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Enjoy the exploration. Hello and good morning, Happy happy day, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I is there.

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Speaker 1: Please you said it right, man, Congratulations, you may pass.

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Speaker 2: Go Okay, So I'm on Mediterranean? Is that the next time?

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Speaker 1: That's dude. I want to congratulate you on how you

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are expressing your your art in this modern day. I

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just this is so inspiring to me because my wife

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is a former school teacher, so, you know, just getting

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into the imaginations of a wandering generation. You did it, Spencer,

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you did it well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That's very nice. Well.

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Speaker 3: I owe a lot to my wife on this because

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she said one night at dinner, you should do something

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with dogs. I've had dogs in a lot of my work,

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but just in sort of trod on rolls, you never

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saw inside their head and just from you know, when

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my wife said it sometimes in a marriage that you

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get this kind of communication, that's just a vibe. And

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I thought, what about doing like a mystery type series

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from the point of view of the detective's dog.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I was gonna say, that's so creative, because

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I mean, that's one of those situations you were either

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having dinner, driving in the car, or you were sitting

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there wondering what was on TV? What could you watch,

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and your imagination said, right about dog Spencer.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, I don't know it just there's no

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that part is one of the rewards of the job.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of hard work, but when things come

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out of the blue, you know, it's like it's like

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you won the lottery. You didn't do anything and you

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still got something out of it, and that's kind of

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a blessing.

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Speaker 2: And in this one, it was like a kind.

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Speaker 3: Of blessing that had a kind of extended rollout because

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the more I did it, the more I wrote, the

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more I saw what a powerful tool this was really

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showing a lot of out people too but it's as

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long as I stuck, as long as I make Chat

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the dog as canine as possible. So he's not a

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talking dog, he's a narrating dog. And there's a real

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big difference.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that idea, because you know, what you're

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doing is you're putting that voice inside of our noug

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and it's already got a bunch of noise up there.

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And all you're doing with Chet is you're giving us

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that opportunity. Hey, Chet, what's going on? Dude? Tell me

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more about your story? Whoa you got a problem with

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the detective agency?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Please tell me more.

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Speaker 2: Chat?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So that's it, and you and you, your voice

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is absolutely right for the for the response because Chet

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is an optimist, you know he you know it's this.

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Speaker 2: Series, the Chet and Bernie series.

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Speaker 3: It's not it's not a cozy as Stephen King has

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pointed out a couple of times, it's it's not a

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cozy series. It has dark things in it and bad

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things happen. But Chet bounces back to his reset position

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very quickly, and his reset position is one of well,

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joy in life?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you giggle like a child when you created

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the senior Piggy because when I received that on my side,

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I went, of course, and of all things, my wife

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was a big pig fan, so therefore we've got pig

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statues all the way through the house. So I mean,

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I looked up. I said, Lee, You're not going to

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believe this. I said, Spencer is talking about your loving life,

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Senior Piggy Baby.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now look here first of all, Okay, so I

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like other animal characters show up, you never see inside them.

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lives in a world where humans are important, but so

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are lots of other animals. So Senor Piggy is that

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plays a kind of supporting role in cat On a

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Hot Tin Wolf, which is the upcoming judden Burny and

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he Okay. As to the question about giggling, I could

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never admit that I make myself laugh. That would be

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very undignified. So my answer is going to be an

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official no.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Spencer Quinn coming

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up next. The name of the book kat On a

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Hot Tin woof Spencer Quinn is back as a writer,

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though only because I've done it for so many years.

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You gotta love those moments though, when an idea comes

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to you and you just kind of just smirk it

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off then and just you know, because you know, you

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just receive something, it's like, oh, I can't wait to

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let this grow.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean totally. I mean that is just that's

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the blessing of it. It's it's not the easiest career

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in many ways because it's a it's a it's a

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well you know, it's like it it's a lonely kind

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you know, it's just you and you. There's no there's

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no one else on the team. Really not when it

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comes to the actual writing. You know, the hard work

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of writing. I mean I've written almost fifty novels now

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and you think, well, oh it gets easier, Well, well

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it doesn't. Okay, by this time, unless I was a

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complete blockhead, I'd have lots of techniques. So I do

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have lots of technique, but you have to still the

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key is entering that imaginative space and nourishing it without

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pushing too hard.

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Speaker 2: So you know, there's it takes a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of work to learn how to use your own mind.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, but you know, one of the things

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that I can really relate with as an adult. Is

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that my my Jazzy is with me even as we speak.

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She's always with me all the time. And just and

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before I got your book, she and I were on

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a murder case and I thought, oh my god, Chet

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is on one too, And it's because we wanted to

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know who murdered the possum inside this forest in South Charlotte. Dude,

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we went on a case and all of a sudden,

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you're writing about it with Chet, and I'm going, You've

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got to be kidding me. And so it just makes

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me fall in love with a story even more.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it's great, Okay, So I think I'm guessing.

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I don't know for a fact, but I think, well, look,

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I think there are seventy million dogs plus in America

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right now in the United States, so there are a

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lot of people who are dog people, and I think

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the series appeals to him.

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Speaker 2: And of course Dottie, our dog, Dottie.

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Speaker 3: She is always in the office with me, usually under

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my desk, and she's a ninety plus pounder, so there's

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really no room for my seat under the desk with her.

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So a lot of my writing has actually done at

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a weird angle to the keyboard.

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Speaker 2: I think a symbolic of the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Actually, oh god, if you were to see this studio

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or she is currently positioned, there's no way I am

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going to move inside this studio unless she knows it,

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because I'm her puppy. She's not my puppy. I'm her puppy.

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Do you feel the same way with dot Oh?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Dottie runs the show and she sends out kind of

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you know, unspoken messages, but you know, very quickly we

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learn to read what it is she wants.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: So now do you take it to videos? Are you

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going to Hulu and you just can't talk about it?

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Are you going to Netflix? Because when you've got Chet

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the Dog, I'm thinking about Garrick across the street, who's

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a five year old boy who I know would love

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a story just like this. And now we want something tangible.

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I want to hold Chet the Dog. I want to

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talk to Chet the Dog.

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Speaker 3: All I can say is there have been in our feelers,

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but nothing has come to fruition yet. I've learned in

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my career that all I can control is what's the

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between the two covers.

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Speaker 2: Of the book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you you know I have had a

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book I wrote called The Fan that was made into

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a movie where Robert de Niro played the fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had well.

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Speaker 3: It was a book that took place in the world

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of professional baseball with an overzealous fan. But I controlled

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what was in the book. The movie was totally out

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of my hands, and I learned a very very important

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lesson there. I'm not objecting to the fact that they

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did it at all. It's a great thing. But all

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you can control is your original book. After that, it's

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out in the world and you can't you know, you

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don't have it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Where can people go to find out more about

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everything that you're doing? Because we need these books right

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now in the hands. I mean physical books. I mean

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I love ebooks, I love them, but there's something about

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a physical book being in your hands making that eye connection.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Chett and Burney series is for sale and

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all retail outlets from you know, Amazon and BNN to

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lots of independence and you know, when I go on

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book tours, I hit a lot of independence in the

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country and it's one of the greatest things. We have

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just so many independent bookstores so that yeah, you can

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get and so find out about it. You can go

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to chatthdog dot com and there's a whole website and

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you'll see all the books there.

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Speaker 1: Dude, you got to come back to this show anytime

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in the future. If def Leppard can come on here

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nine different times. Okay, Spencer's got his first. We need

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eight more times from Spencer and more.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to hear me sing, that's all.

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Speaker 1: Well, you'd be brilliant today, Okay, sir.

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Speaker 2: You too. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.