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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast.

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We are back with our besties jen.

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Speaker 2: It's Scott Jennings. Everybody, Scott Jennings, whose.

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Speaker 1: Book Revolution of Common Sense is out next week on

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November eighteenth, which is coincidentally my twenty fifth wedding anniversary.

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Thank you for planning it that way.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Scott is the host of the Scott Jennings radio show,

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and of course our audience is most likely most familiar

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with his epic smackdowns that happen all across CNN all

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their shows, but mostly on the Abby Phillips Show. So

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happy to have you back with us, and we want

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to hear all about your book tour. How's it been going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, travels.

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Speaker 3: Always great to see you too, and I'm going to

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give you a report. I've been flying all over the country.

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I've been to California, Chicago, North Carolina, you name it, Kentucky.

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Everywhere I go, somebody at every single event walks up

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to me and says, the chicks, the chicks you want

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to I want to send it to the chicks. And

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so you are probably getting photos from around the country

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of meeting with random strangers who just want to send

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you all pictures of me. And so everywhere I go

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someone talks to me about the Chicks. So that's number

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time number. It's going great. The book comes out Tuesday,

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and you can go on Amazon and buy it right now.

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Uh and if you look on my social media, there's

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actually also a way, I think you can buy an

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autograph copy of it if you want one, and we

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have that set up as well. I've signed a ton already.

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But it's going great, and it come and it's my

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first book. I'm a little nervous about it, but people

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seem to be into it so far, so I'm really

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grateful for everybody who's bought it and looking forward to

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it hitting the hitting the shelves on Tuesday. I cannot

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I can't wait airports and I keep seeing the bookstores

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and I'm like, you know, pretty soon, I'm going to

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walk into one of these bookstores and my book is

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going to be sitting on and I'm just going to

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stand there and sort of yell at people until they.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to read it. I just cannot wait.

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Our book actually has the phrase common sense in it,

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and I feel like common sense is kind it's like disappearing.

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It's endangered Scott, it's like Well.

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Speaker 3: The reason I called it a revolution of common sense

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is because the President said this phrase in his inaugural address,

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and when I heard it, I thought that would be

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a great title for a book. I mean that is

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effectively the political branding he's given the conservative movement. We're

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having a revolution of common sense. And of course I

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harken back at the beginning of the book to Thomas Paine,

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who wrote the pamphlet Common Sense, and I think, you

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know that connective tissue to our founding, and the connective

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tissue to the idea that you know, we don't have

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to accept things as they are. We can get back

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to common sense if you feel like that. The other party,

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which I do, has moved us towards uncommon nonsense on

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a lot of topics. And so if you look at

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the chapters of the book, I picked out things that

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I thought, Okay, Trump took office and was facing uncommon nonsense.

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What did he do to restore common sense on this

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particular area. So you'll see that sprinkled throughout the book.

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I love it.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Has the shutdown impacted your tour with all the flights

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and the delays. I mean, what do you make of

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all this? The Dems caving so to speak.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just gonna admit this. No, absolutely not. I

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went from Washington to San Francisco, to Chicago, to Greensboro,

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North Carolina, to Louisville to New York. I have been

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to DC and San Antonio. I've been all over. I

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have tiptoed through the tulips here and not harmed a

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pedal on any one of them. I don't know how

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I did it. I barely stood in a line. I

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haven't ahead of flight delay. And so wow, she has

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been thank the president for ordering the ESAA moving in

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the right direction.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. I took one trip last weekend just to

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see mock and I got screwed. So that's remarkable. Like

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you've been touched by God. It's the hand of God, Scott.

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Speaker 3: Very fortunate. But I will tell you, every time I

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go through one of these airports and I these TSA people,

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you know, they're showing up for work, they're not getting paid.

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I think about I mean, they've been going a long

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time here without getting.

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Speaker 2: A peach, and it's at and it was all for politics.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what did we learnt? The Democrats did this

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whole thing for the election. They then didn't really know

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how to get out of it, so they just caved.

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I mean they they got nothing. I felt like Judge

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Smells in Caddyshack, You'll get nothing like it. That's what happened.

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I reward bad behavior by giving them anything. And it

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was purely political. They didn't care who they hurt. They

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hurt these federal employees, all these SNAP beneficiaries. Republicans were

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repeatedly voting to fund SNAP at the Biden budget levels.

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Democrats repeatedly voted to defund SNAP. Right. Pretty simply, you

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can't really refute the congressional record.

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Speaker 1: On this, But do you think that they won the battle? Like,

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do you think think? Who do you think politically won

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this battle? Because I know Democrats are caving, but I

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don't know how good Republicans are coming out just to

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the average person who isn't as engaged as the three

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of us might be.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody ever wins a shut down. Truthfully,

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I think what did we learn? You know, instead of

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who won? What did we learn? We did learn that

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Obamacare is a totally failed and collapse system. I mean,

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the Democrats succeeded in reminding everyone that the Affordable Care

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Act was not affordable. You cannot get care if you

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have one of the plans. I mean, it was an act,

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so it has one of the three things that's still

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going for. But other than that, it's a totally collapse system.

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We learned that they're willing to hurt people for politics,

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and we learned that there is a raging civil war

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going on inside their party between you know, the establishment

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Chuck Schumer people and all these upstarts, radical progressive upstarts

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around the country. You know. So who won? I mean,

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I don't know. I would say Republicans have some things here,

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some opportunit unities. We could put our own imprimature on

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the healthcare debate if we felt like it. Yeah, And

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we could exploit Democratic divisions if we felt like it,

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because I think the people who are ascended in the

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Democratic Party right now are going to be broadly unacceptable

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to most Americans.

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Speaker 2: I think it also showed us that welfare is out

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of control, kind of like when we were going when

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we were going through COVID, and it showed us how

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crappy our education system is. It showed us, I mean,

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forty two million people on Snap are you freaking kidding me?

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So there's that, and then you know, it also showed

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us that our messaging still sucks. Our party is so terrible.

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That's one thing that almost twenty years Mak and I

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have been talking about that where we're always on the defense,

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never on the offense, and so when it comes to

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economics and affordability and things like that, I just think

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that our party could get I don't like to beat

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up on our party, I really don't, but I just

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think that when it comes to messaging, we tend to

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be a little more on the defense than ever on

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the offense. That we've got to learn to play offense

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better because things are getting better for people. I mean,

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especially when it comes to for ow and ks and

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things like that. I just think that we need to

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learn to pat ourselves on the back and get that

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message out early and often and let people know, listen,

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it's things are okay. I mean, look at what he's

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done just in the short amount of time. It's pretty remarkable,

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especially when you look back. I'm the last president who

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didn't eed he wasn't even there. He was like weekend

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at Berne's. It's such a stark contrast.

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Speaker 3: You know, on this offensive idea. I will say at

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the end of the debate, at the end of the period, here,

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you know, Trump going on offense against insurance companies. I

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actually thought that was It might have been a little

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late coming, but I thought that was the correct tactic.

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I mean, effectively, what the Democrats want to do is

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send billions of dollars to insurance companies. Now, look, I

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own a small company in Kentucky. I get a letter

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every November. It says, well, your premiums are going we

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pay for our employees insurance. Your premiums are going up

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by another ten percent. You know what. It doesn't say

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your benefits are getting improved by ten percent or they're

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going to be ten percent better healthcare outcomes. So we

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keep sending money to insurance companies. No one feels like

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they're insurance is getting any better, no one feels like

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they're getting any healthier. But we keep sending these people

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more money. And I thought Trump was correct about that.

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sort of the next iteration of this debate. But I

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think people would love it if you would just kind

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of meet them where they are, And I think where

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they are is, Look, I have insurance, but it doesn't

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feel like I have insurance, so I doesn't even feel

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like I can use it. And ye right, I mean

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it's like I have this thing. It's like if I

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had a helicopter on my front yard. Well, I have

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a helicopter, but I can't fly it, so what good

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does it do me? You know, It's like, this is

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what an insurance plan is like. Right now, this expensive

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thing that I pay for is sitting here and I

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can't really do anything with it. If we meet people

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on that and somehow allow them to bypass this system

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that you know, feels like not insurance at all, that

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would be a good outcome here. I don't know how

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likely it is we can do that, but being on

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offense means solving problems. Yes, people do believe this is

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a problem. Could we solve it? It's worth of shot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always thought that it should work. Like Granted,

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I don't know enough about insurance to get into like

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the weeds about how this would work exactly, but I've

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always not understood why it doesn't work like car insurance,

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where you pay for your maintenance, right, like your body maintenance.

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you change the oil and the gas and all that.

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everybody expects that they should have a twenty dollars copay

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at the doctor's office instead of just handling the routine

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issues and using insurance for the big stuff, which is

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what you do with car accidents. I don't know, that's

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just an idea that I've always not really understood, and

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it's too employer based, and all of that stuff is

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a problem.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a mess.

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Speaker 3: It's a big mess, this idea of transparency in it.

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You know, you get you go to the doctor and

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you get the bill, or you get this thing from

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your insurance company and you look at it a if

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you and even decipher it. That's one thing. You start

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to look at it, well, it costs this, but then

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they're only going to pay that, And I mean, it

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looks like some huge money laundering operation that we put

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in ord documents and sent to you I mean, it's

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this whole thing was designed not to help patients. It

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was designed to help insurance companies. It was designed to

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help everybody except the person who just wants to go

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to the doctor and feel better. They're the last person

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anybody thinks about, which is the opposite of the way

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it should be. I think if I were messaging this

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for us, and I think that's how I would talk

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about it. We're just gonna what's best for the patient,

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and then we'll work down from there. Right now for

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the insurance companies, and we work down from there. We

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got to turn that upside down. Trump is moving in

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that direction. But how you operationalize that in terms of policy.

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It's obviously little message.

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Speaker 2: And you're so right meeting people at that kitchen table.

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That's what we got to start doing.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, well this and look I also think this,

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and just on messaging, it's not going to work to

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tell PEP people you're not feeling what you think you're feeling.

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Side and ran into this. You can talk people out

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of their lived experience. Okay, if my experiences the grocery

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store is still more expensive than I want it to be,

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or if my experience is I don't feel like I

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can get ahead. I'm just barely being able to keep

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my nose above water. You can't talk people out of

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how they feel about their own life condition. What you

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can talk to them about is what have I done

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to make it better? What am I going to do

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to make it better? And you can also listen. I

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mean listening in politics is a powerful thing, and I

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do think presidencies run into this sometimes, and parties run

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into this. I don't want to listen. I want to

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tell I want to tell you how you should be

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feeling instead of listening to how you are feeling. And

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a little listening, you know, goes a long way in politics.

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Is I think people understand you can't fix all problems overnight.

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I agree with you. Trump has done so much over

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ten months totally, and I actually think he has a

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lot of latitude because people know how deep the hole

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was that Biden dug. They're giving him space to get

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us out of it. But you still got to listen

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to them. You still have to listen to how they're

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feeling about it along the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: And then, you know, speaking of the messaging, there was

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so much after the election in New York City and Virginia,

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New Jersey so much, you know, hand ringing about that.

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But I so we actually played a clip of you

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kind of reality checking the Tuesday election results that you know,

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these were, as you said, these were like Democrats strongholds,

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but like, don't you think that Republicans are kind of

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on the struggle bus right now with that good economy

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not being felt by a lot of people, particularly in

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the low and middle class. So, you know, I worry

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when Trump says things like the economy is the best

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it's ever been, because to your point, if you don't

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feel that, you don't want to hear that from your presidence,

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And actually it's going.

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Speaker 2: To be better, especially young people, we're hearing it because

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that's let's let's just face it, that's who elected Mom Donnie.

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Is these these young people who are like, I can't

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afford a house. I can't I want the free hand out.

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I'm a freaking commy. I want this, you know, I

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want daddy governments take care of me until from cradle

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to grave. This is what we're seeing now. So those

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are the people that we have to reach, right, I think.

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Speaker 3: I'll take the last one first. I agree with you

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on young people. And if you look at the educational

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splits of New York City, it was young people, but

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people with college degrees or advanced everybody with less than

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a college degree. Cuomo actually won them. It wasn't really

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a real class, the blue collar people of New York

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that elected Mom Donny. He sort of positions himself as

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a hood ornament for these people. No, he is a

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function of the college educated or more than college educated

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class in New York City and people who recently moved there,

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who are dissatisfied with having moved to a city that's

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pretty expensive, and instead of having you know, some job

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of their dreams, they're working gig jobs and they don't

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like it, and so they want somebody to pay for

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everything and take care of everything. The working class. That

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thing sees through the socialism piece. But these kids, they

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don't really you know, they're into it right now, and

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I don't know what you would ever tell them, necessarily,

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other than to show them this is not going to

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work out the way they want. I mean, Mom, Donnie's

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not going to be able to do any of the

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things he said he wanted to do to the extent

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that he tries. I think his rhetoric on it is

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going to be so divisive that it's really not going

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to work for him.

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Speaker 2: And it's so two point zero though. It's like he

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because we went through this with the whole tea party.

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It's one of the reasons we started Chicks on the

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Right back in two thousand and nine is because Obama

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was this big, shiny figure. Everybody's like, oh god, he's

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so great and charism I mean love him, and I

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remember we were like, this is so bizarre. He came

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out of nowhere, out of thin air. He was a

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lot like Mandannie when it came to just charisma and

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his personality everything. And I remember we made bumper stickers.

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Socialism sucks because all these young people, we were young

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back then. It's like all these young people were like,

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you know what I mean, this was like almost twenty

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years ago. All these young people were like, it's so great.

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He's going to give us all this stuff and we

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don't have to work for it. It's like he's going

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to take care of us cradle to grave, the same

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kind of thing. And we were like, this is insane.

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This is America. So it's the same premise, but now

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he's got the Islamic thing attached to it, so he's

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like this islamo kami, which is it's kind. It's just

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terrifying to me. All of it together is terrifying because

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it's not changing, it's getting worse. And I feel like

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sometimes I just feel very disheartened because I feel like

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we've been working all this time to try to change

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minds and hearts of people, especially young people, and they're like, nah,

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we'll take the free crap.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you, I'll give you my Scott's glass half full.

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Speaker 2: Assessment of this, Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I think well, first of all, in all three elections

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that Donald Trump has been on the ballot and half

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the counties in America, he has improved a Republican vote

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share each time. I think there's simple evidence that this

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youngest generation is actually more conservative than you might believe.

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I do think people are waking up to the fact

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that they've been sold the bill of goods, and I

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don't think they like necessarily being bombarded with constant messages

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that they their country sucks and you should hate it.

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I think people want to love their country, and I

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think people I think I think right now among young people.

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There is a little bit of a rejection of this

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idea of you know, the liberal worldview, which is a

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you know, nuclear families are oppressive. You know, there are

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people who are keeping you down, and you need to

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rip this system out, root and branch. We need to

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turn upside down. I don't I sense among young people

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right now, and I you know, they're having an idea like,

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wait a minute, maybe families are good, Maybe working hard

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for a living is good. Maybe something is good. And

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so I'm actually thinking they went too far. I'll be honest.

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I think maybe the pendulum they went too far. And

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then on the cultural stuff, they're tired of being divided

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up into subgroup after subgroup after subgroup. Why can't we

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all just be Americans who are in this together and

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we understand the virtues of family and hard work and

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merit and talent. I think there's something going on. We'll

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see how it manifests itself. It'll take some time.

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Speaker 2: I think we see that.

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Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, it's different than say, you know, Heartland America,

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where right, we're still very real.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing, I guess, because like Mak and I

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see that, like our kids are, they're pretty I mean

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they're conservative, they're normal. They're normal kids who want normal things,

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and they loved their country and they love their families,

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and so I do. And my daughter's friends are the

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same way. So I look around and in my life

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experience it is that way, Scott. But then I then

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I watch what happened in New York and I'm like,

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what what's going on?

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Speaker 3: So it is like I said on election night, it

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was a blue election in a blue city. Yeah, and

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you know, Mom donn Interestingly, Mom Donnie only won about

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two thirds of Democrats. He didn't even win his whole party.

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I mean a lot of people, a lot of Democrats

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went for Cuomo. So I think even in his election

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he got about half the vote, there was still a

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lot of his own people who were.

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Speaker 2: Like about this, Yeah, this guy's kind of wad.

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Speaker 3: It was all economics. I think some of it has

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to do with his anti Jewish rhetoric. Yeah, it was

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anti police rhetoric. I mean that there's a lot of

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people in New York. I mean there's more Jews in

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New York than any city outside of Tel Aviv. And

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I think also people who live in New York inherently

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know well it could be better if the police were

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on duty than stage, which is what believes, And it

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would be better if they were in the prisons as

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opposed to not in the prisons, which is what mom

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donnas and so also in a different direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what else makes sense is a

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good pair of work boots for your man. So I

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told you weeks ago that like, we're going to have

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lots of ideas for you for man gifts for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: And look at that, Look at that? Aren't they gorgeous? Seriously?

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Like they have two differents, well they have a couple

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different kinds, but that listen, men, especially if you're watching this,

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these are amazing, are both of our men, and that

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both of the men in my life have these, both

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of them because they are connoisseurs of work boots. They

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both love these, and I'm gonna tell you why they

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love them, because well, one of them is a more

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My husband is more of a pasture guy, like he's

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a ranch guy and he's outside a lot. My boy

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is a construction manager. So they're both outside. Work boots

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are a must. They wear work boots all the time.

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They both have like a million pairs of work boots.

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They both have a pair of these, and they look good, right.

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They're fantastic looking. They're so durable and like thick and

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hearty and like they're great, right. But the thing that

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they always tell me is that they're super cushy on

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the inside. You do not have to break them in

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because you know how like a lot of work boots men,

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you're feeling me on this, you have to break them in,

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you have sore feet, months long process of breaking them in.

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You don't have to do that with brunt boots. Immediately

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when you put them on, they like hug your feet.

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They're really cushy and they're really comfortable, which is such

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a bonus, especially if you're walking around all danum. So

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that's what they totally love about these boots. They're really fantastic,

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really really cool. The founder Eric Gerard, I think that's

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how you pronounce his last name. After hearing from tradesmen

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like who were tired of big brands putting like style

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over substance, he made a boot that was just so

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comfortable and that makes a huge difference people who are

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in them all day. So he also named them after

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hard working trade, real tradesmen, so all the names are

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after real people who do real work, which I love that.

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I totally love that. So you guys should treat yourself

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or the man in your life to some brunt boots.

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Speaker 3: Do it, brunt do?

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Speaker 2: I love it?

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Speaker 1: We've seen, as Daisy said, you know, we've seen the

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sort of resurgence among young people of believing in family,

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believing in God, believing in church, all of those good

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good things actually as we saw from Charlie's memorial for example.

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But then there's this new faction of like the Gropers

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and the Fuintes followers and people on our own side

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of the aisle who are acting like in ways that

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we cannot fathom that we used to admire some of

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these people who are saying things that we and platforming

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people that were just like, what is even happening?

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Speaker 2: What do you make of all that?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I don't consider fwinte Is to

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be a conservative. I don't consider him to be a Republican.

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I think he is a self interested grifter who I

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don't know why anyone would give him any credence or credibility.

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I don't recognize his viewpoints as being conservative. He doesn't

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speak for me. I don't think he speaks for the

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broader conservative movement. But I do think he intends to

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infiltrate the movement and divide it and destroyed it. I

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think that's what they want to do. I think people

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who are trying to elevate him or platform him, or

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you know, know, also this viewpoint of like, oh, well,

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you know, free speech, we have to accept everybody and

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we or absorb every view. No, we don't exactly. Speech

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is about government coercion, like free speech is, you know,

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is the government allowing me or stopping me from making

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a speech? You know, point desk is allowed to do

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whatever he wants to do. But we as conservatives have

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agency to decide. Do we want to be associated with

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that kind of speech? Yeah, of course we don't. Of

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course we don't. We do not want to be associated

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with people who believe Hitler was good and you know,

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idolize Stalin and so on and so forth. That's not conservative. Okay,

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it's not conservative. So on the grounds of free speech,

476
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you do not have to feel obligated as a conservative

477
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to absorb the viewpoint of every wacko that you see

478
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,079
on your computer screen. I mean, he's on a computer screen.

479
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If he were standing on a street corner wearing a

480
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,759
sandwich board, which is where he should be, he wouldn't

481
00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:55,960
give any attention. There's really no difference between that and

482
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what he does on a computer screen. For some reason,

483
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when people do things on a computer screen, it's seems

484
00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:04,799
to give them enhance credibility. True, he'd be outside with

485
00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:07,000
a sandwich board and you think there's another crazy person,

486
00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:07,759
and that's how we run.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's oh no. I was just going to say,

488
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,440
like it used to be. We're old enough to remember

489
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when we would shun the David Dukes of the world

490
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,359
and I and it's now it's just like, no, no,

491
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,359
you can't do that now, because you're right. It goes

492
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back to the whole it's free speech. It's like aff.

493
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Speaker 3: At the Republican Jewish Coalition meeting in Vegas, a couple

494
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of weeks ago, and I said, you know, our Republican

495
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,000
leaders should not fear losing these people, And I exactly

496
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,839
worry about that, Like people are too afraid to excommunicate folks.

497
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I don't want to lose a supporter. I don't want

498
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to alienate people. Did you ever stop and think about

499
00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:47,960
the people you're alienating by keeping them?

500
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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right?

501
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Speaker 3: Who do you want to be cozy with? And I

502
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,200
think we want to vast majority of Americans would not

503
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,680
recognize those views as being legitimate political views in America,

504
00:23:59,759 --> 00:24:02,880
and they certainly wouldn't recognize them as being conservative views.

505
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:06,359
But if you hold on to them, a lot of

506
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,039
people who are in your movement are not gonna want

507
00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:11,160
to be there anymore. They're they're toxic, they're radioactive, and

508
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,920
so they're saying that courage to sayeah, and we have

509
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,559
to have courage to get rid of the views that

510
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,480
in no way, shape or form represent the modern conservative

511
00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:22,400
movement in my opinion.

512
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Speaker 1: So that's the question then, right, like, this is the

513
00:24:24,599 --> 00:24:27,319
dilemma I think that conservatives are facing right now. Is

514
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,960
there's the Matt Walsh's take, which is to ignore it completely,

515
00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:36,279
to like just not even discuss Fuentes to just pretend

516
00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:40,559
he doesn't exist. And then there's the others who want

517
00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:44,079
to condemn him, who want to call out and say

518
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,880
this is wrong and this does not belong in our party.

519
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,000
So what is more likely? Which strategy is more likely

520
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,279
to kill the beast? Do you know what I mean?

521
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Speaker 3: Like?

522
00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:55,599
Speaker 1: Is it to ignore or is it to condemn?

523
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Speaker 3: Great question. You know, for most of my career on

524
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:00,559
this stuff, I have ignored it. I have been of

525
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,240
the Matt view, which is like this, this person's not

526
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,839
relevant to me. I don't recognize them as a legitimate person.

527
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,119
I don't care what they think. And you know, I

528
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,119
think there's always going to be crazy people who say

529
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,839
crazy things. I don't have to elevate them to the

530
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,160
level of legitimate. Now, this thing has burst onto the

531
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,079
scene in the way of Charlie Kirk's death and in

532
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the wake of some other debates going on around what's

533
00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:25,799
going on in the Middle East and so on, So

534
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,440
I guess we're having to deal with it now. But

535
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,440
I do think it would be a mistake to dwell

536
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,920
on this and to focus on it every day. That's

537
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,000
what they want. You know, what's the old saying about

538
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:40,640
never wrestle with a pig that they like, and that's

539
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,079
what they want. The only the legitimization of them comes

540
00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:49,400
from people accepting them as equals on the debating front.

541
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,200
Exactly that person is an equal. I don't accept that

542
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,720
person as a legitimate sparring partner, and I certainly don't

543
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,799
accept that person as somebody who I would ever outsource

544
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,880
the writing of the Conservative movement or the republic platform too.

545
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,759
I wouldn't want them in the room when we were

546
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:05,279
writing down what do we believe in. That person's not

547
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:06,400
going to be in that room.

548
00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:08,319
Speaker 2: That I'm that's such a great point.

549
00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:11,759
Speaker 3: Yes, And so to deal with them every day, to

550
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,680
grapple with it every day, does seem to me to

551
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,200
be they love it, attention.

552
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:18,319
Speaker 1: They love it.

553
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: But isn't it kind of working?

554
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like it's working though because

555
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of the stature I guess of the voices who are

556
00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:31,079
elevating him, Like when he gets a softball interview from

557
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,960
Tucker Carlson, who has millions and millions of viewers. I

558
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,759
don't know how we can't push back and can't call

559
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it out.

560
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Speaker 3: I agree, and I think a lot of people have

561
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,000
one thing. I detect that's going on is since Donald

562
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:51,839
Trump decided to engage in Middle East diplomacy, since he

563
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,200
decided to take out Iran's nuclear weapons, which was a

564
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:58,559
righteous decision, I have noticed that a bunch of people

565
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:02,680
in that movement, in that in that space have really

566
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:06,079
worked really hard to try to destabilize the Trump movement

567
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:09,799
and the Trump presidency. And I think the elevation of

568
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:12,359
whintess in that interview that you referenced that this is

569
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,119
nothing more than an attempt to destroy the conservative movement

570
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,759
that Donald Trump now sits at the top of. They

571
00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:23,799
are made Trump for defying them. Yeah, Trump to do that.

572
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:26,559
He predicted World War three, he said thousands of people

573
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:31,079
would die in America. Of course didn't happen, but they're trying.

574
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,359
I think they're trying to punish Trump. I think Marjorie

575
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,000
Taylor Green right now, I agree, the easiest way to

576
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:41,359
get on TV as a Republican in America attack your

577
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,640
own people. She's on the view, she's running around on

578
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,160
all these outlets. It is all because they're mad at Trump.

579
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:51,519
And now they've decided, well we're mad at him, so

580
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:53,720
we're going to hurt him. We have to recognize that

581
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:56,519
these are political actors. They didn't get their way. So

582
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,279
their reaction to that wasn't to say, Okay, he's our leader.

583
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:01,279
We're going to follow. Their reaction to that is to

584
00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:04,799
try to destroy the guy. This is crazy. This is

585
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,839
our president. We nominated this man, he's our leader. We're

586
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:12,000
fighting the Democrats, and they're busy fighting him for what

587
00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:14,920
they are internally destructive forces.

588
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a very like I know this

589
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,759
is way early to ask this question, but I'm gonna

590
00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:23,079
ask it anyway, because we already know our bench is awesome.

591
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:24,880
We have so many people on our side of the

592
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,480
aisle that are just amazing people to choose. It's going

593
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:29,160
to be so hard to choose from all these people

594
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,960
in the next election, the presidential election. But I'm just

595
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:35,920
curious who you think are the front runners on the

596
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,920
left because they're all losers and it's hard for me

597
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:42,000
to I am just being honest, it's hard, Like, I

598
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:44,680
don't who are they? Who are these people? How are

599
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,319
they going to figure out which loser to run?

600
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: But look, I think they are in a similar place

601
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,599
to where the Republicans were after twenty twelve. They feel decimated,

602
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:59,960
they feel defeated. They feel like their establishment has led

603
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,519
them down. They feel like nobody's fighting hard enough. You

604
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,039
saw that in this shutdown fight. You remember, Republicans had

605
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,880
a lot of these same feelings. He was just feeling

606
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,160
like totally empty. And so what happened. Somebody from the

607
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,000
outside who wasn't part of the regular order showed up

608
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:21,680
and showed them a fighting spirit that they didn't sense,

609
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:23,720
and the people who were running and kind of took

610
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,240
control of it in a really short order. I don't

611
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:29,039
know what they're going to do, but I have a

612
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:31,960
feeling there's a really good chance it's not going to

613
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,160
be somebody from their regular order who you think.

614
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a wildcard, like a total wildcard.

615
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:41,559
Speaker 3: The conditions exist for them to have the same thing

616
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,720
happen that happened to the Republicans when you hit rock bottom,

617
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:47,920
which I mean, look after twenty twelve, I felt like

618
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,000
we were at rock bottom. We lost to Obama. We

619
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,359
thought we were going to win, that Ronnie was a

620
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,920
moral man who would have been a great president, and

621
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,720
the way they treated him, called him a murderer and

622
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:01,480
so terrible. Yeah, for the election, I thought, how did

623
00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:05,200
we let them get away with smearing Mitt Romney like this,

624
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:07,440
and so anyway, I just think they're in the same spot.

625
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,200
They can't imagine how Donald Trump came back. Yeah, they're

626
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,920
so empty, they're so defeated. And so when you feel

627
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,400
like your own people will let you down, you start

628
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,279
looking for other people.

629
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Speaker 2: So they're gonna pull like a Kardashian or like somebody

630
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,160
out of like a celebrity sphere, and they're gonna pull

631
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,319
that person in, like a Mark Cuban or somebody.

632
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I'm just there's not a

633
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:33,640
There is not a singular politician on the left who

634
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,640
looks like they're in control of that party, right I

635
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,799
will say, I wouldn't discount the possibility of someone from

636
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,880
the Bernie AOC wing of the party. They almost got

637
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,039
it before, right, Yeah, so you know they're they're closer

638
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,839
than you think. But I also just happen to believe

639
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,079
that party right now is a drift. There's infighting, there's

640
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:58,160
no real leader, there's no real direction. The energy in

641
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,920
their party is on the socialist Momdani side of the point.

642
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:05,720
That's where their energy is. They have someone who's really

643
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:08,799
able to steer the ship right now, and a national figure.

644
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:11,119
Speaker 2: They could always ask Hillary again.

645
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: You know she'd do it. You know she'd do it. Yeah,

646
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:22,079
she would be a meet planning again. I know right,

647
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:22,559
She's like.

648
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: I'll do it, I'll do it.

649
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: One of the things that we've talked about recently as

650
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,720
a potential wedge issue in our own party coming up

651
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:35,200
in twenty twenty eight is this whole support for Israel issue,

652
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:37,839
because that does seem to be there's a split now

653
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,640
in the right about that issue. How much we should

654
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,680
be supporting, how much we should be funding, et cetera,

655
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,559
et cetera. So I do you think that jd Vance,

656
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:49,799
assuming that he is sort of the natural ascendant to

657
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:53,440
the to the nomination, do you think that he will

658
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,079
withstand the pressure or like, how do you think he's

659
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going to navigate the Israel issue?

660
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Speaker 3: You know, I do think part of this will be

661
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:08,480
determined by how the president's efforts turn out. He's trying

662
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,440
to expand the Abraham Accords. We've got a you know,

663
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:15,119
very very soft piece deal going there right now that

664
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,440
saw the hostages come back, which was great. I don't

665
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,519
know whether you could ever get Hamas to deradicalize lay

666
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:23,799
down there are I just I don't personally believe that.

667
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:26,440
My main interest in it was I wanted the hostages

668
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,039
back and we got to Thank God.

669
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Speaker 2: Yes.

670
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Speaker 3: So, you know, some of this may be determined by circumstances.

671
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What are the circumstances on the ground in the next

672
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three years. If Donald Trump gets Saudi Arabia and all

673
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,359
these other Arab states into the Abraham Accords, I mean,

674
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you're dealing with a much different world order over there

675
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,640
than what he inherited, and that may change, you know,

676
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,319
a JD. Vance's view on what we have to do.

677
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:50,880
I mean, if the president gets all these countries into it,

678
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,480
I mean we're in it. We're in it together. At

679
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,240
that point, he can't really walk away from that. You know,

680
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,279
Donald Trump built it. You don't want to walk away

681
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:00,119
from from what would be one of his biggest lasting achievements,

682
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,359
which is stability in the Middle East. I do think JD.

683
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,079
Vance is skeptical of war. I think he's skeptical of

684
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military engagement, and I think he's skeptical of plunging the

685
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,680
United States into conflicts. But in the case of the

686
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Middle East, I think what Trump has said is we

687
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,519
only have to engage when absolutely necessary and the rest

688
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:19,559
of it really does need to be spent on diplomacy,

689
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and I do think Vance believes in diplomacy, but I

690
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think the circumstances of the Middle East in three years

691
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,400
will probably determine how he shapes his policy. But I

692
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,640
think if Trump gets what he wants, this expansion of

693
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,720
the Abraham Accords and sort of this economic ties between everyone,

694
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:40,680
security arrangements between everyone, you just wouldn't want to walk

695
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,000
away from that. I mean that what an achievement that

696
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:46,519
would be, you know Trump, and it would have been.

697
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:47,960
It will be a feather in the cap of the

698
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,799
Republican Party to have been the party that got you

699
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,039
closer to peace in the Middle East, which every president

700
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:55,680
wants and nobody can ever seem to achieve.

701
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I wanted to congratulate you really really quickly on

702
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,079
being called out by Laurence O'Donnell. Do you want to

703
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:04,799
talk about that cat fight for a.

704
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:09,519
Speaker 3: Second, you can discuss it. Well, so, I don't know

705
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:13,039
what happened, but the MSNBC people are so mad at me.

706
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:17,679
It started with Oberman Me on MSNBC who called for

707
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,559
me to be murdered. That happened a while back, and

708
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:27,559
then he's stable r Donald went crazy. Uh, And his

709
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,559
problem is is that his show was on at ten

710
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,840
o'clock and Abby beats his pants off every night. That's

711
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,280
the problem. I mean, his main problem is he's three

712
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,559
year old man who's getting his ass kicked by Abbie

713
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:41,159
Phillip every night and he tries to I don't have

714
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:42,800
time to fix your show, Laurence O'Donnell.

715
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:44,159
Speaker 2: Bless his heart.

716
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,039
Speaker 3: As much as I'd love to help you fix, I

717
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:49,800
don't have time. I got plenty of That's his main

718
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,199
problem is the show that nobody cares about from a

719
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,079
guy who you know was long past his prime.

720
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: I actually forgot he was still on the I forgot

721
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:01,599
he was still on the network. Isn't that terrible? Like

722
00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:03,280
when you guys started talking about it, I was like, wait,

723
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,320
he's still a thing.

724
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's sorry.

725
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: He said something defamatory, which is that CNN pays me

726
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,880
to lie. I mean that was his direct statement.

727
00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: That's not Okaye, you should sue in Scott.

728
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd be thinking about it too. They should

729
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,159
they pay me to do to give my authentic opinion

730
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,880
based on news of the day. That's why I do.

731
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,239
I don't lie. I never lie.

732
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: I mean, to be honest, you're the only reason that

733
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:40,719
we watch CNN, and we probably speak for a lot

734
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,400
of people being honest.

735
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: I appreciate you both, and I think there are a

736
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,199
lot of people out there who are conservatives who are

737
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,920
consuming CNN content in some way that maybe they weren't before.

738
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,559
And that's a good thing.

739
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: Exactly based on lies, It's true, it's not based on.

740
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: What they're What the left is really angry about is

741
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,480
that they think that the media and all of its

742
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:06,079
property should be a wholly owned subsidiary left. They cannot.

743
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,559
What he's really upset about is that there is a

744
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:11,639
TV station in the world that would give a conservative

745
00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:15,159
a chance to give his opinion. That he is incensed

746
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,440
and in his view, all conservatives should be driven from

747
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,519
the public square. That is the most authoritarian worldview you

748
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:22,920
can have.

749
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: And he's probably one of those guys that he'll scream

750
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,639
at the rooftop said, he's like all for America democracy,

751
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:30,800
No Kings.

752
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,599
Speaker 3: They do not want conservatives to be given a chance

753
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:40,360
to make their arguments or to give any opinion whatsoever.

754
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:43,840
And they don't want they don't allow it on MSNBC.

755
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,639
They don't want CNN to be allowed to do it.

756
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,880
They think Fox News should be taken off the air.

757
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,280
I mean, they truly deeply want the media to be

758
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:57,760
only one viewpoint, and anybody who runs a foul of that,

759
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,440
well you can see how they treat them. And so

760
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:04,000
it's a very totalitarian It's very authoritarian. Yeah, I heard

761
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,760
that in poor Lawrence's monologue the other day. But the

762
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,800
main issue is he's tired of getting his ass kicked

763
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,079
by Abbie and he finally got to him. He's under

764
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,679
a lot of financial pressure, a failing network, and.

765
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: That's a problem.

766
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,159
Speaker 1: What about the rumors that Barry Weiss is recruiting you

767
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,639
to come to CBS.

768
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: I know, I read all these things. I'm a huge

769
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:33,280
Berry fan. She may save us all. She's great and

770
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:37,320
I wish only good things for her. I have been

771
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,320
a huge fan of hers for a long time. And

772
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,920
if she, you know, every wants to have a conversation

773
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,519
about any issue, of course I'm going to take the

774
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:47,199
call because I think she's one of the best things

775
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,840
going in the media today. I mean, she's thinking about

776
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,400
the news correctly, which is how do I deliver the

777
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,519
news and not the narrative?

778
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, people want I want.

779
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: To give you the news. I don't want to give

780
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,480
you the narrative. And that's I think what that's her

781
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:05,320
mission is to correct this, not just at CBS but

782
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,119
at large. I think the media would be in far

783
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,000
better shape with the American people if we stuck to

784
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:12,760
the news and not the narratives. And oftentimes that's what

785
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,880
we get. And so anyway, I don't really have anything

786
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,880
to say about it other than I love Barry, I

787
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,440
wish her well. She's she has a huge job, but

788
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,840
that she does repress. I read it every morning, and

789
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,920
it is that that kind of content is sorely needed America,

790
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,679
but you just don't get it from corporate media if

791
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:34,280
there's a market demand for it. Obviously, I mean she may.

792
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean she could do for CBS what Elon did

793
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,239
for Twitter.

794
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, very synonymous.

795
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 3: We are long past the point where there needs to

796
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:48,440
be serious corrections based on market forces. It is often

797
00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:50,800
like impervious to the market. You know, people are screaming,

798
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,360
I don't like this, I don't trust this, I want

799
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,559
something different, and you sort of withstand it. But the

800
00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:58,840
market is speaking right now. Look at the polling, Look

801
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,480
at the Gallop polling on trust and institutions people the media,

802
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,920
and I firmly want a trusted, free press. I think

803
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,280
it's necessary for American democracy, but we don't have one

804
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,199
right now if you just go by the polling, and

805
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,400
so how do you give people that? I think some

806
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,400
of it has to do with authenticity. Barry is an

807
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,159
extremely authentic person. She's a critical thinker, but there's a

808
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:20,480
lot of authenticity in what she does and the content

809
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:24,320
that she creates. People are desperate for authenticity right now. Yes,

810
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,559
you really think not that you're just capable of reading

811
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:29,039
a script that someone handed you.

812
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: And true journalism which is just so wonderful. So yeah,

813
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,440
I know if she watches our show, so maybe she'll

814
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,039
see this very excited for her to do that we

815
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:40,360
can facilitate something.

816
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

817
00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: The ten o'clock Show on CNN is one of the

818
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,079
more authentic attempts right now in mainstream media. It's largely

819
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:51,719
unscripted and it is and you know, when you have

820
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,280
like a legitimate cast, you know, debating the issues of

821
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,199
the day, you can really really have some interesting conversations.

822
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: Which is great. Do you remember what George castanza It

823
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,519
is very skinny Georgios Fantom from Seinfeld, he had that

824
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:07,559
fat wallet. This is a very unique, slim modern wallet.

825
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,280
It's a great Christmas present you use all things like that.

826
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,840
It's ten percent lighter, the two nothing, it is fair

827
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:17,199
and it also has a tracker on it. It has

828
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,480
the Ridge Tracker card so you always know exactly where

829
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,920
it is, which would be my thing if I were

830
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,760
a dude. I need to get it for myself. Can

831
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,559
a woman carry that? Because I totally you know, I'm

832
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:28,360
constantly losing my keys and everything else. It's so great.

833
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:32,400
It's made with aluminum, titanium, carbon fiber. It's really cool.

834
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:35,800
It's very very cool. It's a great, great gift for

835
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,599
like the man in your life, your sun whatever. So

836
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:41,000
for a limited time, they're having their huge Black Friday sale.

837
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:42,639
Everything is gonna be Black Friday, you guys. In the

838
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:45,480
next couple weeks head to Ridge dot com slash Chicks

839
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,639
get up to forty seven percent off your order. This

840
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,559
is like one of the biggest discounts they've given all year.

841
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,639
So that's Ridge dot Com slash Chicks for up to

842
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,880
forty seven percent off. And they have other products too.

843
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,199
Speaker 1: There's like a cool little keychain thing and like it's

844
00:40:58,599 --> 00:40:59,239
it's nice stuff.

845
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: It's great stuff for all sorts of cool stuff.

846
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: You've been on the show with Possum Lady, with that

847
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,000
Jennifer in her presence of possiblad.

848
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: What does she look like in person? Does she hiss

849
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:11,960
off camera?

850
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: What is that like?

851
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: Are you okay? Are you all right? He's too good.

852
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: He's not going to say.

853
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: You're not going to say anything.

854
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: I will not some.

855
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: We will. We'll say it. We'll say it for you.

856
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,199
We're going to say all the things, Scott, We'll say

857
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,880
it for you. She's reprehensible.

858
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: We were talking about the issue earlier. Look what they

859
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,800
have going on on the left. They have people like that.

860
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,039
They have a whole industry of people who are nasty,

861
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,639
violent people who are driving their party in a direction

862
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,159
that ultimately would make it unelectable nationally. So, you know,

863
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,199
even though we're having family conversations on the right about

864
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,639
these issues, don't don't forget on the left they are dealing,

865
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,360
in my opinion, with worse issues, and a lot of

866
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,000
it has to do with violence. I mean, you listen

867
00:41:58,079 --> 00:41:59,599
to her, you listen to something. Look what they just

868
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:01,760
elected Virginia. I mean, they look the other way and

869
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,559
elected a guy in Virginia attorney general who wants to

870
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:07,239
murder Republicans and see their kids dying their mother's arms.

871
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, crazy, it is crazy, But those people get.

872
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,199
But those people get such a following and they get

873
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,320
and I think that's what's so it hurts my heart,

874
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:20,000
hurts my heart for my kids, and I just, you know,

875
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:24,280
I just hope it's not emblematic of everybody. I want.

876
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:26,760
I want to I want to. I want to think

877
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,000
that people that don't hit the like button on that

878
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:31,440
stuff are just not hitting the like button because they're

879
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,280
too busy living their best lives doing other wonderful things.

880
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,119
Speaker 3: That's there's a lot of truth in that. I think. Yeah,

881
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:42,440
I think average everyday people are basically common sense, basically

882
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,960
center right right, and they don't have a lot of

883
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,400
time for the absolute extremes people out there, who are

884
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,679
you know, farming this outrage, yes, personal profit and amusement.

885
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:55,199
Most people don't have time for that. Most people are

886
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,559
just living life, trying to make life better for their kids,

887
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:00,440
trying to make it to soccer practice on Saturday, you know,

888
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:03,400
trying to get ready for Thanksgiving. They're you know, they're

889
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,480
not so much engaged in outrage, they're engaged in family

890
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:07,760
in the future.

891
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: Are you going to be home for Thanksgiving? Please tell

892
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,039
me yes, Yes, I am going.

893
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: To be a couple of days that week, but I

894
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,320
will go home for Thanksgiving. So my book comes out

895
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,079
on the eighteen Thanksgiving is of course. Yeah. I will

896
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,559
have traveled a tremendous amount that first few days to

897
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:25,880
do book appearances. I am grinding it out. I've had

898
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,639
so many public appearances. I have bet remember December and

899
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,440
January book because people have been so generous. They're calling me,

900
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,920
they're inviting me. You know, we want to buy some

901
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,880
books and have you signed them. And I'm doing as

902
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,320
many of them as I can. Might not be on

903
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,199
TV as much because I'm doing a lot of traveling,

904
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,800
but I'm so grateful. I've been invited so many places

905
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,800
to talk about the book and meet the people.

906
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:49,119
Speaker 1: And well, you're having an impact and people love you

907
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:52,719
and it's all deserved. One quick question, because I found

908
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,239
out you and I have something in common which I

909
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,519
was not expecting, and that is that you go by

910
00:43:56,559 --> 00:43:59,559
your middle name and I do too, and I wanted

911
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:00,679
to get your story about that.

912
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: Why do you do that?

913
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: Well, my father is Jeff Jennings, and my name is

914
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,199
Jeffery Scott Jennings. So I was named after my father,

915
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,079
but growing up, my dad was Jeff, and so they

916
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:15,039
decided to call me Scott at an early age. And

917
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,400
that's just the way it's always been. And so my

918
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:20,960
dad's Jeff and I'm Scott, but we're Jeffries and interesting

919
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:23,519
we both spell it unusually. It's j E F F

920
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:28,079
E R y Oh. Yeah, that is unusual, a little unusual.

921
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:29,880
I don't know why they I don't know if they

922
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,360
just accidentally juxtaposed the letters or if it was on purpose.

923
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,519
But yes, that's the story. So when I signed the book,

924
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:41,480
actually I signed Jay Scott Jennings and the Jeff for.

925
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: Okay, well fantastic. I didn't realize that I cannot wait

926
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,199
to read the book. I can't wait.

927
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: I know same. It's a revolution of common sense. Again.

928
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,320
It's out on November eighteenth. It's available on Amazon right

929
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,960
now if you want to pre order. Where else can

930
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,760
people know more about you? Find out more about you,

931
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,519
listen to you, watch you, et cetera.

932
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: Okay, So on social media, I spend a lot of

933
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:07,079
time on the X platform at Scott jennings Ky. That's

934
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,599
also my handle for Facebook and YouTube. I have a

935
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:12,599
daily radio show on Salem that's two to three each day,

936
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,840
and I stream it on my platform, so if you're

937
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,039
not near a Salem station somewhere, you can listen to it.

938
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:20,719
It's also in a podcast form, so if you go

939
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,559
to Apple or Spotify and type in Scott Jennings Show,

940
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:25,960
you can get it. Give me thirty four minutes and

941
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,119
I'll give you the world, I promise. And then on CNN,

942
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:32,639
I'm around most days a lot of nights. At ten o'clock.

943
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,280
On Wednesdays, I typically do the nine o'clock. I will

944
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,199
be on the Sunday Show you know, fairly frequently as well.

945
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,280
But I try to appear across the network numerous times

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a week. And I'm making a lot of public appearances

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right now, and I'm going to try to keep people

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apprized of that on my social media about where I'm

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going to talk about the book and other things. So

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I'm not hard to find, but the best way to

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reach me is usually on x at Scott jennings Ky.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, and hopefully more often here. You know,

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You're always welcome.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I I just know that everywhere I go over

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the next few weeks the trend will continue. Someone's gonna

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walk up with me and say, please take a picture

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with me so I can send it to the chicks.

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You are going to be. Your inbox will be flooded

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with pictures of me on the road. You're our favorite.

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Speaker 2: You're our favorite. Scott Jennings, everybody there, Scott, thank.

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Speaker 3: You, good to see you all.

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Speaker 2: You too.