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If you like me, when I get in the car

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somebody who actually lived it. Street Speak on ero dot

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What's going on? Party? People?

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Speaker 2: Hey? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic? How are you man doing good?

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Speaker 2: I'm in the studio working away. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The studio is like I always call that the womb.

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That's where everything is created for the future to grow from.

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Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, I mean, this is it. It's

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a It's a beautiful space.

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Speaker 3: And you know the reason the song that we release

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came right here, right from this space.

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Speaker 1: What how is that like for you? Because I know

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that when I step into the studio, I always feel

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like that I leave a chunk of my soul in

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that room. And and a lot of these studios that

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I've been to. I'll go and sign something where they

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don't where they least expected, so that maybe one hundred

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years from now they'll know that I was there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Yeah, it's well.

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Speaker 3: Actually, there was a studio in Hermosa Beach when I

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lived in California years ago that it got torn down,

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and man, it was rough because.

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Speaker 2: It was started by a friend of mine who had.

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Speaker 3: Passed away and I had I had written a lot

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of songs and they spent a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: And you're right, do leave a piec in that space.

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I feel like, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Would have loved to have been a fly on the

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wall when you were putting The Reason together, only because

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I mean were you scratching out any of the lyrics

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at any time, because there's such a vibe about it

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where it's like this lyric leads to this, lyric leads

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to this. I mean, everything leads to the next thing.

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And it's done so well.

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Speaker 3: Man, thanks, No, I mean it started with as simple

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as just doing a little.

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Speaker 2: And and I just started singing. You know.

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Speaker 3: The first thing that ever comes to me is that

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the melody in the head, so do do and just

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kind of loving the the playful you know, romantic kind

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of vibe that it was in. And then my wife,

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of course, she was a fly on the wall on

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the back couch there.

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Speaker 2: She had her friend in town from LA. They were

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both back there.

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Speaker 3: And uh, I don't often allow it, or I shouldn't

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say allow it, but I don't often have I like

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to kind of be in my own creative space.

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Speaker 2: So but it was my wife and her best friend.

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So I had a couple you know, do you like

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this line? Should I change it?

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Speaker 3: And uh, they had some especially Cassandra, she had some

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great suggestions and and so I did tweak a few

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lines where she was you know, she was right.

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Speaker 2: About, Oh I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it when the spouses or the girlfriends who

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are inside the studio with you. Because I the last

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project that I had, I for some stupid reason, was

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tuning out the click track. I couldn't hear it. I mean,

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I mean they've turned it up as loud as possible.

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I couldn't hear it. And my wife was in there

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tapping me on the shoulder the entire time. That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's a nice Yeah. The human metronome, that's nice. I've

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heard it do that. Yeah, do you have such a

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fun process.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever have studio moments like that where it's

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like you've done this a million times, but for some

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reason your mind is checking out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was just talking to someone about

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Speaker 3: So writing, creating, painting this picture, you know, with music,

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is that's the part I get lost in. I'm trying

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my best to not be in the results business or

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think about I get caught caught up sometimes on expectations

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of what I think something should do when it's really

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but that's the part of releasing it is also releasing

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my expectations and just you know, I work, I'll work

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hard to promote and self promote and sing it and

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perform it and.

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Speaker 2: Talk about it, you know like this, but uh, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, it's gonna do what it's gonna do. And I

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just love creating art.

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Speaker 2: I mean that being in.

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Speaker 3: That, Like you said, you know, I just watched a

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friend of mine got to interview Chris Stapleton recently, and

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you just talked talked to him about that exact thing.

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When you're creating that and performing both of those spaces,

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you just you just have this these moments where you're

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kind of out of body and just ye in that

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Speaker 2: So it's uh yeah, and it makes it fun to

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Speaker 3: And and even if it's not, even if it doesn't

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turn out to be a good song, it's still the

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experience of being in the art is wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I always look at a situation like that, and there

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are many times, you know, I have been known to

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go into the bathroom just look at myself in the

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mirror and go, This one wasn't for you, dude, this

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is this is for a completely different generation and a

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group of people. You did what you were supposed to do.

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You showed up, you did everything that you were you know,

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spot on. Now let it go, Yeah, let it go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that the truth? You know that it's

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gotta release it.

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Speaker 1: You know what's great about the reason coming out right

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now and for you to you, for you to even

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be talking about it, is that we are in Valentine's

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Day mode already, and so for you to have this

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song out, I'm going of course he does because he

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understands that it's not a day, it is a season,

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and we are in the season of Valentine's right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I mean we released a holiday song of

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course over the holidays, but it's knowing that that time

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of the year it kind of slows down, and so

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I've got a great team around me, and so the

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idea was, well, let yeah, let's it's a.

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Speaker 2: Love I mean, my last name is love a more.

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So it just made sense. Here we go with this

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big love holiday and we get to drop it right

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right around then. And it's also my birthday, the thirteenth.

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Speaker 3: So I share, oh my god, February thirteenth with Valentine.

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Speaker 2: So that's a good birthday gift too, you know.

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Speaker 1: So is there any possibility of you, you know, because

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I mean you did the Christmas tour and with all

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the holiday songs and stuff, would you ever do something

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like that for Valentine's Day? Because I would go to

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something like that in an intimate surrounding.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I love it. I actually, you know, it's

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funny you mentioned that I've got a friend of mine's plan.

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I'm going to visit my son and lives in outside

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of Miami and going to visit him in March. And

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I've got a friend who's throwing a concert, and he

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asked if I jump up with them and sing a

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love song, and specifically a Gordon Lightfoot old singer songwriter song.

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Speaker 2: And I had that idea. Man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, whenever I do a concert, it is a lot,

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you know, it's all about love, and but yeah, I

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would love to have it just be pure love, two

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you bring up Gordon Lightfoot. Here's a man that's

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been a part of my life ever since the beginning

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of it all, and then and then to to see

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him in concert, it's like it's a you don't know

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what to say, you can't breathe as a fan of music,

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and so many times, Nate, I wonder if that happens

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to you as well. Where people are going. This guy

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has been a part of my life and he's right there. Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you brought that up.

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Speaker 3: I was in Minneapolis playing a show last year and

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and this man from Mexico City had flown from Mexico

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City to Minneapolis just to see the show, waited to

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meet me, and I was blown away.

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Speaker 2: And I kept asking.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, so you're telling me you you got tickets

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and a hotel and all that.

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Speaker 2: Did you have family here? I mean there must have

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been He's like now I just had to meet you.

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Speaker 3: I love your music, and I'm like, wow, it was

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just so humbling and so cool like that. That's what

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it's all about, is when you get that connection, you know,

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with fans.

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Speaker 1: And but you jumped on that from the very beginning,

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because were you not doing cover songs long before the

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individual specialized songs came out? Because I mean to me,

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I mean even Darius Rucker will sit down and talk

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to you about those cover songs. You've got to have

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them because that's your relationship building.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all these like theories on it.

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Speaker 3: And I got forced into it because you know, back

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in two thousand, when I first started playing live and

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a week in bars, and it's like they're like they

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would say, well, it's okay to play a few originals,

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but of course, you know, people are coming here to

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throw back a few drinks. They want to be in

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a familiar place with familiar music.

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Speaker 2: And uh. And at first I tried to do.

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Speaker 3: A little fifty to fifty blend, you know, but we

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did more like a sixty to forty and the music, Yeah,

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you mentioned Gord Lightfoot.

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Speaker 2: I mean so I just went. I covered the songs

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Speaker 3: Dave Matthews was huge then and but also the Gordon Lifefoot's,

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the Neil Diamonds, the things I loved.

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Speaker 2: I just saw.

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Speaker 3: I just saw a song sung Blue a couple of

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nights ago. And then that I finally tuned up. I

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haven't tuned up in a long time on a film,

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and that one, that one got me. You know, he's

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a he's covering Neil Diamond, but it's it's a Neil

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Diamond experience, not a cover band.

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Speaker 1: Well no, no, because I mean don't you didn't you just

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shine the light on a cover band on I mean

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by watching that, because I mean because I mean we've

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all either been one or we've seen one, and and

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they people don't understand how important those bands are to

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our to our soundtracks exactly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a creative criminal.

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Speaker 3: Everything I've heard and absorbed it comes out in my

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music and just like any other artists.

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Speaker 2: So to be able.

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Speaker 3: That's why we released Walking in Memphis. You know, Mark

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Cohne meant a lot to me. There's a there's a

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whole bunch of story behind getting wanting to open for

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him instead of getting to open form, I got to.

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Speaker 2: Drive into the airport. Uh. I sang the song. I

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sang the song on the voice because of that.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's just like paying homage and respect

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to those that have come before and inspired me so much.

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Speaker 2: The reason it comes out of that too.

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Speaker 3: It's like, man, those love songs that I heard, like

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Neil Diamond's a great one, Elvis, I mean, the oldies.

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Speaker 2: It's it's fun to be able to release that.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think it is about those love songs

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only because so many of them are about deeper, darker times.

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love songs is Nazareth love Hurts, And it's like, what

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why am I? Or everybody hurts from rim?

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Speaker 3: It's like, come on, dude, I think that's it that

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answers your question. Like when I heard Roy Orbison sing

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love Hurts, I was like, man, it's the it's the nostalgia,

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it's being an artist there. There is something about I

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used to love being drenched in pain as another inspiration.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, I get in the car.

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Speaker 3: And put on one of those herding love songs, breakup

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songs like my favorite I think of all time that

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hit me the most in the heart was.

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Speaker 2: Bonnie Rait covered it made it huge. But I can't

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make you love me if you does, yes, man, I

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mean that one and I just felt it.

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Speaker 3: On the other side of the the dark ones, though,

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are the ones like the reason where you know, I

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was in all these you know, relationships, not necessarily all bad,

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but they weren't the right one.

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Speaker 2: And so I learned the hard way a lot of

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the time.

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Speaker 3: And then when I stayed single for about three years

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before I met my wife, now who this song's written for.

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Speaker 2: And so this is the other side of like.

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Speaker 3: Thinking that I'll never find I'll always be singing that

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Bonnie Rad song I can't find the right one or

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you know.

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Speaker 2: And then I just had to stop searching that old cliche.

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And then she came along, and that's the first line

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of the song.

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Speaker 3: You know, I waited for so long, but I wasn't

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waiting with like you know, I wasn't waiting towards.

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Speaker 2: The end with with not being healthy about it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm good being single. Maybe I don't

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want a relationship for a while.

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Speaker 2: And so that's how it always goes.

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Speaker 1: They say, please do not move. There's more with Nate

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r We're coming up next. The name of the release

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is the Reason. The soon to be released album Love

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is the reason. We are back with singer songwriter Nate Ermer.

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You know, it seems like that with a lot of

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these love songs or classic songs that we love, they're

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so simple. Do you think that you could go into

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a studio and just put it on four tracks? In

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other words, make it so simple that you could do

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it on four tracks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my favorite.

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Speaker 3: I released an acoustic album a while back, and because

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of that, it would get all these different opinions in

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the industry.

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Speaker 2: Nate, your voice is really strong.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't need a lot of instrumentation, so released a

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lot of stuff that was just vocal guitar.

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Speaker 2: I think my favorite is four tracks. I want to do.

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My buddy has a studio down in Dallas that's huge.

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Speaker 3: It's an old bar that he turned into a studio

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and he has it set up for a live band,

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and so I was like a four person band doing

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a live I want to do the Reason live.

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Speaker 2: And a couple other songs like that because there's an

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intimacy about it.

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Speaker 3: Yep, and Yeah, I love it raw like that, it's

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it's it really brings it out, you know.

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Speaker 1: How do you deal with those moments when when you

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are tinkering around with that guitar and you know that

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you're that you're coming up with the riff that nobody

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else is doing, but yet you know inside your heart

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that's where the vocals go. How do you bridge that

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gap and find peace in your soul knowing that you're

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playing both of those roles.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so much fun. I think.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that one of the first songs I

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learned on on guitar that was really difficult for me

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was a Dave Matthews song. Yeah, and it was that

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that finger pattern that was like and I couldn't figure

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out how he saying over it, and then I and

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then I I wrote something years later that was a

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little complex, But it's just a pattern. And so I

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feel like I used to I'm a nerd for math.

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I feel like music and math are.

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Speaker 2: Very similar, same thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was always good at algebra, geometry, seeing the angles,

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and so music just makes sense to me. Those you

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learn the pattern and then it just all kind of

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I hope that answers your question.

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Speaker 2: By the way, You're a great interviewer. I love the

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way you just you just flow man, great work so much.

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Speaker 1: You know, you bring up math and music together. That's

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why I've always believed inside my heart that that somebody

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should go to math class first, then come to my

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music class. I don't want to talk to you. If

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you came from pe go to math, then come in here,

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because then your rhythm is down because you've worked the numbers.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's brilliant. Actually, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: And then you get someone like my son who's not

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super musical and he wasn't very good at math, and

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I'm like, maybe, yeah, maybe there is a correlation there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So now what is next for you? Because you've got

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an album that's on the way. Love is the reason, correct,

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That is correct? All right, That's that's opening up the

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door for spring.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 1: That's telling me that there's gonna be something happening with

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your feet on a stage somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And you know, I mean I just

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posted about in the spring.

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Speaker 3: You know, we released another song which is about dancing

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in the rain and April showers bring May flowers.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of tied into the season I've got.

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Speaker 3: I just just announced I'm singing the anthem at our

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Denver Nuggets basketball game in March.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think, and then the album will most likely drop

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in May and have another love songs, the focus track,

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another song for my wife of course called all the Time,

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and it's just the other collect the other collect actions

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of songs on this album are will hit on some

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of the toxic past love relationships I'd been in. I

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brought a lot of that toxicity. And then just you

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know life in general. Oh, I got fireworks.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you see that?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 1: That was pretty cool?

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Speaker 2: Huh that was really cool. Wow.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I just to be able to release I

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mean the we released Walking to Memphis, and I love

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the song. It's a cover song obviously homage to Marcone awesome,

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but these are.

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Speaker 2: Me, you know, these are me, And in.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty six, I get to kind of I get

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to put that all over the world and so I

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hope it help people resonate with it, and it gives

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people hope and they feel the love.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, in the studio, you get to be

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the perfectionist. When you're out there live all of a

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sudden you become the person that relinquishes what came from

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that studio. How is it that you're able to bridge

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that gap?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think honestly, I played like five thousand show

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live shows in a twenty year span.

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Speaker 2: I had to.

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Speaker 3: My career was five nights a week in the Midwest

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playing bars.

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Speaker 2: It's all I knew. It's all I did, and man,

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you hone it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, four hours a night, five nights a week,

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and so when I get on a stage today, it's

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the most comfortable place. Just like this room. I mean,

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it doesn't matter where it is, and I just I love.

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Speaker 2: Being in that.

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Speaker 3: It does change a little bit. I mean, you can

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have I try not to do tracks. Once in a while,

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I have. I've done some, you know, a few extra

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things that were on a song, you know, live, but

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people don't really care. They just want to feel the song,

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they want to feel you sing it.

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Speaker 2: And so I just know, I just bring that and

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I leave everything out.

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Speaker 3: On that stage and drums, bass, electric guitar myself.

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Speaker 1: That is so interesting that you're saying that, because I

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mean they're in the latter part of twenty twenty five,

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I went through a period where I eliminated the idea

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that I could go in there and take things out.

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Everything was on a different track by itself. So that

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meant that I had to learn how to be live

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and accept what was in the moment of now without

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having to be the perfectionist who was going to come

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back in and pretend that he knew exactly what he

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was doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean hit.

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Speaker 3: I just was listening to I did a sold out

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show at Miaowolf for a couple of years ago here

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in Denver, and I listened to the recording. We were

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trying to get a live recording with video to release.

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The video didn't work. They didn't film it. The venue

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had this camera and.

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Speaker 2: Someone the miscommunication. It didn't get films.

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Speaker 3: All we had is the audio and listen back to it,

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and yeah, I mean I could go through every song

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and go, oh, I could have done that different.

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Speaker 2: I would have done that.

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Speaker 3: But that's the beauty of It's like, I progress, not perfection.

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I'm always looking to improve. I know that I'm gonna hit.

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I know I'm gonna be flat here and there, but

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that's human.

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Speaker 1: You know, where can people go to find out more

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about what you're doing, especially with this project, You've already

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set us up for the spring of twenty six and

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what we're going to be doing and stuff. So what

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else are you going to be doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Nate amore dot com is the site.

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It's got all the goodies on it. Of course, there's

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a there's the natomore dot com slash links, it's a

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m O R.

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Speaker 2: Two. A lot of people go with Amore. But and

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that's fine too, I think. Yeah. I just I promote

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the song on the daily. I'm writing constantly tonight. I

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have a couple ideas is that keep filtering through my head.

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Speaker 3: So, but the the whole goal is to to make

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to make this successful, resonate with people, get out there

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and tour and support it in the in the spring summer,

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and release another in the fall.

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Speaker 2: You know, That's that's the goal. So but for today,

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I'm just going to keep being in it.

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Speaker 1: Any art, I love it, dude. You got to come

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back to this show anytime in the future. The door

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is always going to be open for you.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to. Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, you're you're smooth, great, great questions.

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Love the uh the art with the feathers there and

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your staff.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: That's my walking stick, man, I do. I do my

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transition walk every day, and you know that's that's what

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it's all about. Because see, I'm here in the Carolinas,

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and I believe that the soil speaks to us through

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our feet, and if we are listening or feeling, then

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we miss out grounding.

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Speaker 3: Man. I love the ground. I'm going The temperature is

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going to be sixty here this week in Denver. I'm

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going up to my favorite mountain hike, and I too

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will be getting in the bare feet and getting the

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feet on the dirt connecting.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: That's it man. People always ask you, where's your creativity

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come from? Well, you know what, Let's go for a walk.

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It starts there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?

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Speaker 3: Okay, sir, Hey, thank you so much for your time

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and the opportunity to speak with you.