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to die from. We've quite a shoe for you tonight.
But first let me introduce the members of the posse. Girls.
Sit yourself down, start fanning yourself. Open up that big
box of clinics. That big box of wipes is squeegee
any load.
Speaker 4: Put batteries in that appliance right away, or.
Speaker 3: At least charge them up. Because the very famous Wan
one is here. Wan.
Speaker 4: Hello Mac, Hello everybody. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, all ships
at sea, Welcome to the show. I'm glad to be here.
I'm glad to be anywhere as a matter of fact.
And here we are at the Starboard Galley. We're inundated
by lobsters. I'm surprised they're not crawling around on the
floor every time I Yet every time we come in
here on Tuesday, it's a lobster festival night, twin lobsters
for like a measly priced It's unbelievable. And I always
think of the Woody Allen movie Andy Hall put the
lobster in the pot.
Speaker 3: Lopster of the pot sounds onely curly, but yes, you
remember that. I don't know.
Speaker 5: We may be overrun with lobsters, but at least we
don't have any crabs.
Speaker 3: Hang on, hang on, double tap there. So well, thank
you for money for joining us.
Speaker 4: You're welcome, glad to be here.
Speaker 3: Also in the studio with US Mobile Studio. And the
voice you just heard was our producer Engineer get away
driver be kill her pe killer Uncle Aley, kid, he's
pill we mac hell everybody. Bees were actually flying the
other day it was like fifty five degrees out. Well
they did not.
Speaker 5: They're not flying today because it's freezing out, very cold. Yeah, yeah,
they were out. I was really surprised because I start
a couple. I walked by a bird bath and there
were probably about fifty bees a drink.
Speaker 4: Wow, wow, that's awesome. What's the survival rate of bees
during the the typical New England winter zero?
Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of things, a lot of
issues that happen. Is the biggest problem with the bees
right now, I think called the Verroa mites, their mice
that get into the hive and they feed off the bees.
Especially they go into the cells where they lay the
eggs and they feed off the larva and they make
the larva deformed. They can't fly right, so they can
really beat up a hive and that's crazy.
Speaker 4: That's the only that's the only stuff that when I
hear it explained by al or anybody that maintains animals
for a living or just for fun, that something's not
right in the world, that this that this kind of
crap is allowed to happen. I know, it's nature. A
lot of nature's got to do its thing, and it's
because we've interfered with the balance of nature.
Speaker 5: But things like that, if these mice came from somewhere
on a high you know, that was imported from somewhere
and took a foothold here, I don't know. I mean,
I know they weren't around years ago because survival rates
fifteen years ago were double triple what they are now.
So they were legal immigrants. They were brought in somehow.
And you know, bees are funny. I don't want to
get the whole truck thing, but bees are very opportunistic.
So if if let's say, the mites destroy a hive
and kill everybody off, or they all take off and
like another bee in the area flying by will smell
the honey or you know, the hive and go in
and check it out, and then he'll get the the
mites on him, and he'll go back to his hive
and infect them. So because they're opportunistic, it kind of
is like crabs. You know, they get it and it
don't go away. Okay, it's unbelievable. That's treatments, but the
treatment's poison. You really want to put it in a hive?
You're collect?
Speaker 3: Honey? No, that's be talk.
Speaker 4: Awful.
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us out.
Speaker 4: No, gonna have nightmares about it.
Speaker 3: Glad to be also with us down there. My sister's
tank top, West Virginia correspondent switch Blade Steve Wood Switching.
Speaker 6: Great to be here tonight, Mac.
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 6: How are you so far? That's that's all I got.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 6: Well, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 3: Hold on the big night from Switching. Okay, I said,
nothing new down there. Switch It's going to be the
anniversary of the Mockman signing or something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, in a few days, the fifty ninth anniversary
of that first major sighting, not the actual first sighting,
but the one that chased the two couples down Route
sixty two out of the T and T area right
by my house.
Speaker 3: Yep. Okay, well that's something. So everything else is okay though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm kind of cleaning and organizing. That's uh, that's
loads of fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what are you expecting company.
Speaker 6: Or well, you know, it could happen at this point.
It's a messy if somebody says, hey, can I come
in and use your bathroom? Now there's a gas station
down the street. Wow, okay, it's cleaner.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well another look into switches life.
Speaker 7: Why would somebody just come along and ask to use
your bathroom?
Speaker 6: I was going to say, no, no, not just somebody,
I mean, like like somebody I actually know. Oh, I'm sorry,
I know you and I and I love you, and
I know you have a matter of urgency, but right
now you better use the gas station.
Speaker 4: Back in the old days, is peous to stop by
and say can I use your phone?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, at least see.
Speaker 5: One of the scams going around now is like if
you post a car for sale, let's say, on marketplace, yes,
and if people come to your house and they want
to look at it, yes, And they'll be out there
and the wife will say to you, you mind if
I use your bathroom?
Speaker 7: Up?
Speaker 5: And then she goes in and rifles your benison cabinet
steals all your prescription drugs and then they go, you know,
before you realize it, and they go, we weren't interested, have
a nice day, and they drive away.
Speaker 3: I have friends that happened to What did they have
in that? I mean, it all depends on what you
have in your well. He had had our knees and
hip replacements, oxy contons. You had a lot of good
stuff in there, and so they scored with him. Yeah,
well they made.
Speaker 4: Some good oxy coton and tramadol.
Speaker 3: All right, kids, don't do this at home. Also with us,
where's the good news here? The club is going to
join us soon. And also Susan.
Speaker 6: Kay, I'm not getting my oxy cotton Okay?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't have any, but I'm not getting
it up there in Wisconsin. And Fingerlan is a good friend.
Brandy Eggs, Brandy, how are you? Hi?
Speaker 7: Everybody? I'm great, and I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 3: Well, we're excited to But I have to comment on
your look. You look exactly and I don't like her.
I don't agree with her politically, you know, intellectually you
look just like Sarah Palin, doesn't she a younger version
of she? Probably hates uncle. Thank you a young pretty version.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the other hairstyle that's borrowed from.
Speaker 3: Sixties R and B girl groups. Yes, yeah, okay, is
that what you're looking for? Wherever it came from?
Speaker 7: I really wasn't. It was it was like, I got
to wash my hair when we're done. It was, you know,
grossing me out, so I just put it up.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, all right, maybe it's excellent maybe tm I,
but all right, So anyway, so, uh, you know, we
have a lot of number of things get to night,
but also joining us up there and the is styla
up in upstate New York sideways. The ark is uh
lonely Larry, and he insisted that we clapped for him
because oh no, he needs the attention. So how are
you there? Double l Well?
Speaker 8: I also just washed my air coincidentally.
Speaker 6: Really yeah, he didn't put it up.
Speaker 8: It's still driving it up with you guys didn't give
me enough time. So I'm thrilled to be here. It's
been it's been a long time. I figured you're just
but we did.
Speaker 3: But we uh we never hours twenty minutes to kill,
so here you are. So anyway, he's been bugging me. Okay,
for he fed months, if not years. Let me come
on the show. I can be funny. Let me do
a bit, you know I mean, and you know you
can only put him off so long, you know what
I mean? Right, but he delivers, right, No, I keep
putting them off. But anyway, so he doesn't close the
deal we needed. We needed to kill some time. So
I said, okay, so he has a bit, so we
don't have any music. Maybe we'll put some music behind
it though, Larry. But Larry, please, you know, let me
throw it to you as the kids say.
Speaker 8: Okay, you know, you know, as you know, I'm a
big fan of going out to diners for breakfast, and
this morning I happened. This is as an aside. This
morning I was I went to a diner and I
the the waitress came over and I said, I'd like
to ask about the menu please, And she said, sir,
the men I please are none of your business.
Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, hold on, go ahead, oach ouch. Yeah.
Speaker 6: The name of this diner not for me, but for
other people that might want to know.
Speaker 8: It's the Pantheon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, go ahead, Yeah all right, yeah, good start there, Larry, go.
Speaker 8: But but I want to talk about industry nicknames.
Speaker 3: Industry nicknames in the street.
Speaker 8: You what I'm talking about. You know, the companies that
comprise the petroleum industry are big oil.
Speaker 3: Right, Big oil, yep?
Speaker 8: And you got you got big pharma, big tobacco, right yep.
But most of these appellations don't get much.
Speaker 3: Attention at all. And the all right, I mean, okay,
go ahead.
Speaker 8: Yes, so I spent some time researching this. I'm retired,
so I get to do these things, okay, And so
so I'm gonna I'm proud to present the top ten
industry nicknames you've probably never heard of.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, here we go, okay, eight minutes ahead.
Speaker 8: Who make up the dental profession?
Speaker 3: Eight minutes to be hilarious? Go ahead, big mouth, say
it again. I'm sorry I stepped on it.
Speaker 8: The fraternity of sadists who make up the dental profession.
Speaker 3: The dental profession, Go ahead, big mouth, big mouth, Yes, wow, delicious,
it's just.
Speaker 8: Poultry cabal that recently conspired to raise egg prices across
the country, big bird.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
Speaker 8: Supply us you're gonna just keep talking over me.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to be trying to be funny here,
but go ahead, there's no other way to do it.
Speaker 8: Companies that supply us with tropical fruit, big banana.
Speaker 3: Big banana. Okay, all right, you know, maybe go ahead.
Speaker 8: The consideration of men and women who run the Las
Vegas poker and blackjack tables.
Speaker 3: Big deal, big deal, big deal. Okay, all right, how
many more?
Speaker 8: The Brotherhood of Proctologists number six?
Speaker 3: All right, alright, go ahead, he's building this.
Speaker 8: This should appeal to because I heard I heard some
uh mention of that Sasquat anniversary a moment ago. And
my wife, by the way, who's a huge Bigfoot fan,
was in the room to hear that. So anyway, the
doctors who treat our our bunyan's hangnails and corns.
Speaker 3: Bigfoot, Bigfoot. Does everyone understand that what he's going for
here is oil companies who go out big oil, you know,
the big, big front of stuff. Okay, just halfway through,
we got to explain it a game. Go ahead.
Speaker 8: Number four. And the pool halls, equipment makers and tournament
operators and others who make up the billiards industry Big balls.
Number three. The sweaty, grass stained laborers who maintain our landscapes,
big head clipper. And that's that's one. That that's one
that goes way back between McAfee about forty years the
inside with another big headge clipper story.
Speaker 4: I thought big grass or something.
Speaker 3: You were in the number.
Speaker 8: Two the pharmer companies that specialize in E D treatments
Dick and this is this is a new one. Uh
and and and actually Mac brought this to my attention.
The bunch of U conservatives in down in Austin were
complaining that the people who serve the people who live
out on the streets were were striking it rich from
the incentive the the government programs that uh that served
disadvantaged people.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 8: So they coined the term big homeless.
Speaker 3: I don't like that one, no, but that's true. That's
what's weird about. Okay, okay, Larry, Well, let's clap for
him only because if not, he'll be pissed. I guess
it'd be something, well, thanks, Larry. What else can we say? No,
it's only upward for me.
Speaker 8: By the way, By the way, big homeless was max idea.
I woke up one morning to email with that subject line.
Speaker 4: So, jeez, doubt it. I doubt it.
Speaker 3: Don't blame it on me, Okay, all right, if it flaows,
don't worry. Just keep at it and you'll be successful someday.
Speaker 8: You know, you know, I'm my My pool match started
five minutes ago. I'm going to be late because of you,
because of you, but anything for a good cause.
Speaker 3: Okay, didn you win like fifteen hundred bucks? You won?
Speaker 8: Yeah, my team won fifteen hundred bucks in an April
tournament in Niagara Falls last week?
Speaker 3: Really? Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you.
Speaker 8: It's Canadian fifteen hundred bucks.
Speaker 7: So you know.
Speaker 3: What is it? Like? How much is it us? When?
Is it more or less?
Speaker 8: Seventy dollars?
Speaker 3: Oh? Really? Yeah? That much for disco? Uh okay, all right,
well Larry, go play your quote unquote pool and uh,
you know, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 8: I guess well, thank you for having me as always,
all right.
Speaker 3: And you know what while you were gone in the
run up, your cat actually put his ass up to
the camera literally to train him to do that, and
his tail was up too. Yeah yeah, yeah, disgusting man.
Speaker 4: He might have been putting his scent on your camera.
Speaker 3: That's that's a possibility he was mooning us. Well, oh
she is Oh get him all right, Okay.
Speaker 8: There, but she won't show you. Okay, well, okay, the.
Speaker 4: Love the cat, I love the cat.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Larry, thank you, And let's clap him again,
because then how can we miss him with he won't
go away?
Speaker 8: All right, have a good show, guys, okay, luck good well, okay,
lonely Larry, everybody.
Speaker 3: There's a burging comic, right can you see him in
the stand up?
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask him Jets the Patriots.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't know, He didn't know if the football is
blown up a forward feathers anyway? Okay? So here, yeah,
and uh is he frozen or did he have a stroke.
Speaker 9: He's listening to I think he's just pissed at your comment.
Well he looks bad. Uh anyway, So why don't we pivot?
As the kids say? And uh there he goes?
Speaker 3: Switch? You ever report? Yes?
Speaker 6: I do?
Speaker 3: Okay, why don't we gone try into switches report right
instead of okay?
Speaker 6: Do you think we could take a brief time out
before we do that?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 6: Why because just just because I'll be more comfortable we're
doing my report if we can have a brief time out.
Speaker 3: Oh well, let's go to a commercial then, I mean,
there's nothing.
Speaker 6: Ex right, so correct idea.
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Oh my goodness, what's that for me?
Speaker 6: That one?
Speaker 10: On?
Speaker 3: Thank you? Thank you? Wow? Oh man. Now I can
smell that. That's all I can smell. Anyway. Welcome back
to Mac Maloney's mill Track's not show here in the
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shoe if he we have a die? But let me
introduce the members of the place very quickly. Girls one
one is here.
Speaker 4: Hello Max, Hello everybody, Hello girls, especially welcome back to
the show. Well, I love being here. It's it's a
lot of energy here tonight.
Speaker 3: You wanted a bowl of French onion soup? I did
once you do.
Speaker 4: That about five minutes ago, ordered the beers.
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, okay, good people, we'll good to eat it.
Don't mind to.
Speaker 5: A cool off a little bit too. Wow, it looks
so good. But they put it on the table right
next to Max and torture them. You know, yeah, I appreciate. Well,
originally we was on your table. Well it came to me,
but I'm not a big fan of French onion soup.
Show didn't bother me.
Speaker 3: Well I am, yeah, I know you are so anyway, okay,
all right, thank you for sharing well with others. As
a woman, You're welcome. All the with us is uncle
ally kiddy's bell.
Speaker 5: Hello mackle, everybody nice, nice and you got the kids.
Speaker 3: Were fixated on it.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 4: There used to be a restaurant they used to drive
by when I lived in upstate New Hampshire and it
was called spoon Victuals. There was a restaurant that just
serve soups.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, yeah, h okay, that's a big word. What's
the second word ventral victual If I haven't right, Brandy,
check me on this. Victuals v I C t U
A L s right sounds to me.
Speaker 4: It's food food that is like like vidles. Yeah, I'm
trying to think of what Latin.
Speaker 5: There was a guy trying to open a restaurant in Keene,
New Hampshire. Yes, and it was like an Asian one
of those noodles. This is bad. And you know what
they call those. The name they give the those news
is foo p h u p h u. They wanted
to be the Foo King Foo King great noodles. They
wanted to call the place yeah, and the town shut
them down and said, no, we're not doing it because
it sounds too much like yeah exactly. They were trying
to be They were trying to be cute with the name,
and it didn't It didn't float, It didn't work.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, not everything works. Also with us is down
there in West Virginia, Senior something correspondent and my sister
thanks to West Virginia. Now this is sad in my opinion.
But he's about to have six cats? Is it? Six cats? No,
I've got six now seven.
Speaker 6: Five of them are rescues.
Speaker 3: All right, let me tell you something.
Speaker 4: You know, and I am. I am happy for you
that they're all rescues or fire. Yeah, yeah, yes, we
need to rescue as many as we can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all are. Hey, listen, switch, you have like
one cat away from an intervention. Okay, so you're going
to cross the line at some point. Why do you
have wives? We'll cast the eager body when the day
of inevitably comes it is okay.
Speaker 6: I compassionate. I love animals and nature, and you know,
if I can save a couple of pur balls here
and there, I'll do it.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, yeah, Al is directing one. How do
we this franchise? I was pointing out with the girl left.
Speaker 6: The bat and I was already around the band anyway,
So it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3: Does Okay? All right, that's okay. Switching.
Speaker 6: You know, if you're if you're already around the band,
hey enjoy it.
Speaker 3: If you got once you're over five, I don't think
it really matters. Yeah, but if you go around the
bell seven cats re evaluate anyway, switching, Thanks for dreaming.
Also with us, is up there in Wisconsin is a
very good friend, Sarah Palin. Let's let's clamp for her.
I mean she can see Alaska from her.
Speaker 7: I can see Russia in my house.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Sounded just like a wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's no joke.
Speaker 3: Your sounded just like dumb and cute. Wow. All right,
well brand that you really you really have that. But
you told us earlier that it was just very kind
of impromptu. It was really well.
Speaker 7: Thank you, and I would like to say that when
you guys make it to Wisconsin to visit, I will
I will personally make all of you your own crop
of French onion soup.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go now, let's cut the shot, take a
full of you, but get on the logan all right, Wow, okay,
let's do that. That would be interesting again of a
Kringle from desser It, right, yeah, yeah, anyway, thanks for
joining us, tonight, Brandy, thank you. I know you have
a report later on. You went to Holy Hill, right,
Holy Hill? Okay? And where is that exactly? Is it
in Wisconsin?
Speaker 7: Mm hmm it's just outside of Milwaukee.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, straight down the street from Holy Crap.
Speaker 3: We're talking about something serious here. Where's my drink? Okay,
So you're gonna be talking about that later on the show.
We're expecting Club and Susan Kay to join us at
some point, so that means we're going to throw it
this switchy, Switchy. I think I actually found you your
bump of music. Let's see what happens, sir. Okay, No,
it's not that, because that's that when the experiment this
is Okay, ready, there it is.
Speaker 10: There you go, And now it's time for another story
from the Lost Annals of the Paranormal. It's time for
Steve Ward's report from the Fringe.
Speaker 3: Wow Pistol Pete after a couple of annakins at the
Thirsty Moose Remember those days? Anyway, switch that was a
good one. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I thought it was going to be the Benny Hill
theme music for a minute.
Speaker 3: Really okay, that pervert? Okay, go ahead please.
Speaker 4: So we had some proclivities that were not up to
a standard, but the guy was funny.
Speaker 3: Up to my standard that I wrote it up. Please Switch,
please you report. Well.
Speaker 6: Tonight we're going to talk about the contact Ease and
some of the sources that will be taking from is
a book called Adanski by Greg Bishop, Contact Ease by
Nick Redfurn, The Flying Saucer of Pilgrimage by Helena and
Bryant Reeve, and also I'll be tapping into the gray
matter up here occasionally. Now interesting because the introduction to
as for a dancecape. They suggest that perhaps the first
contact ee might actually be Immanuel Swetenborg, the scientist and
mystic from the seventeen hundreds. In seventeen fifty eight he
wrote a book called Earth's in the Solar World, and
so he supposedly was contacting people from Jupiter and the
other planets, and one sources he was actually contacting deceased aliens.
He wasn't really talking one on one with anybody. But
also he's supposed to have contacted moonmen and I don't
have too much on that, but that's pretty but.
Speaker 3: You're interesting to think, Switch. I'm sorry, what year is this?
Speaker 6: Seventeen fifty eight.
Speaker 3: So in seventeen fifty eight, there was some guy writing stuff.
Speaker 6: Emmanuel Swittenberg, you know, the great, the great mystic. There's
the Swingenborg Bord religion and uh, the you know, just
it's really pretty pretty fascinating guy.
Speaker 3: Seventeen fifty He's.
Speaker 6: Written volumes and volumes of stuff about these, all these
conversations with these entities. But this is something that has
gone on for decades now. Alistair Crowley heard English occultist
and total whack job proudly well in the early nineteen hundreds.
He is supposed to have done some kind of ritual
and contacted an entity named Lamb l A M. And
this guy looked a little bit like a modern day
gray but with skinny eyes. And he is supposed to
have created an opening where this thing could come through. Now,
sometime later, this is almost going to be kind of
a stream of consciousness thing. We've heard of Jack Parsons.
He was a rocket scientist, a chemist, and another whack job.
He supposedly he used some of Crowley's incantations allegedly and
opened a doorway to usher in UFOs. Uh. But I
should go back a little bit here in the seventeenth century,
there was an Elizabethan magician, doctor John Deeve, who actually
was supposed to have conjured up that fallen angels that
are mentioned in the Book of Enoch, and he claimed
that he conjured up little men that were wandering around
in a fiery cloud. That sounds a little bit off
off the hinge, but anyway, back to Parsons, he was.
They used a lot of Crowley's ideas. He was kind
of his protege i guess, and he Parsons joined with
l Ron Hubbard, the guy that created scientology, and they
were conducting supposedly these Inachian rituals, and in the Mojave
Desert in nineteen forty six, some accounts say that they
actually contacted a Venusian in the Mojave Desert, and many
believed that they opened up another dimensional doorway that brought
in the modern day Ufo Eralines. But it is interesting
that shortly after we had the Kenneth Arnold settings in
June of nineteen forty seven over Washington State. Yes, and
also meant shortly following a very controversial course. A lot
of people still don't believe it was really anything extraterrestrial,
but Roswell followed shortly after that in July. Now, now,
mediums have always claimed to be able to contact ascended
mass and other intelligences, including Martian space people, and this,
like I say, goes back a long ways. Now there's
a whole There are just dozens and dozens of contactings.
We're just gonna touch on a few of them. A
lady named Dana Howard one of the few female contacties,
there were a few of them. In nineteen thirty nine
she first had this contact, she said, with a Venusian
named Diane, and it was often in the forest. This woman,
very tall woman.
Speaker 8: Had a.
Speaker 6: Like on her head, was like a radiant crown of fire,
very similar to a Marian apparition. And this entity ascended
a ladder into the light. And then many years later,
in nineteen fifty five, she was at a with a
medium at the Church of Divine Light, Reverend Candle Candler,
and Diane from being this shows up in a seance?
Is this is this supposedly this extraterrestrial manifest during a seance.
So it's interesting that you have you know, you have
the you have the channeling, you have the supposedly physical
contact with with entities. This one came through a seance.
Speaker 3: You mean you now you mean she was there? Are
they contacted her through the seance?
Speaker 6: No, she was the this this was a supposedly in
some of these uh uh. Some mediums are supposed to
be mediums that can physically manifest uh, physical beings, not
just they're really there, not just blow the trumpets or whatever.
Speaker 3: So there's like the seven foot woman showed up at
the seance. Is that what you said?
Speaker 6: That's that's well, that's the story.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay?
Speaker 6: And uh and and Dana Howard wrote several books. She
was one of the ones that we show up at
the Giant Rock conventions, which we'll talk about it a
little bit later. And uh also, uh, should we take a.
Speaker 3: Pause to introduce our it's gonna there's a great goes
into that, but I'm not going to do it because
we're gonna clap around right now because joining us hot
is Susan Kay super fan. Did she hear us? Probably not? Okay,
all she's waving that means.
Speaker 4: Yet, Okay, we can see her from the neck down.
Speaker 3: Let's say the neckdown, okay.
Speaker 4: Which is fine with me, but that's okay.
Speaker 3: The camera up a bit one you want to hear. Wow,
Susan Kay joining us? Hot, how are you? You have
a beautiful face, beautiful face.
Speaker 7: Frustrated, but I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, Well we're happy you made it. We're all here,
as you can tell.
Speaker 4: So that worked out what we're talking about, Susan jo, Yep.
Speaker 3: Have a script and all that crazy stuff really worked.
Do you believe it?
Speaker 7: I thought that came automatically nowadays, but one.
Speaker 3: One new one.
Speaker 4: No, No, they don't come out of it. You get
notified of it a thousand times.
Speaker 3: It's so you're using a mac.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's my father in law's computer. Otherwise it'd
be my little iPad and I'd have to hold it
and yeah, but it's it's a connected to a laptop.
That's why I'm having to look up to see you guys.
Speaker 3: So confusing. All right, Well you're welcome, Glad you're with us.
We're in the middle of switches every port and uh,
I'm sorry switch you know how that goes. You made
an entrance though, so switchy pot too.
Speaker 6: Okay, Part two, Uh, continue continuing with the contact these now.
Nineteen fifty two was kind of a pivotal year for
all this stuff. That's the year November twentieth, nineteen fifty two,
Georgia Danski claimed to have contacted a Venusian in the
California desert, and supposedly there were several witnesses, including George
Hunt Williamson, who will talk about momentarily. Danski actually lived
on Mount Palomar near Mount Palomar Observatory, and he had
two telescope He was just an amateur astronomer. They called
him Professor A Danski, and he didn't seem to try
to discourage people from thinking he might actually be a professor.
But he took photos of flying saucers and they were
actually published in an early issue of Fate magazine, articles
entitled I photographed spaceships. He gave lectures and so forth,
and of course that famous meeting. He was supposed to
have contacted Orthon in the desert and they had this conversation.
Later on, he is supposed to have had other contacts.
Now nineteen fifty three, George Van Tassel.
Speaker 3: And I jump in, I jump in switch.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we hear this guy's name a lot Georgia
and Dampski, right, have you ever seen what Venus looks like.
You know, Venus is they landed, The Russians landed a
capsule there, you know, many many years ago. It landed
and it survived like about seventeen seconds. So it's because
it's so hot there. It's it's a planet that's completely
covered in clouds and that keeps the heat in. It's
closer to the sun. So I mean, like stuff melts
on the you know, on the surface.
Speaker 4: You wonder how the planet survives.
Speaker 3: I wonder how this guy made it from Venus to
talk to Georgia Dampski. And the weird thing is, like
you said before, you know what people see. What that
one person say in the woods was like something like
a Marian apparition, which is, you know, the the the
appearance of the blessed Virgin Mary. Okay, christ Small. So
I just wanted to ask Brandy, you would know this
in in you know, Fatima and and lords and stuff
like that. Does the person ever actually say the mother
of yeah like stuff like that. Do they ever actually
say I'm the mother of Jesus christ I That's a
good question.
Speaker 7: I don't know, you.
Speaker 3: Know, if they don't, then right exactly, you know, what's
the difference between this and and and what this person
say in the woods? You know, it's the same thing.
It's how people you'll label it all.
Speaker 4: I think if you're married, you can make references to
the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ by other ways.
Speaker 7: Yes, at Lord's the blessed woman said I'm the Immaculate Conception.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 7: I mean that's to an uneducated girl who didn't know
what the Immaculate Conception was. OK So that's not really
saying exactly.
Speaker 3: I'm the mother of I mean maybe these things appear,
maybe women appear, you know what I mean, and whatever
culture they appear to.
Speaker 5: They bring it into what they know. Yeah, exactly, they
bring it to their context of what you're right. The
only thing it could be is that what they really
that's their culture?
Speaker 3: What are they really? That's the weird thing anyway? Switch Sorry,
go ahead please, Okay.
Speaker 6: Now there's a lot more cans say about a Damski,
but I'm kind of there's a lot to cover here,
so I'm kind of skirting over him. Very interesting that
Ray Stanford, who was one of the ones that investigated
the Socorro New Mexico landing. He and his brother met
adan Ski when they were teenagers. Excuse me, they were
kind of starry eyed teenagers. They were believe his books,
and then they found out he was kind of a fraud.
But anyway, the thing about Venus is the more that
we would learn about the planets, the more the stories
would change. For example, a valiant Thor who Frank Strangers
claimed that he met at the Pentagon Valiant Thor was
supposed to be a Venusian. Well, he came from inside Venus,
Edwards said. And also there's another contact, which I won't
be getting into much. I forget what her real name was,
but she called herself olmec on Neck or something like that,
where she was supposed to have been reincarnated into a
little girl from Venus and so forth. But the Venus
she talked about was on a different vib vibratory level,
so it didn't matter that it was super hot. It
was in kind of a it was Venus, but sort
of another dimension away from that. So there's always a
way out, but moving on.
Speaker 3: No matter how complicated.
Speaker 6: And yes, right, Georgecastle nineteen fifty three. Again, the giant
Rock this is, and I wish I had been able
to attend some of these great contact e conventions. Uh.
Gray Barker's got a great book called Gray Barker A
Giant Rock, and he talks about the time when he
and James Moseley of Saucer News drove out in I
think nineteen seventy uh to Giant Rock and he kind
of uh uh. He talks about all the people he
met there. He takes some liberties because some of the
people that he met there he met earlier years. But
it makes it all kind of flow together. We're just
fascinating to hear about these people.
Speaker 3: Where is it? Where is Big Rock.
Speaker 6: Desert Center, California Rock. This is kind of a hot
spot for all these claims.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, okay, cool And.
Speaker 6: That the Giant Rock had it had living quarters underneath.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 6: He used to uh uh. He used to do channeling
underneath there, and he was one of the early guys
that channeled ashtar and all kinds of entities supposedly flying overhead.
But you know, some of the interesting things are when
you when you uh, people would say, uh, we would
be talking to the entity through George and they say, well,
can you can we see you? Can you can you
land your spaceship here and he say, well, if you
go outside and look toward the west, you'll see our ships.
And they, sure enough, they would go outside and at
least they would see some kind of anomalous lights out there.
And this has happened several times with different like the
the the Raw Contacts that like the Egyptian Raw Are
and with Carlo Rukhart and so forth. That's the same
kind of phenomenon. Uh. But uh, he was and other
people like George, like Trevor James Constable, who's the guy
that also supposedly channeled Ashtar for a while.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: He learned how to channel from George van Tassel and
from going to his uh his events. And it's interesting
because I have a bunch of correspondents between Gray Barker
and Trevor James Constable when Gray Barker was republishing his
book They Live in the Sky, when he's talking about
photographing these these sky critters with infrared photography. Eventually Trevor
James Constable started to believe that these, uh, these channeling
sessions were deceptive and he kind of shied away from it.
But uh, anyway, it's just very interesting that Georgia Danski
actually showed I just lost his name. The guy that
investigated Scorn now Mexico, Ray Stanford showed him how he
faked some of his photographs, you know, and he said,
he totally said, boys, you know, I don't have to
U who travel in spaceships because you know, telepathically, he
knew what was going on out there. So okay, so
they really they were really kind of disappointed. But uh,
and one of the one of the another key figure
and all this is George Hunt Williamson. He's allegedly one
of the witnesses that saw Damski far off talking to
somebody in the desert. Supposedly they saw a craft fly
over and uh, but then George Fantastle got into channeling
and a Dampski thought that channeling was bunk. It's like,
you know, his his way of just talking one on
one to the Venusians was was good, but you know,
channeling was nonsense.
Speaker 3: But in the end, there's which he George is he
is he legit? Is he a fraud? No? What is
he was a fraud?
Speaker 6: And uh? Interesting, Well it's uh, you know when you
get into the uh, there's this great book called the
Flying Saw for Pilgrimage by Helen Bryant Reeve, and they
were heading the Detroit Flying Saucer Club in the middle fifties,
and they invited Georgia Danscy to come and speak there.
They were just very impressed with him, and they had
many of the other contactees, including Desmond Leslie who was
the co author with the dan Ski in his first
book and back. It's great to read this book because
you just I just suspend judgment and kind of flow
with it, because they this was a time period when
people really didn't know what was true and what wasn't.
I mean, they would have people like Edward Rupelp, who
was the head of Project Blue Book, who was very legitimate,
but then they'd have these other contactees that were obviously
spinning some wild tales or perhaps they actually even believed.
Speaker 3: It when another erago, you don't know what to believe
me is driving me crazy, and everything else and all
the political bullshit out there and everything, you don't know
what to believe. You don't know what to believe. When
you newsfeed, you know half it is like you know,
like well what really, you know?
Speaker 4: I read my news feed every morning on the throne.
I'm going, you know, because I believe this or that,
please switch, especially with the the Atolas.
Speaker 6: Another interesting name in all this is a man named
Arthur Bryant from England. I believe he was a groundskeeper
and he claimed the landing of a spaceship like a
Venusian scout ship April twenty fourth, nineteen sixty five. This
is just a few days after George and Damski has died.
Now yet he claims that these three Venusians stepped out.
One was kind of a young man, right, and they
were they said he called. He said his name was
Yamski and he was looking for des Les now des
les Is desbond Leslie. And this is this is called
the Sorryton Mystery, and it's a fascinating book. Bryant was
was full of crap, but there was all kinds of
people during this time period. People were seeing all kinds
of strange lights they had, There were voices being imprinted
on real to real tape players. So there seemed to
be in poltergeist phenomena. There seemed to be along with
some of the fraud, there's some real paranormal activity was
going on, right, Yeah, something Jacques O let you eve
Ben talked about.
Speaker 3: See you have to That's that's what I mean. You
have to cut through all this, you know, bs man,
which is really kind of thick, you know, to get that.
You know, maybe things did happen, Maybe people did meet
these people in the desert, and like you say, we
assume they're from somewhere else. We assume the evenutionans. But
it's the same string that runs along goof O stuff
and religious stuff and everything. You know, people see these visions.
Speaker 4: They all can't be drunk.
Speaker 3: They all can't be drunk. They all can't be hoaxed.
Speaker 4: Do we need a third interpreter? Do we need another
witness to some confirm these sightings and these entities and
everything else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the same thing going on. It's just how people interpret.
Speaker 6: It that some of these may have actually been CIA
inspired messing with people using LSD and Cedric o'lingham no,
not him, or Fheil Angel Lucy might have been a victim,
so there could have been some tampering there.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 6: Cedric o'lingham wrote a book called A Flying Saucer from
Mars and uh it's it's it's a real hoot. I mean,
you've got a photograph of the Martian kind of walking away,
and of course it's blurry, and they make a very
long story and he even had a supposedly like one
one was mentioning. A guy named Jerome Duncan, a fisherman,
is supposed to have cooperated this event. But it turns
out that Cedric Olingham was a fiction astronomer, Sir Patrick Moore,
who had a some kind of a radio show where
he would interview people. He even interviewed a Danski and
Desmond Leslie. He was just messing with everybody. He thought,
he knew it was all a bunch of bunks. So
he creates this this uh uh contact with a Martian
by the fictional citrical Lingam and uh And later on
you find out a guy named Peter David was stepped
in as the Martian and also stepped in as the
ass as a Lingam, the fake a lingam.
Speaker 7: Yes.
Speaker 6: Then and another interesting one, Orphiel ange Lussi. He's one
that it seemed like there might have been some tampering.
But supposedly his initial contact was on the road. He stops,
there's this craft, he's there. They give him this drink.
You know, there's a lot of uh uh, of these
incidents where people are given some kind of drink like
the ambrosia, like the food from fairyland or whatever. But
one interesting thing about him, he went into a long
trance for about a week and they were thought he
was going to die. He comes out of it and
she talks about all these wonderful experiences with the space people,
which is reminiscent of Anne Jeffreys from the sixteen hundreds.
She claimed all kinds of contact with the little people,
the fairies, but she never left her bed. She was bedridden,
and she would go into these trances and have these
very detailed experiences with the little people. And then we have,
I mentioned briefly, we have the Ashtar command. I think
George van Tassel might have been the first guy to
talk to Ashtar, but just about everybody except me has
talked to Ashtar. I think then there was a woman
named Doris Levesque that was channeling Ashtar.
Speaker 3: And talk about who is Ashtar?
Speaker 6: Ashtar is just some galactic big cheese in the cosmos
that is guiding mankind and so forth, and shows up
all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, well, great big cheese. Larry should still
be here big cheese.
Speaker 6: Well maybe Larry can channel Ashtar then that would be
pretty cool. Un Ashtar might have a routine too, who knows.
But uh but Doris lavask talk you know, is a
lot of new age mumbo jumbo earth and transition. Uh
you uh, you know, must have tuned into the light
and all that. And then a woman named Thelma Terrell
known as Tula uh project World Evacuation and uh remember
mister UFO Timothy Green Beckley, he he bought out all
her books and he republished a whole bunch of Yeah. Yeah,
so anyway, it's it's fascinating stuff, uh you know, but
it's all uh pretty pretty tenuous. We have I'm gonna
mention briefly Albert Bender. He's the one that uh had
the uh Flying Saucer Bureau, yeah, every and he's the
one that was going to reveal the secret of the UFOs.
And then supposedly three men in black, which were more
like apparitions, they would manifest. He'd have a headache. I
supposedly they would manifest and scared the crap out of him,
so he just shut up. And then the Great Barker
reported it, and they knew too much about flying Saucers.
But then later on he wrote a spender unfortunately wrote
his own book called Flying Saucers and the Three Men.
And you read this stuff and it's like really bad.
You know, amazing stories had a long run. There were
some great stories in there, some good authors, and a
lot of garbage. This is the worst of the worst.
And you read this and you think, oh, you know
it just some of it sounds very killian. And you
know they said, well, you know, we're here because we
need a certain element from your seawater and you know
it's top secret and then we'll leave. And it's you know,
it's it just sounded like another one of these crazy
uh red herrings that people wild goose chases, that people
would be sent on.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know you mentioned the CIA earlier, and this
we know they did do. Okay, they would go into
these bars and San Diego of all places, and have
these undercover women who posed as escorts, let's say, right,
and they would entice someone who was you looked at
like they were of good income or whatever. Right, they
dosed them with LSD and their drink, bring them back
to their apartment and the and the CIA has hidden
cameras and they would they would document how the person
would react to LSD. Okay, they did that for They
did that to about one hundred different people. Now think
about that for a second, you know, put the pool
on a side there one one. Okay, Well, I'm thinking
about you've been picked up by an escort, you go
to her apartment and you start tripping. Okay, you lose
your control and then watching you. I mean, of all
the you know one, why don't you.
Speaker 4: Is this mk ultra we're talking about?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, one of the conspiracies is actually true? Right, yeah,
why don't they do it to someone the coastal baseball
mark chap or football game? Who who pays for the escort? Seah,
they're not really an escort? Sorry? Well what fun is
that answer? That? I mean?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 3: Anyway, so thank you, Switchy. You're at the end.
Speaker 6: Well we're not done yet, Okay. I was gonna mention briefly,
uh Truman, but Thoram who meant oral rains and the
more you're a Mormon messa in the desert and even
his wife to because of this imaginary space woman. There
was Cecil Michael who wrote a book called Round Trip
to Hell and the Flying Saucers. He claimed that these
two two guys showed up where he worked at an
auto place and took him on a round trip to
Hell and a flying saucer night. But here's the big finish,
Lee Childers nineteen fifty five. He called himself Commander Markosen.
He was uh and he was from a space ship
one hundred miles up. Now he's just some dude. He
was a baker from Detroit and in nineteen fifty eight
he came on the scene as this Prince Knewsom and
at a press conference that's why they find out he's
also a I mean a man of many talents. Yes,
a space guy and a baker in Michigan. He was
two hundred and fifty years old and he had he
dumped his wife. They had a couple of ladies to
to follow him around. He come here and there he was.
It's interesting because you know, long John Nebll was a big,
big feature, kind of the predecessor to Ark Bell. He
would have all these these loons on and he was,
you know, he was very tolerant and let them talk.
But when he came on Long John's nevill show, Longngong
Temples show. He said that he had been killed murdered
five times by the men in black. He had a
rejuvenation machine which brought him back to life. I'd love
to have that, Long John Nebbll threw him off his show.
It's probably the first and only time to anybody lost.
So very fitting that I actually know the very spot
on a street called Livernoi that goes down into Detroit
where he's supposed to have had his first contact with
the aliens. So it must be true you would say
you met aliens in Detroit.
Speaker 3: Why was he called on Long John al Onanson.
Speaker 6: Long John Neville, Yeah, you have no idea.
Speaker 3: I get that cat out of there. You lose all
credibility if you have a cat on your lap?
Speaker 6: Do you who me?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh it's your foot, Okay, I hang out.
Speaker 6: Wow, it was a possum here earlier.
Speaker 3: But that's a catastrophe. That's a code word. So should
we clap for you now? Can we clap for you? Now?
All right? Switch?
Speaker 6: Very good, And we just scratched the surface. You know
how much fun it is to delve into the.
Speaker 4: I love scratching my surface.
Speaker 7: So I have a quick question for Switch.
Speaker 3: Please.
Speaker 7: Two parts are actually a Number one, how come so
much of this stuff happened in the desert somewhere? And
number two, what do you think of the l Ron
Hubbard portal opening deal? Do you think that something happened?
Speaker 6: I don't think so. I think I think that, uh,
we've always you know, we we were focusing on this
during the the Kenneth Arnold sighting. I mean, that's what
it all kind of brought it to the forefront. But heck,
we've had you know, we had the uh the like
in in Max book. What what's it? What's the title
of Max book? Again? The universe, the one that's the
one that's being reprinted righthere. You had the ghost Flyers,
you have the ghost rockets, you had the mysterious airships.
All this came well before the the alleged portal opening.
So I suspect that now, now, I don't know what
I mean. Crawley was he was a loon? I mean,
did he really have uh you know according to Alan
Greenfield that I think he claims he has opened some
of these portals, and uh, I don't know if he's
met or seeing some of the uh these entities or whatever.
So there may be something to this something totally bizarre,
but you know, we can't can't forget and here's the
here's the final conclusion. But uh, John Keel's Silent Contact,
these people that really believe they were in contact with
some other entities, Joe Fisher's Hungry Ghosts, mediums that were
contacting supposedly the dead, and that people would get all
this information and some of it was legit and some
of the predictions work came true, and some of it
was total bs and deceptive.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you about I don't want to, you know,
ash anyone's buzz, but I'll tell you a little bit
about l Ron Hubbard. Okay. He was a failed science
fiction writer. I mean he was someone who you know,
put out a lot of maybe backbooks whatever. He did
it on the different names. And then at some point
he wrote this thing kind of on his own, and
he brought it to his editor and the editor said, well, listen, yeah,
this is this is different, but let's go with this.
And that's what started the whole scientology thing. Okay, that
he claimed that he was in contact with these people
who are you know, fifty six thousand light years away,
and and it started this thing, you know, started this thing.
But that's what he was. That was that was you know,
that was like almost like an editor is his book
editor's choice, go this way and we'll sell millions of copies.
And he was right.
Speaker 4: This is the organization. Tom Cruise is Memberes.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay that he uh Tom Cruise.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: Every year they have a meeting and he uh renews
his allegiance to some you know Stabeast that is fifty
six thousand light years away. That's Tom Cruise for you.
There is a lot of them are used to be right.
And then when they did the they did a movie
science the scientologists actually did a movie that Toto was in.
I forget the name of it. Wasn't the one with
the spaceship one something? Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I guess
it didn't do as well as you know, you know
he put a bunch of money into it, right, yeah, yeah,
And it's you know, it's a it's a really I mean,
dude like ours on scientology. But you know it was
just created by which a lot of things are, by
anantada who was looking for another kind of you know,
place to go, you know with a repoint. The same
is with that guy who is the complete fraud. Who's
the guy that did Wolfing? What's his name? He's very big?
What's his name? There?
Speaker 6: A complete fraud. But also what's his name?
Speaker 3: What's his name? He's he's a complete fraud. That guy,
he's a complete fraud because he wrote, you know, for
I think it was like Banham books or something. He
was doing. Okay, he would make he would write science
fiction and kind of wear wolf stuff wolf and was big. Okay,
he had a name. And the editor said, well, listen,
you gotta go. You know, he can't be writing about
were wolf's, you know, for the next thirty years. Come
for something else. And he came up with this idea
that he went to this cabin up in the woods
in New York and you know people, you know, the
aliens young met him and so on and so forth,
blah blah blah. But he also said that he was
present and I think nineteen sixty six when the guy
was shooting people from the Texas Tower. Okay, you know,
we're fifty six. I think fifty six people were shot
dead by this nut on a tower till they finally
shot him. He claimed he was there. He claimed he
saved women. He claimed that he saw people shot in
front of him, and they went to his mother and
says he was home. He was was home. Really, so
why do you have to do that?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: And so if you but he did that, it's very
well documented. And if he did that, why would you
believe anything else you did or he wrote or anything.
Speaker 4: That kind of destroys his credibility.
Speaker 5: Just yeah, I'd tell you a little bit, okay, And
they can they argue like he wanted to keep himself relevant,
you know. And so you know at that point when
you when your star is fading and if you have
to invent something to get your name back in there, yeah,
you need you get high on the thirty seconds of
fame and you got to try to find something else.
Speaker 3: But see the weird thing about that, You're exactly right,
But he was doing okay. You know, Wolfin was a
kind of a big book. Okay, I mean that was
pretty big and back then when the Exorcist is baying
and that kind of stuff. Okay, But literally some editor,
you know, and I've had it suggested to me. You know, hey, listen,
this is the time for you to you know, start
writing about submarines and not jet fighters. I mean it's
like that. It really is right, and he did it
and it worked for him. Okay, but he's a complete
freaking fraud. We've tried to get him on the show
years ago. He did no ways coming on here. Okay.
He's a multi millionaire. I mean he has a huge enterprise.
You know, he sells, uh, you know, everything you know, sells.
Everything's big or used to anyway, and it's just built
on a lie. I'm sorry, you know, it's just like
one one's friend who wrote the Da Vinci Code, the Buddy, Yeah,
that big huge I'm sorry. What he and his wife did.
They live right up in Rye Beach. Yeah, they they
took six or seven books that had to do with
the Knight's templar and all that stuff. They literally threw
pages up in the air and put it on their
floor and they pasted it together. And that's the da
Vinci Code. Okay. And he got sued. Huge book, I mean, people,
I mean it unbelievable. In the New York Times best
sellerphone like a year is insane. He made billions of dollars. Okay.
He was sued by a guy in England who said,
this is like, you know, ninety percent of my book
that they threw up in the year it was on
CNN every day. The guy who made the claim his
booksells went into the stratisfy, and so did the da
Vinci Code. That's how one of the things are right,
you know, And that's what happened.
Speaker 4: You expect people to stay away from them from the
d Vinci Code because of that.
Speaker 3: Then gave it more. Yeah, just gave it more, you know.
Buzz yeah, And then the movie happened. But that ye.
Dopey directs the movie with Tom Hanks and they go
through this whole friggid movie and they wind up at
that chapel there in Scotland and he moves a rug
and there it is. It's an under a rug. Come on,
I mean, this fucking thing. For thousand years it's under
a ruck.
Speaker 4: Nobody ever looked under that, never swept anybody nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6: By the way, Mac. One more thing I should mention
that Jack Parsons and el Ron Hubbard they had a
h uh, some kind of I don't know, agreement or
business or whatever. But supposedly l Ron Hubbard ran off
with Parsons money. In the meantime, Parsons blew himself up.
Speaker 3: Really Okay, it's probably had a happy ending, it did. Okay,
that's the kids say, all right, switchy, let's catch that
you a third time, Alison here, but it's okay.
Speaker 6: He will make him clap when he comes back.
Speaker 4: Now that's a report that you want to fact check
everything he had to.
Speaker 3: Say, every single thing. But okay, very entertaining. That was
all over the place.
Speaker 6: This is a I want to do a little different
this time.
Speaker 3: Anytime. This would now, I mean a wild stuff. What
should I do here?
Speaker 7: One?
Speaker 3: And should I take a break? K?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, all right, let's take a break. So
you're listening to Wow m maloney's Military Saw Show here
in the Distant Thunder Radio Network. Please stay tuned. Wow
what a show. Welcome back to mc maloney's military little
bit on a military Saw show here in the Distant
Thunder Radio Network. This is McCarney. I'm glad we can
all get together. Becauldn't have fun, right, because this is fun.
Speaker 4: All of us are together sharing the same experience. And
Switcher really brought up some interesting contact the information. It's like, yes,
out of this world, we just went up my believing
every story though we just.
Speaker 3: Went out my car. There was a we were contacted,
but we couldn't say. We had to do the rest
of the show anyway. Yeah, yeah, welcome to Maclonew's Milk
tracksw show. Here we are at the Stop a Galley
restaurant broadcasting live fifty five Water Street, and we put
mass it's us. It's great seafood, great hamburgers, baking cheese,
Sammy onion rings. And add to the list onion soup
because I watched the last segment.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's pretty good.
Speaker 3: One one inhal a bowl of French onion soup. Okay,
right in front of me. Thank you dude.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of cheese on it too. You
got to really watch out.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's healthy. That's good for you.
Speaker 4: It is healthy.
Speaker 3: One one, thanks for being here. You're welcome, glad to
be here. Also with us at the studio, here is
uncle Al very busy with the porn on his iPhone.
Oh don't don't show it to me. Wow, what is
he looking at? I told you I don't. I don't
do anything on this phone be porn. I don't do
anything on this phone except text people occasionally. Okay, that's
in a mession. So anyway, what's happening to gents? You
know you should know.
Speaker 4: Hey, we having fun doing the show. I love this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's off, you know it's off for quiet next door. Well,
it's really weird. It was.
Speaker 4: It was noisy earlier, but it was really loud.
Speaker 3: Because they were they ran out of the lobsters. They
were cooking so many lobsters. The place was crazy. It
was nuts really. Uh So, anyway, Alice here and also
want to Switchblade. Switchy is here? Switchy?
Speaker 6: Great to be here tonight.
Speaker 3: You sent me earlier a lot of photos. One switch
was in the navy. He wants us to believe that
he was in a nuclears, which is true, serving our country.
But he was also a post boy for the navy,
and he sent me all of the uh pictures that
he was. He was in a pamphlet, a recruiting pamphlet.
He was switch Really Yeah.
Speaker 6: I have to explain that when I uh heard me
when I finally reported a board to the sub I
came to the sub tender in New London, Connecticut. Well,
they were on their way back from the Mediterranean. Yes,
so I took them two weeks, so I had a
desk job for a while. So they pulled in. The
very day they pulled in, they sent a camera crew
down to take a bunch of pictures of us for
recruiting UH posters and whatever stuff and so and so,
me and several of my cohorts, actually several guys in
my division and on the sub ended up in a
couple different pamphlets. And what I did was, see, now,
set now, hold that picture up there. That's that's what
was was that that's Ericson. He was in my division.
Continue to work on dear, but hold it up again real.
Speaker 3: Quick here, Yes, but we need to switch.
Speaker 6: See the head, See the hair in the back. I
see that's me. That's the back of my head. They
wanted somebody that's like the helmets and the plainsment. They
wanted to pretend to like somebody was driving the submarine.
And one more thing, one more thing. When when my
my then wife and I went to UH the sub
base and back in the early nineties, right and we
went into the museum, the sub museum, they had a
whole bunch of slides, like giant slides up there on
the wall. That was one of them. With you and
I could proudly. I could proudly hold my hand to
my heart and say, dear, that's the back of my.
Speaker 3: There's so many jokes in there. I'm not stop.
Speaker 6: Look at that pretty good picture.
Speaker 3: But but they put that up, Susan put that up again,
the switch picture. Look at this, he's a hunk man.
Speaker 6: And my only regret about that is I had just
that's the day I reported on board, I still had
my boot camp ball cap. The next day they issued
my my cool USS billfish. You know, it was back
then they were kind of individualized. They weren't all uniform
like they are now. But I had the six. It
was blue six seven six and yellow letters, yellow numbers
rather and I wish the hell i'd had that ball cap.
Speaker 3: On that day.
Speaker 6: And the reason I was in that picture was I
had I had a decent haircut. The guy's coming back
from the mandit. They're there, they're getting kind of shaggy
after a couple of weeks, so the EXO said, hey,
get the new kid with a nice haircut. So that's
why I ended up in that picture. And then one
more thing, this is fastening, I'm sure. So the first
time I got home on leave, I went right to
a recruiter's office looking for it to see if I
ended up in it, you know, And I found two
of these booklets. I think my sister has one. But
so it was kind of cool that a whole bunch
of my uh uh crew members were in these pamphlets.
And somebody told me that they saw commercial once you know,
where they're flipping pictures like one after another. You claimed
that they saw me that picture of me standing in
front of the sub up there. So I don't know
if that's true or not.
Speaker 3: Tay a switch, you dreamy man. You look dreaming in
those picturesings.
Speaker 6: Yes, talk about smoldering.
Speaker 4: Yes, seriously, baby, I thought that was a shot of
a still of Hawaii five. Oh I didn't have my
glasses on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked so much like it.
Speaker 6: Well, I said, the backdrop is just a two dimensional board.
You know, it's not.
Speaker 3: Real, isnt. It was cool? Uh So listen, we're gonna
pivot as the kids say too. Listen also with us
as Brandy X, let's clap, I'm sorry I went out
of order. And also Susan Kay, let's do this sustain
the applause.
Speaker 4: Susan Kay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there she is okay, so we're all here, and Susan,
K if I can use some code, could you pull
the trigger one more time for us? You know what
I mean with Dave got Okay, that's a time. I'm good, Susan,
that's a one in a in a one Okay, that's
a jack and a buddle like uh yes please you
sure they want to ye? Okay? Uh So anyway we're
gonna throw it and also with us is what we said,
Brandy X. And we're gonna throw it at you, Brandy.
Someday we're gonna get a bumper for you. I mean
that sounds filthy, but a bumper is the thing that
you know introduces your segment, okay, and it'll have all
religious choruses and stuff like that. You know that's the
way it's Gregorian.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's called is called the music bed. Not
when you could sleep in or have sex with.
Speaker 3: But the bed. Would you'd run it the whole thing, right.
Speaker 4: They called the bed? Okay, all right, they're laying in
it as you listened to it for a while and
a bed bump up, you know, same thing in a
way show.
Speaker 3: Very cool radio, This is very whole. I wish we
bring it down on that. This is very holy because yeah,
am is right, Brandon, you went the Holy Hill? Is
that the name of the place I did?
Speaker 7: Yes, and I have a picture.
Speaker 3: Let's see. Oh wow, that's very impressive. Nice, nice foliage
and stuff. Wow, that's a that's a substantial Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: It is at the highest point in southeast Wisconsin.
Speaker 4: Really how old is that? I mean, it can't be
that old.
Speaker 7: Well I'm going to get into that. So yeah.
Speaker 3: So let.
Speaker 7: Holy Hill is outside of Hubertus, which is outside of Milwaukee,
and it's kind of to the northwest of Milwaukee. And
once a month, well I guess at all times, people
go there on pilgrimages because because it is renowned for
its healing and once a month they actually have healing
masses there and so folks can go and receive healing blessings.
And there is a pile of crutches that is on
display there that people have left there after they were
cured of their ailments. It's also beautiful there. The it's
on the highest point and so all of the trees
and all the landscape looks absolutely beautiful, especially during the
season when the colors are changing, which is when I
was there. I had been there before. I went to
a healing mass that time, and the whole vibe at
that time the first time I was there was very transformative.
It was like you just felt like the vibe was
on another level. And I just felt at that time
that the healing that I was asking for for other
people was actually happening, and so that's why I went back. However,
this time, I when I got there, I ran into
kind of a traffic jam. There were attendants in the
parking lots, and I thought, what in the world is
going on, and they said, it's the colors. People are
here to see the colors. There is the giant bell
tower in one of the steeples of the Basilica, and
there are seven hundred and forty one steps to get
to the top. But from there you can see just
about everywhere, and you can actually see the Milwaukee skyline
from there. It's such a great view. So all of
these people had come, not necessarily for the mass, but
for the view.
Speaker 3: They call them leaf peoples up here. Okay, they're so
bad in New Hampshire that they've closed up entire highways
there for people. They're so sick of them up there. Yeah,
the locals go crazy. We can't get home, right. Yeah,
it's an incredible traffic jams. It's beautiful, but it's kind
of narrow winding roads up and right same up there.
But yeah, yeah, looking the picture looked great. But go ahead,
please bernnye.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, just a little bit about the history of
Holy Hill and why it has this healing or how
it came to have or how we know that it
has this healing ability. The legend is that Jacques Marquette,
who was a French Canadian priest, and Louis Jolliette, who
was a fur trader, discovered the location in sixteen seventy three,
and supposedly both the Pottauatomy and the Menominee folklore mention
a black robed chief who wore a cross on his
belt and preyed on the hill, referring to Father Marquette.
The Native Americans in the area also had even before
Father Marquette arrived, also had a legend that this area
was very sacred, so they may have had have felt
the healing benefits of it as well. Later in the
eighteen hundreds, there was a man named Francois Subriot who
was studying to become a priest, but he fell in
love with a woman, and so he was excommunicated or
expelled from the church. Yes, and he was no longer
allowed to become a priest. Yeah, it was a scandal,
and so he left. He left home for a year
just to let things calm down. But he said he
was going to return in a year and marry this woman. Well,
the story goes that when he returned in a year,
he discovered that she had been unfaithful to him, and
so he became enraged and ended up killing her.
Speaker 3: No, No, that's wrong, that's wrong. Go ahead, please, okay.
Speaker 7: So after that he fled to a monastery in Quebec,
and supposedly it was at this monastery that he discovered
a diary that was written by Father Marquette, along with
a map from Father Marquette indicating where Holy Hill was
and where this cross was that Father Marquette had put
up in dedication to the Blessed Virgin at Holy Hill.
So Subaru felt that he had to atone for the
sins that he had committed a falling in love with
somebody and leaving the priesthood and be killing somebody, and
so he thought he needed to visit this holy site
and pray for forgiveness during so he set off on
foot to go to Holy Hill from Quebec. And during
this pilgrimage he became afflicted with some kind of ailments
that left him almost paralyzed by the time he got
to Holy Hill, and it was a struggle for him
to reach the peak of the hill, but he did
and he found the cross that Father Marquette had placed,
and he offered his prayers and asked for forgiveness and
asked for healing, and the next day he was completely
healed of whatever ailment he had. It was almost he
was almost paralyzed, but by the next day he was
completely healed. So he decided to build a chapel at
the top of the hill, and he decided that it
was going to be, you know, his penance if you
will to stay there and you know, say prayers for
healing for others. So he remained there as a recluse
for seven years, and he was occasionally visited by the
farmers that were in the area. They knew of him,
and then all of a sudden, after seven years, nobody
saw him anymore. He mysteriously disappeared, and it's said that
his ghost can be seen walking the paths at Holy
Hill and kneeling near the stations of the Cross, and
walking through the Carmelite cemetery that's at the foot of
the current basilica. So the whole place has had a
rep putation of healing and like I said, even had
a supernatural quality known by the Native Americans before that.
And so I might have mentioned before that there was
a Lord's Grotto replica erected at the foot of the
basilica also, and because Lords is famous for its healing
as well, this grotto has a holy water spring that
visitors can collect holy water from and you know, use
for healing. So the whole place has like a sense
of supernatural quality, and so it's not surprising that other
supernatural things would be reported around the area, kind of
like the spirit of this this francois roaming around. There
are also both dog Man reports a plenty and Goatman.
Speaker 3: Dog Man's everywhere dog Man and goat Man. Yes, they
leave people alone once in a while.
Speaker 7: Maybe they don't think so, I don't think so. I
specifically arranged to stay extra long after the mass for
a few extra days just so I could investigate these
dog man and goat man report. Yes, so there are
reports of dog man being seen in that same cemetery
where all the former friars are buried in priests as
well as one of the most famous dog man reports
that Linda Godfrey talked about, and it was the one
where the d n R worker reported what he described
as a bear wolf. And what happened was he had
pulled over on the side of the road to remove
a roadkill, and this was in two thousand and six,
and he loaded the deer carcass into the bed of
his truck and then he got into the cab to
write up the report. And while he was writing up
the report, he felt his truck shaking and he turned
around to see this creature standing on its hind legs
and reaching into the bed of the truck. He described
it as a bear wolf, like a looking like a
cross between a wolf and a bear, with a long muzzle,
pointy ears. But it was reaching in with its forearms,
I guess to pull this carcass out. It was using
such force that it also took away. While it was
dragging the carcass away, it took away the ramp that
a DNR worker had used to.
Speaker 3: Load strong Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was so scared. This was at one in
the morning. Yes, and this I'm telling you what. This
is right outside the entrance to Holy Hill. It is
on a crossroad that is this highway, which is a
two lane, windy highway with completely unlit and a residential
road that goes up into the woods. Basically, you can't
see anyone's homes from this crossroad right and it's it's dark,
there's no shoulder, it's creepy, there's woods. There's like Holy
Hill looming on the hill above where above this, And
this DNR worker was completely terrified, and he just took off.
He just peeled out. And then he thought later on,
I gotta go back and get that ramp, because you
know that's expensive. I got to have that ramp. So
he got up the guts back, he went back in.
The ramp was nowhere. He never did find the ramp,
and the carcass was gone.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 7: He reported his sighting to local authorities, who took him
somewhat seriously, but they called it a big foot siding,
and they somehow got the word of the big foot
sighting to the media, and so the media reported a
big foot sighting at that location. So I want to
visit that location to see, you know, if there was
a weird vibe there, what you know exactly the you know,
terrain was like and things. And it's at the northern
edge of Holy Hill. And like I said, it was
on that windy highway intersecting with that residential road. And
to the west of that residential road there's an abrupt
like wooded incline. It's probably like seventy five degree incline,
just a hill. A lot of this area is just
real steep hills and you know, real deep valleys. The
hill is so steep that there's a retaining wall holding
it back from this highway. The entire area up there
in the woods was covered with all of these boulders,
giant boulders, to the extent that I thought maybe there
had been a building there that was made of stone
that had crumbled or something. There were so many of them,
but when I investigated it, they they weren't you know,
cut rock. They were actually just boulders. There were that
just that many of them left there. There was to
the east of that residential road there was an equally
heavily wooded area, but it was low and swampy and
it was marked private property. So I didn't go onto
that land, and I probably wouldn't have even if it
wasn't marked private property, just because it was really brambly
and I would not want to get stuck in there
or have something happened in there and not be able.
Speaker 3: To give back out.
Speaker 7: And directly across the highway then was the Holy Hill property,
which at that point was an open grass field at
the foot of the hill that the basilica sits on,
and the field seemed to have been mowed, maybe like
somebody harvested hay or something there. And one crazy thing
about this whole area that Switchy will maybe understand is
that this whole area looked like a replica of the
Bray Road farm of Lee Hample because there was this
open field, and then at the back of the field
there was like this round cluster of trees that had
lost all of their leaves that was kind of in
a low lying area. And then around this whole field
was like woods, and there was a highway, you know,
right on the north side of this field, just like
at Bray Road, and there was a residential road crossing
this highway, just like at Bray Road, and so I
just had like a flash of like, this setting seems
to be almost the same kind of setting, and Bray Road.
Speaker 3: Is where dog Man is seeing a goat man, which
one of the dog.
Speaker 7: Man Bray Road.
Speaker 3: The weirdest thing about this story, and I'm just into
Drake real quick, is that this is primarily a religious site, right, yes, okay, yes,
and then it attracts religious pilgrims and so on and yes,
and leaf peepers. But it's so strange but this kind
of activity is around, you know what I mean. So
once again, take the religious stuff out of it. Just
what does that switch?
Speaker 6: That's a picture you sent me? Oh yeah, yeah, get
it focused in better?
Speaker 3: But yeah, well well pretend we focus, yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah.
So it's up on a hill and literally up in
a pretty tall hill, right, it is.
Speaker 7: On the highest point in Southeastern But.
Speaker 3: It's so strange that this place is, you know, as
the kids say, a hunt point, you know, because obviously
they're seeing stuff there that isn't completely religious or whatever, right, right, But.
Speaker 5: The amount of money that must have taken to build
that Basilica up there. Somebody, somebody put up a lot
of cash that they building didn't come cheap.
Speaker 7: They estimate that it costs nine thousand dollars a day
just to maintain the grounds of the basilica.
Speaker 3: Nine grand a day. Okay, yeah, it sounds like the
Sopranos with the money.
Speaker 5: I mean, you have have to have an awful lot
of the faithful to donate, to donate that kind of
money to build, because that wasn't done back in the
you know, the early days. That was done probably during
the last hundred years, maybe closer. But that's a lot
of money. I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 4: It's kind of a landmark for the Catholic Church. So
there's probably a lot of or some Catholic Church money
going into that.
Speaker 3: Well I don't know which way that money is slowing,
but nine mins a day, yeah, it's a lot of money.
Well go ahead, please, Brandy.
Speaker 7: Okay. So I have these dowsing rods that I take
with me if I'm going to like investigate a spot
just to see what electromagnetic activity is in the spot.
And I've taken them before when Switch and I have
investigated places and unfortunately in the in this location where
this incident occurred with the bear wolf. There are a
bunch of well, I won't say a bunch, but a
couple of electric boxes. There are a bunch of electric
poles right on the road, and there is buried cable.
So I can't say that any indication that I was
getting from the dowsing rods of electromagnetic anomalies had anything
to do with anything paranormal. I would say it's going
to happen anyway because of all this electrical stuff that
was Yeah, the location where this happened is just adjacent
to the Ice Age Trail, which is one of eleven
National Scenic trails, and this one is a thousand mile
footpath entirely within Wisconsin, which follows the retreat of the
glaciers and highlights different topography in Wisconsin. And a segment
of this trail goes through the Holy Hill property. And
you know, right next to this trail, so here's a trail,
there's a creek, and you know, just the usual I
guess terrain that would be near some kind of sighting
of some kind of cryptid. So that's as much as
I could get at that location. So after I investigated
that spot, I was walking the back road that leads
to the Basilica, and there was a home owner that
was outside mowing his lawn and he had seen me
with my camera taking pictures and things, and so he
came out and started talking to me, and he was
telling me about how beautiful the Basilica and the grounds
and the colors and everything are and that he just
loves living there so much because it's so serene and everything.
We did not talk about anything paranormal, but he had
this giant rock in his front yard and I said,
what's with that rock. Wow, that's a big rock in
your front yard. And he said, oh, you like rocks,
then you have to definitely check out this granite boulder
on the ice Age trail. And he told me that
it was at the second highest point in the area.
The first one is where the the look it is,
but he told me this boulders on the second highest point,
and then he told me where the trail was within
the Holy Hill grounds, so that I could climb up
the trail and find this giant boulder. Yes, because of
the proximity of granite to paranormal hotspots, I was totally
all over this. A lot of paranormal things happen in
proximity to granite, and so I took my dowsing rods
and I went on this trail that he told me
to go on, which I never would have found if
he hadn't mentioned it to me.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question, Yes, are you alone
or do you have an entourage with you?
Speaker 7: No, I'm not trash. I was by myself, really, ok Yeah,
I was all by myself, Okay. So I was climbing
up this trail and I came to like this kind
of not a wall of shrubbery, but just like a
cluster I guess of shrubbery. And behind it was this
gigantic what he said, a gigantic granite boulder. And it
was I want to say it was almost five feet
high because if I stood like on my toes and
put my arm up, I could just put like my
armpit on top of it, like I could just rest
my arm on top of it. And I am just
over five feet tall. So it was a really giant boulder.
I sent swhich picture of it. And next to this
boulder there was a marker indicating that it was a
glacial erratic granite boulder brought to the spot from somewhere
in the northeast by the Wisconsin Glacier and it weighed
twenty four tons. Okay, I don't know how they know that.
But there was also a brass marker on the ground
next to this that was stamped as a reference marker
by the US Coastal and Geodetic Survey, and it said
that if you take umpered with it in any way,
you could be fined or imprisoned. Really, so, the homeowner
that told me where this boulder was told me that
it had been used for serving the area way.
Speaker 3: Back in the day benchmin.
Speaker 7: So the whole time going, you know, on the trail
to this boulder, my dowsing ruds every so often would
cross or you know, make motion. But when I got
to the top and I was walking around it, they
went nuts. And I've never had them spin completely in
circles before, and that's what they were doing up next
to this boulder. They were just spinning in circles.
Speaker 3: These are rods. These are two What are they made of?
Speaker 7: They were they're made of I want to say, they're
made of.
Speaker 3: Copper, yes, okay, And you can walk along with them.
And if there's some anomaly under the ground they react.
Speaker 7: Right, because the electromagnetic frequency changes if there's an anomaly
like a creek or a spring underneath or empty like
if there's a a burial chamber, let's say, or an
empty spot under the ground.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, people used to I mean they look the
water for them, right, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So, but I've never had them spin in circles before,
so that I was really getting excited about that because
I knew that was a big deal. And from where
this boulder was you could I could look I mean,
the trees were the foliage was covering. But if it
hadn't been there, I could have seen the spot on
the road where that dog bear dog bere wolf thing happened.
And I could also have seen the cemetery where the
dog man had been reported also, So I I mean,
because it's the second highest point, you could have pretty
much seen any point, but those two points in particular,
I thought was really interesting that you could see them
from this spot that was putting off this electromagnetic anomaly.
So that was that was all I gathered from that encounter. However,
on the way back down the trail, I took my
coat off and put it on backwards because I was
worried that I was around.
Speaker 3: Hang On, hang on, what does that do? Hang on?
You took off your coat and put it on backwards?
Speaker 4: Yes, not especially backwards.
Speaker 3: Why why do you want to tell why I switch?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: No, I want you to I would switch.
Speaker 4: I did not?
Speaker 3: Please tell us? Why? Why?
Speaker 7: Why?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 7: Because if you like somehow cross into the land of
the elementals, Yes, you can confuse them from capturing you
by putting your clothing on backwards and walking backwards.
Speaker 3: That's why one on.
Speaker 6: I reported on once where a woman got It was
one of those areas where the elementals were supposed to roam,
and she got confused. She was trying to find a
path to get back to where she was and she
couldn't find it, and so she put on her some
of her clothes on backwards, or her shirt or whatever,
and she was able to find her way back. According
to the store, we.
Speaker 3: Can do it right now. That's something that Wow, that's so.
Speaker 7: And it's common in those stories. And because they're the
elementals are going to put a trance on you, and
so it keeps them from I don't know if it
confuses them or what, but it keeps them from doing that,
and because a lot of these elementals are found around granite,
I thought, okay, that's you know, these my dowsing rods
are spinning in circles. I'm putting my clothes on backward.
So anyway I made it.
Speaker 6: Well, okay, did you ever put your coat back on correctly?
Speaker 3: I did? On rods is spinning, yes, okay.
Speaker 7: So the next day then I went to Hogsback Road
to try to see what I could find out about
the goat Man. And according to I'm just going to
tell you a little bit about goat Man for people
that don't know. According to the Richfield Historical Society, which
is in Wisconsin and author J. Nathan Couch, who lives
in that area and wrote a book on the goat Man,
there are different legends attributed to the Hogsback Road goat Man,
and Hogsback Road is probably, you know, just a couple
of miles from Holy Hill if that, it's just down
the road, so another weird spot in that vicinity. One
of the legends of that goat man is that he
is the spirit of a man who was killed in
a vehicular crash on Hogsback Road, which is a really
treacherous road. And his spirit has been trapped in the
location by a cult and they are using his spirit
to cause other people to crash, and supposedly he'll walk
across the road like holding the head of a goat.
Oh yeah, and cause people to crash, and then the
cult will use their energies the crash victims energies kind
of like energy vampires. Another legend is that the cult for.
Speaker 4: This culture talking about I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think the cult is like state fomb and some something.
Speaker 4: This is scary stuff. I mean, a police calling the police.
Speaker 7: Another legend of that road and goat man is that
in the late eighteen hundreds, a newlywed couple was traveling
that road in their carriage and crashed their carriage and
the husband left the wife at the site while he
went to walk to get help, and he did not
come back all night. And during the night, the wife
saw a half man, half goat being basically a goat
like a pan, like you know what pan is. That's
what was described. Yeah, so a goat lower half and
a man upper half with a goat horns on his head.
Speaker 3: It sounds like one's honeymoon.
Speaker 4: That's how I went out for Halloween.
Speaker 6: Not bad.
Speaker 7: Anyway. The husband never returned, so at daylight, the woman
saw the tracks of this creature that she had seen
in the night, and she followed the tracks only to
find the body of her husband killed by this creature.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 7: Okay. And the recent reports of goat man supposedly come
from lover's lane situations where people are parked and see
this creature and it makes them scared and.
Speaker 3: They leave the area.
Speaker 7: Well, well, the problem with those till the end of
the show.
Speaker 3: Please, The problem is.
Speaker 7: The I don't see how this road could ever be
used as a lover's lane because it is so treacherous
and scary. It is a two lane road. It is
up and down hills around curves. If you've ever been
in the Ozarks, I mean it's up one hill, down,
up and down. But you're going around these blind curves.
And this road might be a mile long. But there's
nowhere to pull over on the road, and there are
steep drop offs on both sides, or there's a drop
off on one side and a real steep incline on
the other side. There is absolutely nowhere to pull over.
And if you want to turn around on the road,
it's too dangerous to turn around in the middle of
the road, you basically have to drive the whole road
and then turn around and come.
Speaker 6: Back on the road, so.
Speaker 7: As a lover's lane is the point. So I don't
know where that legend came from, but it is scary.
And so then I went back there at night, and
I'm glad I had gone during the day so that
I didn't super freak myself out at night. But I
went back there at night to drive it to see
if I was gonna get goat man, did.
Speaker 3: You go back alone?
Speaker 4: Did you to get worried about this girl being out
alone all the time too?
Speaker 7: I did go back alone, but I was like, I said,
you can't get out and walk it. So I was
just driving it. I mean, I was jeary. I was
going really slow because I was worried that like a
skunk or you know, a raccoon was going to run in.
Speaker 1: Front of me.
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe an Osak mountain daredevil, but.
Speaker 7: You know, I wanted to get out and walk, you know,
and like check out the electromagnetic frequencies and things. But
it was just too It was just too scary because
you couldn't see a car coming until it was. It
was running you over, so I wasn't able to walk
along it. But one thing I did notice about this
road that I thought was similar to where the I
don't know if you've heard of the Pope lick Monster.
Speaker 3: No, no, okay, the Pope lick the Pope lick Monster.
Speaker 7: Pope lick Monster. It's in Kentucky. Pope in Kentucky and.
Speaker 3: Not the Vatican.
Speaker 7: But you got the word pope right, And now I'm
out of Basilica, and it reminds me of the Pope
lick Monster. But the public monster is a goat man
in Kentucky that lives under a train trestle. And if
you ever have seen stand by me. Yeah, when they're
crossing the train trestle and if the train comes, there's
nowhere for them to go. They have to jump off
if they can't outrun it. That's what this trestle is
in Kentucky. And supposedly a goat man lives under the trestle,
and anyone who's stupid enough to go up and try
to beat the trains, the goat man will come up
and basically scare them off. There have been people that
have fallen and witnesses say that it's because the goat
man was chasing them off of this train trestle. But
the way this road was in this Hog's back road
in Wisconsin, it was essentially the same kind of thing
because it was steep drop offs on both sides and
nowhere to go. And if there was a goat man you,
I mean, if you tried to get away from it,
you could only crash down the room.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm very concerned with Brandy X being out
there at night and a very narrow thing with the
goat man around wanting right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Plus how bad is goat man anyways? Really? Super
evil person to eat people?
Speaker 3: Does he eat people or anything?
Speaker 7: He killed that husband, but I think he I think
he causes people to crash or causes people to have accidents,
And potentially, if you believe that cult story, supposedly there
could be attachments that people get when they're driving that
road that they bring home with them, like his little
entity attachments. So I think, you know, I guess it
depends on what you believe.
Speaker 3: Honey, you brought the goat man home and what reason
you're going to sleep?
Speaker 4: No? I just bought this record called Goat's Head Soup
I was wondering.
Speaker 7: You know, you're in the soup, aren't you good?
Speaker 3: But I'm what I'm fascinating about. I can't get over
it is that this is a place that people think
is religious, yet once again take the religious side of it,
and all this crazy stuff is happening there. Right.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's maybe that stuff happened before the religious maybe
the other stuff was there, right, and then then the
basilicas people said, this is a cool place, something here,
not not realizing what else was there before.
Speaker 7: Them, or maybe they did, and maybe they knew it
was a portal area. And if you're going to get
you know, benign or benevolent entities coming through a portal area,
why couldn't you get the opposite, And especially you're talking
about the goat man, which is similar to a devil.
I mean, if you you know, sometimes the devil's depicted
as a goat, So why couldn't you have both kinds
of entities coming through. It's kind of like when you're
doing a wiki board, you open it, you don't know
what's going to come from, but.
Speaker 3: It's always bad. It seems like it sounds like, you know,
portals is never a good thing, not a good thing.
Yeah yeah, yeah, wow wow, Brandy. Yeah, it's so interesting going.
Speaker 4: Through all these portals unescorted.
Speaker 3: Yes, let's see. Yeah, I don't want to say the
hot things about it, but it's interesting.
Speaker 4: He's got stones, that's for sure. Well that yeah, yeah,
that goes Brandy. Good job.
Speaker 7: It was fun. It was fun. I wish I had
gotten more concrete proof of things, but I'm really happy
with what I did discover while I was there, just
about the terrain in the area and the vibes and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see he's a weird thing. Is it sounds weird?
Is why does spooky things happen in spooky places? You
know what I mean? There's a reason why you've spooked
at shirtain places. You just feel weird at shooting places,
you know, And that's where it seems like all the
stuff happens.
Speaker 4: So the weirdness comes from the energy underneath the ground.
Well that's one source, right, It's got to be.
Speaker 3: Like the vibe or something is happening.
Speaker 4: Especially granted you got all that radon man.
Speaker 5: That Radeon stuff is really especially like New Hampshire is
the Granite state thing.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to put a rad system in my
house I got they make you. I still get email
from the from the place a lot of people do.
At least we don't have to worry about that because
we live on sand's nor under there.
Speaker 7: Well, I want to say that sand and granite are
both made of quarts. Is like they make computer chips
out of quarts and you can, like you can.
Speaker 4: Put silicon valleys.
Speaker 7: Pieces of information on a little tiny computer chip. Think
of all the information that could legitimately be stored inside
of a granite boulder that we don't understand how to
get out. Just your own tape theory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yep, no, I mean when you yeah, granted,
when you think about it, if they everything stores information energy,
you know, anything has energy in it, you have to
just release it.
Speaker 4: You know, that's bombs and that's been stored for a
bazillion years.
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah. Interesting. Wow, can we clap for you now, Brandy?
Speaker 6: Thank you?
Speaker 3: I mean, Sarah.
Speaker 5: Maybe the maybe that way that Prisilica is that the
religious people realized there was something cooking there, so they
threw a prisilica on top of it to make it
a holy.
Speaker 3: Site and to build that baba cover the gate underneath it.
That it might have been. Yeah, all those bricks up there,
you know that put it.
Speaker 5: Make it, make it a religious place, and then good
luck get anything bad through it.
Speaker 7: A couple of weeks ago when we were talking about
lay lines or somebody was talking about laylanes maybe switchy
and talking about all of these like holy sites with
on this grip, you know, and a lot of the
holy sites have been built on former pagan sites. Yeah,
you know, this is kind of the same thing where
this was built on a former Native American supernatural Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, So you know, if.
Speaker 7: You've got successive religious you know, places being built on
top of each other, there has to be something to
that spot.
Speaker 3: I would think the lay lines in England, if you
look at England, there were lines cycle through it, and
that there were very important sites along straight lines, you know,
almost like as planned, you know, like you know Stonehenge
and always like with you know, it's.
Speaker 4: Just sected such key areas.
Speaker 3: That it almost seems planned.
Speaker 4: A team of drafts people couldn't lay it out as
accurately as this thing is.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Funny, yeah, but Alfred Watkins, years ago, it's the first
one to really look at it. He'd be standing up
on a hill and you'd see all these important monuments
and churches and so forth off in the distance along
the same line, straight line right, and others have taken
up the mantle. But yeah, it's pretty fascinating.
Speaker 3: Is you know. At some point, I mean someone said,
you know, at some point, if you look at that,
and it's not just in England, but like in the
Southeast Asia, Yank that place called the Anchor Watt East Island,
you know, stuff like that. You know, they're on the
same meridian or whatever, but it almost looks like it's planned.
And someone said, listen, just you know, kind of like
step back and look, there was some kind of a
civilization here, kind of advanced but not like this, but
had advanced stuff that were here like thirty thousand years ago.
We're just looking at kind of like the we're yeah,
the basics of you know, what they were. How did
they build these places, you know in the in the
mountains in South America where they had like the stones
maybe they granted you know, like four hundred tons you
can move that today. How do they f them together?
So well? Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you can't even put
it like a you know, like a cod between them.
That's how no concrete just fit together? How does that happen?
Does happen something we're not aware of? Yeah, you know
it's it's something we don't know. And and that's you
have going back this whole.
Speaker 4: If we think we don't know it, and we don't
know it, we just say, well, you know, yeah.
Speaker 5: You don't give our civilization in our thousands of years
and decay and what's left. Someone's going to look at
it and go, how did they do that? I know
that because all of the technology is going to be gone. Yeah, yeah,
it's going to be a mess, and they're going to
look at it overgrown, and they're going to look at
it and go, what was here before us?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Really, they're not going to find it.
Speaker 4: I think whoever looks at it, it's going to have
way more technology than we ever had.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just like every every right, exactly every stage forward,
Like we look back and we go how did they
do it?
Speaker 3: But we talked about the Pyramids, you know how they
do it? You know that kind of stuff? Right? Yeah, Well,
but I mean there is there is good evidence and
once again and the andes in Turkey called Tobeccy Kepi
or something. Yeah, I mean that place is like built
twenty thousand years ago and it's so elaborate. You go, Okay,
cavemen did this. No, there's no way they did it.
There's no way they had the the same with the Pyramids,
and the permits are like the Pyramids were built two
thousand years before Christ. Okay, I mean it's ancient history
to Christ, all right, four thousand years how'd they do it?
It'd be so hard to do it today.
Speaker 5: I just saw there's a day a picture that showed
the Sphinx back in the late eighteen hundreds. It was
buried in sand up to its ears. Yeah, yeah, they
the top of the head was sticking out.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 3: He'd just gotten.
Speaker 5: Covered over over the over the millennia, and somebody dug
it out and started going, well.
Speaker 3: They also said that if you look at the base
of the when you look the sphinx, the head is
out of proportion, right, all right. They thought they put
a different head on it. But I taught this guy
who's at the professor u Mass and he proved that
they were water layers at the bottom of the you
know water. And they said the way water was up
here unless it was like twenty thirty years ago.
Speaker 5: This was a wetlands back or an ocean. There was
something came up here.
Speaker 3: And the Egyptians came upon these things, you know, you know,
But yeah, there's I think there's evidence. I think there's
good evidence that something was happening twenty thirty thousand years ago.
We have no idea. We had no idea. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's tell you. If I was searching for
the answer, I'd be hanging out at Egypt. Egypt seems
to be the hotbed. Yeah, the confluence of all these
different strange energy elements, stuff and raw and the whole
gang worship for all kinds of.
Speaker 3: Things four thousand years ago, the bill and pyramids that
are exactly aligned with the you know, I mean, how
do you know the.
Speaker 5: Specs, the specifications. We were doing it, the specs, and
they knew something.
Speaker 3: Let's churn this. Let me ask Susan something though. Susan,
we got a text here. I don't want to say it.
How did you get so pretty?
Speaker 7: The more you drink, the prettier I guess.
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, how's Rudy? How's Rudy Tody?
Speaker 7: I don't know. I missed him I'm in withdrawal right now.
Speaker 3: Oh you said.
Speaker 7: But a cold down here?
Speaker 6: How about up there for you guys in Florida.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cold up here. Yeah, yeah, winters this morning. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I heard some people at the bar here at this
start with Gally talk about is in Florida.
Speaker 3: Ye happened real quick, right now, yeah, very quick, very
It was like sixty five last week and there was
nice and then boom here it is. But it is no.
So well listen now, I don't I'm believing you want
to kind of the end the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we should wrap it.
Speaker 3: Let's clamp for ourselves only because there's nothing else to do. Alice,
ordering on drinks? Where do you go?
Speaker 4: What to take a leak?
Speaker 7: Us?
Speaker 3: Alright? Let me think.
Speaker 4: I just hope he puts it back.
Speaker 3: Brandy, thank you. That was great, man, that was really,
really good. I would not do that. I don't have
the courage to walk up in these woods in the
middle of the night, in a hot spot where the
goat man is, but thank god you do. Thank you, Brandy.
We're going to clamp for you.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 3: All right. I walked into the room not just for
your report, for the Sarah Peil. Look, I really didn't
like her, but she was kind of cute. Thank you,
Thank you, Brandy, Thank you Susan. Thank you Susan for
joining us.
Speaker 5: My pleasure, especially coming up from you know, yeah, not
from home, coming up during your trip.
Speaker 3: You're in Florida now, right, correct, that's.
Speaker 7: Correct, just till Sunday. Hmm tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm going.
Speaker 7: There's a place down here on a beach. I can't
think of it. I want to say, Benita Beach. Yeah,
where you can ride gypsy Vanner horses, which are those
big majestic horses feathers on their feet, and I'm so
excited about that.
Speaker 4: What are they called gypsy vanner Gypsy?
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're gorgeous.
Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, and uh, rudy you send me in a
texta a day. Rudy attitude. Is that what you really
call them? Rudy attitude? Yeah, the aude? Yeah. Okay, Well,
we love him, thank you and we love you. Thank you, Susan,
thank you.
Speaker 7: I love being here.
Speaker 3: Sorry I was late, but no, no, it's okay, Susan
that you put in a lot to be here. Yes, switch,
we love you too. Let's clap the switch because.
Speaker 6: Did you want to know what I had for breakfast.
Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead, I had a.
Speaker 6: Super breakfast at tutors this morning.
Speaker 3: Send me a picture. Had died in the morning, go ahead,
Well me back crackers.
Speaker 6: I left a ten ten. Yeah, you're excited. But I
haven't been there much for a while because I'm actually
cooking at home. So I caught up a little bit.
Speaker 3: Nice. Okay, you can tell.
Speaker 6: Sometimes the ladies that worked there, they have a rough,
rough day. Sometimes they deserve a tip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good for you. So we're recluding this on Veterans Day.
You'll hear it two weeks later. But I want to
really thank you. One one is a veteran and also
switches a veteran. Thank you. Really, you know, the thing
is of a I never went into the service. Okay
at family members who were involved in the service, but
I just I just would never have made it. But
I would really anyone who gave up pot of their lives.
It's like going to high school. But you know, when
you're older, give a party of lives to really, you know,
sure in the military is a big thing, big thing,
no matter what you did.
Speaker 4: Yeah to me, it was two years after I graduated
from high school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So you're young and then you do and
it's an adventure, you see the world, et cetera. But
you're really kind of giving up your lives too. When
they it was on the line, you know you're going
to go to war and hopefully defend us. You know,
so so thank you both of you guys and other
club was in it to clap again, you know.
Speaker 6: I want to say that my dad when he he
went in uh immediately after he hit Hawaii World War two,
and because of him, they knew he was coming. When
I went in a few months later, the Iran hostage
crisis was over switching. We were both badasses and they
knew we were coming.
Speaker 3: And James, yeah, yeah, yeah, Wow, that's cool. My father
was in World War two in the for four years
on a ship, and my brother was in Vietnam. You know,
I've had a lot of relevas while you're in the military,
but it wasn't for me. I don't think I just couldn't.
I just couldn't survive the military. I don't think al
could either. But I think one one.
Speaker 4: If I could survive the Navy, anybody could.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: My dad was one of a group of Italian kids
that enlisted probably the day after Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a lot of people and they all went
and went.
Speaker 5: And what's kind of interesting to me is, you know,
the Italians were part of the axis. They took the
Italian you know kids, and they were in the certain
and then they took the the Japanese Americans and put
them in basically a concentration camp.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, they put together from Japan. Yeah, and
they went to Italy. They wouldn't get confused, and they
were really good. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The family a lot of families in Kem. It's funny.
I was reading a thing the other day, George to
K from Star Trek.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: He wrote a book about his him being a child
and being put into a determined camp with his family. Yes, yes,
like he got sent to Arkansas. Yeah right, you know,
he was an American citizen, but they pulled them into
and so he wrote a book about it, and it
was banned in Tennessee.
Speaker 3: There was in ni Kansas. But here's the weird thing
about this, and that was not a thing to do.
But you know, at the being in World War Two,
they did put a lot of Japanese Americans into you know,
internment camps. There went concentration camps. They were fed well
and but they were kind of put away from the rest.
And the reason they did that is during World War One, okay,
which only happened twenty years before. There's a lot of
German sabotages in the United States, and they up like factories,
and you know, there's a lot of sabotage. It won't
take any chance sched during World War one, so right, exactly,
So the beginning World War two, they said, let's not
take any chances. Round them up, and little Italians go
in and they okay, there's always always a floor of
the plan.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Susan, thanks to you, and Susan, okay, Switchy, you
know what I mean. Switch Thank you Switchy for taking
time to your busy day to all right my pleasure.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's to be busier tomorrow.
Speaker 3: So seven cats, seven cats.
Speaker 6: Six right now, we'll see how the seventh one works.
She may not adjust the other cats, so she may
be an indoor outdoor cat, but at least I can
prevent her from having a litter of kittens in the
middle of the winter.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, am I once again let us know
if it hits something that's the runner on switchy. So
with the you know, with the yeah, that's really that.
Speaker 6: I will be going out to the dreaded T and
T area, yes where the old Norse power plant used
to stand, at about eleven pm on November fifteenth, to
see if the Garuda will come back.
Speaker 3: The Garuda is who man, oh that's his name, Garuda.
Speaker 6: Well they John Keel wanted to name his book the
Year of the Garuda because he saw kind of a
resemblance between the Hindu mythology about the Garuda, that giant bird,
and what people were supposedly seeing around Point Pleasant and
in the Ohio Valley.
Speaker 3: The Garuda. Yeah interesting, okay, all right.
Speaker 6: Well like something that would fight god Zilla something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly that twenty three. Yeah, it's a medical issue.
Thank you, you got Garuda. We'll take that out. Don't worry.
Speaker 6: If I had my Garuda removed, because you.
Speaker 3: Know Cat's going to have it and removed tomorrow. Wait
a minute, Thank you al for join anything, and thank
you one one.
Speaker 4: You're welcome. Glad to be here.
Speaker 3: Last thing, real real, real time, good time.
Speaker 5: My one of my brothers is a veteran gen and
uh he went into the service because the judge said
to him, you have two choices. You go in the
service you're going to. Back in our day, I grew
up with a lot of kids like that. Back in
our day, you had two choices if you went into
it before judge. And you know he went to the service.
So I guess I thank the judge for my brother's service.
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, thank you, al, thank you, wanne me, thank
you one.
Speaker 7: You will go ahead, please thank us we think yes
for having.
Speaker 3: Y thank you back. So thank you shit that. So anyway,
let's get to the plugs. Okay, plugs. First of all,
Homestruck Troops. Homestong Troops is a organization we've been talking
about for years, literally ten years, where they build homes
for our veterans who were wounded after nine to eleven
Iraqi War I Ran, it was the other Afghanistan. And
these are people who came back without limbs and they
build these houses were adapted to their needs. Not a
lot of stairs, not a lot of you know, lower
counters and so on. These people who gave a lot
up to us and we should give a lot to
them homeshow troops, please just google them see what they're
about ninety cents on your dollar. Goes right. The home
show Troops homesow Truths a great organization. We've been in
the homes before and I'm telling you they have fantastic homes.
They're building homes down at Massasoya down the Cape. Okay,
that is kind of prime real estate in the beautiful homes.
And they had the when we went to Lois and
I the like volunteers on the Patriots laid down the
loom on the lawn firm is really good shot troops.
Please see what they're up to. Also, I have to
make it and I hate to do it at the
end of the show, but it's come to my attention
that you see what happens. We've talked about this before,
is that Apple Podcasts, which like sixty to seventy percent
of our listeners listen to us on Apple Podcasts. But
they have a policy where they will put in their
own ads kind of willing nilling, as the kids say,
without editing in at the beginning of our podcast in
the middle at the end. We have no control over this. Okay,
We've said this before, but it's been brought to my
attention that now they are running ads not just from
lonely hots clubs and the University of Arizona, but for
ICE recruitment or recruiting people who want to join ICE.
I want to say right now, we have nothing to
do with this, Okay, this is completely on our hands. Okay,
And don't want to get political, but you know, we
know what ICE is doing. ICE is, you know, is
like you know, the vibe now is that they are
picking up the most vulnerable people in our society. And
that's not the American thing to do. Okay, So you know,
we have no control over this. And frankly, if if
an ICE recruitment ad appeals to you, just don't listen
to us anymore. Okay, it's non American. I'm sorry. It's
not American to pick on the people who have the
least amount of power, Okay. And on top of that
are veterans. Okay. There are people who are things now
who want to change Veterans Day to like War Victory
Day or some freaking thing. Okay, Veterans Day is to
it's to commemorate the end of World War One, but
it's also to commemorate veterans through all. I was, Okay,
why would you take that away. Why would you take
that away anyway? Once again, as.
Speaker 6: I got to say, I respectfully disagree with you ahead
on the ice, they are actually getting rid of some
pretty reprehensible people.
Speaker 3: Listen. I'm all for getting rid of people who are
drug deals and murders and stuff like that. I'm okay,
all right, but we did. I looked at the stats today,
and just in Texas, where you would think that this
would be a big, big problem, Okay, less than twenty
five percent of the crimes committed in Texas committed by
let's say, undocumented aliens. I don't want to get into this,
but it's a very very low number, and the people
are inflating that number just to get you mad at
these people who, for the most part, are just innocent
people who have come to this country to make more
money to send back to their families. Now, I know
there are a lot of people who you know, up
the high drinks and so on and so forth. I'm
all for getting rid of them, but you don't get
rid of, like, you know, two bad guys, for getting
rid of, you know, in the in the course of
sweeping one hundred people. Okay, this is just not the
American thing to do. You don't pick on the weak,
weakest people. You don't, it's not the American thing to do.
And the tactics and they're on TV. I'm sorry, it's
like the freaking.
Speaker 4: Maybe there's one in there that was a bad guy. Yeah,
so you get to sweep a whole shitload of people
and kids and stuff.
Speaker 3: Get rid of the murderers. You don't have to separate
families from the kids and all that ship and man,
and it's just political. It's political. It's non American. It's
not Americans. It's also non America. What they're doing to
our veterans. Okay, this is stuff we know. They they
laid off seventy five thousand people in the Veterans Administration.
The Veterans Administration was already you know, you know they're
trying to get you know, the care and so on
to our veterans and they cut them out. How do
you think that the care to our veterans is going
to improve if you get rid of like one quarter
of the workforce, seventy five thousand people. It's not okay,
they're going to tell veterans to go to urgent care
in your neighborhood. This is not how we treat these people.
It's not sorry, it's.
Speaker 7: Not American Suicide Hotline too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, and everything important, degrading the
people that we should respect most. I'm sorry. Anyway, this
is back for the entire gang, saying tears. Next time,
please be safe, be happy, and and bye bye mhm