WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:07.080 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:08.800 Sports Talk seven ninety. 3 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:14.919 Now, here's nit coffee. 4 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:16.199 All right, hour number two here on a Halloween edition 5 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:19.399 of Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's here on Sports 6 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:21.760 Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us, don't 7 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.160 forget take us with you wherever you go. Listen live 8 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:27.440 on the iHeartRadio app. Listen live. It's seven ninety Louisville 9 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:29.199 dot Com. One hour're in with two more to go. 10 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:32.240 As I don't know if there's any kids out there 11 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.719 trigger treating right now. It's a little early. However, I 12 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:37.679 stepped outside just a moment ago and it's not nice out, 13 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.679 but it did briefly stop like raining. It was kind 14 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:43.320 of a drizzle, a little bit you know, sprinkle maybe 15 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:46.039 a little bit more than sprinkling. And hey, that's better 16 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:49.679 than if we just get you know, showers. But fingers crossed, 17 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:52.280 let's bring him in. He's the one and only Kent 18 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:55.320 Spencer from Whas eleven can't. We talked a week ago 19 00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:00.479 and our positive vibes did not didn't too much for 20 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:02.560 us because the rain is here. I don't know what 21 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.959 Endo Town you are in. Is it still nasty as 22 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:05.599 ever out there? 23 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:06.840 It's not. 24 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:10.680 It's not nasty where I am right now, But you know, 25 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:13.159 you don't know when it could when it could pick 26 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.760 up again. Let me tell you something, Nick, We have 27 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.840 had perfect weather for two straight weeks, and I would 28 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:24.400 have given anything to move this day to one of those. 29 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:27.840 Days and had this day be really, really nice. 30 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:33.359 Come on, man, Timmy couldn't have been worse. Mother Nature. 31 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:37.280 She's a nasty woman, Kent, she's she's she's wrong for this, 32 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:40.840 because you're right, we've had perfect weather and it I mean, 33 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:42.760 I guess it did start a little earlier than I 34 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:44.200 was expecting. But you know, if you were just looking 35 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:46.280 at the forecast last night early this morning, like it 36 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:48.319 was just supposed to start raining right as soon as 37 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:50.719 kids would be would be starting to trick or treat. 38 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:52.680 So maybe maybe we can hold off again. I think 39 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:54.159 if you can get like an hour and a half 40 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:56.519 to where it's not it's not raining hard and it's 41 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.959 maybe just sprinkling here and there that you know, that 42 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.000 wouldn't be ideal, but that'd be better than you know, 43 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:04.120 just nothing but rain, but fingers crossed. What are the 44 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:07.799 kids being for Halloween? Are they too old to dress up? 45 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:12.520 So my my fourteen year old daughter, she's gonna go 46 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:13.000 with friends. 47 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.039 This is actually gonna be this is a this is 48 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:15.680 a tough one. 49 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:21.319 She's actually going to another friend's neighborhood to trick or treat. 50 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:22.879 So this is the first time she's not gonna be 51 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:23.199 with us. 52 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.280 I'm sorry, but that's gotta that's gotta be tough for 53 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:28.360 a dad, right, Like this is this is another sign 54 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:29.400 that she's growing up on you. 55 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:32.560 Yeah, but but you know what they're all going like 56 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:36.039 is the same kind of thing, like characters from the 57 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:37.000 from the Lorax. 58 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:39.719 Okay, nice, So that's what that's. 59 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:40.400 What they're gonna be. 60 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.759 And then my twelve year old daughter, her and some 61 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:48.840 friends did the same costumes at school. She is one 62 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:53.319 of those little aliens from Toy Story. She got a 63 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.400 big old body suit or whatever and the head flips 64 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:57.879 over like a onesie. 65 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:00.520 So she's gonna be an alien from from Toy Story. 66 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:06.560 And then my son two months ago, God ordered got 67 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:11.439 a Cane cost two from the w WE. 68 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:13.599 Like Cain, an undertaker Kane. 69 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:18.639 So he's gonna be Caine nice and that's all. Now, 70 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:21.680 this was two months ago. He asked of me if 71 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:22.840 I would go as. 72 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:25.280 The undertaker so we could beat the Brothers of Destruction. 73 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:29.319 Oh my god, that is perfect. And so with that, 74 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:33.680 I mean, that's oh my gosh, a father son Cain 75 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:37.879 undertaker duo. That's that's perfect. And by the way, thanks 76 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:40.479 to the Peacock Network, my my son's now watching wrestling too, 77 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:42.199 so he may be asking to do that next year. 78 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:45.400 But this year the Moose, the moose Man is a firefighter, 79 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:48.199 and my daughter Maya is gonna be what probably most 80 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:50.360 girls in the world are going to be. Taylor Swift. 81 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:55.800 Well that's the Let me tell you something I love 82 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.080 that I take Nick, I probably take this off, this 83 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:02.479 this holiday off every single year. 84 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:04.159 I love it so much. 85 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:06.520 Because I love how they get into it. 86 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:11.840 I love handing out candy all that stuff. Man, there's nothing, 87 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:14.000 there's nothing cooler than hallowek. 88 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.160 No doubt, no doubt, good vibes. And hey, even if 89 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:17.720 the rain is in the way, we're we'll still make 90 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.319 the most of it. And yeah, I can't believe how 91 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.240 fast October went by, Like the fact that tomorrow's November 92 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:26.240 is is insane to me. But let's switch gears here. 93 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:29.399 I'll start with Kentucky if you can't, because obviously the season, 94 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:31.560 you know, each week it's it's really the same conversation. 95 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.160 They they're they're kind of a mess, and they seem 96 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:37.560 to be getting worse things unraveling for Mark Stoops. But 97 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:39.680 what do you make of the quarterback situation. I mean, 98 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.040 Brock vandergriff as we've discussed, and I thought you've laid 99 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:43.560 it out pretty good the last couple of weeks that 100 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.519 you know, he's kind of cutting his teeth in real time, 101 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:48.120 and that's not ideal when you're playing some of the 102 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.040 best teams in the country, and Kentucky has had a 103 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:51.720 really tough schedule. And even when you're not playing the 104 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:53.680 best teams in the country, when you're getting your first 105 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.639 reps as a starter against SEC defenses, again, you're gonna 106 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:58.800 expect some growing pains. But I don't feel like they're 107 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:02.040 in the position they're in because of his poor quarterback play. 108 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.399 With Gavin Wemset, he gives you a different element. But 109 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.040 I think when when you're trying to get this thing 110 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:09.040 figured out and fixed, I mean, obviously, if Mark Stoops 111 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:10.360 and his staff knew how to fix it, they would 112 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:12.319 have already done it. But I just I think mixed 113 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:14.600 going with two quarterbacks or maybe just leaning more so 114 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:19.160 with Wimsat. I don't think that makes any sense at all. 115 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:22.160 So if you're gonna go the two quarterback route, right, 116 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:25.519 you can't just run it with Wimset every time he 117 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:28.720 comes in like that. The element of surprise isn't there. 118 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:34.399 Everybody already knows what they're gonna do. Davin Wimset, to me, 119 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:37.399 isn't really an accurate passer from what I've been able 120 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:37.839 to see. 121 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:40.480 It wasn't that at Rutgers and he hasn't been that 122 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:40.959 this year. 123 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.879 Yeah, so so then that doesn't give you the element 124 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:45.600 that you need. 125 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:47.240 And his running ability, to be. 126 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:49.319 Quite honest with you, from what I've seen, I'm sure 127 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:53.639 it's good. But because nobody thinks he's actually gonna throw 128 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:56.519 it and they're playing the run, well, that element's really 129 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:57.079 not there. 130 00:05:57.639 --> 00:05:59.800 So my guess I'm. 131 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:01.279 Thinking, and like, what are you what are you doing 132 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.839 at this at this point, like you've gotta you've got 133 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:05.759 to ride. 134 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:08.959 This Vandergrift train. In my opinion, that's what you have 135 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:11.720 to do. If you're if you're there and you're right, 136 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.480 it's it's not all along him. I think a large 137 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:18.399 part of it is on the offensive line, and now 138 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.199 they're beat up up front, which you know, if they 139 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:23.800 were healthy, they weren't the greatest thing in the world anyway, 140 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:27.600 And so now that you have these backups in then 141 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:29.759 it's it's really going off the rails a little bit. 142 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:33.439 But in my opinion, like you got to play Vandergrift 143 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:35.920 and you got to see if he can work some things. 144 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.120 Out, if he could get some boar guys involved, you know, 145 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:41.759 for them, Dame, he has had a nice year, but 146 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:44.360 he ain't gonna be it. Like if you just got. 147 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:47.680 One person that you trust from the ball to that's 148 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:50.240 not gonna beat anybody in the SEC. That's not gonna 149 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:53.319 beat anybody that's halfway decent, Like you have to you 150 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:56.279 have to open up the playbook a little bit. You know, 151 00:06:56.319 --> 00:07:00.839 they're really beat up and running back obviously, but you know, 152 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:03.879 I think they're supposed to get Debbie Subo Corn Bay 153 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:04.600 back this week. 154 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:06.959 Which would be a nice, nice lip some of those 155 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:07.959 freshman backs. 156 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:09.720 That have been pretty good in spurts. 157 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:12.839 But I don't think the play Collens been the best 158 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.040 for them. Like and to be honest with you, like 159 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:17.240 with them being so beat up on the on the 160 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.839 defensive side of the ball, with JJ Weaver out, you know, 161 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:22.120 Max Harrison still out. 162 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:24.439 I think the Eric Jackson's out this week. 163 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:28.160 Like there's a there's a real chance they get uh 164 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:31.000 Tennessee puts up a big number on Saturday Night. 165 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:35.000 But don't you think that? And this, this this year 166 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:37.600 is really different than any year Stoops has had because 167 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:39.360 he's had years where they were struggling and had a 168 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.040 tough time beating a lot of teams, but that was 169 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.519 really early on in his tenure. This is an unusual 170 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.040 year where they're they're really struggling, and you know it's 171 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:47.720 not that they're I mean, I think you can look 172 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:49.680 at what three of their losses and and you know, 173 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:51.279 if you don't show up and you don't win, then 174 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:53.480 you know you're a loser. You don't win, you are 175 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:55.160 at your record says it is. But like the way 176 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.879 they lost to South Carolina, the way unraveled against Florida 177 00:07:58.000 --> 00:07:59.879 and even Auburn last week, Like those aren't teams that 178 00:07:59.920 --> 00:08:01.160 you just look at the score and say, yeah, what 179 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:03.279 are you gonna do? Those teams are so great, So 180 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:06.199 you know, this is a very maybe maybe this is 181 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.480 where it ends. But I feel like more often than not, 182 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:10.920 when Stoops has had his team in a position where 183 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:13.079 it seems as if they're gonna get blown out because 184 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:14.600 of no momentum on their end and they're playing a 185 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.959 really religod team, I feel like that's that's usually when 186 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.600 its teams show up and play. Now again, they could 187 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:22.160 do that and still lose to Tennessee. But I don't know. 188 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:24.360 Maybe I'm reaching here, but I kind of feel like 189 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:27.399 if this isn't an ultimate just ass whooping, which it 190 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:29.319 could be, I mean, I guess it wouldn't be a 191 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.279 big surprise given what's happened in recent weeks with them, 192 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:32.600 but I feel like that would be kind of telling 193 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.200 to kind of where everything is internally with that with 194 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:37.559 that group, because he's not I mean, in recent weeks, 195 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.279 it kind of seems as if these guys. I don't 196 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:41.399 want to call them quitters because I just I feel 197 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:42.679 like I wouldn't be in a position to know if 198 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:45.039 they're truly quitting or not. But something's off with this 199 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:47.799 team in this program with Stoops that that we really 200 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:51.080 haven't seen ever. Seems like yeah, and. 201 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:56.039 And you look, I mean, I picked you're being I 202 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:59.080 think you're being extremely optimistic by thinking that they have 203 00:08:59.200 --> 00:08:59.720 a chance. 204 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.639 To me, can't always optimistic about the Cats. I mean, 205 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:04.559 I'm just being on brain. 206 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:07.799 Yeah, And I think I just think that like, look 207 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:13.759 this thing, you know, really after the highs of them 208 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:17.639 beating Old Miss, this thing's really been headed. 209 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:20.039 Solf pretty at a rapid rate. 210 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:21.919 And it feels like. 211 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:24.600 Them making the the quarterback. 212 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:25.799 It feels like them making that. 213 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:29.120 Quarterback swhich last week, like it felt like that was 214 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:30.720 like a desperation move when like. 215 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.080 There was there's no need. 216 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:34.120 I mean, I'm not saying that you don't need to 217 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:37.000 make some desperation move, but I don't think that was it, 218 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.960 you know what I mean, Like like it just felt 219 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:42.120 like it was like, oh this is Oh they've hit 220 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:42.879 the panic. 221 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:44.440 Button and oh it got worse. 222 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:49.840 So that's for me and then you know, yeah, maybe 223 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:52.039 this is a game or maybe you know this is 224 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.200 like hey, they're rallying the troops. 225 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:55.399 Check out the. 226 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:59.200 Injury report, Like there's there's just nobody left at rally, 227 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:02.679 like the all most of them are hurt or out, 228 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:05.240 you know what I mean. Like I think Jordan's bagels 229 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:07.799 a tight end. I think he's out this week like 230 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:08.320 they just. 231 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:09.440 They got no dudes left. 232 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.240 And and you know, when you don't have a ton 233 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:15.120 of depth to begin with, would you lose like your 234 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.480 real tea guys, that thing goes. 235 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.200 South in a hurry, and I think I think it's 236 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:21.399 schooling south in a hurry. 237 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:22.600 Yeah. 238 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:25.440 And at the court you said it best. When it 239 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:29.159 comes to doing some things that seem desperate, it's it's 240 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.080 desperate times. So doing anything to you know, trying different 241 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:34.200 stuff to see what works because of the situation would 242 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:36.720 make sense. But I feel like, you know, your offense 243 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:40.159 has been really really bad this year at times. I 244 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:42.279 mean in the second half, they don't seem to score anything. 245 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:44.039 I think they score fewer points than anybody in the 246 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:45.960 second half this year. And I feel like if you're 247 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:47.799 going to improve that, you need to utilize your weapons, 248 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:50.080 which clearly Dankey has actually been a bright spot despite 249 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:52.360 the season. Barrian Brown can change a game at any 250 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:54.159 moment with a big play. I feel like you're not 251 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:55.840 gonna be able to utilize those guys really in any 252 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:58.360 way if it's whim set out there, because I mean, 253 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.679 there's really not any any mystery as far as what 254 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:03.720 they're gonna do when he's out there, it's it's it's 255 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:05.399 quite clear that he's going to be out there to 256 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:07.879 run the ball. And when everybody knows that's what's gonna happen, 257 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:09.480 and your offensive line is not as good as they 258 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.679 as they need to be, you know, it's it's not 259 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:14.879 a good recipe. Do you do you think Stoops has 260 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:18.320 I mean, and you would know this more so than 261 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:21.799 than most people. How much involvement does Stoops actually have 262 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:24.639 in the offense? Because I think Butch Hamden, not to 263 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:26.480 say he's not a good play caller, but like to me, 264 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:28.519 that didn't like I feel like with Mark Steups having 265 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:30.759 some momentum and clearly some money, he could have gotten 266 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:33.320 a more proven guy than Butch Hampden. You look at 267 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:36.639 at what Liam Cohen's doing in the NFL. Obviously, uh, 268 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.799 Shannon Dawson, he's gonna be a head coacher soon because 269 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.840 of what he's doing with that Miami offense. I mean, 270 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:45.000 how much of the offensive blame should go on Stoops 271 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.159 because he claims, at least from what I understand, he 272 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.039 doesn't claim to really be super involved in it. But 273 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:51.000 when you watch them play and you look at some 274 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:52.559 of the other things that have happened and seen other 275 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.840 guys succeed that that he moved on from or they 276 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:56.919 moved on from him. It kind of makes it hard 277 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:59.799 to believe that he's not somewhat influencing what's going on offensively. 278 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.440 Well, I mean just just kind of look back at 279 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:09.519 his track record with offensive coordinators. I mean, you know, 280 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:12.720 Shannon Dawson was fired after a year on. 281 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:14.600 The job, like he's going to be a head coach, 282 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:17.080 but Sue's firing often. 283 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.000 And and you know Liam Cohen, you know, left to 284 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.039 go to the Rams on his own, and then you 285 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:29.639 know he brings in Rich Gangrello. Well, Rich Gangrello got 286 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:33.720 fired after a year on the job. Liam Cohen the 287 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:38.480 second time around, he left on his own, like. 288 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:39.879 He was looking to leave. 289 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:44.600 What does that tell you? It's you know, I don't know. 290 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:46.720 I think that's pretty telling, right, Like. 291 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:51.240 You've got guys that are either got fired or a 292 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:54.440 guy that came back a second time because he wanted 293 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:57.559 to come back, and then after a year he wanted 294 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:00.639 to leave because clearly thinks aren't the same. 295 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:02.320 And so. 296 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:07.360 I would say that's that's a pretty pretty telling deal. 297 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:13.559 And so if you are really quality offensive coordinator up there. Man, 298 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:17.440 we're travels in the coaching circles. It just it just does. 299 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:19.360 And do you want do you want to be a 300 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:22.919 part of that action? You know, maybe maybe the answer. 301 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:25.120 Is though for a lot of really good quality offensive 302 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:30.879 ocs out there. So that's what you know, I that's 303 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.120 just be speculating, like if you just look down, like 304 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.960 the history here, man, sometimes the history tells tells a 305 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:39.000 big chunk of the story. 306 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:42.360 And it's and it's really since since day one. I 307 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:43.919 mean not to say they haven't had some success with 308 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.679 offensive guys, but I mean, uh, I think the only 309 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:49.440 the only o C that that that's stuck around there 310 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:52.799 that you know, has moved on. I mean, what it's 311 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:55.000 the coach at West Virginia and Neil Brown. I mean, 312 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:56.679 he was it seemed as if they did, you know, 313 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:59.440 Patrick Toles was there early on in the era, you 314 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.000 know it at that point it kind of felt like, okay, 315 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:05.000 he does trust his OC a little bit. And then 316 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:06.840 from then on it's kind of just been you know, 317 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:09.519 it's not I mean, the overall turnover as far as 318 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:12.240 how many different people have had that position, that alone 319 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:14.799 is is pretty telling in my opinion. All Right, We'll 320 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:15.960 let you go here in just a moment because I 321 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:17.440 know you've got to get to the Halloween festivities. But 322 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:19.240 I do want to get your thoughts on this Louisville team. 323 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:22.399 One to ten, ten being the most surprised, one being 324 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.200 the least surprised. How surprised would you be if Louisville 325 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:28.480 does win it Clemson for the first time ever this weekend? 326 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:37.480 Uh, I'm not gonna say ten. That feels aggressive. I mean, 327 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:39.000 I'd give it up. I'd give it a good eight. 328 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:44.360 More so because of gut. Yeah, I mean i'd say, 329 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:46.480 given the fact they're double digit dogs, that that that 330 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.840 number does. I think most would probably be in that range. 331 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:52.480 But is it more so because Louisville's kind of shown 332 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:54.120 us all year who they are a team that can 333 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:56.240 make some place. They're not a bad team, but they've 334 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.720 been consistent. It really not winning these games this year. 335 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:00.399 To be honest with you, or are you more of 336 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:02.240 a believer in Clemson? I'm sure it's a variety of things, 337 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:02.879 to be honest. 338 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.080 With you, Yeah, it's it's a combination. 339 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.279 To be honest with you, Yes, this Louisville team has 340 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:10.360 been just an absolute roller coaster. You know they can 341 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:12.159 they can do some really nice things. 342 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:13.200 But also, I mean. 343 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:14.320 They struggle at times. 344 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:19.759 This Clemson team outside of I want to say it 345 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:21.639 was the first week, didn't they They got. 346 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:22.679 Destroyed by Georgia. 347 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:24.919 But man, they've done a heck of a job rally 348 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.559 in the troops and getting things going back and in 349 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.879 the right direction, and they've looked pretty impressive. And then 350 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:35.919 Death Valley at ninth Like I was there in sixteen 351 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:42.120 when Louisville women there, and man, that place, that place 352 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:47.000 is loud. It's packed like it is it's something, and 353 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:49.720 and their speakers are really loud there right. 354 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:55.679 That joint at night is legit. And so it's just 355 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.080 it's just all of those kind of factors that that 356 00:15:58.200 --> 00:15:59.200 kind of go into it. 357 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.399 And to be honest with you too, like you know, 358 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:06.399 I talked so much about about Kentucky being beat up 359 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:06.799 a little bit. 360 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:08.080 You know, louis was really beat up. 361 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:10.799 Yeah, you know, like it ain't like there, it ain't 362 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:12.759 like they're at full strength, and you know they're they're. 363 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.200 Pretty banged up too, and Clemson is not the best 364 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:16.799 team to go up against when you're banged up. 365 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:20.639 Yeah, And even when it feels like Clemson has fallen 366 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:22.600 so far, you look and you see that they really 367 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:23.679 haven't fallen that far. 368 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:24.360 Uh. 369 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:26.240 And also even in those years where you feel like 370 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:29.120 they're down, there's they're still not losing many games on 371 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:30.919 their home field. I lied. Last question, we can make 372 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.960 it quick. You've been to many SEC games covering Kentucky 373 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.799 and obviously you've been to cover the Louisville Clemson matchup before. 374 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:39.720 What what's the best atmosphere you've been in for a 375 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:42.759 college football game, whether you're working, whether you're out there 376 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:44.759 just you know, go into a game. What's the best 377 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:45.679 atmosphere you've seen? 378 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.159 Best atmosphere that I've seen. 379 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:58.919 Might be Clemson was pretty darn good, man. Yeah, Clemson 380 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:01.480 were good. Clemson was awesome. Get you know what. 381 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:04.200 You know, what's awesome when when they're good. Because Spurrier 382 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.400 was there at the time. South Carolina, I've. 383 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:11.880 Always heard was it Lee Bright something Bryce Stadium? Yes, 384 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.119 I've heard it's the most underrated atmosphere in the SEC. 385 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:15.440 It was. 386 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.880 It was a it was a night game. It was 387 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:22.880 like eighty like eighty five thousand strong, and they're packed out. 388 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:27.240 They got the sandstorm going. They had Rick Flair the night. 389 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.359 That that I was there covering a game and my man. 390 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:32.759 Did a silhouette to the Titan Tron gave out a 391 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:35.400 WU and eighty five Strong gave a WU back. 392 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.640 That's awesome. I could see where that one. I could 393 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:41.799 see where that one stands out. So I'm sure it'll 394 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:45.079 be rocking on Saturday at Clemson and a lot of 395 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:47.480 louisvill fans seemingly making the trip, which I'm I'm happy 396 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:49.319 to see that. I mean, I don't know what the 397 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:50.640 result is going to be, what they want it to be, 398 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:52.880 but it's clearly the type of trip that if you're 399 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:53.960 a Louis a fan and you want to make a 400 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.319 road trip, you know, you make the arrangements, and even 401 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:57.720