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<v Speaker 1>I've noticed a lot of people, including a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people you'd otherwise sort of classify as of the right,

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<v Speaker 1>getting frustrated at Elon Musk and the role he seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be playing within the Trump administration in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>his Department of Government Efficiency, which seems to be a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of ad hoc kind of presidential created entity. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>he seems to be serving in a role as a

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<v Speaker 1>presidential advisor, a kind of presidential policy advisor. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>got an office set up sort of within the White

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<v Speaker 1>House complex. He's got a staff that he's been able

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<v Speaker 1>to recruit, and he seems to be just going through

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<v Speaker 1>federal expenditures to try to identify waste. And everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>freaking out about this, and I think actually his explanation

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<v Speaker 1>of why people are freaking out about it makes sense. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>what he said is, you know, in other companies and

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<v Speaker 1>places where he's worked, when you go through wasteful spending

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<v Speaker 1>and you identify people benefiting from wasteful spending in a

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<v Speaker 1>gravy train, those are the people who are going to

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<v Speaker 1>scream and.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout the most.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think of all things, his identification of the

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<v Speaker 1>us Aid Agency, Usaid Agency and it's funding of various

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things all over the world seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>really touched a nerve on the left because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of their gravy train for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of liberal social causes. He Musk's thesis is basically, once

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<v Speaker 1>you identify the source of people's gravy train, you cut

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<v Speaker 1>that off. That makes the people who are wasting the

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<v Speaker 1>money the most angry, and you're going to get the

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<v Speaker 1>most screams in how in Wales. But what I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of people yelling, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>on the left yelling Elon Musk wasn't elected. This unelected

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<v Speaker 1>person is just flying in and making all of these

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<v Speaker 1>spending cuts blah.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to talk about it and just

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<v Speaker 1>within kind of the theory of how our governance is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to work. So, first of all, this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk is unelected and therefore his role is somehow illegitimate.

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty of people in the executive branch aren't elected. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>all but two of them are unelected. Literally, the only

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<v Speaker 1>two people in the executive branch who are elected are

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<v Speaker 1>the President and the Vice President.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it, end of list.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody else who works for the executive branch is elected

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody else within the executive branch has any authority

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<v Speaker 1>in and of themselves. Let me repeat that, nobody in

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<v Speaker 1>the executive branch has any authority in and of themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Within the theoretical structure of how.

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<v Speaker 1>Article two of the Constitution works, the executive power of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States is vested in a president.

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<v Speaker 2>Full stop.

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<v Speaker 1>The President is the person charged with enforcing the law.

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<v Speaker 1>All the other executive agencies use his delegated power to

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<v Speaker 1>exercise and enforce the law. Marco Rubio, as Secretary of State,

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<v Speaker 1>has no inherent power of his own. There's nothing inherently

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<v Speaker 1>for him to do within the structure of the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Secretary of State is even mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>in the Constitution other than I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>amendments deals with like the line of succession. But Marco

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<v Speaker 1>Rubio doesn't have any inherent power. His only power is

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<v Speaker 1>to do what Donald Trump tells him to do. Anything

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<v Speaker 1>he does as Secretary of State is an extension of

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<v Speaker 1>the President's power. Now, the only check on this is

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<v Speaker 1>that the chief officers of the United States have to

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<v Speaker 1>be confirmed by the Senate. They are subject to the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate's advice and consent. So Marco Rubio has to go

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<v Speaker 1>through Senate confirmation hearings. Pete Hegseth has to go through

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<v Speaker 1>Senate confirmation hearings.

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<v Speaker 2>All of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Chief officers of the executive branch have to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>Executive have to go through confirmation hearings. But lots of

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<v Speaker 1>people who fulfill various kinds of roles of presidential advisors

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<v Speaker 1>who are not themselves primary officers of the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>but who nonetheless might be assisting the president and formulating policy.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the president's policy advisors, white House counsel

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe is subject to Senate confirmation. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of presidential advisers are not subject to Senate confirmation, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty of people who are working within the executive branch.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe the chief of staff is chief of

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<v Speaker 1>staff is not subject to Senate confirmation. Plenty of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are critical in helping the president formulate policy are

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<v Speaker 1>not subject to Senate confirmation or Senate review. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>officers who are exercising the president's power. They're just people

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<v Speaker 1>who are giving the president advice. The theoretical structure, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I see it, of what Elon Musk is

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<v Speaker 1>doing is he is serving as a high level presidential advisor,

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<v Speaker 1>a high level presidential policy advisor. And as far as

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<v Speaker 1>I see it, I mean, given that the president's in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of the executive branch, like people are getting all angry,

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<v Speaker 1>what business does Elon must have looking at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury Department transactions.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's well, he why is he authored? He shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the authority to look at that? Well, sure he should.

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<v Speaker 1>The president certainly has the authority to look at every

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<v Speaker 1>transaction the Treasury is doing. The Treasury is an executive.

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<v Speaker 2>Entity.

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<v Speaker 1>Its action of dispersing money is an executive function.

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<v Speaker 2>It's subject to law.

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<v Speaker 1>But certainly the president has the authority to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the president has the authority to look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>he can delegate one of his advisors who's helping him

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<v Speaker 1>in his work, to also look at it, I would imagine. So,

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<v Speaker 1>unless there's other kind of legal constraints that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>aware of, but the idea of saying, well, Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 1>isn't allowed to look at that, Well, if the president's

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to look at it, and he says, Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 1>can look at it. Then Elon Musk can look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>and his staff can look at it if the President

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<v Speaker 1>allows him to look at it. And as far as

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell, all Elon Musk is doing is identifying

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<v Speaker 1>wasteful expenditures and recommending to the relevant executive authorities that

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<v Speaker 1>we should stop funding X, Y, and z. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>question of whether or not, once Congress is authorized spending,

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<v Speaker 1>does the president have to fund it?

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<v Speaker 2>Can the president fund it? That?

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<v Speaker 1>This is leading to, you know, certain kinds of questions

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, does the president have what? What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of impoundment authority does the president have? Once Congress has

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<v Speaker 1>authorized something to be spent, does the president have to

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<v Speaker 1>spend it legally? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Does?

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<v Speaker 1>Can the president exercise a certain kind of executive discretion

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<v Speaker 1>to not spend it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Congress is authorized.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, four billion dollars for the prosecution of a war.

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<v Speaker 1>You're two billion dollars in and the other country surrenders.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do with that other two billion? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>is the president? Does the president have to spend it

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<v Speaker 1>on that Congress told him he has to? Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>there's some there's some sort of legal question there about

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<v Speaker 1>what impoundment authority does the president have if Congress has

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<v Speaker 1>mandated that, if Congress has passed legislation for this spending

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, what discretion does the president have? And that

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<v Speaker 1>might differ from one set of monies to another, But

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I can tell, what Elon Musk is

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<v Speaker 1>doing is simply going through federal expenditures and identifying things

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<v Speaker 1>that are wasteful, and then the responsibility for cutting it,

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<v Speaker 1>for stopping that spending on X, Y and z, goes

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<v Speaker 1>to whatever that relevant executive agency is, either to the

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<v Speaker 1>President or also I think, to Congress. Congress has now

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<v Speaker 1>developed committees sort of that are going to run parallel

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<v Speaker 1>to doge I think, but within certainly within the House,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe in the Senate also various kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>congressional committees are running alongside of it to identify these

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<v Speaker 1>things to be cut down the road in future congressional spend.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's all this sturm and drawing on the left

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<v Speaker 1>about oh, this is terrible, this unelected, unaccountable man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just running rough shot through federal expenditure. Well, no, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not unelected, and he's not unaccountable. I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Trump campaign. He was a huge Trump

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<v Speaker 1>backround supporter. Everyone knew he was like tight with Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>and Trump was tight with him. And it was clear

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<v Speaker 1>from the campaign that if Trump won, he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>empower Elon Musk to do this. They announced this in

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<v Speaker 1>August of twenty twenty four. Trump announced, if I win,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna create this thing called the Department of Government Efficiency,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna make Elon Musky charge of it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said it in the campaign. Furthermore, it is politically accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>It is politically accountable in the same way that every

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<v Speaker 1>single executive agency is politically accountable. It's politically accountable because

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<v Speaker 1>it's tied to the president. The president has to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about reelection or his party's reelection, his allies reelection in

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<v Speaker 1>the next four year cycle. If Elon Musk's DOGE entity

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<v Speaker 1>does a bunch of dumb things or illegal things, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be subject to, you know, impeachment efforts or cutting

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<v Speaker 1>to impeachment efforts or cutting off his funding. And in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty eight election, if DOGE has run un

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<v Speaker 1>wild and done a bunch of bad things that are

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<v Speaker 1>really unpopular. Jd Vance or whoever the Republican nominee is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be, is going to have to be subject

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<v Speaker 1>to the question, Hey, are you going to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>let Elon Musk run rough shot over federal spending with

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<v Speaker 1>his DOGE entity? And Elon and jd Vance is going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to have a policy proposal. Yes, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to let Elon and DOGE keep doing its work,

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<v Speaker 1>or whoever becomes Elon's successor no, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing that. There will be some political accountability for this,

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<v Speaker 1>insofar as it's an executive entity, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It has just as much It has exactly as.

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<v Speaker 1>Much political accountability as any other executive entity. If the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI does a bunch of dumb and stupid stuff, who's

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<v Speaker 1>politically accountable for it? Trump will be Trump, or the

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<v Speaker 1>going to be politically accountable. If Cash pateel does a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of dumb stupid things, if the FBI does a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of dumb stupid things, if the DJ does a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of dumb stupid things, DJ is ultimately responsive to

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<v Speaker 1>the President.

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<v Speaker 2>So this idea of Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>Was unelected, Well, I mean he's no more or less elected,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say than Marco Rubio or Pete Hegsath orright, any

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<v Speaker 1>other person who's within the executive branch of government.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything, he's more.

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<v Speaker 1>Elected, because I don't think it was one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>clear in the campaign that Marco Rubio was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the Secretary of State. Everyone knew starting in August

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<v Speaker 1>that this Department of Government efficiency thing was going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen if Trump won, and that Elon was going to

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<v Speaker 2>It was very much part of the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it actually helped Trump get elected.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's something people actively kind of wanted. So

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<v Speaker 1>this notion of Elon Musk this unelected, unaccountable person, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he is exact actly as elected and as accountable

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<v Speaker 1>as anyone else within the executive branch. So I find

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<v Speaker 1>all these criticisms at a theoretical level to be very

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<v Speaker 1>silly when we return just.

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<v Speaker 2>A little pet peeve.

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<v Speaker 1>Actors who call themselves activists. Next on the John Girardi Show,

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<v Speaker 1>I've noticed this thing that celebrities seem to do all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, especially after the Grammys. I noticed this with

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, you have to protect Chen's kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, all these posturing, foe concerned people. This

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<v Speaker 1>one trend that I notice is on whatever social media

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<v Speaker 1>account that a celebrity has, usually actors and singers, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>say their little bio on their Twitter account or their

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram whatever. It'll say actor, husband, wife, you know, mother,

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<v Speaker 1>singer this, and then it'll always end with this noun

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<v Speaker 1>as a descriptor activist. They're all activists. They all want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that they're activists. Now, all right, let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Just explain something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you define an activist, but clearly

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an activist. I run an anti abortion nonprofit organization.

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<v Speaker 1>I've run it for like eight and a half years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an activist. I literally we set up a whole

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<v Speaker 1>building to be outside of Planned Parenthood to encourage people

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<v Speaker 1>not to have abortions. We do talks for kids to

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<v Speaker 1>encourage them not to have abortion. We do a whole

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<v Speaker 1>radio show talking about the abortion issue and encouraging people

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, oppose abortion. Blah, blah blah like by

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<v Speaker 1>any measure, I'm an activist. And I don't even call

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<v Speaker 1>myself an activist. I say I'm a nonprofit director. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've never used that word.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't even pop into my mind that that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way I describe myself. But clearly, if anyone is an activist,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me. Celebrities are not activists. They're like people who

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<v Speaker 1>give to nonprofit causes that they care about, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ideological causes they care about.

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<v Speaker 2>They show up.

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<v Speaker 1>At a couple of events for those causes that they

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<v Speaker 1>care about, but they're not activists. It's not their full

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<v Speaker 1>time work. Okay, that's not That is a BS way

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<v Speaker 1>of just patting yourself on the back like you're freaking

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King when you're just an actor or a celebrity.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, lot more on the John Girardi Show

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<v Speaker 1>right after this
