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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the IT episode two.

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I'm not used to the title it Welcomed to Dairy

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episode two spoisero. It's one of those titles of we

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talked about that. I get why they call it that,

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but it's kind of a mouthful and just doesn't really

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ring off the tongue. But yeah, I'm the pickled trast.

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Now I'm joined by nice name.

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Speaker 2: I am, then hardcaster Delmas.

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Speaker 1: There you go, laies, gentlemen, and here we are to

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talk about set episode. As I just mentioned. Uh yeah,

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thanks to everybody who listened on the last one. Thank

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you very much. I haven't looked at the stats, but

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I think they did good. I have Dilma made a

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chart for our episode one debuts and what dot and

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so I think it did pretty well. So thank everyone

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that checked it out. And uh yeah, I guess we're

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not really delayed. If I don't know what the schedule is,

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I think on HBO they did show it tonight, but

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obviously it was streaming hallowe night. But uh, it's kind

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of a you know, great for the viewers, not so

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much for us the content creators. But we're here. And

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then after this, we'll get back into it. I think

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next week should be me and Taylor because you'll be

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on a bus back to Klona, right, so you won't

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be you won't be in dairy at all. You'll be

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and bere that is true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be on en route.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there he goes. You got that that's coming

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out next week? So yeah, me and Tayor will do

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that unless we're just dead from the stream. But I

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think we'll muster it, you don't know, pun intended and

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figure it out. And then you got side quest. This week,

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you got a Weekly Geek with Taylor and I and

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Predator bad Lands. Uh, you know review coming That's gonna

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be fun. That's kind of sneaking up on me this whole.

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I know we say this all the time. Again older,

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it's just October went by like that. The fact that

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it was Halloween just over with nuts to me.

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Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, I debated skipping Predator only because Predator,

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you know, we see a movie late, we review it late. Yeah,

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I gotta get on a bus at seven am, so

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I gotta be there earlier. And so I was like, ah,

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do I do this because I need to get a

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good sleep you know, for four twenty four hour stream,

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but you know, I'm just gonna do it anyway. So

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we're gonna we're gonna do this Predator review. I'll get

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no sleep, I'll go on a bus, I'll get to

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Klona and hopefully'll get a lot of sleep Friday night

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and then be ready to go for Saturday stream.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Not like you gotta do anything tenuous on the Saturday,

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you know, Oh no.

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Speaker 2: No brain power, no nothing required.

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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, and mentioning that, yes, the Saturday ten am

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PST twenty four hour Extra Life stream, which I'm funny

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we moved it because of Halloween because kirkha was in Japan,

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but I saw that Extra Life actually their official game

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day is the Saturday, so they followed my cue that

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was before. So but yeah, we're staying up twenty four hours,

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trying to raise funds for BC Children's Hospital. Down below

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is the link for the full schedule, the Golden Locks,

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some on the stream, some off. I got the uh

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Harry Potter jelly beans. Everyone's welcome. If not, I'll be

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doing it. But an old school throwback off, So we

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did that way way back, and I think you're one

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of the custardome. But yeah, so that's gonna be fun,

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tons of fun stuff. Anything you can donate, we would

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appreciate it. That goes towards BC Children's Hospitals, surgeries, recovery hospital, stays,

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all that stuff. We're trying to hit at least two

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thousand CD. That'd be great because we could have hit

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twenty thousand for the last nine years. And yeah, it's

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tax deductible their shirts. You can buy two all that

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stuff to the link and I we'd appreciate it. Come

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and watch that day, share it. If you can't watch

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hit a like if you can't donate, completely understand, but

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just help us spread the love. And yeah, Trivia Battle

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participants are gonna be now this week on the weekly

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Geek Me and Tayor will spin the wheel and decide

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the round one matchups for the Geek for a small

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a cup so we can download some stuff in advance.

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so it should be a good time. Deil must though

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episode two of Welcome Darry Did you have a good

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Speaker 2: Episode two of Welcome to Dairy boil Boy Travis. This

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this episode was dry as a bone, and this was

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I'm like, geez, Louie, is what is going on here?

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actual scary stuff, like the you know, big penny Wise

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but they were fun scenes like good well shot and

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all that. But yeah, I think I'm just so far

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feeling a little underwhelmed with the world building of I

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guess just Dairy as a as a town, which is

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you know, it's in the title of the show here.

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I think that's where we're going with this, and I'm

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sure it's gonna build up to some interesting stuff. But

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this episode felt pretty rough for me. Really, I could

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have easily seen this one getting chopped down like a

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forty minute EP or something like that, and I got

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like the same amount of information across. So yeah, not

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my favorite episode of the out of the two, I

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guess there's only two to compare too, But yeah, that's

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where I'm at right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting. I had the opposite effect where I

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liked it more than episode one, so I was positive

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on it. I think last week, because I know Clayon

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of I think there's people that like or really enjoy

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the movies but are kind of on the fence of

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do I want to go watch an eight episode series? Right?

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junkie or if you don't love any of those movies, like, okay,

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do I want to commit to this? So for me,

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episode one, I was like, Okay, I could see like

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Speaker 1: I thought there's a lot of good, interesting dynamics. I

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that was good. I'm liking some of the I think

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last week, but even this week, it feels like these

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of you know, five weeks from now, they'll unite and

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different the army stuff, silfed away and see. But I

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that obviously we've talked about coming in that I'm excited

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and I actually was liking the actors. So yeah, for

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some of the dynamics, especially I think in the last

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five minutes of where we could go the season, especially

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one location. I think we're gonna have lots of fun

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Speaker 1: So no, well there you go, So ladies show them

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if you've not seen the episode, bounce out, come back

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later and then we'll be right back and we're back. Yeah.

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I think other than that, Patron could get this episode.

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we did the two Tron's right, but Running Man, the

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good stuff there our entire library, so we very much

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appreciate that. Uh, mister mus where do you want to

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be just a quick hit. But man, I was so

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worried when we get this scene of our I don't

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what we saw last week? What's going on here? And

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the fact that the show freaking went for it in

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that we were about to undo it. I was about

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to be heck a piste. But then they then they said, no,

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it's just just a nightmare. Everything actually did happen, and

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you know, like you got you gotta earn more of

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it because because yeah, they went for and that would

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have just been such a fake out. And I hate

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when she was I don't mind if it's in a scene.

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they kills kids and did this, that's that's nuts. And

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then nothing. So I'm very happy that happened. And then yeah,

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about where we were discussing what was gonna happ with

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just missing and they are playing on one the crime

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just pin it on the theater owner. He's the main

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character and saw six. I can't remember his whole name.

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So I don't know if there's much of a trick there.

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It seems pretty obvious what he's trying to get you

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to get you to say. But you know, she's a kid.

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Speaker 2: We'll give her that.

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Speaker 1: That's true. That's true kid with some issues.

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Speaker 2: So a kid who, yeahs, doesn't have a great mom

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and has spent time kind of locked up when seemingly

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she doesn't need to be, So yeah, you can give

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her a little uh lenience there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Carl Richie is saying he's been enjoying it so

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far better than he expecting. So there you go. So

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that's hard, which is hard to please him sometimes, you know,

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chill out last after nine lots of hot takes always,

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But uh I did because I don't know if we

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we found this out last week, but I did appreciate

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that they've informed us. And honestly, it's the end the episode.

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That's what I'm excited too. I know it sounds weird,

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but that Lily has been locked up before in the asylum.

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I don't think we knew that last week, right, I

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think just a shit episode. Okay, then I I forgot

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that then, Okay. So I am excited, though as messed

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up as I'm excited for her to be back there

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because I feel like you can do a lot of

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fun things with Penny Wise and scares, and you meet

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other people, and I guarantee you I wonderful, even meet

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someone else that was like a victim of penny wise

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that was maybe that they serve I've been deemed crazy

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or whatnot. So I think there's some good set pieces

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there that I hope could bring some good potential into

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the season.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's one. So one thing also in between

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last week's episode in this week, so I have rewatched

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uh It chapter one, and then I'm like halfway through

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chapter two. It's a long movie, so I still need

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a few days to get through all of it. But

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one thing I totally forgot about is Bowers. I've heard

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his first name, hen Henry Bowers. Yeah, he's like in

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an insane asylum in the second one and breaks out

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of there, And I don't is that the same Bill Yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the nay. I don't know if it's

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exact same Billain, but the name was the similar. They

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went to three locations. They went to at one point

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the character of the the mom of the uh the

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guy that's Mike's great grandfather. He's the armor guy, the

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main guy. They I'll get his name, but they chow

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the alleyway at one point. That's big for Mike, And

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that mean I think you might have already watched that.

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There's one point like he Mike's an alleyway and he

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looks in a bunch of meat lockers, and penny Wise

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is there. You kind of just see the silhouette of him.

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But anyway, there's an alley, right, there's an antique shop

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that is also from the movies. And then yeah, the

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asylum is also from the movie. So we saw three

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locations this.

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Speaker 2: Week and even them setting up like building the big

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Paul Bunyan statue, which is a big set piece in

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the second movie as well. For Richie, I think it's

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in the second movie. It's Bill Hitter having like a

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flashback to when he was younger version and was getting

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chased by that thing, right, because I think that wasn't

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the second movie, but it was with finn Wolf.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they changed it later on to be like, oh,

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this did happen during the summer, but you know we

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didn't see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So that was a fun because I don't

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know if I would have remembered that because I haven't

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watched this second movie in a long time, but just

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seeing that scene yesterday and then kind of having a

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little bit of world building there, so that's where I'm

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getting a little bit more out of revisiting those movies

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right now too, and just kind of okay, familiarizing myself

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with some of it, but just like I don't know,

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tasteful little pieces of connection. I wonder, like, I don't know,

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I wonder if that Paul Bunyan thing we'll see again

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in this show or if that was purely just like

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one quick scene, just as like a fun little knowledge

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in the movies. But we'll see how much the show

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is doing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because there was a moment where there

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was the welcome to Darius sign. Someone threw a guy.

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Were they throwing out the sign or were they actually

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throwing out the lady and missed?

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Speaker 2: They're trying out the Paul Bunyan sign.

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Speaker 1: I think, oh, yeah, they were. I just wasn't sure

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because obviously the lady was walking through the town and

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some people were giving her off. Look said, you just

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don't know. Obviously some people they are playing on the racism,

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but then something they're playing on the like the there's

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some weird stuff going on in Darry So I wasn't

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sure in that scene if they were trying to hit

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her and they missed, but she just took it as oh,

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they're throwing at the sign, but I think it was

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the sign, but I didn't know for sure. I didn't

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get a read on that, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. And that lady is the

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army guy's wife who is now shut up in town

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with their kid. So yeah, how did you feel about

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that because we kind of we spent a lot of

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time with that family in this episode, probably more time

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with them than even Lily or anyone else if you

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kind of factor in all of them.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that guy is Lee Roy Hamleon the Hamlets, right.

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I don't know why. I'm just gonna keep on that

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because yeah, technically this guy Lee is Mike's great grand

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or I think just god or grand just grandfather, not

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great great great grandfather, butt grandfather.

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Speaker 2: That's also fun as well. I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh yeah, I didn't mind it. I am.

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It is interesting to see because I feel some worry

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of they. I guess see how they get there because

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they killed all these kids last week. But then I

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feel like the girl with the glasses that used to

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be friends with Lily that isn't she's getting a bit

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more play handling Son's there, and even Handling's son was

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interacting with that kid in the hallway that saw Lily's

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friend or ex friend. They did like that love like

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slow motion everything like that. So for me, I'm just

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worried that it's gonna take a couple episodes and the

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kids will just be like that. But at least I'm

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gonna still kind of gathered that. I don't think they

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will be like the Losers Club where they're just all friendly.

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It feels like they will come together. But so the

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handling stuff, I I didn't mind it at first. I

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wasn't sure what the situation was because they end up joking,

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but I was sure if it was like a single

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parent divorce situation because when he's a and Wayne here

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for two hours, but then when they went to me

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to smile at okay, But I wasn't sure if that

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was the case, And I'm kind of happy. I didn't

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really need like the two divorced parents fighting over the kids.

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Like there's enough trope sometimes in TV shows. So yeah,

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I like them all. I think the moment was kind

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of a good guide, right because that was her first

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time in Derry where Lee Roy. He's there, but it

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doesn't sound like he's really doing much in the tent

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like sounds like he's working all the time, right, So yeah, yeah,

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so it's like he doesn't get a good idea of

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what the city's like. And then even then, like obviously

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he's gonna see some stuff at the sun, he's gonna

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be at school, kind of segregated place where the wife

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she's gonna be kind of all over, you know, especially

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in this era, she's doing the cooking, the shopping, the cleaning,

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the talking to their housewives, et cetera. So I think

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that was a good moment of her kind of seeing

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some off people, seeing you know, those kids beat that

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one kid up and no one in the town really

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caring about it. Also, yeah, so I think they were

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good kind of guides to what's going on. And I

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like the young Hamling kids so far are you know?

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So yeah, I enjoyed them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good way to put it,

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is that, you know, them being kind of the new

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people in town. It's a good way to introduce like

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the viewer to what Darry is like currently. And some

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of it seems like pretty on the nose and I'm

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curious to see how much depth we're gonna put on

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top of that, And like Oh, yeah, Darry's kind of

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a shitty place. It's racist. Yeah, And like I'm curious

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to see we're going. We're we're gonna go like eight

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episodes of that, like if we're gonna see much much

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change or anything. And obviously even in like the later

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IT movies, there's you know, still people not not being

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the most friendly and things like that too, But I think, yeah,

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having the dynamic of one, yeah, the wife can kind

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of go around town, go to the antique store, go

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to all these different places, and see what that perspective

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is like, and then having the kids as well, because yeah,

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we didn't really get as much of him. I guess

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we got more other things of the school, but not

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him necessarily as much as we did the mom. So

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I don't know, I'm intrigued to see where this is going.

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And I think I'm more I was, you know, in

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the first episode of not loving this kind of old

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army storyline, but now knowing this character is also going

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to have this awkward dynamic where he's like trying to

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joke with his son about like telescope and spying, but

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like that joke doesn't really land because he's like not

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really been around and he doesn't really know his kid

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that well clearly, Like I think there's some I don't know,

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some some potential there that I'm excited to dig war

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into now and you and is.

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Speaker 1: It just because of him? Why the army stuff is working?

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Like how did you feel about the the reveal because

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I'll show it to superad Mike. He did call last

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week that he thought it was a test and that's

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what they at first made it seem like, Okay, it

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was just a racist officer, but he put together, Hey,

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they use this very specific gun that's very hard to

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load and reload, and which I enjoyed them. Kind of

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him triggering this guy, I think maybe a little easy

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because he's supposed to be an officer right, like he's not.

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I think I maybe would have bought it if it

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was more just like a piece of shit guy out

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the street, But he's supposed to be officer. So the

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fact that he made just kind of one joke about

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like sleeping with his mother, like, oh, that's what I'm

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gonna pull a gum. Yeah, maybe felt a little fast,

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but I like the idea of oh, he out smart

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him and then he as the whole Oh you should

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sit down, Sonny. He tells this, it's very like men

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it's men in black, Like it's a special operation sort

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of thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's so classic James Ramar stuff of like

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this guy who just clearly withholds information and kind of

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screws papers and is like super shady. Uh, And like

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I know, it's not like he's even trying to like

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hide it by being a light jovial guy. Like he's

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just a very stern guy as well, so his tone

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is Honestly, it's like kind of perfect casting for what

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this guy is. I mean, yeah, I'm pretty I was

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pretty intrigued with this stuff at like the very end

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of the episode. I think some of the scenes prior

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were like kind of dry just the writing of it,

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even if I kind of like some of that dynamic

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a little bit. But yeah, the stuff at the end,

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I don't know if we want to jump all the

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way there right now. Yeah, But like I don't know

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first of all, this idea of like this you know,

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device that can induce fear, and I'm curious to see

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what that how that relates to Penny Wise and what's

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going on there because I still don't really understand. And

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then unearthing the car, which is that is that the

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car from the episode one?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 2: One of the people in the car with a big

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gun looked like maybe an army guy or something, which

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no one in the car was that, so I couldn't

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quite tell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough because that's what I thought, because and

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I kind of hope it is. I don't know how

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they can strictly answer that, right, because it's kind of

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I almost like that idea of people, and I guess

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we have seen that before, where the things people Pennywise

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kills he can kind of take on, right, like, because

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you're watching it chapter two, and remember Henry Bowers when

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he's older. I'm not sure if he got there. He

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sees like his friend in the past but still is

474
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a teenager and he's possessed and even he does yeah,

475
00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:36,559
and he even does that Georgie, right, So it kind

476
00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:38,799
of would make sense that, hey, Pennywise maybe took out

477
00:19:38,839 --> 00:19:41,519
this family or these kids in this car way in

478
00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:43,319
the past and he's kind of using them as like

479
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,319
a shield. But he said, there's some things we didn't see.

480
00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:47,559
But obviously it's because you could just argue that that's

481
00:19:47,559 --> 00:19:50,319
a penny Wise like nightmare scenario. He's made up right,

482
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,839
So I feel to me it has to be tied

483
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,319
to that because it feels very odd specifically to me,

484
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,839
it had that car. Last pisode of The Car, I

485
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,200
didn't do a body count, but had several bods. He's

486
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,079
not just when I had several bodies like that car. Yeah,

487
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,160
So I don't know exactly what that means as far

488
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,960
as like, I don't know why penny Wise would have

489
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,079
to like hide a car there per se. Like I

490
00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:13,599
feel like penny Wise and kind of just get away

491
00:20:13,599 --> 00:20:14,960
with his crimes, you know, Like.

492
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,799
Speaker 2: I mean normally he would like want the bodies for himself.

493
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, not the car. Yeah, so that's why it's like

494
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,200
the body's aren't there and the car is not there.

495
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,079
I don't know if it's a situation where the thing

496
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,240
crashed in, but yeah, like you said, because penny Wise,

497
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,480
that's the thing where he also is or just whatever

498
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,240
the entity is feeding off fear or making you fear

499
00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:36,240
things and stuff. So I don't know if this is

500
00:20:36,279 --> 00:20:38,960
like a home base form or whatnot. So and I

501
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,079
don't know, you know, can.

502
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,319
Speaker 2: You remind me the time jump in episode one from

503
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,640
when that kid goes missing to when.

504
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,559
Speaker 1: The story four months I think because I was.

505
00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:50,799
Speaker 2: Trying to think too, like does the decomposition sort of

506
00:20:50,839 --> 00:20:53,079
line up, and I think it kind of sort of does,

507
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,680
so it seems like that could be the case.

508
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be. Yeah, So no, it was interesting.

509
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,599
I wasn't sure at first too if that was really

510
00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:02,039
things that happening, because they we met Dick Holleran in

511
00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:04,920
this episode and again they kind of we'll see again

512
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,720
with the race stuff if it's service level. But they're

513
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,880
having a good time with their buddies. That sergeant walks

514
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,160
in pretty much sells a bartender, kick them out, and

515
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,200
then they get out of there as fast as possible.

516
00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:14,640
I did like the scene when they go back to

517
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,720
the army base and say, well, that's it. You're gonna

518
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,440
get ridden up're gonna bean big, just this could be

519
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,680
the end of you. He's like, I just just say

520
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,880
it's Dick Holleran and then he's like, all right, you're

521
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,480
good to go. But right after that scene, they directly

522
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,920
went to a scene where he's like almost gonna throw

523
00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:28,839
up and he's getting really hot and heavy. I thought

524
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,680
that was a flashback. I didn't think that was present

525
00:21:31,759 --> 00:21:34,039
day stuff. I thought that was showing kind of what

526
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,880
he's been doing, but I guess it was present day really,

527
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,519
like the transition of when he did throw up a

528
00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:41,440
transition into the uh, the mash potato is hidding the plate,

529
00:21:41,519 --> 00:21:44,519
so you know, thumbs up for that, but uh, yeah,

530
00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:46,519
so I'm not sure, like obviously we kind of figured

531
00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:49,599
that's what he would be doing. I will. I wonder

532
00:21:50,519 --> 00:21:53,720
like with James Ramar's character being all, we need smart

533
00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:58,079
people and people that don't have fIF like I guess, like,

534
00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:01,519
don't get me wrong, I get what he's saying about

535
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,160
this guy doesn't have fear because he can question authority

536
00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:07,240
and take on these supposed races head a head. But

537
00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:09,119
he's just like and honestly, they don't know. But I

538
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,599
just feel like that's a huge leap to go from oh,

539
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,000
this guy who's just like will stand up at work,

540
00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:18,079
will be intolerant to this, let's just say some object

541
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,519
that's gonna make him scared or something right like that.

542
00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:22,119
That's a huge leap. But I guess that's all they

543
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,440
they got in the scenario.

544
00:22:23,599 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 2: So but yeah, I mean, maybe there's a lot more

545
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,759
testing or things like that that have gone on I

546
00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:30,400
don't know, yeah.

547
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,799
Speaker 1: So, but yeah, we did meet Dick this episode. I

548
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,839
kind of was surprised that he was this early. I

549
00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:35,960
thought it'd be a little bit and I think we've

550
00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:37,920
kind of heard these Gnna Malp episodes. And I like

551
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,359
that character introduction. I like the character so far. I

552
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,240
like that he's not kind of doing like a Scatman

553
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,839
Brothers kind of impersonation they do then Doctor's Sleep and

554
00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:47,279
it's probably a good idea just to do your own thing.

555
00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:49,640
I feel like I've seen this actor in something. I

556
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,400
could not put my finger on it. It just felt like

557
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,400
I had seen him. But I liked him, and I

558
00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:55,480
liked kind of the introduction, and it kind of makes

559
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,920
sense of they're kind of just using him as a magnet, right,

560
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,799
and that's what the shinings all the time, right like

561
00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:01,759
they he even says, it's like your battery and you

562
00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:03,519
get electrified when you go in there. So it kind

563
00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:05,960
of makes sense that what like when he says we're

564
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,319
getting close, that's what's gonna be interesting as far as

565
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,759
how many dig sites have they been? What it like,

566
00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:13,000
what what are you getting close to doing? Right? Like?

567
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,119
What are they gonna do with this and I guess

568
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,680
my last two point too. We're talking about this in

569
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,359
the discord, and that's always the trouble with the prequel stuff.

570
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,200
It's like how much do you want them to figure

571
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,680
out or know and then not do anything in twenty

572
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,799
seven years or twenty seven years after the fact, right,

573
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,839
Like it will be straight. But I guess we're to

574
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,039
find out right because we know this Leroy guy he

575
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,880
makes it because he goes on to be a grandfather.

576
00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:35,880
So it's not like they're gonna kill them all right,

577
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,000
like in the Row Row one scenario where oh what

578
00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:40,279
happened to that crew? Oh well they all got taken

579
00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:41,440
off the board, right, So.

580
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I was trying to find an answer

581
00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:46,480
for you of what else this guy has been in

582
00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:51,079
that maybe you'd know him from. And I'm not really

583
00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:54,039
getting like using godsil versus cang. He was in twelve

584
00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:55,559
Years of Slave, but I don't know how big of

585
00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:57,599
a role he had in there. So I think of

586
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,359
the things you've seen, but I don't know if you did,

587
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,279
you have you noticed? So if you google it, welcome

588
00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:04,559
to Darry. Like a balloon pops up on Google and

589
00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:05,559
just like floats up.

590
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: Your browser really let me try this, so that's.

591
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: Uh, it's kind of kind of freaky, a little creepy.

592
00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:15,039
Speaker 1: Let's see. Okay, it did. I was gonna laugh if

593
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:16,680
it didn't happen to me that I'd say that you're

594
00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:21,920
you're next, you know, yeah you should have. I should have. Yeah.

595
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,119
But yeah, what do you think about Dick's introduction here?

596
00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I I think I don't really have

597
00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:29,119
much of an opinion yet on this one. I'm curious

598
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,839
to see where it goes. And I I didn't even

599
00:24:31,839 --> 00:24:33,759
like pick up. Oh yeah, that's like the shiny guy.

600
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,920
Like that's how I'm not, as you know, in deep

601
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,319
on the lore of this sort of thing. But yeah,

602
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:40,799
I think I'll have to kind of report back next

603
00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:42,759
week on that one. And not too much here for

604
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:44,079
this episode for me.

605
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,519
Speaker 1: Okay, I figured it out. What I know him from.

606
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,880
He was in the Gotham TV show. He played Lucia's Fox.

607
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,319
So Morgan Freeman's character from the Noman movies like Batman's

608
00:24:53,319 --> 00:24:57,759
Gadget Guy a submarine Mistoane like a submarine. So yeah,

609
00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:02,559
he just supplied Bruce with gadget some stuff. So okay, yeah, cool,

610
00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:05,240
trying to think, Sorry, go ahead. It sound like you

611
00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:05,839
had somewhere to go.

612
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess we can jump over to some

613
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,400
of the school drama stuff, which, yeah, I don't really

614
00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:17,519
know how I'm feeling about some of this yet. Like

615
00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:21,559
we get this cafeteria scene with the patty cake squad,

616
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:24,000
and I don't know that. I feel like that scene

617
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,559
was really trying to build up some suspense, not in

618
00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:29,119
like the big horror way, but I felt like it

619
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,440
was going for something that wasn't really working for me.

620
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,680
It was just like a deflated balloon like the whole time.

621
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:36,440
So I don't know. And then I guess we have

622
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:38,480
like a bit of drama of like this friend trying

623
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,400
to reach out, here are you doing? And you know,

624
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:43,720
Lily's just totally zoned out in your own world, doesn't

625
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:46,680
really care to have these conversations. So this is another

626
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,519
thing too where like I don't really know where we're

627
00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:51,000
going with this. I'm guessing some of these this, you know,

628
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:54,200
the the plastics so to speak, like the this crew

629
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,880
of mean girls, like feels like at least that main

630
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,279
one is like a prime Pennywise kill, Like feel like

631
00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:02,599
that's gonna happen for sure. It feels like we're building

632
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,920
up to like she's abby girl who's gonna be fun

633
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,319
to watch, like get murdered, I guess, but I don't know.

634
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:09,559
Speaker 1: Like the main one that was like like leaning the crew,

635
00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:12,079
that'd be like, oh, Beverly, your jacket that or she

636
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,079
could be the Bowers where like Penny Whites kind of

637
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:16,640
works through her. That's the vibe I was getting as

638
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,200
far as because because there's I doesn't.

639
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,559
Speaker 2: See that dark side to her. I just think she's

640
00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:23,359
like snobbying, annoying, and Jacket's like fucked up.

641
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: There's just a couple of smiles she gave, especially during

642
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,160
the Pattycake, she was looking very clown like and not

643
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:30,319
the act was just like the like the the cheeks

644
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:32,319
were up high, you know, and I think anytime the

645
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,680
cheeks on the face were up high, I could see

646
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,920
something like that, So you could be completely right. I

647
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,240
also like, I imagine there's going to be a redemption,

648
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,920
but uh, you know, I'm not rooting for the uh

649
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,680
the girl and the glasses yet either. I feel like,

650
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,680
you know, obviously she's being pretty pretty mean Lily. You know.

651
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: It's almost like we're missing backstory of like them being

652
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,920
good friends, Like I know that they were, and they've

653
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,799
kind of drifted apart, especially in like these last few weeks.

654
00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:57,599
But I feel like as a viewer, I don't like

655
00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:00,839
just buy into that relationship immediately. That's a chemistry thing,

656
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,200
or the fact that we were kind of just like

657
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,920
middle of their story here, we're not. We didn't haven't

658
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,720
seen like become friends. But to me that I just

659
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,480
don't really I don't, like, my heart isn't in. I

660
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:12,359
don't care if they end up friends or not, Like

661
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,880
it doesn't really make a difference right now.

662
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I agree with you. The cafeterious and kind

663
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,200
of I felt like it was trying to set up

664
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,079
the same way as I can't remember what they were

665
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,559
saying last week in the car, remember the kids and

666
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:27,799
the mother out You remember they kept spelling oh u

667
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,160
T over and over. Yeah, So I thought we were

668
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,359
gonna get something creepy having because it was a similar

669
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,880
cadence where it's a group of people doing something over

670
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,799
and over again. Especially at the time, I thought, all

671
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,039
this girl has some Penny wise kind of taken over

672
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,240
vibe and then just ended with her same bullshit, which

673
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:43,599
you know, fine obviously back then that's a huge thing

674
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,920
to say. You don't want to be saying that. But yeah,

675
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,200
I thought there was gonna be a little bit more.

676
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,160
But I did like the dynamic of Lily and what

677
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:53,079
is that other character's name, Ronnie of far As, because

678
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:55,160
we always see like in shows like Okay, why won't

679
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,880
the kids say anything, and it's just because like, well

680
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,240
it's a big clown. But I like this big or

681
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:02,000
like they'll seem crazy. But I like the reasoning of

682
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,799
she can't be too specific because she's just gonna get

683
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,200
taken back, which kind of sucks because now she just

684
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,680
gets taken back regardless, so it's almost like she didn't

685
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,000
need to. She would have just been better off not

686
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:14,119
saying anything. You know, she still ended up the same

687
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,480
spot where she was afraid to. But I think that

688
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,400
was a really good dynamic for it to actually have

689
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,480
Lily not say anything, versus some kid being either just

690
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,839
scared about it, kind of pathetic about it, or like

691
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,799
in denial, which we've seen before. So I like that again.

692
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:29,039
I like that Lily Ronnie aren't as of right now

693
00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:31,799
the best of pals. Ronnie was being down the door

694
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:33,759
trying to like get at her, like I want to

695
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:36,759
talk to your daughter and stuff, and so I enjoyed that.

696
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:41,039
So yeah, I liked their dynamic so far. Sad Lily's there,

697
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:43,480
and then I guess, Ronnie, I think it's just gonna

698
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,200
be on full just kind of detective mode probably soon, right,

699
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,640
because she's got a clearer dad one way or another,

700
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,319
even though it kind of feels like you're not gonna

701
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:52,880
be able to clear them because it sounds like the

702
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,960
many people just have an in form right, I thought,

703
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,119
obviously it's a I think the line was good because

704
00:28:58,119 --> 00:28:59,799
it has a lot to do with today. But with

705
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,319
that they're taught, they're pressuring the sheriff and he's, well,

706
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,480
you know, I have no witnesses. He has an albi.

707
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:09,039
He's like, this is America after all and thinks it's

708
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:11,519
not America, it's dairy, which I thought was actually a

709
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:13,480
scary line. That's not Penny Ones at all. That it

710
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:16,240
is like, because are there are people with that mindset? Right,

711
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:17,880
and it's just kind of you gotta figure it out

712
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,240
or we're gonna figure it out for you.

713
00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:23,599
Speaker 2: So I feel like that's a perfect snapshot of how

714
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:25,240
we just felt so different about this episode. I thought

715
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,279
that was like the cheesiest like stupid line. Ever, I

716
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:30,720
was like, who wrote this? Like this is so lame? Yeah,

717
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:33,400
but I can totally see that. But Okay, do you

718
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,279
think Ronnie is gonna help Lily break out of this

719
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,319
place and then like help like hide her maybe, Like

720
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,559
I don't know if the theater might be a just

721
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,680
dangerous like the hider, but hider somewhere.

722
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: Something has to happen because I don't think she's gonna

723
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,359
break her out because almost why would she, right, because

724
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,880
I feel like she's so mad at her, it might

725
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,240
be like a good riddance kind of.

726
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,319
Speaker 2: Well, she still cares about it, and they still went

727
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:57,799
through this extremely traumatic thing, and she's probably gonna be like, wow,

728
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,119
I didn't want my friend to get locked up or

729
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,119
you know, doing like she thinking back to what she

730
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,000
said in the house, she's like, well she said she

731
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,759
you know, didn't try to trick at him, yeah, and

732
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,759
yeah he got she got tricked and then she still

733
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:14,240
ended up there anyway, So I think she's gonna have

734
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:16,920
sympathy for her if she finds out. I don't know

735
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,480
how she would. I guess you could just find it,

736
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,559
she doesn't really, she could just find it from school.

737
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:21,920
I suppose but I don't know.

738
00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in an episode or two. I don't

739
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:26,279
think next week per se. I think there's still gonna

740
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,319
be a little residual being mad, and I bet it's

741
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:30,640
gonna be a little bits.

742
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,759
Speaker 2: Gonna be just locked up for an episode or two, just.

743
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: At least one episode, just for the scare, just for

744
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,559
the drama. I just think, like I said, lots of

745
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:40,000
things can mess with Lily in the asylum, I feel like,

746
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,000
right because that's the perfect place where she can act

747
00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:44,319
crazy and the doctors can just keep being like, well,

748
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:45,640
you're sick, and this is what you need to do.

749
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,519
Right where at school or home or the shop you

750
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,880
act crazy, But she's trying to deny and everyone's like

751
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,079
a little put off. This is there because even then,

752
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:55,359
when they opened the door right to send her in

753
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,279
the asylum and all the handlers are smiling, you can

754
00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:01,119
honestly say, okay, that's it, like that's penny wise, that's

755
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,880
it doing something. But you can also just say back

756
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,720
then that might be the idea that they want right there,

757
00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:07,160
portraying of like it's all safe here and you're all

758
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,640
gonna be happy here, because they're just kind of treating everybody.

759
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,279
This is back in the day where you know, people

760
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,240
that were schizophrenic were looked at this upon It's like

761
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:15,839
there was no help for them, right, they were just

762
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,839
kind of damaged goods. So I think that's the thing

763
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,039
where I think at least one episode Lily will be

764
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,559
locked in there. I could even see her just escaping

765
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:25,680
by herself and maybe her and Ronnie reunit. I don't

766
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,519
think it's out of the question Ronnie comes back, but

767
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,920
I think we have to see a little bit more

768
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,039
one episode. Little is gonna ye just gonna go through.

769
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: It fair enough. Yeah, it feels almost like this is

770
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,039
a you know, a classic trope of anything in including

771
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,960
the first Chapter one movie, where like all the kids

772
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,359
have a fight at some point and then they like

773
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,359
break up for a month or two and then they

774
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,920
kind of reconvene, and it feels like, wow, really early

775
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,519
that this split between them already happened. But that's why

776
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:51,440
I just felt like, Okay, maybe that's not gonna be

777
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
the big split, and like Ronnie's gonna pretty because Ronnie

778
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,880
doesn't really have anyone right now. I guess we assume, right,

779
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,720
so maybe I feel.

780
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: Like her Grandma's not not gonna be that helpful, you know.

781
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know her. Her grandma does not seem like

782
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:06,160
the best support figure to have for her here.

783
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike's his hot take so far. I like Lily

784
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:11,119
as a character more than any of the kids in

785
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:14,160
the movie. Wow, I think it's a hot take. I

786
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,200
do enjoy Lily. It's funny. Last week we were talking

787
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,519
about like as nice as possible. We felt like the

788
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:20,759
acting wasn't up to stuff with the group. I will

789
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,960
say I think that Lily and Ronnie are the standouts

790
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,319
for the actors, and I feel.

791
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,279
Speaker 2: Like that Ronnie this episode, for me, did a great job.

792
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I feel like that's why we kind of

793
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:32,240
lost some of the actors that were maybe just you know,

794
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,640
all right, they're still working on their their craft. Where

795
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,039
we kept the two best. But yeah, I can't agree

796
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:38,839
with you yet so far. Mike. Also, you haven't seen

797
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:41,480
the whole story. I'm a big Ben fan. I really

798
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,759
like Ben in the first movie and on the second movie,

799
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:49,480
and then I liked h I like Bev, and then

800
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,319
I like Richie for the comedic value. But I could

801
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,960
see being the Mount Rushmore spot when it's all said

802
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,160
and done, you know, you know, the Ford.

803
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,279
Speaker 2: Little Mount Rushmore. Yeah, I think if you're right that

804
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:04,640
we're that Lily is trapped in here for episode or two,

805
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,559
I think that's probably a pretty good opportunity for her

806
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:09,480
to do some good acting chops in there. I think

807
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,200
there'll be some good stuff going on there.

808
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about the scary scenarios? This week?

809
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,559
We got the aforementioned Lily in the grocery store and

810
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:19,240
she's being attacked by pickle jars.

811
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,039
Speaker 2: It looked like for you that you were hinting.

812
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: At definitely the mother one. That was to me that

813
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,440
was phenomena where she because first of the thing which

814
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640
is a fear again not clauser phobia, but the idea

815
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,759
of not being able to move when she's this thing

816
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,799
just wraps around her. But the darker rhetoric, God, I'm like,

817
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:39,119
oh my goodness, she's inside a belly. Now, I thought

818
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,119
that's all was gonna be right, But then when she

819
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,200
splits out and gets there, one still the bilical cord

820
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,200
is still attached to her. But then the chair looks

821
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,319
like it still looks like a chair, but then also

822
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:52,079
looks like a woman giving birth. So I loved like

823
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:54,680
the juxaposition there and then all this is just the

824
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:57,079
mom talking about, oh, you know you're the reason I'm dead,

825
00:33:57,079 --> 00:33:58,720
because I don't know if we learned that last week,

826
00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:01,240
but it looks like she died in child birth due

827
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,319
to giving birth to rownie. And then all that stuff

828
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:05,400
of her pulling the bilgal cord and hear him to

829
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,279
bite it off, and then she turned this big like

830
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,400
and then for a second you saw the dead lights

831
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,280
right with penny eyes that technically we did see penny

832
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,400
Wise tonight with the eyes right, we saw his eyes,

833
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,480
So that to me was even I'd have to think

834
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:20,159
about the movies, but that's like, I'll maybe that's my

835
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,599
hot take top three for like scares with these and

836
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,559
in the movies as well. I'd have to really think

837
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:26,519
about it. But it felt like one of the better

838
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:29,760
ones because it had a like a pure just dread too,

839
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,519
where the pick of Jar one was more I think grosser,

840
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,679
like like it was just kind of I don't know,

841
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,639
like I won't say comedic, but it had kind of

842
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,400
a comedy like coming up pop popkiss Papa like it's

843
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,320
which is fine because penny Wise does that right, but

844
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,840
this was fully like, oh this is messed up stuff

845
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,840
going on right now, you know.

846
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the bedroom one is one that were

847
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,400
I a bit younger and a bit more frightful as

848
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,559
I used to be, that would freak me the hell

849
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:54,519
out and I'd be scared to use my bed sheets

850
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:56,599
for like a few weeks at the time kind of thing,

851
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:58,360
because yeah, just like I mean, you you kind of

852
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,719
already set it up perfectly, but I don't think I've

853
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,320
ever seen that before. Of Okay, let's turn a woman's

854
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,880
womb into big nasty penny wise teeth. And then like

855
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:10,360
now the umbilical cord is just a rope a chain

856
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:14,480
pulling you back into this like garb Rainer pretty much

857
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:17,280
is a terrifying sight. And then just like the way

858
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:20,519
the mom's face is like hunched down and like kind

859
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:22,920
of covered in shadow, and then you know, just kind

860
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,760
of transforms as they usually do before she like pops

861
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,840
up fully in the classic like really creepy way that

862
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,320
the body just kind of gets into full height, which

863
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,199
is like just way bigger and more terrifying than you

864
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:35,920
could anticipate it to be. Like, yeah, that scene was

865
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:39,079
really really good, and that for me, like the Ronnie's

866
00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:41,320
acting there too, like the one point when she turns

867
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,239
around and is like clawing at the ground as she's

868
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,000
pulling herself away. Yeah, just excellent. So yeah, that one

869
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,000
definitely got me more because I don't know, not that

870
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:53,199
it was It's hard to call that more realistic than

871
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,320
the other scene, but I think just something about it

872
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,119
felt like, I don't know, a more immediate terror than

873
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,480
like I'm not gonna be anymore or full at a

874
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:03,360
grocery store, you know, after that over scene, but this

875
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,159
one it feels like, oh god, that is that is

876
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:07,519
a creepy thought that'll linger in my head a bit longer.

877
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: I think, do you think I feel like because which

878
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,360
is another thing that's good? That maybe they'll talk about

879
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,280
them in the future, which will bond them. They're both

880
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,760
parents that aren't around visiting them, right Ronnie with the

881
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,199
mom that she lost, and then with the dad. I

882
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:23,960
can't remember what happened with the dad. Did they explain

883
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,639
that last week with Lily's dad, I know he wasn't around,

884
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,400
but yeah, so I bet that we could. I don't

885
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,679
think this is the last time seeing the parental nightmares

886
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,039
and whatnot them overcoming, but I was think maybe that's

887
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:39,599
another thing they could bond over is the loss of parents,

888
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,400
and plus they could maybe that's another way where Lily

889
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,119
kind of understands that she could help more because she's

890
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:47,119
losing another dad. Where I don't know what they're gonna

891
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,480
do with Lily's mom so far, because she was very

892
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,079
dismissed with Ronnie, I like, hey, get out here, I'm

893
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:52,960
calling your grandma, and then she put her daughter back

894
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,679
in an institution. So I don't think I could see

895
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,159
you know, Ronnie's dad playing a role believing them or

896
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:02,519
trying to help someone another where I think Lily's mom

897
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:05,159
is not going to be that. So I do think

898
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:06,559
they could bond over that. And I do think we'll

899
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:11,119
see the parents again, probably in some more nightmarish individuals.

900
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:13,119
And plus I don't know if they're gonna win this,

901
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:14,679
because we've talked about this before right off, Like I

902
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,679
don't know, Like honestly, it sounds bad, But there could

903
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,280
be a situation where Lily this season ends and she's

904
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,920
in this asylum right like what I described of her

905
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,079
meeting someone that's had dealt with pennywise before, she could

906
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:28,880
be that where, you know, somewhere in twenty seven before

907
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,280
he said we never saw her, but there, you know,

908
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,239
she had that story because a lot of these I

909
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,639
just feel like Penny Wise kind of has to be

910
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,760
somewhat undefeated early on in these seasons, right, because I

911
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,880
feel like The Losers Club is first time where he's

912
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,840
kind of cocky and eric and and oh I didn't

913
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,679
I didn't win. So that's why he wants him back

914
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,079
as adults to kind of get revenge. Right, So, maybe

915
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:51,159
I don't think they're all gonna die, but I could

916
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:54,039
see Lily having a fate worse than death, I guess.

917
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,559
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's true. I mean, if these are characters

918
00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:00,920
that aren't connected to those movies in the way that

919
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,840
some of these other ones are that we've mentioned already,

920
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,199
like Mike's grandfother and whatnot, then yeah, yeah, I guess

921
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:09,760
like their fate is kind of gonna be sealed off here.

922
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,760
So we'll see what's going on.

923
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,079
Speaker 1: Dude.

924
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:15,679
Speaker 2: Do you feel like the Lily's mom was under Pennywise's

925
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,599
controller or is she truly just that cold and emotionless

926
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:20,400
and just such a shitty mom?

927
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: Uh TVD Because I thought at first the interaction with

928
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,480
Ronnie just kind of like, Okay, you're just a parent

929
00:38:26,519 --> 00:38:28,440
that you know, I'll see it's a different situation, but

930
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:30,519
maybe not handling the best. In the car ride, she

931
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:34,840
felt a little super cold. Yeah, so I'm I'm a

932
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,320
to be decided. It could be like Beverly's dad, right,

933
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,159
Like obviously Beverly's dad was a piece of shit abuser,

934
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,880
but so I don't know if Lilyman's an abuser, but

935
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,320
just maybe she's resentful of her daughter or something like that. Right,

936
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,239
So kind of like how you were, Dick, That's how

937
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,000
I'm with the Mum where I'm I got away and

938
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,039
see more because I think I had two scenes where

939
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,239
one looked like not the most caring mother and then

940
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,400
one looked like, oh, there's a clown on your shoulder

941
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:57,440
dancing around.

942
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: So and then Ronnie, Uh, there's that scene in there

943
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,159
when Penny Wise, through the mom's body, is saying like

944
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:09,440
you killed your mom and you're gonna kill your dad, yeah,

945
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,320
which is something that like even going back to chapter one,

946
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,199
like obviously there's this scene with Bowers when he goes

947
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,800
home and then like the TV he's like seeing you know,

948
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,239
flashes on the TV of like telling him kill him,

949
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,079
do it that kind of stuff. Yeah, I like do

950
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:23,880
you think that's gonna lead into something? Is just that

951
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,800
him going in her or is like in some way

952
00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:28,960
is she gonna like accidentally kill him, or like I

953
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,239
don't know, is there there is there is that foreshadow

954
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,199
or is that just you killed your mom and childbirth,

955
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:36,199
you're gonna kill your dad? Like is it just that

956
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,079
kind of one to one? Like I guess he could

957
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:40,679
even be seen as because I just thought of this

958
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:42,320
was right in the moment, like okay, well with her

959
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,840
bringing all the kids to the theater, that stuff happening,

960
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,880
of all the kids dying, and now the dad getting

961
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,760
framed for it, is he just gonna be like executed

962
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,440
or something like that, And that's what Yeah, that's what

963
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,400
Penny mis penny Wise meant in that moment.

964
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:56,119
Speaker 1: I think it will be that, or I think if

965
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:57,880
he kind of gets deeper in the mystery, he kind

966
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,840
of gets taken unfortunately, because I don't think it'll be

967
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,000
like Bowers were Bowers. I think is a little weak minded,

968
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,840
but then also kind of has like an evil nature

969
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,599
tomb So I feel like.

970
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: Sure, Ronnie going yes that hard down that round.

971
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I could just see it something like her

972
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:13,920
involving him and more of this clown stuff and that

973
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,159
kind of indirectly gets some killed or like you said,

974
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:17,519
could just be an execution. But I feel like he

975
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:20,239
has to get either for a little bit. But I

976
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,719
don't know how that worked in the sixties as far

977
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,960
as when you got a restcu is. Nowadays we know, Okay,

978
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,119
certain crimes you can be out of prison while you

979
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:29,360
wait for trial, certain ones you can't. Some of you

980
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,599
can pay a bail and get out. But I don't

981
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:34,679
know what it was like, especially in the sixties, being

982
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,320
you know, a black man, I don't think those laws

983
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,559
probably apply the same. But yeah, I if you were

984
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:42,039
to ask me the percentage on him making the season, like,

985
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,559
I think it's a low ten percent in my opinion.

986
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,039
You know, so odds aren't good for Ronnie's dad.

987
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,159
Speaker 2: The only thing maybe in his favor is that the

988
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,920
main cop share of guy, whoever it was obviously the

989
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,039
one that like tricked Lily, seems like he didn't He's

990
00:40:56,039 --> 00:40:58,079
not as recent as the others, like he didn't really

991
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,360
want to do this as much. I'm not I'm not

992
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,119
giving this guy a fault, like you know, he still

993
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:03,920
did thing, but I'm just saying he doesn't seem like

994
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,320
as dead set of like, oh, yeah, we have to

995
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,360
kill this guy, even if we're breaking the law, let's

996
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,519
just do it. He seems like maybe a slightly more reasonable.

997
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:12,800
He at least wants to have evidence and things like that,

998
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,159
So I don't know if anything, maybe maybe that helps

999
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,320
his case, but I could still see him going.

1000
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:19,639
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. But then when he had Dick

1001
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:21,519
and his friends kind of kicked out, I was like, Okay,

1002
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,440
now I'm not too sure about the cop anymore, right,

1003
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,920
because he's like, hey, what the bartender's name, kind of

1004
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,199
pointing them out, and that's like, let's get out of here, right,

1005
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,280
So I don't know.

1006
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't catch that was the same cop. Okay,

1007
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,440
I think it was.

1008
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the same time, they were like laughing, so

1009
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,199
I'm not sure if it was just he thought they

1010
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:37,920
were laughing at him, or he was just on a

1011
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,000
bad day. We'll have to see, but I think, yeah, like, yeah,

1012
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,159
I don't think he's as bad. I think he's saying, well,

1013
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:46,280
I don't know, I was gonna say, I don't think

1014
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,880
he's racist. He might just be like a crooked cop.

1015
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,159
But then, like I said, why would he get those

1016
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,519
bartender to kick out the guys, don'teah, So.

1017
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,159
Speaker 2: I think, see he's damned No, he's a bad guy.

1018
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, bad guy. I only have one more note.

1019
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:03,119
Speaker 2: Well, I guess we haven't really broke down the grocery

1020
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:06,599
store scene at right much yet, but I did like,

1021
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,480
I like this set piece. I think it's fun. I

1022
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:10,559
don't think it was super scary to me, probably because

1023
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:13,880
it's like daytime grocery store. I think it had some

1024
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,880
good editing and it was It was a fun scene,

1025
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,440
but I didn't find it like particularly scary scene, which

1026
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,480
is fine. They don't all have to be. But you

1027
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,760
kind of know where it's going to get to of

1028
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,880
just like getting trapped in these different aisles, alleyways, that

1029
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,000
kind of thing, and yeah, leading up to like this

1030
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,039
big pickle sequence which he smashes it, and then you

1031
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:35,400
get like a creepy octopus dad hybrid thing that's climbing

1032
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,800
up on or choking her out. You kind of know

1033
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,760
where the scene's gonna go. I guess I didn't really

1034
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,000
anticipate that. I guess I didn't see Lily going back

1035
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:46,480
to the insane as sound like that early kind of thing,

1036
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:49,119
So I guess it's maybe the result of that surprised

1037
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:50,639
me a bit, but overall it was still it was

1038
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:51,840
still a fun set piece.

1039
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I liked it. It was I think cgi

1040
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:58,199
was pretty good. There's a couple iffy spots, but I

1041
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,639
like the creature that turned into where the head that's

1042
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:03,320
like all sliced, you have the tentacles, And what I

1043
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,519
really liked his little detail is they had a hand

1044
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,519
behind the head like holding it all together, like holding

1045
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:10,760
it up so wouldn't fall apart. So no, I thought

1046
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,679
that was I thought that was good. And the one

1047
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,679
moment I liked too that even though they did this

1048
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,960
throughout the whole scene the very first time and she

1049
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:19,599
walked in, in the background, you can see one of

1050
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:22,199
the workers just staring her down and eventually were staring

1051
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:24,559
and following her. But the second she opened that grocery

1052
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:27,559
store in the peripherial, you can see someone already just

1053
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:29,519
reay to, you know, mess with them and stuff, which

1054
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:31,400
which I appreciate. It's a good build up. So no,

1055
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:32,800
I like that one. I think it's tough because it

1056
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,639
wasn't as good as the other one, but it's still uh,

1057
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,000
it's still held up, And I liked the creativeness of

1058
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:40,440
whatever this monster was, so mm hmm.

1059
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:44,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. My last note was just another interesting observation

1060
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:47,800
from watching it chapter two again is there's that's the

1061
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:50,239
din of the dinner scene when the crew is all

1062
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,599
hanging out together, open up their their fortune cookies, and

1063
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:56,480
the fortune cookies start like oozing and then these little

1064
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:59,800
little creepy little birds, little bugs with baby faces on

1065
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,760
the start breaking out and like flying around the room

1066
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,000
and stuff. And yeah, I think I just totally forgot

1067
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,760
about that scene. So it kind of just reminded me

1068
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,599
of how much the baby, the weird baby hybrid creatures

1069
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:12,360
that we had in chapter or in the first episode

1070
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,679
last week felt very similar to that. So I guess

1071
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,159
that is kind of like a recurring theme of Pennywise

1072
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,280
likes to make creatures like Baby's hybrid with other things,

1073
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,639
and so yeah, I thought that was a fun just

1074
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:25,199
I totally forgot about that scene, so it was a

1075
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,559
fun little connection point as well.

1076
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that scene a lot.

1077
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:34,920
Mike says, uh, but they but they mentioned the reason

1078
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,760
the major was resistant of fears because the damage all

1079
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:46,320
in Doulata, right, was it the Doulata in combat. Yeah,

1080
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,719
you're right, Mike, So that is another another reason. So

1081
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:49,679
I guess the test was just.

1082
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:51,199
Speaker 2: A purely rare injury.

1083
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: They said, extremely rare injury that fear goes away. And

1084
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,599
then I guess the test was just to see if

1085
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:58,480
he was still like had his stuff, like he's with it,

1086
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:00,360
you know, like still a smart guy, and think, so,

1087
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,320
all right, that's fairy. I'll give them that that that

1088
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,679
that's more a better jump than just he's you know,

1089
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,000
constent of the racists. You know, I'm not saying that's

1090
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:09,599
not a proud thing that is, but like you know

1091
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,440
that versus potential supernatural being that they're using, of course

1092
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,199
to fight the Cold War. You know, it's just I guess,

1093
00:45:18,199 --> 00:45:19,719
like what would be their idea. I guess to scoop

1094
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,719
it up, shoot it into wherever they want to go

1095
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,639
into Russia and then scare everyone to death. I guess.

1096
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I have to workshop that one

1097
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,559
a bit.

1098
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always tough, right, because like I remember, I

1099
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:34,199
can't remember if you've seen this movie, is that movie

1100
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:37,199
with Miles Taylor and Your Tear Joy or this year

1101
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,119
I think it's called The Gorge or whatever something like that,

1102
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,519
and it's I don't think you're gonna And that's a

1103
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:44,920
big thing where it's like, what's what's down there, It's like, oh,

1104
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,360
something the government's creating. They're creating a weapon. It's that's

1105
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,480
where it's like, I'm giving this more leeway because it's

1106
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:52,760
not the only plot line of the show. But I

1107
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,079
do think i'm kind of and I will blame a

1108
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:57,239
lot of superhero stuff right because I feel like Marvel

1109
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,760
and DC have spanned the whole The government's trying to

1110
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,960
use this as a weapon, but that's like a trope.

1111
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,079
I really need to take a break for a little.

1112
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,159
Speaker 2: A few years. You know, people on the left who

1113
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:11,079
are very anti government in the last few years as well.

1114
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:13,519
So I think that drafts for people writing the end

1115
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:14,280
of their TV show.

1116
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it. It's just I'm just so

1117
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,360
I'm done with like what's going on, well the government

1118
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,280
wants to use and like even right now, I think

1119
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:24,079
I forgot because I'm rewatching it. And that's fine because

1120
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:26,559
this was almost a decade ago about even stranger things.

1121
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:29,039
That's like the whole starter. That's all right, Like they

1122
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:30,480
find the upside down, Like what are they doing they

1123
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:32,719
want to be a weapons like yeah, right, Like I

1124
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,840
just yeah, we're definitely there. All I was gonna ask,

1125
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,039
And I don't know if you even saw this, because

1126
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:40,960
I feel like sometimes you are a natural skipper of them.

1127
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,119
But did you watch the new opening credits we got

1128
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:43,679
at all here?

1129
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,559
Speaker 2: I did, because the first episode didn't have it right.

1130
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:49,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had that the binky go into the

1131
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,079
water and it went to the it sewer thing right,

1132
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,159
which makes sense because you couldn't do that every week

1133
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:56,360
of just show the same sewer, even though I liked

1134
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,719
the animation of it. And then I went to the

1135
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,840
Welcomed Airy and I thought this was fun. You're seeing

1136
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,000
the different I like, it was all like images that

1137
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:04,519
you would see from the sixties of like happy images,

1138
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:06,760
and then something's off of them back. I don't know why.

1139
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,559
There's an image of Pennywise jumping from the window with

1140
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:13,559
a gun. That was quite something, but I'll see if

1141
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:16,639
I could pull it off. It was weird, but I

1142
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,360
liked him. I don't know if I'd be watched them

1143
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,039
every time stuff like that, but I thought it was

1144
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:24,639
a fun twist on usual dairy. It like, oh, this

1145
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,719
is really nice. But something's off here, you know.

1146
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the cheery music mixed with fucked up

1147
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,800
imagery is a great combo always because you can take

1148
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,360
a song and then you start overthinking the lyrics of like, oh,

1149
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,519
what is this song actually about? And sometimes it's not

1150
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:41,320
actually about anything sinister, but you're just kind of recontextualizing everything.

1151
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,800
So yeah, I liked it. It was. It was quite nice.

1152
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: It reminds me of like Fallout stuff as well, too,

1153
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,679
like when they're talking and involved and they'll be telling

1154
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,400
you the worst information, like and your knees will explode.

1155
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: If you use this, but it's kind of propaganda angle ty.

1156
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is what it was, is uh,

1157
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:58,360
I guess because it's kind of like invoking me like

1158
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,400
the maw like criminal era, like mobs or everything. But

1159
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,360
it's it's an odd choice. I really hope it's not

1160
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,519
like AI or something like that.

1161
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:06,679
Speaker 2: It's very call of duty of just like diving out

1162
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,159
of a building shooting your gun.

1163
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got it. They missed an opportunity to have

1164
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,840
this as a skin this month, you know, or last

1165
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:13,239
month of.

1166
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 2: October, life sized Chucky. They should have thrown Pennywise in.

1167
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: There exactly, so anything else, don't.

1168
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: No, I think that's all.

1169
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: No, that's good for me too. So yeah, we'll be

1170
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,840
back next week. We'll see what happens to you, what

1171
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,280
Taylor thinks, and yeah, but we've got a few, not

1172
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,719
a few more weeks. We got still how many other weeks?

1173
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,719
But it feels off because we've got another yeah, a

1174
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,599
couple of months into December. But yeah, we'll be back

1175
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:37,480
next week to talk about this, and I promise it

1176
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:38,519
will not be boring.

1177
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: Good Night,