v Speaker 4>Chores and thank me later, thank you later.

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<v Speaker 3>And poking into possible jobs. Oh all the things the

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<v Speaker 3>recent retired do you know? You said at home? And

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<v Speaker 3>you go, hmm, yeah, I make a mistake here or not?

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<v Speaker 4>You suck at retirement.

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<v Speaker 3>I my wife, for ins told Greg Hansen, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>coach has only failed at four things in his life

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<v Speaker 3>retirement four times.

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<v Speaker 4>Four different times. Don't tell me you're looking to get back.

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, it's yeah, I am, I am, And

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get back to doing something and we'll just see

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<v Speaker 3>what pops up and you know, it's not the coaching,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not the time.

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<v Speaker 4>With the kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people talk about it's the parents and stuff. I've

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<v Speaker 3>never had that problem really. I really like most of

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<v Speaker 3>the parents. And well, a lot of it is I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just proactive and I talk to people.

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<v Speaker 4>And I enjoy what I do, and they know I

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy what I do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think most people have come to learn that

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<v Speaker 3>I know my stuff pretty decently, and so I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't get a lot of that, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>drunk yeah, and so that's never really bothered me. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's the it's it's kind of the state of schools

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<v Speaker 3>now and the adherence the rules and stuff. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have that on the field, but I have to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with it all day long with teachers that that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>don't understand what what a good athletic program or a

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<v Speaker 3>good music program or good drama program things like that,

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<v Speaker 3>what they can teach kids outside of the classroom area

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<v Speaker 3>about their life and how to conduct themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, yeah, we got question but that.

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<v Speaker 3>But but but drama and band and that, they all

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<v Speaker 3>those things do the same thing if you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>good coach behind it. And I missed that part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I do a lot of that with my

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<v Speaker 3>charity work now of course, and still work with kids

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<v Speaker 3>and and just you know, I went this summer to

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<v Speaker 3>Europe and I did eight clinics and we visited eleven countries,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of my old friends from coaching over there.

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<v Speaker 2>You uh, when we came in, you know, I joked

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<v Speaker 2>with you because I say, do you look good for

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<v Speaker 2>your age? You don't have to say your age on

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<v Speaker 2>the air if you don't want. But I'm sure the

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<v Speaker 2>kids kept you younger.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's any question about that at all.

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<v Speaker 3>They certainly keep you lively, they keep you informed. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the kind of teacher coach that when you ask

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<v Speaker 3>a question, I want to give you an answer that's

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<v Speaker 3>the real answer. I want to give you the full

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<v Speaker 3>picture and the full story. So I did a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of research and spend a lot of time because because

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<v Speaker 3>I think answer asking questions is a good thing. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's what students are at school for, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think as a good teacher coach, that's part.

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<v Speaker 4>Of your responsibility. Back and forth.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's great, it's a lot of fun. You were

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<v Speaker 5>in the business for Hull fifty years, fifty years, and

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<v Speaker 5>I've said this all along, and then maybe you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to say, Steve, you're wrong that the worst thing that

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<v Speaker 5>happen to kids athletically are the parents, and now specifically

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<v Speaker 5>because they seem the kids nowadays more so than in

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<v Speaker 5>the past, they're the meal ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing as a coach and a teacher, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>if you if you, if you wear both hats.

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<v Speaker 4>I see the kids of the morning when they get

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<v Speaker 3>I see the kids all day long, hanging out with

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<v Speaker 3>the very kids you told them specifically not to be with.

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<v Speaker 4>I see the kids. I see the kids at lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>I see the kids after school before practice again, hanging

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<v Speaker 3>out with the people that you probably wish they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>hang out with.

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<v Speaker 4>I see the kids for two two and.

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<v Speaker 3>A half to three and a half hours of practice

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<v Speaker 4>I see him at night.

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<v Speaker 3>I see him perform under the hardest stress you could

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<v Speaker 3>ever imagine. If if a parent thinks that we don't

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<v Speaker 3>know their children, they ought to walk in our shoes

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<v Speaker 3>for a little bit. When you count up waking hours,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with that kid, yeah, ten times.

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<v Speaker 4>More than a parent is. You're right, and so.

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<v Speaker 3>I like talking to the kids, and I like talking

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<v Speaker 3>to the parents, particularly the ones who are honest with

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<v Speaker 3>me about what their child is like.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you, because you're you're right, you

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<v Speaker 2>do spend a lot of time, you know, from eight

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, if not earlier, till the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, because they're with you at least for a

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<v Speaker 2>few months, right, if not more months. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>had a parent or two I'm sure you have, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? What's going on with our kid? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to figure this out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, oh yes, that's all. I get that all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. I was educated here. I came to Tucson

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty four to come to graduate school. I

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<v Speaker 3>was fortunate enough to get a scholarship at that time

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<v Speaker 3>with one of the best psychology departments in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>not the nation, but in the world, and I had

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<v Speaker 3>a great faculty advisor, and I was I got. I

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<v Speaker 3>received a great education psychology, and that served me so

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<v Speaker 3>well to understand the dynamics of a kid and the

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<v Speaker 3>world around them, which includes the parents, the home, the siblings,

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<v Speaker 3>their friends, and of course what happens to them during

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<v Speaker 3>the school day and with sports.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get this question every now and again. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing this a while as well, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>covered some great guys, great guys here in town for

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<v Speaker 2>a number of years. Great and a couple, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not some great guys. But people ask me what makes

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<v Speaker 2>the difference between a good kid and a bad kid?

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<v Speaker 4>You know who you like?

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to another guy you know is kind of so

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<v Speaker 2>early and kind of a pain in the The one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I say is they've got good parents.

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<v Speaker 4>The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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<v Speaker 3>But let me tell you something, and hopefully a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of parents and coaches out there will heal this. I

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<v Speaker 3>never assume when a kid does something wrong, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>a play on the field or just doesn't act properly,

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<v Speaker 3>do something like that, my first assumption is is maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they were ever taught this. It's one thing to speak

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<v Speaker 3>you're at a person, and I hear me speak at

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<v Speaker 3>a person, not with a person. It's one thing to

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<v Speaker 3>speed at a person. And that doesn't mean it gets absorbed.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't mean they understand it, that doesn't they learn it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you take what I teach a kid

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<v Speaker 3>like a quarterback, and so much of it is involves

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<v Speaker 3>muscle memory and if you allow them to do it incorrectly,

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<v Speaker 3>over time, it's almost impossible to change it. So if

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<v Speaker 3>they've had a bad coach coming up teaching them, yeow,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you should do it this way, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>in fact the incorrect way. That's very challenging for me

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<v Speaker 3>as a coach. So I've always assumed that that kid

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<v Speaker 3>wants to do well. You know, you say bad kid,

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<v Speaker 3>and yes, there are some, that's for sure, But most

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<v Speaker 3>kids are really good kids, even if they do bad,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just a matter of teaching them the right thing,

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<v Speaker 3>talking to them make them feel comfortable in a situation.

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<v Speaker 3>And that that's the thing with a sport like football

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<v Speaker 3>in particular, and of course any sport. I just spoke

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks ago the University of New Mexico baseball team.

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<v Speaker 3>The head coach there is one of my former quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Tossed around yeah from me, and and it's the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just don't assume these kids know what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's we're teachers. We're coaches, but we're also teachers.

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<v Speaker 3>We're teaching a sport, we're teaching manners, we're teaching behavior

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<v Speaker 3>on the field, We're teaching them win over the fans.

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<v Speaker 3>We're teaching them win over the referees. We're teaching them

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<v Speaker 3>win over your teammates. You know what they say about coaches,

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<v Speaker 3>You have to win the locker room. These are real question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>these are realistic things. And don't assume that these kids

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<v Speaker 3>automatically know what to do. And so that teaching process

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<v Speaker 3>and frankly, I find it to be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Call me, we'red guy. I just I just enjoy it

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<v Speaker 4>and I miss it greatly.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for everybody for listening. You reached the preaching point

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<v Speaker 2>of the eye on the ball segment. But no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I really like this. Let me tell you. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>interrupt us. We're gonna have PJ. Brown from the Daily Star.

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<v Speaker 2>She covers the women's basketball team at Dea Barnes and

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<v Speaker 2>all that that's going to start pretty soon was the

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<v Speaker 2>big twelve media days. So we're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>her about what's going on with the program. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the second half, we're going to talk to somebody you

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<v Speaker 2>know very well, have your morales from All Sports Tucson,

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<v Speaker 2>who's written a number of stories. Uh you know you

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<v Speaker 2>who hasn't written number of stories and you coach Uh let's

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<v Speaker 2>go let's go back. Uh you've been out a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're still coaching just maybe a year, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're at Rio Rico last correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was last December that I decided that pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much I'd done everything I could do down there.

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<v Speaker 3>My daughter, unfortunately, uh, her second her husband passed away unconnectedly,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had to deal with the trauma of all that,

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<v Speaker 3>sure and in some cases PTSD for that.

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<v Speaker 4>The kids and and they're back in Tucson.

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<v Speaker 3>So I really needed that that this time beating Tucson

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<v Speaker 3>to be there and even though it's not that far away.

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<v Speaker 3>The superintendent down there, David Verdugo, one of my he

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<v Speaker 3>played for me and one of my favorite football players,

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<v Speaker 3>And it was so much fun to learn that culture

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<v Speaker 3>and be part of it and to and assimilate with

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<v Speaker 3>those kids. I can't I can't tell you how much

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<v Speaker 3>I learned from those families down there about what the

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<v Speaker 3>border and what life is really like and not what

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<v Speaker 3>you see on TV. For sure, And that's almost a

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<v Speaker 3>joke now when I when I see the news about

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. Anyway, just with a great experience, but

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<v Speaker 3>I really needed to be back here and now there's

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<v Speaker 3>how to fill it. I'm still real healthy, I'm still

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<v Speaker 4>You know what. There's there's more on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Horizon, and uh, there's more games to win and more

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<v Speaker 4>When I go on the field, I want to have fun.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm with eight nine year olds, it's a different

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<v Speaker 2>In your years, you've had about you said fifty in

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming two a year. Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me go with this.

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<v Speaker 2>In your as a coach, would you have a smart,

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<v Speaker 3>The answer is yes. Now, I know you, I know

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<v Speaker 4>And a young a young man or a young woman.

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<v Speaker 3>And but I've had those kind of athletes and that

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<v Speaker 3>Everything you could think of, and of course people want

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<v Speaker 4>And the end they said yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And I like that answer because I think all kids

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<v Speaker 3>holding them to some demands because, after all, the answer is, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>do you want this? And they turned in and say yes, Coach,

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<v Speaker 3>I want this, And I say, I'm going to read

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<v Speaker 3>Very guy that holds you to your answer. Now let's

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<v Speaker 3>go over this again. Do you want this? I say yes, coach,

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<v Speaker 3>and I might even have have them signed a contract

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<v Speaker 3>or a card sometime. And believe me, it gets pulled

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<v Speaker 3>in their life. And listen, here's my here's my definition

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<v Speaker 4>Is that a good or bad thing?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a thing. It's good or bad maker, it's up

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<v Speaker 3>to you. But they can't see past Saturday. So you

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<v Speaker 3>want to punish him for a month, you might as

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<v Speaker 3>well punish him for.

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<v Speaker 4>A hundred years. They can't see past Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how to respond to you, because

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for the answer, but you didn't answer my question.

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<v Speaker 2>So but yes is an answer, I guess I don't

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for.

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<v Speaker 4>Showing up here that it's nice to have athletes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always nice to have athletes, sure, and it's real

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<v Speaker 3>nice to have someone that can respond, to deliver and

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<v Speaker 3>become a leader like say, uh, you know, I've had

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<v Speaker 4>The kid you remember on the field, you don't win,

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<v Speaker 4>you're your coaching. You win.

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<v Speaker 3>The kids have to win the game, and so you

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<v Speaker 3>can't ever forget that. So it's great to have those

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<v Speaker 3>kids that can go out there and be like I was,

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<v Speaker 3>which is just a coach on the field.

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<v Speaker 4>You need that.

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<v Speaker 3>You need that someplace out there because I talk about

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<v Speaker 3>I love those kids. Yeah, I talked about twenty to

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<v Speaker 3>thirty yards of separation. You know, people talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>That's the difference between the coach on the sidelines and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not in the huddle. I'm not there.

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<v Speaker 3>I need kids to deliver the message that I want delivered.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you don't have those kids in the huddle,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're exactly right. We got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Rivera, He's got his eye on the ball. On

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<v Speaker 1>Tucson's sports station, Fox Sports sporteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I on the Wall here on

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<v Speaker 2>POT Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today's coach

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Scurrin. Now on the fund we have PJ Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>It was on a Daily Star reporter covering the women's

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<v Speaker 2>basketball team.

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<v Speaker 4>How you doing, Pj?

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<v Speaker 14>I'm doing great. How about you guys?

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<v Speaker 4>We're doing well. Thank you. You must be excited about

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<v Speaker 4>the new season.

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<v Speaker 14>Absolutely. You know, it's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 15>I was just telling somebody this the other day, but

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<v Speaker 15>you know, as this season sort of ramps up, you're like, uh,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, you had summer, right, so it was a

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<v Speaker 15>little bit of slow down. Time, took some vacation, and

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<v Speaker 15>you're like, I don't know if I'm ready for the for.

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<v Speaker 14>The season to come.

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<v Speaker 15>And then I went to a couple of practices and

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<v Speaker 15>I'm like, oh, yeah, bring it, Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yah.

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<v Speaker 4>That that's an amazing thing that you go through. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>the exact feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, everybody says in coaching you have to embrace

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<v Speaker 3>the off season. And I think if you cover a

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<v Speaker 3>particular sport, it's the same way because you guys get

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<v Speaker 3>so involved in the details because that's what that's what

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<v Speaker 3>people want to know when they read the articles.

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<v Speaker 15>Absolutely, it's just we sort of live, breathe, eat, sleep

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<v Speaker 15>the sports, just like you coaches do. So we're always

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<v Speaker 15>you know, we write almost every day, either we're talking

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<v Speaker 15>to you guys, or we're and or we're writing.

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<v Speaker 14>And so there's you know, it's always funny.

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<v Speaker 15>I always tell people when when February hits in the

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<v Speaker 15>the end of January or February in the midst of

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<v Speaker 15>basketball season, we talk about the players hitting the wall

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<v Speaker 15>while the reporters hit the wall.

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<v Speaker 14>I hit the wall every time, and I have.

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<v Speaker 15>To like take a couple of nights and sleep a

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<v Speaker 15>little longer, or do something work out a little harder,

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<v Speaker 15>just to like, Okay, there's about six, seven, eight more

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<v Speaker 15>weeks of this season.

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<v Speaker 14>I got to just like push through this.

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<v Speaker 3>But you guys have such an important job because as

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<v Speaker 3>we say in football, you know, where does that all

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<v Speaker 3>American come from? And it comes from a long run

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<v Speaker 3>and a poet in the press box. So you people

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<v Speaker 3>take on a bigger role than most people would ever imagine.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We want the inside story, but but we also want

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we want to hear the nice things. That's

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<v Speaker 3>that's we want to be fans. And I think a

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<v Speaker 3>good reporter makes that happen.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, thanks, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>So now you're going to be a poet PG you

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<v Speaker 4>got to be a poet?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, now I do. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 14>of pressure. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a lot of stories because it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>small season. It's a five month season. If they go

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<v Speaker 2>all the way or go deep into the into the

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<v Speaker 2>March month, you know. So so what do you what's

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<v Speaker 2>up next? Because you're part of that special section, right

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<v Speaker 2>what are we going to look for?

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<v Speaker 15>So I have three stories in the special section. It

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<v Speaker 15>comes out. I believe it's the Sunday, right before the

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<v Speaker 15>day before both men's and women's basketball has their home

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<v Speaker 15>opener season home opener, which is on that November fourth,

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<v Speaker 15>which is a Monday. The women play it for the

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<v Speaker 15>men play at seven or eight I think must be

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<v Speaker 15>eight o'clock. And yeah, we're just gonna it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 15>jam packed.

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<v Speaker 14>Full of.

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<v Speaker 15>You know what, it's going to be like and and

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<v Speaker 15>Plus you know, with Arizona moving to a new conference,

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<v Speaker 15>there's a lot of more teams, there's a lot more

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<v Speaker 15>teams to get to know and their players and their coaches.

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<v Speaker 15>I was just doing the finish the what we call

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<v Speaker 15>the Big twelve capsules, which are just like a highlight

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<v Speaker 15>of all the schools their coaches, returners, addition what they

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<v Speaker 15>lost from last year, plus what we think about the team.

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<v Speaker 14>And wow, there were a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, I'm used to doing twelve and now there's

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<v Speaker 15>sixteen teams and I was like, oh my god, Like,

519
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<v Speaker 15>am I ever going to get through this? Plus at

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<v Speaker 15>the same time, you're you yourself as a writer reporter,

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<v Speaker 15>are learning about these schools that they're going to play.

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<v Speaker 15>Some of them we know, right, it's easy for like

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<v Speaker 15>the Utah's Colorado issue. We know them, we know their coaches,

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<v Speaker 15>we know a lot of their players. But when you

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<v Speaker 15>go into this new conference, you know, I know a

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<v Speaker 15>few of the coaches because for various reasons, I know

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<v Speaker 15>a few of the players because you know, there are

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<v Speaker 15>a couple of them that played in the Pac twelve

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<v Speaker 15>that maybe played for Arizona at some point, then they've

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<v Speaker 15>transferred out, so we know those players. And then there's

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<v Speaker 15>some who are just best players in the nation right

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<v Speaker 15>who are in the top fifty. Maybe they're all Americans,

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<v Speaker 15>and I've watched them play the last couple of seasons,

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<v Speaker 15>but a majority of them I have no idea yet,

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<v Speaker 15>and so it's going to take a while to learn them,

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<v Speaker 15>to learn about these schools and these programs, and that's

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<v Speaker 15>sort of the deep dive that we take. And then

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<v Speaker 15>as they come up and Arizona plays them, it's really

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<v Speaker 15>like learning about them all over again.

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<v Speaker 4>PJ.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a question about coach Barnes, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>from a coaching point of view, and you can't help

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<v Speaker 3>but notice this, and it happens to be number one

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<v Speaker 3>on my personal hit parade of what makes a coach

545
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<v Speaker 3>a great coach? Her teams get better as the season

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<v Speaker 3>goes on, and everybody sees that, and it just it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's really a wonderful thing to watch. What what what

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<v Speaker 3>do you think? What do you see as her particular

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<v Speaker 3>devices and ways that she pulls this off, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a fact every single year, you know, sometimes a

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<v Speaker 3>team at the beginning he goes, oh, it's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be such a good season, and then they were

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<v Speaker 3>competing for the pack, you know, for the PAC title.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, what's her secret? What do you see there?

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<v Speaker 14>Sure, well, there's a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, it's interesting yesterday at media day, you know,

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<v Speaker 15>they asked Ado about being picked seventh in the league,

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<v Speaker 15>and she said, I don't care. I don't here where

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<v Speaker 15>I'm picked preseason because it's more important where you finish

560
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<v Speaker 15>than where you start, right because she wants to be

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<v Speaker 15>playing for titles. She wants to be in the NCAA Tournament,

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<v Speaker 15>journament every single year and making a run.

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<v Speaker 14>And that's what her goal is.

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<v Speaker 15>What I see, and you know, I always talk about

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<v Speaker 15>the development that Idea has brought to this program with

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<v Speaker 15>her and coach Salvo Kopa as well as the other coaches,

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<v Speaker 15>but those two sort of it's there. It's Ideas program

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<v Speaker 15>and Salvo has been with her obviously throughout the whole

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<v Speaker 15>her whole tenure here.

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<v Speaker 14>It's the development.

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<v Speaker 15>It's it's that every day, besides having practiced during the season,

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<v Speaker 15>they work on fundamentals.

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<v Speaker 14>They have individual skills sessions.

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<v Speaker 15>So it's not just in the off season where they're

575
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<v Speaker 15>lifting and there and they're they're getting those individual skills

576
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<v Speaker 15>sessions and learning a little bit about the system that

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<v Speaker 15>Adia runs. But it's what they do every single day

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<v Speaker 15>in the season. This makes a big difference. Most schools

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<v Speaker 15>don't do this. I was talking to the assistant coach

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<v Speaker 15>Bett Shelby last year about this, and I had asked

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<v Speaker 15>her about this, and she said, because she's coached at

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<v Speaker 15>Maryland with Brenda Freese, she coached at West Virginia under

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<v Speaker 15>Mike Carrey, and and a lot of other places. And

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<v Speaker 15>she said schools, just coaches, just head coaches, don't do this,

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<v Speaker 15>and that it seems to be the key where idea

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<v Speaker 15>is a she works with them every day and and

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<v Speaker 15>and they peak at the right part of the season.

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<v Speaker 14>You saw this last.

589
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<v Speaker 15>Year with with Skyler Jones was a perfect example of this. Right, So,

590
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<v Speaker 15>she's a freshman, she comes in, she has a little

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<v Speaker 15>bit of success, but not a lot. And then when

592
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<v Speaker 15>they have the injuries and they lose a lot of players,

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<v Speaker 15>she comes in at the last portion six weeks or

594
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<v Speaker 15>so of the season, all of a sudden, she's starting.

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<v Speaker 15>She gains a little bit more confidence, she starts scoring,

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<v Speaker 15>she starts being more of a threat on defense, where

597
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<v Speaker 15>she uses her long arms to play Arizona defense, gets steals,

598
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<v Speaker 15>does all these.

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<v Speaker 14>Things that.

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<v Speaker 15>Makes the Arizona system what it is, right, and that

601
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<v Speaker 15>happens as you go along, and as the season goes along,

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<v Speaker 15>not only are they developing like that every day, but

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<v Speaker 15>Idia puts in a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 14>Of the system.

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<v Speaker 15>So you will see new things being introduced, especially on

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<v Speaker 15>the defensive side of things, as the season progresses, which

607
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<v Speaker 15>is always really neat, but it's just not like they

608
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<v Speaker 15>stop learning. You know, they're learning every day and the

609
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<v Speaker 15>system's becoming more robust and they're starting to do things

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<v Speaker 15>that are more technically advanced as the season goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and that's what I saw. That's why I asked

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<v Speaker 3>you that particular question. And the other thing that you

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<v Speaker 3>added to that that I think is just wonderful to hear,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's that she's in that she's there with every

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<v Speaker 3>single step personally, which which tells her athletes. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the this is primarily important. You know, if you if

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<v Speaker 3>you you know, of course you have to count on

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<v Speaker 3>your assistance, but if you form things out that the

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<v Speaker 3>athletes know that that's a secondary thing. If you, if

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<v Speaker 3>the head coach does it, that's a primary thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's great to hear that say that, because I say,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're talking about some of the golden rules

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<v Speaker 3>of coaching, and but the results are obvious. Like I say,

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<v Speaker 3>I watch what she does and I see them get

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<v Speaker 3>better and better, and it makes me feel good as

626
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<v Speaker 3>a coach because I just think that's what we're supposed

627
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<v Speaker 3>to do. I mean, we can, we can control the

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<v Speaker 3>hand we're played to a certain extent. But a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of coaches in today's world, particularly the transfer portal in

630
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<v Speaker 3>the nil that they don't want to coach anymore.

631
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<v Speaker 4>They want they want to recruit a team.

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<v Speaker 3>And now you're seeing I think we got a chance

633
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<v Speaker 3>to see what happens when you really can impact your

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<v Speaker 3>kids on a day by day basis.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me let me ask you a quick question

637
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<v Speaker 2>about the roster. Uh, it's my understanding. I could be wrong.

638
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<v Speaker 2>You know, we all know Tommy Lloyd's got nine scholarship

639
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<v Speaker 2>players and one hundred on his bench with walk guns.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it Dia has the same Is she doing the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing with at least with the scholarship players.

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<v Speaker 15>She's got all scholarship players on on? Uh, she had

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<v Speaker 15>two walk guns last year in Aaron Tech who also

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<v Speaker 15>is on the the track team and she's a javelin thrower,

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<v Speaker 15>but she got injured right away, and then she brought

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<v Speaker 15>on Brooklyn Roads, also a walk on, and about a

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<v Speaker 15>week or two after they were brought on, I think

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<v Speaker 15>Brooklyn was even earlier. She put them on scholarships. So

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<v Speaker 15>they're still on scholarship. So all fourteen players. They have

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<v Speaker 15>a fifteen limit, fifteen player limit in women's basketball, and

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<v Speaker 15>she's got fourteen and they're all on scholarship.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I didn't realize that one and two do

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<v Speaker 2>you think how deep will she go?

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<v Speaker 15>She might go pretty deep this year. I mean typically

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<v Speaker 15>Adia Barnes goes like eight nine deep. And the tricky

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<v Speaker 15>thing this year is that she's got all these really

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<v Speaker 15>interesting pieces that as you move into the Big twelve

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<v Speaker 15>and there's it's a different style of play. So they

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<v Speaker 15>have real centers in the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 14>They're kind of big.

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<v Speaker 15>They're more like Reagan Beers who used to play for

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<v Speaker 15>Oregon State, really big tall girl, uh woman, and and

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<v Speaker 15>so a lot of it's that way, which is which

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<v Speaker 15>is not? You know, Pac twel was more of a

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<v Speaker 15>finesse kind of a league. It's a little different, and

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<v Speaker 15>so I think to compete, she's gonna be throwing out

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<v Speaker 15>a lot of different looks. She has a lot of

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<v Speaker 15>post players this year, so she'll have a little bit

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<v Speaker 15>more depth, which will help. And I think she's gonna

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<v Speaker 15>sometimes go small and be more, have that more finesse,

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<v Speaker 15>and sometimes go a little bit bigger. I think she's

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<v Speaker 15>got the pieces as long as these new players and

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<v Speaker 15>the you know, the freshmen come along to do some

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<v Speaker 15>of this, and so it's gonna look I think a

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<v Speaker 15>little bit different. So I could be wrong. She could

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<v Speaker 15>end up just sticking with those nine and and being

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<v Speaker 15>that way. But the other day when I talked to her,

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<v Speaker 15>she said, oh, I'm gonna have different lineups and so,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, different rotations and stuff come in. So that

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<v Speaker 15>leads me to believe that she could use more than

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<v Speaker 15>the eight or nine players than she typically does.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess the star of the star or two

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<v Speaker 4>would be.

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<v Speaker 15>I think it's it's tough because they don't have a

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<v Speaker 15>real star star. I mean it's not like I can't say, oh,

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<v Speaker 15>Halana Pueo, right, And as Mary Martinez, I think it's

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<v Speaker 15>the sophomore class. So the three plus Mantea who Mantea

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<v Speaker 15>do who they consider a freshman because she was out

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<v Speaker 15>injured last year. But the class of Jada Williams, Brea Cunningham,

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<v Speaker 15>Skuyler Jones and then Montea do, I think those are

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<v Speaker 15>the real.

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<v Speaker 14>The leaders of this team.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, super PJ. Good luck, It's gonna be a long season.

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<v Speaker 15>Thanks, thanks, and it was great talking to you, especially

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<v Speaker 15>you coach. I haven't seen you in a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've been with laying low here a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit impossible, impossible, but you know, you know, in our business,

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't know when the phone is going to ring.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got a call from Italy this morning. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean you just yeah, you know, you just you keep

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<v Speaker 3>your whistle wet, you know.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, absolutely, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You will, PJ, thank you, thank you. Yes, interesting interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>They start soon like the men, and we'll see how

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<v Speaker 2>they do. I mean, picking seventh in the league. She

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<v Speaker 2>used the overchiefs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I'll tell you what if you if Adella

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<v Speaker 3>Barnes is connected to it, they're going to compete. And

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<v Speaker 3>I love watching her coach. I love watching her on

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<v Speaker 3>the sidelines. I've seen her a couple of times of

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<v Speaker 3>practice and and the people. If you haven't seen that happen,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a fortune of nature that that that woman knows

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<v Speaker 3>her job and she knows how to coach.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like say, for me, it's a it's a real

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<v Speaker 4>joy watching her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's as popular as anybody in town with their social

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<v Speaker 2>media stuff. So let's take a break here, come back

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<v Speaker 1>Streaming live on the Iheartsradio WIP. This is Eye on

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<v Speaker 1>the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports Sports fifth Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, welcome back to Are in the Ball hero on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen. Cooky, I'm Steve Rivera, He's Coach Skurrin,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Sturren, got Henry work on the board. If you

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<v Speaker 2>to coach five two zero four one six seventy four

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<v Speaker 2>forty you'd like to hear from you?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you have a story about coach now stories, no stories,

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<v Speaker 4>We don't enough time for stories. Uh, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what happens with the ones basketball team. We're

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to both the programs. Both should be pretty good,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and still middle of the road right in

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<v Speaker 2>the conferents. That's fantastic. You're gonna let me ask you

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<v Speaker 2>this philosophy wise, your schedules were your schedules, right you, Patty?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you couldn't your schedule your scheduled? Did you get

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<v Speaker 4>the schedule a time, a team or two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you try to, you want to, you want to

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<v Speaker 3>have input in there, but there's so many factors that

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<v Speaker 3>goes into that, and it's much more complex in college

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<v Speaker 3>too because of the travel involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so let me let me throw this at you then. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so your schedule is what it is. I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 2>trying to sprinkle in a tough opponent early to see

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<v Speaker 2>what you need to work on, who you need to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, figure out who's going to play whatever. You're

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<v Speaker 2>a philosophy guy who played tough early and see what

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Do, or just let me get some wins.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, it's it's kind of a mix and

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<v Speaker 3>it depends upon what you got coming back. If you

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<v Speaker 3>have all rookies coming back, you want a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>get on the court or in the field. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was just watching the UFA basketball and they're playing the

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<v Speaker 3>D two team from a lot in Las Vegas, New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just like.

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<v Speaker 4>People say, well, what are they doing that for.

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<v Speaker 3>They're getting their guys used to playing together against someone

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<v Speaker 3>else other than the scrimmage and you end basketball. They

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<v Speaker 3>do two, three, four of those games before they even

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<v Speaker 3>think about playing the powerhouse. And then they'll go into

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<v Speaker 3>a tournament sometimes over in Hawaii or some other place

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<v Speaker 3>that really doesn't count, and then they see what they

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<v Speaker 3>can do. But that thing doesn't it's a special tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't really. Of course, everything counts, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really count against your conference. Now, Arizona this year, as

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<v Speaker 3>they've discarded in football, is going into a new, entirely

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<v Speaker 3>different creature. And I've heard them talk about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not at their meetings, so I just really don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just know what happened with football, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not the pack anymore. And this is that these guys

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<v Speaker 3>live on being physical most of their athletes.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course they in the portal now.

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<v Speaker 3>They come from everywhere, but most of their base athletes

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<v Speaker 3>are coming from Texas and Oklahoma and places like that,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, people got to realize athletically, you've got Texas,

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<v Speaker 3>California and Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me let me ask you this. You can

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<v Speaker 2>be critical if you like. You don't have to be

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<v Speaker 2>critical if you don't want to. Do you think because

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's on better now and I'll just prefer.

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<v Speaker 4>It that way.

848
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that the team, because it moved into

849
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 2>a different conference just wasn't prepared for the new conference

850
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and the style. Is that a part of the problem.

851
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And again I'm not to be critical.

852
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know exactly how you prepare, but I think

853
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.480
<v Speaker 3>there should be an awareness that you're going into an

854
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 3>entirely different type of comforts where they just assume punch

855
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.239
<v Speaker 3>in the mouth in football is look at you. And

856
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.159
<v Speaker 3>I of course I remember how they play basketball, and

857
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.199
<v Speaker 3>it's not going to be a whole lot different. I mean,

858
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 3>they're going to run you, and they're going to beat

859
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.559
<v Speaker 3>you up, and they're going to press on you. We're

860
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 3>going to get completely different officials and in basketball that's.

861
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Really a thing.

862
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:18.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's a thing in every single sport, but

863
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 3>in basketball it's really a thing, and it's going to

864
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 3>get a little bit like stepping up into the NBA.

865
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, well PGA talked about it. She used the word

866
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 2>that I've used a lot is finesse. You're going for

867
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:30.480
<v Speaker 2>finesse to physical.

868
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.960
<v Speaker 3>And finesse is great, but it's got its time and place,

869
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:38.079
<v Speaker 3>and it's the old rock paper scissors type of thing.

870
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, it depends upon what you got.

871
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 3>If you got finesse people that can hang in there,

872
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, whether the storm of being the other physical

873
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 3>team and be finesse, yeah, that can work. But so

874
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.840
<v Speaker 3>it's a much more complex thing. But here's the thing, Steve.

875
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 3>It's now sixteen teams, so you're.

876
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:58.800
<v Speaker 4>Going to get a lot more of that. You're not

877
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.440
<v Speaker 4>going to get these some of these easier teams sprinkled in.

878
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have to it's I talked about the SEC,

879
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.199
<v Speaker 3>having having played in there myself and a background in

880
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 3>there as a coach, and you know, when you're in

881
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.880
<v Speaker 3>the SEC every week as a battle, maybe you get

882
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.519
<v Speaker 3>one a season, and if you can really got a

883
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:19.920
<v Speaker 3>good a D you can get two and it's not

884
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:21.679
<v Speaker 3>just to get a break for your other guys. It's

885
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 3>to play a lot of your other guys, your backups,

886
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 3>and get those guys playing time because practice becomes real different.

887
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 4>When they get on the.

888
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:31.119
<v Speaker 3>Field, they they want their job too, So so it's

889
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:32.280
<v Speaker 3>a it's a much bigger thing.

890
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 4>But in the SEC.

891
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:35.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, one, you know, when I was a scout

892
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 3>team quarterback. You know, one week or I was Georgia,

893
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:40.639
<v Speaker 3>next week I was Alabama. The next week, I was Miami.

894
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 3>The next week I was Florida State, next week I

895
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 3>was Auburn. You know, where's the break?

896
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.599
<v Speaker 4>Wait a second, you were a quarterback, a backup in

897
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:49.119
<v Speaker 4>the SEC. Backup.

898
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:53.000
<v Speaker 3>That's been way too complimentary, way too. I was rocky

899
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 3>with my bag on the hook.

900
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:57.199
<v Speaker 4>So because you're not a tall man, so so you

901
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 4>know that you're exactly saying what is going through? Well, yeah,

902
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 4>he's about an inch taller than me.

903
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 3>But back then, at least we had the option and

904
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 3>that was my special okay. And when I went to Florida,

905
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 3>that's that's what they were running under, a guy named

906
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Lindy and Fonte before I got there. And then they

907
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:14.639
<v Speaker 3>made the switch based on this guy that no one

908
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Speaker 3>ever heard of out of Johnson City, Tennessee named speed

909
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 3>Steve Spurrier and all he did was won the Heisman Trophy.

910
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't know that. You know, that's interesting. Okay, Okay,

911
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:26.880
<v Speaker 2>so you know, you observe you, you see what's going

912
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:28.639
<v Speaker 2>on at you. They again, you don't have to be

913
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.960
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's totally different than what we thought would happen.

914
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 4>Whether they fix it, we'll see. Well, it's totally different

915
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 4>from what you thought would happen.

916
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 3>I just happen to know people in different places to

917
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.519
<v Speaker 3>tell and well, these guys were licking their chops.

918
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.239
<v Speaker 4>For these pack teams. Okay, that makes sense. They were.

919
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:50.480
<v Speaker 3>They were because and it's not anything personal against coach

920
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Brennan or against any of the players or anything like that.

921
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 3>It's just that the idea that this you're coming into

922
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:00.960
<v Speaker 3>our territory, you're coming into our houses. You're coming you're thinking, look,

923
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.119
<v Speaker 3>look what's happened to the old Big ten teams that

924
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:05.079
<v Speaker 3>have gone to the SEC.

925
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Speaker 4>That's a real lesson for them.

926
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 3>Sure, I'm sure that Texas had no concept of what

927
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Georgia was going to do to them. And it wasn't

928
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 3>just Georgia. Here, Steve, here's the thing. It was Georgia,

929
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.400
<v Speaker 3>it was Alabama, it was it was it was Mississippi,

930
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:21.480
<v Speaker 3>was South Carolina, it was I mean, it was these

931
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 3>teams that they're all loaded with great athletes and great.

932
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 4>Football everybody, but Oregon is not doing well. Yep. And

933
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 4>Oregon's got a different They got it. They're a little

934
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:33.280
<v Speaker 4>bit different, you know.

935
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:37.119
<v Speaker 3>It's hey, listen, we're in college football is now semi

936
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:40.159
<v Speaker 3>pro football. And I say semi not not to say

937
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.400
<v Speaker 3>the old semi pro. The most of us know they're

938
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of pro football. Sure, it really is. And and

939
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:49.679
<v Speaker 3>it's a completely different management now. The successful teams that

940
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 3>you're seeing right now that have this initial success in

941
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:54.639
<v Speaker 3>terms of depth and all these other.

942
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.400
<v Speaker 4>Things, it's not just coaching.

943
00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:59.519
<v Speaker 3>They have somebody that really knows how to manage that

944
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 3>trans for portal and the NIL. And it's not just

945
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 3>the head coach. Maybe he had to go out and

946
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 3>buy somebody, you know, that was really good at that stuff.

947
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:09.280
<v Speaker 3>But that is now a part of it. Just like

948
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 3>when I went to Pima, I had to have an opsky.

949
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:13.800
<v Speaker 3>If I didn't have an OPS coach, there's no way

950
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.800
<v Speaker 3>in operations for people that don't know that word.

951
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:18.840
<v Speaker 4>There's no way we could have been nearer successful as

952
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:19.320
<v Speaker 4>we did.

953
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Because that allowed me to have the time to coach

954
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:24.159
<v Speaker 3>the kids and deal with those issues and problems.

955
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.519
<v Speaker 4>And you have to have that now it's not the

956
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 4>same staff that you used to have.

957
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 3>And again, like I said, nobody wants to nobody wants

958
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.000
<v Speaker 3>to coach anymore. But if you're, you know, a school

959
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't have the money or doesn't have the wherewithal

960
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:42.519
<v Speaker 3>to get these a roster filled with star players, your

961
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 3>only other option is to have a system where you

962
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 3>could develop your guys. And of course we have a

963
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.119
<v Speaker 3>new staff and it's a new conference and there's a

964
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 3>lot of new stuff through it.

965
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me pull this at you then, because before

966
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:57.119
<v Speaker 2>the season started, the Clemson coach tell me who he is,

967
00:45:58.079 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, the football coach Clemson.

968
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 4>I just lost his name, Dabas Whenie doubles win.

969
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 2>So he's one of the guys that doesn't like the

970
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:06.239
<v Speaker 2>transfer portal. I'm not sure how well he's doing it,

971
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 2>drove next day, but out of the game, no exactly,

972
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And everybody could have says, well, you're gonna need to

973
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.519
<v Speaker 2>do it to compete. Well, he's doing okay, and maybe

974
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.880
<v Speaker 2>it's a one off. But but and let me go there,

975
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 2>so so do you think the nil And this is

976
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:23.119
<v Speaker 2>an obvious, stupid question that people are going to be

977
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.840
<v Speaker 2>paying off a lot of money to win the games,

978
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:29.480
<v Speaker 2>and not all athletes win games because you can You

979
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.760
<v Speaker 2>talked about development. If you're a good coach and you

980
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:33.960
<v Speaker 2>can develop players, you can still compete with the people

981
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:35.039
<v Speaker 2>paying off their kids.

982
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 3>I think just look at Texas A and M. You

983
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.559
<v Speaker 3>don't have to look any farther than that. You could

984
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:41.519
<v Speaker 3>pay and you could recruit, and you could do all

985
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:43.639
<v Speaker 3>this stuff. Good point, but it wasn't a good mix.

986
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 4>It just wasn't.

987
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Don't blame the coach. That coach didn't get off the

988
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.039
<v Speaker 3>bus at college station and become a bad coach. That

989
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.599
<v Speaker 3>was a good coach, and it just it was the

990
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.440
<v Speaker 3>next it's the wrong guys. And that's the crapshoot that

991
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:58.039
<v Speaker 3>you take with us transfer portal. You know, you know

992
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.239
<v Speaker 3>every year you've got a good Now Tommy Lloyd is

993
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:03.800
<v Speaker 3>doing a great job of managing that and making these

994
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:06.880
<v Speaker 3>guys play together. And yes, we have some issues we

995
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 3>can get better at and anything. And he'll be the

996
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:10.760
<v Speaker 3>first guy to tell you he's he's super. He's just

997
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.480
<v Speaker 3>a really good dude. And and but it's a it's

998
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.159
<v Speaker 3>a different it's a different beast that we're trying to

999
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.480
<v Speaker 3>manage here. Guys like Nick Saban decided, I don't need

1000
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:21.880
<v Speaker 3>this anymore. I got enough money, I got enough friends,

1001
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.760
<v Speaker 3>I got enough national championships. Bam bam, I don't need

1002
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 3>this anymore. Dobbos in the heart of his career, and

1003
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.599
<v Speaker 3>he's going to make the adjustment. He's not just a

1004
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.000
<v Speaker 3>great coach, he's one of the best motivators that we

1005
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 3>have in the game. And he's not afraid to surround

1006
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.280
<v Speaker 3>himself with other good people and pass the credit along.

1007
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look at his uh, look at the guys

1008
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 3>that he's already spawned in.

1009
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 4>His coaching career. And he's going to be fine. And

1010
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:45.400
<v Speaker 4>Clemson believed.

1011
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 3>Clemson has the resources, they're going to be able to

1012
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 3>play in this game.

1013
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.320
<v Speaker 4>But you just can't do it by yourself as a coach.

1014
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.760
<v Speaker 3>As much as you'd like to look at everybody's film,

1015
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:56.239
<v Speaker 3>as much as you'd like to negotiate personally with these

1016
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.239
<v Speaker 3>kids and spend time with the middle of the room,

1017
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 3>that you're you're not trying to sell their parents anymore.

1018
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:03.360
<v Speaker 4>You got to sell You got to sell it to

1019
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:05.000
<v Speaker 4>their agents, no question.

1020
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Well look at Tony Bennett, a guy fifty five years old,

1021
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:11.320
<v Speaker 2>very successful, had his bumps and bruises as well, but

1022
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:13.599
<v Speaker 2>a lot of life left in his coaching career, and

1023
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.679
<v Speaker 2>he says, yeah, I think I'm done and we're not here.

1024
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, Dave Rubio has retired because Candrea is gone,

1025
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and they're older obviously, but you know, why deal with it?

1026
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm out of here. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you.

1027
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 3>On almost every one of those cases, I know those

1028
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 3>guys personally, age was not a factor in any of

1029
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.559
<v Speaker 3>their decisions. Right, those guys could still coach. I mean

1030
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:36.039
<v Speaker 3>they're great guys personally. But those guys you mentioned, they're

1031
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 3>great coaches. But then again, you get to look at

1032
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:40.400
<v Speaker 3>the guy at Indiana and all of a sudden, where'd

1033
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 3>he come from? Well, the system played into his skill set.

1034
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.679
<v Speaker 3>He's a good coach regional football, Yeah, a really good coach,

1035
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 3>and yet he knows how to manage that transfer portal

1036
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.079
<v Speaker 3>plus mix it in with the guys because Indiana is

1037
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:56.639
<v Speaker 3>in a school that can go out and get thirty

1038
00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:58.239
<v Speaker 3>guys on the nil.

1039
00:48:58.480 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 4>They're not going to do that.

1040
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:01.480
<v Speaker 3>But what they can do is they can get some

1041
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:04.519
<v Speaker 3>key guys they could work in the development, and they

1042
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 3>could mold that into a really good, solid team that's

1043
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:08.639
<v Speaker 3>in every game.

1044
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 4>My old saying is, hey, if you're going to win

1045
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.599
<v Speaker 4>the big game, you got to be in the game,

1046
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:14.039
<v Speaker 4>in the game, in the fourth quarter.

1047
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Right now, let me ask you another quick thing, because

1048
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 2>one of the criticism that Brendan is getting is that

1049
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:19.880
<v Speaker 2>he's a nice guy.

1050
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 4>We all can say that he's a nice guy. Right.

1051
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 2>He's not a fiery guy, and maybe he's behind the scenes,

1052
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:27.559
<v Speaker 2>but we haven't seen it. I think you're a pretty

1053
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 2>good guy. I haven't really followed you on the field

1054
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 2>and how you show up on the field. Right, If

1055
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.559
<v Speaker 2>you're a fiery guy, good guy, they respect you. I'm

1056
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<v Speaker 2>a believer that you have to have some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pain in the neck and I want to use a

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<v Speaker 2>different word, but I'm on the radio to be a

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<v Speaker 2>very good coach, because that's how they're going to respect you.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to run through walls for you, coach. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do things that you if you sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of just sit there, or motivates however

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<v Speaker 2>you motivate, but you're on the right track.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just rephrase that a little bit. There has

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<v Speaker 3>to be some sort of mistake about you to be

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<v Speaker 3>the head coach. It's not a secret thing, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>something it's just something that the players buzz about, something

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<v Speaker 3>they do. I think in my case, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of I make a promise, it's done, I get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>They do their part. I do my part, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>real reliable when it comes to that. And at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, I think I'm a disciplinarian. There's certain things

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<v Speaker 3>that we're going to stand for on my teams and

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<v Speaker 3>you have to develop that. And it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>different in every school. When I went from Sabino, where

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<v Speaker 3>we frankly we won too much. That sounds strange, but

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<v Speaker 3>my interest in coaching kind of waned when I was

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<v Speaker 3>there because, I mean, guys, we were nine out of

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<v Speaker 3>ten years we were.

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<v Speaker 4>In the semi finals of the championship game and we.

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<v Speaker 3>Were averaging forty to fifty points in the first and

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<v Speaker 3>second round of the playoffs. That's too easy. There wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>enough of those games. I go to Pema College and

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<v Speaker 3>it's all different. We got to scrap for every single thing.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved every part of it. Well, that's kind of point.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't happen by and I'm not trying to blow

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<v Speaker 2>smoke with you, because it doesn't happen by accident.

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<v Speaker 4>You were doing very well. They must have.

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<v Speaker 2>You must have had something, some kind of magic where

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<v Speaker 2>they play their ass off because either you're a paint

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<v Speaker 2>of the net coach behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm same ding.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to respect you. I say this a coaching

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<v Speaker 3>clinics all the time. Look up on that scoreboard, moms

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<v Speaker 3>and dads, look up on that scoreboard. Fans show me

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<v Speaker 3>where it says nice guy points.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't get any. You don't get any, don't get any.

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<v Speaker 4>And but but at the same time, you have to

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<v Speaker 4>win the locker room. That's just no question.

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<v Speaker 3>That's part of coaching. And it doesn't matter the sport,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter the level. You have to win the

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<v Speaker 3>locker room. So there is that balance, there's that mystique

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<v Speaker 3>that you can create. Listen, I could get my lineman

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<v Speaker 3>when I was coaching at Pima. I'd get these three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred pounders. I'd go into the offensive line huddle, and

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<v Speaker 3>I could get them crying. You could ask Kevin Amanan,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's the principal now Sabino High School and he

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<v Speaker 3>was my offensive line coach. Hey, co coach, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you get them to do that? They were scared the

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<v Speaker 3>death of you. They weren't scared the death of me physically.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm five to eight, one hundred and fifty pounds. These

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<v Speaker 3>guys were sick three six seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's here's what I would think, and we gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. They didn't want to disappoint Jeff Screw.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like to think that I really would, But you

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<v Speaker 4>know who knows. You have to talk about that's my

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<v Speaker 4>that's my theory.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll take a break and go to the other

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<v Speaker 2>side and get breaking news from Henry here in a second.
