Speaker 1: We go right after Kway Common Spirit Health Hotline to
Speaker 1: bring on our guy, Ryan Harris.
Speaker 2: Ryan, how you doing this evening?
Speaker 3: Hellas doing great? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely man, I always love having you on. We got
Speaker 1: a tough game coming up here against a really injured
Speaker 1: Chargers team. But you look at the Chargers how they
Speaker 1: played this year. They've been physical, They run the ball
Speaker 1: incredibly well.
Speaker 2: JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins averaged in an absurd six yards per carry. As
Speaker 1: we look at this, the Bronco has got a couple
Speaker 1: of injuries along that offensive line. It's set a position
Speaker 1: at the right tackle position going into this division game.
Speaker 1: What do you think about about the lines for both
Speaker 1: these teams?
Speaker 3: Well, I think the big challenge is going to be
Speaker 3: on the Broncos defensive line. No question. The Broncos defense
Speaker 3: has been able to get after the pass and being
Speaker 3: able to defend against it with the secondary. But you
Speaker 3: are going to get a consistent dose of run and JK.
Speaker 3: Dobbins has that high average because they will run the
Speaker 3: ball thirty five thirty times a game and not a
Speaker 3: lot of players want to sit in there. Berg will
Speaker 3: tell you not a lot of defenders want to sit
Speaker 3: and make so That's what the challenge is for the
Speaker 3: Broncos defensively, can they stop the run? And if I'm
Speaker 3: the vance Joseph, now, I'm looking at this as a
Speaker 3: huge opportunity to make up for last year's you know,
Speaker 3: big loss against Miami by shutting down the Chargers and
Speaker 3: getting a second consecutive divisional win based on the strength
Speaker 3: of your defense and helping and helping your while you're off.
Speaker 1: I think we lost Ryan there. We'll see if we
Speaker 1: can't get that connection back. But yeah, I mean he
Speaker 1: was making a point there for one of the big things.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the tough things about facing
Speaker 1: a physical, smash mouth run team like.
Speaker 2: That is having to be in there every play for
Speaker 2: the run.
Speaker 4: Well, the one thing you want to do from a
Speaker 4: defensive standpoint is make sure that everyone is on the
Speaker 4: same page. And I am of a friend of mine
Speaker 4: that defenders need to know where the run fits need
Speaker 4: to be. You can figure out the past, though, but
Speaker 4: if you can't fit up on the.
Speaker 2: Run even more, we saw that against Man. I think
Speaker 2: we got Ryan back.
Speaker 3: Now, Ryan You're there, I'm here, you got me there, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, No no worries at all, Man, you were cut
Speaker 1: off there or towards the end of your answer, do
Speaker 1: you want to finish that one out?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying that's you know, that defense, the
Speaker 3: challenges on the defense to stop the run and really
Speaker 3: put themselves on the map as one of the best
Speaker 3: defenses in the league.
Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about the offensive line, because you have
Speaker 4: Luke Wattenberg who is injured, in Pochwski who has an
Speaker 4: injury himself. As a guy that played on the offensive line,
Speaker 4: how difficult is it to go into a game like
Speaker 4: this with this magnitude. It's a divisional game we're talking about.
Speaker 4: You're playing against a Chargers defensive line that's been playing
Speaker 4: pretty well thus far this season.
Speaker 3: Well, don't play if you want to hide, that's the
Speaker 3: first part, right, I mean, if you if you are
Speaker 3: not looking for this opportunity, then you got the wrong
Speaker 3: guys on your offensive line. So it's not good to
Speaker 3: have injuries. I think Alex kel played fantastic while he
Speaker 3: was in but that means that somebody else is gonna
Speaker 3: get a opportun right. I Mean, we won the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl and Matt Parodis hadn't started a game yet and
Speaker 3: then ended up starting nineteen in a row and win
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. So offensive line is the easiest place
Speaker 3: to make good players great if you have technique taught
Speaker 3: at a consistent level. And so that's Zach Street's gonna
Speaker 3: have his work cut out for him this week. And
Speaker 3: if the players are being pros, they're going to ask questions.
Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing any one of us can do
Speaker 3: in a situation where we have opportunity is ask questions
Speaker 3: to make sure you know it inside and out. Nobody's
Speaker 3: gonna get mad at you for trying to find out
Speaker 3: as much information as you can so you can play,
Speaker 3: or you can act, or you can do as fast
Speaker 3: as you can to complete the objective.
Speaker 2: Broncos have started the season three and two. How surprised
Speaker 2: are you by that?
Speaker 1: And as you look ahead to the second quarter of
Speaker 1: the season, you don't want to overlook anybody, but this
Speaker 1: thing is setting up pretty nice for the Broncos to
Speaker 1: get to the halfway mark with a decent chance at
Speaker 1: a winning record or better.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not surprised because I got to see bow
Speaker 3: Knicks play last year at Oregon when USC was there,
Speaker 3: and I saw he had all the talent, and I
Speaker 3: know that you know coach Peyton has an offensive mind.
Speaker 3: I've seen that, that skill, that play calling. So it's
Speaker 3: not as surprising, but surprising as they won two games
Speaker 3: up to spending two weeks with each other. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys could do that on
Speaker 3: the show, right, if you had to lock yourselves away
Speaker 3: for two weeks and then get together and do a
Speaker 3: good show, you might be tired of each other as
Speaker 3: they're up there in Virginia. But they put it together
Speaker 3: and they're learning that to win, you have to play
Speaker 3: together and for each other. And that's not a surprise
Speaker 3: because the game of football teaches you to do that.
Speaker 4: As a guy who is the number one receiver for
Speaker 4: the Broncos and as Courtland said, we haven't really seen
Speaker 4: Courtland involved in the offense that much. What do you
Speaker 4: think is the reason as to want it that hasn't happened.
Speaker 3: We'll say it again one more time. Sorry you talked
Speaker 3: broke up there.
Speaker 4: Brother Corland sums supposed to be the number one wide
Speaker 4: receiving for the Denver Broncos and we haven't really seen
Speaker 4: him involved than the Broncos offense. Why do you think
Speaker 4: that is the case? And what do you think they
Speaker 4: should do to change that.
Speaker 3: Their bracket coveraging him because they know that's where Bonis
Speaker 3: wants to go with the football anytime he doesn't know
Speaker 3: what he's looking at. And offensively, you got to be
Speaker 3: prepared for that. And Josh Reynolds has to step up.
Speaker 3: He did last week. Let's see it again. You know,
Speaker 3: you got to find some production at the tight end position.
Speaker 3: It has to happen for an offense. You can't shoot
Speaker 3: yourself in the foot like that, and you got to
Speaker 3: convert on third down. But Corland Sutton, you know, he
Speaker 3: has turned a corner this year. His routes, his want to,
Speaker 3: his willingness, all of the things that you want your
Speaker 3: receiver to be he has. He just doesn't have anybody
Speaker 3: anywhere else on the field that's a pass catching threat
Speaker 3: that's consistent enough to get him to at least get
Speaker 3: man coverage thirty percent of the time.
Speaker 2: Well to that end, and I completely agree with you.
Speaker 1: In the tight end position, why are we not using
Speaker 1: our perhaps most explosive athlete in Marvin Mims. More, We've
Speaker 1: got Troy Franklin out there, guy who struggled a little
Speaker 1: bit in the he sees it in Campbell with beating
Speaker 1: the press in with you know, I with drops. So
Speaker 1: we saw the drop of a well placed Bonix pass
Speaker 1: a deep ball in the Raiders game. But Marvin Mims,
Speaker 1: who is I don't think it's even debatable that he's
Speaker 1: our most explosive athlete, can't find the field well.
Speaker 3: To be honest, I think it's a situation where you
Speaker 3: have a very calm demeanor, soft spoken player, and sometimes
Speaker 3: in an environment like the NFL, that's seen as maybe
Speaker 3: disinterested board or with an attitude. But you know, Mims
Speaker 3: is an amazing person in addition to being a great
Speaker 3: player and with speed, but I think his demeanor makes
Speaker 3: it so the coaches don't trust trust him as much
Speaker 3: or know what to do with them in the same time,
Speaker 3: So it's an opportunity for him to show up every
Speaker 3: day at the right mindset and and show the coaches
Speaker 3: that he wants to be there. And I think his
Speaker 3: time's coming. You know, he's a little bit more straight
Speaker 3: line speed than you need in an offense, but I
Speaker 3: think he's willing to do the work to improve well.
Speaker 4: Speaking of the guy who is stepping up to and
Speaker 4: living up to the Bill, Riley Moss now Ben has
Speaker 4: coined the difference a name for Roley Moss, and Ben,
Speaker 4: you call.
Speaker 2: You got ps two and next Moss three sixty.
Speaker 4: So watching Riley come of age, what have you thought
Speaker 4: about his style the play up to this point.
Speaker 3: Well, I love that Riley Moss made the improvement week
Speaker 3: after week, right, I mean the two weeks ago he's
Speaker 3: against the Jets, he gives up the pass interference late
Speaker 3: in the game, and then the very next week turns
Speaker 3: around and gets a pick on the same play. Right,
Speaker 3: So that willingness to learn, I mean, that's something that
Speaker 3: you need from a corner. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: One of the other things about this defense that's really
Speaker 1: kind of stuck with me as we watched this thing
Speaker 1: early in the season, like how well they're playing. But
Speaker 1: you have one first round pick and the starters that's
Speaker 1: Patser ten. You've got six guys that are Day three
Speaker 1: or undrafted picks that are out there starting on this
Speaker 1: defense right now, and that.
Speaker 2: Really speaks to me. It talks a lot.
Speaker 1: About first of all, the Broncos scouting staff and how
Speaker 1: they're able to evaluate players, and then second of all,
Speaker 1: how these players are making the most of opportunity.
Speaker 3: Well, and especially making the most of playing with Patrick Shirtam.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. He allows you to put
Speaker 3: a baseball shift on against the offense. And I mean
Speaker 3: to think that justin Sanad is starting at linebacker and
Speaker 3: they really haven't skipped the beat is something that only
Speaker 3: anybody expects to have happened. But I think there's a
Speaker 3: I think to your point, Ben, I think the GMS
Speaker 3: wanted to get guys in there who are willing to
Speaker 3: study the game and who want to learn the game.
Speaker 3: You can have talented, talented players who do not want
Speaker 3: to pay attention to x's and o's, and it might
Speaker 3: work for them, but you get five to six hack
Speaker 3: eleven guys that are willing to put in that work,
Speaker 3: you win many games, and not only that, you improve
Speaker 3: while winning, which is a sign of great players and
Speaker 3: great character in those players. Right.
Speaker 4: Is there something schematically that you would like to see
Speaker 4: the Broncos explore on Sunday that we haven't seen thus far?
Speaker 3: Berg. I want them to use the tight end. I
Speaker 3: want to put that defense in a grinder. I want
Speaker 3: two tight ends, and I want to put them in
Speaker 3: a wing formation on the week side twice. You know
Speaker 3: what I mean? I just you have to have not
Speaker 3: only do you have to have the tight ends to
Speaker 3: do it, but you need your offense to know how
Speaker 3: confident they can be when you have that tight end position,
Speaker 3: not just blocking on all, especially against the blitz, which
Speaker 3: that's coming. For Bonick, he faked a little bit of blitz.
Speaker 3: But with the Vikings and Vance Joseph's defense doing so
Speaker 3: well in blitzing, I mean, these teams, the defenses want
Speaker 3: to be talked about too, So the blitzer are coming
Speaker 3: and I'd love to see something. I'd love to see
Speaker 3: a six yard pass over the middle on second to eight,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and then run it for
Speaker 3: a first down and on third down. So that's the
Speaker 3: kind of place that the players have to be willing
Speaker 3: to work in. And to be honest, there's thirty percent
Speaker 3: of the NFL teams this year they don't got rosters
Speaker 3: that are willing to grind it out like that. And
Speaker 3: that's what you need to do. If you're the Broncos,
Speaker 3: you need to teach the young players and inexperienced players
Speaker 3: on your team how hard it is to work and
Speaker 3: win every single week. And I think they have a
Speaker 3: great They're on the right path and they're doing things
Speaker 3: the right way, and they're and they're being patient and
Speaker 3: creating urgency at the same time.
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned the Broncos and the Vikings, you know,
Speaker 1: with the high blitz numbers, and they are Is that
Speaker 1: the modern is that.
Speaker 2: The new blueprint?
Speaker 1: We've seen the league basically pivot to the Vic Fangio defense,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, that tight front and quarters match
Speaker 1: on the back end, and it's dropping everybody back and
Speaker 1: hoping your pressure gets home with three or four.
Speaker 2: And now we're.
Speaker 1: Seeing success with guys like Vance Joseph and Brian Flores
Speaker 1: who are blitzing on Dvance's case forty plus percent of
Speaker 1: the time, putting the corners on an island playing center
Speaker 1: field back. There is the league pivoting back to perhaps
Speaker 1: the Wade Phillips style of defense.
Speaker 3: Well, that's how bad quarterbacks are right now in the NFL.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's be clear. You can blitz your face
Speaker 3: off against Tom Brady and you'll lose by fifty. Right,
Speaker 3: do you blitz your face off against Patrick Mahomes, You're
Speaker 3: gonna lose by fifty. You do it to Josh Allen,
Speaker 3: you're gonna lose by fifty so I think that is
Speaker 3: I think what people miss is it's great for defenses,
Speaker 3: right because it forces offenses to communicate and to study
Speaker 3: and to pay attention to meetings, and if you don't
Speaker 3: do that, you're gonna get beat, especially in key moments.
Speaker 3: But it's also indicative of the fact that there are
Speaker 3: about five quarterbacks in the NFL that can change the
Speaker 3: play at the line of scrimmage and or change a
Speaker 3: route to get the guy open against the blitz. So
Speaker 3: defenses are having their heyday because they don't have the
Speaker 3: same quality across the board as maybe ten years ago
Speaker 3: or even five years ago in the NFL.
Speaker 4: If you're are offensive lineman on the Broncos roster right now,
Speaker 4: what would be your words to bow Knick's pro or coon?
Speaker 4: What would you say to him with him being your
Speaker 4: starting quarterback?
Speaker 3: I love the social media video, Let's make one in January.
Speaker 3: That's what I'd say to him, you know, And I
Speaker 3: think that it's so easy, and for you've been there too.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's so hard to explain to people when
Speaker 3: you are in the NFL and you're winning games, and
Speaker 3: you win your first game at home in front of fans,
Speaker 3: you're on a little streak and go to the I mean,
Speaker 3: it's so hard to pay attention to the bigger goal
Speaker 3: because it feels so good in the moment for that week.
Speaker 3: But you've got to pay attention to the fact that
Speaker 3: it's a seventeen game regular season and that if you
Speaker 3: want to win, you got to win nineteen of them.
Speaker 3: And it's just such a monstrous haul that that's what
Speaker 3: I would say. I would say, Hey, I'm so thrilled
Speaker 3: we're winning. Let's make sure we're winning so that we
Speaker 3: can win in January too.
Speaker 1: That was Ryan Harris, former Broncos offensive tackle, Super Bowl
Speaker 1: champion alumnus of Notre Dame, as switch gears to the
Speaker 1: college football ranks. I get, first of all, an eyeball question.
Speaker 1: See if you know anything about this. You know about
Speaker 1: the quarterback from UNLV who with the nil agreements and
Speaker 1: decided to take a red shirt.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like.
Speaker 1: UNLV's missed a beat because they have forty something points
Speaker 1: in the first half against Utah State right now. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, they've been put up points ever
Speaker 1: since he did that. That situation perfected me a little bit, because,
Speaker 1: on the one hand, I want everybody to get the money.
Speaker 2: I want a kid to get his money. Anything that
Speaker 2: was promised, I want to get that.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, it felt sort of like he
Speaker 1: was quitting on his team, and I didn't really know
Speaker 1: what to do with that. I guess it's the old
Speaker 1: school of me that doesn't know what to do with
Speaker 1: some of this new school in IL money.
Speaker 3: Well, lesson learned for the player, right. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: there's all kinds of ways to go about business, but
Speaker 3: we all understand what it's like to be human. And
Speaker 3: clearly that coach told this player that he was going
Speaker 3: to get more money than he was. They were winning
Speaker 3: players stepped out to renegotiate. Now the player knows his
Speaker 3: value went down. The price just went down, right, So
Speaker 3: I love that NIL holds coaches responsible and more enshrines
Speaker 3: the individual rights of players, right, because now you can
Speaker 3: transfer if your coach lies to you. I I know who,
Speaker 3: and Berg's got stories too. We know people who they
Speaker 3: commit to a school, and one kid I know they
Speaker 3: after he committed, they told him to cut all his hair.
Speaker 3: He couldn't show up on campus with it, and he
Speaker 3: couldn't study for the degree he wanted. It was literally
Speaker 3: the week later. So nil is great. Get young people
Speaker 3: introduced to money and contracts as early as possible so
Speaker 3: that they make their mistakes as young as possible. And
Speaker 3: that quarterback just learned that he's going to be known
Speaker 3: for whatever people's opinions are of him stepping out on
Speaker 3: this team versus head. He kept playing and been the
Speaker 3: starting quarterback of a four and oh or five and
Speaker 3: oh UNLV team in Las Vegas and shock in the
Speaker 3: world and maybe transferring somewhere next year where he's going
Speaker 3: to get some shine as.
Speaker 4: An offensive lineman. I got to ask this question, which
Speaker 4: quarterback would you love to play for or play with?
Speaker 4: A guy who is your premier pocket passer or that
Speaker 4: guy who has the ability to manipulate the pocket wants
Speaker 4: to starts to break down.
Speaker 2: Which which guy did you rather block? Four?
Speaker 3: The third guy, the one who can do both, and
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Jayden Daniels and or Patrick Mahomes. I mean,
Speaker 3: you need both, you need the What people fail to
Speaker 3: remember is that when you have a quarterback that's a
Speaker 3: dual threat quarterback that everybody knows what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3: They want to run early like a Lamar Jackson, even
Speaker 3: though he is a great pocket passer. Let's not get
Speaker 3: it twisted. However, when you sing in the pocket, you
Speaker 3: force the defense to play its natural pass defense. And
Speaker 3: the more you can sit in the pocket, even eight
Speaker 3: nine times in a row, the more that they're gonna
Speaker 3: start doing drop coverages, especially if you're getting some yards
Speaker 3: and first down through the pass. But if you don't
Speaker 3: have a guy that can break out in those team
Speaker 3: moments and still get it downfield, you're gonna lose a
Speaker 3: lot of football games. So I'll take the guys that
Speaker 3: can do both. I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw Josh
Speaker 3: Allen on that list too. Now. I won't put it.
Speaker 3: He's earned that too. So the three guys in the
Speaker 3: NFL who can do it right now, I'll take those
Speaker 3: three because they can do both.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, man Ay Ryan. We really appreciate you
Speaker 2: taking some time out for us tonight and join us.
Speaker 2: We always appreciate having you on the show.
Speaker 3: Brother fell as fun as always, peace YEP, take care, right,
Speaker 3: Harris