WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.639 --> 00:00:06.839 Welcome back to the Nightcap on seven hundred wlw our 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:09.640 next guest I had the chance to speak to the 3 00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:10.240 first time. 4 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:13.199 Gosh, it's been maybe four or five years ago. 5 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:17.960 And not because I haven't thought about having her on 6 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:22.920 again since, but there's been no better time to talk 7 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:29.679 about Canada to a Canadian and anti feminist of the 8 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:34.079 author of Girl Wrights. What that's a YouTube channel and 9 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:38.600 it's back. Karen Strawn is back on the Nightcap. Welcome back, 10 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:39.439 Karen Strawn. 11 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:40.679 How are you in? Happy new year? 12 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:45.560 Oh, happy new year to you and I'm doing just great. 13 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:47.200 Yeah, mom of three? 14 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:52.640 And basically, what is the thing you say about your 15 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:58.359 average feminist the radical notion that anti feminism is the 16 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:01.359 radical notion that women are are actually adults. 17 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:06.239 Yeah, yeah, women are adults, or at least they should 18 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:12.959 aspire to be so, right and feminism feminism doesn't help them, no, 19 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:13.680 achieve that. 20 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:15.239 It takes away that notion. 21 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:20.439 Another good reason that the man who has been Prime 22 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:23.840 Minister of Canada through a very dark period in your 23 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:28.159 country's history is finally stepping down and he's a feminist. 24 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:29.200 He confessed it. 25 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:34.239 Oh no, no, no, here's the thing. Okay, I don't 26 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:37.640 know whether how much you Americans know about Maggie Trudeau 27 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:41.280 his mother. Right, So Pierre Elliott Trudeau was the Prime 28 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:46.159 Minister of Canada in like the nineteen late nineteen sixties, 29 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:53.680 early early seventies, right, and yeah, Maggie Trudeau his wife. Like, 30 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:57.680 there's rumors going around that Justin is actually Fidel Castro's son, 31 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:05.040 which I wouldn't. I don't necessarily, I'm not that skeptical 32 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:10.639 about that conspiracy theory because the Trudeau's were very friendly 33 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:15.280 with Castro and visited him often, and Castro was very 34 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:19.960 happy to see Justin and dandle him on his knee 35 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:23.639 during a visit when Justin was just a baby. And 36 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:26.919 you look at the resemblance and it's uncanny, right, he 37 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:31.240 doesn't look anything like Pierre Trudeau. He looks everything like 38 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:35.159 a young Sidel Castro. Right, But but you look at 39 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:40.800 you look at her behavior. You know, she's bipolar, has 40 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:45.360 probably has borderline personality disorder, and she h you know, 41 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:48.680 the second time her husband was sworn into office, she 42 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:52.199 was busy partying with getting drunk with friends in Cancun 43 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:56.319 or something, some Cabo or something like that. Then she 44 00:02:56.439 --> 00:03:01.680 disappeared for like three weeks or a month and people 45 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:04.960 were asking Pierre, you know, the media was asking Pierre 46 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:08.800 where her wife, like where is she? And he just 47 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:10.800 had to say, no comment, no comment, because she was 48 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:14.719 off banging the rolling stones while they were on tour. 49 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:16.960 Right, right, okay? 50 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.199 And Justin Trudeau said his mother was the one who 51 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:24.319 taught him what feminism was all about. Right, and that 52 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:26.800 was my first red flag. The moment he said his 53 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:31.520 mother taught him what feminism was all about, I was like, oh, 54 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:37.120 it's about mental illness, all right, yeah, okay, and you're 55 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:41.639 still embracing it. You call yourself a feminist, all right? No, 56 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:42.960 no red flag. 57 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:49.560 So yeah, Well, more to the point of looking to 58 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:52.960 the future. You know, we are in the United States, 59 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:56.759 we are very much looking forward to next Monday and 60 00:03:56.800 --> 00:04:00.680 what comes after with President Trump returning to the presidency 61 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:05.840 and starting to starting the office with the bang something 62 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:08.800 like one hundred executive orders to undo all of the 63 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:13.439 craziness and nonsense that occurred during the Biden administration's four years. 64 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:17.800 You too, are looking with a hopeful nod to the 65 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:22.079 future in Canada, not necessarily to be our fifty first 66 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:28.519 and fifty second state, but a new leader taking Justine 67 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:34.319 Trudeau's place as Prime minister of your country and the 68 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:37.879 Conservative Party, and after all of the stuff that Justin 69 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:41.920 Trudeau pulled, especially during COVID and the like with the truckers, 70 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.240 that this is going to be a major seed change 71 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:46.560 politically in. 72 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:49.399 Your country, is it not? 73 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:51.000 Oh? 74 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:55.000 Yeah no, I mean, anybody, anybody in America who wants 75 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:59.879 to actually find out what the new regime is going to. 76 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:02.399 You should go to. 77 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:08.199 Go on YouTube and search Pierre Poaliev. 78 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:12.399 P O I L I E V R E. 79 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:16.279 And then the video title is how do you like 80 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:17.439 them apples? 81 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:18.399 Okay? 82 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:23.600 And uh, And he's dealing with a leftist reporter and 83 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:26.680 he's while he's eating an apple. He's eating an apple. 84 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:31.879 I saw, I saw that. I saw that. It's amazing school. 85 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.800 Yeah, yeah, no, it was. It was unbelievable. I I 86 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:38.920 would just I sent it to all of my friends. 87 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:40.800 I was just like, you gotta watch this. This is 88 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:44.759 amazing because he's just like he just doesn't put up 89 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:48.000 with any bs, right, He's not going to be He's 90 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.720 not going to back down from being called racist or 91 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:54.600 sexist or this or that, you know, like bigots or 92 00:05:55.079 --> 00:06:00.519 you know, anti Semite or like anti Muslim or you know, 93 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:04.079 transphobic or anything like that. He's he's just like, yeah. 94 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:05.720 No, no, give me an example, give me. 95 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:07.680 An you brought it up. 96 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:10.079 You have to you have to have wanted at least 97 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:16.000 one example, right, And so yeah, No's he's like a 98 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:20.319 no Bs kind of leader. And you know, like I 99 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:24.480 don't agree with him on everything, but but as far 100 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:29.439 as his ability to maybe take this country forward in 101 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:33.079 a new direction, I think that that's that's a good thing. 102 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:37.319 And you know, like our economy is is absolutely like 103 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:41.199 we got we got hit with COVID, inflation and all 104 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:46.160 of that, right, but our woes were well underway long 105 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:51.399 before COVID, Right. You know, the Trudeau government was you know, 106 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:55.959 began in twenty fifteen, and and that's when housing prizes 107 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:00.240 started to rise, because regulations for new housing developments just 108 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:04.160 exponentially increased. And it takes like twenty one years or 109 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:06.839 nineteen years or something like to get any kind of 110 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:13.639 project approved at this point. And so it's basically you're 111 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.920 looking at a situation where the government is standing in 112 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:20.319 the way of progress and is doing it for like 113 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:28.079 absolutely stupid reasons. And you know, like I'm just looking 114 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:34.279 forward to in March twenty fifth, Parliament is in session 115 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:38.920 again and there will be a motion of no confidence 116 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:43.439 and that motion will be passed, and that will topple 117 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:46.680 the government and will trigger a snap election within fifty 118 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.680 one days. That's the deadline, fifty one days at most, 119 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:52.639 and then we'll have a new leader. 120 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:57.639 So well, they Trudeau said that he would stay on 121 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:02.639 until the party picks a new leader. Are they waiting 122 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:05.560 from word from President g and China as to who 123 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:06.519 the new leader will be? 124 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:11.240 No, No, this is business. The way Canadian politics works. 125 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:14.240 The new leader has to be elected by the Liberal Party, 126 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:18.759 right justin Trudeau is leader of the Liberal Party, and 127 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:23.600 he can't just hand off the job to his deputy 128 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:27.839 prime minister and walk away. He actually actually has to 129 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.720 stay in office until a new leader is picked. And 130 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:34.120 there are some people who are in the running, you know, 131 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:38.759 but I can't some people, like notable people like I 132 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:42.399 think Mark Carney, who was like the governor of the 133 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:46.279 Bank of Canada for a while, and Chris jah Freeland 134 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:49.440 who was deputy Prime Minister and Finance minister for a while. 135 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:54.440 But you know, honestly, I don't think that there's any 136 00:08:54.559 --> 00:09:00.120 salvaging the party at this point. Fifty one days is 137 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.360 is it's I mean, like everybody's complaining Kommala only had 138 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:08.440 one hundred days right to rehabilitate the Democrat brand in 139 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:12.039 terms of the presidency, and none of these people who 140 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:19.200 were actually involved in Canadian governance associated with Liberals are 141 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.879 going to be able to rehabilitate the Liberals brand within 142 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:23.240 fifty one days. 143 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:26.960 Well, it sounds similar in this country because many of 144 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:30.240 people are saying that the Democrat Party in our country 145 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:35.159 is going to take twenty years to recover. I'm not 146 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:40.039 that optimistic. I think they'll come back like any scourge, 147 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.039 like herpes and kudzu. 148 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:49.240 But I would would I would expect that the Liberal 149 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.639 Party this coming election right whenever it's he it will 150 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.279 probably be held in spring. I would expect that they 151 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:00.879 might even be in danger of losing official part status. 152 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:06.039 You have to have a certain number of seats in 153 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:10.879 parliament and a certain amount of the popular vote in 154 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:16.120 order to have official party status. And I have seen 155 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:21.480 Liberal governments lose official party status after running a majority government. 156 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:23.559 Multiple times. 157 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:30.279 In provincial politics, right Ontario, when Doug Ford ran for 158 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:35.159 premier against Kathleen Wynn, you know, and she had just 159 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:41.360 governed so poorly for four years that she took She 160 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:45.840 single handedly took the Liberal Party of Ontario from the 161 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:50.480 majority party in government to losing official party status in 162 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:55.080 like a massive landslide for Doug Ford of the Conservative. 163 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:56.600 You brought it, You brought up Doug Ford. He was 164 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:58.200 quite the character, wasn't he. 165 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:01.519 Oh no, you're talking about Rob for. 166 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:04.759 Yeah, No, he was. 167 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:07.679 He was the mayor of Toronto and he was he 168 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:10.440 was actually, yeah, I don't know how clean I have 169 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:14.679 to keep this, so I don't necessarily know. Uh, you 170 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:17.360 know what, I'm what I can say that I thought 171 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:21.000 was hilarious about that guy, but there there were some 172 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:28.320 allegations and of of sexual impropriety against him. Untalented and 173 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:32.639 and uh and when he talked to reporters, I I 174 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:36.159 laughed so hard, right, I just like I'm alone in 175 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:40.600 a room, laughing my butt off right at his response 176 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:45.240 to like, you know, he said he wanted to eat 177 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:51.200 blah blah, and uh yeah and uh and and then 178 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.639 and then he says, when reporters asked him about it, 179 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:56.519 He's like, why would I say that I got plenty 180 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:57.279 to eat at home? 181 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:00.759 So perfect. 182 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:05.639 Karen Strawn is hard guest on the Nightcap from Alberta, Canada, 183 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:10.840 where it's actually warmer there than it is here because 184 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:15.720 they sent there they're cold here. So thank you. Karen Strawn. 185 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:23.320 I got to ask you too about Zuckerberg's cow telling 186 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:27.440 now to the new Trump administration and sucking up and 187 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:33.080 committing this money to the inauguration fund and saying that 188 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:37.639 he's going to get rid of DEI and Tampon's and 189 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:42.360 men's bathroom at Meta. I know you had some issues 190 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:47.159 in the past where you got kicked off YouTube. 191 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:49.679 And no no, I got kicked off of. 192 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:54.799 Twitter under Jack. It was one of the social media 193 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:56.159 things you got kicked off of. 194 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:00.480 Are you back on X now? 195 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.080 Oh yeah, yes, I am at girl writes what Elon 196 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.039 Musk reinstated my account? 197 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.600 Do you trust? You trust? Do you trust Mark? 198 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:16.799 Zuckerberg's a parent to come to Jesus moment with the. 199 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:20.519 Cautiously I cautiously trust him and you know why, And 200 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:26.639 I'll tell you why because it it wasn't that long ago, 201 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.240 like maybe a year or two ago, that he decided 202 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.799 he was going to get into like jiu jitsu and 203 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:40.720 mixed martial arts and working out and getting healthy and 204 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:46.159 one of the interesting things about men and testosterone is 205 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:54.279 testosterone gives you confidence. It increases your ability to if 206 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.399 your healthy testosterone increases your confidence, it loos your mood, 207 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:04.720 it it increases fairness in bargaining, and it deep all 208 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:11.159 serving lives. It's all documented in the literature. Okay, and okay, 209 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.639 And what is the number one thing that boosts your 210 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.919 testosterone levels to healthy? Winning? 211 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:19.639 Right? 212 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:23.559 Okay, winning in a way that you feel like you're winning. 213 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:24.399 Okay. 214 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:27.080 So he goes into the ring. 215 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:29.600 Right, and he's working out and he's getting healthy, and 216 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.600 you know, his testosterone is is coming up because of that. 217 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:34.840 And then he goes and he does a fight, and 218 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:39.120 he wins, wins fair and square, and and his testosterone 219 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:39.519 goes up. 220 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:40.279 Well. 221 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:47.320 Testosterone also increases rationality and helps you think, right, okay. 222 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.720 So so it's it's like he may have just through 223 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:56.960 this martial arts kind of I'm going to get fit 224 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:01.679 and healthy and uh and a healthy testosterone level and 225 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.440 have a healthy diet and stop eating soy and start 226 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:07.759 you know, doing jiu jitsu. 227 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:09.039 He may have. 228 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:13.399 It may have changed his entire perspective on you know, 229 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:15.480 how things should run. 230 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.159 So in fact, the fact that he is no longer 231 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:23.519 cultivating man breasts on himself actually is better for all 232 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:23.879 of us. 233 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.759 You know, well, if every man did that, we'd be 234 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:29.840 all a lot better off. 235 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:34.200 So yeah, I agree. Uh, I'm down to below an 236 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.240 a cup, so I'm in good shape. 237 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:37.320 Uh. 238 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.960 Well, you know, honestly, honestly, Uh, testosterone works on women 239 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.879 in these ways too, Reduction in the telling of self 240 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:51.919 serving lies, more rational thinking, greater emotional stability, and and 241 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:54.159 increased fairness in bargaining. 242 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:57.240 So so tell me about what all. 243 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:58.600 Of those things are men and women. 244 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.559 So tell me about what you're doing these days besides 245 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:05.759 being a mom and a wife and living in Alberta, Canada. 246 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:07.240 What else is Karen Strawn into? 247 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:09.000 Oh? 248 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:12.240 Well, you know I'm taken after. I'm looking after my mom, 249 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:16.320 and you know I'm looking after my my husband. And 250 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.559 you know, he's he's now the crime well the soul 251 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:24.879 breadwinner really in the household. And so but he's got 252 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:29.440 he's got he has special needs in terms of his diet. 253 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:33.000 So I do a lot of cooking and and uh, 254 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:36.440 and I I've been talking about Anybody can check out 255 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:40.639 my blog. It's called Owning Your s h one t 256 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:43.840 but the one is actually an eye. 257 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:46.519 Dot blogspot dot com. 258 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:51.960 And but uh, you know, I did a deep dive 259 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:55.919 into the m RNA vaccines and how they work and 260 00:16:55.960 --> 00:17:00.200 why they're causing so many problems, and you know, I 261 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.639 I've just I've just been kind of all over the 262 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:06.279 place in terms of you know, since COVID, I kind 263 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:09.680 of I was like, my men's rights and anti feminist 264 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:12.559 thesis is mostly up on my channel. Anybody can go 265 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:15.119 and start watching from the very beginning and see my 266 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:19.160 evolution of my thesis throughout the years that I was 267 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:24.039 doing that, and uh and yeah, no, but I sort 268 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:29.519 of got into discussing, you know, how how the mRNA 269 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:34.799 vaccines and the adino virus vector vaccines actually work and 270 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:41.599 why they cause so many more problems than traditional conventional vaccines. 271 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:46.039 So anybody who's interested in that can go in and 272 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:49.759 read my deep dive into the mRNA vaccines. 273 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:53.039 And that would be on Girl What Writes What or 274 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.759 would be owning no that? 275 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:57.160 Oh yeah no, no, I would never put it on 276 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:00.599 my YouTube channel. I would risk losing the entire channel. 277 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:05.240 I put it on my blog, owning your you. 278 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:09.160 Know whatsh Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, Karen. 279 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:14.640 Stropot dot com blogspot dot com. Yeah, all right, thank 280 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:16.759 you so much, and I hope we'll have another chance 281 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:21.920 to commits maybe after your maybe after your your government 282 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.640 meets there in March and we decide how Canada is 283 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:27.160 going forward with a new leader. 284 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:29.119 I'm looking forward to that for you. 285 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:33.720 I oh god, I'm I'm so looking forward to it. 286 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:36.559 And I'm looking forward to forward to it for the 287 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:39.799 rest of North America's sake to Karen. 288 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:44.319 Karen, thank you so much, thank you very much. All Right, 289 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:47.519 you bet it's the nightcap and we're not done yet. 290 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:54.559 Stick around. Yes, it is time for more sports for 291 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:57.680 the out of sorts and to sort it out. The 292 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.799 one and only Andy Furman who here to rock the 293 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:05.319 kasma on the nightcap on this Tuesday night. Andy, you 294 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:08.720 were worried about the snow showers that we were forecast 295 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:10.920 to get, and I guess we got a few flakes 296 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:15.480 around and that's not just in the news department, but 297 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:20.680 we had it. But as I told you just moments ago, 298 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:25.039 when you've survived a foot you can handle a dusting, 299 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.440 can't you. I know you didn't come out of your 300 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:29.200 house for about you didn't come out of your house 301 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:30.039 for about five. 302 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:34.960 Days, right, I bunker down pretty good, really, And the 303 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:37.160 point is this, I don't want to take a shot 304 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:40.880 at a profession because everybody who's a professional in life 305 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:43.400 has trained to do so, and it is their love, 306 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:50.240 is their passion. Correct if they're not good at and 307 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:52.759 I'm not saying good bit or indifferent, but it is 308 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.720 the greatest job in the world. In baseball, if you 309 00:19:55.799 --> 00:19:58.200 go three for three for ten and they got seven 310 00:19:58.279 --> 00:20:00.960 times in your career, you probably end up in the 311 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:01.640 Hall of Fame. 312 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:03.640 Which is a three hundred hitter, no doubt. Okay. 313 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:06.359 In the weather forecasting, if you go three for ten, 314 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.119 maybe not so good. I understand it changes. You know, 315 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:13.480 you're in the mountain areas. I mean, you have different 316 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:17.240 wind shifts and whatever. I get it. But it's the 317 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:20.319 greatest job in the world because there's no accountability. That's 318 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:22.440 why I want to have a job in life when 319 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:24.839 I grow up. If I were to grow up again, 320 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:28.119 but there's no accountability. Think about it. Do you think 321 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:31.279 the news director at a TV station calls the weatherman 322 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:34.000 and said, wait a minute, you predicted six inches of 323 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:36.559 snow and we've got a dusty You are fired. We 324 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:39.359 want to get a new guy in football. This accountability. 325 00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:43.119 Lejana Rumo was a scapegoat at defensive coordinator for the Begels. 326 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:46.039 The Bengals defense stunk. He paid for it. He lost 327 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:49.680 his job. In the weather forecasting business, there's no accountability. 328 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.039 It's a great job. I should have won that route 329 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:53.720 and I'm sure they get paid good money. 330 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:57.279 When a TV weather man is no longer on screen, 331 00:20:57.319 --> 00:20:59.680 it means one of two things. They've gotten a better 332 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:02.000 job somewhere else, or they're retired. 333 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:05.440 That's it, because you don't. 334 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:07.759 You don't get fired for for not being able to 335 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:10.519 forecast the weather if you're a media You know, I 336 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:11.559 love Gary Burbank. 337 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:13.880 I loved him to death. I know you did too, 338 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:16.799 and I used to love the fact. 339 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:19.799 Do we dos passed? 340 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:20.119 No? 341 00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:22.759 No, So we do love Gary Burbank. But one of 342 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:24.839 the things he used to do on his show all 343 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:30.000 the time was refer to someone as the cheap media urologist, 344 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:34.000 right instead of. 345 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:35.599 People. 346 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:38.880 I love Steve Rawley, you know, I go to the 347 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:41.960 montgomer unity of Sigardener. He's a I love the man. 348 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:44.119 I love all the weather people in town that they're 349 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:46.759 They're wonderful. But the point is this, I think they 350 00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:50.200 know what I'm saying is probably true. There's no accountability 351 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:51.240 there really isn't. 352 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:51.759 Well. 353 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:54.079 I mean, when there's a no doubter like what we 354 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:57.559 experienced last week, they nail it to the wall so 355 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:01.000 that so that I think that buys them time on 356 00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:03.839 the next time they forecast something and it does not 357 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:04.720 come true. 358 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:06.920 It's not an easy job. Really. 359 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:09.559 You say you want to have that job, but it's 360 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:13.400 not an easy job to accurately because. 361 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:16.960 When there is a big, a big weather change, these 362 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:19.240 guys what they do at these the men do they 363 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:21.319 take their sport code off and roll off their shirt 364 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:24.359 sleeves like they're getting into the trenches really big time. 365 00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:26.079 And they got to put the time in. I mean, 366 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.039 you know guys like Steve Horsmeyer. I've seen him on 367 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.839 Channel nineteen. He'll spend the night. He'll spend two or 368 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.480 three days at Channel nineteen. I could tell because he's 369 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:35.559 wearing the same clothes for three days. You know. Really 370 00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:37.640 they spend the time there. They sleep at. 371 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.680 The station like seg for example here. 372 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.359 No, he doesn't drive it. He stays home. He stays 373 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:47.000 in the middle of the well. Tell me I never 374 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:49.240 used to drive into the state. Look when I went 375 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:51.920 at seven hundred, they didn't have the ability to do 376 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:55.160 remote broadcasting. You couldn't do it from home, right, you know, 377 00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:57.359 I don't think he does. I think he does it 378 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:01.279 by phone. There's a on Fox Sports radio. I do 379 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:01.839 it from home. 380 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:04.759 There's there's a hotel right next door, Andy. You know, 381 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:08.000 you could just stay in the hotel overnight so you 382 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:08.920 could be ready. 383 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:12.799 Where there were big storms, the staff would stay in 384 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:15.160 a hotel and the tab would be picked up at 385 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:17.559 the station. Those days are probably long gone. 386 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:22.839 Well, in my particular case, I would have been staying 387 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:25.559 at the hotel, but I'm broke, and nobody offered to 388 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:26.160 pay for my. 389 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:30.000 Hotel, but the management would pay for them. No, no, no, 390 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:34.319 that's that's not. 391 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:35.279 That's not that's not an option. 392 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:38.200 But anyway, you know, I've talked with some some friends 393 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:40.880 of mine and they want to file a class action 394 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:46.400 lawsuit against weather forecast Is for bad forecasts, because no, look, 395 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:51.319 you plan something and then they tell you that you 396 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:53.119 can't do what you would plan to do, and you 397 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:55.720 put all kinds of money and time aside, and then 398 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:59.680 that event doesn't happen, and the weather event doesn't happen, 399 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:04.640 So then you're you're out. You're financially hurt by their 400 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:08.079 their faulty forecast. Don't you think that in our relgigious 401 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:09.759 so that nobody agree with you? 402 00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:11.759 And all of a sudden, the light has gone off 403 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:14.759 with my small pea brain. You know it's gonna happen. 404 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:15.440 You know it's next. 405 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.440 They're gonna sue fans of the NFL. They're gonna sue 406 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.319 when they do these flexing of the games, flexing of 407 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:23.920 games down the stretch. When you buy a ticket maybe 408 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.559 for a one o'clock afternoon game, maybe late in the 409 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.559 season in Green Bay, and they decide to flex it 410 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.119 for like a Monday or Sunday night game when it's 411 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.400 minus seven degrees and you really don't want to sit 412 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.279 there in minus seven degrees in green Bay, Wisconsin in 413 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:40.599 November December. Well they may do that as well. 414 00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:43.720 Obviously there'll be no one sitting in green Bay, Wisconsin 415 00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:44.839 anymore this season. 416 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:48.880 How about well, at least at least in lambeau Field. 417 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:53.640 I was really andy, let's just talk about the NFL 418 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:55.640 for just a moment, since you brought up the NFL. 419 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:01.599 I was I was shocked last night. I was on 420 00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:03.240 the air, but I was keeping an eye on the 421 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.480 final playoff game of wild Card weekend. I was shocked 422 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:13.039 to see how badly Minnesota showed after a fourteen win season, 423 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:17.000 and Sam Donald and particularly showed after proving. 424 00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:22.160 Critics you weren't that surprised. I don't put all the blames. 425 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:24.119 Don't put the entire blame on Sam Donald. Was that 426 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:26.680 authensive line was pretty weak? They really were. Now, Sam 427 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:28.960 Donald had a real bad performance last week. And you 428 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:32.000 know what, what you could say about Sam Donald right 429 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:35.200 now is like every time he's on the field, he's 430 00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:38.720 losing millions. He's losing millions. Okay, because here's a guy 431 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.279 who they talked about the comeback player of the year 432 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.960 and the guy who had the opportunity to play and 433 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:46.880 and everything like that. I think right now there's a 434 00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:49.559 lot of questions in the minds of the Minnesota Vikings. 435 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:51.599 Is he the guy that leaders in the future. Is 436 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:54.519 he the quarterback? Is he the so called franchise quarterback, 437 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.799 which in fact he was not anyway, because they drested 438 00:25:56.839 --> 00:25:58.400 the kid out of note to Dame who got hurt. 439 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:01.720 So I think there's a questions. But you get fourteen 440 00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:04.640 wins and then they were the wildcard team. There's something 441 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.519 wrong with the scheduling anyway. What they should do, they 442 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.359 should do it like the NBA has it, regardless of 443 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:14.039 division that you're in. Do the rankings by teams, as 444 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:17.160 far as what ranking you are, as far as the 445 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:22.079 placement and standings overall, not by the division that you're in. 446 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:24.640 That's what the NBA does. But I don't think they're 447 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:27.240 going to change that. However, I was not that surprised. 448 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.000 I don't tell you. Just get the Rams some credit 449 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.319 with that young defensive line that they have. Chris Shuler, 450 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:36.400 the son of Dave Shuler, a defensive coordinator, has done 451 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.960 a remarkable job over there. And I'll tell you something 452 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.599 else about the Rams. They started one and four that 453 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:44.000 had a slow star like the Bengals. Sean McVay is 454 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:46.559 one hell of a coach, one hell of a coach, really, 455 00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.279 And I'll tell you what they may be reckoned with 456 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:50.799 in the playoffs. But the big game coming up this Sunday, 457 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.480 Buffalo playing who. 458 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:55.480 The Baltimore Ravens. 459 00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:57.960 Well, that's a heck of a game. The two so 460 00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:01.319 called quarterbacks who may be envy, Yeah, I. 461 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:04.319 Mean if Joe Burrow had been on a playoff team. 462 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:07.000 He would have been in that discussion as well as. 463 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:07.400 We well know. 464 00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:09.440 But the queen had balls. 465 00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:13.559 The queen you mentioned that Chris Shula, the son of 466 00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:17.359 Dave Shula, the grandson of Don Shula. 467 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.279 Correct, correct, All right, yes, you know. 468 00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.440 Uh, coaching greatness, like a lot of other talents, generally 469 00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:30.240 skips a generation because David did not exactly should not 470 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:37.000 exactly demonstrate his father's prowess in leading men in the 471 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.079 National Football League, particularly in Cincinnati. 472 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:41.079 Uh. 473 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.400 Did Dave Sula ever have a head coaching job in 474 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:44.839 the NFL after the Bengals. 475 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:46.079 I don't think he did. Did he know? 476 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:47.839 He went back, He went to the restaurant business, who 477 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:48.759 were immediately after. 478 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:50.720 That's where he belongs. 479 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.119 And I don't want to believe with the point because 480 00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:56.160 the season's over. I wrote about it. It was in 481 00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:59.480 Sunday's inquiry about Zach Taylor is the heck of a magician. 482 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:00.480 He created magic. 483 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.839 He took a super Bowl potential team in seventeen weeks 484 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:05.640 and could him out of the playoffs. That's that's a 485 00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:08.480 magician's trick, and that's what he did. So we move 486 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.279 on over there. But here's the deal. The problem is 487 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.839 with the Bengals, you need to hire an experienced coach. Sure, 488 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.920 you picked Zach Taylor off the staff of Sean McVay 489 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:20.200 in LA with the Rams, but he was nothing more 490 00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.079 than a quarterback coach. He wasn't even a coordinator, right, 491 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.519 so he basically learning is learning his skill on the 492 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.799 job training with the Cincinnati Bengals. You know, the guys 493 00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.680 that really and truly were coaches who had success on 494 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:36.920 this team were who, Okay, Forrest greg I mean, the 495 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:40.839 guy was tough, had coaching background. The guys who were coaches, 496 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:46.200 the guys coaching wise, guys who are coaching experience, you know, 497 00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.279 not guys who are neophytes who had no idea you 498 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.039 know what to do. I mean, I give Marvin Lewis credit. 499 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.680 He did well. Why he was a defensive coordinator at least, 500 00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:56.880 and he had success. He did, you know, go to 501 00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.400 the Super Bowl. But he had some success. 502 00:28:58.400 --> 00:28:59.920 I'll tell you what coach. 503 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:04.480 I'll tell you one coach that really hurt his legacy 504 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.680 as a head coach and experienced coach was Dick lebou 505 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.440 when he came from Pittsburgh and became the head coach 506 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.799 here was that was a terrible tarnishing of a great 507 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.079 man's career because. 508 00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.240 No, but he went down to Tennessee became defensive coordinat 509 00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:22.480 He did well there as well. Was a heck of 510 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.640 a US defensive geis he really was. But I'm looking 511 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.000 at coaches overall. I'm seeing, you know, what's happening, the 512 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.119 floundering of coaches. And when they come in and they're announced, 513 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:36.640 everybody goes crazy. Everybody's smacking their lips. And one of 514 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.759 those coaches right now I'm pointing a finger on it 515 00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:42.240 is West Miller at the University of Cincinnati. I'm not 516 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:46.440 that excited about what he's accomplished thus for he ran 517 00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.200 up ten wins on a preseason schedule. You get into 518 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.240 that tough Big twelve conference, you know they can't compete. 519 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:55.079 They're not competing. They can't compete. They look dismal against 520 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:57.519 Kansas over the weekend. And I'll tell you something else. 521 00:29:57.799 --> 00:29:59.799 I'm going to throw something out here that's going to 522 00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:02.000 make your heads. Did I think it's time to bring 523 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.640 Bob Huggins back. How do you like that? I think 524 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:05.960 it's time to bring Huggins back? 525 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.720 What all right? 526 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.880 First ball, you've thrown down the gauntlet. Now I need 527 00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:12.759 a moment to think about it. So we'll take a 528 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:16.480 quick break and we'll we'll talk about Andy's plan to 529 00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:21.279 save the University of Cincinnati hoops team, and it involves hugs, 530 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:24.799 Hugs Baby, Hold on a second more of than nightcap 531 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:28.920 just ahead on seven hundred WLW kick. In this conversation, 532 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:34.720 he suggested that Bob Huggins should return as UC's had 533 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:35.759 basketball coach. 534 00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:39.480 You're your reasoning in your rationale, Andy. 535 00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.200 Well, quite obvious. 536 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.799 I mean the guys that seven hundred plus wins, so 537 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.240 Hall of Fame coach hasn't lost as a coach. He's 538 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.799 built winning programs at Kansas State, built him at the 539 00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:54.640 University of Cincinnati, West Virginia. I mean, he's won wherever 540 00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:58.599 he's been at. His problem was not the coaching aspect, 541 00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.680 his personal life. Now he's been out now close to 542 00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.519 two years, going on two years. Certainly I believe he's 543 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:06.759 put down the bottle. I think he's dried out. I 544 00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.119 think he's somewhat learned his lesson. He realizes he probably 545 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.240 missus the sport. I still think he's in an age 546 00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:15.000 right now, and I don't even like to bring up 547 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.319 the term age because I think Anybody who has their 548 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:19.519 wits about them, who has love for what they do, 549 00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:22.039 can do it. Bill Belichick will coach again in the 550 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.839 National Football League, and he's pushing seventy three, So I 551 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.279 got to believe that he's ready, willing. Abel will be 552 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.160 open with open arms here, welcome with open arms at 553 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.799 the University of Cincinnati. I think he could do more 554 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.559 than West Milica ever accomplished it. 555 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.519 Well, you know, you know what keeps Bill Belichick young 556 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.039 at seventy three, twenty four year old? Yeah, it's a 557 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.920 twenty four year old girlfriend. That'll definitely ask Marty Brenneman 558 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:52.599 about that. Just find some young honey, some younger honey, 559 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.000 and you know, it's like the fountain of life, because 560 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:58.119 you better be ready when they're ready. 561 00:31:58.440 --> 00:31:59.799 By gosh, you know what I mean. 562 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.319 Marty Brendan's name up because he he has one too. 563 00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:07.279 No, he's got a young wife, though much younger than Amanda. Oh, 564 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:11.079 you know, that's the fountain of youth right there is 565 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.039 Your wife. 566 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.200 Is and my wife is nine years younger than me. 567 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.000 Yeah, that's about the way Christ two point zero and 568 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:23.720 i Aret and and basically people call me a cradle robber. 569 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.319 And she says no, I'm a grave robber. 570 00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:30.240 I understand what you're saying. 571 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.640 No, But I think that I think Bob Huggins will 572 00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.240 do one thing that Wes Miller will never do. I 573 00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.880 think he'll rally the alums, rally the troops, get the 574 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:41.279 fans in there and pack them. And more than that. 575 00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:43.759 You know, in this day and age, when you recruit 576 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.160 a player, they don't care about if you're on TV, 577 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.640 what schedule you play? Am I going to start? What's 578 00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:50.480 my check? How much am I going to make? And 579 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:54.079 I think by Huggins rallying the troops, they'll have that 580 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:56.440 nil money and they'll be able to get some big 581 00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.759 time players and pay him to come to the University 582 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:00.440 of Cincinnati was the only where they did. 583 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:03.519 What was the biggest knock on Bob Huggins as a 584 00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:07.599 coach and recruiter. He did not graduate his players under 585 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:11.319 the ncua A rules of what's a graduated player and 586 00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:13.559 it had to be a four year senior and all 587 00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:17.400 this he had. He had tons of transis as far today. 588 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.880 The university knocked them on that the press. He got 589 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.400 in trouble. That's how he lost his job. He got 590 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.400 in trouble. He was always someone off the court problem. 591 00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:30.000 He never ever was criticized his coaching ability. 592 00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:30.519 Recruiting ability. 593 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.119 Yeah, there were people in the beginning his first year 594 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.079 here when he brought in the junior college players. Oh, 595 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.200 look what he's doing junior And then you know what 596 00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.599 everybody did. Then Xavier started doing it. They were bringing 597 00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:42.240 into coast. 598 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:42.839 It to be. 599 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.880 It was ingenius. It was you know. May he rest 600 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:48.960 in peace. Herb Jones was a junior college player, Terry 601 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.160 Nelson's junior college player. Thro all these junior college players 602 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:53.880 in here, and he was ripped for it, and then 603 00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.640 everybody followed suit immediate. 604 00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:58.920 Here's another. 605 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.200 Here's more gris for the middle of your argument of 606 00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:05.400 bringing Hugs back, it would seem in this day and age, 607 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.360 with the transfer of portal and the nil Huggs will 608 00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:10.039 be a perfect replacement. 609 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.880 I agree with you. I mean he would, right. I 610 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:15.920 didn't throw this out. 611 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.679 Because because now it's all out in the open, right. 612 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.480 But I didn't throw it out to destroy west Miller 613 00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:26.039 because I personally I never met the man, and he's 614 00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.039 probably a very nice man. He went to North Carolina. 615 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:32.000 He's got the good big blue hierarchy with you. William 616 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.960 Dean Smith whatever it may. However, he's not Bob Huggins. 617 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.519 He's not going to be a Hall of Fame coach. 618 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.079 He never will be, and I think that he cannot. 619 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:41.679 You know, he'll always be in the shadow of a 620 00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:43.719 Bob Huggins. He can't do what Bob Huggins could do. 621 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.360 Bob Huggins could take this team to the level or 622 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:46.920 it should be. 623 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:50.159 One of the things I love talking to you about, Andy, 624 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.239 and the reasons I enjoy talking to you is that 625 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.159 you often bring up other things outside of the realm 626 00:34:56.199 --> 00:35:00.559 of sports, you know, in the societal vein, like the 627 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:02.800 fact that you just were talking to me a few 628 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.199 moments ago before we got into this conversation about how 629 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:12.119 nobody can read cursive anymore, and there is a desperate 630 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.320 search for people who can read cursive. I could barely 631 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:18.800 write cursive, even though I was taught to in school, 632 00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.159 which they don't even teach it anymore in school. That's 633 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.400 one of the reasons nobody can read cursive, but I 634 00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:27.599 was taught it. I always had problems with the letters 635 00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:31.519 that had the really weird squiggles, like the capital g's 636 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.079 and the capital z's and stuff like that. 637 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:35.719 But I can read cursive. 638 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.480 Fine, So you say there are jobs open for people 639 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:39.719 who need to read cursive. 640 00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:42.920 I just saw a new report today. I think it 641 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:47.840 was on Good Morning America actually, and basically there's some 642 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.679 documents of former presidents I don't know how many years 643 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.679 back that are written in cursive and they can't be deciphered, 644 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:57.719 and they want to hire people that know how to 645 00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:02.280 read cursive writing that could kind of decipher what was written. 646 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:04.039 This is it's unbelievable. 647 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:04.239 Now. 648 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:11.760 Is this is opposed to documents against I don't know, Well. 649 00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.960 This is opposed to documents written by Joe Biden that 650 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:15.719 are in crayon. 651 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:16.800 People can read. 652 00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.360 Those, but well, he chiseled them on stone. I think 653 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:20.360 I don't know what he. 654 00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.000 Chizzled them on the stone. 655 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:24.800 I don't know what he did. 656 00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.559 So, no, you're right about the cursive thing. They stopped 657 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.320 completely teaching cursive in schools, and that's one of the 658 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.840 things that are argued about as far as the fall 659 00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.119 of academia in the United States, and it's been a long, 660 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:43.239 precipitous fall since the institution of the Federal Department of 661 00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.920 Education in nineteen seventy nine. We went from number one 662 00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:50.159 in the world. Then we're number twenty four and we've 663 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:53.880 spent all this money. We had this big bureaucracy federally 664 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.199 and it's just gone straight down the crapper. And part 665 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:03.400 of it in clue the lack of teaching of cursive 666 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:08.159 and the insistence that students learn how to read and 667 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:13.119 write cursive. And it's just because it's hard and they 668 00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.039 don't want to challenge the students, students who are having 669 00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:20.039 a hard time putting two and two together. Literally, it's 670 00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.880 just too difficult to make them learn how to write 671 00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:25.800 and read cursive language. 672 00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.079 What do you think, Well, here's a deal with cursive 673 00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.639 number one. I think they've eliminated with all. Some schools 674 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.480 are bringing it back now. I think they eliminated. It's 675 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.199 reply because when you do so much work on a 676 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:41.239 laptop or regular this top computer is non cursive. That's 677 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.360 the reason why. And if they put it in cursive, 678 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.840 obviously people or youngers, the younger generation, you can't read it. 679 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:47.199 Then. 680 00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:49.719 I used to read incursive. It's like a foreign language. 681 00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.079 But I was reading some information about the benefits of 682 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.800 cursive writing. They say it trains the brain to learn 683 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.400 functional specialization, it improves memory, it improves fine motor skills, 684 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.559 meaning that's students who have illigible print often have legible 685 00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.559 cursive handwriting. It's unbelievable, and obviously it's useful for us 686 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.679 in later life. Look, I'm going to say something that 687 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:11.840 probably no one ever does anymore. You want to sign 688 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.719 a check you probably sign it in cursive writing. Although 689 00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.199 I don't think many people use check books anymore. You know, 690 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.440 they do a vemo whatever. Well, except everything is done electronically. 691 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.599 I mean they don't. They don't even have a checkbook. 692 00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:25.400 That's the thing that I am proficient in. 693 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:29.159 I am proficient in cursive in signing my name, I 694 00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.559 got that. But the rest of the time you're mostly 695 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:36.039 going to get block printing for me, because I'm a blockhead. 696 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:36.880 I guess. 697 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:37.760 I don't know. 698 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.639 No, don't say that, but I think that. I think 699 00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.679 it's important that right now, I like to find out 700 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.320 if there are jobs available about reading cursive because I 701 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:45.679 know I. 702 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:46.239 Could read curs it. 703 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:48.320 I read, I can read it all day. 704 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.039 About that. I never thought of the fact that if 705 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.880 you're not teaching it, there's a real good opportunity, real 706 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:54.960 good chance that people won't be able. 707 00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:55.199 To read it. 708 00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.920 You never thought that they can't. You never thought about 709 00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:01.119 that really apparently no, I mean nobody at the Department 710 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:07.519 of Education did either. Right, Yeah, So, I mean, what 711 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:09.440 do you look for next week in the playoffs. Let's 712 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.559 a real quick Well, we got a couple of minutes here. 713 00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.840 Uh, do the do the Bills Baltimore? 714 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:15.159 Yeah? 715 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:18.599 Do the Bills survive at home? The Bill survive at home? 716 00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:21.559 Baltimore is better. 717 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:26.400 I love Baltimore, I love I love Lamar Jackson. I 718 00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.480 I just wish him someone who But I just hate 719 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.800 when the media says he can't win the big game. 720 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:34.440 I mean, I understand, the position of quarterback is everything. 721 00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.880 You know, you win, it's on him. You lose, it's 722 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.599 because of him. I mean, and you know as you go, 723 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.039 so goes to quarterback, that's it. But you know, to 724 00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:43.960 put that kind of pressure on a guy like that 725 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.920 and what he's accomplished, I just don't think it's fair. Look, 726 00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:49.360 if they lose, the headline is not going to be 727 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:50.480 so much Buffalo wins. 728 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:52.039 Here we go again. 729 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:56.239 Yeah, Okay, the lion The lions devour the rams, just 730 00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:57.039 like in nature. 731 00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.840 Right, It's gonna be a good game. 732 00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:01.679 I don't know. I mean the Lion's obviously not in 733 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:04.000 full strength. I have been full strength for several weeks. 734 00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:05.880 But it could be one heck of the game. I 735 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.760 just you know the Rams, when you you're in the 736 00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:10.480 you're in the playoffs, so you get a little bit 737 00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:12.679 of a momentum and you get the push. And the 738 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.119 Rams got it, and they got it last night. Boy, 739 00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.719 I tell you what, they could be tough. Matthew Stavord's tough. 740 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:20.000 I mean, and you have the storyline over there, I 741 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.679 mean Golf, Gad and Stafford. I mean, it's gonna be 742 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.280 a great game to me, you know, I think I'm 743 00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:28.239 like the entire America is through. They all want to 744 00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.599 see the Detroit Lions win. They've become like the new 745 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.079 America's team. So I'm pulling for the Lions. It's more 746 00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.000 of a heart overhead move. But I want the Lions 747 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:37.039 to win. I think they can't. 748 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.639 Oh, I believe they can. And uh, you think the 749 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:40.400 Bengals will win? 750 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:41.960 Yeah? 751 00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.199 You know what, they haven't won in the lottery, to 752 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.320 have the won in the draft, to have a one 753 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.800 on the field. I honestly, you know when in the 754 00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:51.960 years past, when I when I was at the big one, 755 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:53.760 when they had, like, you know, the lost years of 756 00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:55.840 the nineties early two thousand. 757 00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:57.440 Again. 758 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:01.199 Yeah, I didn't really care, you know, Sure I do. 759 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:02.440 A couple of the guys, the team and. 760 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:03.840 The vultures of the world. 761 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:05.480 You know, he was a Freid he still is and 762 00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.000 Tom Tinkles, all those guys, but I didn't. 763 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:09.000 Take it to heart. 764 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.559 I take it to heart now with Joe Burrow, I 765 00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:13.800 feel for the guy, you know, and Jamar Chase, I 766 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:15.440 just feel for the bo's so good. 767 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.320 Those guys do not They don't deserve it. They don't 768 00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:21.840 deserve it. Andy, we deserve more time. But it's it's 769 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.760 up now, So thank you very much for filling it. 770 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:27.159 Thank you all right, right, thank you. 771 00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:31.679 God bless Remember, folks, you can't spell Furman without f you. 772 00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:36.480 The Nightcap continues, news, traffic and weather. 773 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:42.400 News Radio seven hundred WL Cincinnati. 774 00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:47.760 Hey, contentious hearing with the ten o'clock report. I'm Sean 775 00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:51.119 Gallagher breaking now. It was a tenth showdown on Capitol 776 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:54.639 Hill today between Democratic lawmakers and President ELEC. Trump's Defense 777 00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:58.800 secretary nominee, former Fox News host Pete Hegseth during a 778 00:41:58.880 --> 00:41:59.679 Senate confirmation. 779 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:00.239 Here from the. 780 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.559 Outset, Democrats making their objections clear. 781 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.320 I do not believe that you are qualified to meet 782 00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:07.400 the overwhelming demands of this job. 783 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:11.079 Hegccept casting himself as the victim of false and anonymous smears, 784 00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:13.559 but often finding himself on the defensive. 785 00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.880 Particularly concerning the role of women in the military. 786 00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.960 Last year, hegset said point blank women should not be 787 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:21.320 allowed to serve in combat. 788 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:22.800 ABC News is Rachel Scott. 789 00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:26.880 Hegseth also questioned about allegations of public drunkenness, which included 790 00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:30.960 drinking while on the job, sexual assault, and financial mismanagement. Meanwhile, 791 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.400 Republicans on the Senate Armed Services Committee rallying around hegset 792 00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.199 Now the latest traffic and weather together right now, taking 793 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.840 a look at the major interstates and highways, not seeing 794 00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:41.920 any new accidents. 795 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:44.840 Now the latest forecast from the No Fear Dentist Weather 796 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:48.480 Center advanced dentistry. The thought of the dentist making you 797 00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:51.639 a nervous wreck. We're here for you, No Fear Dentist 798 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:52.480 dot com. 799 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.039 It is our Wednesday morning. 800 00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:57.719 We're looking at clearing skies and a morning low of 801 00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:02.079 four degrees. However, when chills five to ten below zero 802 00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.400 as for our Wednesday fair and a high at twenty one, 803 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.280 wind chills in the teens at night. Mostly clear. We 804 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:13.079 dropped to twelve from your severe weather station. I'm nine 805 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:20.559 first Warning Chief Meteorologist Steve Rawley News Radio seven hundred wlw's. 806 00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:23.239 Mostly clear right now and our current temperature is thirteen degrees. 807 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:26.400 Some schools across the Tristate already announcing delays for Wednesday 808 00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:28.199 morning due to the cold weather. The fullest can be 809 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.719 found at seven hundred WLW dot com. City leaders today 810 00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:33.800 cutting the ribbon at the new Eastside Rec Center in 811 00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:37.199 Oakley at Cincinnati's first new recreation center to open since 812 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.360 twenty sixteen. Located on Packston Avenue, It's next to the 813 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.679 Oakley Playground and Community Pool. Former Special Council Jacksmith and 814 00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:46.960 his report saying that President ELEC. Trump would have been 815 00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:50.000 convicted of multiple felonies had his case against Trump gone 816 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:53.320 to trial over his attempt to overturn the twenty twenty election. 817 00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:57.559 Suggesting his evidence was overwhelming, Special Council stating Trump directed 818 00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.639 the angry mob to the United States Capitol to obstruct 819 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.480 the congressional certification of the presidential election. 820 00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:05.679 We're gonna walk down and I'll be there with you. 821 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:10.039 Trump's supporters storming the Capitol, some channing hang Mike Pins, 822 00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:14.519 but Trump has maintained his innocence throughout and stated that 823 00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:17.400 he never intended for his supporters to commit violence. 824 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:22.000 AVCWS is Pierre Thomas College basketball Xavier tonight picking up 825 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.320 a win over Villain Nova as they will take on 826 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.599 Marquette on Saturday, and that'll be on fifty five KRC 827 00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:33.599 with tip off coming up. Will be coming up at 828 00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:37.599 two o'clock that afternoon, sixty nine sixty three final from 829 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.280 Sintas Center. Meanwhile, Kentucky currently number eight in the country, 830 00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:44.719 beating eleventh ranked Texas A and m eighty one sixty 831 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:48.039 nine at Rparina this evening. Our next update is at 832 00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:52.039 ten thirty. I'm Sean Gallagher News Radio seven hundred WLW. 833 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:56.239 This report is sponsored by Cordell and Cordell, Cordell and Co. 834 00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:00.719 It is the Night Camp on this too day evening 835 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:05.880 on seven hundred WLWGJ Dubbs at your service and Dave 836 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:09.639 Hatter joins us for this half hour segment Tech Talk, 837 00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:14.199 whatever scary stuff out there in the world of the 838 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:18.800 Internet of Things and the one that sadly we well, 839 00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.800 sadly for me because I'm a dinosaur. Dave loves it 840 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.480 because this is what he does, and he's trying to 841 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:28.000 beat the bad guys all the time, writing code and 842 00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:31.719 such and alerting you and me to the things we 843 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:37.320 should be wary of in cyberspace. And I tell you what, Dave, 844 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:41.480 let's start with some small bean stuff, but it could 845 00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:45.599 be big beans for anybody who's affected. I don't know 846 00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:51.280 how often I have seen someone at the bar when 847 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:57.880 I'm working at a restaurant or just killing time, literally 848 00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:04.519 killing time, saying candy Crush. Well, here's the danger in 849 00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.599 candy Crush said, I'm just playing a game. How how 850 00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:12.719 harmful could that be other than making your mind total mush? 851 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:16.480 But the headline is Candy Crush, Tender my Fitness Pal, 852 00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:21.360 which I don't know what that is, and I don't 853 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.559 use Tender because my wife would find out, and Candy 854 00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:31.280 Crush just as I'm not into it. But the thousands 855 00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:34.800 of apps that you've got on your iPhone or on 856 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:40.000 your Android that are hijacked to spy on your exact 857 00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:41.840 location being tracked. 858 00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:47.480 Uh, let's talk about that, that element of candy crush, 859 00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:48.719 if you will for a moment. 860 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:50.760 Yeah, I love too, Garrit. 861 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:51.119 Yeah. 862 00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:53.199 First off, Happy new Year to you and all your listeners. 863 00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.519 And you know, maybe maybe for these segments we ought 864 00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:57.800 to call it Scary Jeff and Doomsday Days. 865 00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:02.480 No, wait, that's it. That's it from now on. Write 866 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:07.960 that down Scary Jeff and Doomsday Dave and Dark Talk segment. 867 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.360 I love that, bringing me to do You know, usually 868 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.239 I pride myself in branding the segments on my show, 869 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:18.159 but you have just usurped me as a branding genius 870 00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:19.280 with that, Dave Hatter. 871 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:21.519 All right, go ahead, I appreciate that. 872 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.320 So Wire did this story and you know this is 873 00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:26.679 the kind of thing so you mintioned it before Gary Jeff. 874 00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:28.119 Just so what it's worth. This is what I do 875 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:29.880 for a living, you know, and in trust, we're trying 876 00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:33.679 to protect businesses and their assets from the ever increasing 877 00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:37.519 frequency and impact of devastating cyber attacks, amongst other things. Right, 878 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:40.199 so you know I'm working in this deal every day. 879 00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:42.440 I'm paying attention to this stuff all the time because 880 00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:44.800 I care about it for our customers. I care about 881 00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:47.440 it for myself and my family and my friends, and 882 00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:50.719 I care about it for our society. A guy I'm 883 00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:53.360 a big fan of, a guy named Niko Hapenden, he's 884 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:57.159 a well known and cybersecurity expert, gave a Ted talk 885 00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:59.320 where he's standing in front of a large screen that says, 886 00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:03.440 we're no longer protecting computers, We're protecting society. And because 887 00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.199 everything is digital, and because everything is interconnected, and because 888 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.400 our supply chain is all interconnected and relies on this stuff, 889 00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:12.239 it's really true. So when people say to me, oh, 890 00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.159 I got nothing to hide, and why do I care 891 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:18.199 if these apps are collecting data? I totally understand why 892 00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:21.320 people feel that way. And I think perhaps even if 893 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.480 you let me, you know, have thirty minutes of your 894 00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:25.559 time to show you all of these things and explain it, 895 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:27.159 some people are still going to say, yeah, I just 896 00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.639 don't care, it's not relevant to me. But the real issue, 897 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:33.599 I think, Gary Jeff, is that most people don't really 898 00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:37.519 understand how invasive these devices and these apps are that 899 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.039 they're installing and putting in their house and so forth 900 00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:44.320 their workplace, and how this data can eventually be used 901 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:49.960 against them. So this again Wired story Repidable outlet, they're 902 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.840 pointing out how when you download these apps to your phone. 903 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:56.079 And one of the reasons why companies love apps is 904 00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.039 because they can collect enormous amounts of data. I encourage 905 00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:02.039 people go to the Apple App Store. A couple of 906 00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.679 years ago, Apple rolled out this Apple App Tracking Transparency 907 00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:09.159 framework where you, as a developer that wants to distribute 908 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:13.199 apps to Apple devices, must disclose the information you want 909 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.519 to collect. So they have something that kind of looks 910 00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:17.920 like a nutrition label on the side of a can 911 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.599 at a Kroger store, okay, and it tells you what 912 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.719 is being collected by given apps when you go to 913 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.039 their apples, go to the app Store, and you go 914 00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:25.920 to download an app, you. 915 00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:26.440 Can look at this. 916 00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.280 I don't think most people do. I don't think most 917 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.880 people are even aware of this is a thing, but 918 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:33.480 it can be really insightful because you can look at 919 00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:36.519 privacy family apps like Proton, which I use for email. 920 00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.599 It collects virtually nothing. And then you can look at 921 00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:43.039 privacy unfriendly apps or what I would describe as CCP 922 00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:46.599 spyware like TikTok or Tamu in your pocket and it's 923 00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:49.280 collecting everything. I mean, I think most people if they 924 00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.360 look at the list of things that are being collected 925 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:53.679 and then really put some thought into it. And one 926 00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:55.920 of the things that this Wired article is pointing out 927 00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.400 is common apps, right, Candy Crush, it's a game tender, 928 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:02.679 it's a dating my Fitness Pal, it's an app designed 929 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:06.039 to help you track and manage your fitness. Right. These 930 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:10.280 are not designed as spyware per se, and there's no 931 00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.519 one making any allegations that these companies are necessary being 932 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:17.679 anything that ferries. But everyone needs to understand these apps 933 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.960 are free because you are their product, not their customer. 934 00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:24.679 They're monetizing your data. They're collecting data for their own 935 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:28.000 internal uses. They're collecting data to try to sell you stuff. 936 00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.800 It's when that data gets sold, So pick a reputable 937 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.559 company if they're selling your data. And many of them, 938 00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:37.400 if not most of them, are to data brokers, which 939 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.760 gets us to Gravity Analytics, a data broker that was 940 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:44.679 recently hacked. They specialize in location data. Well, now your 941 00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:48.480 data everywhere you go all the you know, is it 942 00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:50.880 helpful to you perhaps as let's say you're in a 943 00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.519 domestic violence situation that your ex could potentially see everywhere 944 00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:57.880 that you go. Probably not. Is it helpful to you 945 00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.639 when you go to get a job, for your prospective 946 00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.199 employer to basically see that you're going to places that 947 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.280 they might not approve of and don't hire you as 948 00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:06.719 a result. 949 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:07.719 Probably not. 950 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.159 Are these realistic examples of how this data could be used? 951 00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:12.039 Yes? They are. 952 00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:14.719 So you know, the point that Wired is trying to 953 00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:19.480 make is by using these apps, which seem innocuous, you 954 00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:22.480 are potentially giving up information which has then sold or 955 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.039 leaked and comes back to buy two ways that you 956 00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:27.800 might not understand. And if you did, you'd stop using 957 00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:28.360 these things. 958 00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:34.559 Well, just playing Tandy crush Dave. Yeah, let's move on here. 959 00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:39.320 You mentioned just before we started this evening and asked 960 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.480 me if i'd seen the interview with Christopher ray on 961 00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:45.880 sixty minutes this past Sunday where he said the same 962 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:48.760 things that you and I have been talking about for 963 00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:52.400 four years, but finally saying it out loud, about the 964 00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:58.960 danger of the threat from communist China. Any Yeah, you 965 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.599 want to elaborate that a little bit just for a moment. 966 00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:06.280 I do, because it's it's really disturbing stuff. And while 967 00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.199 there's not much each one of us can do as 968 00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:11.840 an individual, there are things we can do to, you know, 969 00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:15.039 try to secure our data, reduce our digital footprint, stop 970 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:18.840 using apps and platforms that are coming from China where 971 00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.199 they have access to your data and propagandize you. But 972 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:25.320 you know what Director Ray has pointed out, and you know, 973 00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:28.280 I follow what the FBI is putting out a lot 974 00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.280 because it's important to our business intrust and our customers, 975 00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:33.639 and it's you know, it's important to me trying to 976 00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:36.519 understand where are the risks? And you know what, how 977 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.719 can I use what little influence I have to try 978 00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.559 to get people to take this stuff seriously? And you know, 979 00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:45.119 I've seen him say that he believes, based on their research, 980 00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.760 that China has like a fifty to one advantage in 981 00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:52.079 terms of their offensive hackers versus our defensive people. So 982 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.000 think about that fifty to one. Obviously, no one really 983 00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:57.480 knows for sure. But the point is, and this is 984 00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.920 all well documented. They have made huge investments and training 985 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:06.760 people to have you know, extensive advanced cyber skills. They're 986 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.559 deploying those people to cause havoc all around the world. 987 00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:12.960 They're stealing trade secrets, they're stealing military secrets. It's no 988 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.159 coincidence that all of their new military gear looks exactly 989 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:19.519 like ours. They're stealing this stuff, right, It's a lot 990 00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.000 cheaper to break into someone's network and steal some secrets 991 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.440 that saved you years and billions of dollars in research 992 00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:28.440 than to do it yourself. Right, So it's it's there. 993 00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:31.920 We're being attacked, I would argue Gary, Jeff honestly, you know, 994 00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:35.119 we're in a cold war with the Chinese Communist Party, 995 00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:37.960 have been for a long time, and you know, more 996 00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:41.800 high profile people are increasingly raising the alarm about this. 997 00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:44.519 And you know, he went on sixty Minutes this last 998 00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.960 week and basically kind of put it all out there. 999 00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:51.280 You know, I'm quoting to you from a Stars and 1000 00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:55.360 Stripes article referencing that sixty minutes interview. I encourage everyone, 1001 00:53:55.480 --> 00:54:00.000 Jill watsinon themselves. China cyber program has already infiltrated critically 1002 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.440 American infrastructure and it's poised to quote Greek havoc unquote, 1003 00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:06.599 at a whim, the outgoing FBI director told sixty Minutes 1004 00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.280 during the interview with Scott Kelley. Ray said Beijing can 1005 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.639 leverage these programs to target water treatment plants, the electrical grid, 1006 00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:18.079 natural gas pipelines, telecommunications of other systems. China has already 1007 00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:21.000 pre positioned malware to quote lay and wait on those 1008 00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:24.159 networks unquote, where it can quote inflict real world harm 1009 00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:27.039 at a time and place of their achieving unquote. And 1010 00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:30.320 you know, we've seen these stories come out recently about 1011 00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:33.159 now virtually every major telecom network in the country has 1012 00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:34.039 been infiltrated. 1013 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:34.760 You know. 1014 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.960 The our security agencies have attributed that to the Chinese 1015 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:41.960 Communist Party. You know, and when people say, well, what 1016 00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.559 does that mean, well, think about this garriage, Jeff. For years, 1017 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:48.960 the FBI in particular has railed against end to end 1018 00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:51.840 encryption because it makes it very difficult for them to 1019 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:54.960 get information they need on law enforcement. They recently come 1020 00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:58.400 out and said, because of the PRC infiltration in these networks, 1021 00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:00.639 that everyone should switch to end to end and crypt 1022 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.679 the apps like signal. So they've done a whole one 1023 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:05.960 eighty on this thing because this infiltration is so severe, 1024 00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:09.920 not dimension all these telecom networks make it possible for 1025 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:12.159 all of these systems to talk to one another. So 1026 00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:14.960 if you could knock out the teletom network, you would 1027 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.280 probably take down the electrical grid and gas powered transmission 1028 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.719 plants and all this other stuff because they would have 1029 00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.920 no way to communicate anymore. So it's a serious problem. 1030 00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:28.719 And you know the answer is awareness and now pressuring 1031 00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.960 your officials at every level to take this seriously and 1032 00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:36.960 make the investments we need to stop this before catastrophally happens. 1033 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.079 And again, don't take my word for it. See what 1034 00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:40.079 your own government say. 1035 00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:44.840 You mentioned and he mentioned malware already in place, laying 1036 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:48.760 in weight. How do you find that dormant malware before 1037 00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:51.400 it it inflicts the damage. 1038 00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.880 Well, that's an excellent question, and it can be really 1039 00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:59.400 tricky depending on what it is and where it's implanet. 1040 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:00.159 Know. 1041 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:02.719 One of the concerns that people like me have raised 1042 00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:04.320 for a long time, and one of the reasons why 1043 00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:08.920 I'm the big proponent of on shoring manufacturing, especially in electronics, 1044 00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.119 is so that you're not getting products that have chips 1045 00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.719 in them or software and then or both to have 1046 00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:17.840 back doors and logic bombs. You know. Logic bomb is 1047 00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:20.119 sort of an old school name for somewhere deep down 1048 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:24.159 inside my code, I've put something bad and either you know, 1049 00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:28.519 I can trigger it myself, or I could set some sort. 1050 00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:28.920 Of future date. 1051 00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:31.119 At this date and time, this thing is going to happen. 1052 00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.000 And if you're going to delete all the files on 1053 00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:36.000 the server, or ecrypt all the files or whatever it's designed. 1054 00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:39.360 To do, the kind of like the hypnotists and says, no, 1055 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:42.639 when I snap my fingers, you're going to remember this 1056 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:44.320 and you're going to do this. 1057 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:46.960 Kind of like that. 1058 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.679 That's a good analogy. And you know, when we're buying 1059 00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:52.039 all this equipment. Now, you know, we have banned the 1060 00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:55.679 whole categories of equipment like Huawei, you know, in the 1061 00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:58.480 telecom network, but there's there's tons and tons of the 1062 00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.519 stuff out there. TP Link Router recently come under fire. 1063 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:04.599 There's tons and tons of this stuff out there. Unless 1064 00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:06.719 you go through every line of source code, you can't 1065 00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.760 know for sure. So it's hard. And part of the garage, 1066 00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:13.280 Jeff is having people trained to look for the stuff, 1067 00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.280 having people trained to know how to remediate it and 1068 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:19.480 mitigate it when you find it, and you know, having 1069 00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:23.719 the training, the resources, the money to pay people to 1070 00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:27.039 do this before this all goes bad. And you know, 1071 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:30.480 the thing that's the most scary to me is not 1072 00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:32.840 that this has happened, and you know we're probably doing 1073 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.760 it to them as well. You know, hopefully we are 1074 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:38.800 for mutually assured destruction, just like you know the nuclear 1075 00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:42.559 persons exactly. But the thing that's the most scary to 1076 00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:44.880 me is a guy who spent twenty five years building 1077 00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:48.719 custom software for businesses. You know what, sometimes software doesn't 1078 00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:51.400 work the way you expect, And could you have some 1079 00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:53.679 sort of logic bomb in there and you don't ever 1080 00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:56.519 trigger it, but something goes wrong and it somehow goes 1081 00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:59.320 off on its own. Yes, you know, you could bring 1082 00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:04.239 these systems down without intentionally doing it because of some mistake. 1083 00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:07.679 Look at what happened with CrowdStrike. CrowdStrike is a company 1084 00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:12.039 that makes software designed to help businesses protect their confidentiality, 1085 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:16.440 integrity and availability of their information and their systems. So 1086 00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:20.880 they actually created a denial of service attack essentially because 1087 00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:23.119 they rolled out software that had some bugs in it 1088 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:27.760 and brought down roughly ten million Windows based computers. So 1089 00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:30.719 when you say this sounds far fetched and crazy, day, Well, 1090 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:33.199 there's a real world example of a trusted company in 1091 00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:36.239 the business trying to help you protect your systems to 1092 00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:40.440 actually create a denial of service attack. So you know, 1093 00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:43.880 if they're in there and they've planted this malware, logic bomb, 1094 00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.199 whatever you want to call it, could it somehow go 1095 00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:49.960 wrong without it being intensely treated. Yes, it could. So 1096 00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:53.880 to me, I hate to always be the tenfoil hat guide. 1097 00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:56.239 But it's scary stuff and we have got to get 1098 00:58:56.280 --> 00:59:01.280 really really serious about taking this head on, making the investments. 1099 00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.239 You know, it's funny we see to have billions of 1100 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:06.719 dollars to send all into the world, including the countries 1101 00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.760 that hate us, but nothing for our own infrastructure and 1102 00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:11.320 for solving problems like this. 1103 00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:16.760 Well, Dave, Dave, they passed an infrastructure bill that did 1104 00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:19.760 not address this one iota. 1105 00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:25.599 Yeah, because we're not taking it seriously, and we really 1106 00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:29.320 need to get serious about addressing this before task if 1107 00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:33.400 it happens, whether it's intentional or or it happens unintentionally 1108 00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:35.639 because of the infiltration in these networks. 1109 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:38.679 Talking with Dave Hadder talking with Dave Hader in the Nightcap. 1110 00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:41.639 I'm sorry to interrupt, Dave. I want to get one 1111 00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:44.119 more story in before we're done, and I've got about 1112 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:48.079 two minutes for this, so in fact, will flip the 1113 00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:51.400 virtual coin doomsday. Dave, do you want to talk about 1114 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:54.760 the way moos self driving nightmare taxi ride or do 1115 00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:58.000 you want to talk about Apple having to pay almost 1116 00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:01.119 one hundred million dollars for Siri listening to your private 1117 01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:03.559 conversations in your own home, which one. 1118 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:06.719 Let's let's hit to Apple real quick, all right, because 1119 01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:09.920 when people have said for years, I think my phone 1120 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:12.360 is listening to me. And it's not just your phone, 1121 01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:15.599 it's any Internet of things, you know, so called smart 1122 01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:18.400 quote unquote device that has a microphone in it. 1123 01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:20.280 If it's voice activated. 1124 01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:22.159 It must be listening to you, right. It has to 1125 01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.280 be listening to you for you to say the wake word, 1126 01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:26.800 the hot word, the wake up phrase, whatever for it 1127 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:31.400 to engage. The real question is how tight is the 1128 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.800 window for what it will engage on? And then what 1129 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:39.440 happens to the recordings of whatever you've been captured saying? 1130 01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:42.639 And a per this lawsuit, it's a ninety five million 1131 01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:45.599 dollars settlement, which is laughable. You know, I think they 1132 01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:48.480 make that much money in like an hour. You know, 1133 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:50.960 we're exactly about twenty dollars per person in the class 1134 01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:53.519 action lawsuits. So that's what they value your privacy yet, 1135 01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:58.320 and you know Android is under some similar types of allegations. 1136 01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:00.639 But the bottom line is these things have to listen 1137 01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:03.920 to you. The question is what happens to you? Know again, 1138 01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:06.480 how often they activate? There was an interesting study several 1139 01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:09.000 years ago where they put a bunch of devices in 1140 01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:11.320 a room, turn the TV on and then monitor how 1141 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:14.199 often they activated. I think if most people saw that, 1142 01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:18.079 they would be shocked. And how loosely these things stick 1143 01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:20.840 to the wake phrase. And I mean this just proves 1144 01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:23.199 that for some time now again, you know, there's been 1145 01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.519 arguments that Facebook and other companies are listening and serving 1146 01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:30.400 up ads and so forth. Clearly it's a problem, and 1147 01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:33.559 folks need to understand if you're having a sensitive conversation 1148 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.519 in an intimate situation or whatever, if you have any 1149 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:41.960 sort of voice enabled devices nearby, they're possibly listening to you, 1150 01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:45.559 and that whatever it's recording may or may not be kept, 1151 01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:47.480 and it may or may not be kept forever. So 1152 01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:50.920 you should take that into account. When you have these 1153 01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:54.400 devices nearby and you know nothing else, get your fair 1154 01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:56.519 day cage bag for your phone. You can put it 1155 01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:58.079 in and that'll just cut off everything. 1156 01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:02.440 All right, So one word answer from you, Dave Hatter, 1157 01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:04.679 and I don't want to get you in trouble here, 1158 01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:10.519 but Mark Mark Zuckerberg and his recent reversals of policy 1159 01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:12.000 at Meta and Facebook. 1160 01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:14.239 Do you believe him? Do you trust him? Yes? 1161 01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:15.920 Or no? 1162 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:16.079 No? 1163 01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:22.480 All right, that's all we need answer. But no, do 1164 01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:24.960 not trust. Do not trust a man with a perm 1165 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:30.800 that looks that bad. I always say Doomsday Dave Scary 1166 01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:34.719 Jeff with Doomsday Dave on this Tuesday Nightcap. Thank you 1167 01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:36.719 so much, and happy New Year to you, my friend. 1168 01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:41.800 I look forward to many, many more entertaining and revealing 1169 01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:48.360 conversations in the year ahead, until until the technology decides 1170 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:49.239 to cut us off. 1171 01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:53.559 All right, all right man, thanks so much. 1172 01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.639 Dave Hatter with us on the Nightcap and will continue 1173 01:02:56.679 --> 01:02:59.519 in just moments on seven hundred W l W. You 1174 01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:05.320 won't want to miss the next segment America. 1175 01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.960 When I listen to Bill Cunningham, I feel better about America. 1176 01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:09.760 I feel safer. 1177 01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:11.920 You know why, because no one's ever been attacked by 1178 01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:16.559 sypholtic vampires while listening to Willie No what. 1179 01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:20.199 Godzilla's never attacked either. Everybody knows it. Bill Cunningham with 1180 01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:23.280 Jack ub Godzilla with his mighty fists of freedom. Bam 1181 01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:25.559 bam bam. Take that to your chum, Bill Cunningham is 1182 01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:26.000 all men. 1183 01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:30.679 Thank you, Bill Cunninghama. 1184 01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:34.199 Bill Cunningham tomorrow at twelve noon on seven hundred W 1185 01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:35.840 l W. 1186 01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:41.159 We're definitely going to be late to the concert. 1187 01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:42.880 I feel like we should be there by now. 1188 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:44.519 I'm just taking a little. 1189 01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:48.360 As we continue this Tuesday night Cap on seven hundred 1190 01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:53.000 w LW. The conversation continues, this time with an old 1191 01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.800 friend that I haven't had the chance of, haven't taken 1192 01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:58.719 the time to be more honest to talk to until 1193 01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:03.360 recently in the New Year. This is a guy who 1194 01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:07.119 I was introduced to actually by twenty nine, Tracy Jones, 1195 01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:11.480 good friend of his. He runs a well I'll let 1196 01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:15.039 him tell you about his business, his online business. But 1197 01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:20.320 his dad was I believe his dad was a firefighter. 1198 01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:26.199 So maybe some insights into fighting fires and preparedness in 1199 01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:30.320 the wake of the terrible wildfires that have victimized so 1200 01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:35.760 many of Southern California's citizens and palisades in Malibu and 1201 01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:39.360 the like. Jim Lewis, Welcome to the Nightcap. It's great 1202 01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:41.639 to have you on the air with me in Happy 1203 01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:42.440 New Year, my friend. 1204 01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:46.280 Hey, Happy New Year to you too, Gary, Jeff, It's 1205 01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:51.239 great to be on with you. Yeah, it's these fires. 1206 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:57.519 It's unbelievable. There's over there's fourteen thousand homes and buildings 1207 01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:07.639 completely destroyed. Yeah, uh ahead, uh, it's horrible. Yeah, and 1208 01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:11.840 you know my my my father. He had he was 1209 01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:14.599 a Cincinnati fireman and he had other businesses. 1210 01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:16.880 When when when I. 1211 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.079 Was a kid, and he would but he would work 1212 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:23.079 one one out of three days he was the fire department. 1213 01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:25.519 And I would see him come home. 1214 01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.199 Sometimes he'd be like in his uniform because I never 1215 01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.079 saw him in his uniform because he would always go 1216 01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:37.039 straight from the firehouse to his his companies. Uh the 1217 01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:40.679 you know, he'd keep working. But I would see him 1218 01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:45.360 in his uniform and he was inspecting fire hydrants. The 1219 01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:49.880 city of Cincinnati, they have to inspect all those fire hydrants. 1220 01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:52.679 They go there with tools, they crack them open. They 1221 01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:57.320 make sure you're able to access the fire hydrant. You 1222 01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:00.719 can't just leave these things alone, I mean they'll lock up. 1223 01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:05.320 They gotta have They check the pressure, make sure water's there, 1224 01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:08.679 so if there's a fire and they're needed, boom, they're 1225 01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:10.880 able to tap into it and put the fire out. 1226 01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:13.760 The main thing, the main thing is to make sure 1227 01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:17.840 there's water in the fire hydrant because otherwise they're just a. 1228 01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:21.880 Place for dogs to lift their leg. So please continue. 1229 01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:24.960 Exactly well, listen to this audio. 1230 01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:26.960 This is Kristen Crowley. 1231 01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:31.639 She's the chief, the fire chief for Los Angeles. 1232 01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:34.000 Listen to this, Okay, Thanktally. 1233 01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:36.880 I believe the anchors that wanted to ask a question 1234 01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:41.280 comments we do. If you could please ask. 1235 01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:44.320 Her regarding the Times article that came out that the 1236 01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.760 Santana's reservoir was close to repairs and it was empty, 1237 01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:49.719 one hundred and seventeen million gallons of. 1238 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:52.519 Water could have been used in this fight. The question 1239 01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:54.280 is about the Santa. 1240 01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:55.800 Emails reservoir being empty. 1241 01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:58.239 There's been a lot of questions. 1242 01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:04.119 So my stanceless is when a firefurter comes up to 1243 01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:06.599 a hydrant, we expect there's going to be water. We 1244 01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:09.960 don't control the water supply. Our firefetterers are there to 1245 01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:12.079 protect lives and property and it make sure that we're 1246 01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:15.760 properly trained in a quick that's my position on this. 1247 01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:18.480 So if there's no water, I don't know how the 1248 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.719 water gets to the hybrants. Please defer that to DWT 1249 01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:24.800 or whomever controls that part. But I can tell you 1250 01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:28.039 the resiliency of our firefurters. If there's no water, they're 1251 01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:30.079 going to go find water. They're going to figure out 1252 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:31.880 a way to do the best they can with what 1253 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.360 they've got in a very dynamic situation. 1254 01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:42.360 Yeah, they're going to get buckets. That's the most ridiculous deflection. 1255 01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:43.079 I've ever heard. 1256 01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:47.480 Now before before she was, before she was fire chief 1257 01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:51.519 in the LAFD, she was a deputy chief in charge 1258 01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:55.440 of what inspections. 1259 01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:59.000 Inspections correct, she was, she had she had two hundred 1260 01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:03.000 people under her and she was in charge of inspections, 1261 01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:08.280 inspections of buildings and fire hydrants. And then she'd be 1262 01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:14.320 she gets elevated to the chief and she completely she 1263 01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:17.520 just doesn't even drops the ball there. 1264 01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:19.920 So it's like but she deflects it. 1265 01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:20.920 She's like, I. 1266 01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:23.279 Don't know how the water gets to the hydrants. We're 1267 01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:26.720 not asking you that, but did you check the fire hydrants? 1268 01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.560 And then if there's no water, she got to be 1269 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:34.039 clanging the bell and going berserk about you know, we 1270 01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:36.039 need water to the fire hydrants. 1271 01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:37.239 This is nothing new. 1272 01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:40.199 They've been It's this is they drain the thing in 1273 01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:45.319 February of twenty twenty four. So yeah, the whole reservoir 1274 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.439 they dumped it into the ocean. The whole thing's dry. 1275 01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:54.479 There's there's aerial shots of the dry reservoir. It's it's 1276 01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:56.720 completely dry, and. 1277 01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:00.439 So yeah, it's it's pathetic. 1278 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:02.399 Well, at least at least in Los Angeles. In the 1279 01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:06.560 Fire department. In Los Angeles, they have been hiring people 1280 01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:10.560 whether they're qualified or not. That's not the main point. 1281 01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:14.399 The Germaine point is they're hiring people when they do 1282 01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:17.199 hire people, and don't fire people for things like not 1283 01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:20.840 getting the COVID JAB. When they hire people, they want 1284 01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:23.840 to make sure they're hiring people who look like the 1285 01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:27.680 people they may be serving, which is the most ridiculous 1286 01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:30.359 thing in the world. I don't care if I'm in 1287 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:35.319 a fire and I need assistance from a firefighter. I 1288 01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:42.920 don't care if he or she is white, black, lesbian, gay, straight, 1289 01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:46.159 I don't care about anything. Can they do the job? 1290 01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:50.640 And the DEI, the chief of DEI in Los Angeles 1291 01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:53.439 in the fire department, who makes three hundred thousand plus 1292 01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:58.560 a year, to make sure that they're firefighting force looks 1293 01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:05.359 like the populations that they serve said famously, if if 1294 01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:10.640 a firefighter wasn't wasn't able physically to bring a grown 1295 01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:13.520 man out of a fire, then that man obviously was 1296 01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:16.119 in the wrong place. Is there a right place to 1297 01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:19.000 be when you're stuck in the middle of a fire emergency, gym. 1298 01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:23.600 Tell me what the right place would be, lady, exactly. 1299 01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:28.760 And the second thing they complain about behind the diversity, 1300 01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:32.199 equity and inclusion is money. 1301 01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:34.199 They want more money. 1302 01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:37.760 It's like they're they're they're always complaining about money, but 1303 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:42.880 it's giving them more money is just giving an idiot 1304 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.720 more money. You're just making them a bigger idiot. They're 1305 01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:50.399 they're they're derelict of their duty and giving them more money, 1306 01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:53.479 that's you don't give them more money. 1307 01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:57.199 They are they are they are a microcosm of the 1308 01:10:57.199 --> 01:11:02.840 worst of our federal government. And this is the leftist policy. 1309 01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:07.399 Is that and it's been this way for years. If 1310 01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:12.159 kids aren't being educated properly, then the answer is, well, 1311 01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:14.319 we need more money, it's all. And you throw more 1312 01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:16.359 money at the problem, and the kids get dumber and 1313 01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:17.399 dumber every year. 1314 01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:23.960 And using your top you're exactly right, and that's really 1315 01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:29.520 the once once if you solve the problem of the bureaucracy, 1316 01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:31.159 when you start going. 1317 01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:33.640 Down the rabbit hole, you just tapped on it. You 1318 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:35.680 went to the very bottom, like real quick. 1319 01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:39.359 It's the education system there is that is such a 1320 01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:43.800 difficult thing to repair and fix. That's going to take 1321 01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.000 that's going to take decades because they've been working on 1322 01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:52.119 it for decades to flip the whole thing, and you know, 1323 01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:56.159 since the seventies, and now we're at this point where 1324 01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:59.760 that's really the root of the problem because of what 1325 01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:04.399 that system has produced, and we're dealing with it now. 1326 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.079 We've had it. That's what the problem is. 1327 01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:13.119 We've had a leftist slide in our education system. And 1328 01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:16.880 the data shows that the massive slide to the far 1329 01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:20.479 left in academia began in the mid nineteen eighties. Now 1330 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:25.279 even centrists are disappearing according to this information I've got 1331 01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:29.680 in front of me. I want to talk more about 1332 01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:35.920 the fires and the absolute total incompetence of the people 1333 01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:39.479 that are in charge of keeping the people of southern 1334 01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:44.119 California safe, but I also want to I want to 1335 01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:46.720 break and we'll do the next segment. I want you 1336 01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:48.840 to talk a little bit, if you are comfortable with it, 1337 01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:53.399 about your personal journey with cancer, because I think it's 1338 01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:58.680 important to know that there are now more than at 1339 01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:03.680 any time human history, ways to ascertain if you were 1340 01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:06.239 not only at risk, but if you actually have cancer 1341 01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:09.479 and don't know it, because that's the most crucial thing, 1342 01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:14.000 and treating cancer is knowing it early enough you can 1343 01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:17.800 get a jump start on it before it master sizes 1344 01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:21.479 into stage four and it's spreading throughout your body. And 1345 01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:25.279 some very important things from your own journey you have 1346 01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:27.760 learned in this Jim, I want to impart that to 1347 01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:30.600 the audience. So if you'll just sit back, take a break, 1348 01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:33.399 you'll come back and talk about that with Jim Lewis tonight, 1349 01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:37.439 a special guest on the Nightcap because he's a friend 1350 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.920 and he's got some really good information. If you're worried 1351 01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:47.159 about or thinking about making sure you stay healthy, and 1352 01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:50.239 you're worried about whether you may or may not have cancer, 1353 01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:53.439 please stick around and we'll be right back on seven 1354 01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:54.800 hundred WLW. 1355 01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:58.199 Our new and improved iHeartRadio app has made it even 1356 01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:01.680 easier to enjoy the radio stations, podcasts and playlists you love. 1357 01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:03.439 Now what we've had it everything. 1358 01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:06.960 You're talking to the plumber's best buddy, Jim Lewis, and 1359 01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:11.560 my good friend and Jim, just real quickly, let's get 1360 01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:14.439 a recap of where you've been over the last three 1361 01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:18.399 four years and the odyssey you've been on with cancer. 1362 01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:25.800 Sure, well, I discovered I have I had colon cancer 1363 01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:33.520 in February of twenty twenty three, and it was it 1364 01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:39.720 just hit me out of nowhere. My anthem required that 1365 01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:46.079 we get a physical in twenty twenty two. So I 1366 01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:48.920 had to get this physical in December twenty twenty two. 1367 01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:52.800 Hadn't been to the doctor in you know, decades, and 1368 01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:56.439 had to find a doctor. And then he's like, hey, 1369 01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:59.319 I needed colonoscope and I kind of like, you know, 1370 01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:03.760 just didn't look forward to doing that. And I actually 1371 01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:07.600 canceled the first appointment. And you know, when when I 1372 01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:10.800 was supposed to go and put it off and UH 1373 01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:13.279 just didn't feel like it didn't feel like. 1374 01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:16.159 I had cancer or anything. And uh, then I go 1375 01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:18.359 and I. 1376 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:20.159 When when I initially got the colonosophy, they didn't know 1377 01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:24.000 that I had UH stage four, but he said he 1378 01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:26.399 thought it could be that he wasn't sure. I had 1379 01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:29.199 to go to a specialist. Went to a specialist and 1380 01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:34.840 uh discovered I had stage four uh colon cancer. 1381 01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:37.319 So that was tough. 1382 01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:41.680 And then I just I didn't ut. I didn't stick 1383 01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:46.239 with the the the first doctor that I had that 1384 01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:49.520 I went to, I did a bunch of research and 1385 01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:51.000 called a bunch of people. 1386 01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:52.479 And uh then. 1387 01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:55.960 You know, through a lot. 1388 01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:58.520 Of phone calls and a lot of talking to different people. 1389 01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:03.279 I got hooked up with a guy that's incredible here 1390 01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:06.039 in Cincinnati, doctor Earl Thompson. 1391 01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:08.760 Unbelievable guy. 1392 01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:12.760 I mean, this guy is if you have a cancer issue, 1393 01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:18.239 if you can get to get him. Uh, he's he's 1394 01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:19.319 really Uh. 1395 01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:24.439 By all means, here's what I here's what I found. 1396 01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:26.760 So I went, I went to him, I left the 1397 01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:31.880 guy was with went to him, and then Domino started 1398 01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:34.680 falling and uh. But the one thing I'll say is 1399 01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:38.920 this looking back at this, like because when you you 1400 01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:41.600 kind of like when you're when you first get hit 1401 01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:44.279 with it, you're kind of you know, you're you're trying 1402 01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:46.600 to you're like end up burning building and you're trying 1403 01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:50.199 to get out and find a door. But once I 1404 01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:54.079 started like looking at this and what I had been 1405 01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:58.640 through three four five years before and got a really 1406 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:03.520 good view of this, I will say that one hundred 1407 01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:09.279 percent I caused my cancer. And it was one hundred 1408 01:17:09.319 --> 01:17:13.800 percent my fault. Now out of complete ignorance. I didn't 1409 01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:17.560 do it on purpose, obviously, but there were three things 1410 01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:25.159 I three reasons why this happened. The number one and 1411 01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:28.319 the biggest one was not going to the doctor. So 1412 01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:30.960 if I would have gotten a check up or gotten 1413 01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:35.600 a colonoscopy five years earlier, which I should have done, 1414 01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:36.439 this would. 1415 01:17:36.279 --> 01:17:37.039 Have been prevented. 1416 01:17:37.319 --> 01:17:38.159 That's number one. 1417 01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:41.960 So not going to the doctor and not getting tested 1418 01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:48.520 was number one. Number two is diet sugar. I've cut 1419 01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:53.000 all that out and that was that I could. That's 1420 01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:57.840 a super long topic there, but diet and then sedentary lifestyle. 1421 01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:02.239 So those three things. The largest of the three is 1422 01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:06.399 the testing. So I changed all three and then now 1423 01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:08.319 I test every ninety days. 1424 01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:10.880 And the big. 1425 01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:16.359 Arbitrage here is the blood tests. So there's you can 1426 01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:20.359 do there. They have these broad based blood panels that 1427 01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:26.760 they can test for specific biomarkers in the blood that 1428 01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:30.520 certain that cancers throw out into the bloodstream. 1429 01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:32.800 So just like when someone. 1430 01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:38.520 Goes to get a the blood test for prostate, so 1431 01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:42.840 the check for your PSA, it's a prostate specific andigen 1432 01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:47.720 it's a protein that the prostate throws out into the blood. 1433 01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:50.760 They don't have to do the old rubber glove test 1434 01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:57.000 RH right. They know if you're if you have an 1435 01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:02.479 elevated PSA and it's HI, they they know, okay, we've 1436 01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:03.119 got an issue. 1437 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:03.359 Here. 1438 01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:10.000 So the for colon cancer. The the biomarker that that 1439 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:14.880 that correlates with mine was CEA. So we checked my 1440 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:18.880 CEA and that was forty eight point six. Oh and 1441 01:19:19.279 --> 01:19:22.720 another yeah, forty eight point six. And another great guy, 1442 01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:26.840 I mean cannot say enough great things about him is. 1443 01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:28.119 Doctor William Barrett. 1444 01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:29.239 Bill Barrett. 1445 01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:34.399 He is phenomenal. He's you know, he's he's helped me 1446 01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:39.199 out a lot. And you know, we we are blessed 1447 01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:43.119 in Cincinnati that we have we can tap into people 1448 01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:46.479 that this is one of the best cities to get 1449 01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:47.079 cancer in. 1450 01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:49.680 Uh, and it. 1451 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:54.039 Really is is phenomenal because the great thing about these 1452 01:19:54.079 --> 01:19:58.920 guys like if they don't have the answer, they'll send 1453 01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:01.079 you in the direction to go get it or they'll 1454 01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:05.239 get it. Like they're they're just everyone I've encountered has 1455 01:20:05.319 --> 01:20:09.119 been just phenomenal there. Ray Wilson. 1456 01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:13.800 Yeah, they're they're dedicated. They are dedicated to this. But 1457 01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:17.680 I didn't know that there was actually a blood panel. So, 1458 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:20.880 I mean, your insurance may not want to pay for 1459 01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:25.560 this expanded blood test, but uh, it would behoove anyone 1460 01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.000 who has to have a regular blood test for their 1461 01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:33.199 physical every year to say to the doctor, can you 1462 01:20:33.239 --> 01:20:37.640 please check my CEA level along with my PSA. They 1463 01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:43.119 checked my PSA once a year and thankfully, right, it's 1464 01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:45.359 been the C right. 1465 01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:49.680 That's and that's a that's a fairly cheap one to 1466 01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:53.800 add on. That's not expensive. It's just there there. Now 1467 01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:57.239 when you go to look at like the Galleria test, 1468 01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:01.119 I think they test for like fifty six different biomarkers. 1469 01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:06.199 Now you're getting up the where insurance companies start to 1470 01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:10.199 you know that you can get them done. You just 1471 01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:13.079 have to pay for them yourselves. But but I think 1472 01:21:13.079 --> 01:21:19.479 it's it's well worth that investment because you can and 1473 01:21:19.479 --> 01:21:22.600 and again it's not that it's perfect. You may get 1474 01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:24.960 a false positive, sure it may. 1475 01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:27.239 But it's like, you know what I'll take. 1476 01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:30.840 I'll take my fire alarm going off and there wasn't 1477 01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:33.840 a fire. I just you know, I'll accept that, or 1478 01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:38.199 like how many security systems the alarm goes off and 1479 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:41.279 nobody broke in the house. It's like for for there 1480 01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:44.800 to because there could be a false positive. 1481 01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:46.359 For that being. 1482 01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:49.560 The reason not to take the test is, uh, I 1483 01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:51.039 just don't get the logic in that. 1484 01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:58.239 So good checked, Yeah. 1485 01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:57.319 Sugar, and. 1486 01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:05.119 Yet move around, man, it's excellent advice for anybody on anything, 1487 01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:09.079 jam and thanks for being here again tonight to share 1488 01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:11.520 some of that with us of your own personal story. 1489 01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:13.960 And I will remember the next time I have my 1490 01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:16.359 blood drawn, which is this March, and I will ask 1491 01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:21.640 my doctor can you check my CEA as well? Because 1492 01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:22.359 I'm due free? 1493 01:22:22.479 --> 01:22:26.920 Yeah, and I am so far cancer free. So twenty 1494 01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:31.079 twenty three was a really tough year and that got 1495 01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:31.520 through it. 1496 01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:32.880 And I've had. 1497 01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:37.520 Just thanks to a great team and Adam Rosean, He's 1498 01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:40.560 another one. There's just I could go on and on 1499 01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:44.039 with just the uh, the people here and but but 1500 01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:49.520 the number one thing is take accountability and do everything 1501 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:53.840 you can do, because there's no question I caused this. 1502 01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:58.279 It wasn't anything right, all right, I think I think, Yeah. 1503 01:22:58.239 --> 01:23:00.800 Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, I got hey, I gotta go brother, 1504 01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:02.000 Happy New Year. 1505 01:23:02.079 --> 01:23:03.720 Okay, Hey, God bless. 1506 01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:04.079 God, bless you. 1507 01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:05.479 Pet. 1508 01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:08.680 It's the night cap on seven hundred WLW. 1509 01:23:08.760 --> 01:23:15.720 News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred w l W, Cincinnati. 1510 01:23:16.119 --> 01:23:20.159 Could relief be off the way for the southern California wildfires, 1511 01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:23.680 but the eleven o'clock reports, I'mley mawin breaking now. 1512 01:23:24.039 --> 01:23:26.600 Now my Wednesday evening, Wednesday night, I expect the critical 1513 01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:29.479 conditions to diminish, and then for Thursday into the weekend, 1514 01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:32.159 we'll actually get back to a more normal weather powder 1515 01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:34.159 here for this part of the country, kind of a 1516 01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:38.319 nice onshore sea breeze during the day, bringing cooler temperatures, 1517 01:23:38.479 --> 01:23:41.199 higher humidity, which will all help with the firefighting and 1518 01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:42.399 fire control efforts. 1519 01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:46.359 Meteorologists Rich Thompson but the National Weather Service reporting on 1520 01:23:46.479 --> 01:23:49.880 possible relief for fire crews as they continue to battle 1521 01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:53.439 the fires, which the Pallisades Fire grows to nearly twenty 1522 01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:56.960 four thousand acres with seventeen percent contained. 1523 01:23:57.399 --> 01:23:57.600 Now. 1524 01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:00.159 The newest push to help families who lost everything and 1525 01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:04.159 these fires began today, reporting from the fire zone, ABC's 1526 01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:06.920 chief national correspondent, Matt Gutman. 1527 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:11.479 Thousands of families who lost their homes facing an uncertain future. 1528 01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:16.000 Outside the post office in Pasadena, everyone with the need 1529 01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:19.439 and a story our Cana Whitworth with DJ s Servedo, 1530 01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:22.520 hoping to give his son a sense of normalcy. 1531 01:24:22.359 --> 01:24:24.760 Pick up some stuff hopefully we had funny enough, we 1532 01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:26.800 had ordered my son some shoes, so I'm hoping that 1533 01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:28.159 those are in there and. 1534 01:24:28.279 --> 01:24:29.119 I'll make him happy. 1535 01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:31.000 New shoes for for you. All goes a long way, 1536 01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:32.079 Oh for sure, for sure. 1537 01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:35.479 Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass announcing the executive order to 1538 01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:38.600 speed up the recovery process and allowing families to rebuild 1539 01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:42.159 their homes. As they were saying, the city can handle 1540 01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:43.279 the rebuilding process. 1541 01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:47.439 Now the latest traffic and weather together, no accident is 1542 01:24:47.479 --> 01:24:49.960 to report again. You're looking good Cincinnati. 1543 01:24:50.680 --> 01:24:53.319 Now the latest forecast from the No Feared Dentist Weather 1544 01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:56.960 Center Advanced dentistry. The thought of the dentist making you 1545 01:24:57.039 --> 01:25:01.560 a nervous wreck. We're here for you. 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If a shootout 1576 01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:47.399 went over the Philadelphia Flyers three to two, Zach Warinsky 1577 01:26:47.479 --> 01:26:50.399 scores twice to reach the fifty point plateau for Columbus. 1578 01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:53.640 The Jackets are now twenty one seventeen and six that's wins, 1579 01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:57.079 losses and overtime losses, and have the top wildcard spot 1580 01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:00.439 in the Eastern Conference. Up next for CBJ home game 1581 01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:04.079 Thursday night at Nationwide against the San Jose Sharks. You 1582 01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:06.640 could catch it on Fox Sports thirteen sixties starting at 1583 01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:10.119 six thirty. Our next update is that eleven thirty. I'm 1584 01:27:10.159 --> 01:27:13.760 Ley Mawen, Who's radio seven hundred WLW. This report is 1585 01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:16.279 sponsored by Cordell and Cordell. 1586 01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:20.000 Cordell and Cordell, a domestic litigation firm. As a partner, 1587 01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:24.159 you can count on scheduling consultating on seven hundred WLW. 1588 01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:28.760 Garry Jeff at your service and next Now. For many 1589 01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:30.920 years I was a host of a show called Breakfast 1590 01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:35.640 with the Beatles here locally, and I always love good 1591 01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:36.479 Beatles' stories. 1592 01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:38.399 I love stories about the British Invasion. 1593 01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:42.760 Tonight an archived interview that I did last summer with 1594 01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:46.600 a guy named Billy J. Kramer, and it was worthy 1595 01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:49.800 of another listen, So let's do that now as we 1596 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:52.840 continue on seven hundred wl W. 1597 01:27:55.880 --> 01:27:57.119 Did you never leave me? 1598 01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:00.680 I'll be in blue. 1599 01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:04.479 Don't you ever leave me? 1600 01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:08.359 I'm so in love with you? 1601 01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:14.960 They would be so lovely. 1602 01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:23.079 Let's not why Holy Dave yell to me? 1603 01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:26.520 And that was the first time many people heard Billy J. 1604 01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:32.199 Kramer and the Dakotas. Yes, nineteen sixty three was it? 1605 01:28:32.600 --> 01:28:32.840 Yeh? 1606 01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:37.680 And he is back and he's still here. He's still 1607 01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:38.960 doing what he loves to do. 1608 01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:41.880 And I think that's so cool because I'm getting to 1609 01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:44.359 do what I love to do, which is interview people 1610 01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:47.079 like Billy J. Kramer, Gary Jeff Walker as we continue 1611 01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:48.960 here on seven hundred WLW. 1612 01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:50.319 And I've looked forward to this. 1613 01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:52.760 When our friend Jeff Perholtz, who's been working with you 1614 01:28:53.319 --> 01:28:56.479 on your new album Billy, mentioned that you were going 1615 01:28:56.560 --> 01:28:58.600 to be in town and we had a chance to 1616 01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:02.600 do this, I was just like blown over Billy Kramer. 1617 01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:06.520 Really, I got to interview Billy Kramer. Very very cool. 1618 01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:10.800 This was the early stage of what became the British invasion. 1619 01:29:10.880 --> 01:29:13.720 You were obviously way bigger in the UK than you 1620 01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:15.760 were in the US, but you had hits here too, 1621 01:29:16.479 --> 01:29:22.600 and you had the benefit of some pretty pretty prolific songwriters. 1622 01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:24.479 We'll get into that in a moment. But how are you. 1623 01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:27.479 I'm very well, thank you. I'm nice to be here. 1624 01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:27.920 Yeah. 1625 01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:30.760 What brings you to America this time? Bill? 1626 01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:34.279 Well, I've lived in America for many years now, Okay, 1627 01:29:34.439 --> 01:29:37.079 you know I lived in America for like thirty six 1628 01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:38.680 thirty seven years. 1629 01:29:38.319 --> 01:29:40.479 All right, So what brings you to town? 1630 01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:40.760 Then? 1631 01:29:41.079 --> 01:29:45.680 I came to town to work with Jeff Perholtz, the Holts, 1632 01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:50.399 my friend Jeff Holts. That's what I came to town for. 1633 01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:54.880 So how did you get hooked up with Jeff? I 1634 01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:59.239 was doing a cruise last year, about a year ago, 1635 01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:03.800 and they they linked me up. 1636 01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:06.159 It's all right. 1637 01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:08.239 They tied me over with Jeff and I came to 1638 01:30:08.720 --> 01:30:14.520 Cincinnati and rehearsed for the cruise with Jeff yea a studio, 1639 01:30:14.680 --> 01:30:19.279 and then we did a cruise together. And I was 1640 01:30:19.319 --> 01:30:23.520 going to Abby Road to celebrate sixty years and show 1641 01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:28.479 business on my eightieth birthday, and I got him like 1642 01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:31.640 I have some fire with Jeff and his wife, Missy, 1643 01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:34.640 and I invited them to come along to Abby Roll. 1644 01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:35.640 They're wonderful people. 1645 01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:37.520 I've known him for about twenty five years and actually 1646 01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:39.760 hadn't seen him for about twenty years until we met 1647 01:30:39.800 --> 01:30:43.159 in a parking lot for the first time in twenty years, 1648 01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:46.600 and he just mentioned working with you, and I said, really, 1649 01:30:46.680 --> 01:30:47.119 Billy J. 1650 01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:50.760 Kramer, that's so cool. And I said, well, is there 1651 01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:53.560 any chance, since he's going to be in town we 1652 01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:59.039 could get together? And here we are. So it's coming 1653 01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:02.439 on city. Sixty years since you first appeared on the 1654 01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:08.680 Ed Sullivan Show. Sixty years on June seventh, June seventh, 1655 01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:12.399 the year of the Great British Invasion. Yes, June seventh 1656 01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:18.159 was when I was on The Sullivan Show. And it's 1657 01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:21.439 come by very quick. What do you remember about that night? Specifically? 1658 01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:27.520 I was very nervous, I remember, you know, funny enough, 1659 01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:32.079 it's it's a bit scary to think that, you know, 1660 01:31:33.239 --> 01:31:35.920 you know, you stand there in front of a camera 1661 01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:39.039 and realize that there's going to be seventy million people looking. 1662 01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:42.319 It's a bit of a scary thought. So I'll be 1663 01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:45.720 honest with you. I I did the rehearsal Joe on 1664 01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:47.560 the day and then I went back to the hotel 1665 01:31:48.199 --> 01:31:50.319 and I timed it that I just went back and 1666 01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:52.479 just about time to walk on and do it. 1667 01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:55.439 So you were managed by Brian Emstein, Yes, I was 1668 01:31:55.640 --> 01:31:59.159 who managed the Beatles, obviously many other acts right at 1669 01:31:59.159 --> 01:32:05.279 that period in popular music in Great Britain. And how 1670 01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:07.239 did how did that happen? How did you get together 1671 01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:07.640 with Brian? 1672 01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:12.560 And it came about where there was a local paper, 1673 01:32:12.640 --> 01:32:17.560 Mersey Beat, that all the young kids used to buy. 1674 01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:21.359 You know, I was very very very popular music paper 1675 01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:25.439 and there was a popularity poll and it was you 1676 01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:27.640 know at the time, I think it's about four hundred 1677 01:32:27.680 --> 01:32:33.199 bands around Liverpool and I came second in the popularity 1678 01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:34.560 poll to the Beatles, and. 1679 01:32:35.439 --> 01:32:36.600 That's not a bad runner up. 1680 01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:40.640 I was joined joined second with a guy called Lee 1681 01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:45.119 Kurs and the All Stars, and then you know I 1682 01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:47.520 was doing shows with the Beatles. I was opening for 1683 01:32:47.560 --> 01:32:51.479 the Beatles as it's certain shows, and then when I 1684 01:32:51.520 --> 01:32:54.359 came second, there was like they had this show, it's 1685 01:32:54.479 --> 01:32:57.399 like a big showcase and we all got got a 1686 01:32:57.479 --> 01:33:04.279 price and I met Brian there because he he'd he'd 1687 01:33:04.319 --> 01:33:08.079 given a Tour of Scotland for the highest place non professional, 1688 01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:11.520 and I declined it because I was. I was at 1689 01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:14.439 the time, I was, and I was training to be 1690 01:33:14.479 --> 01:33:15.119 an engineer. 1691 01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:18.640 Right, you were a railroad engineer, right. 1692 01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:18.800 You know? 1693 01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:19.840 No, I was. 1694 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:22.520 You know, people when you say I was an engineer 1695 01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:24.720 on the railroad, people think that you'd rove trains. I 1696 01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:27.680 didn't drive trains. I took them to pieces and maintained 1697 01:33:27.720 --> 01:33:30.000 and put them back together. Okay, that was the kind 1698 01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:32.720 of work I was doing. Now I was, you know, 1699 01:33:33.319 --> 01:33:37.000 I was actually about to leave Liverpool and go to 1700 01:33:37.119 --> 01:33:40.720 a place go Crew for a year, which to me, 1701 01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:43.199 i'd been there doing gigs and I didn't fancy the 1702 01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:45.239 idea of going there for a year. But I was. 1703 01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.800 I was about to pack up the music business altogether, 1704 01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:50.399 because part of the training was you went to crew 1705 01:33:50.439 --> 01:33:55.279 for a year to rolls Royce and I was about 1706 01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:57.960 I told the guys in the band I was. I 1707 01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:00.720 was going to pack it all in and Brian came 1708 01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:04.119 about about months before I was gonna go. Brian came 1709 01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:06.920 along and off me offors have management. 1710 01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:12.520 Well tell me about obviously through your association with Brian Epstein, 1711 01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:17.079 how uh, how a mess the Beatles. 1712 01:34:17.159 --> 01:34:17.359 Yeah. 1713 01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:21.680 Well, and the fact that they gave you songs. They 1714 01:34:21.720 --> 01:34:23.720 were so prolific at writing songs. They had a lot 1715 01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:26.560 of songs that they never recorded, and they kind of 1716 01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:29.399 threw you those bits and and you turn them into hits. 1717 01:34:29.479 --> 01:34:32.560 That that's wonderful. That tell me. Tell me about John 1718 01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:34.319 and Paul and what it was like to work with 1719 01:34:34.359 --> 01:34:38.119 them or to you know, open for them, What it was. 1720 01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:42.520 Like so over for them. You know, it's it's more 1721 01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:44.359 when I look back now, it's more of a big 1722 01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:47.199 deal to me now than what it was then. I think, 1723 01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:50.119 you know, it was like when you share dressing rooms 1724 01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:54.159 with people, people share your hebbrush and stuff like that. 1725 01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:57.560 You don't you know, to me, it was you know, 1726 01:34:57.680 --> 01:34:59.680 I mean I never thought anything about it, you know. 1727 01:34:59.720 --> 01:35:02.279 Paul McCarney, like what I did that Christmas show? I 1728 01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:04.960 remember we used to do with this like pancake makeup 1729 01:35:05.159 --> 01:35:07.680 just to slap. We used to call it slap. And 1730 01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:10.399 it goes, well, can I go, where's your slap, billy? 1731 01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:13.159 I Can I buy you a hairbrush? And you know 1732 01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:16.920 it's like I never looked at it. You know. The 1733 01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:20.319 funny thing is I never eat all the times with 1734 01:35:20.359 --> 01:35:22.920 the Beetles, which is many songs. I never even asked 1735 01:35:22.920 --> 01:35:25.800 for an autograph, right, No, I just. 1736 01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:29.079 Thought, well, if you'd have known what we all know now, 1737 01:35:29.319 --> 01:35:31.279 I probably would have saved some of Paul's here from 1738 01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:32.000 my hair brush. 1739 01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:35.079 Yeah, you know what I mean, you know, but I 1740 01:35:35.720 --> 01:35:39.000 never thought about it. Yeah, you know, it's like you know, 1741 01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:42.359 people say to me, like when I did like set 1742 01:35:42.439 --> 01:35:45.239 and Lennon McCartney songs and the lyrics were that that 1743 01:35:45.319 --> 01:35:48.000 they've written out by hands. I never I just like 1744 01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:49.560 roll them up in the ball and throw them a 1745 01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:52.520 waste paper. But I never nobody thought it was gonna 1746 01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:54.239 I don't know, I never thought about it. 1747 01:35:55.079 --> 01:35:57.800 So tell me about this new work that you're doing now. 1748 01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:02.039 You you've continued to record and obviously play all these years. Yes, 1749 01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:04.279 and you and I were talking about what a what 1750 01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:08.680 a blast it is to do what you've always wanted 1751 01:36:08.720 --> 01:36:11.720 to do in life. Yes, you know, I was seven 1752 01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:13.560 years old and I wanted to be on the radio, 1753 01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:17.680 and from nineteen until now, you know, I've been blessed 1754 01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:19.319 enough to be able to do that. And you've been 1755 01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:22.039 in music now for this sixty year period. 1756 01:36:22.520 --> 01:36:25.319 Well, I mean I feel very blessed. You know, like 1757 01:36:25.359 --> 01:36:27.680 I send to you earlier, I've never considered this to 1758 01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:31.319 be a job. You know, we don't get a goal 1759 01:36:31.399 --> 01:36:36.199 watch after so many years. It's something. It's like I 1760 01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:39.800 remember my sister, you know, she's older than me, she's 1761 01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:43.239 ninety four, and she said to me, like, why do 1762 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:43.840 you do all this? 1763 01:36:44.479 --> 01:36:44.680 You know? 1764 01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:46.960 Now, you know why? How come you know you make 1765 01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:48.800 these records and you do this and you do that. 1766 01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:51.439 And I've said, it's because it's what I do. 1767 01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:56.800 I've told people for years, Billy that my retirement plan 1768 01:36:56.960 --> 01:37:00.600 is death. You know, do people add as you you're 1769 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:01.399 you going to hang it up? 1770 01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:01.960 You know? 1771 01:37:02.239 --> 01:37:04.159 I mean, I'll be honest with it. We've put a 1772 01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:07.560 tremendous amount of work into this album, you know what. 1773 01:37:07.560 --> 01:37:10.800 I'm delighted with it. I said to Jeff yesterday, what 1774 01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:12.600 are we going to do next? 1775 01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:16.159 That's right, you're thinking about the next project. 1776 01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:18.159 He says to me, Let's get this one out of 1777 01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.600 the wake first. But that's the way I am. Yeah, 1778 01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:26.239 all right, exactly, you know. I mean it's like, you know, 1779 01:37:26.439 --> 01:37:28.640 I'm easy, and people go, you know, why you're still 1780 01:37:28.680 --> 01:37:30.600 doing this just because it's what I do? 1781 01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:33.159 Well, look pretty damn good for Adie. I'll tell you that, Billy, 1782 01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:35.479 thank you probably better than I look at sixty three. 1783 01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:40.239 Well, you know, do you attribute that to clean living? 1784 01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:42.520 Yes? 1785 01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:44.199 I mean, I'll be honest with it. I mean I 1786 01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:47.119 wasn't always clean living. I used to drink, used to 1787 01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:50.439 drink and smoke and stay out late and all those things, 1788 01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:52.680 all the stuff. But I quit all lots of forty 1789 01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:56.399 years ago. Really, I quit all lots of forty years ago. 1790 01:37:56.479 --> 01:37:56.760 Yes. 1791 01:37:56.840 --> 01:38:01.159 Well, that's that's a tribute to you and also a 1792 01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:04.159 testament to what that kind of life can give you, 1793 01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:08.520 this longevity. There's a lot of different pretty famous people 1794 01:38:08.560 --> 01:38:10.840 playing on this album too. You want to talk about 1795 01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:12.960 some of the sidemen that you've got working with you. 1796 01:38:13.199 --> 01:38:15.960 Well, there's Steve Holly. 1797 01:38:16.560 --> 01:38:16.840 Yeah. 1798 01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:19.880 Yeah, it was a great drummer. It was with Paul 1799 01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:27.760 Lawrence Jupa playing guitar. Alan Thompson, it's a bass player 1800 01:38:27.760 --> 01:38:29.760 with Jeff Hotel. Wow. 1801 01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:34.359 You know I met Ian Anderson once? Yeah? Have you 1802 01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:35.000 ever met Ian? 1803 01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:35.319 No? 1804 01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:38.119 I met Ian he was doing something. 1805 01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:41.399 He was in town, doing something across the country called 1806 01:38:41.399 --> 01:38:45.199 the Rubbing Elbows Tour, and it was so neat because 1807 01:38:45.640 --> 01:38:47.960 we were on a stage at Music Hall and there 1808 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.800 was a big couch in front of the band on stage, 1809 01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:55.479 and Ian had some local musicians who were playing the 1810 01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:58.479 songs with him, and he'd do a song and then 1811 01:38:58.520 --> 01:39:00.640 we we'd sit and do an you in front of 1812 01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:02.800 the audience about the next song and talk about then, 1813 01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:04.479 and then you'd get up and perform again. It was 1814 01:39:04.760 --> 01:39:06.239 very cool experience. 1815 01:39:06.279 --> 01:39:09.279 But it's you know, it's that is a I do 1816 01:39:09.359 --> 01:39:13.800 a similar thing, now, do you where I do this 1817 01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:18.640 this acoustic songs and stories and I have somebody like 1818 01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:23.479 a DJ interviewed me and asked me questions about different songs, 1819 01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:26.079 how I acquired them. Keep me in mind the next 1820 01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:29.399 time you're in Cincinnati, Billy, I will you know songs 1821 01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:33.119 that I acquired, how I recorded them? Any for these 1822 01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:35.720 stories about them? And I talk about that and then 1823 01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:36.680 I sing the songs. 1824 01:39:38.039 --> 01:39:39.159 So were you ever married? 1825 01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:46.119 I've been married twice. Yeah, yeah, I was married. I 1826 01:39:46.119 --> 01:39:50.119 always say we're all insightles, so make one mistake. Yeah, 1827 01:39:50.199 --> 01:39:51.800 you know I didn't get I'll be very honest with you. 1828 01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:54.039 I didn't get it right the first time. Neither did 1829 01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:58.720 I the second. My second marriage was tremendous. I was 1830 01:39:58.760 --> 01:40:01.840 married to a girl from Long Island, New York. Ronnie 1831 01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:06.680 married for over thirty years. Unfortunately she passed away. I'm 1832 01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:09.159 sorry to hear that. So you say you've been in 1833 01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:12.000 the United States now for thirty six years living here. Yes, 1834 01:40:13.279 --> 01:40:16.960 what prompted you to move from I met huh? I 1835 01:40:17.039 --> 01:40:17.439 met you? 1836 01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:17.920 Met her? 1837 01:40:18.079 --> 01:40:21.920 I met her. I was I was over doing until 1838 01:40:22.399 --> 01:40:24.239 in the United States and I met Ronnie. 1839 01:40:25.279 --> 01:40:26.800 Aren't the girls wonderful on tour? 1840 01:40:26.880 --> 01:40:30.560 Billy? I know that's it's It's strange because you know, 1841 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:32.600 I think we had an argument the first time I 1842 01:40:32.680 --> 01:40:35.680 met she was to get it out of the way. 1843 01:40:36.239 --> 01:40:39.079 She was into like photography. That's how I met it. 1844 01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:40.960 She come to take some. 1845 01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:44.720 So that's another thing you had in common with Paul Linda, Right, 1846 01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:51.079 So did you keep touch with the boys and the 1847 01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:52.159 initial I'll be honest with that. 1848 01:40:52.880 --> 01:40:55.079 In the early days I told with the beatles of 1849 01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:57.479 loss and then you know, I'll be honest with that. 1850 01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:01.279 I got to a point where, you know, I didn't 1851 01:41:01.279 --> 01:41:03.680 want to hang on to the hotels. You know, I 1852 01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:05.680 used to stay at this place in the Russell Square 1853 01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:08.399 in London, the President Hotel, and I used to see 1854 01:41:08.479 --> 01:41:11.920 Neil Aspinall and male Evans. Then they go. He come 1855 01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:13.840 to Paul's to night and Saint Johnson Wood and I 1856 01:41:13.880 --> 01:41:17.119 was going, no, I'm taking some chick out, some dancer, 1857 01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:20.760 you know, good for you, And I'll be honestly, I 1858 01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:25.319 sort of like backd azz. I think, you know, I 1859 01:41:25.359 --> 01:41:28.680 also have a life, sure you know, Oh absolutely, And 1860 01:41:28.880 --> 01:41:31.279 that's that's what I mean. From time to time over 1861 01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:34.079 the years, I've seen the Beatles, you know. The last 1862 01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:37.479 time Paul came to Long Island, I got together with him. 1863 01:41:37.720 --> 01:41:39.439 But I'm not going to call him up every day. 1864 01:41:39.279 --> 01:41:41.399 Of the week and ask confirm oh no, no, no, no, no, no, 1865 01:41:41.640 --> 01:41:42.760 I didn't. I didn't think. 1866 01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:45.760 That she's driven crazy. 1867 01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:46.439 You know. 1868 01:41:46.720 --> 01:41:49.800 I'll be honest with you, he's probably crazy counting as mine, 1869 01:41:50.319 --> 01:41:51.079 you know, I was. 1870 01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:54.159 I was with a lady friend at Christmas time. We 1871 01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:57.079 were going through some big department store and I said, 1872 01:41:57.119 --> 01:42:00.479 you know, Paul can't do this. Yeah, you're right, And 1873 01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:03.239 I thought, you know, I wouldn't want that. I like 1874 01:42:03.319 --> 01:42:06.159 going places. I like going stores, and I like, you know, 1875 01:42:07.720 --> 01:42:10.279 I like being in show business. I like performing, I 1876 01:42:10.359 --> 01:42:12.640 like making music. But would you like to be somewhat 1877 01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:16.079 anonymous when you're rist to me? I'm like, I always 1878 01:42:16.119 --> 01:42:18.479 say that Billy J. Krame is someone that I take 1879 01:42:18.520 --> 01:42:21.359 out of a suit bag. So you've got a new 1880 01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:23.880 single coming from this new album. What is the title 1881 01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:25.800 of this? So we have a single after the moment? 1882 01:42:26.079 --> 01:42:26.199 Right? 1883 01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:27.239 Are you with me? 1884 01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:28.399 But there's a new one coming. 1885 01:42:28.479 --> 01:42:30.560 There's a new one coming which is written by Mark 1886 01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:34.079 Uson Oh It's called I Couldn't have done it without you. 1887 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:36.640 Well again, the benefit of a pretty darn good songwriter. 1888 01:42:37.079 --> 01:42:38.960 You know, he's a heck of a songwriter. I've done 1889 01:42:38.960 --> 01:42:41.640 a lot of shows with Mark. I'm funny enough. When 1890 01:42:41.680 --> 01:42:44.039 we were like compiling what songs we're going to do 1891 01:42:44.159 --> 01:42:49.560 Abby Road, I'd spoken to Mark about a year before. 1892 01:42:49.840 --> 01:42:53.840 We we had talked about ideas and then I'd sort 1893 01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:56.359 of like made a list of ten songs I so 1894 01:42:56.800 --> 01:42:59.640 be good to do. And then a week or two 1895 01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:02.079 before he called me up and he says, you know 1896 01:43:02.199 --> 01:43:05.960 this song we was talking about. I said yeah, He said, well, 1897 01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:10.760 I finished it. I'll send it to you. It was 1898 01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:13.920 so flipping good. I thought, you know, what can I 1899 01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:15.840 take out and puts this one in? 1900 01:43:16.359 --> 01:43:20.640 So the album, though, is debuting, correct, when does that happen? 1901 01:43:21.119 --> 01:43:23.399 It's going to come out at the end of May 1902 01:43:23.520 --> 01:43:26.279 beginning view all right, and the title of the album 1903 01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:30.560 is are you with Me? Well we are today and 1904 01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:32.359 it's been a joy. Thank you. 1905 01:43:32.680 --> 01:43:36.079 It's been an absolute joy. So you're gonna do videos 1906 01:43:36.119 --> 01:43:37.039 and everything for the song? 1907 01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:37.279 Yeah. 1908 01:43:37.319 --> 01:43:39.720 We we did a great video one Jeff and I 1909 01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:42.720 went to Liverpool after after we did the Abbey Road 1910 01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:47.760 thing going and Jeff Conny did a great video which 1911 01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:48.560 is a lot of fun. 1912 01:43:49.359 --> 01:43:52.560 Is there something about is there still something about the 1913 01:43:52.720 --> 01:43:55.600 mystique about Abbey Road Recording? There is there something to that, 1914 01:43:57.279 --> 01:43:59.479 you know? Is it just a studio or is it 1915 01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:00.520 something there. 1916 01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:02.079 Is something special about it? But you know, I'll be 1917 01:44:02.079 --> 01:44:04.960 honest with you. I have we have this wonderful party 1918 01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:07.439 and my best day and everything there. But you know, 1919 01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:11.279 it's like there was so much going on. The only 1920 01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:13.720 thing is I'll be honest with Somebody came up to 1921 01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:16.239 me and was what does it feel like? And I 1922 01:44:16.279 --> 01:44:20.119 looked across them and remembered exactly where John Lennon was 1923 01:44:20.439 --> 01:44:22.279 when he sat at the piano and played bets to 1924 01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:26.239 me and I call your name, and where Paul played 1925 01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:30.520 from a window. And I'll keep you satisfied. And you know, yeah, 1926 01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:34.279 it's a bit like a bit melancholy. 1927 01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:39.199 You know, well, I love I love even the old stuff. 1928 01:44:39.239 --> 01:44:41.720 I mean we started with the Bad to Me, which 1929 01:44:41.800 --> 01:44:44.880 was your first big one, and Little Children is a 1930 01:44:44.920 --> 01:44:47.399 fantastic song too, and I'm looking forward to hearing the 1931 01:44:47.439 --> 01:44:51.039 album Are You with Me by Billy J. Kramer comes 1932 01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:54.800 out end of May, first of June, and we'll keep 1933 01:44:54.800 --> 01:44:55.319 you posted. 1934 01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:58.760 Thank you very much, anything else, anything else, No, it's 1935 01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:01.000 just being a pleasure. It's being great to be here 1936 01:45:01.720 --> 01:45:06.039 in Cincinnati. It's been wonderful to have met Jeff and 1937 01:45:06.079 --> 01:45:09.920 Missy Oh I do this album. They're very very special people. 1938 01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:12.920 Oh they're great people. And on top of that, they're 1939 01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:17.439 phenomenal musicians, absolutely phenomenal, and I just feel blessed to 1940 01:45:17.840 --> 01:45:19.239 meet such people at this time. 1941 01:45:19.720 --> 01:45:22.960 Meanwhile, when the Untented Forest, the Princess holds us sorrow 1942 01:45:23.039 --> 01:45:24.319 Mary for the movies. 1943 01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:24.840 And watch for Billy J. 1944 01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:27.680 Racky. 1945 01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:28.640 Why thank you? 1946 01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:30.920 This is quite the honor. 1947 01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:33.680 Now what this is it? I mean, we don't get 1948 01:45:33.680 --> 01:45:36.159 a castle or anything. What you get is to go 1949 01:45:36.279 --> 01:45:40.079 back to the radio station and entertain your millions of listeners. 1950 01:45:40.119 --> 01:45:43.359 See oh body beat it. Wow, that's one cranky princess. 1951 01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:46.840 I heard that Buster, Eddie and Rocky, give Your Day 1952 01:45:46.880 --> 01:45:48.000 a fairy Tale, and. 1953 01:45:48.279 --> 01:45:50.399 Eddie and rock Tomorrow afternoon and three on. 1954 01:45:50.600 --> 01:45:53.960 Seven hundred WLWID an attorney spokesperson paid for by Action 1955 01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:56.079 Matters Texting Privacy Policy and terms and conditions posted at 1956 01:45:56.079 --> 01:45:58.319 texplan dot us. Texting enrolls you for recurring automated text 1957 01:45:58.319 --> 01:46:01.399 market messages. Message and DAT rates may apply it fourteenth. 1958 01:46:00.920 --> 01:46:04.640 Twenty twenty five Here on seven hundred WLW Garry Jeff 1959 01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:09.600 welcoming in author Michael Kanal. A new book just out today, 1960 01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:12.840 and I will tell you if you were a fan 1961 01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:19.600 or you're a devotee of anything mafia and a police involvement, 1962 01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:24.279 whether it's Wise Guys or good fellas, you like that stuff, 1963 01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:27.039 you like the Martin Scorsese stuff, You're going to love 1964 01:46:27.119 --> 01:46:30.560 this book because it's the real story of two decorated 1965 01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:37.520 detectives in the NYPD who basically were mob lookouts. They 1966 01:46:37.640 --> 01:46:42.319 performed murders for the mob. They moonlighted as wise guys 1967 01:46:42.640 --> 01:46:45.319 while they were behind the badge. It's called Blood and 1968 01:46:45.359 --> 01:46:48.239 the Badge, the Mafia. Two killer cops and a scandal 1969 01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:52.199 that shocked the nation and something that only really came 1970 01:46:52.279 --> 01:46:56.079 to light all the details didn't come to light until 1971 01:46:56.159 --> 01:46:59.880 the nineties and then the two thousands, when dedicated to 1972 01:47:00.119 --> 01:47:03.239 active in his own right, decided to look in to 1973 01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:07.159 this open case and all these open cases that occurred 1974 01:47:07.239 --> 01:47:12.000 in the nineteen eighties with these two cops, Lewis Epolito 1975 01:47:12.039 --> 01:47:16.399 and Stephen Kara Kappa. Michael Knell, welcome to the show. 1976 01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:19.279 Hey, thanks for having me. 1977 01:47:19.479 --> 01:47:24.520 Yeah, you bet. Is this something that you generally write about? 1978 01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:28.800 Is this your genre or what was the jenet? 1979 01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:29.640 What? 1980 01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:30.039 What was it? 1981 01:47:30.199 --> 01:47:30.399 Now? 1982 01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:31.479 I didn't say it. 1983 01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:34.560 Yeah, I didn't set out in life to be to 1984 01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:37.520 be a mafia chronicler, but it's kind of turned worked 1985 01:47:37.560 --> 01:47:40.239 out that way. I wrote a book about the first 1986 01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:44.520 case of criminal profiling, and then a book called The 1987 01:47:44.640 --> 01:47:50.800 Brotherhood Betrayed about murder incorporated the assassination arm of the 1988 01:47:50.840 --> 01:47:56.000 mafia in the nineteen thirties and forties, and in a way, 1989 01:47:56.159 --> 01:47:59.079 this book Blood in the Badge is a sequel to 1990 01:47:59.119 --> 01:48:03.520 that in a funny way, because in the nineteen thirties 1991 01:48:03.520 --> 01:48:06.680 and forties is when organized crime got organized, and this 1992 01:48:07.319 --> 01:48:10.640 period the late eighties and the early nineties is when 1993 01:48:11.359 --> 01:48:16.680 organized crime became disorganized and the mob started to fall 1994 01:48:16.720 --> 01:48:22.359 apart as Rudy Giuliani and other prosecutors used the Rico. 1995 01:48:22.199 --> 01:48:23.560 Laws to bust the mob. 1996 01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:27.199 So the mob in part was using these two corrupt 1997 01:48:27.279 --> 01:48:28.159 cops as. 1998 01:48:29.600 --> 01:48:30.560 A lifeline. 1999 01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:35.880 They were these two cops, these two decorated detectives, were 2000 01:48:35.920 --> 01:48:42.880 feeding sensitive police information to the mob. Who was under surveillance, 2001 01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:46.800 whose phones were tapped, who was about to be arrested, 2002 01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:53.479 and most importantly, who in the mob was secretly cooperating 2003 01:48:53.600 --> 01:48:59.840 with the government. And then the mob would hire these 2004 01:49:00.039 --> 01:49:03.800 detectives to facilitate the murder of the rats or the 2005 01:49:03.840 --> 01:49:05.239 squealers in their ranks. 2006 01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:08.920 The head of the Luksey crime family called them his 2007 01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:16.199 crystal ball, which is very telling now, Epolito and I 2008 01:49:16.279 --> 01:49:19.079 found this out just from a short run through of 2009 01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:23.920 the book The Blood and the Badge, Epolito, you know, 2010 01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:26.359 it's one of those apple doesn't fall far from the 2011 01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:31.399 tree stories. Really, he became a cop in spite of 2012 01:49:31.439 --> 01:49:34.199 his family connections to the mafia. 2013 01:49:33.880 --> 01:49:36.039 Right, Yeah. 2014 01:49:36.079 --> 01:49:39.439 He was born into a prominent mafia family. His father 2015 01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:43.279 was a captain or a capo as they called it 2016 01:49:43.319 --> 01:49:46.800 in the Gambino crime family. His father was known as 2017 01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:50.760 Fat the Gangster, and his uncle was known as Jimmy 2018 01:49:50.800 --> 01:49:51.319 the Clam. 2019 01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:51.840 I loved. 2020 01:49:52.439 --> 01:49:54.960 I'm sorry, I loved Jimmy the Clam. When I read that, 2021 01:49:55.439 --> 01:49:58.560 I just laughed out. Some of the mob names and 2022 01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:02.600 nicknames are hilaireious. And when you talk about Vinnie the Chin, 2023 01:50:02.800 --> 01:50:07.720 for example, in actual mobsters back in the day, had 2024 01:50:07.760 --> 01:50:12.000 all these wonderful names that have been paried, parodied or 2025 01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:13.760 talked about in in mob movies. 2026 01:50:13.800 --> 01:50:15.079 But please continue, his. 2027 01:50:17.359 --> 01:50:22.159 Names are like right out of the Sopranos. Yes, so, 2028 01:50:22.479 --> 01:50:25.119 Epollito was born into this mafia family. 2029 01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:28.680 His father was kind of an abusive character. No, no surprise, 2030 01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:30.479 and uh it was. 2031 01:50:31.079 --> 01:50:34.399 He grew up in a violent household and his way 2032 01:50:34.439 --> 01:50:38.079 of rebelling against his family was to join the police department. 2033 01:50:38.159 --> 01:50:41.640 When he joined the police department, nobody could believe it. 2034 01:50:41.640 --> 01:50:45.439 It was an act of rebellion, and he became a 2035 01:50:45.479 --> 01:50:50.760 successful cop. He became a decorated detective who earned headlines 2036 01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:54.000 for his work. But his family, as as is often 2037 01:50:54.079 --> 01:50:58.359 the case, his family drew him back in and he 2038 01:50:59.439 --> 01:51:03.119 and his best friend and partner in the police force 2039 01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:08.279 began working for the Lakesy crime family. They were on 2040 01:51:08.359 --> 01:51:10.159 the they were on the payroll. 2041 01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:13.840 It's amazing Uh, now does this book at all? 2042 01:51:14.119 --> 01:51:16.680 I've not gotten deep into it, so I'll just ask you, 2043 01:51:16.720 --> 01:51:20.239 does it get into when you talk about a time 2044 01:51:20.279 --> 01:51:23.920 of disorder? It seemed to coincide not only would Juliani's 2045 01:51:24.760 --> 01:51:29.800 prosecution and crackdown, but also it seems to intersect with 2046 01:51:29.960 --> 01:51:33.079 the the ero of John Gottie and characters like Sammy 2047 01:51:33.119 --> 01:51:33.439 the Bull. 2048 01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:35.760 Are those guys mentioned in the book. 2049 01:51:37.479 --> 01:51:40.640 They are mentioned in the book, and the reason they're 2050 01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:41.920 mentioned is that. 2051 01:51:43.920 --> 01:51:45.800 The cops worked. 2052 01:51:45.439 --> 01:51:50.640 For an underboss known as gas Pipe Caso. He was 2053 01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:54.560 the one who paid them for their services. Gas Pipe 2054 01:51:54.600 --> 01:52:01.079 Case has spent most of his adult life kill informants 2055 01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:06.520 and then he became an informant himself, and the Feds 2056 01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:13.720 intended to use gas Pipe to testify against these two cops. 2057 01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:22.119 Something unexpected happened, and that is that gas Pipes started 2058 01:52:22.640 --> 01:52:27.680 to bad mouse the other informants, including Sammy the Bull, 2059 01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:33.279 who was critical to the prosecution of John Gotti. Right, So, 2060 01:52:34.039 --> 01:52:37.520 the federal prosecutors had a problem on their hand, and 2061 01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:42.439 the way they solved it was to tear up gas Pipes, 2062 01:52:43.079 --> 01:52:46.079 plea agreement and send him to Supermax prison. 2063 01:52:47.600 --> 01:52:48.720 Nobody heard from. 2064 01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:52.319 Him again until he died of COVID four years ago 2065 01:52:53.319 --> 01:52:57.920 in prison. So who was the beneficiary of this Epolito 2066 01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:02.199 and Kara Kappa, the two corrupt cops because there was 2067 01:53:02.279 --> 01:53:05.840 no longer gas Pipe was no longer around to talk 2068 01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:09.039 about what they had done and testify against. 2069 01:53:09.119 --> 01:53:12.199 Well, I don't want to jeopardize a key part of 2070 01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:15.840 the book, but a key part of them finally being 2071 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:21.720 found out to be the absolute dastardly criminals that they 2072 01:53:21.800 --> 01:53:26.159 were was another detective who was on his way out 2073 01:53:26.159 --> 01:53:29.600 the door, basically was going to be retiring, and he 2074 01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:34.359 saw these open cases and these files and just wanted 2075 01:53:34.359 --> 01:53:36.279 to close the case, so he tracked it down. 2076 01:53:36.319 --> 01:53:37.920 Tell me about this dude for a minute. 2077 01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:43.119 Yeah, Tommy Dads, I mean, if if I should be 2078 01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:46.720 so lucky as to have this made into a movie someday, 2079 01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:50.359 I'm told I told Tommy Days, I think Bruce Springsteen 2080 01:53:50.439 --> 01:53:54.640 should play him. Tommy Dads is an amazing guy and 2081 01:53:54.680 --> 01:54:00.199 a very charismatic detective who was very close to the 2082 01:54:00.239 --> 01:54:03.960 mothers in the cases that he worked. He was he 2083 01:54:04.039 --> 01:54:07.039 was the son of a single of single woman, a 2084 01:54:07.079 --> 01:54:11.039 single mother, and in his in his professional life, he 2085 01:54:11.199 --> 01:54:13.439 tended to be very close to the mothers of both 2086 01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:20.279 the victims and the perpetrators, and one of the mothers 2087 01:54:20.600 --> 01:54:25.359 of the uh a young man that these two cops 2088 01:54:25.439 --> 01:54:31.600 abducted and was subsequently killed. She figured out who abducted 2089 01:54:31.640 --> 01:54:36.119 her son, and she shared that information with Tommy Dates. 2090 01:54:36.760 --> 01:54:40.000 And that's that's really how they got caught, is that 2091 01:54:40.079 --> 01:54:46.520 Tommy Tommy began to investigate them long after everybody else 2092 01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:48.079 had forgotten about this case. 2093 01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:50.000 I see. 2094 01:54:50.239 --> 01:54:53.479 I noticed one chapter that just caught my attention, and 2095 01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:56.800 I didn't get too far into it, called the Botched Hit. 2096 01:54:57.359 --> 01:55:00.279 I didn't know that the mafia didn't always comp fleet 2097 01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:03.640 the connect the dots and stuff like that, but apparently 2098 01:55:03.880 --> 01:55:04.159 they do. 2099 01:55:04.520 --> 01:55:06.680 In a story in this book, Blood and the Badge. 2100 01:55:08.399 --> 01:55:09.479 Yeah, I mean, gaspit. 2101 01:55:09.640 --> 01:55:15.880 Casso, the underboss of the Lukse crime family, was nearly 2102 01:55:15.960 --> 01:55:19.439 assassinated while he ate an ice cream cone outside of 2103 01:55:19.479 --> 01:55:21.800 a strip mall in Brooklyn. 2104 01:55:23.039 --> 01:55:25.319 It was a little feud that he had with another 2105 01:55:25.439 --> 01:55:26.159 mob member. 2106 01:55:26.239 --> 01:55:26.920 He escaped. 2107 01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:31.000 He ran into a restaurant and hid in the refrigerator 2108 01:55:31.079 --> 01:55:37.039 in the basement, and then devoted himself to tracking down 2109 01:55:37.079 --> 01:55:38.720 the people who tried to kill him. 2110 01:55:39.239 --> 01:55:40.119 And so he. 2111 01:55:41.800 --> 01:55:45.920 Relied largely on these two corrupt cops to help them 2112 01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:46.159 with that. 2113 01:55:46.800 --> 01:55:49.960 It's an amazing I really can't and I'm not a 2114 01:55:50.039 --> 01:55:52.439 voracious reader. Michael, I'll be honest with you, but I 2115 01:55:52.479 --> 01:55:56.119 can't wait to crack into Blood in the Badge, the Mafia, 2116 01:55:56.159 --> 01:55:59.520 two killer cops, and a scandal that shocked the naked nation. 2117 01:56:00.079 --> 01:56:02.680 The author Michael Knell, and thank you so much for 2118 01:56:02.720 --> 01:56:04.680 the time. I wish you great success with the book. 2119 01:56:04.680 --> 01:56:06.800 I think this is a can't miss. I really do 2120 01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:08.560 thank you. 2121 01:56:08.640 --> 01:56:09.720 I really appreciate that. 2122 01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:13.359 You bet you. The night cap continues as we wrap 2123 01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:15.760 up in moments on seven hundred WLW. 2124 01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:18.840 Our new and improved iHeart Radio App has made it 2125 01:56:18.880 --> 01:56:22.720 even easier to enjoy the radio stations, podcasts, and playlists. 2126 01:56:22.199 --> 01:56:23.600 You love how well. 2127 01:56:23.600 --> 01:56:26.039 We've atted everything you love about your car radio into 2128 01:56:26.079 --> 01:56:28.680 the free iHeart Radio app. With easy to use presets, 2129 01:56:28.760 --> 01:56:31.159 you can now save your favorite stations on the app, 2130 01:56:31.279 --> 01:56:32.960 just like in your car, and with the all new 2131 01:56:32.960 --> 01:56:35.520 live radio dial, it's easier than ever to discover new 2132 01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:38.319 stations you'll love based on your location or favorite genre. 2133 01:56:38.960 --> 01:56:41.199 Find out what everyone's talking about and get the new 2134 01:56:41.199 --> 01:56:43.760 and improved free iHeart Radio App today on. 2135 01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:49.880 Radio pokesperson paid for it like Action Matters texting Privacy Policon. 2136 01:56:49.640 --> 01:56:54.319 Tuesday evening, we bring you the author of land Rich 2137 01:56:54.520 --> 01:56:57.279 Cash Poor. He's a guy who grew up on a 2138 01:56:57.319 --> 01:57:02.199 farm in Wisconsin. His family farms, and he's very, very 2139 01:57:02.239 --> 01:57:06.800 concerned about the family business and that should concern us 2140 01:57:06.880 --> 01:57:11.119 all as consumers about what the farms bring to us 2141 01:57:11.199 --> 01:57:16.520 on a daily basis. Brian Reisinger, welcome back to the Nightcap. 2142 01:57:16.600 --> 01:57:18.840 It's been a few months, but we did have you 2143 01:57:18.880 --> 01:57:22.920 on a little while ago, and things just continue to 2144 01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:28.079 get worse for the family farm and especially consumers of 2145 01:57:29.079 --> 01:57:32.119 staples like eggs, and the price is just keep going 2146 01:57:32.159 --> 01:57:34.960 through the roof, and bird flu is playing a major role. 2147 01:57:36.199 --> 01:57:39.279 Welcome to the show, Happy new year, and tell me 2148 01:57:39.600 --> 01:57:42.479 what we can expect as twenty twenty five progresses. 2149 01:57:42.640 --> 01:57:45.359 Brian, absolutely well, thanks for having me back on. 2150 01:57:45.359 --> 01:57:46.880 I appreciate Happy new year to you too. 2151 01:57:46.920 --> 01:57:49.159 You're absolutely right, and I think you know we don't 2152 01:57:49.199 --> 01:57:51.640 see some changes to the way our food system works. 2153 01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:54.119 We're going to continue to see high prices and eggs. 2154 01:57:54.119 --> 01:57:55.520 We may see higher prices in milk. 2155 01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:57.680 And here's what's going on. As you mentioned, bird. 2156 01:57:57.479 --> 01:58:01.119 Flu is hitting you know, facility that raise chickens that 2157 01:58:01.439 --> 01:58:03.680 produce eggs. And the problem that we have is we've 2158 01:58:03.720 --> 01:58:06.239 got such an integrated food system because we were wiping 2159 01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:08.359 out so many of our family farms now for so 2160 01:58:08.520 --> 01:58:11.119 long forty five thousand a year for the past century, 2161 01:58:11.159 --> 01:58:12.960 on average, annually. 2162 01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:14.000 We've been losing know all about that. 2163 01:58:14.079 --> 01:58:17.880 We've been losing forty five thousand family farms a year. 2164 01:58:19.079 --> 01:58:20.119 Amazing, isn't it? 2165 01:58:20.159 --> 01:58:22.600 On average for the past century, we've lost forty an 2166 01:58:22.600 --> 01:58:24.760 firee thousand a year, and that is seventy percent of 2167 01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:26.920 our family farm. So we wonder why eggs and other 2168 01:58:26.920 --> 01:58:29.720 things are so expensive. There aren't enough places where people 2169 01:58:29.720 --> 01:58:31.720 can go get eggs. When you got a disaster like 2170 01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:34.079 the bird flu, it hits and all the places where 2171 01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:35.720 we normally get our eggs through. You know, you get 2172 01:58:35.720 --> 01:58:38.159 a big processing plant or a big distribution center that 2173 01:58:38.239 --> 01:58:39.439 goes down because of bird. 2174 01:58:39.279 --> 01:58:42.239 Flu or what have you. It causes huge problems. 2175 01:58:42.239 --> 01:58:44.800 If we had more family farms to plan more food locally, 2176 01:58:45.119 --> 01:58:47.520 we wouldn't have the egg prices going through the roof 2177 01:58:47.560 --> 01:58:48.439 like we're experiencing. 2178 01:58:48.600 --> 01:58:48.800 Well. 2179 01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:54.960 I have heard different things about this avian flu. One 2180 01:58:55.239 --> 01:59:01.119 is is that it's really not that virulent, and it 2181 01:59:01.279 --> 01:59:05.039 just makes chicken sick. It's not killing other animals, it's 2182 01:59:05.079 --> 01:59:08.000 not jumping speceis And then I hear exactly the opposite. 2183 01:59:08.079 --> 01:59:10.079 What do you know about the latest on bird flu 2184 01:59:10.079 --> 01:59:10.680 in America? 2185 01:59:11.720 --> 01:59:13.560 Yeah, it's such a great question, because you do get 2186 01:59:13.600 --> 01:59:16.800 all that information flying around. You know, from what I 2187 01:59:16.840 --> 01:59:19.680 can tell, there is concern and there's risk that it 2188 01:59:19.720 --> 01:59:23.920 could you know, jump into our milk supply as well, 2189 01:59:24.600 --> 01:59:27.880 and that that is a real and valid concern. Here's 2190 01:59:27.920 --> 01:59:31.479 the issue, however far it can spread, and however much 2191 01:59:31.520 --> 01:59:33.319 we should be concerned about, whether it's a lot or 2192 01:59:33.319 --> 01:59:35.880 a little, we do know that it is very clearly 2193 01:59:35.920 --> 01:59:39.760 affecting the supply of our eggs. It is wiping out 2194 01:59:39.880 --> 01:59:41.800 the supply of our eggs and stores, you know, stores 2195 01:59:41.840 --> 01:59:43.800 all across the country. People can't find eggs in the 2196 01:59:43.840 --> 01:59:46.199 first place. If they can, it's far more expensive, and 2197 01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:49.319 in some cases those egg prices are record breaking, you know. 2198 01:59:49.600 --> 01:59:50.720 More expensive than meat. 2199 01:59:51.319 --> 01:59:54.920 And so we've got to understand that, Yes, we've got 2200 01:59:54.960 --> 01:59:57.560 to deal with the bird flu, but more importantly, we've 2201 01:59:57.600 --> 01:59:59.840 got to stop this trend of disappearing farms, and we've 2202 01:59:59.880 --> 02:00:01.680 got to find a way for more of our farms 2203 02:00:01.680 --> 02:00:04.319 to be able to supply more of our food because 2204 02:00:04.319 --> 02:00:06.359 we do have even though we've lost so many, we 2205 02:00:06.399 --> 02:00:08.800 do have nearly two million farms left. If more of 2206 02:00:08.800 --> 02:00:11.359 those farms could play an active role in providing food 2207 02:00:11.359 --> 02:00:13.680 to the American dinner table, we could make it so 2208 02:00:13.760 --> 02:00:15.560 that when Burkel or something like that strikes, it's not 2209 02:00:15.640 --> 02:00:17.560 as big of a threat to our food supply chain. 2210 02:00:18.359 --> 02:00:18.600 Right. 2211 02:00:19.640 --> 02:00:22.720 I mean, are you a fan of the government paying 2212 02:00:22.800 --> 02:00:27.720 farm subsidies. I've always wondered about why do we need 2213 02:00:28.439 --> 02:00:32.600 if this is such a noble profession and farmers know 2214 02:00:32.640 --> 02:00:35.079 what they're doing, why do we need to pay farmers 2215 02:00:35.199 --> 02:00:38.239 not to grow certain crops or to grow certain crops 2216 02:00:38.279 --> 02:00:42.439 to prop up prices here and there. What's your feeling 2217 02:00:42.560 --> 02:00:45.520 overall on subsidies for farms? 2218 02:00:45.840 --> 02:00:46.880 Are they necessary? 2219 02:00:47.960 --> 02:00:48.680 You know, I'll tell you. 2220 02:00:48.800 --> 02:00:50.600 We could debate each individual program. 2221 02:00:50.640 --> 02:00:51.439 Here's the reality. 2222 02:00:51.479 --> 02:00:54.119 What we need more so the government subsidies, is we 2223 02:00:54.199 --> 02:00:56.560 need new entrepreneur opportunity. 2224 02:00:56.159 --> 02:00:56.760 For our farms. 2225 02:00:56.840 --> 02:00:58.800 We got all of those farms that are left, and 2226 02:00:58.840 --> 02:01:01.479 nearly two million, most of them are small farms. That 2227 02:01:01.560 --> 02:01:04.119 surprises people, and the reason is the big farm supplier 2228 02:01:04.159 --> 02:01:07.039 food the smaller farms, they try to supply some of it, 2229 02:01:07.159 --> 02:01:09.319 but they aren't able to farm full time because they're 2230 02:01:09.359 --> 02:01:11.680 not even like a full time living, and so they're 2231 02:01:11.680 --> 02:01:14.079 working two three jobs in addition to work in the farm. 2232 02:01:14.159 --> 02:01:16.960 What we need to do is have new entrepreneur opportunity 2233 02:01:16.960 --> 02:01:18.880 in this country. We got more people who care about 2234 02:01:18.880 --> 02:01:21.239 where our food comes from than ever before. We got 2235 02:01:21.239 --> 02:01:23.439 all these family farms that are working hard supplying food 2236 02:01:23.439 --> 02:01:26.399 where they can. If they could be growing entrepreneuri adventures again, 2237 02:01:26.439 --> 02:01:27.760 then to do a hack of a lot more than 2238 02:01:27.800 --> 02:01:29.119 a government program would for them. 2239 02:01:29.439 --> 02:01:30.920 Brian, I think I've told you before. 2240 02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:39.479 My beloved late uncle Jerry Maybeus was a huge farmer 2241 02:01:39.640 --> 02:01:43.199 in southeastern Iowa his entire life, and it was he 2242 02:01:43.359 --> 02:01:47.359 was about a fourth generation of the Maybiest family that 2243 02:01:47.520 --> 02:01:50.560 farmed this land. They just kept on growing it and 2244 02:01:50.600 --> 02:01:53.960 growing it growing. It was a family farm and it 2245 02:01:54.079 --> 02:01:58.199 still is. But people don't understand you talk about working 2246 02:01:58.199 --> 02:02:02.319 two or three other jobs. He worked sixteen hours a 2247 02:02:02.439 --> 02:02:08.079 day every day pretty much most of his life to 2248 02:02:08.199 --> 02:02:11.039 keep that going. And he had a lot of acreage, 2249 02:02:11.520 --> 02:02:15.920 mind you, it's a large farm, pigs, cows, had his 2250 02:02:15.960 --> 02:02:19.680 own pork processing plant right across the road from his farmhouse, 2251 02:02:20.159 --> 02:02:23.359 where all the meat was prepared and shipped off to 2252 02:02:23.479 --> 02:02:27.000 market and whatever it was packaged and everything had chickens 2253 02:02:27.239 --> 02:02:30.199 and the like. So it was a big operation. But 2254 02:02:30.760 --> 02:02:35.399 it is so labor intensive as a profession. I don't 2255 02:02:35.439 --> 02:02:36.680 know why anyone would want. 2256 02:02:36.600 --> 02:02:39.600 To do it, you know, it really is. 2257 02:02:39.640 --> 02:02:40.439 It's a lot of work. 2258 02:02:40.479 --> 02:02:43.279 It's sun up the sundown on a normal day and 2259 02:02:43.319 --> 02:02:44.800 then you got you know, if you've got a time 2260 02:02:44.840 --> 02:02:47.359 of year planting or harvest where you're in the fields, 2261 02:02:47.760 --> 02:02:49.279 it can be the sky's the limit terms of the 2262 02:02:49.279 --> 02:02:49.760 hours a day. 2263 02:02:49.760 --> 02:02:50.399 And that's true. 2264 02:02:50.439 --> 02:02:52.520 It's a lot of hard working. It's economic hardship to 2265 02:02:52.560 --> 02:02:54.720 it as well. It's also a beautiful way of life. 2266 02:02:54.800 --> 02:02:56.800 You know, you grow up working with your dad in 2267 02:02:56.840 --> 02:02:58.560 the time you can walk see the cow dog running 2268 02:02:58.600 --> 02:03:00.800 up the pasture bringing the cows into the box, still 2269 02:03:00.840 --> 02:03:03.199 coming down through the meadow. I mean, it is a 2270 02:03:03.199 --> 02:03:05.199 beautiful thing. You get down in your blood, your bones. 2271 02:03:05.319 --> 02:03:07.199 And what I always say to people is they are 2272 02:03:07.239 --> 02:03:09.600 all these farm families still work in their farms, whether 2273 02:03:09.600 --> 02:03:12.039 they're a farm like that. That's a full time operation 2274 02:03:12.159 --> 02:03:14.640 and it's taken every moment they got, or whether they're 2275 02:03:14.640 --> 02:03:16.359 trying to keep their farm going on the side while 2276 02:03:16.359 --> 02:03:19.920 they're pulling factory shifts and pouring concrete or whatever else 2277 02:03:19.920 --> 02:03:22.560 they're doing. These are people who are working so hard 2278 02:03:22.560 --> 02:03:24.800 to try to feed our country, and they're doing it 2279 02:03:24.840 --> 02:03:27.319 even though it's a you know, it's an economic situation. 2280 02:03:27.359 --> 02:03:28.840 It doesn't really work for him anymore. 2281 02:03:28.960 --> 02:03:30.720 Imagine what we could accompts in this country who have 2282 02:03:30.720 --> 02:03:31.239 made it work. 2283 02:03:31.840 --> 02:03:32.119 Well. 2284 02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:36.520 You know, I love this topic because again, I've never 2285 02:03:36.600 --> 02:03:39.600 been involved in the farm work myself, but I have 2286 02:03:39.800 --> 02:03:43.960 plenty of relatives and family ties. Brian Riisinger land rich, 2287 02:03:44.159 --> 02:03:47.399 cash poor, my family's hope, and the untold history of 2288 02:03:47.439 --> 02:03:51.359 the disappearing American farmer. All I can do is pray 2289 02:03:51.920 --> 02:03:55.359 that what you are petitioning for comes true. 2290 02:03:55.640 --> 02:03:58.720 Brian, take care, Thank you so much, Thank 2291 02:03:58.760 --> 02:04:03.399 You, And in honor of America's farmers and America the 2292 02:04:03.520 --> 02:04:07.880 national anthem, the Star Spangled banner on seven hundred WLW