Speaker 1: Hello ladies, Jillen, Welcome back to the Gimmick. I am,
Speaker 1: as always the Canadian Nightmare. Am joined by the only
Speaker 1: one not to join the Death Riders, David. How's going.
Speaker 2: So so far, so good? Like I said, I'm not
Speaker 2: joining in the Death Riders. They are becoming the nWo solely,
Speaker 2: but surely.
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's a scary that's that's that's a scary comparison.
Speaker 1: Jesuis Yeah, trying to think. So if the so what,
Speaker 1: then I guess that would have been the nWo would
Speaker 1: have been who's hot the original three mox, Claudio and Brian,
Speaker 1: who's the Hogan, Who's the Hall, Who's the Nash? I
Speaker 1: guess Max is Hogan? Right?
Speaker 3: Well, that that also defends because because you're thinking the
Speaker 3: original of like the like THEVCC, because the original Death Riders.
Speaker 4: Was poc Claudio and Moxley.
Speaker 1: Right, because Brian wasn't death right, So that's an even
Speaker 1: scary comparison. Who is who is talk out of the three?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, podcast.
Speaker 2: Has has to be Hall. He's He's the one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I was gonna say, because I feel like,
Speaker 3: because honestly, mox Mox's Hogan Claudio. I could see the
Speaker 3: Kevin Nash a little bit, and then Pac is just
Speaker 3: like the.
Speaker 1: Third guy black hair and they got long black hair,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, as mentioned Doll say the nameless
Speaker 1: right now, s Bobs, how's it going good?
Speaker 3: I was trying to think of a good I was
Speaker 3: trying to do like something Meltzer related, like something story related.
Speaker 3: But I think I'm just gonna go with let's see.
Speaker 1: Has not dropped his radio.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the four point two. Four point
Speaker 3: two star classic is what I'm gonna call.
Speaker 1: It's all subjective, right, you know, that's an all terms.
Speaker 1: Have a good friend from Ray who's used to podcast
Speaker 1: with Brandon has on Vodkra and I always like to
Speaker 1: bug them about that. But it is all subjective, I
Speaker 1: will say. And we're gonna talk about a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff today. We're gonna talk about the seamous news is
Speaker 1: just drop day, We're gonna talk about our Forbidden Door review,
Speaker 1: and then kind of some thoughts about aw and all
Speaker 1: in because it's kind of just kind of like Summer Slam.
Speaker 1: We're getting news as to go along. We're talking about
Speaker 1: Summer Slam and w goings on. So this was one
Speaker 1: of my thoughts for one match, and it's a fine
Speaker 1: match whatever, but Meltzer, if he gives, and don't get wrong,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on the lower end of the
Speaker 1: Mercedes and my World match. I thought it was really
Speaker 1: really good, but I thought, like Meltzer point out, there
Speaker 1: was some spots where just I think you're always fine
Speaker 1: for like one or two maybe botches or miss cute,
Speaker 1: but when when you can I get up to five,
Speaker 1: then I get taken out a little but still really
Speaker 1: good match, great showing for my world. If he gives
Speaker 1: the whatever they call that cage match, I don't know,
Speaker 1: does that have a name or is it just a
Speaker 1: twelve man cage match? Was that it?
Speaker 3: They don't have any It was just a steel cage match.
Speaker 3: But there's like some leaked copyrights for it. Like people
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be called like it's like Door of
Speaker 3: Death or something like that.
Speaker 4: It's like, well the leaked coppy right of it.
Speaker 1: Right, So if if the Door Death for some reason
Speaker 1: it is five stars, then Maya and Sasha in his
Speaker 1: realm would have to be five stars. There's no way.
Speaker 1: And like that's where again I agree with people that
Speaker 1: Dave's definitely a lot more kinder than he was back
Speaker 1: in the like back in the eighties to two thousands,
Speaker 1: you know, like.
Speaker 3: And even then, like people point out, like there's a
Speaker 3: time where like Dave wasn't giving anyone five stars because
Speaker 3: he just like hated wrestling and got into m m
Speaker 3: A and UFC. Like I think if people point out,
Speaker 3: it's like from like two thousand and three to like
Speaker 3: two thousand and like ten or something like that, he
Speaker 3: gets like one five star match.
Speaker 1: And that's the always meme against him, right, the credinal
Speaker 1: has no five star match with like Sewn Michael's Angle
Speaker 1: twenty one. That's a fucking five star. I don't care
Speaker 1: what anyone say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's late, just because like Meltzer, like it wasn't
Speaker 3: even that he was like biasance angle. He's just like
Speaker 3: like wrestling during the time, I was just like forced
Speaker 3: to watch it.
Speaker 1: Where now he says the whole time, like all wrestling's
Speaker 1: never better, Right, So I can't wait to see it
Speaker 1: on the on the few when it happens, because I
Speaker 1: don't care what it actually is. But yeah, in terms
Speaker 1: of comparison, if the cage match gets.
Speaker 3: Come, there's all the conspiracy theories now, like he gave
Speaker 3: it a low rating and like the editors pulled it
Speaker 3: because like they thought like he was gonna get like
Speaker 3: like so many tweets and stuff like like that's literally
Speaker 3: like the conspiracy that he like submitted like like a
Speaker 3: three point seventy five and they and like Brian told
Speaker 3: him he couldn't post it. It's like the conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: A little post it, you know. That's thing. It's like
Speaker 1: I feel like that drives more traffic. Now, let's drives
Speaker 1: traffic because Mercedes is like tweet long and having the
Speaker 1: good times. But like I feel that drives traffic even
Speaker 1: with three points sent five. It's like, Okay, maybe he's
Speaker 1: in the minority, but why is he? But yeah, so
Speaker 1: the the state of Mercedes versus Maya, we will talk
Speaker 1: about that match, and we'll talk about maybe maybe that's
Speaker 1: we'll drop it live matter because he says like the
Speaker 1: next day and it.
Speaker 3: But his follow up he said like, oh, I didn't
Speaker 3: have time to watch it, so maybe I'll watch it
Speaker 3: sometime this week. It's like you're just gonna keep like
Speaker 3: saying like, oh I didn't have time this week, I'll
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 4: Next week.
Speaker 1: That reminds me there was a critic I still listen
Speaker 1: to today. I still I'm a big fan of him.
Speaker 1: But he's a big star orst fan, and he refused
Speaker 1: to review The Rice Skywalker when it came out, just said,
Speaker 1: I watched it, I think a lot of people will
Speaker 1: like it, and that's it. And he wouldn't be on
Speaker 1: and he he was on a network, he wouldn't be
Speaker 1: on any of the podcasts he ran a starred show.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't say anything about it. He just was mom
Speaker 1: any even eventually he talked to like five or four
Speaker 1: years later, but everyone's like, what's you gonna say, and
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I think some people will enjoy it,
Speaker 1: and that's all it was.
Speaker 5: He chose to If I Speak Route, you know, there's
Speaker 5: also that there's a podcast I listened to that if
Speaker 5: It came a running bit that like at one point
Speaker 5: they were gonna review the Snake Guys Gi Joe movie
Speaker 5: and then they ended up like canceling the review because
Speaker 5: like they just didn't want to do it.
Speaker 3: And then the bit became like at the end of
Speaker 3: every episode they would say Snake Eyes review next week,
Speaker 3: or like hype it up, like we're finally gonna do it,
Speaker 3: and it would just like for like three or four
Speaker 3: years after, like after no one remember that movie. They're like, snake, guys,
Speaker 3: review next week, guys, it's happening at the end of
Speaker 3: every episode.
Speaker 1: I should have stayed on Dylan Taylor because they for
Speaker 1: like half a year had the walka thing. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do because Taya's like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'd be there Christmas Day and I'm like, I will
Speaker 1: you go, and then nothing ever happened there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good bit there. So yeah, what we're gonna
Speaker 1: abot We're gonna talk about Shamas news first because that's
Speaker 1: been still cackling some draft stuff. So what we're gonna
Speaker 1: do is, we're talking about Shamus news that dropped. We'll
Speaker 1: do our draft results, but also the shakeup. If people
Speaker 1: don't know, we draft ten, you know, eleven wrestlers in
Speaker 1: like a fantasy football type of way where we get
Speaker 1: points based off wins, main events, cashs, losses, all that
Speaker 1: type of stuff. And this is we do about four
Speaker 1: shakeups a year. This is the first one where we're
Speaker 1: gonna be if we want to draw people at them
Speaker 1: et cetera, all that stuff. So it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens there. It's always a fun time
Speaker 1: because we are going to Summer Slam, so obviously some
Speaker 1: big events there, a little bit of a change up
Speaker 1: because my bank now is all like September now right Stember.
Speaker 3: October, September something. I think it's been moved like three times.
Speaker 1: Their brain can't wire that way. And then yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about the big shows coming up or that have
Speaker 1: happened for both WW and a W. So, David, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hit you with first UF were you surprised they
Speaker 1: fight full supported? And then right after that, Seamous did
Speaker 1: the whole Twitter makeout of makeover. He's as Farley now
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 3: Well that was the thing, like people notice I'd seen
Speaker 3: people tweet about let like maybe two or three days ago.
Speaker 4: He did like the whole layout change, like that was the.
Speaker 3: Tweet that started today, Like there was a big tweet
Speaker 3: like probably nothing but shame has just changed all this
Speaker 3: stuff and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: And then after that is when all the reports came out.
Speaker 1: Oh I missed that, see and I didn't see anyone
Speaker 1: talking about that. So that's when it came up today
Speaker 1: and looks like, yeah, his contracts inspiring. I don't think
Speaker 1: we have like a for sure exact date it's going down,
Speaker 1: but I would imagine it's pretty close with now people
Speaker 1: reporting it. So maybe next month or two something like that,
Speaker 1: maybe even sooner. But yeah, David, what do you think
Speaker 1: about one Seamus's WW run starting all the way back
Speaker 1: from God twenty twelve ish, right when he beat I
Speaker 1: think between he.
Speaker 2: Was the original Roman reigns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he beats Tina. First month into his run,
Speaker 1: he in a tables match and he was getting the rocket.
Speaker 1: There was a big meme. I've even seen today that
Speaker 1: The rumor was he was a big workout buddy with
Speaker 1: Triple Ah, so Trim a big deal with that. They
Speaker 1: even had a WrestleMania match together, which I was there
Speaker 1: for live.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then he kind of had a career rate you know,
Speaker 1: went all over. So yeah, what were your thoughts on
Speaker 1: his career? And then what are your thoughts on what
Speaker 1: he could do after now?
Speaker 2: I think that as it stands right now, his career
Speaker 2: will be a series. Uh he was great, but what
Speaker 2: if like he was great, but what if he wasn't
Speaker 2: thrown into the mid card League of Nations stuff. He
Speaker 2: was great, but what if they hadn't done this? Like, yes,
Speaker 2: he's got some good moments and some great memories. I
Speaker 2: mean him and Brian with that eighteen second opener and
Speaker 2: you know, having that whole thing like that that will
Speaker 2: be forever etched in people's memories. The flip side of
Speaker 2: that is him coming back posting Ninja Turtles with the
Speaker 2: braided up beard and crazy mohawk like that's that's also
Speaker 2: a side of shams that we're just like, oh, you're
Speaker 2: here to disrupt everything else that's going on and take
Speaker 2: the Dolliphon Romans.
Speaker 1: World title win. To remember that's the last thing when
Speaker 1: the world titles rocking that Uh whatever luck he was going.
Speaker 2: So I think that he will always be a series
Speaker 2: of I mean, he was good, but he was never
Speaker 2: that guy. Never felt like that guy. He he did
Speaker 2: good though as a secondary champion, but he's not the
Speaker 2: poster boy. He's not for those Cody's terms. He's not
Speaker 2: the quarterback. He's not that guy that that you rely on,
Speaker 2: you know, and he works better in an era where
Speaker 2: they have two World championships rather than one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you see now host w W does
Speaker 1: take a little break. Is he surprise entrance at Wembley?
Speaker 1: Does he go to Japan, does he go to NWA?
Speaker 1: Where does he end?
Speaker 2: I honestly think that he's just trolling the fans and
Speaker 2: that he'll be back.
Speaker 1: I don't I.
Speaker 2: Don't see him leaving. I don't see him him walking
Speaker 2: away from the comfort. Don't see him walking away from
Speaker 2: the friendships with Drew and Russive and everything else.
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, they can still be friend Like
Speaker 3: he was still friends with Russa when Russa was in
Speaker 3: AW that whole time, like post like pictures and stuff,
Speaker 3: and like, I don't think that's what's keeping him from But.
Speaker 2: He knows he's not winning the World Championship in ae
Speaker 2: W with the caliber of people that they currently have
Speaker 2: in the World Championship scene. So why jump? Why why
Speaker 2: jump over there when you have the comfort over here.
Speaker 2: You can take the time off, you can go home,
Speaker 2: you can go do all these things. You can go
Speaker 2: do ambassador stuff where they just send you to soccer
Speaker 2: games around the world and you get to do all
Speaker 2: the fun shit that you love to do in AW.
Speaker 2: The most that they're going to do is send him
Speaker 2: to Jack's games and send him to Fulham Games.
Speaker 1: What why I feel like you're discounting on do with him.
Speaker 1: You know you don't want to Riders.
Speaker 2: I I don't. I do not see him being anything
Speaker 2: other than a the next Jericho where he's just the
Speaker 2: older guy that you got the nostalgia and you're like
Speaker 2: that was fun and he's gonna pick up some wins
Speaker 2: every now and then, but he's never gonna be that
Speaker 2: guy that you are rooting to win or you're like, man,
Speaker 2: I can't believe he found another way to win again.
Speaker 2: He's he's gonna be Puck with the fifty to fifty booking.
Speaker 1: Hey, I honestly my take one world title run though I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna say my take is that I think Shamus
Speaker 3: an age of you would be like Lashly but with
Speaker 3: a higher ceiling, because I don't think TK would be
Speaker 3: scared to put Shamus like give him a world title
Speaker 3: match like Lastly, Like I don't know he like five
Speaker 3: minutes before the match, he's like I'm going out there
Speaker 3: and I'm shoot.
Speaker 4: Pinning, uh your world here?
Speaker 2: Three? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that that's that's my take, Like I think
Speaker 3: he would get like I think he could have, like
Speaker 3: he could get a tag title run with Claudio, he
Speaker 3: could win like a TNT title, a continental title and
Speaker 3: hold that for a bit.
Speaker 4: Like I think there's potential with.
Speaker 1: God Forbid Roh as well though too. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: go anchor Roh for you know.
Speaker 2: The other thing is he and his wife have posted
Speaker 2: a lot over the last two years about the freedoms
Speaker 2: that they've got to enjoy because of his career, and
Speaker 2: I think that will be a deciding factor for him
Speaker 2: to stay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the same thing too, or well with that,
Speaker 1: because you're not wrong, Like even though he did get
Speaker 1: released this time, the same thing happened with Santo's x
Speaker 1: bar right his contract was expiring. He was at the
Speaker 1: door and then they got him back and then they
Speaker 1: did nothing with him, sent him a triple A and
Speaker 1: then released him. So I don't think it's one hundred
Speaker 1: percent done, but I think it. I think why it's
Speaker 1: gonna be one hundred percent done for me, like I
Speaker 1: am ninety nine percent, is just because I don't know
Speaker 1: what WDE wants to do with him. They don't eve
Speaker 1: want to give him icy title run, which I kind
Speaker 1: of understood when they're making it like a bigger title
Speaker 1: with Okay, Gunthra has now Sammy now it's back to
Speaker 1: Panther Panha Penta. It's definitely the secondary title, right, like
Speaker 1: Seamus could easily come and win it now. I do
Speaker 1: also wonder if it's if he got because there was
Speaker 1: tons of people that thought he was the one that
Speaker 1: took the pay cut, right. I don't know where that
Speaker 1: came from, but there was that rumor. Maybe that was
Speaker 1: the idea though, of hey, your next contract if you
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 3: It seems like it definitely like they definitely offered him
Speaker 3: to be one of the people to take it, but
Speaker 3: seems he wasn't one of the ones who actually did
Speaker 3: take it, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where you know again all the eyes
Speaker 1: are gonna be on the miss now. But still Seamus,
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, I don't know where he can go.
Speaker 1: What I what I would say is I think that
Speaker 1: he's gonna go to AW But I think what they'll
Speaker 1: do is they'll do because somebody else. I think Bendido
Speaker 1: had one of these. I think Swerve had one of these.
Speaker 1: I could see them doing a one year deal or
Speaker 1: they do like sometimes it was like one half year deal.
Speaker 1: Or who didn't know Kevin Knight, didn't.
Speaker 4: He Kevin Knight.
Speaker 3: Kevin Knight and Tekla had one year deal where it
Speaker 3: was like, let's see how they do, and tech Lari
Speaker 3: signed like I think like six months before her deal
Speaker 3: is up, and Kevin Knight was like pretty much one
Speaker 3: year like he did his full deal and then the
Speaker 3: signed them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I see happening with Seamus is because
Speaker 1: I think there's tons of good three point two five
Speaker 1: to four point two five. I don't think there's any
Speaker 1: five star classics for me, aw, but you never know.
Speaker 1: I've seen people tweeened about sure you throw him in
Speaker 1: there with Darby, maybe something match is gonna happen because
Speaker 1: like Darby just gels with those big brute guys, right,
Speaker 1: But I think there is a year's worth of matches
Speaker 1: if he wants to work that way. Remember though, he's
Speaker 1: also a guy that's had lots of injuries, so it
Speaker 1: might be another case of I'm just gonna do the cons.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the indies, make my money there, and
Speaker 1: I'm happy, and maybe he comes back to WT, like
Speaker 1: the rumor is fucking Baron Corban's coming back. I don't
Speaker 1: understand that at all. I've said that before, Like I
Speaker 1: don't hate Baron Corban, it is like Baron Corbin Seamus.
Speaker 1: That's like clearly he keeps Shamous right. But that's where
Speaker 1: it's like maybe Seamous does that for a little bit
Speaker 1: then comes back to the FED. But I think there's
Speaker 1: juice for a one year run for Shame's at aw
Speaker 1: like him and brody king him and darby him and Claudia,
Speaker 1: whether it's teamy or whatnot, if they wanted to, it'd
Speaker 1: be kind of great. If they they're not gonna, but
Speaker 1: if you kicked Moxy out. I'm not saying Shame is
Speaker 1: to be the leader. I'm just saying that could be
Speaker 1: another person to add to the group as like a muscle.
Speaker 1: And that's where him and Claudia are going, right, even
Speaker 1: Claudia became the leader, which I think could be an
Speaker 1: anchor to the group because he's not the grace on
Speaker 1: the mic. Maybe you just have Marina talk, which you
Speaker 1: know that's if he sometimes too. But at all, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna forget about it. Fuck, I'm so dumb with t
Speaker 1: can Marina, the fact that she she couldn't even get
Speaker 1: me in the TBS like Survival of Fit Is.
Speaker 3: It's like they and then Harley got eliminated in the
Speaker 3: match in like forty five seconds.
Speaker 1: I don't get it, Like, you can't. You cannot build
Speaker 1: a dominant monster, you know, bait or heel, woman or man,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can't build the monsters. They just lose.
Speaker 3: We've talked about I told you that. That's my subs
Speaker 3: told you that. I said, like, if she loses against Tony,
Speaker 3: like it's over for her, and then that's what happened.
Speaker 1: It was I just thought, okay, maybe told.
Speaker 3: Me she would do singles matches and it would all
Speaker 3: DQ's non finished, like she would never get a reel win.
Speaker 3: I said, the Tony match, that's like if she beats her, okay.
Speaker 4: She's gonna push. She loses, it's over.
Speaker 1: Or obviously Tony's gone somewhere we'll find in the future.
Speaker 1: But even if Tony lost that match, that would never
Speaker 1: have impacted her. She would have been completely fine, where
Speaker 1: Marina would at least like giving her a big win.
Speaker 1: So I'm just I still am a marina'ster fear of supporter,
Speaker 1: but I've just given up on Like I think it's over.
Speaker 1: It's I'm like Dolph Ziggler in twenty fourteen. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's over. We're not getting anything else, are we. But yeah,
Speaker 1: with Seamus, I think there's tons of matches. He could
Speaker 1: do tons of stuff. Yeah, I know people again are
Speaker 1: booking him in the in the g One or the
Speaker 1: Condo Classic. Again. I don't know what his body's like nowadays,
Speaker 1: So if it's somewhere he doesn't want to work too hard,
Speaker 1: that could be in it. But that's my prediction. It's
Speaker 1: like a one year deal. See how it goes, and
Speaker 1: then go from there and its w career. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well David said, it's been a lot of ups and downs, right.
Speaker 1: He did have that rocket push like the Roman Rains
Speaker 1: thing where it beats John Cena's first month in the match.
Speaker 1: It holds that title almost to mania. He wins it
Speaker 1: multiple times. I think what kind of hampered him was
Speaker 1: they should have never ever he got poppled, but they
Speaker 1: should have never ever tried to push him as like
Speaker 1: a top baby face. He should have just been a
Speaker 1: top heel the whole time, like he always worked better
Speaker 1: that way, even with the ugly look. It's like still
Speaker 1: people chanted like you were uglier. You look, I can't
Speaker 1: remember what the chant.
Speaker 4: Was, batter because you look stupid.
Speaker 1: But that's fine as a heel, right, sure get that
Speaker 1: he at least are making noise. So I think there's
Speaker 1: times like the bar that worked as a baby face.
Speaker 1: But when he was like that, oh yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: like I'll kick yours, so I'm all like he'd be
Speaker 1: that like comedic baby face. It just which Vince was
Speaker 1: obsessed with that era. It didn't work when he went
Speaker 1: over to SmackDown. He was wrestling like Mark Henry and
Speaker 1: other people in Big Show. It just there was something missing,
Speaker 1: and that's where the eighteen seconds that kind of crucified
Speaker 1: him for a little bit too, because Daniel Bryan was
Speaker 1: clearly the guy people wanted, but then Seamus was the
Speaker 1: figurehead of no, this is who you're getting in that moment,
Speaker 1: as everyone said, why don't you do a double turn?
Speaker 1: And they never did. If people don't remember, Brian said
Speaker 1: heel for like another year, even though he was the
Speaker 1: most popular person on the roster, people were chanting yes,
Speaker 1: they still like na, no, you go out there and
Speaker 1: be a heel. You you do your thing. So I
Speaker 1: think a lack of booking, and I think, yeah, a
Speaker 1: lack of like mice skills for shames. I don't think
Speaker 1: he was awful. I think he just he had a
Speaker 1: certain bar there, right, no pun intended, but that's where
Speaker 1: the heel. I think he could have been better to
Speaker 1: whether it was by choice or not. Triple H was
Speaker 1: always smart by going, hey, Rock's huge, Austin's huge. I
Speaker 1: can't get to their levels. A good guy, I'm not
Speaker 1: on that. I can't do what they do. But what
Speaker 1: I can do is I can be the flip side.
Speaker 1: And that's what he should have done. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: never turn babyface, but more often than not he should
Speaker 1: have been like no, no, no, like keep me to the heel,
Speaker 1: like do something else. And I know you got to
Speaker 1: freshen him up, but as a babyface, it just didn't
Speaker 1: feel the best. Everyone was excited by when he had
Speaker 1: the brutes, but obviously Pete done. Nothing happened there Ridge
Speaker 1: Hall and that all went down. So again, that was
Speaker 1: kind of stuff that was out of his control. So
Speaker 1: and yeah, sure he didn't win the Icy title, but
Speaker 1: it's all right. He's a three time world champion. He
Speaker 1: had matches at WrestleMania with Triple H and other people,
Speaker 1: Like he had a very he had a solid like
Speaker 1: B tier hall. Like if he's say no Day, he
Speaker 1: would be a Hall of Fame guy. But like in
Speaker 1: like the in like the Beat, you're not the first ballot, but.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he's not headlining, but he is somebody who's
Speaker 2: getting in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if Coke will Beware can be in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame like Shamus would be. He had many great moments,
Speaker 1: many great matches, even this last year, like he had
Speaker 1: that great one with Russive I think, right that was
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 4: That was last year.
Speaker 3: He's been injured since his last match would be seen
Speaker 3: his last like match gen Raw.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so yeah that and even then which is
Speaker 1: so funny. He's a part of Johnson Edge's last WWE match.
Speaker 1: That's funny. But even the Edge match that was tons
Speaker 1: of fun. That was maybe Edge's best match since before
Speaker 1: he started team with Christian, you know. Like, so Shave
Speaker 1: has had a very good career. I think he'll probably
Speaker 1: be welcome back in the future, excited to see what
Speaker 1: he does. But I do think he's a cat.
Speaker 3: I feel like he's one of those guys who like
Speaker 3: because because people say like, oh, like some of these
Speaker 3: people go to a w's like they wouldn't even come
Speaker 3: back for like a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: I feel like Shame is like if they put him in,
Speaker 4: like even after he's done with AW, he would.
Speaker 1: Go back to be for Hall of Fame. That's the
Speaker 1: only people say.
Speaker 4: People say Moxley is little.
Speaker 1: Moxley is the only one that I think I might be.
Speaker 1: But again, like you remember too, like themo Monks and
Speaker 1: when he's like sixty nostalgy like, it's different in that time,
Speaker 1: right to me? The reason I think Max will go
Speaker 1: in if Warrior and Brett Hart both went in, Max
Speaker 1: is going in.
Speaker 4: I say, I don't know. I like if people say, like,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't be like Solo, but he I think he
Speaker 2: would do it for this shield. I think he would
Speaker 2: do it for for his brothers in the Shield. I
Speaker 2: mean he probably merged money. He probably wouldn't talk much,
Speaker 2: you know, just be there to do the thing. But
Speaker 2: I think that he would definitely show up for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a cool thing to say. O.
Speaker 1: I'm not like Jericho's always said that too, like oh
Speaker 1: if everything Doug, I'm not gonna show up. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. I don't believe you for a
Speaker 1: second that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: And I think his is more like he likes to
Speaker 2: kiss Tony Kahan's ass. Plus he has this weird loyaltied
Speaker 2: evinced Oh you guys ousted my boy. Well I'm not
Speaker 2: coming back and all this other stuff. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: your boy was. It's a PDF file. That's why he got.
Speaker 1: So wet to see what happens there. I suppose you
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit. But yeah, you think he's
Speaker 1: a AW bound.
Speaker 4: I think so. I think definitely.
Speaker 1: Uh that's well, t K comes to you first. It says,
Speaker 1: let's say it's a one time thing. Let's say I
Speaker 1: only having him in for one match, one special. Who
Speaker 1: would you pay him against Mine's Darby? I agree with
Speaker 1: everybody Darby's Darby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would probably agree with that, just because like
Speaker 3: Darby is like very much like an AW guy.
Speaker 4: Like if if we could do one match, that would
Speaker 4: be it. But if it's not Darby, then like I'm
Speaker 4: trying to think, like no, I mean just I mean
Speaker 4: I would say, like just just call up. You know,
Speaker 4: he's always there.
Speaker 3: Backstage for some reason, just just get ECHI.
Speaker 4: You know, on a time away him and Shamous like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with each other.
Speaker 2: He can run him back against Claudio that that best
Speaker 2: of Sava is what traded the bar and you know
Speaker 2: they were having some great matches there. I just I
Speaker 2: have a hard time seeing him leaving his comfort and
Speaker 2: making the jump when I know he is not going
Speaker 2: to be a top guy, like he.
Speaker 1: Is offering a bunch of money though, right, yeah that's
Speaker 1: unds like they can get like he could get the
Speaker 1: bag and I mean, yeah, I don't think he'd be
Speaker 1: like one of these guys is like.
Speaker 3: Wrestling on Dynamite every single week, and like I mean
Speaker 3: he was like when he's healthy on Raw, like he
Speaker 3: was wrestling pretty often, or even just like doing a
Speaker 3: promo backstage, like he'd be doing the same amount of
Speaker 3: work in AW and getting paid more. I mean there's
Speaker 3: no house shows than AW, like Shamus would be on
Speaker 3: those house shows when he did them. So to me,
Speaker 3: it makes sense, like I think he's like one hundred
Speaker 3: percent going to the AW like none of the other
Speaker 3: like options make sense unless just like Tony's just not
Speaker 3: interested at all, would be like the only other option.
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, yeah, there's rumors about that with
Speaker 1: Gargana because people have been pitching that people like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not really a Gargano guy, you know, So that's
Speaker 1: what it all comes down to.
Speaker 4: You Like, even it's.
Speaker 3: Like them like the Mustafa a thing too, like Mustafa
Speaker 3: Le like he even let like he went to like
Speaker 3: he went to TNA and he was there for like
Speaker 3: a couple of months and then he like he lost
Speaker 3: like some big match and left, and.
Speaker 4: The rumor is like always gonna go.
Speaker 3: To like a w and then he just came back
Speaker 3: to CNA like three months later.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, Tony didn't didn't want to, which.
Speaker 3: Is crazy to me, which is weird because he's like
Speaker 3: the best wrestler in TNA and they should give him
Speaker 3: the world title.
Speaker 1: And that feels like that's like a TK up his bag,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's something like I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is. And again, who knows. Sometimes maybe it's just
Speaker 1: even a personally maybe met some like I like his vibe,
Speaker 1: you know, because that was the same thing Evil That
Speaker 1: Evil was never on for Bendor shows because Tony just
Speaker 1: wasn't a fan of his work and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want that on you never know, right, the
Speaker 1: same like we talked all the time Vincent Mann Christian,
Speaker 1: he pretty much hated Christian. He not like he got
Speaker 1: that he's a good worker and got with educ Christian.
Speaker 1: But again this man wanted to put a dot over
Speaker 1: the guy's face while he wrestled and thought like that
Speaker 1: would be a good gimmick. Sometimes there's just people and
Speaker 1: we all have those, right, awesome theory if I got
Speaker 1: if I became, if Tony Kahn said hey, I'm gone
Speaker 1: for six months, you're gonna book for me, and there's
Speaker 1: his free agents. If I'm sorry, if awesome theory is
Speaker 1: off for me, I'm not taking them. I'm not saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I just haven't seen enough for me. Right, So they
Speaker 1: all have those, So yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be interesting. Again.
Speaker 1: I also think New Japan would be great, but like
Speaker 1: they said, like if he doesn't want you to travel,
Speaker 1: you know, I doubt that's him, because New Japan would
Speaker 1: be great if they got more stars. But again the money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing with New Japan is that like and
Speaker 3: even that like well they do have like the new
Speaker 3: thing of like now they're with the new company and
Speaker 3: supposedly that is bringing like some like TV deal type
Speaker 3: money to them. But even then it's like, yeah, if
Speaker 3: you're comparing that to like.
Speaker 4: Like people say, like the people who go to.
Speaker 3: Japan, like to New Japan or Noah or stuff like that,
Speaker 3: it's just pure like you're doing it for the love
Speaker 3: the game at that point, like like the Good Brothers,
Speaker 3: like they're they're out there working, like if you'l say,
Speaker 3: like the Good Brothers are like.
Speaker 4: The meme like bag Getters.
Speaker 3: But like they're out there in Japan just just working
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe that's the thing too. Like look at Brian,
Speaker 1: like he wanted to go to Triple A's whole life
Speaker 1: to work like or wherever to work CML yeah, CEM
Speaker 1: how to work. What's his name, blue Blue Panther, Blue Panther. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it could be that if Seamus has always dreamed
Speaker 1: about going to Japan or he just wants to do that,
Speaker 1: if he's saved up not from w be, he can
Speaker 1: do that right now, he can just.
Speaker 3: Do like yeah, like maybe not sign in New Japan,
Speaker 3: but like there's that point like two three years ago
Speaker 3: where New Japan they brought in Zigler and Matt Riddle
Speaker 3: for like three matches just because like they were just
Speaker 3: like the free agents and like people like the matches
Speaker 3: are not very good and it wasn't a fit at all,
Speaker 3: but like they they can say that they wrestle. I
Speaker 3: think they even had like a tokyo to match. I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure, like for like the strong belt or something
Speaker 3: like that. But that could be seamous, like have like
Speaker 3: two three matches were there for some big show that.
Speaker 1: Beat them, Just beat them, you know, just do that.
Speaker 1: Done so, but yeah, we'll have to see what happens there.
Speaker 1: SS you got that draft.
Speaker 4: Ready, I think I'm almost done.
Speaker 1: Done, so, yeah, we got the draft for now. I'll
Speaker 1: read off who we have right now, everybody, so s
Speaker 1: Bo Scotts and we'll explain the rules of the dropping after.
Speaker 1: But he's got EO Sky, Randy Orton, Penta, Javon Evans,
Speaker 1: j Usso Bailey, Raquel Rodriguez, Carmelo Hayes Lash legend and
Speaker 1: Dan Howisen a legendary pick that almost paid off there.
Speaker 1: And then his jobber is Kit Wilson. You might be
Speaker 1: wondering why you have a jobber. We'll all of us
Speaker 1: get points on these jobbers if they lose their matches.
Speaker 4: So and you lose points as they win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right, Yeah, so it's a it's a double
Speaker 1: edged sword there. My picks, I have Rhea Ripley, Roman Reigns,
Speaker 1: Brown Breaker, Live Morgan, seth Rawlins, Trick Williams, Rock Sand Perez,
Speaker 1: l A Knight, and Finn Bala. My jobber is Russa
Speaker 1: who you know, that's that's sad that that is the case,
Speaker 1: but you know he's been losing still, so I'm kind
Speaker 1: of fine with it. And then David's pace he has
Speaker 1: Cody Rhodes, Oba fem see Him Punk, Stephanie vak Here, Gunther,
Speaker 1: Becky Lynch, Jacob To, Charlotte Flair, Drew McIntyre and Dom Mysterio.
Speaker 1: And his jobber rightly, so is Matt Cardona, who that's
Speaker 1: a good pick.
Speaker 4: Is he's winning.
Speaker 3: He's a tag team with Dan Housen now and they
Speaker 3: don't lose.
Speaker 1: That's true now now, Yeah, because the Dan Houson effect
Speaker 1: that's happening, I legitimately think there is a chance they
Speaker 1: might put the tag titles on them in the future
Speaker 1: SmackDown or nothing, And uh yeah again, Matt Cardona. I
Speaker 1: know there's some quote going around being like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they really invested Matt Cardona, not Zach Ryder. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be back. It's like, brother, just cash's checks
Speaker 1: while you can. I'm happy for you. But like again,
Speaker 1: this guy came back. You someone win the Derby title,
Speaker 1: and look where he is. He's getting zappeding someone Zach Ryder.
Speaker 1: It's like it's over. It's over. It's over. It's over
Speaker 1: for him. Stay happy. You're getting the matches and the
Speaker 1: money and you're with your wife there. So yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I suppose you could to go now, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: All right, what are the standings before we do our dropping,
Speaker 1: because what we do is we all do our drops
Speaker 1: first so people know what's on the board, and then
Speaker 1: we'll do our picks.
Speaker 4: All right, so uh, I can do this sorder.
Speaker 3: So I'm in last with eighty eight points because I
Speaker 3: started off so bad. Then David is in second with
Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety two points, and then Travis is
Speaker 3: in first with two sixty three.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I got a good I got a good
Speaker 1: lead here. Oh man, people, MGF sorry throwing smoke at Seamus.
Speaker 1: I see I forgot that got this interaction Shamus to
Speaker 1: lead all his tweets from it. I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: There you go. I have the beach break Heart too. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so what we're gonna do? So Espa the where is
Speaker 1: s pubs myself? And then David Sobs got to do
Speaker 1: his drop fort so Spob's who if anybody are you
Speaker 1: dropping from your roster?
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna drop. I'm dropping lash Legend.
Speaker 1: Oh you you've given up on the push.
Speaker 4: Don't Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think they've given up on the push too. After
Speaker 3: that one SmackDown clip that came out.
Speaker 1: What was this clip? Because I don't watch the Weekly.
Speaker 3: It's a clip where like there it happened on like
Speaker 3: one of the tape shows, and they try to edit
Speaker 3: it out on TV and it still looked bad.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know the classic.
Speaker 3: Spot of a wrestler where they're on the ropes and
Speaker 3: they pull the rope down and the other person is
Speaker 3: like running towards.
Speaker 4: Them and like falls out of the ring, like it.
Speaker 3: Was her and Chelsea Green, and like Chelsea pulled the
Speaker 3: rope down, but like lash Legend wasn't running, she was
Speaker 3: just like standing in the middle of ring and like
Speaker 3: saw Chelsea pull the rope down just like walked over
Speaker 3: and threw herself out of the ring, and they like
Speaker 3: tried to use other camera angles, but there's just no
Speaker 3: no saving it. And after that, I don't think she
Speaker 3: said like her and I have been like gone off
Speaker 3: TV after that, so.
Speaker 1: That better the case. They gave her such a push
Speaker 1: in the chamber and the rumble if it's just like done,
Speaker 1: like hopefully it's just because she got married one some
Speaker 1: time off, but okay, yeah that could be too.
Speaker 3: But I should write this down. I got, we forgot,
Speaker 3: So I'm dropping lash Legend. I'm dropping I'm dropping Randy
Speaker 3: Orton because this point he's just I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 3: come back now on like SmackDown, but I'm dropping him.
Speaker 3: He screwed me like like at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: Those were guaranteed may win points and.
Speaker 3: Then yeah, I thought that that was how it's gonna win,
Speaker 3: Like that was my snus strap.
Speaker 1: But it Cody just punt Randy. You know, for how
Speaker 1: long Randy's been gone, you could have played in the whole.
Speaker 1: Like Cody's getting desperates Champ, He's getting a little bit
Speaker 1: more dangerous, like Cody got a black eye for nothing.
Speaker 1: He got a black eye for nothing, like he got
Speaker 1: punted black eye. On TV the next week, Randy Orton
Speaker 1: did the punting. Gone haven't seen or heard a pete
Speaker 1: from him? Crazy?
Speaker 4: Then I think I'm gonna drop Raquel.
Speaker 1: That's a good call. I think they're kind of I
Speaker 1: think they're cool on honor.
Speaker 4: And I don't know Dan Housen. He's putting up numbers.
Speaker 4: I can't lie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think those take titles in this count of year.
Speaker 1: I ain't been the chance.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a high chance even if
Speaker 1: they do like a multi man like ladder match. I
Speaker 1: can see Dan House on top of a fucking ladder
Speaker 1: poll down those things, like I really can.
Speaker 4: So I kind of want to keep him.
Speaker 3: You know what, I think I'm gonna drop, uh the
Speaker 3: warning shot man himself.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna drop James.
Speaker 1: So the ring. Why are you dropping j I feel like,
Speaker 1: isn't a good point gutter for you?
Speaker 3: Not really like I feel like because there was a yeah,
Speaker 3: with the bloodline, he didn't wrestle for like two for like, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can see here there's like a stretch of like
Speaker 3: a full month where he pretty much didn't wrestle.
Speaker 1: They're all about the promos. Yeah, that's that's fair actually,
Speaker 1: because before Bloodline he was like a.
Speaker 4: Guy like, yeah, that's why I draft that. He was
Speaker 4: wrestling like every week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then after Bloodline he just became literally like
Speaker 3: the guy who stands behind rowing.
Speaker 1: We talk now, we talk now. So okay, Jay's gone.
Speaker 1: So you've dropped four people so far? Is that in
Speaker 1: or one more?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think because some of these were like
Speaker 3: kind of bad when I picked them, another they might
Speaker 3: have become good.
Speaker 4: But I think I'm gonna drop Bailey as well.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Bailey, like, that's a sad, really
Speaker 1: have to drop her. But I feel like I don't
Speaker 1: see her doing much. And apparently there's like people said,
Speaker 1: there's rumors that are contracts is fine on the end
Speaker 1: this year based off the shamous thing, there was something
Speaker 1: that came up. I don't know because it was on
Speaker 1: Fightful's website or their Patreon. They have like contracts and again, Bailey,
Speaker 1: if your contract expires, run get out of here. You
Speaker 1: and Mercedes can hold the fucking women's tag til aw
Speaker 1: for a year, get paid, do whatever, have like like
Speaker 1: do it, just do it please? They're doing nothing with you.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's over, it's done, go wrestle dream the poster. Uh.
Speaker 4: And then I think I'm trying to think. Actually always picked.
Speaker 1: Them up, back up again later right if no one's
Speaker 1: like you can always always.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna drop my job.
Speaker 3: Or someone can have Kit Wilson if they want.
Speaker 1: To wow over half of subs or just yeah now
Speaker 1: half s Roster gone fine.
Speaker 4: I had really mad fakes, to be honest.
Speaker 1: Randy screw, I don't actually all three, I'd say, Randy,
Speaker 1: Lash and Jay should have all been better for you.
Speaker 1: Jay was working more, Lash was gonna get to push.
Speaker 1: Randy should be champ. You know, I'll see what we thought.
Speaker 1: So I see those Raquel and Bailey those were and
Speaker 1: kid he was losing a lot. Are they doing anything
Speaker 1: in that toxic thing?
Speaker 3: They got like electrocuted and now they're like they're like
Speaker 3: zombies and Dan Housen house them like in his lap
Speaker 3: like side up.
Speaker 1: Is he's a fucking Frankensteins.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, he did a match on a
Speaker 3: house show like Dan Housen versus Miss where miss was
Speaker 3: rested and like like a zombie like he was like
Speaker 3: walking around.
Speaker 1: I saw.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that that'll make TV.
Speaker 1: But I beg at least to make a main event
Speaker 1: or something. But okay, I got now, so off see,
Speaker 1: I don't know until I wins the next ship up.
Speaker 1: We're doing it before money the bank.
Speaker 4: Right like after Yeah, before money in the bank.
Speaker 1: Like August fallish sort of dale. Yeah. So this might
Speaker 1: screw me because she might walk out on a SmackDown
Speaker 1: and say she's gone for six eight months. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep re Ripley for now because if she's around,
Speaker 1: she'll always be the world title. And the fact that
Speaker 1: I'm stripped her to me makes me think it's just
Speaker 1: like an injury they're gonna work through and hope for
Speaker 1: the best. I'm keeping the big dog. He's taking me
Speaker 1: all the way like he's gonna be made in all time.
Speaker 1: We'll circle back to We'll circle back to Brown Breaker.
Speaker 1: I'm unsure on him live Moregan on keeping even though
Speaker 1: it's been a ship around, she's arresting Tricky Williams and
Speaker 1: keeping Seth and keeping I'm gonna drop all these bombs. Three.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop Roxanne. I'm gonna drop l A. Knight.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop Finn Valor Roxanne. She's just really like
Speaker 1: she's just cooled off. I know she's like wrestling, but
Speaker 1: I thought there's gonna be more with her and live
Speaker 1: and maybe that might happen down the line.
Speaker 3: I know I've seen he's gonna do a Finn Valor
Speaker 3: summer slam, a face turn, you know, with the classic
Speaker 3: photo here.
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, I feel like I could
Speaker 1: pick her up again, like down the line, right like
Speaker 1: in the fall. Right now, I just feel like she
Speaker 1: ain't cooking l A.
Speaker 2: Knight.
Speaker 1: It's over for him, you know. I share the thing
Speaker 1: to discord three years ago yesterday, trible A saying big
Speaker 1: things to those who come away. When I saw Jimmy
Speaker 1: usso I know that he achieved it. Still, Jimmy usould
Speaker 1: just beat l A.
Speaker 2: Knight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a I do now believe those rooms that
Speaker 1: triblely just doesn't like this guy. Uh and then Finn
Speaker 1: ballor same thing. I feel like they kind of missed.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they can't reheat him up, but it
Speaker 1: felt like after the Dawn thing and the Demon's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the time that even if you want to
Speaker 1: get him the secondary title right away. But unfortunately he's
Speaker 1: on SmackDown. We're trick Will Damn, that's the Damien Priet
Speaker 1: Cody Roads watching.
Speaker 4: Sam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's Holyn a goodie. But uh no, I
Speaker 1: think they just they missed the like the shamous thing.
Speaker 1: They missed the band winging again on Finn Ballad where
Speaker 1: he was finally like heated up again and now he's
Speaker 1: just like god, like, what is he?
Speaker 4: What's his last feuding with the tongue is now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, brother, So.
Speaker 4: I keeping Logan Paul?
Speaker 1: Uh what did you say?
Speaker 4: You're keeping Logan Paul.
Speaker 2: The remaining member division I last spot?
Speaker 1: When did I have Logan Paul?
Speaker 2: You have real Roman Braun lived, Trick, Seth Rocks in
Speaker 2: l A Knight, Finn Baler, Logan Paul job.
Speaker 1: Then I'm definitely getting rid of Paul. Thank you guys
Speaker 1: for remind me so.
Speaker 3: In that case, he has wrestled two matches in the
Speaker 3: entire time that we've done this season.
Speaker 1: Jeesuh, he was wrestling more when I got him. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll keep running in that sense, I don't think now.
Speaker 1: Don't get wrong, there's always a chance. Comes September, maybe
Speaker 1: they feel better like Okay, get the money bank on them.
Speaker 1: But I feel like he is gonna be more of
Speaker 1: a mid card guy for now. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: over for Braun is like a world champ. I think
Speaker 1: they just cooled him off, and I feel like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of these things that when he wins
Speaker 1: the title, be like, ah, they missed the boat. And
Speaker 1: I think he can still be a guy. But I
Speaker 1: think they kind of bungled a little bit on being
Speaker 1: the top guy. He's going to be closer we just
Speaker 1: talked about. I think he's gonna be more of a
Speaker 1: shamous than a batista, which is what they were lying
Speaker 1: up to be. Remember last fall when he speared Seth
Speaker 1: and that fucking grainy photo of him with that world
Speaker 1: title was going around and I was like, this is
Speaker 1: the guy. It's gone. It's like it's the meme. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Obah took it from him. So yeah, I'm dropping Logan,
Speaker 1: Paul Finnbaler, l A Knight, and Rox and Press gonna
Speaker 1: keep Russo I think, unfortunately, I'm not trying to say
Speaker 1: bad stuff. I don't know how much longer Russ is
Speaker 1: going to be around in WWE. But I think as
Speaker 1: he is, he's gonna keep losing. I can see him
Speaker 1: being a part of the next cut. So I don't want,
Speaker 1: I don't want to we to lose her job. So
Speaker 1: I hope not for his sake, but I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna just keep losing, so I'll keep him around there.
Speaker 1: So David, the floor is yours for your your.
Speaker 2: DRAMs, alright, So I am going to drop uh, Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 2: I'm going to drop Becky. I I'm nervous about their
Speaker 2: utilization of her.
Speaker 1: She always win that world title at any point though.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that that that kind of has me on
Speaker 2: the fifty to fifty. And you know what, if I
Speaker 2: swing around and she's back available, then then maybe I'll
Speaker 2: get her. But I'm just I'm so iffy.
Speaker 1: And then let's talk a lot though, right, I supposed
Speaker 1: to get much points for David promos.
Speaker 4: Let me say I just deleted it.
Speaker 3: She had the win at WrestleMania, then one other match,
Speaker 3: losing the title, one other loss, and then that was it.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not much. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: leave that over there. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then I am going to drop Stephanie Vick here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I am going to drop Matt Cardona.
Speaker 1: What was your job? Okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's starting to get you negative points now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he'll get him on the flip side. Maybe
Speaker 1: he'll get him on the drafting side. So all right, Spubs,
Speaker 1: you got one jobber and then you have one, two, three, four, five, six,
Speaker 1: you got forced lots of phill. Where are you going first?
Speaker 4: Hm? Hmmm. I have I have some good options.
Speaker 1: I think people around right now have good upside.
Speaker 3: So I think I'm gonna go with Oh I didn't
Speaker 3: even have this personal on my list, but now I
Speaker 3: just thought about them. Unless someone know someone else has it,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Chad Gable.
Speaker 1: Damn it, I had he was on that list. That
Speaker 1: icy title run is it's it's yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna like Minnesota, that's his home town. Like
Speaker 3: he's gonna win it at SummerSlam.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't think about that. Yeah, yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good one. Okay, I'm gonna do this because I just
Speaker 1: feel like this is bad luck for s Bubs not
Speaker 1: to pick her. He left right there I'm picking j
Speaker 1: C Jane. How does he not pick his girl? Ja
Speaker 1: C Jane?
Speaker 4: This girl strategy, This girl's being your.
Speaker 1: World champ by the end of the calendar year. Again,
Speaker 1: the rumor is either Alexa or j C. For Rea
Speaker 1: Summer Slim, I think they would have gone Chazy. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know where that Alexa thing came from. For David.
Speaker 4: Well, now, the.
Speaker 3: Rumor is that that like Alexa Chacy thing was gonna
Speaker 3: be the match at night of Champions.
Speaker 4: The r I could see it Summer Slim is like
Speaker 4: unknown what it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I could see alexat Night Champions. But Jac,
Speaker 1: they're definitely heating up. They're like in that group so far,
Speaker 1: they're still sticking with them. So I think Jasey's got
Speaker 1: a good upside. So yeah, I'm gonna stick with Jacy.
Speaker 1: Jane's there. Welcome to the Welcome to the squad over here,
Speaker 1: all right, David, first pick?
Speaker 2: All right, I am going to go with.
Speaker 1: One jobber is replaced or three normal ones to replace.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with miss Blake Monroe.
Speaker 1: Bro Okay, you think she's gonna have a good career.
Speaker 2: I I think I think that she is gonna have
Speaker 2: a good push. I don't need her to have a
Speaker 2: good career. I just need her to have a good next.
Speaker 1: Couple of months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see her filling in. Like again, Becky's done
Speaker 2: a lot of traveling. Stephanie vikires out. The women's division
Speaker 2: has been kind of decimated. They've been using her a
Speaker 2: lot on on other things. So it's a good time
Speaker 2: to bring in Blake Monroe.
Speaker 1: Okay, Blake Monroe's off the table. I hope you're right.
Speaker 1: She has a good career here. Best Bob's who you got.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Falling Falling up on my strategy
Speaker 3: because I think I have someone who who wrestles more
Speaker 3: of the than Jesse Jacy Jane.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Fallon Henley.
Speaker 1: Damn it, I had her. I think she might be
Speaker 1: win those titles too at surnay Man's Van so and
Speaker 1: that's stacking to be one of those they've given off
Speaker 1: a stay Man event. The two matches Paige and bree
Speaker 1: versus what the hell's our group name? Some firs JD,
Speaker 1: who's spending what's going what's going on here? Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pick her up because now I need to worry
Speaker 1: because now I have no more picks that I was
Speaker 1: really confident about. You guys got the ones that I
Speaker 1: really wanted. So, uh, sol Ruka gonna throw her up there.
Speaker 1: I think she's got a couple more defenses. I could
Speaker 1: see her just hold the title for a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: Even if she loses the title. I could see her
Speaker 1: go to money in the bank. I could see her
Speaker 1: do a rocket like world title win. I could see
Speaker 1: her putting a tag team. There's lots of things. I
Speaker 1: think they like Soul Ruka. Yeah, sure there's some. There's
Speaker 1: some iffness sometimes, but I don't think it's enough that
Speaker 1: like they're really worried about it yet. So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: taking Soul here and hopefully she just gives me some
Speaker 1: more ice title defenses for the rest of the year,
Speaker 1: or I'll drop her in the fall. So we'll see.
Speaker 4: So let's see.
Speaker 2: I am going to go with I'm gonna go with
Speaker 2: Tiffany Shredden Tiffy. Okay, Yeah, I was thinking it was
Speaker 2: between her and one other, and I don't have faith
Speaker 2: in the one other, So I'm gonna go with Tiffy.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, alright. S Pubs you're back up.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go with uh yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go with Ray Phoenix. He's got that that Triple A title.
Speaker 3: He's doing the open challenge gimmick, and so I feel
Speaker 3: like you could hold it. Like if you look at
Speaker 3: the history of the of the Triple A Cruiserweight title,
Speaker 3: the rains are like like six hundred days, a thousand.
Speaker 4: Days, like they just like give it to these guys
Speaker 4: and just let.
Speaker 3: Them hold it like forever. So I think it might
Speaker 3: be a good pick up here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think you'll get those match points, nothing
Speaker 1: like massive, But at this point we're picking for the spots, right.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I got one, two, three, four, five, six, eight,
Speaker 4: do I.
Speaker 1: Eight? I still need two more? Hey, okay, I'll put
Speaker 1: her in here. I believe she'll probably get a match
Speaker 1: with Summerslim. This is more for the fall, and I
Speaker 1: still think that title win is coming for the US.
Speaker 1: Tel Jay Gargill, welcome back to the draft. You're there.
Speaker 1: I think we all kind of cooled on you. No
Speaker 1: one picked her for.
Speaker 2: Wrestling, but she was on my list as as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the tiffy thing, like when she
Speaker 1: like a lot of people thought she's gonna win. I
Speaker 1: think that's just delayed. I think that was just the
Speaker 1: set up the Charlotte feud. I think she'll win that
Speaker 1: even if she's on Summer Slim like And the good
Speaker 1: thing is she's still like even if in six women
Speaker 1: tags just wash matchreses, she still does wrestle more often
Speaker 1: then some other people that might be on this list.
Speaker 1: So I'll get her there with the hopes of the
Speaker 1: Summer Slim Matress Charlotte and then at least just like
Speaker 1: a US title run and go from there. And I
Speaker 1: think also she gets the US title run, I'll be
Speaker 1: in gravy because I think she'll have that. They'll just
Speaker 1: run back with it an aw, I guess you're just
Speaker 1: keeping it for a year and them just like, okay,
Speaker 1: well just make it a big challenge. So Jade, welcome
Speaker 1: back to the squad. As Bobs or know, it's David's
Speaker 1: pick up.
Speaker 2: All right, This this is going to be a one
Speaker 2: of a big risk.
Speaker 3: I kind of want someone to take someone that I'm
Speaker 3: thinking of because I have a lot of options, and
Speaker 3: I need people to cut down my options on who
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 2: I do have a lot of options, So this one
Speaker 2: is going to be a big risk. I am going
Speaker 2: to take mister Bishop dwar slash Baron corbyt.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, I guess you get those points if they
Speaker 1: if he makes that return, right, So the Aaron slash
Speaker 1: Bishop damn. I didn't even think about him.
Speaker 4: He would probably just be Baron Corey.
Speaker 1: I think. So Okay, if it works, it's like the
Speaker 1: Dan Housing. If it works out, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: good pick, and he could be wrestling for a bit.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean he'd be replacing Dr mcintile. It's
Speaker 2: not getting points right now.
Speaker 1: Anyway, So yeah, if he doesn't come, then that's it's
Speaker 1: the exact same, right, You're not missing anything. So that's
Speaker 1: a good point. So all right, s bubs, what are
Speaker 1: you at now?
Speaker 4: As you have two more people and a shower? Okay,
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna take.
Speaker 3: Hm.
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna go with Manta's Ford.
Speaker 1: Damn it.
Speaker 2: He was on my list of the possibles Souse.
Speaker 3: He's doing the tag stuff, but they're still kind of
Speaker 3: giving the mini singles push where he'll wrestle singles matches occasionally.
Speaker 2: So he's definitely the star of that tag team for sure.
Speaker 1: Fuck, that was my line. I only need one more.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pick this guy. What the hell is
Speaker 1: Ethan Page up to you right now?
Speaker 3: He was on my list, so yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I just tell you what he's up to, but
Speaker 3: I thought about him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm not gonna pick him because I I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just feel like they go like we
Speaker 1: got the biz and we're good. Hmm.
Speaker 3: I'll say I have one, two, three people on my
Speaker 3: list that no one is proud of at all.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, I'm gonna practice what I preach. I
Speaker 1: feel like he wrestles a lot, and I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: This is the tenth pick, and I'm gonna go for
Speaker 1: This is just gonna be purely no matter unless it
Speaker 1: goes very well, this guy is likely gonna get dropped
Speaker 1: next draft. I'll just say that right now. David dropped them.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Matt Cardona because I'm gonna ride. I
Speaker 1: legitimately believe him and Dan Houson because like the Tag
Speaker 1: Tiles are perfect title for Dan Houson to win, right
Speaker 1: singles that might go I don't know Tag even for
Speaker 1: a month, like I could legitally see Summer Slim them
Speaker 1: doing a multi tag and that's where they give Helston.
Speaker 1: I come out like I gotta ride what I preach
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and again like you said, he's
Speaker 1: been winning lately, so I'm going with him, just with
Speaker 1: the other people I could pick. I feel like, okay, there,
Speaker 1: those pushes could come later they get me the single points,
Speaker 1: I legitmately believe in the now from my bank, I
Speaker 1: will know if he's winning the tag titles or not,
Speaker 1: because I think if he hasn't won it by September,
Speaker 1: then I could drop him, get rid of him. You know.
Speaker 2: So I I thought about promoting him to my main roster.
Speaker 1: So now that's I swooped in. I pulled the t
Speaker 1: k er fish off. I threw up the money. Macardon's like,
Speaker 1: I'm in, So yeah, well, welcome to the team. Macardon's.
Speaker 1: So I am all done with my my guys there.
Speaker 1: So David, all you have left to do replaced now
Speaker 1: is your job or all right?
Speaker 2: Nah? This this one is a hard one for me
Speaker 2: because there's a couple of people I'm just like they
Speaker 2: they are legitimate losers. Uh, but but.
Speaker 4: You need someone who's a loser who still loses. Who
Speaker 4: loses a lot.
Speaker 3: Is it works a lot because you can pick someone
Speaker 3: who loses and they don't wrestle that much.
Speaker 2: And and on that note, I am going to go
Speaker 2: with Austin theory and my jobber.
Speaker 1: That's a good pick. Yeah, that's a good one. You'll
Speaker 1: get you those points there. You go, all right, that's
Speaker 1: is now flor is yours with all your drops, so
Speaker 1: finish off your roster.
Speaker 3: I think I'm just gonna be safe and gonna take
Speaker 3: Laney Reid as my tense spot just to have both covered.
Speaker 3: I mean, it gets me double points if they're doing
Speaker 3: tag stuff. I had some other options that I can
Speaker 3: say now, Like I had Royce Keys as one of
Speaker 3: my my options.
Speaker 1: I did too. It's just I just don't know what
Speaker 1: they're doing with them.
Speaker 3: Like I just that rumor is that, like it's him
Speaker 3: versus Jacob at Summer Slam.
Speaker 1: I just don't buy it, like I'd be down for
Speaker 1: that match. I just I just feel like it's gonna
Speaker 1: be that thing where we heard like EO and Oscar
Speaker 1: and then like ah it's a SmackDown Summer Slack. I
Speaker 1: just can't buy that.
Speaker 4: Then who else I have.
Speaker 3: I had like priest Off just like he just he's
Speaker 3: also like just in tag team winning stuff with truth.
Speaker 4: And then the last one I had was just.
Speaker 3: Either Page or Bri. I don't know which one I
Speaker 3: really wanted to take. But I also feel like, once
Speaker 3: like they lose the titles, I don't really know what
Speaker 3: exactly they'd be like doing on TV.
Speaker 1: Every week, especially Page at least pre has the Bellows right,
Speaker 1: but Page, like, I don't know what's gonna happen after
Speaker 1: she loses those. I really don't know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and so I still have my jobber.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go back to, you know, my classic
Speaker 3: before Kit Wilson.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take j D McDonough.
Speaker 2: He was he was my other jobber choice, so I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna be losing a Saturd nice Man event.
Speaker 4: So that's some uh some p l E jobber points.
Speaker 2: It was between Austin Theory JD, and I was gonna
Speaker 2: coin flip between b Fab and Mechin for my job
Speaker 2: those too.
Speaker 3: Let's say be Fab and Mechin. They're they're undefeated since
Speaker 3: the Turning Heel. They're like five and oh or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, look at that there you go, so good things
Speaker 1: any of them? Okay, So the new list now s
Speaker 1: Bubbs has Eo Sky, Penta, Javon Evans, Carmela Hayes, Dan
Speaker 1: Housen and newly acquired Chad Gable found him Henry of Henley,
Speaker 1: not Henry, that's someone else, Ray Phoenix, montes Ford and
Speaker 1: Laney Reid uh So. And then his jobber is j
Speaker 1: D McDonough, and then my pigs are Rhea, Ripley, Rome,
Speaker 1: Ragns Brown, Breaker, Live, Morgan Trick, William Seth Brawn's. My
Speaker 1: new editions are j C. Jane soul, Ruka, Jay Cargill
Speaker 1: and Matt Cardona, and my jobber still remains as Russif
Speaker 1: and David's new rosters Cody Rhades, Obama, Punk Gunther, Jacob
Speaker 1: To Shott Flair Domastiro, and then his new editions are
Speaker 1: Blake Monroe, Tiffany Shradd and Baron Crome Corbin slash Bishop Dryer,
Speaker 1: whatever the hell's stupid name is Baron Corbyn. And then
Speaker 1: his new jobber is Awesome Theory. So yeah, we're going
Speaker 1: to SummerSlam and none.
Speaker 2: Of us have the current reigning champion.
Speaker 1: I thought one of us did because I looked up
Speaker 1: this morning, like, well, no one has Sammy, because I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: if I have Sammy, I gotta drop him. I get
Speaker 1: to drop him quick, and we don't. So that's funny
Speaker 1: where that shows up. There we are and we'll start there.
Speaker 1: We'll start talking about w and some SummerSlam and some
Speaker 1: rock them up. So obviously, last week Samuza won the
Speaker 1: WW Championship in a very shocking fashion, and now it
Speaker 1: seems like he could lose the w Championship this money
Speaker 1: in a very non fashion. It would be shocking more
Speaker 1: if he retained. There's just always a chance they got
Speaker 1: enough main events because none of us pick Brock. You
Speaker 1: could always have open Brock Maine event run at night, right,
Speaker 1: and then Roman and Seth another.
Speaker 4: But I mean that would be that would be if
Speaker 4: you drafted Brock.
Speaker 3: I can say, like that would be you'd get like
Speaker 3: twenty points off the main event, and then that's probably
Speaker 3: I mean, it could.
Speaker 4: Be his last match, so that could be only to
Speaker 4: and yeah, even before money.
Speaker 3: In the bank, I don't think you'd even wrestle against
Speaker 3: so you could just drop him after that.
Speaker 4: So someone could have picked him, I guess.
Speaker 1: Before they did this whole cemim punk or like the
Speaker 1: Cody versus samuon Raw thing, which again I don't care
Speaker 1: I people break it down, makes zero sense. It's a
Speaker 1: SmackDown title other than being Chicago, WI is it on SmackDown?
Speaker 1: I digress win the root. Like when the speculation was
Speaker 1: always Brock and win the title, Brock was definitely in
Speaker 1: my sphere of like, well, if he's gonna win the
Speaker 1: title and work open the main event, I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 1: add him for those two boosts, right, But it looks
Speaker 1: like that's not the case. We'll circle back to blocking
Speaker 1: open a second. But yeah, Sammy won the title on
Speaker 1: SmackDown J and Cody first Cody one, So it looks
Speaker 1: like what Cody's gonna win In my opinion, it's his
Speaker 1: fourth rain now, right? Is it fourth?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: So be fourth?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting them ready to overtake Seena. But what
Speaker 1: are you thinking about all this with the prevailing theory
Speaker 1: that Cody's gonna beat Sammy's ain and then seam Punk's
Speaker 1: gonna show up on Raw do the stare down point
Speaker 1: at the imaginary Summer Slam sign and that's what's going
Speaker 1: Do you think that's happening. Do you like that? And
Speaker 1: if not?
Speaker 4: I think I think there's two routes.
Speaker 3: I think, honestly, the one route is what you said,
Speaker 3: like Cody wins, he beats Sammy, Punk comes out, stare
Speaker 3: down like yeah, like you said, point at the imaginary
Speaker 3: Summer Slam sign, and then that's gonna.
Speaker 4: Be the match.
Speaker 3: But then the other option I have is like if
Speaker 3: Punk comes out, like say, like to open the show,
Speaker 3: like they don't want to get the himpunk chance the
Speaker 3: whole night, Like how is that? Like if he let's say,
Speaker 3: the show starts and he comes out and he does
Speaker 3: a promo of like I want the title so and
Speaker 3: so like I was gone for this reason or whatever,
Speaker 3: like would that change? Like to me, that would change
Speaker 3: Like now I think Sammy has like some chance of
Speaker 3: retaining of like maybe not Punk like screwing Cody, but
Speaker 3: just to be like like it wouldn't be a certain
Speaker 3: to me for some reason, like if Punk came out
Speaker 3: of the start of the show, I think what.
Speaker 1: You could do in that sense that not that he
Speaker 1: screws Cody or Sammy, but you could do that and
Speaker 1: be like, oh and I just sucked so and so
Speaker 1: and I get a title match, and he could be
Speaker 1: on commentary during the match, and that's how you get
Speaker 1: the Snana one way or another. If that's the only
Speaker 1: way Sammy could win. It's like, let's say Cody gets
Speaker 1: in his face vice versa. Seampunk accidentally does something. I
Speaker 1: do think it is the former where it's just Cody
Speaker 1: beats It is the meme of the John Cena ray thing,
Speaker 1: but and that was night off, so not even the
Speaker 1: same week. But I think that's how you could do it.
Speaker 1: Seampunk comes home, but I think they want that Cody wins,
Speaker 1: and then crowd might be not happy pop for seeing Punk.
Speaker 1: And then again, I don't know what the fuck they're
Speaker 1: doing to Cody again. But he's not gonna be a heal.
Speaker 1: They're not. They're just gonna set him up to be
Speaker 1: booed and like disliked. It's like, man, he's getting a
Speaker 1: very similar to Scena, like a very bad babyface run
Speaker 1: more mid scene, beginning of scene, what's fine. It seems
Speaker 1: like character changes kind of sunk them. But they're just
Speaker 1: putting Cody in these John Cena Randy this like they're
Speaker 1: putting in some really bad spots that I don't know
Speaker 1: how he's you know, he says, like, oh, it's not
Speaker 1: a home game. They're not giving you lots of home
Speaker 1: games anymore, brother, Like they're at least the international markets
Speaker 1: are still. But what do you think though, is the
Speaker 1: if you have to say, what's gonna happen? Those are
Speaker 1: two scenarios s bubs? What is the what's the s
Speaker 1: bub select? What's the end of Monday? What's happening?
Speaker 3: I'd say more likely is the like punk at the
Speaker 3: end of the show pop, I feel it is the
Speaker 3: more likely.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you this aus stay the same after too.
Speaker 1: Did you like the co or the Sammy Windy? You
Speaker 1: like Cody dropping it? How do you feel about this
Speaker 1: if like, obviously that's been the hubblue right, if Sammy wins,
Speaker 1: he's gonna lose it within you know, a week, in
Speaker 1: a day or whatever. How do you feel about that scenario?
Speaker 4: It's just like weird, I guess, like like it feels
Speaker 4: like I don't know, like why did they even do
Speaker 4: it in the first place? Seems like like I get
Speaker 4: why if it's just.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, they want to give it to Sammy to
Speaker 3: say he had it, But at the same time, it's
Speaker 3: just weird, Like just to Cody to win it back
Speaker 3: a week later, like doesn't really do anything for anyone.
Speaker 4: I liked the match, like, I thought the match was
Speaker 4: really good. Yeah, but it just seems weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, day, what do you feel about this whole scenario
Speaker 1: about Sammy? Wouldn't it possibly lose until a week and
Speaker 1: then yeah, what do you predict happening in the next
Speaker 1: twenty four hours? I guess so.
Speaker 2: I mean, mister easy to find, hard to beat got
Speaker 2: beat with a roll up. So that's that. That was
Speaker 2: a little bit shocking, you know it. I think the
Speaker 2: way the match ended bothers me more than the Sammy win.
Speaker 2: Like if Cody had hit going thro where they crossroads
Speaker 2: and then popped up and did like his little celebration
Speaker 2: power up thing and then next thing, you know, bam
Speaker 2: houl of a kick out of nowhere and that's how
Speaker 2: he eats the pin. I would have been fine with that,
Speaker 2: like catch him off guard.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 2: The roll up just seemed, I don't know, like the
Speaker 2: anti climactic for that level of the win. You know,
Speaker 2: Sammy has come out and said that no matter how
Speaker 2: long Key holds the title, no one can take away
Speaker 2: from him. That he was w W champion, which further
Speaker 2: solidified You're, yeah, they haven't changed or updated any of
Speaker 2: the match graphics ahead of Summer Slam, so you know
Speaker 2: they're like, look, we're not even gonna waste our time
Speaker 2: with the department like they did AI match graphics after
Speaker 2: the Queen of the Ring win, and you're not getting anything.
Speaker 2: So I have a feeling he's not gonna hold it long.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to drop it immediately
Speaker 2: or he's gonna drop it soon, but I don't see
Speaker 2: him as the person that is going to main event SummerSlam,
Speaker 2: so it will be lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't understand this at all. Now I have to,
Speaker 1: you know, classic, let it play out. We'll see because
Speaker 1: this field, okay, treblash this, you know, plans change. This
Speaker 1: seems eerily similar to the Darby win where we always
Speaker 1: felt like, hey, Darby's gonna win the title one day, Sammy.
Speaker 1: I could also say that I was maybe on the
Speaker 1: band winging now that maybe he wouldn't win the title.
Speaker 1: I thought we were down that drain where it's like
Speaker 1: it might be too late for him, but I still
Speaker 1: could believe. And what people are pitching here it's the
Speaker 1: mcfoley s type of run. Right, mcfolly won and only
Speaker 1: held it for three weeks's first time. And then I
Speaker 1: think it's like he has he held the tell for
Speaker 1: like a total like fifty four or seven days, like
Speaker 1: he never had a big title run. It was just
Speaker 1: it was the moment, right, which that's what you got
Speaker 1: to Sammy. You got the moment. I think for me,
Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, if you want to do that,
Speaker 1: if you go, hey, Sammy's been working hard. We want
Speaker 1: to get Samy in this moment despite triple h in
Speaker 1: that video, it looks like he wants to do anything
Speaker 1: but give stand in that moment.
Speaker 3: But still so I said, someone made the call to
Speaker 3: give him the title, and that's why you're just putting
Speaker 3: it back on.
Speaker 1: Congrats you're good, so but still give them Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: what do you use that moment for? And that's where
Speaker 1: the Darby thing they spanned a bunch of matches and
Speaker 1: it was just okay, bad guy. I'm Jeff, I don't
Speaker 1: understand what the moment is for Cody just beating him.
Speaker 1: I would understand even goother because you might go, Okay,
Speaker 1: you don't really want Cody or going through to beat
Speaker 1: Cody yet so hot, and this is what I always
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna happen. I know Cody was losing
Speaker 1: that match. I just didn't know to who I would
Speaker 1: have predicted gun through, but I just and that's the
Speaker 1: thing I was wrong about too. I thought Cody wouldn't
Speaker 1: be taking the pin. I thought it'd be goother pinning Sammy.
Speaker 1: And that's so you go there, And for me, I'm
Speaker 1: in this camp if I don't know what their plans
Speaker 1: are for Mania, but I would just rather like Sammy
Speaker 1: win it, and even like Christian, well Christian actually only
Speaker 1: had it for like a few days, but then eventually
Speaker 1: at one point he beat Randy and held it for
Speaker 1: a month. Even if it was like, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: him beat that like Cody, and that's gonna be the
Speaker 1: SummerSlam match, because if they don't believe that's the main event.
Speaker 1: You got Ova on Brock and Hell in the l
Speaker 1: and you got Roman Seth, you got both nights covered,
Speaker 1: or even have the fucking women that can easily go
Speaker 1: main event show, right. So it's just like there's so
Speaker 1: many options you could have easily done. Cody and Sammy
Speaker 1: at SummerSlam the rematch, and that's what I think I
Speaker 1: would prefer. I have not that I have no interest,
Speaker 1: but I am just very dumb founded of doing Roman
Speaker 1: and Seth at Maydia. That one I under at summertime.
Speaker 1: I understand that one more it's never worked out when
Speaker 1: they planned it, and let's just do it. Sure. But
Speaker 1: Cody and Punk, to me is that's like a that's
Speaker 1: a Manium main event right there. And the weird thing
Speaker 1: is it's like, Okay, the supposed plans right now, which
Speaker 1: change all the time, is like, hey, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Roman Oba right unless the Rock comes out.
Speaker 3: So I guess maybe some recent picks of the rock
Speaker 3: where he's looking, he's looking, he's looking GV big again,
Speaker 3: you know, he's getting ready.
Speaker 1: For maybe and maybe that's the thing that maybe, oh
Speaker 1: the reason they're doing that is because hey, if Rock
Speaker 1: does come in, I guarantee you if they if they like,
Speaker 1: if they have the option to get Rock, they will
Speaker 1: get him because they will help business. Right, maybe it
Speaker 1: is Oba and Cody. So maybe that's why they're not
Speaker 1: doing punkin Cody there, because they go, well, that's kind
Speaker 1: of like a backup plan. We don't know for sure
Speaker 1: we want to leave Cody open, but if not, I
Speaker 1: just feel like it's gonna suck if Oba is versing
Speaker 1: Roman and they kind of blew Cody and Punk here,
Speaker 1: unless it's a long game of Cody actually turning heel
Speaker 1: and there's a big chase. But I don't know, so
Speaker 1: I need to see it all play out. But as
Speaker 1: of right now, I don't love the and it's not
Speaker 1: even Sammy holding it for a week. That's fine. He
Speaker 1: does get to say, yeah, I was w Champ, but
Speaker 1: it's just what is it achieved? Just to get it
Speaker 1: right back on Cody, It just was it was a
Speaker 1: literal for the night moment and I don't know, just
Speaker 1: let him hold the summer Simon do something, even though
Speaker 1: it was him and Gunther makes more sense than Cody
Speaker 1: and Punk is non title. I don't know. It's tough
Speaker 1: because they've The weird thing is they kept setting Cody
Speaker 1: and Punk up very title heavy. If like, well someone's
Speaker 1: gonna take a shot, you're take it down. It's like
Speaker 1: Cody's lost the title like three times now. It's not
Speaker 1: like a big deal on that, Like you don't even
Speaker 1: need it for the title anymore. Before if it was
Speaker 1: Cody not losing, or even if he lost, a SNA
Speaker 1: who like cheated was a bad guy. Even then you
Speaker 1: give an like, well, yeah Cody lost, but like a
Speaker 1: bunch of people against him, no one's really beat him clean.
Speaker 1: Sammy still beat him clean. That was clean. He didn't
Speaker 1: like there's nobody cues the match, and even like David said,
Speaker 1: even if it's like a quick pop like win, it
Speaker 1: still was. He didn't low blow him, he didn't hit
Speaker 1: him well weapon which would be legal. He didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: He rolled them up. He beat him clean. So the
Speaker 1: rosebud of Cody losing his first title and losing clean
Speaker 1: and WV since he's in back is gone. So what
Speaker 1: is punk and Cody like? There's the balloons for Samy's like,
Speaker 1: what is Pody like really even about at this point?
Speaker 1: That's where I'd be more interested if it was non
Speaker 1: title and then make it personal, right, But so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Cody's just getting the title back, and I
Speaker 1: think they're going to continue to turn people against him,
Speaker 1: and unless it's their idea, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: hell they're doing. So forget that going on. I guess
Speaker 1: that was inform me that uh, Gunther. The idea is
Speaker 1: Nick all this right, Yeah, totally happen. That's interesting because
Speaker 1: they've been that, like they've been like teasing all this
Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, that'd be fun. I wonder if
Speaker 1: they make a put on his career on the line,
Speaker 1: you know, say yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like they definitely could, like I mean, because
Speaker 3: that would be like, I mean, he could just still
Speaker 3: go back to being the GM I guess, I mean
Speaker 3: loses his his wrestling career. It's not like, yes, the
Speaker 3: it's not like unless they do, like he leaves w
Speaker 3: or something and then just like works backstage or something.
Speaker 3: But I mean I definitely feel like, yeah, he could
Speaker 3: put his career.
Speaker 4: I mean, he hasn't wrestled since like joining w W,
Speaker 4: Like his last match was a few months before that.
Speaker 1: And I forgot to mention too. The reason we're doing
Speaker 1: some Summer Slim predictions is because I think likely we
Speaker 1: might do. I don't know if there'll be a gimmick
Speaker 1: till the Summer Slam weekend because we'll have Summer Slam
Speaker 1: and Redemption to cover, and then we'll have Summertime Night
Speaker 1: one to night too, so we kind of got the double,
Speaker 1: so we'll see we got a gmode as well doing there,
Speaker 1: so we might just be waiting till the August first
Speaker 1: and second and figuring that out to do though, So
Speaker 1: that's why we're doing some predictions now, David, is any
Speaker 1: interest in Guther nick All this? And if so, uh,
Speaker 1: there's I'm not gonna ask you who wins. That's that's it.
Speaker 1: Very interested in match at least.
Speaker 2: Yes, only for nick All this to get like that
Speaker 2: that moment on the ww stage. Like, I've liked the
Speaker 2: guy since he was in TNA. He did great job
Speaker 2: in in wa and things like that. You know it.
Speaker 2: He is very forgotten about in mainstream wrestling for his
Speaker 2: contributions over the last fifteen years or so. So to
Speaker 2: at least have him get to walk out in the
Speaker 2: gear one time on on that big stage would be
Speaker 2: pretty awesome. I mean, Gunther's gonna choke him out, but still.
Speaker 1: Would it be fine if like beats him in like
Speaker 1: thirty seconds that count, if he just gets in there
Speaker 1: and then boom choking.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see it being a thirty second
Speaker 2: beat down ready, And I could see it being a
Speaker 2: situation though where they have like you know, a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes, like good five minutes back and forth before
Speaker 2: Gunther just absolutely decimates him at that point and you know,
Speaker 2: takes the handcuffs off and you know goes all super
Speaker 2: Saiyan and just watch the floor with him.
Speaker 1: At that point, this was on there, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be on there anymore. They had like
Speaker 1: obviously this is just like a rumored one from Dave
Speaker 1: Melts or so I'm just going off of that and
Speaker 1: then anything that's on here, we'll talk it. But Page
Speaker 1: and Brie versus found and Laney, I think that's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen on me and emit.
Speaker 3: It seems like they moved it up unless this is
Speaker 3: like unless the main event is like the the Nicky Vella.
Speaker 1: Return, yea, yeah, whether it's main event or that, I
Speaker 1: think Page and Brie are done. In my opinion. I
Speaker 1: think he put on found Lan Laney and go from there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll push back there supposedly gun there or sorry,
Speaker 1: Trick Williams versus Carmelo Hayes. That's fun to run back,
Speaker 1: but I just get I'm not watching weekly. Why is
Speaker 1: why like Carmel is still a face right? And why
Speaker 1: is Trick not going up against like he just fought Ricky,
Speaker 1: who's the heel. I know that feels a little odd
Speaker 1: to me. I know the match they have history sing
Speaker 1: and playoff from that, but I don't know why they
Speaker 1: I guess they want Trick with a worker, but still
Speaker 1: there's other heel workers out there, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just would assume Trick wins because I don't think
Speaker 1: that's a good spot for Carmelo either, because Trick is
Speaker 1: just so popular right now. I don't know, unless Hayes
Speaker 1: a start of heel maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like Trick is like kind of like a tweeter,
Speaker 3: Like it's like one of those like he's not like evil,
Speaker 3: but he's not like a like a good guy, especially
Speaker 3: like he is like like he's like cheating and stuff
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just an odd fit. I'm my my pitches.
Speaker 1: They turn Carmelo. Let's I say Carmelo is better as
Speaker 1: a heel anyways. I don't think Bafy's Carmelo is like
Speaker 1: the best route, but I would just say Trick would
Speaker 1: win that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, i'd have to see like what
Speaker 3: the build to it, but I would probably say Trick winning.
Speaker 4: I mean they could put it if they do want
Speaker 4: to make like yeah, I don't know, they could do
Speaker 4: something with it.
Speaker 3: The last match that they had, like they had a
Speaker 3: match on SmackDown which was really good, like better than
Speaker 3: their NXT matches. So on Summer's time, it could be
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave, I see this going on.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's something that I'm not excited for.
Speaker 2: Like I said, while Trick has been playing the in
Speaker 2: between a role, I mean, there's nothing baby face about
Speaker 2: him other than his entrance, like uh yeah, like he
Speaker 2: he's just he's there for the vibes. He's there to
Speaker 2: get the crowd. I think that, you know, they they'll
Speaker 2: have a great match. Of course, they have great chemistry together,
Speaker 2: but other than that, it's not anything that I'm just like, man,
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see this match. Oh, I hope
Speaker 2: that Carmelo takes the title off him. I think if
Speaker 2: Carmelo does beat him for the title, then it's just
Speaker 2: going to be a back and forth for a couple
Speaker 2: of months.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, so we'll see how that goes down
Speaker 1: with that ends up being the match. Again, these are
Speaker 1: more rumor ones, just you know, off the uh the
Speaker 1: stay tuned in the future weeks right now, listen, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: Jay Cargo Austin's a matchly been Billin tour as well,
Speaker 1: so I'd be interested to see it. I think Jade's
Speaker 1: had some good outings since WrestleMania now, so it's like,
Speaker 1: I think, a bit more trustworthy. I still think there's
Speaker 1: a chance in between now and then they could get
Speaker 1: the US title on one of these ladies, because I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm up two minds, right. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I just don't believe they're gonna book a match that
Speaker 1: has no title for the women, but obviously Jay did
Speaker 1: that a couple of years ago with Naomi right at WrestleMania,
Speaker 1: so it's possible, And especially it does help. If Riha
Speaker 1: is heard and they're not gonna have a WB title match,
Speaker 1: then you kind of have a spot open.
Speaker 4: I mean, unless like they do, like they vacate Rhea
Speaker 4: and then they make this for like the on Sido.
Speaker 1: I guess, so in that case, I think Charlotte Flair
Speaker 1: is getting the getting the win there, I think, But
Speaker 1: either way, I think Charlotte's getting win and I'm intrigued
Speaker 1: by this match. Jade matches are always used. You don't
Speaker 1: know whe you're gonna get. You get something really fun,
Speaker 1: or you could get kind of a very clunky. I
Speaker 1: won't say car wreck because that's too that's too harsh.
Speaker 1: It's say but just a clunky. That was fine two
Speaker 1: point five a five. But all I would say, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: no matter what, even if there's a title on the line,
Speaker 1: will win that match. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, are especially like
Speaker 4: this could be like a series of matches too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I think if this is Charlotte's first
Speaker 2: major match after the death of her little eight year
Speaker 2: old super fan that they've been promoting and things like that,
Speaker 2: they're gonna give her that win. They're going to give
Speaker 2: her that celebration. She's coming out in some custom ring
Speaker 2: gear that's an inspiration to it. She's gonna be huge
Speaker 2: baby face in that moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone look at her her Twitter. There's a go
Speaker 1: fund me there. Very good story, very very awful, tragic situations.
Speaker 1: That's that's a bumper there. So I guess you're right there.
Speaker 1: That could play into a little there. And then we
Speaker 1: had this announced, which you know, just funny how keen
Speaker 1: the ring works. But that's okay, won King of the
Speaker 1: Ring Beach. Oh who they're gonna challenge? Well, I guess
Speaker 1: because we were all like, well, Oba can't win because
Speaker 1: that means he has to tell match, you know, summertime
Speaker 1: right on raw, I'm gonna forego my Chaluche. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's gone. We got Rock and Ova helm Cell. I
Speaker 1: think at least the Cell at again. I have no
Speaker 1: interest in Brock Lezar. If you asked me, that's the
Speaker 1: default answer, but I I have to watch him. The
Speaker 1: Cell can at least maybe add some stuff to it.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get the classic two to
Speaker 1: three minute Brock match of supplexes back and forth and
Speaker 1: then be it. I think we'd get some brutality, hopefully
Speaker 1: some fun spots. I think we could, especially it's Brock's
Speaker 1: last match. I actually do think we get some blood.
Speaker 1: I think they might let Brock, they might let him
Speaker 1: run the blade. I could be wrong on that, but
Speaker 1: like he's done it before, and he's also gut didn't care,
Speaker 1: and I think if he was going out, he'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna believe my last one. Like we're gonna make
Speaker 1: this a big deal. I think off the OVA wins,
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a chance this could be
Speaker 1: really good. But I also think there's a chance it
Speaker 1: could be really monotonous and just kind of yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a chance where like this match
Speaker 3: is like forty five minutes long, where like OVA is
Speaker 3: like falling down and Bronc is just.
Speaker 4: Like punching it ye, like walking around the outside of this.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna take place over for TRIPLEH and
Speaker 1: Shawn Michaels is the worst Helm of all time, which
Speaker 1: I'm a big defender up It's funny to be posted
Speaker 1: that on their YouTube like a couple of months ago
Speaker 1: or weeks ago, and everyone was just relitigating how bad
Speaker 1: it was. I didn't watch it. I did see it
Speaker 1: was fifty four minutes. I was like, I need I
Speaker 1: still think one time, if we ever we never have
Speaker 1: slow stuff, I would still love to do like a
Speaker 1: watch long time.
Speaker 3: Because I was trying to think, like I was trying
Speaker 3: to make a list on on Dropkick of like, where
Speaker 3: are the matches we like mentioned the most on I
Speaker 3: was trying to think because honestly, the first two I
Speaker 3: added was it was Edgeress Randy or and last man
Speaker 3: Standing in Edgeress Randy Or and Greatest match of all
Speaker 3: time man, So I was I was trying to think
Speaker 3: what would be other matches that's definitely one the Shawn
Speaker 3: michaels Uh.
Speaker 4: I was trying to think other matches we like always
Speaker 4: bring up for like.
Speaker 1: I should try to set up I'll see this here
Speaker 1: what we got planned. But maybe one time in the
Speaker 1: future for extra life, if we said where the boys
Speaker 1: gotta go eat and we can make that a segment where,
Speaker 1: because that'd be the perfect time where we time to
Speaker 1: kill and we just sit down and watch one of
Speaker 1: those long ass mats and just say and then the
Speaker 1: boys can join too if they want to. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that those are two definitely those are two good ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Edge and Randy and then yeah, yeah, I gotta start
Speaker 1: thinking of but yeah, seen Triple H and Sean is
Speaker 1: one that's just you know, I'm a defender, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to watch and then people be scared of it. Sore. Yes,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on undertakerr daughter wanted to fall
Speaker 1: in her parents' footsteps. Well, she's gonna be Triple A
Speaker 1: women's champ in like six years. So books, it's all
Speaker 1: like again, hopefully she trains well. She's got two good
Speaker 1: worker parents. As far as Michell mcoo was a good worker,
Speaker 1: Taker was a good work and a good gimmick. But
Speaker 1: again that doesn't mean anything, right, Rock's daughter gone to
Speaker 1: wrestling him cheese out right, So it's obviously, like they
Speaker 1: always say, it gets you in the door. Look at
Speaker 1: the legacy. You got Ted d b. Austin one side,
Speaker 1: Cody Rose another face, the company guy who almost went
Speaker 1: to prison, who's sending videos of himself arrested and and
Speaker 1: watching the Titan drum. Right, So just like Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Snooker's kid ended up being what the cameraman that did
Speaker 2: touch Undertaker?
Speaker 1: And he was what hell was his name? He was
Speaker 1: part of Deus and Domino. I can't remember which one
Speaker 1: he was, but yeah, and then you got to think.
Speaker 4: Because he's just he's on the bloodline family tree, I'm
Speaker 4: pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Great. So again, it is a foot in the door.
Speaker 1: But if you don't love it, if you suck, it's
Speaker 1: gonna go away eventually. Right, So hopefully she's good and
Speaker 1: everything like that, And I think I feel like in
Speaker 1: that situation, let's say it does happen, she would in
Speaker 1: lots of situations go why don't they have their their
Speaker 1: family's name. I think she actually would be better not
Speaker 1: to take her dad's name because the I think there's
Speaker 1: tons of expectations for her to do like the Dead Woman.
Speaker 4: I feel like she would just not do the like.
Speaker 1: Take a cool's name like that's I think that's the
Speaker 1: better route, like unless she really if that's her pitch
Speaker 1: like that, I really want to carry on the gimmick
Speaker 1: and I want to do the thunderbolts in the eyes,
Speaker 1: then sure, I guess I just think they're that that's
Speaker 1: much tougher. That's for anybody, not even if you're just her,
Speaker 1: Like fucking look at do you know moa is s pubs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a guy that set up to be the
Speaker 1: next Undertaker, and then literally they were planning a Summer
Speaker 1: Slam match. Undertaker got back to TV. They're like, hey's
Speaker 1: who you're working at SummerSlam. He said, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that.
Speaker 4: Brother.
Speaker 1: The next night they had him Loser of raymis cerial.
Speaker 1: They sent him back to ov W and repackaged and
Speaker 1: was Kevin Thorne literally Undertaker. And I remember because I
Speaker 1: was still younger. As a kid, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for more.
Speaker 3: Until I see people saying that's like as a kid,
Speaker 3: I thought like, Mordecaile is gonna be like the greatest
Speaker 3: thing of all the time I seen like the vignettes
Speaker 3: is what I said.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was Undertaker e c W vignettes, He's coming
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff when they were doing the
Speaker 2: big red launch of v c W and then yeah,
Speaker 2: no Undertaker ship. That ship damn was like yo.
Speaker 1: When I was younger, but at that point I still
Speaker 1: knew it was scripted. So I remember when he wants
Speaker 1: to rate on SmackDown, I was like, what like I
Speaker 1: when as a kid, I was like, he's been on
Speaker 1: a roll. They're like like, what's going on here? And
Speaker 1: then he was just gone. He was just going. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's when like, oh, I feel like, oh
Speaker 1: three to I think all three was the time I
Speaker 1: started getting the dirt sheets because when Undertaking this gone
Speaker 1: sound dumb, but when Undertaker got buried alive by Vince
Speaker 1: McMahon and O three a Survivor series and they had
Speaker 1: cane to it, and I Undertaker was my guy. The
Speaker 1: character is still my guy. I was all in the
Speaker 1: dirt sheets of like what they doing whereas they're coming back.
Speaker 1: I like, I remember reading Paul Baer was coming back,
Speaker 1: so o three was like my time. I was starting
Speaker 1: to get into it, so oh far. I was like
Speaker 1: starting to smart enough more. And it's like, why is
Speaker 1: Mornicai losing a ray? And then he was just gone.
Speaker 1: And then when Kevin Thorne popped up in seven, it's like,
Speaker 1: this guy looks like Marka and he had like a
Speaker 1: living vampire gimmick and he hits Jelly Martinez with him,
Speaker 1: who was always like she was dressed very sexy and
Speaker 1: she wore this big push up brawn and they got
Speaker 1: blood in her bosoms or her boode like covered in EACW.
Speaker 1: That that would be a watch stream along itself too,
Speaker 1: is watching like a couple of those old ECW episodes,
Speaker 1: because those are fever dreams, like Sam and versus the Zombie.
Speaker 1: Some bad shit's going on there somehow seeing Punk fucking
Speaker 1: survived all that. It's crazy that he did. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I digress. We're talk about hellme cell. Oh
Speaker 1: it just wins, right, oh wins yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is it's a third match, like he's
Speaker 3: already lost the Like, yeah, it's like over just wins.
Speaker 4: To me, it's more interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how long this match goes? I mean cause it's
Speaker 3: like if you'l a hell in the Cell, It's like
Speaker 3: you hostly want it to be like this epic long match,
Speaker 3: but at the same time, like you can make an
Speaker 3: epic and not have it be forty minutes, like can
Speaker 3: do a can do a twenty minute hell in a Cell?
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, exactly just make it. Just make it
Speaker 1: a car crash one just that they're slamming each other's
Speaker 1: steps everything very fast. We don't need the Oben Brock
Speaker 1: selling for twenty minutes and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or just like break the cell and like fight out.
Speaker 2: I want them breaking, breaking through, break through one wall,
Speaker 2: and then break back through another wall. Like I want
Speaker 2: this to be a full law on, you know, Biggie style,
Speaker 2: big sweaty man slapping meat like I I just I
Speaker 2: just need you guys to just go hard for like
Speaker 2: ten minutes and that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're on this weird path.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 1: Sky won the The Queen of the Ring. I actually
Speaker 1: did not watch that match. I missed the first two
Speaker 1: and I still gotta go back, Well, I saw the cage.
Speaker 1: I missed that one. No, I missed I missed them
Speaker 1: both because I still don't watch open Jane. I've just
Speaker 1: heard don't watch it, so I'm not concerning myself that
Speaker 1: I heard. This match was like I've seen mixed things
Speaker 1: like it was good to like, all right, this is
Speaker 1: the case. We'd heard before that they were gonna do
Speaker 1: more living Stephanie, and it seems like whatever Stephanie's got
Speaker 1: going on that injuries worse. So we got her.
Speaker 4: It's like Visish is now as well.
Speaker 3: I think, like Brian Alvus said, like she's supposedly good,
Speaker 3: but it's like Visas is now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's happening in both companies right now. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot who someone said that. It's like it's
Speaker 3: the worst it's ever been right now for the Visa
Speaker 3: is one.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so yeah, we got this again. Like I'll
Speaker 1: say this, it lived more than loses. I'm being hyperbolic.
Speaker 1: One of the worst title run, I'll say of the
Speaker 1: twenty two thousands, one of the worst title runs ever
Speaker 1: for a world title men or women when at WrestleMania
Speaker 1: really do nothing, sit around Backstak said, what segments, interviews
Speaker 1: goes and when the queen the ring loses it, lose it.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think she is. I think they're
Speaker 1: going to keep her. But man sins WrestleMania because we
Speaker 1: remember that before WrestleMania, there's so many people. There's reports about, oh,
Speaker 1: they want to give her a big push right at
Speaker 1: Wrestumey Live like they want us Cementer. And you look
Speaker 1: at something where she was already established. But you look
Speaker 1: at something like when we have Ripley beat Charlotte after
Speaker 1: that megastar like all just going up stalks. I thought
Speaker 1: that's what they wanted to do for Live. I think
Speaker 1: that's what they're trying for.
Speaker 3: The Live thing always seemed like some people really wanted that,
Speaker 3: and then some people didn't really care.
Speaker 1: And that's where it feels like the people now that
Speaker 1: are like booking her charges like eh, Liz like, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people in line that feel away
Speaker 1: about Live that she's just like, uh like lots of
Speaker 1: steps down right, I don't necessarily feel lots of steps.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's in the same stress is like
Speaker 1: Rhea or Charlotte when or even Becky right when she's
Speaker 1: at her best, but I think she's assault like B.
Speaker 1: I don't want to care what the B plus player thing,
Speaker 1: but like in the tier ranking, she's there. She can
Speaker 1: be an A on some nights, but she's mostly a B.
Speaker 1: But I thought, Okay, this title run, maybe they're gonna
Speaker 1: get her to that A. They didn't. I feel like
Speaker 1: if she loses this, I feel almost at any point
Speaker 1: she loses this title, this didn't really do much for her.
Speaker 1: So I don't know where I am. I think Live
Speaker 1: will win it, but I I don't with.
Speaker 4: With Roxane, you know, putting EO's foot on the ropes
Speaker 4: in the match.
Speaker 1: No, I think it's possible. I'm I'm like a sixty
Speaker 1: to forty for Live winning. I also just think EO
Speaker 1: could win because I feel like lots of times in
Speaker 1: both companies when it's like we didn't like that last
Speaker 1: person as Champier didn't work out, put on someone that
Speaker 1: we know can carry. Look at EO, EO, someone you
Speaker 1: know can carry, So just go to try and true methods.
Speaker 1: So I'm a little Yeah, that's tough. I'll say Live
Speaker 1: for now, but I'm not feeling good now. I think
Speaker 1: I've dropped to a fifty five. But yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know what about you, David, I'm I'm.
Speaker 2: Hoping that EO wins. I'm nothing. Nothing about this lived
Speaker 2: title run has just been like, oh my god, this
Speaker 2: is amazing. They're doing great stories or doing great character work,
Speaker 2: none of that. It's just been there. I could see
Speaker 2: a fun thing where, you know, if they continue to
Speaker 2: have if they continue to have rio with the title
Speaker 2: and then EO Whin's the other title? You know, they
Speaker 2: they have the good coming back, have fun, and then
Speaker 2: they could have just like a nice little friendly against
Speaker 2: each other later on, Like there's so much more you
Speaker 2: could do with that, And I think there's so much
Speaker 2: more you could do with EO all in the title.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if they would go that route
Speaker 2: because they seem to have this incredible faith and live
Speaker 2: in her care to work that is more than the
Speaker 2: fate that I have in it.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, how do you how do you
Speaker 1: see it going down?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say I'm Warren Trutt's side of it could
Speaker 3: go kind of either way, depending on, like, you know,
Speaker 3: what the story is, because honestly think with like the
Speaker 3: rock Sand Turn and stuff like that, like the turns
Speaker 3: always are like always take way longer than like people think,
Speaker 3: like people will be like fantasy fucking something that happens
Speaker 3: like a year later. So for I mean, it could
Speaker 3: even be like they do like the tease of the
Speaker 3: turn at SummerSlam, like she she's about to do something
Speaker 3: and then doesn't do it and then live retained.
Speaker 4: So if I had to, like pick a winner, I
Speaker 4: would say live for now.
Speaker 3: But like I said, like going up to it, they're
Speaker 3: like heavily teasing rock Sand then I could SEEO winning.
Speaker 1: Hmm, okay, so we got so with Rhea we don't
Speaker 1: like And this is what's interesting, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: nobody scoops wise, they has even been on top of
Speaker 1: this at all.
Speaker 4: Right, like oh there there's been no reports about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like oh zam a I or oh, like
Speaker 1: they're hoping that he'll like there's nothing, just like she's
Speaker 1: gone injured, we'll figure it out if she's back. I
Speaker 1: feel like they're just gonna do her and JC because
Speaker 1: if Charlotte is busy, unless they could always do I
Speaker 1: could see them doing Charlotte, Jade and Rhea. If I
Speaker 1: it's like the MGF thing where Ria is like good
Speaker 1: to go, but not one hundred percent, and that could
Speaker 1: cover her injury wise, and Ria still get to win,
Speaker 1: or same thing, they could take it off her. So
Speaker 1: I guess this is tough for me to predict right now.
Speaker 1: And again, same thing. If Rihea is like, let's say
Speaker 1: somewhat injured, but she thinks she can do the match,
Speaker 1: maybe it's like the Stephanie thing arrest Me, where she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I can drop it to JC or somebody. So I
Speaker 1: feel like we can't. I can't predict anything with this
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just like no information about it. So I
Speaker 4: do see that that idea does make sense if they
Speaker 4: can make it a triple.
Speaker 3: Threat, where like Charlotte and Jade just like do most
Speaker 3: of it and then tell Ria loses the title if
Speaker 3: they don't want her to vacate it and she's like
Speaker 3: okay enough to wrestle at least to get her on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 1: Do you think if it's a triple does that impact
Speaker 1: the winner for you? Because I feel like for some reason,
Speaker 1: if it's a triple, I feel like Jade wins that
Speaker 1: and they might build to Charlotte being here in the
Speaker 1: one on one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that because that'd be like a
Speaker 3: like a heel move, especially if they do something like
Speaker 3: if that's gonna be after that she is just like
Speaker 3: fully taking time off where she like injures Rea even
Speaker 3: more like a taxer or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's true, Yeah, they do that could definitely work out
Speaker 1: som okay.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but yeah, there's really no really way to
Speaker 3: predict it because there's been just like no information about
Speaker 3: how the injury is even like plans like even that
Speaker 3: original like Summer Slam card, like the match that was
Speaker 3: like her versus j C R R Alex ended up
Speaker 3: being for a Night of Champion, So there's not even
Speaker 3: like a rumored Summer Slam match supposed to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you, David? Do you think do you
Speaker 1: think also you know about the injury, but do you
Speaker 1: think whether it's Rhea and Jane or Ria in this
Speaker 1: triple threat that we could pitch, do you think that
Speaker 1: she would keep to or do you think it's again,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to say on the situation.
Speaker 2: There's you know, I think if we find out that
Speaker 2: she is healthy, then she will keep the title. It's hard.
Speaker 2: Like again, Riea is posting, and she's appearing in her
Speaker 2: husband's his live streams and everything else. I mean she
Speaker 2: she seems to be in good spirits and healthy. Is
Speaker 2: no one knows what's going on, and so that makes
Speaker 2: it very hard to say for sure, like what they
Speaker 2: are going to do with her. I don't see them
Speaker 2: stripping her of the title unless it comes back and
Speaker 2: they're like, no, we we know you're going to be
Speaker 2: out for six months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll have to monitor that. We'll see what
Speaker 1: happens there. So and then finally, as the matches that
Speaker 1: we know right now, like we said, we think Chad's
Speaker 1: challenging one way or another, but I think we all
Speaker 1: think that's whether it's a penta, whether it's a multi
Speaker 1: man match, I think that's gonna be going Chad's way.
Speaker 1: We got Seth and Roman, which again I wish that
Speaker 1: did happen in Mania. It's like a Kurt Tell the
Speaker 1: whole storyline.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Roman's winning, Like.
Speaker 1: Roman's winning. I just I'm curious what they're gonna do
Speaker 1: with this match, if it's gonna be acted as the
Speaker 1: this is gonna do We're one last big because I
Speaker 1: actually had too many big single match but so they've.
Speaker 4: Only had like three or four singles matches, yeah, in
Speaker 4: the whole time.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, is this the cap or where, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're probably never gonna do this again. Let's go all
Speaker 1: out and do like what punkin Roman did or is
Speaker 1: it gonna be like the means I see, like fucking
Speaker 1: Zilla Fatu and that type of stuff, right, Like, is it?
Speaker 4: I it just mean it could be both.
Speaker 3: Earlier they're going all out, and then the finish, like
Speaker 3: you know, sets hit like fifteen stops on Roman and
Speaker 3: he's going to hit like a you know, like a
Speaker 3: shooting star top rope stomp on Roman to finally beat him.
Speaker 3: And then you know, black Hoodie comes out someone Spike
Speaker 3: Roman spears of.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ see and that's where there's two pass there.
Speaker 1: I guess there's three pass. There's both, right, But I
Speaker 1: feel like it's either is this a match that's gonna
Speaker 1: progress bloodline four point zero storyline or is this gonna
Speaker 1: be the cap or of the shield storyline. I hope
Speaker 1: it's the latter. I hope it's that. It's like I said,
Speaker 1: I wish this happened at Mania, but I get why
Speaker 1: it's not going to they've tried a few times, it didn't.
Speaker 1: I just wish it was gonna They always talked about
Speaker 1: wanting to mane event together, but at the same time
Speaker 1: they have technically may have been restulated twice together. It's
Speaker 1: been with Brock and Punk, but still they've had their moments, right,
Speaker 1: and especially because Seth had won both those always okay, again,
Speaker 1: that was the plan. I wish I just still technically
Speaker 1: wish they weren't doing this. I wish they kept that
Speaker 1: as an option. That's the thing that hate about Rock
Speaker 1: that he can just pop at at any time things change.
Speaker 1: I wish there was a Seth and Roman and then
Speaker 1: like an Olva and Kobe or Quota or whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do. Right, So, yeah, like Roman's winning, I
Speaker 1: just there's a potentially great match here, or there's like
Speaker 1: a man how I felt after Triple Ah and Sting
Speaker 1: where it's like this could have been the ending of something,
Speaker 1: and we brought in all these shenanigans, Right, I really
Speaker 1: don't know what to be because they proved that WrestleMania, Right,
Speaker 1: Roman did just do that with Punk, we're just doing
Speaker 1: the straight match. I hope they do that again. Of Hey,
Speaker 1: SummerSlam second biggest show of the year, lock in, have
Speaker 1: a good at least four point match whatever and call wits.
Speaker 1: I hope it's not a bunch of Shenanigans. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna say, because their history, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great match, They're not gonna do too much blood
Speaker 1: line stuff, and it's just gonna be Seth and Roman
Speaker 1: and Roman gets to win. That's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: could be very much wrong, but that's what I'm going with.
Speaker 1: So what about you, David.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that it's just a straightforward great match. I
Speaker 2: could see this being a continuation of the bloodline stuff.
Speaker 2: I almost thought adding Zilava too as my return person,
Speaker 2: but I was like, man, I'm not sure if they
Speaker 2: would truly bring him back, as they've been talking about
Speaker 2: him for the last year and a half, so I
Speaker 2: didn't want to waste it on that. But you know,
Speaker 2: I'm hoping this isn't just a let's further the bloodline story.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that they actually get to have like a
Speaker 2: true good match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where are you as bobs? What's happening somewhere? Slam?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't want to especially Yeah, I didn't take
Speaker 3: Zilla or I didn't even take end Zone in Big
Speaker 3: Cast because I feel like there's a chance, like there's
Speaker 3: been some talks that they might go to NXT instead
Speaker 3: of the main roster, which is why I thought that
Speaker 3: with Enzo and Big Cast for sure, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: they could come back us, like, man, they're more suited
Speaker 3: towards NXT though, Yeah, so.
Speaker 4: That's why I didn't take them.
Speaker 3: So I think there's a chance. I mean, even if
Speaker 3: it's not Zilla, I could see like a Jimmy and
Speaker 3: j running during this match and like the Street Profits
Speaker 3: run in to take them out and then someone else
Speaker 3: runs out. I mean, I think they're gonna wrestle for
Speaker 3: real for a while and then it'll I'll you like,
Speaker 3: in the.
Speaker 4: Middle of watching the match, I'll know if it's gonna
Speaker 4: end with LUs.
Speaker 3: Shenannigans or not, Like if they start building up to
Speaker 3: like how are they gonna lose or something like that,
Speaker 3: Like you know, like like I said, like Roman kicks
Speaker 3: out of like the top rope stump or something like that,
Speaker 3: at that point, I'll be like, Okay, someone's gonna run
Speaker 3: out and.
Speaker 1: Do something finishes right.
Speaker 2: That was that.
Speaker 1: I always hate it with the Punk Sina match, right,
Speaker 1: they're having like a decent match, and all of a sudden, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't know where it's like, wait a second, we're
Speaker 1: not at that stage match. And then it was oh,
Speaker 1: here comes Panta, here comes yeah, and that was like like.
Speaker 3: The Live and Steffanie WrestleMania match when she did like
Speaker 3: the Devil's Kiss like a minute into the match. That
Speaker 3: was like, oh, so it's gonna be like a five
Speaker 3: minute match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I agree, you will kind of know after
Speaker 1: the first act, so we'll see what happens there. And
Speaker 1: then so if this were to happen, which I think
Speaker 1: we all predicted that we didn't talk about this actual aspect,
Speaker 1: let's say Code Rhodes wins on Monday beat Sammy Zane,
Speaker 1: and then the stare down. David, I'll start with you
Speaker 1: what happens with Cody and Steampunk one. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you they're on Night one. By the way, Roman and
Speaker 1: seth an uh, because again I'm showing me a show
Speaker 1: where Cody's gonna main event over Roman, just saying it
Speaker 1: hasn't hasn't happened yet, but yeah, what do you think
Speaker 1: happens with this it's just a big match and Cody's
Speaker 1: gonna get the win. Is there a big moment here
Speaker 1: to see him punk at the wind? Where are you
Speaker 1: on this?
Speaker 2: If Cold wins on Monday, I do not see him
Speaker 2: immediately dropping the title to Punk at the next pl Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: In Rest May seventeen he'd bet the angle at No.
Speaker 1: A O and then next month he's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that that was during that that early two
Speaker 2: thousands hot potato air, like.
Speaker 1: That I'm just doing right now. Then we're gonna get
Speaker 1: you aws he Tony watched Rest MA in seventeen. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we could do that, we can get there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I don't see them doing that just
Speaker 2: for for that reason, you know, now if they end
Speaker 2: up finding a different way to make it. But I'd
Speaker 2: like to see Punk have one moral run with the
Speaker 2: actual ww championship. Yes, of course, because I'm a huge
Speaker 2: see in Punk band. Do I think it's likely. No,
Speaker 2: I think it's more of Okay, we've given you a
Speaker 2: World Heavyweight Championship run. We've given you WrestleMania main events,
Speaker 2: We've given you you know, your your special entrance. We've
Speaker 2: done all this other stuff, like we we've made good
Speaker 2: on your return, and you know now we owe you nothing.
Speaker 2: It's back to the big dog.
Speaker 1: And again though I agree with you other than barring injury,
Speaker 1: right because Seth being injured is why Punk got to
Speaker 1: be get that run, right, that was not Punk's run.
Speaker 1: And that's how I always said, either Punk was gonna
Speaker 1: get a Mick Foley Darby Sammy, like oh he'll won
Speaker 1: the title for like a couple of weeks and lose it,
Speaker 1: or because injury, and that's I think the only way
Speaker 1: where I think you'd get the w title is, hey,
Speaker 1: we got no one else Punk's popular put on him
Speaker 1: and he can least carry it, right, And I agree
Speaker 1: with you because I just don't know.
Speaker 4: I just don't.
Speaker 1: I know that's gonna be the big speculation. And I
Speaker 1: think that I tease Cody and Punk doing like dastardly things,
Speaker 1: but I just don't see any match ending with like
Speaker 1: a low blow. And I really don't want Cody.
Speaker 3: And all his big matches now like he's gonna low
Speaker 3: blow Punk and it won't be a heel turn, like
Speaker 3: he'll just do it.
Speaker 1: Punk will do it too, I think, right, because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's where I think there's not gonna be any
Speaker 1: I feel like that's gonna be the all speculations, who's
Speaker 1: gonna turn It's gonna be any of that. I it's
Speaker 1: just a big match, exactly, It's a big Summer Slam
Speaker 1: match to cash in on that. They'll use that what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, And I just really wouldn't want that. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind seeming Punk trying to run heel again. I
Speaker 1: don't think it would work, but I'm I don't want
Speaker 1: to be on Cody. We've had that twice now, Randy
Speaker 1: and scene I happens a third time, I can't take
Speaker 1: it anymore. I'm over it. And especially with Punk's character,
Speaker 1: he always said like I'm never gonna do that. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna come right at you your face, right, So
Speaker 1: it wouldn't make any sense there. And with Cody, I
Speaker 1: still amongst his bad booking, I still think it is
Speaker 1: like too early, right. I still think they should, if
Speaker 1: they ever get there, save that for the Roman era.
Speaker 1: If we get Roman Cody three, I think that's when
Speaker 1: you should pull that trigger. I think the match could
Speaker 1: honestly be really good, though I think there's I don't
Speaker 1: want to like step on my dick and say this,
Speaker 1: but like there's a match of your contender there with them,
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. I don't know, but they could cook
Speaker 1: it up. And the AW fan of me, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: I even't want to see that for a long time again.
Speaker 1: The last promo Cody Rhodes did in AW was taking
Speaker 1: shots at Punk and we never got to back back
Speaker 1: there in a nice way. But there I hope they
Speaker 1: play off that. They played that a couple of times
Speaker 1: where whatever Seam Punk said he was going to do
Speaker 1: and he left, Cody did do all those things. As
Speaker 1: much people might not want to account him for that,
Speaker 1: and other people helped. There's a great story to tell
Speaker 1: with Cody and see him punk, But we also said
Speaker 1: that with Randy and Cody, right, there was a great
Speaker 1: story there and we didn't get that. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: think like Steve Nay Smith's gonna help see him punk
Speaker 1: and that's but maybe it is that thing where it's
Speaker 1: like because these with Sina and Randy, they've made me
Speaker 1: not be able to get excited for Punk and Cody
Speaker 1: because I just don't know, like what what's gonna come
Speaker 1: of this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like other than just I'm down for it's two baby faces.
Speaker 1: We have this history. I'm bigger than you as far
Speaker 1: as the change, No, I'm bigger. I'm gonna prove it
Speaker 1: on Sunday. That's all I need. And then wrestle, shake hand.
Speaker 1: That's good. But I just worry they you're gonna go
Speaker 1: well summerslanme. We need we need something else. This also
Speaker 1: screams like if money the bank was in play, someone
Speaker 1: would be cashing right now, but they're not. See what
Speaker 1: happens now.
Speaker 2: I could see them doing a good sort. Like you said,
Speaker 2: the history between Punk and Cody, I mean, Cody could
Speaker 2: simply say, like you set the example of leaving, I
Speaker 2: set the blueprint of what to do after you leave.
Speaker 2: And you know, they could have some great, you know,
Speaker 2: the friendly rivalry after that. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: full heel versus face for that, you know, And and
Speaker 2: they can have some good back and forth. I also
Speaker 2: think that they could go on maybe a three match
Speaker 2: run where one of them does turn heel over the
Speaker 2: course of that three match run of Jess.
Speaker 1: Maybe they just potatoes. Maybe they just hop potato back
Speaker 1: and forth. Cody beats them, they can just turn it
Speaker 1: abound for that because I think Rock and Triple H
Speaker 1: did that one summer. I think in two thousand. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think they traded three or four because it was yeah,
Speaker 1: because I felt like, didn't Rock beat him a backlash
Speaker 1: and then beat him a judgment day. It's something like
Speaker 1: that where they they they hot potato that a lot.
Speaker 4: I can look it up, which I'm.
Speaker 1: Always down for a hot potato. I think you can't
Speaker 1: do it all the time. But I think if every
Speaker 1: champion which I'll talk about a w which I'm like,
Speaker 1: every championship has a long run, then it just gets
Speaker 1: uber predictable, even though AW is making these things too
Speaker 1: predictable now with MGF, which is annoying, but you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just says it was the was Triple H, then
Speaker 3: the Rock for twenty days, then Triple H for thirty days.
Speaker 4: In the Rock for one hundred days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so before hundred days, if you got a hundred
Speaker 1: who took a rock after that? Curd Angle and that's
Speaker 1: when he and then and then.
Speaker 3: And then Kurt Angle dropped it to the rock and
Speaker 3: then the rock off was still cold, and then back
Speaker 3: to Kurt Angle and then back to still cold, and
Speaker 3: then the Jericho.
Speaker 1: Jericho the two night winds, So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Is there any matches we didn't touch upon that are
Speaker 1: even rumored or.
Speaker 4: Anything for Summer Slam?
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 4: I think that's pretty much all you were just reading
Speaker 4: off like the.
Speaker 1: Meltzer, Yeah, exactly. Ye, that's just a rough guideline right now.
Speaker 1: Change we talked about injuries and whatnot, but just an
Speaker 1: idea and just in case we don't do predictions, which
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess if we will because we
Speaker 1: got the two nights Summer Slam, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think anything big that's like could happen.
Speaker 3: Like there's usually always some multiman match where that be
Speaker 3: like for the IC title or some of the mid
Speaker 3: card titles or tag tiles stuff like that that weren't
Speaker 3: on that leaked lineup, because that lineup was like wet me,
Speaker 3: like eight or nine matches and supposedly there's gonna be
Speaker 3: like fourteen, so seven on each night, so there's still
Speaker 3: some in there that haven't been like revealed yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I like that report to of ESPN being like,
Speaker 1: hey put some more fucking matches on these la Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the sick like those shows for me just run
Speaker 1: very odd the five show ones. It just feels more
Speaker 1: like a certain It's event than a big time event
Speaker 1: other than the big shows. Right, but all right, okay,
Speaker 1: so the aw so wh should we start here? Let's
Speaker 1: start at the world title scene, because you know, I
Speaker 1: was talking to Emily and man, I'm getting bitter. I'm
Speaker 1: getting bitter because I went to Dynasty in Vancouver and
Speaker 1: I and I did not think Kenny was gonna beat
Speaker 1: mjf right, So I thought, okay, that's fine. I just
Speaker 1: got to see that match up Christian and Edge. That
Speaker 1: pissed me off because I knew they're gonna win the
Speaker 1: tag titles and I missed on that. Now we're here,
Speaker 1: and this is where this is my thing of like
Speaker 1: I like, aw hopataine the title, but they don't also
Speaker 1: just need to fucking like they don't need to just
Speaker 1: shove it in our face, like, hey, guess what this
Speaker 1: week we're gonna change the title. Like with the Darby
Speaker 1: Seattle thing, it was like, Okay, I guess it's happening.
Speaker 1: And then with Hangman with him like giving up his
Speaker 1: you know, the streak, we kind of okay, he's not
Speaker 1: winning this back for away. And now I guess, and
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's a chance that Omega loses
Speaker 1: never challenges again. I don't see that happening at all.
Speaker 1: Hangman's character makes sense, he's always run one or twice,
Speaker 1: and I still don't think it's a good idea, But like,
Speaker 1: his character is a depressed guy, so I can see
Speaker 1: how they play it up right with Kenny, he is
Speaker 1: near the end of his career, but I just don't
Speaker 1: believe that he is not getting another run. I do
Speaker 1: think this is because I know me and Spas listened
Speaker 1: to this and other people have had this theory as
Speaker 1: far as like oh, and I feel like TK definitely
Speaker 1: saw social media it was like that's true. Everyone was
Speaker 1: like it felt like everyone want can to win it
Speaker 1: around Dynasty, and then when it didn't have, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: well we'll have to wait for another time because we
Speaker 1: don't want him to be a transitional champion. We can't
Speaker 1: just have him win and then just lose to Auspray
Speaker 1: wide away. So now this was like tkping like, oh
Speaker 1: what if we hit manham Loot win it like a
Speaker 1: little earlier, And I think also the Derby thing helped.
Speaker 1: I think it was like Okay, Darby only had what
Speaker 1: like three weeks to a month, but that rain fell
Speaker 1: like forever because he defended it seven times, right, So
Speaker 1: I think now he looked at him be like, well,
Speaker 1: if we can spam Kenny to defend it a bunch
Speaker 1: of times, it won't feel like a transitional champion, which
Speaker 1: is like technically true. If he defends it like five times,
Speaker 1: he was a good champion either way. I cannot Wednesday,
Speaker 1: the kids are camping. I just got the twins. I
Speaker 1: cannot wait. I'm gonna just not do anything else. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna watch his fucking show. I cannot wait to see
Speaker 1: Kenny o' maga win this as a babyface. I think
Speaker 1: it's definitely happening, And if he wins it, I god forbid,
Speaker 1: I guess you could have. If he wins it and
Speaker 1: just lose the MGFID redemption, you're gonna hear a different
Speaker 1: Travis on that episode. To me, I think if he
Speaker 1: read if you're waiting that thumbnail. But if he wins it,
Speaker 1: I think that's like him stamping. He's in the main event.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's will on him, which is
Speaker 1: my preferred method, But if it's will on him if
Speaker 1: it's the three way whatever it is, because my prediction.
Speaker 4: Is Kenny versus Osprey versus Jeff versus Moxley.
Speaker 1: Mox we'll get to him. He scares me. He could
Speaker 1: find his way in there because again Aboo and other
Speaker 1: people did back up that like he was pitching him
Speaker 1: in Omega for all In, which is like I knew
Speaker 1: it that that's the same when he did, like I
Speaker 1: knew mox DK like me and Kenny, we go way
Speaker 1: back like no, no, no, like there's other people you
Speaker 1: can do that. So I'm all down for what other
Speaker 1: path gets Kenny to the main event of all In,
Speaker 1: because I am also in the realm of I don't
Speaker 1: know when else that's gonna happen. And again, like I
Speaker 1: almost fucking died a couple of years ago, let's let's
Speaker 1: do this now he's healthy. He came to the other side.
Speaker 1: So David obviously been following Kenny and will ask for
Speaker 1: for a long time. I imagine I think we're all
Speaker 1: in the camp that I don't think Kenny's losing this
Speaker 1: Wednesday unless I get like something that gets like he I.
Speaker 3: Think there's like to me, there's a chance he loses
Speaker 3: like like you said, like yeah, like yeah, like to me,
Speaker 3: Like to me, Kenny is like I can see him
Speaker 3: not challenging it, Like I thought Hangman was someone who
Speaker 3: could have kept challenging for it more than Kenny.
Speaker 1: I I guess I agree on the lifespan of it.
Speaker 1: I guess just with the Hangman character and he's always
Speaker 1: the e or of AW. It gives him a reason.
Speaker 1: And again maybe it's the heel thing right that we
Speaker 1: always said that that he could do that. They've never
Speaker 1: talked about this, what happens if Kenny wins via DQ,
Speaker 1: that's always a way out of one of these matches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was That's something for Like I forgot who
Speaker 4: I was booking.
Speaker 2: Is Vince booking right there? That is Vince booking, right.
Speaker 4: I think I think I was.
Speaker 3: I think I was booking that for like when when
Speaker 3: AJ versus Good there God announced that the rumble and
Speaker 3: they're still talks of like they could do it at Mania.
Speaker 3: I was thinking, like what if AJ wins by like DQ,
Speaker 3: then they running back at Many or something, but.
Speaker 1: Just say no, impossible. I think the scenario here is
Speaker 1: Kenny wins it does defenses he versus MGF at redemption.
Speaker 1: My theory is that I guess they could do it.
Speaker 3: It might mean are they do the multiman like like
Speaker 3: with a bunch of people at reduction and like Kenny
Speaker 3: retains for like MGF was like about to win a
Speaker 3: back or something like that, and that's how he claims
Speaker 3: that he can get a rematch.
Speaker 1: I think it's either that it's a situation where like
Speaker 1: MGFF has a pin and the reps down, or is
Speaker 1: a situation where they do a match and MGF like
Speaker 1: dot screwed somewhere.
Speaker 4: Are they double pin or something.
Speaker 1: Or even if it's a one on one, I could
Speaker 1: see them doing the time of the draw. They could
Speaker 1: easily be too, right if like they could market as
Speaker 1: hey whenever.
Speaker 4: I guess that's the question for this match too.
Speaker 3: What if you timelinbit drew on because I mean, I
Speaker 3: feel like they're gonna go pretty long in this.
Speaker 4: They could tease the timely to draw like they could wrestle.
Speaker 4: I could doing like a fifty five minute match or
Speaker 4: something like that. Yeah, and even then.
Speaker 1: Too, like if they did the draw, like I feel
Speaker 1: like mgfight.
Speaker 3: You'd have like you know, like Christopher Daniels in a
Speaker 3: suit running out there or something telling them they like,
Speaker 3: restart the match.
Speaker 1: That could or even if it's draw, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Kenny won't retire.
Speaker 2: As M.
Speaker 1: Jeffer is a heel, I'd say like, hey, like the simplishers,
Speaker 1: he had to win the title and he didn't, and like,
Speaker 1: you know it's a draw, but it's like he should
Speaker 1: still not be able to allow to challenge, Like you
Speaker 1: can have some good heel heat there. But yeah, there's
Speaker 1: lots of narrows here. What are you thinking, David, what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen?
Speaker 2: I I think that Kenny is going to win. I
Speaker 2: think that TK looked at the schedule realized that this
Speaker 2: week during the week itself, during Monday through Friday Wednesday
Speaker 2: is the only night without World Cup games, and he said,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get all that fucking viewership. It is allmine.
Speaker 2: That's that's why he put this on there. And yeah,
Speaker 2: so I think he's he's going to you can't bring
Speaker 2: in all these viewers and then end with a disappointing
Speaker 2: you know, Shenanigan's finish or a dusty finish, like have
Speaker 2: all this weird stuff, because that's gonna bringing in all
Speaker 2: these new viewers. That that is going to put a
Speaker 2: bad taste in people's mouths.
Speaker 1: This is like a World Cup game, like and right
Speaker 1: before aw something like that.
Speaker 2: No, there's no, there's no Wednesday matches.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means everyone's gonna tune in
Speaker 1: that they're missing the World Cup though.
Speaker 2: No, but that is a perfect time do it, because
Speaker 2: you're not You're not going against anything like you know,
Speaker 2: that was the problem that I was saying that Monday
Speaker 2: has Monday, You're going up against Team USA's match at
Speaker 2: the exact same time, like your viewership is going to
Speaker 2: be low, and you know they so they're trying to
Speaker 2: counter program. This isn't counter programming. This is just look,
Speaker 2: I know you guys are burnt out. Let me give
Speaker 2: you some fun wrestling right in the middle of your
Speaker 2: week to just enjoy. And I'm gonna send the crowd
Speaker 2: home happy.
Speaker 1: So if that happens and they will make us happy.
Speaker 4: Do you think?
Speaker 1: What where are you right now? David? And I don't
Speaker 1: even ask you sbubs after too, like, where are you
Speaker 1: all in the main event? What is who are the
Speaker 1: wrestlers who? What is the combination of two or three?
Speaker 2: What is it? I think it's omega versus Osprey, with
Speaker 2: Osprey winning it and having that moment. I also feel
Speaker 2: like Kenny is the type of person in real life
Speaker 2: who wants to give Osprey that win on that stage.
Speaker 2: I think that they have they have such that they
Speaker 2: have such that you know that friend of mees vibe
Speaker 2: that friendly rivalry, that that that respect.
Speaker 1: Why why is Kenny Omega saying that he loves Osprey
Speaker 1: on Dynamite They this is such a piss off for me.
Speaker 1: For years after you left New Japan, they kept us up.
Speaker 1: They weren't even the same company, and they still made
Speaker 1: it to the point where people are like, oh, they
Speaker 1: actually don't like each other. And then they had these
Speaker 1: two matches, still rivalry, Osprey turn on and joined the
Speaker 1: Donk Calls family and Canon. We never got established why
Speaker 1: are they friends? When did they become friends? The one
Speaker 1: time they got beat down by the Cow's family and
Speaker 1: they team together. That's it that you know? I love
Speaker 1: you man, You're You're always be one of my friends.
Speaker 1: What a couple of years ago he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's one of the most overrated wrestlers. He's a trash wrestler.
Speaker 1: Like he was not just saying like, hey, I want
Speaker 1: to fight him. He was like, yeah, he's like like
Speaker 1: a baby version of me. Like they're saying that whole
Speaker 1: press conference of like him talking about was his friend's funeral.
Speaker 1: Like I hate this stuff. I really hate. It's fine
Speaker 1: in real life, that's fine, but on screen, I hate
Speaker 1: that Omega and oscar A like, oh, like is this
Speaker 1: just because Codo Boushie broke his fucking legs and Kenny
Speaker 1: has no one else to be like his like male companion.
Speaker 1: Like I hate this stuff. I wish they were still
Speaker 1: more just rivalry rivals at it's like, hey, I'm in
Speaker 1: a beach to the finish line, not just like yeah man,
Speaker 1: like I don't know what the deaf riders, but like
Speaker 1: I always got your back?
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 1: Where?
Speaker 2: Where?
Speaker 1: Where is this story? Where has this happened?
Speaker 2: But I agree, I you know, other than him making
Speaker 2: the comment, and this was during a forbidden door when
Speaker 2: he said that when he was talking to all the
Speaker 2: aw people and he said that the best person sitting
Speaker 2: here doesn't even work for this company. Other than that,
Speaker 2: like it they they hadn't shown any of that brotherhood
Speaker 2: aspect to get to when I love you, But now
Speaker 2: that and like I said, I think Kenny has such
Speaker 2: a respect for him that he would want to be
Speaker 2: the one who gives him an amazing match that allows
Speaker 2: this to happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, best bubbs right now. July fifth, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: What's the all main event?
Speaker 3: I think I'd be on the on the path of
Speaker 3: I think it's Kenny and Osprey in a singles match.
Speaker 1: Really, J's Elise, I'm in the minority here. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: still thinking of the truple because, like, what the hell's
Speaker 1: ms you have doing? I know people are pitching on Drawde.
Speaker 4: He's working, Uh Mick Foley that that's the only thing.
Speaker 1: But the only reason I guess makefully could be working
Speaker 1: it just he just still talks like I still got
Speaker 1: some things that get cleared up, like I I guess
Speaker 1: just after this counter year.
Speaker 3: I mean, the rumor is that, like for the Men's
Speaker 3: Casino Gauntlet, is like the rumors that like Tik is
Speaker 3: just gonna put like there's a bunch of people, like
Speaker 3: top stars who aren't gonna be on this all En
Speaker 3: card and he's just gonna put all of them in
Speaker 3: this casino gauntlet.
Speaker 2: Is the rumor?
Speaker 1: Sure, Danny m jeff Right he can't.
Speaker 4: They can't do it right back to back, and it
Speaker 4: all challenges Ospray after it.
Speaker 1: I think he deserves as far as like he has
Speaker 1: SATs back them up. But also just like when he's
Speaker 1: at the title, the amount of promo, Like I've not
Speaker 1: seen any AW champion go out and do all the
Speaker 1: talk shows in the podcast over and oh, like he's
Speaker 1: out there working his ass off. I just feel like
Speaker 1: alf this year, how can he not be in the
Speaker 1: main event. I never loved him and Osprey as the
Speaker 1: main event because we've been there literally two years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm still sticking with that. I feel like he's gonna
Speaker 1: John Moxley Hulk Hogan his way into it, even if
Speaker 1: k wants to, like, hey, like you can always do
Speaker 1: Ospray and Omega at any point, but like Andy, he's
Speaker 1: gonna like I'm gonna go film a movie. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do this, like maybe write me off a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like I I'm still leaning again, I prefer the one
Speaker 1: on one match, and if that's the case, you need
Speaker 1: a big match. I love Andrade. I don't think M
Speaker 1: Jeff and Andrade is that. I don't think m Jeff
Speaker 1: and Moxley that's terroristic. This is that I don't like
Speaker 1: McK foley. Is maybe that McK foley is the one
Speaker 1: why and go okay for like, it's weird because he's
Speaker 1: not in the edge in Randy Wordons space where he
Speaker 1: needs to be leveled up. But that would just be
Speaker 1: a big deal of he's wrestling mcfoley's maybe legitimate last match, right,
Speaker 1: so there could be that. But fuck, they'll just run
Speaker 1: him Mark Brisko back, which TK thank you for doing
Speaker 1: that on Dynamite. I was really worried that was gonna
Speaker 1: be like a biggest special. They just literally made it
Speaker 1: the opener and Jeff beat him moving on, which again
Speaker 1: I was that the cage match was fine. I thought
Speaker 1: overall Forbiden Door, I guess we can say that we're
Speaker 1: not gonna review the whole show, but overall thought Forbidden
Speaker 1: Short Door was a really good wrestling show. There's some
Speaker 1: fun surprises as usual, that's what AV does even on
Speaker 1: week shows. They okay, let the town speak for himself.
Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed Omegan Our Saver. I like saverers stuff.
Speaker 1: I know some people don't love the holes and everything,
Speaker 1: but I thought you kind of wheeled back a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's And again, I actually did
Speaker 1: really like Money in Maya World. It's just that I
Speaker 1: thought I was more in the minority of how good
Speaker 1: it was. So over I thought it was a really
Speaker 1: good just wrestling show. It still feels like a hit
Speaker 1: stop show where it's like, eh, like we're just gonna
Speaker 1: have It's like a good matches that's it. Story wise.
Speaker 1: I don't think too much progressed Ospray and Swerve. I've
Speaker 1: seen that kind of been in the middle. I think
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I think I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like a four. I enjoyed it. I
Speaker 1: understand some people as even though I Mima Moxley him
Speaker 1: coming out, they're doing that storyline. I I don't know
Speaker 1: if if Moxley and him don't fight before all in,
Speaker 1: I really have like TK needs help. If if there's
Speaker 1: an image of Osprey winning the title and it's like
Speaker 1: all the deaf writers with him all in, that's fucking lame,
Speaker 1: that's lame, Like they have nothing to do with this
Speaker 1: Osprey like story really in his career. It's a weird
Speaker 1: it's a weird fit. So I'm hoping that at some
Speaker 1: point before like that. I know people I've seen pitch
Speaker 1: that being the redemption match. I came in Moxley, let's
Speaker 1: do that because I just I do not want Oscar
Speaker 1: the death Rid winning the world title like that is
Speaker 1: some like TK like they gotta get out of the
Speaker 1: Moxley sphere. But overall, I thought it was a good show.
Speaker 2: David.
Speaker 1: I know you watched in front of back. What do
Speaker 1: you think about for bind door. We're not gonna go
Speaker 1: match my match with just the overall show I talking
Speaker 1: points after.
Speaker 2: I think overall it was a great show. I will
Speaker 2: say this, Mark Briscoe is starting to have go away
Speaker 2: heat with me.
Speaker 1: He's not there for me yet. I need to see
Speaker 1: what I feel like they should get him in a
Speaker 1: trio's tag and do that.
Speaker 3: He had that he cut like a promo like a
Speaker 3: few weeks ago, like building up this NJF match that
Speaker 3: just went on for so long, like from that point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was getting to that point with me. I
Speaker 4: was like, okay, man, I get it with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy two of them walked out during his promo
Speaker 1: because they and I thought always kind of sent your
Speaker 1: character to them. I like him, and it's just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now, I love Ospray and Swerve strickling. I'm
Speaker 2: hoping that what happens is, you know, Will's doing this
Speaker 2: whole team of things with the Death Riders. I'm hoping
Speaker 2: when it comes to this, his match with Kenny for
Speaker 2: the championship at all In, he tells the Death Riders,
Speaker 2: you know, sit this one out.
Speaker 1: I can do this on my own.
Speaker 2: Wins. It starts gloating that he didn't need it, and
Speaker 2: then if he wants to feed with Moxley, not lose
Speaker 2: the title police, but if he wants to feed with
Speaker 2: Moxley afterwards because they have a little back and forth
Speaker 2: spat about Will say and he didn't really need them
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff, then fine, but I don't want.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see them involved in his win.
Speaker 1: Yeah. If Ostbury wins the title as a death Rider,
Speaker 1: his first defense is Moxley, I guarantee you they fucking
Speaker 1: cut his head off like the week or two after, and.
Speaker 4: I just a plastic bag bring it back out.
Speaker 1: And I guess even then, I'll take Ostpray winning and
Speaker 1: the Riders to sit backstage. I do not want like
Speaker 1: that just feels like mox It just feels like that
Speaker 1: friend who maybe, let's say, if you've ever had this
Speaker 1: dynamic where you have friends from high school and then
Speaker 1: you have your new friend and it's like you're hanging
Speaker 1: over with your friends from high school and that one
Speaker 1: friend just has to try and get in there and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: like we got a different thing going on. That's what
Speaker 1: Maxley feels like, like, hey, I'm on the main event,
Speaker 1: but like I'd sure like to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: It's like no, like it's not your hear man, you
Speaker 1: had a great time, man, you did the story. This
Speaker 1: is not your time. Sit out, Go fucking work someone else,
Speaker 1: go work. Shoot her all in, like, not here.
Speaker 2: This is not He's the guy who hears you making
Speaker 2: plants and goes, oh, so we're going to hear No,
Speaker 2: we're going here, We're going.
Speaker 4: Have you guys seen that clips that people people always pose.
Speaker 3: It's like the guy, the guy at the cookout who
Speaker 3: dressed again into all the conversations. It's just like a
Speaker 3: guy walking around with a plate and he's just like yeah,
Speaker 3: I heard that too, right, and yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Again, you can do something. And I don't get wrong.
Speaker 1: If Kenny wasn't busy, I could see his pitch of
Speaker 1: hey Tons story there, and that is a big match
Speaker 1: on a poster. As much I didn't want Maxley Omega,
Speaker 1: I get that that was how Omega took the title
Speaker 1: off him, right, So it is interesting what's gonna happen there.
Speaker 1: I just hope they I hope if he's in the writers,
Speaker 1: they deem it back. Either way we're getting from July
Speaker 1: or September, Moxley vus Osprey's happening. I don't see Sinnair
Speaker 1: where Osbury just wins the title and he's just like
Speaker 1: a death rider now like and then yeah, he's just
Speaker 1: like I don't need an evolution where he's holding up
Speaker 1: the title. Moxley has the Connell Tita, Marina Shafir has
Speaker 1: the Trios title, you know, like like I don't think
Speaker 1: they need to do that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but and that, I think that the rest
Speaker 2: of the card was pretty good. I did kind of
Speaker 2: feel like a good phenomenal match. It's not taking anything
Speaker 2: away with it. I do feel like Kenny and Zach
Speaker 2: Saber Junior just went a little bit too long for
Speaker 2: my taste. I think you could have cut a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes off of that, and they still put on
Speaker 2: the caliber mess they did, and I think even at
Speaker 2: this stage, the Young are continuing to prove that they
Speaker 2: are still one of the best tag teams in the world.
Speaker 2: Like they they don't need the title on the line
Speaker 2: or don't need this. They can still come out here
Speaker 2: and put on great matches with other great teams, and
Speaker 2: they're back.
Speaker 1: To being really over again. For a while, I thought
Speaker 1: was done for them, Like before they did that broke
Speaker 1: guy the broke Bucks gimmick, when they were doing the
Speaker 1: whole authority thing, I was like, man, they're kind of
Speaker 1: like I was at the point of like, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: they should go to the thed for a little bit,
Speaker 1: like like get there, because it was just like they
Speaker 1: had like nine go away. He was just like people
Speaker 1: didn't really care.
Speaker 2: About that's because they were in that don kellis Vortex.
Speaker 2: That's why you get them out though. Don kallis Vortex
Speaker 2: and they're over here just thriving, putting on good.
Speaker 1: Matches, just like I don't care like people. He's still
Speaker 1: wrestling good. But Kevin Knight has cooled the fuck down
Speaker 1: so much since he's been like he's just a guy now,
Speaker 1: he's just a guy in the group. He got a
Speaker 1: big spot. I unfortunately watched that match he had with
Speaker 1: Leo Rush, and again I don't feel like good for
Speaker 1: Leo Rush as a worker. Yeah, great for him. For
Speaker 1: me who doesn't like this fuck ex suckly, he's getting
Speaker 1: these big calls and now he's like I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: rh that's fine. From there. Now he's like wrestling Kevin Knight.
Speaker 1: He's peering in the second Maine of the match, like
Speaker 1: Leo is here, He's gonna be in that gauntlet match
Speaker 1: at the fucking all in. He's gonna get a big pop.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Kevin Knight, to me, he just feels like
Speaker 1: he was really moving up the chains like a organic
Speaker 1: good guy, and now he's just around like it's just
Speaker 1: like he's like taking orders from MGF and it's like,
Speaker 1: what's going on in this man? Like I don't I
Speaker 1: don't understand. Again, just like Monksley Callus has like like
Speaker 1: some sort of brain control over t K. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me have him. It's just put him with the ops,
Speaker 1: put him with somebody else, Like it's just I don't
Speaker 1: And he didn't make him start his own thing then,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I know the rumors with him
Speaker 1: and Swerve at some point, but it's like he didn't
Speaker 1: need it. Not every heel needs.
Speaker 3: To stand supposedly like they're gonna do the faction of Swerve,
Speaker 3: Kevin Knight and h private.
Speaker 4: Party right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently the private party thing is apparently they both
Speaker 3: got injured. They both got the same injury, uh, in
Speaker 3: the in the same match. Yeah, Like and they're both injured.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they came back and it felt like they
Speaker 1: were because remember there's reports they might be going NXT
Speaker 1: and then it was like the uh the a A
Speaker 1: jay thing right out of nowhere, like, oh, they're back
Speaker 1: and we love Probate party. They've won this, They've won this,
Speaker 1: and then they got injured again, so we'll see. I
Speaker 1: just think Kevin and I couldn't find he could have
Speaker 1: still turned on Darby and been running away from the
Speaker 1: same story. Like Challous has added nothing to this story.
Speaker 1: It'd be different too if it was like he was
Speaker 1: the leader now, like he's the guy, but that's probably
Speaker 1: have him and Fletcher together and then you also have
Speaker 1: caught us. So it's just like it's bottlenecked right now.
Speaker 1: They need to they need to blow up that faction
Speaker 1: quick in myself and.
Speaker 2: Other than that techlast she did her thing like great match,
Speaker 2: great promo afterwards, and then I am so confused of
Speaker 2: what we're doing with the dogs, like they had the
Speaker 2: cage and cope and then you know they're they're going
Speaker 2: and they're jump in the Bank Bank Gang along with
Speaker 2: the Death Riders who also I'm confused, are you Facer
Speaker 2: you hell? I guess it depends on what hour of
Speaker 2: this show you're in now, not even.
Speaker 6: Weekly top of the show, your heels into the main event,
Speaker 6: your face, like I it's it's so confusing.
Speaker 1: And again for Osprey too, wouldn't be like he gets
Speaker 1: back to Dept. Friars. Okay, they're still like brutal guys,
Speaker 1: but they're not going around killing people backstage at tag
Speaker 1: people Rights, Like Okay, maybe they change a little bit,
Speaker 1: they're still doing this shit where they're like cheap tag people.
Speaker 1: So like, as a baby face, Osprey, what the fuck
Speaker 1: you doing pound around with these guys, like what do you?
Speaker 1: And like even the way they talk to each other, it's.
Speaker 4: Like yase, Osprey just doesn't watch Collision. Yeah, he just
Speaker 4: doesn't know what's going on over there.
Speaker 1: Especially when when after the match, they showed the segment
Speaker 1: on aw way, like give them the patch and stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's like Marx is only like six or seven
Speaker 1: like years older than the Osprey. They make a treat
Speaker 1: like Austin's like fucking like fifteen to twenty years younger.
Speaker 1: I'm like they're pretty much like equals as far as
Speaker 1: in the like him just like big like yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'll do my best for you. It's like no, man,
Speaker 1: like he's not your fucking dad, Like what's going on here?
Speaker 1: It's just like a weird I hold. At some point,
Speaker 1: it's just like, I what my dream would be is
Speaker 1: what they did with Daniel Brian the Wyatts, where Brian
Speaker 1: just used the Watts and then he turned on them, right.
Speaker 1: I did not want to be where Osprey gets turned on.
Speaker 1: He just looks like such a fucking geek. But I
Speaker 1: think it's the route we're going, and he was like it's.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's just it's such a weird dynamic.
Speaker 2: You got Ospar over here talking about I'm here to
Speaker 2: restore the feeling, and then you've got the rest of
Speaker 2: the Death Riders behind him, like no, we're just here
Speaker 2: to whoop some motherfucker's ass like that, that's all right,
Speaker 2: we're here for and yeah the person that broken neck
Speaker 2: and stuff, and you know that he talks about boxing
Speaker 2: the death Riders like he getting there's some paragon that
Speaker 2: you have to look up to when in reality, like
Speaker 2: I remember watching Best of Super Juniors and PWG stuff
Speaker 2: from will Osprey same time I was watching, you know,
Speaker 2: Moxley come up. So it's it's not like their their
Speaker 2: careers are just so spread out.
Speaker 1: Like yeah it does. Like that's where it's like the
Speaker 1: Kyle Fletcher's like Kevin Knights that works for that. Not Austin.
Speaker 1: He's been around like he was one of the very
Speaker 1: first like Twitter arguments of him and ricketshipping like look
Speaker 1: at this fucking match.
Speaker 2: They had all this flippy ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was like dead us years ago. Whatever. Now
Speaker 1: it's like it we're pasted, Like it's it's weird. It's
Speaker 1: weird that Asbury's being treated like the little kid run
Speaker 1: It's not. He's a guy, he's a man, he's married,
Speaker 1: he's been wrestling for two decades. Like why is he
Speaker 1: just like Boxley's like sub or whatever. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I suppose what did you watch for did you watch
Speaker 1: anything from Windor?
Speaker 3: I only saw I think I only saw the women's
Speaker 3: title matches perfect.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask about that anyways, for the women's stuff,
Speaker 1: So what do you think of those? And then we'll
Speaker 1: talk about the women's for all and the forreceding future
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can start with Techla and Starlight Kid. I
Speaker 4: thought it's a fun match.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like either there's like greatest matches, not that
Speaker 3: it was bad, but I thought it was a fun time.
Speaker 3: It definitely felt like, well, the interesting thing I was
Speaker 3: gonna say, I feel like like Starlight Kid did like
Speaker 3: all her like cool like big match stuff. But it
Speaker 3: does seem like this feud is continuing because of like
Speaker 3: the stuff in the in the presser.
Speaker 4: And then Stardom.
Speaker 3: Starley Kid has been talking like she wants to go
Speaker 3: back and like get her mask back. So the theory
Speaker 3: now that I've seen people is like and we can
Speaker 3: sort of bring up stuff for this week like the
Speaker 3: Women's Casino Gauntlet where like the winner face of the
Speaker 3: Women's Champa at Redemption, like if Willow wins the title there,
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe like Tecla.
Speaker 4: Tecla and Starlight.
Speaker 3: Kid in like a like a maybe like mask versus
Speaker 3: hair or something like that, like add.
Speaker 4: All in could be a match. Hmmm mm, because said
Speaker 4: like he was at well, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3: A few years ago someone asked there was an interview
Speaker 3: with TK and they asked them, like, who are two
Speaker 3: wrestlers like outside of AW who would like who would
Speaker 3: be like the top two you'd want to bring in?
Speaker 3: And he said Zach Saber Junior and star Like Kid. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he brings in ZSJA for every opportunity he can,
Speaker 3: Like if he could get DSJ to like do a
Speaker 3: random collision, he would do it.
Speaker 1: Sam has been a record that like he has no
Speaker 1: interest in leaving Japan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the one guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like says number one, because it's like he
Speaker 3: could haven't been like he has them all the time
Speaker 3: he can when he's in the US, but yeah, he's
Speaker 3: just not gonna go So.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe yeah that'd be I'd be down for the
Speaker 1: mass versatile situation I think or the hairsta I think
Speaker 1: would lose, but I also don't think that would hurt tech.
Speaker 3: Let's look at all, Yeah, let's should shoot I've I
Speaker 3: feel like that's why people were pitching as like a puzzle,
Speaker 3: because I feel like she'd be down to do it.
Speaker 1: I guess I guess where I am. It's tough because
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. But with all in last year,
Speaker 1: we only had the two women's matches, right, it was
Speaker 1: Mercedes and Tony And was it like a gauntlet? Right?
Speaker 1: I think, uh, yeah, yeah, so we have we well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because now people are saying like they and I
Speaker 3: like Chetah, but people were saying, like putting the TVs
Speaker 3: title on Cheetah, that's like she's she's defending the title
Speaker 3: on the on the All End pre show or just
Speaker 3: being in the gauntlet that.
Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna complain with all the places I
Speaker 1: said the same a couple episodes ago. She is not
Speaker 1: the worker she was a couple of years ago. It's
Speaker 1: it's like she can still have a decent match, but
Speaker 1: before she could put on like a four star. I
Speaker 1: won't say in her sleep, but she'd go in there
Speaker 1: and really tear it down right now she's not.
Speaker 4: Doing that now.
Speaker 3: And I'll say she's a really good like character in
Speaker 3: promo now, like her English is like I've seen I
Speaker 3: don't know if you've seen like her. She does like
Speaker 3: twitch streams and stuff like that, and now like she
Speaker 3: like live translates like like she'll be streaming and like
Speaker 3: talking English and then repeats all everything she said in
Speaker 3: Japanese for like everything, like she streams in two languages,
Speaker 3: and I thought her promoust have been like and I
Speaker 3: like the I like the character of like her being
Speaker 3: like evil in Japanese.
Speaker 4: And like speaking English. That thought it was a fun gimmick.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't really know.
Speaker 3: It definitely feels like the TVs title is kind of
Speaker 3: just like in a limbo of what is like. I
Speaker 3: don't think TK is like a huge plan for a
Speaker 3: match at all in for it.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think.
Speaker 3: Even if he gives it to someone else like right away,
Speaker 3: even if she were to lose it to like, because people.
Speaker 4: Really wanted Almanada to win that match.
Speaker 3: It was like the thing, So even if he gave
Speaker 3: it to her, I feel like that still wouldn't really
Speaker 3: make the all in card from Tk's cooking history.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's why I was gonna say though, And
Speaker 1: that's where I wonder what happens with the woman's style,
Speaker 1: because we all are the tag taile. We all know
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the dominion versus the brawling brutes or
Speaker 1: braves or whatever the hell they're rawing birds, probably for
Speaker 1: her Jesus. So I really hope that's not on the
Speaker 1: buy in. I bet it will be because he put
Speaker 1: fucking Jimmy haters to comeback on the buy in against
Speaker 1: Paige last Sorea. So to me, that's a question, like,
Speaker 1: I really hope all and does not just have two
Speaker 1: women's matches. If it does, what gets them? And that's
Speaker 1: where it's like, is it I still feel like that's
Speaker 1: the only thing about Tech Leave versus Star Kids, Like
Speaker 1: would that take up when the spot's that all in?
Speaker 1: That's where I'm Yeah, if he's down three four, then yes,
Speaker 1: but if it's only two, I feel like he'll still
Speaker 1: put one of his titles over it, right, And yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the thing. And again again you run the
Speaker 1: show so fucking long and again and also it's always
Speaker 1: there's stuff on there. When it's like, Okay, the women
Speaker 1: can't get on there, but we're gonna have a conglomulation
Speaker 1: in their ten man tag and do something. It's like
Speaker 1: we don't need that, but yeah, and then what did
Speaker 1: you think of Also Onny, what did you think about
Speaker 1: the Mercedes versus Maya. Mercedes got the win. We don't
Speaker 1: know what the plan was because we put a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff. Maybe she wasn't the plan. Maybe the idea
Speaker 1: is maybe to do her and or maybe this was
Speaker 1: still always a plan somehow to get Will at the
Speaker 1: world time. I don't know. With injuries, it's really really tricky.
Speaker 1: But at least the match, what do you think about that?
Speaker 1: And then I'll throw it a David for these two situations.
Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, I really enjoyed this match. I thought it
Speaker 4: was really great.
Speaker 3: Like I'd seen a few well, I did watch I
Speaker 3: did watch like the ROH Survival of the Fittest which
Speaker 3: had my world in it, where she was like the
Speaker 3: last one in there with Athena, like she was the
Speaker 3: final one eliminated. And from that I thought like I
Speaker 3: had heard of her and like she'd been around aw
Speaker 3: for a couple months by them, But from there I
Speaker 3: saw she.
Speaker 4: Was really good.
Speaker 3: So, you know, being getting this big push to work
Speaker 3: with Mercedes at Forbidden Door, I thought was really cool.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I really enjoyed the match, Like it definitely
Speaker 3: did have some moments like through stuff where it was
Speaker 3: just you know, stuff happening, or even like it seemed
Speaker 3: like she had like wardrobe issues at some point, so
Speaker 3: not even her fault in like it being like oh
Speaker 3: she didn't move wrong, It's like, oh, that was like
Speaker 3: out of her control pretty much.
Speaker 4: But I thought it was a really good match.
Speaker 3: I'd give it like a four point five like that
Speaker 3: was to me, Like I really enjoyed it, and even
Speaker 3: some of the stuff.
Speaker 4: Like that was like a botch.
Speaker 3: I kind of liked it just for like the struggle
Speaker 3: of it, like the power bomb spot where like we'receding
Speaker 3: just could win up for it like three times and
Speaker 3: then gave up and just like hit her with something else.
Speaker 3: Like I thought it worked, like even though it was
Speaker 3: like clearly not what was supposed to happen there, but
Speaker 3: I thought it was really great.
Speaker 4: Honestly.
Speaker 3: People pointed out like a bunch of callbacks to different
Speaker 3: stuff in Mercedes career, like I send this discord when
Speaker 3: it happened like that power bomb to the floors like
Speaker 3: from an Oscar Summer Slam match in the Pandemic, and
Speaker 3: even the spot at the very end where she's like
Speaker 3: about to get to the ropes and puts her foot
Speaker 3: on the rope to flip herself back over into the hold.
Speaker 3: Is like from the Bailey versus Sasha like Brooklyn match.
Speaker 3: So I thought it was really cool and definitely elevated
Speaker 3: Maya like I agree like Meltzer, like people quote all
Speaker 3: this stuff and him not wanting to rate the match,
Speaker 3: but what he said in one of his coats was
Speaker 3: like he said, like to him, Mercedes is like on
Speaker 3: the Rick Flair level of what he did of going
Speaker 3: to these territories and just working with people and making
Speaker 3: them look like as best as possible, and like that's.
Speaker 1: The real getting over. When people try and pitch me
Speaker 1: about like oh, when Brock Betsoba, it's gonna get him
Speaker 1: over later, it's like no, no, what was already over.
Speaker 1: That's like a loss where it's like okay, and not
Speaker 1: many people can do that, right, that's a loss where
Speaker 1: now Maya's on.
Speaker 4: The on the road contracked.
Speaker 1: When the rh TK he's sometimes the worse at getting
Speaker 1: like people have momentum. He's like yeah, like four months later,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like no, no, no, or it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll put it somewhere else where. It's meant with Don
Speaker 1: Cols w went with RH and I again to me,
Speaker 1: the answer is not blocking my aup in RH. That's
Speaker 1: like okay, you run with her, have her keep building on.
Speaker 3: I mean, or even if you do, like put that
Speaker 3: on the island card like Hersadena for the r Sidle
Speaker 3: like on the main Showstly, I don't think he would,
Speaker 3: but I mean, I'm saying like if you want to,
Speaker 3: if you want to go to the roh Troute but
Speaker 3: still want to like feature on these big shows, like
Speaker 3: get her the r och title, but don't let her
Speaker 3: be like Atheno where she's just only on RWCH like
Speaker 3: be a bandito or they're on TV all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the thing we always said, it's like a
Speaker 1: shit ter, get up the pot. It's either like make
Speaker 1: RH just its own thing and not important to AW
Speaker 1: and key by itself, or bring up the work to
Speaker 1: make us care putting in the buy and tell me
Speaker 1: Athena's had all these fucking rain days with them seeing
Speaker 1: her lose all time. That is nothing from me on AW.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, cool, you just have this title because
Speaker 1: no one from AW, like Mercedes or Willow's gone down
Speaker 1: there to take it off you. It's like a little
Speaker 1: It's like it's like if a ten year old saying, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm undefeated, like I don't know Judo, and I go, okay,
Speaker 1: well maybe Judah, maybe still keep my ass but fair
Speaker 1: enough to boxing, and I go, okay, me as the
Speaker 1: thirty two year old man wants to fight you and
Speaker 1: take that title, It's like, okay, that doesn't really work.
Speaker 1: So with Athena, these days mean nothing.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: It's great that she has them, but like it's time
Speaker 1: to get her in an ai to being agree with
Speaker 1: you that herbs mind would be great for all In.
Speaker 1: Would Tony do it? I don't think so. But like
Speaker 1: that's like the one time I'm actually interested in rh
Speaker 1: thing is the one time you probably be like nah,
Speaker 1: like the buying's fine or whatever. The r H show
Speaker 1: is that week, you know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't even know when the next like
Speaker 4: big r H show is.
Speaker 3: I feel like it could probably be like all In weekend,
Speaker 3: but I don't know if they're doing it in London,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: But and then you're on the Willow Mercedes training things
Speaker 1: happening Willow.
Speaker 4: It takes off time, I think so.
Speaker 3: But then that also brings the question like, is that,
Speaker 3: like you know, Willow getting like a one month rain
Speaker 3: to drop her a Mercedes or she retaining and Mercedes
Speaker 3: not getting the world title. I think there's a chance,
Speaker 3: do you know what, I'd say, there's a bigger chance
Speaker 3: of Willow's rain going longer than Kenny just he's gonna
Speaker 3: lose sauce for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no matter what Kenny's he's losing. We're Willow. You
Speaker 1: could beat Mercedes, and she always plays with the like
Speaker 1: the Willow now has my number sort of thing. We
Speaker 1: talked about this before. There's so much similarities with this
Speaker 1: in the world title and then the men's and the
Speaker 1: what the hell does Takesha have International or.
Speaker 2: What is it called? Now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has the international.
Speaker 1: YSA the same thing when we talked about the triple
Speaker 1: thread of MG, you have Osprey and Kenny, It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if they did do that, everyone's now thinking because they're
Speaker 1: doing Fletcher and Takesha this week, which I disagree with,
Speaker 1: the idea is it's going to be caught in the
Speaker 1: triple that Again. I don't want that. I just want
Speaker 1: Fletcher and Kyle straight up all in thirty minutes, let's go,
Speaker 1: but all caught is around. So it's like those three
Speaker 1: matches have like these like weird similarities going on right
Speaker 1: now that I think though it is because of the
Speaker 1: injury though, right like the women's situations all because of that.
Speaker 1: But all right, yeah, David, what do you think about
Speaker 1: the Mercedes and my imagine?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 1: What do you think is going on? The world titles
Speaker 1: will get in a quick win? Is they gonna heat
Speaker 1: Tecla or Mercedes would be a baby face at some point?
Speaker 1: You got a heel versus heel? Where are they going?
Speaker 2: I think? Uh? In the vacuum of the Mercedes. In
Speaker 2: our World match, Mercedes continues to prove like you said,
Speaker 2: she is the rect flair of this generation. She is
Speaker 2: the perfect person to help elevate. She's continued to do it.
Speaker 2: You know, if TK doesn't do something with My World,
Speaker 2: then she is going to get an opportunity somewhere because
Speaker 2: of this match and how good Mercedes made her look.
Speaker 2: She's partially responsible for Stephanie Vacher getting pulled over to
Speaker 2: WW like. She continues to put on great matches and
Speaker 2: is willing to put people on display when she was
Speaker 2: doing her whole ultimal monette thing. She was putting people
Speaker 2: on display. Yeah, she was winning champions and then when
Speaker 2: she started losing them, she was putting people on display.
Speaker 2: Like She's continued to show that she is one of
Speaker 2: the best women's.
Speaker 1: Wrestlers in the world.
Speaker 2: Where we go from here. I have a feeling that
Speaker 2: you know, she she's gonna talk her stuff, Willow's gonna
Speaker 2: come back, and then I have a feeling it will
Speaker 2: probably be a triple or something for the women's title.
Speaker 1: You think going.
Speaker 2: Yes, because I don't see Mercedes versus Tecla in a
Speaker 2: heel versus heel type deal. And also don't see Mercedes
Speaker 2: going full baby face.
Speaker 1: And we all know technics point though, right like, because
Speaker 1: she's been doing so good.
Speaker 3: So you don't think it would be just Willow and
Speaker 3: Mercedes one on one in the that would be a
Speaker 3: heel face, just normal singles.
Speaker 2: No, I think that they would bring her back to
Speaker 2: be that that third option within there to kind of
Speaker 2: break things up. So you'll have Mercedes in kind of
Speaker 2: an in between role. You'll have the peer baby face,
Speaker 2: and you'll have the peer heel.
Speaker 1: Imagine if it's like Resume in two thousand, where the
Speaker 1: world titles of triple, the Internationals, a triple, the Women's
Speaker 1: Tripball had all these multi person matches in every corner.
Speaker 1: I think like, obviously one of the it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a triple, right, and maybe they won't do that for
Speaker 1: them all. And that's the case where you could do
Speaker 1: situation where will gets back in the same thing. It's
Speaker 1: a draw a tech law, which I would love it
Speaker 1: if they're like, hey, women, you get to go an hour.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'd have Tecla do that, and Willow
Speaker 1: I don't think so, especially coming back from injury, but
Speaker 1: maybe it's like a double pin whatever, so you could
Speaker 1: do that. I do think they are doing Willow and
Speaker 1: Mercedes will Mercedes, like I don't know, I shouldn't WinCE
Speaker 1: because I got history and they got good matches. It
Speaker 1: just feels a lot like MGF and Osprey. It's like
Speaker 1: we're just like, have done this like a little bit
Speaker 1: too recently. And it maybe be different too if Willow
Speaker 1: had a longer run. If it is just she beats
Speaker 1: Tecla at Redemption and then a month later it's versus
Speaker 1: Sasha or fuck Mercedes, I don't know, like and at
Speaker 1: least so I'll say one thing about that match. The
Speaker 1: winner could go either way. That winner is predictable if
Speaker 1: it's just Willow and Mercedes, because it's like, hey, Willow
Speaker 1: just won it, She's never won the world title. She's
Speaker 1: gonna really drop it a month later, or do you
Speaker 1: have Sasha doing that right? And either way, the story
Speaker 1: is there because it's a tiebreaker as well. They both
Speaker 1: have one win over each other, or wait, no they
Speaker 1: have no it's actually no, I guess it's two for
Speaker 1: Willow because Willow won that first one back in New
Speaker 1: Japan when Mercedes was supposed to win but she broke
Speaker 1: her foot and they did the whole like power bomb
Speaker 1: and pin me right now, like we gotta go home,
Speaker 1: like you get this, you get this inaugural title. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that bad. I shouldn't say that, because you know what,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you. I could be like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how excy I am, but Willow and Mercedes could go
Speaker 1: and put in a four point five or on all
Speaker 1: in steal the show, right, They could easily. So I
Speaker 1: just need to see all these again, see how they
Speaker 1: play on some of these stories. Even Tecla and saw
Speaker 1: the Techla and Mercedes even if it was heel versuel
Speaker 1: which I ont think would be. Something about those two
Speaker 1: characters really intrigues me already, like the chirping there to
Speaker 1: get the press conferences. I don't know, because like there's
Speaker 1: like there's they're both like heels, but Austin Mercedes is
Speaker 1: very stuck, like I'm better than you. I got the suits,
Speaker 1: I got the big entrances, I got the dance, I
Speaker 1: get out here where Tech was just like this, like fireasty,
Speaker 1: like drunken, like just like Warrior that's gonna come in
Speaker 1: and not afraid your cheat, though not afraid to take
Speaker 1: her cuts like both of them though so and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind. Like again, I never I remember that was
Speaker 1: the reason in wrestling in twenty three, that was the
Speaker 1: rumor they were supposed to do edge versus Randy, and
Speaker 1: like last minut, Vince got cold feet because they didn't
Speaker 1: want to do heel versus heel, so he just threw
Speaker 1: them in money in the bank. But like there is
Speaker 1: a way to make heel versus heel work. It's tough,
Speaker 1: but like you can make it work. So I think
Speaker 1: it is gonna be. I think what that sup was this,
Speaker 1: I think it will be Willow and Mercedes, but I
Speaker 1: think it they they do risk a lot of stories
Speaker 1: being similar with this in the world title, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm down either way. The good thing is
Speaker 1: the collection with those ladies, they'll be I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about the all on match quality. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be good no matter what. I think. I'm the same
Speaker 1: way with tech l as I am with MGF, though
Speaker 1: it feels very much like Edge and O seven where
Speaker 1: Tech is gonna have this long run and then I
Speaker 1: guess she just loses the title and doesn't like get
Speaker 1: to have the all in show, you know, Like it's
Speaker 1: that for me is always when you have that person
Speaker 1: that puts in a bunch of work for the whole year,
Speaker 1: and then same with w that always bugging me with okay, Well,
Speaker 1: then brockets a tele for Mania or Goldberg gets the
Speaker 1: tele for Mania. I never liked that. It's like, I
Speaker 1: guess you can reward them. But it's just like with Tecla.
Speaker 1: She's been putting a lot of work and I think
Speaker 1: she's won a lot of people over. I would hate
Speaker 1: for her to lose the title and then where is she, Oh,
Speaker 1: she's on the buy in, and I've said that before.
Speaker 1: It's just like with w W when EO wasn't on
Speaker 1: WrestleMania and Tiffany was in WrestleMania. That does things where
Speaker 1: it makes me invest less than your stars because why
Speaker 1: should I invest them if you're not gonna invest in them? Right, So,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they just have techlog just fucking squashed.
Speaker 1: She'd a fucking all in and win that. Or I'm
Speaker 1: hoping there is at least a Gaulton as well too,
Speaker 1: because I guess you could get Teckle there. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and then yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: there's anything else. Jay White's back. That's good. It's interesting
Speaker 1: the reception on Jay White. I feel like people just
Speaker 1: love her hating this guy now, which is like a
Speaker 1: weird dynamic.
Speaker 2: I feel like something that I popped for his return.
Speaker 2: When when I when I heard the Switchbloy sounds, say
Speaker 2: switchboy sounds because that does not sound like a switch Boy.
Speaker 2: But when I when I heard that little shop come through,
Speaker 2: I was like, I popped for it. I was happy
Speaker 2: to see him. You know, over four hundred days since
Speaker 2: he's been around. You know, we had that thing that
Speaker 2: was put up on social media while you go like
Speaker 2: who's going to be returning between him, Britt Baker, Keith
Speaker 2: Lee and everything else, Like yeah, like I could see
Speaker 2: Jay White being one of the first ones to come
Speaker 2: back out of that group, and here we go, and
Speaker 2: I'm happy to see him. I am here miss on
Speaker 2: the Bank Bang Gang as a whole, like that fuck man,
Speaker 2: they I they I Jews Robinson kind of annoys me.
Speaker 2: I don't really have a good feel on Ace Austin,
Speaker 2: Like I've watched him for years, but I've still never
Speaker 2: been like, oh, I'm I'm looking forward to an Austin match.
Speaker 2: And then you've got the Guns who you know, they
Speaker 2: serve their purpose. So I'm not huge on the Bang
Speaker 2: Bang Gang, but I think that they could do some
Speaker 2: fun stuff, especially with j White being back.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it's funny with the Stales. The Bang Bang
Speaker 1: Gang reminds me of like Kenny with like the Bucks
Speaker 1: and the Elite, where when Tik doesn't know what to do,
Speaker 1: it's like, I'll just get him back there and now
Speaker 1: like have them be alone. And I actively think the
Speaker 1: Banggang the Bang Bang Gangs a stupid name, and I
Speaker 1: hate I hate that their whole thing is I was
Speaker 1: fine with the elite, and I know people are gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm biased, and I love the elite and the bullcalle
Speaker 1: back in the day, But like when they were doing
Speaker 1: the whole two suite in the Suckets, there's like a
Speaker 1: kind of like parody to it, the whole like we
Speaker 1: got two words for you guns up. It doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like parody. It just feels like it's a full stealing thing.
Speaker 1: But at the same timeh and a bunch of w
Speaker 1: fans I lived at the whole era of the all
Speaker 1: the elites just like a lesser DX. They just steal
Speaker 1: from them. So okay, that's fine. Maybe I'm maybe I'm
Speaker 1: biased there, but I just feel like they I feel
Speaker 1: they work better if they're a heel faction in the
Speaker 1: Bang Bang Gang, there's nothing about the that screams babyface.
Speaker 1: A lot of them just screamed, especially the guns screaming
Speaker 1: like douchey, and it's just like there's nothing about them
Speaker 1: that I want. So if White was a heel, which
Speaker 1: I think he's way better at. Luckily he did a
Speaker 1: good promo that was fine. I think at one point
Speaker 1: he was one of the best heels in wrestling. I've
Speaker 1: always said this, this is a great match. He was
Speaker 1: having camera with somebody, but he like pushed. He accidentally
Speaker 1: threw a wrestler into Jr. And he got knocked down.
Speaker 1: Josh Burnette was doing commentary and Josh Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: crowd was it felt like Jay White was gonna be
Speaker 1: murdered by the crowd. Jo It was like this guy.
Speaker 1: And then after that he was saying shit about JR.
Speaker 1: Like there was a year camera what year? That year
Speaker 1: he was the heel of the year in wrestling. There's
Speaker 1: times where he can heat up him as a babyface
Speaker 1: and I don't like these pantsies wrestling either. It does
Speaker 1: not work. So I hope he's just right now he's
Speaker 1: a babyface because he.
Speaker 4: Was jus he threw yeah.
Speaker 2: It was at.
Speaker 1: One yeah, twenty two, like he was on his way,
Speaker 1: and not too long after that is when he won
Speaker 1: the New Japan like the IGWP Championship, Like he was great.
Speaker 1: And I think that right now he should be a
Speaker 1: bayface because he came back. If people want to cheer him,
Speaker 1: you rock with that while you can. My hope is
Speaker 1: in the future we get an episode where him and
Speaker 1: the Bangang whatever, him and his slackies. They beat the
Speaker 1: shit as some babyface, right, even if it's Osprey because
Speaker 1: he took a shot Osprey, I would love that. Now
Speaker 1: the worries. Then it's the fucking Bang Bangang and versus
Speaker 1: the deaf Riders, which could very much happen. But j White,
Speaker 1: to me, works better as a heel, and I think
Speaker 1: as a babyface, the whole group kind of leeches off
Speaker 1: his aura. I think they're all like, they don't bring
Speaker 1: anything to him. It is the movie where you've got
Speaker 1: an a class actor and then the rest are all
Speaker 1: goon type of actors. It don't me wrong. I like
Speaker 1: Juice Robinson. He can be like a good wrestler. He sorry,
Speaker 1: he is a good wrestler. But there's just something with
Speaker 1: this group as a bay face that doesn't work. So
Speaker 1: with Jay White as me as being a supporter. To me,
Speaker 1: it's one strike, two strike, three strikes you're out. The
Speaker 1: first run which led to the MGF title match, which
Speaker 1: was caused law aw that strike one, and then after
Speaker 1: a lot of other stuff, the Billy gunn Run doing
Speaker 1: the Banggangang everything and stuff, that strike two. This is
Speaker 1: the third time. This is TK you gotta get it
Speaker 1: right this time, because then I feel like JA White's
Speaker 1: never gonna be a like a main guy and I
Speaker 1: don't even know if he can. To be honest, you
Speaker 1: were like in AW, I don't know if he can.
Speaker 1: And there's gonna be that time where KA when he
Speaker 1: signed with AW versus WWE, which granted at the time,
Speaker 1: ww was like on a freeing hiring free so they
Speaker 1: didn't really go after him. Still he could have waited
Speaker 1: and seen. I don't know, but I hope TK can
Speaker 1: get it right with him because I think J White
Speaker 1: is talented, but it's like what we talked about Shamus,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's got to show that full talent.
Speaker 1: In AW, he's felt like very just kind of reduced
Speaker 1: unless he's just a guy. Now it's just like can't
Speaker 1: I just want to get my paycheck and I'll do whatever,
Speaker 1: which here all the time with the rest is right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I check out, they go just pay me, book me.
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever. And if that's the case, that would
Speaker 1: make me very sad because I think J White can
Speaker 1: be a talent. But we'll see in the coming months.
Speaker 1: It's like, is he gonna a rise to be a
Speaker 1: top guy or is he just gonna be like wrestling
Speaker 1: for the Trio's title and the TNT like that type
Speaker 1: of stuff, And I could see it going either way unfortunately,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. Oh and last question, I
Speaker 1: want to ask you guys, who's moks working at all in?
Speaker 1: I've been to circle back to that, but who is
Speaker 1: he working? Because it looks like Omega's off the table
Speaker 1: now we kind of joked about that. What's happening. Is
Speaker 1: he just in the goal? I don't think he's in
Speaker 1: the goalon either. I think he's gonna want a one
Speaker 1: on one all in match.
Speaker 4: Yeah, since he has the continental title.
Speaker 1: It's almost like if the night was still a babyface,
Speaker 1: we had a fucking perfect match, but no, we can't
Speaker 1: do that well.
Speaker 2: And it also depends how is Mox working. Is Mox's
Speaker 2: working healer babyface? What what is he going into this as?
Speaker 2: Because it varies weak to weak.
Speaker 1: He'll work heal for the match and then he'll come
Speaker 1: back as a baby face to sell y r ospring.
Speaker 1: It's fine, and now our one forgot my thing before
Speaker 1: you guys roaring out. I guess you could throw him
Speaker 1: in the multi man gallent. I don't think you should
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 4: I guess it's we're going Derby again, not not.
Speaker 1: Derby, which is I feel like, I guess maybe they'll
Speaker 1: try and wait for that. I I guess for me,
Speaker 1: it's the Hangman of it all. What is Swerve doing?
Speaker 1: Because I've seen people pitch that that's it could be
Speaker 1: Swerve and hang Man. They somehow heat that back up
Speaker 1: and we do the tiebreaker, right.
Speaker 3: I saw someone fucking like it was like an all
Speaker 3: in fantasy card that like people are making fun of
Speaker 3: because one of the matches was randomly Swerve and Hangman
Speaker 3: versus the MotorCity machine Guns. But then all the other
Speaker 3: tag teams were in the ladder match, but they mostly
Speaker 3: machine guns were Swerve and Hangman.
Speaker 1: Then all in that is a fucking that's a while,
Speaker 1: Like even then you get Swerve of Hangman, but like
Speaker 1: the guns, like why why that pairing? But my old
Speaker 1: thing is with hay Man. I do think that Ham
Speaker 1: and Swerve is the tiebreaker all and heat it up.
Speaker 1: That would be great, give it a big stage, a
Speaker 1: great show too, that could happen. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. I don't definitely can't do Hangman and Moxley. Again,
Speaker 1: let's not go down that route. If Hayman's doing something
Speaker 1: else for all in even if he's just like even
Speaker 1: if he's in the galllet and like wins and like
Speaker 1: gives it to someone else, or maybe he's chooses a
Speaker 1: different title, right, like maybe they does that.
Speaker 3: For someone else, wins in and gives it to him,
Speaker 3: like Christian Cage and Lucisaurus.
Speaker 1: Right, there's there's a way to skirt and cashes on Kenny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but i.
Speaker 3: Osprey wins, they're celebrating, they do the turn on him,
Speaker 3: and then he just catches in.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine here's the trifecta ultra heel. Hangman breaks
Speaker 1: his word challenges for the title. He cashed it on
Speaker 1: Osprey and he joins the death writers. He is Hogan
Speaker 1: level heel. But no, I don't like so take out
Speaker 1: Hayman is my preferences hang Man, Swerve. I actually think
Speaker 1: Swerve and Mocksley you could do something there. I feel
Speaker 1: like they had that terror that match that s bubs
Speaker 1: that brings up all the time.
Speaker 3: That that's another one to put on the list. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and Edge versus Mox as well.
Speaker 1: Versus mox Yeah, that's I know, I takes off. I
Speaker 1: can't relive that one, s bub I can't. I got
Speaker 1: myself hyped for that one for years.
Speaker 3: That was not even as bad as the like the
Speaker 3: Swerve one. It's just the one people make more fun
Speaker 3: of because it was the main event. I mean the
Speaker 3: Swerve one was too.
Speaker 1: But yes, but why pitching Moxley and Swerve is a
Speaker 1: redemption for that match is once we're forget the win
Speaker 1: and just they could have a better type of match.
Speaker 1: So my pitch is Swerve right now. If it's not
Speaker 1: Swerve and Hayman, I really have no fucking clue who
Speaker 1: Mocks is working. Do you guys have anybody any.
Speaker 2: Furies or I mean, they could do this whole you know,
Speaker 2: dogs and death Riders jumping everything to build up to
Speaker 2: him versus Jay White. If they decide not.
Speaker 1: To go that far for them to bump into each other,
Speaker 1: and that wouldn't actually be a bad that would be
Speaker 1: a great spot for j White. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Jay White wants to work with the Moxie like you.
Speaker 2: Know, you know, just back, are you ready to bleed
Speaker 2: and die on the mat?
Speaker 3: The death Riders and the Dogs versus the conglomeration and
Speaker 3: Bang Bang Gang anarchy in the arena match.
Speaker 1: I could see something because didn't they do that one
Speaker 1: year Moxy at all in right he worked.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, he did the same in Stampede.
Speaker 3: No, that was like no, that was like that was
Speaker 3: like the first all in yeah, because that was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like the best friends, not the conglomeration yet
Speaker 3: plus Eddie Kingston and the Lucheraus against the BCC.
Speaker 1: I don't think spos is wrong, but that I guess
Speaker 1: for me, it's just like it just feels like Moxley's
Speaker 1: in this mode where he has to have these singles matches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that could be true.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking of like, no, I don't think
Speaker 3: because I don't have any specific like singles.
Speaker 4: I was just trying to think through the roster.
Speaker 3: Of like because all the other people like it'd be
Speaker 3: like cool matches, but it just feels very random, like
Speaker 3: not for an all in. Like if I said like
Speaker 3: Brodie King or something like that.
Speaker 1: When I was like draw like I would love that,
Speaker 1: but do I think.
Speaker 4: And feels like and feels like a gauntlet sot. Yeah,
Speaker 4: even like a gallet.
Speaker 2: Would be gauntlet or he's gonna be doing some more
Speaker 2: stuff with the don Kallis family. He's gonna be in
Speaker 2: the vortex for a while.
Speaker 1: I gonna say, did you have in the same stampede aspas,
Speaker 1: did you have the don Kallis family in there? You
Speaker 1: could add them into somehow and have like a five
Speaker 1: you know at that point if there's no if there's
Speaker 1: a five way, if it's Riders, Dogs, Bang Ban Gang,
Speaker 1: the Conglomeration and the DCF, I'm actually hyped. That's like
Speaker 1: what that's like. That's like twenty five people in a statement.
Speaker 1: I would be so down just.
Speaker 4: To see breaking up the pins and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes it's like a two hour match, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting what happens there with Moxley's just
Speaker 1: like you never really feels like it just depends on
Speaker 1: like what he wakes up, how how does he feeling
Speaker 1: that day? Does he want to play game or like
Speaker 1: like rein over everybody. So, yeah, we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1: There's lots of stuff. Yeah, it's it's exciting to be
Speaker 1: on the bills of Summer Slammon this because there's lots
Speaker 1: of fun, big stuff happening. So and else when you
Speaker 1: talk about before we end this episode.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of the random big news. Not
Speaker 4: really I think I don't think so.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So, like I said, we will be back.
Speaker 1: I like I said, I don't know if there be
Speaker 1: another Gimmick episode in July, because I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: do the two for because that August first show we
Speaker 1: have to review some seven Night one and Redemption, so
Speaker 1: then that could be a big thing because Redemption, of
Speaker 1: course is actually is it the twenty six right?
Speaker 4: Let me look it up.
Speaker 1: It is twenty six. Yeah, Like I just I can't
Speaker 1: wait for football season before you puts these shows on
Speaker 1: Saturday because it just works better for our show because
Speaker 1: we could easy on another Summer Stimes prediction and then
Speaker 1: review that. But that's what I think we'll do is
Speaker 1: probably in the next two weeks. We're probably gonna do
Speaker 1: it my GM if that works out, and then the
Speaker 1: next Gimmicks will be on August first, when we review
Speaker 1: some of some Night one and Redemption and then also
Speaker 1: some of Some Night two, and then we'll kind of
Speaker 1: go from there, so we'll figure out so look up
Speaker 1: for those, yeah, and then we'll be back around that time.
Speaker 1: GM mode. We'll be playing where are we at weeks
Speaker 1: twenty six? To was that forty now or thirty five?
Speaker 1: Because we do the ten weeks now.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so I guess up to thirty five?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we do that, so yeah to me on
Speaker 1: Charted Territory, first time ever. We've never played through. We've
Speaker 1: always ended at twenty five, so now we're going longer.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 1: That's the episode. Thank you Jimma has always for joining me.
Speaker 1: Should be interesting when we get higher up. If you
Speaker 1: guys go on and continue fall, we talk all time.
Speaker 1: The discord is down below. You can join us there
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