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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne is located in the southeastern corner of Australia. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a big city, humming with activity at all ours in

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<v Speaker 1>the day and night. On the outer fringe of Melbourne's

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<v Speaker 1>northern suburbs lies Murnda. It's a quiet, modern neighborhood that's

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<v Speaker 1>still holds the imprint of its rural past. It started

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<v Speaker 1>out as farmland, known in the eighteen hundreds as Merangue South.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the land of orchards and sheep stations before

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<v Speaker 1>it took the name Mirnda in nineteen thirteen. By the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, Murnda had transformed. It was now one of

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<v Speaker 1>the faster growing areas in Victoria. Farm blocks gave way

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<v Speaker 1>to neat rows of family homes, school supermarkets, and a

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<v Speaker 1>shiny new train line followed, connecting the community to the

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<v Speaker 1>wider city. One night in November of twenty and twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>Aggimano was asleep in her bed in a tidy house

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<v Speaker 1>nestled in one of the new estates of Mirnda. The

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<v Speaker 1>home was still in dark until a noise shoulted her awake.

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<v Speaker 1>She blinked, unsure if it had come from the world

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<v Speaker 1>outside or from inside her dreams, but then she heard

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<v Speaker 1>something else. It sounded like somebody gasping for breath. This

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a bad dream, It was real. But the nightmare

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<v Speaker 1>had only just begun. It was in the suburb of

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<v Speaker 1>Mirnda that Celeste Mano had built a life. She was

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<v Speaker 1>born on the twenty second of November nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>the only daughter of Aggie Tomorrow and Tony Mano. From

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning, she was there light. The name Celeste

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<v Speaker 1>had been chosen deliberately lovingly for its celestial meaning. Though

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<v Speaker 1>her parents would eventually separate, their bond with Celeste remained unwavering.

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<v Speaker 1>She grew up surrounded by love from her parents and

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<v Speaker 1>her two brothers, Alessandro and Jaden, the man who household

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<v Speaker 1>life was one of tradition. Evenings often meant floor or

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<v Speaker 1>dusted aprons and the scent of homemade pizza wafting from

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen. The easy Sunday afternoons were spent lounging by

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<v Speaker 1>the swimming pool. To Jade and her older brother, Celeste

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<v Speaker 1>was more than a sister. She was a guiding force.

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<v Speaker 1>He later recollected. She was the most intelligent one of

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, the best of all of us. There

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a soul on this earth, who could ever say

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<v Speaker 1>a bad thing? When Jane became a father, Celeste embraced

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<v Speaker 1>the role of ante with joy. Only wasn't just important

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<v Speaker 1>to her, it was everything. She radiated a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>grace that felt rare in her generation. Those who loved

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<v Speaker 1>her said that she was elegant, thoughtful, even a little

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<v Speaker 1>old fashioned in a world that often rushes past tenderness.

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<v Speaker 1>Her friend and colleague, Bertine Rash, who remembered her as

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<v Speaker 1>a kind, loving, great friend to many. Celeste's bedroom wall

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<v Speaker 1>bore a whiteboard filled with motivational quotes and gentle reminders.

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<v Speaker 1>Each morning, before anything else, she would pause to read them.

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<v Speaker 1>At the very top was a single word, smile, and

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<v Speaker 1>she meant it. To Celeste, a smile wasn't just an expression,

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<v Speaker 1>It was a way to writeen up somebody else's day.

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<v Speaker 1>Her godmother, Pinya, described her as the sweetest, kindest person

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<v Speaker 1>you could ever meet, and that kindness wasn't surface level,

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<v Speaker 1>it was deeply ingrained in the way that she moved

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<v Speaker 1>through the world. For five years, Celeste had volunteered with

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<v Speaker 1>Seven Cups of Tea, an online platform that provides emotional

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<v Speaker 1>support to people experiencing mental health challenges. The work was

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<v Speaker 1>hard and it was unpaid, but Celeste never treated it

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<v Speaker 1>like a burden. She carried that same empathy into her

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<v Speaker 1>professional life. After completing a criminology and psychology degree at

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<v Speaker 1>r MIT University, she accepted a job at a call

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<v Speaker 1>center in mill Park operated by Circo Asia Pacific. For many,

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<v Speaker 1>the call center was just a job, a stepping stone,

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<v Speaker 1>a paycheck. But Celeste was different. She brought a quiet

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<v Speaker 1>brilliance to the workplace. Her college said that she had

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<v Speaker 1>a positive energy. She was wise beyond her years, so

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<v Speaker 1>much so that she was quickly promoted to team leader.

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<v Speaker 1>But in that same workplace, Celeste had also caught the

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<v Speaker 1>attention of someone else, someone who was watching. Among the

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<v Speaker 1>team members who briefly worked under Celeste's supervision at Circo

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<v Speaker 1>was a man named Louis Seco. He was thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>years old, more than a decade older than Celeste, and

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways his story was won shaped by displacement

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<v Speaker 1>and disappointment. Seco had been born in Iraq. During the

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<v Speaker 1>oppressive reign of Saddam Hussein. In nineteen ninety two, he

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<v Speaker 1>and his family fled to Australia in search of something better.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the eldest of five children, and with that

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<v Speaker 1>came pressure, some spoken, some not. His younger brother Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>would later make headlines after being sentenced to six years

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<v Speaker 1>in a youth justice center for the manslaughter of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two year old Matthew macavoy. Leais on the surface had

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<v Speaker 1>always appeared to be the opposite. He was studious and quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>He excelled in maths and earned his way into university.

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<v Speaker 1>But somewhere along that path something began to fracture. His

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<v Speaker 1>own family would later describe him as a loner and

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<v Speaker 1>an introvert. Social cues escaped him, human connection seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>slip through his fingers. A university, he struggled. He felt

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<v Speaker 1>invisible and rejected, and that sense of isolation seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>harden something inside of him. Work didn't provide the redemption

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<v Speaker 1>he may have hoped for. He drifted in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of retailed jobs, often unemployed, living on the fringe of

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<v Speaker 1>professional life until April of two thousand and nineteen, when

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<v Speaker 1>he joined SO and was assigned to the team led

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<v Speaker 1>by Celeste Mano. She treated him just like she treated

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else, with respect, with professionalism with the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>quiet empathy that came so naturally to her. But Luis

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<v Speaker 1>Siecho saw something else in her, something that was never there.

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<v Speaker 1>Just two months into the job, Seko was fired for

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing performance issues. On his last day, Celeste walked him

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<v Speaker 1>to the door, shook his hand, and wished him well.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a simple, courteous goodbye, the kind of moment

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<v Speaker 1>that might be forgotten by most, but for Seku it

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<v Speaker 1>became something else entirely. He thanked her for her kindness,

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<v Speaker 1>and then, without warning, he leaned in and kissed her

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<v Speaker 1>on the cheek. Celeste was startled. The gesture had crossed

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<v Speaker 1>a line. It made her deeply uncomfortable, but she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>dwell on it. She moved on, or at least she

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<v Speaker 1>tried to. A week later, a message arrived in her Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in box. It was from Louis Seko. He thanked

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<v Speaker 1>her again for how she handled his termination, and then,

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<v Speaker 1>without warning, he declared his love for her. He wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>to put an end to my suffering. Can you be

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<v Speaker 1>direct with me and just tell me how you feel

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<v Speaker 1>towards me. Celeste was gracious, she always was. She responded, Hi, Louis,

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<v Speaker 1>those are really sweet words, and I appreciate you saying

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<v Speaker 1>all of this. I'm surprised to read this as it's

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<v Speaker 1>all new to me. As much as I appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>I only feel a professional way towards you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wish you all the best towards your new job and journey.

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<v Speaker 1>But Louie didn't go away. The messages kept coming. At

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<v Speaker 1>first they were filled with admiration, odd in tone but

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<v Speaker 1>not yet overly threatening, but it was clear he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>letting go. Celeste's comfort grew, and eventually she told him plainly,

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<v Speaker 1>I would really appreciate if you could stop contacting me,

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<v Speaker 1>as this is making me very uncomfortable. Seco replied with

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<v Speaker 1>something cold and cutting. My impression of you has changed.

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<v Speaker 1>You're no different to the majority of women. I will

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<v Speaker 1>remember you in this lesson for all my life and

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<v Speaker 1>devote every ounce of energy I have to climbing up

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<v Speaker 1>and proving to the world that I'm somebody. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my promise to you and final contact to you. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was in his final contact. The message has continued,

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<v Speaker 1>and when Celeste blocked him, another account popped up, then another,

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<v Speaker 1>and another and another. Over the span of roughly a year,

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<v Speaker 1>Saeco would send more than one hundred and forty messages

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<v Speaker 1>to Celeste across various fake profiles. Would have begun as

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<v Speaker 1>an awkward infactuation had spiraled into something far darker, a fixation,

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<v Speaker 1>an obsession, and Saeco knew it. In one message, he admitted,

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<v Speaker 1>this obsession with you is an addictive and destructing feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>interfering with my ability to concentrate, deal with others, and

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<v Speaker 1>In another he wrote, I'm sorry, but I can't stop

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about you. I've never felt this way about anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. I'm totally captivated by you. You're all

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<v Speaker 1>I think about. And then in December of twenty to nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the tone of the message is shifted. Leisieko started to

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<v Speaker 1>send sexually explicit, derogatory, and violent messages to Celeste. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's confided in those closest to her, her friends, her family,

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<v Speaker 1>even her colleagues, and when the anxiety became too much,

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<v Speaker 1>she went to the police. But what she was told

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<v Speaker 1>was chilling in its indifference. There was nothing they could do,

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<v Speaker 1>Seco hadn't made direct threats, no physical crime had been committed.

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<v Speaker 1>The advice she was given was to shut down her

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<v Speaker 1>social media, start afresh, delete and block her mother Agi

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<v Speaker 1>would later say the suggestion was to delete and block him,

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<v Speaker 1>or start a new account, or get off social media,

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<v Speaker 1>but Celeste resisted, Why should she be the one to disappear,

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<v Speaker 1>Why should she erase parts of her life because of him?

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<v Speaker 1>She left the police station shaken and still unprotected. The

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<v Speaker 1>messages just kept coming. One day, Celeste told Teko both

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<v Speaker 1>my family and police have been made aware of the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>but that didn't deter him. He responded, I feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit hurt that you would go to that extent, Celest.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't hurt a soul, especially you. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>see me as a threat? It's a genuine question that

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<v Speaker 1>I may learn from by getting your answer. He just

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<v Speaker 1>kept going, even when Aggie warned him to stop contacting

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter. She messaged him saying, we will be going

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<v Speaker 1>to the police again today. I've read very disgusting messages

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<v Speaker 1>you've sent my daughter out. Dare you Sego replied, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what I was doing was disgusting. But

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<v Speaker 1>I will stop contacting Celeste if that's all she wishes.

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<v Speaker 1>But he didn't stop. Celeste became hyper aware of her surroundings.

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<v Speaker 1>After every shift at Circle, her coworkers would walk her

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<v Speaker 1>to her car. They checked the parking lot, scanned the shadows.

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<v Speaker 1>She told her supervisor, he's really going to kill me.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever celestrove home, she would always call her mother and

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<v Speaker 1>stay on the line. She had a plan. If she

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<v Speaker 1>ever thought that she was being followed, she'd drive straight

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<v Speaker 1>to the police station. Her mother later recollected Celeste was

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<v Speaker 1>always one hundred percent sure he didn't know where we lived,

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<v Speaker 1>but she checked her rare view mirrors constantly. Eventually Celeste

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<v Speaker 1>was able to apply for an intervention order. It was

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<v Speaker 1>granted an interim one, a piece of paper meant to

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<v Speaker 1>create distance, but Celeste didn't feel safe. She knew what

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<v Speaker 1>many victims of stalking knew all too well, that court

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<v Speaker 1>orders only mattered to those who choose to obey them.

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<v Speaker 1>After the intervention order was granted, a hush fell over

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<v Speaker 1>Celeste's inbox. For the first time in months. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no new messages, no disturbing DMS popping up under fake names,

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<v Speaker 1>no explicit rants, no threats, wrapped in declarations of obsession.

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<v Speaker 1>There was finally silence. Her mother, Aggie, recalled the change

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<v Speaker 1>in her daughter's mood. My daughter felt safer. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully it had scared him and maybe he REALI this

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<v Speaker 1>was serious and he needed to forget about Celeste. For

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, it felt like they could finally breathe again,

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<v Speaker 1>like the system had worked the way it was supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>But the silence didn't last. Not long after, the messages

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<v Speaker 1>started again. This time the tone was pleading. Lay Seko

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<v Speaker 1>message Celeste to beg her to drop the intervention order.

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<v Speaker 1>He insisted he didn't understand that what he had done

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<v Speaker 1>no harm. I would never hurt a soul, he wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked why she had treated him like a threat,

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<v Speaker 1>but Celeste saw through the performance. She didn't respond, She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't engage. She went straight to the police, and this

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<v Speaker 1>time Seko was arrested. When confronted with the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>what he had done, Seko broke down. He threatened to

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<v Speaker 1>take his own life. But it wasn't remorse, It was manipulation.

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<v Speaker 1>It was another tactic, another attempt to claw back control

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<v Speaker 1>over somebody who had made it clear she wanted nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with him. Sego was charged with breaching the

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<v Speaker 1>intervention order, but he was then released on summons. Celeste

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<v Speaker 1>tried not to let it rattle her. She had already

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<v Speaker 1>given too much of her energy, her sense of security,

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<v Speaker 1>and her peace of mind to this man. So she

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<v Speaker 1>carried all with life. It was November of twenty and twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>and Celeste was days away from celebrating her twenty fourth birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>It was something she had genuinely been looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>her family, her friends, the coconut cake her mom promised

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<v Speaker 1>to be She was also looking forward to spending more

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<v Speaker 1>time with her baby niece, Daisy. Because of the COVID restrictions,

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<v Speaker 1>she hadn't gotten there much. But things were aasing. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like the beginning of normalcy of life moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>and Celeste was in love. Her boyfriend, Chris Resdale, had

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<v Speaker 1>brought a new light into her life. He was kind, thought, awful,

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<v Speaker 1>and safe. Celest had already told her friends and family

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<v Speaker 1>about him, but now she was ready to tell the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The weekend before her birthday, Celeste and Chris took a

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<v Speaker 1>photograph together. They were beaming, sitting side by side with

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<v Speaker 1>arms around one another in a local pub. Chris later

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<v Speaker 1>remembered we talked and joked about how this would be

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<v Speaker 1>and she was so excited to share it with everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Celeste filled out her phone, opened Instagram and uploaded the photograph.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a simple act that many of us do

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<v Speaker 1>without thinking, but within ours, celest would be dead. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just after four a m. On the sixteenth of

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<v Speaker 1>November twenty and twenty, less than twenty four hours after

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<v Speaker 1>Celeste had shared that photograph with her boyfriend Chris. She

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<v Speaker 1>had gone to bed that night smiling, unaware that somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>across the city, a man she barely knew was staring

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<v Speaker 1>at that same image with something far more dangerous than heartbreak.

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<v Speaker 1>Lay Seco had seen the post. He had saved the

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<v Speaker 1>photograph to his phone. Then he'd searched for Chris's name

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<v Speaker 1>online on Google linked In, even tracing the location of

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<v Speaker 1>the pub where the photo had been taken. In the

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<v Speaker 1>early hours of that morning, under the cover of night,

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<v Speaker 1>Seco left his home in Roxburgh Park and began half

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<v Speaker 1>hour drive to Mirnda. The streets were still the world asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>but Sego wasn't aimless. He was on a mission. Once

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<v Speaker 1>he arrived at Celeste's quiet suburban street, he didn't park

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<v Speaker 1>straight away. He circled the block over and over again,

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<v Speaker 1>like a predator, waiting for the right moment. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>stopped the car. He got out. He ran to the

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<v Speaker 1>house and scaled the side fence like he had done

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<v Speaker 1>it before. Peering through her bedroom window, he could see

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<v Speaker 1>Celeste fast asleep, unaware that danger had already stepped inside

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<v Speaker 1>her world. Then, without hesitation, he smashed the window with

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<v Speaker 1>a hammer. Celeste was jolted awake by the sound of

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<v Speaker 1>shattering glass. She didn't even have time to scream. Within seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>Sega was inside her bedroom. He lunged at her, armed

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<v Speaker 1>with a kitchen knife, and began stabbing her with terrifying force.

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<v Speaker 1>Celeste fought back with everything she had. Her arms bore

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<v Speaker 1>defensive wounds, but she was ambush, trapped, and outmatched. Just

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<v Speaker 1>next door, her mother, Aggie, stirred from sleep. She thought

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<v Speaker 1>she'd heard something, footsteps, a thud. She sat up in bed,

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<v Speaker 1>unsure if it was real or just part of a dream,

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<v Speaker 1>But then she heard heard it gasping, she raced from

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<v Speaker 1>her bedroom into Celestes and then froze. Her daughter was

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<v Speaker 1>lying on the floor, surrounded by a pull of blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Her eyes were open but vacant. Her chest was rising

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<v Speaker 1>and falling with a fragile, strained rhythm. Each breath was

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<v Speaker 1>a struggle. Stab wounds covered her body and face. Aggie

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<v Speaker 1>dropped to the floor beside her, cradled her and called zero,

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<v Speaker 1>zero zero. She performed CPR and mouth to mouth, but

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<v Speaker 1>each breath became weaker, and then there was stillness. While

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<v Speaker 1>Aggie was desperately trying to see of her daughter, Secu

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<v Speaker 1>had already fled from the scene. He drove straight to

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<v Speaker 1>the mourned the police station. There, he approached an officer

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<v Speaker 1>calmly and just said two words, She's dead. He gave

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<v Speaker 1>them Celeste's a dress. Then he asked the officer to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot him. By the time paramedics arrived at the house,

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<v Speaker 1>celest Mano was already gone. She had been stabbed a

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<v Speaker 1>total of twenty three times, with a fatal wound through

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<v Speaker 1>her heart. The family home was enveloped in crime scene

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<v Speaker 1>tape as detectives and crimescene investigators descended on the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>police courtoned off the man of residents. Inside, investigators took

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<v Speaker 1>photographs of the bedroom, of the shattered window, the bloodstained sheets,

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<v Speaker 1>and they bagged the kitchen knife in the evidence. It

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<v Speaker 1>had been left behind by Seko as he made his getaway,

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<v Speaker 1>and slowly and carefully they carried Celeste's body out of

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<v Speaker 1>the home. Outside, her mother, Aggie, stood frozen, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she broke. She ran towards the tape, screaming, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>reach her daughter one last time. Detectives held their back,

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<v Speaker 1>their arms around her as she sobbed on the law

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<v Speaker 1>on how did I not protect her? She cried, There

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<v Speaker 1>are no words for that kind of guilt, no comfort

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<v Speaker 1>strong enough to reach your mother in that moment. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>Aggie would say, I couldn't believe what I walked into.

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<v Speaker 1>You were lifeless. I'm never going to forget that image

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, the look in your eyes, so distant,

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<v Speaker 1>so far away. I knew you were gone, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to believe what I was saying. The community

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need the full story to feel the weight of

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<v Speaker 1>what had happened. Blood was still visible on the side

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<v Speaker 1>gate from where Seko had fled. News crews gathered outside

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<v Speaker 1>and neighbors stared in disbelief and beneath the growing pile

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<v Speaker 1>of flowers and candles, a makeshift memorial was beginning to

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<v Speaker 1>take shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Morbidology listeners, if you're ready for even more evidence driven

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<v Speaker 2>content with razor sharp storytelling, we'd love to introduce you

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<v Speaker 2>to Kill Her Heart to Hearts, a narrative true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Asked we center victims and families, build timelines from reputable

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<v Speaker 2>primary sources, and keep a steady documentary tone with just

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<v Speaker 2>enough dark edged humor that never cheapens the story. We

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<v Speaker 2>explore how the evidence fits and how it doesn't, where

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<v Speaker 2>the leads went and where it all fell into place,

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<v Speaker 2>and what that all meant for the people involved and

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<v Speaker 2>the communities left behind. Good introductory episodes to start with

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<v Speaker 2>include in Cell, In Ditches or The Acid King, three

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<v Speaker 2>episodes our audience points to as the best entry ramps

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<v Speaker 2>to our dark little corner of true crime. New episodes

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<v Speaker 2>are released every Monday, so search Kill Her Heart to

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<v Speaker 2>Hearts and follow Today wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>As details emerged about Saiko's long campaign of stalking and harassment,

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<v Speaker 1>public horror turned to outrage. He had been reported he'd

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<v Speaker 1>been charged, he had an intervene in order against him,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet he was free. Celeste's father, Tony didn't hold

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<v Speaker 1>back as he said, it's got to be changed. It

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<v Speaker 1>won't bring her back, but it's got to be changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Too many scenarios have already happened. What's it going to

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<v Speaker 1>take for the government to listen. It's not right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got to stop. Her brother Jaden, echoed that same heartbreak

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<v Speaker 1>as he said, we need the government to listen. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>should have the right to live their lives, in their homes,

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<v Speaker 1>in their bedrooms, on the streets. No one should be scared.

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<v Speaker 1>In the days that followed, a petition was launched calling

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<v Speaker 1>for tougher laws to protect victims of stalking and violence.

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<v Speaker 1>It read, in part, although there are laws in place

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<v Speaker 1>and intervention orders can be granted, it's clear that this

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<v Speaker 1>is not sufficient and more needs to be done. Far

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<v Speaker 1>too many women have lost their lives at the hands

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<v Speaker 1>of perpetrators. More than eight thousand people signed their names.

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<v Speaker 1>The petition was tabled in state parliament, but for Celeste's

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<v Speaker 1>famil that was only the beginning. On the nineteenth of November,

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<v Speaker 1>just three days after the murderluais Seka was moved from

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<v Speaker 1>hospital to the police headquarters. He was charged with one

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<v Speaker 1>kind of murder, and while the legal process was moving

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<v Speaker 1>slowly forward, Celeste's loved ones had something for more devastating

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<v Speaker 1>to face saying goodbye. Towards the end of the month,

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<v Speaker 1>mourners gathered at the Whittlesey Funeral Home for Celeste's service.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a crisp day and crief clung in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Her white casket was carried by her father, her brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>and her boyfriend Chris. Inside. Loved one stood up one

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<v Speaker 1>by one to speak about Celeste. Her mother, Aggie, delivered

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<v Speaker 1>a heartbreaking eulogy. I can't imagine the horror you must

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<v Speaker 1>have felt to have been awoken by some monster. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get there in time, and I'm so angry at myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sorry. I am ashamed of myself because

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<v Speaker 1>you believed your mum would always protect. Aggie said that

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<v Speaker 1>despite everything Saco had done, Celess still had compassion for him,

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<v Speaker 1>She'd even felt sorry for him, but that compassion had

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<v Speaker 1>been met with violence, and Aggie's voice broke as she said,

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<v Speaker 1>you forgave everything, and everyone's sweety, but not me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not forgiving I want him to burn in hell. Her

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<v Speaker 1>younger brother, Alessandro, said he would never again play a

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<v Speaker 1>basketball game without imagining her cheering from the stands. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're my sister, my best friend, and most importantly, the

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<v Speaker 1>most amazing, beautiful person in my life. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>you're gone, and I can't hug and kiss you every

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<v Speaker 1>day after you come home from work. Jade and the

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<v Speaker 1>eldest said that the grief they carried was immeasurable. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're the luckiest people on earth to have had you

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives at all. You were your family's rock,

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<v Speaker 1>pillar of strength and protector. Tony her father, had his

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<v Speaker 1>words read aloud by someone else. He couldn't bring himself

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. Nothing in this earth will ever be able

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<v Speaker 1>to replace you, he said. In the months after Celeste's murder,

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<v Speaker 1>her family's grave transformed into a powerful force for change.

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<v Speaker 1>Agi became the face of the movement. She demanded for

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<v Speaker 1>better protection for women like Celeste, women who had done

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<v Speaker 1>everything right, who had reported their stalkers, who had followed

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<v Speaker 1>the rules. Aggie pushed for legislation that would ensure high

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<v Speaker 1>risk stalkers were no longer traded as low threat nuisances.

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<v Speaker 1>She called for violent perpetrators to be fitted with GPS

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<v Speaker 1>trackers and for breaches of intervention orders to carry immediate

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<v Speaker 1>jail time. Her voice shook as she stood before Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>Parliament and said, I visit my daughter's grave every day,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't talk to her because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to say. We felt safe. I thought we were safe.

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<v Speaker 1>There may be laws on legislations out there, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are not being addressed. In response, the Victorian government launched

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<v Speaker 1>an urgent review into intervention orders. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria Police announced in an internal investigation into how officers

413
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>had handled Celeste's case. Aggie was clear eyed about the failures.

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<v Speaker 1>I hold two very responsible for Celeste, first as Victoria Police,

415
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>because if they had done certain things differently, maybe Segu

416
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.640
<v Speaker 1>could have been locked up before he did anything. Second

417
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to Seku himself. But while Aggie was fighting for reform,

418
00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:42.039
<v Speaker 1>the man who murdered her daughter was locked in a

419
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:46.079
<v Speaker 1>legal limbo. While on remand in a protective custody unit,

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<v Speaker 1>Luay Seko attempted to take his own life in the

421
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>exercise yard. He was rushed to hospital, then placed in

422
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>an observation cell. He was under twenty four hour monitoring

423
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 1>and remained isolated from the other prisoners. In September, Sagu

424
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.519
<v Speaker 1>appeared via video link and formally pleaded not guilty to

425
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the murder. His lawyer Sam Norton said that the play

426
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 1>was based on medical opinion and insanity defense was clearly

427
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>on the table, but by October that medical opinion was

428
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:21.799
<v Speaker 1>deemed inconclusive. The defense requested a second evaluation, calling it

429
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 1>a very complex situation in regard to Seco's mental state.

430
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Andrew Carroll later concluded that Sekah was unfit to

431
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>stand trial and that he would likely remain unfit for

432
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>at least the next twelve months. That ruling was devastating

433
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:42.519
<v Speaker 1>because if a judge agreed, Seko wouldn't face a murder trial. Instead,

434
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:46.119
<v Speaker 1>he would be moved to a secure psychiatric facility, and

435
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>under Australian law, if he were ever deemed well enough,

436
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 1>he could be quietly released back into the community, sometimes

437
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 1>within years. The Mano family feared what that could mean,

438
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 1>that Celeste killer might never be held accountable in court,

439
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 1>that her death would go untried and unpunished. As the

440
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>case stagnated, Victoria Police rolled out a new tool called

441
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the Screening Assessment for stalking and harassment. It allowed officers

442
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 1>to better identify red flags like obsessive behaviors, past criminal charges,

443
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and patterns of escalation. It was designed to stop stalkers

444
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>before they reached the point of violence. If someone was

445
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 1>assessed as high risk, they would now be subject to

446
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 1>more intensive police scrutiny. But for Celeste and her family

447
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>it had come too late. The review into her murder

448
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>revealed what many already suspected, that stalking allegations in Victoria

449
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:48.039
<v Speaker 1>were often trivialized and victims like Celeste were left to

450
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>fend for themselves. Instead of police filing orders, the burden

451
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:55.839
<v Speaker 1>was on victims to apply for them. Many never did,

452
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 1>many didn't know how to, and even when they did,

453
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 1>enforcement was inconsistent the best. The Victorian Law Reform Commission

454
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>issued forty six recommendations in total, including the police initiate

455
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>intervention orders on behalf of victims, that officers received better

456
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:17.519
<v Speaker 1>training in recognizing and responding to stalking, that the overwhelmed

457
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 1>intervention order system be overhauled, and that the public be

458
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 1>better educated on what stalking actually entails. All of these steps,

459
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>it was hoped, would prevent another tragedy like Celestes, but

460
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>as the reforms moved forward, Seko's case remained in limbo.

461
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:42.079
<v Speaker 1>In May, two expert psychiatrists gave conflicting assessments. One believed

462
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Sego was fit to stand trial, the other disagreed. He

463
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>was still in isolation, still refusing to take his medication,

464
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>still claiming the prison staff were trying to kill him.

465
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.079
<v Speaker 1>One psychiatrist warned that if Seko simply agreed to take

466
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the medication he was rejecting, he would likely become competent

467
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 1>enough to face court, But for now he remained locked away,

468
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 1>and the decision on his fitness to stand trial rested

469
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>solely with the judge. If that judge ruled he was unfit,

470
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Seco could be detained under the Mental Health Act, but

471
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>that detention wouldn't be permanent. He could be released in secret,

472
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>with no accountability and no justice, and that to Celeste's family,

473
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>was an unbearable prospect. In March of twenty and twenty three,

474
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:41.519
<v Speaker 1>more than two years after Celeste was taken, Leay Seko

475
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 1>finally changed his play. He appeared in court and pleaded

476
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 1>guilty to the murder of Celeste Mannu, her mother Agi

477
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Saj just feed away from the man who had taken

478
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>her daughter's life. She never looked away from him. Afterwards,

479
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>she said, I can't believe that this damon was actually

480
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>within reach. I just wanted him to feel that I

481
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.039
<v Speaker 1>never took my eyes from him. Seko never once looked back.

482
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>The guilty plague came after a long and winding legal process.

483
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>The previously scheduled fitness hearing had been vacated after further

484
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 1>psychiatric evaluations determined that Seko was fit to stand trial.

485
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>During those evaluations, Sego had attempted to claim that a

486
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>hallucination named Esha had appeared in his car that night,

487
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.519
<v Speaker 1>telling him he needed to act like a criminal and endeth.

488
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>He described Asha as a strange man with a big

489
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.359
<v Speaker 1>nose and large ears who coaxed him into the attack.

490
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>But the psychiatrist unanimously concluded that Sega was faking. They

491
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>noted that he exaggerated his symptoms and made inconsistent statements.

492
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 1>In one disturbing comment, Seko remarked that Celeste appeared larger

493
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.559
<v Speaker 1>than he remembered. He also claimed that when he saw

494
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the photo of Celeste and Chris, he believed that Chris's

495
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:02.599
<v Speaker 1>smile was laughing when niaclay at him. Despite the theatrics,

496
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.839
<v Speaker 1>the professionals agreed Sego was not suffering from psychosis at

497
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the time of the murder. His own defense attorney, Sam

498
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Norton conceded that the mental impairment defense could no longer

499
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>be advanced, and faced with no other legal option, Seco

500
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>pleaded guilty, but just three months later he changed his

501
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.199
<v Speaker 1>mind again. In a letter to the Supreme Court, he

502
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>asked to dump his lawyer and revoke his guilty play.

503
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 1>He wrote the last hearing where I pleaded guilty, that

504
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:33.079
<v Speaker 1>decision was made on the day of the hearing. I

505
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>felt I was under pressure and still haven't had my

506
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>answers met to Celeste's family. It wasn't much of a surprise,

507
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Aggie said, He's been playing the system for two and

508
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.280
<v Speaker 1>a half years because of all the loopholes available to him.

509
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Seko then retained a new defense attorney, Tim Marsh, who

510
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>requested yet another mental competency evaluation, But days later Marsh

511
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>informed the court that Sego no longer wished to revoke

512
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>his guilty play. The delays only continued in January twenty

513
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 1>twenty four, just as the case appeared ready to move forward,

514
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Sego dumped his defense attorney again, this time declaring he

515
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 1>would represent himself at a pre sentencing hearing. He addressed

516
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the court directly. He claimed that his former legal team

517
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>had undermined him and that he disputed the forensic evidence

518
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:27.599
<v Speaker 1>regarding Celeste's injuries. In one of the most shocking moments

519
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 1>in court, Seko said, I know and believe I only

520
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 1>inflicted two wounds and that the twenty one other wounds

521
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:39.639
<v Speaker 1>were a result of class inflicted injuries. It was a cruel,

522
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:45.199
<v Speaker 1>delusional statement, and it devastated celeste family once again, forcing

523
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.519
<v Speaker 1>them to listen as Seko tried to rewrite reality and

524
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>reduce the brutality of what he had done. The legal

525
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 1>delays had dragged on for years, but finally a sentencing

526
00:35:56.280 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>date was approaching, and for the Manu family, after years

527
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of agony, justice was now within reach. The sentencing fates

528
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>finally went ahead on the twenty ninth of January. The

529
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.360
<v Speaker 1>courtroom filled with celeste loved ones. The grief in the

530
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>room was palpable. The court then heard details of the

531
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:20.039
<v Speaker 1>stalking campaign that escalated into murder, and once again the

532
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Seco clung to his delusions. He maintained that he had

533
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:28.079
<v Speaker 1>only stabbed Celeste twice, insisting that the remaining twenty one

534
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 1>stab wounds had been caused by broken glass when he

535
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 1>smashed through her bedroom window, But forensic pathologists doctor Paul

536
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Bedford firmly dismissed that claim. He told the court that

537
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 1>no glass was found in Celeste's wounds and that each

538
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of the twenty three injuries had clearly been inflicted with

539
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 1>a knife. When Seco began cross examining doctor Bedford, Celeste's

540
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>family walked out of the courtroom. Security footage was then presented.

541
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.360
<v Speaker 1>It showed Seco running from his car to Celeste's front door,

542
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>knife in hand. He disputed that as well. I say

543
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that I walked briskly, he told the court. Then came

544
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:13.639
<v Speaker 1>the testimony of doctor Rajen Darjy, a forensic psychiatrist who

545
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>had assessed Seku. He testified that, in his opinion, Seco

546
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:21.199
<v Speaker 1>had been driven by jealous rage after saying a photo

547
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of Celeste with her new boyfriend, a photo that, in

548
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>his words, was the straw that broke the camel's back.

549
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Dorgy diagnosed Sego with a severe personality disorder, depressive disorder,

550
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and body dysmorphia. He added, I've never seen anyone with

551
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 1>such an extreme personality disorder who wasn't also psychopathic. He

552
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>said that during the murder, Sego was not only filled

553
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 1>with rage, but also wanted to erase the entire situation.

554
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.599
<v Speaker 1>That's why he committed the murder, in my view, he said.

555
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Georgie also testified that Sego posed a moderate to

556
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.559
<v Speaker 1>high risk of stalking again, and if he did, there

557
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>was a high risk of serious violence. He said this

558
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.679
<v Speaker 1>risk extended even to female prison staff if they showed

559
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 1>him kindness. He said, I'm not saying he will, but

560
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.159
<v Speaker 1>if dynamics similar to those that led to the offending

561
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 1>happen in prison, you can see it happening. The court

562
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>also heard chilling evidence of premeditation. Months before the murderer,

563
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Segu had purchased the knife, he had tracked down Celeste's home,

564
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 1>examining floor plans to determine her bedroom, and repeatedly drove

565
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.639
<v Speaker 1>past the house to confirm her location. The prosecution argued

566
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that this demonstrated clear and deliberate planning. Then came the

567
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 1>most emotional part of the hearing, the victim impact statements.

568
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Celeste's father Tony spoke about the life he had lost.

569
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:50.679
<v Speaker 1>The opportunity to walk her down the aisle and watch

570
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>her grow into a mother was taken from me. My

571
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>heart will be broken for the rest of my life.

572
00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Her mother, Aggie, addressed the court next. She said said

573
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>she didn't know him and she didn't want to know him.

574
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>He was a co worker to her, nothing more. He

575
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a boy friend, an x or a friend. She

576
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't provoke or insult him. She had no interest in him,

577
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:16.360
<v Speaker 1>and he couldn't accept that. Aggie then turned to Sego directly.

578
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>He sat at the defense table with his head bowed.

579
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.840
<v Speaker 1>She shouted at him to look at her, and then said,

580
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>look ahead, I'm here. You've got the scoutless wonder. I

581
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.679
<v Speaker 1>hate you, and the only other person I hate more

582
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:33.199
<v Speaker 1>than you is me. You extinguished one of the only

583
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>two reasons I lived for. She was everything to me,

584
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing to you. My Swede felt safe with me. I

585
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 1>thought she was safe with me, but she wasn't. Was

586
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>she I couldn't protect her from you. We had no

587
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>idea You knew where we lived. The one place we

588
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>felt safe was home. Seko began to shake his head

589
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:57.119
<v Speaker 1>and then in a disturbing scene, started violently hitting the

590
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.559
<v Speaker 1>side of his head with his own hand. Aggie looked

591
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.159
<v Speaker 1>directly at him and said, you're a bast You're an evil, repulsive,

592
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:09.639
<v Speaker 1>demonic bast. She begged Justice Stixon to impose a life

593
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:14.199
<v Speaker 1>sentence without parole. Justice Stixon then handed down her decision.

594
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.079
<v Speaker 1>She said she had taken the victim impact statements seriously.

595
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>She acknowledged the immense pain that Siceco had caused. She

596
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 1>noted the guilty plea, but emphasized that the murder was planned, premeditated,

597
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and carried out with chilling efficiency. She said, to Siko,

598
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you made sure you had the advantage over her. She

599
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>acknowledged that he suffered from mental illness, including depression and

600
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:42.039
<v Speaker 1>a personality disorder, but she said these didn't excuse or

601
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:46.079
<v Speaker 1>philly explain what he had done to Celeste. Justice Dixon

602
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.119
<v Speaker 1>described the murder as utterly cowardly, and then, in a

603
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 1>move that shocked many in the courtroom, she granted leniency.

604
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>She cited Sicco's mental illness's grounds to moderate his sentence.

605
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Segu was then sentenced to thirty six years in prison

606
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:07.400
<v Speaker 1>with a non parole period of thirty years. He could

607
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>have been sentenced to life without parole. The courtroom was stunned.

608
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Outside court, Aggie held the speech she had prepared, expecting

609
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.639
<v Speaker 1>a life sentence. She ripped it up instead. She said,

610
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>we were forced to trust the system that we lost

611
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>faith in three years ago. It failed Celess then, and

612
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:32.159
<v Speaker 1>it failed her again. Now today's outcome proves just how

613
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:38.599
<v Speaker 1>flawed the justice system is. Visibly distraught, she continued, protecting

614
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<v Speaker 1>the community from monsters like siegu was clearly not a

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<v Speaker 1>consideration of the court. It's outrageous, absolutely unbelievable that the

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<v Speaker 1>court decided to grant him mercy, even though he showed

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<v Speaker 1>Celeste nun quite clearly his right to mercy was more

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<v Speaker 1>important than her right to life. Well, that is it

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode of Morbidology. As always, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for listening, and i'd like to say a massive

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to my new supporters up on Patreon, Linnea Whitney,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Brittany, Tanika Barrett, and Juny. The link to Patreon

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<v Speaker 1>is in the show notes. If you'd like to join,

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<v Speaker 1>release and bonus episodes. Remember to check us out at

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<v Speaker 1>morbidology dot com for more information about this episode and

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<v Speaker 1>to rate some true crime art. Until next time, take

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<v Speaker 1>care of yourselves, stay safe, and have an amazing week
