WEBVTT

1
00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Eight thirty seven come up in a thirty eight here

2
00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:09.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty five KRCD talk station Brian Thomas with one of

3
00:00:09.199 --> 00:00:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the good doctors from OHC my cancer doctors. Yes, I'm

4
00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:15.080
<v Speaker 1>getting my CT scan today and keep my fingers crossed

5
00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:18.440
<v Speaker 1>because I've got low spectrum lymphoma. But today we're gonna

6
00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:20.600
<v Speaker 1>be talking about head and net cancer. Why because it's

7
00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Head and net Cancer Month in studio to talk about that,

8
00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:26.839
<v Speaker 1>doctor Joseph Shaughnessy. And just so you know, because you're

9
00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:29.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna want to get the number down, it's ohcare dot

10
00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:32.840
<v Speaker 1>com online, ohcare dot com eight eight eight six four

11
00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:36.640
<v Speaker 1>nine hundred for initial consultation for second opinion. To be

12
00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:38.920
<v Speaker 1>glad you're talking to them. They're outstanding doctors. Welcome to

13
00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the morning show, doctor Joseph, Joseph Shaughnessy. It's a pleasure

14
00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:42.479
<v Speaker 1>to have you here.

15
00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having me.

16
00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

17
00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:48.799
<v Speaker 1>And you've got a well let's see here proof positive

18
00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:53.200
<v Speaker 1>in my hands. Uh radiation on colleges with interest including

19
00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:56.799
<v Speaker 1>breast cancer, head and net cancer, lung cancer, prostate cancer,

20
00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:00.320
<v Speaker 1>gastro intestinal cancer, and skin cancer. Broad field of of

21
00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:02.479
<v Speaker 1>work you do there, doctor.

22
00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:04.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's kind of the nature of what I do

23
00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:08.400
<v Speaker 2>out in the community. You know, see a broad spectrum

24
00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:12.079
<v Speaker 2>of cases, and yeah, that's just kind of the nature

25
00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:13.719
<v Speaker 2>of our day to day operation.

26
00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:14.400
<v Speaker 3>All right.

27
00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Let us initially establish what exactly is head and neck cancer.

28
00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.200
<v Speaker 1>What comprises head and neck cancer.

29
00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:25.719
<v Speaker 2>It's basically any cancer that starts above the clavicles. So

30
00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:28.319
<v Speaker 2>any cancer that arises in the head and neck region

31
00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:31.040
<v Speaker 2>outside of the brain, in the eye, those are normally

32
00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:33.359
<v Speaker 2>not included in this group of cancers. So that could

33
00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:37.200
<v Speaker 2>be a tonsil cancer, the back of the throat they

34
00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.000
<v Speaker 2>call it, the base of tongue, anywhere in the mouth

35
00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:42.239
<v Speaker 2>region or the gums, the voice box otherwise known as

36
00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.719
<v Speaker 2>the larynx. It can include the thyroid, and then even

37
00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:47.799
<v Speaker 2>skin cancers in the head and neck region. And then

38
00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:50.560
<v Speaker 2>there's some other rare cancers like the nasal passages or

39
00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:52.159
<v Speaker 2>the nasopharynx.

40
00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I just had to dwell us briefly, skin cancer in

41
00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:57.239
<v Speaker 1>the head and neck region that will be exterior on

42
00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.480
<v Speaker 1>your neck. That would still fall into your area of

43
00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:01.079
<v Speaker 1>practice or head and neck cancer.

44
00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, Okay, And then you know it can start

45
00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:05.920
<v Speaker 2>in the head and neck area on the external scan,

46
00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.560
<v Speaker 2>and then it could involve the lymph nodes underneath.

47
00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Or fair enough, fair enough because be pasty Northern European

48
00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:13.719
<v Speaker 1>descentate white guy that's had multiple severe burns when he

49
00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.879
<v Speaker 1>was a child. I have a regular standing visit with

50
00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a dermatologist annually because dad had a lot of removals.

51
00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:23.479
<v Speaker 3>Over the years. He spent a lot of time outside.

52
00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:25.360
<v Speaker 3>So just a little fun advice.

53
00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:27.520
<v Speaker 1>If you want to get at an appointment with a dermatologist,

54
00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:29.919
<v Speaker 1>then you might fuck you find yourself fall into that category.

55
00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Not to speak out of turn, doctor scheduled appointment now,

56
00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:34.840
<v Speaker 1>because it's going to be a long time before you

57
00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:37.000
<v Speaker 1>can get in with the dermatologist.

58
00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

59
00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Often, I know, I know, it's crazy, it's just crazy. Anyway.

60
00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:48.199
<v Speaker 1>Is any one of those various cancers you talked about

61
00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:51.520
<v Speaker 1>within the head and neck cancer room more predominant than others,

62
00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like a softie deal cancer or the larynx.

63
00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Or I would say, so there's this category called the oropharynx,

64
00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:01.879
<v Speaker 2>that's the tonsils and the back of the tongue. That

65
00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.680
<v Speaker 2>is probably the most common side of origin, and then

66
00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:09.639
<v Speaker 2>second behind that is probably the voice box. Dirog cancer

67
00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:11.759
<v Speaker 2>is also a very common cancer, but that's kind of

68
00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.479
<v Speaker 2>in its own group. And not kind of really often

69
00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:16.520
<v Speaker 2>the focus when they're talking about having net cancer, but

70
00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:18.639
<v Speaker 2>it is grouped into that otory as well.

71
00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Do these cancers that you went down thyroid do they

72
00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:28.319
<v Speaker 1>carry with themselves different like risk factors like I've read

73
00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and I'm state in the obvious, I think most people

74
00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:35.680
<v Speaker 1>are paying attention. Smoking, of course, and alcohol consumption can

75
00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:38.400
<v Speaker 1>also lead to throat cancers.

76
00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:38.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

77
00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you hit the nail on the head there. Alcohol

78
00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:47.439
<v Speaker 2>and various forms of tobacco exposure probably in some way,

79
00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:50.280
<v Speaker 2>shape or form, account for seventy to seventy five percent

80
00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:55.039
<v Speaker 2>of these cancers. So yeah, those are a both very

81
00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:59.080
<v Speaker 2>well known risk factors and both modifiable risk factors. And

82
00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:02.400
<v Speaker 2>it's also in a note you know, if you partaken

83
00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:07.240
<v Speaker 2>those things, cutting back or abstinence altogether can still markedly

84
00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.400
<v Speaker 2>reduce your risk of cancer in the long term. So

85
00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:12.560
<v Speaker 2>it's not like the damage is already done. Some people think, Okay,

86
00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I smoked my whole life, or I've been drinking excessively

87
00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:19.120
<v Speaker 2>for a long time. You know, I've already assigned myself

88
00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:21.560
<v Speaker 2>that permanent risk factor. If you can, if you can

89
00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:23.399
<v Speaker 2>scale back, you can reduce.

90
00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.920
<v Speaker 1>You It's never too late to quit exactly right. It's

91
00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:31.279
<v Speaker 1>never too late to convert salvation. Maybe around the corner

92
00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:33.199
<v Speaker 1>you maybe it'll avoid this type of thing. Well, how

93
00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.759
<v Speaker 1>about infections.

94
00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's the other big kind of driver of

95
00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:44.079
<v Speaker 2>these cancers. HPV infection. That's short for human papaloma virus.

96
00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:48.240
<v Speaker 2>It's a family of viruses. They're very common. They cause

97
00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.360
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of things from like run of the mill warts,

98
00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:54.920
<v Speaker 2>but there are a few more serious types such as

99
00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:56.079
<v Speaker 2>HPV sixteen.

100
00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:59.959
<v Speaker 4>Oh and you know these these they like COVID nineteen

101
00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.720
<v Speaker 4>except HPV form no.

102
00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:04.959
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, when they discover these viruses, they

103
00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.279
<v Speaker 2>just assign a number to them, kind of in order

104
00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:11.439
<v Speaker 2>of when they discover them. But it most people, it's

105
00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:12.560
<v Speaker 2>still a very common virus.

106
00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Most everybody's got it.

107
00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, most people have been exposed in some way, shape

108
00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:18.759
<v Speaker 2>or form, and then your body just gets rid of

109
00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:21.040
<v Speaker 2>it and it's not an issue and then it's just gone.

110
00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:24.800
<v Speaker 2>But a very small percentage of people don't clear it,

111
00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.279
<v Speaker 2>and it kind of festers and it can cause kind

112
00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:31.279
<v Speaker 2>of chronic inflammation and eventually cause a regular cell division

113
00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:32.439
<v Speaker 2>and then it causes the cancer.

114
00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:35.839
<v Speaker 1>So it acts in the same way HPV acts on

115
00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:39.639
<v Speaker 1>cervical cancer if you have HPV or servial cancer is

116
00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:43.800
<v Speaker 1>quite often, if not predominantly, caused by an HPV infection exactly.

117
00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:46.839
<v Speaker 2>That's it's the exact same mechanism. It's the same family,

118
00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it's the same virus as even the same high risk

119
00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:53.040
<v Speaker 2>HPV forms that cause cervical cancer can cause head in

120
00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:53.480
<v Speaker 2>neck cancers.

121
00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And not to get too graphic or specific, but

122
00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.759
<v Speaker 1>the mechanism by which one might contract HV and end

123
00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:06.120
<v Speaker 1>up with throat cancer sort of acts in the same

124
00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:09.560
<v Speaker 1>way as you get it when you end up contracting

125
00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:10.439
<v Speaker 1>cervical cancer.

126
00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:15.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, okay, direct contact and mouth and yeah right, okay,

127
00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:17.040
<v Speaker 4>So it's a sexually transmitted virus.

128
00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a sexually transmitted virus, Okay, regardless where it lands up.

129
00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:23.040
<v Speaker 1>That's the that's the point of it, all right, Oh,

130
00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:26.079
<v Speaker 1>of established that clear it up, that little bit of math. Now,

131
00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:29.800
<v Speaker 1>this other one, this HPV sixteen, I've never heard of that.

132
00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Now I've heard of you know, home h people. There's

133
00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.319
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole multitude of these HPV viruses out there,

134
00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:38.199
<v Speaker 1>and some of them can, like you said, can cause

135
00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:41.079
<v Speaker 1>warts like genital warts or I guess same thing that

136
00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:42.279
<v Speaker 1>happens in your throat.

137
00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or even just the HPV viruses can cause skin

138
00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:48.199
<v Speaker 2>worts too. I mean there's so it's a whole spectrum

139
00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:50.480
<v Speaker 2>of these viruses.

140
00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and since most people have it, I mean, if

141
00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you're sexually active at all, I guess the statistics are

142
00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:59.319
<v Speaker 1>that you probably have at least or at least had

143
00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:01.199
<v Speaker 1>HPV infection.

144
00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think I've seen that if you're

145
00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.759
<v Speaker 2>sexually active at all, there's over fifty percent chance that

146
00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:10.399
<v Speaker 2>you've had some sort of exposure to one of these types.

147
00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:15.519
<v Speaker 1>All right, how about oral, fair and genial cancers that's

148
00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:17.879
<v Speaker 1>caused by HPV as well, because because you say, the

149
00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:19.560
<v Speaker 1>notes suggest that they're on the rise.

150
00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that is that group of cancers that like

151
00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.240
<v Speaker 2>the tonsil in the back of the tongue, those are

152
00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.240
<v Speaker 2>grouped under the that's a part of your body called

153
00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:32.279
<v Speaker 2>the oropharynx. And yeah, smoking and alcohol related cancers have

154
00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:36.720
<v Speaker 2>been diminishing over time. People are engaging in more generally

155
00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:40.680
<v Speaker 2>responsible behavior and moderation. But these HPV related cancers have

156
00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:44.639
<v Speaker 2>been increasing over time because these viruses are just so

157
00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:49.800
<v Speaker 2>widespread now and exposure is so common. And yeah, the oropharynx.

158
00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Is that subset of head and neck cancers that tends

159
00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:54.439
<v Speaker 2>to manifest these cancers?

160
00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:56.000
<v Speaker 3>All right, well it's pauses eight forty five.

161
00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:59.040
<v Speaker 1>We'll continue with doctor Joseph Shaughnessy from OHC again online

162
00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:03.000
<v Speaker 1>in oh hair dot com eight at eight sixty eight hundred.

163
00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.079
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get some other risk factors, typical symptoms. Uh,

164
00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:08.839
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about screening a little bit and hopefully

165
00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.560
<v Speaker 1>can they be cured? He'll answer that question as well.

166
00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Don't go way.

167
00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:16.480
<v Speaker 3>A forty eight Pigbouck CARECB talk station.

168
00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:21.800
<v Speaker 1>OHHC my cancer doctors, ohcare dot coms where you find

169
00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.040
<v Speaker 1>them on line eighty eight six ft eight hundred in

170
00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:27.360
<v Speaker 1>studio doctor Joseph Shaughnessy, who's a head of net cancer

171
00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:30.079
<v Speaker 1>specialists among others. He's a whole litany of cancer specialist.

172
00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.559
<v Speaker 1>But we're talking about head and net cancer and when

173
00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.000
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about HPV, I asked about the vaccine and

174
00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:40.639
<v Speaker 1>it was a definite Yes, men and women can get

175
00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the HPV vaccine in order to try and stave off this.

176
00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Right.

177
00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean the HPV vaccine is essentially a cancer

178
00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:53.279
<v Speaker 2>prevention vaccine. It is targeted against the high risk forms

179
00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:56.080
<v Speaker 2>of HPV, not just sixteen. They include a bunch of

180
00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.360
<v Speaker 2>different variations of it sixteen, eighteen, thirty one, thirty three,

181
00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.399
<v Speaker 2>and all these different forms that have been shown to

182
00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:07.559
<v Speaker 2>be high risk. It can prevent infection and in turn

183
00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.639
<v Speaker 2>can lower your risk of these HPV related cancers significantly.

184
00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:12.919
<v Speaker 1>All right, now, I'm going on the side of I

185
00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:15.559
<v Speaker 1>don't care where you are with RFK Junior, I would

186
00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:17.600
<v Speaker 1>recommend getting that one. All right, What are the other

187
00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:21.559
<v Speaker 1>risk factors which which might cause head and neck cancers?

188
00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Generally we've touched on on really the main ones. Yeah,

189
00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, there are other certain environmental exposures,

190
00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:34.480
<v Speaker 2>certain kind of chemicals and substances, certain industrial exposures out there.

191
00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a very small percentage of cancers related

192
00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:40.360
<v Speaker 2>to that, but there can be you know, just oral hygiene.

193
00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.360
<v Speaker 2>If your mouth is in bad shape and you don't

194
00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.120
<v Speaker 2>take good care of it and you just have chronic

195
00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:49.360
<v Speaker 2>inflammation in there from bad teeth, et cetera. You know,

196
00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:50.960
<v Speaker 2>that can be a risk factor.

197
00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:53.679
<v Speaker 1>That should not happen to anybody in my listening audience.

198
00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:57.279
<v Speaker 1>You got doctors Peck and Frew. They're great doctors. They're

199
00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:01.240
<v Speaker 1>dennis to take care of you. Any genetic risk very little.

200
00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's not any short answer, is now?

201
00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:06.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

202
00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Cutting to the chase. What do people need to be

203
00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:11.600
<v Speaker 1>looking for in terms of the typical symptoms, because you know,

204
00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you get people freaked out of it, like, oh my god,

205
00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:17.240
<v Speaker 1>it is what happening now? Is this related to throat

206
00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:19.279
<v Speaker 1>cancer or something? What are the symptoms?

207
00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's tricky. There's a whole wide spectrum of

208
00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.960
<v Speaker 2>possible symptoms. I mean, what you're really looking out for

209
00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:29.639
<v Speaker 2>is something that is new and different for you and

210
00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:32.759
<v Speaker 2>it's not going away. I mean this can include like

211
00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:35.240
<v Speaker 2>a sore throat that's hanging around. Most sore throats are

212
00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.759
<v Speaker 2>not cancer related, but if you have a sore throat

213
00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:42.120
<v Speaker 2>that's persisting despite you giving it some time and some treatment,

214
00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:45.000
<v Speaker 2>that's something to get checked out. There can be wider

215
00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:47.759
<v Speaker 2>red patches in the mouth or throat that won't go away,

216
00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:51.360
<v Speaker 2>or you know, other gross or ulcers in that area.

217
00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:54.799
<v Speaker 2>If you have a change in your voice, like hoarseness

218
00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:57.840
<v Speaker 2>or a muffled voice, that could be a sign of

219
00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:01.720
<v Speaker 2>something going on. A new neck lump that won't go away,

220
00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:06.399
<v Speaker 2>difficulty swallowing, difficulty chewing, numbness or weakness in your face,

221
00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.960
<v Speaker 2>or you know, bleeding from your nose or mouth, that

222
00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.480
<v Speaker 2>it's more than just a once or twice off deal.

223
00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's important to note that not all these

224
00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:17.639
<v Speaker 2>things mean you have cancer.

225
00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why next you can go to your primary

226
00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:23.840
<v Speaker 1>care physician sort of add an outset and talk to that.

227
00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:25.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to call oh if I have a

228
00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:28.440
<v Speaker 1>sinus infection that doesn't clear up with antibiotics immediately.

229
00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, your primary care team is your first line that

230
00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.960
<v Speaker 2>you know. They're well versed in managing these issues, and

231
00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.120
<v Speaker 2>they're very well versed and knowing when to escalate beyond

232
00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:42.120
<v Speaker 2>just conventional stuff like antibiotics or given it a little

233
00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:42.679
<v Speaker 2>extra time.

234
00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:45.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, So we've talked at we were talked at

235
00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:51.159
<v Speaker 1>length about the lifestyles and screening. So what about the treatability.

236
00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:54.360
<v Speaker 1>How treatable are these is it?

237
00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Can they metastasize?

238
00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess early detection is always usually really

239
00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:01.039
<v Speaker 1>the key to getting in front of it and being

240
00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:02.960
<v Speaker 1>we have to have a greater likelihood of success. But

241
00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:05.279
<v Speaker 1>what's going on in the area of treatments and do

242
00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:07.360
<v Speaker 1>people still have hope if they get diagnosed.

243
00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So these cancers are very often absolutely curable, and

244
00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:16.000
<v Speaker 2>as you touched on, early detection and early intervention can

245
00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:20.000
<v Speaker 2>really tilt the scales in your favor. You know, if

246
00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.399
<v Speaker 2>it has spread outside the head and neck region, at

247
00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:25.080
<v Speaker 2>that point in time, it's more about controlling the disease

248
00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:27.799
<v Speaker 2>rather than cure. But the first thing we're thinking when

249
00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.159
<v Speaker 2>we look at any of these cancer cases is hey,

250
00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:30.679
<v Speaker 2>how can.

251
00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:31.440
<v Speaker 3>We get to cure here?

252
00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:33.320
<v Speaker 2>And there's a variety of tools that we have to

253
00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:33.639
<v Speaker 2>get to that.

254
00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Clinical trials going on for any of these types of cancers.

255
00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you know, we're always trying to get better, find

256
00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:47.080
<v Speaker 2>new things, refine our treatment algorithms. I mean, one of

257
00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:49.399
<v Speaker 2>the big pushes in some of these clinical trials is

258
00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:54.759
<v Speaker 2>actually sometimes de intensification of treatment. Sometimes these treatments when

259
00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.279
<v Speaker 2>you're doing surgery or chemote therapy can be quite intense,

260
00:12:58.320 --> 00:12:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and we want to find that sweet spot where we're

261
00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.679
<v Speaker 2>we're maintaining high cure rates but giving people as little

262
00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:05.360
<v Speaker 2>side effects as possible.

263
00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, piling on the incentives for lifestyle changes. While you

264
00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:10.840
<v Speaker 1>may not be able to avoid getting an HPV infection

265
00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.159
<v Speaker 1>in these worlds, in this world that we currently live,

266
00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:17.879
<v Speaker 1>in I see that patients with HPV induced or oral

267
00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:23.879
<v Speaker 1>faaryngeal cancer have a very high survival rate over five years.

268
00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you know, we do a great job with

269
00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.159
<v Speaker 2>these HPV related cancers. I mean a lot of scary

270
00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:32.720
<v Speaker 2>talk about how you know these viruses are out there.

271
00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.799
<v Speaker 2>People are getting these cancers. Often it can be you know,

272
00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.039
<v Speaker 2>younger patients getting these cancers. But the good news is

273
00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:41.840
<v Speaker 2>is that the cure rates, Yeah, can be around eighty

274
00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:44.440
<v Speaker 2>five ninety percent, even if it's already spread to the

275
00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:47.399
<v Speaker 2>lymph nodes in the neck regions, still very high cur rate.

276
00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:50.879
<v Speaker 1>Well, that is very positive information. But again piling on

277
00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the lifestyle changes, tell my listeners about the population that

278
00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:58.960
<v Speaker 1>have some smoking slash drinking related.

279
00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean unfortunate only they just don't do as well.

280
00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Those are more stubborn, tricky cancers that can be treatment resistant.

281
00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:09.799
<v Speaker 2>And also you know the effects of smoking and drinking

282
00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.200
<v Speaker 2>for decades can make your body less able to tolerate

283
00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.320
<v Speaker 2>treatment well. And so the combination of all those factors

284
00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.879
<v Speaker 2>can I mean those cancers have a cure rate. I

285
00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:20.600
<v Speaker 2>mean often it can be under fifty percent.

286
00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Stuff.

287
00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:24.720
<v Speaker 1>You need to know, folks, And if you need a

288
00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:26.759
<v Speaker 1>second opinion, you've already been diagnosed. Get in touch with

289
00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.799
<v Speaker 1>OHC at eight eight eight six hundred. Of course, if

290
00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:31.600
<v Speaker 1>your doctor's suggests you need to be referred to a

291
00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:34.399
<v Speaker 1>cancer physician. I'm glad that I had a dear friend

292
00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:36.240
<v Speaker 1>of mine refer me to OHC. I've been at their

293
00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:40.279
<v Speaker 1>great care for years now and I strongly recommend them

294
00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:43.320
<v Speaker 1>as well as just from an independent person who's been

295
00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:47.080
<v Speaker 1>through that experience. Ohcare dot com is where you can

296
00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:50.240
<v Speaker 1>learn more. Doctor Shaughnessy, it's been a real pressure talking

297
00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to you this morning. Thanks for all the great work

298
00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:54.240
<v Speaker 1>you do and keep it up and I will again

299
00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:55.919
<v Speaker 1>encourage my listeners to get in touch with you and

300
00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:57.039
<v Speaker 1>related to cancer things.

301
00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for having me.

302
00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.279
<v Speaker 1>My pleasure is all mine. Twenty five folks. Peter Brownson

303
00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.399
<v Speaker 1>was in studio full hour Man. It's the twenty fourth

304
00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:06.120
<v Speaker 1>anniversary of the Cincinnati Riots, and we did a deep

305
00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:10.440
<v Speaker 1>dive into that The reality is certainly different than what

306
00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:12.240
<v Speaker 1>was presented in the newspaper. That's be sure you can

307
00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:13.720
<v Speaker 1>get a copy of his book Behind the Lines, The

308
00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.759
<v Speaker 1>un Told Stories of the Cincinnati Riots. Did the inside

309
00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:19.399
<v Speaker 1>scoop with the bright Bart news log in tonight Empower

310
00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Youamerica dot org and hear from Oliver Lane to London

311
00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Bureau Chief on what's happening in Europe, this sort of

312
00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:28.240
<v Speaker 1>populism rise that also seems to be taking place here.

313
00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:30.799
<v Speaker 1>He'll be doing a deep dive into that. Didn't get

314
00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the deep dive with Daniel Davis, but you also have

315
00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the information from OAHC fifty five KC dot Comy's ryheartmedia software.

316
00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:39.840
<v Speaker 1>While you're there the app tune in tomorrow Judge Inn

317
00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and of Politano Congressman Thomas Messy. Just scratching the surface.

318
00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Great guests lined up for tomorrow. Sean McMahon, thank you

319
00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.080
<v Speaker 1>for producing the program this morning. You always do a

320
00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.240
<v Speaker 1>great job. Folks, stick around. Glenbeck's coming right up.