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Speaker 2: There are more than one thousand paranormal events reported around

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as natural phenomena, but about ten percent cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters, coincidences,

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Speaker 3: All these things and more are.

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Speaker 2: Revealed every week on Mac Maloney's Military X Files.

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Speaker 3: So join Mac and the rest.

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Speaker 2: Of the game one one Switchy club Susan Ka and

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into the ultimate mysteries of time and space. This is

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Mac Maloney's Military.

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Speaker 3: X Files and now here Mac Well, Good evening, everybody,

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and welcome to Mac Maloney's Military Sound Show here in

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the Distant Thunder Radio Network, broadcasting live from the Stopping

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Galley Restaurant, fifty five Water Street, Nibyport, Massachusetts, Great Seafood Restaurant,

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Great Hamburgers, Great Steak and Cheese, Sammy and ion rings

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to die from. We've quite a shoe for you tonight.

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But first let me introduce the members of the posse. Girls.

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Sit yourself down, start fanning yourself. Open up that big

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box of clinics. That big box of wipes is squeegee

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any load.

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Speaker 4: Put batteries in that appliance right away, or.

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Speaker 3: At least charge them up. Because the very famous Wan

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one is here. Wan.

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Speaker 4: Hello Mac, Hello everybody. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, all ships

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at sea, Welcome to the show. I'm glad to be here.

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I'm glad to be anywhere as a matter of fact.

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And here we are at the Starboard Galley. We're inundated

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by lobsters. I'm surprised they're not crawling around on the

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floor every time I Yet every time we come in

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here on Tuesday, it's a lobster festival night, twin lobsters

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for like a measly priced It's unbelievable. And I always

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think of the Woody Allen movie Andy Hall put the

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lobster in the pot.

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Speaker 3: Lopster of the pot sounds onely curly, but yes, you

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remember that. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: We may be overrun with lobsters, but at least we

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don't have any crabs.

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Speaker 3: Hang on, hang on, double tap there. So well, thank

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you for money for joining us.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome, glad to be here.

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Speaker 3: Also in the studio with US Mobile Studio. And the

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voice you just heard was our producer Engineer get away

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driver be kill her pe killer Uncle Aley, kid, he's

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pill we mac hell everybody. Bees were actually flying the

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other day it was like fifty five degrees out. Well

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they did not.

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Speaker 5: They're not flying today because it's freezing out, very cold. Yeah, yeah,

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they were out. I was really surprised because I start

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a couple. I walked by a bird bath and there

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were probably about fifty bees a drink.

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Speaker 4: Wow, wow, that's awesome. What's the survival rate of bees

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during the the typical New England winter zero?

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issues that happen. Is the biggest problem with the bees

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right now, I think called the Verroa mites, their mice

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that get into the hive and they feed off the bees.

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eggs and they feed off the larva and they make

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the larva deformed. They can't fly right, so they can

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really beat up a hive and that's crazy.

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hear it explained by al or anybody that maintains animals

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for a living or just for fun, that something's not

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crap is allowed to happen. I know, it's nature. A

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lot of nature's got to do its thing, and it's

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because we've interfered with the balance of nature.

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Speaker 5: But things like that, if these mice came from somewhere

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the honey or you know, the hive and go in

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don't go away. Okay, it's unbelievable. That's treatments, but the

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treatment's poison. You really want to put it in a hive?

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Speaker 4: Awful.

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Speaker 4: No, gonna have nightmares about it.

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Speaker 3: Glad to be also with us down there. My sister's

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Speaker 6: Great to be here tonight, Mac.

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Speaker 3: What else?

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Speaker 6: How are you so far? That's that's all I got.

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Speaker 6: Well, we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 3: Hold on the big night from Switching. Okay, I said,

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nothing new down there. Switch It's going to be the

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anniversary of the Mockman signing or something.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, in a few days, the fifty ninth anniversary

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of that first major sighting, not the actual first sighting,

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but the one that chased the two couples down Route

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sixty two out of the T and T area right

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Speaker 3: Yep. Okay, well that's something. So everything else is okay though.

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loads of fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what are you expecting company.

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Speaker 6: Or well, you know, it could happen at this point.

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in and use your bathroom? Now there's a gas station

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down the street. Wow, okay, it's cleaner.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well another look into switches life.

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Speaker 7: Why would somebody just come along and ask to use

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Speaker 6: I was going to say, no, no, not just somebody,

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I mean, like like somebody I actually know. Oh, I'm sorry,

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I know you and I and I love you, and

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Speaker 5: One of the scams going around now is like if

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you post a car for sale, let's say, on marketplace, yes,

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and if people come to your house and they want

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to look at it, yes, And they'll be out there

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and the wife will say to you, you mind if

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Speaker 7: Up?

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Speaker 5: And then she goes in and rifles your benison cabinet

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steals all your prescription drugs and then they go, you know,

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before you realize it, and they go, we weren't interested, have

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a nice day, and they drive away.

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Speaker 3: I have friends that happened to What did they have

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in that? I mean, it all depends on what you

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have in your well. He had had our knees and

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hip replacements, oxy contons. You had a lot of good

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stuff in there, and so they scored with him. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Some good oxy coton and tramadol.

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Speaker 3: All right, kids, don't do this at home. Also with us,

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where's the good news here? The club is going to

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join us soon. And also Susan.

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Speaker 6: Kay, I'm not getting my oxy cotton Okay?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't have any, but I'm not getting

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it up there in Wisconsin. And Fingerlan is a good friend.

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Brandy Eggs, Brandy, how are you? Hi?

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Speaker 7: Everybody? I'm great, and I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're excited to But I have to comment on

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your look. You look exactly and I don't like her.

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I don't agree with her politically, you know, intellectually you

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look just like Sarah Palin, doesn't she a younger version

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of she? Probably hates uncle. Thank you a young pretty version.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the other hairstyle that's borrowed from.

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Speaker 3: Sixties R and B girl groups. Yes, yeah, okay, is

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that what you're looking for? Wherever it came from?

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Speaker 7: I really wasn't. It was it was like, I got

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to wash my hair when we're done. It was, you know,

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grossing me out, so I just put it up.

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Speaker 3: Wow, okay, all right, maybe it's excellent maybe tm I,

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but all right, So anyway, so, uh, you know, we

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have a lot of number of things get to night,

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but also joining us up there and the is styla

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up in upstate New York sideways. The ark is uh

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lonely Larry, and he insisted that we clapped for him

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because oh no, he needs the attention. So how are

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Speaker 8: I also just washed my air coincidentally.

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Speaker 6: Really yeah, he didn't put it up.

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Speaker 8: It's still driving it up with you guys didn't give

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me enough time. So I'm thrilled to be here. It's

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Speaker 3: But we uh we never hours twenty minutes to kill,

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so here you are. So anyway, he's been bugging me. Okay,

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for he fed months, if not years. Let me come

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on the show. I can be funny. Let me do

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a bit, you know I mean, and you know you

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I mean? Right, but he delivers, right, No, I keep

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putting them off. But anyway, so he doesn't close the

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deal we needed. We needed to kill some time. So

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don't have any music. Maybe we'll put some music behind

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it though, Larry. But Larry, please, you know, let me

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throw it to you as the kids say.

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Speaker 8: Okay, you know, you know, as you know, I'm a

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big fan of going out to diners for breakfast, and

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this morning I happened. This is as an aside. This

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the the waitress came over and I said, I'd like

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to ask about the menu please, And she said, sir,

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the men I please are none of your business.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, hold on, go ahead, oach ouch. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The name of this diner not for me, but for

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other people that might want to know.

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Speaker 8: It's the Pantheon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, go ahead, Yeah all right, yeah, good start there, Larry, go.

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Speaker 8: But but I want to talk about industry nicknames.

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Speaker 3: Industry nicknames in the street.

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Speaker 8: You what I'm talking about. You know, the companies that

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comprise the petroleum industry are big oil.

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Speaker 3: Right, Big oil, yep?

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Speaker 8: And you got you got big pharma, big tobacco, right yep.

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Speaker 3: Attention at all. And the all right, I mean, okay,

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Speaker 8: Yes, so I spent some time researching this. I'm retired,

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so I get to do these things, okay, And so

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so I'm gonna I'm proud to present the top ten

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industry nicknames you've probably never heard of.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, here we go, okay, eight minutes ahead.

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Speaker 8: Who make up the dental profession?

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Speaker 3: Eight minutes to be hilarious? Go ahead, big mouth, say

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it again. I'm sorry I stepped on it.

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Speaker 8: The fraternity of sadists who make up the dental profession.

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Speaker 3: The dental profession, Go ahead, big mouth, big mouth, Yes, wow, delicious,

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it's just.

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Speaker 8: Poultry cabal that recently conspired to raise egg prices across

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the country, big bird.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 8: Supply us you're gonna just keep talking over me.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to be trying to be funny here,

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Speaker 8: Companies that supply us with tropical fruit, big banana.

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Speaker 3: Big banana. Okay, all right, you know, maybe go ahead.

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Speaker 8: The consideration of men and women who run the Las

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Speaker 3: Big deal, big deal, big deal. Okay, all right, how

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many more?

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Speaker 8: The Brotherhood of Proctologists number six?

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Speaker 3: All right, alright, go ahead, he's building this.

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Speaker 8: This should appeal to because I heard I heard some

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uh mention of that Sasquat anniversary a moment ago. And

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my wife, by the way, who's a huge Bigfoot fan,

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was in the room to hear that. So anyway, the

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doctors who treat our our bunyan's hangnails and corns.

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Speaker 3: Bigfoot, Bigfoot. Does everyone understand that what he's going for

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here is oil companies who go out big oil, you know,

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the big, big front of stuff. Okay, just halfway through,

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we got to explain it a game. Go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Number four. And the pool halls, equipment makers and tournament

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operators and others who make up the billiards industry Big balls.

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Number three. The sweaty, grass stained laborers who maintain our landscapes,

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big head clipper. And that's that's one. That that's one

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that goes way back between McAfee about forty years the

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inside with another big headge clipper story.

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Speaker 4: I thought big grass or something.

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Speaker 3: You were in the number.

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Speaker 8: Two the pharmer companies that specialize in E D treatments

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Dick and this is this is a new one. Uh

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and and and actually Mac brought this to my attention.

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The bunch of U conservatives in down in Austin were

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complaining that the people who serve the people who live

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out on the streets were were striking it rich from

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the incentive the the government programs that uh that served

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disadvantaged people.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 8: So they coined the term big homeless.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that one, no, but that's true. That's

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what's weird about. Okay, okay, Larry, Well, let's clap for

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him only because if not, he'll be pissed. I guess

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it'd be something, well, thanks, Larry. What else can we say? No,

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it's only upward for me.

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Speaker 8: By the way, By the way, big homeless was max idea.

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I woke up one morning to email with that subject line.

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Speaker 4: So, jeez, doubt it. I doubt it.

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Speaker 3: Don't blame it on me, Okay, all right, if it flaows,

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don't worry. Just keep at it and you'll be successful someday.

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Speaker 8: You know, you know, I'm my My pool match started

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five minutes ago. I'm going to be late because of you,

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because of you, but anything for a good cause.

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Speaker 3: Okay, didn you win like fifteen hundred bucks? You won?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, my team won fifteen hundred bucks in an April

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tournament in Niagara Falls last week?

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Speaker 3: Really? Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you.

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Speaker 8: It's Canadian fifteen hundred bucks.

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Speaker 7: So you know.

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Speaker 3: What is it? Like? How much is it us? When?

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Is it more or less?

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Speaker 8: Seventy dollars?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Really? Yeah? That much for disco? Uh okay, all right,

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well Larry, go play your quote unquote pool and uh,

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you know, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 8: I guess well, thank you for having me as always,

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all right.

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Speaker 3: And you know what while you were gone in the

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run up, your cat actually put his ass up to

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the camera literally to train him to do that, and

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his tail was up too. Yeah yeah, yeah, disgusting man.

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Speaker 4: He might have been putting his scent on your camera.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a possibility he was mooning us. Well, oh

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she is Oh get him all right, Okay.

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Speaker 8: There, but she won't show you. Okay, well, okay, the.

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Speaker 4: Love the cat, I love the cat.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Larry, thank you, And let's clap him again,

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because then how can we miss him with he won't

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go away?

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Speaker 8: All right, have a good show, guys, okay, luck good well, okay,

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lonely Larry, everybody.

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Speaker 3: There's a burging comic, right can you see him in

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the stand up?

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Speaker 4: I'm going to ask him Jets the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: He wouldn't know, He didn't know if the football is

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blown up a forward feathers anyway? Okay? So here, yeah,

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and uh is he frozen or did he have a stroke.

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Speaker 9: He's listening to I think he's just pissed at your comment.

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Well he looks bad. Uh anyway, So why don't we pivot?

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As the kids say? And uh there he goes?

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Speaker 3: Switch? You ever report? Yes?

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Speaker 6: I do?

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Speaker 3: Okay, why don't we gone try into switches report right

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instead of okay?

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Speaker 6: Do you think we could take a brief time out

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before we do that?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 6: Why because just just because I'll be more comfortable we're

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doing my report if we can have a brief time out.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, let's go to a commercial then, I mean,

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there's nothing.

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Speaker 6: Ex right, so correct idea.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone to Mac Maloney's pneumatary S Show here

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of French onion sioux being served. Okay, let's see. Oh

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Oh my goodness, what's that for me?

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Speaker 6: That one?

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Speaker 10: On?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Thank you? Wow? Oh man. Now I can

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smell that. That's all I can smell. Anyway. Welcome back

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to Mac Maloney's mill Track's not show here in the

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shoe if he we have a die? But let me

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introduce the members of the place very quickly. Girls one

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one is here.

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Speaker 4: Hello Max, Hello everybody, Hello girls, especially welcome back to

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the show. Well, I love being here. It's it's a

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lot of energy here tonight.

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Speaker 3: You wanted a bowl of French onion soup? I did

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once you do.

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Speaker 4: That about five minutes ago, ordered the beers.

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Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, okay, good people, we'll good to eat it.

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Speaker 5: A cool off a little bit too. Wow, it looks

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so good. But they put it on the table right

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next to Max and torture them. You know, yeah, I appreciate. Well,

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originally we was on your table. Well it came to me,

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but I'm not a big fan of French onion soup.

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Show didn't bother me.

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Speaker 3: Well I am, yeah, I know you are so anyway, okay,

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all right, thank you for sharing well with others. As

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a woman, You're welcome. All the with us is uncle

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ally kiddy's bell.

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Speaker 5: Hello mackle, everybody nice, nice and you got the kids.

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Speaker 3: Were fixated on it.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 4: There used to be a restaurant they used to drive

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by when I lived in upstate New Hampshire and it

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was called spoon Victuals. There was a restaurant that just

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serve soups.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, yeah, h okay, that's a big word. What's

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the second word ventral victual If I haven't right, Brandy,

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check me on this. Victuals v I C t U

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A L s right sounds to me.

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Speaker 4: It's food food that is like like vidles. Yeah, I'm

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trying to think of what Latin.

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Speaker 5: There was a guy trying to open a restaurant in Keene,

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New Hampshire. Yes, and it was like an Asian one

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of those noodles. This is bad. And you know what

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they call those. The name they give the those news

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is foo p h u p h u. They wanted

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to be the Foo King Foo King great noodles. They

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wanted to call the place yeah, and the town shut

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them down and said, no, we're not doing it because

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it sounds too much like yeah exactly. They were trying

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to be They were trying to be cute with the name,

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and it didn't It didn't float, It didn't work.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, not everything works. Also with us is down

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there in West Virginia, Senior something correspondent and my sister

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thanks to West Virginia. Now this is sad in my opinion.

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But he's about to have six cats? Is it? Six cats? No,

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I've got six now seven.

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Speaker 6: Five of them are rescues.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me tell you something.

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Speaker 4: You know, and I am. I am happy for you

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that they're all rescues or fire. Yeah, yeah, yes, we

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need to rescue as many as we can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we all are. Hey, listen, switch, you have like

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one cat away from an intervention. Okay, so you're going

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to cross the line at some point. Why do you

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have wives? We'll cast the eager body when the day

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of inevitably comes it is okay.

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Speaker 6: I compassionate. I love animals and nature, and you know,

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if I can save a couple of pur balls here

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and there, I'll do it.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, yeah, Al is directing one. How do

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we this franchise? I was pointing out with the girl left.

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Speaker 6: The bat and I was already around the band anyway,

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So it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 3: Does Okay? All right, that's okay. Switching.

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Speaker 6: You know, if you're if you're already around the band,

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hey enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: If you got once you're over five, I don't think

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it really matters. Yeah, but if you go around the

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bell seven cats re evaluate anyway, switching, Thanks for dreaming.

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Also with us, is up there in Wisconsin is a

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very good friend, Sarah Palin. Let's let's clamp for her.

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I mean she can see Alaska from her.

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Speaker 7: I can see Russia in my house.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Sounded just like a wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's no joke.

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Speaker 3: Your sounded just like dumb and cute. Wow. All right,

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well brand that you really you really have that. But

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you told us earlier that it was just very kind

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of impromptu. It was really well.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, and I would like to say that when

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you guys make it to Wisconsin to visit, I will

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I will personally make all of you your own crop

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of French onion soup.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go now, let's cut the shot, take a

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full of you, but get on the logan all right, Wow, okay,

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let's do that. That would be interesting again of a

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Kringle from desser It, right, yeah, yeah, anyway, thanks for

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00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:03,920
joining us, tonight, Brandy, thank you. I know you have

469
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,559
a report later on. You went to Holy Hill, right,

470
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,720
Holy Hill? Okay? And where is that exactly? Is it

471
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:11,480
in Wisconsin?

472
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 7: Mm hmm it's just outside of Milwaukee.

473
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 4: Uh huh, straight down the street from Holy Crap.

474
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,799
Speaker 3: We're talking about something serious here. Where's my drink? Okay,

475
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,000
So you're gonna be talking about that later on the show.

476
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,920
We're expecting Club and Susan Kay to join us at

477
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,759
some point, so that means we're going to throw it

478
00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:37,079
this switchy, Switchy. I think I actually found you your

479
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,359
bump of music. Let's see what happens, sir. Okay, No,

480
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:49,599
it's not that, because that's that when the experiment this

481
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:52,880
is Okay, ready, there it is.

482
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:59,839
Speaker 10: There you go, And now it's time for another story

483
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:03,759
from the Lost Annals of the Paranormal. It's time for

484
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,839
Steve Ward's report from the Fringe.

485
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: Wow Pistol Pete after a couple of annakins at the

486
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,720
Thirsty Moose Remember those days? Anyway, switch that was a

487
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,400
good one. Yeah.

488
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 6: I thought it was going to be the Benny Hill

489
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:23,880
theme music for a minute.

490
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:28,319
Speaker 3: Really okay, that pervert? Okay, go ahead please.

491
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 4: So we had some proclivities that were not up to

492
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,960
a standard, but the guy was funny.

493
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: Up to my standard that I wrote it up. Please Switch,

494
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,440
please you report. Well.

495
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 6: Tonight we're going to talk about the contact Ease and

496
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:50,200
some of the sources that will be taking from is

497
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,400
a book called Adanski by Greg Bishop, Contact Ease by

498
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,559
Nick Redfurn, The Flying Saucer of Pilgrimage by Helena and

499
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:03,720
Bryant Reeve, and also I'll be tapping into the gray

500
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:11,400
matter up here occasionally. Now interesting because the introduction to

501
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,799
as for a dancecape. They suggest that perhaps the first

502
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,279
contact ee might actually be Immanuel Swetenborg, the scientist and

503
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:24,799
mystic from the seventeen hundreds. In seventeen fifty eight he

504
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:28,480
wrote a book called Earth's in the Solar World, and

505
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:32,720
so he supposedly was contacting people from Jupiter and the

506
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:38,960
other planets, and one sources he was actually contacting deceased aliens.

507
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000
He wasn't really talking one on one with anybody. But

508
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:47,039
also he's supposed to have contacted moonmen and I don't

509
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,079
have too much on that, but that's pretty but.

510
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: You're interesting to think, Switch. I'm sorry, what year is this?

511
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:53,279
Speaker 6: Seventeen fifty eight.

512
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: So in seventeen fifty eight, there was some guy writing stuff.

513
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,759
Speaker 6: Emmanuel Swittenberg, you know, the great, the great mystic. There's

514
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:08,240
the Swingenborg Bord religion and uh, the you know, just

515
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,519
it's really pretty pretty fascinating guy.

516
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,039
Speaker 3: Seventeen fifty He's.

517
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 6: Written volumes and volumes of stuff about these, all these

518
00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:21,839
conversations with these entities. But this is something that has

519
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:28,240
gone on for decades now. Alistair Crowley heard English occultist

520
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:34,119
and total whack job proudly well in the early nineteen hundreds.

521
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:36,720
He is supposed to have done some kind of ritual

522
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,279
and contacted an entity named Lamb l A M. And

523
00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:44,640
this guy looked a little bit like a modern day

524
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,279
gray but with skinny eyes. And he is supposed to

525
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,240
have created an opening where this thing could come through. Now,

526
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:57,960
sometime later, this is almost going to be kind of

527
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,720
a stream of consciousness thing. We've heard of Jack Parsons.

528
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:05,799
He was a rocket scientist, a chemist, and another whack job.

529
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:14,400
He supposedly he used some of Crowley's incantations allegedly and

530
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:19,799
opened a doorway to usher in UFOs. Uh. But I

531
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:22,640
should go back a little bit here in the seventeenth century,

532
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:30,279
there was an Elizabethan magician, doctor John Deeve, who actually

533
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,599
was supposed to have conjured up that fallen angels that

534
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,559
are mentioned in the Book of Enoch, and he claimed

535
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,079
that he conjured up little men that were wandering around

536
00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:47,359
in a fiery cloud. That sounds a little bit off

537
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,200
off the hinge, but anyway, back to Parsons, he was.

538
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:55,200
They used a lot of Crowley's ideas. He was kind

539
00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:01,400
of his protege i guess, and he Parsons joined with

540
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,680
l Ron Hubbard, the guy that created scientology, and they

541
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,480
were conducting supposedly these Inachian rituals, and in the Mojave

542
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,720
Desert in nineteen forty six, some accounts say that they

543
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:23,400
actually contacted a Venusian in the Mojave Desert, and many

544
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:27,319
believed that they opened up another dimensional doorway that brought

545
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:32,160
in the modern day Ufo Eralines. But it is interesting

546
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:38,039
that shortly after we had the Kenneth Arnold settings in

547
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:42,799
June of nineteen forty seven over Washington State. Yes, and

548
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,160
also meant shortly following a very controversial course. A lot

549
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,359
of people still don't believe it was really anything extraterrestrial,

550
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,160
but Roswell followed shortly after that in July. Now, now,

551
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,559
mediums have always claimed to be able to contact ascended

552
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:05,680
mass and other intelligences, including Martian space people, and this,

553
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,480
like I say, goes back a long ways. Now there's

554
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:12,279
a whole There are just dozens and dozens of contactings.

555
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:15,519
We're just gonna touch on a few of them. A

556
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,279
lady named Dana Howard one of the few female contacties,

557
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,400
there were a few of them. In nineteen thirty nine

558
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:26,079
she first had this contact, she said, with a Venusian

559
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:33,880
named Diane, and it was often in the forest. This woman,

560
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:35,240
very tall woman.

561
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 8: Had a.

562
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 6: Like on her head, was like a radiant crown of fire,

563
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:47,559
very similar to a Marian apparition. And this entity ascended

564
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:50,519
a ladder into the light. And then many years later,

565
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:53,200
in nineteen fifty five, she was at a with a

566
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:57,640
medium at the Church of Divine Light, Reverend Candle Candler,

567
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:01,920
and Diane from being this shows up in a seance?

568
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,720
Is this is this supposedly this extraterrestrial manifest during a seance.

569
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:09,159
So it's interesting that you have you know, you have

570
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,280
the you have the channeling, you have the supposedly physical

571
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,119
contact with with entities. This one came through a seance.

572
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: You mean you now you mean she was there? Are

573
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:20,559
they contacted her through the seance?

574
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:24,599
Speaker 6: No, she was the this this was a supposedly in

575
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,960
some of these uh uh. Some mediums are supposed to

576
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,800
be mediums that can physically manifest uh, physical beings, not

577
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,199
just they're really there, not just blow the trumpets or whatever.

578
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,679
Speaker 3: So there's like the seven foot woman showed up at

579
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:43,039
the seance. Is that what you said?

580
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 6: That's that's well, that's the story.

581
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,599
Speaker 3: Wow, okay?

582
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 6: And uh and and Dana Howard wrote several books. She

583
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:49,920
was one of the ones that we show up at

584
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,000
the Giant Rock conventions, which we'll talk about it a

585
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:58,679
little bit later. And uh also, uh, should we take a.

586
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:03,079
Speaker 3: Pause to introduce our it's gonna there's a great goes

587
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:04,880
into that, but I'm not going to do it because

588
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,039
we're gonna clap around right now because joining us hot

589
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:16,320
is Susan Kay super fan. Did she hear us? Probably not? Okay,

590
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,679
all she's waving that means.

591
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 4: Yet, Okay, we can see her from the neck down.

592
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,599
Speaker 3: Let's say the neckdown, okay.

593
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 4: Which is fine with me, but that's okay.

594
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:40,559
Speaker 3: The camera up a bit one you want to hear. Wow,

595
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,360
Susan Kay joining us? Hot, how are you? You have

596
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,800
a beautiful face, beautiful face.

597
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 7: Frustrated, but I'm so happy to be here.

598
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:53,679
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, Well we're happy you made it. We're all here,

599
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,440
as you can tell.

600
00:35:56,079 --> 00:36:00,599
Speaker 4: So that worked out what we're talking about, Susan jo, Yep.

601
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: Have a script and all that crazy stuff really worked.

602
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,159
Do you believe it?

603
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,559
Speaker 7: I thought that came automatically nowadays, but one.

604
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: One new one.

605
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:11,679
Speaker 4: No, No, they don't come out of it. You get

606
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,320
notified of it a thousand times.

607
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,079
Speaker 3: It's so you're using a mac.

608
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's my father in law's computer. Otherwise it'd

609
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,440
be my little iPad and I'd have to hold it

610
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:27,199
and yeah, but it's it's a connected to a laptop.

611
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,159
That's why I'm having to look up to see you guys.

612
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:34,199
Speaker 3: So confusing. All right, Well you're welcome, Glad you're with us.

613
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,719
We're in the middle of switches every port and uh,

614
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,800
I'm sorry switch you know how that goes. You made

615
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,920
an entrance though, so switchy pot too.

616
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:52,559
Speaker 6: Okay, Part two, Uh, continue continuing with the contact these now.

617
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:56,199
Nineteen fifty two was kind of a pivotal year for

618
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,559
all this stuff. That's the year November twentieth, nineteen fifty two,

619
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,840
Georgia Danski claimed to have contacted a Venusian in the

620
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,760
California desert, and supposedly there were several witnesses, including George

621
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:16,800
Hunt Williamson, who will talk about momentarily. Danski actually lived

622
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,480
on Mount Palomar near Mount Palomar Observatory, and he had

623
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,679
two telescope He was just an amateur astronomer. They called

624
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:31,079
him Professor A Danski, and he didn't seem to try

625
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:34,199
to discourage people from thinking he might actually be a professor.

626
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,559
But he took photos of flying saucers and they were

627
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:45,840
actually published in an early issue of Fate magazine, articles

628
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,199
entitled I photographed spaceships. He gave lectures and so forth,

629
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,320
and of course that famous meeting. He was supposed to

630
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,480
have contacted Orthon in the desert and they had this conversation.

631
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,119
Later on, he is supposed to have had other contacts.

632
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:07,039
Now nineteen fifty three, George Van Tassel.

633
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 3: And I jump in, I jump in switch.

634
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,199
Speaker 4: Yeah.

635
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: Okay, so we hear this guy's name a lot Georgia

636
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,000
and Dampski, right, have you ever seen what Venus looks like.

637
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,639
You know, Venus is they landed, The Russians landed a

638
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,280
capsule there, you know, many many years ago. It landed

639
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:32,920
and it survived like about seventeen seconds. So it's because

640
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,760
it's so hot there. It's it's a planet that's completely

641
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,800
covered in clouds and that keeps the heat in. It's

642
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,119
closer to the sun. So I mean, like stuff melts

643
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:46,519
on the you know, on the surface.

644
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:48,079
Speaker 4: You wonder how the planet survives.

645
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: I wonder how this guy made it from Venus to

646
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,400
talk to Georgia Dampski. And the weird thing is, like

647
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,480
you said before, you know what people see. What that

648
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:02,960
one person say in the woods was like something like

649
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:06,760
a Marian apparition, which is, you know, the the the

650
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,519
appearance of the blessed Virgin Mary. Okay, christ Small. So

651
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,239
I just wanted to ask Brandy, you would know this

652
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,559
in in you know, Fatima and and lords and stuff

653
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:22,760
like that. Does the person ever actually say the mother

654
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,079
of yeah like stuff like that. Do they ever actually

655
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:29,559
say I'm the mother of Jesus christ I That's a

656
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:30,119
good question.

657
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:32,599
Speaker 7: I don't know, you.

658
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:38,119
Speaker 3: Know, if they don't, then right exactly, you know, what's

659
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:40,559
the difference between this and and and what this person

660
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,159
say in the woods? You know, it's the same thing.

661
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,880
It's how people you'll label it all.

662
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 4: I think if you're married, you can make references to

663
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,559
the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ by other ways.

664
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:59,519
Speaker 7: Yes, at Lord's the blessed woman said I'm the Immaculate Conception.

665
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:00,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

666
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,679
Speaker 7: I mean that's to an uneducated girl who didn't know

667
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,960
what the Immaculate Conception was. OK So that's not really

668
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,480
saying exactly.

669
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,559
Speaker 3: I'm the mother of I mean maybe these things appear,

670
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:18,639
maybe women appear, you know what I mean, and whatever

671
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,000
culture they appear to.

672
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 5: They bring it into what they know. Yeah, exactly, they

673
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:27,840
bring it to their context of what you're right. The

674
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,320
only thing it could be is that what they really

675
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,119
that's their culture?

676
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: What are they really? That's the weird thing anyway? Switch Sorry,

677
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,159
go ahead please, Okay.

678
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 6: Now there's a lot more cans say about a Damski,

679
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,400
but I'm kind of there's a lot to cover here,

680
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,159
so I'm kind of skirting over him. Very interesting that

681
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,719
Ray Stanford, who was one of the ones that investigated

682
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:54,119
the Socorro New Mexico landing. He and his brother met

683
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:58,039
adan Ski when they were teenagers. Excuse me, they were

684
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,760
kind of starry eyed teenagers. They were believe his books,

685
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:02,920
and then they found out he was kind of a fraud.

686
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,119
But anyway, the thing about Venus is the more that

687
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:11,079
we would learn about the planets, the more the stories

688
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:17,800
would change. For example, a valiant Thor who Frank Strangers

689
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,360
claimed that he met at the Pentagon Valiant Thor was

690
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:26,000
supposed to be a Venusian. Well, he came from inside Venus,

691
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:29,679
Edwards said. And also there's another contact, which I won't

692
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:32,639
be getting into much. I forget what her real name was,

693
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:37,320
but she called herself olmec on Neck or something like that,

694
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:41,599
where she was supposed to have been reincarnated into a

695
00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:44,440
little girl from Venus and so forth. But the Venus

696
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,320
she talked about was on a different vib vibratory level,

697
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,079
so it didn't matter that it was super hot. It

698
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:54,320
was in kind of a it was Venus, but sort

699
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,880
of another dimension away from that. So there's always a

700
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,920
way out, but moving on.

701
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 3: No matter how complicated.

702
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 6: And yes, right, Georgecastle nineteen fifty three. Again, the giant

703
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,199
Rock this is, and I wish I had been able

704
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,199
to attend some of these great contact e conventions. Uh.

705
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,360
Gray Barker's got a great book called Gray Barker A

706
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,360
Giant Rock, and he talks about the time when he

707
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:25,679
and James Moseley of Saucer News drove out in I

708
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,679
think nineteen seventy uh to Giant Rock and he kind

709
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:33,679
of uh uh. He talks about all the people he

710
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,559
met there. He takes some liberties because some of the

711
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,159
people that he met there he met earlier years. But

712
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,559
it makes it all kind of flow together. We're just

713
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:44,440
fascinating to hear about these people.

714
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: Where is it? Where is Big Rock.

715
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 6: Desert Center, California Rock. This is kind of a hot

716
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,719
spot for all these claims.

717
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,079
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, okay, cool And.

718
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,639
Speaker 6: That the Giant Rock had it had living quarters underneath.

719
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:00,519
Speaker 7: Uh.

720
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:03,559
Speaker 6: He used to uh uh. He used to do channeling

721
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,079
underneath there, and he was one of the early guys

722
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:11,079
that channeled ashtar and all kinds of entities supposedly flying overhead.

723
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,000
But you know, some of the interesting things are when

724
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:17,320
you when you uh, people would say, uh, we would

725
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,280
be talking to the entity through George and they say, well,

726
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,440
can you can we see you? Can you can you

727
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:24,639
land your spaceship here and he say, well, if you

728
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,960
go outside and look toward the west, you'll see our ships.

729
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,800
And they, sure enough, they would go outside and at

730
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,840
least they would see some kind of anomalous lights out there.

731
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,719
And this has happened several times with different like the

732
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,239
the the Raw Contacts that like the Egyptian Raw Are

733
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,599
and with Carlo Rukhart and so forth. That's the same

734
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:48,280
kind of phenomenon. Uh. But uh, he was and other

735
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,039
people like George, like Trevor James Constable, who's the guy

736
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:56,000
that also supposedly channeled Ashtar for a while.

737
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 5: Uh.

738
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 6: He learned how to channel from George van Tassel and

739
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:07,360
from going to his uh his events. And it's interesting

740
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,559
because I have a bunch of correspondents between Gray Barker

741
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:15,760
and Trevor James Constable when Gray Barker was republishing his

742
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,679
book They Live in the Sky, when he's talking about

743
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:25,039
photographing these these sky critters with infrared photography. Eventually Trevor

744
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:29,079
James Constable started to believe that these, uh, these channeling

745
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:34,079
sessions were deceptive and he kind of shied away from it.

746
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:40,960
But uh, anyway, it's just very interesting that Georgia Danski

747
00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:47,679
actually showed I just lost his name. The guy that

748
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,800
investigated Scorn now Mexico, Ray Stanford showed him how he

749
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,159
faked some of his photographs, you know, and he said,

750
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,079
he totally said, boys, you know, I don't have to

751
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,280
U who travel in spaceships because you know, telepathically, he

752
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,079
knew what was going on out there. So okay, so

753
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,679
they really they were really kind of disappointed. But uh,

754
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,920
and one of the one of the another key figure

755
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,400
and all this is George Hunt Williamson. He's allegedly one

756
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,719
of the witnesses that saw Damski far off talking to

757
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,800
somebody in the desert. Supposedly they saw a craft fly

758
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,480
over and uh, but then George Fantastle got into channeling

759
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:33,800
and a Dampski thought that channeling was bunk. It's like,

760
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,920
you know, his his way of just talking one on

761
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,960
one to the Venusians was was good, but you know,

762
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,559
channeling was nonsense.

763
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:45,159
Speaker 3: But in the end, there's which he George is he

764
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,960
is he legit? Is he a fraud? No? What is

765
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:50,519
he was a fraud?

766
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 6: And uh? Interesting, Well it's uh, you know when you

767
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,360
get into the uh, there's this great book called the

768
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,599
Flying Saw for Pilgrimage by Helen Bryant Reeve, and they

769
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:05,960
were heading the Detroit Flying Saucer Club in the middle fifties,

770
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,519
and they invited Georgia Danscy to come and speak there.

771
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:12,360
They were just very impressed with him, and they had

772
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,960
many of the other contactees, including Desmond Leslie who was

773
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,360
the co author with the dan Ski in his first

774
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,440
book and back. It's great to read this book because

775
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,840
you just I just suspend judgment and kind of flow

776
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,679
with it, because they this was a time period when

777
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,760
people really didn't know what was true and what wasn't.

778
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:37,119
I mean, they would have people like Edward Rupelp, who

779
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:39,840
was the head of Project Blue Book, who was very legitimate,

780
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,039
but then they'd have these other contactees that were obviously

781
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,719
spinning some wild tales or perhaps they actually even believed.

782
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,119
Speaker 3: It when another erago, you don't know what to believe

783
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:55,039
me is driving me crazy, and everything else and all

784
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:57,280
the political bullshit out there and everything, you don't know

785
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,880
what to believe. You don't know what to believe. When

786
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,719
you newsfeed, you know half it is like you know,

787
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,360
like well what really, you know?

788
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:05,599
Speaker 4: I read my news feed every morning on the throne.

789
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:07,400
I'm going, you know, because I believe this or that,

790
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:12,159
please switch, especially with the the Atolas.

791
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 6: Another interesting name in all this is a man named

792
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,960
Arthur Bryant from England. I believe he was a groundskeeper

793
00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:21,199
and he claimed the landing of a spaceship like a

794
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,960
Venusian scout ship April twenty fourth, nineteen sixty five. This

795
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,639
is just a few days after George and Damski has died.

796
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,000
Now yet he claims that these three Venusians stepped out.

797
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,400
One was kind of a young man, right, and they

798
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,119
were they said he called. He said his name was

799
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:43,719
Yamski and he was looking for des Les now des

800
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,559
les Is desbond Leslie. And this is this is called

801
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:53,639
the Sorryton Mystery, and it's a fascinating book. Bryant was

802
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:57,880
was full of crap, but there was all kinds of

803
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:01,519
people during this time period. People were seeing all kinds

804
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:04,760
of strange lights they had, There were voices being imprinted

805
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,960
on real to real tape players. So there seemed to

806
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,719
be in poltergeist phenomena. There seemed to be along with

807
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,199
some of the fraud, there's some real paranormal activity was

808
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,679
going on, right, Yeah, something Jacques O let you eve

809
00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:19,440
Ben talked about.

810
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,039
Speaker 3: See you have to That's that's what I mean. You

811
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:23,280
have to cut through all this, you know, bs man,

812
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,119
which is really kind of thick, you know, to get that.

813
00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:29,960
You know, maybe things did happen, Maybe people did meet

814
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,559
these people in the desert, and like you say, we

815
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:36,599
assume they're from somewhere else. We assume the evenutionans. But

816
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:41,960
it's the same string that runs along goof O stuff

817
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,840
and religious stuff and everything. You know, people see these visions.

818
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:47,559
Speaker 4: They all can't be drunk.

819
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,039
Speaker 3: They all can't be drunk. They all can't be hoaxed.

820
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:53,159
Speaker 4: Do we need a third interpreter? Do we need another

821
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:57,480
witness to some confirm these sightings and these entities and

822
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:58,519
everything else.

823
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, the same thing going on. It's just how people interpret.

824
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:06,559
Speaker 6: It that some of these may have actually been CIA

825
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:15,000
inspired messing with people using LSD and Cedric o'lingham no,

826
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:17,880
not him, or Fheil Angel Lucy might have been a victim,

827
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,239
so there could have been some tampering there.

828
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:20,559
Speaker 8: Now.

829
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,199
Speaker 6: Cedric o'lingham wrote a book called A Flying Saucer from

830
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:30,079
Mars and uh it's it's it's a real hoot. I mean,

831
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:32,800
you've got a photograph of the Martian kind of walking away,

832
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,679
and of course it's blurry, and they make a very

833
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:38,880
long story and he even had a supposedly like one

834
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,000
one was mentioning. A guy named Jerome Duncan, a fisherman,

835
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,760
is supposed to have cooperated this event. But it turns

836
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:52,000
out that Cedric Olingham was a fiction astronomer, Sir Patrick Moore,

837
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,039
who had a some kind of a radio show where

838
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:58,159
he would interview people. He even interviewed a Danski and

839
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,840
Desmond Leslie. He was just messing with everybody. He thought,

840
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,679
he knew it was all a bunch of bunks. So

841
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,360
he creates this this uh uh contact with a Martian

842
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:12,599
by the fictional citrical Lingam and uh And later on

843
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:17,400
you find out a guy named Peter David was stepped

844
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,599
in as the Martian and also stepped in as the

845
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:24,800
ass as a Lingam, the fake a lingam.

846
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 7: Yes.

847
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 6: Then and another interesting one, Orphiel ange Lussi. He's one

848
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,199
that it seemed like there might have been some tampering.

849
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:36,519
But supposedly his initial contact was on the road. He stops,

850
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:40,239
there's this craft, he's there. They give him this drink.

851
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,440
You know, there's a lot of uh uh, of these

852
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,960
incidents where people are given some kind of drink like

853
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:51,480
the ambrosia, like the food from fairyland or whatever. But

854
00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:54,960
one interesting thing about him, he went into a long

855
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:58,480
trance for about a week and they were thought he

856
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:00,239
was going to die. He comes out of it and

857
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,360
she talks about all these wonderful experiences with the space people,

858
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:07,440
which is reminiscent of Anne Jeffreys from the sixteen hundreds.

859
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,599
She claimed all kinds of contact with the little people,

860
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,559
the fairies, but she never left her bed. She was bedridden,

861
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:18,239
and she would go into these trances and have these

862
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,800
very detailed experiences with the little people. And then we have,

863
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,679
I mentioned briefly, we have the Ashtar command. I think

864
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,119
George van Tassel might have been the first guy to

865
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:33,360
talk to Ashtar, but just about everybody except me has

866
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,679
talked to Ashtar. I think then there was a woman

867
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,000
named Doris Levesque that was channeling Ashtar.

868
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 3: And talk about who is Ashtar?

869
00:51:44,679 --> 00:51:52,039
Speaker 6: Ashtar is just some galactic big cheese in the cosmos

870
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:57,199
that is guiding mankind and so forth, and shows up

871
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:57,840
all the time.

872
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,199
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, well, great big cheese. Larry should still

873
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:02,159
be here big cheese.

874
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 6: Well maybe Larry can channel Ashtar then that would be

875
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,639
pretty cool. Un Ashtar might have a routine too, who knows.

876
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:14,559
But uh but Doris lavask talk you know, is a

877
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:18,079
lot of new age mumbo jumbo earth and transition. Uh

878
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,079
you uh, you know, must have tuned into the light

879
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:24,800
and all that. And then a woman named Thelma Terrell

880
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:31,840
known as Tula uh project World Evacuation and uh remember

881
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,039
mister UFO Timothy Green Beckley, he he bought out all

882
00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:39,239
her books and he republished a whole bunch of Yeah. Yeah,

883
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,360
so anyway, it's it's fascinating stuff, uh you know, but

884
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:50,239
it's all uh pretty pretty tenuous. We have I'm gonna

885
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,960
mention briefly Albert Bender. He's the one that uh had

886
00:52:53,960 --> 00:53:01,159
the uh Flying Saucer Bureau, yeah, every and he's the

887
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:04,320
one that was going to reveal the secret of the UFOs.

888
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:07,639
And then supposedly three men in black, which were more

889
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,920
like apparitions, they would manifest. He'd have a headache. I

890
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,159
supposedly they would manifest and scared the crap out of him,

891
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,960
so he just shut up. And then the Great Barker

892
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:20,639
reported it, and they knew too much about flying Saucers.

893
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,920
But then later on he wrote a spender unfortunately wrote

894
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,760
his own book called Flying Saucers and the Three Men.

895
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,079
And you read this stuff and it's like really bad.

896
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,159
You know, amazing stories had a long run. There were

897
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:38,960
some great stories in there, some good authors, and a

898
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,039
lot of garbage. This is the worst of the worst.

899
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,360
And you read this and you think, oh, you know

900
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,840
it just some of it sounds very killian. And you

901
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,239
know they said, well, you know, we're here because we

902
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,639
need a certain element from your seawater and you know

903
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,320
it's top secret and then we'll leave. And it's you know,

904
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,360
it's it just sounded like another one of these crazy

905
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:08,400
uh red herrings that people wild goose chases, that people

906
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,360
would be sent on.

907
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 3: Yes, you know you mentioned the CIA earlier, and this

908
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:19,559
we know they did do. Okay, they would go into

909
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:25,159
these bars and San Diego of all places, and have

910
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:31,239
these undercover women who posed as escorts, let's say, right,

911
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,840
and they would entice someone who was you looked at

912
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,400
like they were of good income or whatever. Right, they

913
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:44,599
dosed them with LSD and their drink, bring them back

914
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:48,000
to their apartment and the and the CIA has hidden

915
00:54:48,159 --> 00:54:52,239
cameras and they would they would document how the person

916
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,480
would react to LSD. Okay, they did that for They

917
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,960
did that to about one hundred different people. Now think

918
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,280
about that for a second, you know, put the pool

919
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,519
on a side there one one. Okay, Well, I'm thinking

920
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:08,079
about you've been picked up by an escort, you go

921
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,400
to her apartment and you start tripping. Okay, you lose

922
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,239
your control and then watching you. I mean, of all

923
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,800
the you know one, why don't you.

924
00:55:18,159 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 4: Is this mk ultra we're talking about?

925
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,039
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, one of the conspiracies is actually true? Right, yeah,

926
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,800
why don't they do it to someone the coastal baseball

927
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:32,960
mark chap or football game? Who who pays for the escort? Seah,

928
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:36,159
they're not really an escort? Sorry? Well what fun is

929
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:42,239
that answer? That? I mean?

930
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:42,679
Speaker 4: Really?

931
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,599
Speaker 3: Anyway, so thank you, Switchy. You're at the end.

932
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:51,519
Speaker 6: Well we're not done yet, Okay. I was gonna mention briefly,

933
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:55,039
uh Truman, but Thoram who meant oral rains and the

934
00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:59,039
more you're a Mormon messa in the desert and even

935
00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:04,239
his wife to because of this imaginary space woman. There

936
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,079
was Cecil Michael who wrote a book called Round Trip

937
00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:10,719
to Hell and the Flying Saucers. He claimed that these

938
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,280
two two guys showed up where he worked at an

939
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,400
auto place and took him on a round trip to

940
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:21,559
Hell and a flying saucer night. But here's the big finish,

941
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:27,360
Lee Childers nineteen fifty five. He called himself Commander Markosen.

942
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,199
He was uh and he was from a space ship

943
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:34,079
one hundred miles up. Now he's just some dude. He

944
00:56:34,119 --> 00:56:37,119
was a baker from Detroit and in nineteen fifty eight

945
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:40,119
he came on the scene as this Prince Knewsom and

946
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,679
at a press conference that's why they find out he's

947
00:56:44,679 --> 00:56:47,480
also a I mean a man of many talents. Yes,

948
00:56:48,119 --> 00:56:52,119
a space guy and a baker in Michigan. He was

949
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:56,360
two hundred and fifty years old and he had he

950
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,039
dumped his wife. They had a couple of ladies to

951
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:03,000
to follow him around. He come here and there he was.

952
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:06,599
It's interesting because you know, long John Nebll was a big,

953
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,840
big feature, kind of the predecessor to Ark Bell. He

954
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,559
would have all these these loons on and he was,

955
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:18,000
you know, he was very tolerant and let them talk.

956
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,559
But when he came on Long John's nevill show, Longngong

957
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:26,840
Temples show. He said that he had been killed murdered

958
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,440
five times by the men in black. He had a

959
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,199
rejuvenation machine which brought him back to life. I'd love

960
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:37,400
to have that, Long John Nebbll threw him off his show.

961
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:41,199
It's probably the first and only time to anybody lost.

962
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:46,400
So very fitting that I actually know the very spot

963
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,679
on a street called Livernoi that goes down into Detroit

964
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,199
where he's supposed to have had his first contact with

965
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,639
the aliens. So it must be true you would say

966
00:57:58,639 --> 00:57:59,800
you met aliens in Detroit.

967
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,639
Speaker 3: Why was he called on Long John al Onanson.

968
00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 6: Long John Neville, Yeah, you have no idea.

969
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,039
Speaker 3: I get that cat out of there. You lose all

970
00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:15,360
credibility if you have a cat on your lap?

971
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:17,119
Speaker 6: Do you who me?

972
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,559
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh it's your foot, Okay, I hang out.

973
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 6: Wow, it was a possum here earlier.

974
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,519
Speaker 3: But that's a catastrophe. That's a code word. So should

975
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:30,719
we clap for you now? Can we clap for you? Now?

976
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:31,960
All right? Switch?

977
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 6: Very good, And we just scratched the surface. You know

978
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,280
how much fun it is to delve into the.

979
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 4: I love scratching my surface.

980
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,039
Speaker 7: So I have a quick question for Switch.

981
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: Please.

982
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 7: Two parts are actually a Number one, how come so

983
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:52,119
much of this stuff happened in the desert somewhere? And

984
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,760
number two, what do you think of the l Ron

985
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,880
Hubbard portal opening deal? Do you think that something happened?

986
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 6: I don't think so. I think I think that, uh,

987
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,000
we've always you know, we we were focusing on this

988
00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:10,679
during the the Kenneth Arnold sighting. I mean, that's what

989
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,239
it all kind of brought it to the forefront. But heck,

990
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,559
we've had you know, we had the uh the like

991
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,599
in in Max book. What what's it? What's the title

992
00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:26,079
of Max book? Again? The universe, the one that's the

993
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:30,840
one that's being reprinted righthere. You had the ghost Flyers,

994
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,119
you have the ghost rockets, you had the mysterious airships.

995
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,519
All this came well before the the alleged portal opening.

996
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:43,760
So I suspect that now, now, I don't know what

997
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,800
I mean. Crawley was he was a loon? I mean,

998
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,039
did he really have uh you know according to Alan

999
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:55,880
Greenfield that I think he claims he has opened some

1000
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,599
of these portals, and uh, I don't know if he's

1001
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:03,239
met or seeing some of the uh these entities or whatever.

1002
01:00:03,639 --> 01:00:06,480
So there may be something to this something totally bizarre,

1003
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,400
but you know, we can't can't forget and here's the

1004
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:14,159
here's the final conclusion. But uh, John Keel's Silent Contact,

1005
01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:17,400
these people that really believe they were in contact with

1006
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:22,800
some other entities, Joe Fisher's Hungry Ghosts, mediums that were

1007
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,519
contacting supposedly the dead, and that people would get all

1008
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:30,000
this information and some of it was legit and some

1009
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:35,119
of the predictions work came true, and some of it

1010
01:00:35,159 --> 01:00:37,840
was total bs and deceptive.

1011
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: Can I tell you about I don't want to, you know,

1012
01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:44,280
ash anyone's buzz, but I'll tell you a little bit

1013
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,840
about l Ron Hubbard. Okay. He was a failed science

1014
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,760
fiction writer. I mean he was someone who you know,

1015
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,760
put out a lot of maybe backbooks whatever. He did

1016
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,239
it on the different names. And then at some point

1017
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,920
he wrote this thing kind of on his own, and

1018
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,159
he brought it to his editor and the editor said, well, listen, yeah,

1019
01:01:06,679 --> 01:01:09,440
this is this is different, but let's go with this.

1020
01:01:09,679 --> 01:01:13,719
And that's what started the whole scientology thing. Okay, that

1021
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,079
he claimed that he was in contact with these people

1022
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:20,840
who are you know, fifty six thousand light years away,

1023
01:01:21,639 --> 01:01:25,960
and and it started this thing, you know, started this thing.

1024
01:01:26,199 --> 01:01:28,920
But that's what he was. That was that was you know,

1025
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,519
that was like almost like an editor is his book

1026
01:01:31,639 --> 01:01:35,599
editor's choice, go this way and we'll sell millions of copies.

1027
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:36,239
And he was right.

1028
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:39,079
Speaker 4: This is the organization. Tom Cruise is Memberes.

1029
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: Yes, okay that he uh Tom Cruise.

1030
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 7: Uh.

1031
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 3: Every year they have a meeting and he uh renews

1032
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,519
his allegiance to some you know Stabeast that is fifty

1033
01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:53,079
six thousand light years away. That's Tom Cruise for you.

1034
01:01:53,159 --> 01:01:57,119
There is a lot of them are used to be right.

1035
01:01:57,159 --> 01:01:59,079
And then when they did the they did a movie

1036
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:03,559
science the scientologists actually did a movie that Toto was in.

1037
01:02:04,159 --> 01:02:06,280
I forget the name of it. Wasn't the one with

1038
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:15,199
the spaceship one something? Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I guess

1039
01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:17,679
it didn't do as well as you know, you know

1040
01:02:18,719 --> 01:02:21,719
he put a bunch of money into it, right, yeah, yeah,

1041
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,559
And it's you know, it's a it's a really I mean,

1042
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,880
dude like ours on scientology. But you know it was

1043
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,239
just created by which a lot of things are, by

1044
01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:34,199
anantada who was looking for another kind of you know,

1045
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,000
place to go, you know with a repoint. The same

1046
01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:39,960
is with that guy who is the complete fraud. Who's

1047
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,360
the guy that did Wolfing? What's his name? He's very big?

1048
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:45,679
What's his name? There?

1049
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,519
Speaker 6: A complete fraud. But also what's his name?

1050
01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 3: What's his name? He's he's a complete fraud. That guy,

1051
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,159
he's a complete fraud because he wrote, you know, for

1052
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,840
I think it was like Banham books or something. He

1053
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,119
was doing. Okay, he would make he would write science

1054
01:03:06,159 --> 01:03:10,280
fiction and kind of wear wolf stuff wolf and was big. Okay,

1055
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,480
he had a name. And the editor said, well, listen,

1056
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:15,639
you gotta go. You know, he can't be writing about

1057
01:03:15,639 --> 01:03:19,440
were wolf's, you know, for the next thirty years. Come

1058
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:21,719
for something else. And he came up with this idea

1059
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,000
that he went to this cabin up in the woods

1060
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,159
in New York and you know people, you know, the

1061
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:30,360
aliens young met him and so on and so forth,

1062
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,280
blah blah blah. But he also said that he was

1063
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:38,079
present and I think nineteen sixty six when the guy

1064
01:03:38,159 --> 01:03:42,599
was shooting people from the Texas Tower. Okay, you know,

1065
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:45,159
we're fifty six. I think fifty six people were shot

1066
01:03:45,239 --> 01:03:48,039
dead by this nut on a tower till they finally

1067
01:03:48,039 --> 01:03:50,639
shot him. He claimed he was there. He claimed he

1068
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,159
saved women. He claimed that he saw people shot in

1069
01:03:54,159 --> 01:03:55,800
front of him, and they went to his mother and

1070
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,719
says he was home. He was was home. Really, so

1071
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,199
why do you have to do that?

1072
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:03,079
Speaker 5: You know?

1073
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 3: And so if you but he did that, it's very

1074
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,679
well documented. And if he did that, why would you

1075
01:04:07,719 --> 01:04:11,360
believe anything else you did or he wrote or anything.

1076
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,639
Speaker 4: That kind of destroys his credibility.

1077
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,559
Speaker 5: Just yeah, I'd tell you a little bit, okay, And

1078
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:21,000
they can they argue like he wanted to keep himself relevant,

1079
01:04:21,199 --> 01:04:23,639
you know. And so you know at that point when

1080
01:04:23,639 --> 01:04:27,480
you when your star is fading and if you have

1081
01:04:27,519 --> 01:04:30,079
to invent something to get your name back in there, yeah,

1082
01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:33,800
you need you get high on the thirty seconds of

1083
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,639
fame and you got to try to find something else.

1084
01:04:35,719 --> 01:04:37,519
Speaker 3: But see the weird thing about that, You're exactly right,

1085
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:39,920
But he was doing okay. You know, Wolfin was a

1086
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,440
kind of a big book. Okay, I mean that was

1087
01:04:42,519 --> 01:04:45,360
pretty big and back then when the Exorcist is baying

1088
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,880
and that kind of stuff. Okay, But literally some editor,

1089
01:04:49,159 --> 01:04:54,920
you know, and I've had it suggested to me. You know, hey, listen,

1090
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,840
this is the time for you to you know, start

1091
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,480
writing about submarines and not jet fighters. I mean it's

1092
01:04:59,519 --> 01:05:03,440
like that. It really is right, and he did it

1093
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,320
and it worked for him. Okay, but he's a complete

1094
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,800
freaking fraud. We've tried to get him on the show

1095
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,880
years ago. He did no ways coming on here. Okay.

1096
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,599
He's a multi millionaire. I mean he has a huge enterprise.

1097
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,880
You know, he sells, uh, you know, everything you know, sells.

1098
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,400
Everything's big or used to anyway, and it's just built

1099
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,920
on a lie. I'm sorry, you know, it's just like

1100
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:31,960
one one's friend who wrote the Da Vinci Code, the Buddy, Yeah,

1101
01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:36,000
that big huge I'm sorry. What he and his wife did.

1102
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,320
They live right up in Rye Beach. Yeah, they they

1103
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,880
took six or seven books that had to do with

1104
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,760
the Knight's templar and all that stuff. They literally threw

1105
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,360
pages up in the air and put it on their

1106
01:05:49,559 --> 01:05:52,639
floor and they pasted it together. And that's the da

1107
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:57,079
Vinci Code. Okay. And he got sued. Huge book, I mean, people,

1108
01:05:57,239 --> 01:06:01,400
I mean it unbelievable. In the New York Times best

1109
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:06,840
sellerphone like a year is insane. He made billions of dollars. Okay.

1110
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:10,880
He was sued by a guy in England who said,

1111
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:13,400
this is like, you know, ninety percent of my book

1112
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:15,519
that they threw up in the year it was on

1113
01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:18,760
CNN every day. The guy who made the claim his

1114
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,840
booksells went into the stratisfy, and so did the da

1115
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,679
Vinci Code. That's how one of the things are right,

1116
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:26,960
you know, And that's what happened.

1117
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,719
Speaker 4: You expect people to stay away from them from the

1118
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,039
d Vinci Code because of that.

1119
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:35,039
Speaker 3: Then gave it more. Yeah, just gave it more, you know.

1120
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:39,599
Buzz yeah, And then the movie happened. But that ye.

1121
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,119
Dopey directs the movie with Tom Hanks and they go

1122
01:06:44,199 --> 01:06:46,920
through this whole friggid movie and they wind up at

1123
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,159
that chapel there in Scotland and he moves a rug

1124
01:06:51,199 --> 01:06:53,519
and there it is. It's an under a rug. Come on,

1125
01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:57,400
I mean, this fucking thing. For thousand years it's under

1126
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:57,800
a ruck.

1127
01:06:58,519 --> 01:07:04,239
Speaker 4: Nobody ever looked under that, never swept anybody nothing.

1128
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:05,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

1129
01:07:05,639 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 6: By the way, Mac. One more thing I should mention

1130
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,440
that Jack Parsons and el Ron Hubbard they had a

1131
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,119
h uh, some kind of I don't know, agreement or

1132
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:20,119
business or whatever. But supposedly l Ron Hubbard ran off

1133
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:26,000
with Parsons money. In the meantime, Parsons blew himself up.

1134
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:32,159
Speaker 3: Really Okay, it's probably had a happy ending, it did. Okay,

1135
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,920
that's the kids say, all right, switchy, let's catch that

1136
01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:40,920
you a third time, Alison here, but it's okay.

1137
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,119
Speaker 6: He will make him clap when he comes back.

1138
01:07:44,239 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 4: Now that's a report that you want to fact check

1139
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:47,360
everything he had to.

1140
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 3: Say, every single thing. But okay, very entertaining. That was

1141
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,239
all over the place.

1142
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,639
Speaker 6: This is a I want to do a little different

1143
01:07:55,679 --> 01:07:56,159
this time.

1144
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 3: Anytime. This would now, I mean a wild stuff. What

1145
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:02,559
should I do here?

1146
01:08:02,639 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 7: One?

1147
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 3: And should I take a break? K?

1148
01:08:05,519 --> 01:08:05,719
Speaker 6: Yes?

1149
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, all right, let's take a break. So

1150
01:08:07,679 --> 01:08:11,920
you're listening to Wow m maloney's Military Saw Show here

1151
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:41,399
in the Distant Thunder Radio Network. Please stay tuned. Wow

1152
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:48,680
what a show. Welcome back to mc maloney's military little

1153
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,720
bit on a military Saw show here in the Distant

1154
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:57,680
Thunder Radio Network. This is McCarney. I'm glad we can

1155
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,600
all get together. Becauldn't have fun, right, because this is fun.

1156
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 4: All of us are together sharing the same experience. And

1157
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:12,359
Switcher really brought up some interesting contact the information. It's like, yes,

1158
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,920
out of this world, we just went up my believing

1159
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:17,640
every story though we just.

1160
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: Went out my car. There was a we were contacted,

1161
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,560
but we couldn't say. We had to do the rest

1162
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,760
of the show anyway. Yeah, yeah, welcome to Maclonew's Milk

1163
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,479
tracksw show. Here we are at the Stop a Galley

1164
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:34,920
restaurant broadcasting live fifty five Water Street, and we put

1165
01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:39,920
mass it's us. It's great seafood, great hamburgers, baking cheese,

1166
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,079
Sammy onion rings. And add to the list onion soup

1167
01:09:44,119 --> 01:09:45,920
because I watched the last segment.

1168
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:47,119
Speaker 4: Yeah it's pretty good.

1169
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 3: One one inhal a bowl of French onion soup. Okay,

1170
01:09:53,239 --> 01:09:54,720
right in front of me. Thank you dude.

1171
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,319
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of cheese on it too. You

1172
01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:57,319
got to really watch out.

1173
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah that's healthy. That's good for you.

1174
01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 4: It is healthy.

1175
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,359
Speaker 3: One one, thanks for being here. You're welcome, glad to

1176
01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:07,880
be here. Also with us at the studio, here is

1177
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,359
uncle Al very busy with the porn on his iPhone.

1178
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,479
Oh don't don't show it to me. Wow, what is

1179
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,439
he looking at? I told you I don't. I don't

1180
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,560
do anything on this phone be porn. I don't do

1181
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:27,199
anything on this phone except text people occasionally. Okay, that's

1182
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:30,880
in a mession. So anyway, what's happening to gents? You

1183
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:31,760
know you should know.

1184
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 4: Hey, we having fun doing the show. I love this.

1185
01:10:35,319 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's off, you know it's off for quiet next door. Well,

1186
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,840
it's really weird. It was.

1187
01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 4: It was noisy earlier, but it was really loud.

1188
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,199
Speaker 3: Because they were they ran out of the lobsters. They

1189
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:47,600
were cooking so many lobsters. The place was crazy. It

1190
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,199
was nuts really. Uh So, anyway, Alice here and also

1191
01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:53,840
want to Switchblade. Switchy is here? Switchy?

1192
01:10:55,279 --> 01:10:56,239
Speaker 6: Great to be here tonight.

1193
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 3: You sent me earlier a lot of photos. One switch

1194
01:11:01,399 --> 01:11:04,039
was in the navy. He wants us to believe that

1195
01:11:04,119 --> 01:11:07,840
he was in a nuclears, which is true, serving our country.

1196
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,079
But he was also a post boy for the navy,

1197
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,640
and he sent me all of the uh pictures that

1198
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,680
he was. He was in a pamphlet, a recruiting pamphlet.

1199
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,520
He was switch Really Yeah.

1200
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 6: I have to explain that when I uh heard me

1201
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,560
when I finally reported a board to the sub I

1202
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,600
came to the sub tender in New London, Connecticut. Well,

1203
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,159
they were on their way back from the Mediterranean. Yes,

1204
01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:33,560
so I took them two weeks, so I had a

1205
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,439
desk job for a while. So they pulled in. The

1206
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,159
very day they pulled in, they sent a camera crew

1207
01:11:40,199 --> 01:11:42,359
down to take a bunch of pictures of us for

1208
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:48,439
recruiting UH posters and whatever stuff and so and so,

1209
01:11:49,159 --> 01:11:53,319
me and several of my cohorts, actually several guys in

1210
01:11:53,319 --> 01:11:56,000
my division and on the sub ended up in a

1211
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,520
couple different pamphlets. And what I did was, see, now,

1212
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,119
set now, hold that picture up there. That's that's what

1213
01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:05,600
was was that that's Ericson. He was in my division.

1214
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,479
Continue to work on dear, but hold it up again real.

1215
01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 3: Quick here, Yes, but we need to switch.

1216
01:12:12,119 --> 01:12:14,119
Speaker 6: See the head, See the hair in the back. I

1217
01:12:14,199 --> 01:12:17,399
see that's me. That's the back of my head. They

1218
01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:20,439
wanted somebody that's like the helmets and the plainsment. They

1219
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,159
wanted to pretend to like somebody was driving the submarine.

1220
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,640
And one more thing, one more thing. When when my

1221
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,479
my then wife and I went to UH the sub

1222
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,520
base and back in the early nineties, right and we

1223
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,520
went into the museum, the sub museum, they had a

1224
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,319
whole bunch of slides, like giant slides up there on

1225
01:12:40,359 --> 01:12:43,000
the wall. That was one of them. With you and

1226
01:12:43,039 --> 01:12:46,520
I could proudly. I could proudly hold my hand to

1227
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,199
my heart and say, dear, that's the back of my.

1228
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:55,119
Speaker 3: There's so many jokes in there. I'm not stop.

1229
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,039
Speaker 6: Look at that pretty good picture.

1230
01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 3: But but they put that up, Susan put that up again,

1231
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,960
the switch picture. Look at this, he's a hunk man.

1232
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:12,279
Speaker 6: And my only regret about that is I had just

1233
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:15,039
that's the day I reported on board, I still had

1234
01:13:15,039 --> 01:13:18,520
my boot camp ball cap. The next day they issued

1235
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:23,159
my my cool USS billfish. You know, it was back

1236
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:26,479
then they were kind of individualized. They weren't all uniform

1237
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,159
like they are now. But I had the six. It

1238
01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:33,239
was blue six seven six and yellow letters, yellow numbers

1239
01:13:33,319 --> 01:13:37,880
rather and I wish the hell i'd had that ball cap.

1240
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 3: On that day.

1241
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 6: And the reason I was in that picture was I

1242
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,199
had I had a decent haircut. The guy's coming back

1243
01:13:46,199 --> 01:13:48,520
from the mandit. They're there, they're getting kind of shaggy

1244
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,479
after a couple of weeks, so the EXO said, hey,

1245
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,600
get the new kid with a nice haircut. So that's

1246
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,319
why I ended up in that picture. And then one

1247
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,199
more thing, this is fastening, I'm sure. So the first

1248
01:14:02,279 --> 01:14:04,359
time I got home on leave, I went right to

1249
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:07,119
a recruiter's office looking for it to see if I

1250
01:14:07,239 --> 01:14:09,680
ended up in it, you know, And I found two

1251
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,840
of these booklets. I think my sister has one. But

1252
01:14:13,319 --> 01:14:15,199
so it was kind of cool that a whole bunch

1253
01:14:15,239 --> 01:14:20,039
of my uh uh crew members were in these pamphlets.

1254
01:14:20,399 --> 01:14:23,520
And somebody told me that they saw commercial once you know,

1255
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,399
where they're flipping pictures like one after another. You claimed

1256
01:14:27,399 --> 01:14:29,760
that they saw me that picture of me standing in

1257
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,319
front of the sub up there. So I don't know

1258
01:14:31,319 --> 01:14:32,039
if that's true or not.

1259
01:14:32,279 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 3: Tay a switch, you dreamy man. You look dreaming in

1260
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:41,479
those picturesings.

1261
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,359
Speaker 6: Yes, talk about smoldering.

1262
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 4: Yes, seriously, baby, I thought that was a shot of

1263
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,880
a still of Hawaii five. Oh I didn't have my

1264
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:50,520
glasses on it.

1265
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked so much like it.

1266
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 6: Well, I said, the backdrop is just a two dimensional board.

1267
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:56,880
You know, it's not.

1268
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:01,399
Speaker 3: Real, isnt. It was cool? Uh So listen, we're gonna

1269
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,039
pivot as the kids say too. Listen also with us

1270
01:15:05,079 --> 01:15:08,079
as Brandy X, let's clap, I'm sorry I went out

1271
01:15:08,079 --> 01:15:12,520
of order. And also Susan Kay, let's do this sustain

1272
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,279
the applause.

1273
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:14,279
Speaker 4: Susan Kay.

1274
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, there she is okay, so we're all here, and Susan,

1275
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,760
K if I can use some code, could you pull

1276
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,600
the trigger one more time for us? You know what

1277
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:30,359
I mean with Dave got Okay, that's a time. I'm good, Susan,

1278
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,359
that's a one in a in a one Okay, that's

1279
01:15:33,359 --> 01:15:37,199
a jack and a buddle like uh yes please you

1280
01:15:37,239 --> 01:15:42,439
sure they want to ye? Okay? Uh So anyway we're

1281
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,960
gonna throw it and also with us is what we said,

1282
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,600
Brandy X. And we're gonna throw it at you, Brandy.

1283
01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:50,479
Someday we're gonna get a bumper for you. I mean

1284
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,319
that sounds filthy, but a bumper is the thing that

1285
01:15:54,399 --> 01:15:58,560
you know introduces your segment, okay, and it'll have all

1286
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,199
religious choruses and stuff like that. You know that's the

1287
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:02,239
way it's Gregorian.

1288
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's called is called the music bed. Not

1289
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,840
when you could sleep in or have sex with.

1290
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 3: But the bed. Would you'd run it the whole thing, right.

1291
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 4: They called the bed? Okay, all right, they're laying in

1292
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,119
it as you listened to it for a while and

1293
01:16:17,319 --> 01:16:20,119
a bed bump up, you know, same thing in a

1294
01:16:20,119 --> 01:16:21,319
way show.

1295
01:16:23,119 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 3: Very cool radio, This is very whole. I wish we

1296
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:34,359
bring it down on that. This is very holy because yeah,

1297
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,199
am is right, Brandon, you went the Holy Hill? Is

1298
01:16:38,199 --> 01:16:39,920
that the name of the place I did?

1299
01:16:40,199 --> 01:16:42,239
Speaker 7: Yes, and I have a picture.

1300
01:16:43,079 --> 01:16:47,399
Speaker 3: Let's see. Oh wow, that's very impressive. Nice, nice foliage

1301
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:58,399
and stuff. Wow, that's a that's a substantial Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

1302
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 7: It is at the highest point in southeast Wisconsin.

1303
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 4: Really how old is that? I mean, it can't be

1304
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:05,279
that old.

1305
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 7: Well I'm going to get into that. So yeah.

1306
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:10,119
Speaker 3: So let.

1307
01:17:14,079 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 7: Holy Hill is outside of Hubertus, which is outside of Milwaukee,

1308
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,720
and it's kind of to the northwest of Milwaukee. And

1309
01:17:24,279 --> 01:17:29,560
once a month, well I guess at all times, people

1310
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,199
go there on pilgrimages because because it is renowned for

1311
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:39,680
its healing and once a month they actually have healing

1312
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:47,039
masses there and so folks can go and receive healing blessings.

1313
01:17:47,319 --> 01:17:51,560
And there is a pile of crutches that is on

1314
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,680
display there that people have left there after they were

1315
01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:01,560
cured of their ailments. It's also beautiful there. The it's

1316
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,800
on the highest point and so all of the trees

1317
01:18:06,199 --> 01:18:10,840
and all the landscape looks absolutely beautiful, especially during the

1318
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,000
season when the colors are changing, which is when I

1319
01:18:14,039 --> 01:18:20,119
was there. I had been there before. I went to

1320
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:23,640
a healing mass that time, and the whole vibe at

1321
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:28,359
that time the first time I was there was very transformative.

1322
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,520
It was like you just felt like the vibe was

1323
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,680
on another level. And I just felt at that time

1324
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,239
that the healing that I was asking for for other

1325
01:18:38,359 --> 01:18:44,119
people was actually happening, and so that's why I went back. However,

1326
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,800
this time, I when I got there, I ran into

1327
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,399
kind of a traffic jam. There were attendants in the

1328
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,119
parking lots, and I thought, what in the world is

1329
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:57,760
going on, and they said, it's the colors. People are

1330
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,560
here to see the colors. There is the giant bell

1331
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,199
tower in one of the steeples of the Basilica, and

1332
01:19:05,279 --> 01:19:07,920
there are seven hundred and forty one steps to get

1333
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,640
to the top. But from there you can see just

1334
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,319
about everywhere, and you can actually see the Milwaukee skyline

1335
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,079
from there. It's such a great view. So all of

1336
01:19:19,159 --> 01:19:22,840
these people had come, not necessarily for the mass, but

1337
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:24,720
for the view.

1338
01:19:25,239 --> 01:19:29,279
Speaker 3: They call them leaf peoples up here. Okay, they're so

1339
01:19:29,359 --> 01:19:32,199
bad in New Hampshire that they've closed up entire highways

1340
01:19:32,199 --> 01:19:36,359
there for people. They're so sick of them up there. Yeah,

1341
01:19:36,359 --> 01:19:39,600
the locals go crazy. We can't get home, right. Yeah,

1342
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,119
it's an incredible traffic jams. It's beautiful, but it's kind

1343
01:19:44,119 --> 01:19:48,159
of narrow winding roads up and right same up there.

1344
01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:51,079
But yeah, yeah, looking the picture looked great. But go ahead,

1345
01:19:51,079 --> 01:19:51,760
please bernnye.

1346
01:19:52,319 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, just a little bit about the history of

1347
01:19:55,880 --> 01:20:00,880
Holy Hill and why it has this healing or how

1348
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,720
it came to have or how we know that it

1349
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:09,119
has this healing ability. The legend is that Jacques Marquette,

1350
01:20:09,359 --> 01:20:14,399
who was a French Canadian priest, and Louis Jolliette, who

1351
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,920
was a fur trader, discovered the location in sixteen seventy three,

1352
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:24,720
and supposedly both the Pottauatomy and the Menominee folklore mention

1353
01:20:25,319 --> 01:20:28,760
a black robed chief who wore a cross on his

1354
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:36,000
belt and preyed on the hill, referring to Father Marquette.

1355
01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:40,279
The Native Americans in the area also had even before

1356
01:20:40,319 --> 01:20:44,319
Father Marquette arrived, also had a legend that this area

1357
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,479
was very sacred, so they may have had have felt

1358
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:54,079
the healing benefits of it as well. Later in the

1359
01:20:54,279 --> 01:21:00,319
eighteen hundreds, there was a man named Francois Subriot who

1360
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,840
was studying to become a priest, but he fell in

1361
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:08,600
love with a woman, and so he was excommunicated or

1362
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,920
expelled from the church. Yes, and he was no longer

1363
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:18,199
allowed to become a priest. Yeah, it was a scandal,

1364
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:22,000
and so he left. He left home for a year

1365
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,800
just to let things calm down. But he said he

1366
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,960
was going to return in a year and marry this woman. Well,

1367
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,840
the story goes that when he returned in a year,

1368
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:35,720
he discovered that she had been unfaithful to him, and

1369
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:39,439
so he became enraged and ended up killing her.

1370
01:21:41,279 --> 01:21:45,079
Speaker 3: No, No, that's wrong, that's wrong. Go ahead, please, okay.

1371
01:21:45,159 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 7: So after that he fled to a monastery in Quebec,

1372
01:21:49,319 --> 01:21:53,279
and supposedly it was at this monastery that he discovered

1373
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:58,479
a diary that was written by Father Marquette, along with

1374
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:03,039
a map from Father Marquette indicating where Holy Hill was

1375
01:22:03,399 --> 01:22:07,000
and where this cross was that Father Marquette had put

1376
01:22:07,079 --> 01:22:11,680
up in dedication to the Blessed Virgin at Holy Hill.

1377
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:18,600
So Subaru felt that he had to atone for the

1378
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,119
sins that he had committed a falling in love with

1379
01:22:22,119 --> 01:22:26,600
somebody and leaving the priesthood and be killing somebody, and

1380
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:31,760
so he thought he needed to visit this holy site

1381
01:22:32,279 --> 01:22:36,439
and pray for forgiveness during so he set off on

1382
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:40,039
foot to go to Holy Hill from Quebec. And during

1383
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:46,119
this pilgrimage he became afflicted with some kind of ailments

1384
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,039
that left him almost paralyzed by the time he got

1385
01:22:49,079 --> 01:22:51,840
to Holy Hill, and it was a struggle for him

1386
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,920
to reach the peak of the hill, but he did

1387
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,760
and he found the cross that Father Marquette had placed,

1388
01:22:57,199 --> 01:23:00,319
and he offered his prayers and asked for forgiveness and

1389
01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:03,239
asked for healing, and the next day he was completely

1390
01:23:03,279 --> 01:23:07,319
healed of whatever ailment he had. It was almost he

1391
01:23:07,359 --> 01:23:10,039
was almost paralyzed, but by the next day he was

1392
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,039
completely healed. So he decided to build a chapel at

1393
01:23:14,039 --> 01:23:16,359
the top of the hill, and he decided that it

1394
01:23:16,399 --> 01:23:19,800
was going to be, you know, his penance if you

1395
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:25,399
will to stay there and you know, say prayers for

1396
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,840
healing for others. So he remained there as a recluse

1397
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,880
for seven years, and he was occasionally visited by the

1398
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,079
farmers that were in the area. They knew of him,

1399
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,640
and then all of a sudden, after seven years, nobody

1400
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,800
saw him anymore. He mysteriously disappeared, and it's said that

1401
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,279
his ghost can be seen walking the paths at Holy

1402
01:23:46,359 --> 01:23:49,920
Hill and kneeling near the stations of the Cross, and

1403
01:23:50,119 --> 01:23:54,319
walking through the Carmelite cemetery that's at the foot of

1404
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:59,720
the current basilica. So the whole place has had a

1405
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:04,960
rep putation of healing and like I said, even had

1406
01:24:05,119 --> 01:24:09,680
a supernatural quality known by the Native Americans before that.

1407
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:14,560
And so I might have mentioned before that there was

1408
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:19,239
a Lord's Grotto replica erected at the foot of the

1409
01:24:19,239 --> 01:24:25,039
basilica also, and because Lords is famous for its healing

1410
01:24:25,079 --> 01:24:30,800
as well, this grotto has a holy water spring that

1411
01:24:31,359 --> 01:24:35,800
visitors can collect holy water from and you know, use

1412
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,159
for healing. So the whole place has like a sense

1413
01:24:40,279 --> 01:24:45,720
of supernatural quality, and so it's not surprising that other

1414
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:51,119
supernatural things would be reported around the area, kind of

1415
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:57,800
like the spirit of this this francois roaming around. There

1416
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:03,920
are also both dog Man reports a plenty and Goatman.

1417
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 3: Dog Man's everywhere dog Man and goat Man. Yes, they

1418
01:25:09,079 --> 01:25:10,560
leave people alone once in a while.

1419
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:16,119
Speaker 7: Maybe they don't think so, I don't think so. I

1420
01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:21,520
specifically arranged to stay extra long after the mass for

1421
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,520
a few extra days just so I could investigate these

1422
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:29,039
dog man and goat man report. Yes, so there are

1423
01:25:29,079 --> 01:25:32,399
reports of dog man being seen in that same cemetery

1424
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:39,359
where all the former friars are buried in priests as

1425
01:25:39,399 --> 01:25:43,039
well as one of the most famous dog man reports

1426
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:48,920
that Linda Godfrey talked about, and it was the one

1427
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:54,159
where the d n R worker reported what he described

1428
01:25:54,199 --> 01:25:58,239
as a bear wolf. And what happened was he had

1429
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:00,720
pulled over on the side of the road to remove

1430
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,039
a roadkill, and this was in two thousand and six,

1431
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:09,039
and he loaded the deer carcass into the bed of

1432
01:26:09,079 --> 01:26:11,640
his truck and then he got into the cab to

1433
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,960
write up the report. And while he was writing up

1434
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,319
the report, he felt his truck shaking and he turned

1435
01:26:18,319 --> 01:26:23,399
around to see this creature standing on its hind legs

1436
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,239
and reaching into the bed of the truck. He described

1437
01:26:27,279 --> 01:26:32,079
it as a bear wolf, like a looking like a

1438
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:35,960
cross between a wolf and a bear, with a long muzzle,

1439
01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:41,479
pointy ears. But it was reaching in with its forearms,

1440
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:48,880
I guess to pull this carcass out. It was using

1441
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:53,680
such force that it also took away. While it was

1442
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,960
dragging the carcass away, it took away the ramp that

1443
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,359
a DNR worker had used to.

1444
01:26:59,359 --> 01:27:03,119
Speaker 3: Load strong Yes, yes, yeah.

1445
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was so scared. This was at one in

1446
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,640
the morning. Yes, and this I'm telling you what. This

1447
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,520
is right outside the entrance to Holy Hill. It is

1448
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,239
on a crossroad that is this highway, which is a

1449
01:27:15,239 --> 01:27:22,760
two lane, windy highway with completely unlit and a residential

1450
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,760
road that goes up into the woods. Basically, you can't

1451
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:32,319
see anyone's homes from this crossroad right and it's it's dark,

1452
01:27:32,359 --> 01:27:38,720
there's no shoulder, it's creepy, there's woods. There's like Holy

1453
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,960
Hill looming on the hill above where above this, And

1454
01:27:43,119 --> 01:27:47,479
this DNR worker was completely terrified, and he just took off.

1455
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,800
He just peeled out. And then he thought later on,

1456
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,840
I gotta go back and get that ramp, because you

1457
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,000
know that's expensive. I got to have that ramp. So

1458
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:04,239
he got up the guts back, he went back in.

1459
01:28:04,279 --> 01:28:06,640
The ramp was nowhere. He never did find the ramp,

1460
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:08,479
and the carcass was gone.

1461
01:28:09,279 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 3: Wow.

1462
01:28:10,319 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 7: He reported his sighting to local authorities, who took him

1463
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,720
somewhat seriously, but they called it a big foot siding,

1464
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:24,199
and they somehow got the word of the big foot

1465
01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:26,760
sighting to the media, and so the media reported a

1466
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:32,000
big foot sighting at that location. So I want to

1467
01:28:32,079 --> 01:28:34,920
visit that location to see, you know, if there was

1468
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:39,760
a weird vibe there, what you know exactly the you know,

1469
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:43,840
terrain was like and things. And it's at the northern

1470
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,880
edge of Holy Hill. And like I said, it was

1471
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:50,960
on that windy highway intersecting with that residential road. And

1472
01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:54,640
to the west of that residential road there's an abrupt

1473
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:59,159
like wooded incline. It's probably like seventy five degree incline,

1474
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,840
just a hill. A lot of this area is just

1475
01:29:04,199 --> 01:29:11,800
real steep hills and you know, real deep valleys. The

1476
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,000
hill is so steep that there's a retaining wall holding

1477
01:29:15,039 --> 01:29:19,319
it back from this highway. The entire area up there

1478
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,279
in the woods was covered with all of these boulders,

1479
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,640
giant boulders, to the extent that I thought maybe there

1480
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,760
had been a building there that was made of stone

1481
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,520
that had crumbled or something. There were so many of them,

1482
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:36,039
but when I investigated it, they they weren't you know,

1483
01:29:36,119 --> 01:29:38,760
cut rock. They were actually just boulders. There were that

1484
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:44,760
just that many of them left there. There was to

1485
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,640
the east of that residential road there was an equally

1486
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:52,119
heavily wooded area, but it was low and swampy and

1487
01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:55,079
it was marked private property. So I didn't go onto

1488
01:29:55,119 --> 01:29:59,000
that land, and I probably wouldn't have even if it

1489
01:29:59,079 --> 01:30:02,800
wasn't marked private property, just because it was really brambly

1490
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,760
and I would not want to get stuck in there

1491
01:30:06,119 --> 01:30:08,119
or have something happened in there and not be able.

1492
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:09,600
Speaker 3: To give back out.

1493
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 7: And directly across the highway then was the Holy Hill property,

1494
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,640
which at that point was an open grass field at

1495
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,520
the foot of the hill that the basilica sits on,

1496
01:30:22,399 --> 01:30:26,399
and the field seemed to have been mowed, maybe like

1497
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:31,960
somebody harvested hay or something there. And one crazy thing

1498
01:30:32,119 --> 01:30:37,880
about this whole area that Switchy will maybe understand is

1499
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:42,880
that this whole area looked like a replica of the

1500
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,279
Bray Road farm of Lee Hample because there was this

1501
01:30:46,399 --> 01:30:48,840
open field, and then at the back of the field

1502
01:30:49,039 --> 01:30:53,319
there was like this round cluster of trees that had

1503
01:30:53,319 --> 01:30:55,600
lost all of their leaves that was kind of in

1504
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,239
a low lying area. And then around this whole field

1505
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,640
was like woods, and there was a highway, you know,

1506
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,159
right on the north side of this field, just like

1507
01:31:06,199 --> 01:31:09,439
at Bray Road, and there was a residential road crossing

1508
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,159
this highway, just like at Bray Road, and so I

1509
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:16,439
just had like a flash of like, this setting seems

1510
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,840
to be almost the same kind of setting, and Bray Road.

1511
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 3: Is where dog Man is seeing a goat man, which

1512
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:24,560
one of the dog.

1513
01:31:24,399 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 7: Man Bray Road.

1514
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 3: The weirdest thing about this story, and I'm just into

1515
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:36,079
Drake real quick, is that this is primarily a religious site, right, yes, okay, yes,

1516
01:31:36,279 --> 01:31:41,239
and then it attracts religious pilgrims and so on and yes,

1517
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:45,239
and leaf peepers. But it's so strange but this kind

1518
01:31:45,279 --> 01:31:48,840
of activity is around, you know what I mean. So

1519
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,800
once again, take the religious stuff out of it. Just

1520
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:53,880
what does that switch?

1521
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 6: That's a picture you sent me? Oh yeah, yeah, get

1522
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:00,760
it focused in better?

1523
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, well well pretend we focus, yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah.

1524
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,319
So it's up on a hill and literally up in

1525
01:32:07,359 --> 01:32:09,159
a pretty tall hill, right, it is.

1526
01:32:09,079 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 7: On the highest point in Southeastern But.

1527
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 3: It's so strange that this place is, you know, as

1528
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,960
the kids say, a hunt point, you know, because obviously

1529
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:22,920
they're seeing stuff there that isn't completely religious or whatever, right, right, But.

1530
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,359
Speaker 5: The amount of money that must have taken to build

1531
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,880
that Basilica up there. Somebody, somebody put up a lot

1532
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,840
of cash that they building didn't come cheap.

1533
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:37,079
Speaker 7: They estimate that it costs nine thousand dollars a day

1534
01:32:37,399 --> 01:32:40,000
just to maintain the grounds of the basilica.

1535
01:32:40,119 --> 01:32:44,319
Speaker 3: Nine grand a day. Okay, yeah, it sounds like the

1536
01:32:44,399 --> 01:32:46,199
Sopranos with the money.

1537
01:32:47,279 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 5: I mean, you have have to have an awful lot

1538
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:53,119
of the faithful to donate, to donate that kind of

1539
01:32:53,159 --> 01:32:55,560
money to build, because that wasn't done back in the

1540
01:32:55,720 --> 01:33:00,520
you know, the early days. That was done probably during

1541
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:04,840
the last hundred years, maybe closer. But that's a lot

1542
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,199
of money. I'm thinking about it.

1543
01:33:06,199 --> 01:33:08,239
Speaker 4: It's kind of a landmark for the Catholic Church. So

1544
01:33:08,239 --> 01:33:11,600
there's probably a lot of or some Catholic Church money

1545
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:12,520
going into that.

1546
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,560
Speaker 3: Well I don't know which way that money is slowing,

1547
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,479
but nine mins a day, yeah, it's a lot of money.

1548
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,600
Well go ahead, please, Brandy.

1549
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 7: Okay. So I have these dowsing rods that I take

1550
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,039
with me if I'm going to like investigate a spot

1551
01:33:31,319 --> 01:33:35,960
just to see what electromagnetic activity is in the spot.

1552
01:33:36,159 --> 01:33:38,840
And I've taken them before when Switch and I have

1553
01:33:39,079 --> 01:33:44,960
investigated places and unfortunately in the in this location where

1554
01:33:45,039 --> 01:33:49,960
this incident occurred with the bear wolf. There are a

1555
01:33:50,119 --> 01:33:52,960
bunch of well, I won't say a bunch, but a

1556
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:59,479
couple of electric boxes. There are a bunch of electric

1557
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,720
poles right on the road, and there is buried cable.

1558
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:08,720
So I can't say that any indication that I was

1559
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:14,159
getting from the dowsing rods of electromagnetic anomalies had anything

1560
01:34:14,199 --> 01:34:18,000
to do with anything paranormal. I would say it's going

1561
01:34:18,039 --> 01:34:21,199
to happen anyway because of all this electrical stuff that

1562
01:34:21,319 --> 01:34:28,039
was Yeah, the location where this happened is just adjacent

1563
01:34:28,159 --> 01:34:31,479
to the Ice Age Trail, which is one of eleven

1564
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,680
National Scenic trails, and this one is a thousand mile

1565
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,720
footpath entirely within Wisconsin, which follows the retreat of the

1566
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:43,880
glaciers and highlights different topography in Wisconsin. And a segment

1567
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:48,800
of this trail goes through the Holy Hill property. And

1568
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,119
you know, right next to this trail, so here's a trail,

1569
01:34:53,199 --> 01:34:58,000
there's a creek, and you know, just the usual I

1570
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:02,439
guess terrain that would be near some kind of sighting

1571
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:07,000
of some kind of cryptid. So that's as much as

1572
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:11,000
I could get at that location. So after I investigated

1573
01:35:11,039 --> 01:35:14,479
that spot, I was walking the back road that leads

1574
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:18,039
to the Basilica, and there was a home owner that

1575
01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:21,920
was outside mowing his lawn and he had seen me

1576
01:35:22,039 --> 01:35:24,359
with my camera taking pictures and things, and so he

1577
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,800
came out and started talking to me, and he was

1578
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:31,560
telling me about how beautiful the Basilica and the grounds

1579
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,000
and the colors and everything are and that he just

1580
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:37,279
loves living there so much because it's so serene and everything.

1581
01:35:37,359 --> 01:35:40,880
We did not talk about anything paranormal, but he had

1582
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,279
this giant rock in his front yard and I said,

1583
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,479
what's with that rock. Wow, that's a big rock in

1584
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,920
your front yard. And he said, oh, you like rocks,

1585
01:35:49,039 --> 01:35:52,279
then you have to definitely check out this granite boulder

1586
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,479
on the ice Age trail. And he told me that

1587
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,359
it was at the second highest point in the area.

1588
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:00,680
The first one is where the the look it is,

1589
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,359
but he told me this boulders on the second highest point,

1590
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,720
and then he told me where the trail was within

1591
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,720
the Holy Hill grounds, so that I could climb up

1592
01:36:10,279 --> 01:36:18,039
the trail and find this giant boulder. Yes, because of

1593
01:36:18,079 --> 01:36:22,680
the proximity of granite to paranormal hotspots, I was totally

1594
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,640
all over this. A lot of paranormal things happen in

1595
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,760
proximity to granite, and so I took my dowsing rods

1596
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,239
and I went on this trail that he told me

1597
01:36:31,279 --> 01:36:34,079
to go on, which I never would have found if

1598
01:36:34,119 --> 01:36:35,600
he hadn't mentioned it to me.

1599
01:36:36,079 --> 01:36:38,600
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question, Yes, are you alone

1600
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,880
or do you have an entourage with you?

1601
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:45,079
Speaker 7: No, I'm not trash. I was by myself, really, ok Yeah,

1602
01:36:45,159 --> 01:36:50,880
I was all by myself, Okay. So I was climbing

1603
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:54,840
up this trail and I came to like this kind

1604
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,720
of not a wall of shrubbery, but just like a

1605
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:04,399
cluster I guess of shrubbery. And behind it was this

1606
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:09,159
gigantic what he said, a gigantic granite boulder. And it

1607
01:37:09,239 --> 01:37:11,880
was I want to say it was almost five feet

1608
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:13,960
high because if I stood like on my toes and

1609
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,039
put my arm up, I could just put like my

1610
01:37:17,319 --> 01:37:19,439
armpit on top of it, like I could just rest

1611
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,399
my arm on top of it. And I am just

1612
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:26,000
over five feet tall. So it was a really giant boulder.

1613
01:37:26,039 --> 01:37:29,560
I sent swhich picture of it. And next to this

1614
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,439
boulder there was a marker indicating that it was a

1615
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:36,960
glacial erratic granite boulder brought to the spot from somewhere

1616
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:41,079
in the northeast by the Wisconsin Glacier and it weighed

1617
01:37:41,079 --> 01:37:46,239
twenty four tons. Okay, I don't know how they know that.

1618
01:37:46,319 --> 01:37:52,159
But there was also a brass marker on the ground

1619
01:37:52,359 --> 01:37:55,079
next to this that was stamped as a reference marker

1620
01:37:55,159 --> 01:37:58,920
by the US Coastal and Geodetic Survey, and it said

1621
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,319
that if you take umpered with it in any way,

1622
01:38:01,399 --> 01:38:08,439
you could be fined or imprisoned. Really, so, the homeowner

1623
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,880
that told me where this boulder was told me that

1624
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:14,520
it had been used for serving the area way.

1625
01:38:14,319 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 3: Back in the day benchmin.

1626
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,319
Speaker 7: So the whole time going, you know, on the trail

1627
01:38:19,359 --> 01:38:22,239
to this boulder, my dowsing ruds every so often would

1628
01:38:22,319 --> 01:38:26,640
cross or you know, make motion. But when I got

1629
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:30,359
to the top and I was walking around it, they

1630
01:38:31,079 --> 01:38:35,239
went nuts. And I've never had them spin completely in

1631
01:38:35,319 --> 01:38:39,000
circles before, and that's what they were doing up next

1632
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,920
to this boulder. They were just spinning in circles.

1633
01:38:42,079 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 3: These are rods. These are two What are they made of?

1634
01:38:46,279 --> 01:38:48,600
Speaker 7: They were they're made of I want to say, they're

1635
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:48,960
made of.

1636
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:53,239
Speaker 3: Copper, yes, okay, And you can walk along with them.

1637
01:38:53,239 --> 01:38:56,760
And if there's some anomaly under the ground they react.

1638
01:38:57,079 --> 01:39:03,039
Speaker 7: Right, because the electromagnetic frequency changes if there's an anomaly

1639
01:39:03,119 --> 01:39:07,279
like a creek or a spring underneath or empty like

1640
01:39:07,319 --> 01:39:11,439
if there's a a burial chamber, let's say, or an

1641
01:39:12,039 --> 01:39:13,680
empty spot under the ground.

1642
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,399
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, people used to I mean they look the

1643
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:21,920
water for them, right, Okay, yeah.

1644
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, So, but I've never had them spin in circles before,

1645
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,640
so that I was really getting excited about that because

1646
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,840
I knew that was a big deal. And from where

1647
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:33,079
this boulder was you could I could look I mean,

1648
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:36,720
the trees were the foliage was covering. But if it

1649
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,880
hadn't been there, I could have seen the spot on

1650
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:45,840
the road where that dog bear dog bere wolf thing happened.

1651
01:39:46,359 --> 01:39:49,119
And I could also have seen the cemetery where the

1652
01:39:49,159 --> 01:39:52,720
dog man had been reported also, So I I mean,

1653
01:39:53,119 --> 01:39:55,399
because it's the second highest point, you could have pretty

1654
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:59,319
much seen any point, but those two points in particular,

1655
01:39:59,399 --> 01:40:02,279
I thought was really interesting that you could see them

1656
01:40:02,359 --> 01:40:07,079
from this spot that was putting off this electromagnetic anomaly.

1657
01:40:09,079 --> 01:40:15,399
So that was that was all I gathered from that encounter. However,

1658
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,960
on the way back down the trail, I took my

1659
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,079
coat off and put it on backwards because I was

1660
01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:23,159
worried that I was around.

1661
01:40:23,399 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 3: Hang On, hang on, what does that do? Hang on?

1662
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,039
You took off your coat and put it on backwards?

1663
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:34,279
Speaker 4: Yes, not especially backwards.

1664
01:40:35,319 --> 01:40:37,319
Speaker 3: Why why do you want to tell why I switch?

1665
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:38,159
Speaker 5: No?

1666
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 6: No, I want you to I would switch.

1667
01:40:42,079 --> 01:40:42,399
Speaker 4: I did not?

1668
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:46,159
Speaker 3: Please tell us? Why? Why?

1669
01:40:46,199 --> 01:40:46,359
Speaker 7: Why?

1670
01:40:46,359 --> 01:40:47,159
Speaker 3: Why?

1671
01:40:48,039 --> 01:40:53,079
Speaker 7: Because if you like somehow cross into the land of

1672
01:40:53,119 --> 01:41:00,199
the elementals, Yes, you can confuse them from capturing you

1673
01:41:00,399 --> 01:41:04,319
by putting your clothing on backwards and walking backwards.

1674
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:05,399
Speaker 3: That's why one on.

1675
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,199
Speaker 6: I reported on once where a woman got It was

1676
01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:18,000
one of those areas where the elementals were supposed to roam,

1677
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:22,039
and she got confused. She was trying to find a

1678
01:41:22,199 --> 01:41:24,800
path to get back to where she was and she

1679
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,960
couldn't find it, and so she put on her some

1680
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:31,079
of her clothes on backwards, or her shirt or whatever,

1681
01:41:31,319 --> 01:41:33,399
and she was able to find her way back. According

1682
01:41:33,399 --> 01:41:33,920
to the store, we.

1683
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 3: Can do it right now. That's something that Wow, that's so.

1684
01:41:39,119 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 7: And it's common in those stories. And because they're the

1685
01:41:43,119 --> 01:41:45,800
elementals are going to put a trance on you, and

1686
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,079
so it keeps them from I don't know if it

1687
01:41:49,119 --> 01:41:52,279
confuses them or what, but it keeps them from doing that,

1688
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:57,319
and because a lot of these elementals are found around granite,

1689
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:02,640
I thought, okay, that's you know, these my dowsing rods

1690
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,359
are spinning in circles. I'm putting my clothes on backward.

1691
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,199
So anyway I made it.

1692
01:42:07,279 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 6: Well, okay, did you ever put your coat back on correctly?

1693
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:17,399
Speaker 3: I did? On rods is spinning, yes, okay.

1694
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 7: So the next day then I went to Hogsback Road

1695
01:42:22,039 --> 01:42:24,359
to try to see what I could find out about

1696
01:42:24,359 --> 01:42:27,359
the goat Man. And according to I'm just going to

1697
01:42:27,359 --> 01:42:28,960
tell you a little bit about goat Man for people

1698
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:32,560
that don't know. According to the Richfield Historical Society, which

1699
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:37,960
is in Wisconsin and author J. Nathan Couch, who lives

1700
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,439
in that area and wrote a book on the goat Man,

1701
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:44,600
there are different legends attributed to the Hogsback Road goat Man,

1702
01:42:45,079 --> 01:42:49,000
and Hogsback Road is probably, you know, just a couple

1703
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:52,119
of miles from Holy Hill if that, it's just down

1704
01:42:52,159 --> 01:42:57,239
the road, so another weird spot in that vicinity. One

1705
01:42:57,279 --> 01:43:00,279
of the legends of that goat man is that he

1706
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,560
is the spirit of a man who was killed in

1707
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:06,800
a vehicular crash on Hogsback Road, which is a really

1708
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:10,479
treacherous road. And his spirit has been trapped in the

1709
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:15,760
location by a cult and they are using his spirit

1710
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,520
to cause other people to crash, and supposedly he'll walk

1711
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,880
across the road like holding the head of a goat.

1712
01:43:21,039 --> 01:43:24,640
Oh yeah, and cause people to crash, and then the

1713
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:30,920
cult will use their energies the crash victims energies kind

1714
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:37,119
of like energy vampires. Another legend is that the cult for.

1715
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 4: This culture talking about I don't know.

1716
01:43:41,039 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 3: I think the cult is like state fomb and some something.

1717
01:43:47,399 --> 01:43:51,279
Speaker 4: This is scary stuff. I mean, a police calling the police.

1718
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:55,560
Speaker 7: Another legend of that road and goat man is that

1719
01:43:55,640 --> 01:44:00,680
in the late eighteen hundreds, a newlywed couple was traveling

1720
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:03,439
that road in their carriage and crashed their carriage and

1721
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,800
the husband left the wife at the site while he

1722
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,000
went to walk to get help, and he did not

1723
01:44:10,119 --> 01:44:14,000
come back all night. And during the night, the wife

1724
01:44:14,399 --> 01:44:21,479
saw a half man, half goat being basically a goat

1725
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:25,560
like a pan, like you know what pan is. That's

1726
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:29,920
what was described. Yeah, so a goat lower half and

1727
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:33,399
a man upper half with a goat horns on his head.

1728
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,199
Speaker 3: It sounds like one's honeymoon.

1729
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 4: That's how I went out for Halloween.

1730
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 6: Not bad.

1731
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 7: Anyway. The husband never returned, so at daylight, the woman

1732
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,640
saw the tracks of this creature that she had seen

1733
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:52,039
in the night, and she followed the tracks only to

1734
01:44:52,119 --> 01:44:57,039
find the body of her husband killed by this creature.

1735
01:44:57,239 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 3: Wow.

1736
01:44:58,279 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 7: Okay. And the recent reports of goat man supposedly come

1737
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,520
from lover's lane situations where people are parked and see

1738
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,920
this creature and it makes them scared and.

1739
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 3: They leave the area.

1740
01:45:13,039 --> 01:45:22,560
Speaker 7: Well, well, the problem with those till the end of

1741
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:22,960
the show.

1742
01:45:23,079 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 3: Please, The problem is.

1743
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 7: The I don't see how this road could ever be

1744
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:35,960
used as a lover's lane because it is so treacherous

1745
01:45:36,039 --> 01:45:38,880
and scary. It is a two lane road. It is

1746
01:45:39,039 --> 01:45:41,800
up and down hills around curves. If you've ever been

1747
01:45:42,079 --> 01:45:45,359
in the Ozarks, I mean it's up one hill, down,

1748
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,319
up and down. But you're going around these blind curves.

1749
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:52,680
And this road might be a mile long. But there's

1750
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:56,199
nowhere to pull over on the road, and there are

1751
01:45:56,239 --> 01:45:59,119
steep drop offs on both sides, or there's a drop

1752
01:45:59,159 --> 01:46:02,119
off on one side and a real steep incline on

1753
01:46:02,159 --> 01:46:05,039
the other side. There is absolutely nowhere to pull over.

1754
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,640
And if you want to turn around on the road,

1755
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,119
it's too dangerous to turn around in the middle of

1756
01:46:10,119 --> 01:46:12,159
the road, you basically have to drive the whole road

1757
01:46:12,359 --> 01:46:13,720
and then turn around and come.

1758
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 6: Back on the road, so.

1759
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,279
Speaker 7: As a lover's lane is the point. So I don't

1760
01:46:21,319 --> 01:46:25,880
know where that legend came from, but it is scary.

1761
01:46:26,039 --> 01:46:27,800
And so then I went back there at night, and

1762
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:29,920
I'm glad I had gone during the day so that

1763
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:33,239
I didn't super freak myself out at night. But I

1764
01:46:33,279 --> 01:46:35,119
went back there at night to drive it to see

1765
01:46:35,159 --> 01:46:37,479
if I was gonna get goat man, did.

1766
01:46:37,359 --> 01:46:38,319
Speaker 3: You go back alone?

1767
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 4: Did you to get worried about this girl being out

1768
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:42,159
alone all the time too?

1769
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 7: I did go back alone, but I was like, I said,

1770
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,640
you can't get out and walk it. So I was

1771
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,399
just driving it. I mean, I was jeary. I was

1772
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:54,880
going really slow because I was worried that like a

1773
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:57,760
skunk or you know, a raccoon was going to run in.

1774
01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:58,039
Speaker 1: Front of me.

1775
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:02,199
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe an Osak mountain daredevil, but.

1776
01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:06,039
Speaker 7: You know, I wanted to get out and walk, you know,

1777
01:47:06,159 --> 01:47:09,640
and like check out the electromagnetic frequencies and things. But

1778
01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:13,600
it was just too It was just too scary because

1779
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,159
you couldn't see a car coming until it was. It

1780
01:47:16,199 --> 01:47:19,199
was running you over, so I wasn't able to walk

1781
01:47:19,239 --> 01:47:21,920
along it. But one thing I did notice about this

1782
01:47:22,119 --> 01:47:27,479
road that I thought was similar to where the I

1783
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:29,880
don't know if you've heard of the Pope lick Monster.

1784
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:37,079
Speaker 3: No, no, okay, the Pope lick the Pope lick Monster.

1785
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 7: Pope lick Monster. It's in Kentucky. Pope in Kentucky and.

1786
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:46,520
Speaker 3: Not the Vatican.

1787
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:51,399
Speaker 7: But you got the word pope right, And now I'm

1788
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,920
out of Basilica, and it reminds me of the Pope

1789
01:47:54,159 --> 01:47:58,920
lick Monster. But the public monster is a goat man

1790
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:05,039
in Kentucky that lives under a train trestle. And if

1791
01:48:05,039 --> 01:48:07,840
you ever have seen stand by me. Yeah, when they're

1792
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,560
crossing the train trestle and if the train comes, there's

1793
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:13,479
nowhere for them to go. They have to jump off

1794
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,399
if they can't outrun it. That's what this trestle is

1795
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:20,840
in Kentucky. And supposedly a goat man lives under the trestle,

1796
01:48:21,039 --> 01:48:23,880
and anyone who's stupid enough to go up and try

1797
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,520
to beat the trains, the goat man will come up

1798
01:48:27,159 --> 01:48:30,920
and basically scare them off. There have been people that

1799
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:34,600
have fallen and witnesses say that it's because the goat

1800
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:37,720
man was chasing them off of this train trestle. But

1801
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:42,680
the way this road was in this Hog's back road

1802
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:46,800
in Wisconsin, it was essentially the same kind of thing

1803
01:48:47,039 --> 01:48:50,680
because it was steep drop offs on both sides and

1804
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,840
nowhere to go. And if there was a goat man you,

1805
01:48:54,039 --> 01:48:57,239
I mean, if you tried to get away from it,

1806
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,319
you could only crash down the room.

1807
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm very concerned with Brandy X being out

1808
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:07,079
there at night and a very narrow thing with the

1809
01:49:07,119 --> 01:49:08,680
goat man around wanting right.

1810
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:13,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, Plus how bad is goat man anyways? Really? Super

1811
01:49:13,039 --> 01:49:14,439
evil person to eat people?

1812
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:16,199
Speaker 3: Does he eat people or anything?

1813
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:21,279
Speaker 7: He killed that husband, but I think he I think

1814
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:28,880
he causes people to crash or causes people to have accidents,

1815
01:49:29,359 --> 01:49:35,680
And potentially, if you believe that cult story, supposedly there

1816
01:49:36,239 --> 01:49:39,680
could be attachments that people get when they're driving that

1817
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:42,520
road that they bring home with them, like his little

1818
01:49:43,039 --> 01:49:47,720
entity attachments. So I think, you know, I guess it

1819
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:48,800
depends on what you believe.

1820
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 3: Honey, you brought the goat man home and what reason

1821
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:52,560
you're going to sleep?

1822
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 4: No? I just bought this record called Goat's Head Soup

1823
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:57,079
I was wondering.

1824
01:49:57,039 --> 01:49:59,319
Speaker 7: You know, you're in the soup, aren't you good?

1825
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:02,560
Speaker 3: But I'm what I'm fascinating about. I can't get over

1826
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,279
it is that this is a place that people think

1827
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:09,119
is religious, yet once again take the religious side of it,

1828
01:50:09,159 --> 01:50:12,279
and all this crazy stuff is happening there. Right.

1829
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:17,199
Speaker 5: Maybe that's maybe that stuff happened before the religious maybe

1830
01:50:17,239 --> 01:50:20,560
the other stuff was there, right, and then then the

1831
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:24,880
basilicas people said, this is a cool place, something here,

1832
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,479
not not realizing what else was there before.

1833
01:50:27,199 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 7: Them, or maybe they did, and maybe they knew it

1834
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,920
was a portal area. And if you're going to get

1835
01:50:33,279 --> 01:50:37,800
you know, benign or benevolent entities coming through a portal area,

1836
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,960
why couldn't you get the opposite, And especially you're talking

1837
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:44,239
about the goat man, which is similar to a devil.

1838
01:50:44,359 --> 01:50:47,439
I mean, if you you know, sometimes the devil's depicted

1839
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:51,399
as a goat, So why couldn't you have both kinds

1840
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:53,920
of entities coming through. It's kind of like when you're

1841
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:56,119
doing a wiki board, you open it, you don't know

1842
01:50:56,159 --> 01:50:57,000
what's going to come from, but.

1843
01:50:57,039 --> 01:50:59,600
Speaker 3: It's always bad. It seems like it sounds like, you know,

1844
01:51:00,319 --> 01:51:02,279
portals is never a good thing, not a good thing.

1845
01:51:02,399 --> 01:51:07,640
Yeah yeah, yeah, wow wow, Brandy. Yeah, it's so interesting going.

1846
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:10,279
Speaker 4: Through all these portals unescorted.

1847
01:51:11,159 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 3: Yes, let's see. Yeah, I don't want to say the

1848
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:16,680
hot things about it, but it's interesting.

1849
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 4: He's got stones, that's for sure. Well that yeah, yeah,

1850
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,720
that goes Brandy. Good job.

1851
01:51:22,239 --> 01:51:24,560
Speaker 7: It was fun. It was fun. I wish I had

1852
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:28,000
gotten more concrete proof of things, but I'm really happy

1853
01:51:28,079 --> 01:51:31,720
with what I did discover while I was there, just

1854
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:35,199
about the terrain in the area and the vibes and.

1855
01:51:35,399 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, see he's a weird thing. Is it sounds weird?

1856
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:42,239
Is why does spooky things happen in spooky places? You

1857
01:51:42,279 --> 01:51:45,840
know what I mean? There's a reason why you've spooked

1858
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:49,319
at shirtain places. You just feel weird at shooting places,

1859
01:51:49,399 --> 01:51:52,279
you know, And that's where it seems like all the

1860
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:53,279
stuff happens.

1861
01:51:53,359 --> 01:51:56,039
Speaker 4: So the weirdness comes from the energy underneath the ground.

1862
01:51:56,279 --> 01:51:59,399
Well that's one source, right, It's got to be.

1863
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,359
Speaker 3: Like the vibe or something is happening.

1864
01:52:02,279 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 4: Especially granted you got all that radon man.

1865
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:09,520
Speaker 5: That Radeon stuff is really especially like New Hampshire is

1866
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,760
the Granite state thing.

1867
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:12,399
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah?

1868
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to put a rad system in my

1869
01:52:15,079 --> 01:52:17,960
house I got they make you. I still get email

1870
01:52:18,039 --> 01:52:20,279
from the from the place a lot of people do.

1871
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:22,399
At least we don't have to worry about that because

1872
01:52:23,159 --> 01:52:25,439
we live on sand's nor under there.

1873
01:52:26,199 --> 01:52:29,079
Speaker 7: Well, I want to say that sand and granite are

1874
01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:34,479
both made of quarts. Is like they make computer chips

1875
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,920
out of quarts and you can, like you can.

1876
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 4: Put silicon valleys.

1877
01:52:40,279 --> 01:52:43,640
Speaker 7: Pieces of information on a little tiny computer chip. Think

1878
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:48,279
of all the information that could legitimately be stored inside

1879
01:52:48,359 --> 01:52:51,000
of a granite boulder that we don't understand how to

1880
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:52,880
get out. Just your own tape theory.

1881
01:52:53,199 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yep, no, I mean when you yeah, granted,

1882
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:03,680
when you think about it, if they everything stores information energy,

1883
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,600
you know, anything has energy in it, you have to

1884
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:08,439
just release it.

1885
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 4: You know, that's bombs and that's been stored for a

1886
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:12,760
bazillion years.

1887
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:17,319
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah. Interesting. Wow, can we clap for you now, Brandy?

1888
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:18,399
Speaker 6: Thank you?

1889
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:22,399
Speaker 3: I mean, Sarah.

1890
01:53:23,119 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 5: Maybe the maybe that way that Prisilica is that the

1891
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:31,039
religious people realized there was something cooking there, so they

1892
01:53:31,119 --> 01:53:33,319
threw a prisilica on top of it to make it

1893
01:53:33,359 --> 01:53:34,000
a holy.

1894
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:37,159
Speaker 3: Site and to build that baba cover the gate underneath it.

1895
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:40,760
That it might have been. Yeah, all those bricks up there,

1896
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:42,319
you know that put it.

1897
01:53:42,359 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 5: Make it, make it a religious place, and then good

1898
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:46,920
luck get anything bad through it.

1899
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,079
Speaker 7: A couple of weeks ago when we were talking about

1900
01:53:50,159 --> 01:53:53,359
lay lines or somebody was talking about laylanes maybe switchy

1901
01:53:54,199 --> 01:53:58,680
and talking about all of these like holy sites with

1902
01:53:59,119 --> 01:54:02,520
on this grip, you know, and a lot of the

1903
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:07,319
holy sites have been built on former pagan sites. Yeah,

1904
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:09,720
you know, this is kind of the same thing where

1905
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:13,319
this was built on a former Native American supernatural Yeah.

1906
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:16,119
Speaker 3: Right, So you know, if.

1907
01:54:16,039 --> 01:54:22,239
Speaker 7: You've got successive religious you know, places being built on

1908
01:54:22,279 --> 01:54:24,520
top of each other, there has to be something to

1909
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:25,399
that spot.

1910
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 3: I would think the lay lines in England, if you

1911
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,560
look at England, there were lines cycle through it, and

1912
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:39,399
that there were very important sites along straight lines, you know,

1913
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:43,640
almost like as planned, you know, like you know Stonehenge

1914
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:45,560
and always like with you know, it's.

1915
01:54:45,439 --> 01:54:48,279
Speaker 4: Just sected such key areas.

1916
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,439
Speaker 3: That it almost seems planned.

1917
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:53,479
Speaker 4: A team of drafts people couldn't lay it out as

1918
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:55,079
accurately as this thing is.

1919
01:54:55,199 --> 01:54:55,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1920
01:54:55,600 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 6: Funny, yeah, but Alfred Watkins, years ago, it's the first

1921
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,359
one to really look at it. He'd be standing up

1922
01:55:03,359 --> 01:55:06,439
on a hill and you'd see all these important monuments

1923
01:55:06,439 --> 01:55:09,600
and churches and so forth off in the distance along

1924
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:12,159
the same line, straight line right, and others have taken

1925
01:55:12,239 --> 01:55:16,039
up the mantle. But yeah, it's pretty fascinating.

1926
01:55:16,199 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 3: Is you know. At some point, I mean someone said,

1927
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:20,279
you know, at some point, if you look at that,

1928
01:55:20,439 --> 01:55:24,359
and it's not just in England, but like in the

1929
01:55:24,399 --> 01:55:31,560
Southeast Asia, Yank that place called the Anchor Watt East Island,

1930
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:33,399
you know, stuff like that. You know, they're on the

1931
01:55:33,439 --> 01:55:37,479
same meridian or whatever, but it almost looks like it's planned.

1932
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,000
And someone said, listen, just you know, kind of like

1933
01:55:40,119 --> 01:55:42,479
step back and look, there was some kind of a

1934
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:48,479
civilization here, kind of advanced but not like this, but

1935
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:52,479
had advanced stuff that were here like thirty thousand years ago.

1936
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:57,079
We're just looking at kind of like the we're yeah,

1937
01:55:57,399 --> 01:56:00,319
the basics of you know, what they were. How did

1938
01:56:00,319 --> 01:56:04,359
they build these places, you know in the in the

1939
01:56:04,399 --> 01:56:07,560
mountains in South America where they had like the stones

1940
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:11,199
maybe they granted you know, like four hundred tons you

1941
01:56:11,279 --> 01:56:14,399
can move that today. How do they f them together?

1942
01:56:14,439 --> 01:56:17,119
So well? Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you can't even put

1943
01:56:17,159 --> 01:56:20,399
it like a you know, like a cod between them.

1944
01:56:20,479 --> 01:56:25,239
That's how no concrete just fit together? How does that happen?

1945
01:56:26,159 --> 01:56:29,319
Does happen something we're not aware of? Yeah, you know

1946
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:33,439
it's it's something we don't know. And and that's you

1947
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:34,600
have going back this whole.

1948
01:56:35,079 --> 01:56:37,119
Speaker 4: If we think we don't know it, and we don't

1949
01:56:37,199 --> 01:56:40,119
know it, we just say, well, you know, yeah.

1950
01:56:40,479 --> 01:56:43,119
Speaker 5: You don't give our civilization in our thousands of years

1951
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:48,479
and decay and what's left. Someone's going to look at

1952
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,600
it and go, how did they do that? I know

1953
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:54,960
that because all of the technology is going to be gone. Yeah, yeah,

1954
01:56:55,119 --> 01:56:56,520
it's going to be a mess, and they're going to

1955
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:59,840
look at it overgrown, and they're going to look at

1956
01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:01,680
it and go, what was here before us?

1957
01:57:02,039 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Really, they're not going to find it.

1958
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 4: I think whoever looks at it, it's going to have

1959
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:08,800
way more technology than we ever had.

1960
01:57:09,039 --> 01:57:09,279
Speaker 3: Sure.

1961
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:13,239
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just like every every right, exactly every stage forward,

1962
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:15,840
Like we look back and we go how did they

1963
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:16,119
do it?

1964
01:57:16,159 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 3: But we talked about the Pyramids, you know how they

1965
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:21,640
do it? You know that kind of stuff? Right? Yeah, Well,

1966
01:57:22,079 --> 01:57:25,039
but I mean there is there is good evidence and

1967
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:30,279
once again and the andes in Turkey called Tobeccy Kepi

1968
01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:34,439
or something. Yeah, I mean that place is like built

1969
01:57:34,479 --> 01:57:38,239
twenty thousand years ago and it's so elaborate. You go, Okay,

1970
01:57:38,359 --> 01:57:41,800
cavemen did this. No, there's no way they did it.

1971
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:44,960
There's no way they had the the same with the Pyramids,

1972
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:48,840
and the permits are like the Pyramids were built two

1973
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:52,800
thousand years before Christ. Okay, I mean it's ancient history

1974
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:57,479
to Christ, all right, four thousand years how'd they do it?

1975
01:57:57,479 --> 01:57:59,239
It'd be so hard to do it today.

1976
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:03,319
Speaker 5: I just saw there's a day a picture that showed

1977
01:58:03,319 --> 01:58:07,800
the Sphinx back in the late eighteen hundreds. It was

1978
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:10,199
buried in sand up to its ears. Yeah, yeah, they

1979
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:12,000
the top of the head was sticking out.

1980
01:58:12,119 --> 01:58:12,399
Speaker 3: Yep.

1981
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 2: Ye.

1982
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:14,359
Speaker 3: He'd just gotten.

1983
01:58:14,199 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 5: Covered over over the over the millennia, and somebody dug

1984
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,600
it out and started going, well.

1985
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 3: They also said that if you look at the base

1986
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:25,039
of the when you look the sphinx, the head is

1987
01:58:25,079 --> 01:58:27,680
out of proportion, right, all right. They thought they put

1988
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:31,600
a different head on it. But I taught this guy

1989
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:35,359
who's at the professor u Mass and he proved that

1990
01:58:35,399 --> 01:58:38,880
they were water layers at the bottom of the you

1991
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:42,319
know water. And they said the way water was up

1992
01:58:42,359 --> 01:58:46,439
here unless it was like twenty thirty years ago.

1993
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:50,039
Speaker 5: This was a wetlands back or an ocean. There was

1994
01:58:50,039 --> 01:58:51,039
something came up here.

1995
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:54,079
Speaker 3: And the Egyptians came upon these things, you know, you know,

1996
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:58,560
But yeah, there's I think there's evidence. I think there's

1997
01:58:59,319 --> 01:59:03,359
good evidence that something was happening twenty thirty thousand years ago.

1998
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:06,520
We have no idea. We had no idea. Yeah.

1999
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:08,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's tell you. If I was searching for

2000
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:11,479
the answer, I'd be hanging out at Egypt. Egypt seems

2001
01:59:11,479 --> 01:59:15,159
to be the hotbed. Yeah, the confluence of all these

2002
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:20,800
different strange energy elements, stuff and raw and the whole

2003
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:23,680
gang worship for all kinds of.

2004
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 3: Things four thousand years ago, the bill and pyramids that

2005
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:30,399
are exactly aligned with the you know, I mean, how

2006
01:59:30,439 --> 01:59:31,039
do you know the.

2007
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 5: Specs, the specifications. We were doing it, the specs, and

2008
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:35,359
they knew something.

2009
01:59:36,279 --> 01:59:39,039
Speaker 3: Let's churn this. Let me ask Susan something though. Susan,

2010
01:59:40,119 --> 01:59:45,359
we got a text here. I don't want to say it.

2011
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:47,760
How did you get so pretty?

2012
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:56,399
Speaker 7: The more you drink, the prettier I guess.

2013
01:59:59,119 --> 02:00:03,039
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, how's Rudy? How's Rudy Tody?

2014
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:06,920
Speaker 7: I don't know. I missed him I'm in withdrawal right now.

2015
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 3: Oh you said.

2016
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:11,079
Speaker 7: But a cold down here?

2017
02:00:11,119 --> 02:00:13,439
Speaker 6: How about up there for you guys in Florida.

2018
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cold up here. Yeah, yeah, winters this morning. Yeah.

2019
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:20,239
Speaker 4: I heard some people at the bar here at this

2020
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:23,560
start with Gally talk about is in Florida.

2021
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:28,359
Speaker 3: Ye happened real quick, right now, yeah, very quick, very

2022
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,720
It was like sixty five last week and there was

2023
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:35,439
nice and then boom here it is. But it is no.

2024
02:00:37,279 --> 02:00:39,760
So well listen now, I don't I'm believing you want

2025
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:41,880
to kind of the end the show.

2026
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we should wrap it.

2027
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 3: Let's clamp for ourselves only because there's nothing else to do. Alice,

2028
02:00:50,399 --> 02:00:51,760
ordering on drinks? Where do you go?

2029
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:55,359
Speaker 4: What to take a leak?

2030
02:00:55,640 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 7: Us?

2031
02:00:57,600 --> 02:00:58,359
Speaker 3: Alright? Let me think.

2032
02:00:58,399 --> 02:00:59,479
Speaker 4: I just hope he puts it back.

2033
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,479
Speaker 3: Brandy, thank you. That was great, man, that was really,

2034
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:07,520
really good. I would not do that. I don't have

2035
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:10,159
the courage to walk up in these woods in the

2036
02:01:10,159 --> 02:01:12,279
middle of the night, in a hot spot where the

2037
02:01:12,279 --> 02:01:17,079
goat man is, but thank god you do. Thank you, Brandy.

2038
02:01:17,119 --> 02:01:18,119
We're going to clamp for you.

2039
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:22,000
Speaker 7: Thank you.

2040
02:01:22,079 --> 02:01:27,079
Speaker 3: All right. I walked into the room not just for

2041
02:01:27,199 --> 02:01:32,119
your report, for the Sarah Peil. Look, I really didn't

2042
02:01:32,159 --> 02:01:34,800
like her, but she was kind of cute. Thank you,

2043
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:42,479
Thank you, Brandy, Thank you Susan. Thank you Susan for

2044
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:44,399
joining us.

2045
02:01:44,439 --> 02:01:48,279
Speaker 5: My pleasure, especially coming up from you know, yeah, not

2046
02:01:48,359 --> 02:01:52,079
from home, coming up during your trip.

2047
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:55,760
Speaker 3: You're in Florida now, right, correct, that's.

2048
02:01:55,560 --> 02:02:02,079
Speaker 7: Correct, just till Sunday. Hmm tomorrow.

2049
02:02:02,159 --> 02:02:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm going.

2050
02:02:03,119 --> 02:02:08,199
Speaker 7: There's a place down here on a beach. I can't

2051
02:02:08,199 --> 02:02:11,239
think of it. I want to say, Benita Beach. Yeah,

2052
02:02:11,319 --> 02:02:14,840
where you can ride gypsy Vanner horses, which are those

2053
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:20,079
big majestic horses feathers on their feet, and I'm so

2054
02:02:20,159 --> 02:02:21,039
excited about that.

2055
02:02:21,079 --> 02:02:26,199
Speaker 4: What are they called gypsy vanner Gypsy?

2056
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:28,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're gorgeous.

2057
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:32,319
Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, and uh, rudy you send me in a

2058
02:02:32,399 --> 02:02:35,319
texta a day. Rudy attitude. Is that what you really

2059
02:02:35,319 --> 02:02:43,039
call them? Rudy attitude? Yeah, the aude? Yeah. Okay, Well,

2060
02:02:43,119 --> 02:02:46,079
we love him, thank you and we love you. Thank you, Susan,

2061
02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:48,159
thank you.

2062
02:02:48,239 --> 02:02:49,119
Speaker 7: I love being here.

2063
02:02:49,239 --> 02:02:53,079
Speaker 3: Sorry I was late, but no, no, it's okay, Susan

2064
02:02:53,199 --> 02:02:58,119
that you put in a lot to be here. Yes, switch,

2065
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:02,640
we love you too. Let's clap the switch because.

2066
02:03:03,439 --> 02:03:05,039
Speaker 6: Did you want to know what I had for breakfast.

2067
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead, I had a.

2068
02:03:08,239 --> 02:03:10,239
Speaker 6: Super breakfast at tutors this morning.

2069
02:03:10,399 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 3: Send me a picture. Had died in the morning, go ahead,

2070
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:14,960
Well me back crackers.

2071
02:03:16,399 --> 02:03:19,800
Speaker 6: I left a ten ten. Yeah, you're excited. But I

2072
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:22,039
haven't been there much for a while because I'm actually

2073
02:03:22,359 --> 02:03:24,720
cooking at home. So I caught up a little bit.

2074
02:03:25,079 --> 02:03:26,720
Speaker 3: Nice. Okay, you can tell.

2075
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:29,880
Speaker 6: Sometimes the ladies that worked there, they have a rough,

2076
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:33,079
rough day. Sometimes they deserve a tip.

2077
02:03:33,479 --> 02:03:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, good for you. So we're recluding this on Veterans Day.

2078
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:40,039
You'll hear it two weeks later. But I want to

2079
02:03:40,039 --> 02:03:43,119
really thank you. One one is a veteran and also

2080
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:46,159
switches a veteran. Thank you. Really, you know, the thing

2081
02:03:46,279 --> 02:03:49,279
is of a I never went into the service. Okay

2082
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:52,680
at family members who were involved in the service, but

2083
02:03:53,439 --> 02:03:56,359
I just I just would never have made it. But

2084
02:03:56,760 --> 02:04:00,840
I would really anyone who gave up pot of their lives.

2085
02:04:01,159 --> 02:04:03,439
It's like going to high school. But you know, when

2086
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:06,079
you're older, give a party of lives to really, you know,

2087
02:04:06,159 --> 02:04:08,439
sure in the military is a big thing, big thing,

2088
02:04:08,479 --> 02:04:09,479
no matter what you did.

2089
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah to me, it was two years after I graduated

2090
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:13,399
from high school.

2091
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So you're young and then you do and

2092
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:19,279
it's an adventure, you see the world, et cetera. But

2093
02:04:19,359 --> 02:04:21,560
you're really kind of giving up your lives too. When

2094
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:24,439
they it was on the line, you know you're going

2095
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:27,039
to go to war and hopefully defend us. You know,

2096
02:04:27,119 --> 02:04:30,119
so so thank you both of you guys and other

2097
02:04:30,279 --> 02:04:34,439
club was in it to clap again, you know.

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Speaker 6: I want to say that my dad when he he

2099
02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:42,880
went in uh immediately after he hit Hawaii World War two,

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02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:45,680
and because of him, they knew he was coming. When

2101
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:49,159
I went in a few months later, the Iran hostage

2102
02:04:49,199 --> 02:04:53,359
crisis was over switching. We were both badasses and they

2103
02:04:53,439 --> 02:04:54,199
knew we were coming.

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02:04:54,399 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 3: And James, yeah, yeah, yeah, Wow, that's cool. My father

2105
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:01,680
was in World War two in the for four years

2106
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:06,920
on a ship, and my brother was in Vietnam. You know,

2107
02:05:07,039 --> 02:05:10,000
I've had a lot of relevas while you're in the military,

2108
02:05:10,399 --> 02:05:13,720
but it wasn't for me. I don't think I just couldn't.

2109
02:05:14,199 --> 02:05:17,680
I just couldn't survive the military. I don't think al

2110
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,960
could either. But I think one one.

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02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:22,479
Speaker 4: If I could survive the Navy, anybody could.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:29,439
Speaker 5: My dad was one of a group of Italian kids

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02:05:29,479 --> 02:05:33,119
that enlisted probably the day after Pearl Harbor.

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02:05:33,199 --> 02:05:35,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a lot of people and they all went

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02:05:35,439 --> 02:05:35,880
and went.

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02:05:36,319 --> 02:05:40,479
Speaker 5: And what's kind of interesting to me is, you know,

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02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:44,119
the Italians were part of the axis. They took the

2119
02:05:44,159 --> 02:05:47,640
Italian you know kids, and they were in the certain

2120
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:50,600
and then they took the the Japanese Americans and put

2121
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:52,920
them in basically a concentration camp.

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02:05:53,079 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, they put together from Japan. Yeah, and

2123
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:02,119
they went to Italy. They wouldn't get confused, and they

2124
02:06:02,119 --> 02:06:03,000
were really good. Yeah.

2125
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:06,119
Speaker 5: The family a lot of families in Kem. It's funny.

2126
02:06:06,119 --> 02:06:08,359
I was reading a thing the other day, George to

2127
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:09,840
K from Star Trek.

2128
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:10,159
Speaker 4: Yep.

2129
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:14,239
Speaker 5: He wrote a book about his him being a child

2130
02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:18,800
and being put into a determined camp with his family. Yes, yes,

2131
02:06:19,159 --> 02:06:22,560
like he got sent to Arkansas. Yeah right, you know,

2132
02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:25,279
he was an American citizen, but they pulled them into

2133
02:06:26,119 --> 02:06:28,520
and so he wrote a book about it, and it

2134
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:30,600
was banned in Tennessee.

2135
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:35,119
Speaker 3: There was in ni Kansas. But here's the weird thing

2136
02:06:35,119 --> 02:06:37,640
about this, and that was not a thing to do.

2137
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:40,239
But you know, at the being in World War Two,

2138
02:06:40,319 --> 02:06:43,800
they did put a lot of Japanese Americans into you know,

2139
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:47,600
internment camps. There went concentration camps. They were fed well

2140
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:49,920
and but they were kind of put away from the rest.

2141
02:06:50,159 --> 02:06:53,600
And the reason they did that is during World War One, okay,

2142
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:56,760
which only happened twenty years before. There's a lot of

2143
02:06:56,800 --> 02:07:01,399
German sabotages in the United States, and they up like factories,

2144
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:03,560
and you know, there's a lot of sabotage. It won't

2145
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:06,560
take any chance sched during World War one, so right, exactly,

2146
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:09,239
So the beginning World War two, they said, let's not

2147
02:07:09,359 --> 02:07:12,840
take any chances. Round them up, and little Italians go

2148
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:18,560
in and they okay, there's always always a floor of

2149
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:18,960
the plan.

2150
02:07:19,159 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 4: Okay.

2151
02:07:21,079 --> 02:07:26,479
Speaker 3: Anyway, Susan, thanks to you, and Susan, okay, Switchy, you

2152
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:30,039
know what I mean. Switch Thank you Switchy for taking

2153
02:07:30,079 --> 02:07:34,119
time to your busy day to all right my pleasure.

2154
02:07:34,359 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 6: Yes, it's to be busier tomorrow.

2155
02:07:36,119 --> 02:07:38,359
Speaker 3: So seven cats, seven cats.

2156
02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 6: Six right now, we'll see how the seventh one works.

2157
02:07:42,199 --> 02:07:44,560
She may not adjust the other cats, so she may

2158
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:47,079
be an indoor outdoor cat, but at least I can

2159
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:50,800
prevent her from having a litter of kittens in the

2160
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:51,479
middle of the winter.

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02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:55,319
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, am I once again let us know

2162
02:07:55,439 --> 02:07:58,560
if it hits something that's the runner on switchy. So

2163
02:07:58,720 --> 02:08:02,920
with the you know, with the yeah, that's really that.

2164
02:08:03,359 --> 02:08:05,920
Speaker 6: I will be going out to the dreaded T and

2165
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,680
T area, yes where the old Norse power plant used

2166
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:12,760
to stand, at about eleven pm on November fifteenth, to

2167
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:15,479
see if the Garuda will come back.

2168
02:08:16,039 --> 02:08:21,439
Speaker 3: The Garuda is who man, oh that's his name, Garuda.

2169
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:25,079
Speaker 6: Well they John Keel wanted to name his book the

2170
02:08:25,159 --> 02:08:27,520
Year of the Garuda because he saw kind of a

2171
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:32,800
resemblance between the Hindu mythology about the Garuda, that giant bird,

2172
02:08:33,199 --> 02:08:36,680
and what people were supposedly seeing around Point Pleasant and

2173
02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:37,680
in the Ohio Valley.

2174
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:40,399
Speaker 3: The Garuda. Yeah interesting, okay, all right.

2175
02:08:40,319 --> 02:08:44,439
Speaker 6: Well like something that would fight god Zilla something.

2176
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:50,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly that twenty three. Yeah, it's a medical issue.

2177
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:54,439
Thank you, you got Garuda. We'll take that out. Don't worry.

2178
02:08:56,439 --> 02:08:58,479
Speaker 6: If I had my Garuda removed, because you.

2179
02:08:58,399 --> 02:09:02,279
Speaker 3: Know Cat's going to have it and removed tomorrow. Wait

2180
02:09:02,319 --> 02:09:09,920
a minute, Thank you al for join anything, and thank

2181
02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:10,680
you one one.

2182
02:09:11,279 --> 02:09:12,520
Speaker 4: You're welcome. Glad to be here.

2183
02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 3: Last thing, real real, real time, good time.

2184
02:09:15,039 --> 02:09:20,279
Speaker 5: My one of my brothers is a veteran gen and

2185
02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:23,520
uh he went into the service because the judge said

2186
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:27,279
to him, you have two choices. You go in the

2187
02:09:27,319 --> 02:09:30,840
service you're going to. Back in our day, I grew

2188
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:33,399
up with a lot of kids like that. Back in

2189
02:09:33,439 --> 02:09:36,119
our day, you had two choices if you went into

2190
02:09:36,119 --> 02:09:39,039
it before judge. And you know he went to the service.

2191
02:09:39,439 --> 02:09:44,399
So I guess I thank the judge for my brother's service.

2192
02:09:46,319 --> 02:09:49,600
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, thank you, al, thank you, wanne me, thank

2193
02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:49,880
you one.

2194
02:09:50,199 --> 02:09:55,560
Speaker 7: You will go ahead, please thank us we think yes

2195
02:09:55,880 --> 02:09:56,720
for having.

2196
02:09:56,439 --> 02:10:01,119
Speaker 3: Y thank you back. So thank you shit that. So anyway,

2197
02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:05,960
let's get to the plugs. Okay, plugs. First of all,

2198
02:10:06,279 --> 02:10:09,680
Homestruck Troops. Homestong Troops is a organization we've been talking

2199
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:13,720
about for years, literally ten years, where they build homes

2200
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:17,960
for our veterans who were wounded after nine to eleven

2201
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:23,199
Iraqi War I Ran, it was the other Afghanistan. And

2202
02:10:23,279 --> 02:10:26,600
these are people who came back without limbs and they

2203
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:29,920
build these houses were adapted to their needs. Not a

2204
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:32,800
lot of stairs, not a lot of you know, lower

2205
02:10:32,920 --> 02:10:35,560
counters and so on. These people who gave a lot

2206
02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:37,479
up to us and we should give a lot to

2207
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:40,800
them homeshow troops, please just google them see what they're

2208
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:45,279
about ninety cents on your dollar. Goes right. The home

2209
02:10:45,319 --> 02:10:48,760
show Troops homesow Truths a great organization. We've been in

2210
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:52,439
the homes before and I'm telling you they have fantastic homes.

2211
02:10:52,760 --> 02:10:55,880
They're building homes down at Massasoya down the Cape. Okay,

2212
02:10:56,039 --> 02:10:59,840
that is kind of prime real estate in the beautiful homes.

2213
02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:02,960
And they had the when we went to Lois and

2214
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:07,199
I the like volunteers on the Patriots laid down the

2215
02:11:07,239 --> 02:11:12,239
loom on the lawn firm is really good shot troops.

2216
02:11:12,239 --> 02:11:15,399
Please see what they're up to. Also, I have to

2217
02:11:15,439 --> 02:11:17,199
make it and I hate to do it at the

2218
02:11:17,279 --> 02:11:20,960
end of the show, but it's come to my attention

2219
02:11:21,159 --> 02:11:24,479
that you see what happens. We've talked about this before,

2220
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:31,800
is that Apple Podcasts, which like sixty to seventy percent

2221
02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:36,239
of our listeners listen to us on Apple Podcasts. But

2222
02:11:36,359 --> 02:11:39,560
they have a policy where they will put in their

2223
02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:43,000
own ads kind of willing nilling, as the kids say,

2224
02:11:43,600 --> 02:11:47,680
without editing in at the beginning of our podcast in

2225
02:11:47,720 --> 02:11:52,840
the middle at the end. We have no control over this. Okay,

2226
02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:55,560
We've said this before, but it's been brought to my

2227
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:59,359
attention that now they are running ads not just from

2228
02:11:59,479 --> 02:12:03,760
lonely hots clubs and the University of Arizona, but for

2229
02:12:04,039 --> 02:12:08,560
ICE recruitment or recruiting people who want to join ICE.

2230
02:12:09,079 --> 02:12:11,399
I want to say right now, we have nothing to

2231
02:12:11,479 --> 02:12:15,439
do with this, Okay, this is completely on our hands. Okay,

2232
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:19,600
And don't want to get political, but you know, we

2233
02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:22,319
know what ICE is doing. ICE is, you know, is

2234
02:12:22,359 --> 02:12:27,039
like you know, the vibe now is that they are

2235
02:12:27,079 --> 02:12:32,039
picking up the most vulnerable people in our society. And

2236
02:12:32,119 --> 02:12:37,119
that's not the American thing to do. Okay, So you know,

2237
02:12:37,239 --> 02:12:40,319
we have no control over this. And frankly, if if

2238
02:12:40,359 --> 02:12:44,840
an ICE recruitment ad appeals to you, just don't listen

2239
02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:48,960
to us anymore. Okay, it's non American. I'm sorry. It's

2240
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:52,399
not American to pick on the people who have the

2241
02:12:52,520 --> 02:12:56,640
least amount of power, Okay. And on top of that

2242
02:12:56,960 --> 02:13:01,199
are veterans. Okay. There are people who are things now

2243
02:13:01,319 --> 02:13:05,039
who want to change Veterans Day to like War Victory

2244
02:13:05,119 --> 02:13:08,840
Day or some freaking thing. Okay, Veterans Day is to

2245
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:12,800
it's to commemorate the end of World War One, but

2246
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:17,880
it's also to commemorate veterans through all. I was, Okay,

2247
02:13:18,439 --> 02:13:21,319
why would you take that away. Why would you take

2248
02:13:21,319 --> 02:13:23,880
that away anyway? Once again, as.

2249
02:13:24,079 --> 02:13:26,439
Speaker 6: I got to say, I respectfully disagree with you ahead

2250
02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:29,319
on the ice, they are actually getting rid of some

2251
02:13:29,359 --> 02:13:30,680
pretty reprehensible people.

2252
02:13:30,720 --> 02:13:32,960
Speaker 3: Listen. I'm all for getting rid of people who are

2253
02:13:33,039 --> 02:13:36,199
drug deals and murders and stuff like that. I'm okay,

2254
02:13:36,199 --> 02:13:39,319
all right, but we did. I looked at the stats today,

2255
02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:42,960
and just in Texas, where you would think that this

2256
02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:46,920
would be a big, big problem, Okay, less than twenty

2257
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:52,319
five percent of the crimes committed in Texas committed by

2258
02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:56,239
let's say, undocumented aliens. I don't want to get into this,

2259
02:13:56,600 --> 02:13:59,640
but it's a very very low number, and the people

2260
02:14:00,399 --> 02:14:03,840
are inflating that number just to get you mad at

2261
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:07,880
these people who, for the most part, are just innocent

2262
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:10,159
people who have come to this country to make more

2263
02:14:10,239 --> 02:14:13,119
money to send back to their families. Now, I know

2264
02:14:13,560 --> 02:14:15,560
there are a lot of people who you know, up

2265
02:14:15,600 --> 02:14:17,920
the high drinks and so on and so forth. I'm

2266
02:14:17,960 --> 02:14:21,479
all for getting rid of them, but you don't get

2267
02:14:21,600 --> 02:14:26,039
rid of, like, you know, two bad guys, for getting

2268
02:14:26,079 --> 02:14:29,319
rid of, you know, in the in the course of

2269
02:14:29,399 --> 02:14:33,920
sweeping one hundred people. Okay, this is just not the

2270
02:14:33,960 --> 02:14:37,680
American thing to do. You don't pick on the weak,

2271
02:14:38,399 --> 02:14:42,319
weakest people. You don't, it's not the American thing to do.

2272
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:47,520
And the tactics and they're on TV. I'm sorry, it's

2273
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:48,520
like the freaking.

2274
02:14:48,399 --> 02:14:50,840
Speaker 4: Maybe there's one in there that was a bad guy. Yeah,

2275
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:53,279
so you get to sweep a whole shitload of people

2276
02:14:53,359 --> 02:14:54,840
and kids and stuff.

2277
02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:57,399
Speaker 3: Get rid of the murderers. You don't have to separate

2278
02:14:57,600 --> 02:15:00,239
families from the kids and all that ship and man,

2279
02:15:00,319 --> 02:15:04,840
and it's just political. It's political. It's non American. It's

2280
02:15:04,840 --> 02:15:07,439
not Americans. It's also non America. What they're doing to

2281
02:15:07,479 --> 02:15:11,479
our veterans. Okay, this is stuff we know. They they

2282
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:15,720
laid off seventy five thousand people in the Veterans Administration.

2283
02:15:16,159 --> 02:15:19,560
The Veterans Administration was already you know, you know they're

2284
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:22,920
trying to get you know, the care and so on

2285
02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:25,960
to our veterans and they cut them out. How do

2286
02:15:26,039 --> 02:15:28,479
you think that the care to our veterans is going

2287
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:31,119
to improve if you get rid of like one quarter

2288
02:15:31,159 --> 02:15:35,479
of the workforce, seventy five thousand people. It's not okay,

2289
02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:38,279
they're going to tell veterans to go to urgent care

2290
02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:42,039
in your neighborhood. This is not how we treat these people.

2291
02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:45,760
It's not sorry, it's.

2292
02:15:45,600 --> 02:15:47,960
Speaker 7: Not American Suicide Hotline too.

2293
02:15:48,159 --> 02:15:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, and everything important, degrading the

2294
02:15:53,800 --> 02:15:58,800
people that we should respect most. I'm sorry. Anyway, this

2295
02:15:58,960 --> 02:16:02,159
is back for the entire gang, saying tears. Next time,

2296
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:08,439
please be safe, be happy, and and bye bye mhm