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Speaker 2: Hey? How are you?
Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic? How are you man doing good?
Speaker 2: I'm in the studio working away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The studio is like I always call that the womb.
That's where everything is created for the future to grow from.
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, I mean, this is it. It's
a It's a beautiful space.
Speaker 3: And you know the reason the song that we release
came right here, right from this space.
Speaker 1: What how is that like for you? Because I know
that when I step into the studio, I always feel
like that I leave a chunk of my soul in
that room. And and a lot of these studios that
I've been to. I'll go and sign something where they
don't where they least expected, so that maybe one hundred
years from now they'll know that I was there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Yeah, it's well.
Speaker 3: Actually, there was a studio in Hermosa Beach when I
lived in California years ago that it got torn down,
and man, it was rough because.
Speaker 2: It was started by a friend of mine who had.
Speaker 3: Passed away and I had I had written a lot
of songs and they spent a lot of time.
Speaker 2: And you're right, do leave a piec in that space.
I feel like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Would have loved to have been a fly on the
wall when you were putting The Reason together, only because
I mean were you scratching out any of the lyrics
at any time, because there's such a vibe about it
where it's like this lyric leads to this, lyric leads
to this. I mean, everything leads to the next thing.
And it's done so well.
Speaker 3: Man, thanks, No, I mean it started with as simple
as just doing a little.
Speaker 2: And and I just started singing. You know.
Speaker 3: The first thing that ever comes to me is that
the melody in the head, so do do and just
kind of loving the the playful you know, romantic kind
of vibe that it was in. And then my wife,
of course, she was a fly on the wall on
the back couch there.
Speaker 2: She had her friend in town from LA. They were
both back there.
Speaker 3: And uh, I don't often allow it, or I shouldn't
say allow it, but I don't often have I like
to kind of be in my own creative space.
Speaker 2: So but it was my wife and her best friend.
So I had a couple you know, do you like
this line? Should I change it?
Speaker 3: And uh, they had some especially Cassandra, she had some
great suggestions and and so I did tweak a few
lines where she was you know, she was right.
Speaker 2: About, Oh I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it when the spouses or the girlfriends who
are inside the studio with you. Because I the last
project that I had, I for some stupid reason, was
tuning out the click track. I couldn't hear it. I mean,
I mean they've turned it up as loud as possible.
I couldn't hear it. And my wife was in there
tapping me on the shoulder the entire time. That's it.
Speaker 2: That's a nice Yeah. The human metronome, that's nice. I've
heard it do that. Yeah, do you have such a
fun process.
Speaker 1: Do you ever have studio moments like that where it's
like you've done this a million times, but for some
reason your mind is checking out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was just talking to someone about
that today.
Speaker 3: So writing, creating, painting this picture, you know, with music,
is that's the part I get lost in. I'm trying
my best to not be in the results business or
think about I get caught caught up sometimes on expectations
of what I think something should do when it's really
but that's the part of releasing it is also releasing
my expectations and just you know, I work, I'll work
hard to promote and self promote and sing it and
perform it and.
Speaker 2: Talk about it, you know like this, but uh, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's gonna do what it's gonna do. And I
just love creating art.
Speaker 2: I mean that being in.
Speaker 3: That, Like you said, you know, I just watched a
friend of mine got to interview Chris Stapleton recently, and
you just talked talked to him about that exact thing.
When you're creating that and performing both of those spaces,
you just you just have this these moments where you're
kind of out of body and just ye in that
zone in that and uh I love that.
Speaker 2: So it's uh yeah, and it makes it fun to
be in here.
Speaker 3: And and even if it's not, even if it doesn't
turn out to be a good song, it's still the
experience of being in the art is wonderful.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I always look at a situation like that, and there
are many times, you know, I have been known to
go into the bathroom just look at myself in the
mirror and go, This one wasn't for you, dude, this
is this is for a completely different generation and a
group of people. You did what you were supposed to do.
You showed up, you did everything that you were you know,
spot on. Now let it go, Yeah, let it go.
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that the truth? You know that it's
gotta release it.
Speaker 1: You know what's great about the reason coming out right
now and for you to you, for you to even
be talking about it, is that we are in Valentine's
Day mode already, and so for you to have this
song out, I'm going of course he does because he
understands that it's not a day, it is a season,
and we are in the season of Valentine's right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I mean we released a holiday song of
course over the holidays, but it's knowing that that time
of the year it kind of slows down, and so
I've got a great team around me, and so the
idea was, well, let yeah, let's it's a.
Speaker 2: Love I mean, my last name is love a more.
So it just made sense. Here we go with this
big love holiday and we get to drop it right
right around then. And it's also my birthday, the thirteenth.
Speaker 3: So I share, oh my god, February thirteenth with Valentine.
Speaker 2: So that's a good birthday gift too, you know.
Speaker 1: So is there any possibility of you, you know, because
I mean you did the Christmas tour and with all
the holiday songs and stuff, would you ever do something
like that for Valentine's Day? Because I would go to
something like that in an intimate surrounding.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I love it. I actually, you know, it's
funny you mentioned that I've got a friend of mine's plan.
I'm going to visit my son and lives in outside
of Miami and going to visit him in March. And
I've got a friend who's throwing a concert, and he
asked if I jump up with them and sing a
love song, and specifically a Gordon Lightfoot old singer songwriter song.
Speaker 2: And I had that idea. Man.
Speaker 3: I mean, whenever I do a concert, it is a lot,
you know, it's all about love, and but yeah, I
would love to have it just be pure love, two
hours of it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Wow, you bring up Gordon Lightfoot. Here's a man that's
been a part of my life ever since the beginning
of it all, and then and then to to see
him in concert, it's like it's a you don't know
what to say, you can't breathe as a fan of music,
and so many times, Nate, I wonder if that happens
to you as well. Where people are going. This guy
has been a part of my life and he's right there. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you brought that up.
Speaker 3: I was in Minneapolis playing a show last year and
and this man from Mexico City had flown from Mexico
City to Minneapolis just to see the show, waited to
meet me, and I was blown away.
Speaker 2: And I kept asking.
Speaker 3: I'm like, so you're telling me you you got tickets
and a hotel and all that.
Speaker 2: Did you have family here? I mean there must have
been He's like now I just had to meet you.
Speaker 3: I love your music, and I'm like, wow, it was
just so humbling and so cool like that. That's what
it's all about, is when you get that connection, you know,
with fans.
Speaker 1: And but you jumped on that from the very beginning,
because were you not doing cover songs long before the
individual specialized songs came out? Because I mean to me,
I mean even Darius Rucker will sit down and talk
to you about those cover songs. You've got to have
them because that's your relationship building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all these like theories on it.
Speaker 3: And I got forced into it because you know, back
in two thousand, when I first started playing live and
a lot, it was you know, four or five nights
a week in bars, and it's like they're like they
would say, well, it's okay to play a few originals,
but of course, you know, people are coming here to
throw back a few drinks. They want to be in
a familiar place with familiar music.
Speaker 2: And uh. And at first I tried to do.
Speaker 3: A little fifty to fifty blend, you know, but we
did more like a sixty to forty and the music, Yeah,
you mentioned Gord Lightfoot.
Speaker 2: I mean so I just went. I covered the songs
that were popular at the time.
Speaker 3: Dave Matthews was huge then and but also the Gordon Lifefoot's,
the Neil Diamonds, the things I loved.
Speaker 2: I just saw.
Speaker 3: I just saw a song sung Blue a couple of
nights ago. And then that I finally tuned up. I
haven't tuned up in a long time on a film,
and that one, that one got me. You know, he's
a he's covering Neil Diamond, but it's it's a Neil
Diamond experience, not a cover band.
Speaker 1: Well no, no, because I mean don't you didn't you just
shine the light on a cover band on I mean
by watching that, because I mean because I mean we've
all either been one or we've seen one, and and
they people don't understand how important those bands are to
our to our soundtracks exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a creative criminal.
Speaker 3: Everything I've heard and absorbed it comes out in my
music and just like any other artists.
Speaker 2: So to be able.
Speaker 3: That's why we released Walking in Memphis. You know, Mark
Cohne meant a lot to me. There's a there's a
whole bunch of story behind getting wanting to open for
him instead of getting to open form, I got to.
Speaker 2: Drive into the airport. Uh. I sang the song. I
sang the song on the voice because of that.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's just like paying homage and respect
to those that have come before and inspired me so much.
Speaker 2: The reason it comes out of that too.
Speaker 3: It's like, man, those love songs that I heard, like
Neil Diamond's a great one, Elvis, I mean, the oldies.
Speaker 2: It's it's fun to be able to release that.
Speaker 1: Why do you think it is about those love songs
only because so many of them are about deeper, darker times.
I mean it's like one of my all time favorite
love songs is Nazareth love Hurts, And it's like, what
why am I? Or everybody hurts from rim?
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, dude, I think that's it that
answers your question. Like when I heard Roy Orbison sing
love Hurts, I was like, man, it's the it's the nostalgia,
it's being an artist there. There is something about I
used to love being drenched in pain as another inspiration.
Speaker 2: And so you know, I get in the car.
Speaker 3: And put on one of those herding love songs, breakup
songs like my favorite I think of all time that
hit me the most in the heart was.
Speaker 2: Bonnie Rait covered it made it huge. But I can't
make you love me if you does, yes, man, I
mean that one and I just felt it.
Speaker 3: On the other side of the the dark ones, though,
are the ones like the reason where you know, I
was in all these you know, relationships, not necessarily all bad,
but they weren't the right one.
Speaker 2: And so I learned the hard way a lot of
the time.
Speaker 3: And then when I stayed single for about three years
before I met my wife, now who this song's written for.
Speaker 2: And so this is the other side of like.
Speaker 3: Thinking that I'll never find I'll always be singing that
Bonnie Rad song I can't find the right one or
you know.
Speaker 2: And then I just had to stop searching that old cliche.
And then she came along, and that's the first line
of the song.
Speaker 3: You know, I waited for so long, but I wasn't
waiting with like you know, I wasn't waiting towards.
Speaker 2: The end with with not being healthy about it.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm good being single. Maybe I don't
want a relationship for a while.
Speaker 2: And so that's how it always goes.
Speaker 1: They say, please do not move. There's more with Nate
r We're coming up next. The name of the release
is the Reason. The soon to be released album Love
is the reason. We are back with singer songwriter Nate Ermer.
You know, it seems like that with a lot of
these love songs or classic songs that we love, they're
so simple. Do you think that you could go into
a studio and just put it on four tracks? In
other words, make it so simple that you could do
it on four tracks?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my favorite.
Speaker 3: I released an acoustic album a while back, and because
of that, it would get all these different opinions in
the industry.
Speaker 2: Nate, your voice is really strong.
Speaker 3: It doesn't need a lot of instrumentation, so released a
lot of stuff that was just vocal guitar.
Speaker 2: I think my favorite is four tracks. I want to do.
My buddy has a studio down in Dallas that's huge.
Speaker 3: It's an old bar that he turned into a studio
and he has it set up for a live band,
and so I was like a four person band doing
a live I want to do the Reason live.
Speaker 2: And a couple other songs like that because there's an
intimacy about it.
Speaker 3: Yep, and Yeah, I love it raw like that, it's
it's it really brings it out, you know.
Speaker 1: How do you deal with those moments when when you
are tinkering around with that guitar and you know that
you're that you're coming up with the riff that nobody
else is doing, but yet you know inside your heart
that's where the vocals go. How do you bridge that
gap and find peace in your soul knowing that you're
playing both of those roles.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so much fun. I think.
Speaker 3: Do you remember that one of the first songs I
learned on on guitar that was really difficult for me
was a Dave Matthews song. Yeah, and it was that
that finger pattern that was like and I couldn't figure
out how he saying over it, and then I and
then I I wrote something years later that was a
little complex, But it's just a pattern. And so I
feel like I used to I'm a nerd for math.
I feel like music and math are.
Speaker 2: Very similar, same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was always good at algebra, geometry, seeing the angles,
and so music just makes sense to me. Those you
learn the pattern and then it just all kind of
I hope that answers your question.
Speaker 2: By the way, You're a great interviewer. I love the
way you just you just flow man, great work so much.
Speaker 1: You know, you bring up math and music together. That's
why I've always believed inside my heart that that somebody
should go to math class first, then come to my
music class. I don't want to talk to you. If
you came from pe go to math, then come in here,
because then your rhythm is down because you've worked the numbers.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's brilliant. Actually, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And then you get someone like my son who's not
super musical and he wasn't very good at math, and
I'm like, maybe, yeah, maybe there is a correlation there.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So now what is next for you? Because you've got
an album that's on the way. Love is the reason, correct,
That is correct? All right, That's that's opening up the
door for spring.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: That's telling me that there's gonna be something happening with
your feet on a stage somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And you know, I mean I just
posted about in the spring.
Speaker 3: You know, we released another song which is about dancing
in the rain and April showers bring May flowers.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of tied into the season I've got.
Speaker 3: I just just announced I'm singing the anthem at our
Denver Nuggets basketball game in March.
Speaker 2: And then yeah.
Speaker 3: I think, and then the album will most likely drop
in May and have another love songs, the focus track,
another song for my wife of course called all the Time,
and it's just the other collect the other collect actions
of songs on this album are will hit on some
of the toxic past love relationships I'd been in. I
brought a lot of that toxicity. And then just you
know life in general. Oh, I got fireworks.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you see that?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: That was pretty cool?
Speaker 2: Huh that was really cool. Wow.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just to be able to release I
mean the we released Walking to Memphis, and I love
the song. It's a cover song obviously homage to Marcone awesome,
but these are.
Speaker 2: Me, you know, these are me, And in.
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty six, I get to kind of I get
to put that all over the world and so I
hope it help people resonate with it, and it gives
people hope and they feel the love.
Speaker 1: You know, well, in the studio, you get to be
the perfectionist. When you're out there live all of a
sudden you become the person that relinquishes what came from
that studio. How is it that you're able to bridge
that gap?
Speaker 3: Well, I think honestly, I played like five thousand show
live shows in a twenty year span.
Speaker 2: I had to.
Speaker 3: My career was five nights a week in the Midwest
playing bars.
Speaker 2: It's all I knew. It's all I did, and man,
you hone it.
Speaker 3: I mean, four hours a night, five nights a week,
and so when I get on a stage today, it's
the most comfortable place. Just like this room. I mean,
it doesn't matter where it is, and I just I love.
Speaker 2: Being in that.
Speaker 3: It does change a little bit. I mean, you can
have I try not to do tracks. Once in a while,
I have. I've done some, you know, a few extra
things that were on a song, you know, live, but
people don't really care. They just want to feel the song,
they want to feel you sing it.
Speaker 2: And so I just know, I just bring that and
I leave everything out.
Speaker 3: On that stage and drums, bass, electric guitar myself.
Speaker 1: That is so interesting that you're saying that, because I
mean they're in the latter part of twenty twenty five,
I went through a period where I eliminated the idea
that I could go in there and take things out.
Everything was on a different track by itself. So that
meant that I had to learn how to be live
and accept what was in the moment of now without
having to be the perfectionist who was going to come
back in and pretend that he knew exactly what he
was doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean hit.
Speaker 3: I just was listening to I did a sold out
show at Miaowolf for a couple of years ago here
in Denver, and I listened to the recording. We were
trying to get a live recording with video to release.
The video didn't work. They didn't film it. The venue
had this camera and.
Speaker 2: Someone the miscommunication. It didn't get films.
Speaker 3: All we had is the audio and listen back to it,
and yeah, I mean I could go through every song
and go, oh, I could have done that different.
Speaker 2: I would have done that.
Speaker 3: But that's the beauty of It's like, I progress, not perfection.
I'm always looking to improve. I know that I'm gonna hit.
I know I'm gonna be flat here and there, but
that's human.
Speaker 1: You know, where can people go to find out more
about what you're doing, especially with this project, You've already
set us up for the spring of twenty six and
what we're going to be doing and stuff. So what
else are you going to be doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Nate amore dot com is the site.
It's got all the goodies on it. Of course, there's
a there's the natomore dot com slash links, it's a
m O R.
Speaker 2: Two. A lot of people go with Amore. But and
that's fine too, I think. Yeah. I just I promote
the song on the daily. I'm writing constantly tonight. I
have a couple ideas is that keep filtering through my head.
Speaker 3: So, but the the whole goal is to to make
to make this successful, resonate with people, get out there
and tour and support it in the in the spring summer,
and release another in the fall.
Speaker 2: You know, That's that's the goal. So but for today,
I'm just going to keep being in it.
Speaker 1: Any art, I love it, dude. You got to come
back to this show anytime in the future. The door
is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2: I'd love to. Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, you're you're smooth, great, great questions.
Love the uh the art with the feathers there and
your staff.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: That's my walking stick, man, I do. I do my
transition walk every day, and you know that's that's what
it's all about. Because see, I'm here in the Carolinas,
and I believe that the soil speaks to us through
our feet, and if we are listening or feeling, then
we miss out grounding.
Speaker 3: Man. I love the ground. I'm going The temperature is
going to be sixty here this week in Denver. I'm
going up to my favorite mountain hike, and I too
will be getting in the bare feet and getting the
feet on the dirt connecting.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: That's it man. People always ask you, where's your creativity
come from? Well, you know what, Let's go for a walk.
It starts there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 3: Okay, sir, Hey, thank you so much for your time
and the opportunity to speak with you.