Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Nightcap on seven hundred wlw our
Speaker 1: next guest I had the chance to speak to the
Speaker 1: first time.
Speaker 2: Gosh, it's been maybe four or five years ago.
Speaker 1: And not because I haven't thought about having her on
Speaker 1: again since, but there's been no better time to talk
Speaker 1: about Canada to a Canadian and anti feminist of the
Speaker 1: author of Girl Wrights. What that's a YouTube channel and
Speaker 1: it's back. Karen Strawn is back on the Nightcap. Welcome back,
Speaker 1: Karen Strawn.
Speaker 2: How are you in? Happy new year?
Speaker 3: Oh, happy new year to you and I'm doing just great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mom of three?
Speaker 1: And basically, what is the thing you say about your
Speaker 1: average feminist the radical notion that anti feminism is the
Speaker 1: radical notion that women are are actually adults.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, women are adults, or at least they should
Speaker 3: aspire to be so, right and feminism feminism doesn't help them, no,
Speaker 3: achieve that.
Speaker 2: It takes away that notion.
Speaker 1: Another good reason that the man who has been Prime
Speaker 1: Minister of Canada through a very dark period in your
Speaker 1: country's history is finally stepping down and he's a feminist.
Speaker 2: He confessed it.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, here's the thing. Okay, I don't
Speaker 3: know whether how much you Americans know about Maggie Trudeau
Speaker 3: his mother. Right, So Pierre Elliott Trudeau was the Prime
Speaker 3: Minister of Canada in like the nineteen late nineteen sixties,
Speaker 3: early early seventies, right, and yeah, Maggie Trudeau his wife. Like,
Speaker 3: there's rumors going around that Justin is actually Fidel Castro's son,
Speaker 3: which I wouldn't. I don't necessarily, I'm not that skeptical
Speaker 3: about that conspiracy theory because the Trudeau's were very friendly
Speaker 3: with Castro and visited him often, and Castro was very
Speaker 3: happy to see Justin and dandle him on his knee
Speaker 3: during a visit when Justin was just a baby. And
Speaker 3: you look at the resemblance and it's uncanny, right, he
Speaker 3: doesn't look anything like Pierre Trudeau. He looks everything like
Speaker 3: a young Sidel Castro. Right, But but you look at
Speaker 3: you look at her behavior. You know, she's bipolar, has
Speaker 3: probably has borderline personality disorder, and she h you know,
Speaker 3: the second time her husband was sworn into office, she
Speaker 3: was busy partying with getting drunk with friends in Cancun
Speaker 3: or something, some Cabo or something like that. Then she
Speaker 3: disappeared for like three weeks or a month and people
Speaker 3: were asking Pierre, you know, the media was asking Pierre
Speaker 3: where her wife, like where is she? And he just
Speaker 3: had to say, no comment, no comment, because she was
Speaker 3: off banging the rolling stones while they were on tour.
Speaker 4: Right, right, okay?
Speaker 3: And Justin Trudeau said his mother was the one who
Speaker 3: taught him what feminism was all about. Right, and that
Speaker 3: was my first red flag. The moment he said his
Speaker 3: mother taught him what feminism was all about, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's about mental illness, all right, yeah, okay, and you're
Speaker 3: still embracing it. You call yourself a feminist, all right? No,
Speaker 3: no red flag.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Well, more to the point of looking to
Speaker 1: the future. You know, we are in the United States,
Speaker 1: we are very much looking forward to next Monday and
Speaker 1: what comes after with President Trump returning to the presidency
Speaker 1: and starting to starting the office with the bang something
Speaker 1: like one hundred executive orders to undo all of the
Speaker 1: craziness and nonsense that occurred during the Biden administration's four years.
Speaker 1: You too, are looking with a hopeful nod to the
Speaker 1: future in Canada, not necessarily to be our fifty first
Speaker 1: and fifty second state, but a new leader taking Justine
Speaker 1: Trudeau's place as Prime minister of your country and the
Speaker 1: Conservative Party, and after all of the stuff that Justin
Speaker 1: Trudeau pulled, especially during COVID and the like with the truckers,
Speaker 1: that this is going to be a major seed change
Speaker 1: politically in.
Speaker 2: Your country, is it not?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I mean, anybody, anybody in America who wants
Speaker 3: to actually find out what the new regime is going to.
Speaker 6: You should go to.
Speaker 3: Go on YouTube and search Pierre Poaliev.
Speaker 7: P O I L I E V R E.
Speaker 3: And then the video title is how do you like
Speaker 3: them apples?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: And uh, And he's dealing with a leftist reporter and
Speaker 3: he's while he's eating an apple. He's eating an apple.
Speaker 2: I saw, I saw that. I saw that. It's amazing school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it was. It was unbelievable. I I
Speaker 3: would just I sent it to all of my friends.
Speaker 3: I was just like, you gotta watch this. This is
Speaker 3: amazing because he's just like he just doesn't put up
Speaker 3: with any bs, right, He's not going to be He's
Speaker 3: not going to back down from being called racist or
Speaker 3: sexist or this or that, you know, like bigots or
Speaker 3: you know, anti Semite or like anti Muslim or you know,
Speaker 3: transphobic or anything like that. He's he's just like, yeah.
Speaker 5: No, no, give me an example, give me.
Speaker 4: An you brought it up.
Speaker 3: You have to you have to have wanted at least
Speaker 3: one example, right, And so yeah, No's he's like a
Speaker 3: no Bs kind of leader. And you know, like I
Speaker 3: don't agree with him on everything, but but as far
Speaker 3: as his ability to maybe take this country forward in
Speaker 3: a new direction, I think that that's that's a good thing.
Speaker 3: And you know, like our economy is is absolutely like
Speaker 3: we got we got hit with COVID, inflation and all
Speaker 3: of that, right, but our woes were well underway long
Speaker 3: before COVID, Right. You know, the Trudeau government was you know,
Speaker 3: began in twenty fifteen, and and that's when housing prizes
Speaker 3: started to rise, because regulations for new housing developments just
Speaker 3: exponentially increased. And it takes like twenty one years or
Speaker 3: nineteen years or something like to get any kind of
Speaker 3: project approved at this point. And so it's basically you're
Speaker 3: looking at a situation where the government is standing in
Speaker 3: the way of progress and is doing it for like
Speaker 3: absolutely stupid reasons. And you know, like I'm just looking
Speaker 3: forward to in March twenty fifth, Parliament is in session
Speaker 3: again and there will be a motion of no confidence
Speaker 3: and that motion will be passed, and that will topple
Speaker 3: the government and will trigger a snap election within fifty
Speaker 3: one days. That's the deadline, fifty one days at most,
Speaker 3: and then we'll have a new leader.
Speaker 1: So well, they Trudeau said that he would stay on
Speaker 1: until the party picks a new leader. Are they waiting
Speaker 1: from word from President g and China as to who
Speaker 1: the new leader will be?
Speaker 3: No, No, this is business. The way Canadian politics works.
Speaker 3: The new leader has to be elected by the Liberal Party,
Speaker 3: right justin Trudeau is leader of the Liberal Party, and
Speaker 3: he can't just hand off the job to his deputy
Speaker 3: prime minister and walk away. He actually actually has to
Speaker 3: stay in office until a new leader is picked. And
Speaker 3: there are some people who are in the running, you know,
Speaker 3: but I can't some people, like notable people like I
Speaker 3: think Mark Carney, who was like the governor of the
Speaker 3: Bank of Canada for a while, and Chris jah Freeland
Speaker 3: who was deputy Prime Minister and Finance minister for a while.
Speaker 3: But you know, honestly, I don't think that there's any
Speaker 3: salvaging the party at this point. Fifty one days is
Speaker 3: is it's I mean, like everybody's complaining Kommala only had
Speaker 3: one hundred days right to rehabilitate the Democrat brand in
Speaker 3: terms of the presidency, and none of these people who
Speaker 3: were actually involved in Canadian governance associated with Liberals are
Speaker 3: going to be able to rehabilitate the Liberals brand within
Speaker 3: fifty one days.
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds similar in this country because many of
Speaker 1: people are saying that the Democrat Party in our country
Speaker 1: is going to take twenty years to recover. I'm not
Speaker 1: that optimistic. I think they'll come back like any scourge,
Speaker 1: like herpes and kudzu.
Speaker 3: But I would would I would expect that the Liberal
Speaker 3: Party this coming election right whenever it's he it will
Speaker 3: probably be held in spring. I would expect that they
Speaker 3: might even be in danger of losing official part status.
Speaker 3: You have to have a certain number of seats in
Speaker 3: parliament and a certain amount of the popular vote in
Speaker 3: order to have official party status. And I have seen
Speaker 3: Liberal governments lose official party status after running a majority government.
Speaker 6: Multiple times.
Speaker 3: In provincial politics, right Ontario, when Doug Ford ran for
Speaker 3: premier against Kathleen Wynn, you know, and she had just
Speaker 3: governed so poorly for four years that she took She
Speaker 3: single handedly took the Liberal Party of Ontario from the
Speaker 3: majority party in government to losing official party status in
Speaker 3: like a massive landslide for Doug Ford of the Conservative.
Speaker 2: You brought it, You brought up Doug Ford. He was
Speaker 2: quite the character, wasn't he.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you're talking about Rob for.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, he was.
Speaker 3: He was the mayor of Toronto and he was he
Speaker 3: was actually, yeah, I don't know how clean I have
Speaker 3: to keep this, so I don't necessarily know. Uh, you
Speaker 3: know what, I'm what I can say that I thought
Speaker 3: was hilarious about that guy, but there there were some
Speaker 3: allegations and of of sexual impropriety against him. Untalented and
Speaker 3: and uh and when he talked to reporters, I I
Speaker 3: laughed so hard, right, I just like I'm alone in
Speaker 3: a room, laughing my butt off right at his response
Speaker 3: to like, you know, he said he wanted to eat
Speaker 3: blah blah, and uh yeah and uh and and then
Speaker 3: and then he says, when reporters asked him about it,
Speaker 3: He's like, why would I say that I got plenty
Speaker 3: to eat at home?
Speaker 2: So perfect.
Speaker 1: Karen Strawn is hard guest on the Nightcap from Alberta, Canada,
Speaker 1: where it's actually warmer there than it is here because
Speaker 1: they sent there they're cold here. So thank you. Karen Strawn.
Speaker 1: I got to ask you too about Zuckerberg's cow telling
Speaker 1: now to the new Trump administration and sucking up and
Speaker 1: committing this money to the inauguration fund and saying that
Speaker 1: he's going to get rid of DEI and Tampon's and
Speaker 1: men's bathroom at Meta. I know you had some issues
Speaker 1: in the past where you got kicked off YouTube.
Speaker 3: And no no, I got kicked off of.
Speaker 1: Twitter under Jack. It was one of the social media
Speaker 1: things you got kicked off of.
Speaker 2: Are you back on X now?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, I am at girl writes what Elon
Speaker 3: Musk reinstated my account?
Speaker 2: Do you trust? You trust? Do you trust Mark?
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg's a parent to come to Jesus moment with the.
Speaker 3: Cautiously I cautiously trust him and you know why, And
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why because it it wasn't that long ago,
Speaker 3: like maybe a year or two ago, that he decided
Speaker 3: he was going to get into like jiu jitsu and
Speaker 3: mixed martial arts and working out and getting healthy and
Speaker 3: one of the interesting things about men and testosterone is
Speaker 3: testosterone gives you confidence. It increases your ability to if
Speaker 3: your healthy testosterone increases your confidence, it loos your mood,
Speaker 3: it it increases fairness in bargaining, and it deep all
Speaker 3: serving lives. It's all documented in the literature. Okay, and okay,
Speaker 3: And what is the number one thing that boosts your
Speaker 3: testosterone levels to healthy? Winning?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 3: Okay, winning in a way that you feel like you're winning.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So he goes into the ring.
Speaker 3: Right, and he's working out and he's getting healthy, and
Speaker 3: you know, his testosterone is is coming up because of that.
Speaker 3: And then he goes and he does a fight, and
Speaker 3: he wins, wins fair and square, and and his testosterone
Speaker 3: goes up.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 3: Testosterone also increases rationality and helps you think, right, okay.
Speaker 3: So so it's it's like he may have just through
Speaker 3: this martial arts kind of I'm going to get fit
Speaker 3: and healthy and uh and a healthy testosterone level and
Speaker 3: have a healthy diet and stop eating soy and start
Speaker 3: you know, doing jiu jitsu.
Speaker 9: He may have.
Speaker 3: It may have changed his entire perspective on you know,
Speaker 3: how things should run.
Speaker 1: So in fact, the fact that he is no longer
Speaker 1: cultivating man breasts on himself actually is better for all
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 3: You know, well, if every man did that, we'd be
Speaker 3: all a lot better off.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree. Uh, I'm down to below an
Speaker 2: a cup, so I'm in good shape.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, honestly, honestly, Uh, testosterone works on women
Speaker 3: in these ways too, Reduction in the telling of self
Speaker 3: serving lies, more rational thinking, greater emotional stability, and and
Speaker 3: increased fairness in bargaining.
Speaker 2: So so tell me about what all.
Speaker 3: Of those things are men and women.
Speaker 1: So tell me about what you're doing these days besides
Speaker 1: being a mom and a wife and living in Alberta, Canada.
Speaker 1: What else is Karen Strawn into?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, you know I'm taken after. I'm looking after my mom,
Speaker 3: and you know I'm looking after my my husband. And
Speaker 3: you know, he's he's now the crime well the soul
Speaker 3: breadwinner really in the household. And so but he's got
Speaker 3: he's got he has special needs in terms of his diet.
Speaker 3: So I do a lot of cooking and and uh,
Speaker 3: and I I've been talking about Anybody can check out
Speaker 3: my blog. It's called Owning Your s h one t
Speaker 3: but the one is actually an eye.
Speaker 4: Dot blogspot dot com.
Speaker 3: And but uh, you know, I did a deep dive
Speaker 3: into the m RNA vaccines and how they work and
Speaker 3: why they're causing so many problems, and you know, I
Speaker 3: I've just I've just been kind of all over the
Speaker 3: place in terms of you know, since COVID, I kind
Speaker 3: of I was like, my men's rights and anti feminist
Speaker 3: thesis is mostly up on my channel. Anybody can go
Speaker 3: and start watching from the very beginning and see my
Speaker 3: evolution of my thesis throughout the years that I was
Speaker 3: doing that, and uh and yeah, no, but I sort
Speaker 3: of got into discussing, you know, how how the mRNA
Speaker 3: vaccines and the adino virus vector vaccines actually work and
Speaker 3: why they cause so many more problems than traditional conventional vaccines.
Speaker 3: So anybody who's interested in that can go in and
Speaker 3: read my deep dive into the mRNA vaccines.
Speaker 2: And that would be on Girl What Writes What or
Speaker 2: would be owning no that?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah no, no, I would never put it on
Speaker 3: my YouTube channel. I would risk losing the entire channel.
Speaker 3: I put it on my blog, owning your you.
Speaker 2: Know whatsh Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, Karen.
Speaker 1: Stropot dot com blogspot dot com. Yeah, all right, thank
Speaker 1: you so much, and I hope we'll have another chance
Speaker 1: to commits maybe after your maybe after your your government
Speaker 1: meets there in March and we decide how Canada is
Speaker 1: going forward with a new leader.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that for you.
Speaker 3: I oh god, I'm I'm so looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking forward to forward to it for the
Speaker 2: rest of North America's sake to Karen.
Speaker 1: Karen, thank you so much, thank you very much. All Right,
Speaker 1: you bet it's the nightcap and we're not done yet.
Speaker 1: Stick around. Yes, it is time for more sports for
Speaker 1: the out of sorts and to sort it out. The
Speaker 1: one and only Andy Furman who here to rock the
Speaker 1: kasma on the nightcap on this Tuesday night. Andy, you
Speaker 1: were worried about the snow showers that we were forecast
Speaker 1: to get, and I guess we got a few flakes
Speaker 1: around and that's not just in the news department, but
Speaker 1: we had it. But as I told you just moments ago,
Speaker 1: when you've survived a foot you can handle a dusting,
Speaker 1: can't you. I know you didn't come out of your
Speaker 1: house for about you didn't come out of your house
Speaker 1: for about five.
Speaker 5: Days, right, I bunker down pretty good, really, And the
Speaker 5: point is this, I don't want to take a shot
Speaker 5: at a profession because everybody who's a professional in life
Speaker 5: has trained to do so, and it is their love,
Speaker 5: is their passion. Correct if they're not good at and
Speaker 5: I'm not saying good bit or indifferent, but it is
Speaker 5: the greatest job in the world. In baseball, if you
Speaker 5: go three for three for ten and they got seven
Speaker 5: times in your career, you probably end up in the
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Which is a three hundred hitter, no doubt. Okay.
Speaker 5: In the weather forecasting, if you go three for ten,
Speaker 5: maybe not so good. I understand it changes. You know,
Speaker 5: you're in the mountain areas. I mean, you have different
Speaker 5: wind shifts and whatever. I get it. But it's the
Speaker 5: greatest job in the world because there's no accountability. That's
Speaker 5: why I want to have a job in life when
Speaker 5: I grow up. If I were to grow up again,
Speaker 5: but there's no accountability. Think about it. Do you think
Speaker 5: the news director at a TV station calls the weatherman
Speaker 5: and said, wait a minute, you predicted six inches of
Speaker 5: snow and we've got a dusty You are fired. We
Speaker 5: want to get a new guy in football. This accountability.
Speaker 5: Lejana Rumo was a scapegoat at defensive coordinator for the Begels.
Speaker 5: The Bengals defense stunk. He paid for it. He lost
Speaker 5: his job. In the weather forecasting business, there's no accountability.
Speaker 5: It's a great job. I should have won that route
Speaker 5: and I'm sure they get paid good money.
Speaker 1: When a TV weather man is no longer on screen,
Speaker 1: it means one of two things. They've gotten a better
Speaker 1: job somewhere else, or they're retired.
Speaker 2: That's it, because you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't get fired for for not being able to
Speaker 1: forecast the weather if you're a media You know, I
Speaker 1: love Gary Burbank.
Speaker 2: I loved him to death. I know you did too,
Speaker 2: and I used to love the fact.
Speaker 5: Do we dos passed?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, So we do love Gary Burbank. But one of
Speaker 1: the things he used to do on his show all
Speaker 1: the time was refer to someone as the cheap media urologist,
Speaker 1: right instead of.
Speaker 7: People.
Speaker 5: I love Steve Rawley, you know, I go to the
Speaker 5: montgomer unity of Sigardener. He's a I love the man.
Speaker 5: I love all the weather people in town that they're
Speaker 5: They're wonderful. But the point is this, I think they
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying is probably true. There's no accountability
Speaker 5: there really isn't.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I mean, when there's a no doubter like what we
Speaker 1: experienced last week, they nail it to the wall so
Speaker 1: that so that I think that buys them time on
Speaker 1: the next time they forecast something and it does not
Speaker 1: come true.
Speaker 2: It's not an easy job. Really.
Speaker 1: You say you want to have that job, but it's
Speaker 1: not an easy job to accurately because.
Speaker 5: When there is a big, a big weather change, these
Speaker 5: guys what they do at these the men do they
Speaker 5: take their sport code off and roll off their shirt
Speaker 5: sleeves like they're getting into the trenches really big time.
Speaker 5: And they got to put the time in. I mean,
Speaker 5: you know guys like Steve Horsmeyer. I've seen him on
Speaker 5: Channel nineteen. He'll spend the night. He'll spend two or
Speaker 5: three days at Channel nineteen. I could tell because he's
Speaker 5: wearing the same clothes for three days. You know. Really
Speaker 5: they spend the time there. They sleep at.
Speaker 2: The station like seg for example here.
Speaker 5: No, he doesn't drive it. He stays home. He stays
Speaker 5: in the middle of the well. Tell me I never
Speaker 5: used to drive into the state. Look when I went
Speaker 5: at seven hundred, they didn't have the ability to do
Speaker 5: remote broadcasting. You couldn't do it from home, right, you know,
Speaker 5: I don't think he does. I think he does it
Speaker 5: by phone. There's a on Fox Sports radio. I do
Speaker 5: it from home.
Speaker 1: There's there's a hotel right next door, Andy. You know,
Speaker 1: you could just stay in the hotel overnight so you
Speaker 1: could be ready.
Speaker 5: Where there were big storms, the staff would stay in
Speaker 5: a hotel and the tab would be picked up at
Speaker 5: the station. Those days are probably long gone.
Speaker 1: Well, in my particular case, I would have been staying
Speaker 1: at the hotel, but I'm broke, and nobody offered to
Speaker 1: pay for my.
Speaker 5: Hotel, but the management would pay for them. No, no, no,
Speaker 5: that's that's not.
Speaker 2: That's not that's not an option.
Speaker 1: But anyway, you know, I've talked with some some friends
Speaker 1: of mine and they want to file a class action
Speaker 1: lawsuit against weather forecast Is for bad forecasts, because no, look,
Speaker 1: you plan something and then they tell you that you
Speaker 1: can't do what you would plan to do, and you
Speaker 1: put all kinds of money and time aside, and then
Speaker 1: that event doesn't happen, and the weather event doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: So then you're you're out. You're financially hurt by their
Speaker 1: their faulty forecast. Don't you think that in our relgigious
Speaker 1: so that nobody agree with you?
Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, the light has gone off
Speaker 5: with my small pea brain. You know it's gonna happen.
Speaker 7: You know it's next.
Speaker 5: They're gonna sue fans of the NFL. They're gonna sue
Speaker 5: when they do these flexing of the games, flexing of
Speaker 5: games down the stretch. When you buy a ticket maybe
Speaker 5: for a one o'clock afternoon game, maybe late in the
Speaker 5: season in Green Bay, and they decide to flex it
Speaker 5: for like a Monday or Sunday night game when it's
Speaker 5: minus seven degrees and you really don't want to sit
Speaker 5: there in minus seven degrees in green Bay, Wisconsin in
Speaker 5: November December. Well they may do that as well.
Speaker 1: Obviously there'll be no one sitting in green Bay, Wisconsin
Speaker 1: anymore this season.
Speaker 5: How about well, at least at least in lambeau Field.
Speaker 1: I was really andy, let's just talk about the NFL
Speaker 1: for just a moment, since you brought up the NFL.
Speaker 1: I was I was shocked last night. I was on
Speaker 1: the air, but I was keeping an eye on the
Speaker 1: final playoff game of wild Card weekend. I was shocked
Speaker 1: to see how badly Minnesota showed after a fourteen win season,
Speaker 1: and Sam Donald and particularly showed after proving.
Speaker 5: Critics you weren't that surprised. I don't put all the blames.
Speaker 5: Don't put the entire blame on Sam Donald. Was that
Speaker 5: authensive line was pretty weak? They really were. Now, Sam
Speaker 5: Donald had a real bad performance last week. And you
Speaker 5: know what, what you could say about Sam Donald right
Speaker 5: now is like every time he's on the field, he's
Speaker 5: losing millions. He's losing millions. Okay, because here's a guy
Speaker 5: who they talked about the comeback player of the year
Speaker 5: and the guy who had the opportunity to play and
Speaker 5: and everything like that. I think right now there's a
Speaker 5: lot of questions in the minds of the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 5: Is he the guy that leaders in the future. Is
Speaker 5: he the quarterback? Is he the so called franchise quarterback,
Speaker 5: which in fact he was not anyway, because they drested
Speaker 5: the kid out of note to Dame who got hurt.
Speaker 5: So I think there's a questions. But you get fourteen
Speaker 5: wins and then they were the wildcard team. There's something
Speaker 5: wrong with the scheduling anyway. What they should do, they
Speaker 5: should do it like the NBA has it, regardless of
Speaker 5: division that you're in. Do the rankings by teams, as
Speaker 5: far as what ranking you are, as far as the
Speaker 5: placement and standings overall, not by the division that you're in.
Speaker 5: That's what the NBA does. But I don't think they're
Speaker 5: going to change that. However, I was not that surprised.
Speaker 5: I don't tell you. Just get the Rams some credit
Speaker 5: with that young defensive line that they have. Chris Shuler,
Speaker 5: the son of Dave Shuler, a defensive coordinator, has done
Speaker 5: a remarkable job over there. And I'll tell you something
Speaker 5: else about the Rams. They started one and four that
Speaker 5: had a slow star like the Bengals. Sean McVay is
Speaker 5: one hell of a coach, one hell of a coach, really,
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you what they may be reckoned with
Speaker 5: in the playoffs. But the big game coming up this Sunday,
Speaker 5: Buffalo playing who.
Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a heck of a game. The two so
Speaker 5: called quarterbacks who may be envy, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean if Joe Burrow had been on a playoff team.
Speaker 1: He would have been in that discussion as well as.
Speaker 2: We well know.
Speaker 5: But the queen had balls.
Speaker 1: The queen you mentioned that Chris Shula, the son of
Speaker 1: Dave Shula, the grandson of Don Shula.
Speaker 2: Correct, correct, All right, yes, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh, coaching greatness, like a lot of other talents, generally
Speaker 1: skips a generation because David did not exactly should not
Speaker 1: exactly demonstrate his father's prowess in leading men in the
Speaker 1: National Football League, particularly in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Did Dave Sula ever have a head coaching job in
Speaker 1: the NFL after the Bengals.
Speaker 2: I don't think he did. Did he know?
Speaker 5: He went back, He went to the restaurant business, who
Speaker 5: were immediately after.
Speaker 2: That's where he belongs.
Speaker 5: And I don't want to believe with the point because
Speaker 5: the season's over. I wrote about it. It was in
Speaker 5: Sunday's inquiry about Zach Taylor is the heck of a magician.
Speaker 7: He created magic.
Speaker 5: He took a super Bowl potential team in seventeen weeks
Speaker 5: and could him out of the playoffs. That's that's a
Speaker 5: magician's trick, and that's what he did. So we move
Speaker 5: on over there. But here's the deal. The problem is
Speaker 5: with the Bengals, you need to hire an experienced coach. Sure,
Speaker 5: you picked Zach Taylor off the staff of Sean McVay
Speaker 5: in LA with the Rams, but he was nothing more
Speaker 5: than a quarterback coach. He wasn't even a coordinator, right,
Speaker 5: so he basically learning is learning his skill on the
Speaker 5: job training with the Cincinnati Bengals. You know, the guys
Speaker 5: that really and truly were coaches who had success on
Speaker 5: this team were who, Okay, Forrest greg I mean, the
Speaker 5: guy was tough, had coaching background. The guys who were coaches,
Speaker 5: the guys coaching wise, guys who are coaching experience, you know,
Speaker 5: not guys who are neophytes who had no idea you
Speaker 5: know what to do. I mean, I give Marvin Lewis credit.
Speaker 5: He did well. Why he was a defensive coordinator at least,
Speaker 5: and he had success. He did, you know, go to
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. But he had some success.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what coach.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one coach that really hurt his legacy
Speaker 1: as a head coach and experienced coach was Dick lebou
Speaker 1: when he came from Pittsburgh and became the head coach
Speaker 1: here was that was a terrible tarnishing of a great
Speaker 1: man's career because.
Speaker 5: No, but he went down to Tennessee became defensive coordinat
Speaker 5: He did well there as well. Was a heck of
Speaker 5: a US defensive geis he really was. But I'm looking
Speaker 5: at coaches overall. I'm seeing, you know, what's happening, the
Speaker 5: floundering of coaches. And when they come in and they're announced,
Speaker 5: everybody goes crazy. Everybody's smacking their lips. And one of
Speaker 5: those coaches right now I'm pointing a finger on it
Speaker 5: is West Miller at the University of Cincinnati. I'm not
Speaker 5: that excited about what he's accomplished thus for he ran
Speaker 5: up ten wins on a preseason schedule. You get into
Speaker 5: that tough Big twelve conference, you know they can't compete.
Speaker 5: They're not competing. They can't compete. They look dismal against
Speaker 5: Kansas over the weekend. And I'll tell you something else.
Speaker 5: I'm going to throw something out here that's going to
Speaker 5: make your heads. Did I think it's time to bring
Speaker 5: Bob Huggins back. How do you like that? I think
Speaker 5: it's time to bring Huggins back?
Speaker 2: What all right?
Speaker 1: First ball, you've thrown down the gauntlet. Now I need
Speaker 1: a moment to think about it. So we'll take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll we'll talk about Andy's plan to
Speaker 1: save the University of Cincinnati hoops team, and it involves hugs,
Speaker 1: Hugs Baby, Hold on a second more of than nightcap
Speaker 1: just ahead on seven hundred WLW kick. In this conversation,
Speaker 1: he suggested that Bob Huggins should return as UC's had
Speaker 1: basketball coach.
Speaker 2: You're your reasoning in your rationale, Andy.
Speaker 7: Well, quite obvious.
Speaker 5: I mean the guys that seven hundred plus wins, so
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame coach hasn't lost as a coach. He's
Speaker 5: built winning programs at Kansas State, built him at the
Speaker 5: University of Cincinnati, West Virginia. I mean, he's won wherever
Speaker 5: he's been at. His problem was not the coaching aspect,
Speaker 5: his personal life. Now he's been out now close to
Speaker 5: two years, going on two years. Certainly I believe he's
Speaker 5: put down the bottle. I think he's dried out. I
Speaker 5: think he's somewhat learned his lesson. He realizes he probably
Speaker 5: missus the sport. I still think he's in an age
Speaker 5: right now, and I don't even like to bring up
Speaker 5: the term age because I think Anybody who has their
Speaker 5: wits about them, who has love for what they do,
Speaker 5: can do it. Bill Belichick will coach again in the
Speaker 5: National Football League, and he's pushing seventy three, So I
Speaker 5: got to believe that he's ready, willing. Abel will be
Speaker 5: open with open arms here, welcome with open arms at
Speaker 5: the University of Cincinnati. I think he could do more
Speaker 5: than West Milica ever accomplished it.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you know what keeps Bill Belichick young
Speaker 1: at seventy three, twenty four year old? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: twenty four year old girlfriend. That'll definitely ask Marty Brenneman
Speaker 1: about that. Just find some young honey, some younger honey,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's like the fountain of life, because
Speaker 1: you better be ready when they're ready.
Speaker 2: By gosh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Marty Brendan's name up because he he has one too.
Speaker 1: No, he's got a young wife, though much younger than Amanda. Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the fountain of youth right there is
Speaker 1: Your wife.
Speaker 5: Is and my wife is nine years younger than me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's about the way Christ two point zero and
Speaker 1: i Aret and and basically people call me a cradle robber.
Speaker 1: And she says no, I'm a grave robber.
Speaker 7: I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 5: No, But I think that I think Bob Huggins will
Speaker 5: do one thing that Wes Miller will never do. I
Speaker 5: think he'll rally the alums, rally the troops, get the
Speaker 5: fans in there and pack them. And more than that.
Speaker 5: You know, in this day and age, when you recruit
Speaker 5: a player, they don't care about if you're on TV,
Speaker 5: what schedule you play? Am I going to start? What's
Speaker 5: my check? How much am I going to make? And
Speaker 5: I think by Huggins rallying the troops, they'll have that
Speaker 5: nil money and they'll be able to get some big
Speaker 5: time players and pay him to come to the University
Speaker 5: of Cincinnati was the only where they did.
Speaker 1: What was the biggest knock on Bob Huggins as a
Speaker 1: coach and recruiter. He did not graduate his players under
Speaker 1: the ncua A rules of what's a graduated player and
Speaker 1: it had to be a four year senior and all
Speaker 1: this he had. He had tons of transis as far today.
Speaker 5: The university knocked them on that the press. He got
Speaker 5: in trouble. That's how he lost his job. He got
Speaker 5: in trouble. He was always someone off the court problem.
Speaker 5: He never ever was criticized his coaching ability.
Speaker 7: Recruiting ability.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there were people in the beginning his first year
Speaker 5: here when he brought in the junior college players. Oh,
Speaker 5: look what he's doing junior And then you know what
Speaker 5: everybody did. Then Xavier started doing it. They were bringing
Speaker 5: into coast.
Speaker 11: It to be.
Speaker 5: It was ingenius. It was you know. May he rest
Speaker 5: in peace. Herb Jones was a junior college player, Terry
Speaker 5: Nelson's junior college player. Thro all these junior college players
Speaker 5: in here, and he was ripped for it, and then
Speaker 5: everybody followed suit immediate.
Speaker 2: Here's another.
Speaker 1: Here's more gris for the middle of your argument of
Speaker 1: bringing Hugs back, it would seem in this day and age,
Speaker 1: with the transfer of portal and the nil Huggs will
Speaker 1: be a perfect replacement.
Speaker 5: I agree with you. I mean he would, right. I
Speaker 5: didn't throw this out.
Speaker 2: Because because now it's all out in the open, right.
Speaker 5: But I didn't throw it out to destroy west Miller
Speaker 5: because I personally I never met the man, and he's
Speaker 5: probably a very nice man. He went to North Carolina.
Speaker 5: He's got the good big blue hierarchy with you. William
Speaker 5: Dean Smith whatever it may. However, he's not Bob Huggins.
Speaker 5: He's not going to be a Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 5: He never will be, and I think that he cannot.
Speaker 5: You know, he'll always be in the shadow of a
Speaker 5: Bob Huggins. He can't do what Bob Huggins could do.
Speaker 5: Bob Huggins could take this team to the level or
Speaker 5: it should be.
Speaker 1: One of the things I love talking to you about, Andy,
Speaker 1: and the reasons I enjoy talking to you is that
Speaker 1: you often bring up other things outside of the realm
Speaker 1: of sports, you know, in the societal vein, like the
Speaker 1: fact that you just were talking to me a few
Speaker 1: moments ago before we got into this conversation about how
Speaker 1: nobody can read cursive anymore, and there is a desperate
Speaker 1: search for people who can read cursive. I could barely
Speaker 1: write cursive, even though I was taught to in school,
Speaker 1: which they don't even teach it anymore in school. That's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons nobody can read cursive, but I
Speaker 1: was taught it. I always had problems with the letters
Speaker 1: that had the really weird squiggles, like the capital g's
Speaker 1: and the capital z's and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But I can read cursive.
Speaker 1: Fine, So you say there are jobs open for people
Speaker 1: who need to read cursive.
Speaker 5: I just saw a new report today. I think it
Speaker 5: was on Good Morning America actually, and basically there's some
Speaker 5: documents of former presidents I don't know how many years
Speaker 5: back that are written in cursive and they can't be deciphered,
Speaker 5: and they want to hire people that know how to
Speaker 5: read cursive writing that could kind of decipher what was written.
Speaker 5: This is it's unbelievable.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: Is this is opposed to documents against I don't know, Well.
Speaker 1: This is opposed to documents written by Joe Biden that
Speaker 1: are in crayon.
Speaker 2: People can read.
Speaker 5: Those, but well, he chiseled them on stone. I think
Speaker 5: I don't know what he.
Speaker 2: Chizzled them on the stone.
Speaker 7: I don't know what he did.
Speaker 1: So, no, you're right about the cursive thing. They stopped
Speaker 1: completely teaching cursive in schools, and that's one of the
Speaker 1: things that are argued about as far as the fall
Speaker 1: of academia in the United States, and it's been a long,
Speaker 1: precipitous fall since the institution of the Federal Department of
Speaker 1: Education in nineteen seventy nine. We went from number one
Speaker 1: in the world. Then we're number twenty four and we've
Speaker 1: spent all this money. We had this big bureaucracy federally
Speaker 1: and it's just gone straight down the crapper. And part
Speaker 1: of it in clue the lack of teaching of cursive
Speaker 1: and the insistence that students learn how to read and
Speaker 1: write cursive. And it's just because it's hard and they
Speaker 1: don't want to challenge the students, students who are having
Speaker 1: a hard time putting two and two together. Literally, it's
Speaker 1: just too difficult to make them learn how to write
Speaker 1: and read cursive language.
Speaker 5: What do you think, Well, here's a deal with cursive
Speaker 5: number one. I think they've eliminated with all. Some schools
Speaker 5: are bringing it back now. I think they eliminated. It's
Speaker 5: reply because when you do so much work on a
Speaker 5: laptop or regular this top computer is non cursive. That's
Speaker 5: the reason why. And if they put it in cursive,
Speaker 5: obviously people or youngers, the younger generation, you can't read it.
Speaker 7: Then.
Speaker 5: I used to read incursive. It's like a foreign language.
Speaker 5: But I was reading some information about the benefits of
Speaker 5: cursive writing. They say it trains the brain to learn
Speaker 5: functional specialization, it improves memory, it improves fine motor skills,
Speaker 5: meaning that's students who have illigible print often have legible
Speaker 5: cursive handwriting. It's unbelievable, and obviously it's useful for us
Speaker 5: in later life. Look, I'm going to say something that
Speaker 5: probably no one ever does anymore. You want to sign
Speaker 5: a check you probably sign it in cursive writing. Although
Speaker 5: I don't think many people use check books anymore. You know,
Speaker 5: they do a vemo whatever. Well, except everything is done electronically.
Speaker 5: I mean they don't. They don't even have a checkbook.
Speaker 2: That's the thing that I am proficient in.
Speaker 1: I am proficient in cursive in signing my name, I
Speaker 1: got that. But the rest of the time you're mostly
Speaker 1: going to get block printing for me, because I'm a blockhead.
Speaker 12: I guess.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: No, don't say that, but I think that. I think
Speaker 5: it's important that right now, I like to find out
Speaker 5: if there are jobs available about reading cursive because I
Speaker 5: know I.
Speaker 4: Could read curs it.
Speaker 2: I read, I can read it all day.
Speaker 5: About that. I never thought of the fact that if
Speaker 5: you're not teaching it, there's a real good opportunity, real
Speaker 5: good chance that people won't be able.
Speaker 6: To read it.
Speaker 8: You never thought that they can't. You never thought about
Speaker 8: that really apparently no, I mean nobody at the Department
Speaker 8: of Education did either. Right, Yeah, So, I mean, what
Speaker 8: do you look for next week in the playoffs. Let's
Speaker 8: a real quick Well, we got a couple of minutes here.
Speaker 5: Uh, do the do the Bills Baltimore?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do the Bills survive at home? The Bill survive at home?
Speaker 1: Baltimore is better.
Speaker 5: I love Baltimore, I love I love Lamar Jackson. I
Speaker 5: I just wish him someone who But I just hate
Speaker 5: when the media says he can't win the big game.
Speaker 5: I mean, I understand, the position of quarterback is everything.
Speaker 5: You know, you win, it's on him. You lose, it's
Speaker 5: because of him. I mean, and you know as you go,
Speaker 5: so goes to quarterback, that's it. But you know, to
Speaker 5: put that kind of pressure on a guy like that
Speaker 5: and what he's accomplished, I just don't think it's fair. Look,
Speaker 5: if they lose, the headline is not going to be
Speaker 5: so much Buffalo wins.
Speaker 7: Here we go again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, the lion The lions devour the rams, just
Speaker 1: like in nature.
Speaker 7: Right, It's gonna be a good game.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean the Lion's obviously not in
Speaker 5: full strength. I have been full strength for several weeks.
Speaker 5: But it could be one heck of the game. I
Speaker 5: just you know the Rams, when you you're in the
Speaker 5: you're in the playoffs, so you get a little bit
Speaker 5: of a momentum and you get the push. And the
Speaker 5: Rams got it, and they got it last night. Boy,
Speaker 5: I tell you what, they could be tough. Matthew Stavord's tough.
Speaker 5: I mean, and you have the storyline over there, I
Speaker 5: mean Golf, Gad and Stafford. I mean, it's gonna be
Speaker 5: a great game to me, you know, I think I'm
Speaker 5: like the entire America is through. They all want to
Speaker 5: see the Detroit Lions win. They've become like the new
Speaker 5: America's team. So I'm pulling for the Lions. It's more
Speaker 5: of a heart overhead move. But I want the Lions
Speaker 5: to win. I think they can't.
Speaker 2: Oh, I believe they can. And uh, you think the
Speaker 2: Bengals will win?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know what, they haven't won in the lottery, to
Speaker 5: have the won in the draft, to have a one
Speaker 5: on the field. I honestly, you know when in the
Speaker 5: years past, when I when I was at the big one,
Speaker 5: when they had, like, you know, the lost years of
Speaker 5: the nineties early two thousand.
Speaker 7: Again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't really care, you know, Sure I do.
Speaker 5: A couple of the guys, the team and.
Speaker 7: The vultures of the world.
Speaker 5: You know, he was a Freid he still is and
Speaker 5: Tom Tinkles, all those guys, but I didn't.
Speaker 7: Take it to heart.
Speaker 5: I take it to heart now with Joe Burrow, I
Speaker 5: feel for the guy, you know, and Jamar Chase, I
Speaker 5: just feel for the bo's so good.
Speaker 1: Those guys do not They don't deserve it. They don't
Speaker 1: deserve it. Andy, we deserve more time. But it's it's
Speaker 1: up now, So thank you very much for filling it.
Speaker 5: Thank you all right, right, thank you.
Speaker 1: God bless Remember, folks, you can't spell Furman without f you.
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Speaker 1: It is the Night Camp on this too day evening
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLWGJ Dubbs at your service and Dave
Speaker 1: Hatter joins us for this half hour segment Tech Talk,
Speaker 1: whatever scary stuff out there in the world of the
Speaker 1: Internet of Things and the one that sadly we well,
Speaker 1: sadly for me because I'm a dinosaur. Dave loves it
Speaker 1: because this is what he does, and he's trying to
Speaker 1: beat the bad guys all the time, writing code and
Speaker 1: such and alerting you and me to the things we
Speaker 1: should be wary of in cyberspace. And I tell you what, Dave,
Speaker 1: let's start with some small bean stuff, but it could
Speaker 1: be big beans for anybody who's affected. I don't know
Speaker 1: how often I have seen someone at the bar when
Speaker 1: I'm working at a restaurant or just killing time, literally
Speaker 1: killing time, saying candy Crush. Well, here's the danger in
Speaker 1: candy Crush said, I'm just playing a game. How how
Speaker 1: harmful could that be other than making your mind total mush?
Speaker 1: But the headline is Candy Crush, Tender my Fitness Pal,
Speaker 1: which I don't know what that is, and I don't
Speaker 1: use Tender because my wife would find out, and Candy
Speaker 1: Crush just as I'm not into it. But the thousands
Speaker 1: of apps that you've got on your iPhone or on
Speaker 1: your Android that are hijacked to spy on your exact
Speaker 1: location being tracked.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's talk about that, that element of candy crush,
Speaker 2: if you will for a moment.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love too, Garrit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: First off, Happy new Year to you and all your listeners.
Speaker 6: And you know, maybe maybe for these segments we ought
Speaker 6: to call it Scary Jeff and Doomsday Days.
Speaker 1: No, wait, that's it. That's it from now on. Write
Speaker 1: that down Scary Jeff and Doomsday Dave and Dark Talk segment.
Speaker 1: I love that, bringing me to do You know, usually
Speaker 1: I pride myself in branding the segments on my show,
Speaker 1: but you have just usurped me as a branding genius
Speaker 1: with that, Dave Hatter.
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: So Wire did this story and you know this is
Speaker 6: the kind of thing so you mintioned it before Gary Jeff.
Speaker 6: Just so what it's worth. This is what I do
Speaker 6: for a living, you know, and in trust, we're trying
Speaker 6: to protect businesses and their assets from the ever increasing
Speaker 6: frequency and impact of devastating cyber attacks, amongst other things. Right,
Speaker 6: so you know I'm working in this deal every day.
Speaker 6: I'm paying attention to this stuff all the time because
Speaker 6: I care about it for our customers. I care about
Speaker 6: it for myself and my family and my friends, and
Speaker 6: I care about it for our society. A guy I'm
Speaker 6: a big fan of, a guy named Niko Hapenden, he's
Speaker 6: a well known and cybersecurity expert, gave a Ted talk
Speaker 6: where he's standing in front of a large screen that says,
Speaker 6: we're no longer protecting computers, We're protecting society. And because
Speaker 6: everything is digital, and because everything is interconnected, and because
Speaker 6: our supply chain is all interconnected and relies on this stuff,
Speaker 6: it's really true. So when people say to me, oh,
Speaker 6: I got nothing to hide, and why do I care
Speaker 6: if these apps are collecting data? I totally understand why
Speaker 6: people feel that way. And I think perhaps even if
Speaker 6: you let me, you know, have thirty minutes of your
Speaker 6: time to show you all of these things and explain it,
Speaker 6: some people are still going to say, yeah, I just
Speaker 6: don't care, it's not relevant to me. But the real issue,
Speaker 6: I think, Gary Jeff, is that most people don't really
Speaker 6: understand how invasive these devices and these apps are that
Speaker 6: they're installing and putting in their house and so forth
Speaker 6: their workplace, and how this data can eventually be used
Speaker 6: against them. So this again Wired story Repidable outlet, they're
Speaker 6: pointing out how when you download these apps to your phone.
Speaker 6: And one of the reasons why companies love apps is
Speaker 6: because they can collect enormous amounts of data. I encourage
Speaker 6: people go to the Apple App Store. A couple of
Speaker 6: years ago, Apple rolled out this Apple App Tracking Transparency
Speaker 6: framework where you, as a developer that wants to distribute
Speaker 6: apps to Apple devices, must disclose the information you want
Speaker 6: to collect. So they have something that kind of looks
Speaker 6: like a nutrition label on the side of a can
Speaker 6: at a Kroger store, okay, and it tells you what
Speaker 6: is being collected by given apps when you go to
Speaker 6: their apples, go to the app Store, and you go
Speaker 6: to download an app, you.
Speaker 2: Can look at this.
Speaker 6: I don't think most people do. I don't think most
Speaker 6: people are even aware of this is a thing, but
Speaker 6: it can be really insightful because you can look at
Speaker 6: privacy family apps like Proton, which I use for email.
Speaker 6: It collects virtually nothing. And then you can look at
Speaker 6: privacy unfriendly apps or what I would describe as CCP
Speaker 6: spyware like TikTok or Tamu in your pocket and it's
Speaker 6: collecting everything. I mean, I think most people if they
Speaker 6: look at the list of things that are being collected
Speaker 6: and then really put some thought into it. And one
Speaker 6: of the things that this Wired article is pointing out
Speaker 6: is common apps, right, Candy Crush, it's a game tender,
Speaker 6: it's a dating my Fitness Pal, it's an app designed
Speaker 6: to help you track and manage your fitness. Right. These
Speaker 6: are not designed as spyware per se, and there's no
Speaker 6: one making any allegations that these companies are necessary being
Speaker 6: anything that ferries. But everyone needs to understand these apps
Speaker 6: are free because you are their product, not their customer.
Speaker 6: They're monetizing your data. They're collecting data for their own
Speaker 6: internal uses. They're collecting data to try to sell you stuff.
Speaker 6: It's when that data gets sold, So pick a reputable
Speaker 6: company if they're selling your data. And many of them,
Speaker 6: if not most of them, are to data brokers, which
Speaker 6: gets us to Gravity Analytics, a data broker that was
Speaker 6: recently hacked. They specialize in location data. Well, now your
Speaker 6: data everywhere you go all the you know, is it
Speaker 6: helpful to you perhaps as let's say you're in a
Speaker 6: domestic violence situation that your ex could potentially see everywhere
Speaker 6: that you go. Probably not. Is it helpful to you
Speaker 6: when you go to get a job, for your prospective
Speaker 6: employer to basically see that you're going to places that
Speaker 6: they might not approve of and don't hire you as
Speaker 6: a result.
Speaker 7: Probably not.
Speaker 6: Are these realistic examples of how this data could be used?
Speaker 7: Yes? They are.
Speaker 6: So you know, the point that Wired is trying to
Speaker 6: make is by using these apps, which seem innocuous, you
Speaker 6: are potentially giving up information which has then sold or
Speaker 6: leaked and comes back to buy two ways that you
Speaker 6: might not understand. And if you did, you'd stop using
Speaker 6: these things.
Speaker 2: Well, just playing Tandy crush Dave. Yeah, let's move on here.
Speaker 1: You mentioned just before we started this evening and asked
Speaker 1: me if i'd seen the interview with Christopher ray on
Speaker 1: sixty minutes this past Sunday where he said the same
Speaker 1: things that you and I have been talking about for
Speaker 1: four years, but finally saying it out loud, about the
Speaker 1: danger of the threat from communist China. Any Yeah, you
Speaker 1: want to elaborate that a little bit just for a moment.
Speaker 6: I do, because it's it's really disturbing stuff. And while
Speaker 6: there's not much each one of us can do as
Speaker 6: an individual, there are things we can do to, you know,
Speaker 6: try to secure our data, reduce our digital footprint, stop
Speaker 6: using apps and platforms that are coming from China where
Speaker 6: they have access to your data and propagandize you. But
Speaker 6: you know what Director Ray has pointed out, and you know,
Speaker 6: I follow what the FBI is putting out a lot
Speaker 6: because it's important to our business intrust and our customers,
Speaker 6: and it's you know, it's important to me trying to
Speaker 6: understand where are the risks? And you know what, how
Speaker 6: can I use what little influence I have to try
Speaker 6: to get people to take this stuff seriously? And you know,
Speaker 6: I've seen him say that he believes, based on their research,
Speaker 6: that China has like a fifty to one advantage in
Speaker 6: terms of their offensive hackers versus our defensive people. So
Speaker 6: think about that fifty to one. Obviously, no one really
Speaker 6: knows for sure. But the point is, and this is
Speaker 6: all well documented. They have made huge investments and training
Speaker 6: people to have you know, extensive advanced cyber skills. They're
Speaker 6: deploying those people to cause havoc all around the world.
Speaker 6: They're stealing trade secrets, they're stealing military secrets. It's no
Speaker 6: coincidence that all of their new military gear looks exactly
Speaker 6: like ours. They're stealing this stuff, right, It's a lot
Speaker 6: cheaper to break into someone's network and steal some secrets
Speaker 6: that saved you years and billions of dollars in research
Speaker 6: than to do it yourself. Right, So it's it's there.
Speaker 6: We're being attacked, I would argue Gary, Jeff honestly, you know,
Speaker 6: we're in a cold war with the Chinese Communist Party,
Speaker 6: have been for a long time, and you know, more
Speaker 6: high profile people are increasingly raising the alarm about this.
Speaker 6: And you know, he went on sixty Minutes this last
Speaker 6: week and basically kind of put it all out there.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm quoting to you from a Stars and
Speaker 6: Stripes article referencing that sixty minutes interview. I encourage everyone,
Speaker 6: Jill watsinon themselves. China cyber program has already infiltrated critically
Speaker 6: American infrastructure and it's poised to quote Greek havoc unquote,
Speaker 6: at a whim, the outgoing FBI director told sixty Minutes
Speaker 6: during the interview with Scott Kelley. Ray said Beijing can
Speaker 6: leverage these programs to target water treatment plants, the electrical grid,
Speaker 6: natural gas pipelines, telecommunications of other systems. China has already
Speaker 6: pre positioned malware to quote lay and wait on those
Speaker 6: networks unquote, where it can quote inflict real world harm
Speaker 6: at a time and place of their achieving unquote. And
Speaker 6: you know, we've seen these stories come out recently about
Speaker 6: now virtually every major telecom network in the country has
Speaker 6: been infiltrated.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: The our security agencies have attributed that to the Chinese
Speaker 6: Communist Party. You know, and when people say, well, what
Speaker 6: does that mean, well, think about this garriage, Jeff. For years,
Speaker 6: the FBI in particular has railed against end to end
Speaker 6: encryption because it makes it very difficult for them to
Speaker 6: get information they need on law enforcement. They recently come
Speaker 6: out and said, because of the PRC infiltration in these networks,
Speaker 6: that everyone should switch to end to end and crypt
Speaker 6: the apps like signal. So they've done a whole one
Speaker 6: eighty on this thing because this infiltration is so severe,
Speaker 6: not dimension all these telecom networks make it possible for
Speaker 6: all of these systems to talk to one another. So
Speaker 6: if you could knock out the teletom network, you would
Speaker 6: probably take down the electrical grid and gas powered transmission
Speaker 6: plants and all this other stuff because they would have
Speaker 6: no way to communicate anymore. So it's a serious problem.
Speaker 6: And you know the answer is awareness and now pressuring
Speaker 6: your officials at every level to take this seriously and
Speaker 6: make the investments we need to stop this before catastrophally happens.
Speaker 6: And again, don't take my word for it. See what
Speaker 6: your own government say.
Speaker 1: You mentioned and he mentioned malware already in place, laying
Speaker 1: in weight. How do you find that dormant malware before
Speaker 1: it it inflicts the damage.
Speaker 6: Well, that's an excellent question, and it can be really
Speaker 6: tricky depending on what it is and where it's implanet.
Speaker 7: Know.
Speaker 6: One of the concerns that people like me have raised
Speaker 6: for a long time, and one of the reasons why
Speaker 6: I'm the big proponent of on shoring manufacturing, especially in electronics,
Speaker 6: is so that you're not getting products that have chips
Speaker 6: in them or software and then or both to have
Speaker 6: back doors and logic bombs. You know. Logic bomb is
Speaker 6: sort of an old school name for somewhere deep down
Speaker 6: inside my code, I've put something bad and either you know,
Speaker 6: I can trigger it myself, or I could set some sort.
Speaker 2: Of future date.
Speaker 6: At this date and time, this thing is going to happen.
Speaker 6: And if you're going to delete all the files on
Speaker 6: the server, or ecrypt all the files or whatever it's designed.
Speaker 1: To do, the kind of like the hypnotists and says, no,
Speaker 1: when I snap my fingers, you're going to remember this
Speaker 1: and you're going to do this.
Speaker 2: Kind of like that.
Speaker 6: That's a good analogy. And you know, when we're buying
Speaker 6: all this equipment. Now, you know, we have banned the
Speaker 6: whole categories of equipment like Huawei, you know, in the
Speaker 6: telecom network, but there's there's tons and tons of the
Speaker 6: stuff out there. TP Link Router recently come under fire.
Speaker 6: There's tons and tons of this stuff out there. Unless
Speaker 6: you go through every line of source code, you can't
Speaker 6: know for sure. So it's hard. And part of the garage,
Speaker 6: Jeff is having people trained to look for the stuff,
Speaker 6: having people trained to know how to remediate it and
Speaker 6: mitigate it when you find it, and you know, having
Speaker 6: the training, the resources, the money to pay people to
Speaker 6: do this before this all goes bad. And you know,
Speaker 6: the thing that's the most scary to me is not
Speaker 6: that this has happened, and you know we're probably doing
Speaker 6: it to them as well. You know, hopefully we are
Speaker 6: for mutually assured destruction, just like you know the nuclear
Speaker 6: persons exactly. But the thing that's the most scary to
Speaker 6: me is a guy who spent twenty five years building
Speaker 6: custom software for businesses. You know what, sometimes software doesn't
Speaker 6: work the way you expect, And could you have some
Speaker 6: sort of logic bomb in there and you don't ever
Speaker 6: trigger it, but something goes wrong and it somehow goes
Speaker 6: off on its own. Yes, you know, you could bring
Speaker 6: these systems down without intentionally doing it because of some mistake.
Speaker 6: Look at what happened with CrowdStrike. CrowdStrike is a company
Speaker 6: that makes software designed to help businesses protect their confidentiality,
Speaker 6: integrity and availability of their information and their systems. So
Speaker 6: they actually created a denial of service attack essentially because
Speaker 6: they rolled out software that had some bugs in it
Speaker 6: and brought down roughly ten million Windows based computers. So
Speaker 6: when you say this sounds far fetched and crazy, day, Well,
Speaker 6: there's a real world example of a trusted company in
Speaker 6: the business trying to help you protect your systems to
Speaker 6: actually create a denial of service attack. So you know,
Speaker 6: if they're in there and they've planted this malware, logic bomb,
Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it, could it somehow go
Speaker 6: wrong without it being intensely treated. Yes, it could. So
Speaker 6: to me, I hate to always be the tenfoil hat guide.
Speaker 6: But it's scary stuff and we have got to get
Speaker 6: really really serious about taking this head on, making the investments.
Speaker 6: You know, it's funny we see to have billions of
Speaker 6: dollars to send all into the world, including the countries
Speaker 6: that hate us, but nothing for our own infrastructure and
Speaker 6: for solving problems like this.
Speaker 1: Well, Dave, Dave, they passed an infrastructure bill that did
Speaker 1: not address this one iota.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because we're not taking it seriously, and we really
Speaker 6: need to get serious about addressing this before task if
Speaker 6: it happens, whether it's intentional or or it happens unintentionally
Speaker 6: because of the infiltration in these networks.
Speaker 1: Talking with Dave Hadder talking with Dave Hader in the Nightcap.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt, Dave. I want to get one
Speaker 1: more story in before we're done, and I've got about
Speaker 1: two minutes for this, so in fact, will flip the
Speaker 1: virtual coin doomsday. Dave, do you want to talk about
Speaker 1: the way moos self driving nightmare taxi ride or do
Speaker 1: you want to talk about Apple having to pay almost
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars for Siri listening to your private
Speaker 1: conversations in your own home, which one.
Speaker 6: Let's let's hit to Apple real quick, all right, because
Speaker 6: when people have said for years, I think my phone
Speaker 6: is listening to me. And it's not just your phone,
Speaker 6: it's any Internet of things, you know, so called smart
Speaker 6: quote unquote device that has a microphone in it.
Speaker 7: If it's voice activated.
Speaker 6: It must be listening to you, right. It has to
Speaker 6: be listening to you for you to say the wake word,
Speaker 6: the hot word, the wake up phrase, whatever for it
Speaker 6: to engage. The real question is how tight is the
Speaker 6: window for what it will engage on? And then what
Speaker 6: happens to the recordings of whatever you've been captured saying?
Speaker 6: And a per this lawsuit, it's a ninety five million
Speaker 6: dollars settlement, which is laughable. You know, I think they
Speaker 6: make that much money in like an hour. You know,
Speaker 6: we're exactly about twenty dollars per person in the class
Speaker 6: action lawsuits. So that's what they value your privacy yet,
Speaker 6: and you know Android is under some similar types of allegations.
Speaker 6: But the bottom line is these things have to listen
Speaker 6: to you. The question is what happens to you? Know again,
Speaker 6: how often they activate? There was an interesting study several
Speaker 6: years ago where they put a bunch of devices in
Speaker 6: a room, turn the TV on and then monitor how
Speaker 6: often they activated. I think if most people saw that,
Speaker 6: they would be shocked. And how loosely these things stick
Speaker 6: to the wake phrase. And I mean this just proves
Speaker 6: that for some time now again, you know, there's been
Speaker 6: arguments that Facebook and other companies are listening and serving
Speaker 6: up ads and so forth. Clearly it's a problem, and
Speaker 6: folks need to understand if you're having a sensitive conversation
Speaker 6: in an intimate situation or whatever, if you have any
Speaker 6: sort of voice enabled devices nearby, they're possibly listening to you,
Speaker 6: and that whatever it's recording may or may not be kept,
Speaker 6: and it may or may not be kept forever. So
Speaker 6: you should take that into account. When you have these
Speaker 6: devices nearby and you know nothing else, get your fair
Speaker 6: day cage bag for your phone. You can put it
Speaker 6: in and that'll just cut off everything.
Speaker 1: All right, So one word answer from you, Dave Hatter,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get you in trouble here,
Speaker 1: but Mark Mark Zuckerberg and his recent reversals of policy
Speaker 1: at Meta and Facebook.
Speaker 2: Do you believe him? Do you trust him? Yes?
Speaker 4: Or no?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: All right, that's all we need answer. But no, do
Speaker 1: not trust. Do not trust a man with a perm
Speaker 1: that looks that bad. I always say Doomsday Dave Scary
Speaker 1: Jeff with Doomsday Dave on this Tuesday Nightcap. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much, and happy New Year to you, my friend.
Speaker 1: I look forward to many, many more entertaining and revealing
Speaker 1: conversations in the year ahead, until until the technology decides
Speaker 1: to cut us off.
Speaker 2: All right, all right man, thanks so much.
Speaker 1: Dave Hatter with us on the Nightcap and will continue
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Speaker 1: As we continue this Tuesday night Cap on seven hundred
Speaker 1: w LW. The conversation continues, this time with an old
Speaker 1: friend that I haven't had the chance of, haven't taken
Speaker 1: the time to be more honest to talk to until
Speaker 1: recently in the New Year. This is a guy who
Speaker 1: I was introduced to actually by twenty nine, Tracy Jones,
Speaker 1: good friend of his. He runs a well I'll let
Speaker 1: him tell you about his business, his online business. But
Speaker 1: his dad was I believe his dad was a firefighter.
Speaker 1: So maybe some insights into fighting fires and preparedness in
Speaker 1: the wake of the terrible wildfires that have victimized so
Speaker 1: many of Southern California's citizens and palisades in Malibu and
Speaker 1: the like. Jim Lewis, Welcome to the Nightcap. It's great
Speaker 1: to have you on the air with me in Happy
Speaker 1: New Year, my friend.
Speaker 10: Hey, Happy New Year to you too, Gary, Jeff, It's
Speaker 10: great to be on with you. Yeah, it's these fires.
Speaker 10: It's unbelievable. There's over there's fourteen thousand homes and buildings
Speaker 10: completely destroyed. Yeah, uh ahead, uh, it's horrible. Yeah, and
Speaker 10: you know my my my father. He had he was
Speaker 10: a Cincinnati fireman and he had other businesses.
Speaker 2: When when when I.
Speaker 10: Was a kid, and he would but he would work
Speaker 10: one one out of three days he was the fire department.
Speaker 2: And I would see him come home.
Speaker 10: Sometimes he'd be like in his uniform because I never
Speaker 10: saw him in his uniform because he would always go
Speaker 10: straight from the firehouse to his his companies. Uh the
Speaker 10: you know, he'd keep working. But I would see him
Speaker 10: in his uniform and he was inspecting fire hydrants. The
Speaker 10: city of Cincinnati, they have to inspect all those fire hydrants.
Speaker 10: They go there with tools, they crack them open. They
Speaker 10: make sure you're able to access the fire hydrant. You
Speaker 10: can't just leave these things alone, I mean they'll lock up.
Speaker 10: They gotta have They check the pressure, make sure water's there,
Speaker 10: so if there's a fire and they're needed, boom, they're
Speaker 10: able to tap into it and put the fire out.
Speaker 1: The main thing, the main thing is to make sure
Speaker 1: there's water in the fire hydrant because otherwise they're just a.
Speaker 2: Place for dogs to lift their leg. So please continue.
Speaker 10: Exactly well, listen to this audio.
Speaker 2: This is Kristen Crowley.
Speaker 10: She's the chief, the fire chief for Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Listen to this, Okay, Thanktally.
Speaker 20: I believe the anchors that wanted to ask a question
Speaker 20: comments we do. If you could please ask.
Speaker 3: Her regarding the Times article that came out that the
Speaker 3: Santana's reservoir was close to repairs and it was empty,
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventeen million gallons of.
Speaker 20: Water could have been used in this fight. The question
Speaker 20: is about the Santa.
Speaker 1: Emails reservoir being empty.
Speaker 5: There's been a lot of questions.
Speaker 20: So my stanceless is when a firefurter comes up to
Speaker 20: a hydrant, we expect there's going to be water. We
Speaker 20: don't control the water supply. Our firefetterers are there to
Speaker 20: protect lives and property and it make sure that we're
Speaker 20: properly trained in a quick that's my position on this.
Speaker 20: So if there's no water, I don't know how the
Speaker 20: water gets to the hybrants. Please defer that to DWT
Speaker 20: or whomever controls that part. But I can tell you
Speaker 20: the resiliency of our firefurters. If there's no water, they're
Speaker 20: going to go find water. They're going to figure out
Speaker 20: a way to do the best they can with what
Speaker 20: they've got in a very dynamic situation.
Speaker 10: Yeah, they're going to get buckets. That's the most ridiculous deflection.
Speaker 2: I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: Now before before she was, before she was fire chief
Speaker 1: in the LAFD, she was a deputy chief in charge
Speaker 1: of what inspections.
Speaker 10: Inspections correct, she was, she had she had two hundred
Speaker 10: people under her and she was in charge of inspections,
Speaker 10: inspections of buildings and fire hydrants. And then she'd be
Speaker 10: she gets elevated to the chief and she completely she
Speaker 10: just doesn't even drops the ball there.
Speaker 4: So it's like but she deflects it.
Speaker 2: She's like, I.
Speaker 10: Don't know how the water gets to the hydrants. We're
Speaker 10: not asking you that, but did you check the fire hydrants?
Speaker 10: And then if there's no water, she got to be
Speaker 10: clanging the bell and going berserk about you know, we
Speaker 10: need water to the fire hydrants.
Speaker 7: This is nothing new.
Speaker 10: They've been It's this is they drain the thing in
Speaker 10: February of twenty twenty four. So yeah, the whole reservoir
Speaker 10: they dumped it into the ocean. The whole thing's dry.
Speaker 10: There's there's aerial shots of the dry reservoir. It's it's
Speaker 10: completely dry, and.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's it's pathetic.
Speaker 1: Well, at least at least in Los Angeles. In the
Speaker 1: Fire department. In Los Angeles, they have been hiring people
Speaker 1: whether they're qualified or not. That's not the main point.
Speaker 1: The Germaine point is they're hiring people when they do
Speaker 1: hire people, and don't fire people for things like not
Speaker 1: getting the COVID JAB. When they hire people, they want
Speaker 1: to make sure they're hiring people who look like the
Speaker 1: people they may be serving, which is the most ridiculous
Speaker 1: thing in the world. I don't care if I'm in
Speaker 1: a fire and I need assistance from a firefighter. I
Speaker 1: don't care if he or she is white, black, lesbian, gay, straight,
Speaker 1: I don't care about anything. Can they do the job?
Speaker 1: And the DEI, the chief of DEI in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: in the fire department, who makes three hundred thousand plus
Speaker 1: a year, to make sure that they're firefighting force looks
Speaker 1: like the populations that they serve said famously, if if
Speaker 1: a firefighter wasn't wasn't able physically to bring a grown
Speaker 1: man out of a fire, then that man obviously was
Speaker 1: in the wrong place. Is there a right place to
Speaker 1: be when you're stuck in the middle of a fire emergency, gym.
Speaker 1: Tell me what the right place would be, lady, exactly.
Speaker 10: And the second thing they complain about behind the diversity,
Speaker 10: equity and inclusion is money.
Speaker 7: They want more money.
Speaker 10: It's like they're they're they're always complaining about money, but
Speaker 10: it's giving them more money is just giving an idiot
Speaker 10: more money. You're just making them a bigger idiot. They're
Speaker 10: they're they're derelict of their duty and giving them more money,
Speaker 10: that's you don't give them more money.
Speaker 1: They are they are they are a microcosm of the
Speaker 1: worst of our federal government. And this is the leftist policy.
Speaker 1: Is that and it's been this way for years. If
Speaker 1: kids aren't being educated properly, then the answer is, well,
Speaker 1: we need more money, it's all. And you throw more
Speaker 1: money at the problem, and the kids get dumber and
Speaker 1: dumber every year.
Speaker 10: And using your top you're exactly right, and that's really
Speaker 10: the once once if you solve the problem of the bureaucracy,
Speaker 10: when you start going.
Speaker 2: Down the rabbit hole, you just tapped on it. You
Speaker 2: went to the very bottom, like real quick.
Speaker 10: It's the education system there is that is such a
Speaker 10: difficult thing to repair and fix. That's going to take
Speaker 10: that's going to take decades because they've been working on
Speaker 10: it for decades to flip the whole thing, and you know,
Speaker 10: since the seventies, and now we're at this point where
Speaker 10: that's really the root of the problem because of what
Speaker 10: that system has produced, and we're dealing with it now.
Speaker 2: We've had it. That's what the problem is.
Speaker 1: We've had a leftist slide in our education system. And
Speaker 1: the data shows that the massive slide to the far
Speaker 1: left in academia began in the mid nineteen eighties. Now
Speaker 1: even centrists are disappearing according to this information I've got
Speaker 1: in front of me. I want to talk more about
Speaker 1: the fires and the absolute total incompetence of the people
Speaker 1: that are in charge of keeping the people of southern
Speaker 1: California safe, but I also want to I want to
Speaker 1: break and we'll do the next segment. I want you
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit, if you are comfortable with it,
Speaker 1: about your personal journey with cancer, because I think it's
Speaker 1: important to know that there are now more than at
Speaker 1: any time human history, ways to ascertain if you were
Speaker 1: not only at risk, but if you actually have cancer
Speaker 1: and don't know it, because that's the most crucial thing,
Speaker 1: and treating cancer is knowing it early enough you can
Speaker 1: get a jump start on it before it master sizes
Speaker 1: into stage four and it's spreading throughout your body. And
Speaker 1: some very important things from your own journey you have
Speaker 1: learned in this Jim, I want to impart that to
Speaker 1: the audience. So if you'll just sit back, take a break,
Speaker 1: you'll come back and talk about that with Jim Lewis tonight,
Speaker 1: a special guest on the Nightcap because he's a friend
Speaker 1: and he's got some really good information. If you're worried
Speaker 1: about or thinking about making sure you stay healthy, and
Speaker 1: you're worried about whether you may or may not have cancer,
Speaker 1: please stick around and we'll be right back on seven
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Speaker 1: You're talking to the plumber's best buddy, Jim Lewis, and
Speaker 1: my good friend and Jim, just real quickly, let's get
Speaker 1: a recap of where you've been over the last three
Speaker 1: four years and the odyssey you've been on with cancer.
Speaker 10: Sure, well, I discovered I have I had colon cancer
Speaker 10: in February of twenty twenty three, and it was it
Speaker 10: just hit me out of nowhere. My anthem required that
Speaker 10: we get a physical in twenty twenty two. So I
Speaker 10: had to get this physical in December twenty twenty two.
Speaker 10: Hadn't been to the doctor in you know, decades, and
Speaker 10: had to find a doctor. And then he's like, hey,
Speaker 10: I needed colonoscope and I kind of like, you know,
Speaker 10: just didn't look forward to doing that. And I actually
Speaker 10: canceled the first appointment. And you know, when when I
Speaker 10: was supposed to go and put it off and UH
Speaker 10: just didn't feel like it didn't feel like.
Speaker 2: I had cancer or anything. And uh, then I go
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 10: When when I initially got the colonosophy, they didn't know
Speaker 10: that I had UH stage four, but he said he
Speaker 10: thought it could be that he wasn't sure. I had
Speaker 10: to go to a specialist. Went to a specialist and
Speaker 10: uh discovered I had stage four uh colon cancer.
Speaker 2: So that was tough.
Speaker 10: And then I just I didn't ut. I didn't stick
Speaker 10: with the the the first doctor that I had that
Speaker 10: I went to, I did a bunch of research and
Speaker 10: called a bunch of people.
Speaker 2: And uh then.
Speaker 7: You know, through a lot.
Speaker 10: Of phone calls and a lot of talking to different people.
Speaker 10: I got hooked up with a guy that's incredible here
Speaker 10: in Cincinnati, doctor Earl Thompson.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable guy.
Speaker 10: I mean, this guy is if you have a cancer issue,
Speaker 10: if you can get to get him. Uh, he's he's
Speaker 10: really Uh.
Speaker 2: By all means, here's what I here's what I found.
Speaker 10: So I went, I went to him, I left the
Speaker 10: guy was with went to him, and then Domino started
Speaker 10: falling and uh. But the one thing I'll say is
Speaker 10: this looking back at this, like because when you you
Speaker 10: kind of like when you're when you first get hit
Speaker 10: with it, you're kind of you know, you're you're trying
Speaker 10: to you're like end up burning building and you're trying
Speaker 10: to get out and find a door. But once I
Speaker 10: started like looking at this and what I had been
Speaker 10: through three four five years before and got a really
Speaker 10: good view of this, I will say that one hundred
Speaker 10: percent I caused my cancer. And it was one hundred
Speaker 10: percent my fault. Now out of complete ignorance. I didn't
Speaker 10: do it on purpose, obviously, but there were three things
Speaker 10: I three reasons why this happened. The number one and
Speaker 10: the biggest one was not going to the doctor. So
Speaker 10: if I would have gotten a check up or gotten
Speaker 10: a colonoscopy five years earlier, which I should have done,
Speaker 10: this would.
Speaker 4: Have been prevented.
Speaker 2: That's number one.
Speaker 10: So not going to the doctor and not getting tested
Speaker 10: was number one. Number two is diet sugar. I've cut
Speaker 10: all that out and that was that I could. That's
Speaker 10: a super long topic there, but diet and then sedentary lifestyle.
Speaker 10: So those three things. The largest of the three is
Speaker 10: the testing. So I changed all three and then now
Speaker 10: I test every ninety days.
Speaker 7: And the big.
Speaker 10: Arbitrage here is the blood tests. So there's you can
Speaker 10: do there. They have these broad based blood panels that
Speaker 10: they can test for specific biomarkers in the blood that
Speaker 10: certain that cancers throw out into the bloodstream.
Speaker 2: So just like when someone.
Speaker 10: Goes to get a the blood test for prostate, so
Speaker 10: the check for your PSA, it's a prostate specific andigen
Speaker 10: it's a protein that the prostate throws out into the blood.
Speaker 10: They don't have to do the old rubber glove test
Speaker 10: RH right. They know if you're if you have an
Speaker 10: elevated PSA and it's HI, they they know, okay, we've
Speaker 10: got an issue.
Speaker 7: Here.
Speaker 10: So the for colon cancer. The the biomarker that that
Speaker 10: that correlates with mine was CEA. So we checked my
Speaker 10: CEA and that was forty eight point six. Oh and
Speaker 10: another yeah, forty eight point six. And another great guy,
Speaker 10: I mean cannot say enough great things about him is.
Speaker 2: Doctor William Barrett.
Speaker 7: Bill Barrett.
Speaker 10: He is phenomenal. He's you know, he's he's helped me
Speaker 10: out a lot. And you know, we we are blessed
Speaker 10: in Cincinnati that we have we can tap into people
Speaker 10: that this is one of the best cities to get
Speaker 10: cancer in.
Speaker 6: Uh, and it.
Speaker 10: Really is is phenomenal because the great thing about these
Speaker 10: guys like if they don't have the answer, they'll send
Speaker 10: you in the direction to go get it or they'll
Speaker 10: get it. Like they're they're just everyone I've encountered has
Speaker 10: been just phenomenal there. Ray Wilson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're dedicated. They are dedicated to this. But
Speaker 1: I didn't know that there was actually a blood panel. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, your insurance may not want to pay for
Speaker 1: this expanded blood test, but uh, it would behoove anyone
Speaker 1: who has to have a regular blood test for their
Speaker 1: physical every year to say to the doctor, can you
Speaker 1: please check my CEA level along with my PSA. They
Speaker 1: checked my PSA once a year and thankfully, right, it's
Speaker 1: been the C right.
Speaker 10: That's and that's a that's a fairly cheap one to
Speaker 10: add on. That's not expensive. It's just there there. Now
Speaker 10: when you go to look at like the Galleria test,
Speaker 10: I think they test for like fifty six different biomarkers.
Speaker 10: Now you're getting up the where insurance companies start to
Speaker 10: you know that you can get them done. You just
Speaker 10: have to pay for them yourselves. But but I think
Speaker 10: it's it's well worth that investment because you can and
Speaker 10: and again it's not that it's perfect. You may get
Speaker 10: a false positive, sure it may.
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know what I'll take.
Speaker 10: I'll take my fire alarm going off and there wasn't
Speaker 10: a fire. I just you know, I'll accept that, or
Speaker 10: like how many security systems the alarm goes off and
Speaker 10: nobody broke in the house. It's like for for there
Speaker 10: to because there could be a false positive.
Speaker 2: For that being.
Speaker 10: The reason not to take the test is, uh, I
Speaker 10: just don't get the logic in that.
Speaker 2: So good checked, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sugar, and.
Speaker 1: Yet move around, man, it's excellent advice for anybody on anything,
Speaker 1: jam and thanks for being here again tonight to share
Speaker 1: some of that with us of your own personal story.
Speaker 1: And I will remember the next time I have my
Speaker 1: blood drawn, which is this March, and I will ask
Speaker 1: my doctor can you check my CEA as well? Because
Speaker 1: I'm due free?
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I am so far cancer free. So twenty
Speaker 10: twenty three was a really tough year and that got
Speaker 10: through it.
Speaker 2: And I've had.
Speaker 10: Just thanks to a great team and Adam Rosean, He's
Speaker 10: another one. There's just I could go on and on
Speaker 10: with just the uh, the people here and but but
Speaker 10: the number one thing is take accountability and do everything
Speaker 10: you can do, because there's no question I caused this.
Speaker 10: It wasn't anything right, all right, I think I think, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, I got hey, I gotta go brother,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year.
Speaker 10: Okay, Hey, God bless.
Speaker 2: God, bless you.
Speaker 7: Pet.
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Speaker 1: Garry Jeff at your service and next Now. For many
Speaker 1: years I was a host of a show called Breakfast
Speaker 1: with the Beatles here locally, and I always love good
Speaker 1: Beatles' stories.
Speaker 2: I love stories about the British Invasion.
Speaker 1: Tonight an archived interview that I did last summer with
Speaker 1: a guy named Billy J. Kramer, and it was worthy
Speaker 1: of another listen, So let's do that now as we
Speaker 1: continue on seven hundred wl W.
Speaker 2: Did you never leave me?
Speaker 12: I'll be in blue.
Speaker 2: Don't you ever leave me?
Speaker 13: I'm so in love with you?
Speaker 5: They would be so lovely.
Speaker 7: Let's not why Holy Dave yell to me?
Speaker 1: And that was the first time many people heard Billy J.
Speaker 1: Kramer and the Dakotas. Yes, nineteen sixty three was it?
Speaker 7: Yeh?
Speaker 2: And he is back and he's still here. He's still
Speaker 2: doing what he loves to do.
Speaker 1: And I think that's so cool because I'm getting to
Speaker 1: do what I love to do, which is interview people
Speaker 1: like Billy J. Kramer, Gary Jeff Walker as we continue
Speaker 1: here on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: And I've looked forward to this.
Speaker 1: When our friend Jeff Perholtz, who's been working with you
Speaker 1: on your new album Billy, mentioned that you were going
Speaker 1: to be in town and we had a chance to
Speaker 1: do this, I was just like blown over Billy Kramer.
Speaker 2: Really, I got to interview Billy Kramer. Very very cool.
Speaker 1: This was the early stage of what became the British invasion.
Speaker 1: You were obviously way bigger in the UK than you
Speaker 1: were in the US, but you had hits here too,
Speaker 1: and you had the benefit of some pretty pretty prolific songwriters.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that in a moment. But how are you.
Speaker 12: I'm very well, thank you. I'm nice to be here.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What brings you to America this time? Bill?
Speaker 12: Well, I've lived in America for many years now, Okay,
Speaker 12: you know I lived in America for like thirty six
Speaker 12: thirty seven years.
Speaker 2: All right, So what brings you to town?
Speaker 7: Then?
Speaker 12: I came to town to work with Jeff Perholtz, the Holts,
Speaker 12: my friend Jeff Holts. That's what I came to town for.
Speaker 12: So how did you get hooked up with Jeff? I
Speaker 12: was doing a cruise last year, about a year ago,
Speaker 12: and they they linked me up.
Speaker 2: It's all right.
Speaker 12: They tied me over with Jeff and I came to
Speaker 12: Cincinnati and rehearsed for the cruise with Jeff yea a studio,
Speaker 12: and then we did a cruise together. And I was
Speaker 12: going to Abby Road to celebrate sixty years and show
Speaker 12: business on my eightieth birthday, and I got him like
Speaker 12: I have some fire with Jeff and his wife, Missy,
Speaker 12: and I invited them to come along to Abby Roll.
Speaker 2: They're wonderful people.
Speaker 1: I've known him for about twenty five years and actually
Speaker 1: hadn't seen him for about twenty years until we met
Speaker 1: in a parking lot for the first time in twenty years,
Speaker 1: and he just mentioned working with you, and I said, really,
Speaker 1: Billy J.
Speaker 2: Kramer, that's so cool. And I said, well, is there
Speaker 2: any chance, since he's going to be in town we
Speaker 2: could get together? And here we are. So it's coming
Speaker 2: on city. Sixty years since you first appeared on the
Speaker 2: Ed Sullivan Show. Sixty years on June seventh, June seventh,
Speaker 2: the year of the Great British Invasion. Yes, June seventh
Speaker 2: was when I was on The Sullivan Show. And it's
Speaker 2: come by very quick. What do you remember about that night? Specifically?
Speaker 12: I was very nervous, I remember, you know, funny enough,
Speaker 12: it's it's a bit scary to think that, you know,
Speaker 12: you know, you stand there in front of a camera
Speaker 12: and realize that there's going to be seventy million people looking.
Speaker 12: It's a bit of a scary thought. So I'll be
Speaker 12: honest with you. I I did the rehearsal Joe on
Speaker 12: the day and then I went back to the hotel
Speaker 12: and I timed it that I just went back and
Speaker 12: just about time to walk on and do it.
Speaker 2: So you were managed by Brian Emstein, Yes, I was
Speaker 2: who managed the Beatles, obviously many other acts right at
Speaker 2: that period in popular music in Great Britain. And how
Speaker 2: did how did that happen? How did you get together
Speaker 2: with Brian?
Speaker 12: And it came about where there was a local paper,
Speaker 12: Mersey Beat, that all the young kids used to buy.
Speaker 12: You know, I was very very very popular music paper
Speaker 12: and there was a popularity poll and it was you
Speaker 12: know at the time, I think it's about four hundred
Speaker 12: bands around Liverpool and I came second in the popularity
Speaker 12: poll to the Beatles, and.
Speaker 2: That's not a bad runner up.
Speaker 12: I was joined joined second with a guy called Lee
Speaker 12: Kurs and the All Stars, and then you know I
Speaker 12: was doing shows with the Beatles. I was opening for
Speaker 12: the Beatles as it's certain shows, and then when I
Speaker 12: came second, there was like they had this show, it's
Speaker 12: like a big showcase and we all got got a
Speaker 12: price and I met Brian there because he he'd he'd
Speaker 12: given a Tour of Scotland for the highest place non professional,
Speaker 12: and I declined it because I was. I was at
Speaker 12: the time, I was, and I was training to be
Speaker 12: an engineer.
Speaker 2: Right, you were a railroad engineer, right.
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 2: No, I was.
Speaker 12: You know, people when you say I was an engineer
Speaker 12: on the railroad, people think that you'd rove trains. I
Speaker 12: didn't drive trains. I took them to pieces and maintained
Speaker 12: and put them back together. Okay, that was the kind
Speaker 12: of work I was doing. Now I was, you know,
Speaker 12: I was actually about to leave Liverpool and go to
Speaker 12: a place go Crew for a year, which to me,
Speaker 12: i'd been there doing gigs and I didn't fancy the
Speaker 12: idea of going there for a year. But I was.
Speaker 12: I was about to pack up the music business altogether,
Speaker 12: because part of the training was you went to crew
Speaker 12: for a year to rolls Royce and I was about
Speaker 12: I told the guys in the band I was. I
Speaker 12: was going to pack it all in and Brian came
Speaker 12: about about months before I was gonna go. Brian came
Speaker 12: along and off me offors have management.
Speaker 2: Well tell me about obviously through your association with Brian Epstein,
Speaker 2: how uh, how a mess the Beatles.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and the fact that they gave you songs. They
Speaker 1: were so prolific at writing songs. They had a lot
Speaker 1: of songs that they never recorded, and they kind of
Speaker 1: threw you those bits and and you turn them into hits.
Speaker 2: That that's wonderful. That tell me. Tell me about John
Speaker 2: and Paul and what it was like to work with
Speaker 2: them or to you know, open for them, What it was.
Speaker 12: Like so over for them. You know, it's it's more
Speaker 12: when I look back now, it's more of a big
Speaker 12: deal to me now than what it was then. I think,
Speaker 12: you know, it was like when you share dressing rooms
Speaker 12: with people, people share your hebbrush and stuff like that.
Speaker 12: You don't you know, to me, it was you know,
Speaker 12: I mean I never thought anything about it, you know.
Speaker 12: Paul McCarney, like what I did that Christmas show? I
Speaker 12: remember we used to do with this like pancake makeup
Speaker 12: just to slap. We used to call it slap. And
Speaker 12: it goes, well, can I go, where's your slap, billy?
Speaker 12: I Can I buy you a hairbrush? And you know
Speaker 12: it's like I never looked at it. You know. The
Speaker 12: funny thing is I never eat all the times with
Speaker 12: the Beetles, which is many songs. I never even asked
Speaker 12: for an autograph, right, No, I just.
Speaker 1: Thought, well, if you'd have known what we all know now,
Speaker 1: I probably would have saved some of Paul's here from
Speaker 1: my hair brush.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know what I mean, you know, but I
Speaker 12: never thought about it. Yeah, you know, it's like you know,
Speaker 12: people say to me, like when I did like set
Speaker 12: and Lennon McCartney songs and the lyrics were that that
Speaker 12: they've written out by hands. I never I just like
Speaker 12: roll them up in the ball and throw them a
Speaker 12: waste paper. But I never nobody thought it was gonna
Speaker 12: I don't know, I never thought about it.
Speaker 1: So tell me about this new work that you're doing now.
Speaker 1: You you've continued to record and obviously play all these years. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you and I were talking about what a what
Speaker 1: a blast it is to do what you've always wanted
Speaker 1: to do in life. Yes, you know, I was seven
Speaker 1: years old and I wanted to be on the radio,
Speaker 1: and from nineteen until now, you know, I've been blessed
Speaker 1: enough to be able to do that. And you've been
Speaker 1: in music now for this sixty year period.
Speaker 12: Well, I mean I feel very blessed. You know, like
Speaker 12: I send to you earlier, I've never considered this to
Speaker 12: be a job. You know, we don't get a goal
Speaker 12: watch after so many years. It's something. It's like I
Speaker 12: remember my sister, you know, she's older than me, she's
Speaker 12: ninety four, and she said to me, like, why do
Speaker 12: you do all this?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 12: Now, you know why? How come you know you make
Speaker 12: these records and you do this and you do that.
Speaker 12: And I've said, it's because it's what I do.
Speaker 2: I've told people for years, Billy that my retirement plan
Speaker 2: is death. You know, do people add as you you're
Speaker 2: you going to hang it up?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 12: I mean, I'll be honest with it. We've put a
Speaker 12: tremendous amount of work into this album, you know what.
Speaker 12: I'm delighted with it. I said to Jeff yesterday, what
Speaker 12: are we going to do next?
Speaker 2: That's right, you're thinking about the next project.
Speaker 12: He says to me, Let's get this one out of
Speaker 12: the wake first. But that's the way I am. Yeah,
Speaker 12: all right, exactly, you know. I mean it's like, you know,
Speaker 12: I'm easy, and people go, you know, why you're still
Speaker 12: doing this just because it's what I do?
Speaker 1: Well, look pretty damn good for Adie. I'll tell you that, Billy,
Speaker 1: thank you probably better than I look at sixty three.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, do you attribute that to clean living?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 12: I mean, I'll be honest with it. I mean I
Speaker 12: wasn't always clean living. I used to drink, used to
Speaker 12: drink and smoke and stay out late and all those things,
Speaker 12: all the stuff. But I quit all lots of forty
Speaker 12: years ago. Really, I quit all lots of forty years ago.
Speaker 7: Yes.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's a tribute to you and also a
Speaker 1: testament to what that kind of life can give you,
Speaker 1: this longevity. There's a lot of different pretty famous people
Speaker 1: playing on this album too. You want to talk about
Speaker 1: some of the sidemen that you've got working with you.
Speaker 12: Well, there's Steve Holly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was a great drummer. It was with Paul
Speaker 12: Lawrence Jupa playing guitar. Alan Thompson, it's a bass player
Speaker 12: with Jeff Hotel. Wow.
Speaker 1: You know I met Ian Anderson once? Yeah? Have you
Speaker 1: ever met Ian?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: I met Ian he was doing something.
Speaker 1: He was in town, doing something across the country called
Speaker 1: the Rubbing Elbows Tour, and it was so neat because
Speaker 1: we were on a stage at Music Hall and there
Speaker 1: was a big couch in front of the band on stage,
Speaker 1: and Ian had some local musicians who were playing the
Speaker 1: songs with him, and he'd do a song and then
Speaker 1: we we'd sit and do an you in front of
Speaker 1: the audience about the next song and talk about then,
Speaker 1: and then you'd get up and perform again. It was
Speaker 1: very cool experience.
Speaker 12: But it's you know, it's that is a I do
Speaker 12: a similar thing, now, do you where I do this
Speaker 12: this acoustic songs and stories and I have somebody like
Speaker 12: a DJ interviewed me and asked me questions about different songs,
Speaker 12: how I acquired them. Keep me in mind the next
Speaker 12: time you're in Cincinnati, Billy, I will you know songs
Speaker 12: that I acquired, how I recorded them? Any for these
Speaker 12: stories about them? And I talk about that and then
Speaker 12: I sing the songs.
Speaker 2: So were you ever married?
Speaker 12: I've been married twice. Yeah, yeah, I was married. I
Speaker 12: always say we're all insightles, so make one mistake. Yeah,
Speaker 12: you know I didn't get I'll be very honest with you.
Speaker 12: I didn't get it right the first time. Neither did
Speaker 12: I the second. My second marriage was tremendous. I was
Speaker 12: married to a girl from Long Island, New York. Ronnie
Speaker 12: married for over thirty years. Unfortunately she passed away. I'm
Speaker 12: sorry to hear that. So you say you've been in
Speaker 12: the United States now for thirty six years living here. Yes,
Speaker 12: what prompted you to move from I met huh? I
Speaker 12: met you?
Speaker 2: Met her?
Speaker 12: I met her. I was I was over doing until
Speaker 12: in the United States and I met Ronnie.
Speaker 2: Aren't the girls wonderful on tour?
Speaker 12: Billy? I know that's it's It's strange because you know,
Speaker 12: I think we had an argument the first time I
Speaker 12: met she was to get it out of the way.
Speaker 12: She was into like photography. That's how I met it.
Speaker 12: She come to take some.
Speaker 1: So that's another thing you had in common with Paul Linda, Right,
Speaker 1: So did you keep touch with the boys and the
Speaker 1: initial I'll be honest with that.
Speaker 12: In the early days I told with the beatles of
Speaker 12: loss and then you know, I'll be honest with that.
Speaker 12: I got to a point where, you know, I didn't
Speaker 12: want to hang on to the hotels. You know, I
Speaker 12: used to stay at this place in the Russell Square
Speaker 12: in London, the President Hotel, and I used to see
Speaker 12: Neil Aspinall and male Evans. Then they go. He come
Speaker 12: to Paul's to night and Saint Johnson Wood and I
Speaker 12: was going, no, I'm taking some chick out, some dancer,
Speaker 12: you know, good for you, And I'll be honestly, I
Speaker 12: sort of like backd azz. I think, you know, I
Speaker 12: also have a life, sure you know, Oh absolutely, And
Speaker 12: that's that's what I mean. From time to time over
Speaker 12: the years, I've seen the Beatles, you know. The last
Speaker 12: time Paul came to Long Island, I got together with him.
Speaker 12: But I'm not going to call him up every day.
Speaker 2: Of the week and ask confirm oh no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't think.
Speaker 12: That she's driven crazy.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, he's probably crazy counting as mine,
Speaker 2: you know, I was.
Speaker 12: I was with a lady friend at Christmas time. We
Speaker 12: were going through some big department store and I said,
Speaker 12: you know, Paul can't do this. Yeah, you're right, And
Speaker 12: I thought, you know, I wouldn't want that. I like
Speaker 12: going places. I like going stores, and I like, you know,
Speaker 12: I like being in show business. I like performing, I
Speaker 12: like making music. But would you like to be somewhat
Speaker 12: anonymous when you're rist to me? I'm like, I always
Speaker 12: say that Billy J. Krame is someone that I take
Speaker 12: out of a suit bag. So you've got a new
Speaker 12: single coming from this new album. What is the title
Speaker 12: of this? So we have a single after the moment?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 12: Are you with me?
Speaker 2: But there's a new one coming.
Speaker 12: There's a new one coming which is written by Mark
Speaker 12: Uson Oh It's called I Couldn't have done it without you.
Speaker 12: Well again, the benefit of a pretty darn good songwriter.
Speaker 12: You know, he's a heck of a songwriter. I've done
Speaker 12: a lot of shows with Mark. I'm funny enough. When
Speaker 12: we were like compiling what songs we're going to do
Speaker 12: Abby Road, I'd spoken to Mark about a year before.
Speaker 12: We we had talked about ideas and then I'd sort
Speaker 12: of like made a list of ten songs I so
Speaker 12: be good to do. And then a week or two
Speaker 12: before he called me up and he says, you know
Speaker 12: this song we was talking about. I said yeah, He said, well,
Speaker 12: I finished it. I'll send it to you. It was
Speaker 12: so flipping good. I thought, you know, what can I
Speaker 12: take out and puts this one in?
Speaker 2: So the album, though, is debuting, correct, when does that happen?
Speaker 12: It's going to come out at the end of May
Speaker 12: beginning view all right, and the title of the album
Speaker 12: is are you with Me? Well we are today and
Speaker 12: it's been a joy. Thank you.
Speaker 2: It's been an absolute joy. So you're gonna do videos
Speaker 2: and everything for the song?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 12: We we did a great video one Jeff and I
Speaker 12: went to Liverpool after after we did the Abbey Road
Speaker 12: thing going and Jeff Conny did a great video which
Speaker 12: is a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Is there something about is there still something about the
Speaker 1: mystique about Abbey Road Recording? There is there something to that,
Speaker 1: you know? Is it just a studio or is it
Speaker 1: something there.
Speaker 12: Is something special about it? But you know, I'll be
Speaker 12: honest with you. I have we have this wonderful party
Speaker 12: and my best day and everything there. But you know,
Speaker 12: it's like there was so much going on. The only
Speaker 12: thing is I'll be honest with Somebody came up to
Speaker 12: me and was what does it feel like? And I
Speaker 12: looked across them and remembered exactly where John Lennon was
Speaker 12: when he sat at the piano and played bets to
Speaker 12: me and I call your name, and where Paul played
Speaker 12: from a window. And I'll keep you satisfied. And you know, yeah,
Speaker 12: it's a bit like a bit melancholy.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I love I love even the old stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean we started with the Bad to Me, which
Speaker 1: was your first big one, and Little Children is a
Speaker 1: fantastic song too, and I'm looking forward to hearing the
Speaker 1: album Are You with Me by Billy J. Kramer comes
Speaker 1: out end of May, first of June, and we'll keep
Speaker 1: you posted.
Speaker 12: Thank you very much, anything else, anything else, No, it's
Speaker 12: just being a pleasure. It's being great to be here
Speaker 12: in Cincinnati. It's been wonderful to have met Jeff and
Speaker 12: Missy Oh I do this album. They're very very special people.
Speaker 12: Oh they're great people. And on top of that, they're
Speaker 12: phenomenal musicians, absolutely phenomenal, and I just feel blessed to
Speaker 12: meet such people at this time.
Speaker 13: Meanwhile, when the Untented Forest, the Princess holds us sorrow
Speaker 13: Mary for the movies.
Speaker 2: And watch for Billy J.
Speaker 9: Racky.
Speaker 2: Why thank you?
Speaker 12: This is quite the honor.
Speaker 2: Now what this is it? I mean, we don't get
Speaker 2: a castle or anything. What you get is to go
Speaker 2: back to the radio station and entertain your millions of listeners.
Speaker 2: See oh body beat it. Wow, that's one cranky princess.
Speaker 13: I heard that Buster, Eddie and Rocky, give Your Day
Speaker 13: a fairy Tale, and.
Speaker 2: Eddie and rock Tomorrow afternoon and three on.
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five Here on seven hundred WLW Garry Jeff
Speaker 1: welcoming in author Michael Kanal. A new book just out today,
Speaker 1: and I will tell you if you were a fan
Speaker 1: or you're a devotee of anything mafia and a police involvement,
Speaker 1: whether it's Wise Guys or good fellas, you like that stuff,
Speaker 1: you like the Martin Scorsese stuff, You're going to love
Speaker 1: this book because it's the real story of two decorated
Speaker 1: detectives in the NYPD who basically were mob lookouts. They
Speaker 1: performed murders for the mob. They moonlighted as wise guys
Speaker 1: while they were behind the badge. It's called Blood and
Speaker 1: the Badge, the Mafia. Two killer cops and a scandal
Speaker 1: that shocked the nation and something that only really came
Speaker 1: to light all the details didn't come to light until
Speaker 1: the nineties and then the two thousands, when dedicated to
Speaker 1: active in his own right, decided to look in to
Speaker 1: this open case and all these open cases that occurred
Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties with these two cops, Lewis Epolito
Speaker 1: and Stephen Kara Kappa. Michael Knell, welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you bet. Is this something that you generally write about?
Speaker 1: Is this your genre or what was the jenet?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 12: What was it?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 5: I didn't say it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I didn't set out in life to be to
Speaker 9: be a mafia chronicler, but it's kind of turned worked
Speaker 9: out that way. I wrote a book about the first
Speaker 9: case of criminal profiling, and then a book called The
Speaker 9: Brotherhood Betrayed about murder incorporated the assassination arm of the
Speaker 9: mafia in the nineteen thirties and forties, and in a way,
Speaker 9: this book Blood in the Badge is a sequel to
Speaker 9: that in a funny way, because in the nineteen thirties
Speaker 9: and forties is when organized crime got organized, and this
Speaker 9: period the late eighties and the early nineties is when
Speaker 9: organized crime became disorganized and the mob started to fall
Speaker 9: apart as Rudy Giuliani and other prosecutors used the Rico.
Speaker 7: Laws to bust the mob.
Speaker 9: So the mob in part was using these two corrupt
Speaker 9: cops as.
Speaker 7: A lifeline.
Speaker 9: They were these two cops, these two decorated detectives, were
Speaker 9: feeding sensitive police information to the mob. Who was under surveillance,
Speaker 9: whose phones were tapped, who was about to be arrested,
Speaker 9: and most importantly, who in the mob was secretly cooperating
Speaker 9: with the government. And then the mob would hire these
Speaker 9: detectives to facilitate the murder of the rats or the
Speaker 9: squealers in their ranks.
Speaker 1: The head of the Luksey crime family called them his
Speaker 1: crystal ball, which is very telling now, Epolito and I
Speaker 1: found this out just from a short run through of
Speaker 1: the book The Blood and the Badge, Epolito, you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those apple doesn't fall far from the
Speaker 1: tree stories. Really, he became a cop in spite of
Speaker 1: his family connections to the mafia.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 9: He was born into a prominent mafia family. His father
Speaker 9: was a captain or a capo as they called it
Speaker 9: in the Gambino crime family. His father was known as
Speaker 9: Fat the Gangster, and his uncle was known as Jimmy
Speaker 9: the Clam.
Speaker 7: I loved.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I loved Jimmy the Clam. When I read that,
Speaker 1: I just laughed out. Some of the mob names and
Speaker 1: nicknames are hilaireious. And when you talk about Vinnie the Chin,
Speaker 1: for example, in actual mobsters back in the day, had
Speaker 1: all these wonderful names that have been paried, parodied or
Speaker 1: talked about in in mob movies.
Speaker 2: But please continue, his.
Speaker 9: Names are like right out of the Sopranos. Yes, so,
Speaker 9: Epollito was born into this mafia family.
Speaker 6: His father was kind of an abusive character. No, no surprise,
Speaker 6: and uh it was.
Speaker 9: He grew up in a violent household and his way
Speaker 9: of rebelling against his family was to join the police department.
Speaker 9: When he joined the police department, nobody could believe it.
Speaker 9: It was an act of rebellion, and he became a
Speaker 9: successful cop. He became a decorated detective who earned headlines
Speaker 9: for his work. But his family, as as is often
Speaker 9: the case, his family drew him back in and he
Speaker 9: and his best friend and partner in the police force
Speaker 9: began working for the Lakesy crime family. They were on
Speaker 9: the they were on the payroll.
Speaker 2: It's amazing Uh, now does this book at all?
Speaker 1: I've not gotten deep into it, so I'll just ask you,
Speaker 1: does it get into when you talk about a time
Speaker 1: of disorder? It seemed to coincide not only would Juliani's
Speaker 1: prosecution and crackdown, but also it seems to intersect with
Speaker 1: the the ero of John Gottie and characters like Sammy
Speaker 1: the Bull.
Speaker 2: Are those guys mentioned in the book.
Speaker 9: They are mentioned in the book, and the reason they're
Speaker 9: mentioned is that.
Speaker 7: The cops worked.
Speaker 9: For an underboss known as gas Pipe Caso. He was
Speaker 9: the one who paid them for their services. Gas Pipe
Speaker 9: Case has spent most of his adult life kill informants
Speaker 9: and then he became an informant himself, and the Feds
Speaker 9: intended to use gas Pipe to testify against these two cops.
Speaker 9: Something unexpected happened, and that is that gas Pipes started
Speaker 9: to bad mouse the other informants, including Sammy the Bull,
Speaker 9: who was critical to the prosecution of John Gotti. Right, So,
Speaker 9: the federal prosecutors had a problem on their hand, and
Speaker 9: the way they solved it was to tear up gas Pipes,
Speaker 9: plea agreement and send him to Supermax prison.
Speaker 7: Nobody heard from.
Speaker 9: Him again until he died of COVID four years ago
Speaker 9: in prison. So who was the beneficiary of this Epolito
Speaker 9: and Kara Kappa, the two corrupt cops because there was
Speaker 9: no longer gas Pipe was no longer around to talk
Speaker 9: about what they had done and testify against.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to jeopardize a key part of
Speaker 1: the book, but a key part of them finally being
Speaker 1: found out to be the absolute dastardly criminals that they
Speaker 1: were was another detective who was on his way out
Speaker 1: the door, basically was going to be retiring, and he
Speaker 1: saw these open cases and these files and just wanted
Speaker 1: to close the case, so he tracked it down.
Speaker 2: Tell me about this dude for a minute.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Tommy Dads, I mean, if if I should be
Speaker 9: so lucky as to have this made into a movie someday,
Speaker 9: I'm told I told Tommy Days, I think Bruce Springsteen
Speaker 9: should play him. Tommy Dads is an amazing guy and
Speaker 9: a very charismatic detective who was very close to the
Speaker 9: mothers in the cases that he worked. He was he
Speaker 9: was the son of a single of single woman, a
Speaker 9: single mother, and in his in his professional life, he
Speaker 9: tended to be very close to the mothers of both
Speaker 9: the victims and the perpetrators, and one of the mothers
Speaker 9: of the uh a young man that these two cops
Speaker 9: abducted and was subsequently killed. She figured out who abducted
Speaker 9: her son, and she shared that information with Tommy Dates.
Speaker 9: And that's that's really how they got caught, is that
Speaker 9: Tommy Tommy began to investigate them long after everybody else
Speaker 9: had forgotten about this case.
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 1: I noticed one chapter that just caught my attention, and
Speaker 1: I didn't get too far into it, called the Botched Hit.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that the mafia didn't always comp fleet
Speaker 1: the connect the dots and stuff like that, but apparently
Speaker 1: they do.
Speaker 2: In a story in this book, Blood and the Badge.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, gaspit.
Speaker 9: Casso, the underboss of the Lukse crime family, was nearly
Speaker 9: assassinated while he ate an ice cream cone outside of
Speaker 9: a strip mall in Brooklyn.
Speaker 7: It was a little feud that he had with another
Speaker 7: mob member.
Speaker 2: He escaped.
Speaker 9: He ran into a restaurant and hid in the refrigerator
Speaker 9: in the basement, and then devoted himself to tracking down
Speaker 9: the people who tried to kill him.
Speaker 7: And so he.
Speaker 9: Relied largely on these two corrupt cops to help them
Speaker 9: with that.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing I really can't and I'm not a
Speaker 1: voracious reader. Michael, I'll be honest with you, but I
Speaker 1: can't wait to crack into Blood in the Badge, the Mafia,
Speaker 1: two killer cops, and a scandal that shocked the naked nation.
Speaker 1: The author Michael Knell, and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: the time. I wish you great success with the book.
Speaker 1: I think this is a can't miss. I really do
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 7: I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: You bet you. The night cap continues as we wrap
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Speaker 1: Tuesday evening, we bring you the author of land Rich
Speaker 1: Cash Poor. He's a guy who grew up on a
Speaker 1: farm in Wisconsin. His family farms, and he's very, very
Speaker 1: concerned about the family business and that should concern us
Speaker 1: all as consumers about what the farms bring to us
Speaker 1: on a daily basis. Brian Reisinger, welcome back to the Nightcap.
Speaker 1: It's been a few months, but we did have you
Speaker 1: on a little while ago, and things just continue to
Speaker 1: get worse for the family farm and especially consumers of
Speaker 1: staples like eggs, and the price is just keep going
Speaker 1: through the roof, and bird flu is playing a major role.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Happy new year, and tell me
Speaker 1: what we can expect as twenty twenty five progresses.
Speaker 24: Brian, absolutely well, thanks for having me back on.
Speaker 4: I appreciate Happy new year to you too.
Speaker 24: You're absolutely right, and I think you know we don't
Speaker 24: see some changes to the way our food system works.
Speaker 24: We're going to continue to see high prices and eggs.
Speaker 24: We may see higher prices in milk.
Speaker 4: And here's what's going on. As you mentioned, bird.
Speaker 24: Flu is hitting you know, facility that raise chickens that
Speaker 24: produce eggs. And the problem that we have is we've
Speaker 24: got such an integrated food system because we were wiping
Speaker 24: out so many of our family farms now for so
Speaker 24: long forty five thousand a year for the past century,
Speaker 24: on average, annually.
Speaker 2: We've been losing know all about that.
Speaker 1: We've been losing forty five thousand family farms a year.
Speaker 7: Amazing, isn't it?
Speaker 24: On average for the past century, we've lost forty an
Speaker 24: firee thousand a year, and that is seventy percent of
Speaker 24: our family farm. So we wonder why eggs and other
Speaker 24: things are so expensive. There aren't enough places where people
Speaker 24: can go get eggs. When you got a disaster like
Speaker 24: the bird flu, it hits and all the places where
Speaker 24: we normally get our eggs through. You know, you get
Speaker 24: a big processing plant or a big distribution center that
Speaker 24: goes down because of bird.
Speaker 7: Flu or what have you. It causes huge problems.
Speaker 24: If we had more family farms to plan more food locally,
Speaker 24: we wouldn't have the egg prices going through the roof
Speaker 24: like we're experiencing.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I have heard different things about this avian flu. One
Speaker 1: is is that it's really not that virulent, and it
Speaker 1: just makes chicken sick. It's not killing other animals, it's
Speaker 1: not jumping speceis And then I hear exactly the opposite.
Speaker 1: What do you know about the latest on bird flu
Speaker 1: in America?
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's such a great question, because you do get
Speaker 24: all that information flying around. You know, from what I
Speaker 24: can tell, there is concern and there's risk that it
Speaker 24: could you know, jump into our milk supply as well,
Speaker 24: and that that is a real and valid concern. Here's
Speaker 24: the issue, however far it can spread, and however much
Speaker 24: we should be concerned about, whether it's a lot or
Speaker 24: a little, we do know that it is very clearly
Speaker 24: affecting the supply of our eggs. It is wiping out
Speaker 24: the supply of our eggs and stores, you know, stores
Speaker 24: all across the country. People can't find eggs in the
Speaker 24: first place. If they can, it's far more expensive, and
Speaker 24: in some cases those egg prices are record breaking, you know.
Speaker 7: More expensive than meat.
Speaker 24: And so we've got to understand that, Yes, we've got
Speaker 24: to deal with the bird flu, but more importantly, we've
Speaker 24: got to stop this trend of disappearing farms, and we've
Speaker 24: got to find a way for more of our farms
Speaker 24: to be able to supply more of our food because
Speaker 24: we do have even though we've lost so many, we
Speaker 24: do have nearly two million farms left. If more of
Speaker 24: those farms could play an active role in providing food
Speaker 24: to the American dinner table, we could make it so
Speaker 24: that when Burkel or something like that strikes, it's not
Speaker 24: as big of a threat to our food supply chain.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you a fan of the government paying
Speaker 1: farm subsidies. I've always wondered about why do we need
Speaker 1: if this is such a noble profession and farmers know
Speaker 1: what they're doing, why do we need to pay farmers
Speaker 1: not to grow certain crops or to grow certain crops
Speaker 1: to prop up prices here and there. What's your feeling
Speaker 1: overall on subsidies for farms?
Speaker 2: Are they necessary?
Speaker 7: You know, I'll tell you.
Speaker 24: We could debate each individual program.
Speaker 7: Here's the reality.
Speaker 24: What we need more so the government subsidies, is we
Speaker 24: need new entrepreneur opportunity.
Speaker 4: For our farms.
Speaker 24: We got all of those farms that are left, and
Speaker 24: nearly two million, most of them are small farms. That
Speaker 24: surprises people, and the reason is the big farm supplier
Speaker 24: food the smaller farms, they try to supply some of it,
Speaker 24: but they aren't able to farm full time because they're
Speaker 24: not even like a full time living, and so they're
Speaker 24: working two three jobs in addition to work in the farm.
Speaker 24: What we need to do is have new entrepreneur opportunity
Speaker 24: in this country. We got more people who care about
Speaker 24: where our food comes from than ever before. We got
Speaker 24: all these family farms that are working hard supplying food
Speaker 24: where they can. If they could be growing entrepreneuri adventures again,
Speaker 24: then to do a hack of a lot more than
Speaker 24: a government program would for them.
Speaker 2: Brian, I think I've told you before.
Speaker 1: My beloved late uncle Jerry Maybeus was a huge farmer
Speaker 1: in southeastern Iowa his entire life, and it was he
Speaker 1: was about a fourth generation of the Maybiest family that
Speaker 1: farmed this land. They just kept on growing it and
Speaker 1: growing it growing. It was a family farm and it
Speaker 1: still is. But people don't understand you talk about working
Speaker 1: two or three other jobs. He worked sixteen hours a
Speaker 1: day every day pretty much most of his life to
Speaker 1: keep that going. And he had a lot of acreage,
Speaker 1: mind you, it's a large farm, pigs, cows, had his
Speaker 1: own pork processing plant right across the road from his farmhouse,
Speaker 1: where all the meat was prepared and shipped off to
Speaker 1: market and whatever it was packaged and everything had chickens
Speaker 1: and the like. So it was a big operation. But
Speaker 1: it is so labor intensive as a profession. I don't
Speaker 1: know why anyone would want.
Speaker 7: To do it, you know, it really is.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of work.
Speaker 24: It's sun up the sundown on a normal day and
Speaker 24: then you got you know, if you've got a time
Speaker 24: of year planting or harvest where you're in the fields,
Speaker 24: it can be the sky's the limit terms of the
Speaker 24: hours a day.
Speaker 7: And that's true.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of hard working. It's economic hardship to
Speaker 4: it as well. It's also a beautiful way of life.
Speaker 24: You know, you grow up working with your dad in
Speaker 24: the time you can walk see the cow dog running
Speaker 24: up the pasture bringing the cows into the box, still
Speaker 24: coming down through the meadow. I mean, it is a
Speaker 24: beautiful thing. You get down in your blood, your bones.
Speaker 24: And what I always say to people is they are
Speaker 24: all these farm families still work in their farms, whether
Speaker 24: they're a farm like that. That's a full time operation
Speaker 24: and it's taken every moment they got, or whether they're
Speaker 24: trying to keep their farm going on the side while
Speaker 24: they're pulling factory shifts and pouring concrete or whatever else
Speaker 24: they're doing. These are people who are working so hard
Speaker 24: to try to feed our country, and they're doing it
Speaker 24: even though it's a you know, it's an economic situation.
Speaker 4: It doesn't really work for him anymore.
Speaker 24: Imagine what we could accompts in this country who have
Speaker 24: made it work.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: You know, I love this topic because again, I've never
Speaker 1: been involved in the farm work myself, but I have
Speaker 1: plenty of relatives and family ties. Brian Riisinger land rich,
Speaker 1: cash poor, my family's hope, and the untold history of
Speaker 1: the disappearing American farmer. All I can do is pray
Speaker 1: that what you are petitioning for comes true.
Speaker 2: Brian, take care, Thank you so much, Thank
Speaker 1: You, And in honor of America's farmers and America the
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