Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast.
We are back with our besties jen.
Speaker 2: It's Scott Jennings. Everybody, Scott Jennings, whose.
Speaker 1: Book Revolution of Common Sense is out next week on
November eighteenth, which is coincidentally my twenty fifth wedding anniversary.
Thank you for planning it that way.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Scott is the host of the Scott Jennings radio show,
and of course our audience is most likely most familiar
with his epic smackdowns that happen all across CNN all
their shows, but mostly on the Abby Phillips Show. So
happy to have you back with us, and we want
to hear all about your book tour. How's it been going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, travels.
Speaker 3: Always great to see you too, and I'm going to
give you a report. I've been flying all over the country.
I've been to California, Chicago, North Carolina, you name it, Kentucky.
Everywhere I go, somebody at every single event walks up
to me and says, the chicks, the chicks you want
to I want to send it to the chicks. And
so you are probably getting photos from around the country
of meeting with random strangers who just want to send
you all pictures of me. And so everywhere I go
someone talks to me about the Chicks. So that's number
time number. It's going great. The book comes out Tuesday,
and you can go on Amazon and buy it right now.
Uh and if you look on my social media, there's
actually also a way, I think you can buy an
autograph copy of it if you want one, and we
have that set up as well. I've signed a ton already.
But it's going great, and it come and it's my
first book. I'm a little nervous about it, but people
seem to be into it so far, so I'm really
grateful for everybody who's bought it and looking forward to
it hitting the hitting the shelves on Tuesday. I cannot
I can't wait airports and I keep seeing the bookstores
and I'm like, you know, pretty soon, I'm going to
walk into one of these bookstores and my book is
going to be sitting on and I'm just going to
stand there and sort of yell at people until they.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to read it. I just cannot wait.
Our book actually has the phrase common sense in it,
and I feel like common sense is kind it's like disappearing.
It's endangered Scott, it's like Well.
Speaker 3: The reason I called it a revolution of common sense
is because the President said this phrase in his inaugural address,
and when I heard it, I thought that would be
a great title for a book. I mean that is
effectively the political branding he's given the conservative movement. We're
having a revolution of common sense. And of course I
harken back at the beginning of the book to Thomas Paine,
who wrote the pamphlet Common Sense, and I think, you
know that connective tissue to our founding, and the connective
tissue to the idea that you know, we don't have
to accept things as they are. We can get back
to common sense if you feel like that. The other party,
which I do, has moved us towards uncommon nonsense on
a lot of topics. And so if you look at
the chapters of the book, I picked out things that
I thought, Okay, Trump took office and was facing uncommon nonsense.
What did he do to restore common sense on this
particular area. So you'll see that sprinkled throughout the book.
I love it.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Has the shutdown impacted your tour with all the flights
and the delays. I mean, what do you make of
all this? The Dems caving so to speak.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just gonna admit this. No, absolutely not. I
went from Washington to San Francisco, to Chicago, to Greensboro,
North Carolina, to Louisville to New York. I have been
to DC and San Antonio. I've been all over. I
have tiptoed through the tulips here and not harmed a
pedal on any one of them. I don't know how
I did it. I barely stood in a line. I
haven't ahead of flight delay. And so wow, she has
been thank the president for ordering the ESAA moving in
the right direction.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I took one trip last weekend just to
see mock and I got screwed. So that's remarkable. Like
you've been touched by God. It's the hand of God, Scott.
Speaker 3: Very fortunate. But I will tell you, every time I
go through one of these airports and I these TSA people,
you know, they're showing up for work, they're not getting paid.
I think about I mean, they've been going a long
time here without getting.
Speaker 2: A peach, and it's at and it was all for politics.
Speaker 3: I mean, what did we learnt? The Democrats did this
whole thing for the election. They then didn't really know
how to get out of it, so they just caved.
I mean they they got nothing. I felt like Judge
Smells in Caddyshack, You'll get nothing like it. That's what happened.
I reward bad behavior by giving them anything. And it
was purely political. They didn't care who they hurt. They
hurt these federal employees, all these SNAP beneficiaries. Republicans were
repeatedly voting to fund SNAP at the Biden budget levels.
Democrats repeatedly voted to defund SNAP. Right. Pretty simply, you
can't really refute the congressional record.
Speaker 1: On this, But do you think that they won the battle? Like,
do you think think? Who do you think politically won
this battle? Because I know Democrats are caving, but I
don't know how good Republicans are coming out just to
the average person who isn't as engaged as the three
of us might be.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody ever wins a shut down. Truthfully,
I think what did we learn? You know, instead of
who won? What did we learn? We did learn that
Obamacare is a totally failed and collapse system. I mean,
the Democrats succeeded in reminding everyone that the Affordable Care
Act was not affordable. You cannot get care if you
have one of the plans. I mean, it was an act,
so it has one of the three things that's still
going for. But other than that, it's a totally collapse system.
We learned that they're willing to hurt people for politics,
and we learned that there is a raging civil war
going on inside their party between you know, the establishment
Chuck Schumer people and all these upstarts, radical progressive upstarts
around the country. You know. So who won? I mean,
I don't know. I would say Republicans have some things here,
some opportunit unities. We could put our own imprimature on
the healthcare debate if we felt like it. Yeah, And
we could exploit Democratic divisions if we felt like it,
because I think the people who are ascended in the
Democratic Party right now are going to be broadly unacceptable
to most Americans.
Speaker 2: I think it also showed us that welfare is out
of control, kind of like when we were going when
we were going through COVID, and it showed us how
crappy our education system is. It showed us, I mean,
forty two million people on Snap are you freaking kidding me?
So there's that, and then you know, it also showed
us that our messaging still sucks. Our party is so terrible.
That's one thing that almost twenty years Mak and I
have been talking about that where we're always on the defense,
never on the offense, and so when it comes to
economics and affordability and things like that, I just think
that our party could get I don't like to beat
up on our party, I really don't, but I just
think that when it comes to messaging, we tend to
be a little more on the defense than ever on
the offense. That we've got to learn to play offense
better because things are getting better for people. I mean,
especially when it comes to for ow and ks and
things like that. I just think that we need to
learn to pat ourselves on the back and get that
message out early and often and let people know, listen,
it's things are okay. I mean, look at what he's
done just in the short amount of time. It's pretty remarkable,
especially when you look back. I'm the last president who
didn't eed he wasn't even there. He was like weekend
at Berne's. It's such a stark contrast.
Speaker 3: You know, on this offensive idea. I will say at
the end of the debate, at the end of the period, here,
you know, Trump going on offense against insurance companies. I
actually thought that was It might have been a little
late coming, but I thought that was the correct tactic.
I mean, effectively, what the Democrats want to do is
send billions of dollars to insurance companies. Now, look, I
own a small company in Kentucky. I get a letter
every November. It says, well, your premiums are going we
pay for our employees insurance. Your premiums are going up
by another ten percent. You know what. It doesn't say
your benefits are getting improved by ten percent or they're
going to be ten percent better healthcare outcomes. So we
keep sending money to insurance companies. No one feels like
they're insurance is getting any better, no one feels like
they're getting any healthier. But we keep sending these people
more money. And I thought Trump was correct about that.
Now what we do about it as a party. That's
sort of the next iteration of this debate. But I
think people would love it if you would just kind
of meet them where they are, And I think where
they are is, Look, I have insurance, but it doesn't
feel like I have insurance, so I doesn't even feel
like I can use it. And ye right, I mean
it's like I have this thing. It's like if I
had a helicopter on my front yard. Well, I have
a helicopter, but I can't fly it, so what good
does it do me? You know, It's like, this is
what an insurance plan is like. Right now, this expensive
thing that I pay for is sitting here and I
can't really do anything with it. If we meet people
on that and somehow allow them to bypass this system
that you know, feels like not insurance at all, that
would be a good outcome here. I don't know how
likely it is we can do that, but being on
offense means solving problems. Yes, people do believe this is
a problem. Could we solve it? It's worth of shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always thought that it should work. Like Granted,
I don't know enough about insurance to get into like
the weeds about how this would work exactly, but I've
always not understood why it doesn't work like car insurance,
where you pay for your maintenance, right, like your body maintenance.
You pay for your checkups like you do with your car,
you change the oil and the gas and all that.
But when you need it for something catastrophic, it's there.
And I feel like it's become so convoluted with you know,
everybody expects that they should have a twenty dollars copay
at the doctor's office instead of just handling the routine
issues and using insurance for the big stuff, which is
what you do with car accidents. I don't know, that's
just an idea that I've always not really understood, and
it's too employer based, and all of that stuff is
a problem.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a mess.
Speaker 3: It's a big mess, this idea of transparency in it.
You know, you get you go to the doctor and
you get the bill, or you get this thing from
your insurance company and you look at it a if
you and even decipher it. That's one thing. You start
to look at it, well, it costs this, but then
they're only going to pay that, And I mean, it
looks like some huge money laundering operation that we put
in ord documents and sent to you I mean, it's
this whole thing was designed not to help patients. It
was designed to help insurance companies. It was designed to
help everybody except the person who just wants to go
to the doctor and feel better. They're the last person
anybody thinks about, which is the opposite of the way
it should be. I think if I were messaging this
for us, and I think that's how I would talk
about it. We're just gonna what's best for the patient,
and then we'll work down from there. Right now for
the insurance companies, and we work down from there. We
got to turn that upside down. Trump is moving in
that direction. But how you operationalize that in terms of policy.
It's obviously little message.
Speaker 2: And you're so right meeting people at that kitchen table.
That's what we got to start doing.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, well this and look I also think this,
and just on messaging, it's not going to work to
tell PEP people you're not feeling what you think you're feeling.
Side and ran into this. You can talk people out
of their lived experience. Okay, if my experiences the grocery
store is still more expensive than I want it to be,
or if my experience is I don't feel like I
can get ahead. I'm just barely being able to keep
my nose above water. You can't talk people out of
how they feel about their own life condition. What you
can talk to them about is what have I done
to make it better? What am I going to do
to make it better? And you can also listen. I
mean listening in politics is a powerful thing, and I
do think presidencies run into this sometimes, and parties run
into this. I don't want to listen. I want to
tell I want to tell you how you should be
feeling instead of listening to how you are feeling. And
a little listening, you know, goes a long way in politics.
Is I think people understand you can't fix all problems overnight.
I agree with you. Trump has done so much over
ten months totally, and I actually think he has a
lot of latitude because people know how deep the hole
was that Biden dug. They're giving him space to get
us out of it. But you still got to listen
to them. You still have to listen to how they're
feeling about it along the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 1: And then, you know, speaking of the messaging, there was
so much after the election in New York City and Virginia,
New Jersey so much, you know, hand ringing about that.
But I so we actually played a clip of you
kind of reality checking the Tuesday election results that you know,
these were, as you said, these were like Democrats strongholds,
but like, don't you think that Republicans are kind of
on the struggle bus right now with that good economy
not being felt by a lot of people, particularly in
the low and middle class. So, you know, I worry
when Trump says things like the economy is the best
it's ever been, because to your point, if you don't
feel that, you don't want to hear that from your presidence,
And actually it's going.
Speaker 2: To be better, especially young people, we're hearing it because
that's let's let's just face it, that's who elected Mom Donnie.
Is these these young people who are like, I can't
afford a house. I can't I want the free hand out.
I'm a freaking commy. I want this, you know, I
want daddy governments take care of me until from cradle
to grave. This is what we're seeing now. So those
are the people that we have to reach, right, I think.
Speaker 3: I'll take the last one first. I agree with you
on young people. And if you look at the educational
splits of New York City, it was young people, but
people with college degrees or advanced everybody with less than
a college degree. Cuomo actually won them. It wasn't really
a real class, the blue collar people of New York
that elected Mom Donny. He sort of positions himself as
a hood ornament for these people. No, he is a
function of the college educated or more than college educated
class in New York City and people who recently moved there,
who are dissatisfied with having moved to a city that's
pretty expensive, and instead of having you know, some job
of their dreams, they're working gig jobs and they don't
like it, and so they want somebody to pay for
everything and take care of everything. The working class. That
thing sees through the socialism piece. But these kids, they
don't really you know, they're into it right now, and
I don't know what you would ever tell them, necessarily,
other than to show them this is not going to
work out the way they want. I mean, Mom, Donnie's
not going to be able to do any of the
things he said he wanted to do to the extent
that he tries. I think his rhetoric on it is
going to be so divisive that it's really not going
to work for him.
Speaker 2: And it's so two point zero though. It's like he
because we went through this with the whole tea party.
It's one of the reasons we started Chicks on the
Right back in two thousand and nine is because Obama
was this big, shiny figure. Everybody's like, oh god, he's
so great and charism I mean love him, and I
remember we were like, this is so bizarre. He came
out of nowhere, out of thin air. He was a
lot like Mandannie when it came to just charisma and
his personality everything. And I remember we made bumper stickers.
Socialism sucks because all these young people, we were young
back then. It's like all these young people were like,
you know what I mean, this was like almost twenty
years ago. All these young people were like, it's so great.
He's going to give us all this stuff and we
don't have to work for it. It's like he's going
to take care of us cradle to grave, the same
kind of thing. And we were like, this is insane.
This is America. So it's the same premise, but now
he's got the Islamic thing attached to it, so he's
like this islamo kami, which is it's kind. It's just
terrifying to me. All of it together is terrifying because
it's not changing, it's getting worse. And I feel like
sometimes I just feel very disheartened because I feel like
we've been working all this time to try to change
minds and hearts of people, especially young people, and they're like, nah,
we'll take the free crap.
Speaker 3: I'll give you, I'll give you my Scott's glass half full.
Speaker 2: Assessment of this, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3: I think well, first of all, in all three elections
that Donald Trump has been on the ballot and half
the counties in America, he has improved a Republican vote
share each time. I think there's simple evidence that this
youngest generation is actually more conservative than you might believe.
I do think people are waking up to the fact
that they've been sold the bill of goods, and I
don't think they like necessarily being bombarded with constant messages
that they their country sucks and you should hate it.
I think people want to love their country, and I
think people I think I think right now among young people.
There is a little bit of a rejection of this
idea of you know, the liberal worldview, which is a
you know, nuclear families are oppressive. You know, there are
people who are keeping you down, and you need to
rip this system out, root and branch. We need to
turn upside down. I don't I sense among young people
right now, and I you know, they're having an idea like,
wait a minute, maybe families are good, Maybe working hard
for a living is good. Maybe something is good. And
so I'm actually thinking they went too far. I'll be honest.
I think maybe the pendulum they went too far. And
then on the cultural stuff, they're tired of being divided
up into subgroup after subgroup after subgroup. Why can't we
all just be Americans who are in this together and
we understand the virtues of family and hard work and
merit and talent. I think there's something going on. We'll
see how it manifests itself. It'll take some time.
Speaker 2: I think we see that.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, it's different than say, you know, Heartland America,
where right, we're still very real.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, I guess, because like Mak and I
see that, like our kids are, they're pretty I mean
they're conservative, they're normal. They're normal kids who want normal things,
and they loved their country and they love their families,
and so I do. And my daughter's friends are the
same way. So I look around and in my life
experience it is that way, Scott. But then I then
I watch what happened in New York and I'm like,
what what's going on?
Speaker 3: So it is like I said on election night, it
was a blue election in a blue city. Yeah, and
you know, Mom donn Interestingly, Mom Donnie only won about
two thirds of Democrats. He didn't even win his whole party.
I mean a lot of people, a lot of Democrats
went for Cuomo. So I think even in his election
he got about half the vote, there was still a
lot of his own people who were.
Speaker 2: Like about this, Yeah, this guy's kind of wad.
Speaker 3: It was all economics. I think some of it has
to do with his anti Jewish rhetoric. Yeah, it was
anti police rhetoric. I mean that there's a lot of
people in New York. I mean there's more Jews in
New York than any city outside of Tel Aviv. And
I think also people who live in New York inherently
know well it could be better if the police were
on duty than stage, which is what believes, And it
would be better if they were in the prisons as
opposed to not in the prisons, which is what mom
donnas and so also in a different direction.
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Speaker 1: We've seen, as Daisy said, you know, we've seen the
sort of resurgence among young people of believing in family,
believing in God, believing in church, all of those good
good things actually as we saw from Charlie's memorial for example.
But then there's this new faction of like the Gropers
and the Fuintes followers and people on our own side
of the aisle who are acting like in ways that
we cannot fathom that we used to admire some of
these people who are saying things that we and platforming
people that were just like, what is even happening?
Speaker 2: What do you make of all that?
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I don't consider fwinte Is to
be a conservative. I don't consider him to be a Republican.
I think he is a self interested grifter who I
don't know why anyone would give him any credence or credibility.
I don't recognize his viewpoints as being conservative. He doesn't
speak for me. I don't think he speaks for the
broader conservative movement. But I do think he intends to
infiltrate the movement and divide it and destroyed it. I
think that's what they want to do. I think people
who are trying to elevate him or platform him, or
you know, know, also this viewpoint of like, oh, well,
you know, free speech, we have to accept everybody and
we or absorb every view. No, we don't exactly. Speech
is about government coercion, like free speech is, you know,
is the government allowing me or stopping me from making
a speech? You know, point desk is allowed to do
whatever he wants to do. But we as conservatives have
agency to decide. Do we want to be associated with
that kind of speech? Yeah, of course we don't. Of
course we don't. We do not want to be associated
with people who believe Hitler was good and you know,
idolize Stalin and so on and so forth. That's not conservative. Okay,
it's not conservative. So on the grounds of free speech,
you do not have to feel obligated as a conservative
to absorb the viewpoint of every wacko that you see
on your computer screen. I mean, he's on a computer screen.
If he were standing on a street corner wearing a
sandwich board, which is where he should be, he wouldn't
give any attention. There's really no difference between that and
what he does on a computer screen. For some reason,
when people do things on a computer screen, it's seems
to give them enhance credibility. True, he'd be outside with
a sandwich board and you think there's another crazy person,
and that's how we run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's oh no. I was just going to say,
like it used to be. We're old enough to remember
when we would shun the David Dukes of the world
and I and it's now it's just like, no, no,
you can't do that now, because you're right. It goes
back to the whole it's free speech. It's like aff.
Speaker 3: At the Republican Jewish Coalition meeting in Vegas, a couple
of weeks ago, and I said, you know, our Republican
leaders should not fear losing these people, And I exactly
worry about that, Like people are too afraid to excommunicate folks.
I don't want to lose a supporter. I don't want
to alienate people. Did you ever stop and think about
the people you're alienating by keeping them?
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right?
Speaker 3: Who do you want to be cozy with? And I
think we want to vast majority of Americans would not
recognize those views as being legitimate political views in America,
and they certainly wouldn't recognize them as being conservative views.
But if you hold on to them, a lot of
people who are in your movement are not gonna want
to be there anymore. They're they're toxic, they're radioactive, and
so they're saying that courage to sayeah, and we have
to have courage to get rid of the views that
in no way, shape or form represent the modern conservative
movement in my opinion.
Speaker 1: So that's the question then, right, like, this is the
dilemma I think that conservatives are facing right now. Is
there's the Matt Walsh's take, which is to ignore it completely,
to like just not even discuss Fuentes to just pretend
he doesn't exist. And then there's the others who want
to condemn him, who want to call out and say
this is wrong and this does not belong in our party.
So what is more likely? Which strategy is more likely
to kill the beast? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Is it to ignore or is it to condemn?
Speaker 3: Great question. You know, for most of my career on
this stuff, I have ignored it. I have been of
the Matt view, which is like this, this person's not
relevant to me. I don't recognize them as a legitimate person.
I don't care what they think. And you know, I
think there's always going to be crazy people who say
crazy things. I don't have to elevate them to the
level of legitimate. Now, this thing has burst onto the
scene in the way of Charlie Kirk's death and in
the wake of some other debates going on around what's
going on in the Middle East and so on, So
I guess we're having to deal with it now. But
I do think it would be a mistake to dwell
on this and to focus on it every day. That's
what they want. You know, what's the old saying about
never wrestle with a pig that they like, and that's
what they want. The only the legitimization of them comes
from people accepting them as equals on the debating front.
Exactly that person is an equal. I don't accept that
person as a legitimate sparring partner, and I certainly don't
accept that person as somebody who I would ever outsource
the writing of the Conservative movement or the republic platform too.
I wouldn't want them in the room when we were
writing down what do we believe in. That person's not
going to be in that room.
Speaker 2: That I'm that's such a great point.
Speaker 3: Yes, And so to deal with them every day, to
grapple with it every day, does seem to me to
be they love it, attention.
Speaker 1: They love it.
Speaker 2: But isn't it kind of working?
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like it's working though because
of the stature I guess of the voices who are
elevating him, Like when he gets a softball interview from
Tucker Carlson, who has millions and millions of viewers. I
don't know how we can't push back and can't call
it out.
Speaker 3: I agree, and I think a lot of people have
one thing. I detect that's going on is since Donald
Trump decided to engage in Middle East diplomacy, since he
decided to take out Iran's nuclear weapons, which was a
righteous decision, I have noticed that a bunch of people
in that movement, in that in that space have really
worked really hard to try to destabilize the Trump movement
and the Trump presidency. And I think the elevation of
whintess in that interview that you referenced that this is
nothing more than an attempt to destroy the conservative movement
that Donald Trump now sits at the top of. They
are made Trump for defying them. Yeah, Trump to do that.
He predicted World War three, he said thousands of people
would die in America. Of course didn't happen, but they're trying.
I think they're trying to punish Trump. I think Marjorie
Taylor Green right now, I agree, the easiest way to
get on TV as a Republican in America attack your
own people. She's on the view, she's running around on
all these outlets. It is all because they're mad at Trump.
And now they've decided, well we're mad at him, so
we're going to hurt him. We have to recognize that
these are political actors. They didn't get their way. So
their reaction to that wasn't to say, Okay, he's our leader.
We're going to follow. Their reaction to that is to
try to destroy the guy. This is crazy. This is
our president. We nominated this man, he's our leader. We're
fighting the Democrats, and they're busy fighting him for what
they are internally destructive forces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a very like I know this
is way early to ask this question, but I'm gonna
ask it anyway, because we already know our bench is awesome.
We have so many people on our side of the
aisle that are just amazing people to choose. It's going
to be so hard to choose from all these people
in the next election, the presidential election. But I'm just
curious who you think are the front runners on the
left because they're all losers and it's hard for me
to I am just being honest, it's hard, Like, I
don't who are they? Who are these people? How are
they going to figure out which loser to run?
Speaker 3: But look, I think they are in a similar place
to where the Republicans were after twenty twelve. They feel decimated,
they feel defeated. They feel like their establishment has led
them down. They feel like nobody's fighting hard enough. You
saw that in this shutdown fight. You remember, Republicans had
a lot of these same feelings. He was just feeling
like totally empty. And so what happened. Somebody from the
outside who wasn't part of the regular order showed up
and showed them a fighting spirit that they didn't sense,
and the people who were running and kind of took
control of it in a really short order. I don't
know what they're going to do, but I have a
feeling there's a really good chance it's not going to
be somebody from their regular order who you think.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a wildcard, like a total wildcard.
Speaker 3: The conditions exist for them to have the same thing
happen that happened to the Republicans when you hit rock bottom,
which I mean, look after twenty twelve, I felt like
we were at rock bottom. We lost to Obama. We
thought we were going to win, that Ronnie was a
moral man who would have been a great president, and
the way they treated him, called him a murderer and
so terrible. Yeah, for the election, I thought, how did
we let them get away with smearing Mitt Romney like this,
and so anyway, I just think they're in the same spot.
They can't imagine how Donald Trump came back. Yeah, they're
so empty, they're so defeated. And so when you feel
like your own people will let you down, you start
looking for other people.
Speaker 2: So they're gonna pull like a Kardashian or like somebody
out of like a celebrity sphere, and they're gonna pull
that person in, like a Mark Cuban or somebody.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I'm just there's not a
There is not a singular politician on the left who
looks like they're in control of that party, right I
will say, I wouldn't discount the possibility of someone from
the Bernie AOC wing of the party. They almost got
it before, right, Yeah, so you know they're they're closer
than you think. But I also just happen to believe
that party right now is a drift. There's infighting, there's
no real leader, there's no real direction. The energy in
their party is on the socialist Momdani side of the point.
That's where their energy is. They have someone who's really
able to steer the ship right now, and a national figure.
Speaker 2: They could always ask Hillary again.
Speaker 3: You know she'd do it. You know she'd do it. Yeah,
she would be a meet planning again. I know right,
She's like.
Speaker 2: I'll do it, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: One of the things that we've talked about recently as
a potential wedge issue in our own party coming up
in twenty twenty eight is this whole support for Israel issue,
because that does seem to be there's a split now
in the right about that issue. How much we should
be supporting, how much we should be funding, et cetera,
et cetera. So I do you think that jd Vance,
assuming that he is sort of the natural ascendant to
the to the nomination, do you think that he will
withstand the pressure or like, how do you think he's
going to navigate the Israel issue?
Speaker 3: You know, I do think part of this will be
determined by how the president's efforts turn out. He's trying
to expand the Abraham Accords. We've got a you know,
very very soft piece deal going there right now that
saw the hostages come back, which was great. I don't
know whether you could ever get Hamas to deradicalize lay
down there are I just I don't personally believe that.
My main interest in it was I wanted the hostages
back and we got to Thank God.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: So, you know, some of this may be determined by circumstances.
What are the circumstances on the ground in the next
three years. If Donald Trump gets Saudi Arabia and all
these other Arab states into the Abraham Accords, I mean,
you're dealing with a much different world order over there
than what he inherited, and that may change, you know,
a JD. Vance's view on what we have to do.
I mean, if the president gets all these countries into it,
I mean we're in it. We're in it together. At
that point, he can't really walk away from that. You know,
Donald Trump built it. You don't want to walk away
from from what would be one of his biggest lasting achievements,
which is stability in the Middle East. I do think JD.
Vance is skeptical of war. I think he's skeptical of
military engagement, and I think he's skeptical of plunging the
United States into conflicts. But in the case of the
Middle East, I think what Trump has said is we
only have to engage when absolutely necessary and the rest
of it really does need to be spent on diplomacy,
and I do think Vance believes in diplomacy, but I
think the circumstances of the Middle East in three years
will probably determine how he shapes his policy. But I
think if Trump gets what he wants, this expansion of
the Abraham Accords and sort of this economic ties between everyone,
security arrangements between everyone, you just wouldn't want to walk
away from that. I mean that what an achievement that
would be, you know Trump, and it would have been.
It will be a feather in the cap of the
Republican Party to have been the party that got you
closer to peace in the Middle East, which every president
wants and nobody can ever seem to achieve.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wanted to congratulate you really really quickly on
being called out by Laurence O'Donnell. Do you want to
talk about that cat fight for a.
Speaker 3: Second, you can discuss it. Well, so, I don't know
what happened, but the MSNBC people are so mad at me.
It started with Oberman Me on MSNBC who called for
me to be murdered. That happened a while back, and
then he's stable r Donald went crazy. Uh, And his
problem is is that his show was on at ten
o'clock and Abby beats his pants off every night. That's
the problem. I mean, his main problem is he's three
year old man who's getting his ass kicked by Abbie
Phillip every night and he tries to I don't have
time to fix your show, Laurence O'Donnell.
Speaker 2: Bless his heart.
Speaker 3: As much as I'd love to help you fix, I
don't have time. I got plenty of That's his main
problem is the show that nobody cares about from a
guy who you know was long past his prime.
Speaker 2: I actually forgot he was still on the I forgot
he was still on the network. Isn't that terrible? Like
when you guys started talking about it, I was like, wait,
he's still a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's sorry.
Speaker 3: He said something defamatory, which is that CNN pays me
to lie. I mean that was his direct statement.
Speaker 2: That's not Okaye, you should sue in Scott.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd be thinking about it too. They should
they pay me to do to give my authentic opinion
based on news of the day. That's why I do.
I don't lie. I never lie.
Speaker 2: I mean, to be honest, you're the only reason that
we watch CNN, and we probably speak for a lot
of people being honest.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you both, and I think there are a
lot of people out there who are conservatives who are
consuming CNN content in some way that maybe they weren't before.
And that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: Exactly based on lies, It's true, it's not based on.
Speaker 3: What they're What the left is really angry about is
that they think that the media and all of its
property should be a wholly owned subsidiary left. They cannot.
What he's really upset about is that there is a
TV station in the world that would give a conservative
a chance to give his opinion. That he is incensed
and in his view, all conservatives should be driven from
the public square. That is the most authoritarian worldview you
can have.
Speaker 2: And he's probably one of those guys that he'll scream
at the rooftop said, he's like all for America democracy,
No Kings.
Speaker 3: They do not want conservatives to be given a chance
to make their arguments or to give any opinion whatsoever.
And they don't want they don't allow it on MSNBC.
They don't want CNN to be allowed to do it.
They think Fox News should be taken off the air.
I mean, they truly deeply want the media to be
only one viewpoint, and anybody who runs a foul of that,
well you can see how they treat them. And so
it's a very totalitarian It's very authoritarian. Yeah, I heard
that in poor Lawrence's monologue the other day. But the
main issue is he's tired of getting his ass kicked
by Abbie and he finally got to him. He's under
a lot of financial pressure, a failing network, and.
Speaker 2: That's a problem.
Speaker 1: What about the rumors that Barry Weiss is recruiting you
to come to CBS.
Speaker 3: I know, I read all these things. I'm a huge
Berry fan. She may save us all. She's great and
I wish only good things for her. I have been
a huge fan of hers for a long time. And
if she, you know, every wants to have a conversation
about any issue, of course I'm going to take the
call because I think she's one of the best things
going in the media today. I mean, she's thinking about
the news correctly, which is how do I deliver the
news and not the narrative?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, people want I want.
Speaker 3: To give you the news. I don't want to give
you the narrative. And that's I think what that's her
mission is to correct this, not just at CBS but
at large. I think the media would be in far
better shape with the American people if we stuck to
the news and not the narratives. And oftentimes that's what
we get. And so anyway, I don't really have anything
to say about it other than I love Barry, I
wish her well. She's she has a huge job, but
that she does repress. I read it every morning, and
it is that that kind of content is sorely needed America,
but you just don't get it from corporate media if
there's a market demand for it. Obviously, I mean she may.
Speaker 1: I mean she could do for CBS what Elon did
for Twitter.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, very synonymous.
Speaker 3: We are long past the point where there needs to
be serious corrections based on market forces. It is often
like impervious to the market. You know, people are screaming,
I don't like this, I don't trust this, I want
something different, and you sort of withstand it. But the
market is speaking right now. Look at the polling, Look
at the Gallop polling on trust and institutions people the media,
and I firmly want a trusted, free press. I think
it's necessary for American democracy, but we don't have one
right now if you just go by the polling, and
so how do you give people that? I think some
of it has to do with authenticity. Barry is an
extremely authentic person. She's a critical thinker, but there's a
lot of authenticity in what she does and the content
that she creates. People are desperate for authenticity right now. Yes,
you really think not that you're just capable of reading
a script that someone handed you.
Speaker 2: And true journalism which is just so wonderful. So yeah,
I know if she watches our show, so maybe she'll
see this very excited for her to do that we
can facilitate something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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more authentic attempts right now in mainstream media. It's largely
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the day, you can really really have some interesting conversations.
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Speaker 1: You've been on the show with Possum Lady, with that
Jennifer in her presence of possiblad.
Speaker 2: What does she look like in person? Does she hiss
off camera?
Speaker 3: What is that like?
Speaker 2: Are you okay? Are you all right? He's too good.
Speaker 1: He's not going to say.
Speaker 2: You're not going to say anything.
Speaker 3: I will not some.
Speaker 2: We will. We'll say it. We'll say it for you.
We're going to say all the things, Scott, We'll say
it for you. She's reprehensible.
Speaker 3: We were talking about the issue earlier. Look what they
have going on on the left. They have people like that.
They have a whole industry of people who are nasty,
violent people who are driving their party in a direction
that ultimately would make it unelectable nationally. So, you know,
even though we're having family conversations on the right about
these issues, don't don't forget on the left they are dealing,
in my opinion, with worse issues, and a lot of
it has to do with violence. I mean, you listen
to her, you listen to something. Look what they just
elected Virginia. I mean, they look the other way and
elected a guy in Virginia attorney general who wants to
murder Republicans and see their kids dying their mother's arms.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, crazy, it is crazy, But those people get.
But those people get such a following and they get
and I think that's what's so it hurts my heart,
hurts my heart for my kids, and I just, you know,
I just hope it's not emblematic of everybody. I want.
I want to I want to. I want to think
that people that don't hit the like button on that
stuff are just not hitting the like button because they're
too busy living their best lives doing other wonderful things.
Speaker 3: That's there's a lot of truth in that. I think. Yeah,
I think average everyday people are basically common sense, basically
center right right, and they don't have a lot of
time for the absolute extremes people out there, who are
you know, farming this outrage, yes, personal profit and amusement.
Most people don't have time for that. Most people are
just living life, trying to make life better for their kids,
trying to make it to soccer practice on Saturday, you know,
trying to get ready for Thanksgiving. They're you know, they're
not so much engaged in outrage, they're engaged in family
in the future.
Speaker 2: Are you going to be home for Thanksgiving? Please tell
me yes, Yes, I am going.
Speaker 3: To be a couple of days that week, but I
will go home for Thanksgiving. So my book comes out
on the eighteen Thanksgiving is of course. Yeah. I will
have traveled a tremendous amount that first few days to
do book appearances. I am grinding it out. I've had
so many public appearances. I have bet remember December and
January book because people have been so generous. They're calling me,
they're inviting me. You know, we want to buy some
books and have you signed them. And I'm doing as
many of them as I can. Might not be on
TV as much because I'm doing a lot of traveling,
but I'm so grateful. I've been invited so many places
to talk about the book and meet the people.
Speaker 1: And well, you're having an impact and people love you
and it's all deserved. One quick question, because I found
out you and I have something in common which I
was not expecting, and that is that you go by
your middle name and I do too, and I wanted
to get your story about that.
Speaker 2: Why do you do that?
Speaker 3: Well, my father is Jeff Jennings, and my name is
Jeffery Scott Jennings. So I was named after my father,
but growing up, my dad was Jeff, and so they
decided to call me Scott at an early age. And
that's just the way it's always been. And so my
dad's Jeff and I'm Scott, but we're Jeffries and interesting
we both spell it unusually. It's j E F F
E R y Oh. Yeah, that is unusual, a little unusual.
I don't know why they I don't know if they
just accidentally juxtaposed the letters or if it was on purpose.
But yes, that's the story. So when I signed the book,
actually I signed Jay Scott Jennings and the Jeff for.
Speaker 2: Okay, well fantastic. I didn't realize that I cannot wait
to read the book. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I know same. It's a revolution of common sense. Again.
It's out on November eighteenth. It's available on Amazon right
now if you want to pre order. Where else can
people know more about you? Find out more about you,
listen to you, watch you, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Okay, So on social media, I spend a lot of
time on the X platform at Scott jennings Ky. That's
also my handle for Facebook and YouTube. I have a
daily radio show on Salem that's two to three each day,
and I stream it on my platform, so if you're
not near a Salem station somewhere, you can listen to it.
It's also in a podcast form, so if you go
to Apple or Spotify and type in Scott Jennings Show,
you can get it. Give me thirty four minutes and
I'll give you the world, I promise. And then on CNN,
I'm around most days a lot of nights. At ten o'clock.
On Wednesdays, I typically do the nine o'clock. I will
be on the Sunday Show you know, fairly frequently as well.
But I try to appear across the network numerous times
a week. And I'm making a lot of public appearances
right now, and I'm going to try to keep people
apprized of that on my social media about where I'm
going to talk about the book and other things. So
I'm not hard to find, but the best way to
reach me is usually on x at Scott jennings Ky.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, and hopefully more often here. You know,
You're always welcome.
Speaker 3: Yes, I I just know that everywhere I go over
the next few weeks the trend will continue. Someone's gonna
walk up with me and say, please take a picture
with me so I can send it to the chicks.
You are going to be. Your inbox will be flooded
with pictures of me on the road. You're our favorite.
Speaker 2: You're our favorite. Scott Jennings, everybody there, Scott, thank.
Speaker 3: You, good to see you all.
Speaker 2: You too.