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<v Speaker 1>Ripped up.

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<v Speaker 2>News need advice, so you don't have them run just

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<v Speaker 2>as fast as we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoots gonna help. Come man, is.

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<v Speaker 2>The Troubleshooter Show. No, Tom Martino, Hi Tom Martino here,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show. Give us a call if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a problem, a question or complaint and you need help,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we're doing here. Help, help, help, So welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the show. Three ozho three seven one three talk

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<v Speaker 2>three oh three seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's new in your life and how can we

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<v Speaker 2>help you? We ask that every single day, and today

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<v Speaker 2>we are all gathered in the studio at the Mothership.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have YouTube up and running yet? Not yet?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well we're having a problem with the internet here,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got to be patient. But we have all

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<v Speaker 2>the deputies in house today. We have Deputy Chopper, Deputy,

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<v Speaker 2>we got Deputy Dollar, Deputy Doc, Deputy Bo and we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to solve problems, answer questions, take complaints, and make

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<v Speaker 2>your life just a little easier. Now, there's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of things I want to talk about. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>guy call in that said he was a Joe I

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<v Speaker 2>think his name was. He said he was a retired

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<v Speaker 2>last year on para got a lump sum of sixty grand.

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<v Speaker 2>He called in two days ago and he said he

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<v Speaker 2>was a janitor. And then he said that when he

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<v Speaker 2>got his lump sum of sixty grand, he paid off

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty thousand dollars in bills. He said he had

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<v Speaker 2>about forty left thirty eight to be exact, and somebody

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<v Speaker 2>called him and said, uh, you need to send your

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<v Speaker 2>money to us because in cash you got to actually

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<v Speaker 2>take tinfoil and load up your wrap up your cash

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<v Speaker 2>and put it in a ups package and send it

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<v Speaker 2>to us because your account has been hacked for child

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<v Speaker 2>pornography and you're going to be arrested unless you do this.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you do it, we'll get your money back

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<v Speaker 2>when the investigation is over. Now, we so many YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>morons and marked outed it, said it was a quack

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<v Speaker 2>and a phony story. I don't know if it is

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<v Speaker 2>or not. I said, you know, it is sounding pretty

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<v Speaker 2>far fetched. We asked him if he had to fill

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<v Speaker 2>out anything for the ten thousand dollars withdrawal. He said

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<v Speaker 2>he did ten thousand dollars each time, not more than ten.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said he went and got it four different

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<v Speaker 2>times for forty thousand dollars and then he sent it.

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<v Speaker 2>So we wanted to see a bank statement to prove

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<v Speaker 2>that he actually did this and he really did have

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<v Speaker 2>a bank account, because some people thought he was lying

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<v Speaker 2>to get money from us. By the way, our numbers

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<v Speaker 2>three oh three, seven one three talk if you need help,

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<v Speaker 2>information and referrals or it's three oh three Martino three

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<v Speaker 2>oh three six two seven eight four sixty six. So

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember that case? Now, guys, I wasn't here yesday.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing some other things and Mark took the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we go over that bank account yesterday? Is Mark

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<v Speaker 2>signed on or not yet? Is he no? Okay? So

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<v Speaker 2>apparently he did send in a bank statement and it

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<v Speaker 2>showed that he made withdrawals. Did dollar? Did you not?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you listening or were you here? You said, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he sent in the bank statement. Do you know that?

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<v Speaker 2>Just you got to move the mic close to your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not gonna hear it. Yeah, Mark looked at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he did, okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I mean you can clearly see those withdrawals

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<v Speaker 4>made on the account.

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<v Speaker 2>So this guy withdrew cash, wrapped it up in foil,

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<v Speaker 2>and you ps'd it to someone.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>This is happening so much to so many older people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. I want to take some calls. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we have Dan McKenzie in, and Dan McKenzie does a

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<v Speaker 2>state planning, wills, trusts, all of that, and I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you there are a lot of older people being taken

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<v Speaker 2>for their money. I mean millions, hundreds of millions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars come.

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<v Speaker 6>I get that all the time when I do my

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<v Speaker 6>AARP thing. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>You work on the volunteer lines there and on AARP

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<v Speaker 2>and they call and say, I just somebody just took

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<v Speaker 6>Same thing that we do here, basically, except that it's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot more of what this guy went through than

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<v Speaker 6>individual consumer problems. But it's mostly scams from you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>provent grants or real estate deals or anything, and a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of romance scams.

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan, it's your turn. Hi, I'm Tom Martino. What's going on, Jonathan?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Friday, Uh the ninth on, I got a text

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<v Speaker 7>on my phone that says a change was made to

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<v Speaker 7>your account called six one. One of you did not

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<v Speaker 7>request a change.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh no, let's thro by Team Mobile.

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<v Speaker 2>Well all right now, wait, you were texted on your

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<v Speaker 2>cell phone. Yeah, and it and your the cell phone

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<v Speaker 2>you were texted on is a Metro phone, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>by Mobile? Okay, it's it's by T Mobile.

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<v Speaker 7>Well they call it Metro by Tim Mobile. Yeah Metro okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got a text and then what did you do?

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<v Speaker 7>And then the next thing, you know, my phone is

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<v Speaker 7>shut up, like I have no service on my phone?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? And why Well, from.

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<v Speaker 7>What I understand now after getting through all this, they

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<v Speaker 7>they ported my number to someone else. And my number

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<v Speaker 7>is someone else's number now, just out of the blue,

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<v Speaker 7>for no reason.

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<v Speaker 2>They just I won I wonder if it was a

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<v Speaker 2>miskying or something a mistake or I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>anyone would want your number. Did you have a very

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<v Speaker 2>special number?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it's been my special number for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean it doesn't spell anything, does it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not anything special? So you okay, this text? How long ago?

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<v Speaker 2>How long ago did the text come?

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<v Speaker 9>Bro?

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<v Speaker 2>How long ago?

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<v Speaker 7>It was just Friday, August ninth.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay? And it said what exactly what did is say?

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<v Speaker 7>It says a change was made to your account. Call

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<v Speaker 7>six to one one if you did not request a

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<v Speaker 7>change Metro.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you, and then you did you call them?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I called them when I realized my phone wasn't working anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And they said, your number is no longer yours.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, My number was ported to somebody else or other.

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<v Speaker 7>And It's what's weird is when I call my number

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<v Speaker 7>or it goes to my voicemail, and whoever has it

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<v Speaker 7>I've called several times doesn't even answer the phone or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they know it goes to your voicemail?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I told him I was just the Metro.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how how is Metro helping you? If anything? What

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<v Speaker 2>are they doing to help you?

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<v Speaker 11>They're not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 7>They're saying too bad, They're basically not doing anything. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>gonna call the police. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the police aren't going to do anything.

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<v Speaker 8>And I don't think su Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this was a mistake. I can see no

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<v Speaker 2>reason why anyone would want someone else's number unless it

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<v Speaker 2>was something like you know, three h three Martino. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying because of my name. What I mean

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<v Speaker 2>is like we have some other numbers like seven seven

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<v Speaker 2>to one help, or there are certain numbers people want,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't you know, like, uh, McKenzie, here is

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<v Speaker 2>eight three three co plans eight three three co plans

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<v Speaker 2>is his number for Colorado plans for a state planning.

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<v Speaker 2>So but but your number just out of the blue,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody took it. I think it was some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>keying mistake. But for them not to help you or

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<v Speaker 2>even look into it as ridiculous. So right now you're

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<v Speaker 2>hold on is your cell phone literally dead?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I might have my cell phone, but there's no service

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<v Speaker 7>on it. In other words, like you have a phone

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<v Speaker 7>with no service?

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<v Speaker 12>Theres you can't you know?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, if you call my phone right now and leave

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<v Speaker 5>a messages, good, the.

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<v Speaker 7>Message comes up, and you could leave a message. But

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<v Speaker 7>I don't get the message. I can't access my message.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I can't think. I thought you said you could

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<v Speaker 2>get your voicemail. No, oh, you can't dial into your

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<v Speaker 2>So you can't dial into your voicemail and change it.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh no, the phone is in another name.

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<v Speaker 2>The superca got it. So you found out the number

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<v Speaker 2>was ported to someone else. Do you know who it was?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, they know, they can. It's it's a guy named Dave.

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<v Speaker 7>I don'n't say his name.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Smith. David Smith, David Smith. With your phone number,

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<v Speaker 2>and and and and they said, what do you need

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<v Speaker 2>to do now? Did they say they they have a

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<v Speaker 2>record of you? Right? What do they say you need

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<v Speaker 2>to do right now?

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<v Speaker 7>They say I need to Uh, they won't help me.

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<v Speaker 7>They said they can't get into my account and I

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<v Speaker 7>give them the you know, it goes by my phone number,

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<v Speaker 7>like if you if when you log.

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<v Speaker 11>In it's by my phone number.

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<v Speaker 2>No. But what I'm asking is do they have a

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<v Speaker 2>record of you paying a bill and being part of them?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>They do.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, can they get you another phone if you wanted it?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying you want it, But if you said, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I need a phone. I need my phone turned back on,

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<v Speaker 2>even with another number, would they do it?

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<v Speaker 10>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>I already have a phone with another number. That's what

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<v Speaker 7>I'm on now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Is that a metro phone or is it with

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<v Speaker 2>someone else?

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<v Speaker 7>I got it when I was at the store.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Did they Okay, so they got you a new phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have to pay for a new phone?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 13>They charged me for everything?

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<v Speaker 2>And what happened? Did you trade the old phone in

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<v Speaker 2>or do you still have it?

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<v Speaker 8>I still have it?

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<v Speaker 2>And they had no solution for you other than a

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<v Speaker 2>new phone with a new number. All right, hold on this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy that they would have a record of

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<v Speaker 2>you and they don't have any kind of porting instructions.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand this. Who wants to call? We got

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<v Speaker 2>to call Metro or and team over or someone. And

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<v Speaker 2>even if they don't want to talk about this particular issue,

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<v Speaker 2>they need to talk to So we need to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to someone who has some knowledge on how things are

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<v Speaker 2>ported and how numbers can be lost. Anybody who I

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<v Speaker 2>got you all in the house. Who would who? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give it to Dollar. I'm gonna I'm looking up. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm serious. Let's do that. What do you think Dollar?

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to Let's try calling during the show

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<v Speaker 2>if we can to see I am. I am baffled

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<v Speaker 2>back to the phones. I believe Mark's with us now, Mark.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, And by the way, YouTube Comcast is sending somebody out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all messed up? Man? Is it messed up in

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<v Speaker 14>I couldn't tell you that they they said they're sending

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's why we're not on YouTube, So be patient.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to get up and running as soon as possible. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark on that one guy that said he had sent

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<v Speaker 2>in the money. Are you a believer now? Is this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think?

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<v Speaker 15>Well?

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<v Speaker 14>He definitely, he definitely withdrew. He's getting evicted today, by

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<v Speaker 14>the way, but he definitely withdrew from what he sent me.

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<v Speaker 14>He definitely withdrew around thirty eight thousand dollars in a

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<v Speaker 14>two day period. It was kind of a weird looking

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<v Speaker 14>thing he sent me. I didn't have a bank name

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<v Speaker 14>or anything like that, but I do I do think

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<v Speaker 14>it was a print out that he got from someone

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<v Speaker 14>at the branch. So I do believe he withdrew it.

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<v Speaker 14>Whether or not he wrapped it in tinfoil and sent it,

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<v Speaker 14>I just don't know. I mean, my god, can anybody

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<v Speaker 14>on the planet be that damn stupid?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 7>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>It's serious? It's serious. And if this guy's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be evicted, I mean, what do we do? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's out. Well, here's the other brand we can't put

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<v Speaker 14>Well, here's a whole other problem with it. It's not

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<v Speaker 14>just putting it up to guy's got no job. So

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, it's like, okay, we pay his rent. Are

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<v Speaker 14>we gonna pay for his groceries, We're gonna buy him

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<v Speaker 14>a car. We're gonna pay his rent next week. Oh

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<v Speaker 14>it's terrible, It is just terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I want to speak about this, uh this in general.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have older relatives, friends, neighbors, please please please

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<v Speaker 2>not doing anything stupid like that. Now, Metro PCs Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 2>Just so you know, we're gonna give this to Deputy

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<v Speaker 2>Dollar to make some phone calls. It can't be that

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<v Speaker 2>easy to simply call and have somebody's number ported and

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<v Speaker 2>then you're without service. At least you got another phone,

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<v Speaker 2>you got another number, you're up in business. But they

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<v Speaker 2>charged you for that, and you should have never been

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<v Speaker 2>hearing from Deputy Dollar. Now, Eric's got a problem. Oh no, Eric,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta hold on. Okay, I'm going to go back

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<v Speaker 2>have not been on yet, Bonnie, Bonnie, what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>with you? Bonnie? Welcome to the show. Hi Tom, Hi Bonnie.

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<v Speaker 10>I know your show and I find it interesting to

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<v Speaker 10>get knowledge from it. And it's also fine and I've

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<v Speaker 10>been listening since you came on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So what's going on with you, Bonnie?

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<v Speaker 10>My problem is I moved out of this apartment before

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<v Speaker 10>my doing thirtieth deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, then, so before what? What deadline was it?

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<v Speaker 10>June?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? All right?

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<v Speaker 10>And the thrill Estate company which is BRC since for

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<v Speaker 10>beware ripoff companies, they're charging me for July rent of

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<v Speaker 10>twelve and forty dollars, which I didn't live there in July.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, hold on, hold on. When you said you

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<v Speaker 2>moved out before the deadline, was that the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the lease?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, they were renovating the apartments and okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well here's what I'm asking. Why did you move out?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just start there. Did they ask you to move?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, because they were going to renovate the apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have that in writing? They asked you to

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<v Speaker 2>move yes, okay, And they said you had to move

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<v Speaker 2>by a certain.

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<v Speaker 10>Date, yes, by June thirtieth, And you.

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<v Speaker 2>Moved by June thirtieth, and you hand it in the

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<v Speaker 2>key and all of that.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, they're closed on June thirtieth, which was the Sunday.

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<v Speaker 10>So I waited and turned in my key on Monday,

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<v Speaker 10>which was the.

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<v Speaker 2>First And what did they say to you?

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<v Speaker 10>So now they're charging me this rent and utilities for

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<v Speaker 10>July which was fortys Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, but did they say to you it's because

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<v Speaker 2>you turned in your key on Monday.

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<v Speaker 10>No, they didn't give in any explanation. They just gave

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<v Speaker 10>me a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill that but they know that you're out of there.

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<v Speaker 10>Right, yes, And they're charging me for July land And

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<v Speaker 10>then also they're charging me four hundred and fifty for

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<v Speaker 10>a few items that I left. They were all packed

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<v Speaker 10>up and I was going to donate them, but they

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<v Speaker 10>I just left them in the apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you didn't move out. That's what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying you didn't move out. How much did you

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<v Speaker 2>leave in the in the apartment?

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<v Speaker 10>It was just a little bit, I mean, it would

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<v Speaker 10>all tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a little bit. What is a little bit to

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<v Speaker 2>a hoarder? A little bits a lot? What is a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about?

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<v Speaker 10>Okay about maybe seven seven bags of stuff that would

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<v Speaker 10>have only taken them ten minutes to take.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not their job to do that as far

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<v Speaker 2>as they're concerned. Maybe I'm not look at I'm not arguing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to try to help you. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>thinking you didn't leave.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, they knew I had met because I had turned

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<v Speaker 10>in my cheet and everything, and I told them that,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, I had, I was out of there. And

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<v Speaker 10>then they're charging me like four hundred and fifty just

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<v Speaker 10>to remove those few items. And then they're keeping my deposit,

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<v Speaker 10>which is five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so hold on, in addition to the rent, they're

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<v Speaker 2>charging five hundred in addition to the rent.

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<v Speaker 10>Of my deposit. That was my deposit five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now I'm asking another question that I need a

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<v Speaker 2>very simple answer. Are they in addition to the twelve hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>they want to keep five hundred for a total of

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen hundred? Is that what I'm is that what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hearing it's a.

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<v Speaker 10>Total of two thousand, one hundred and ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So they want the full rent, plus they want

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<v Speaker 2>your deposit, plus they want cash. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>For fisty, how can they have it both ways. They're

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<v Speaker 2>charging you to move out those bags and they're charging

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<v Speaker 2>you for some other stuff. Plus they're asking for the

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<v Speaker 2>full rent.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, so it's a total of t ninety, which is

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<v Speaker 10>and I think it's a great and because it's twelve

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<v Speaker 10>forty the rent.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, go ahead, Bo. What did you want to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Is his mic working?

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<v Speaker 12>Hear Fannie, this is Deputy We gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>Turn Okay, that Mike doesn't control that that Mike turn

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<v Speaker 2>them on?

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<v Speaker 12>Got me on? Yeah, go ahead, Fannie, this is Deputy Bo.

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<v Speaker 16>You called in about three and a half four weeks

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<v Speaker 16>ago regarding that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, wait did you take that call? Did you take that?

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<v Speaker 12>I know about it?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 16>It's about where Shiva is going to be. They were

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<v Speaker 16>remodeling the entire apartment and they gave her a notice

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<v Speaker 16>to vacate months in advance. And you had like ten

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<v Speaker 16>or twelve boxes in the apartment and you had nowhere

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<v Speaker 16>to go or.

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<v Speaker 2>They gave her months to do this.

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<v Speaker 12>I believe so. And Donnie, if you remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I did, could you take the case then?

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<v Speaker 12>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And what did you find?

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<v Speaker 12>Well?

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<v Speaker 16>They were at first, they were a little strong about it,

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<v Speaker 16>but once I told them what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>They gave Vonnie. Uh, why you say Vonnie with a V?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it Bonnie with a V as in Victor?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it Bonnie with a B? As a boy, I.

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<v Speaker 12>Thought it was Bonnie. Ronnie. Do you remember me talking

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<v Speaker 12>to you?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it, So it's v as in Victor. Yes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I was calling you Bonnie.

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<v Speaker 16>Go ahead, okay, So Bonnie, they told me that they

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<v Speaker 16>would give you an additional They found you an apartment

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<v Speaker 16>because they're remodeling the whole complex, right, yes, so they

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<v Speaker 16>probably what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy six year old woman? I just found it? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, so I thought they kind of went above and

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<v Speaker 16>beyond because they were evicting the entire building.

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<v Speaker 12>They gave everyone proper notice.

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<v Speaker 16>But in your situation, they were able to find you

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<v Speaker 16>a different place. And I think you had to have

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<v Speaker 16>incurs some charges in that move, but you were able

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<v Speaker 16>to stay in the complex without moving out.

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<v Speaker 5>They told me that where are you now?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you now?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I'm in a different location, but they never told

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Bonnie, listen, listen, Thank goodness, you're in another location.

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<v Speaker 2>But bo said he had it worked out where it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to cost you this much and you would

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<v Speaker 2>have been able to get in there. But here's what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tell you. It doesn't matter at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>It truly doesn't matter because here's why. Don't pay it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if you sent to collections, don't they what are

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<v Speaker 5>they going to garnish?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what your income is? Well, what's your income?

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<v Speaker 10>You mean my total income? Of how much I get?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know sources of income? What are your

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<v Speaker 2>sources of income?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I have income and enough to pay for my rent.

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<v Speaker 2>Vonnie, I'm asking a question, what are the sources of

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<v Speaker 2>your income?

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<v Speaker 10>I have social security that can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Be that can't be garnished. What else?

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<v Speaker 10>And I have a pension that.

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<v Speaker 2>I get And what is that pension from?

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<v Speaker 10>It's from uh? Asking like the company?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it from a job that you had?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you get a pension of how much it's I'm

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<v Speaker 2>asking this to help you, not to trick you.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I know it's about three something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you get social security of about how much?

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<v Speaker 10>About four hundreds?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? You get nothing? Then you get and do you

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<v Speaker 2>do you have a big bank account, big fat bank account? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have.

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<v Speaker 10>It's not big and fat, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's enough to how much is in it? I need

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<v Speaker 2>to know about.

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty five Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, they're going to come after that. Then I was

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<v Speaker 2>wrong when I told you they won't. They'll they'll try

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<v Speaker 2>to get an attachment of that. You may have to

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<v Speaker 2>wrap it up and foil and send it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding, by the way, Bonnie.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Well, then the TOD is tw and ninety for for.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, just listen. You know, Deputy bo said this

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<v Speaker 2>was a total misunderstanding. They were bending over backwards to

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<v Speaker 2>get you into another place. They would have transferred your

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<v Speaker 2>security deposit and all of that, and you said you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know it, and he talked to you about it.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, he told me that he just told me that

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<v Speaker 10>there was a place that I could move into that

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<v Speaker 10>was low income. And then that was That was the

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<v Speaker 10>extent of it. I didn't hear anything else, Bonnie.

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<v Speaker 16>The property manager there was very nice. Her name was Amanda.

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<v Speaker 16>She's the one that said that she would locate a place.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I never got that information. You never you never

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<v Speaker 10>called me up and told me any information.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking.

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<v Speaker 16>Okay, it's fine, she said, she would find you a

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<v Speaker 16>new place, and Amanda even tried to said you'd contact

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<v Speaker 16>your sister and that they'd make the arrangements for you

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<v Speaker 16>to move into him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to tell her, Man, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we can help her. If I can say this,

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<v Speaker 2>we can we call them and see if they'll give

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<v Speaker 2>her a break on the rent.

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<v Speaker 12>Tom, That's what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 16>I call Amanda the property manager and see if they

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<v Speaker 16>can give you a break on this two thousand dollars charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just see if they'll do that for you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much, bo. But what I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you is that switch doesn't control anything because

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing plugged in there. Okay, there you go anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sorry. Guys, some housekeeping here three O three

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<v Speaker 2>seven one three eight two fivey five. We have more

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<v Speaker 2>coming right up. Stick on the line. We'll stay with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer

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<v Speaker 2>you're contenth time for an insurance check up free, no obligation.

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<v Speaker 2>In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage

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<v Speaker 2>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three all

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<v Speaker 2>three seven seven to one. Help. You'll think you're his

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<v Speaker 2>only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate

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<v Speaker 2>man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance

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<v Speaker 2>three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Martino here three O three seven one three talks

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<v Speaker 2>seven one three eight two five five. All right, why

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<v Speaker 2>is Jonathan still on? Where Jonathan doesn't need to be on? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting at taken care of off the air, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we have Heyes, who's hayes So you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>plumbing issue? What's going on? Haesus? Are you there? Heesus?

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<v Speaker 5>Hello?

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<v Speaker 2>Dog on it. I want to help you here. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he's on, right, I think I think I

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<v Speaker 2>let's you check Shannon. I just put him on hold again.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're gonna go back to Eric first. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to Dan McKenzie COEO Plans dot Co and

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<v Speaker 2>he's an estate planning attorney. If I had a dime

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<v Speaker 2>for every time we have this frickin' question, i'd be rich.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, people aren't texting me on my Google

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<v Speaker 2>Voice private message, it comes to my cell phone too,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can text me there too. Okay, it is

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<v Speaker 2>my number is okay, seven four seven fifty two eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where you can text me seven four seven nine

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<v Speaker 2>nine fifty two eighty. Can I have you're ready? Can

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<v Speaker 2>I have a handwritten will? If so, where do I

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<v Speaker 2>keep it?

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<v Speaker 17>It?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any special reason not to? Again, if I

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<v Speaker 2>had a dime for every time we talked or a dollar? Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>What about handwritten wills? Yes, you can have a handwritten will.

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<v Speaker 18>Any document that evidence is testamentary intent, meaning it's a video.

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<v Speaker 12>No, not video. It's got to be written.

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<v Speaker 18>Oh got anywhere handwriting, it's got to be signed, it's

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<v Speaker 18>got to be dated.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a terrible idea.

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<v Speaker 18>Do not do this, Okay, Why the chance that you

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<v Speaker 18>can comprehensively write out everything you really need to include

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<v Speaker 18>in a will in your handwriting? Like, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 18>just ridiculous. Yeah, you're not going to think of everything.

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<v Speaker 18>And if you're going to do corrections, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 18>it's going to be a mess, and who's going to

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<v Speaker 18>be able to read it?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just going to be a lot easier to

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<v Speaker 2>case somebody. It's obvious somebody doesn't want to hire an attorney,

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<v Speaker 2>which for a simple will sounds to me ridiculous. But

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<v Speaker 2>they could theoretically get a word doc and sign it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's it's got to be.

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<v Speaker 18>If it's not in their handwriting, then it's got to

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<v Speaker 18>either be notorized or witness preferably both.

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<v Speaker 2>The hard copy.

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<v Speaker 18>Yet yeah, yeah, because the reason the handwriting works is

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<v Speaker 18>because you know, you can do a handwriting analysis and

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<v Speaker 18>prove whether it's the person who actually wrote it.

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<v Speaker 2>Still has to be signed though.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, a word doc you can't do that, so we

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<v Speaker 18>gotta have more evidence that you actually did it. And

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<v Speaker 18>that comes to the witnesses of a notarise.

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<v Speaker 2>And why is this fear about wills? I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody calls and says, you know, I'm married and I

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<v Speaker 2>have two grown kids, and I don't own a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and what's going to be a simple will? Can you

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<v Speaker 2>give them an estimate? Dan, because people always want to know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just go, okay, give me the I'll bet

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<v Speaker 2>you this. We can't say how high wills go because

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<v Speaker 2>you could have a complicated estate, but i'll bet you

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<v Speaker 2>we can say you've done some pretty basic wills. So

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<v Speaker 2>what what's the low on a pretty basic, and again

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<v Speaker 2>people don't expect it if you don't have a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>basic will. But let's just hear the low end.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, so usually we include powers of attorney, other

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<v Speaker 18>documents too that you need for other situations besides death,

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<v Speaker 18>which are more likely more likely than death, so you

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<v Speaker 18>got to deal with those things too, or we're doing

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<v Speaker 18>all that stuff, you know, for a single person. If

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<v Speaker 18>it really is straightforward, no trust planning, it could be

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<v Speaker 18>a little less than a thousand bucks you can do.

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<v Speaker 18>You know, you can find stuff online that is cheaper.

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<v Speaker 18>But the problem we see is.

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<v Speaker 2>Not for a thousand bucks, you get an attorney and

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<v Speaker 2>get it all the way.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, people do not know what makes a mistake

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<v Speaker 18>complicated or what's going to make it hard to administer.

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<v Speaker 2>What does make it complicated? Tell me some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that would make it more than normal.

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<v Speaker 18>You know, when you're dealing with anything outher than cash.

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<v Speaker 18>Our biggest problems are with real estate. And it's not

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<v Speaker 18>like fancy real estate. It's like a house that people

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<v Speaker 18>are fighting over that people that want to live in,

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<v Speaker 18>or you know, somebody wants to keep, or personal property.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like beneficiary deeds that automatically move to the person on.

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<v Speaker 18>I like them when they were giving a house to

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<v Speaker 18>one person. You're throwing people into co ownership of real

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<v Speaker 18>estate together, and they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Not good idea. Owning a house of their spouse is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you if you want to do a beneficiary

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<v Speaker 2>ded to three or four people, you will. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 18>They are there is no way to resolve disputes. They

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<v Speaker 18>are coequal.

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<v Speaker 2>We got another one coming in on this, okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>hang on. That's Dan McKenzie McKenzie law. He'll be here

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<v Speaker 2>for the show. H And Rhanna Rhanna, I think it's Rhiannon.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take you right after this along with Eric.

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<v Speaker 7>Eric.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have patience, I will go back to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do have to give for time. First time

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<v Speaker 2>of owlers go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer

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<v Speaker 2>you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation.

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<v Speaker 2>In comparison, call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage

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<v Speaker 2>at dozens of insurance companies. Find out now three O

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<v Speaker 2>three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his

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<v Speaker 2>only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate

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<v Speaker 2>man dot com to list your home with REMAC Alliance

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<v Speaker 2>three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Martino, you're a troubleshooter three all three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three talks seven one three eight two five five Rhianna

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<v Speaker 2>And what's going on with you? Rhiannony?

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<v Speaker 15>So we have an issue. We're an electrical contractor and

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<v Speaker 15>we made a return to one of our supply houses.

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<v Speaker 15>It was a large return back July of last year.

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<v Speaker 15>And July of last year we made the return. They

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<v Speaker 15>didn't start issuing the credits and complete any of the

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<v Speaker 15>credits till September.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did they normally do it? How do they

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<v Speaker 2>normally do it?

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<v Speaker 15>Every other supply house does it the same day.

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<v Speaker 2>But have you ever dealt with this supply or before

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<v Speaker 2>with a refund?

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<v Speaker 10>Not?

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<v Speaker 15>Typically. There was one other instance, probably three or four

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<v Speaker 15>years ago. Or we returned two items and it took

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<v Speaker 15>them three months to actually record Bill's items. They returned

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<v Speaker 15>the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I think of a return, is this.

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<v Speaker 15>One about thirteen thousand?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Is that considered large?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah? For us, that was a large return, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And why would I'm just asking these basics because they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to probably ask, they're going to probably challenge it

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<v Speaker 2>or something. Why did you return it?

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<v Speaker 15>By the way, Rhanna, we were during COVID, we just

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<v Speaker 15>could barely get our hands on anything. So we're buying

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<v Speaker 15>a stock supply of stuff.

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<v Speaker 13>Just so we could operate.

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<v Speaker 2>And then is there a restocking fee for doing it?

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<v Speaker 15>I was fully expecting that we would have a restocking fee, because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like they were financing you for free.

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<v Speaker 15>Right right, and I'm planning to paint a restocking fee.

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<v Speaker 15>My problem was they gave us a three thousand dollars

650
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<v Speaker 15>credit and half of the items aren't on the return.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, Wait a minute, So you returned them

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<v Speaker 2>actually when.

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<v Speaker 15>July second and you didn't get.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you only got three grand? Yes, but when

655
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<v Speaker 2>did you get the three grand in September? Now did

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<v Speaker 2>they did they say that's it or is more coming?

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<v Speaker 15>No, they said we returned the last item.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, wait wait, wait, So why is there

659
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<v Speaker 2>a ten thousand dollars discrepancy?

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<v Speaker 15>That's what we're trying to figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they saying that, Okay, when you give the list

662
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<v Speaker 2>of what your return and how did you return it?

663
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<v Speaker 2>Did you ship it or did you know?

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<v Speaker 15>The first thing that we did we sent an email

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<v Speaker 15>to them saying, hey, we're going to come down and

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<v Speaker 15>bring these returns. Please let's let us know there'd be

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<v Speaker 15>an issue with this is what we're bringing down and

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<v Speaker 15>returning to you. And it had all the item codes,

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<v Speaker 15>the numbers, description, everything. We brought it down, went over

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<v Speaker 15>it with the manager. And when we went over it

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<v Speaker 15>with the manager, he walked through everything and he goes,

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<v Speaker 15>the only issue we might have is this wire because

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<v Speaker 15>this was special order from Vegas.

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<v Speaker 13>I'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So how much was that?

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<v Speaker 15>So the only thing we got wet about it?

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<v Speaker 2>He said there he said, there may be a problem

678
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<v Speaker 2>with one item. How much was that item?

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<v Speaker 15>We could be like a thousand or two?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So that still doesn't make up for the

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<v Speaker 2>ten grand. Hold on a second, I just don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>you were in You were in a supply Okay. A

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<v Speaker 2>deputy bow is in business, dealt with suppliers all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>an HVAC business. We'll talk to him. Also, we have

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<v Speaker 2>Jr has a comment on the phone scam. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know which phones, oh, but also Rhiannon. We need to

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<v Speaker 2>finish with Rihanna, and then I have Jeremy on from

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<v Speaker 2>Compass to answer a question. And that we have I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take Jeremy first because it's real quick. Jeremy, Compass

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<v Speaker 2>Insurance Group, by the way, home of the insurance check up.

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<v Speaker 2>If you call and say, hey, we're going to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to compare you to like twenty five twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six companies, see if you're not paying too much too little,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you have what's the matter?

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<v Speaker 12>Tomo WiFi just came up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it did. It's so we are on YouTube now

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<v Speaker 2>or what? Okay, it is coming up though. That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to be connected to YouTube soon. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for telling me anyway. So anyway, so Jeremy, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for being here. By the way, I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>say something. You're doing insurance comparisons. As always, We've never

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<v Speaker 2>said ever that Compass will have the cheapest, lowest cost insurance. Ever.

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be about eighty five percent of the time,

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<v Speaker 2>you could probably beat the regular carriers about eighty five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that. I think I talked to Brian and

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<v Speaker 2>he's that it's more like seventy five percent now because

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<v Speaker 2>things are so competitive and so expensive that really insurance

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<v Speaker 2>is going out of sight. But it's still worth it's

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<v Speaker 2>still worth checking.

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, yeah, And a lot.

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<v Speaker 17>Of times it might not beat the rate, but we're

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<v Speaker 17>getting the replacement costs back on the roof where.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff like that. And also right, yeah, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to say that because I got a text today saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they couldn't beat it, they're not the cheapest,

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<v Speaker 2>and I say, well, I never said that. I said

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<v Speaker 2>it's always wise to compare, even if you find out,

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<v Speaker 2>because Jeremy, you'll tell you, hey, guys, you got a

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00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 2>great thing here, keep it going anyway. So having said that,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a question that I never even thought of before.

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<v Speaker 2>If somebody got involved in a moving scam with their

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<v Speaker 2>homeowner's insurance extend to stuff lost in a moving scam

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<v Speaker 2>or when they're moving, does homeowners stop when you move out?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how does that work if you still have

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<v Speaker 2>a policy.

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<v Speaker 17>What are you talking about for personal property?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yes, for your when you're moving.

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<v Speaker 17>Yes, yeah, your personal property can extend. So if you

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<v Speaker 17>kept the policy active, personal property could extend. Most companies

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<v Speaker 17>will limit it to ten percent off premise. So let's

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<v Speaker 17>say you're moving and you kept your old policy in force. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 17>there absolutely could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, so what about when it shows up at the

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<v Speaker 2>new place and stuff is damage, that's what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be considered off premises coverage.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, and the damage can get a little tricky depending

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<v Speaker 17>on because it needs to be a covered peril on

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<v Speaker 17>their policy.

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<v Speaker 2>What about dropping something?

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<v Speaker 17>It could be Yeah, I mean, it definitely could be covered.

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<v Speaker 17>The problem is how much is it worth. And you know,

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<v Speaker 17>a specific item might not be worth putting a claim in.

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<v Speaker 17>But if they were scammed, let's say someone took off

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<v Speaker 17>with their stuff, it was stolen. Yeah, most policies are

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<v Speaker 17>going to limit. So if they had one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 17>in personal property, you know it'd be ten thousand in

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<v Speaker 17>coverage off premise.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is some coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>There could be.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, most of the time they're going to have at

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<v Speaker 17>least ten percent, if not more.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have to tell your company you're moving if

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<v Speaker 2>my policy is expiring at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have to tell them a moving.

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<v Speaker 8>You do need to tell them you're moving.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, it doesn't force you to cancel the policy. But

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<v Speaker 17>for a homeowner's policy, there's there would be no reason

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<v Speaker 17>you would keep it. You know, if you were moving

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<v Speaker 17>into like renting a place, you just get a renters no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that. But if I'm moving, I'm in flux?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I keep it in force until I get to

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<v Speaker 2>my new place?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want to either have the old policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Enforce or the new payse all right?

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<v Speaker 17>Or a renter's policy if it's an extended move.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it's not renting, and if it's moving from

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<v Speaker 2>a home to a home, let's say moving from Denver

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<v Speaker 2>to Florida, is there something specifically I could get for

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<v Speaker 2>the move?

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<v Speaker 17>There really is anything we have. There might be some

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<v Speaker 17>sort of supplement out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, usually they're bad.

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<v Speaker 17>My insurance to do is to keep that policy in

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<v Speaker 17>force till they got to the new place, or if

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<v Speaker 17>they closed on the new house and that policy was

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<v Speaker 17>active before they moved, the new policy could also do

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<v Speaker 17>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. That's the Insurance Health Center or

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<v Speaker 2>Compass Insurance Group three h three nine thousand, nine nine six,

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<v Speaker 2>nine thousand. Now let's go back to Rhann and Rihann

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<v Speaker 2>and on this this supplier. Okay, here's what we need

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<v Speaker 2>to know. You you returned stuff to them, and they

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<v Speaker 2>gave you only three thousand dollars credit on a ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars excuse me, on a thirteen thousand dollars return.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they say to you? Do they even acknowledge the

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<v Speaker 2>items you return? That's or are they differing in value?

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<v Speaker 2>Like do they say yes, Rhann, and we show here

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<v Speaker 2>that you return this, this, this, this, this or not.

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<v Speaker 10>They know?

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<v Speaker 15>What they show is that they returned. They said they

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<v Speaker 15>returned the items. We said that there's a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 15>here that we you guys did not check in this

819
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 15>return to you, right, and then that manager quit and

820
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<v Speaker 15>all the only thing we can get them or their

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00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.639
<v Speaker 15>attorneys to say is we return the items.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, no, here's all the I mean, they refunded the money.

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<v Speaker 2>You return the items. They refunded the money.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm part of the items, but not all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap. Is there any receipt? Do you get a

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<v Speaker 2>receipt when you return stuff? I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how you approve it.

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<v Speaker 15>They never, they never, That's what we're up against.

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<v Speaker 2>Or have you looked this? Have you looked this up

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<v Speaker 2>to see if other people have the same complaint with

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<v Speaker 2>this supplier.

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<v Speaker 10>That's what I was coming to you.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't know if maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll find out BO. Why do you think BO? Having

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<v Speaker 2>been in the business dealing with a bunch of suppliers

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, what do you think I've had.

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<v Speaker 16>Good luck with electrical and mechanical suppliers for forty years.

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<v Speaker 12>I want to know who is the supplier you are

839
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<v Speaker 12>dealing with?

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<v Speaker 15>Ces in Littleton?

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<v Speaker 2>Cees in Littleton?

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<v Speaker 15>Is that Colorado Electric Supply, City Electric Supply?

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<v Speaker 16>Well, if you want, you have a contact name there

844
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<v Speaker 16>that you've been dealing.

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<v Speaker 15>With Robert Coe. But he doesn't work there anymore, and he.

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<v Speaker 5>Was the BO.

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<v Speaker 2>We should talk to him. And I'm not accusing them

848
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<v Speaker 2>of anything. Maybe they maybe that maybe that Robert Coe

849
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<v Speaker 2>was fishy, maybe he did something squirrely.

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<v Speaker 12>We'll make some calls.

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<v Speaker 5>Me.

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<v Speaker 15>My biggest question, the item sat there for two months

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<v Speaker 15>before you return them. How did they not accidentally go

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<v Speaker 15>into their inventory?

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<v Speaker 2>That what I'm saying, So let let I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>let BO look into this and we'll see what we

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<v Speaker 2>can find out. I'm we can't have anyone better. He's

858
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 2>been in the business and dealt with all these suppliers,

859
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:06.039
<v Speaker 2>so Ran and He'll be in touch with you. Hold

860
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 2>on and make sure we have your contact information. Three

861
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.599
<v Speaker 2>all three seven on three eight two five five Jar.

862
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:13.599
<v Speaker 2>What is your comment on what phone scam are you

863
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 2>talking about? Jr?

864
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.119
<v Speaker 19>Tom Just you just had the guy on where they

865
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:19.000
<v Speaker 19>stole his number.

866
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 2>It happens all the time now, yeah, yeah, yeah.

867
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.960
<v Speaker 5>Mobile check this out his phone number.

868
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:27.320
<v Speaker 2>His phone number was ported. Why would they want his

869
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 2>phone number?

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00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.039
<v Speaker 19>Let me let me tell you. Give me twenty seconds.

871
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:34.800
<v Speaker 19>So they send you a code. Uh, dial this number

872
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.079
<v Speaker 19>six one one. We've got a problem with your phone number.

873
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 19>Blah blah blah. They get the information, they get into

874
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.960
<v Speaker 19>your phone, They get the information. Now they got your number.

875
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 19>They've shut off your phone. Now they can get any

876
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 19>information they want. People that call you your credit cards

877
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 19>checking up on you. They send you the six digit code.

878
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.239
<v Speaker 19>Now they type in that code. Now they got information

879
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:56.239
<v Speaker 19>on your credit card.

880
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 17>Your kah.

881
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.199
<v Speaker 2>But that's if they have everything else. In addition to

882
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.679
<v Speaker 2>that saying, if they have your log in and you

883
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 2>do secondary verification. They can get that secondary code.

884
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 19>Absolutely, and they're they're they're shutting off your number, but

885
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.599
<v Speaker 19>they actually have total access to your number. Your mom

886
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 19>calls you, your bank calls you, your credit your whatever

887
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:22.119
<v Speaker 19>emails to you. Yeah, it's a new scam that they're doing,

888
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.599
<v Speaker 19>and it usually only happens to like the sub phones

889
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:30.159
<v Speaker 19>like Metro PCs. I have key Mobile and I actually

890
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 19>got one yesterday.

891
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:33.199
<v Speaker 2>And of course, what do you do.

892
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:35.320
<v Speaker 19>You don't log on, You just close it out, don't

893
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.679
<v Speaker 19>call these people back, because now they have your info

894
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 19>and they have control of your phone.

895
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.679
<v Speaker 2>So this guy do you think this guy wasn't even

896
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.920
<v Speaker 2>talking to Metro. Oh no, he went to the store. Nevermind.

897
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:49.880
<v Speaker 19>But but right right, he went into the store. But

898
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 19>there's nothing you can do it according to Metro numbers on.

899
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 2>But right now, right now that they have they don't

900
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:59.400
<v Speaker 2>have his phone, they have his number. What can they

901
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:00.360
<v Speaker 2>do to him right now?

902
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 19>Anything that comes in phone calls.

903
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't ever get anything that would expose

904
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:11.239
<v Speaker 2>me to anything. I mean, even if I did get

905
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:14.360
<v Speaker 2>a call from my doctor. I don't normally do that either.

906
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Actually I don't. I actually don't get calls. You have

907
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 2>to call them, and then you have to give verifying

908
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>information to people or you go online. I've never had

909
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>a call where since somebody would want sensitive information from me. Legitimately,

910
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>it happened.

911
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:32.440
<v Speaker 20>It happens.

912
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:36.239
<v Speaker 2>I just give me an idea, I mean, I'm not

913
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.719
<v Speaker 2>trying to disagree with you on purpose. Give me an

914
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>idea of why if someone had my cell phone number,

915
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.599
<v Speaker 2>my number, I can't think of one phone call they

916
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:50.320
<v Speaker 2>would get they would get, not make that they would

917
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.079
<v Speaker 2>get that would expose me.

918
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 19>I'm trying to explain to you right now. Capital One

919
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 19>gets a hold of David Smith, but they're really they're

920
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:03.920
<v Speaker 19>really TechEd your guy's name. Yes, could you enter your

921
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:04.639
<v Speaker 19>last four?

922
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.280
<v Speaker 2>They never do that. Capital One will never ever text

923
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 2>you saying enter this information.

924
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 5>They don't.

925
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 19>That's what I'm saying, Tom, it's a fraudulent thing that's happening.

926
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.519
<v Speaker 2>So you're saying that he'll believe it because it's fishing.

927
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:21.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just a phishing scheme.

928
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.559
<v Speaker 19>It's fishing, absolutely, and it only takes what one in

929
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:26.000
<v Speaker 19>one hundred, one in a thousand.

930
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 2>But still, Jr. You really didn't answer the question. Here's

931
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 2>what I'm asking. Okay, Mark has my cell phone? Number

932
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:37.719
<v Speaker 2>right now, and it's poured it to his phone. Capital

933
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.599
<v Speaker 2>one is not going to text me.

934
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.079
<v Speaker 14>Oh man, I could do no, no, no, Listen in

935
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 14>that scenario, Well, I have control of your phone number, right,

936
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:51.000
<v Speaker 14>I can do all kinds ofs like what Mark, Well,

937
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.920
<v Speaker 14>I mean with banks like our bank ANB sometimes he'll

938
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.360
<v Speaker 14>send us a text his secondary So if I tried

939
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.119
<v Speaker 14>to get into your account and they want to authorize

940
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:02.400
<v Speaker 14>it by sending a text.

941
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.400
<v Speaker 2>But Mark, you're assuming though that the person you happen

942
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 2>to know all my stuff. But you're assuming that someone

943
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 2>who would have gotten my number knows where I bank,

944
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>and they at least know user names and all of that.

945
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.719
<v Speaker 14>Right, Well, yeah, you'd have to know some information. But

946
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 14>my point is if you have control over someone's phone

947
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 14>a lot of secondary authentications. That's just a text message

948
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.039
<v Speaker 14>with a force that's digit code.

949
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>That's true, absolutely, and you would receive all those that's right.

950
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 2>If you or if you want to change a password.

951
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:40.079
<v Speaker 2>As Shannon said, that's right, But normally you need more

952
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 2>than just the phone number port it to your phone

953
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.639
<v Speaker 2>to get their texts and stuff. You need somehow other

954
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 2>information about that person, right JR. I mean that's what

955
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.639
<v Speaker 2>I would say, so I get what you're saying. Mark,

956
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.599
<v Speaker 2>You're right. We had some cases here on the show

957
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 2>where someone's phone was hacked.

958
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:00.639
<v Speaker 14>Well, like if I had your phone and I could

959
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:02.960
<v Speaker 14>get into your phone, then I can go into your email,

960
00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:03.920
<v Speaker 14>see where you bank.

961
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.280
<v Speaker 2>That's true. But they didn't take his phone. They just

962
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:09.079
<v Speaker 2>took his number. Yeah.

963
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.880
<v Speaker 14>Well that's a little different because they just have control.

964
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:15.960
<v Speaker 2>But they will receive any texts, that's right. They will.

965
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:18.920
<v Speaker 2>But I can't think of any text that would think

966
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 2>of one right here.

967
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:23.559
<v Speaker 14>Let's say he is someone else has his phone number,

968
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.800
<v Speaker 14>and he goes to his online banking and he no

969
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 14>longer gets it because he doesn't have access to that

970
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.559
<v Speaker 14>phone number. When he tries to get it, it's going

971
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:32.760
<v Speaker 14>to send it to his phone.

972
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then they would still have to have the

973
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.960
<v Speaker 2>username and password. Yeah, they'd have to have other stuff

974
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:41.199
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<v Speaker 2>three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Martino here three oh three seven one three talks

985
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<v Speaker 2>seven one three eight two five to five. All right,

986
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:29.159
<v Speaker 2>things to comcasts doing a service call and then Mark

987
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.719
<v Speaker 2>getting on as on the YouTube thing.

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00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:32.079
<v Speaker 5>We're on.

989
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:32.880
<v Speaker 2>We're back on.

990
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.000
<v Speaker 9>So we're feeding commercials during the break my fault.

991
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<v Speaker 2>Uh oh, you are feeding commercials. From now on, people

992
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:41.280
<v Speaker 2>will talk, so you're backup. We're back up. Thank you,

993
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:44.320
<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you. Three oh three seven one three

994
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:49.519
<v Speaker 2>eight two five five. Uh Kaschina get Ranynan's Rhiannon's uh

995
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:54.519
<v Speaker 2>contact info for Bo. He's going to take that. And

996
00:49:54.559 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>then we have U Bob with his con crete driveway

997
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:06.480
<v Speaker 2>issue and affordable Let's see who's first, Bob. I think

998
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Bob was first. I'm going to go back to Eric. Eric,

999
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:12.039
<v Speaker 2>you have to understand these callers had problems. We had

1000
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 2>to call. We have to follow up. I promise you

1001
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 2>you're on my radar here man, Just Bob, what's going

1002
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:21.039
<v Speaker 2>on with your driveway? Did you call in yesterday? Mark

1003
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:25.360
<v Speaker 2>was doing the show yesterday. Oh it's me, hold on,

1004
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:27.400
<v Speaker 2>it's me, gotcha. Okay, there you are, Bro?

1005
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 21>Sorry so well, but no Mark as me to go

1006
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 21>look at a driveway. Well, the guy sent me a picture.

1007
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. You're Bob from l em got it? Okay, Mark,

1008
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:38.760
<v Speaker 2>what was the issue? Do you remember? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 14>It was pretty simple. Older guy in his eighties had

1010
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 14>a guy come out. They were going to powerwash his

1011
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.960
<v Speaker 14>driveway and then put some kind of coding on it

1012
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 14>and make it look good. In a couple of days

1013
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.000
<v Speaker 14>after it was done, it started crumbling. Okay, so what

1014
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 14>did you find, Bob?

1015
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 21>Well, I didn't even have to go out. He send

1016
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<v Speaker 21>me a picture. It should have never been done, is

1017
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 21>all I did was put a painting thing over they

1018
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:03.440
<v Speaker 21>they ripped him off, was what they did from the

1019
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:04.760
<v Speaker 21>whole driveway and needs replaced.

1020
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:05.840
<v Speaker 5>It's not bad.

1021
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 21>It should have never been there.

1022
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:09.880
<v Speaker 2>What did they charge him for this so called coding

1023
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:10.559
<v Speaker 2>or sealer?

1024
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.039
<v Speaker 21>Well, I'm not sure because I mentioned something like fifteen

1025
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:15.559
<v Speaker 21>or two agoes a. It was way more than that.

1026
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 21>But they ripped him off his driveway needed to replace

1027
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:19.239
<v Speaker 21>what was.

1028
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>The name mark? Do you remember the name of the company.

1029
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I'd have to look. No, I don't think I do, man,

1030
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I think.

1031
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 21>I know they had They had a bunch of numbers,

1032
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:29.440
<v Speaker 21>but they're all just connected.

1033
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, so, Bob, how big of a driveway is it?

1034
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.400
<v Speaker 2>It was Anderson. I just looked it up.

1035
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.599
<v Speaker 14>It was Anderston Construction and sure enough, any phone number

1036
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:45.599
<v Speaker 14>we have for him is gone.

1037
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, how long ago did he have it done? Bob?

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00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you know.

1039
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.679
<v Speaker 21>I probably had a recently done. I don't remember. Pretty

1040
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 21>pretty realm.

1041
00:51:57.239 --> 00:51:59.400
<v Speaker 2>And it's a it was a coding is that what

1042
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.400
<v Speaker 2>they sold as? They power washed it. Then they put

1043
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:03.199
<v Speaker 2>a coating on it.

1044
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:07.280
<v Speaker 21>Yeah, they And they didn't even put an overlap mark

1045
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:09.840
<v Speaker 21>or tom or whichever one. Yeah, they put a paint

1046
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.599
<v Speaker 21>on it. It's the third one, part one I've seen

1047
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:12.920
<v Speaker 21>now where they pay it and try to tell you

1048
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 21>if it's a concrete thing, and the gentleman says, you

1049
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:19.559
<v Speaker 21>tried doing this other patch. Well that pats isn't even failing.

1050
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.360
<v Speaker 21>But it was a true patch. But his library is

1051
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.039
<v Speaker 21>so bad you could there's no way to fix it.

1052
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean and we can't find this and construction probably

1053
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:30.480
<v Speaker 2>now according to.

1054
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<v Speaker 14>Mark, it's a total ripoff man. They might as well

1055
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 14>grab the can of spray paint. That's Bob. I appreciate.

1056
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:39.280
<v Speaker 14>I appreciate you.

1057
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<v Speaker 2>Going and look at jobs for us, though there's a

1058
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:44.519
<v Speaker 2>lot of ripoff man. Do you notice that Bob in

1059
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the concrete business people?

1060
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:49.039
<v Speaker 21>Oh, Ton Ton, and you and I have had this conversation,

1061
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:51.559
<v Speaker 21>you know people. Matter of fact, I was going to

1062
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<v Speaker 21>tell you I just ran into another job to stay

1063
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:56.679
<v Speaker 21>the concrete man did and I didn't go talk to

1064
00:52:56.719 --> 00:52:58.639
<v Speaker 21>the people. Well, I was by the the other day

1065
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 21>and it's already starting to play, and so I'm sure

1066
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:02.559
<v Speaker 21>you'll be get a call from maybe from.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Sam. The concrete Man is a franchise,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a man, and there is no Sam or locally.

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<v Speaker 2>But the guy that used to have the franchise here

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00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:16.519
<v Speaker 2>years ago was on our list and he did a

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00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:20.360
<v Speaker 2>pretty good job. But this new guy we're getting complaints about.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not on the list. He's not on referral list

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<v Speaker 2>dot com and he doesn't deserve to be, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Bob l. E. M. Landscaping, and he he is

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00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:34.199
<v Speaker 2>on referral list dot com. So Dan McKenzie is with

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<v Speaker 2>us from McKenzie Law Co Plans dot co for trust

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<v Speaker 2>and probate and and wills and all those matters. Now, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>you had mentioned there's nothing wrong with the beneficiary's deed.

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00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:49.920
<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you're going to leave your home

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00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.280
<v Speaker 2>to someone, to a person, because what happens is that death,

1081
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.320
<v Speaker 2>it goes, it transfers outside of probate. Is that right,

1082
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:01.559
<v Speaker 2>it's out, it's outside of probate, right. Okay, So if

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00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:05.199
<v Speaker 2>there are leans against the estate, not against the house,

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00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:08.800
<v Speaker 2>but bills, can they force someone who gets that home

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00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:12.679
<v Speaker 2>through a beneficiaries deed? Can they force someone to tap

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00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.039
<v Speaker 2>that equity to pay those bills or to sell the house?

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<v Speaker 13>No?

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<v Speaker 18>I mean the credit claims against the estate to go

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<v Speaker 18>through the probate process.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so a beneficiaries deed does have its benefits.

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<v Speaker 18>Correct, I mean, now a mortgage or a lean security

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00:54:26.519 --> 00:54:28.920
<v Speaker 18>against the house, the course has to be repaid, right right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 18>Other debts have.

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<v Speaker 2>Mechanics lean on the house maybe right right now? Then

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00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:36.639
<v Speaker 2>this question was texted to me, and again I'm reminding

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00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 2>you you can text me at my number and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a seven four seven, And this one was saying if

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00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.280
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned it can get complicated if you do a

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00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:52.920
<v Speaker 2>beneficiaries deed to two or more people, because those people

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<v Speaker 2>then may argue amongst themselves who owns water, what's responsibility is?

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00:54:57.719 --> 00:54:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Or if they want to sell it, do they want

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00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:00.559
<v Speaker 2>to keep it? Do they want to to rent it?

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00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:04.800
<v Speaker 2>What if you had an LLC, you left it to

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00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:08.480
<v Speaker 2>in a beneficiaries deed and the members of the LLC

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00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:11.079
<v Speaker 2>had an operating agreement? Is that far fetched?

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<v Speaker 18>Trus That can be a great We do that sometimes

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00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:15.960
<v Speaker 18>with like vacation properties that people want to keep in

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00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:18.719
<v Speaker 18>the house or in the family family. Yeah, because the

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00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:20.840
<v Speaker 18>same problem when kid lives in Florida, It's like I

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00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.880
<v Speaker 18>don't go skiing. You're in Colrado. You go skiing all

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<v Speaker 18>the time. Why am I paying for the HWOA two?

1112
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:26.280
<v Speaker 18>Is you pay them right? So you can have an

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<v Speaker 18>operating agreement.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of shows that if you say to your

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<v Speaker 2>kids or your to your nephews or nieces, here's the LLC.

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<v Speaker 2>In order to get your share, you have to agree

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<v Speaker 2>to this operating agreement. If they agree to it, then

1118
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:42.480
<v Speaker 2>then they all have that percentage of vote. So if

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<v Speaker 2>they want to change it in the future. They can,

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00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:46.599
<v Speaker 2>but at least they have something to go off of,

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00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.159
<v Speaker 2>they have something to work around. Yep, that's a cool idea.

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00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Can that also be done with a trust? Can you

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<v Speaker 2>leave it to a trust through a beneficiary deed? You can?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's probably no reason too if you have

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00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:00.880
<v Speaker 2>a trust right, because then it goes to the trust any.

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<v Speaker 18>Correct, And the issue there is just like you know,

1127
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:05.519
<v Speaker 18>a trust has a trustee, the operating agreement. The reason

1128
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:07.760
<v Speaker 18>it's so great, it's just because you can have the shares,

1129
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.159
<v Speaker 18>you can have votes among people, like you can buy

1130
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<v Speaker 18>people out. A trust obviously has a lot of benefits,

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00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:15.800
<v Speaker 18>but it's like you've got one person in charge and

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<v Speaker 18>it's not real clear how they deal with conflicting.

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<v Speaker 2>nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your

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<v Speaker 2>troubleshooter three o three seven to one three talk seven

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<v Speaker 2>one three eight two five five. Marcus, what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>with you? Marcus? Marcus, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh so it's Marcos. But yeah, good.

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<v Speaker 2>Afternoon, Marcos.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to see I'm trying to vict me

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00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:07.760
<v Speaker 3>a guy from one of my rentals up in Greedy, Yeah,

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00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.320
<v Speaker 3>and he's behind. I gave him a notice to quit

1162
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:16.760
<v Speaker 3>on five three, twenty four and with him promised me,

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00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:19.920
<v Speaker 3>promising me he's going to catch up with the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, listen, is he on a year's lease or

1165
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:23.519
<v Speaker 2>is it just month to month?

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<v Speaker 3>It's on a month's month.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, it's going to be easy for you to a victim.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just go through the eviction. What what? What is?

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00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:31.840
<v Speaker 2>What am I not hearing?

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<v Speaker 21>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I just in other words, if he's not paying Marcos,

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00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:41.320
<v Speaker 2>if he's not paying, it's a very easy process. Now

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00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I would recommend you get an attorney to do it,

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00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.079
<v Speaker 2>just so you you dot all the i's and cross

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<v Speaker 2>all the t's and you can add that to the bill.

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<v Speaker 2>But what were you hoping we would tell you the

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<v Speaker 2>step by step process. We could, but it's not going

1178
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:56.760
<v Speaker 2>to do you any good if you don't know what

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00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:58.599
<v Speaker 2>you're doing. You got to get a notice. You got

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00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:01.360
<v Speaker 2>to give him notice depends on how long he's there

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00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:03.840
<v Speaker 2>is how much advance notice you have to give him,

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00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and then you have to wait for that to expire.

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00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Then you have to go to a hearing. You have

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00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:10.320
<v Speaker 2>to get an order for eviction and then you have

1185
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:12.559
<v Speaker 2>to serve that on him, and then if he doesn't leave,

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00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:16.480
<v Speaker 2>then you go get a rid of execution to move

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00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:22.000
<v Speaker 2>his stuff. It's it's it's their several steps. Okay, Now

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00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.519
<v Speaker 2>have you ever you've you've never had to evict anyone before.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this is the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>So how long have you been a landlord?

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<v Speaker 3>About ten years?

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<v Speaker 2>God, you're lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten years on two. Yeah, he's he's been there for

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<v Speaker 3>seven years. He just got back behind in October. And

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00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.239
<v Speaker 3>I've been giving him a chance ever since October of

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<v Speaker 3>last year.

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<v Speaker 2>So would he leave voluntarily? Do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what I'm kind of hoping. I talked to

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<v Speaker 3>him Sunday and I told him I'll give him until

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<v Speaker 3>this coming Sunday to get out or come up with

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00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:02.480
<v Speaker 3>all the money and we'll redo another leash or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 9>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I mean, for the most part, he's been a

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01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:09.039
<v Speaker 3>good tenant except for since October.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, you may want to just what you do

1207
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:18.280
<v Speaker 2>is have him pay current rent and then make payments

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01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:21.199
<v Speaker 2>towards the pass rent unless you just want to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of him, and to get rid of him is

1210
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<v Speaker 2>going to cost you a minimum with an attorney of

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01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:29.320
<v Speaker 2>about five hundred bucks, maybe a thousand. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand unless he tries to go to court and

1213
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<v Speaker 2>fight this. But you don't think he'll do that, do you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. But this past Sunday, when I

1215
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:43.320
<v Speaker 3>went to go put a key box on there so

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01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I could start showing the house to other people, he

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<v Speaker 3>really got offended and started yelling and cussing and started telling.

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<v Speaker 2>Me that listen, you better not let that go on

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01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 2>too long. Okay, I mean, seriously, I wish you the best, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's terrible when these things happen. It

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<v Speaker 2>really is. It's the one downside, you know, to being

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<v Speaker 2>a landlord is the eviction when you have to get

1223
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<v Speaker 2>rid of people. Now, this, uh, Denet and this roof damage?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? Net? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 8>Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Denet?

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<v Speaker 19>Hey, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening?

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<v Speaker 13>I'm doing okay, I'm not too sure my next steps

1230
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:31.039
<v Speaker 13>and process I am. I've been having a few roofers

1231
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.599
<v Speaker 13>come out to do some estimates on my roof because

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01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:36.159
<v Speaker 13>I found the claim was denied, which is fine.

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01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I got why wait wait, why was it denied. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you have hail damage?

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<v Speaker 13>I did not have significant and that hail damage a

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01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:44.239
<v Speaker 13>year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was denied totally. Yes, Okay, so then what.

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01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:53.920
<v Speaker 13>So then here we are, you know, a year later,

1239
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:56.679
<v Speaker 13>next summer, and I'm doing some estimates to figure out

1240
01:01:56.679 --> 01:01:59.559
<v Speaker 13>what's going to cost me out of pocket and had

1241
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 13>a total of seven different roofers come out.

1242
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:06.119
<v Speaker 2>How many seven? Seven? Wow?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 13>As of Monday, I had two roofers come out, do

1245
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 13>an inspection, submit photos, no hail damage, no wind damage,

1246
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:20.519
<v Speaker 13>no missing shingles. As of yesterday, I had affordable house

1247
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:25.280
<v Speaker 13>or affordable roofing Colorado come out and I have several

1248
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:27.760
<v Speaker 13>missing shingles and now I have wind damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, where are you located.

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01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:32.039
<v Speaker 13>In Loveland, Colorado?

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01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you just get a good roofer and call

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01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:35.639
<v Speaker 2>it a day.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, and I believe I have one, but I had

1254
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<v Speaker 13>to get a few quotes.

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<v Speaker 2>And who I would say, Why don't you call Excel Roofing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they go to Loveland. I actually don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we do. Yeah, thanks Mark, And they're the

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01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:57.360
<v Speaker 2>best man. They'll give you an estimate and never you'll

1259
01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:01.159
<v Speaker 2>never you can take it to the they'll tell you

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01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.400
<v Speaker 2>if it's damage, how it's damaged, how much it's going

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01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to cost, exactly what it's going to cost. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to take a penny from you, not a

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01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:10.920
<v Speaker 2>penny until it's done. Think about that.

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<v Speaker 13>No, that's totally good. I'm just I'm kind of sucking

1265
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:16.519
<v Speaker 13>to rock in a herdspot now because I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 13>Affordable Roofing took shingles off my roof.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait a minute, Wait a minute. If you're going

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01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:24.159
<v Speaker 2>to have your roof replaced, why do you care? First

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<v Speaker 2>of all, and I'm not sure they did. But even

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01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:29.960
<v Speaker 2>if they did, I mean, how many roofing shingles are missing?

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<v Speaker 2>For God's sakes, It can't be that many that they

1272
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:32.840
<v Speaker 2>pulled off.

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<v Speaker 13>So far in the pictures, I see eight.

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01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Well that's not a big deal. What do you have

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<v Speaker 2>an asphalt roof? Yes, why would they There would be

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<v Speaker 2>no reason for them to pull eight shingles off.

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<v Speaker 14>Didn't you guys have a pretty good storm the other day?

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<v Speaker 13>We did, But the storm was last night, just after

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<v Speaker 13>he had got done with his estimate. So he came

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<v Speaker 13>yesterday at about eleven thirty and was up there for

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<v Speaker 13>less than five minutes, came down, so I had hail damage.

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<v Speaker 5>We had.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the big deal is what I'm asking you, Whether

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<v Speaker 2>if you get a good roofer, if you have hail damage,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll help you, they'll give you the evidence. If you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have hail damage, but you still have an old roof.

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<v Speaker 2>How old is your roof.

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<v Speaker 13>As at least twenty years old?

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<v Speaker 2>So you want to replace it no matter what, whether

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<v Speaker 2>you have hail damage or not. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, of course, But I don't want somebody going up

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<v Speaker 13>there and taking shingles off.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't either. I don't either, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>wrong if they did it. But I can see no

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01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:33.880
<v Speaker 2>motivation for them to do that at all. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>even worth their time to take eight shingles off. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying is that's not neither here nor there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to do any damage right now. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get your roof replaced, get it replaced,

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<v Speaker 2>those eight shingles will be replaced. It didn't cost you

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<v Speaker 2>extra because they removed eight shingles. What I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 2>I understand why you're upset, but there's no reason to

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01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:57.079
<v Speaker 2>chase after them for eight shingles. I mean, really, there's

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01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:00.639
<v Speaker 2>not just don't hire these idiots and move on. And

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<v Speaker 2>I really, Dan, I mean it's really easy. Call Excel Roofing.

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01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm serious. Now you can call someone else and then

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01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:12.280
<v Speaker 2>you'll be calling us about the problem, because if any

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01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:15.920
<v Speaker 2>other roofer wants a dime from you before they start,

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01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:19.480
<v Speaker 2>that's an automatic no for me. Okay, So if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to call Excel, it's easy. Excel roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't collect assent until you're content. They will look

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01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:30.039
<v Speaker 2>and give you an honest opinion and a complete contract

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<v Speaker 2>in writing. Three oh three seven sixty one sixty four hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the easy solution. And I get that you're upset

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01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:40.880
<v Speaker 2>with that other company. I get it, and I would

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01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:43.719
<v Speaker 2>be two. But if you're replacing it, it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to make a big difference. Three oh three seven sixty

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<v Speaker 2>one sixty four hundred for excel roofing dot com. Go

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<v Speaker 2>with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for

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<v Speaker 5>Help.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 2>durand the real estate man dot Com to list your

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<v Speaker 2>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen twenty two. Guy Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three O

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<v Speaker 2>three seven one three talk three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three eight two five five. All right, now we have Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, I already try. I already told Alex

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<v Speaker 2>what to do, didn't I take Alex about? No? No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's as this is somebody else. Sorry, Alex. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>hear the other call about evicting?

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, sir, yes, I unfortunately had to hop off the

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<v Speaker 9>radio in the car before I chanced to hear what

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<v Speaker 9>was going.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, anyway, somebody else asked about evicting, and is that

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01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:05.480
<v Speaker 2>what you want to do? You want to evict someone?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I'm actually currently in the eviction process. My property

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01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:14.320
<v Speaker 9>management company here in the Colorado Springs actually just posted

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<v Speaker 9>the fourteenth day notice today on the door for the

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01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:20.119
<v Speaker 9>notice of non compliance for all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you're having your property managers do it through

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01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:24.599
<v Speaker 2>an attorney.

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01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:29.880
<v Speaker 9>Probably they handled it themselves. They went down themselves and

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01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:32.159
<v Speaker 9>posted the notice on the door. They put the original

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01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:34.519
<v Speaker 9>notice down on the first of the month, and then

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<v Speaker 9>fourteenth days later today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't, you don't really need you don't really

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01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:42.840
<v Speaker 2>need an attorney if you know how to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is your question?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 21>Absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 9>My only concern is that so he the tenant, does

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01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:55.280
<v Speaker 9>have a trust that was his income verification to be

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01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:58.000
<v Speaker 9>able to you know, qualify for my home, and he

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01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.079
<v Speaker 9>has been having them pay the and directly about a

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01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:04.400
<v Speaker 9>week before the first every month, which has been great. However,

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<v Speaker 9>after the extensive damage she's caused the home, it's going

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<v Speaker 9>to be a few tens of thousands of dollars unfortunately

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<v Speaker 9>that he was able to accomplish within three months.

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<v Speaker 2>Of living there.

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<v Speaker 9>My concern, my concern is when the eviction, because they're

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<v Speaker 9>going to do the inspection today and he's definitely not

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<v Speaker 9>within compliance of everything that needed to be done, and

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<v Speaker 9>so they'll start the eviction process.

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<v Speaker 5>With that being said, he's not going.

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<v Speaker 9>To be able to pay for these things out of

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01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:33.039
<v Speaker 9>pocket and become compliance. So they're going to start.

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<v Speaker 8>The eviction process with.

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<v Speaker 9>The level of money that he's going to need to

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<v Speaker 9>spend to repair the property.

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<v Speaker 5>My question is you know how that will.

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<v Speaker 9>Work as far as if they're you know, being sticklers

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01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:48.880
<v Speaker 9>and saying they don't want to pay it and go

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<v Speaker 9>on to.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on and we'll go through that. Since it involves

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01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:54.079
<v Speaker 2>a trust, we'll ask Dan McKenzie as well. Hang on,

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<v Speaker 2>go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. You don't pay a cent till you're content.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave time for an insurance check up free no obligation

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<v Speaker 2>comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at

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<v Speaker 2>dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three

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<v Speaker 2>seven seven one help. You'll think you're his only customer

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<v Speaker 2>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

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<v Speaker 2>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 2>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two yea.

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<v Speaker 1>Ripped of news need advice?

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<v Speaker 5>Who you don't have?

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<v Speaker 2>Six is the Troubleshooter Show Now Tom Martino, Hey Tom Martino,

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<v Speaker 2>five four. Now let's talk about your problems, questions and

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01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:27.840
<v Speaker 2>complaints again. Alex is trying to evict someone and it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to know can he hold the trust available?

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<v Speaker 2>So we have Dan McKenzie with us for McKenzie Law,

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<v Speaker 2>and I asked, I asked him off the air Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Hey, Alex says the rent was being paid

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<v Speaker 2>by a trust and now he's got a lot of

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01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.359
<v Speaker 2>damages and he knows the guy has no money, so

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01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:51.000
<v Speaker 2>can he go after the trust for the damages? And

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<v Speaker 2>Dan asked the first question, did the trust sign the

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<v Speaker 2>lease or did Alex signed? Or excuse me, did the

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<v Speaker 2>tenant sign it individually?

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<v Speaker 9>That's a great question. I will double check, but I

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<v Speaker 9>believe it was the tenant individually the trust. Just from

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01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:09.399
<v Speaker 9>when I talked to the leasing agency a couple of

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<v Speaker 9>days ago before today's inspection. They told me that the

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<v Speaker 9>when they pulled up the payment history, it appears as

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<v Speaker 9>though the trust makes the payments directly about a week

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01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:22.800
<v Speaker 9>before the first of each month. So that's all I

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01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:25.760
<v Speaker 9>know about their involvement. And as far as contact information,

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<v Speaker 9>they just have the trust email relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>What is his relationship to the trust? I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>may be a trustee, what what do you know what

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<v Speaker 2>his relationship.

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<v Speaker 9>Is the Only thing that was really shared with me

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<v Speaker 9>is him being some form of a beneficiary to the trust.

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<v Speaker 9>He's an implant from Las Vegas. They did his typical

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<v Speaker 9>you know, background checks all I guess stuff, said that

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<v Speaker 9>his trust had more than enough money to cover you know,

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<v Speaker 9>deposits and rent, so he's qualified.

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<v Speaker 2>He moved to Vegas as.

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<v Speaker 9>A single person out here into my property. He's been

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<v Speaker 9>there for about three months and he's on a year

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01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:02.920
<v Speaker 9>long lease and rent's been coming in on time. But

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<v Speaker 9>with the neighbors calling telling me they were concerned about

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01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:08.159
<v Speaker 9>dogs locked outside in ninety degree heat for a week

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<v Speaker 9>with no food or water, and that he had just

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<v Speaker 9>disappeared about you could go, oh wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, wait, is he gone? Right now? Is he gone?

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01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:17.399
<v Speaker 5>So he just got back.

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<v Speaker 9>I went by the property. He had been gone for

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01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:22.159
<v Speaker 9>about a week and a half. My leasing agency called

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01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:24.760
<v Speaker 9>him and said, hey, your dogs are dying in the yard.

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<v Speaker 9>You need to let us get access to his property

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01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:29.039
<v Speaker 9>to help these dogs. We're going to call animal services.

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<v Speaker 9>He came up with some long story.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you help the dogs? Did you help them? Yees?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>So he did change the locks to the door so

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01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:40.079
<v Speaker 9>I couldn't get in. Luckily, he gave us the code

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01:12:40.119 --> 01:12:41.760
<v Speaker 9>to the locks he put on, which again was is

1452
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.920
<v Speaker 9>breaching the contract because he also boarded up all the gates.

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01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:47.439
<v Speaker 9>So I did get into the property with his permission,

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01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:50.800
<v Speaker 9>got the dogs, fed them, gave them water, let them inside,

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01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:53.319
<v Speaker 9>took care of them. And then we had a animal

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<v Speaker 9>service post and notice on his door because he says

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<v Speaker 9>he's trapped in Vegas over the last week and he

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<v Speaker 9>doesn't know when he'll get home. Post of notice saying

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<v Speaker 9>if you don't get the dogs in twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 9>we will come retrieve them. I do believe they retrieve

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<v Speaker 9>the animals. However, today is the fourteenth day with them.

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<v Speaker 2>How much damage are we talking about. You'll get the eviction,

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<v Speaker 2>no problem, but I don't know about the damagers. How

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<v Speaker 2>much damage we talked.

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<v Speaker 9>About, well, roughly probably around fifteen twenty thousand the garage

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<v Speaker 9>so is beyond repair the laj McKenzie beyond repair Kinsey law.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think can because they were paying the rent,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't kind of make them responsible for damages? Doesn't?

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<v Speaker 2>The trust? Probably not?

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<v Speaker 18>The trust probably, I mean it sounds like the trust

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<v Speaker 18>is set up for him by someone else that probably

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<v Speaker 18>contains something saying don't pay his creditors with it. So

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<v Speaker 18>he's certainly threatened it. I mean, you know, he's threatening

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<v Speaker 18>a lawsuit and see what happens. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 18>you've seen that trust agreement. Probably not, but that is

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<v Speaker 18>going to be a big determinant of you what's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think this guy even cares?

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<v Speaker 9>I guess that was just that was just My biggest

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<v Speaker 9>fear is just the amount of repairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Does this guy? Does this guy have mental problems, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or physical problems, Not that we're.

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<v Speaker 9>Aware of walking into the house though. I the leasing

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01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:10.880
<v Speaker 9>agency has been doing this for about twenty years. They

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01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:13.279
<v Speaker 9>I sent them the pictures and videos. Nobody's ever seen

1485
01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:16.359
<v Speaker 9>a property destroyed like this, especially give me.

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01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:18.439
<v Speaker 2>An idea of destroyed. Give me an idea. I mean,

1487
01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:20.840
<v Speaker 2>let me think I have water in the sun. Let

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01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:22.239
<v Speaker 2>me what do you mean by destroyed?

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01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:24.319
<v Speaker 8>Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:25.119
<v Speaker 17>No.

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<v Speaker 9>When you walk up to the front of the property,

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01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:28.920
<v Speaker 9>you know, small stuff. You notice aro off the bat

1493
01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:31.560
<v Speaker 9>from my ten foot weeds overgrowing over the whole front

1494
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:34.199
<v Speaker 9>of the property. And it's kind of like, okay, wow,

1495
01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:35.520
<v Speaker 9>that's not talked about.

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01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:37.479
<v Speaker 2>You said fifteen or twenty grand I don't want to

1497
01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:39.520
<v Speaker 2>talk about landscaping, talk about something else.

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01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:43.720
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, inside the house, yeah, absolutely, So the real damage

1499
01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:46.399
<v Speaker 9>is you know, outside of you know, the dog pee

1500
01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:48.800
<v Speaker 9>and poop festering and the brand new carpet and.

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01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's that's inside. Dog pee and poop inside. Okay.

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01:14:53.079 --> 01:14:56.079
<v Speaker 9>So the big expense is the big expenses if we

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01:14:56.159 --> 01:14:59.319
<v Speaker 9>just avoid all the petty stuff, would be the elevated deck,

1504
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:02.000
<v Speaker 9>which I had an estimate done on it, a few

1505
01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.159
<v Speaker 9>of them done recently to replaced the deck before anybody

1506
01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:06.000
<v Speaker 9>moved in, because I just wanted to do a new one,

1507
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:09.520
<v Speaker 9>nothing fancy, just to basically rebuild it. And it's roughly

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01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:11.600
<v Speaker 9>fourteen to fifteen thousand to the new deck.

1509
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And there's going to be an argument as to whether

1510
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:17.199
<v Speaker 2>you need a new deck. I mean the posts annoying it.

1511
01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:19.720
<v Speaker 2>But what I'm getting at is that this is not

1512
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:22.600
<v Speaker 2>a candy store. Let's just say the trust was responsible.

1513
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:25.560
<v Speaker 2>You still have to mitigate. You still have to really

1514
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:28.600
<v Speaker 2>go for the loss, and not just because. And if

1515
01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:30.560
<v Speaker 2>you say, well, I may as well just replace the

1516
01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:32.760
<v Speaker 2>whole deck, well that's up to you. But that doesn't

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01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:34.560
<v Speaker 2>necessarily mean this guy's got to pay.

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01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:36.399
<v Speaker 5>They're right exactly.

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01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:39.479
<v Speaker 9>No, I agree, it's there's just been some damages done

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01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:42.720
<v Speaker 9>to the deck that are causing structural issues. And then

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01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:45.119
<v Speaker 9>the garage door. I did have a garage door company

1522
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:48.880
<v Speaker 9>come out and look at it, and the size of

1523
01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:51.640
<v Speaker 9>the dents and the actual like I don't remember the

1524
01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:54.520
<v Speaker 9>terminology for it, but there's things like ripped out of

1525
01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:57.039
<v Speaker 9>the door on the paneling and they're dented so bad,

1526
01:15:57.079 --> 01:15:59.000
<v Speaker 9>and it's from nineteen ninety.

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01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:01.439
<v Speaker 2>How long is he he've been there that? How long

1528
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:02.079
<v Speaker 2>has he been there?

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01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:04.359
<v Speaker 9>Three months? Three April?

1530
01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, wait a minute, you've only had this

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01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:07.680
<v Speaker 2>guy there three months.

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01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:12.800
<v Speaker 9>Yes, it's unbelievable, like that's what I'm saying. It's just unreal.

1533
01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:16.760
<v Speaker 9>I couldn't believe it. And he's still got, you know,

1534
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:19.960
<v Speaker 9>another nine months left on the lease. Outside of the

1535
01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:22.560
<v Speaker 9>fact that today, when he fails to meet compliance, still

1536
01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:25.359
<v Speaker 9>more than likely obviously we'll start the eviction process. But

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01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:28.039
<v Speaker 9>my biggest fear is just you know, okay, he either

1538
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:31.000
<v Speaker 9>accepts all the charges we give him, he forfeits security

1539
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:33.000
<v Speaker 9>deposit and he's an honest guy, and he comes out

1540
01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:34.119
<v Speaker 9>of pocket for the things that he.

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01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:36.640
<v Speaker 5>Security won't cover.

1542
01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:39.319
<v Speaker 2>He probably doesn't have the money, bro, he doesn't have

1543
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:41.600
<v Speaker 2>the money. Do you think he has fifteen or twenty.

1544
01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:45.079
<v Speaker 9>Gre in what that's my that's my fears. Where does

1545
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:45.880
<v Speaker 9>it go from there?

1546
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:48.399
<v Speaker 2>I guess nothing? I mean, you look at that they're

1547
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:50.720
<v Speaker 2>saying he can't take blood from a turnip or blood

1548
01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:55.640
<v Speaker 2>from a stone. Truly, you know you can't, but you

1549
01:16:55.640 --> 01:16:58.920
<v Speaker 2>know the world. The most you can do is make

1550
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:02.800
<v Speaker 2>a claim against him, and maybe he goes to the trust,

1551
01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:07.119
<v Speaker 2>especially if he can't get if he can't rent anymore

1552
01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:12.800
<v Speaker 2>because of your reference. I mean this right right, Look,

1553
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:16.079
<v Speaker 2>you asked, where does it go? Okay? It's a civil matter,

1554
01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:20.760
<v Speaker 2>just like any civil matter, so you'd have to sue him.

1555
01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:23.560
<v Speaker 9>Okay, okay, and it's unfortunate. Well, I appreciate that.

1556
01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:27.319
<v Speaker 2>But you better check to see if the if the

1557
01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:30.079
<v Speaker 2>trust that you know, they may have had the trust.

1558
01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:32.600
<v Speaker 2>If he could not financially back it up, they may

1559
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:35.520
<v Speaker 2>have had the trust qualify. Just find that out.

1560
01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:38.800
<v Speaker 9>Right, Okay, that's a good question, asked. I'll definitely check

1561
01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:39.319
<v Speaker 9>on that, all.

1562
01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, and let us know. But man, that's a terrible

1563
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:46.239
<v Speaker 2>thing to happen, all right, Eric, Eric, hold on a

1564
01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:48.720
<v Speaker 2>sac bro. I'm going to take you right after the break,

1565
01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:51.840
<v Speaker 2>but I want to summarize what you're calling about. And again,

1566
01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:57.000
<v Speaker 2>you called about a week or so ago and you

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01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:02.239
<v Speaker 2>said that you were at King Supers. Now, you you

1568
01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:05.600
<v Speaker 2>went to this King Soupers frequently, but at this one

1569
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:11.920
<v Speaker 2>time you went. You asked the clerk who was behind

1570
01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:16.079
<v Speaker 2>the counter. You saw her getting cigarettes for someone, and

1571
01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:19.399
<v Speaker 2>you asked, hey, while you're up there, can you get

1572
01:18:19.439 --> 01:18:26.199
<v Speaker 2>me a pack? And she said, no, talk to Leonard

1573
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:30.520
<v Speaker 2>because Leonard's a black man. And then she said to you,

1574
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:33.520
<v Speaker 2>you talked to Leonard. I'm not going to.

1575
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:36.760
<v Speaker 5>Get g with the glee Glennard.

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01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Glennard. I'm sorry, Yeah, okay, thank you, So talk to Glennard.

1577
01:18:43.239 --> 01:18:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm a racist. That's what she said to you. Right, yes,

1578
01:18:47.279 --> 01:18:55.680
<v Speaker 2>all right, hold on and we'll come right back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

1586
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:24.159
<v Speaker 2>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

1587
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<v Speaker 2>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martine, you're troubleshooter three all

1588
01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:38.359
<v Speaker 2>three seven one three talks seven one three eight two

1589
01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:44.920
<v Speaker 2>five five. So, Eric, you were at King Soupers and

1590
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:49.399
<v Speaker 2>you said that this woman just said I'm a racist

1591
01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:52.239
<v Speaker 2>and she wouldn't wait on you. But you said, this

1592
01:19:52.279 --> 01:19:54.720
<v Speaker 2>is a woman you had countered many times before at

1593
01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:57.520
<v Speaker 2>King Soupers as a clerk, and she was always rude

1594
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:01.840
<v Speaker 2>to you, but she never said the racist thing before. No,

1595
01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:05.239
<v Speaker 2>and then and then you said, you went, according to

1596
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:09.439
<v Speaker 2>my notes, you went to management and said that she

1597
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:15.399
<v Speaker 2>just said she's a racist, and they didn't care Yeah,

1598
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Well there's what do you when you said they took

1599
01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:21.560
<v Speaker 2>her side? What did they What do you mean they

1600
01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:22.520
<v Speaker 2>took her side?

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01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:25.640
<v Speaker 5>Because they didn't give me a chance to explain. They

1602
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:28.560
<v Speaker 5>just told me I had to exit the store. And

1603
01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:31.119
<v Speaker 5>you weren't raging or anything something.

1604
01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:32.840
<v Speaker 2>You know you can in a minute, Eric, but you

1605
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:36.199
<v Speaker 2>don't control the conversation until I get the background. When

1606
01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:40.039
<v Speaker 2>you went to the manager, what did you complain about

1607
01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:42.520
<v Speaker 2>to that manager? What did you say to that manager?

1608
01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:48.119
<v Speaker 5>The manager was called up by Leslie. She approached me.

1609
01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Leslie's the one that said I'm a racist? Or is

1610
01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:51.359
<v Speaker 2>that someone else?

1611
01:20:52.239 --> 01:20:52.880
<v Speaker 5>Leslie did?

1612
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, go ahead.

1613
01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:59.560
<v Speaker 5>She called them. She called the manager you know from

1614
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:03.560
<v Speaker 5>the intercom, and she came up and I waited and

1615
01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:08.239
<v Speaker 5>I told her what she was, Leslie said, And Tracy

1616
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:13.319
<v Speaker 5>was there. Lenard is my witness. Tracy is my witness.

1617
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:17.399
<v Speaker 5>I talked to them this morning, and Glennard is waiting

1618
01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:20.239
<v Speaker 5>for you to call him. He's been waiting since ten o'clock.

1619
01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But just before you go there, though, you said

1620
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:28.800
<v Speaker 2>to the manager, this woman says she's a racist and

1621
01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:31.039
<v Speaker 2>would not wait on me. Is that what you said?

1622
01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:40.760
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely? I didn't want to argue, Okay, the situation because

1623
01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:44.239
<v Speaker 5>you know the police officer I told you he heard it,

1624
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:45.039
<v Speaker 5>Tracy hurt.

1625
01:21:45.119 --> 01:21:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Except everyone that you asked us to talk to playing

1626
01:21:48.880 --> 01:21:49.640
<v Speaker 2>they didn't hear it.

1627
01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:52.119
<v Speaker 5>They heard it, but.

1628
01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:55.119
<v Speaker 2>They said on the radio. Every person you got on

1629
01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:57.039
<v Speaker 2>the radio said I didn't hear a thing.

1630
01:21:57.960 --> 01:21:58.960
<v Speaker 5>They're afraid.

1631
01:21:59.319 --> 01:22:03.119
<v Speaker 2>They're afraid. So what are you calling about today? I

1632
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:05.640
<v Speaker 2>know you called several days you wanted to follow this up.

1633
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:07.399
<v Speaker 2>What do you want to what do you want to

1634
01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:08.399
<v Speaker 2>accomplish today?

1635
01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:11.600
<v Speaker 5>I have Leonard waiting for you to call him.

1636
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, Kaschina, do you have Glennard's number? Yeah? Hold on,

1637
01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:20.479
<v Speaker 2>hold on, I don't want I want to put you

1638
01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:23.239
<v Speaker 2>on hold. She'll get it and call the guy. Okay,

1639
01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:27.840
<v Speaker 2>hold on, and uh so Glenyard is a black man?

1640
01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:30.720
<v Speaker 2>And uh, I don't think I've ever heard that name

1641
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:34.640
<v Speaker 2>before Glennard. Has anyone heard that? Okay? In any case,

1642
01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:38.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe Glennard had a relative named Glenn and one

1643
01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:44.880
<v Speaker 2>named Leonard. Who knows. But here's the thing. I'm not

1644
01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:49.279
<v Speaker 2>sure what he wants, and I'm not sure what she meant.

1645
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I know what she managed. If she said

1646
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm a racist, I'm not going to wait on you.

1647
01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:57.880
<v Speaker 2>But she didn't exactly say that. She said, talk to Leonard,

1648
01:22:58.119 --> 01:23:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm a racist. That could have been set like a

1649
01:23:01.640 --> 01:23:06.800
<v Speaker 2>sarcastic because, in other words, Leonard's a black man, and

1650
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:10.439
<v Speaker 2>the guy calling Eric is a black man, and Leslie

1651
01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:16.000
<v Speaker 2>is white. And maybe someone suggested it sounds like maybe

1652
01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Eric does not like Leslie. Leslie does not like Eric,

1653
01:23:22.760 --> 01:23:27.760
<v Speaker 2>and it could be that Eric accused Leslie of being

1654
01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:31.399
<v Speaker 2>a racist in the past and maybe even called her that,

1655
01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and then when he wanted cigarettes, she figures, no, ask

1656
01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:40.079
<v Speaker 2>your black friend, I'm a racist.

1657
01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:41.159
<v Speaker 6>Hey, Tom, let me ask you.

1658
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's the way it was it went down. Go ahead.

1659
01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:48.720
<v Speaker 6>My theory is that when it comes to taking cigarettes

1660
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:51.239
<v Speaker 6>out of a lock cabinet, they probably have to keep

1661
01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:54.119
<v Speaker 6>track of the packs that each one takes. So if

1662
01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:57.279
<v Speaker 6>Leslie took out two packs for John Doe.

1663
01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I think you might be overthinking this now.

1664
01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:00.720
<v Speaker 6>No, no, and then you couldn't take out more than

1665
01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:04.760
<v Speaker 6>that for him, he says. Then she said it sarcastically

1666
01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:07.920
<v Speaker 6>because he should know that she has to account for

1667
01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.239
<v Speaker 6>the number of cigarette packs she takes.

1668
01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:16.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but why then what's the racist part about?

1669
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I think she's being.

1670
01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:20.600
<v Speaker 6>Facetious because he's weing she's waiting on him in the past.

1671
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:23.439
<v Speaker 2>I can't, she says, I can't.

1672
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:26.199
<v Speaker 6>Do it, rather than going to a big explanation, Well,

1673
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:28.159
<v Speaker 6>I have to account for every pack blah blah, so

1674
01:24:28.319 --> 01:24:29.520
<v Speaker 6>I'm a racist.

1675
01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:31.840
<v Speaker 12>When Glennard gets on, ask him.

1676
01:24:31.680 --> 01:24:34.239
<v Speaker 6>If he has to account for every pack of cigarettes,

1677
01:24:34.399 --> 01:24:35.920
<v Speaker 6>then he takes out of a log cabinet.

1678
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll ask, but I don't know if that's a

1679
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:42.880
<v Speaker 2>big Is he on right now? By the way, he's on? Okay, Hey, Glennard,

1680
01:24:43.159 --> 01:24:46.119
<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for coming on. I'd like to

1681
01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:50.439
<v Speaker 2>ask you a question real quick here. Yeah, first, I

1682
01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:52.720
<v Speaker 2>want to give you a background you probably know. Eric

1683
01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:57.600
<v Speaker 2>claims he was in King Soupers one day asking Leslie

1684
01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:02.119
<v Speaker 2>for a pack of cigarettes. Yes, and Leslie said to him,

1685
01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:05.399
<v Speaker 2>as Glennard, I'm racist.

1686
01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:08.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, she did tell us that that is completely

1687
01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:11.199
<v Speaker 5>wrong about telling somebody or something like that.

1688
01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:12.520
<v Speaker 2>So you heard it.

1689
01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:14.479
<v Speaker 5>Uh huh?

1690
01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>You heard Leslie say that to Eric?

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01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:19.680
<v Speaker 5>Uh huh?

1692
01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Why did she tell him that?

1693
01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:25.079
<v Speaker 5>I am, to be honest to you, I don't even

1694
01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:27.640
<v Speaker 5>know why she did.

1695
01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this. Do they have history? Do

1696
01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:32.479
<v Speaker 2>they know each other? Could she have been could it

1697
01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>have been sarcastic?

1698
01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:37.079
<v Speaker 5>I honestly don't know.

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01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:40.760
<v Speaker 11>I honestly go happy nods about that bus.

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01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you don't know anything about their background.

1701
01:25:44.600 --> 01:25:46.840
<v Speaker 5>No, I really don't, to be honest.

1702
01:25:47.199 --> 01:25:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So is it possible she was fooling around or

1703
01:25:53.960 --> 01:25:55.720
<v Speaker 2>did she sound pretty serious?

1704
01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:59.960
<v Speaker 8>He did say she seemed to be serious.

1705
01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:03.720
<v Speaker 2>About Now were you there when he complained to management?

1706
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:10.159
<v Speaker 5>No, I was working at the time. I was just

1707
01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:11.439
<v Speaker 5>doing my time, that's all.

1708
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:13.640
<v Speaker 2>And you got him the cigarettes, right.

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01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:16.039
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I didn't go get into cigarettes foor.

1710
01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:21.479
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So then Eric says though that she's always given

1711
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:23.439
<v Speaker 2>him a hard time? Do you know anything about that?

1712
01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:24.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

1713
01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:30.800
<v Speaker 2>This guy get fired as well. Huh did you get fired? No?

1714
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Well I thought Eric said you got fired. Is that

1715
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:35.359
<v Speaker 2>somebody else?

1716
01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:37.399
<v Speaker 5>That's not true. I don't know.

1717
01:26:39.199 --> 01:26:41.319
<v Speaker 2>Hey Eric, Wait, wait, did you quit?

1718
01:26:41.439 --> 01:26:43.600
<v Speaker 5>He got transferred to another store?

1719
01:26:43.880 --> 01:26:44.039
<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:47.560
<v Speaker 5>Okay, No, he haven't worked. Yeah, I've got transferred to

1721
01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:48.039
<v Speaker 5>those store.

1722
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Hey, glenned, when.

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01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:53.119
<v Speaker 6>You take cigarettes out of the cabinet the locked do

1724
01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:56.640
<v Speaker 6>you have to account every package you take out?

1725
01:26:58.439 --> 01:26:59.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? He has just one.

1726
01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:03.159
<v Speaker 6>No, No, when you you have the key to the

1727
01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:04.159
<v Speaker 6>cigarette cabinet.

1728
01:27:04.239 --> 01:27:05.880
<v Speaker 8>Right, No, I don't.

1729
01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Who does.

1730
01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.319
<v Speaker 5>It's locked behind the counter.

1731
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:14.760
<v Speaker 2>You're going down an alley. That doesn't matter. Doc is

1732
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>trying here, Glennard. Here's what Doc is trying to say

1733
01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:21.880
<v Speaker 2>that the reason Leslie did not get him a pack

1734
01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>of cigarettes is because she can only wait on one

1735
01:27:26.439 --> 01:27:31.079
<v Speaker 2>customer at a time in the cigarette locker and she

1736
01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:34.640
<v Speaker 2>has to lock it back up again, put the key back,

1737
01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>then go get the key again for the other customer.

1738
01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, that sounds like, okay, that doesn't happen. Well,

1739
01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:46.279
<v Speaker 2>let me ask you a very simple question. Let me

1740
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>ask you a very simple question then, okay, and that

1741
01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:53.560
<v Speaker 2>is this right now? Is she a racist? In your opinion?

1742
01:27:57.399 --> 01:28:00.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't I know if she's say that.

1743
01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Has she ever been racist to you?

1744
01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:06.119
<v Speaker 8>No, she hasn't, has she?

1745
01:28:06.199 --> 01:28:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you get along fine with her. You know

1746
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:09.800
<v Speaker 2>what's still throwing me.

1747
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:13.600
<v Speaker 14>I'm almost positive Eric said this guy got fired.

1748
01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:15.920
<v Speaker 11>I didn't get fired.

1749
01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:19.439
<v Speaker 14>I understand that. But that's not what Eric said on

1750
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:21.920
<v Speaker 14>the first call. And I can pull the audio. Eric,

1751
01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:23.680
<v Speaker 14>why did you say he got fired?

1752
01:28:25.319 --> 01:28:28.439
<v Speaker 5>That's what the rumor was Tom.

1753
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Because he got transferred. He got transferred to another store.

1754
01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:34.640
<v Speaker 2>So you assumed it was fired. Eric, how's your cancer doing?

1755
01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:38.479
<v Speaker 2>By the way, how's my I got my feeling.

1756
01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:40.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad you asked that I've got my records coming

1757
01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:42.279
<v Speaker 5>so that I could send them to you.

1758
01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:46.479
<v Speaker 2>Tom, you remind me that's dragon Dragon was talking about

1759
01:28:46.479 --> 01:28:49.479
<v Speaker 2>your cancers. He said, right, yeah, I had.

1760
01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:51.800
<v Speaker 5>I had to text you my paperwork.

1761
01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But that paperwork, listen, listen, listen, that paperwork doesn't

1762
01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>say you have cancer.

1763
01:28:57.640 --> 01:29:00.000
<v Speaker 5>My records are coming, Tom and takes.

1764
01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Paperwork you sent me does not say you have cancer.

1765
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to make that very clear.

1766
01:29:04.279 --> 01:29:06.399
<v Speaker 5>What you had going to come to you?

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01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Eric, when they come to me, that will be fine. Okay. Yeah,

1768
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:17.479
<v Speaker 2>But the paperwork you sent me was a request. What's

1769
01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:19.560
<v Speaker 2>that going to tell you?

1770
01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:20.239
<v Speaker 5>I have cancer?

1771
01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>The first of all about it doesn't really matter that

1772
01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>much to me. I mean, I I I hope you

1773
01:29:26.039 --> 01:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>don't have cancer.

1774
01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:29.840
<v Speaker 5>But what I meant by that going to that store

1775
01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:32.039
<v Speaker 5>to give my my pharmacy.

1776
01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>That's what That's the point I was making is that

1777
01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>when you said you had cancer, and you can't go

1778
01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:39.479
<v Speaker 2>there anymore at all, not even to get your medicine,

1779
01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, not yet.

1780
01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:43.039
<v Speaker 5>I can't go in the store because I'm going to

1781
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:45.079
<v Speaker 5>fight this U through the through the end.

1782
01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:48.479
<v Speaker 2>Is there there's no other pharmacy you can go to.

1783
01:29:49.680 --> 01:29:52.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to have to be the inconvenience I

1784
01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:57.359
<v Speaker 5>live like. If my drive there, it's like two minutes. Okay,

1785
01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:03.000
<v Speaker 5>that's right. He meant corridos there too, across the street.

1786
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:05.840
<v Speaker 5>I didn't hear that comment.

1787
01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't either. What did you say, Mark, he used to.

1788
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:12.039
<v Speaker 14>One of the issues that I think also came up

1789
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:15.159
<v Speaker 14>was the fact the woman that he's saying said that

1790
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.920
<v Speaker 14>she was prejudiced was also mad that he was selling

1791
01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:21.000
<v Speaker 14>his burritos in the store.

1792
01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:28.319
<v Speaker 2>That's right. A lot of nuances here. Yeah, so what

1793
01:30:28.359 --> 01:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>the burritos?

1794
01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:31.640
<v Speaker 5>She's been harassing me for years?

1795
01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:35.439
<v Speaker 14>Tom Well, in her defense, though, most stores don't want

1796
01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:38.760
<v Speaker 14>you selling burritos out of a cooler inside the store.

1797
01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:40.960
<v Speaker 5>No, I'm outside.

1798
01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, they don't want you right outside selling burritos either

1799
01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:45.800
<v Speaker 2>on their property.

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01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:50.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I stopped when they told me that I complied.

1801
01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Did anything happen to listen?

1802
01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:58.399
<v Speaker 5>Nothing? And Tom, I wanted to give you Tracy's number,

1803
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:00.560
<v Speaker 5>the assistant manager.

1804
01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:04.159
<v Speaker 2>We already told her, she said, we already talked to.

1805
01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:09.880
<v Speaker 5>No, you haven't talked to Tracy, okay, Tracy, I.

1806
01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:15.760
<v Speaker 2>But no one talked to Leslie though. The one who.

1807
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:18.840
<v Speaker 5>Actually there two is she's so brazen she probably would

1808
01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:20.399
<v Speaker 5>tell you the truth that she said.

1809
01:31:20.680 --> 01:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>You know what, we should talk to Leslie directly. We

1810
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>really should.

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01:31:24.680 --> 01:31:27.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she's there. I'll give you the number.

1812
01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:30.079
<v Speaker 2>All right, hold on, we should. Well, that's what we're

1813
01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna Glennard, thank you very much. We're gonna talk to

1814
01:31:33.039 --> 01:31:36.159
<v Speaker 2>her next. We're gonna talk directly to her. See what

1815
01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:39.399
<v Speaker 2>she has to say about this. You're gonna call her

1816
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<v Speaker 2>seven one three talk seven, one, three, eight, two, five five.

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<v Speaker 2>We did talk to Leslie, Eric, we did talk to Leslie,

1828
01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:45.319
<v Speaker 2>and once again, who's Leslie? The what Leslie supposedly the

1829
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:49.840
<v Speaker 2>clerk that said I'm racist? Oh? And what did Leslie say?

1830
01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Leslie said, I'm working and I can't talk right now,

1831
01:32:55.359 --> 01:32:58.359
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to get into this. And then

1832
01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I don't think Leslie the one that

1833
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:01.239
<v Speaker 2>said it? Is it?

1834
01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:01.560
<v Speaker 8>Eric?

1835
01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is? And then or supposedly, and then Kachina said, well,

1836
01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>can you at least tell us if it's true? Did

1837
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:14.560
<v Speaker 2>you say that? And she hung up on her?

1838
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:23.279
<v Speaker 5>So, Eric, that's her? Well, yeah, Tracy is the assistant

1839
01:33:23.319 --> 01:33:27.279
<v Speaker 5>manager that heard Neslie say that. She's at the store too,

1840
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:30.279
<v Speaker 5>and she said she would have told her that Tom

1841
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:32.239
<v Speaker 5>was gone. Well, she's going to get a phone call.

1842
01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:37.159
<v Speaker 5>Tracy works right alongside of Leslie.

1843
01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:41.039
<v Speaker 2>And Tracy. Isn't she the one that would not talk

1844
01:33:41.079 --> 01:33:42.640
<v Speaker 2>on the err or did she deny it?

1845
01:33:43.560 --> 01:33:50.199
<v Speaker 5>No, that's Regina and Shelley. Oh she's there. She's the

1846
01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:51.439
<v Speaker 5>one that would Tracy.

1847
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Did Tracy hear it?

1848
01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:53.880
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

1849
01:33:54.600 --> 01:33:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Then why wouldn't Tracy do anything about it? If she's

1850
01:33:57.680 --> 01:33:59.359
<v Speaker 2>an assistant manager.

1851
01:33:59.159 --> 01:34:01.520
<v Speaker 5>They're all of Leslie.

1852
01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Man, why are they afraid of Leslie? Does she wear

1853
01:34:04.680 --> 01:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>a white hood?

1854
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:09.800
<v Speaker 20>Is she a super high manager or something?

1855
01:34:10.359 --> 01:34:15.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she's just been there for years, twenty plus that game.

1856
01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:18.119
<v Speaker 20>I've been here for twenty years, but doesn't mean I

1857
01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:19.279
<v Speaker 20>got any pull around here.

1858
01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:21.720
<v Speaker 2>We're afraid of you a little anyway.

1859
01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:24.800
<v Speaker 22>Well, the interesting thing is when I did talk to

1860
01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:27.920
<v Speaker 22>the initial person who answered the phone, they had no

1861
01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:31.680
<v Speaker 22>idea who Leslie was or that she worked there, And

1862
01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:34.680
<v Speaker 22>literally kind of put the phone on her shoulder and

1863
01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:38.079
<v Speaker 22>yelled around and said, do we have a Leslie that

1864
01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:38.560
<v Speaker 22>works Are.

1865
01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:39.199
<v Speaker 2>You kidding me?

1866
01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:39.479
<v Speaker 21>No?

1867
01:34:40.399 --> 01:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>And how is that possible?

1868
01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:47.039
<v Speaker 22>According to Eric, she's important and then Leslie.

1869
01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:49.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know who's employed there. It could be

1870
01:34:49.520 --> 01:34:50.079
<v Speaker 5>brand new.

1871
01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:52.279
<v Speaker 2>We're saying. Somebody answered maybe they didn't know.

1872
01:34:52.720 --> 01:34:56.720
<v Speaker 22>And so she did literally ask is there a Leslie

1873
01:34:56.720 --> 01:34:59.880
<v Speaker 22>that works here? She kind of yelled it at a

1874
01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:03.920
<v Speaker 22>oh okay, well here there's somebody that wants to talk

1875
01:35:03.960 --> 01:35:04.199
<v Speaker 22>to you.

1876
01:35:04.479 --> 01:35:07.159
<v Speaker 20>It could make sense because if Glennard was transferred away,

1877
01:35:07.199 --> 01:35:09.279
<v Speaker 20>they would need a new body to replace him, so

1878
01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:11.199
<v Speaker 20>that could make sense that she's new and didn't know.

1879
01:35:11.680 --> 01:35:13.840
<v Speaker 14>Kelly, what did you make of it? Do you think

1880
01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:16.199
<v Speaker 14>it happened after talking to her.

1881
01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:20.119
<v Speaker 22>Well, she was very kurt when I asked her whether

1882
01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:25.000
<v Speaker 22>or not it actually happened that when she was very

1883
01:35:25.039 --> 01:35:26.079
<v Speaker 22>short abrupt.

1884
01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, And here's the thing.

1885
01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:34.479
<v Speaker 5>Can we resolved by talking to Tracy?

1886
01:35:35.239 --> 01:35:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's call Tracy?

1887
01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:40.000
<v Speaker 5>Do it ship the same store number?

1888
01:35:40.079 --> 01:35:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Well? How do you? But what can Tracy? She didn't

1889
01:35:42.439 --> 01:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>hear it. Did you have the cell phone?

1890
01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:46.520
<v Speaker 5>Tracy?

1891
01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1892
01:35:48.199 --> 01:35:49.479
<v Speaker 20>Remind me which one was Tracy?

1893
01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:49.800
<v Speaker 5>Again?

1894
01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Tracy is the assistant manager.

1895
01:35:52.399 --> 01:35:55.439
<v Speaker 14>She works in the meat department between ten am and

1896
01:35:55.560 --> 01:35:56.640
<v Speaker 14>ten fifteen.

1897
01:35:56.279 --> 01:35:57.479
<v Speaker 2>On her does it?

1898
01:35:58.479 --> 01:36:00.800
<v Speaker 5>She's the assistant manager of all the store.

1899
01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:05.840
<v Speaker 2>We're just kidding Eric, Eric, Okay, now listen, Eric, let

1900
01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:09.319
<v Speaker 2>me ask you something. What if what if we find

1901
01:36:09.359 --> 01:36:13.399
<v Speaker 2>out that she really did say this, I'm racist? What

1902
01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:14.479
<v Speaker 2>do you think should happen?

1903
01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:18.319
<v Speaker 5>Well, Glennard just told you she said it.

1904
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<v Speaker 2>I want to know what do you think should happen?

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<v Speaker 5>I want her fired. Everybody wants her fired. I know

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01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:29.920
<v Speaker 5>the whole store. You know personnel. I've been going there

1907
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:33.159
<v Speaker 5>so long. They don't they hate her and this other woman.

1908
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<v Speaker 5>I won't mention her name.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if she's ever acted out against any blacks though, yes,

1910
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<v Speaker 2>other than refusing you cigarettes. And by the way, I

1911
01:36:43.680 --> 01:36:47.279
<v Speaker 2>don't that didn't. That whole dichotomy did not escape me,

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<v Speaker 2>that you have cancer and you're smoking.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I'm right, of course. I mean, how the hell

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<v Speaker 2>can you justify that?

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<v Speaker 5>You're right?

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<v Speaker 20>I shouldn't be smoked with stage four There, Tommy, you

1918
01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:03.439
<v Speaker 20>kind of give yourself a little bit of leeways. So

1919
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<v Speaker 20>it's okay, you.

1920
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<v Speaker 5>Guys have done it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna eat.

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<v Speaker 5>Your words when I send.

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<v Speaker 10>You my.

1924
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<v Speaker 5>Medical report. Why my word, because you guys don't believe

1925
01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:17.560
<v Speaker 5>it's nothing to brag about. I've just been hanging tougher.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric.

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<v Speaker 14>Wait, wait wait, I think we're Eric. I think you're forgetting.

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<v Speaker 14>You told us four different stage four cancers you had.

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<v Speaker 14>Then when you were done saying it, you also mentioned

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<v Speaker 14>you had brain cancer. So you have five kinds of

1931
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:33.479
<v Speaker 14>stage four cancer, right.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I had prostate, colon, lung, and brain cancer. Tom

1933
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<v Speaker 5>and Mark, you did not get that mask my wife

1934
01:37:43.079 --> 01:37:47.640
<v Speaker 5>sent you for the brain cancer radiation. That was that

1935
01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:50.079
<v Speaker 5>mask that she sent you that I had to go

1936
01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:56.279
<v Speaker 5>under for the radiation to have it removed. It's kind

1937
01:37:56.279 --> 01:37:58.920
<v Speaker 5>of hard to talk about, but Mark, did you get

1938
01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:01.680
<v Speaker 5>that mask my wife sent you?

1939
01:38:01.720 --> 01:38:04.880
<v Speaker 2>No, No, he's said, you know what that is? He sent?

1940
01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:07.479
<v Speaker 2>She sent so many pictures. I mean I kind of

1941
01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:09.640
<v Speaker 2>just wait. I saw some.

1942
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:13.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's a mask that you have to go under

1943
01:38:14.159 --> 01:38:17.239
<v Speaker 5>to have your head steal and you're tightened in it

1944
01:38:17.439 --> 01:38:22.720
<v Speaker 5>like a like a for the brain. Yeah, that was

1945
01:38:22.760 --> 01:38:27.640
<v Speaker 5>that mask. And she didn't give any identification as to

1946
01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:29.840
<v Speaker 5>what it was. And I got kind of mad at

1947
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<v Speaker 5>her why she didn't describe what it was.

1948
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, click up date, guys, yeah, click up date.

1949
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<v Speaker 22>Tracy is not there today.

1950
01:38:37.039 --> 01:38:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Tracy is not there today, thank you.

1951
01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:43.640
<v Speaker 5>She clashed dogs. And because I spoke to her this

1952
01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:46.079
<v Speaker 5>morning at six o'clock, you know he is.

1953
01:38:46.279 --> 01:38:51.720
<v Speaker 14>He is really stuck to this story in an unbelievable way.

1954
01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:54.800
<v Speaker 14>I'm starting to think now I don't know why she

1955
01:38:54.920 --> 01:38:58.439
<v Speaker 14>would say it, and that that's that could shed a

1956
01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:01.359
<v Speaker 14>lot of light onto it. But I'm starting to really

1957
01:39:01.399 --> 01:39:03.039
<v Speaker 14>think she did say the comment.

1958
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<v Speaker 16>You know, the bottom line, Eric, forget the racism stuff.

1959
01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:11.720
<v Speaker 12>You need access.

1960
01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:14.960
<v Speaker 16>You want access back into this King Supers to get

1961
01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:15.439
<v Speaker 16>your persup.

1962
01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>That's your main goal, right to get just so you're

1963
01:39:17.960 --> 01:39:19.680
<v Speaker 2>not banned anymore. Her canned.

1964
01:39:19.800 --> 01:39:24.920
<v Speaker 16>Man, Well, isn't getting a prescriptions more important than trying

1965
01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:28.760
<v Speaker 16>to get somebody terminated on something?

1966
01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:31.960
<v Speaker 5>Not the way she harassed me that time? Young man?

1967
01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:32.960
<v Speaker 5>Who am I thinking to?

1968
01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:36.439
<v Speaker 2>There's all kinds of people, It doesn't matter, you won't remember.

1969
01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:39.439
<v Speaker 2>There's all kinds of voices. We're all here, man, we

1970
01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:41.560
<v Speaker 2>got like seven eight people here.

1971
01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:45.720
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So I want to access to that store. Tom,

1972
01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:48.000
<v Speaker 5>you've written my tech that I gave you, you know

1973
01:39:48.239 --> 01:39:51.560
<v Speaker 5>initially what had happened. Yeah, I want access to get

1974
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:52.439
<v Speaker 5>my medication.

1975
01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Man, Yeah, okay, all right, hold on, bro, just hold on.

1976
01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:00.159
<v Speaker 2>By the way, anybody got any observations three h three

1977
01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:03.079
<v Speaker 2>seven one three talk three or three seven one three

1978
01:40:03.079 --> 01:40:05.720
<v Speaker 2>eight two five five. You can also call us with

1979
01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:10.279
<v Speaker 2>any problem, question and complaint. We got this hour ending. Well,

1980
01:40:10.359 --> 01:40:11.880
<v Speaker 2>we got a few more minutes left, then we have

1981
01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>the next hour. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best

1982
01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:22.840
<v Speaker 2>roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent

1983
01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:29.119
<v Speaker 2>until you're content. Time for an insurance check up free

1984
01:40:29.199 --> 01:40:33.239
<v Speaker 2>no obligation comparison call Compass Insurance paying too much your

1985
01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:36.279
<v Speaker 2>coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now three

1986
01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:38.600
<v Speaker 2>oh three seven to seven to one help you'll think

1987
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:41.159
<v Speaker 2>you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand the

1988
01:40:41.239 --> 01:40:43.880
<v Speaker 2>real estate man dot com to list your home with

1989
01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty

1990
01:40:47.359 --> 01:40:53.840
<v Speaker 2>two seven one three eight two five five. Well, guys,

1991
01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:56.680
<v Speaker 2>what do you think? Seriously? Way in what do you think?

1992
01:40:57.239 --> 01:40:59.479
<v Speaker 2>People say? I have a hard time believing somebody would

1993
01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:02.119
<v Speaker 2>do that. At work, somebody else says she was definitely

1994
01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:08.800
<v Speaker 2>being sarcastic? What else? I mean, Mark, do you think

1995
01:41:08.840 --> 01:41:10.399
<v Speaker 2>it could have been said? Do you think it was

1996
01:41:10.399 --> 01:41:13.880
<v Speaker 2>sarcasm or do you think it was I don't know,

1997
01:41:14.359 --> 01:41:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Wyse ass what do you think? And I don't know

1998
01:41:20.039 --> 01:41:23.960
<v Speaker 2>if Mark's still there? But in any case, all of you, doc,

1999
01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:25.000
<v Speaker 2>what do you think?

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01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:25.720
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

2001
01:41:25.760 --> 01:41:28.359
<v Speaker 6>I told you my thirty you just don't agree with it?

2002
01:41:28.399 --> 01:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

2003
01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:32.279
<v Speaker 2>What does that have to do with the racist thing?

2004
01:41:32.560 --> 01:41:36.359
<v Speaker 6>Because I think it was said sarcastically, totally facetious.

2005
01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:38.479
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Bo, what do you think?

2006
01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:43.399
<v Speaker 16>I think he may have misinterpreted what she was trying

2007
01:41:43.399 --> 01:41:43.960
<v Speaker 16>to convey.

2008
01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you think it was sarcastic?

2009
01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:46.079
<v Speaker 12>I do.

2010
01:41:46.159 --> 01:41:48.479
<v Speaker 2>I just asked him, I'm racist, blown.

2011
01:41:48.239 --> 01:41:48.960
<v Speaker 16>Out of proportion.

2012
01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:52.199
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that but I don't think she should

2013
01:41:52.239 --> 01:41:55.079
<v Speaker 2>be fired. I think it was sarcastic. I really do.

2014
01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, because I can see it happening.

2015
01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:00.119
<v Speaker 20>What do you think, Dragon, It's hard to say that

2016
01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:03.840
<v Speaker 20>if it even happened, because we've had five people on

2017
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:08.760
<v Speaker 20>the air say I wasn't there or it didn't happen, including.

2018
01:42:08.439 --> 01:42:11.520
<v Speaker 2>That I didn't hear anything, right, including a police highness.

2019
01:42:11.880 --> 01:42:14.520
<v Speaker 20>He said, Now, we've only got one person who said

2020
01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:17.760
<v Speaker 20>that it did happen. It may have, but we have

2021
01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:20.039
<v Speaker 20>no way of proving anything. So I don't know how

2022
01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:23.359
<v Speaker 20>we can help him other than moving his prescriptions to

2023
01:42:23.399 --> 01:42:24.600
<v Speaker 20>a different store. Possibly.

2024
01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Now, Eric, on a serious note here, you say you

2025
01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:30.399
<v Speaker 2>want to be able to get your prescriptions. There are

2026
01:42:30.399 --> 01:42:32.880
<v Speaker 2>you saying there are no Walgreens in the area, or

2027
01:42:32.920 --> 01:42:35.359
<v Speaker 2>you can't get express scripts delivered to your house.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the absolute point. Yeah, I'm gonna let that woman

2029
01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:48.039
<v Speaker 5>ridicule me, disgrace me, Tom and you to service you

2030
01:42:48.279 --> 01:42:49.880
<v Speaker 5>without a fight. I'm not going yet.

2031
01:42:49.960 --> 01:42:51.680
<v Speaker 20>This is what you what you want to spend your

2032
01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:52.560
<v Speaker 20>last days on?

2033
01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:53.039
<v Speaker 2>My friend?

2034
01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:57.399
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's called pride, okay. I just want to make

2035
01:42:57.439 --> 01:42:58.199
<v Speaker 5>sure we're all clear.

2036
01:42:58.640 --> 01:43:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, and listen, I don't know. I'm gonna

2037
01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna hope that you can gather up some more

2038
01:43:06.880 --> 01:43:10.520
<v Speaker 2>evidence and let us know. But right now this is

2039
01:43:10.600 --> 01:43:11.079
<v Speaker 2>on hold.

2040
01:43:11.399 --> 01:43:13.199
<v Speaker 5>You want to get it on recording.

2041
01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Watch all right, go with a sure thing Denver's Best

2042
01:43:17.399 --> 01:43:20.279
<v Speaker 2>roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent

2043
01:43:20.479 --> 01:43:26.680
<v Speaker 2>until you're content. Time for an insurance checkup free, no

2044
01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>obligation in comparison call Compass Insurance. Pay too much your

2045
01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:33.640
<v Speaker 2>coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now three

2046
01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>oh three seven to seven to one help. You'll think

2047
01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:38.640
<v Speaker 2>you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand the

2048
01:43:38.640 --> 01:43:41.279
<v Speaker 2>real estate Man dot com to list your home with

2049
01:43:41.399 --> 01:43:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

2050
01:43:50.520 --> 01:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Ripped off bad news, de need advisel.

2051
01:43:55.239 --> 01:43:56.039
<v Speaker 5>You don't have the.

2052
01:43:58.039 --> 01:44:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Come running just stasis. Shooter's gonna help.

2053
01:44:03.319 --> 01:44:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Come. This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi,

2054
01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three zero three

2055
01:44:14.319 --> 01:44:18.119
<v Speaker 2>seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing today? What's on your mind? We

2057
01:44:20.439 --> 01:44:23.359
<v Speaker 2>have Dan mackenzie with us from McKenzie Law. People have

2058
01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:26.279
<v Speaker 2>been I'm sorry I didn't get to your text. And

2059
01:44:28.119 --> 01:44:33.359
<v Speaker 2>somebody wants to know about leaving motor vehicles. To transfer

2060
01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:35.880
<v Speaker 2>ownership of a vehicle when it's in in a state,

2061
01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:38.840
<v Speaker 2>does that require anything more than a small a state

2062
01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:43.000
<v Speaker 2>affid David? And when can you not use a small

2063
01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>estate affid David? And this is Dan McKenzie McKenzie law.

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<v Speaker 18>So right now, the threshold is eighty two thousand dollars.

2065
01:44:50.239 --> 01:44:52.119
<v Speaker 18>If the person passed away and had more than eighty

2066
01:44:52.119 --> 01:44:54.840
<v Speaker 18>two thousand dollars or real estate of any value, there's

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01:44:54.920 --> 01:44:56.279
<v Speaker 18>gonna have to be approbate to train and.

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01:44:56.279 --> 01:44:58.359
<v Speaker 2>It's eighty two and cash your valuables in it.

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01:44:58.439 --> 01:45:01.319
<v Speaker 18>Valuables and it's combined. If I have two accounts of

2070
01:45:01.359 --> 01:45:03.359
<v Speaker 18>fifty thousand each of them, that is one hundred thousand.

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01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:04.840
<v Speaker 18>That is more than needy too. We're going to have

2072
01:45:04.840 --> 01:45:05.479
<v Speaker 18>to do a probate.

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01:45:06.079 --> 01:45:08.079
<v Speaker 2>But did you just you just have a car?

2074
01:45:08.239 --> 01:45:10.479
<v Speaker 18>You go to the DMV because they have their own

2075
01:45:10.560 --> 01:45:13.039
<v Speaker 18>version of the small estate affidavit that you fill out there.

2076
01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh so you can do a car, just a car, yep?

2077
01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:22.680
<v Speaker 2>All right, three oh three seven one three TNK Bennett,

2078
01:45:22.720 --> 01:45:24.119
<v Speaker 2>what's going on with you? Bennett?

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01:45:25.199 --> 01:45:29.399
<v Speaker 4>Tom, I have a question about a week or so. Uh,

2080
01:45:29.680 --> 01:45:32.439
<v Speaker 4>somebody had a dog that had two chips in it

2081
01:45:33.239 --> 01:45:37.039
<v Speaker 4>and the second owner for two years. Didn't they have

2082
01:45:37.079 --> 01:45:39.079
<v Speaker 4>to give it back to the first owner or not?

2083
01:45:39.359 --> 01:45:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay that case, yes, that case answer. The first owner got.

2084
01:45:44.800 --> 01:45:48.039
<v Speaker 4>It, Yes, even though the second owner had it for

2085
01:45:48.079 --> 01:45:48.680
<v Speaker 4>two years.

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01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's correct. Now here's the thing, though, there are

2087
01:45:51.960 --> 01:45:55.840
<v Speaker 2>some people who disagreed with that and said that once

2088
01:45:56.039 --> 01:45:59.760
<v Speaker 2>it goes through the dumb Friends league, it should be

2089
01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:02.960
<v Speaker 2>it should belong to the dumb friends. I mean, it

2090
01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:06.079
<v Speaker 2>should belong to them to give it away. But they

2091
01:46:06.159 --> 01:46:09.439
<v Speaker 2>said that the old owner never had the right whcuse me,

2092
01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:15.520
<v Speaker 2>never had the opportunity to pick the right one to

2093
01:46:16.039 --> 01:46:17.199
<v Speaker 2>go back and get their dog.

2094
01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:18.680
<v Speaker 12>I mean right.

2095
01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:20.560
<v Speaker 6>And I spoke to two or three people I don't

2096
01:46:20.560 --> 01:46:24.920
<v Speaker 6>remember exactly, but the bottom line was, it's going back

2097
01:46:24.960 --> 01:46:28.079
<v Speaker 6>to the first owner. End of story. There's nothing else

2098
01:46:28.079 --> 01:46:28.920
<v Speaker 6>we could do about it.

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01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:33.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, give me that sucks because the other

2100
01:46:33.680 --> 01:46:34.880
<v Speaker 4>person had a fortunity.

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01:46:35.079 --> 01:46:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I get it. You're absolutely right, but the first owner,

2102
01:46:39.760 --> 01:46:46.079
<v Speaker 2>the first owner said, we did not abandon it. It

2103
01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:50.439
<v Speaker 2>was no one ever contacted us, and this person who

2104
01:46:50.479 --> 01:46:55.359
<v Speaker 2>adopted it claimed the first owner abandoned it, but that

2105
01:46:55.600 --> 01:46:58.039
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the real story. The real story is the dog

2106
01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:02.399
<v Speaker 2>was picked up and some body dropped the ball. So

2107
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<v Speaker 2>this person gets the dog, has it for two years.

2108
01:47:05.479 --> 01:47:08.399
<v Speaker 2>But remember in the two years that the dog got

2109
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<v Speaker 2>out three times and had to be recovered. The third

2110
01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:16.840
<v Speaker 2>time it was recovered by animal control. They apparently did

2111
01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:20.560
<v Speaker 2>this chip scan and did not find that guy's chip,

2112
01:47:20.600 --> 01:47:23.720
<v Speaker 2>but the other chip, it's a it's screwed up.

2113
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<v Speaker 4>Bennett, Yeah, Tom, it really is. You know, I have

2114
01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:31.199
<v Speaker 4>so much love for horses and dogs, right, and I

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<v Speaker 4>hate the word dumb friendly. I just hate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's dumb in that they don't speak. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean dumb asn't stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and thank you, thank you Bennett. Yeah, Bennett's got

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<v Speaker 2>a good heart. Now let's talk to Edward. Welcome Edward.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, well, I'm in the music and it's obviously profit

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01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:03.199
<v Speaker 11>but I want to shoot a scene in a church

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01:48:03.279 --> 01:48:06.119
<v Speaker 11>building that is a nonprofit but I don't want to

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<v Speaker 11>jeopardize their nonprofit status by doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, hold on, how would how You're in the music business, right, yes,

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01:48:17.119 --> 01:48:19.560
<v Speaker 2>and you want to shoot a music video or a video,

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<v Speaker 2>and you want to use this as a setting. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have no bearing on their nonprofit Why would it?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you think it may have a bearing on

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01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:32.319
<v Speaker 2>their nonprofit status because.

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<v Speaker 11>It's for profit activity and it would be in the

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<v Speaker 11>public eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, being in the public eye. It doesn't matter United

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<v Speaker 2>ways in the public eye. Let's talk about let's just

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the for profit. What would be for profit?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it's music. I've been in music forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>But right, but you're making the profit. They're not making

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<v Speaker 2>the profit.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, but it's for profit using a nonprofit facility.

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01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:08.439
<v Speaker 2>Well is the nonprofit facility? Are they charging you for use?

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<v Speaker 11>They didn't want to, but if that would be better.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, let me. I think you're just a little

2144
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<v Speaker 2>confused on what nonprofit means nonprofit. There's two nonprofits. There's

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01:49:23.159 --> 01:49:26.920
<v Speaker 2>nonprofits which simply have don't make profit. But they're not

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01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:31.239
<v Speaker 2>charities and they don't make profit because they've decided they

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01:49:31.239 --> 01:49:33.359
<v Speaker 2>don't want to make profit and they want to they

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<v Speaker 2>want to do something. It could be a personal mission,

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01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:39.640
<v Speaker 2>it could be a personal cause. It could just be

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<v Speaker 2>that they all get paid enough salaries. There's no stockholders,

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01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and they make no profit. It's not for profit. It

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01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:49.399
<v Speaker 2>is not a charity. No one gets any kind of

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01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:55.560
<v Speaker 2>benefit from it being nonprofit. Now then there's the five

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01:49:55.600 --> 01:50:01.079
<v Speaker 2>oh one C three, and that is that is a charity,

2155
01:50:01.560 --> 01:50:06.439
<v Speaker 2>meaning people get tax deductions for donating to it, and

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01:50:06.479 --> 01:50:12.039
<v Speaker 2>then it operates nonprofit. It can still pay tremendous salaries

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<v Speaker 2>and have all kinds of income. What they can't have

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<v Speaker 2>as profit, which means at the end of the day,

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01:50:19.600 --> 01:50:22.039
<v Speaker 2>they have to do all of their expenses and all

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<v Speaker 2>of their income and they have to come out either

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01:50:24.760 --> 01:50:27.920
<v Speaker 2>even or at a loss. What they don't what they

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01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:30.920
<v Speaker 2>must do as a charity as opposed to just a

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01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:38.800
<v Speaker 2>regular nonprofit. A charity must spend the money as specified

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<v Speaker 2>in their charter. So if it's a church, they may

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<v Speaker 2>have certain charter their primary goal. For example, if there

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<v Speaker 2>was a homeless coalition and this homeless coalition was a

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01:50:53.399 --> 01:51:00.640
<v Speaker 2>nonprofit charity, and this homeless coalition spent money on saving

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01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:05.000
<v Speaker 2>animals or doing something completely unrelated that wasn't in their charter,

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01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:09.159
<v Speaker 2>then that could they could lose their status. They have

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<v Speaker 2>to stay true to their organizational charter, but that's the

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01:51:13.239 --> 01:51:16.319
<v Speaker 2>only thing they have to do. What you do with

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01:51:16.399 --> 01:51:19.680
<v Speaker 2>a nonprofit has nothing to do with the nonprofit. If

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01:51:19.720 --> 01:51:23.439
<v Speaker 2>a nonprofit owns a building. There are people all day

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<v Speaker 2>long that use nonprofits, not just to shoot videos. They

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01:51:27.319 --> 01:51:34.680
<v Speaker 2>shoot movies, giant Blockbuster movies. They shoot or or wedding venues,

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01:51:35.079 --> 01:51:37.720
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of stuff, and they can even make money

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. What they can't do at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the year is make a profit. So I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you're worrying where there's no worry exists, and they're allowed

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01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:50.640
<v Speaker 2>to let you use that facility, but be careful. And

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01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:55.079
<v Speaker 2>here's why I say be careful if they let you

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01:51:55.319 --> 01:51:58.640
<v Speaker 2>use that facility on a regular basis or too much

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01:51:59.079 --> 01:52:02.760
<v Speaker 2>and they don't get income. If that facility was purchased

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<v Speaker 2>with charitable funds, then technically they should not be letting

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01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:14.319
<v Speaker 2>people use it to make money as a facility without

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01:52:14.399 --> 01:52:18.359
<v Speaker 2>getting without being paid per use. But that's only if

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01:52:18.359 --> 01:52:22.840
<v Speaker 2>it was exorbitant and if people complained, like the board

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01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:25.960
<v Speaker 2>of directors or members of the public. Let's say I

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01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:29.920
<v Speaker 2>donated money one hundred thousand dollars to this charity over

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01:52:29.920 --> 01:52:33.079
<v Speaker 2>the years, and even though I don't control the charity,

2191
01:52:33.199 --> 01:52:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, hey, I gave one hundred grand because

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in their purpose, and so their purpose is

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<v Speaker 2>a church, and their purpose is to win souls, And

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<v Speaker 2>I say this is I like paying that. Now, Let's

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01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:50.439
<v Speaker 2>say I notice that they are letting people use it

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01:52:50.960 --> 01:52:54.880
<v Speaker 2>free of charge A lot I may as a big

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01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:58.399
<v Speaker 2>contributor to that charity, say I don't think it's fair

2198
01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:01.079
<v Speaker 2>that I give my heart to earn money to help

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01:53:01.119 --> 01:53:04.439
<v Speaker 2>people and to help you save souls, and you turn

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01:53:04.520 --> 01:53:08.000
<v Speaker 2>around and let people use this for rock videos. I mean,

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01:53:08.039 --> 01:53:10.399
<v Speaker 2>you could get that kind of flack, but you're not

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01:53:10.479 --> 01:53:12.920
<v Speaker 2>going to get any kind of flack that would necessarily

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01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:18.920
<v Speaker 2>threaten their nonprofit or charitable status unless they were doing

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01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:23.840
<v Speaker 2>something egregious, for example, if they were charging for it

2205
01:53:24.159 --> 01:53:28.279
<v Speaker 2>and not claiming the income and they were having parties

2206
01:53:28.399 --> 01:53:32.119
<v Speaker 2>or the board of directors were taking under the table

2207
01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:36.159
<v Speaker 2>money to let people use it. But what you're talking

2208
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<v Speaker 2>about is a very straightforward situation. You want to use

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01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:42.680
<v Speaker 2>it as a backdrop whereas a set. The church is

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01:53:42.760 --> 01:53:45.119
<v Speaker 2>letting you do it. It's not going to hurt them

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01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:48.119
<v Speaker 2>at all. The only time it would hurt them as

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01:53:48.199 --> 01:53:53.239
<v Speaker 2>if somehow you did damage that building or did something

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01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:57.840
<v Speaker 2>where nonprofit or charitable funds would have to be used

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01:53:57.840 --> 01:53:59.439
<v Speaker 2>to fix something that you broke.

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01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:05.359
<v Speaker 11>Okay, So if you wan't of looking for all kinds

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01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:07.560
<v Speaker 11>of opportunities to take it away from.

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<v Speaker 2>Churches, who who is looking for it? The r is well, yeah,

2218
01:54:13.079 --> 01:54:15.840
<v Speaker 2>the IRS has been on a on a on a

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01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:19.720
<v Speaker 2>rampage against a lot of phony charities, and they don't

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01:54:19.720 --> 01:54:24.960
<v Speaker 2>want they don't want churches taking advantage of the nonprofit status,

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01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:27.760
<v Speaker 2>uh and of the charity you know, but they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I I you know, I don't know if they're specifically

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01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:34.800
<v Speaker 2>targeting churches or not. But in any case, I don't

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01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:37.159
<v Speaker 2>see anything that could go wrong if you simply are

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01:54:37.199 --> 01:54:38.600
<v Speaker 2>going to use it as a backdrop.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, just a one time video shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean I see nothing wrong with it.

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01:54:44.960 --> 01:54:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I I I don't see how that could possibly affect

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01:54:47.800 --> 01:54:52.800
<v Speaker 2>them at all. So I just told you that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the only concerns people may have three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 2>to one three talks seven one three eight two. If

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<v Speaker 2>I have hold on a second, I want to ask you, Edward,

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<v Speaker 2>so are you a musician yourself?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I have musicians, Yes, I'm singer and I work

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01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:10.920
<v Speaker 11>with runaway teenagers such.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you perform anywhere.

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01:55:14.159 --> 01:55:21.279
<v Speaker 11>I do nationally? Where Western US and Western Canada.

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01:55:22.359 --> 01:55:24.600
<v Speaker 2>And if we wanted to see like maybe a video

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01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:27.319
<v Speaker 2>or a YouTube, what's online where we could look it up?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, this will be coming out soon as soon as

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01:55:31.119 --> 01:55:34.000
<v Speaker 11>we shoot this. We just recorded it in Dallas.

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01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Do you have anything already up on YouTube or anywhere?

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01:55:38.920 --> 01:55:43.640
<v Speaker 11>I do have a little, a small website. We have

2244
01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:45.279
<v Speaker 11>trouble because they keep crashing.

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01:55:46.800 --> 01:55:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Who's doing who's doing your website?

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01:55:50.199 --> 01:55:52.520
<v Speaker 11>Well, volunteers?

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01:55:52.760 --> 01:55:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see, so you're trying to do it on

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01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:58.000
<v Speaker 2>a shoe string and you're saying, why does it keep crashing?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, runaways don't have any money. Yeah, So it's so.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you use your money? Do you use your money

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<v Speaker 2>to support runaways?

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<v Speaker 11>I use most all of my resources, yes, to make

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01:56:11.399 --> 01:56:13.720
<v Speaker 11>this happen. But it's well worth it.

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<v Speaker 21>You know, it's what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how long you've been working with runaways?

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<v Speaker 11>About forty two years?

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness? And have you have? You helped a lot

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01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:29.439
<v Speaker 2>of them get back into society and work and you

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01:56:29.479 --> 01:56:30.439
<v Speaker 2>know whatever.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, there's six million on the street, so you know,

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<v Speaker 11>I've only helped about just over four thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he wow, do how do you help them? Well?

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<v Speaker 11>First off, I've I've figured out a way to find them,

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01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:55.000
<v Speaker 11>which is near impossible nowadays, but we have a way

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01:56:55.079 --> 01:56:58.960
<v Speaker 11>and volunteers that help. The police can't find them. They

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01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:01.479
<v Speaker 11>only report if they show up at a crime scene

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01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:04.680
<v Speaker 11>or something, but we have ways of tracking them down,

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01:57:05.880 --> 01:57:10.399
<v Speaker 11>but then it takes a lot of resources. So I'm

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<v Speaker 11>trying to get more funding from my music so that

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<v Speaker 11>I can push that back into helping these kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever thought about being a nonprofit?

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01:57:21.920 --> 01:57:24.079
<v Speaker 11>Well, I've thought about that, but I've heard it's very

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01:57:24.159 --> 01:57:25.720
<v Speaker 11>expensive to set it up.

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01:57:26.279 --> 01:57:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Not terribly, I mean, there is some expense involved. It's

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01:57:32.960 --> 01:57:35.119
<v Speaker 2>not as terrible you as you may think.

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<v Speaker 11>But I also find that when I work with runaways,

2277
01:57:41.800 --> 01:57:45.760
<v Speaker 11>the damage has already done. So I've been doing children's concerts.

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01:57:46.119 --> 01:57:48.279
<v Speaker 11>Try to catch them before that gets that bad in

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01:57:48.319 --> 01:57:51.159
<v Speaker 11>their life, try and stop the tide.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize runaways was such a big deal. How

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01:57:54.359 --> 01:57:56.720
<v Speaker 2>old are we talking about with kids?

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01:57:57.239 --> 01:57:57.439
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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01:57:57.520 --> 01:57:59.800
<v Speaker 11>My, now they're down to about twelve years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And is it true that a lot of runaways become

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01:58:03.720 --> 01:58:05.640
<v Speaker 2>victims of child trafficking?

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01:58:06.800 --> 01:58:07.039
<v Speaker 21>Oh?

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01:58:07.119 --> 01:58:10.399
<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, yeah. They last about twenty hours at the most

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01:58:10.640 --> 01:58:13.960
<v Speaker 11>on the street, and there.

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01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Are people that are actually out scouting and looking for them.

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01:58:18.079 --> 01:58:21.920
<v Speaker 11>Oh, yes, but so are we. Yeah, we try and

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01:58:21.960 --> 01:58:22.800
<v Speaker 11>get to them first.

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01:58:23.680 --> 01:58:25.479
<v Speaker 2>So what's the what's your website?

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01:58:27.479 --> 01:58:32.399
<v Speaker 11>My website just for my music is music of Eddie ed.

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01:58:33.560 --> 01:58:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Done, Music of Eddie ed Yes.

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<v Speaker 11>I have samples on there. When as the kids get

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01:58:42.800 --> 01:58:47.039
<v Speaker 11>older and they get more established back into life, they

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01:58:47.119 --> 01:58:49.479
<v Speaker 11>get in their late twenties, they're starting to look back

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01:58:49.520 --> 01:58:54.000
<v Speaker 11>into the nineteen forties and they're learning who Sinatra was

2299
01:58:54.079 --> 01:58:56.760
<v Speaker 11>being crosby all that. They said. They want to find

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01:58:56.760 --> 01:58:59.800
<v Speaker 11>out how they had sixty year marriages, what was different.

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01:59:01.439 --> 01:59:05.199
<v Speaker 11>That's encouraging because they're they're lucky. They know they don't

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<v Speaker 11>have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Eddie, listen, man, if you ever want to

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01:59:11.479 --> 01:59:14.119
<v Speaker 2>explore doing a five on one three see to help you.

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01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:16.399
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be part of your music. It

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01:59:16.399 --> 01:59:18.920
<v Speaker 2>can be something separate. You ought to look into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people who do stuff like that. Three O

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<v Speaker 2>three seven on three, Tom, did you see what are

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<v Speaker 2>h A two?

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<v Speaker 6>A moron said that he'd be willing he'd be willing

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01:59:30.239 --> 01:59:34.079
<v Speaker 6>to volunteer to help this guy with his website because

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01:59:34.159 --> 01:59:37.319
<v Speaker 6>his company or any what he does says, my passion

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01:59:37.359 --> 01:59:40.399
<v Speaker 6>is also nonprofit, and my biz does websites.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he'd be willing to help them. Okay, why don't

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01:59:44.239 --> 01:59:48.159
<v Speaker 2>you get Eddie's contact information? By the way, people can

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01:59:48.199 --> 01:59:54.079
<v Speaker 2>contact him directly. It's music of Eddie ed dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real

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<v Speaker 2>Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three oh three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three talk zero three seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard that a lot of artists and estates

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<v Speaker 2>of artists are going after Trump for him using their music?

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<v Speaker 2>They want nothing to do with him. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Trump derangement syndrome, Well, every virtually every artist

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<v Speaker 2>of every song he's used, except for what's his name? Grant?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it proud to be an American? What's is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Lee Lean Greenwoodwood loves Trump and but but they've used

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<v Speaker 2>songs like y M C A uh in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump campaign, they use so on, hold on, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>coming uh. They've used other kinds of songs and the

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<v Speaker 2>artists say no, they will not give permission and they

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<v Speaker 2>do not want others Celine Dion, Snead's O'Connor's estate, the

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<v Speaker 2>like I said others. Now it says here, well hold on, okay, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Kid Rock is allowing it the use of all his music,

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<v Speaker 2>and so is Lee Greenwood. So those two are pro

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<v Speaker 2>well I'm not saying they're pro Trump. What I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>is they're helping or not helping. They're not opposing that.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Copyright Office has had a lot of complaints

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<v Speaker 2>and apparently there are lawsuits that are going on for

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<v Speaker 2>use of their music without permission.

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<v Speaker 5>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of them. By the way, My

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<v Speaker 2>Heart Will Go On was one from Selaindon. Nothing compares

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<v Speaker 2>to use Sinead O'Connor, remember her, she's dead now. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, Purple Rain the estate of Prince Tom Petty.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't back down the Smiths, please please please let

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<v Speaker 2>me get what I want. Now see that the Smiths

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<v Speaker 2>ought to let them go because nobody listens to them anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln Park. Uh, they they're pissed off for the song

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<v Speaker 2>in the end. Oh, by the way, I should let

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<v Speaker 2>you know we do have I know we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time, but our we do have lines

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<v Speaker 2>open a three O three seven one three talk seven

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<v Speaker 2>one three eight two five or three three Martino three

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<v Speaker 2>three six two seven eight four sixty six. Creton's Leatherwood

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<v Speaker 2>Revival says, no more using Fortunate Son. We don't want it.

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<v Speaker 2>Neil Young said no, no, you can't use rockin in

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<v Speaker 2>the Free World. And Pharrell does not want happy used

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<v Speaker 2>for Trump Aerosmith living on the Edge, No Dice, rolling Stones.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't always get what you want. Phil Collins in

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<v Speaker 2>the air tonight, look at all these people. Wow, Guns

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<v Speaker 2>n' roses are out. I there's only so only two

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<v Speaker 2>artists so far.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're out to sing Happy Birthday, that's what we

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<v Speaker 6>talked about on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Birthday is out of the public domain. Elton John says, no,

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<v Speaker 2>go for Rocketman.

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<v Speaker 20>Well, maybe it's because of the industry that we work

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<v Speaker 20>in here, Tom, But it does not matter if the

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<v Speaker 20>artist says you cannot use my song. As long as

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<v Speaker 20>the Trump campaign pays the ASCAP fees, they can use

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<v Speaker 20>the damn song.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you sure of that? I'm not sure of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you sure of that? I know that there, I

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02:04:06.800 --> 02:04:09.600
<v Speaker 2>know that you can pay. You know what? We should

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02:04:09.680 --> 02:04:13.920
<v Speaker 2>explore that because I thought you need artists permission for

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02:04:14.039 --> 02:04:17.680
<v Speaker 2>specific promotion, not for you. See, when we use it

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02:04:17.720 --> 02:04:21.760
<v Speaker 2>on this show, it's not to promote me. It's there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called general use and fair use. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if I could even get him on the air

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<v Speaker 2>right now at a last minute.

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<v Speaker 20>If an artist called up and said, Tom, I do

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<v Speaker 20>not want you to use this song, it does not

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<v Speaker 20>matter the station pays for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, hold on now. I think though, when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to things like campaigns is up, there's a distinction. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have the Do you have the number for

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02:04:49.199 --> 02:04:54.039
<v Speaker 2>my IP attorney? Let me find him here and then

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<v Speaker 2>I can.

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<v Speaker 12>Give it to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Tom, for a long time you use a Beatles

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<v Speaker 6>song as an intro. Did you ever have any problem

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<v Speaker 6>with that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yes, all the time. That's why we changed it. So, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was more than fair you. Here's why even

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<v Speaker 2>though you pay ask CAAF fees. That's what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to tell Dragon, there's a there's a distinction between fair

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02:05:15.279 --> 02:05:20.039
<v Speaker 2>use and promotion that was considered. Help. I need somebody. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The Beatles didn't contact me, but the people who own

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<v Speaker 2>the copyright or who monitor it said you you they would,

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<v Speaker 2>they would nix us on YouTube now and then, so

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<v Speaker 2>we got nicked so much on YouTube, we decide.

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<v Speaker 20>That's slightly different there because then you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 20>internet fees versus over the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, so there, so there's a different lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to find out Mark Trenor. Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>his number, Kitchina Mark Trenor? If you don't, I have

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02:05:48.439 --> 02:05:50.560
<v Speaker 2>it here, I can send it to you. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask him real quick if he could come on

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<v Speaker 2>for a minute. But also, parodies you can get away

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<v Speaker 2>with under certain circumstances. But it's really a good discussion, Dragon,

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<v Speaker 2>because really you're right, there are what's called ASKEP and

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<v Speaker 2>BMI fees. Let me explain what that is. These are

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<v Speaker 2>like unions of songwriters and publishers and recording artists, and

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<v Speaker 2>years ago they knew that people use their music all

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<v Speaker 2>day long, everywhere, and they didn't have a way of

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<v Speaker 2>getting paid. So what people would do is subscribe to

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<v Speaker 2>as CAP and BMI and through a system of surveys,

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<v Speaker 2>these organizations would survey songs being played throughout the year,

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<v Speaker 2>and these audits would break out percentages of songs that

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<v Speaker 2>are played, and then depending on where you play them, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't really talk about each song where you play it.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what they do. If you have a bar and

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<v Speaker 2>you get a hundred thousand patrons a week, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to pay a higher fee than a bar that has

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand patrons. And if you have a nightclub that

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<v Speaker 2>has live music that has you know, way bigger footprint,

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<v Speaker 2>and or you have a small club that has a

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<v Speaker 2>much smaller footprint, or a cafe, you pay less BMI

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<v Speaker 2>and ask cafees. Your fees are based on your projected audience,

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<v Speaker 2>your assumed audience, and the number of plays. So what

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<v Speaker 2>they do over the year is say, for example, help

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<v Speaker 2>the one I use, They say that's played x percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of the time in the world. They don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, but they estimate, so out of all the

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<v Speaker 2>royalties collected, they get a check for that part of

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02:07:44.680 --> 02:07:48.439
<v Speaker 2>the royalty. Now, these are not direct purchases. Purchases are different.

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<v Speaker 2>They go directly to the artists as intended. But when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to ASKEP and BMI for the playing of

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<v Speaker 2>that music, those are estimations based on audience size and

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02:07:59.560 --> 02:08:04.720
<v Speaker 2>percentage of times it's played. So more popular music would

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<v Speaker 2>be higher. And I don't know, however, if all artists

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<v Speaker 2>are belonged to that or not. I really don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how it works.

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<v Speaker 6>So Tom, what about if Okay, So if you let's

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<v Speaker 6>say you have h R FM station here, yes, play

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<v Speaker 6>songs right, and I have that in my office or

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<v Speaker 6>in a bar or restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where you get right.

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<v Speaker 6>You can where they're playing, or you have the radio on.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. You have to do it for it, really, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a radio on in your place of

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<v Speaker 2>business and the patrons can hear it, you're asked you

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay as KEPT or BMI. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>or they will shut you down, literally shut you down,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, take the radio or tell you can't

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<v Speaker 2>play it. You can play it for your own use

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<v Speaker 2>in the back room all day long, even when people

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<v Speaker 2>go to the beach If you go to the beach

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<v Speaker 2>and you have a kiosk selling ice cream and you

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<v Speaker 2>have a big speaker out there, you're gonna pay ass

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<v Speaker 2>kept and BMI. If you're laying on a beach plane

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<v Speaker 2>it soaking in the sun playing music, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pay it. You when you buy it, can play it

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<v Speaker 2>for personal use anytime, all day long. What you can

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<v Speaker 2>do theoretically is play that in two different places or

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<v Speaker 2>four different places with your family. You're not supposed to,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not supposed to play it for promotion. Go

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<v Speaker 2>Dan McKenzie for wills and probate estates avoiding probate, facing probate,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not here, he's at eight three three co plans.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to talk about counter suing, Maybe he can

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<v Speaker 2>chime in. He's an attorney, Mike, What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Tom, I'm talking about useless, frivolous, taxpayer wasting suits

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<v Speaker 8>like the United Autoworkers suing Elon Musk and Donald J.

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<v Speaker 8>Trump for a conversation they had on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, oh, oh yeah, yeah. You know there are

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02:10:29.840 --> 02:10:33.960
<v Speaker 2>so many people upset with that. Do you know people

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02:10:34.039 --> 02:10:36.640
<v Speaker 2>tried to shut down Twitter with the denial of service

2497
02:10:36.680 --> 02:10:43.119
<v Speaker 2>attacks or the service attacks, and also the European Union

2498
02:10:43.479 --> 02:10:46.039
<v Speaker 2>weighed on it and said they broke the law in

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<v Speaker 2>Europe by allowing misinformation to be out there about certain

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02:10:51.000 --> 02:10:55.840
<v Speaker 2>things on climate change. It's amazing to me how much

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<v Speaker 2>people fight against freedom of speech. It's amazing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. What were the auto workers talking about?

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<v Speaker 19>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>I think there were something disparaging electric vehicles. There's got

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02:11:10.880 --> 02:11:13.640
<v Speaker 8>to be a there's got to be a counter suit.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute here, why would Musk disparage electric vehicles?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think he was but you know, or maybe

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<v Speaker 8>he's climate change, you know, and okay Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think it was climate change. People were really

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<v Speaker 2>up in arms on climate change. But I don't know

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02:11:33.640 --> 02:11:38.479
<v Speaker 2>what the auto workers were upset about. But in any case,

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<v Speaker 2>what were you talking about? Counter sewing?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, counter sewing for a frivolous time wasting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's not wasting your time. You're not you're

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<v Speaker 2>not a party to it to sue them, Well you.

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<v Speaker 8>Are if your Donald Trump and you're being sued by

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<v Speaker 8>UAW and Musk. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not getting you're saying that if these people

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<v Speaker 2>are suing Trump or Musk somehow you're damaged by it.

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<v Speaker 5>No, not me.

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<v Speaker 8>They they the party. They're the party named Musk and Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So you want to know can they counter sue them?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>It should be able to.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually, I guess anyone can countersue anyone. I never

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<v Speaker 2>really understood fully the countersuit thing. Dan mackenzie in general,

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<v Speaker 2>a counter suit, what does that mean? Someone sues you

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<v Speaker 2>and you sue them back. I mean, is that what

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<v Speaker 2>that means by counter suit?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but would you sue them back for the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing or do you sue them back for suing you?

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<v Speaker 2>Or mean, what is it really you're suing.

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<v Speaker 18>You can't sue them for suing you, but you might

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<v Speaker 18>have your own claims saying that they damaged you somehow,

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<v Speaker 18>so you kind of have to. I mean, it's very complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>Judges must hate them.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, it always happens. You know, we'll say to

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<v Speaker 18>this person, you're probably gonna get countersuits and just fy

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<v Speaker 18>you could walk out of this thing losing and actually

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<v Speaker 18>owe them money. You got to take that into account

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<v Speaker 18>before you see somebody. But it's pretty complicated as far

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<v Speaker 18>as like do you have to bring the claims because

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<v Speaker 18>you can't have related claims to the incident that you

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<v Speaker 18>got sued for. Not bring them and then wait to

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<v Speaker 18>see what happens and then see the people again, because

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<v Speaker 18>the lord's gonna say like, hey, you could have brought

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<v Speaker 18>those claims. We could have resolved all this previously. Why

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<v Speaker 18>didn't you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, by the way, Alan, this is not it's not

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<v Speaker 2>really a lawsuit. They're bringing labor charges. I just looked

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<v Speaker 2>it up against Trump and Musk after threatening workers, It

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<v Speaker 2>says the United Auto Workers Union filed federal labor charges.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a lawsuit. Yeah, and it says threatening they

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<v Speaker 2>were intimidating workers during Trump's interview with it said that

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<v Speaker 2>they made some remarks and workers felt intimidated. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what that means. It says, I look at what

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<v Speaker 2>you do. You walk in and just say you want

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<v Speaker 2>to quit. They go on strike. I won't mention the

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<v Speaker 2>name of the company, but okay, So what they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>is people go on strike, should be fired. Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just venting about workers and stuff. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Trump said something about I don't know something about hiring scabs.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently apparently the labor people felt intimidated.

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<v Speaker 6>Well look what Reagan did. He kept his word.

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<v Speaker 2>He fired all of the charge. I know that, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your no, I'm sorry, that was Mike Allan. Allan,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go, Alan, go ahead, Alan. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>have a question on debt?

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<v Speaker 21>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 23>So I've been unemployed since March this year, and I

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<v Speaker 23>had some years I was unemployed before that during COVID,

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<v Speaker 23>and so I built up a fair amount of debt. Yes,

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<v Speaker 23>and I keep getting you know, obviously the companies know

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02:15:17.439 --> 02:15:19.239
<v Speaker 23>that I have debt, so they keep coming after me

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<v Speaker 23>and wanting me to consolidate the debt. And I've heard

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<v Speaker 23>you say before.

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<v Speaker 2>No, consolidation almost never works, almost never. But hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>there are some circumstances. I got behind here, but I'll

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<v Speaker 2>home with Remax Lions three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen twenty two to Alan Alan Debt consolidation only works

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<v Speaker 2>only if you have something to borrow money on and

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<v Speaker 2>the consolidated amount that you're paying is is a lower

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<v Speaker 2>blended interest rate. Do you understand what that means?

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<v Speaker 23>Yes, lower blended right, So if you have five different accounts,

2594
02:16:34.719 --> 02:16:37.840
<v Speaker 23>you're paying anywhere from twelve to eighteen percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can get one loan lower than that blended

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02:16:41.239 --> 02:16:45.799
<v Speaker 2>rate you will be financially ahead. If you don't, then

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<v Speaker 2>take those cards you've just paid off and start using

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<v Speaker 2>them again. The problem with consolidation loans is people usually

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that. They usually add up all of their

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<v Speaker 2>concer volidation and then have empty credit cards. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the best way to do this, and you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear it, but if you're in a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>debt is to do a bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be glad to talk to you at length tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're out of time. Thank you for being here,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan McKenzie McKenzie Law. Save all your problems for me.