Speaker 1: Okay, So that remember there was the it was like
Speaker 1: a TikTok video that showed and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you were able to open it or not, but it
Speaker 1: was it was like it showed that there was a
Speaker 1: like water underneath the water. So it was in it
Speaker 1: was in the Gulf coast, and it had all those
Speaker 1: like Brian like uh, I don't know what they were,
Speaker 1: like clams or something, and then if an ill or
Speaker 1: something went into it, it would come out and was
Speaker 1: like almost die. It would get in like an electro shock,
Speaker 1: and it was like why is there water underneath the water.
Speaker 1: And it was supposedly the guy who tried to get
Speaker 1: his camera to go in it like it would just
Speaker 1: bounce back up. It was like too buoygnant. So maybe
Speaker 1: think he was saying it was just like such brine
Speaker 1: or so salty that it just didn't make any sense
Speaker 1: and that it's such an anomalous thing. And I that
Speaker 1: is also in that that's also in the Gulf, Like
Speaker 1: there's some weird stuff about the Golf. They do a
Speaker 1: lot of drilling for oil in the Gulf, but they
Speaker 1: it's murky water, it's discouraged. People kind of look at
Speaker 1: it like, eh, like the golf on Mexico is cool,
Speaker 1: but the golf in the US is kind of looked
Speaker 1: at as like.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like a dead zone now, that's what they
Speaker 2: call it. Yeah, because it's been well, I mean, all
Speaker 2: that well, all the petroleum has really environmentally hurt the area.
Speaker 2: But anyway, are you saying that there's just like a
Speaker 2: lot more going on down there even now?
Speaker 1: No, I think there's that's where there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: hidden pyramids and stuff, like, I think that's I think
Speaker 1: that's where New York City was hit, the New York
Speaker 1: City of the Megaliths, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, I mean then also, you know, do
Speaker 2: you think that it was a.
Speaker 1: Meteorite that I think it was a nuke?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I was wondering. Yeah, like an
Speaker 2: intercollect war or something. Yeah yeah, or started even on Earth,
Speaker 2: who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, like it adds up with
Speaker 1: the you know, multiple people talking in different ways about
Speaker 1: like Lumeria and Atlantis having a a battle with each other.
Speaker 1: There's there's a couple of there's some other place in
Speaker 1: Pakistan that shows evidence of an ancient nuclear war. I
Speaker 1: think there was part of me wonders if yeah, if
Speaker 1: there wasn't huge nuclear wars in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like within within Earth, so not coming from.
Speaker 1: Outside of it. Yeah, like I think within within advanced
Speaker 1: people that lived here at some point, like.
Speaker 2: That's what probably maybe that could have been possibly what.
Speaker 1: Could have changed the geology so much during that point. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing because I always the younger driest period
Speaker 1: lasts from twenty five hundred to eleven one thousand, six
Speaker 1: hundred years ago, So it's what is that like a
Speaker 1: nine hundred or is that an eleven hundred whatever, it's
Speaker 1: it's like a thousand year period, Okay, And there's like
Speaker 1: they claim that there's like multiple meteorites that struck this
Speaker 1: and that during that thousand year period, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense to me. One giant meteorite okay, But why
Speaker 1: why would you have Earth Earth changing geologically changing meteorites
Speaker 1: that clustered in a thousand year period, Because they don't
Speaker 1: claim that they all happen at once, And I think
Speaker 1: you would much more be likely to convince me that
Speaker 1: there was a thousand year war.
Speaker 2: Yeah then yeah, it's pretty long war though, but anyway,
Speaker 2: it would it's we've had we've had we've had long
Speaker 2: wars in the past.
Speaker 1: Long wars, yeah, and maybe longer lived.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I always I don't know, so what time
Speaker 2: time was that because.
Speaker 1: Okay, so apparently this is like BC, right or so
Speaker 1: this is this was the younger dryas is supposed to
Speaker 1: be twelve five hundred years ago to eleven thousand, six
Speaker 1: hundred years ago, like that was the period in which
Speaker 1: there was.
Speaker 2: And so that may have been the great that that
Speaker 2: may have been when the Great Flood happened.
Speaker 1: I think it was when the Great Flood happened, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was also there was there's in the US
Speaker 1: and I don't know where else I'll you can find this,
Speaker 1: but like one of the there's the younger there's a
Speaker 1: thick black strata line that that it can be found
Speaker 1: geologically when you're digging, and it's you know, I talked
Speaker 1: about this with my friend Jindeo, who's an archaeologist, and
Speaker 1: she was just saying that it's you know, it's like thick,
Speaker 1: it's greasy, and it's like it had to be something
Speaker 1: severely burning for a long time. It wasn't just like
Speaker 1: a you know, you put out the fire and it
Speaker 1: was there no it's like something scorched the earth. And
Speaker 1: so I mean a lot of people postulate that, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a meteorite or it's a com or whatever, but
Speaker 1: I'm kind of gone, no, it's way darker than that.
Speaker 1: It had to be to be as prevalent and to
Speaker 1: be as evenly burned everywhere. Like it's not like it's
Speaker 1: just like, oh, just like right around where this comet
Speaker 1: would have struck it. It's you know, it's like a
Speaker 1: Mount Saint Helen's kind of thing, but like on a
Speaker 1: million lines of crack. So that's kind of like what
Speaker 1: had to happen to create that thick of a black
Speaker 1: line that that that's in the geological record, So there
Speaker 1: was That.
Speaker 2: Kind of makes sense. But if that did happen, then
Speaker 2: that would certainly push up like a lot of water
Speaker 2: and push down earth or land masses.
Speaker 1: Who knows what that Maybe it was a super volcano too,
Speaker 1: Like maybe you could have had to make a comet
Speaker 1: strike and then you had the super volcano blow like
Speaker 1: Yellowstone could have blown or something.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, well that's true, but I feel like geologically,
Speaker 2: don't you think there would be some other clear evidence
Speaker 2: but that that happened or not.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there's there really is that we don't even
Speaker 1: talk about. Like, Okay, there's this place that I just
Speaker 1: learned about, and it's called Kilmer uh k e m
Speaker 1: m e R. It's where J. C. Penny started. It's
Speaker 1: this little town in Wyoming, and they have all this
Speaker 1: called lithographic limestone or something, and it's they used to
Speaker 1: make lithograph paper or or whatever stones for copying and
Speaker 1: stuff at printing presses out of this kind of stone.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's a it's like a shell where
Speaker 1: it you can like whack it with the hammer and
Speaker 1: it breaks almost looks like like breaks almost like paper
Speaker 1: breaks in sheets. And there's an entire lake that was
Speaker 1: covered and there's there's They've found horses, they found weird
Speaker 1: monkeys that don't exist anymore. They've found steam rays, they've
Speaker 1: found all kinds of fishes. You can get there. You
Speaker 1: can find jellyfishes, stuff that's like very bizarrely to my
Speaker 1: mind's eye, saltwater aquatic animals, huge palm treaty, all this stuff. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you can go there and you can look. You can
Speaker 1: do fishing out there, which is your fishing for fossils,
Speaker 1: and you're one hundred and you can go for one
Speaker 1: day and you're guaranteed they say to at least find
Speaker 1: sixty fish in one day, and then if you find
Speaker 1: if you find it, like the Smithsonian owns all the
Speaker 1: other plateaus that this is a very convenient that the
Speaker 1: Smithsonian breaks into all this. I just very I just
Speaker 1: learned about this through my geology club. It's it wasn't
Speaker 1: something I had heard about before, but yeah, like there
Speaker 1: is like and then when you talk to the people
Speaker 1: at the geology club, they're like, oh, I just like settled,
Speaker 1: like the settlements would have settled over millions and millions
Speaker 1: of years, and like that's how it's happened. I'm like,
Speaker 1: no fish get eaten. They don't just like get perfectly preserved.
Speaker 1: They don't float to the bottom of the lake and
Speaker 1: then their entire skeletal system and everything is just one
Speaker 1: hundred percent preserved. But that's not how That's not how
Speaker 1: the ecosystem of lakes or oceans or anything works. Like
Speaker 1: you know, like like dead bodies get eaten by stuff.
Speaker 1: So like it had had have been a disaster.
Speaker 2: It was fossilized, right, it.
Speaker 1: Was fossilized, instantly, perfectly preserved, and in fact, probably half
Speaker 1: of these behalf of the people in the country probably
Speaker 1: have a little tiny fish fossil from this place and
Speaker 1: don't even know that that's what they're looking at. But
Speaker 1: I think that that would have been something that would
Speaker 1: have been maybe a super volcano going off and then
Speaker 1: all the sediment going and killing everything and like having
Speaker 1: giant mud slides, and you know, because like one of
Speaker 1: the guys was arguing that, no, it would have had
Speaker 1: to have been like there would have been massive like
Speaker 1: mud slides that would have gone into the lake. So
Speaker 1: that's how it would have taken horses or you know,
Speaker 1: it just could have been really heavy snowfall from the
Speaker 1: year before. I'm like, horses are not that stupid that
Speaker 1: they're gonna not be able to you know, that they're
Speaker 1: going to get in line with that on more. And
Speaker 1: there's like the three or four horses in this one
Speaker 1: place that have been found, so it's I don't know, anyway,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of inconsistencies with all this, but to me,
Speaker 1: it just strikes me of, Okay, some kind of catastrophic
Speaker 1: instant event and I don't know, and I and I
Speaker 1: feel like I do ascribe to natural disasters, yes, but
Speaker 1: this is it's far more reaching than just one little area.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So you think that maybe multiple wars were
Speaker 2: happening or one more multiple years and with the technology, well,
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot, there's a lot.
Speaker 1: Of and and also the time frame is like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, they could have all been in one year.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's so hard to tell the time frames. The time
Speaker 2: frames will always get us confused, I think. But anyway,
Speaker 2: if it was the same time as the fall of Atlantis,
Speaker 2: there was a lot out of literature that says the
Speaker 2: Atlanta Atlantis fell because of the because of its technology
Speaker 2: and its misuse of technology based on these wars that
Speaker 2: were going on, So that would be consistent with that
Speaker 2: theory anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's interesting in that Book of Thoth
Speaker 1: that like it was said something about how when Atlanta's
Speaker 1: fell like they were, they were still they had enough
Speaker 1: time to get their their things.
Speaker 2: It wasn't yeah, yeah, well some people did.
Speaker 1: Some people did, I don't think, yeah, maybe not everybody,
Speaker 1: but not everybody.
Speaker 2: And then you know, then was that the same book
Speaker 2: that said some people went below the water. Some people
Speaker 2: went like below the earth, and then I guess some
Speaker 2: people actually were able to stay. Is that the story.
Speaker 1: Well, some people migrated to memory, some people migrated to
Speaker 1: some people just perish. Yeah, most people just sunk with
Speaker 1: the underneath the water. But yeah, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: have to finish the book. But then also it's it's
Speaker 1: interesting because I recently got into this this Irish like
Speaker 1: legend of the Tuatha de Danin, which are a group
Speaker 1: of fay so fairy people, but they were like humans.
Speaker 1: They didn't have wings, and they were big like humans,
Speaker 1: but they have long life and they live and I think,
Speaker 1: like from my understanding, they're associated with, or they can
Speaker 1: be associated with, the High Brazil. High Brazil is like
Speaker 1: an island that is potentially only be able to be
Speaker 1: seen off of certain coasts of Ireland like once every
Speaker 1: four years, like on a leap year, or at maybe
Speaker 1: a certain time of year. I'm not exactly sure what
Speaker 1: the what the thing is, but I've heard the they
Speaker 1: could be associated with living there. And then also the
Speaker 1: Tuatha de dan and are there's a bunch of legend
Speaker 1: about how they actually went underground to live underground and
Speaker 1: then they did take wives with humans, and so there's
Speaker 1: some there's some crazy like legends about that, and I
Speaker 1: think that's where a lot of the leprechaun stuff comes
Speaker 1: in too. So there's there's a lot of weird stuff
Speaker 1: that you kind of go where does myth like how
Speaker 1: coups Like?
Speaker 2: I would love to get that compiled information of like
Speaker 2: myths and and creation stories from around the world in
Speaker 2: different cultures and just get to the common denominators about
Speaker 2: all of them, right, Yeah, what's all of them? Because
Speaker 2: the Great Flood is obviously one that's in many of them,
Speaker 2: so something happened there for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I'm not really sure. I mean,
Speaker 2: some people there's like you know, legends of people coming
Speaker 2: out of the ground, were from from tree roots, from
Speaker 2: inside the earth coming to make people there. They're of
Speaker 2: course Native Americans with star people coming down. So like
Speaker 2: there's lots of creation stories or there is a world.
Speaker 2: So there's also like the fifth world, the fifth Sun.
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Does that actually mean an actual
Speaker 2: change of suns with our star or does that mean
Speaker 2: that there was a rise in the fall of a
Speaker 2: civilization or something like Atlantis and everything fell and I.
Speaker 1: Think that, like the changing of the Sun isn't as
Speaker 1: crazy as as you might think, considering that, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like look at the dinosaurs. Dinosaurs had to live in
Speaker 1: a completely different air quality than we live in. They
Speaker 1: had to live in a completely different something allowed their
Speaker 1: plants to be huge, huge, huge.
Speaker 2: And their bodies going on right now, there's stuff going
Speaker 2: on right now that there are people who think that
Speaker 2: the Sun has been replaced by another temporary sun because
Speaker 2: something happened to our original sun. That's why the Sun
Speaker 2: looks different now than it has in the past. Like
Speaker 2: the Sun is doing weird things and the skies are
Speaker 2: doing weird things, and there's like people who think that
Speaker 2: that's because there's actually like a false sun there.
Speaker 1: Or well that Scarfire tour lady that had the Time
Speaker 1: Chronicle people on my podcast, and they did this thing
Speaker 1: about she looks at the SOHO, which is like the
Speaker 1: like she looks at images of the Sun and it
Speaker 1: takes a picture every twelve minutes of the Sun, and
Speaker 1: she'll look at like weird anomalies, like like one of
Speaker 1: the ones she showcased was it was the exact same
Speaker 1: coronal mass ejection they put up on like like twenty
Speaker 1: four hours later, but they're identical, like you can mirror them,
Speaker 1: so it takes a picture every twelve minutes. And then
Speaker 1: so like one it would be like it would have
Speaker 1: a coronal mass ejection, and then the next one twelve
Speaker 1: minutes later would just be just fine, like nothing happened.
Speaker 1: And these coronal mass ejections are like bigger, like you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times bigger than the Earth itself,
Speaker 1: but they're these huge giant things that don't go away
Speaker 1: in twelve minutes, you know. And then she also showed
Speaker 1: like the one another one I think in February, if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, there was a beam of like a
Speaker 1: just like a big giant beam of maybe light or something,
Speaker 1: I don't know, a plasma beam that was one hundred
Speaker 1: percent straight coming out of the Sun and it would
Speaker 1: have been over over however, million millions of like seven
Speaker 1: million miles long or something like that, which why would
Speaker 1: there be one hundred percent straight seven million mile beam
Speaker 1: like there there was something something is going on with
Speaker 1: her son.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something's going on with the sign I think so too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And also our moon for that matter, is just our
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're in assimilation. Yeah, yeah, sometimes I do think,
Speaker 1: like like I said, I said, maybe we're in assimilation.
Speaker 1: We're like in the Truman Show and they're like, Truman,
Speaker 1: you're afraid of water, don't the ocean? Right?
Speaker 2: Exactly? Exactly? Oh my gosh, it's a scary thought. But well,
Speaker 2: and it could be happening at a solar system level
Speaker 2: where this is not just happening with Earth, so you
Speaker 2: we really would have no idea. Yeah, we wouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to get out of it to figure it out.
Speaker 2: How would we know?
Speaker 1: But then that makes me go back to the hole,
Speaker 1: like are we in a prisoner planet?
Speaker 2: In the prisoner plan? I know, of course there's always
Speaker 2: that question. We'll never really know that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe we will, maybe we will get that answer. I
Speaker 2: don't know. But this time, you know, I you know,
Speaker 2: I'm always like I don't want to forget, Like this time,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. Maybe I will forget, But
Speaker 2: I feel like we're all going to closer to not forgetting.
Speaker 1: We're definitely closer. It's not forgetting than we ever have been.
Speaker 1: That I can remember that even though I can't remember.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's what I intuitively feel that I do.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're getting closer to remembering than we
Speaker 2: have before.
Speaker 1: And I do have like this like you know, this
Speaker 1: hope that like we're gonna have some amazing knowledge put
Speaker 1: on us before we die. I feel like I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think there is an end to knowledge. I
Speaker 1: don't think there ever is, like, oh, we know it
Speaker 1: all and that's that impossible, even though I like, like
Speaker 1: I think maybe it wasn't the Emerald tablet where it
Speaker 1: talked about these the seven basically gods. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they are, but that they they they come from infinity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Manti, but they come from like
Speaker 1: and like I guess thoughts that asks them like where
Speaker 1: they came from or where they lived, and they said,
Speaker 1: we come from where infinity ends. And I was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like, what do you mean
Speaker 1: infinity ends? What does that mean? And like and and
Speaker 1: it said like, yes, even infinity has an end, and
Speaker 1: I thought, whoa, that's h and the plot thickens. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's it's like they asked elon Musk. It's like,
Speaker 1: what would you what would you ask uh God? Or
Speaker 1: I don't remember what. And he was just like, or
Speaker 1: what would you ask an alien? Or what would you ask?
Speaker 1: I can't remember what they asked him, but he basically said,
Speaker 1: what's outside of the simulation? And like, that's that's what
Speaker 1: he would ask. I don't know if it was a
Speaker 1: higher being, a god or an alien or something, but
Speaker 1: like at somebody something that would have the knowledge, so
Speaker 1: that he like that was the question he would ask,
Speaker 1: would be like, what's outside of the simulation? And I
Speaker 1: kind of thought about that myself, and I'm like, because
Speaker 1: even if you if you think about whatever the universe
Speaker 1: is or is it, and if we're as above so
Speaker 1: blow right, even if we're like this ginormous, endless universe,
Speaker 1: what's the as above so below for that?
Speaker 2: Well that's that. I think those are ongoing questions. Will
Speaker 2: ever be able to really figure out for sure, But
Speaker 2: I I and I always think like, what, Okay, so
Speaker 2: we have these infinite potentials and infinite parallel timelines or
Speaker 2: even a timelines not parallel, but so what does that
Speaker 2: really what does that even really mean? Okay, maybe that's
Speaker 2: within our system, but we've talked about this before, like
Speaker 2: can you ever get out of the whole thing. How
Speaker 2: do you just ever get out of this? If we're
Speaker 2: all we're all one, we can never really get beyond that.
Speaker 1: Remember, I was I my last mushroom trip that I
Speaker 1: did in December, which it didn't intend to have ego death,
Speaker 1: but I did anyway, And it was I kept on
Speaker 1: going through these weird fractals of really really holding on
Speaker 1: to my human and really really holding on to Like
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to lose being a
Speaker 1: human again, and then I would have and I kept
Speaker 1: on having to remind myself there, but there's time, and
Speaker 1: I kept on saying to myself, there's time because the
Speaker 1: Earth goes around the sun and there's the moon, and
Speaker 1: like I was trying to convince myself that these things
Speaker 1: were true, and then like there would be like this
Speaker 1: face that would almost like kind of smile and laugh
Speaker 1: at me and just be like just let go, just
Speaker 1: let go, And I was like, I can't let go
Speaker 1: of these things being true, and it was like, just
Speaker 1: let go of them. You've you've let go of them before,
Speaker 1: Just let go of them. And I would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's so uncomfortable to let go, and then I would
Speaker 1: let go of it. And then I was in this
Speaker 1: other thing that wasn't what this is, and it was
Speaker 1: almost it was just yeah, it's almost like I was like,
Speaker 1: you know how I told you it looked it looked
Speaker 1: very like mc usher fractal with like kind of like
Speaker 1: had some like Indian figurines like connecting and stuff, and
Speaker 1: like there was like it was very it was like
Speaker 1: hyper two D in some ways, like it was it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the same kind of way that three D looks,
Speaker 1: so it's hard to explain, but it was more than
Speaker 1: two D. And and then anyway, I remember like I was,
Speaker 1: I was like I was kind of like I I
Speaker 1: realized that I wanted to find the three D again.
Speaker 1: So like I I like broke through whatever this patterning
Speaker 1: was and grabbed the earth again. And then I remember
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Okay, hold on to it. What is time?
Speaker 1: What is time? What is it?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Because like the sun is real, I'm and what else
Speaker 1: is there? There's the moon? What are what are things
Speaker 1: that are real? The sun in the moon, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: but these really aren't real. It was a very weird,
Speaker 1: like trippy trip, which was like crazy to have, but
Speaker 1: it did make me come back kind of going like, huh,
Speaker 1: I don't know that I want to try to escape
Speaker 1: while I'm in here, because I do realize that it
Speaker 1: is a gift while we are in this experience, and
Speaker 1: it is very calm to be It's even though you
Speaker 1: don't feel like it's calm, it's calm. To be in
Speaker 1: one brain at one time is very It's very that's
Speaker 1: a very.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because in a sense, you were out of
Speaker 2: your mind and that's a well, it's very uncomfortable and
Speaker 2: it's and it could be scary and you don't know
Speaker 2: what's real and what's not. And yeah, that's that's why.
Speaker 2: It's it's out of comfort zone for sure, because we
Speaker 2: have no idea. But in essentially, I mean, you were
Speaker 2: losing your ego, right, it was the whole ego death.
Speaker 2: And it was also you were you were I was
Speaker 2: thinking of Joe Dispense as like you know, you're nothing,
Speaker 2: you know, like you just keep going out until you're nothing.
Speaker 2: So you were you were going out like nothing was anything.
Speaker 2: There was the moon and the sun like all that
Speaker 2: really was nothing.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I mean, for me, nothing
Speaker 1: almost feels just like Pitch Black. Silence, and there was
Speaker 1: not that at all. There. It was everything. It was
Speaker 1: so chaotic and so full of stuff that it's hard
Speaker 1: to come But at the same time, I didn't have
Speaker 1: a concept of identity.
Speaker 2: I didn't, right, well, why are those things like the
Speaker 2: blackness and that kind of thing, Like why does that
Speaker 2: have to be different than what you're just describing, Like
Speaker 2: can't those be the same thing? You know? Like it
Speaker 2: is the same thing. Really, it's not blackness. I guess
Speaker 2: nothing and everything are the same, right, the alpha and
Speaker 2: the omega come together and they're are the same.
Speaker 1: Well, you remember how I think we've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: How when you when you like are in in your
Speaker 1: bed at night. I used to do it a lot
Speaker 1: when as a kid, and like a you'll press on
Speaker 1: your eyes and it's and then it's almost like a
Speaker 1: kaleidoscope of all kinds of weird little fractally stuff happens.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I wonder, I mean, and I know that
Speaker 1: that's like, okay, that's just your optic nerve like whatever,
Speaker 1: doing something, But I I don't know the the fragmentation
Speaker 1: of of thought when you really dig down into it
Speaker 1: in a visual level, is it's it's well, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: never going to figure it out. It's super confusing. But
Speaker 1: I also, I'm I'm getting less scared of that the
Speaker 1: older I am. I was scared of that when I
Speaker 1: was little, like the vastest knowing, like like not just
Speaker 1: the not knowing, but also I was scared of going
Speaker 1: too deep into the fractalization of things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well getting lost there and getting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe getting lost there and not being able to
Speaker 1: come back to this reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's good. That's good that you lost that
Speaker 2: fear because I mean, for me, it's still kind of
Speaker 2: not like super fearful, but something that it's just like whoa,
Speaker 2: I can get out of my mind, Like I could
Speaker 2: go crazy, and then what if I can't get back?
Speaker 2: This is the thing we were just saying about the fractal.
Speaker 2: This wasn't a fractal, But you know, does this happen
Speaker 2: to you, Like when like today, I was in the
Speaker 2: ocean that I was floating and I just had my
Speaker 2: eyes closed and I was like looking up because you
Speaker 2: could you know, you could see light through your eyelids,
Speaker 2: but I could just see patterns. Yeah, patterns start forming,
Speaker 2: and mostly they're they're pretty much just like geometric, like
Speaker 2: the like the what's it called flower, like the flower
Speaker 2: of life type of patterns mostly, but it's just weird
Speaker 2: that I feel like those are all I could and
Speaker 2: it's different than the tractos that I could see when
Speaker 2: I'm lying in bed. Like right now, I can actually
Speaker 2: see pixels, pixels, not fractals. I can see pixels right now.
Speaker 2: I've always been able to see pixels. I think everyone
Speaker 2: can see pickles pixels. I just assume that that's what
Speaker 2: I could see. It's not like a huge but I
Speaker 2: can see like pixels.
Speaker 1: But I guess I can see. I can see pixels.
Speaker 1: Like if I like completely let my eyes go lazy
Speaker 1: and I look and I focus on the peripheral.
Speaker 2: If I just look into space between the wall and
Speaker 2: where I am, I can see like I don't know
Speaker 2: energy pixels. I don't know exactly what it is, but I.
Speaker 1: Can yee, okay. I think when I look at when
Speaker 1: I look at whiteness, I can kind of do that.
Speaker 1: I can. I can see that when I look at
Speaker 1: it has to take a solid colorful me. I lose
Speaker 1: it when I look at solid shapes or like multidimensional shapes,
Speaker 1: like if I'm looking at something solid, I can see it,
Speaker 1: like if I'm looking at the door, or like.
Speaker 2: You can't look at don't look at anything solid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to look at the space between the solids,
Speaker 2: well what we think are solids. But anyway, the most
Speaker 2: solid thing around you look you just look into the
Speaker 2: air pretty much. I remember, I.
Speaker 1: Mean brother talks about that, he and I and I
Speaker 1: do think. I do feel like I I see I
Speaker 1: see it. I do. I do. I don't know how
Speaker 1: prevalente it is. I do see well.
Speaker 2: I mean when I when I just like choose to
Speaker 2: focus on it, I can see it. I've always been
Speaker 2: able to see it. Like I remember asking my dad
Speaker 2: that and he was like, oh, it's just a little
Speaker 2: floaters behind your eye when I was a kid who
Speaker 2: was putting me to bed and I could see it,
Speaker 2: especially at night time when it was dark, and he
Speaker 2: was like, he's like, no, those are just you know,
Speaker 2: those are just like little floater things. Everybody could see them.
Speaker 1: So if I had to describe it, it would be
Speaker 1: like if you you know, when you turn your your
Speaker 1: TV to snow are you turn your TV to a
Speaker 1: channel that's not really a channel, and there's all that
Speaker 1: like that like chaotic little snow stuff. It's like a finer,
Speaker 1: a more even like it's like it's like more tightly
Speaker 1: meshed and thinner, finer exampling of that. That's just finally
Speaker 1: in the air. That's kind of like what I could see.
Speaker 1: Is that at all what you experience?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good description of it. That's pretty
Speaker 2: much what it is. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: within that, I could see the little floaters that are
Speaker 2: on my eyes. But I can distinguish that those are
Speaker 2: floaters that are on my eyes.
Speaker 1: Me too, I can sometimes I think floaters come with age.
Speaker 2: But then yeah, exactly, But then after a while you're
Speaker 2: just sore, like, oh wait, that's obviously not that. But
Speaker 2: now I can see I mean, I'm just looking at
Speaker 2: the energy I always called it. Like after that, I
Speaker 2: just was like, oh, it's just the energy I can see.
Speaker 2: It's not really an aura. See.
Speaker 1: But when I do it with the sun, when I
Speaker 1: close my eyes and look at the sun, I always think,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm seeing orange, and I always feel like
Speaker 1: I'm kind of seeing like the tone of my eyelid maybe.
Speaker 1: And then and then I also like when I would
Speaker 1: I do end up seeing like more. You know, I
Speaker 1: always have like the the burned mark of what I
Speaker 1: had just looked at the sun before I would close
Speaker 1: my eyes and then you also, I do feel like
Speaker 1: you know, but once my left eye, I always see
Speaker 1: a blue spiral like in the bottom when I close
Speaker 1: my left eye. So yeah, so I don't know what
Speaker 1: that's about, Like, I don't. I didn't see it just now,
Speaker 1: but I'll probably see it at least a couple of
Speaker 1: times a day, not every time I close my eyes,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I see it daily.
Speaker 2: Oh. I could just see like a geometric pattern because
Speaker 2: like today, when I wasn't looking right at the sun,
Speaker 2: I just had my eyes closed and I was looking
Speaker 2: to the sky but there was still a lot of
Speaker 2: light and the sun was was still like pretty far
Speaker 2: in the west because it was setting. But anyway, I
Speaker 2: was just floating and I could just be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I could see these geometric patterns, and they were like vibrating.
Speaker 2: They're just like vibrating defined or not. They're vibrating and
Speaker 2: changing like you would see a mondala. It was like
Speaker 2: a mondala in my eye, Like in my eyes, I
Speaker 2: could just see it like like the flower of light.
Speaker 2: If I focus on it. I can actually if I
Speaker 2: think about them, I could change them with my thoughts.
Speaker 2: But I can see it.
Speaker 1: Uh huh Okay. Now I definitely have that experience with
Speaker 1: when I'm closing my eyes at night, I feel like
Speaker 1: like I feel like the kaleidoscope is always changing and
Speaker 1: I can I can change it more with my mind
Speaker 1: and I even can like change the primal color that
Speaker 1: I'm going to be seeing. It takes the minute. It
Speaker 1: can't just get from like blue to yellow. I have
Speaker 1: to like go through the green process. But I can
Speaker 1: shift it through there.
Speaker 2: I've always trying to change colors.
Speaker 1: What do you think is happening with so you think
Speaker 1: that's electricity? Are we seeing electricity? Like what do you
Speaker 1: think the space? Like? We're seeing space, but what do
Speaker 1: you space?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't it's empty, It's it's ether, it's electricity.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but I think it's
Speaker 2: those two things whatever ether would be defined as. But
Speaker 2: that like ether and electricity. Yeah, and that's where all
Speaker 2: this stuff happens, Like if you that's where you can
Speaker 2: create things, and that's where like there's actually a lot
Speaker 2: of light life there. If we had if we had
Speaker 2: better vision than humans have, we might be able to
Speaker 2: see more if we had different vision, like an animal,
Speaker 2: we would be able to see more, you know, like uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like more of the RBF like frequency, more of
Speaker 1: the visual light spectrum.
Speaker 2: Well that too, but also just more like frames per second.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, although there is that concept of the frames
Speaker 1: per second being associated with your life expectancy. So like
Speaker 1: human see uh twenty four frames per second, but if
Speaker 1: you make it to where there's thirty six frames per second,
Speaker 1: it's so much information that we it lets what they
Speaker 1: do to make a three D movie three DS, they
Speaker 1: put thirty thirty six frames per second in and then
Speaker 1: so we have like an overload of information, so it
Speaker 1: makes everything look like it's popping out. But then like
Speaker 1: they would, I've I don't know if this is true
Speaker 1: or if they've done studies, or if I think they
Speaker 1: should do studies and this is my hypothesis or like
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but basically I think that I've heard,
Speaker 1: though I don't know it's true that like say, for instance,
Speaker 1: like a fruit fly might which only lives three days,
Speaker 1: might see like, you know, a million frames per second,
Speaker 1: whereas something like a sea turtle that can be like
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty easy sees like, you know, eight
Speaker 1: frames per second, and maybe that is why a fruit
Speaker 1: fly is like, ah, it's like so like crazy, like fast,
Speaker 1: everything's like this. It just like burns up fast and
Speaker 1: dies even though probably it's perception, it still lived a
Speaker 1: full life. And then with the sea turtle, it's like
Speaker 1: it only moves it moves so slow because it only
Speaker 1: does see eight frames per second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that would be good to know if we
Speaker 2: can actually prove that scientifically, because that would be interesting.
Speaker 1: What would be what would be valuable about that? I
Speaker 1: feel like this is like, what if we could tweak
Speaker 1: perhaps during sleep time or something. We could tweak it
Speaker 1: to where you're seeing like one frame or you know whatever,
Speaker 1: one frame every every thousand seconds, to where your perception
Speaker 1: of time went by so slow that after you woke up,
Speaker 1: you would you could get like you could almost extend
Speaker 1: your life by a third. Because what if our life
Speaker 1: expectancy in telling ourselves to shed their telomerors or whatever
Speaker 1: is actually from our own perception, right?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think that that could be true because
Speaker 2: that's another thing. Our perception. Our perception is what creates
Speaker 2: a reality. Right, So people have totally different perceptions and
Speaker 2: therefore different realities. We don't know, I guess we do
Speaker 2: it like as a species, right, as a species, you
Speaker 2: probably have a certain type of reality. But in addition
Speaker 2: to that, as an individual, yeah, because everything is in
Speaker 2: our mind. Really we create every everything that is is
Speaker 2: created in our minds.
Speaker 1: But that's that's why do you ever? I mean, sometimes
Speaker 1: I do wonder, like.
Speaker 2: Some else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, either either that or it's like you know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like wake up, ballast, wake up, you know.
Speaker 1: I sometimes I wonder if this is all just this
Speaker 1: could all just be a dream, And like I wonder
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll say to myself, like, first of all, I
Speaker 1: think that uh, the master source electricity is experienced it
Speaker 1: excelf through all of us. So I will say, like,
Speaker 1: what is it that you wanted to experience exactly with
Speaker 1: this exactly? Because I'm personally as this individual expression of
Speaker 1: you not finding this thing so fun? So what is
Speaker 1: it that you wanted out of this? And then which
Speaker 1: is weird because like you're talking to yourself for for through,
Speaker 1: but you're talking to something else within yourself. But what
Speaker 1: I do, what I my point is is that I
Speaker 1: feel like maybe maybe this is all a way to
Speaker 1: get uh, I don't I don't know. I like maybe
Speaker 1: once we figure out the goal, we'll just wake up,
Speaker 1: or or maybe like we're all in all these different
Speaker 1: stages until something is learned or something is experienced or
Speaker 1: something is expressed, but maybe there is no goal and
Speaker 1: it's all just about experience at this time. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, but sometimes I do think this could all
Speaker 1: be in my.
Speaker 2: Head, like I think all of all of indeed, like
Speaker 2: or see all of what all of the above tro
Speaker 2: I think that's that is everything that you said it
Speaker 2: is true, and none of them, none of them really
Speaker 2: like contradict the other. They're all, yeah, you can have
Speaker 2: this this experience and once every once you wake up
Speaker 2: like that's it, like that's the goal, or maybe nothing's
Speaker 2: the goal, or that where it's all a big dream,
Speaker 2: like it's all it's all of those things are true
Speaker 2: for me. Now I just decided, well, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm just here like yeah, trying to be trying to
Speaker 2: trying to. I mean, I do I think about that
Speaker 2: whole feedback loop, especially when I'm like okay, when I
Speaker 2: tell Sab, you know, like you like everyone's just having
Speaker 2: their experience. It's not you know, no one's better than
Speaker 2: anybody else, no one's worse than anybody else. Like we're
Speaker 2: just having our experience and we're contributing to life because
Speaker 2: of it. So that's what we're doing. Yeah, it doesn't
Speaker 2: have to contradict.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, it doesn't have to contradict. It is
Speaker 1: it is an interesting because that's the other thing I
Speaker 1: I that I had to say. The other thing that
Speaker 1: like was I was hearing myself tell myself during Mushrooms
Speaker 1: last time, was that like basically like it's all within me,
Speaker 1: like the whole, Like everything's within me this world, but
Speaker 1: then there's other us to contend with, Like it's really
Speaker 1: the flower of life is a beautiful expression visually of
Speaker 1: what's really going on within the thread of our of
Speaker 1: our energetic existence, because it's like, yeah, you are the
Speaker 1: center of your point, you are the center of your universe,
Speaker 1: but you're you're the peripheral of your universe is touching
Speaker 1: other galaxies, and so there's everybody else that you're touching
Speaker 1: is their own universe, and so it's yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of you still have to contend with other youths
Speaker 1: all around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, other people, right, other youws and all. When you
Speaker 2: first of that, I thought I thought of other us
Speaker 2: on other dement and other dementia. It's like, that's what
Speaker 2: I was thinking. But you meant like other us meaning
Speaker 2: other holes.
Speaker 1: Well I think I guess maybe other us meaning that
Speaker 1: you and I and everybody in existence all have this existence.
Speaker 1: We all have this electricity, we all have this consciousness
Speaker 1: that is getting feedback loops to it. So we're all
Speaker 1: different expressions of it, but we're all part of one thing.
Speaker 1: We're all one part of the whole. So so basically
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, you know, you're you're no better
Speaker 1: than your weakest link in a lot of ways, because
Speaker 1: you can hate your neighbor, but you're hating yourself in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways because that whatever whoever that person
Speaker 1: is is still part of the the the all right,
Speaker 1: So you know it's like not so you're kind of
Speaker 1: biting your nose off in spite of your face by
Speaker 1: being you know, so anyway, So that's what I kind
Speaker 1: of mean by you still have to contend with other youths,
Speaker 1: and if you just look at them as other aspects
Speaker 1: of you, I feel like we would all be pretty
Speaker 1: much better off. Yeah, yeah, that that actually helps me
Speaker 1: because like I have a tendency to be a bitch
Speaker 1: and like, you know, bitch about people a lot. And
Speaker 1: I I've gotten better in age by just kind of
Speaker 1: going like, yeah, well that person is still me or
Speaker 1: or that person is still like we have we have
Speaker 1: mutual goals in terms of you know, I don't like
Speaker 1: we belong to the same being. We belong we're both
Speaker 1: flees on the same dog. We don't want the dog
Speaker 1: to die or whatever it is, like we are like
Speaker 1: we're part of the same system and I and I
Speaker 1: want the system to I want the system to be
Speaker 1: in the love vibration and have like a higher I
Speaker 1: want it to be feeling way good. I don't want
Speaker 1: it to be feeling bad. So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what you're going to do. Then, you know,
Speaker 2: help the people, help like be in love, you know,
Speaker 2: and be and help share that with others somehow whatever
Speaker 2: that means to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's a whole lot of
Speaker 2: things that like, oh, you were meant to be here
Speaker 2: right now, you know, like you were chosen to be
Speaker 2: here right now. This whole big transition to the Age
Speaker 2: of Aquarius or whatever. I feel like, Okay, yeah, like
Speaker 2: that's a nice story, and I there's part of me
Speaker 2: that believes it or wants to believe it, because you
Speaker 2: want to feel special like you were brought here now
Speaker 2: and like you can do you're somehow of service. But
Speaker 2: then and there's a part of me that probably doesn't
Speaker 2: believe it. But then like the part of me that
Speaker 2: wants to believe it and does believe it thinks that's right.
Speaker 2: You know, like I am here doing that and I'm
Speaker 2: just going I keep sending out my love because that's
Speaker 2: all I wanted to That's what I came here to do.
Speaker 2: So now that I've realized that that's what I've come
Speaker 2: here to do, that means that I constantly have to
Speaker 2: give out love to myself and work on myself and
Speaker 2: you know, figure out what that means, and like it's
Speaker 2: it's it's it's like just learning about yourself and for
Speaker 2: me and then also like checking in all the time
Speaker 2: and also thinking about my own it's like meta meta thinking.
Speaker 2: It's it's like thinking and then meta thinking. It's endless.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I like, okay, well, as soon as
Speaker 2: you yeah, yeah, like in what way.
Speaker 1: No, but in the terms of like whether like choose
Speaker 1: something starsy Twin said to me. But it was like
Speaker 1: this whole thing of well, even if this is an ascension,
Speaker 1: or if if we are like trying to bring in
Speaker 1: the Age of Aquarius or whatever it is we're trying
Speaker 1: to do here we're star seeds or or we're bringing
Speaker 1: in light, or we're like we're or grid worker, whatever
Speaker 1: it is that is. It could be true and then
Speaker 1: somewhere and then not or whatever. I think we're evolving
Speaker 1: for forever. I don't think there's a stopping point. It's
Speaker 1: like we ascend and then we're done. Yay, we won
Speaker 1: the prize, and then we go home and that's it.
Speaker 1: It's over. No, That's why I feel like we can't
Speaker 1: wait for I think, you know, a lot of being
Speaker 1: human has for me so far been like, oh, things
Speaker 1: are going to be great when this happens, when this
Speaker 1: person wins, when this, when when I when I finish this,
Speaker 1: complete this one task, when this thing happens for me,
Speaker 1: when this happens, But then you get to there, and
Speaker 1: then there's another goal, and there's another thing, and another
Speaker 1: thing happens, and so it's just kind of I feel
Speaker 1: like it's obviously probably as above so blow. So it's
Speaker 1: got to be like that with everything. So yeah, so yay, yay,
Speaker 1: we're so happy we ascend from the three D consciousness
Speaker 1: to the five D consciousness. But then, guess what, there's
Speaker 1: a sixty or a seventy or an eight, like there's
Speaker 1: I feel like there's always going to be there's there's
Speaker 1: there's no stopping point.
Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah exactly, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why we focus so much on being somewhere else besides
Speaker 1: here when it's it.
Speaker 2: You know, well, that's an excellent point. It's just like
Speaker 2: we'll just enjoy the ride because you, like you said,
Speaker 2: it's really a gift to be here right now. It's
Speaker 2: a gift to be especially to be aware of that
Speaker 2: you're here right now, not only to be here and
Speaker 2: like that's a gift in itself, but also the gift
Speaker 2: of being like, well, I'm sitting here thinking about this stuff,
Speaker 2: that in itself is a gift because you're just like,
Speaker 2: not everybody thinks like that, Okay, so you don't have
Speaker 2: to compare yourself, but just thinking like okay, wow, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about this. I don't know. To me, that's
Speaker 2: a huge gift because you can see the synchronicities in
Speaker 2: your life or just think how things have changed in
Speaker 2: your life from when you didn't think like that, and
Speaker 2: you're like, wow, how much different do I think now
Speaker 2: than I did ten years ago or fifteen, twenty years ago,
Speaker 2: Like you just are blown away how much you've You've evolved.
Speaker 2: Hopefully in some you're like, wow, I've evolved. I'm not
Speaker 2: the same person that I was before, for sure.
Speaker 1: I think one thing I've noticed is that like I
Speaker 1: actually like myself, like and when I'm alone with myself,
Speaker 1: I I I we laugh, like I like myself, I
Speaker 1: have I have. Ultimately, I'm glad I am who I am,
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think I felt like that
Speaker 1: in middle school. Man, I couldn't pay me enough money
Speaker 1: in the world. There was not enough money in the
Speaker 1: world to make me go back to being puberty in
Speaker 1: the seventh grade. That was just just you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what the boobs were, the hackney. Everything was
Speaker 1: just crazy. And sometimes I think about like when I
Speaker 1: when I look at a lot of people's root problems,
Speaker 1: I feel like it a lot of it is that
Speaker 1: they don't like themselves. That's what I notice. I noticed
Speaker 1: that there a lot of people don't A lot of
Speaker 1: my friends don't seem to really like themselves, And I
Speaker 1: feel like, I don't know how you get to that
Speaker 1: point where you like yourself. I don't know even know
Speaker 1: when that happened for me, but I definitely think if
Speaker 1: you don't like yourself, that's what you should be working on,
Speaker 1: because there's no reason not to like yourself. You are
Speaker 1: who you're with all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, it's little
Speaker 2: things like you you say mean things to yourself sometimes
Speaker 2: when you're worse on yourself than you are on other people.
Speaker 2: You know, like it's just like, oh, why aren't I
Speaker 2: like this or I'm not enough like this or blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, and it's uh so those things are constant
Speaker 2: in battles until you just decide, well, I love myself
Speaker 2: in any form. I mean, yeah, I want to make
Speaker 2: myself better, sure, but like I still love myself now
Speaker 2: and I still love myself in the process.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I do think for people, it is,
Speaker 1: it really is. And I think your self speak yourself
Speaker 1: talk is one of the most important I actually, I
Speaker 1: think Tim Ferriss was the first person who like pointed
Speaker 1: that out in a way in which that really stuck
Speaker 1: to me. But it was like, don't ever say anything
Speaker 1: to yourself internally in your head that you wouldn't say
Speaker 1: to your best friend, Like if you wouldn't say, oh, like,
Speaker 1: you look like such a fat blood, like like if
Speaker 1: you wouldn't use those slurring of insults in that sequence
Speaker 1: to your best friend, then don't say it to yourself.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I like, if you if like let's
Speaker 1: say you're you were best friend, was did gain a
Speaker 1: lot of weight or something? You would say, oh, we
Speaker 1: need to go running or like something like that. You
Speaker 1: would never criticize the way we criticize ourselves. Like that's
Speaker 1: just one example, but it could be over over, But
Speaker 1: basically anything you need to speak to yourself the way
Speaker 1: you would speak to somebody you love. Right then that
Speaker 1: once that happens, once you get in the pattern of
Speaker 1: doing that, and it's fine if you if you mess
Speaker 1: up here and there, you mess up, you mess up,
Speaker 1: you start again. You speak to yourself like someone you love,
Speaker 1: like how do you speak to someone you love? And
Speaker 1: then eventually you build that pattern system within yourself and
Speaker 1: then you before you know it, you don't think the
Speaker 1: way you used to think.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's true. It does. Yeah, that's how you
Speaker 2: evolve over time out of it. It's true. And I
Speaker 2: personally had that experience. It's like, oh, okay, yeah, because
Speaker 2: today I was sitting here thinking about like if I
Speaker 2: were to change things about myself, what would they be.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, there, maybe I would change
Speaker 2: this or change that, but but not even I mean,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. It's just like, all right, well I am
Speaker 2: who I am, and yeah there's things I guess that
Speaker 2: I could do better at or somehow get better. But
Speaker 2: I still like, I still was like even though and
Speaker 2: I was like, I love you and I said that
Speaker 2: to myself, and I'm like, it's okay that I think that,
Speaker 2: and I and I still love you for wanting to
Speaker 2: make those changes. I'm not like, you know, perfectionists according
Speaker 2: to what my mind I has, but like, I still
Speaker 2: I still love you even though you still think like that,
Speaker 2: Like it's okay, Like like I'm just being forgiving of
Speaker 2: myself for that. I think that's a huge thing and
Speaker 2: it makes it Yeah, if you if people love themselves,
Speaker 2: the world would definitely be a better place for sure.
Speaker 2: There's no there's no doubt, Like, oh yeah, everything starts
Speaker 2: from within. Like if you can't if you can't get
Speaker 2: peace from within, starting from within, how are you going
Speaker 2: to be peaceful with others? It's just it has to
Speaker 2: everything has to start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you just give yourself compassion, just all the
Speaker 1: compassion in the world, just because I mean, like there's
Speaker 1: That's the other thing is like if you're if you're
Speaker 1: saying to yourself, oh I don't have X Y, I
Speaker 1: don't have these material goals or I don't have these
Speaker 1: benchmarks of what I should have at this point in
Speaker 1: time in society or whatever it is you're saying to
Speaker 1: your internal self. By you beating yourself up doesn't make
Speaker 1: it so, So it just makes you feel bad in
Speaker 1: the process. So it actually it actually and a lot
Speaker 1: of times that hinders people from progressing forward and forgetting
Speaker 1: like and living a prosperous, happy, healthy, wonderful life because
Speaker 1: they are you know, they're they're putting that barrier on
Speaker 1: their own self. They're putting their own blocks because you're
Speaker 1: living in a ball of chaotic hate instead of being
Speaker 1: just compassionate, chill with yourself, like it's okay. If you
Speaker 1: didn't get what you said you were going to get done,
Speaker 1: do it the next Like it's okay, start again. It's okay,
Speaker 1: start again, you.
Speaker 2: Know exactly, Yeah, and you're just giving again. It's the
Speaker 2: feedback loop too, We're just giving our experience to the universe.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't it doesn't really matter, and like nothing
Speaker 2: else matters, so you could just remember to go back
Speaker 2: to that too, that's helpful, Like, at least it was
Speaker 2: for me. I Oh right, I don't have like the
Speaker 2: other Today. I was thinking, Okay, this is my goal
Speaker 2: and this is what I want. And then I was like,
Speaker 2: why is it that I want that again? Oh? And
Speaker 2: then I started to think about the reasons why I
Speaker 2: wanted that, and then I was thinking was that really
Speaker 2: something that I wanted? And then and then I like,
Speaker 2: as I was thinking about that, I'm like, oh, how
Speaker 2: about just it's okay wherever I am right now, that's enough.
Speaker 2: That's fine, I don't you know. And as soon as
Speaker 2: I realized that, I caught myself in the process of
Speaker 2: doing that, Like before I think I would go back
Speaker 2: to it, but now it's just like, oh, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm good, I live an excellent life, Like I'm just
Speaker 2: like I just you choose to be happy. You used
Speaker 2: to be happy, and you have to be the one
Speaker 2: that chooses. But you're right about thinking about our thoughts.
Speaker 2: Watching our thoughts is huge. Our thoughts are things. Thoughts
Speaker 2: are are the building brocks, and thoughts are things. So
Speaker 2: you know, we're sending out the signal to the to
Speaker 2: there to the world. So watch how you use it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, send good stuff very important.
Speaker 2: Watch, yeah, watch your own thoughts like huge.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. I do think that's really important. I
Speaker 1: have I have, I have taken to that whole like
Speaker 1: why do I want this? Why do I need this?
Speaker 1: Because you know, I also I start thinking about, Look, dude,
Speaker 1: we die and I cleaned out my grandparents house whenever
Speaker 1: they died. They had so much we had to get
Speaker 1: like a giant dumpster. I mean they had so many
Speaker 1: like you know, VCRs, like videotapes of stuff from I
Speaker 1: don't know, like the eight early eight I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just there, like just horrible lawn chairs that should
Speaker 1: have been thrown out like ten years before that, and
Speaker 1: just yeah, I mean just stuff that You're I don't
Speaker 1: even know what like, but I think to myself sometimes
Speaker 1: why am I buying that? Like why why do I
Speaker 1: need We have such a consumption society, so sometimes I
Speaker 1: also sometimes think to myself, like why do I need this? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Like do I really need this? Do I really want this?
Speaker 1: And why do I want this? And do I want this?
Speaker 1: Because like why, I need to really examine the why first,
Speaker 1: and if it passes all that.
Speaker 2: And I still want it, I'll get it right exactly.
Speaker 2: That's a great way to look at it. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: could do that with anything too, Like why do I
Speaker 2: want to eat this? You know, like what is it?
Speaker 2: Is it just something that's a temporary fixed feeling? Yeah,
Speaker 2: a temporary fix exactly. Yeah, it's it's tough z.