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your support. Our number three. We always talk with ap Dylan.

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She is a reporter at the North State Journal ansjonline

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dot com, also the publisher of her Substack newsletter. More

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to the story, Ap, how are you today? I'm good, Pet,

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and I'm doing all right. So we've been talking about

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the whole, you know piece in the Middle East thing.

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Just any thoughts on that. Are you optimistic?

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Speaker 2: Well, they've received all twenty of the living hostages back.

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It's waiting on the room of all the ones that

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died as a result of being taken hostage by Hamas.

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I'm not optimistic about that one that Hamas seems to

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have not been able to find where they put the body. Yeah,

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which is just horrifying. In and of itself. But I

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think this is this is a historic event. I mean,

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I don't know that. I don't know that. I in

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my lifetime, I can recall anything is momentous in terms

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of hostage releases, you know, going all the way back

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to when the Iran hostages were finally So this this

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is big. And uh, you know the Trump administration credit,

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where's credits due? You know, they they've pulled this off.

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Speaker 3: No, no, we're not allowed to do that.

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Speaker 1: Ab We're not allowed to give Trump any bit of

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credit on this whatsoever anybody could have done. I saw also,

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I saw uh, Anthony Blinkeln, the former Secretary of State

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under Joe Biden, worthless guy, and he was he's saying, well,

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you know, basically, we negotiated this whole deal, and he

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just like took it off the shelf and and and

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adopted our plan or something like they're trying to claim though.

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Speaker 2: At the twenty step plan that Trump put out is

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nothing even remotely close to what the Biden administration was

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talking about. Yeah, or you know, it was ultimately rejected

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before it was even put on the table, So.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, it's just yeah, it's insanity.

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Speaker 1: But I mean as I think I said earlier, and

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I think we all recognized, this is exactly what Hitler

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would do, you know, bring together all of these countries

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for a peace deal and connect them to its success

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to try to avoid war.

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Speaker 3: That's totally what an Orange Hitler would do.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Babylon B had a headline Hitler Free the Juice.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, Oh that's classic Hitler frees the Jews.

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Speaker 3: That's great record.

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Speaker 1: So all right, so let's talk a little bit about

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a piece you've got up at your sub stack and

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more to the story headline, FBI drops Southern Poverty Loss

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and as partner. So first, what is the Southern Poverty

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Law Center? Who is this organization?

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Speaker 2: Well, it goes way back to Silver, right, So they

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used attract you know, the KKK and that sort of think.

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That's sort of how they, you know, got their fame

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and fortune was tracking extremist groups, in particular white supremacists

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and the KKAK. But as that's that well sort of

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just started to dry up and white supremacists became few

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and far too far between the track, they started turning

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their eyes on anyone who is ideologically different than those

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on the progressive left. They've labeled, you know, organist churches

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and organizations that you know are just basically, you know,

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just Christian Christian denominations, and put them on their quote

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hate map, right, which has been a source of controversy

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for some time now.

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Speaker 1: And you outline a couple of these organizations, Moms for Liberty,

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that terrorist organization. Uh, yeah, we know, Yeah, they landed

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on the hate map for what was you wrote here

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that they got labeled anti government general?

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Speaker 3: So just a general anti government.

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Speaker 1: Right, not specific policies pertaining to books and transgender policy.

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That's not at all what they were focused on, just

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in general. They were just anti government. They also put

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on the list Turning Point USA.

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Speaker 2: Yep, just as past Spring.

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Speaker 3: Totally hatefield.

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Speaker 1: This is obviously why the left continues to call Turning Point,

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you know some hate bongerers and such. Now they did

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have historically, they had, and I think the Family Research Council,

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I think they're actually still on the hate map, even though.

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Speaker 2: Even after they had that attempted terror attack at their

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offices by Floydlee Corkin's what was that back in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like ten or fifteen years ago or something. Yeah,

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like the guy walked in and shot the place up

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killed a security guard. Yeah, because the I mean, like,

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who would do that? The Family Research Council, How would

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you even know this thing exists because it's like a

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it's a conservative like think tank, research firm or whatever.

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But they landed on that hate map, and this guy

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saw it and went in and tried to murder a

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bunch of the people there.

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Speaker 2: He was intercepted by a security guard. If I recall

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who I think did get shot. Yeah, he got killed, correctly,

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but he stopped it. And he's brought Chick fil a

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sandwiches and to put on the dead bodies. That was

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part of this guy's point. I mean, wow, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I did not know that. That's that's horrifying. And then

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you also had James Hodgkinson, which is always, for some

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reason left out of all discussions of left wing violence.

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For some reason, he was the guy that tried to

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assassinate like a third of the Republican delegation while they

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were practicing for a charity softball game. Yep, and this guy,

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so what was the connection? So do we know that

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at Hodgkinson was aware of the SPLC.

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Speaker 2: He was, he had liked several of their fate He's

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following them on Facebook, like several other posts, including one

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that included the hate map I believe. Ah, okay, so

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that was how he was linked to.

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Speaker 1: That a closer link than say, the guy Jared Lockner

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that went and tried to murder Gabby Giffords down in Arizona.

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We have a stronger connection of an actual visual graphic

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that was seen by the shooter that would have connected

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him to the target versus the Gabby Giffords attempted murder

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where there's no proof that Lackner ever even heard of

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the bullseye map that the Palin campaign had put up

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on a wall to target congressional distance. Yeah that was okay, yeah,

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never yet, no connection ever, but the left tried to

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make it such. In fact, just recently too, like within

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the last couple of years. I remember the New York

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Times in editorial cited the Gifford's attack as proof of

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right wing extremism based on that map. And it's like

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the guy never saw the map. He was he was

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a paranoid schizophrenic. He thought grammar was thought control, like

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he was insane anyway. So the Southern Poverty Law Center

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for people who are not aware they had what some

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sort of a relationship with the FBI.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was sort of we don't know how far

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exactly it goes back, but there were documents that were

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dropped recently that showed that they had been offering basically

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tutoring and prompting FBI officials and others in the department

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with talking points so that they could go out and

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target certain groups. So it got kind of twist the

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inturney in there. But those documents were first unearthed by

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America First Legal and they have been looking into the

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Biden administration and their law enforcement priorities for quite some time,

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and they got these documents through Freedom of Information Act

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request which resulted in ultimately result in litigation against the

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Biden administration. And to quote the New York Posts who

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reported on this, so they said that by twenty twenty two,

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members of the Civil Rights Division were directly soliciting SPLC,

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which is a Southern poverty law center for civil rights issues.

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They should be quote tracking an inviting the group to

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attend quarterly to departmental meetings, and they were giving they

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were talking to the Biden DJ and got exclusive access

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to federal hate crime databases in order to quotet help

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craft talking points for the DJ and going after these organizations.

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And I mean, we had all those congressional hearings about

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the targeting of Catholic charities and Catholic institutions and Catholics

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in general. So one has to wonder if if all

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this wasn't tied to SPLC's activities behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: Well, sure, yeah, you think so.

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Speaker 2: You know, also going after parents.

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Speaker 1: Right school, anybody that spoke at like school board meetings

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or school board candidates or school board members that expressed

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any kind of opposition or hesitancy about you know, the

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sexually graphic books that were being put on the shelves

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for you know, middle schoolers and such.

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Speaker 3: They got targeted. And so I was not aware of this.

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Speaker 1: Also, but they are a nonprofit and so now what

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they're there are simply you write that there are calls

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for an investigation into the SPLC's nonprofit status because you're

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not allowed to engage in partisan activity. And I was

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unaware of this, but there are there's there's I guess

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an allegation or is there any proof of this yet

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that they've gotten money stashed overseas.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were two reports that came out. I want

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to say. One was maybe from the Daily Wire, the

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Daily Signal. I'm trying to remember which one, but I

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do know that the Washington freebeekon several years back reported

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on they had over thirty million dollars stashed away in

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offshores accounts, which is according to nonprofit death you can't

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do that. Oh so yeah, you can't stash your money

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off offshore. It has to be here in US bank.

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So that was something that was dropped and that was

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easily I think two years ago that that one came out.

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I think that Congress is going to be taking a

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look at that there. You know, more than one of

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the Oversight Committee members has brought it up in the

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last two or three months in an open hearing. They've

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been mentioned a couple of times, and I think that

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you're going to see the House Judiciary Chair James Comber

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probably announced something that they're going to be looking into them.

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Speaker 1: Well, couldn't happen to a nicer organization. AP always a pleasure,

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Thanks so much for joining us. I appreciate it, all right,

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thank you, Yes sir, yes, ma'am. I should say you

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can also read more about this story at her substack

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at ap substack. More to the story and the headline

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is FBI drops Southern Poverty Law Center as a partner.

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You can also read a reporting at the North State

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memories that'll last a lifetime. Mecklimber County Judge on Friday afternoon,

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Ugh this okay? Do you remember the other day when

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a whole bunch of members of Congress came to Charlotte

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for a field hearing about crime?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember? I played a clip.

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Speaker 1: The clip was of a woman named Mia Alderman, and

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she talked about the murder of her granddaughter, Mary Collins,

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who was developmentally disabled. She was lured to an apartment,

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she was murdered, she was stabbed like one hundred and

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thirty times, her body was stuffed in a mattress. Four

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people were arrested, charged, and then she talked about what

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happened to some of them, particularly one of them was

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a woman and her name is America Deal and I

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believe she lives in South Carolina. And the grandmother said

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that this suspect, this defendant had cut off her ankle

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monitor several times had posted on social media like mocking

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the family and the courts and everybody else, like totally

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without remorse. Right. So she apparently had an appearance last

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week in court and on Friday afternoon, Mecklenburg County Judge

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David Strickland declined to revoke the bond. Declined to revoke,

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meaning he did not put her on a bond. He

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sent her back home. She was charged in connection with

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the murder of Mary Collins in twenty twenty. Her bond

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will remain the same after Judge David Strickland decided he

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would not revoke it and her ankle monitor would be

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removed despite requests from the Mecklenburg County District Attorney's office.

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So the DA is asking revoke her bond and keep

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the ankle monitor, and the judge said no, and no,

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she's going to be freed from the ank monitor which

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she had cut off. Like that's a big deal, you

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cut off your ankle monitor, Like they get a signal

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immediately and then they go and arrest you. And that

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the idea is if you cut off the ankle monitor,

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then you go back into the jail. That's the way

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that's supposed to work. I guess in her case, she

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gets a little bit of special treatment for some reason,

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even though the DA is like, do not take her

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off of the ankle monitor, and we want to hire bond,

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and the judge rejected both of those requests. America Deal,

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along with three other people, are facing charges for their

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alleged involvement in killing Mary Collins in twenty twenty. The

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prosecution said Collins was stabbed more than one hundred and

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thirty times and bludgeoned to death. Her body was found

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wrapped in plastic and stuffed in a mattress. The District

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Attorney's office and the ankle monitoring company said Deal has

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repeatedly violated the conditions of her bond. Well, then, what

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is the freaking point of a bond? What's the point

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why even bother? Just let her out right, Just save

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us all some court costs, save us some time, clear

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up some of the backlog in the court system, and

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not even have the hearing. What's the point if you

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can violate the terms of your bond and there is

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no ramifications for it except obviously a win. You actually

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you get a reward for it. You can cut your

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monitor off and then when the DA says, hey, we

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want you to increase her bond because she's been in

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violation of the terms of her release and she's cutting

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off the ankle monitor, So keep that on her and

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you get rewarded for violating the terms of your release.

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Why would anybody follow the terms of the release, especially criminals,

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especially somebody a cue boosed in a horrific murder who

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has already displayed on her own social media accounts that

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she has no remorse for what she participated in and

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is antagonizing and mocking the victim's family and the court system.

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What are you even doing here, Judge David Strickland, What

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the hell are you doing? The DA's office and the

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ankle monitoring company says she's repeatedly violated the conditions of

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her bond, including letting her ankle monitor die, as well

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as violating curfew over the past two years. Her attorney argued,

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she's not a threat to the community. It's not like

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she would participate in some gruesome murder. Oh wait, sorry, Okay, yeah,

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he didn't say that. But she's not a threat to

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the community. And look, she has a job.

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Speaker 3: Look at that. Oh good job. You're supposed to have

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a job.

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Speaker 1: Why are you, like to quote the philosopher Chris Rock,

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why do you want credit for something you're supposed to do. Also,

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the attorney said that she would cooperate with the prosecution. Okay,

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all right, so maybe this is what's happening. Okay, she's

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going to be a state's witness. Okay, well, then why

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is the district attorney asking you to keep the monitor?

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Why are they asking for the bond? Why do they

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have you back in court on this m I'm not convinced.

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That's just what her attorney argued, which that attorney is

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supposed to represent their clients, so I totally understand why

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they're making this argument. But the family of the victim

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that was in the courtroom visibly upset crying over this, Like,

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I am just at a loss for words at the

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lack of empathy for the family of the murdered that's

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on display here. You reward the defendant and further traumatize

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the victim's family. So this is one of your judges,

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folks in Mecklenburg County, Judge David Strickland, that's one of them.

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chat with Shirley. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hello Shirley, Hey, how are you? Hey? I'm well, how

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are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm worried about this David Stirclin that's on the bench

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and he's going to be there until twenty thirty. What

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do we do in the meantime? Is there any way

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to get rid of him?

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Speaker 1: There is a process for rem moving judges in North Carolina,

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but it would require some courage and backbone and a

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willingness to go against one's own party.

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Speaker 3: Among local officials.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because he is a Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Right, ran unopposed in his last election in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Is he pretty consistent with this sort of you know,

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decisions from the barge that.

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Speaker 3: I do that I do not know that I don't know.

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Speaker 4: But how do you find out? I'll be glad to

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do the research. How do you find out?

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Speaker 1: You would have to go back and find every docket

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that he has presided over, okay, and then find out

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like what his rulings were in all of those all

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of those individual cases.

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Speaker 4: I find it amazing that people that have this power

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are able to put us in such danger. And then

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they say that you know, they're trying to keep the

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public safe. No you're not.

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Speaker 1: No, No, you're not no this yeah, like yeah, when

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when the DA comes to you and says that they

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want to revoke this woman's bond for multiple violations, and

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your answer is no, I'm not going to revoke the bond.

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And not only am I not going to do that,

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but I'm also going to remove the ankle monitoring bracelet

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off of her, even though she has multiple infractions of

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letting it either letting the battery die or well I

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should I say she cut off the monitoring It could

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have just been that she let the battery die on

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multiple occasions. And maybe that's what they claimed, was that

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she never took it off. It just died repeatedly because

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you got to recharge it.

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Speaker 5: Useless.

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Speaker 4: Basically it was useless, right, she might have well had

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not might as well not have had one on.

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Speaker 3: Correct, well, and now she won't. She was rewarded for it,

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so now she won't.

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Speaker 1: So it's.

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Speaker 4: Right up, my uh, I just don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's super frustrating, and yeah, yeah, it's it's

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very frustrating and unfortunately, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That big meeting with people, you know, people coming in

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to find out what's going on, that we're having problems

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in this area and and something like that. You find

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out they're just letting them go. And and to say

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the DA is trying to get him to be more

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forceful in his findings or his decision. That speaks volumes

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because that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, you're yeah, you're right now. There is

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a I'm trying to remember because it's been a while,

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but there is a There is an office in the

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court system that compiles data on on the out comes

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of cases per judge. So there is this data that exists.

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I've seen it. It's been years, okay, like it's been

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probably four years since I saw one report that somebody

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inside the system gave me to show the different bail

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rates and the types of bail that were being offered.

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So they do track this stuff internally. I am fairly

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confident that you can request it. I don't remember the

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office that compiles the data, but I have seen it,

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and it's a chart and it had the different judges,

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and it had the disposition of cases with the percentage

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of But it doesn't get granular, you know, It doesn't

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show you every individual case. It just gives you percentages

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of like how many people are they letting out, how

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many people are they are they remanding to.

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Speaker 3: Custody, that kind of thing. Wow something. Yeah, so there

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is some data.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to pursue it, yeah, like start

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asking around in the court system. Like I said, I

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wish I could remember what the office was, but it's

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been years since somebody showed me that document.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, all right, Charlie.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you take care.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the call.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it's like, hmm, it's like the office of something.

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Speaker 3: But I forget.

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Speaker 1: It's what happens. I get older. I forget these things.

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I apologize. I have some texts and some emails. Democrats

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have quit talking about defending police. Now they just let

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criminals go. After all, it would cost money to build

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more jail cells. Uh yeah, well that was there. That

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was literally Their argument was that it's too expensive. And

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they talk about you know, the cars state, the prison

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industrial complex and all of this, but it's all aimed

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at one thing, which is to undermine safety. Because that's

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how you undermine the pillars that are the foundation of

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Western society. That's the point. That's why the Left is

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always pursuing these types of things. It's because they want

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to tear down these institutions of our society and they

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want to replace it with Marxism. Like that's the idea,

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that's always been the idea. That's why I say, like,

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the issue is never the issue. The issue is always

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the revolution. You just swap one thing out, stick another

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thing in. I'm not aware of what's happening on the stream.

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Apparently there are some technical issues. Has the judge given

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a reasoning as to why he made the decision? I

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see no reasoning in this report from WBTV. That's what

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I'm relying on. They were there in the courtroom, but

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there's no explanation off by the judge or in this

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story that explains his decision.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's,

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and before he died, my mom and my dad took

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care of him as he got worse. Forty years ago,

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there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers

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and family. But things are different today because of the

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work of so many people, including the Alzheimer's Association of

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Western Carolina. It's a great organization with awesome people with

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huge hearts. I've been a supporter for twenty five years.

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This cause means a lot to me. I participate in

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the annual walk to end Alzheimer's and I'm leading a

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Charlotte team again this year, and it's called once again

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Pete's Pack. You can sign up and you can join

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the team and walk with us. It's on October eighteenth,

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that truest field. Sign up at alz dot org slash

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Walk and then you could search for my team name

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Pete's Pack. There's also a link at the petepod dot com.

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There's also a link in the description of this podcast. Also,

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I'll be am seeing the Gastonia Walk on aber eleventh then,

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so you can make a team and join that one too,

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or make a donation and help me hit my goal

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of five thousand dollars. If you do, I really appreciate it.

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There are a bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas.

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You can go to alz dot org slash walk for

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all the dates and locations. We're closer than ever to

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stopping Alzheimer's. Can you help us get there. Will you

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walk with me for a different future, for families, for

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more time for treatments. This is why we walk from

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Allen Pete mandatory drug testing for all judges and magistrates.

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I'm listening. That's a pretty good idea. Jeff says he

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loves the philosophy of Chris Rock. Yes, he has some

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deep insights. And Kirk says, if I was Mary Collins relative,

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I'd have a hard time to not take the law

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into my own hands. Well, they did say the DA's

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office said that this murder trial, they expect the case

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to go to trial at some point in twenty twenty six.

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Mary Collins was murdered in twenty twenty six years just

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to go to trial. Stuart says, Pete, what would be

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the harm in suggesting people write the state legislature or

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the judge's office to vocalize their concerns of as blatant

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disregard for holding criminals accountable? I missed if he's federal

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or he's state. He's a state superior court judge Mecklenburg County.

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Does anybody have impeachment powers over this judge? So all

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right to answer the first question, what would be the harm.

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There is no harm. If you would like to write

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the judge, if you would like to write the state legislature,

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if you would like to write county commissioners, you could

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write to all of them. I don't know if that

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will actually result in anything, because again that's why I

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said to Shirley, it would rely on Democrats having some

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modicum of courage in making some sort of an effort

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against this judge. And I have not seen any indication

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over years that Democrats want to pursue any other type

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of judicial philosophy than what we have seen. They keep

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electing the same judges, literally the same judges, and they

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keep using the same judicial philosophy, So I don't have

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any Look, you can't even get people to try to

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move against the sheriff, right so I just don't see

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it happening with the judges. But you can absolutely write letters,

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post on social media about it. Sure you could do that,

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You could amplify. That's I'm amplifying this story right now

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in order to let you know what the WBTV story

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is and highlight this judge and this decision, which again

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there's no explanation for why he decided to do this.

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It doesn't make any sense. And that's what you know, honestly,

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That's what journalism is supposed to do, is to help

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the citizens make sense of decisions or issues of the day,

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and this decision is not explained. Now, maybe the judge

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did not offer an explanation. Maybe he did and it

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didn't make it into the story for some reason. I

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don't know. I don't know. I don't know if the

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reporter or they got two reporters, Katie Salt and Spencer Chrisman.

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I don't know if either of them were actually in

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the hearing, if they were actually at this court proceeding,

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or if they got the information after the fact. So

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maybe that's why they don't have the ex explanation from

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the judge, if one was even offered.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. All I can do is tell you this.

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Speaker 1: Information that I've got in front of me from the

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WBTV story and ask the obvious question, why why when

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the DA is asking for something like this, and you've

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got repeated violations that are supporting the DA's position, why

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do you then go the opposite direction and go softer

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not harder when the DA's asking for harder and you

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actually roll it back it just doesn't make sense. Okay,

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let me get Randy on before the end of the show. Here, Hello, Randy,

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welcome to the program.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, Pete, just suiting answer. I might be a

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little off base here. I think you're referring to issue

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with one of the judges. I guess I'm gonna chime

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in and say this. At the last several general elections

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of that I participated in, when you go all to

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all the judgeships that are available, and the people who

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are running, they're all Democrats. You might casey center up,

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Republican or conservative. Because I do my homework, I either

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looked to say if they're a Democrat or see which

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way they lean in their political beliefe. And it's my

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trying to thought that you probably can't get a Republican

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to run because he'd be losing money if he left

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practice of his private law practice. So I think we're

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just it's the judges and we just will chief select

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them because nobody else runs. Right.

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Speaker 1: So this guy, this judge David Strickland, he was unopposed

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in his last election, the previous one before that. If

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I recall he ran against he had a Democrat primary.

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He won his Democrat primary, no general. So this is

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pretty standard, and there are a number of reasons for it. Randy,

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I appreciate the call. There are a number of reasons

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for it. One, as you mentioned, a lot of lawyers

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may end up taken a pay cut if they go

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to work as a judge, right, they could take a

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pay cut. The other is that in the legal community

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it is predominantly Democrat in Mecklinburg County, which means you

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have to raise money among Democrats because the bar is

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packed with Democrats. That's who they raise money off of,

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and that's who they've worked with, these judges and that

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sort of thing, right in the private practices and such,

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So there are a lot of personal connections but also

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political ties and so Republicans then if you try to

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run against an incumbent Democrat judge and you lose, now

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you end up having to appear before that judge. That's

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not ideal. So there are a number of factors why

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Republicans don't run against these Democrat judges in districts that

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are Democrat controlled. All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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