WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:06.679 You created everything, what put a powerful being you are? 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:11.480 You did these things, but now you're in a human body, 3 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:13.080 you forget the power you have. 4 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:19.000 What you do is what the whole universe is doing 5 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:23.440 at the place you call here, and now you are 6 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.839 something the whole universe is doing in the same way 7 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.079 that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing. 8 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:34.520 You're doing doing what. 9 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:44.240 Welcome to metamistics where you don't know what you don't know. 10 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:48.039 My name is Jonathan, I'm Sean, and tonight we bring 11 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:54.000 back Lord Byron Jest for the Wonder Wednesday episode fan favorite. 12 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:55.399 You know, we had to do it. 13 00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:00.960 Hell not much, man, Everything's great here in the great 14 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:02.039 Nation of Desiree. 15 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:03.560 Nice. 16 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:08.480 I don't even know what that is, but you're in 17 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:13.200 Uh it's not Nevada, it's Utah. 18 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:14.120 Yeah, I know something. 19 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:15.560 Yeah, yeah, Desiree. 20 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:17.640 You know that's what they were kind of calling the 21 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:19.959 whole area out here Mormon Country. 22 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:25.680 Okay, yeah, well yeah, I'm sure it's very interesting living 23 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:30.120 out there around all those folk. I mean to be honest, 24 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:32.000 every time that I've ever been in front of a Mormon, 25 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:35.359 they've always been the nicest people. Have you had that experience, Yeah. 26 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:40.959 Well, it's they're they're nice, but it's not like Southern 27 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:43.879 people where they're like friendly, you know, like they're nice. 28 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:45.840 You know, they'll make small talk with you and stuff. 29 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.519 But it's not like the South where you know, it's 30 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:51.599 just one of those things. It's it's it's a different culture, 31 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:55.280 you know. It's what where I live. Uh, they're a 32 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:58.680 little more prejudiced against outsiders than some of the other 33 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:02.040 areas around But where I live, it's like it's one 34 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.400 of those things where you can be Mormon and not 35 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:09.000 from Utah and to be okay. And to a lesser extent, 36 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:12.520 you can be not Mormon but from Utah and it's okay. 37 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:16.120 But you can't be both not Mormon and not from Utah. 38 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:21.360 Around here, yeah, not even that long ago. A couple 39 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:25.439 months ago, there is some old timer, one of those 40 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:29.479 old school Mormons, Utah Mormons, that hates outsiders. And this 41 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:31.560 people I think, I think they might have moved from 42 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:35.240 California or something. But this this dude straight up like 43 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.319 cut a hole in a tennis ball, filled it with 44 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.680 rat poison, threw it over the fence, and killed their dog. 45 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:43.719 Oh my god, just to let them know they weren't welcome, 46 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.000 you know, and apparently that's something that happens out here. 47 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:46.960 Wow. 48 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:49.000 But but not everyone's like that. 49 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:50.719 Some of the people are here are super chill, you know, 50 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:53.439 but there's some old schoolers out here that you know, 51 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:54.759 just don't take kindly. 52 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:58.360 Yeah. Yeah, well, especially if they find out you're doing magic. 53 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.400 I imagine very much be welcome. 54 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:05.000 Oh, I know, it's it's so funny too, Like, you know, 55 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:07.520 I used to think it was so lame people that 56 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:09.719 were like, you know, I had like tattoos and like 57 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:13.159 pentagrams are like visible and stuff. And but after like 58 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.039 living here, like I kind of get it now, Like 59 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:19.400 I definitely see why people would want to represent just 60 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:21.039 let people know, like, screw. 61 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.439 You, right, Do you have any tattoos byron? 62 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.080 I do. I got two goat heads on my chest. 63 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:30.719 I have six six six and dice on the inside 64 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:30.960 of my. 65 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:36.960 Yeah, I was, I was jokingly saying Satanist and then 66 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:38.199 you had to go six six six. 67 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:39.599 Yeah. 68 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:43.120 Well, so the goat heads, you know, because for the 69 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.000 longest time, and it's still a trend now, but everyone 70 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:47.759 would get like nautical stars or like blue jays or 71 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:49.159 like swallows right. 72 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:50.039 There on their chest. 73 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:51.919 And I always thought it was so lame, and I 74 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:54.680 was like, why don't people get something cool tattoo right there, 75 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.919 like some goat heads? And then I was like light bulb, 76 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:00.080 you know, I was like talking crap when I was 77 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:01.800 drunk one night and then I and then I went 78 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:02.759 and did it and it was great. 79 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.479 Hell yeah, I mean I can't really say anything. I 80 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:10.000 got superheroes on my chest, so there you go. Spider 81 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:12.120 Man and The Punisher. Those were two of my favorite 82 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:13.080 superheroes at the time. 83 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:14.680 Oh yeah, but. 84 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:18.720 Real quick, we also got those those mind folds from 85 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:20.160 from Jamie star Walker. 86 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:23.759 Dude. That was such an awesome pot you guys did. 87 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:28.600 And one thing I want to say that, you know, 88 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.399 like one really simple thing that I think really helps 89 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.199 tune keep people tune into their clairvoyants. Like one of 90 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:37.600 these simple little things that anyone can do. But start 91 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:41.519 using your night vision, you know, and stop using like 92 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:44.399 flashlights when you're out, you know, and stuff and and 93 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.639 and just let your eyes adjust to the night. I 94 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.079 For one, you can see better when when you do that. 95 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.879 And then two it kind of increases your clairevoyants a 96 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:52.240 little bit. 97 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:53.920 I mean like night vision goggles. 98 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:57.360 No, I mean like letting your natural night vision kick 99 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:02.480 in the lack of So what I'll do is I'll 100 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:04.800 close my eyes and then cut my hands over my 101 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.240 eyes for like a few seconds, and then I'll open 102 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.240 my eyes and then I'll. 103 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:13.040 Take them off, and then by then I'm like fully 104 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:13.839 adjusted and. 105 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:18.759 Fucking magic, dude. Yeah, So yeah, I actually, uh, I 106 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:20.759 tried it the first. I just got it. We just 107 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:24.040 got them yesterday. So I tried it and I sat 108 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:26.199 there for because you can't see anything at all, like, 109 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:28.560 and I was doing it with my eyes open, and 110 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:30.360 so as soon as you put it on, you see 111 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:32.639 absolutely it was pits pitch It's pitch black. 112 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:34.519 Right, well, stuff the eye holes in there. 113 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:37.160 Yeah, And but you know why, dude, and I and 114 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:40.879 I think I know why because after about fifteen minutes 115 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:42.879 I just sat there for like fifteen minutes. Of course, 116 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:44.959 you start to see your own, like I don't know, 117 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.199 shapes floating around and just different things. But at one 118 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:51.800 point I saw a little pinhole of light now coming 119 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:53.519 through and it was because I was I was like 120 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.319 turning it a certain way, and all of a sudden 121 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:57.560 there was like light coming in. There's no way that 122 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.959 this that light was coming from outside of the map, 123 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:03.439 because when you put them on, you see absolutely nothing, 124 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:07.279 and so I think whatever is happening was starting to happen. 125 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:09.839 And then as soon as I tried to like shift 126 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:12.920 my awareness to where that pinhole light was, it kind 127 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.839 of like went away. And I was like, it was 128 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.079 so impressive that I took the mask off and I 129 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:22.439 started like looking at the mask looking for like a pinhole, 130 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.480 Like I really thought that I was being tricked or something. 131 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:28.079 I was like, there's no way this is already working. Wow. 132 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:31.000 Yeah, And you know those things are actually they're not 133 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.920 even meant for, you know, seeing without eyes. It's meant 134 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:37.879 for like a completely blacked out meditation, you know, like 135 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:39.560 that was the reason why they were created in the 136 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:40.480 first place. 137 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:43.399 And it would be great for that. And it's real 138 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:44.120 comfortable too. 139 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:44.879 Yeah. 140 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.639 Well, and people, you know, have a hard time if 141 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.720 there's light or anything happening on the outside. They can't 142 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:53.199 shut off their mind, so they want it complete, you know, 143 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:57.000 complete darkness and everything. So that's the idea of those 144 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.040 things is that it does give you the complete darkness. 145 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:01.319 So just the fact that anybody is getting a pinhole 146 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:05.800 of any kind of light is it's it's not happening 147 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:08.959 in like reality, you know what I mean. No, I 148 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.439 mean not not reality reality, but I mean like with 149 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:12.879 your eyes reality. 150 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.600 With your physical eyes. Yeah, and so much so dude, 151 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.160 that I literally was like looking at it and inspecting 152 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:20.199 it and seeing if is there like a little hole 153 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:22.079 somewhere And I was able to see it because I 154 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:24.759 turned my head just right. But no, none at all. 155 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:27.240 So yeah, whatever it is, dude, there's definitely something to it. 156 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:30.079 And having your eyes open in pitch black, it's just 157 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.519 it's just better. Anyways, I think I'm gonna meditate like 158 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:34.439 that for the next few. 159 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:36.680 That is freaking awesome, dude. Yeah, I can't wait to 160 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:38.600 get my hands on those. I'm making a trip out 161 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:41.920 there here in like like three weeks. 162 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:45.560 So it'll be here, man, it'll be here. It's awesome. 163 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.560 Hell yeah. And did you guys shout out to Jamie 164 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:49.680 for that for shout out to the star Walker. 165 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:53.360 Did you guys ever see that experiment where they took 166 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.240 these kindergarteners and they blindfolded them and they spun them 167 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:58.480 around a few times. No, and they and they had 168 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:02.680 and then to see it could pinpoint north and and 169 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:04.639 like almost all of them could it was like eighty 170 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:07.839 five percent or something could really, but it's something that 171 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:11.519 you lose over time. And I'm sure public education and 172 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:16.040 you know, our diet and doculations and all that places. 173 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:16.199 Role in it. 174 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:19.519 But yeah, like a lot of kids are have that 175 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:21.360 innate ability to just find north. 176 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:23.839 Oh dude. You think about all the heavy metals that 177 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:28.279 are in our body through many things, right, not to 178 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:30.480 even call out one specific thing, but all the different 179 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:34.080 heavy metals, and you know, nobody's really doing any kind 180 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:37.000 of purge. You know, it's it's not even a common 181 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.879 thing to have any kind of cleanse over here. You 182 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:42.720 go to almost any other country, it's like like over 183 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:44.919 in Brazil, I know for sure, if you go over 184 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:49.360 to Brazil, there is like everybody knows to do a cleanse, 185 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:52.000 like at least once a month, like for worms and 186 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:55.000 parasites and heavy metals and all that other shit. Right, 187 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.639 But over here it's like, well, we live in the 188 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.919 clean place. It's like, look around, it's really not. 189 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:02.559 Yeah, I was dud. 190 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.960 People people outside of the West Coast don't even really 191 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:10.159 drink water, you know, like it's not nuts. That's something 192 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:11.840 like that I kind of got judged for when I 193 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:13.360 first moved here. They thought that I was like some 194 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.799 snobby West Coast person because I wasn't gonna drink like 195 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:18.679 tap water. It's like, dude, you might as well drink 196 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:21.360 toilet water, Like what are you talking about? You know, 197 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.919 this is a desert. This isn't like the Pacific Northwest 198 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:27.080 where it rains like two hundred days a year, two 199 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:29.600 hundred and fifty days a year. This is a desert. 200 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:31.799 The water is not very good here. And I just 201 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:32.399 couldn't believe. 202 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:34.519 I'm like, you guys live in a desert and you don't. 203 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:39.679 Drink good water? Like yeah, I was so shocked, you know. 204 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.519 And then who knows? I mean even with drinking bottled water, 205 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:45.200 Like even that, I'm starting to think, like probably isn't 206 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:48.440 the greatest for us bottling company. Isn't, Like, let's make 207 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:51.159 sure this plastic is the best quality, you know, so 208 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:54.559 that they're not just micro Now we got microplastics. It's like, okay, 209 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:56.480 just one more fating we got to think about. 210 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:59.799 What's messed up is the plastic for our cleaning chemicals 211 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:02.399 is much better and safer than the plastic for our 212 00:10:02.440 --> 00:10:05.840 food and water, you know, right, you know what's crazy 213 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:08.279 is I think DuPont actually owns the patents for all 214 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:10.320 of the plastics we use, so it's basically just one 215 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.440 company owns the patents for all of them, which is 216 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:14.559 probably why so many of the plastics we use for 217 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:17.159 our food and water are basically like made out of 218 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:19.720 a synthetic estrogen or like a mimics estrogen. 219 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:22.159 The frogs gay. It's a fact. 220 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.279 Yeah, I know. 221 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:28.200 That's another thing that's kind of bummer about Alex Jones 222 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.639 doing the rant the way he did. And uh, you 223 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:34.080 know because like especially like on the West Coast, people 224 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:36.200 people on the West Coast where the people that were 225 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:39.879 like bringing awareness about monsanto and floride and all this stuff. 226 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:43.519 The two counties I lived in in Washington, uh, Scadget 227 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:47.639 in Walcome County, Uh Uh, neither of them had fluoride 228 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:49.799 in the water because of the because of the liberals. 229 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:53.360 The liberals like brought forth all this uh information and 230 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.840 everything and fought tooth and then and so there was 231 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:58.480 no floorid in the water up there. I think Linden 232 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.039 had fluoride in and that up in Walkam County. 233 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:02.840 And that's a Mormon community. 234 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.960 The east of Bellingham, Like do they really care about 235 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:09.440 our teeth so much that they put fluoride in the water. 236 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:11.360 It doesn't even make sense, do you. 237 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:11.799 Know what I mean? 238 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:13.600 Remember, do you remember what I just said? 239 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.759 No one drinks water, you know, like how much of 240 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:19.000 that is even coming in contact with your teeth. You're 241 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.000 absorbing it when you take a bath and you take 242 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:25.240 a shower, you know. And yeah, it's it's terrible. But 243 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:30.159 you know, if if Alex Jones didn't do that infamous rant, 244 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:34.320 I think a lot more people would have been exposing atrozine, 245 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:36.399 you know, because no one even knows that what he 246 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:39.440 was talking about. No one even knows that atrezine is. 247 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.600 They just think of turning the frogs gay, which they 248 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:45.320 immediately compute as like being gay as a natural or 249 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:47.480 you're hate being gave you you know, it's just this. 250 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:51.320 You know. The same people that would have exposed that 251 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.240 are the same people that completely shut. 252 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:55.559 It out because of him, because the way he delivered 253 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:56.120 the message. 254 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.279 Well that's you know, the the the chemicals that they 255 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.039 spray on the cars and the bugs and all that shit, right, 256 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:04.440 that's that's what's the atrozine is made of. 257 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.679 Yeah, I forget if it's an herbicide or a fungus side. 258 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:09.600 I think it's a fungus side that could be an herbicide. 259 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.440 But yeah, apparently it's the number one contaminate in our water. 260 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:14.440 I don't even doubt that. 261 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:14.840 Dude. 262 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.799 Yeah, it's crazy. Well it does sound scary. And speaking 263 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:21.840 of scary, this is the Halloween episode. So this is 264 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:24.440 the reason why we decided to go full on Lord 265 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:29.120 Byron Jester because he brought up a few short months 266 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:32.519 ago while purgase not and said, I actually think that 267 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:35.000 while purchase not is, the veil is a little bit 268 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:37.559 thinner on that day than it even is Halloween. 269 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:42.679 I mean it, I wouldn't say the veils thinner, but 270 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.360 I feel like I get bet my best results on 271 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:49.639 that day, you know, right around then. But I'll say this, man, 272 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.279 since I've moved to Utah, like I'm really high up 273 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:55.279 in elevation, the air is really thin. The sun burns 274 00:12:55.279 --> 00:13:00.240 completely different, and uh, living up here, there's a completely 275 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:03.440 different color spectrum that the sun gives off. And when 276 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:05.720 right as soon as like I want to say, like 277 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:10.279 right around ten eleven, ten thirteen, like right when the 278 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:14.080 leaves really started turning color and getting ready to fall off. Man, 279 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:16.840 it looked so golden and so beautiful up here. Like 280 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:19.720 I said, it's a different color spectrum because because the 281 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:21.919 light rays hit different when the airs this thin. 282 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:25.440 Oh yeah, dude, it's so cool, like especially this time 283 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:27.960 of year, you know, during during the fall time. 284 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.080 It is I could I could really feel that energetic shift, 285 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:34.039 you know, this year more than more than any other year. 286 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:35.240 I could really feel it this year. 287 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:36.039 It was amazing. 288 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:37.960 It's something about you know, it makes the air a 289 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:41.879 little bit you know, thinner, and it's not it's not 290 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:44.360 holding so much moisture and everything, so the sky's a 291 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:47.519 little bit more clear and everything too. And uh yeah, 292 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:49.879 it's just my favorite time of year due is the fall. 293 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:52.519 You said that you found to shift the shift even 294 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:55.240 more so this year. Do you have any idea of why, 295 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:57.279 what would be the reason for that. 296 00:13:57.879 --> 00:13:59.639 I think part of it, I was just paying attention 297 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:02.960 to it. You Like, so in western Washington, there's not 298 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:05.879 a lot of like hardwood trees. It's pretty much all evergreen, 299 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.440 you know, so you don't really get like those beautiful 300 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:12.679 fall colors like you do like here, especially the East Coast, 301 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:13.039 like some. 302 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:15.080 Of the small towns, especially like small towns on the 303 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:15.759 East Coast, so you. 304 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:19.480 Have like those old brick buildings and all the leaves 305 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.399 start changing color just feel so magical. But but for 306 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.080 whatever reason, I just really notice it this year more 307 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:26.759 than any other year. 308 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:27.600 I noticed it this year. 309 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:31.120 I could really feel the shift, like like like at 310 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.080 the day, like the day that it shifted, I could 311 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:34.240 really feel it. 312 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:36.840 I think there's something to the smell too, like just 313 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:37.879 the smell of the air. 314 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:38.480 Yeah. 315 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:40.879 Sol, you know, I'm in Phoenix, and so we don't 316 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:42.759 get a lot of It's hard to even tell that 317 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:44.919 it's almost Halloween time for the most part, because a 318 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:47.799 lot of the plants that do live here are just 319 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.200 you know, the same color all year round. You know, 320 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.759 they live here because they can survive here with with 321 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:54.919 the lack of water and everything else. And so but 322 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.399 I can definitely tell like when this time of years coming. 323 00:14:57.399 --> 00:14:59.759 It's just I don't know, the atmosphere just feels and 324 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:00.600 I was different. 325 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:04.320 Yeah. Yeah, there's a different spiritual energy in the desert too. Man, 326 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:06.840 that's another thing. The desert feels completely different. 327 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:10.240 You know. I'm finally getting over not being close to 328 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:12.080 the water because I've you know, I grew up on 329 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:15.879 the Eastern Shore in Virginia, and on like military basis 330 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:19.080 and for the Coast Guard, and then on western Washington. 331 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:20.960 So I've been on the water like my whole life, 332 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:23.000 and it feels so weird to be landlocked. 333 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:25.840 Right, It's finally starting to feel normal now. 334 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:27.240 Yeah, you'll get used to it, dude. 335 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:27.919 Yeah. 336 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:30.440 Whenever we visit California and we're starting to drive back 337 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.000 home and I can smell like that desert air, you know, 338 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.600 I'm like, yeah, like, I don't know, I just love it. 339 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.320 Speaking of the desert, Speaking of the desert, Byron, have 340 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:41.960 you ever gone out into the desert by yourself and 341 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:42.960 done psychedelics? 342 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:44.519 No, but we should do that. 343 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:46.799 Yeah, we shouldn't do that. 344 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:48.679 We should totally do that. 345 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:49.759 That's a great idea. 346 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:50.320 You know. 347 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:52.840 I was thinking about it whenever he was saying it. 348 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:54.759 You know, what was it a last week or a 349 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.159 couple of weeks ago, the guy that we had, And 350 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.679 I was like, you know, it sounds cool until like 351 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:04.080 a fucking cobra or like a coyote comes up on you. 352 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:06.879 You know, then and then you're tripping on top of it. 353 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:08.960 I would probably scare the ship out of me, But 354 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.200 I don't know, Maybe you just get it and it just. 355 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:19.919 Yeah, yeah, the we have rattlesnakes here, but where I'm 356 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:23.840 at I haven't seen any. But apparently, like sometimes in 357 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.679 the summer they get ran over a lot because they'll 358 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.440 start like kind of like laying on the pavement for 359 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:32.799 that extra warmth, you know, because because they've kind of 360 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:34.879 like retained that heat and so so a lot of 361 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:38.200 people run them over. I found this dead snake. It 362 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:40.639 was like a giant It wasn't giant. It was probably 363 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:44.120 like two and a half feet long. Uh, it was 364 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:46.519 kind of thick though for how long it was. It 365 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:48.960 was green, really brightly pretty color green. 366 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:49.399 Uh. 367 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:52.279 Someone killed it right behind my house. 368 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.039 And uh, but apparently that I forget what it's called, 369 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:57.879 but that snake apparently eats rattlesnake. 370 00:16:57.960 --> 00:16:59.600 So that's a snake you don't want to kill. That's 371 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:00.559 a snake one around. 372 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.240 Oh yeah, but I was thinking about getting a couple 373 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.160 of some rat shots, you know, and just carrying, you know, 374 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.160 just bringing my gun with some rat shots. 375 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:12.599 You know. I'm glad you'll be there to protect us. Yeah, yeah, 376 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:14.039 we do go out there. 377 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:16.440 So this is something I've been wanting to do for 378 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:19.680 a long time. And everyone tells me it's a bad idea, 379 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:21.599 and I shouldn't do it, but to eat some acid 380 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:24.920 and shoot some clay pigeons, just pool and just seeing 381 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:28.960 the tracers from the from the little clay pelots boom boom, 382 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:30.400 that'd be so fun. 383 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:31.279 Everyone says. 384 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:33.480 Everyone says like, no, you totally shouldn't do that, And 385 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.519 I'm like, I think I'm gonna do it. 386 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:40.599 Probably magical. 387 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:43.519 Yeah, I think it'd be pretty amazing. And you know, 388 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:45.279 you're only gonna do it for a few minutes and 389 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:46.000 get bored with. 390 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.960 It, and then you know, I can just imagine though, 391 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:50.960 what that would be like, hanging out with Byron in 392 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.400 the desert doing doing something like that and then he 393 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.000 starts doing some magical spell dude, like I would. 394 00:17:58.440 --> 00:17:58.599 Yeah. 395 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:01.119 And I also have a bunch of have some hand drums, 396 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:02.359 and I got an acoustic guitar. 397 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:03.720 And one thing I like to do. 398 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.079 With my hand drums too is uh, I bring my 399 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:09.559 high hat for my drum set and uh, so, so 400 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:12.000 I played the hand drums. I'll have two of them 401 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:14.400 and uh and then it hit the high hat so 402 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:15.799 it almost sounds like a full drum set. 403 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:16.400 It's pretty bad. 404 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:17.240 Nice. 405 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:21.160 Oh yeah, that'll you know, And just a curiosity Byron. 406 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:22.920 How far away is Sedona from you? 407 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.240 I have no idea might be worth the drive. 408 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:29.039 I think that's the place to be right there, baby. 409 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:33.319 So I'm I'm on the northeast side of Utah. I'm 410 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:36.440 just like right below Wyoming and right next to Colorado. 411 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:40.160 Uh so it's all I pretty much just have to 412 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:43.480 drive south to get to Arizona. But where I'm at, 413 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:45.599 I think it's all just like highways, and they're all 414 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:47.960 kind of like interconnected, so it's not like an interstate 415 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:50.240 where you can just drive down really fast, because I 416 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.240 think I think it should be like a three hour drive, 417 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:53.559 but I think it ends up being like a four or. 418 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:54.279 Five hour drive. 419 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:56.160 What's the what's the name of that. 420 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:03.039 I'm in the U Dow basin u I n t 421 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:05.559 A basin. 422 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:12.319 Yeah, we're definitely planning on making a trip at some point. Yeah, 423 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:15.000 sooner than later, but you know, whenever that happens. But yeah, 424 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:16.279 when that happens, you will let you know. 425 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:21.039 Man. Oh yeah, and uh e a, he's down in 426 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:24.799 the southwest I think side of Utah, so we could 427 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:27.039 all meet up, and I think JS and Layton will 428 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:27.880 come out too. 429 00:19:28.039 --> 00:19:29.880 That's a good nine hour drive for you. 430 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:35.599 Yeah, I mean that's doable, but man, I'd be haggard 431 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:35.960 after that. 432 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.759 Yeah, you might have to come out the day before. 433 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:40.200 Just get a hotel. 434 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:43.640 Oh, I know, man, dude, Like you get these like 435 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:46.079 kind of like road hangovers when you drive along distance. 436 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:51.119 You know, it's just and the worst is like when 437 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:53.160 you're just sitting there and you feel like you're still 438 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.319 slowing down and speeding up and turning, like you still feel. 439 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:56.759 Like you're in motion. 440 00:19:57.240 --> 00:19:59.440 Yeah, you're just sitting still and last for like an 441 00:19:59.440 --> 00:19:59.880 hour or so. 442 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:02.960 There was one time where I drove It was only 443 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.200 a five hour, five and a half hour drive, but 444 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:08.039 we didn't start driving until like eleven o'clock at night, 445 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:10.559 and by the time we got halfway, I shot you 446 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:13.680 not I was starting to hallucinate. Yeah, it was one time. Yeah, 447 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:15.759 there was one time I thought an overpass was coming 448 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:17.319 and then it was coming. It was coming, and then 449 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:19.880 I was like there was no overpass, dude, Like it 450 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:21.680 was just in my in my mind, I was like, 451 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:23.160 what the fuck we need to get home? 452 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:26.880 And out here in Utah some of the roads are 453 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.880 like really like not well kept, and they salt the 454 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:32.720 roads and they don't use like the best paint on 455 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:34.480 them either. So you can't see the lions on the 456 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:37.000 roads either. Yeah, so you have to be careful not 457 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:38.759 to speed too much at night because you because you 458 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:40.240 might be coming up on a turn and you might 459 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:41.559 not be able to see it because you can't see 460 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:45.079 the lions, you know. Yeah, we're like Western Washington. They 461 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.480 were like fluorescent, you know, they like really pop out 462 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:50.319 at night, you know, they you know, but you kind 463 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:51.920 of need that in Washington because it's so dark and 464 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:52.720 wet all the time. 465 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:57.240 Yeah, just getting over the chat. Hey, I did want 466 00:20:57.279 --> 00:20:59.359 to say for the chat tonight, if you guys have 467 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:02.160 any question questions that you would like to ask Lord Byron, 468 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.599 just let us know. That's that's what it's here, That's 469 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.200 what he's here for. You know, it's one big community. 470 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:09.920 Ashton said, s up, the one? What do Ashton? Good 471 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:10.480 to see you again? 472 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:11.440 Uh? 473 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.240 And Benjamin said, hello, the one. I love. It's just understood, 474 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:16.079 the one. 475 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:17.680 You know, the one. 476 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:20.160 And also, I mean, what if we just looked at 477 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:23.599 not even just the our group of listeners as the one. Dude, 478 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:25.519 if it's all the one, what if you just like 479 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:27.759 went up to your mom and was like what up one, 480 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.759 you know what I mean, or like something like that, 481 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:34.839 like I I yeah, yeah, although she might be like 482 00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:36.920 what drugs are they giving you nowadays? 483 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:42.920 So apparently san Pedro grows out here and apparently. 484 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:45.279 It's legal san Pedro. 485 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:52.039 Yeah yeah, and it's like peote yea yeah POI has 486 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:55.400 a stronger concentrate of mescaline and San Pedro has a 487 00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:58.480 little bit of a broader spectrum of other flanesthyl means. 488 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:00.759 Oh shit, have you done it? 489 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:04.480 No? So I really I really want to track this 490 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:05.759 stuff down and get out in the. 491 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:08.480 Yeah, I get real weirdy. 492 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:11.480 Yeah, man, I'll be ready, dude, I would love it. 493 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:13.119 And you know, I've I've actually been doing a lot 494 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:16.559 of thinking about doing d MT again and I think 495 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:19.119 I'm ready, you know, like I think it's just that time. 496 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:21.839 And it just took me a long time, dude. It 497 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.839 like I had to figure out whatever I whatever I saw, 498 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:29.000 you know, it had to go through some kind of filter, 499 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:31.920 not even a filter. It like entered into me like 500 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.759 it was some kind of parasite and then it ate 501 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.680 its way out of me and now I am that parasite. 502 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:42.759 You know. It's h Yeah, you know, one of the 503 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:45.000 problems with d MT, especially when you smoke it, is 504 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:49.119 it's it's so fast, you know, and the first like 505 00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:53.039 part of the there you're like just totally in astonishment, 506 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:54.880 and right when you start getting used to it and 507 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:57.440 you started getting all these like real downloads, it just 508 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:01.119 goes away, like right when you start having the breakthrough, 509 00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:02.240 it goes away. 510 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:05.359 See, I'm a little I'm still a little bit hesitant 511 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:08.400 for the d M T REALM not. I just feel 512 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:10.440 like the one thing I'm scared of is is coming 513 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:13.759 back changed, but like in the negative, you know what 514 00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:17.680 I mean, for having a super positive you know, transformation 515 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:20.440 and like seeing things in just like the greatest way possible. 516 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:23.160 But yeah, it's like once you go there, you can't 517 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:25.680 un goo there, you know. And so and then of 518 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:28.599 course after Jonathan's experience, I think, you know, that was 519 00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:30.599 kind of like a little wake up call. It's like, oh, 520 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.039 you know what I mean. But yeah, you know, the. 521 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:35.799 Weird thing with DMT is it it feels for how 522 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:39.759 intense it is, it feels insanely normal, you know. 523 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:40.400 Familiar. 524 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:44.119 Yeah, Like like it literally feels like you're going back 525 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:46.920 to Grandma's house to visit, like like like it just 526 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:52.119 feels so normal and familiar, you know. So, yeah, I 527 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:53.240 don't think I'll have that problem with. 528 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:57.480 It, Okay, Yeah, I actually I actually do really like 529 00:23:57.799 --> 00:23:59.880 especially that first time I did it, Man, it really 530 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:04.000 it felt so familiar, dude. And that's what I loved 531 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:06.839 about it is that you know, you're you're not bound 532 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:09.440 to just the human flesh and the human bones, and 533 00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:12.200 the aches and the headaches and the and you know, 534 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.359 just the regular every day I gotta go to work, 535 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:17.480 I gotta do this, I gotta do that. Like you're 536 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:21.440 put into a place where you're absolutely free like that. 537 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:25.759 There's nothing like that, Like it is more relaxing than sleep, 538 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:29.599 more inviting than a hug from your grandma, more really 539 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.400 like it is the best of everything like that. There's 540 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:36.359 there's nothing that can compare. And I've often, you know, 541 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:39.279 I've felt guilty in the past whenever I've like said, dude, 542 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.519 it's there is no feeling that could ever compare to that. 543 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:47.720 Like all around, it is top notch, and you know, 544 00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:50.000 the certain things that you figure out while you're in there, 545 00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:52.440 I mean, it is just and it comes to you 546 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.480 so easily, almost as if like you had to shift 547 00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.160 your antenna a little bit, and that DMT or whatever 548 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:02.799 psychedelic it is, is shifted that antenna so much so 549 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:05.839 that you could receive natural information that you would have 550 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:09.000 if you hadn't have shifted the antenna so far to 551 00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:10.880 the one way in the first place kind of. 552 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:14.200 Thing, you know. Yeah, Yeah, and I imagine that there 553 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:17.319 is a feeling of that oneness and everything else. I 554 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:19.680 wish that that was something that and maybe for some 555 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.160 people it is this way, but you know, you come 556 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.240 out of that and now you're just like you have 557 00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:28.480 this extra bit of interconnectiveness to everybody, you know. But 558 00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:31.039 I feel like that's something that, just like everything else, 559 00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:33.400 you know, you have a mystical experience, and the next 560 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.640 day or two maybe you're like having like an extra 561 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.759 couple levels of compassion for people, and then that kind 562 00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:42.319 of fades and then you're dealing with your own shit 563 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:44.640 and so but that would be really amazing if that 564 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:47.119 was something that just kind of stuck with you. 565 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.599 Yeah, you know, that's something you see like on the 566 00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:52.160 West Coast a lot, because psychedelics are such a big 567 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:55.359 part of the West Coast. West Coast culture and like 568 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:58.480 the whole spiritual experience out there but there's a lot 569 00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:01.599 of people that they have these huge breakthroughs and then 570 00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:06.119 it just kind of goes away, you know, and yeah, 571 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.720 that's it's something you see. And then another pitfall is 572 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:12.119 some people rely on it to have those experiences. And 573 00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.960 that's the other problem, you know, instead of having an 574 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.440 actual spiritual practice, they kind of supplement it with. 575 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:21.119 Partying, right, so you know, you kind of think you're becoming. 576 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:23.119 More enlightened than you are, and you're probably more enlightened 577 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:28.440 than like, you know, like you know, some some miserable person, you. 578 00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:33.039 Know, m h. But I think, yeah, I just think 579 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.559 that most people probably think that those mystical experiences without 580 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.960 some type of substances probably not even that like easy 581 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:43.680 to achieve, you know. And it's like it's very possible. 582 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:45.880 We've all had them, you know, but it's just a 583 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.920 matter of kind of staying in there and staying in 584 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:51.279 a in a longer meditation or you know what I mean, 585 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.880 maybe have the mind fold and just stay in the 586 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.400 pitch dark for an hour listening to you know what 587 00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:58.319 I'm saying four hundred and thirty two hertz or whatever 588 00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:00.599 it is. But there's definitely things that are that are 589 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:02.000 possible dude. 590 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.839 Yes, Actually, it's just hard to get the good information. 591 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:05.759 It's hard to find, you know. 592 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:10.319 The spiritual scene is just so oversaturated with crap. Everything's 593 00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.200 oversaturated with crap now because of the Internet, and it's 594 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:15.119 it's just hard to find the good stuff, you know. 595 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.880 And then and then how many people can afford the 596 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.400 time to put in the you know, that's the other things. 597 00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:23.319 Most people are just broken down from working and yeah, 598 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:24.680 family and all that. 599 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:26.720 Well, as far as the good stuff goes, I feel 600 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.319 like the good stuff is the experience that you yourself has. 601 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.519 You know, you can listen to Jonathan or or you 602 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.440 you know Byron, you know about your own experiences and 603 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:38.400 this and that, but it's like the experiences that you 604 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:41.079 have firsthand, that you experienced, that you know for a 605 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.160 fact is real, and that it's almost hard to explain 606 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.119 the that's the good stuff, you know. And that's across 607 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.640 the board, any religion, any culture of whatever it is. 608 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:55.160 Dude. Speaking of that, there is a there's a I 609 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.920 think it's a TikTok or an Instagram. Yeah, it's an 610 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:02.640 Instagram channel and it's become one of my favorites. It 611 00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:07.720 is called trip Whip Acid, but Dude, every time I 612 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.160 listened to it, there's this guy that just talks about 613 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.640 like people that have these crazy breakthrough stories. And I 614 00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:17.240 listened to this one earlier today, and holy shit, it 615 00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:21.039 is so crazy. So this guy, he took five grams 616 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:24.200 of mushrooms, right, and he had one of the craziest 617 00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:29.920 experiences ever even remembered, let alone told So, let's check 618 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:30.759 it out, dude. 619 00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.640 Reports I've ever read, because it's a perfect example of 620 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.960 how mushrooms can change your life. For this was the 621 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.880 author's highest dose he'd ever taken, which was five grams, 622 00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.720 and for it, he decided to meditate in silent darkness. 623 00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:44.799 Going into this, he said he was confident and had 624 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.160 no fear, but that wasn't going to last long. After 625 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.759 meditating for about twenty minutes, he felt the effects kick 626 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:51.319 in and according to his wife who was in the 627 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.440 other room, who's at this time, that all of the 628 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.599 electricity in the country completely shut down. Suddenly he was 629 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.680 thrown into a state of nothingness. This might sound frightening, 630 00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.960 but he's he realized this was his real self, which felt. 631 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:03.960 Something like infinite love. 632 00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:06.359 The author says he realized that he was the creator 633 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:09.279 of his sober reality, and his sober world was just 634 00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:13.160 one of infinite possibilities that he could have created. With this, 635 00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:15.759 he said, he realized he could manifest any reality that 636 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.079 he imagined, and so he did just that. He began 637 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.359 creating alternate versions of reality and somehow was able to 638 00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:26.000 experience living multiple lives in real time simultaneously. Apparently, he 639 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.119 continued creating these worlds and then living inside them for 640 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.279 what felt like centuries, and that's when things took a 641 00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.759 turn for the worse. While living out these lives he 642 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.880 was manifesting, he would remember that it was all his creation, 643 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.200 and everybody in it felt imagined. He began to panic 644 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.960 because no matter what reality he created for himself, he 645 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:46.680 couldn't shake the terrifying feeling of deep loneliness. Everything he'd 646 00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.799 ever experienced, including his sober life, seemed to be a 647 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.680 product of his imagination. Suddenly, he woke up and was 648 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:54.920 unable to see. The trip seemed to be over, but 649 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:58.400 something had gone terribly wrong, leaving the author blind. He 650 00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:01.839 says he continued living out as life as a blind person, 651 00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.480 but when he realized that this side effect wasn't going 652 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.400 to wear off, he was overwhelmed with regret and panic. 653 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.440 This overwhelming feeling caused his reality to dissolve, and he 654 00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:13.319 returned to the infinite void, where he realized he was 655 00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.000 still inside the trip. But that's when he says he 656 00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.559 experienced the scariest realization of all, because it'd becomes something 657 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.240 like God, and God itself cannot die. He would be 658 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:24.720 forced to live in the state for the rest of eternity. 659 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:28.000 After apparently spending centuries in this state, he finally had 660 00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:30.960 an idea. He remembered his old life before the trip 661 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.920 had started, and he decided he'd manifested again, but this 662 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:36.319 time he'd do everything he could to forget that he 663 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.480 was the creator. First, he created light, then manifested the 664 00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:41.880 room that he'd started tripping in, and finally his wife 665 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.079 appeared before him, and rather than feeling empty or imagined, 666 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.720 she seemed to embody the energy of God as well 667 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.119 as she helped him out of the room. He was 668 00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:51.880 doing his best to actnormal and pretend that he hadn't 669 00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:54.200 manifested this world, but when he left the room, other 670 00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:56.599 than his wife, there was nothing but an emptiness. Even 671 00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.440 his body didn't exist. The vividness of this world was fading, 672 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.559 and he could feel himself returning to the void. He 673 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.319 quickly imagined his body as well as the outside rooms 674 00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:06.920 and focused all of his attention on the objects that 675 00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:09.559 he'd created, and more he focused the really they felt, 676 00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:11.680 and he could feel what he called his real self 677 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:14.359 fading away. And once he'd completely returned to the world 678 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.559 that he wants knew, apparently all of the power in 679 00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.160 the city returned and the lights in the house turned on. 680 00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.000 He was left with an overwhelming feeling of love and 681 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.880 a belief that infinite love is so powerful and deep 682 00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:27.720 that it can't be handled if you have fears, attachments, 683 00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.279 or any negative aspects in your subconscious mind. 684 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:34.759 He ended by dude, Oh my god, is that crazy? 685 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.039 Or what? You know? The feeling that you get right 686 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.359 before you take some some for rako, Like you know 687 00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:41.880 it's going to be fun, but you're still a little 688 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.799 bit nervous, right, Like that's the feeling I got just 689 00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.079 listening to that story, I know. Can you imagine like 690 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.400 waking up finally and you're blind, you know what I mean? 691 00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.039 You think that you're out of the trip, and then 692 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.400 you're who knows how long It felt like he was 693 00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.000 in that state before he went back into the void 694 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.200 and then everything else played out. 695 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:03.440 And that was just five grams of mushrooms. 696 00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:04.359 Oh my god. 697 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.319 You know, so that wasn't even like DMT or anything 698 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:12.200 like super crazy, and so yeah, it's pretty crazy. But 699 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.359 I also thought that it was interesting because it said 700 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.119 that he the guy that experienced that he was author. 701 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:19.119 He was an author, so he was writing books and 702 00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:21.720 all this kind of stuff, So you imagine what is 703 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.680 already going on in his mind on a regular basis, 704 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:29.079 and then whenever he gets there, he convinces himself that 705 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:32.400 like all of the things, right, Like, he convinced himself 706 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:35.839 that reality didn't exist and he was just making everything 707 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:39.599 up and put himself in the void for centuries and 708 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.839 then literally convinced himself that he was blind and lived 709 00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:46.160 that way for forever. And it was like, man, the 710 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:49.640 craziest things happened, dude. And I don't know what it is. 711 00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:53.000 I think that I don't know, Byron, what do you 712 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.920 do You think that there's a little there's a little 713 00:32:55.960 --> 00:33:00.480 bit of a mix of the subconscious with with therooms 714 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:02.720 that you're coming in contact with, Like, how do you 715 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.640 think the psychology of all that works? 716 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.400 Yeah, I mean, it's definitely you're subconscious. Y's definitely playing 717 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.839 a role in it. But you know, I think some 718 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.319 of the experience is external, you know, especially with the 719 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.880 MT you know, so so I don't think it's just 720 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.400 your subconscious when it comes to some of the stuff. 721 00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.559 You know, I think it's the uh, the greater part 722 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:26.079 of the realm. 723 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:27.000 Yo. 724 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.920 I agree. I think that whatever is going on in 725 00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.279 a psychedelic trip is the same exact thing that's going 726 00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:34.839 on in a dream, you know, if you really think 727 00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:38.079 about it, Like it's very similar as far as especially 728 00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:40.200 the deeper ones like that where you forget that you're 729 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:42.160 even a person and you think that you deleted the 730 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.680 world and you know what I mean, like or people 731 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:47.640 that go on these wild journeys or whatever they do, 732 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.680 right like even with us, whenever we do whenever I've 733 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.440 done that for Aco before, There's been times I'm I'm 734 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.240 going into like I don't know, some kind of tunnel, 735 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.880 but it's so geomatic trick, and it's so exquisite, like 736 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.400 it's so perfect almost like I don't even know, like uh, 737 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.639 like a mandelbroad set but times a thousand. 738 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.599 So much so that it's it almost feels impossible that 739 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.000 your brain is making that up, you know, like come 740 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.320 out of that trip, try to recreate that, try to 741 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.760 draw that, try to explain to somebody what that was like. 742 00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:25.440 And you can't even do it yet when you're in 743 00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:29.519 that feeling, that uh that space, it's just effortless, you know, 744 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.079 it just seems these impossible places. 745 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:34.960 Yeah, you ever had anything like super crazy like that 746 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.360 happen on a I mean, you've you're very famous for saying, 747 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.559 you know, if you don't do DMT forty times, then 748 00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.599 you're a bitch. But I mean, what is one of 749 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.599 the craziest experiences that you've had on that byron? 750 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:47.840 I mean I've had a few. 751 00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:52.079 I mean I've had a few, you know, but uh 752 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.519 I remember this one night was the first time I 753 00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.440 ever like binged on it, and so I did it 754 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.360 like repeatedly throughout the whole night. Would you gonna have 755 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:03.039 to do because I mean, when you when you take 756 00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:05.639 when you trip on like mushrooms or asset's like six seven. 757 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.760 Eight hours, you know, DMT only last a few minutes, So. 758 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.440 If you just kind of keep doing it, it's almost 759 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:11.840 the same. 760 00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:13.920 As like a regular trip by that point. 761 00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:17.760 But uh, I remember, man, like I'm sleeping. 762 00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.360 Finally pass out and my third. 763 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:21.800 Eye had a little bit of a headache too, man. 764 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:26.840 And but anyway, I passed out. I'm sleeping, I hear something, 765 00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:28.840 so I get up, go look out the pet pole, 766 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:33.079 you know, uh, look out the other windows. And then 767 00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:35.599 I go back into the bedroom and I see myself 768 00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.199 sleeping on the uh sleeping in bed. So I'm like, 769 00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:43.079 WHOA interesting? You know. And that was when I was 770 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:45.760 really like like, when that happened, it made it so 771 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:49.719 much easier to really differentiate like a lucid dream from 772 00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:53.360 like going you know more physically out of body. You 773 00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.960 know that that the that next layer to that, you know, 774 00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.599 so I was able. I was able to separate that 775 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.920 pretty well. So it was it was a worthwhile experience. 776 00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:06.880 It paid it paid itself off. 777 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.400 So when you realized that you were outside of your body, 778 00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.519 did you feel like there was like a time is 779 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.960 of the essence type of feeling like, I feel like 780 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.440 the one time that I that I felt like I 781 00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.239 possibly had an out of body experience. I felt like 782 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.039 once I realized what was going on, I felt like 783 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:26.800 there was like a time crunch or like a I 784 00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:28.840 don't know, it was really weird. It was very uneasy 785 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.920 almost Yeah. 786 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:32.119 Well, I mean I've been doing it since I was 787 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:34.559 a kid, so I think by this point I was 788 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:35.519 probably pretty used to it. 789 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:38.000 But I did go fly around once I realized that, 790 00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:39.400 you know, I was out of body, I went and 791 00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:42.000 flew around, you know, right until I woke up. 792 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.119 Yeah, there's definitely a sense of like for me anyway, 793 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:46.840 it felt like I didn't want to stray too far 794 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.239 or something. And then I also felt like, I don't know, 795 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.039 like maybe there was something around or I don't. 796 00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.599 Know, that is something I had to break. 797 00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:57.480 And that was something that took all especially when I 798 00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.480 really started flying and going really far away. Was that 799 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.840 fear getting back to the body or going too far? 800 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.880 You know that once you realize you can't go too 801 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:13.440 far and you kind of sever that leash, it's a 802 00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.360 lot better, a lot more effective. You know. 803 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.639 It's like an inherent limited belief that's kind of ingrained. 804 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.159 But a lot of the old books that were written 805 00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.239 on the subject back in the day, especially the sixties 806 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.000 and seventies and stuff eighties, a lot of them have 807 00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:27.760 this warning like if you don't get back in your 808 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.519 body before you wake up, you know, party is always 809 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:33.239 going to be missing. And they always had. 810 00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.159 These weird little kind of you know, and it wasn't 811 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:40.119 based in reality. But you know that that's a big thing, man, 812 00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:43.199 severing that leash, that self imposed leash. 813 00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.320 You can't go too far, and once you get past that, 814 00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:47.440 you can go a lot farther. 815 00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:47.840 See. 816 00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.039 And I've always heard that there was like a silver 817 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.719 cord attached to you anyway, the where you could never 818 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:53.559 go too far. 819 00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:56.199 You know, I've never seen it. 820 00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:58.840 I've like looked down because some people say it's in 821 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.599 the umbilical, people say it's in the back of your head. 822 00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:04.199 I've never seen it, man. 823 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:05.840 Strange. 824 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:07.719 Do you ever have a sense that you can't like 825 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.519 turn around, Like the one time or one of the 826 00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:12.880 times that it happened to me, I felt like I 827 00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.119 had to, like at one point, I was like walking 828 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.679 backwards for some weird reason. Maybe that was just in 829 00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.719 my own subconscious I don't know, But you ever experience 830 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:23.880 something like that where you can't like turn around and 831 00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:24.519 look behind you? 832 00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:28.639 I don't think so. Maybe, I mean, you have so 833 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:31.199 many dreams. I mean, I'm sure it's happened, you know, 834 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:33.000 you know, nothing comes to mind. 835 00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:34.119 Maybe I'm just weird. 836 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:38.199 You know, I believe that's something that would probably happen. 837 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:42.239 Yeah, yeah, Ashton said, Hey, y'all, question for Lord Byron, 838 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.159 what is the effect of having more or less dials 839 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.000 on your radionics boxes? I was hoping to order one 840 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:51.280 by Christmas, and if I could bypass the Etsy fees, 841 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:53.119 I'd be willing to send you the money directly when 842 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:54.199 the time comes. Thanks. 843 00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:57.920 Yeah, that's how I prefer it, really, and I'll hook 844 00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.639 you up. So, uh, what the what the dials in 845 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.519 the box is? You know, the the consensus is the 846 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.760 nine dials are a little stronger and and they're definitely 847 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:11.119 a little smarter, especially over time the more you use them, 848 00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.280 you know, because because each each dial has a crystal 849 00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:19.960 R wired to it. And uh, but you know me, personally, 850 00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:26.119 I kind of prefer using the the uh four dials. 851 00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.880 For for the longest time, the five dials were my favorite. 852 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:31.639 I mean, first it was the nine dials, and then 853 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.440 it was the seven dials because they look the coolest. 854 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:35.519 I don't have a seven dollar here, but I do 855 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.679 have a nine dial in the four dial uh, and uh, 856 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:43.559 you know I always use six dial ones for prosperity, 857 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.480 just how I've always done that, and I usually use 858 00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:49.199 the five dials for protection and stuff like that, but 859 00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:51.039 me personally, I prefer the four. 860 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:51.639 Dials the best. 861 00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.440 Now you know, now that I've I've been doing it 862 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.079 for so long, I definitely just prefer the four dials. 863 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:01.960 Yeah, where to set the dials to? 864 00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:03.119 Like? Is it? Is? 865 00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:04.480 It like an intuitive thing? 866 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.239 Well, once you get good at it, it is. 867 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:11.760 Uh so, uh okay, So I got my four dollar 868 00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:12.199 right here. 869 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:14.880 So the output plate is a stick plate. 870 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.719 Uh so underneath it is the copper plate and has 871 00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:19.119 this little plastic. 872 00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:19.480 Sleeve over it. 873 00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.360 And you'll just kind of rub your finger like this, 874 00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:24.440 or you're the side of your I like using the 875 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.280 side of my thumb. But uh, you put you put it. 876 00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:31.360 Whatever you putting you're gonna do on the input and 877 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.159 and start taking a minute to focus on it. And 878 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.480 then you start dialing it, and you'll fill your thumb 879 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:39.880 or your index finger whatever you're doing. You'll feel a 880 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:42.320 kind of skip across the surface, almost like the side. 881 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.199 Of a balloon, you know, like the friction. 882 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.199 Yeah, yeah, it'll just stick. 883 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.159 Basically, you'll just feel the skip across the surface and 884 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:54.119 then you just go and dial the next one. I'm 885 00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:55.960 not even trying, I'm still getting a stick. 886 00:40:56.599 --> 00:41:02.280 Ye no go yeah it take whatever represents the target 887 00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.800 or yourself. Put it on the output and turn it 888 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.840 on and just let it go, just let it rip. 889 00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:17.159 I don't have one, yeah, but uh, I like incorporating 890 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:19.440 it with magic, like I I uh if I'm gonna 891 00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.639 do like a like a spell. I guess I don't 892 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.320 really do spells, but I'll program a vigil candle on 893 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.199 the output plate and and just let it let it 894 00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.519 charge for like a whole week. So I'll like to 895 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:33.199 say I'm gonna do something for prosperity. I'll either do it. 896 00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:36.239 On like a Wednesday or a Thursday, or. 897 00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.480 Maybe a Sunday, but I'll just say Thursday for Jupiter, right, 898 00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:44.159 So I'll usually set the box on a Thursday, uh, 899 00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.679 and and probably on the hour of Jupiter, maybe not. 900 00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.239 And then I'll take it off and use it for 901 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.320 whatever spell I'm going to do a ritual I'm going 902 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.800 to do on the day and hour of Jupiter. So 903 00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:57.719 I like to go out for one week, you know 904 00:41:58.360 --> 00:41:59.639 which for Jupiter's. 905 00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:02.480 Thursday and so on. Those on the box. You got 906 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.159 the two panels right there up at the top that 907 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.039 you were pointing to which one do you put because 908 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:09.039 you said that you you typically like to use like 909 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:11.559 the Sun Tarot card on one of them, right. 910 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:18.079 Yeah, I like using terrat cards in general because they 911 00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.079 already have like a they're based on like basically an 912 00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:25.480 element of the skyclock and a force of nature and 913 00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:26.840 the human psychology. 914 00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:30.599 So and so everyone's in the tarot, even people that 915 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:33.320 aren't really in the magic or a lot of spiritual 916 00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:35.199 everyone has the tarot deck laying around. 917 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.440 You know, some people have like twenty. 918 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.199 You know, that would be me and totally, you know, 919 00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.760 it's it's really common for people to stack up tarot decks. 920 00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:48.239 But but so what. 921 00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:51.440 I started doing now is I'll actually just take the 922 00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:53.840 tarot card that I want to use, and then I'll 923 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:56.280 print it out on printer paper, cut it out, you know, 924 00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:58.559 and then on the back side of it all write 925 00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.719 what I want or make a thought form and uh, 926 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.800 and then use that on the input and whatever I'm 927 00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:04.800 using on the output. 928 00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.039 Oh that's a good idea. So you can really get 929 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:08.480 pretty creative with these things. 930 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:10.760 Then, Oh dude, there's so much cool stuff you can do. 931 00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:14.199 And all the machines have input in output jacks. Three 932 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.840 point five millimeter and put an outpo Jackson. You can 933 00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:18.480 connect them with other machines. 934 00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:22.079 You know, so when you when you were helping us 935 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.400 create MARV, was that on a four dial just out 936 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:25.440 of my own curiosity? 937 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.440 Oh no, I just made them. Oh no, when I 938 00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.800 when I programmed the necklaces, because because because I make 939 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:36.079 the servitor first, and then I'll program a talisman after 940 00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.880 the fact, so I'll program it in like a crystal 941 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.239 or something first, or some type of house. 942 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:44.880 But uh, I don't remember. I don't remember. 943 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:46.440 It's been a minute. 944 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:47.280 Remember which one I did. 945 00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.639 Yeah, it's been like a year at least. 946 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.000 Oh yeah, yeah, I think. 947 00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.920 Yeah, I have no idea what I did which box 948 00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:55.199 I use. 949 00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.519 To be honest, I feel I feel naked without this necklace. Dude, 950 00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.280 Like I'm literally I wear it every day. 951 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:03.119 I only dude had to. 952 00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.199 Yeah, yeah, the that that was a really good parcel man. 953 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.760 That was a really good one. 954 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:13.960 And then and then I have the other radios machines, 955 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:16.840 and these are actually my favorite right now, the little 956 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.119 black boxes. This is a vampire box, and just put 957 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:25.519 whatever you want to represent your for the input, whatever 958 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:27.679 is going to be your source for the energy. So 959 00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:31.639 you can use the sun. I actually started using the 960 00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:35.880 Kabba mecha. I think that works really well if if 961 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.599 you want energy for yourself or something like that someone else. 962 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:43.199 Yeah, and then you know whatever you want the output. 963 00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:47.719 But you can make thought forms with these, uh, and 964 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.679 then you can so you can almost use them like 965 00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.800 a regular radiotics machine, just a little different. So like 966 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.559 like for protection, you can make a thought for them 967 00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:59.480 that'll collect all of the incoming magical attack. 968 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:01.400 Put that on the inside. 969 00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:03.559 The filter will strip it clean as a filter and 970 00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:07.159 it so take the clean good energy life force energy 971 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:11.760 and run it through and then filter the dirtier, more 972 00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:14.840 unusable energy back to the input, and then take the 973 00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:16.199 good energy put out to the output. 974 00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:18.760 So you don't even need any knobs on that one. 975 00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.679 No, no, And I like these just because they're small. 976 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.559 They're tiny, they're slick. But I mostly use these right now. 977 00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:28.239 I still have like a bunch of my dialed machines 978 00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.000 like downstairs that I'm using, especially when I'm programming all 979 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:33.039 my candles and incense for whatever I'm going to be 980 00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:35.239 doing whatever. You know, during like if you have full moons, 981 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.840 no moons, you know, birthday, I don't know, holidays, you 982 00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:40.119 know Halloween anything. 983 00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.159 You know, Well, we go outside the desert, just bring 984 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.880 but on bringing at least one of them vampire boxes. 985 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.440 Yeah, and then these ones right here I like a 986 00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.840 lot too, man. These. Uh So the input is the 987 00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:56.239 copper plate, the output is the antenna. So just broadcasts 988 00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:59.960 whatever you're gonna do is basically a thought form amplifier. 989 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:07.880 And I had one client down in Australia. Uh they 990 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.000 were working through the cliff off and I think they're 991 00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.239 on the sphere of Mars, but she had that running 992 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.360 and then they had some painters come over and they 993 00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:20.119 could just pick up on that coming out of the 994 00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.199 the temple, you know, the magic room. Yeah, and so 995 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.920 I guess they were like walking like really far and 996 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.760 like hugging the wall to get around everything. Yeah, and 997 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.159 just yeah, they're afraid to even cross it, you know, 998 00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.119 but yeah, it was strong enough to where they were 999 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:38.519 picking up on it. Well. 1000 00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:42.079 Look, speaking of I mean, is there any specific ritual 1001 00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:44.920 that you do like to do on Halloween? Like, is 1002 00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:48.199 there like a specific Halloween I only do this on 1003 00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:49.920 Halloween kind of ritual out there. 1004 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:53.920 That you do not really uh, you know, I'll program 1005 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:56.599 all my stuff and do whatever. But I kind of 1006 00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:58.920 go by. It depends, you know, like if the moon's 1007 00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.599 waxing and waning, if there's anything in particular that I 1008 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:06.920 need or going on in my life, and then yeah, 1009 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.639 what phase the moon's on, what day of the week 1010 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:13.519 it falls on, you know, so I might like just 1011 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:15.679 kind of do it based on like if it lands 1012 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.119 on a Thursday and it's a waxing moon, might focus 1013 00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.760 on prosperity, you know or whatever. 1014 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.679 Well this year you got a waxing moon on a Friday. 1015 00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:29.440 Yeah, yeah, it's right before the full moon. Yeah, and 1016 00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:30.239 it's a super moon. 1017 00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.159 Is there is there is there a way like astrologically 1018 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.800 for us to look at it and go, actually, this year, 1019 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:42.119 Halloween would technically be on this day just according to 1020 00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:44.039 the alignments and everything else. I just thought of this 1021 00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:46.719 earlier today, you know, just because the way that the 1022 00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:49.159 the Goring calendar is or you know what I'm saying. 1023 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.119 You know, I pay a little less attention to that. 1024 00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:58.800 But when it comes to the holiday seasons that are 1025 00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:01.400 like offset, you know, you have like the solstice and 1026 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:04.239 the equinoxes, but the ones that kind of fill in, yeah, 1027 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:08.559 you know, uh, I care a little less about that, 1028 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:11.480 but it is supposed to be like when you know, so, 1029 00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.119 let's say with the spring equinox, you know, the sun 1030 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.800 begins to uh make its way up along the horizon. 1031 00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.280 So once it so basically so once it's like at 1032 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:25.960 the halfway point between uh the equator and the tropic 1033 00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:31.239 of cancer is uh, you know, that's basically walt furs not. 1034 00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:34.119 And then you know, for like fall, it's a Halloween, 1035 00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:39.480 and then you got I'm assuming, uh Valentine's Day is 1036 00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.800 probably supposed to be that holiday. But I don't I 1037 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.159 don't think those ones matter quite as much. I think 1038 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.960 the important ones are basically just the solstice and the equinox, 1039 00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:49.199 you know. 1040 00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:52.719 Right well, I mean, look, I'm trying to get a 1041 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:56.000 little trying to get a little crazy for Halloween because uh, 1042 00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:57.920 I'm not going or treating this year. 1043 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.079 Yeah, and so uh, I'll I'll say this really quick. 1044 00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.920 The more you start doing rituals on like the solstice 1045 00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:05.880 and an equinox and you know, we'll purchase. 1046 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:08.000 Not and uh Halloween and all that. 1047 00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.079 Once you start doing that, you'll you'll you'll be able 1048 00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:15.679 to feel when the equinox is even if you're not 1049 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.840 not paying attention to the date. You'll be able to 1050 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:21.360 start feeling it, you know. And same same with like, uh, 1051 00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:24.800 when you're facing certain directions to do certain spells, you know, 1052 00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:27.440 like North and everything, you'll you'll you'll naturally just kind 1053 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.559 of be able to know where North is after a 1054 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:32.280 while and just kind of just kind of feel it, 1055 00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.119 you know. So it really tunes into nature and creation 1056 00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:36.440 the more you do. 1057 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:38.239 It, for sure, I can't tell you how many times, 1058 00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:41.280 you know, whether we're changing directions in the show or 1059 00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:43.760 just making certain decisions, whether it was the you know, 1060 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.920 changing of the name, or I mean, there's been a 1061 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.400 few things, you know, on our journey that I feel 1062 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:51.880 like we just accidentally like lined up with nature, or 1063 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.000 the moon was a new moon and then we decided 1064 00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.000 to do something else, and that I feel like we've 1065 00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.400 just gotten lucky. But maybe not, you know, maybe it 1066 00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.719 was just like divine time in them in that way. 1067 00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:03.800 You know. What one thing I think is kind of 1068 00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:08.559 weird is, uh, you take the stock market, right, it 1069 00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.840 always spikes on a new moon and dips on a 1070 00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.960 full moon, right, but you know, but we but most 1071 00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.199 people do prosperity stuff on a waxing and full moon, 1072 00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.320 and like vanishing and negativity and you know, curse and 1073 00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.199 stuff on a waning and a new moon, so you 1074 00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:27.079 would you would also expect it to be the opposite. 1075 00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.199 But what is Yeah, it's kind of interesting, but yeah, 1076 00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:31.079 the stockbuck. 1077 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.480 And it's consistent when you look at it, it's pretty consistent. 1078 00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:36.199 You see it just kind of full moon, new moon, 1079 00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:38.639 spikes and dips, white clockwork. 1080 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.079 That's why billionaires use astrologists. 1081 00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:43.360 Yeah, totally. 1082 00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:45.760 Oh dude, it's a it's a full on real thing, 1083 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.000 and it's I just find it so funny that people 1084 00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:51.679 just completely disregard it. They think it's silly. I'm like, dude, 1085 00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.559 it's something in the sky even every night. 1086 00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:58.199 Even even a lot of magicians, like because of chaos 1087 00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.360 magic and that kind of framework, a lot of I 1088 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:03.800 wouldn't say a lot of magicians, but you know, there's 1089 00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:07.960 magicians out there that believe that astrology is all just 1090 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:08.679 a thought form. 1091 00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:10.960 It's just a thought form, you know. 1092 00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:14.119 When it's totally not you know, like the planets have 1093 00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.119 a direct effect on Earth whether you believe in it 1094 00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:16.440 or not. 1095 00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:19.239 You know, it's and it's it's profound, you. 1096 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.920 Know, right, Yeah, And it's as profound as it is. 1097 00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.119 I think, I I in the beginning would have thought 1098 00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:26.360 the same thing, like how much difference could it make? 1099 00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:30.519 Surely there's a physical interaction happening, even if it's just 1100 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.360 gravity alone. You know, there's definitely a physical aspect to it. 1101 00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:36.960 But it's like how much could it really affect anything? 1102 00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:38.559 You know? And then you start to look into these 1103 00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.519 certain things and you're like, oh, like there's a lot 1104 00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:43.320 more to this for sure. 1105 00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.079 Yeah, dude, I mean, especially if you do, if you 1106 00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.480 ever get your chart done, like an actual real chart 1107 00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:51.039 down to your specific a minute that you were born 1108 00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.440 in the in the place you were born, it is 1109 00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:56.960 so spot on it's scary, like and and and to 1110 00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.679 be honest, it's kind of both ways, like with with 1111 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.400 try topical and uh, what's the other one that we 1112 00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.000 talked to sideil dude, I mean they're both and some 1113 00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.599 people will say, well, you know, your tropical is your 1114 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:10.960 outer world, in sidereal is in a world. I don't know, 1115 00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:13.039 what do you what are your thoughts on the difference 1116 00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:14.840 between tropical and sidereal astrology? 1117 00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:20.719 It seems like, uh, the mass events that are planned, 1118 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:28.400 it seems like they're going by uh uh by zetetic 1119 00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.559 or whatever, not so tetic. What's it called Sidereal, not 1120 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:34.239 yeah Cidarial. Uh. It definitely seems like the mass events 1121 00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:38.840 are planted that calendar more than Tropical, you know. But uh, 1122 00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.559 but I think Tropical is pretty relevant. I I don't. 1123 00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:43.360 I don't think there's really much of a separation. I 1124 00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.760 think you probably pay attention to both, you know. But 1125 00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:48.880 but Tropical is insanely accurate. 1126 00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.199 You know, it's accurate. 1127 00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:54.639 If you think about it. I mean, even even though 1128 00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.000 like I'm more of a fan of Sidereal, I think 1129 00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.440 it makes the most sense. It's looking at the sky 1130 00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.760 as it is now, whereas Tropical. You know, it's based 1131 00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:06.280 on a calendar that was two thousand plus years ago, right. 1132 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.559 But the way I kind of look at it is 1133 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.199 is that it's almost like its own built in aggregre 1134 00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:17.480 of understanding whatever those you know, like whatever those constellations 1135 00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:22.679 were in the sky, that's that's almost built in agregorical you. 1136 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:24.760 Know what I mean? Like, is that regardless of where 1137 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:27.719 everything is in real time as of right now? Right? 1138 00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:31.960 Yeah, yeah, almost like like any egregor out there. And 1139 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:33.559 I'm not even trying to say that the sky is 1140 00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.519 in agregor. I'm saying that, like maybe the thought process 1141 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:40.920 of how to interpret the stars from two thousand years ago, 1142 00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:43.039 because you think about like all of that energy and 1143 00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:47.639 all those people that did any kind of astrology or astrology, 1144 00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:50.760 magic or divining or anything like that. Most of them, 1145 00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.599 at least in the West, we're using tropical so I 1146 00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:56.000 feel like that magic is almost seeped in there a 1147 00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:59.199 little bit. But that being said, I one hundred percent 1148 00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.280 believe that side. It has to be the true one. 1149 00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:05.000 Yeah, probably, I don't know. 1150 00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:08.079 You know, like the the planets and we're not planets, 1151 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:10.320 but the constellations are all in the same spot they were, 1152 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:11.559 you know, thousands of years ago. 1153 00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:14.079 They're all in the same spot. It hasn't moved at all. 1154 00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:14.599 You know. 1155 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:16.880 Well, there's the procession of the equinox, which is why 1156 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:17.679 people you. 1157 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:20.800 Know, I don't think it's ever been documented or calculated, 1158 00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:21.800 and it should have been by now. 1159 00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:22.159 I don't. 1160 00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:23.960 I don't. I don't. I think it's more of like 1161 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.920 a metaphor or something, or maybe an energetic shift. But 1162 00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.440 I don't think the actual stars are recessing at all. 1163 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:35.000 I believe they say, maybe long term, that there's they 1164 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.760 say that there's some kind of procession one degree for 1165 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.840 every seventy two years if I'm not mistaken. 1166 00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:41.880 Yeah, something like that. 1167 00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:44.679 So but even still, I mean, it's it's moving one 1168 00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:47.679 degree in your lifetime, you know what I mean. 1169 00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:52.599 What I'm saying is the spring equinox still happens right 1170 00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:57.440 when the sun reaches the beginning of Ares. 1171 00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:02.079 You know, it's always it's it's always been there, you know. 1172 00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:05.360 So for for us to be on the verge of 1173 00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:09.239 the age of Aquarius, the sun would have to be 1174 00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:12.440 on the equinox would have to be the beginning of Pisces. 1175 00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.039 And it's not right. 1176 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:19.480 So I'm still then, yeah, and you know, you know 1177 00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:21.880 that's that's basically like the lamb of God. 1178 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:25.000 When you see like Jesus with the lamb that's talking 1179 00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:27.920 about the spring equinox, it's talking about the sign of Aris. 1180 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:32.639 So so I mean, uh so if it was in 1181 00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:35.559 Aries back then and it's in Aries now and it 1182 00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:38.800 hasn't moved, not even a single degree, it's just one 1183 00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:41.480 of those settings. And uh and and they say the 1184 00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:44.199 same thing with the polaris. The polaris was supposed to 1185 00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.239 move and it hasn't moved. 1186 00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:46.480 Uh. 1187 00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:51.559 The o what was it called the uh Georgia guidestones, 1188 00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:54.280 there was a hole through that pointed to the North 1189 00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:58.239 Star and uh and it just points right to the 1190 00:55:58.239 --> 00:55:59.880 north so you can see the North Star through it. 1191 00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:03.960 And did you actually see the star trails when you videotape, 1192 00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.719 you know, but before they blew it up. But the 1193 00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:11.840 amount of time that uh, that that setup had been there, 1194 00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:16.079 the mood the Polaris was supposed to shift just enough 1195 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:17.679 to get it out of that hole, and it was 1196 00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:18.760 still in that hole. 1197 00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.360 You know, these these stars are fixed. 1198 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:24.239 Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know if it 1199 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:27.920 was because it wasn't up there the the. 1200 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.239 It was. It was some random guy. He went by R. C. 1201 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.400 Christian. He was completely anonymous, and he dropped a bunch 1202 00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:36.039 of money on it. 1203 00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:39.719 Real Yeah, totally totally random and strange. But I don't 1204 00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:42.440 think that those were those guidestones were not up for 1205 00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.880 very long to even go a whole degree. If it 1206 00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:48.840 is true that it is a degree for every years. 1207 00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:50.320 But by the size of the hole, it should have 1208 00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.679 been like two or three millimeters out of it. 1209 00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.159 Well, how would that have taken for that shift to 1210 00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.599 even happen? And how long were those stones even up? 1211 00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:03.400 They were up for like thirty five forty years maybe 1212 00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:04.599 longer they might have been up for like. 1213 00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:06.800 Like see, I wouldn't even think that would even be 1214 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:07.480 long enough. 1215 00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:10.599 You know, well, one degree is pretty large if that's 1216 00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:12.960 seventy two. So if a half a degree and the 1217 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.639 time they've been there, you know, that's that's enough to 1218 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:18.079 move it out of the way. And the thing that's 1219 00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:21.239 really telling as soon as people figured this out, because 1220 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:23.639 because no one filmed the star trail around it and 1221 00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:27.599 noticed that it was set to polaris set to do north, 1222 00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:32.199 no one noticed that until like. 1223 00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:33.360 Like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. 1224 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:36.559 You know, it was it was like literally just like 1225 00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.559 like a year or maybe even like six months before 1226 00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:39.159 they blew it up. 1227 00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:40.159 Did someone noticed that? 1228 00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:42.880 Right? And who? And who took it down? Do you 1229 00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:43.280 even know? 1230 00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:47.039 It was never it was never investigated, It was never 1231 00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:49.880 sawd it that just blew it up. And then in 1232 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.039 the middle of the night the guys came in started 1233 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:54.480 pulling everything down and just pulled it out. 1234 00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:57.039 Really and those of the stones that said something about 1235 00:57:57.079 --> 00:57:59.519 like this is how many people we should have five hours? 1236 00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.199 Yeah, yeah, that's five hundred million or something. 1237 00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:03.079 Yeah. 1238 00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:05.280 Oh well, you know what else is interesting? I didn't 1239 00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:08.639 know this, but it was erected. The Georgia guidestones were 1240 00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:12.679 erected in nineteen eighty, but the date is March twenty second. 1241 00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:14.519 Then it went up there, so three to two two 1242 00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:19.519 almost some Skull and Bone Secret Society show. That's strange. 1243 00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.199 And then it was and then it was taken down 1244 00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:26.039 July sixth of twenty twenty two. So there's see even 1245 00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:27.920 the twenty two's are everywhere on this. 1246 00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.960 Yeah, yeah, that's strange. I mean, who knows, dude. I 1247 00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:33.559 mean maybe there's something a little more malicious going on there, 1248 00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:36.280 or maybe, you know, space is just way bigger than 1249 00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:40.159 we comprehend. You know, the parks read it even happened. 1250 00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:44.000 The parks in wreck were getting really sick of dealing 1251 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:45.679 with it because people would just go there and like 1252 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:48.679 poop on it and peel on it and spray paint 1253 00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:52.440 it like people. You know, people were were kind of 1254 00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:54.360 better about the message of it, you know, because they 1255 00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.880 took it as like a calling of the earth, which 1256 00:58:56.880 --> 00:59:00.639 is you know, probably what part of it was. You know, 1257 00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:01.320 let's get real. 1258 00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:02.639 You wanted to get rid of the use of the 1259 00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:03.719 eaters and whatnot, you know. 1260 00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:05.000 Yeah, totally. 1261 00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.719 And uh so the parks and rep We're getting really 1262 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:08.719 sick of dealing with it. 1263 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:11.599 You know, they haven't left it for that long. They're like, 1264 00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:13.079 where did this thing come from? I don't know, but 1265 00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:14.719 we got to clean it now, you know, we gotta 1266 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:17.039 keep it nice. That's just the whole thing is kind 1267 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:17.519 of weird to. 1268 00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:22.599 Me, Benjamin said. An old friend of mine advised me 1269 00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:26.360 not to go with anything or anyone if I'm invited 1270 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:30.599 while out of body. WHOA have you ever seen anyone 1271 00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:34.119 or anything out of body, like anything outside of yourself 1272 00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:36.400 and your natural surrounding me? 1273 00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:38.119 Yeah? Absolutely. 1274 00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:41.559 Uh one of the more profound times, because this is 1275 00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:45.159 before I really started taking it serious. I was down 1276 00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:47.079 in California and my buddy was getting married. I was 1277 00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:51.559 staying at his cousin's house, and this is in uh 1278 00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:56.519 not too far from what's it called Laurel Canyon, right, 1279 00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:03.280 and uh so I'm sleeping on the floor. There's this 1280 01:00:03.320 --> 01:00:05.719 guy sleeping on the bed, the mattress on the floor. 1281 01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:08.480 Stir heads are kind of close, you know, like like 1282 01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:11.480 level to each other. But so I'm going out of 1283 01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:17.360 body and this it almost looked like a nineteen twenties, 1284 01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:22.000 nineteen thirties, forties, maybe even fifties maybe maybe not quite fifties, 1285 01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:24.360 maybe like thirties or forties. This guy in like a 1286 01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:27.800 black trench cover, right, is what it looked like. And 1287 01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:32.000 he was an outside entity. He was external and this 1288 01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:34.760 is different than a lot of random entities you come 1289 01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:39.079 in contact with. This This guy had like an object. 1290 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:41.440 An objective mission. 1291 01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:44.880 He was like almost like I don't know what he 1292 01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.840 was trying to do, but anyway, he came at me 1293 01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:50.440 and we kind of got into it. 1294 01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:54.239 And that was that. But so I don't really time 1295 01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:54.960 to got into it. 1296 01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:56.159 What do you mean? And that was that? 1297 01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:56.360 Well? 1298 01:00:56.360 --> 01:01:00.440 Like what did you get into this glazed over that? 1299 01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:02.679 You know? 1300 01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:05.440 Yeah, yeah, we kind of got into it. I was 1301 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:09.920 like throwing cars and buildings out of him, And. 1302 01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:10.280 Why would you do that? Did he give off like 1303 01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:11.280 a bad vibe or what? 1304 01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:14.000 Yeah, yeah, he was trying to invade. He was trying 1305 01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:15.920 to do something. He had like an objective mission. 1306 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:16.079 Man. 1307 01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.039 He it was really bizarre. I've never seen an entity 1308 01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:25.079 like that have I mean, it almost seemed like like 1309 01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:27.800 like a government mission, you know, like it seemed like 1310 01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:31.159 he had like like like there was a hierarchy above 1311 01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:32.320 him and he had a mission. 1312 01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:34.360 That was the weirdest thing about it. 1313 01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:38.159 You know, I'm sure they got him, you know. 1314 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:39.039 Yeah, And and. 1315 01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:40.800 For anyone who's out there wants to know how to 1316 01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:44.039 like pick up like large objects in your dreams and 1317 01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:45.519 like buildings. 1318 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.840 And stuff, is it's basically the same muscle as flying. 1319 01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:49.840 You're just externalizing it. 1320 01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:51.360 And at first you're probably only gonna be able to 1321 01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:53.239 throw stuff, but once you get good out of it, 1322 01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:54.039 you'll be able to pick. 1323 01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:55.880 Up like entire buildings and set him back down. 1324 01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:57.599 And then once you get really good at it, you 1325 01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.400 can like take apart a town and instead it up 1326 01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:02.280 into a pyramid and just sit up top there and 1327 01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:04.599 just meditate. You know, you can the crazy shit once 1328 01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:07.119 you get good at it. But it's basically just the 1329 01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:10.360 same muscle as flying. You're just externalizing it. 1330 01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:12.960 Interesting, we're learning techniques for the dream. 1331 01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:15.519 Oh yeah. So getting back to the story, man, So 1332 01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:18.280 I didn't think much of it. 1333 01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:20.199 I was like, I was, we already know, I'm like 1334 01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:21.880 trying to internalize. 1335 01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:25.079 It, and uh, the kuse sleeping next to a young 1336 01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:29.239 kid man he's like nineteen, but he was having some 1337 01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:34.239 mental health issues and he wasn't crazy. He sounded mind 1338 01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.599 so I think he was possessed. And looking back on 1339 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:41.039 I think the the apartment had some stuff going on, 1340 01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.320 because there's a lot of occultists down in LA, especially 1341 01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:45.719 like you know, twenties thirties, forty six is you know, 1342 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.039 they were kind of the New York in LA were 1343 01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:51.320 like super big hubs for the occult, you know, especially 1344 01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:58.119 parts of New York. But later on, the dude that 1345 01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:01.440 was living there, he got like high on meth. This 1346 01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:05.280 is like years later. He got high on meth and like, uh, 1347 01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:10.000 try to kill some people and had a standoff with 1348 01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.480 the cops and barricaded himself in. So there was some 1349 01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:15.760 there's some stuff going on in that apartment for sure. 1350 01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:19.880 You know, man, I thought he was possessed. I don't 1351 01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:21.679 know what I feel about. 1352 01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:25.000 That, well, you know, and I will say only because 1353 01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:27.639 I've I've had people close to me that got hooked 1354 01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:31.400 on that ship and on meth, and it is you're 1355 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:34.960 talking to somebody else, bro, like that's that person. The 1356 01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:40.800 original person is like barely in the corner of whatever 1357 01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:44.480 is at the forefront now. And and maybe it's I mean, 1358 01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:45.960 I don't even want to say it's a demon. I 1359 01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:49.159 think that it's probably some kind of alter alter. 1360 01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:53.400 Mind itself, the chemical itself is what's possessing that person. 1361 01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:56.639 Then yeah, but it definitely leaves you open for negative entities, 1362 01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:58.960 especially the people you're around while you're on it, and 1363 01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.760 then the sleep that the hallucinations, and it does also 1364 01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:04.199 kind of fragment you a little bit. So I think 1365 01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:06.079 I think it's both. I think that the drugs have 1366 01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:08.239 the effect that drugs have, but I definitely think a 1367 01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:12.079 lot of tweakers are are definitely possessed, you know, the 1368 01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:14.800 same with junkies, you know, always sticking themselves with needles 1369 01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:18.320 and sick and you know, torturing themselves with depression and 1370 01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:18.920 stuff and. 1371 01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:22.159 So leaving themselves open, so they're more. 1372 01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:26.039 Same with alcohol, same with alcohol. Man, there's some people 1373 01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:30.360 and uh where you can see their face change just 1374 01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:32.719 after like a couple of drinks, you know, where like 1375 01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:35.559 other people are totally normal, Most people just drink and 1376 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:37.960 they're normal. But but there's there's some people you can 1377 01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:40.840 see their face just completely morph into something else. 1378 01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:44.840 I think what's really no, I was just going to say, 1379 01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:47.039 I think what's really going on is is that people 1380 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:51.760 don't truly know themselves, you know what I mean, Like 1381 01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:55.920 there are there's levels to people in their personalities. And 1382 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:58.920 you know, if you don't know yourself, it's probably real 1383 01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:04.440 easy to become whatever you know is coming into your mind. 1384 01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:06.159 Like so if you're if you're taken in math, you're 1385 01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:10.280 taking in alcohol, whatever it is. I mean, it's almost 1386 01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:14.800 as if those drugs and alcohol or whatever are now 1387 01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:18.360 changing you in to a version of you that you 1388 01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:20.960 think that is you. And you know what I mean, Like, 1389 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:23.639 I think that it's multi leveled at that point, and 1390 01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:25.679 and I don't know, I mean, fuck, for all I know, 1391 01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:27.760 it could be demons. Who knows. Maybe maybe you are 1392 01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:30.599 opening yourself up, but I don't know. I like to 1393 01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:32.280 try and be careful with that kind of stuff because 1394 01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:34.760 people say the same shit with like a Ouiji board 1395 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:35.960 and stuff like that. 1396 01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:38.000 Right, Yeah, I know. I think you make a really 1397 01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.559 good point, you know, as Byron was talking about, you know, 1398 01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:43.760 when when somebody was drinking and their face changed and 1399 01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:46.719 everything else, it's like, so if they hadn't drink at 1400 01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:48.760 all for the next few years, it would have been 1401 01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:52.360 no possession, you know, And so it's almost like whatever 1402 01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:56.119 that face change, whatever that energy was, was already there 1403 01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:59.199 and has been there, and we all have that you know. 1404 01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:03.960 Or maybe they're are already possessed, you know because like 1405 01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.960 a lot of people, you know, like I grew up 1406 01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:08.280 in a house that was a funeral home. 1407 01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:10.159 You know, no one told me that. You know, no 1408 01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:10.840 one told me that. 1409 01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:13.440 You know when you saw like a spirit, you know, 1410 01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:16.000 walking down the hallway, that that was an actual spirit. 1411 01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:17.880 You know, they don't got to tell a child that. 1412 01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:20.880 But you know, so I had like entities attached to me, 1413 01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:22.960 and you know, I lit in that apartment where that 1414 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:24.280 chick hung herself. 1415 01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:25.440 And yeah, I mean. 1416 01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:28.840 I And then you know, you also a lot of 1417 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:30.960 people that find themselves in the drugs, like they don't 1418 01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:33.239 have a healthy relationship with their father or their mother, 1419 01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:35.920 come from a broken home. Uh, there's some type of 1420 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:40.000 childhood trauma going on, sexual abuse that's gonna leave you open, 1421 01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:43.320 you know for a negative attent entity on top of 1422 01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.480 the trauma that you're carrying with you. Then when you 1423 01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:50.119 open yourself up like that and your conscious mind shuts 1424 01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:52.599 down and your subconscious mind starts taking over a lot 1425 01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:55.039 of those it's like a hornets nest, you know, with 1426 01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:57.039 all those issues coming out. So there's a lot of 1427 01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:57.800 stuff going on. 1428 01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:02.079 Oh for sure, denominator. I think does come from you know, 1429 01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.280 not knowing yourself. Imagine being a super aware person. You're 1430 01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:08.119 really into your spiritual practice or whatever it is. Maybe 1431 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:10.679 you're just super happy doing your hobbies and you know, 1432 01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:13.280 trying to be the best person you can. I feel 1433 01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:16.360 like those people are probably way less likely to be possessed. 1434 01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:17.639 When do you think, dude? 1435 01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:20.760 I feel like and this is just a tiny, tiny, 1436 01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:23.960 tiny example, nowhere near close to like meth or anything 1437 01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:25.880 like that. But the reason why I had to stop 1438 01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:29.039 drinking energy drinks was because I started to notice a 1439 01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.559 change even within myself, and I was like, wait a second, 1440 01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:34.519 that's not me. That's not who I want to be. 1441 01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:36.960 Because I would, you know, my patience was wearing thin, 1442 01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:40.679 and I would get aggravated and frustrated and everything was 1443 01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:42.880 pissing me off, even the slightest little thing, and I 1444 01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:45.559 was like, that's not who I want to be, Like, 1445 01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:47.559 I want to have more patience, I want to have 1446 01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:51.480 more understanding. And so the idea of who I believe 1447 01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:54.239 is me is the one that has more patients and 1448 01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:56.679 more understanding and more love and all that kind of stuff. 1449 01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:58.920 So I don't know, I think that it kind of 1450 01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:01.280 just can't go everywhere. But if you don't know who 1451 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:06.280 you are, then like where's where's the balance? You know, 1452 01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:08.400 And and I feel like people don't have that bar, 1453 01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:12.480 Like not everybody, I mean, some people don't have that 1454 01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.679 bar to where they're almost unfamiliar with who or what 1455 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:18.239 they are. And and it's not by it's not even 1456 01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:20.119 necessarily their fault. You know, we're not taught this shit 1457 01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:21.880 in school. And as a matter of fact, I mean, 1458 01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:25.000 most people in this country bide by a religion that 1459 01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:27.439 doesn't tell you where you're from, you know what I mean. 1460 01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:29.600 And all that, but they that that religion tells you 1461 01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:32.560 that you are less than or you know, you're not powerful. Yeah, 1462 01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:34.079 So if you have all of this and then you 1463 01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:37.279 have also the Boogeyman of that of that board game, 1464 01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:39.520 if you will, is it a demon or the devil, 1465 01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:44.640 then you it's already kind of you're a born sinner, dude. 1466 01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:49.000 It sucks, man like those kind of like Christian narcissists, 1467 01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:51.680 the type of Christians that people just find annoying, like 1468 01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:55.520 it's such a problem in the truth community and the 1469 01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:59.199 way they alienate people and attack people because like most 1470 01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:01.760 of them a super true truthers that are like trying 1471 01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:04.079 to like do hit pieces and other truthers and trying 1472 01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:06.359 to bring them down and call everyone's shills and all 1473 01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:09.920 this stuff. It's almost always the Christian narcissists that are 1474 01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:12.239 doing it, you know, and then it makes so many 1475 01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:16.920 people not want to look into it, you know, you know, 1476 01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:19.039 like like geocentrism. 1477 01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:20.880 Geocentrism is one of those. 1478 01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:23.399 Things a lot of people just won't even allow themselves 1479 01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:26.359 to see it because of the Christians, you know, and 1480 01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:28.079 the way they act, the way they treat people, because 1481 01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:29.880 it's not there's nothing wrong with being Christian, and they're 1482 01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:31.960 not all like that, you know, Like there's a lot of. 1483 01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:35.840 Christian truthers that are like super chill and awesome guys, you. 1484 01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:40.079 Know, but but then there's this, you know, that supertruther 1485 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:44.399 kind of Christian narcissism mindset where they it just ruins it. 1486 01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:49.319 Dude's and everything and everything's the demons and I'm like, 1487 01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:55.319 you know, and every every everything's demonic. You're a center 1488 01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:57.439 and all of this. It's more na. 1489 01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:00.640 Yoga is satanic. They think fucking yoga satanic. 1490 01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:04.239 They think everything is satanic, you know, and they follow 1491 01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:06.000 this book they don't even know what the book is 1492 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.079 telling them because they look at it at such a 1493 01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:11.680 superficial level, you know. So there, I mean, how many 1494 01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:14.680 Christians are even creationists? Most of them probably don't even 1495 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:16.880 believe in creationism. 1496 01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:20.640 You know, yeah, would know, wouldn't know, I don't know. 1497 01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:24.199 Oh, getting back to the chat over here, though, Ashton said. 1498 01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:28.640 This is in referring to tropical astrology and sidereal. Ashton said, 1499 01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:31.840 Jonathan y'all might both be correct. That's what they call 1500 01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.760 the great year. Seventy two years times three hundred and 1501 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:38.279 sixty degrees, he equals twenty five, nine and twenty years. 1502 01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:41.119 So the stars don't change, but that's the length of 1503 01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:43.079 time that it takes for them to return back to 1504 01:10:43.159 --> 01:10:45.319 their original positions. 1505 01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:46.279 Might be it? 1506 01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:48.159 I mean you think about it, I mean twenty in 1507 01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:52.600 the span of damn near twenty six thousand years. Yeah, 1508 01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:57.000 that's a long time, dude. The the yudas. Why can 1509 01:10:57.119 --> 01:10:58.439 I never remember that word? 1510 01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:01.279 Yuga yuga? 1511 01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:03.359 Yeah, Cali yuga and yeah, yeah, yeah. 1512 01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:04.479 That's what we were trying to bring up the other night. 1513 01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:04.920 I knew it. 1514 01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:07.439 Yeah, I couldn't think of that word, but yeah, that's 1515 01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:11.239 I believe that twenty five twenty years is a yoga. 1516 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:17.600 It's part of the Yuga cycle. Yeah, Benjamin said, my 1517 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.359 friend was a heavy occultist. He took the invitation while 1518 01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:24.800 out of body, wouldn't talk about it. After that did 1519 01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:28.000 meth in Waking Life. He ended up stabbing and killing 1520 01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:32.560 my other friend a few years ago. Yeah, dude, what 1521 01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:34.640 I'm saying, Yeah, that's a yeah. 1522 01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:39.319 Yeah totally. Uh one of my buddies. Man, this this 1523 01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:41.520 kid I worked with like ten years ago and we 1524 01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:43.640 kind of, you know, knew each other throughout the rest 1525 01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:46.000 of the ten years. I just found out, Uh, he 1526 01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:48.119 got high on meth, was was on it for like 1527 01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:50.439 five days, and took an axe. 1528 01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:51.159 To his friend's skull. 1529 01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:52.079 My god. 1530 01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:52.920 Yeah. 1531 01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:54.720 And what's funny is like this guy is kind of 1532 01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.560 like a sensitive pussy. So like I'm like completely shocked 1533 01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:00.000 that he has that kind of street credit. 1534 01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:04.520 Now probably that probably wouldn't even have happened. 1535 01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:07.960 Yeah, not to like undermine how unfortunate the situation is. 1536 01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:09.680 I'm just saying, like, wow, dude, like he's got some 1537 01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:11.119 serious street credit now. 1538 01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:13.479 He just I guess. 1539 01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:17.479 Well, And speaking of that, Benjamin said, meth is a crystal. 1540 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:18.840 We know crystals have power. 1541 01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:25.760 Right, Yeah, that's a good man, that's funny. 1542 01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:26.800 I don't know about that. 1543 01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:29.359 Yeah, dirty stuff, man, And this new stuff going around 1544 01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:31.159 seems like it's making people crazier. So I don't know 1545 01:12:31.159 --> 01:12:34.640 if it's like different chemicals or if it's fatanyl in it, 1546 01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:36.880 but it's making people extra crazy. 1547 01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:38.560 This new stuff going around looks. 1548 01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:41.039 Like, yeah, it's out in the open, man. People just 1549 01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:42.039 don't even care anymore. 1550 01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:42.279 Man. 1551 01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:44.560 I remember being like, you know, just getting out of 1552 01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:46.800 high school or in high school, like trying to hide 1553 01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:49.279 my little nickel bag, you know, and it's like if 1554 01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:51.399 a cop passes by, but these people are out there 1555 01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:54.359 at the bus stop just leaning over like it ain't 1556 01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:54.760 no thing. 1557 01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:55.640 Yeah. 1558 01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:58.399 Her, it's really bad in Phoenix too, where you're at home. 1559 01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:01.000 My goodness, it's the it's like the walking dead. And 1560 01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:03.119 I want to be sensitive about it, you know, because 1561 01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:06.399 these are human beings. But it's like, man, it's it's crazy, man, 1562 01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:08.439 it really is. It really is. 1563 01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:12.079 You feel bad, you know, like that's a human being. 1564 01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:15.119 That person has a whole life, you know, like they 1565 01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:18.039 have memories, they have they used to have dreams, they 1566 01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:20.960 went to school, that there's there's things that they experienced 1567 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:22.680 just like we did, you know, and so they're not 1568 01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:26.680 any less, It's just they're just consumed by this chemical. 1569 01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.800 Man, everyone starts off as that bright eyed little kid, 1570 01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:32.359 you know, man waiting to be friends with the world. 1571 01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:33.760 You know, everyone starts off like that. 1572 01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:36.560 Well for the Halloween episode, I didn't know if I 1573 01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:41.039 didn't think we would be getting into mes zombies, but 1574 01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:41.439 they at. 1575 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:44.199 Least you've got zombies though, you know a little bit Halloween, 1576 01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:47.520 you know what. 1577 01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:49.720 Byron, I did want to ask you what what your 1578 01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:53.560 thoughts are, if you have any on this whole three 1579 01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:57.199 I at list situation. It seems to be flooding everything 1580 01:13:57.279 --> 01:13:59.960 on social media. Everybody has an opinion about what's going on. 1581 01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:02.920 Some people are saying it's intelligent. Some people are saying no, 1582 01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:05.439 it's just a fucking rock out there. Some people are 1583 01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:11.359 allegedly like meditating and remote viewing what is going on there. 1584 01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:13.760 Some people have said that they've talked to the aliens 1585 01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.640 that are on it, and I'm like, maybe by Rendo. 1586 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:20.279 Wow, Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't trust anything 1587 01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:23.680 put up by NASA, you know, like, I absolutely not. 1588 01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.840 I don't trust anything those guys say or do. Yeah, 1589 01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:29.840 it's all fake everything they say it's fake. So I 1590 01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:33.000 don't know as any amateur astronomers seeing it. You know, 1591 01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:35.039 there something actually up there. 1592 01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:38.199 It's out by the sun, so it is way out there. 1593 01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:40.119 And okay, so you can't even see it if it's 1594 01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:41.439 if it's out by the sun. 1595 01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.960 Then well, and they say that it's it's the size 1596 01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:48.359 of Manhattan and it's close to the sun, and the idea, 1597 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:50.920 I don't know. I guess it has some kind of 1598 01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:53.239 tail on it, or maybe it doesn't have a tail. 1599 01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:53.640 I don't know. 1600 01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:57.960 A bunch of very like contradicting kind of information going 1601 01:14:57.960 --> 01:14:59.720 on about it. That's why I figured, I ask you. 1602 01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:01.960 I don't know. NASA always puts out all these fake 1603 01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.399 stories all the time, Like whenever it's like Halloween, they'll 1604 01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:07.399 put out an asteroid that's shaped like a skull, or 1605 01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:10.560 like remember that show the sun flares that make it 1606 01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:14.960 look like a jack lantern, and you know, and they 1607 01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:17.560 always do that kind of stuff. I don't know. 1608 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:20.039 I don't, like I said, I don't believe anything NASA says. 1609 01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:22.920 Ever, I don't think i've you know, because of my algorithm, 1610 01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:25.840 I always see like the weirdest version of anything happening, 1611 01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:28.279 and you know, in our time. And so every video 1612 01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:30.600 I see of that thing, it just looks so fake, 1613 01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:33.680 and like it looks like there's windows and there's like 1614 01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:37.680 this ominous music and almost like space sound effects like. 1615 01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:41.439 This, even the pictures of the planets they allegedly get. 1616 01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:44.479 What they do is because because they can't just take 1617 01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:47.119 a photograph of it, right, so they basically hit it 1618 01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:50.479 with like a radar and basically whatever signal comes back, 1619 01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:53.720 they fill it in kind of like a paint by numbers, 1620 01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:57.079 you know. And so that's kind of like where a 1621 01:15:57.119 --> 01:15:59.039 lot of our images come from. So they're sort of 1622 01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:02.600 not even getting photo graphs of the plants. 1623 01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:05.079 They're just kind of like it's compilations. 1624 01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:09.479 Yeah, yeah, they're basically just made up. It's it's pretty ridiculous. 1625 01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:11.439 You know, I don't trust anything they say, you know, 1626 01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:13.720 I mean, you look at the moon Landing and it 1627 01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:17.560 looks like special effects from the nineteen sixties. It looks like, 1628 01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:21.319 you know, like Twilight Zone or you know, like it 1629 01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:24.159 looks so the moon Landing looks so bad now when 1630 01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:26.079 you look at it as an adult, so bad. 1631 01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:28.279 It's it's it's terrible. 1632 01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:31.119 And and then after that it just got worse and 1633 01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:33.079 worse the stuff they did in the eighties and nineties. 1634 01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:36.159 It looks even worse than the moon landing. And then 1635 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:38.000 you look at like all this fake stuff with the 1636 01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:41.319 iss and everything. Yeah, I just won't trust anything. And 1637 01:16:41.359 --> 01:16:43.479 then the amount of money they get for it. 1638 01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:47.199 Yeah, oh yeah, dude, it's crazy. How much is going 1639 01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:49.000 in there? A hundred and uh. 1640 01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:53.760 So I know someone who was an engineer and right 1641 01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:57.520 out of college for NASA down and Houston, right, and 1642 01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:02.720 uh another person pretty well and uh uh and she 1643 01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:06.399 said that they didn't even do anything. She was an engineer. 1644 01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:09.239 They're paying six figures plus like a rental car and 1645 01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:09.760 some other. 1646 01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:12.520 Like bonuses and stuff. Stupid money. And she said they 1647 01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:14.239 didn't even do anything all day. They were just kind 1648 01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:15.239 of doing like busy work. 1649 01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:19.640 You know, why would they even go through the trouble 1650 01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:20.199 of that though. 1651 01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:21.680 That's the thing we get a lot. 1652 01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:24.760 If they're pretending, why can't they just pretend that they're 1653 01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:27.199 paying people and pretend put some cars out front and 1654 01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:29.079 be like, yeah, look we got people working here. 1655 01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:32.640 Initially it was to try and you know what was it? 1656 01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:34.319 They were trying to throw the Russians off of it 1657 01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:37.079 or the germans off of I think it was the Russians, right, 1658 01:17:37.079 --> 01:17:39.479 It was like the Space Race, Yeah, and it was 1659 01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:43.359 trying to show who was more technologically advanced, and so 1660 01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:47.159 they were trying to show like, Yo, you're fucking with America. 1661 01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:49.600 We just put a man on the moon, dude, and 1662 01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:51.920 nobody paid attention to the guy that was holding the camera, 1663 01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:55.640 you know, that landed there first. And if you look 1664 01:17:55.680 --> 01:17:58.760 at it, like, it's so crazy because you'll see the 1665 01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.439 space take off back to Earth and the guy holding 1666 01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:06.359 the camera is still there and it'sous. 1667 01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:06.119 And it's. 1668 01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:08.920 Up and it looks so fake. 1669 01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:11.000 It literally looks like a like a little kind of 1670 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:13.199 like a confetti explosion at the base and then it 1671 01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:16.920 gets like lifted out by a crane. It looks so bad, dud, Dude, 1672 01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:20.119 Like I said, it literally looks like nineteen sixty specially, 1673 01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:21.079 I mean really good. 1674 01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:23.880 Nineteen sixty special effects, you know. I mean they had 1675 01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:24.720 an endless budget. 1676 01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:28.359 Yeah, Coubrick Kubrick, and he's noted for editing parts of it, 1677 01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:31.840 like you know the part where uh, the lunar lander 1678 01:18:32.119 --> 01:18:34.720 is coming back up and it's like twisting and connecting 1679 01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:39.479 back to the spaceship and everything he edited that part, 1680 01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:41.800 and that part looks super fake when you see that, 1681 01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:44.199 you know, I mean, it's so bad. 1682 01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:44.479 Man. 1683 01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:46.920 I still kind of want the moon landing to be real, 1684 01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:48.720 to be honest with you, you know what I mean, 1685 01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:51.479 Like I don't. Yeah, it's like if if someone came 1686 01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:53.600 to you, Johnathan, back when you were a kid and 1687 01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:56.159 was like, wrestling's not real, you know what I mean? Like, 1688 01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:57.319 that's that's what that is. 1689 01:18:57.399 --> 01:19:01.520 Yeah, man, were the moonlight and I'll tell you that. 1690 01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:07.000 A lot more real, dude. I'm not even convinced that 1691 01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:11.039 the moon is a physical place as much, dude, And it. 1692 01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:12.039 Produces its own light. 1693 01:19:12.119 --> 01:19:12.279 Man. 1694 01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:14.840 You can take a laser thing, you know, we had 1695 01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:18.479 one at my work and I checked everything, dude, Like 1696 01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:21.439 the moonlight is always colder than the shade. Doesn't matter 1697 01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:23.800 what type of material, type of stuff, the moonlight is 1698 01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:25.079 always colder than the shade. 1699 01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:27.520 Yeah, there's And then check this out. 1700 01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:30.960 You can take a magnifying glass and increase how cold 1701 01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:32.319 it is. You know, you know how you take like 1702 01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:34.399 a magnifying glass in the sun burn ants when you're 1703 01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:39.199 a kid. Yeah, you can do the same thing and 1704 01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:42.399 make it even colder. Tick that light, make it even colder. 1705 01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:44.800 Yeah, I've heard a lot of people do that experiment, 1706 01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:48.840 and it's for sure real. Yeah, it's it's something strange, dude. 1707 01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:51.359 And especially if you look back at a lot of 1708 01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:53.439 the ancient text, not even just the Bible, they'll talk 1709 01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:57.239 about like how you know that the God put up 1710 01:19:57.439 --> 01:20:01.720 two lights in the sky. It was like two lights, right, Like, 1711 01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:04.079 so you wouldn't say that the moon is a light 1712 01:20:04.239 --> 01:20:06.520 because most people, you know, whenever you think of the moon, 1713 01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:09.960 it's getting its light from the sun, right, So you 1714 01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:12.680 wouldn't then say that God put up two lights. You 1715 01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:14.680 would say God put up a light and then there 1716 01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:17.000 was this other fucking rock floating out there that it 1717 01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:19.920 just so happened to be getting, you know, light from 1718 01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:20.279 the sun. 1719 01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:22.720 So I don't know, I do kind of I do 1720 01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:25.359 kind of think the sun probably might play a role 1721 01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:26.199 in charging. 1722 01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:28.119 It, you know and charging it. 1723 01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:30.359 Yeah, maybe totally. I could see that. 1724 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:32.279 As far as the Bible goals, I feel like it. 1725 01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:34.720 You know, it was a lot of the gods of 1726 01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:37.000 the gaps type of thing. They didn't understand why the 1727 01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:39.960 moon was emitting light, you know, they didn't understand that 1728 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:41.960 the sun was But that's just me, you know, what 1729 01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:42.520 I mean. 1730 01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.439 Well, they all had the exact same explanation for it, 1731 01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:49.119 and it was the Catholics that came in and said, no, 1732 01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:50.319 that's not what it is. 1733 01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:51.239 It's just now. 1734 01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:54.600 Yeah, Well, and that's that's where it trips me up, 1735 01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:57.039 is where you know, the Bible is supposed to be 1736 01:20:57.119 --> 01:21:00.000 divinely inspired, and that's where, like I get caught up. 1737 01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:04.359 It gets science wrong, the idea that it's divinely inspired, 1738 01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:10.439 yet it's very provably wrong on multiple instances. You know 1739 01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:13.560 what I'm saying, that's metaphorical, Jonathan, Yeah, I'm just taking 1740 01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:15.359 it the wrong And no, then you'll you'll get the 1741 01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:18.039 answer of well, that's just how those people interpreted it. 1742 01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:21.000 So you're trying to tell me that they misinterpreted God? 1743 01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:24.399 Is that because I thought it was divinely inspired? You know, 1744 01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:28.359 like and there's there's always so much like backtracking on 1745 01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:29.520 the whole thing, and and. 1746 01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:32.279 I get it, not everybody's a scholar, And this is 1747 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:33.840 what I'm thinking as far as like and you know, 1748 01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:36.000 like I maybe it's just me, Like I hope we 1749 01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:38.319 went I wish that was real, that we did go 1750 01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:40.079 to the moon, you know, because I feel like that's 1751 01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:41.680 that would be cool if humans figured out how to 1752 01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:44.560 do that. And I feel like the conspiracy theory on 1753 01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:46.760 us not being able to get to the moon. Call 1754 01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:48.520 me crazy, you know, but it's like, if there's a 1755 01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:50.920 firmament and God created us to be here and we 1756 01:21:50.960 --> 01:21:53.600 can't get out of that, then of course we didn't 1757 01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:55.319 go to the moon. How could we have gone to 1758 01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:56.800 the moon, you know what I'm saying. I think that 1759 01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:00.000 that's where that conspiracy came from. To be honest, I think, 1760 01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:01.239 you know, that's just me though. 1761 01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:05.199 The moonland and people started calling that out way before 1762 01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:10.039 planar Gio CenTra as it made a comeback like way 1763 01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:13.159 before people were calling that out day one, but there 1764 01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:15.279 was no outlet for them, and so they started kind 1765 01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:17.039 of going to like UFO conventions to try to get 1766 01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:19.279 the word out and not getting a lot of traction 1767 01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:23.319 before the internet, you know. But to get back to, 1768 01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:25.880 you know, metaphors for the sun and the moon. Let's 1769 01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:28.319 go with the Apollo and the Artemis myth right, because 1770 01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:32.399 they named the Apollo mission Apollo right. Apollo and Artemists 1771 01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:34.920 were brother and sisters, but they were also married. Apollo 1772 01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:38.439 chased her across the night sky for all eternity, but 1773 01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:42.399 he was never able to consummate his marriage. Apollo never 1774 01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:45.399 reached the moon, dude. 1775 01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:46.960 And I'll tell you what. You know, what I think 1776 01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:49.359 it is. It's that there are so many myths in 1777 01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:53.079 religion that want to be that want to have an 1778 01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:56.399 answer as to what happened in the beginning to make 1779 01:22:56.520 --> 01:22:59.600 their you know, argument more valid. I think that's really 1780 01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:00.119 what it is. 1781 01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:00.239 Is. 1782 01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:03.239 You know, like it's so easy to just say, oh, yeah, 1783 01:23:03.239 --> 01:23:05.199 God made two lights and he put all the animals 1784 01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:08.039 on the earth and all these and I'm like, yeah, 1785 01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:12.319 you know, because if you hear from ancient cultures, supposedly 1786 01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.000 this is I can't remember which there's like two or 1787 01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.560 three ancient cultures that talk about a time before the 1788 01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:21.239 moon was here, Like they say that the moon only 1789 01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:23.840 came into orbit so many thousands of years ago, and 1790 01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:27.000 that people were here before the moon came into orbit. 1791 01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:29.319 So I don't know what the fuck to believe about. 1792 01:23:29.119 --> 01:23:30.560 All of it. And you get into the whole moon 1793 01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:31.560 being artificial. 1794 01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:35.520 I would go and actually like read what they actually said, 1795 01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:39.279 you know, and and then base it off of that, 1796 01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:42.520 you know, because something could easily be misinterpreting that. I mean, 1797 01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:47.560 just look at what's his name, the guy with the Yanaki. 1798 01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:50.640 Oh, Billy Carson. 1799 01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:53.800 No, No, the original guy, the guy that fucking wrote 1800 01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:55.239 the first books on it back then. 1801 01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:57.319 Oh, I know you're talking about damn. 1802 01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:01.119 But his his translations were so bad people thought they 1803 01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:03.920 were obviously fake. And I have my doubts on the 1804 01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:07.479 legitimacy of those texts anyway. 1805 01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:10.359 Zacharai Stitching, Yeah, Zacharice. 1806 01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:11.880 Stitchin, Yeah, I was right on the tip of my tongue, man. 1807 01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:18.279 But I have my doubts about the Sumerian tablets, honestly, 1808 01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:19.399 about their authenticity. 1809 01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:20.920 I have my doubts about it because they. 1810 01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:23.600 Weren't even found until the nineteen forties, nineteen fifties, and 1811 01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:25.720 they weren't translated to like the nineteen sixties. 1812 01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:27.520 And then you look at the alphabet. How do you 1813 01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:29.800 even translate that? How could you translate that? 1814 01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:32.359 Yeah? And I have my doubts about everything that's been 1815 01:24:32.359 --> 01:24:34.760 written about how why we're here? 1816 01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:37.479 Oh, and you think about all the different things that 1817 01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:41.000 came out in like a fifteen year time span, you 1818 01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:43.880 know what I mean, Like there was those tablets, and 1819 01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:46.199 then there was also the Dead Sea scrolls. Then there 1820 01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:48.520 was the Nagamati texts and it was almost like all 1821 01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:51.000 compounding on top of each other, which I don't know. 1822 01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:53.560 I find it very strange. I mean, although I do 1823 01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:56.399 kind of FINDI personally the Nagamadi. 1824 01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:58.560 First of all, there's stuff in the Nagamati I want 1825 01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:01.239 to believe in, you know, like it seems really cool 1826 01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:03.560 to me, some of the stuff that's in there. But 1827 01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:06.399 the way some kid was he like an Afghanistan or 1828 01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:07.159 is a Pakistan? 1829 01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:10.720 I thought it was like Egypt or something, wasn't it. 1830 01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:13.359 No, No, I think it was Afghanistan. It might have 1831 01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:16.119 been Pakistan though, because Pakistan still close to like Indian stuff. 1832 01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:18.640 Maybe I don't know, but I think it was Afghanistan. 1833 01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:21.239 But some kid was just like out in the desert 1834 01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:25.000 throwing rocks at a mountain and he heard a rock 1835 01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:28.000 go up on this ledge and he heard something break. 1836 01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:30.239 And he was like, oh, that sounds kind of neat, 1837 01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:30.800 and he. 1838 01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:32.279 Climbs all the way up there and he sees these 1839 01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:34.800 little clay vessels filled with these scrolls. 1840 01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:37.359 It just seems like such a made up story. 1841 01:25:37.359 --> 01:25:40.600 I don't know, man, Like I wanted to be real, 1842 01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:42.039 but it's just hard for me to believe some kid 1843 01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:42.800 in the middle. 1844 01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:47.479 Of nowhere, threw a rock, heard a clay vessel break, 1845 01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:51.079 climbs up the mountain, checks it out, finds these things 1846 01:25:51.119 --> 01:25:52.760 in the middle of nowhere where no one lives. 1847 01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:56.720 And Nagamadi is upper Egypt, it says, Oh. 1848 01:25:56.560 --> 01:25:58.720 It is upper Egypt. Maybe I'll think of the Dead 1849 01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:00.600 Sea scrolls or it's the same thing. 1850 01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:03.279 No dead Sea scrolls, that was I mean it was 1851 01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:04.039 found dead sea. 1852 01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:07.000 Yeah, okay, yeah, but uh. 1853 01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:08.840 But yeah, I don't know. I think there's good reason 1854 01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:11.960 to question a lot of it, really, And that's where 1855 01:26:12.279 --> 01:26:14.800 you know, your sixth sense has to come in, and 1856 01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:18.479 that that intuitive knowing that whenever you read something, does 1857 01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:21.079 it vibe with what with what you already know and 1858 01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:23.680 what you already believe, and it doesn't make you question 1859 01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:26.239 what you already know and what you believe and kind 1860 01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:28.640 of use it as a filter. I don't take anything 1861 01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:31.199 at face value, like I literally nothing. 1862 01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:33.840 Ultimately, does it make you better or does it make 1863 01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:35.840 you worse and live in fear? Like you know what 1864 01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:37.520 I mean. I feel like that's a pretty good way 1865 01:26:37.520 --> 01:26:38.199 to kind of judge. 1866 01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:40.640 But the stuff in the nog and body that sounds 1867 01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:43.159 really cool, Like the Gospel of Mary the Gospel of 1868 01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:46.760 Mary Magdalen, and apparently Jesus talks about reincarnation with Mary Magdalene, the. 1869 01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:50.640 Gospel of Judas. You know, like, yeah, these just. 1870 01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:54.199 Naturally seem like stuff that's missing or that would be missing, 1871 01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:54.479 you know. 1872 01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:58.119 Yeah, yeah, for that for that inner nosis, for sure. 1873 01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:03.079 Benjam And said, the algorithm you're on has to make 1874 01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:05.760 a difference. Someone I talked to today had no idea 1875 01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:08.760 what three I at lists was, and the everyday people 1876 01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:11.680 I'm around have never even mentioned it. So the narrative, 1877 01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:16.039 Oh yeah, so that's it is strange, you know, algorithms 1878 01:27:16.079 --> 01:27:19.640 and people getting kind of lost in echo chambers almost, 1879 01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:22.239 but the algorithm is building the echo chamber for you 1880 01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:25.640 to almost like confirm your belief and your the narrative 1881 01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:26.359 that you accept. 1882 01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:29.399 Yeah, I think the algorithms that we have with the 1883 01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:32.880 technology that we use is a very good analogy for 1884 01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:36.279 just the universe itself and the reality that you create 1885 01:27:36.319 --> 01:27:38.079 for yourself. So the things that you look into on 1886 01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:40.239 your phone is the things that you see more of. 1887 01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:43.159 And so in your you know, just your daily life, 1888 01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:45.319 you're looking into certain things. Now you're going to see 1889 01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:47.079 more of that, and so I think that's just how 1890 01:27:47.119 --> 01:27:47.640 that works. 1891 01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:50.760 And this realm kind of has its own algorithm where 1892 01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:53.920 you start picking up on these synchronicities and yeah, clues 1893 01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:57.000 and omens and you know, like you always find the 1894 01:27:57.079 --> 01:27:59.039 right information right when you need it that takes you 1895 01:27:59.079 --> 01:28:00.279 down another rabbit hole and. 1896 01:28:00.279 --> 01:28:02.840 That kind of stuff, you know, or a teacher shows up, 1897 01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:06.000 you know, based off of the the modalities that you're 1898 01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:08.319 looking into, or I mean, it's just it's just nuts 1899 01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:09.319 how it works out, man. 1900 01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:11.880 Yeah, dude, We've met a lot of really great people 1901 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:14.000 over the past few months and really just over the 1902 01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:16.119 course of the two plus years that we've been doing 1903 01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:19.600 this show. You know, it's awesome. I mean, Byron, you're 1904 01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:23.760 like an og to this show more than any of 1905 01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:25.119 The last. 1906 01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:27.119 Few interviews you guys did were pretty fire. You guys 1907 01:28:27.119 --> 01:28:28.840 had a couple of bangers back to back. Man. 1908 01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:31.119 Yeah, we try to keep it going, man that those 1909 01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:33.560 are the best, man, anything that we can. My favorite 1910 01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:36.119 thing is when somebody says something I haven't heard before. 1911 01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:38.840 You know, that's that's where it's at. 1912 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:41.720 Man, Or you can just articulates it a little differently exactly. 1913 01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:43.960 Oh yeah, and that's happened plenty of time. 1914 01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:46.520 You know, that that TikTok video he played about that 1915 01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:51.439 guy's five gram trip, Like, man, that's brutal, but you know, 1916 01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:54.000 like to me, it's amazing. He was able to articulate 1917 01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:57.279 his experience so well to where other people could understand 1918 01:28:57.279 --> 01:28:58.119 what he's talking about. 1919 01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:01.399 You know, I just can't imagine spending that much time 1920 01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:04.640 quote unquote, you know, at least the experience of that 1921 01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:06.119 much time. And what's the difference. 1922 01:29:06.239 --> 01:29:09.560 Right, I've been inside of like crazy deep trips before 1923 01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:13.880 and I can't remember most of it. So for him, 1924 01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:18.359 I was anywhere for you know, centuries. Oh my god, damn, 1925 01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:19.560 that's a pretty great memory. 1926 01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:22.439 Like with DMT, you know, as soon as you come 1927 01:29:22.479 --> 01:29:24.000 out of it and you start trying to talk about 1928 01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:26.640 your experience with someone, it'll start you'll start forgetting it 1929 01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:28.079 as soon as you start talking about it. 1930 01:29:28.199 --> 01:29:30.640 Yeah, yeah, dude, imagine living centuries. 1931 01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:30.800 Man. 1932 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:32.520 Then you hear people saying like, oh, you know, I'm 1933 01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:35.079 just tired of living, like life is just too much. 1934 01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:37.640 Like I've lived to centuries. You like, you have that 1935 01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:40.199 experience of living that long. You know, you're a fucking 1936 01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:41.279 vampire at that point. 1937 01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:43.760 One common theme with a lot of people that had 1938 01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:48.159 like d MT breakthroughs or like ayahuasca and stuff, they 1939 01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:50.520 don't fear death as much. So it kind of has 1940 01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:52.920 that same effect that like a near death experience has. 1941 01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:54.840 When people come out of a near death experience, they 1942 01:29:54.840 --> 01:29:58.640 don't really fear dying as much, you know, and you 1943 01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:00.560 know a lot of people that change their whole lives 1944 01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:02.680 and kind of quit their crappy job and start doing 1945 01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:04.680 something they want to do, and that kind of stuff. 1946 01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:06.720 You know, at least in what the research we've gone over, 1947 01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:09.159 it's always something positive they get out of it. I 1948 01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:12.079 don't think we've had a story where something negative was 1949 01:30:12.119 --> 01:30:15.239 like seemingly permanent after that type of experience. 1950 01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:22.520 Yeah, one thing that near death experience and DMT experience 1951 01:30:22.560 --> 01:30:24.359 both have in common. When you really kind of go 1952 01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:26.439 through the data and everyone's experience and you kind of 1953 01:30:26.439 --> 01:30:29.399 pour through it all, it's not just a subconscious thing. 1954 01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:34.720 You know, there's something external these people are tapping into. Yeah, 1955 01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:37.560 and the data is like pretty clear about it. You know. 1956 01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:39.680 These people come back knowing things they shouldn't know. 1957 01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:40.399 You know. 1958 01:30:41.039 --> 01:30:44.279 Yeah, people coming back as like savants, you know, playing 1959 01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:46.920 music that they never played music a day in their life, 1960 01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:50.159 and all of a sudden there. I mean David Ditchfield, 1961 01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:54.239 he's like composing music and he never did anything musically 1962 01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:57.039 inclined at all, you know, And so where does that 1963 01:30:57.079 --> 01:31:01.119 come from? Your brain just takes on a whole nother I. 1964 01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:04.359 Don't know, just the natural tapping into of the field 1965 01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:06.279 that is always around us that we don't know. 1966 01:31:06.279 --> 01:31:08.159 That it's there, the field. 1967 01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:12.960 Dude, Yes, yeah, yeah, Byron, I want to ask you, dude. 1968 01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:16.319 All right, So because we we've barely gone over anything 1969 01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:18.279 Halloween in this episode, we got to try and make 1970 01:31:18.319 --> 01:31:22.359 it somewhat Halloween. What are some what's like a decent, 1971 01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:25.880 easily like kind of a easy to comprehend type of 1972 01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:28.760 ritual that somebody might do on Halloween. 1973 01:31:29.279 --> 01:31:33.000 Uh. The the easiest stuff, like I said, that I 1974 01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:35.079 can think of for something to get results right away 1975 01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:39.920 would be sigil magic, you know, but since it's spooky season, 1976 01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:42.920 you know, and uh, you know, we had EA on 1977 01:31:43.079 --> 01:31:43.880 not that long ago. 1978 01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:46.479 Uh so you know, because because. 1979 01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:49.199 I usually try to plug for a newbie the chaos 1980 01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:53.119 magic style of sigil creation, and one thing that he 1981 01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:57.159 did a video about a long time ago, uh was 1982 01:31:57.239 --> 01:32:02.319 just basically pick a spirit, you know, Uh, pick any 1983 01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:05.079 spirit that resonates with you. I would I would find 1984 01:32:05.159 --> 01:32:07.319 like a spirit that has like a like a like 1985 01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:12.560 a very distinct sigil, you know, Uh, the Olympic spirits 1986 01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:14.680 from the Arbital of Magic. Those signls are really easy 1987 01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:16.640 to draw. Those spirits are pretty easy to work with. 1988 01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:21.760 But you know, spooky season, I suggest summoning a demon. 1989 01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:25.439 I think would be the most fun for hollow, you know, 1990 01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:29.119 So for for a beginner, I'd probably reckon And some 1991 01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:32.399 people might disagree with me on this one, but I recommend, 1992 01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:38.199 uh king pymon from the Goatia, I would recommend starting 1993 01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:40.359 with them. So just take a pic sigil of a 1994 01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.640 king pymon and uh, just draw it out to the 1995 01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:46.399 best you can. Some of these siguls aren't very easy 1996 01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:48.079 to draw, so just draw it out the best you can, 1997 01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:51.840 and then you know, get some candles, some incense, uh, 1998 01:32:52.039 --> 01:32:54.159 bless everything to the best of your ability, you know, 1999 01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:54.840 you know. 2000 01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:56.880 Depending on how much of a newbie you are. 2001 01:32:56.920 --> 01:32:59.039 But just do your best to fill the remote some 2002 01:32:59.079 --> 01:32:59.840 spiritual energy. 2003 01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:00.640 Uh. 2004 01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:05.640 Take the sigil and just stare into it and and 2005 01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:07.560 just kind of wait for it to start to kind 2006 01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:09.840 of not recommend doing the sigil inside of a circle 2007 01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:13.199 so you can really concentrate that energy and just kind 2008 01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:16.159 of wait for the sigil to start moving around and 2009 01:33:16.399 --> 01:33:18.359 you just kind of start hallucinating. You can almost start 2010 01:33:18.359 --> 01:33:21.399 scrying into the sigul for a while, and then uh 2011 01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:24.920 with the demonic spirit. With the spirits from the Goatia, 2012 01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:27.239 they have these mantras. They call it ends like eat 2013 01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:30.119 an end uh for them. So I would I would 2014 01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:33.199 just start while you're staring at it, just there we go. 2015 01:33:34.039 --> 01:33:37.319 King Pimon man he he he's my favorite out of 2016 01:33:37.359 --> 01:33:39.760 the kings from the Goatia. Out of out of all 2017 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:42.439 the kings, King Pimon is my favorite. He's associated with 2018 01:33:42.479 --> 01:33:46.800 like money sometimes and he's also associated with uh music, 2019 01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:50.720 you know, so uh, he's very powerful. He works really fast. 2020 01:33:50.720 --> 01:33:52.000 He has a little bit of a style to the 2021 01:33:52.039 --> 01:33:53.600 way he works, where like Beliole is like a. 2022 01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:55.239 Lot more direct. 2023 01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:57.720 Uh. Pimeon kind of has like a little more flavor 2024 01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:00.439 to the way he works. Yeah, that's why I kind 2025 01:34:00.439 --> 01:34:02.479 of like him. And he kind of has like a 2026 01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:05.760 Northwest energy. It's kind of an earth and water. He's 2027 01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:09.479 listed as water, but he's kind of an earth water element. 2028 01:34:11.159 --> 01:34:12.880 Abramelon the Mage I didn't know that. 2029 01:34:13.439 --> 01:34:15.880 Yeah, So starings of the schedule, wait for it to 2030 01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:19.760 start moving around, uh, popping around doing all this crazy stuff. 2031 01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:21.600 We'll start kind of looking at the electric you'll start 2032 01:34:21.439 --> 01:34:22.920 morphing into different shapes. 2033 01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:25.319 Uh, maybe scry into it. 2034 01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:27.439 But while you're staying at the schigul, just start chanting 2035 01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:32.279 the end the mantra for a king pymon and uh, 2036 01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:35.880 I think it's leroc tassa jada and pimon, I think 2037 01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:39.279 is what it is. And do that for a while 2038 01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:42.039 and then start, you know, because you're probably not gonna 2039 01:34:42.039 --> 01:34:43.800 if you're a beginning, you're probably gonna have a scring mirror, 2040 01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:47.680 So just start into a pile of smoke just where 2041 01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:50.560 your incense and candles is. Just start focusing a bunch 2042 01:34:50.600 --> 01:34:52.960 of energy. Once you start feeling his name, just start 2043 01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:55.399 vibrating his name. After you've done the end for a 2044 01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:57.199 while and you start feeling the shift in the room, 2045 01:34:57.560 --> 01:35:03.760 and just go like pu all you know, and into 2046 01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:06.560 the cloud of smoke and you'll and then do your 2047 01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:08.600 best to kind of put some energy in there to 2048 01:35:08.680 --> 01:35:11.399 kind of create a body for him if you can. Uh, 2049 01:35:12.159 --> 01:35:16.399 and then uh just start talking to him, ask him 2050 01:35:16.439 --> 01:35:19.319 for one particular thing, like you know, uh that you 2051 01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:21.720 want make sure you have something planned out that you 2052 01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:23.399 want uh during this ritual. 2053 01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:27.600 Maybe have some questions planned out too, but you know, 2054 01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:28.680 make your claim. 2055 01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:32.760 Uh maybe make an offering or maybe tell them you'll 2056 01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:35.560 make an offering once it comes to fruition. But let's 2057 01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:39.039 just say you're looking for a new job, right or something. Uh, 2058 01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:42.000 focus on that, focus on that, put some emotion into it. 2059 01:35:42.479 --> 01:35:45.520 Maybe start with like like a kind of an anxiety 2060 01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:50.079 of like a lack of having this job, and then 2061 01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:53.960 uh use that kind of anxiety to kind of trigger 2062 01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:57.279 you nervous system to kind of affect the feel around you. Right, 2063 01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:00.840 and then start as as you're getting into it, really 2064 01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:06.880 focus on getting it, and then the gratitude and the 2065 01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:09.000 feeling you have of already having it, but trying to 2066 01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:12.960 transmute the beginning of it, uh, going from that. 2067 01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:18.239 Moment of lack to the gratitude of already having it. 2068 01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:21.520 And then uh so you know, make a petition to 2069 01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:27.279 him and then fill your whole aura up with the 2070 01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:30.319 white golden light and everything and all that energy and 2071 01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:37.039 then just channel what you want into already happening, already done, 2072 01:36:37.079 --> 01:36:39.960 into the circle of the sigil. Just channel all the 2073 01:36:40.079 --> 01:36:43.159 energy right into that fold it up and then stick 2074 01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:46.760 it someplace safe until it happens. But that's it. N 2075 01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:48.960 But yeah, since it spooky season, that's a good way. 2076 01:36:49.039 --> 01:36:51.800 And uh yeah he had a video on it. I 2077 01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:53.159 don't know if he still does. You know, you got 2078 01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:55.039 his stuff delete it so, I don't know if it's 2079 01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:55.479 so up. 2080 01:36:55.479 --> 01:36:57.239 But that's a good way. 2081 01:36:57.399 --> 01:36:59.479 That that's a good way. Just just summon a spirit, 2082 01:36:59.840 --> 01:37:03.640 just the spirit. Yeah, you know, I mean and and 2083 01:37:03.640 --> 01:37:07.239 and the demons from the Croatia most of them, like 2084 01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:10.319 are fairly safe and benevolent to work with for the 2085 01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:13.319 most part. You know, just treat them with respect. Uh, 2086 01:37:13.399 --> 01:37:16.680 don't try to blossom around. Just just you know, like 2087 01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:19.800 like you would with your friend, you know, like you know, 2088 01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:22.399 just you know that kind of stuff. Don't come into 2089 01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:25.399 it with like a like a prejudice from your religious 2090 01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:28.800 upbringing or something if you can, you know, and or 2091 01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:32.279 come from a place of like a like a power hungry, 2092 01:37:32.279 --> 01:37:35.279 fragile ego either, you know, you just just just be straight. 2093 01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:39.159 Just do the work, fold up the schedul put it away, 2094 01:37:39.319 --> 01:37:40.439 put it in the book or something. 2095 01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:42.159 Just wait for it to manifest. 2096 01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:44.720 And then after a manifest you can say thank you, 2097 01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:46.560 make an offering burn the sigil. 2098 01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.920 I mean, hey, they're just spirits anyway, you know, I 2099 01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:54.720 just out of curiosity you think that they're like, I 2100 01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:57.640 don't want to say disembodied spirits. I mean where do 2101 01:37:57.720 --> 01:38:02.840 you think just you're opinion, where is King Pymonton for example. 2102 01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:06.800 Yeah, it's such a loaded question because because you do 2103 01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:10.920 have like the uh, the kind of like like the 2104 01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:14.159 subconscious kind of archetypes, you know, where where these are 2105 01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:17.359 like archetypes of the people have kind of created and 2106 01:38:18.720 --> 01:38:22.159 that that that that's basically like us working with them 2107 01:38:22.199 --> 01:38:25.079 that creates them. And uh, and there is a lot 2108 01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:27.760 of truth to that. But I still think that there 2109 01:38:27.880 --> 01:38:30.880 is a very external component the magic and spirits and 2110 01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:31.680 that they exist. 2111 01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:34.800 Outside of uh us too. Uh. 2112 01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:38.640 But yeah, some spirits I think exist, you know, just 2113 01:38:38.720 --> 01:38:43.560 for the purpose of keeping doing maintenance basically on consensual. 2114 01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:46.560 Reality that they're the ones. They're the spirits that are 2115 01:38:46.600 --> 01:38:49.439 just have this job. Not much different than like the way. 2116 01:38:49.560 --> 01:38:53.680 Worms, you know, till the soil and you know, animals 2117 01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:56.399 and everything and be spread the pollen. You know. 2118 01:38:58.319 --> 01:39:01.680 Ila referred to them as the management company, you know, 2119 01:39:02.239 --> 01:39:02.920 something like that. 2120 01:39:03.359 --> 01:39:03.880 Yeah, totally. 2121 01:39:03.920 --> 01:39:06.159 But when we're talking about spirits like the goetia and 2122 01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:08.840 the angels and stuff. I don't know, you know, like 2123 01:39:09.079 --> 01:39:13.560 they're each one's associated with a different angle from the zodiac, 2124 01:39:15.079 --> 01:39:20.039 and you know, you look at the effect that astrology 2125 01:39:20.079 --> 01:39:23.960 has on us. So part of me thinks that I 2126 01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:29.359 don't know if people just associated them with with the zodiac, 2127 01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:33.479 or like if someone channeled them, discovered these entities or 2128 01:39:33.479 --> 01:39:35.880 maybe even created them and then associated them with with 2129 01:39:35.920 --> 01:39:41.039 that later, or if these are just like that energy anthropomorphized, 2130 01:39:41.159 --> 01:39:43.520 you know, where people took the zodiac first and then 2131 01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:47.720 anthropomorphized these energies with who. I mean, who knows. Man, 2132 01:39:47.720 --> 01:39:50.439 It's like the chicken or the egg. It's such a 2133 01:39:51.960 --> 01:39:53.920 you know, and the more I do magic, the more 2134 01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:56.520 I'm just kind of stumped on, you know, like like 2135 01:39:56.560 --> 01:39:57.800 what the true nature. 2136 01:39:57.520 --> 01:39:58.720 Of some of these enemies are. 2137 01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:01.840 You know, It's like and the old adage of you know, 2138 01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:05.880 did did God create humans or did humans create God? Situation? 2139 01:40:06.279 --> 01:40:06.479 Right? 2140 01:40:06.600 --> 01:40:09.399 Yeah, yeah, well I mean that I think that's a 2141 01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:11.560 that's a little different, you know. 2142 01:40:12.279 --> 01:40:14.359 But but with the with the. 2143 01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:19.479 Spirits, man, and because here's the thing, you know, it 2144 01:40:20.079 --> 01:40:21.920 took like like I was just talking about the zodiac 2145 01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:23.880 and the planets and their thing, and like all the 2146 01:40:23.960 --> 01:40:26.000 myths and all the religions are based off of that. 2147 01:40:26.079 --> 01:40:29.319 So all the characters in there are basically constellations and 2148 01:40:29.439 --> 01:40:33.279 zodiac signs, and uh, the planets are the gods. 2149 01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.560 Usually and. 2150 01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:41.239 You know, so so even though like like Odin and 2151 01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:44.960 Hermes and like Legba are kind of based off the 2152 01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:48.720 same principle, they're completely different entities. So there is this 2153 01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:52.039 kind of like when the energy you put into them 2154 01:40:52.119 --> 01:40:56.199 kind of creates them a certain way. But but but 2155 01:40:56.239 --> 01:40:58.199 they're still based on the same principles. 2156 01:40:58.319 --> 01:41:00.840 But even but there's just but there's still completely different, 2157 01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:01.960 completely different. 2158 01:41:02.159 --> 01:41:07.159 You know, like like Raphael, you know, he's the angel 2159 01:41:07.199 --> 01:41:11.279 for the planet Mercury, completely different than Hermes, completely different. 2160 01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:15.920 You know, so the same with like Michael for the Sun, 2161 01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:20.720 completely different than Apollo or a Sclippius or you know whoever. 2162 01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:26.399 Raw Benjamin said, what type of offering would you advise? 2163 01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:28.000 I imagine that's for pime On. 2164 01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:31.760 Yeah, oh yeah, I mean even just candles and incense 2165 01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:34.920 will be fine for someone who's like squeamish, you know, 2166 01:41:35.319 --> 01:41:38.199 that kind of stuff. If you're doing anything outside or 2167 01:41:38.199 --> 01:41:39.920 if you're going to burn your sigil outside I would 2168 01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:42.680 pour a libation like maybe brew some tea or some 2169 01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:48.359 moonshine or which I'm actually distilling fresh batch of moushine 2170 01:41:48.439 --> 01:41:48.720 right now. 2171 01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:50.159 I think it'll be ready. 2172 01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:54.479 I think, yeah, that's something else I recommend for people 2173 01:41:54.479 --> 01:41:57.359 that are doing magic, dude, start making moonshine. Or people 2174 01:41:57.359 --> 01:42:00.279 that drink alcohol. You know, I don't drink, drink a 2175 01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:02.439 couple of times this year after like ten years, I'm. 2176 01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:05.000 Not drinking eleven years. Actually I'm not drinking. 2177 01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:08.000 Measured a couple of times this year finally, But yeah, 2178 01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:11.319 I recommend everyone make moonshine first of all. 2179 01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:13.520 You know, because it's super easy and super cheap, you know, 2180 01:42:13.800 --> 01:42:14.640 and it's. 2181 01:42:14.439 --> 01:42:18.239 Fun if you like alcohol for sure, well and especially. 2182 01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:22.920 For so getting back to it, if you know, a 2183 01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:25.800 drop of blood with like a diabetic lancet put on 2184 01:42:25.840 --> 01:42:27.600 a piece of paper and then just burnt into the 2185 01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:30.399 candle or whatever. I mean, that's something that will help. 2186 01:42:31.399 --> 01:42:33.760 But you know, candles, incense, maybe a drop or two 2187 01:42:33.760 --> 01:42:37.119 of blood. If you're not squeamish about blood and diabetic lances, 2188 01:42:37.119 --> 01:42:38.520 you know, they don't hurt, they don't leave a scar. 2189 01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:41.520 You know, all you need is a few drops or 2190 01:42:41.920 --> 01:42:48.039 poor elevation, anything, anything, anything works okay, but there is 2191 01:42:48.079 --> 01:42:49.199 a there is an. 2192 01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:51.760 Added bonus to using blood. Blood does seem to like. 2193 01:42:52.319 --> 01:42:56.119 And honestly like if you're going to do it beforehand, 2194 01:42:56.680 --> 01:42:57.640 you know, so like say. 2195 01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:00.800 You make the offering up front instead of after the fact. 2196 01:43:01.840 --> 01:43:04.000 You can write what you want on a little tiny 2197 01:43:04.079 --> 01:43:06.359 strip of paper and then put a drop of blood 2198 01:43:06.399 --> 01:43:08.960 on it and then say it out loud and then 2199 01:43:08.960 --> 01:43:10.359 burn it. So that way, they drop of blood is 2200 01:43:10.399 --> 01:43:13.359 an offering. Plus it's adding the extra energy to the 2201 01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:15.399 petition and you're just closing it out right there and 2202 01:43:15.439 --> 01:43:16.720 just wait for it to manifest, you know. 2203 01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:20.359 You know, But I'm I'm really think even. 2204 01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:22.439 Just working with them as an offering because you're putting 2205 01:43:22.439 --> 01:43:23.520 a lot of energy into it. 2206 01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:25.359 I think one of these days I'm gonna try a 2207 01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:26.880 little blood magic. Just see what happens. 2208 01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:27.520 Are you going to do it? 2209 01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:28.520 Just see what happened? 2210 01:43:29.239 --> 01:43:31.960 I feel like there is something extra with that. Just 2211 01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:33.840 the thought of that is like, oh, I don't know, 2212 01:43:33.880 --> 01:43:35.079 I don't know if I want to even though it's 2213 01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:36.279 just a little drop, you know. 2214 01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:38.399 So when I work with a lot of spirits, though, 2215 01:43:38.560 --> 01:43:41.640 I'll use my vampire box and I'll do what's called 2216 01:43:41.680 --> 01:43:46.000 an energetic blood sacrifice, where I'll just take a you know, 2217 01:43:46.079 --> 01:43:51.720 a U a douchebag literally put him well, you know, uh, 2218 01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:54.439 you know, a a mark you know someone. 2219 01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:57.840 Oh okay, yeah, I thought you were talking about an 2220 01:43:57.920 --> 01:43:59.960 actual like Vagina. 2221 01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:03.920 The world's full of assholes did like to volunteer themselves 2222 01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:05.960 for this kind of thing. You know, there's there's no 2223 01:44:06.079 --> 01:44:09.199 shortere of assholes in the world. So yeah, take it, 2224 01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:11.840 take a picture of someone, stick it in the input, 2225 01:44:12.119 --> 01:44:15.159 put the put the sigil of the spirit on the output, 2226 01:44:15.279 --> 01:44:18.479 and just do an energetic blood sacrifice turning on and 2227 01:44:18.520 --> 01:44:21.239 then uh, that works super good because it's a super clean, 2228 01:44:21.319 --> 01:44:23.600 usable energy. They like it, and then it runs kind 2229 01:44:23.640 --> 01:44:26.680 of continuously, you know. And with pine Montins he's ruled 2230 01:44:26.720 --> 01:44:28.279 by the sun. You could probably even just use a 2231 01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:29.600 picture of the sun, which will have a lot more 2232 01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:32.079 energy going. So that's if you have a vampire box 2233 01:44:32.159 --> 01:44:37.000 or or a uh regular radiox box, so you can 2234 01:44:37.039 --> 01:44:39.119 just put the person in there and then just dial 2235 01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:42.720 into his life force. Put this, put the spirit on 2236 01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:52.479 the output. Yeah it's clean, you know, and uh, no blood, 2237 01:44:52.560 --> 01:44:54.159 no fuss, no must, you know. 2238 01:44:56.600 --> 01:44:58.199 Energetic sniper dude. 2239 01:44:58.760 --> 01:45:02.800 Yeah, yeah, I mean Radio Honis changes the game a lot. 2240 01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:05.159 Radio Hunts does change the game a lot, you know. 2241 01:45:06.199 --> 01:45:09.560 Ashton said, Lord Byron, what are your thoughts on meme 2242 01:45:09.720 --> 01:45:10.600 chaos magic? 2243 01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:15.359 Yeah, uh yeah, I mean I think it's real. 2244 01:45:15.399 --> 01:45:16.079 I think people do it. 2245 01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:19.399 I think it's successful. Yeah, totally absolutely. 2246 01:45:20.119 --> 01:45:21.960 And mean chaos. I don't even know what this is. 2247 01:45:22.720 --> 01:45:28.319 Yeah, basically like like meme warfare, you know, and that 2248 01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:31.319 I want to say that Pepe the fraud that people 2249 01:45:31.319 --> 01:45:33.760 call kek, you know, I want to say that was 2250 01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:36.600 created by a bunch of chaos magicians off of like. 2251 01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:37.920 Either read or Fortune. 2252 01:45:37.920 --> 01:45:39.159 I think I might have been four Chune, but I 2253 01:45:39.159 --> 01:45:42.199 think that was created by chaos magicians, you know. And 2254 01:45:42.239 --> 01:45:45.119 he's still going strong. I mean like he's fizzled out 2255 01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:47.479 a lot. But every once in a while I'll be scrolling. 2256 01:45:47.600 --> 01:45:52.000 There's that frogs there not you that little smirt to 2257 01:45:52.119 --> 01:45:52.600 go down. 2258 01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:56.199 Yeah, it reminds me of what was that that dude 2259 01:45:56.199 --> 01:45:58.880 from Lord of the Rings where there was that meme 2260 01:45:58.920 --> 01:46:01.319 that was going around where where he goes one does 2261 01:46:01.359 --> 01:46:03.760 not simply and then it was dot dot dot whatever. 2262 01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:07.840 Oh yeah, And you know, if you're if you're good 2263 01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:09.359 at means and stuff you might be able to put 2264 01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:14.640 like a subliminal message into it or yeah, you know 2265 01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:16.760 you can do you can do stuff. And then you know, 2266 01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:20.279 when it comes to like books like comic books or 2267 01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:22.680 stories or paintings, you can do what's kind of called 2268 01:46:22.720 --> 01:46:24.439 like a like a quantum sigil. 2269 01:46:25.479 --> 01:46:29.000 Uh where you you're basically it has a few names. 2270 01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:30.880 I don't think it's just called the quantum sedul. 2271 01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:32.560 But you're basically like, let's just say you write a 2272 01:46:32.600 --> 01:46:35.920 short story about you know, you being successful and having 2273 01:46:35.960 --> 01:46:39.399 an awesome relationship and you know, and so so you 2274 01:46:39.399 --> 01:46:41.800 could it's basically creating a story or like a painting 2275 01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:44.479 or something, a piece of art that other people can 2276 01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:45.039 even read. 2277 01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:47.800 But uh, where it's like activating this. 2278 01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:51.720 For you, you know, or whatever you're trying to accomplish. There 2279 01:46:51.840 --> 01:46:55.319 was this one comic book artist was a Grant Morse 2280 01:46:55.479 --> 01:46:58.479 and let's say his name is. He's an Irish guy. 2281 01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:00.960 I think he's you're an Irish or Scottish. He has 2282 01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:05.039 one of those thick your accents, but he did that 2283 01:47:05.079 --> 01:47:07.239 with like his comic But he makes comic books and 2284 01:47:07.439 --> 01:47:10.359 they're basically like quantum sigils, and some of the characters 2285 01:47:10.359 --> 01:47:11.680 are like servitors and stuff. 2286 01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:13.359 Whoa in his comic book. 2287 01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:15.159 That's cool. I like that. Gotta respect you. 2288 01:47:15.479 --> 01:47:17.640 He had a famous little kind of like speech you did, 2289 01:47:17.840 --> 01:47:19.520 kind of like lecture where he's talking about the Holy 2290 01:47:19.560 --> 01:47:22.079 Guardian Angel and stuff and how magic really works. And 2291 01:47:22.079 --> 01:47:23.800 he's like kind of drinking and stuff, and he's like 2292 01:47:23.880 --> 01:47:26.640 super kind of like fun and animated when he does it. 2293 01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:29.560 Dude, just out of curiosity. So and I was just 2294 01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:32.039 thinking about it, you know, because many of people out 2295 01:47:32.039 --> 01:47:35.720 there get tattoos, and obviously, you know, with a tattoo, 2296 01:47:35.760 --> 01:47:38.720 you're going to bleed sometimes, right, like your skin get 2297 01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:41.479 a little raw, and and obviously the ink is going 2298 01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:46.520 into your skin and everything is there. Like how long 2299 01:47:46.560 --> 01:47:49.640 would the power or the magic last if you decided 2300 01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:53.199 to put a sigil on your skin or do you 2301 01:47:53.239 --> 01:47:54.119 even advise that. 2302 01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:56.920 You know a lot of people do it, you know, 2303 01:47:57.199 --> 01:47:59.720 And I'm kind of at the point now like if 2304 01:47:59.720 --> 01:48:01.920 you're if you're gonna do it, make sure it's something 2305 01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:05.399 you're gonna want for the rest of your life. Yeah, 2306 01:48:05.479 --> 01:48:08.760 you know, make sure you know, like don't overthink it. 2307 01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:11.079 Make sure it's kind of simple and something you're gonna want. 2308 01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:14.239 You know, but because I've seen people that you know, 2309 01:48:14.479 --> 01:48:18.119 like tattooed like servatoris on them, and then later on 2310 01:48:18.479 --> 01:48:20.239 how to remove the tattoos. 2311 01:48:20.239 --> 01:48:22.279 So the only reason I ask is because you know, 2312 01:48:22.319 --> 01:48:26.000 you see people getting you know, like like Metatron's cube 2313 01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:29.239 and stuff like that, like a bunch of different geometric 2314 01:48:29.279 --> 01:48:31.760 kind of stuff, and I always wonder, is there some 2315 01:48:31.960 --> 01:48:36.039 kind of magic even almost subconsciously not even knowingly built in. 2316 01:48:36.640 --> 01:48:40.119 It's probably altering your arc field, for sure, it probably is. 2317 01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:43.600 I think it probably would on top of the intention. 2318 01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:45.479 But something like a SID is gonna be a lot 2319 01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:48.279 more specific, And especially if you're a practitioner, because you know, 2320 01:48:48.359 --> 01:48:50.600 a lot of hippies get like Metatrons cubes, I wouldn't 2321 01:48:50.600 --> 01:48:55.159 say they're like practitioners, you know, right, So so you know, 2322 01:48:55.319 --> 01:48:57.479 the amount of potency in the return you're gonna get 2323 01:48:57.479 --> 01:48:59.000 on it is probably gonna vary a little bit on 2324 01:48:59.399 --> 01:49:01.960 your personal leaf. And like if it's like a spirit 2325 01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:04.800 you work with a lot, you know, you're probably gonna 2326 01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:07.279 you know, it's probably gonna have a strong effect compared 2327 01:49:07.279 --> 01:49:10.159 to someone just getting like something tattoo because it looks cool. 2328 01:49:10.159 --> 01:49:11.039 So I think depends. 2329 01:49:11.359 --> 01:49:13.800 But even someone who gets something tattooed because it looks cool, 2330 01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:16.079 I think it's still gonna affect their org field and 2331 01:49:16.279 --> 01:49:19.399 uh you know manifest or interact with other orc fields, 2332 01:49:19.600 --> 01:49:19.880 you know. 2333 01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:23.640 Or even just in the physical. You know, someone sees 2334 01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:27.079 your tattoo and it's something so symbolically strong that it 2335 01:49:27.159 --> 01:49:30.520 affects them even you know, souconsciously and they're not even 2336 01:49:30.520 --> 01:49:32.039 aware of it. And so yeah, I. 2337 01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:33.520 Mean, what if you got some what if you got 2338 01:49:33.560 --> 01:49:37.119 something tattooed to influence people right now? Yeah, you know, 2339 01:49:37.279 --> 01:49:40.920 like a like a public speaker who wants uh like adoration, 2340 01:49:41.239 --> 01:49:45.039 that Venetian energy of being like people loving you and 2341 01:49:45.079 --> 01:49:47.000 bringing people together, right. 2342 01:49:47.039 --> 01:49:49.479 You know, but like just taking it even farther. What 2343 01:49:49.800 --> 01:49:52.239 you know, because most people, whenever they get a tattoo done, 2344 01:49:52.239 --> 01:49:54.399 they get it you know, so the the artist will 2345 01:49:54.439 --> 01:49:57.319 draw it out and it'll be drawn on transfer paper. 2346 01:49:57.319 --> 01:49:59.680 What if you were to then take that transfer paper, 2347 01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:03.079 put it into a fucking vampire box, charge it up 2348 01:50:03.119 --> 01:50:05.479 with a Sun card or something like that, Like, would 2349 01:50:05.479 --> 01:50:07.079 there be something extra going on there? 2350 01:50:07.720 --> 01:50:11.399 You know, something that I wanted to do, especially when 2351 01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:14.479 Sean mentioned he does tattoos and stuff, was to take 2352 01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:18.479 to take the tattoo ink and program it with radionics 2353 01:50:18.479 --> 01:50:20.079 for whatever purpose you want. 2354 01:50:19.960 --> 01:50:21.199 And then tattoo it. 2355 01:50:21.399 --> 01:50:22.279 You know, that's the move. 2356 01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:23.880 So you can make a schigule. 2357 01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:27.199 For like prosperity, program the crap out of it with radionics, 2358 01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:28.520 tattoo it in. 2359 01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:31.760 Yeah, I think I'm gonna need a vampire box now. 2360 01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:34.439 Is just gonna have to be done this way? 2361 01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:36.199 Yeah, of course. 2362 01:50:36.479 --> 01:50:39.199 Yeah, dude, you might be able to charge extra money 2363 01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:42.079 for the service to get good at it, you know, 2364 01:50:42.159 --> 01:50:44.479 and you get you get a little bit of a following. 2365 01:50:44.439 --> 01:50:47.840 For sure, for literally the rest of your life. I 2366 01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:48.680 got it right here. 2367 01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:51.960 Just chug the whole bottle of ink, dude, everyone's getting 2368 01:50:51.960 --> 01:50:52.359 some of that. 2369 01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:55.399 I thought it'd be cool to get into guitar making 2370 01:50:55.640 --> 01:51:00.680 and turn a guitar into a servitor, you know, so 2371 01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:01.680 so the guitar is like a. 2372 01:51:01.640 --> 01:51:04.960 Living entity helping the musician justh red balls, you know. 2373 01:51:08.279 --> 01:51:12.079 Yeah, that'd be a fun idea. Well, look, Byron, I 2374 01:51:12.079 --> 01:51:14.680 think we're going to get ready for that meditation, sir. 2375 01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:18.479 It's about that time. But first before we do that, Sean, 2376 01:51:18.880 --> 01:51:19.279 we got. 2377 01:51:19.199 --> 01:51:22.760 A tarot card, sir. It is no surprise we got 2378 01:51:23.199 --> 01:51:25.479 Byron gesture on with us. We got the Harror Fan. 2379 01:51:25.880 --> 01:51:28.239 No, you knew that that was going to happen to. 2380 01:51:28.399 --> 01:51:30.680 Yeah, yeah, that's my card man. 2381 01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:34.880 Yeah. Uh, that's the fifth card. And you got a 2382 01:51:34.920 --> 01:51:38.439 five pointed star. And I think you even mentioned five 2383 01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:39.600 earlier in the show. 2384 01:51:39.880 --> 01:51:42.399 My numerology is five. I'm all, I'm all five. 2385 01:51:43.039 --> 01:51:44.039 Yeah, there you go, man. 2386 01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:44.479 Yeah. 2387 01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:47.520 Hire Fan is like tourist energy, right, like. 2388 01:51:47.560 --> 01:51:49.359 Oh yeah, the horror fun Yeah, it's a trus Yeah, 2389 01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:50.039 it's a tourist energy. 2390 01:51:50.039 --> 01:51:50.279 Again. 2391 01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:55.000 So the Higher Fan sits upon a temple throne, sharing 2392 01:51:55.039 --> 01:51:58.479 his sacred knowledge with devoted pupils, as Lord Byron is 2393 01:51:58.520 --> 01:52:02.359 here to do uh. Through his connection to spirits, he 2394 01:52:02.640 --> 01:52:05.479 is the bridge between heaven and Earth. The Higher Fan 2395 01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:09.359 is an interpreter of sacred mysteries or esoteric principles, So 2396 01:52:09.439 --> 01:52:12.439 this card evokes an ongoing quest for knowledge. Much like 2397 01:52:12.439 --> 01:52:15.279 the High Priestess, the Higher Fan is in near constant 2398 01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:18.520 communication with the divine. The difference is that the High 2399 01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:22.479 Priestess channels her knowledge through her intuition, where while the 2400 01:52:22.600 --> 01:52:26.880 Higher Fan studies and learns by upholding traditions, participating in rituals, 2401 01:52:26.920 --> 01:52:30.119 and teaching ancient knowledge to others. The Higher Fan appears 2402 01:52:30.279 --> 01:52:35.079 seated on a throne in traditional religious robes, busily sharing 2403 01:52:35.239 --> 01:52:38.279 his spiritual teachings with the two figures seated before him. 2404 01:52:38.560 --> 01:52:42.079 The religious iconography, the keys and his papal staff, hand 2405 01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:45.199 position and crosses, to name a few, is symbolic of 2406 01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:48.960 his purity and devotion to his spirituality, having strong faith 2407 01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:50.960 and a set of strict principles to live by. The 2408 01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:54.560 Higher Fan is happiest following a traditional course of study. 2409 01:52:55.880 --> 01:52:59.119 Interesting, where next guy's wearing hats? Or are they bald? 2410 01:52:59.159 --> 01:53:01.840 I can't tell the the people the two guys that 2411 01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:03.560 are kind of like, I think. 2412 01:53:03.479 --> 01:53:07.600 Those are friars. Are they friars? They're the friars. Are 2413 01:53:07.600 --> 01:53:10.279 the ones that like shave that middle part of their 2414 01:53:10.319 --> 01:53:10.760 hair right? 2415 01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:11.399 Yeah? 2416 01:53:11.479 --> 01:53:12.560 The right or weight deck? 2417 01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:12.800 Yeah? 2418 01:53:12.800 --> 01:53:14.000 I think they're yeah, right. 2419 01:53:13.920 --> 01:53:16.960 Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, what's going on with that though? 2420 01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:19.600 You know, like why they just don't have hair right there? 2421 01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:22.199 You know, and hair being your like antenna, you know, 2422 01:53:22.239 --> 01:53:23.840 at least it's from af Well. 2423 01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:27.640 Some there's differing beliefs on the whole hair situation, depending 2424 01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:30.079 on what culture you go to. Some people shave their 2425 01:53:30.159 --> 01:53:34.159 head entirely because they believe that like God is is 2426 01:53:34.199 --> 01:53:36.840 gonna have easier access, doesn't have to go through your hair. 2427 01:53:37.439 --> 01:53:40.880 And the same thing with like the bowl cut, the 2428 01:53:40.960 --> 01:53:43.000 reverse bull cut, I guess is really what it is 2429 01:53:43.039 --> 01:53:45.439 when you're talking about these friars to where you know, 2430 01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:48.920 they're allowing that direct communication with the divine and they 2431 01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:50.239 don't have to worry about their hair. Am I right 2432 01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:50.560 about that? 2433 01:53:50.640 --> 01:53:50.960 Byron? 2434 01:53:52.119 --> 01:53:54.600 Yeah? Yeah? And there's also the purity aspect of it too. 2435 01:53:55.239 --> 01:53:59.399 And but you know, like like a Natives, American Indians 2436 01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:00.600 in the East, Indie and is kind of have a 2437 01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:03.239 thing where like the long hair is like a psychic antenna. 2438 01:54:03.319 --> 01:54:05.199 And yeah, you know I've always heard it. 2439 01:54:05.439 --> 01:54:07.720 Yeah, so that's kind of how I view it. 2440 01:54:07.800 --> 01:54:10.039 You know, I have a spiritual attachment and having long hair. 2441 01:54:10.479 --> 01:54:12.319 Right, I'm growing my back up working for you. 2442 01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:13.159 Yeah, dude. 2443 01:54:13.520 --> 01:54:13.640 Uh. 2444 01:54:13.760 --> 01:54:16.680 The spiritual message says you may deepen your spirituality by 2445 01:54:16.760 --> 01:54:20.680 studying healing modalities or courses and the foundations of spiritual knowledge. 2446 01:54:20.920 --> 01:54:24.199 You may even teach healing arts or offer spiritual guidance. 2447 01:54:24.399 --> 01:54:27.279 Be open to a teacher entering your life. This may 2448 01:54:27.359 --> 01:54:31.399 come in many forms. There you go, that's the Lord 2449 01:54:31.479 --> 01:54:34.680 Byron Jester For you, Lord Byron, You're to teach us 2450 01:54:34.680 --> 01:54:38.439 something man always, Lord Byron. If this is somebody's first 2451 01:54:38.520 --> 01:54:44.119 time ever hearing you, I'm sorry about that. But how 2452 01:54:44.119 --> 01:54:46.119 would they be able to find you reach out to you? 2453 01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:46.640 Uh? 2454 01:54:46.760 --> 01:54:49.520 Maybe they are interested in the radionics. Where would they 2455 01:54:49.520 --> 01:54:50.079 be able to find that? 2456 01:54:50.159 --> 01:54:50.439 Ad sir? 2457 01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:56.159 Yeah? Uh, My my main YouTube channel is may Apotheosis, 2458 01:54:57.000 --> 01:54:59.760 which now is my Apotheosis with Lord Byron Jester because 2459 01:54:59.800 --> 01:55:01.800 once I started doing interviews, now people just know me 2460 01:55:01.880 --> 01:55:07.399 as that, so you know, of course, and then my 2461 01:55:07.760 --> 01:55:10.359 my Etsy page is my Apotheosis. I prefer people who're 2462 01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:12.760 just going through me direct, so you can just contact 2463 01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:14.720 me direct. Instagram is a good place to get get 2464 01:55:14.720 --> 01:55:18.319 a hold of me, you know, so very well. And 2465 01:55:18.399 --> 01:55:21.279 that's Lord Byron Jester, all lowercase, all one word. 2466 01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:22.239 You know you'll find me. 2467 01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:26.000 All right, Well, this was awesome, Byron. I'm sure you are. 2468 01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:27.840 You gonna be sticking around for the meditation. 2469 01:55:28.319 --> 01:55:29.720 Yeah, I'll stick around for a little bit. 2470 01:55:30.279 --> 01:55:31.039 Yeah yeah. 2471 01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:34.560 Well it's always better whenever more people are here to 2472 01:55:34.760 --> 01:55:37.159 charge that boy up, you know. So let's just try 2473 01:55:37.199 --> 01:55:40.439 and meet in the astral world and just get real strange. 2474 01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:44.000 But anyhow, Happy Halloween to everybody that's listening to this. 2475 01:55:44.119 --> 01:55:46.319 We appreciate you listening to us on this day, and 2476 01:55:46.680 --> 01:55:50.119 uh we love you and Sean. Any parting words for. 2477 01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:53.000 You, sir, oh man, this was just a blasting time 2478 01:55:53.039 --> 01:55:55.279 we get the gesture on. You know, I already know 2479 01:55:55.359 --> 01:55:57.600 it's gonna be a good time, so you cracked me up. 2480 01:55:57.680 --> 01:55:57.920 Dude. 2481 01:55:58.279 --> 01:56:01.680 You know, I just love you and thanks for thanks 2482 01:56:01.720 --> 01:56:03.760 for joining. Well, next time we'll make sure it doesn't 2483 01:56:03.760 --> 01:56:06.600 take what more than three months, you know, but shame 2484 01:56:06.680 --> 01:56:09.800 on us. Thanks for thanks for blessing us with your presence, dude. 2485 01:56:10.199 --> 01:56:11.640 Yeah, thanks for having me on. 2486 01:56:11.800 --> 01:56:13.640 Man, you guys kind of started the whole ball from you, 2487 01:56:13.720 --> 01:56:14.760 so you. 2488 01:56:14.800 --> 01:56:17.199 Know, of course, anytime, man, yeah, hell yeah. 2489 01:56:17.279 --> 01:56:19.079 Well look we're about to get over to that meditation. 2490 01:56:19.159 --> 01:56:20.720 If you want to be a part of that meditation 2491 01:56:20.840 --> 01:56:23.239 to come over to patreon dot com slash metamistics. That 2492 01:56:23.319 --> 01:56:25.520 link is down on the show notes below. If you 2493 01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:27.359 go over there. We have a couple of different tiers, 2494 01:56:27.399 --> 01:56:29.239 but if you sign up for the Wonder Wiz Day tier, 2495 01:56:29.319 --> 01:56:31.640 that'll give you access to literally everything that we offer. 2496 01:56:32.399 --> 01:56:34.800 But if you're not interested in joining on the live shows, 2497 01:56:34.840 --> 01:56:36.840 totally understandable. We have a tier for that. It is 2498 01:56:36.960 --> 01:56:38.840 three dollars and thirty three cents a month. It is 2499 01:56:39.479 --> 01:56:42.279 I mean, you can't buy anything these days for three 2500 01:56:42.319 --> 01:56:46.279 dollars and thirty three cents, let alone an entire month 2501 01:56:46.439 --> 01:56:49.159 worth of shows here. That is only going to deepen 2502 01:56:49.279 --> 01:56:53.800 your spiritual understanding, Okay, And so yeah, go ahead check 2503 01:56:53.840 --> 01:56:57.520 it out. Also, if anybody would be kind to leave 2504 01:56:57.600 --> 01:57:00.880 a review on Apple or Spotify, all that really helps 2505 01:57:00.920 --> 01:57:03.920 the algorithm. Also go check out our Instagram and our 2506 01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:08.279 TikTok metamistics one one one I believe is our Instagram, 2507 01:57:08.359 --> 01:57:11.800 and I think our TikTok is just metamistics. So yeah, 2508 01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:13.880 we would appreciate that. But look, we're about to get 2509 01:57:13.880 --> 01:57:16.359 over to the to the meditation, and what we like 2510 01:57:16.479 --> 01:57:16.960 to say is. 2511 01:57:17.079 --> 01:57:20.000 If Lord Byron came here and he's on you anything, 2512 01:57:20.520 --> 01:57:23.840 it's that you don't know what you don't know, So 2513 01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:25.159 don't just get weird. 2514 01:57:26.199 --> 01:57:27.119 Stay weird. 2515 01:57:31.880 --> 01:57:32.039 Was it. 2516 01:57:33.760 --> 01:57:36.159 Was a nice man? I can't say that I was 2517 01:57:36.239 --> 01:57:39.880 seen without my eyes yet, you know, but no, it's 2518 01:57:39.920 --> 01:57:41.720 pretty pretty cool, man. It's good to be in the 2519 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:44.760 complete darkness, Like it's so much easier to get to 2520 01:57:44.920 --> 01:57:49.600 that in betwixt, you know, because there's no I don't know, 2521 01:57:50.039 --> 01:57:52.760 you're not you're not staring into the lights through your eyelids. 2522 01:57:52.840 --> 01:57:56.520 It's just pitch black, dude, almost like void, like you know, 2523 01:57:56.760 --> 01:57:59.640 it seems like when you're there, it's a it's a 2524 01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:02.600 my easier place to create, kind of create your own 2525 01:58:02.640 --> 01:58:05.239 little world, you know, like a very blank. 2526 01:58:05.079 --> 01:58:10.279 Slate, and you're in this new place, you know, like 2527 01:58:10.359 --> 01:58:10.800 the author. 2528 01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:14.880 Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking about too, you know. 2529 01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:20.359 And that was great, man. I imagined you know, you've 2530 01:58:20.359 --> 01:58:25.159 seen Beetlejuice, right the first one. Okay, I figured I 2531 01:58:25.319 --> 01:58:27.479 was gonna be a little bit upset actually if if 2532 01:58:27.520 --> 01:58:31.159 you had, But actually, good, I enjoyed that one. Oh yeah, 2533 01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:34.199 it was good. You know the little the little uh 2534 01:58:34.680 --> 01:58:38.079 figurines or structure what are they called sculptures that she 2535 01:58:38.479 --> 01:58:44.079 creates the mom you know, the weird look and yeah, 2536 01:58:44.279 --> 01:58:48.079 so I imagined, you know, my those negative thoughts or 2537 01:58:48.199 --> 01:58:50.239 whatever you know, it was. I won't go into it. 2538 01:58:50.319 --> 01:58:52.319 As far as what I kind of wanted to get 2539 01:58:52.399 --> 01:58:55.039 rid of. I imagine it was the one you know 2540 01:58:55.239 --> 01:58:58.000 that was like it had like a brick hanging from it, 2541 01:58:58.119 --> 01:59:00.920 but it had like tentacles or something. And at some 2542 01:59:01.000 --> 01:59:03.640 point in the movie, it actually like grabs the dude, 2543 01:59:03.840 --> 01:59:06.079 you know, and it holds him or whatever. And so 2544 01:59:06.119 --> 01:59:10.640 I imagined the thing the shape was was that pretty much, 2545 01:59:10.720 --> 01:59:12.279 you know, but it was made of wood, and the 2546 01:59:12.359 --> 01:59:15.319 wood was kind of like ugly, and you know, because 2547 01:59:15.359 --> 01:59:18.279 it was like a negative type of thing. So but 2548 01:59:18.359 --> 01:59:20.600 it was made out of wood. And so that's the 2549 01:59:20.720 --> 01:59:22.800 thing that I threw into the fire. And I don't know, 2550 01:59:22.840 --> 01:59:25.520 it's pretty cool. I don't think that. I don't know 2551 01:59:25.640 --> 01:59:28.680 for sure if in that video it was showing fire, 2552 01:59:28.800 --> 01:59:31.359 but of course I was kind of imagining it, and 2553 01:59:31.920 --> 01:59:35.079 in that blank slate of a you know, a realm 2554 01:59:35.600 --> 01:59:37.800 that I was kind of creating, I almost felt like 2555 01:59:37.920 --> 01:59:41.000 I could almost see, you know, like the fire and 2556 01:59:41.399 --> 01:59:44.159 like the little embers kind of going up into the air, 2557 01:59:44.279 --> 01:59:47.359 you know, the energy of that negative thing that I released. 2558 01:59:47.479 --> 01:59:49.760 You know, it's like I can't destroy the energy, but 2559 01:59:49.800 --> 01:59:52.359 I can at least push it away, you know, let 2560 01:59:52.399 --> 01:59:55.560 it go somewhere else. And uh yeah, man, I mean 2561 01:59:55.560 --> 01:59:58.600 that's pretty much alchemy, man, you know, basically it is 2562 01:59:58.640 --> 01:59:59.039 what that was. 2563 01:59:59.199 --> 02:00:00.960 Well transmute, I like it. 2564 02:00:01.159 --> 02:00:04.359 That's it, yeah, dude, Yeah, yeah, anything crazy though, you know, 2565 02:00:04.520 --> 02:00:07.920 nothing you know, it was cool though using the blindfold, 2566 02:00:08.119 --> 02:00:10.119 and I was also thinking, like in the very beginning, 2567 02:00:10.600 --> 02:00:13.359 I was like, man, what a what a reality I've 2568 02:00:13.439 --> 02:00:16.680 created for myself here I am meditating with a blindfold, 2569 02:00:17.159 --> 02:00:21.039 you know, going through a guided meditation on our podcast, 2570 02:00:21.319 --> 02:00:23.039 like I don't know, on a. 2571 02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:27.119 Live show, yeah, dude, yeah, a live show. Yeah yeah. Yeah. 2572 02:00:27.199 --> 02:00:31.000 For me, I kind of went off script there because 2573 02:00:31.119 --> 02:00:33.199 as soon as she mentioned and I started hearing the 2574 02:00:33.319 --> 02:00:36.399 crackling of the of the bonfire or whatever was going 2575 02:00:36.439 --> 02:00:40.359 on there. Man, that really like I was all the 2576 02:00:40.439 --> 02:00:44.239 way in with that fire. Yeah, and I just started 2577 02:00:44.680 --> 02:00:48.720 I remembered a specific bonfire that I went to whenever 2578 02:00:48.760 --> 02:00:52.199 I was like fifteen years old, and all my friends 2579 02:00:52.239 --> 02:00:54.880 from school were there. It was at my girlfriend at 2580 02:00:54.880 --> 02:00:58.600 the time. It was at her house, and just dude, 2581 02:00:58.640 --> 02:01:00.680 it was like, you know, we were all sneaking off 2582 02:01:00.680 --> 02:01:03.119 into the woods to go smoke cigarettes and trying to 2583 02:01:03.199 --> 02:01:05.159 hide from the parents and all that kind of stuff. 2584 02:01:05.239 --> 02:01:06.960 You know, were the cool kids, huh? 2585 02:01:07.960 --> 02:01:13.600 We thought we were anyway, and just good times, you know. 2586 02:01:14.600 --> 02:01:16.439 And so it's crazy that, you know, I haven't even 2587 02:01:16.520 --> 02:01:19.239 thought about that for forever, but the amount of details 2588 02:01:19.279 --> 02:01:22.560 that you can remember from something that happened, what is 2589 02:01:22.600 --> 02:01:26.920 that now twenty years ago? You know, and I haven't 2590 02:01:27.039 --> 02:01:29.199 thought about it at all, but you know, here it is. 2591 02:01:29.359 --> 02:01:32.520 It's still locked up in here somewhere, or in here 2592 02:01:32.640 --> 02:01:37.439 somewhere wherever the aura is, right, Yeah, yeah, So yeah, 2593 02:01:37.439 --> 02:01:39.880 I was just kind of tapped into that and you know, 2594 02:01:40.079 --> 02:01:44.000 really went into a very deep meditation, very relaxing, you know, 2595 02:01:44.119 --> 02:01:46.399 and it's kind of dangerous if you get in there, 2596 02:01:46.760 --> 02:01:50.439 you know, because you get so relaxed that you are 2597 02:01:50.560 --> 02:01:53.560 having an experience, but you're in such a like such 2598 02:01:53.600 --> 02:01:57.640 a super deep meditation to where you almost forget the 2599 02:01:57.760 --> 02:02:01.520 details you ever have that happened, like to where you're 2600 02:02:01.640 --> 02:02:04.159 in such a deep meditation to where you're like, man, 2601 02:02:04.199 --> 02:02:06.319 I know, I was just experiencing something, but what the 2602 02:02:06.399 --> 02:02:08.560 hell was it? You know, and you come up out 2603 02:02:08.600 --> 02:02:11.119 of it. Yeah, And so I always try. 2604 02:02:11.000 --> 02:02:13.199 And thinks that are just for you. You know, it's 2605 02:02:13.239 --> 02:02:16.560 there somewhere, you know, you don't necessarily need to articulate it. 2606 02:02:16.760 --> 02:02:19.000 But yeah, it was a I mean, it was a 2607 02:02:19.039 --> 02:02:22.439 comfort thing for sure. And dude, you know, there's so 2608 02:02:22.560 --> 02:02:26.239 many people that don't meditate and they're just missing out. Dude, 2609 02:02:26.279 --> 02:02:30.000 on that, you know, like the amazing things that go 2610 02:02:30.239 --> 02:02:34.560 on within you know, whatever wherever you're going in meditation, 2611 02:02:34.960 --> 02:02:38.159 like there is things to be seen, and there's things 2612 02:02:38.239 --> 02:02:41.319 to be remembered, and there's things to feel, and you know, 2613 02:02:41.479 --> 02:02:44.479 I even would, dude, I was in that meditation, I 2614 02:02:44.720 --> 02:02:49.520 was feeling what I felt twenty years ago, which. 2615 02:02:49.439 --> 02:02:51.840 Is like right, you know, and you triggered that with 2616 02:02:51.960 --> 02:02:52.560 your own mind. 2617 02:02:52.640 --> 02:02:57.920 Dude, how do you remember a feeling from twenty years ago? 2618 02:02:58.159 --> 02:03:00.640 Like that was the first time that's happened. I don't 2619 02:03:00.800 --> 02:03:02.439 That might have been the first time I've ever felt 2620 02:03:02.680 --> 02:03:05.319 like something like that to where, you know, just like 2621 02:03:06.159 --> 02:03:09.319 the vibe of the party and you know, a couple 2622 02:03:09.319 --> 02:03:11.800 of my friends over, you know, just being goofing off 2623 02:03:11.920 --> 02:03:14.760 or whatever as fifteen year olds, do you know, Yeah, 2624 02:03:16.039 --> 02:03:19.399 and just the whole thing. It was just a man, 2625 02:03:19.840 --> 02:03:22.079 I felt like it was like fucking inception or something 2626 02:03:22.119 --> 02:03:22.399 going on. 2627 02:03:23.199 --> 02:03:23.359 Yeah. 2628 02:03:23.359 --> 02:03:25.000 I think the only other time that you can really 2629 02:03:25.199 --> 02:03:27.199 I mean, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there's a lot of 2630 02:03:27.199 --> 02:03:29.279 different ways, but just one that comes to mind as 2631 02:03:29.319 --> 02:03:32.920 far as remembering a feeling and actually feeling that feeling 2632 02:03:33.079 --> 02:03:36.520 is like a particular smell, you know, like for me 2633 02:03:36.680 --> 02:03:39.079 for whatever reason. The cars that we had when I 2634 02:03:39.199 --> 02:03:42.399 was growing up, one of them burned oil, and you 2635 02:03:42.479 --> 02:03:45.479 know when a car's burning oil, it's a very distinct smell, 2636 02:03:46.079 --> 02:03:49.000 and like that smell always takes me back to just 2637 02:03:49.079 --> 02:03:51.279 being a kid, you know, and there's like a feeling. 2638 02:03:51.359 --> 02:03:54.199 I can't describe it, but it's just it's just there. 2639 02:03:55.159 --> 02:03:55.640 Oh yeah. 2640 02:03:56.319 --> 02:03:58.159 But yeah, as far as speaking on people that don't 2641 02:03:58.159 --> 02:04:00.279 meditate and they're missing out, they really are. You know. 2642 02:04:00.399 --> 02:04:03.720 It's like, how often do you set the intention to 2643 02:04:04.600 --> 02:04:07.199 go into the depths of your own mind. We already 2644 02:04:07.279 --> 02:04:10.920 know how complex the human brain is, and so all 2645 02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:13.680 of the different layers and just things that are happening 2646 02:04:13.720 --> 02:04:16.079 in there that you're just unaware of, and so taking 2647 02:04:16.159 --> 02:04:18.800 the time to just put your awareness there for a 2648 02:04:18.840 --> 02:04:20.680 little bit can be interesting. 2649 02:04:20.760 --> 02:04:23.520 Sometimes I'm not even converse that it's happening in the 2650 02:04:23.640 --> 02:04:28.239 mind at this point, Like honestly, like I feel like 2651 02:04:28.520 --> 02:04:31.479 we're just you know, because if you think about it, 2652 02:04:31.800 --> 02:04:33.760 and maybe there are some brain scans that will show 2653 02:04:33.800 --> 02:04:36.760 some activity whenever you're in meditation, I'm sure there is, right, 2654 02:04:37.079 --> 02:04:42.520 but it almost feels like it's away from physical life, 2655 02:04:43.359 --> 02:04:45.439 you know what I'm saying like, it doesn't feel like 2656 02:04:45.640 --> 02:04:49.319 i'mlike dot in my brain or anything like that. Like 2657 02:04:49.399 --> 02:04:55.000 it feels like you're tapping into something that has always exists, 2658 02:04:55.039 --> 02:04:58.720 the physical you know, Yeah, you just happened into something 2659 02:04:58.760 --> 02:05:01.359 that has like always a existed and even the things 2660 02:05:01.399 --> 02:05:05.239 that you thought were gone are still there. Man, It's 2661 02:05:05.359 --> 02:05:08.640 just so crazy. And yeah, as far as that smell, dude, 2662 02:05:08.640 --> 02:05:12.159 you want to say, there's some smell really bring me 2663 02:05:12.359 --> 02:05:15.720 all the way back in time. Like so, I recently, 2664 02:05:15.960 --> 02:05:19.079 like last month, I bought a two thousand and one 2665 02:05:19.159 --> 02:05:24.920 Ford Ranger, And dude, love that truck. I always love 2666 02:05:25.039 --> 02:05:28.840 like the smaller trucks. They're so much fun. And but 2667 02:05:29.199 --> 02:05:31.920 growing up, that's what my dad had, that same exact year, 2668 02:05:32.079 --> 02:05:33.279 that same exact model. 2669 02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:33.600 It is. 2670 02:05:33.720 --> 02:05:36.479 That truck is what my dad had, and except for 2671 02:05:36.560 --> 02:05:37.920 he had a black one, I have a white one. 2672 02:05:38.439 --> 02:05:42.880 And dude, getting in there, it smells exactly like my 2673 02:05:43.000 --> 02:05:45.520 dad's truck, And I was like, how do I even. 2674 02:05:45.479 --> 02:05:47.840 Remember what that smell smells like? 2675 02:05:48.239 --> 02:05:51.960 You know, so weird. And then like my grandma used 2676 02:05:52.000 --> 02:05:54.720 to always wear this one perfume and every so often 2677 02:05:54.760 --> 02:05:56.560 I'm in wal Mart or I go somewhere and I 2678 02:05:56.760 --> 02:05:59.840 smell it, and I'm like, you're like, because it's not. 2679 02:06:00.000 --> 02:06:02.239 It took a very popular one, you know. It's like 2680 02:06:02.279 --> 02:06:06.560 an it's an old woman perfume, you know, yes, and man, 2681 02:06:06.640 --> 02:06:07.680 you spell, I just take. 2682 02:06:07.560 --> 02:06:10.159 Exactly the one you're talking about. You might, you may. 2683 02:06:10.520 --> 02:06:13.239 I know that one. Every once in a while you 2684 02:06:13.319 --> 02:06:16.279 catch it. You're like Grandma, you know, like, yeah, where 2685 02:06:16.319 --> 02:06:16.479 are you? 2686 02:06:16.640 --> 02:06:18.720 I know you're in this waltmart And she always wore 2687 02:06:18.760 --> 02:06:22.960 the same one for like my whole life. So, man, 2688 02:06:23.119 --> 02:06:28.800 really really weird the mind, the unconscious, the subconscious, the conscious, wherever, 2689 02:06:29.000 --> 02:06:31.800 you know, whatever that is. Man to be able to 2690 02:06:31.920 --> 02:06:34.880 just success to have access to that. And just to 2691 02:06:34.960 --> 02:06:36.760 go back to what I was saying, you know, there's 2692 02:06:36.800 --> 02:06:39.760 some people that just can't meditate. They say that they 2693 02:06:39.840 --> 02:06:41.960 can't meditate because they can't get out of their own way. 2694 02:06:42.000 --> 02:06:43.920 And I'm like, it just takes me back to my 2695 02:06:44.000 --> 02:06:47.119 first time, like my first time ever trying to meditate. 2696 02:06:47.840 --> 02:06:50.279 I sucked at it. I was going nowhere. There was 2697 02:06:50.359 --> 02:06:52.600 nothing that was happening because I was paying too much 2698 02:06:52.640 --> 02:06:54.800 attention to my thoughts and all that kind of stuff. 2699 02:06:54.880 --> 02:06:57.840 Right and and after a while, and I was so 2700 02:06:58.079 --> 02:07:01.039 dedicated to learning how to do this, Like, whenever I 2701 02:07:01.119 --> 02:07:03.880 get obsessed about something, you can't take me off that path, 2702 02:07:04.000 --> 02:07:07.199 Like I'm I get obsessed about stuff, you know what 2703 02:07:07.239 --> 02:07:10.920 I mean? And sometimes to my detriment, But in this case, 2704 02:07:11.000 --> 02:07:14.560 it was really good. And so and dude, I remember 2705 02:07:14.680 --> 02:07:18.279 trying for like a week, every night, for forty five 2706 02:07:18.319 --> 02:07:20.800 minutes to an hour every single night, right before I 2707 02:07:20.840 --> 02:07:23.000 would go to bed, I would try it, and it 2708 02:07:23.000 --> 02:07:25.239 would it was always, you know, in front of I 2709 02:07:25.239 --> 02:07:28.359 would I would actually turn YouTube on on my TV 2710 02:07:28.600 --> 02:07:30.279 and I wouldn't even wear headphones. I would just turn 2711 02:07:30.319 --> 02:07:32.319 it on the TV and sit there, like because I 2712 02:07:32.439 --> 02:07:35.439 was home alone most of the time, and and so 2713 02:07:35.479 --> 02:07:36.840 I would just sit there and I'd be like, it's 2714 02:07:36.880 --> 02:07:38.520 gonna happen. I know it's going to happen. Then I 2715 02:07:38.560 --> 02:07:41.079 started listening to sad Guru and Delor's Canon, and then 2716 02:07:41.359 --> 02:07:43.840 they kind of help me understand how to do it 2717 02:07:43.920 --> 02:07:45.840 a little bit more. And I was like, oh, so 2718 02:07:46.039 --> 02:07:49.319 I just have to not think about anything. And and 2719 02:07:49.479 --> 02:07:51.960 for some reason that was like an epiphany moment, you know, 2720 02:07:52.119 --> 02:07:54.039 because I thought, Oh, we're trying to get to this 2721 02:07:54.159 --> 02:07:56.119 place or we're trying to you know what. I mean, 2722 02:07:56.279 --> 02:08:00.239 but the goal is don't try anything, you know, like 2723 02:08:00.680 --> 02:08:04.239 don't try it's actually like the absence of trying, you know. 2724 02:08:04.439 --> 02:08:08.720 And and so yeah, once once that happened, dude. It 2725 02:08:08.840 --> 02:08:12.199 was in like my first month ever meditating, I had 2726 02:08:12.239 --> 02:08:17.640 a Condolini experience to where I, oh, dude, I was 2727 02:08:17.680 --> 02:08:21.800 spinning like out of control, and I felt the motion 2728 02:08:22.159 --> 02:08:23.640 of like just spinning. 2729 02:08:23.399 --> 02:08:26.479 Like I was on like some kind of you know, 2730 02:08:27.000 --> 02:08:28.239 ride faster and faster. 2731 02:08:28.439 --> 02:08:30.319 It was going faster and faster, and I almost like 2732 02:08:30.399 --> 02:08:32.439 I started to feel like I was getting sick from 2733 02:08:32.640 --> 02:08:35.720 the motion from it, you know. And then after a 2734 02:08:35.760 --> 02:08:37.760 couple of nights of working with it, I understood that 2735 02:08:37.840 --> 02:08:40.000 I can, like I can change up the speed and 2736 02:08:40.119 --> 02:08:41.960 I can make it slower and I can make it faster. 2737 02:08:42.039 --> 02:08:44.920 And it was blowing my mind, you know. And of 2738 02:08:45.039 --> 02:08:47.159 course at that time, dude, I was meditating every day, 2739 02:08:47.640 --> 02:08:49.399 like every single day. 2740 02:08:49.479 --> 02:08:51.039 I'm You're hooked, dude. 2741 02:08:51.039 --> 02:08:52.279 I was so hooked to it, and I need to 2742 02:08:52.319 --> 02:08:54.640 get back to that because now, I mean, we do 2743 02:08:54.760 --> 02:08:57.479 the two meditations per week, but I usually I've started 2744 02:08:57.520 --> 02:09:00.359 sprinkling in one or two extra per week on top 2745 02:09:00.439 --> 02:09:04.319 of like outside of the show, and those those are 2746 02:09:04.399 --> 02:09:08.479 interesting because you know, whenever you're meditating by yourself, you know, 2747 02:09:08.560 --> 02:09:10.399 in the back of my mind because I'm in control 2748 02:09:10.520 --> 02:09:13.720 of the meditation over here and stuff like that, and 2749 02:09:13.880 --> 02:09:15.800 I know, like, all right, well, I don't want to 2750 02:09:15.800 --> 02:09:17.560 make it too long. I know some people, you know, 2751 02:09:17.640 --> 02:09:19.760 we're just trying to get a little taste of meditation 2752 02:09:19.880 --> 02:09:21.159 for ten or fifteen minutes. 2753 02:09:20.960 --> 02:09:21.399 Or something like that. 2754 02:09:22.520 --> 02:09:25.079 But whenever, you don't have to worry about that, and 2755 02:09:25.199 --> 02:09:27.119 you don't have to worry about time, and there's no 2756 02:09:27.840 --> 02:09:30.760 no mark or no limit or anything like that. Dude, 2757 02:09:31.399 --> 02:09:35.600 an hour goes by so fast in meditation, like like 2758 02:09:35.680 --> 02:09:37.760 I'll wake up and not wake up, but like get 2759 02:09:37.880 --> 02:09:40.880 up out of this meditation, and my whole body is 2760 02:09:41.079 --> 02:09:45.119 comp it's like vibratingly numb, you know what I'm saying. 2761 02:09:45.199 --> 02:09:47.439 Yeah, and maybe set your whole nervous system. 2762 02:09:47.840 --> 02:09:51.840 My throat is so dry and and my body just 2763 02:09:51.960 --> 02:09:54.399 needs to get its bones set back into place. It 2764 02:09:54.479 --> 02:09:58.359 feels like yeah, And man, those are some of the 2765 02:09:58.399 --> 02:10:00.920 best because you really go on a deep journey. And 2766 02:10:01.039 --> 02:10:04.520 so anybody that hasn't tried, dude, try and meditate for 2767 02:10:04.640 --> 02:10:07.760 forty five minutes and just see how fast it goes 2768 02:10:08.039 --> 02:10:09.560 for the first ten minutes, you're gonna be like, oh man, 2769 02:10:09.600 --> 02:10:12.359 it's gonna be pretty long, and then like you forget 2770 02:10:12.479 --> 02:10:14.880 that you're there, and then before you know it, the 2771 02:10:14.960 --> 02:10:15.760 meditation's over. 2772 02:10:16.920 --> 02:10:18.640 It's like it's a way you just get out of 2773 02:10:18.720 --> 02:10:20.680 that that state of trying get out of that that 2774 02:10:21.279 --> 02:10:24.640 that mindset of waiting for something to happen. Just just 2775 02:10:24.760 --> 02:10:27.680 try to forget about all that, you know. But it's 2776 02:10:27.800 --> 02:10:31.159 it's really interesting that you had almost a motion sickness 2777 02:10:31.479 --> 02:10:34.159 from being the most still you've probably ever been up 2778 02:10:34.239 --> 02:10:37.800 until that point. Yeah, isn't that kind of like, yeah, 2779 02:10:38.279 --> 02:10:39.239 it shouldn't make sense. 2780 02:10:39.800 --> 02:10:42.159 Well, I mean you think about like most of the 2781 02:10:42.239 --> 02:10:45.520 time that you allow your brain to relax, you're either 2782 02:10:46.560 --> 02:10:50.600 sleeping or driving for the most part, right, you know 2783 02:10:50.640 --> 02:10:55.319 what I mean. Like that's usually the nothing zones, relinquishing 2784 02:10:55.439 --> 02:10:59.760 all control. That's hard for people. Yeah, yeah, because driving 2785 02:10:59.840 --> 02:11:01.039 is pretty damn meditative. 2786 02:11:01.079 --> 02:11:04.279 Actually, you know it is. It can be. Yeah, but 2787 02:11:04.439 --> 02:11:07.640 poly hence why I hallucinated that one time. 2788 02:11:07.880 --> 02:11:10.680 Yeah, I wanted to say, dude, I experienced that too. 2789 02:11:10.760 --> 02:11:13.239 I was driving to Arizona and you know, the Arizona 2790 02:11:13.279 --> 02:11:16.199 flag like it has like the sun rays on it, right, 2791 02:11:16.880 --> 02:11:20.039 And as I was driving past the sign that said 2792 02:11:20.079 --> 02:11:23.960 Welcome to Arizona, I started to see like lights that 2793 02:11:24.039 --> 02:11:27.000 were flashing like it was vegas like as the rays. 2794 02:11:27.079 --> 02:11:29.720 So it's like a yellow like a yellow ray, and 2795 02:11:29.760 --> 02:11:31.640 then an orange ray or yellow ray, then a red 2796 02:11:31.760 --> 02:11:33.760 ray or something like that on the flag right, But 2797 02:11:33.880 --> 02:11:36.760 it was on the billboard, and I asked my mom. 2798 02:11:36.800 --> 02:11:40.880 I was like, is that a light up sign? She goes, oh, 2799 02:11:41.000 --> 02:11:43.920 you're tired, And I was like, because I was chirping 2800 02:11:43.960 --> 02:11:46.199 me out like I thought it was legit flashing. 2801 02:11:45.840 --> 02:11:48.479 At me right. Well, I think they are pretty fluorescent, 2802 02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:50.479 like for whatever reason, they got it to where, you know, 2803 02:11:50.520 --> 02:11:52.239 if a light hits it, they light up pretty good, 2804 02:11:52.399 --> 02:11:54.399 like I know which one which sign you're talking about, 2805 02:11:54.560 --> 02:11:57.279 you know. But but for it to be like fluctuating, 2806 02:11:57.319 --> 02:11:59.239 I don't know unless there was like the only I'm 2807 02:11:59.239 --> 02:12:02.000 trying to explain it like reason or physically, you know. 2808 02:12:02.079 --> 02:12:04.159 I can only think of like maybe headlights behind you 2809 02:12:04.319 --> 02:12:07.159 were you know, being blocked by your car and like 2810 02:12:07.239 --> 02:12:08.760 it was throwing throwing you off. But I don't know, 2811 02:12:08.880 --> 02:12:10.720 they don't usually flicker or anything like that. 2812 02:12:11.439 --> 02:12:14.960 Britt said. Britt said, what I want to know is 2813 02:12:15.199 --> 02:12:19.000 how do you smell stuff or taste stuff in dreams? 2814 02:12:20.600 --> 02:12:23.319 Hm? Hmm, you know it's it's weird. I don't even 2815 02:12:23.359 --> 02:12:25.800 know if I. I don't think I had trying to 2816 02:12:25.880 --> 02:12:27.960 I'm trying to think if I've even smelled anything in 2817 02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:29.840 a dream. The only the only time that I do. 2818 02:12:30.079 --> 02:12:32.079 I do know for a fact that there was some 2819 02:12:32.239 --> 02:12:34.520 sort of smelling and it only happens during like a 2820 02:12:35.079 --> 02:12:38.600 like a nightmare, like something super terrifying is happening. And 2821 02:12:39.319 --> 02:12:43.039 in those dreams, I feel like there's this very distinct 2822 02:12:43.800 --> 02:12:46.159 smell and I couldn't describe it to you if I tried, 2823 02:12:46.239 --> 02:12:49.000 But the only way I've ever explained it is it's 2824 02:12:49.119 --> 02:12:52.199 just like it just smells like fear, like the smell 2825 02:12:52.279 --> 02:12:55.079 of fear. And I know I'm in a nightmare. You know. 2826 02:12:55.600 --> 02:12:57.159 That used to happen a lot when I was a kid, 2827 02:12:58.000 --> 02:12:59.640 So I don't know. I don't know if anybody else's 2828 02:13:00.359 --> 02:13:02.399 experience that. But as far as I don't know, if 2829 02:13:02.399 --> 02:13:06.319 I've ever smelt or tasted anything in a dream, probably maybe. 2830 02:13:06.439 --> 02:13:10.960 Do you ever remember any dream eating anything? I don't know, 2831 02:13:11.239 --> 02:13:12.279 because I don't think I had. 2832 02:13:12.319 --> 02:13:18.000 I don't think so your mind's not gonna go there. 2833 02:13:18.279 --> 02:13:20.640 It doesn't need to eat, you know. I mean, what 2834 02:13:20.680 --> 02:13:22.079 if you go to bed. I don't know if I've 2835 02:13:22.119 --> 02:13:23.119 eaten anything in a dream. 2836 02:13:24.039 --> 02:13:27.199 Oh I've dreamed of food, but I don't remember if 2837 02:13:27.199 --> 02:13:29.880 I've even if I've eaten it in the dream, because 2838 02:13:29.880 --> 02:13:32.119 I know, like especially if I'm doing like a fast, 2839 02:13:32.199 --> 02:13:34.079 like a two or three day fast, I know I'll 2840 02:13:34.199 --> 02:13:37.760 dream of food, you know, but I don't know if 2841 02:13:37.760 --> 02:13:39.720 i've I don't know if I remember eating it. Yeah, 2842 02:13:39.720 --> 02:13:43.600 as far as senses, it's so strange. Ashton said, bro, 2843 02:13:43.840 --> 02:13:47.119 I've experienced both. There's weird foods and dreams that don't 2844 02:13:47.159 --> 02:13:51.319 exist here. Oh shit, right, you're gonna have to teach 2845 02:13:51.359 --> 02:13:55.359 us your ways then, you know. Yeah, yeah, maybe just 2846 02:13:55.439 --> 02:13:59.920 put put forth that that effort and see what happens. Yeah, 2847 02:14:00.399 --> 02:14:03.079 brit says, I've had I've had dreams where I'm smoking 2848 02:14:03.159 --> 02:14:05.319 a cigarette and can taste it and smell it and 2849 02:14:05.399 --> 02:14:12.079 I've never smoked. Oh interesting, dude, all right, isn't that strange? 2850 02:14:12.119 --> 02:14:17.560 I mean, like and just to and I probably said 2851 02:14:17.600 --> 02:14:23.920 this before, but like I was like, probably I don't 2852 02:14:23.920 --> 02:14:27.600 even know what age. Let me think about that. Maybe 2853 02:14:27.880 --> 02:14:29.720 twelve or thirteen years. 2854 02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:32.399 Old and I had a cigarette. 2855 02:14:32.680 --> 02:14:35.399 No, I had a sex dream. I had a sex dream. 2856 02:14:35.479 --> 02:14:37.319 I was like twelve or thirteen years old, and I 2857 02:14:37.399 --> 02:14:39.319 had never obviously I do. I didn't even lose my 2858 02:14:39.399 --> 02:14:42.760 virginia til I was seventeen, and so I wouldn't even 2859 02:14:42.920 --> 02:14:46.039 know what that would have felt like. And yet it 2860 02:14:46.479 --> 02:14:49.399 stuck with me for all those years until I eventually 2861 02:14:49.439 --> 02:14:51.399 lost my virginity and I was like, oh my god, 2862 02:14:52.159 --> 02:14:55.359 it's literally exactly what my dream was like, Like I 2863 02:14:55.560 --> 02:14:58.560 just knew that, Like, what is that like? 2864 02:14:58.680 --> 02:15:01.840 I think to me, must be like that good? You know, 2865 02:15:01.920 --> 02:15:02.720 it must feel like that. 2866 02:15:03.199 --> 02:15:07.039 I mean, it is pretty good, but I mean in fact, 2867 02:15:07.399 --> 02:15:10.640 but I mean just as far as that must to me, 2868 02:15:10.840 --> 02:15:14.119 that was like a like proof of there has to 2869 02:15:14.199 --> 02:15:18.359 be past lives, because it doesn't make sense that I 2870 02:15:18.399 --> 02:15:22.279 would have known what that felt like and then to 2871 02:15:22.560 --> 02:15:25.680 remember the entire dream for all those years and then 2872 02:15:25.880 --> 02:15:29.399 finally lose my virginity and it felt exactly the same. 2873 02:15:30.399 --> 02:15:33.279 How could I could, dude, how could I have known that? 2874 02:15:35.319 --> 02:15:38.840 That's like, you don't think it was something too like 2875 02:15:38.960 --> 02:15:40.359 I mean, I'm not saying this is what it was, 2876 02:15:40.439 --> 02:15:44.680 but like possibly you just kind of like after the fact, 2877 02:15:45.119 --> 02:15:47.399 you know, looked back and said, oh, that's what that 2878 02:15:47.479 --> 02:15:49.880 felt like in the dream. But really it was just 2879 02:15:50.000 --> 02:15:53.239 kind of like you kind of projecting what you felt 2880 02:15:53.279 --> 02:15:54.960 in the dream just from what you you know what 2881 02:15:55.000 --> 02:15:57.439 I'm saying, Like, no, no, I'm not saying that's what happened. 2882 02:15:58.479 --> 02:16:02.000 You definitely distinguished both and said, okay, they're the same. 2883 02:16:02.399 --> 02:16:05.640 Yes, you know, yeah, so much so that as soon 2884 02:16:05.840 --> 02:16:09.279 as the process started, might me losing my virginity in 2885 02:16:09.359 --> 02:16:12.920 that whole scene, right, that's what that is the first 2886 02:16:12.960 --> 02:16:15.920 thing I thought of, like, right, I should you not? 2887 02:16:16.039 --> 02:16:18.279 It was so strange. Of course, you know, I kept 2888 02:16:18.319 --> 02:16:20.279 a mental timer because I wanted to last longer than 2889 02:16:20.319 --> 02:16:22.119 five minutes. But that's neither going there. 2890 02:16:22.239 --> 02:16:27.399 But yeah, Ashton said, didn't work out either. I'm sure anyway. 2891 02:16:27.920 --> 02:16:29.640 I made it to four, actually made it to four, 2892 02:16:29.800 --> 02:16:35.079 all right, all right, impressive, Ashton said, I've had dreams 2893 02:16:35.120 --> 02:16:41.760 where I'll take acid and trip in the dream it's whacko. 2894 02:16:40.680 --> 02:16:46.040 Whoa, I'm gonna thing I've experienced similar to that was 2895 02:16:46.239 --> 02:16:49.399 just being woken up and already tripping because I took 2896 02:16:49.639 --> 02:16:52.040 the four ECO and I was super tired, dude, and 2897 02:16:52.159 --> 02:16:54.120 I don't know. Maybe I was just like, oh, I 2898 02:16:54.120 --> 02:16:56.200 don't know, maybe it's just not working. I'm not really 2899 02:16:56.239 --> 02:16:59.360 feeling anything. Went to sleep, woke up for some reason 2900 02:16:59.479 --> 02:17:01.399 why I think I know the reason. But I woke 2901 02:17:01.479 --> 02:17:05.040 up and was just in full full trip. I remember 2902 02:17:05.600 --> 02:17:08.159 because you were like that we was the weirdest thing. Dude. 2903 02:17:08.639 --> 02:17:09.520 Oh my god, you. 2904 02:17:09.559 --> 02:17:11.799 Were like, dude, how lame am? I like, I fell 2905 02:17:11.840 --> 02:17:12.520 asleep during a. 2906 02:17:12.520 --> 02:17:16.840 Trip but then woke up. But can you imagine that, dude, 2907 02:17:16.920 --> 02:17:20.000 just waking up and just being there already, And I 2908 02:17:20.159 --> 02:17:21.760 was just I don't know, I felt like I wasn't ready, 2909 02:17:22.040 --> 02:17:25.319 like I had zero time to mentally prepare, you know, 2910 02:17:25.520 --> 02:17:28.799 like even though I knew I took it, went to sleep, 2911 02:17:28.920 --> 02:17:31.280 and then woke up almost fresh, like out of nowhere, 2912 02:17:31.319 --> 02:17:34.840 boom here I am. And yeah, that was a dark one, man. 2913 02:17:34.879 --> 02:17:36.920 I felt like I was I was by myself too, 2914 02:17:37.040 --> 02:17:39.680 and I was just like I went super super in. 2915 02:17:40.520 --> 02:17:41.360 You went into your room. 2916 02:17:42.479 --> 02:17:45.319 Yeah, I went into my little yeah, my little tattoo area, 2917 02:17:45.360 --> 02:17:47.719 and I remember I was just sitting there and I 2918 02:17:47.799 --> 02:17:50.399 looked over at this painting that I have. I think 2919 02:17:50.440 --> 02:17:52.639 I got it at a yard sale, but it's like 2920 02:17:52.760 --> 02:17:54.479 it's pretty cool, you know. It's like a ship in 2921 02:17:54.520 --> 02:17:57.520 the background, and it looks like someone painting really painted it, 2922 02:17:57.680 --> 02:17:59.879 like it's not like a copy, but maybe it is. 2923 02:18:00.079 --> 02:18:02.719 But I was looking at it, and I felt like 2924 02:18:02.799 --> 02:18:05.920 I was like looking into it, you know, like I 2925 02:18:05.959 --> 02:18:09.000 felt like there was definitely like this was it wasn't 2926 02:18:09.120 --> 02:18:11.159 just a painting, Like there was definitely a whole energy 2927 02:18:11.200 --> 02:18:14.680 and a whole thing really happening there. And I don't know, 2928 02:18:14.760 --> 02:18:16.520 And then I started looking down. I was looking at 2929 02:18:16.559 --> 02:18:18.600 the concrete, and I felt like even that I can 2930 02:18:18.680 --> 02:18:21.639 look into like there was there was death in the 2931 02:18:21.799 --> 02:18:24.200 in the concrete because the room I tore off all 2932 02:18:24.280 --> 02:18:26.079 the carpet and everything else. That way I can like 2933 02:18:26.159 --> 02:18:30.639 mop the floor, you know, for for tattooing and all that. Yeah, 2934 02:18:30.719 --> 02:18:32.799 that was a That was a weird one, man, That 2935 02:18:32.920 --> 02:18:34.760 was a weird one. Being by yourself was a whole 2936 02:18:34.879 --> 02:18:36.719 different thing, man is. 2937 02:18:37.120 --> 02:18:40.040 Yeah, you know, And usually whenever I'm tripping, I like 2938 02:18:40.159 --> 02:18:42.879 to spend the first hour just in my mind and 2939 02:18:43.000 --> 02:18:46.159 then after I'll go out and walk around and stuff 2940 02:18:46.239 --> 02:18:49.040 like that. But if I if I can, which is 2941 02:18:49.120 --> 02:18:51.639 what I did last time whenever I went to bro Grove, 2942 02:18:52.520 --> 02:18:56.360 whenever me and Steph tripped, we both like we didn't 2943 02:18:56.360 --> 02:18:58.520 even talk about it, but like for the first hour 2944 02:18:58.760 --> 02:19:01.239 we kept to ourselves. She stayed on a recliner, I 2945 02:19:01.319 --> 02:19:04.520 stayed on the couch and and we just went in. 2946 02:19:05.120 --> 02:19:09.280 And man, I mean, the experiences you have on the 2947 02:19:09.319 --> 02:19:11.600 outside are awesome, don't get me wrong, Like they're great. 2948 02:19:12.120 --> 02:19:15.280 It is nothing compared to the inner world. It's not 2949 02:19:15.399 --> 02:19:17.079 even it's not even close. 2950 02:19:18.360 --> 02:19:22.200 The ship you experiences of the uh, that's where most 2951 02:19:22.280 --> 02:19:25.360 of the magic happens, you know, that's where most of 2952 02:19:25.440 --> 02:19:29.840 the transformational potential is, you know when you go there. 2953 02:19:30.280 --> 02:19:33.319 But it can be it could be weird though. Yeah, 2954 02:19:33.639 --> 02:19:35.799 that one night, I was staring into the concrete or whatever. 2955 02:19:35.879 --> 02:19:38.280 I was just like, I don't know, man, I was 2956 02:19:38.399 --> 02:19:40.719 just like looking at myself as of like I was, 2957 02:19:41.639 --> 02:19:43.879 I don't know, there was a whole thing there, but anyway, 2958 02:19:43.920 --> 02:19:44.719 it was very complex. 2959 02:19:44.879 --> 02:19:46.520 Are you talking down on yourself, Sean? 2960 02:19:47.000 --> 02:19:49.920 Yeah, I think I was, dude. You know, you know 2961 02:19:50.040 --> 02:19:53.079 me too well, dude, you know yea, Like, who am 2962 02:19:53.120 --> 02:19:56.360 I don't do that? I know, I know, I'll stop. 2963 02:19:56.840 --> 02:19:59.479 It's done, Brit said, Usually the food dreams or when 2964 02:19:59.520 --> 02:20:01.520 I'm on a and the food tastes so good. 2965 02:20:02.120 --> 02:20:02.799 Yeah, makes sense. 2966 02:20:03.799 --> 02:20:07.239 Ashton said, Mine always involved people giving me weird food, 2967 02:20:07.600 --> 02:20:10.719 giving me weird food offerings that don't exist here. And 2968 02:20:11.000 --> 02:20:14.079 one of them, mercury, was a delicacy and it was 2969 02:20:14.159 --> 02:20:17.479 served frozen and it was supposed to melt in your mouth. 2970 02:20:18.040 --> 02:20:18.520 My god. 2971 02:20:18.920 --> 02:20:22.079 Interesting. No, I think that's really actually fascinating because he 2972 02:20:22.120 --> 02:20:25.799 said it it was like food offerings. Yeah, like as if, 2973 02:20:25.959 --> 02:20:28.399 like when you're in the dream realm, you are the 2974 02:20:28.639 --> 02:20:32.719 entity that people are offering. I don't know. Wow, I 2975 02:20:32.799 --> 02:20:35.959 wonder if it is like that, all am I offering 2976 02:20:36.040 --> 02:20:39.000 to be buffalo wings, you know, one day long time 2977 02:20:39.079 --> 02:20:40.440 from now, you know, if you want to make me 2978 02:20:40.479 --> 02:20:42.319 an offering buffalo. 2979 02:20:42.399 --> 02:20:44.840 Give me a cow zone. I'll take a cow zone 2980 02:20:45.239 --> 02:20:48.760 or some perogies. Those are my two favorite foods, solid 2981 02:20:49.280 --> 02:20:52.840 solid or maybe like a little bit of kilbasa and 2982 02:20:52.959 --> 02:20:54.760 sour krout take that. 2983 02:20:54.879 --> 02:20:56.639 Too, okay, little mashed potatoes. 2984 02:20:56.799 --> 02:21:02.479 Damn, I'm hungry now, it said mine. Uh, there's usually 2985 02:21:02.479 --> 02:21:05.000 a buffet of food to choose from, and I'm so excited. 2986 02:21:05.479 --> 02:21:11.000 Probably the parasites interjecting in my dreams, dude, Honestly, I 2987 02:21:11.159 --> 02:21:13.959 just started cleansing. Over the past week, I've been taking 2988 02:21:14.120 --> 02:21:17.280 this thing called a paraguard, and it's it's meant to 2989 02:21:17.280 --> 02:21:19.920 get rid of, you know, your worms and parasites and 2990 02:21:20.479 --> 02:21:22.319 you know, clean up your gut health and all that 2991 02:21:22.479 --> 02:21:26.840 kind of stuff. And man, I do legit. I don't 2992 02:21:26.879 --> 02:21:30.319 even I went shopping earlier, and I went against my 2993 02:21:30.440 --> 02:21:33.879 cardinal rule of you know, you're not supposed to go 2994 02:21:34.079 --> 02:21:37.920 grocery shopping on an empty stomach, you know, because then you. 2995 02:21:37.920 --> 02:21:40.639 Start buying a bunch of bullshit ten items have nothing 2996 02:21:40.680 --> 02:21:43.239 to do with your plan dinners or anything like that. 2997 02:21:43.360 --> 02:21:46.799 It's like, why do I have Swiss rolls and cupcakes 2998 02:21:46.840 --> 02:21:47.520 and everything else? 2999 02:21:47.559 --> 02:21:51.319 It's yeah, Well, and dude, ever since I've been on this, 3000 02:21:51.479 --> 02:21:55.319 I haven't even craved anything bad. So it's kind of weird. 3001 02:21:55.360 --> 02:21:58.120 I feel like it's working. Like I've like I don't 3002 02:21:58.159 --> 02:22:01.360 even eat for fun, you know, like it's a it's 3003 02:22:01.399 --> 02:22:05.159 a eat because I need energy kind of thing. 3004 02:22:05.360 --> 02:22:08.120 You know. I'm sure there's that, man, But those paras 3005 02:22:08.680 --> 02:22:09.799 need to get on something like that. 3006 02:22:10.159 --> 02:22:12.760 Well, dude, those parasites, that's what they feed off of, 3007 02:22:12.879 --> 02:22:18.200 you know, they feed off of the sugar, mainly carbohydrates, right, right, 3008 02:22:18.239 --> 02:22:20.799 which just processing sugar in your gut, you know, right, 3009 02:22:22.040 --> 02:22:24.399 So yeah, it's that they must be working. I mean, 3010 02:22:24.399 --> 02:22:25.879 I've only been on it for a week. They say 3011 02:22:25.879 --> 02:22:27.680 you're supposed to do it for a month. It's like 3012 02:22:27.760 --> 02:22:33.159 these little drops and it tastes fucking god awful. But 3013 02:22:33.399 --> 02:22:37.079 it has like all natural things like like once a 3014 02:22:37.159 --> 02:22:37.479 day not. 3015 02:22:38.959 --> 02:22:39.000 No. 3016 02:22:39.200 --> 02:22:42.159 I put well, it says if you're trying to like 3017 02:22:42.319 --> 02:22:46.440 go all the way, so you're supposed to take thirty 3018 02:22:46.639 --> 02:22:50.479 drops three times a day regularly. But if you're really 3019 02:22:50.600 --> 02:22:52.239 trying to go hard in the paint, then you go 3020 02:22:52.520 --> 02:22:56.360 thirty drops four times a day, and you you know, 3021 02:22:56.440 --> 02:22:58.760 you just drop it into a little cup and then 3022 02:22:59.360 --> 02:23:01.399 it tastes so bad. I mix it with like some 3023 02:23:01.600 --> 02:23:05.959 juice or something like that. I got some zero sugar juice, 3024 02:23:06.559 --> 02:23:09.760 and I mean it still tastes horrendous, but it's better 3025 02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:12.959 than doing it. But it reminds me of Yeggermeister, which 3026 02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:20.440 is disgusting, you know. But yeah, Ashton said, just be careful, Jonathan. 3027 02:23:20.479 --> 02:23:24.200 My mom ruined her entire microbiome with experimental cleanses and 3028 02:23:24.319 --> 02:23:27.399 will never recover. Yeah, I'm actually uh so the one 3029 02:23:27.440 --> 02:23:30.799 that I'm taking, it's the idea is is that you 3030 02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:35.639 take that it's that it's called paraguard. But then you're 3031 02:23:35.680 --> 02:23:38.920 supposed to have something that I can't remember what it's 3032 02:23:38.959 --> 02:23:43.079 called now, basically the the stuff that goes into your 3033 02:23:43.120 --> 02:23:46.239 gut and collects all the dead parasitic bodies and helps 3034 02:23:46.280 --> 02:23:49.280 flush flush it out of you so that that way 3035 02:23:49.319 --> 02:23:51.840 they don't like zombifi and come back to life or whatever, 3036 02:23:52.159 --> 02:23:55.959 because usually the idea that they're like they're poisonous and 3037 02:23:56.079 --> 02:23:59.879 whenever they die, then they start to like decompose and 3038 02:24:00.159 --> 02:24:02.760 all of that poison leaks back into your body. And 3039 02:24:02.879 --> 02:24:06.639 so you need to be something. Yeah, you need something 3040 02:24:06.799 --> 02:24:09.799 to like to put in there. And it's a Beton 3041 02:24:09.879 --> 02:24:13.200 night clay. Yeah, it's a ben ben To night clay 3042 02:24:13.280 --> 02:24:17.559 or Ben's night clay or something like that. And yeah, 3043 02:24:17.600 --> 02:24:21.479 and a binder. That's the word. Yeah, it's a binder. Yeah, 3044 02:24:21.559 --> 02:24:23.799 it has Beton night clay, and it has charcoal in 3045 02:24:23.879 --> 02:24:28.040 there and all all the different binder things and yeah, 3046 02:24:28.040 --> 02:24:31.120 that's what I've been doing. And and and also in 3047 02:24:31.280 --> 02:24:34.680 the binder it has prebiotics and pro bibot and probiotics 3048 02:24:34.719 --> 02:24:38.200 in it, so it's it's not only getting rid of 3049 02:24:38.280 --> 02:24:40.200 all the bad ship, but it's pumping good stuff into 3050 02:24:40.200 --> 02:24:42.479 you at the same time, all right. And I've always 3051 02:24:42.520 --> 02:24:47.159 had like very very like horrendous stomach is like stomach issues. 3052 02:24:47.639 --> 02:24:51.440 Like how long you've been doing it? Now, like a week? Okay, 3053 02:24:51.520 --> 02:24:53.840 I'm supposed to do it. You've already noticed like somewhat 3054 02:24:53.840 --> 02:24:54.840 of a of a change. 3055 02:24:56.079 --> 02:24:58.600 Yeah, I mean I think so. I don't have the 3056 02:24:58.639 --> 02:25:01.399 same cravings anymore. They say that's usually the number one sign. 3057 02:25:02.399 --> 02:25:04.799 Yeah, yeah, I definitely feel like I need to get 3058 02:25:04.920 --> 02:25:07.000 I need to do something because I feel like, and 3059 02:25:07.079 --> 02:25:08.959 maybe it's because I'm getting older, but I just feel 3060 02:25:09.000 --> 02:25:11.239 like I've got a lot of inflammation and things that 3061 02:25:11.319 --> 02:25:11.920 are hurting that. 3062 02:25:12.799 --> 02:25:12.920 Man. 3063 02:25:13.000 --> 02:25:14.879 I used to play basketball and I used to be 3064 02:25:14.920 --> 02:25:17.200 able to run, and dude, I don't even remember the 3065 02:25:17.280 --> 02:25:20.280 last time that I full sprinted, you know me neither. 3066 02:25:20.280 --> 02:25:22.200 I mean thought it was a UFO maybe you know, 3067 02:25:22.319 --> 02:25:24.959 in the sky or something. I would you be taken off, 3068 02:25:25.000 --> 02:25:27.239 But dude, yeah, I don't want to get to the 3069 02:25:27.280 --> 02:25:29.719 point where I'm like, oh, that was the last time 3070 02:25:29.760 --> 02:25:32.360 I ever ran, you know, and just never ran again. 3071 02:25:33.040 --> 02:25:34.319 So yeah, I don't know. 3072 02:25:34.879 --> 02:25:37.799 You never remember. You never know that it's your last time, 3073 02:25:38.040 --> 02:25:42.600 you know, right, Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I'll I'll 3074 02:25:42.680 --> 02:25:44.120 keep you all up to date on that whole thing. 3075 02:25:44.159 --> 02:25:46.920 I'm real big on trying to I'm trying to get 3076 02:25:46.959 --> 02:25:49.959 as healthy as I possibly can. That's where like I'm 3077 02:25:50.159 --> 02:25:53.440 I'm so far, like, yeah, what a slice of pizza 3078 02:25:53.520 --> 02:25:54.040 sound awesome? 3079 02:25:54.200 --> 02:25:54.360 Fuck? 3080 02:25:54.440 --> 02:25:57.040 Yeah, I would, you know, like I still would just 3081 02:25:57.159 --> 02:25:59.440 the thought of it, you know, it sounds really good. 3082 02:25:59.600 --> 02:26:02.639 But I put myself into the mental state, especially now 3083 02:26:02.680 --> 02:26:05.040 that I've been on Keto for a little while. It's like, 3084 02:26:06.559 --> 02:26:09.959 I know, I put myself in the mind of whenever 3085 02:26:10.079 --> 02:26:12.159 I think about food that's not good for me, I 3086 02:26:12.280 --> 02:26:14.959 put myself in the place of I already ate it 3087 02:26:15.120 --> 02:26:17.399 and I feel like shit, and now I don't want 3088 02:26:17.479 --> 02:26:18.959 now it makes me not want it now. 3089 02:26:18.920 --> 02:26:21.520 I don't need to eat it again. Right, Yeah, it's 3090 02:26:21.520 --> 02:26:22.159 a good way to do it. 3091 02:26:24.000 --> 02:26:26.479 Brit said, I feel so retarded when I run these days. 3092 02:26:26.639 --> 02:26:30.000 I've been thinking about taking up running just to like help, 3093 02:26:30.440 --> 02:26:33.680 you know, get in better shape too. But yeah, yeah, 3094 02:26:33.680 --> 02:26:34.239 I'm sure. 3095 02:26:34.120 --> 02:26:36.399 I mean even even walking, dude, I feel like I've 3096 02:26:36.440 --> 02:26:39.000 heard it's really really good. My mom back in the day, 3097 02:26:39.040 --> 02:26:41.600 I think she lost like fifty pounds or something. And 3098 02:26:41.680 --> 02:26:43.319 all she would do is every night she would go 3099 02:26:43.399 --> 02:26:47.040 for a like an hour walk. You know, dude, I 3100 02:26:47.120 --> 02:26:48.879 remember your mom just moving around. 3101 02:26:49.799 --> 02:26:52.000 Your mom lost a lot of weight by planking. 3102 02:26:53.200 --> 02:26:55.840 Yeah, she was doing that like every day. I think, 3103 02:26:56.159 --> 02:26:58.280 super good. And then of course and with her with 3104 02:26:58.399 --> 02:27:00.440 her job. You know, she has a physical job. She's 3105 02:27:00.520 --> 02:27:03.319 moving around and before she was a cashier, so she 3106 02:27:03.520 --> 02:27:05.200 was kind of like stagging it, kind of just standing 3107 02:27:05.280 --> 02:27:07.920 there all day. So yeah, she lost a lot of week. 3108 02:27:08.159 --> 02:27:12.040 Oh yeah, Ashton said, Bro, yesterday I ate six tacos 3109 02:27:12.120 --> 02:27:16.760 during the Cult Live. You probably regretted that today. I 3110 02:27:16.760 --> 02:27:17.639 would imagine, oh. 3111 02:27:17.639 --> 02:27:20.639 Yeah, or even an hour later. You know, who knows, 3112 02:27:21.600 --> 02:27:23.959 depending on where you got the tacos. I guess you know, 3113 02:27:24.680 --> 02:27:25.600 yeah for sure. 3114 02:27:25.920 --> 02:27:28.040 All right, Well, before we talk about food anymore and 3115 02:27:28.079 --> 02:27:30.680 make me want to break this keto, then when she's 3116 02:27:30.760 --> 02:27:31.440 gonna get off of. 3117 02:27:31.479 --> 02:27:33.680 Here, stay strong, dude. 3118 02:27:34.200 --> 02:27:36.680 All right, guys, we love you. Thank you so much 3119 02:27:36.719 --> 02:27:38.120 for hanging out with us tonight. It was a lot 3120 02:27:38.159 --> 02:27:41.920 of fun. Lord Byron is always a banger and uh yeah, 3121 02:27:42.120 --> 02:27:44.719 good times. So we'll see you on the flip side. 3122 02:28:27.680 --> 02:28:40.840 Keeper, keep