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Chris Paul returning to the Clippers. I am Chuck Blckler,

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joined by Adam Haslin, William Updyke, and a guy constantly

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need lawyers justin Rousseau. We're talking Chris Paul being.

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Speaker 2: He had a name if you need a lawyer for that,

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because we call him Russeau.

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Speaker 1: There we go. We're talking Chris Paul back with the Clippers.

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Before we get into the x's and o's of it

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and everything, this was kind of telegraphed we were all

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expecting this news at some point this week. I think,

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nostalgia wise, how are we feeling, because that's I feel

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phenomenal in that sense. Justin mister Rousseau will start with you,

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just strictly nostalgiaise how we feel?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why not? Why shouldn't you feel great?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: I get it, people want a younger team. Let's get

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the old guy vibes. You know, like third quarter of

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a tight game, Chris Paul just randomly could look at like,

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I don't even know who's even a young guy left

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on the team. Trent and Flowers could be sitting there

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and Chris Paul could just straight up just tell them, hey, man,

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I've seen some shit and like, you know that kind

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of vibe.

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Speaker 2: Man, he Hey, look, when you have the lengthy career

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of Chris Paul, You've been in a few literal wars.

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Speaker 3: You've yelled at your center for not going up with

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a putback. You've had to flop off in Game seven

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against James Harden in the bubble. You know, You've You've

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done some things. You've been murdered by a massive three

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to one collapse a couple of times. I guess and

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you know you've seen some ship's kind of like a

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war vet. Let him come home and tell some stories.

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Speaker 1: Man, Thank you for that incredibly morbid take on Chris

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Pall returning to the Clippers like a war vet to

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share some horrifying stories with the young. They're not hor

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like you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're character building, you know.

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Speaker 2: The tale.

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Speaker 4: The real question is who's he given the watch to

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carrying on it?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Who's getting Matt wash that uncomfortable piece of metal?

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Speaker 1: Who's getting it? Will? Were you like David Hang? We're

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also live at YouTube dot collumpish at Clipper's podcast. In

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the fatal audio later, Will did you also cry when

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you woke up this morning? In sealther news every morning?

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Speaker 4: But that's that's little news.

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Speaker 1: In terms of joy.

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Speaker 3: This time Will cries because he's happy he made it

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another day at the world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, every day is a mystery. Every day's bless uh No,

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I mean I was excited, like I you know, I

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feel like it's it's nice to have some context and

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some time past because even though things ended like amicably

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between the teams, I I, you know, things didn't feel

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right and I think Chris Paul is the type of

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player who's sort of like annoyances and eccentricities are mags

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so magnified when he plays uh for another team that

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is not yours, then I think was kind of difficult.

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There were some regular season games of truly no consequence

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to anyone but me against the Rockets that were particularly frustrating.

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But it's it's good to see him back, and I

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you know, I'm glad that he's beat his finals addiction,

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and you know, who knows. Who knows if he'll relapse

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this season? Who knows?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can we just talk about for a second. He

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got blindsided? He got blindsided by Pat Bev and still

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came back to the Clippers. What a legend? Actually true?

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Speaker 1: Adam, you're nostalgic feelings for Chris Paul returning?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel good about this, especially because he's still good, Like,

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he's still very good. He still helps you win. If

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it was just the nostalgia, I'd probably get over it

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pretty quickly. But he can help this team, and I

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think that's the biggest thing here. But yeah, the nostalgia

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part of it, I don't know. I'm thinking of the

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seaman call when he hit the shot over Tim Duncan

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in Game seven. God bless Chris Ball. I mean that stuff.

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I play it all the time in Clippers rewind whenever

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they're going up against him now as an opponent, but

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now I'll be back with them. I love it. I'm

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here for it. I think, you know, for the most part, uh,

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all wounds heel and if anybody was upset because he

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was the enemy and it's sports, it's time to get

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over that and welcome and welcome him back with open arms.

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It's time Joseph Ryan Award included wow Ward family man.

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The kids have softened his cold heart, so he should

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welcome GRIZZYB three back.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine that first ovation he gets, like that

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opening night when he gets announced, like in like the

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like you know, the full introduction for every player, and

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like I don't think it's cheesy to say the arena

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that he helped build.

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Speaker 1: And a large part of their success to get yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like I know we've kind of joked over the over

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the years, like oh so and so helped build this arena.

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That guy actually helped build it, maybe not construction wise,

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but he was the reason that actually was able to

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Speaker 1: Of course, you don't mean literally. Thank you for clarifying that.

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Speaker 3: He could have been there. We don't know what he

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Speaker 1: You know, Adam, I like that you mentioned that he's good,

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which helps this whole thing. It does. We've had.

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Speaker 3: Chris notoriously not shitty at basketball.

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Speaker 1: Yes, what he brings to the Clippers team, Adam, you

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were tweeting out the mid range numbers the Lob the

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Jam had a very funny tweet that was, what do

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you trust more Chris Paul mid range? RUSS layup?

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Speaker 2: Chris Paul midrange might technically be more efficient at this point.

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I don't know. Yeah, I don't look those RUSS numbers.

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Speaker 1: And I guess on the Yeah, that's what it is.

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He can hit the three, And I think people were

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worried about the fit, right, everyone including myself. I said

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I would chug a bottle of whiskey if he was

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brought on the team in any kind of way, that

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he was going to start with James Harden. But all

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the wordedge, we gotta feel good, right, Lawrence Frank said.

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Speaker 2: A few people about to relapse.

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Speaker 1: Hung Yeah, hey, it's a dark pod. I'm surprised that

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it took this turn so early too. Lawrence Frank said

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today he's joining us as a reserve point guard and

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it's excited to fill whatever role. Tylo, that's true. It's

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an A plus move with that feeling, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when Rousseau you were on the call

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with him talking about the Bradley Beule signing and he expressed,

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you know what it means, whoever the next guy is

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that signs with the Clippers, And to me, that kind

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of gave a blueprint of what they're looking for and

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the role that Chris or whoever it was going to be.

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to be. Chris had to accept, and he's buying in

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and he's back home and he understands it's a reserve role.

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ambiguity about roles with guys they're bringing in right now,

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and he talked about learning from their mistakes in the

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past with that, and it looks really clear and direct

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with what they're expecting at a Chris and what he

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think, well, first off, hats off the law

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Mary for just straight up asking him because like, well, no,

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like as someone once told me, if you want a

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direct answer, just asked a direct question, and that was

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a very direct question, got a very direct answer, which

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kind of also gave it away that it was happening,

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just based on the fact that, like, of course we're

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looking at Chris Paul, like, you know, why wouldn't we

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kind of thing, and uh, you know, I I thought

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it was interesting that when Shaums did his little two

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minute hit that went out, he said that Chris understands

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that his role this is a direct quote, understands his

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role could fluctuate from night to night. He might not

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play on some nights. So I think it's like there's

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no ambiguity over what Chris Paul is. Like he's coming

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here to be a reserve guarden, and on some nights

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if James Harden doesn't play, he could possibly spot right

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Speaker 1: The one night that James Harden doesn't play or the

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three nights based only listen.

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Speaker 3: I think they might make James Harden not play sometimes

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just to like save him from himself. That guy plays.

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I know, there's like this like this notion that he

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just is like this injury prone player. He gets banged

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up a lot, He plays through a lot though, and

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even sometimes to the detriment of himself and maybe the team.

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But like that's just who he is, and sometimes they're

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gonna have to save him from himself. It's what they

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did to Kawhi at times. So I mean, I guess

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there's like, without going too far down the road, it

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makes you wonder, like, well, they're gonna give James some

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back to backs off, Like it's a possibility now to me.

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Speaker 2: The only no, I was gonna say to me, the

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only way you can reach the highest ceiling with this

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team is if you keep everybody fresh enough throughout the

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regular season so that going in they still have a

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full tank in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would say, well, what do you think

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over under games that James Harden doesn't play next year?

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Played seventy nine last year.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think he saw so at like seventy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's not dipping underneath that threshold.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know his playoff struggles, Like he has

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had the hamstring thing in some health stuff, but it's

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also been fully healthy, so it's not you know, it's

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not like keeping him on isis like the secret that

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they haven't thought of in the James Harden playoff trajectory.

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Speaker 1: Wait, why do they just rest them more? This question

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from Meme Double seven was another kind of common not

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dis like of the trade, but just something that adds to,

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you know, a new wrinkle to maybe think about. Any

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concerned about the offensive speed against younger teams. We already

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play a very deliberate brand of basketball. I can't remember

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who tweeted it, but they said the point guard play

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will be the most deliberate in all of the league,

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which is true, which is good. Any concerned about the

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offensive speed.

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Speaker 2: Of course, there's some I think there there's obvious weaknesses

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that are all kind of centered around the age issue,

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and one of them is lack of rim pressure. I

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think that could be one. Rousseau wrote a great article

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about Bradley Beal, which maybe Lawrence Frank was referencing when

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he was talking about all the handoffs and how he

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was number one in points per possession off of handoffs

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this last season. Bradley Beal, well, Bradley Bual leans into

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that more and gets downhill on some of those handoffs.

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Can he make up for some of the loss of

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Norm Palell and just add a little bit more pop

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like where where his health is at is going to

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determine a lot of that. But I think that is,

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you know, a little bit of a hole still missing

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on this team. Everybody has flaws, but just rim pressure.

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just dumping into him, but I'm talking about attacking from

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the perimeter and slashing and getting to the hoop. Yeah,

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but real, real quick.

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Speaker 3: If you want any idea that people do read your articles,

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just listen to like the little between the line shit

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that gets set at times. Because in Laurence Frank's presser

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about Bradley Beal, he mentioned something about how we've seen

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the analytics, we've seen the numbers, we've seen the same

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tape that everyone else the Seed about his defense, and

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I went, oh, yeah, I did kind of rite about that.

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Speaker 1: So we've seen the sub stack pieces staring directly at you. Oh,

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we have a quoi. You have a super chat from

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the sports Carewer. Thank you. If you ever want to

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give us a super chat, we won't say no, not

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giving us much chance our take. Someone then said, Kendrick

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Perkins is a clown. Hey, the chat does what it wants, Uh,

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they don't ever really give us a very chance because

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last time they did, they all got burned. So I

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don't think I haven't.

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Speaker 4: Seen anybody like dumping outside of the Kendrick Perkins thing,

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So correct me if I'm wrong, But I haven't seen

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anybody dumping on this Clippers offseason. I feel like most

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people have been pretty complimentary of what they were able

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to do and how they were able to maneuver the cap.

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I think if you're looking at, you know, the competition

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in the West, I mean, like, what what do you

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want to do?

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's it's.

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Speaker 4: A tough road to hoe. It's really tough to see

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this team, even if things click well and everything is

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healthy and everyone is healthy, like this team being able

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to win sixteen playoff games seems like an insurmountable task.

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Speaker 2: WHOA perfectly? WHOA are you? It's our year to it's

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not our year?

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Speaker 4: That was last year.

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Speaker 2: Pal, That's what I'm saying. You're going from one to

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the other extreme.

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Speaker 3: That uh, that comment you threw up made me just

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want to start calling Chris Paul Yes to Toyota Corolla.

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Speaker 1: I Q he's old and can't play as many minutes,

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But who passes up to Toyota Corolla three hundred thousand

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miles for one hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys remember the old Toyota commercial jingle I

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love what you do for me Toyota Chris Paul and

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the guy like jumps in the air and freezes it

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at the end. Really corny.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, well, so it's not our year? Wait, yeah,

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because that feels like more of a bomb show.

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Speaker 3: TVD resisting the urge to say we're so back and

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it's so all exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the age thing is real. But it's like, I

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love this is a team.

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Speaker 4: That's like frisky. It's like, oh when they get to the playoffs,

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like they can be frisky, like depending on seating and

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like depending on the path. Like, No, this is not

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a team that I could on with a straight face

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outright say they can win sixteen playoff games.

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Speaker 3: I thought when you said they were frisky, I just

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thought you met like they get some bring I see

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hot on their joints, you know, just.

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Speaker 1: Quite literally what might happen at some point. Uh yeah, well,

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I like I think the reaction to like, for the

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most part, people like even after that, you know, they

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added we got Collins, they did the Lopez thing, and

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now it's like everyone's like, oh, we can have home

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court advantage. It feels like that's and then once it

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gets to the playoff because the West is crazy, I

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think it says more about the West than the Clippers

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being not good enough for something like That's how I

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see the Clippers changes because the Nuggets got better, just

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a pain in the ass. Okay, see stayed exactly the same.

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So it's like they get home court at into it.

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I would be a static with the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Are you into that?

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Speaker 3: Are you into that? If they get home court into it.

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Speaker 1: Rissa has got to get out of here. Thank you

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so much for taking the time. But right, isn't it, Adam,

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isn't it? Doesn't it feel like we're like the West

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is so good. If this team was in the East,

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people would be much higher on that clear path.

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Speaker 2: I take what Oil is saying. He's not wrong. It's

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hard to think of a team this old making it

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four rounds and winning it all, especially based upon the

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last two teams that we just saw. But I don't

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think it's totally out of the question either. It just

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has to be them getting by in their depth in

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the regular season. Getting a top four seed at worst

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or the fourth seed. You have home court in the

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first round, and you put a team away in the

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first round. I think that's kind of what it has

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to be, which is asking a lot to your point

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in the Western Conference because of matchups and how close

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it could be. But I I think on paper they're

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the fourth best team in the Western Conference right now,

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I feel comfortable saying yeah, yeah, and fourth.

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Speaker 4: I don't haggle that just seeing a long playoff run.

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But again I haven't even seen it on the court, so,

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like you know, my opinions could change. But like right now,

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with this on paper team, the paper Tiger Clippers, uh six,

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it's looking a little hard for that one to cross.

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Speaker 3: The finish line.

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Speaker 2: My biggest concern is they don't get a long span

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of good health in the regular season to a keep

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themselves fresh for the playoffs and be build up enough

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continuity with the guys you are going to have to

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lean on in a playoff series or are you gonna

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say justin.

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Speaker 3: They've been if you go off players who have gotten

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like actual rotation minutes. They've been the oldest team in

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the NBA for each of the last three seasons, so

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why not make it far?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I I yeah, maybe the age

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can play a factor as you get towards the end

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of the season and guys are tired or whatever, and

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in a playoff series that can be worn down easier.

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I also just kind of don't care because no, like

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it sounds weird, but like to fail in the playoffs,

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you have to get to the playoffs, okay, And I

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feel like this team is I feel like this team

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is better suited to get to the playoffs and what

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their possible alternatives were.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, better team this starting this season than started last season, I.

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Speaker 3: Would say, in terms of talent health now and health,

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and in terms of tom fit and function, we still

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have to see, like obviously you need to see how

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guys actually do fit on the court. Like we can

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sit here and say, well, they have all this talent,

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but it might not matter five healthy players maybe by

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one point the season, you know. But like I don't know,

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I I don't really concern myself with, oh, can this

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team win a title today? Can they win the title,

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you know, be champions a year from now? I don't

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really look at that.

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Speaker 4: And only yeah, that's an exercise and futility.

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Speaker 3: But also like how much has changed that we've seen

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in the NBA over the last several seasons before from

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like this date to you get to the trade deadline

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and then you see like all these guys get moved.

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You see players you know injured like it happened. So

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I don't know. I think their talent is really good.

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I got to see it on the court obviously, But

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in terms of where they're ranking or hierarchy in the

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West is I think fourth is fine. I like, like,

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I do you need to be higher than fourth at

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this point in the West? I mean, yeah, it'd be

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great to be second or obviously first, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're two wins short last season of being second

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in the West, and things could be that tight again

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where it's going to be ultra competitive down the stretch.

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Even if you think you're banking some wins or doing

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well early in the season, it's still going to be

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really close. So when I say they could be fourth

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or the fourth best team, it looks like on paper

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in the West, that doesn't mean you can't end up

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being two or three, uh standings wise by the end

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of the season. I just think okay See because of

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their youth, likely going to win sixty games again. They

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probably are slotted in as being the number one seed.

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As long as they don't have a major injury.

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Speaker 1: Houston's gonna be really good.

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Speaker 2: Houston's gonna be good. They were relying on an older

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Kevin Durant who played sixty games this last year. True.

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Speaker 1: We got another question from sports grew if Indy pushed

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okay See to the limit, why couldn't this team we

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did push the team that pushed okay See to the limit,

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to the limit, to the limit? Property and one horrific

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Someone mentioned that all wounds healed, that Alley Oop is

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not going to heal for me. Uh so, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Clippers twenty five twenty six pushes the the limit one

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last time, the limit.

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Speaker 1: CP three and hine and you're going to get their

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first rings, I hope.

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Speaker 3: So that would be kind of incredible act, like when

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you consider them.

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Speaker 1: So why bringing the Clippers their first ship? Like it

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would be one of the most absurd championships story wise.

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I don't want to get like that, Bill Simmons, Yeah, that.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get too far like down the

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road of like, oh my God, like imagine the title,

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But just for one brief sec I just want to

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mention if they won the title, I could not imagine

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if it's a Zubo's reaction. You would weep because because

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I've talked to this man after they've been eliminated, like

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over the years, and every time it's like, which is

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more than fair? Obviously he's like not to spond it,

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but just like like you can see it on him,

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and it's like, man, like, this is the longest tenured

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Clipper now and if he wins, especially.

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Speaker 2: Like are you the one he told a couple of

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years ago Clippers can't have nice things.

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Speaker 3: I honestly don't remember I've been so.

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Speaker 4: You talked a little bit about fit, and obviously that's

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at the forefront with Chris Paul here. I think a

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lot of times, like throughout the two and three era,

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the Clippers have had a lot of death, Like they

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went from a really like wing heavy, wingstop forward team

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to being crazy guard heavy, and I think at different

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points there's been a lot of death like is this

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the most well balanced though the roster has been in

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terms of like actual versatility and optionality at at but

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still having like actual positional players, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Before I answer that, I just want to say, how

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pumped as Chris Paul to finally have his small forward

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on the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: True, yeah, no, on they took him to it was

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forty forward.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, and he still got another guy that could jump

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and duck out of power forward. You know. No, But

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to answer your question, I do think it could be.

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Obviously you do need to see it. I still also

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kind of go back to like that first year where

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it was those it was Kawhi and PG, but then

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like you had Pat Bev, but then you also had

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Lou and Trez, you had Zuo, You they get Marcus

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who was really good for them, and you have like

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all these guys who fit in around and it was

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really good. Now I am curious to see what happens

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this year, But I could see the argument that if

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you don't look at the age of it compared to

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like what that roster was like, Cause if you compare

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the ages across, obviously it's as difference there.

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Speaker 1: But.

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Speaker 3: With any roster there really would be. But but this team,

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it's the best point guard they'll obviously have. Of course,

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Kawhi is still really freaking good man like you're still

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really like you still. I think people forget he's still

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really good at basketball. Not to remind some people every

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now and then, but Zoo's better than he was. Bench

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bigger than if you want to compare some say, if

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you want to compare it, like even go position by position,

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there is a bench big like conversation that could be

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had between Lopez and Trees where MHM Brook has more

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utility in terms of line up variations. But I don't

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also want to discount.

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Speaker 1: How incredible it was.

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Speaker 3: Disgusting. They will never the the Clippers could play the

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next one hundred years of ballsetball, they'll never have a

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bench pick and roll to them.

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Speaker 1: Ever, literally does that? Never have a next guy get

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a thirty point triple double like the Williams did against Chicago?

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Speaker 3: Is that? What was that? The steals?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. That was when they were

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stuck in the snow before the game. Oh yeah he

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did make it to practice or whatever. Yeah, and he's like, all,

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I have a thirty poin triple though, All right, real quick?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah he had. He had thirty and thirty points

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and ten steals against the Utah Jazz in twenty eighteen

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that's what.

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Speaker 1: All right, we have some questions about the starting lineup

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we're going to talk about after this quick audio break.

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We're doing a Joseph I Award Patton did twenty six

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minute segment. We're coming back with the audio to answer

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some questions about the starting lineup and three T one.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in to Cliffs and Dip. We're talking,

479
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of course, to the Chris Paul acquisition. Taking your questions

480
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live over on YouTube dot com Slash at Clippers podcast.

481
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Uh so, let's get right into it is. He wants

482
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to know, would you rather Colin start so kawhi is

483
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that the three? Or Beal starts so James has a

484
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,799
ball handler? Both starting together would ruin our perimeter? D

485
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,720
till the bench comes in, gentlemen, your thoughts.

486
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Speaker 1: I think I have some horrible news for his What

487
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,680
do you got that Collins will start? Uh and Beal

488
00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:15,559
will also start?

489
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Speaker 2: I think Beale for sure is starting. Collins is the

490
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,960
only slight question mark Yeah, but I think he probably

491
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still does. I would lean that way.

492
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Speaker 1: The shooting is to me, the shooting feels too good

493
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to pass up for that starting lineup. We have comparable

494
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:31,880
shooting one through four.

495
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Speaker 4: I've been really surprised, like when I've seen like some

496
00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:39,160
other analysts talking about, especially since the Beal acquisition, like

497
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him coming off the bench, And I definitely see the logic,

498
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but I would be shocked if like a starting role

499
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wasn't part of the conversation for him to even come

500
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here at like at the price discount.

501
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Speaker 2: It as the agent said it. I mean, that's all like.

502
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Speaker 3: I would be.

503
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Speaker 4: I would be absolutely shocked if Bradley Beal was not

504
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in the starting backcourt I'm opening for the Clippers.

505
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,799
Speaker 1: That would be stunted, And that would be I would

506
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:06,359
be a little flabbergast that if John Collins.

507
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: Wasn't they're both starting. John Collins making twenty six million dollars.

508
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,039
He's not like like I don't mean to like reduce

509
00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:18,440
it to that, but like he's making twenty six million dollars.

510
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:20,440
You're not having a twenty six million dollar guy be

511
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,920
your six man or your bench player. Now, okay, okay.

512
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,680
Over the season, maybe they go through lineup variations where

513
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,160
he doesn't start some nights, John Collins is a starting

514
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,960
power for in the league. John Collins is starting opening night.

515
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,759
If John Collins doesn't start for any reasons other than injury.

516
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
God willing knock on Wood that he doesn't get injured.

517
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John Collins is starting. Yeah, right, they're both starting.

518
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Speaker 2: I think they need to at least try that lineup

519
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,720
because it has the most upside potential if those guys,

520
00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,279
those two in particular, buy in defensively just a little

521
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,000
bit or show more competence on that end than they

522
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,720
have in past years. And I think they can, because

523
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:10,279
then you're talking about, well, the offensive juggernaut they could

524
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:14,160
be with those two, and then if they're just solid defensively,

525
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now you really have something special. I have my concerns

526
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,839
that they're not going to have a real drop off

527
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,160
on the defensive end, but I think you at least

528
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,119
have to give it a shot.

529
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Speaker 3: Also, I wrote this the other day even after my

530
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,920
Bradley Beal piece, and to be perfectly honest, I was

531
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kind of scathing in what I wrote about.

532
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Speaker 1: Yes, dude, I was very hell yeah, so like.

533
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Speaker 3: Like but at the end, but at the same time,

534
00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:45,680
I do understand why they went and got them. They

535
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,200
need the offensive help. And I even wrote this on

536
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Twitter and also on Blue Sky. It also comes down

537
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:55,960
to I do think we've also overvalued defense to a

538
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,839
large degree, not we this group, but like the basketball

539
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:07,480
can in general, has overvalued defensive type players. When you

540
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,079
look at the playoffs every year and you see two things.

541
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,759
Defensive role players quite often get played off the floor

542
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:18,880
offensively because defenses don't trust them or respect them whatsoever.

543
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,920
And secondly, even teams with average level defenses in the

544
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,559
regular season scale up defensively on the playoffs when their

545
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,759
best players get more minutes and the intensity of games

546
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:37,240
go up. So maybe the pathway for the Clippers isn't

547
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:40,640
let's have a top five defense at a top fifteen offense.

548
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,279
It's what if we got our offense, which was really

549
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,039
good when Kawhi was back in the beginning of January.

550
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,160
From then on, what if we get our offense to

551
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,319
be a top five offense and we have a maybe

552
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,000
top ten but probably top fifteen defense, and then when

553
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,720
the postseason comes around, all right, guys, now you just

554
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:03,559
scare ail up and I think that could be it.

555
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680
That is an incredible cat right there. That cat is

556
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:08,039
locked right in.

557
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,319
Speaker 2: This cat is on the attack with me and has

558
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,680
been the entire shows so far.

559
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:18,319
Speaker 3: Is that is that her bed? Right?

560
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little cat bed that's incredible.

561
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:22,559
Speaker 3: Look at this.

562
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: Oh, she's about eight months.

563
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: Tuca likes the Chris paulm move. We respect, we respect,

564
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,799
and I have my dog who's bringing the.

565
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:35,359
Speaker 2: Cat is on the offensive and maybe agreeing with the

566
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:38,400
point of the Clippers having Beal and Sean Collins to

567
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,720
start games.

568
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: But I also think that like, yes, the Bradley Beal

569
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:48,119
defense has not been good. But sorry, I had to

570
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,839
push the dog away. That was great. Yeah, I pushed

571
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,559
his ass. Okay, he's in my face. He needs to relax.

572
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,599
Bradley Bial's dose the last couple of years was not good,

573
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:05,680
and and yes, he has a track record of not

574
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,319
being a very good defender. However, this is what I

575
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:11,680
did put in However, this is what I did put

576
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,920
in my piece, which is this is probably the lowest

577
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,079
run he's been on offensively on a team since he's

578
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:22,799
been in the NBA. He's maybe maybe the fourth option offensively,

579
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,519
and if if he is that fourth option, and he's

580
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:29,880
not being asked to do as much on ball stuff,

581
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:32,079
which is what I suspect that they're gonna do, is

582
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:36,400
they're not gonna seed possession. They're not gonna seed more

583
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:40,119
James and Kawhi possessions to Brad because the Kawhi and

584
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,880
James stuff is so good already that and the Zoo

585
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,200
stuff has been great, that maybe Brad is the fourth

586
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:50,279
guy sometimes the fit depending on John Collins and whatever else,

587
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:54,160
that maybe it leaves him more energy on defense. There's

588
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,480
always that possibility. Does that sound likely? Probably not, But

589
00:31:57,559 --> 00:31:59,680
at the same time, it's not out of the realm

590
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,279
of past ability that this is a thing that they've

591
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:02,559
looked at and talking about.

592
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: And I think it's also like to your point, justin

593
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,680
like in the playoffs different like maybe we're not going

594
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,480
to see a completely like a revamped regular season defensive approach,

595
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,680
I still do expect to see improvements with this being

596
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,319
the lowest amount of ball handling he's gonna have to

597
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,920
have done, and I don't know how long, like he's

598
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,200
just not he's not gonna have to be a point

599
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,559
guard at all. But I would spend like suspecting the

600
00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:29,000
playoffs that he's able to rash it up more even

601
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,000
if we're not seeing it on a you know, eighty

602
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:32,440
two game basis.

603
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: If I can actually pull it up in my manifesto

604
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,119
of Bradley Beal, I think I said, since the twenty

605
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,000
seventeen eighteen season was like the last time he wasn't

606
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:44,640
like a high ranking in terms of usage and like

607
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:46,759
on ball percentage, was probably the last time that he

608
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:49,880
wasn't like all the way towards the top of the

609
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,319
percentile mix. So look, if they get him down to

610
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,799
the twenty seventeen eighteen level or excuse me, twenty sixteen seventeen,

611
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:59,559
that's what it was. I don't think it's a bad thing.

612
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,039
Like he has been incredible on handoffs. He's a good

613
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:06,559
solid pick and roll player. He's great attacking closeouts if

614
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,400
he's spotting up and coming off handoffs as well and

615
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,960
using that to either get to the rim, which he's

616
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,039
been really good at around the rim, primarily as a scorer,

617
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:17,279
but also as a passer. I put in the piece

618
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:20,799
that he's passed more last year on drives than Norman

619
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:23,000
Powell did, and he finished at a higher rate as well.

620
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:26,039
So that's an uptick when when you look at also

621
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:28,240
his shooting, which while not to the level that Norman

622
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,519
Powell has been the last couple of years, it's still

623
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:34,640
been really good, like forty plus on catch and shoot

624
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:40,799
threes and spotted. Yeah, and that was also one of

625
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,440
the things I wrote, is we can look at Bradley

626
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,680
Beal's numbers and be like, oh, he only averaged like

627
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,119
seventeen points and all this stuff, and yeah, he didn't

628
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,839
have a good defensive time in Phoenix, and then you

629
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:54,039
look at his efficiency and it's like Bradley Beal was bad,

630
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,839
yet Bradley Beal was still very highly efficient as a

631
00:33:56,839 --> 00:33:59,920
basketball player, which the Clippers need out of their off

632
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,200
defensive structure. They need more variation, tylu, it sounds like

633
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,680
it's gonna introduce a little bit more variation, especially handoff.

634
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:09,800
So I don't know, I think people have a reason

635
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,800
to be excited about the Bradley Beal stuff, even if

636
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:14,199
you know, I'm not sold on the defensive end of

637
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,239
the floor. But at the end of the day, if

638
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,480
you scale him back offensively, maybe the defensive end of

639
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,559
the floor, you know, has a nice little upswing. And

640
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,679
we're back here in eight months or even less talking

641
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,000
about how Bradley Beal's been had a really good defensive year.

642
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 2: I get real concerns about just letting go of an

643
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,119
identity you finally re established with what they did last

644
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:39,119
year defensively. But I do think it's fair to give

645
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,159
this group a shot with these two new guys and

646
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,599
see what they can do defensively, because you could be

647
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,079
so potent on the offensive end. If they're just solid,

648
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,440
that could be really special. But what I don't want

649
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,800
to see is more on Kawhi Leonard's plate on the

650
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,639
perimeter having a guard. That just to me, Now, what's

651
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,960
the point you brought in John Collins to get him

652
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,679
off the four spot, But he's actually running more miles

653
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,960
per game because you don't have a real point of

654
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,440
attack defender in the starting unit. That concerns me. But

655
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:12,880
I get that Radley Beal is starting and John Collins

656
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,119
is likely starting, and I think you have to try

657
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:17,400
that five man unit at the beginning of the season

658
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:19,000
before you make any adjustments.

659
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting too, I'm going to cut you off. Well,

660
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,159
I'm sorry. If you look in terms of like their

661
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:28,159
top eight players in minutes last year, they had eight

662
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:31,599
players play at least a thousand minutes. The two who

663
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:34,440
aren't back are Norman Powell, an offensive first guy, and

664
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:38,559
a Mere Coffee an offensive first guy, and they had

665
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,400
they need to replace the shooting that those two gave

666
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:44,039
because whatever people want to say about Norm and a

667
00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:47,039
mer those guys were still forty percent plus three point

668
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,719
shooters and very good spot up guys, very good attacking

669
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,360
downhill to the rim a mirror was great in transition,

670
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,719
which is an area that they obviously are trying to

671
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,920
get better, and it's still so on the surface, we

672
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,800
can say here and say it looks like they're changing

673
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,159
their identity from last year, but like, I don't know

674
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:10,480
if they really have. They've added pieces, but I don't

675
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,360
really think they've taken away parts of their identity in

676
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,039
terms of like the defensive end of the floor. They

677
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:18,079
still have those guys, So I'm they're just gonna be

678
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,760
repurposed into different roles. Now. Does that lead to a

679
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,199
change of identity? It could. I'm just interesting to see

680
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:29,639
kind of where they go from here from a structure

681
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,760
standpoint for guys's minutes, because obviously they have like eleven

682
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,760
playable guys now, and you're not gonna play eleven guys

683
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,800
a night. You're not the Oklahoma City Thunder. Let's just

684
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:44,480
be realistic here, But how many nights are you gonna

685
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:45,559
have eleven guys?

686
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: I think that's twenty to twenty five games? You have

687
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,280
your full crew during the regular season, So if that

688
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,119
means more minutes for guys who are on the younger side,

689
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,519
Derek Jones Junior, I think is still twenty eight, Christina

690
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:02,719
is thirty one. If they're still playing heavy amount of

691
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,400
minutes out there, because that's what I think was obviously

692
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,800
the big difference. I don't think of Eats Zubas turned

693
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,320
into a different defensive player last season. I think maybe

694
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,320
he was a little bit better, but the point of

695
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,840
attack defense was so good it just helped everybody out.

696
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,039
And so I just I want to see them on

697
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,519
the other team's number one options a ton still to

698
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:24,800
slow them down. And if you're not having them in

699
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,760
the starting lineup of startoff games, I worry about guys

700
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,239
getting hot and then when you get a hand on

701
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,400
their face, it doesn't matter because they're already in rhythm.

702
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,280
But again, I get it, I get why you got

703
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,639
to start with those two guys with John Collins and Biale.

704
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:39,679
Speaker 1: And then someone pointed out on the bench too and

705
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,239
Adam we talked about this a little bit before we

706
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,039
recorded Lopez and CP three is the backup point, or

707
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:48,840
maybe not even backup point. Those minutes are going to

708
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,760
be really nice for the Clippers because you're guaranteed to

709
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,440
have two guys the Balloons agree, You're guaranteed you have

710
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,159
two guys who can just run the pick and roll competently.

711
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,960
I know that sounds so simple, but the Clippers second

712
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:07,159
and a half to third tier offense at backup centers

713
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,679
have not been very good at that. So those things

714
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,480
give the team a lot more stability too. And we

715
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:14,760
haven't even mentioned Bogie, who is going to be able

716
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,760
to not have Well, you talked about this I think

717
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,079
a couple episodes ago, Like now we don't have to

718
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,039
be like, well, Boge's actually pretty good at running the

719
00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:28,000
show when that's not what he should be doing. Yeah.

720
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious. So one thing, I mean, like, we've

721
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,320
talked so much last year about the identity, and I like,

722
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,719
I think part of that was, like the the locker

723
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,519
room was the most cohesive, but after some notable subtractions.

724
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,880
Is there any concern about now all these new editions.

725
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,360
You you know, we've talked about John Collins, big money player,

726
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,199
we talked about Brad Beal guy formerly a big money player,

727
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,360
Chris Paul very vocal locker room guy, like is there

728
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,159
any concern there. I mean, we talked a little bit about,

729
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,280
you know, about some of the ologies surrounding these guys

730
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,719
pre show, but uh, what are we thinking, what do

731
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,800
we thinking? Vibe wise?

732
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,119
Speaker 3: Here?

733
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:06,519
Speaker 4: They are they these guys are gonna be able to

734
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:07,480
be on the same page.

735
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: I think this could be toughest coaching job. And that's

736
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,320
saying something that's a lot to manage.

737
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,559
Speaker 4: It's a lot like it's you know, we got better

738
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,880
for sure, But I do think that it's it's definitely

739
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,360
a different set of personalities than it was last year.

740
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,760
And I do think I do think that that mentality

741
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,920
was one of those things that led to the you know,

742
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:31,440
it being greater than the sum of its parts. Was

743
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,920
they were able to get on the same page. And

744
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,400
I think, you know, aside from how good the defense was,

745
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:38,719
you just knew what they were going to do on

746
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,840
a night to night basis, Like it just felt like

747
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,760
the team had the most clear direction that it's maybe

748
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,360
had in the like you know, entire two and three era.

749
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,119
Maybe like you knew what you were going to see

750
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,239
on a night to night basis. And I'm just curious

751
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,280
how these additions all sort of shake that up.

752
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: Could you imagine Tyleru, who's only eight years older than

753
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:01,039
Chris Paul, telling the sit down and shut up?

754
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: At one point it might happen.

755
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 4: I believe it. I mean, maybe he'll have Jeff doing it.

756
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,199
Speaker 2: I think.

757
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: Chris is really pissing me.

758
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: Off right now.

759
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: You talk to him.

760
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,599
Speaker 2: We keep talking talking about the positive of having these

761
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:21,320
guys on short term deals, which means they have to

762
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,039
perform and they're an approve it type of year. The

763
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:27,480
other side of that, though, is they may have guys

764
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,760
can have their own agenda, they want to put up

765
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,039
numbers because it is a prove it type of year,

766
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:34,599
and that's the delicate balance.

767
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 4: I think this is a contract year effectively for Bradley.

768
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Beale Bill Yeah, yeah.

769
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know, Like Chris Paul's retiring after

770
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,880
this year, so he's on that. But Brooke brook Lopez

771
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,559
is retiring at the end of this probably contract, so

772
00:40:56,639 --> 00:40:57,920
that's not a prove it deal.

773
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: So just two of the new starters are starting.

774
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but I also but I also don't know,

775
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:13,400
like Brad's gonna get a new deal regardless. I don't

776
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,760
even think it's a proven deal for him, Like he's

777
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,119
no team next summer is gonna pay Bradley deal like

778
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:23,840
max money. So so either way, I think Brad just

779
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,800
tied into whatever the m L E is next year.

780
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,239
So I don't even think there's much of like ap

781
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,440
prove of like a prove it for him from that

782
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,639
point of view. And the reason, well, the reason I

783
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:38,559
said mL it's listen, then it's most of the mid

784
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:41,960
level exception, you know, like the major m L at

785
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,039
that point. But like you end up looking at Brad

786
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:49,239
and it's I don't know how much he has to

787
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,320
prove other than can he just be on a winning

788
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,760
environment that he's been on. It does, but he's also

789
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,480
just been on some really bad teams throughout his career,

790
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:04,360
not like all of it was this fall either. Brook Lopez,

791
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:07,559
I wrote in My Lopez thing, like his first ten

792
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,199
years in the league, he was on like maybe one

793
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,079
decent level team.

794
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:14,119
Speaker 1: You were kind of weird malcontents when I first came

795
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:14,800
into the league.

796
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: Uh. It just it's tough. I think, like if you

797
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:23,280
don't immediately if you're not immediately part of a winning team,

798
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,599
I think it's hard to show people that you play

799
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:28,360
a winning style of basketball. At times, I think it's just.

800
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,159
Speaker 1: Tough on the Clippers.

801
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 3: This sounds like that's not what I'm saying, But I

802
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,679
appreciate that. Now, Konkin Nipple on the other Summer League

803
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,079
MVP right there, baby, well that's the that's where the

804
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:46,360
real winners were. You know, I'm not gonna lie to you.

805
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,800
I actually think that I talked myself into after two

806
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,480
and a half courter.

807
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: Jordan Miller should have won last year, like easily.

808
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm someone I think Usso you posted that it

809
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:01,719
was Jordan Miller's ninth game in a row with at

810
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,760
least ninth tenth tenth tenth. That stat bums me out.

811
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,119
You shouldn't have that many games in a row of

812
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,079
nineteen points in Summer League.

813
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: But but, but, but hold on? Can I also just

814
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:17,280
say the two great Summer League factoids from this year

815
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,400
that I just want to point out, and then we

816
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,320
can get back to everything else. Because I'm a nerd.

817
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,840
Everyone knows that I love I love dumb shit on this. Okay.

818
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:30,480
Number one, Cole Swider of the Lakers is the is

819
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,880
the all time Summer League leader in made three point

820
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:34,159
also getting.

821
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: Go.

822
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: However, the caveat to this is he leads two different

823
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,440
summer leagues in made threes. He leads the Las Vegas

824
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,719
Summer League all time in mad threes, and he leads

825
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,360
every other summer league circuit combined and made threes, totally

826
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,880
separate type summer leagues, but he leads both of them.

827
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:56,039
Number two, The New Orleans Pelicans just lost their eleventh

828
00:43:56,039 --> 00:43:58,840
consecutive Las Vegas Summer League game. That's the all time record.

829
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,719
It broke a tie from the Lakers, who like ten

830
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,400
years ago, lost ten in a row. So when we

831
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,159
talk about how bad summer league could be, you could

832
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,400
be the New Orleans Pelicans.

833
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,519
Speaker 1: Disclosure. I watched the first three Clippers games and then

834
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:12,760
I couldn't bring myself to watch anymore.

835
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,599
Speaker 3: That third game, by the way, that was the Laker.

836
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,519
That was the Laker.

837
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:24,199
Speaker 2: Want to now Pelicans? It gets worse. They lost queen

838
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,480
for three months. Unbelievable. The guy they traded this year's

839
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:33,719
for sure. I'm pick four, which is crazy. Protected Joe

840
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,159
Dumars cooking with two polds maybe two first this year.

841
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:39,639
Speaker 1: Just makes the Clippers.

842
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: I don't mean to like soapbox this, but the fact

843
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,079
that not just Joe Dumars, the fact Troy Weaver got

844
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:49,280
another job in the NBA after what happened to Detroit

845
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,039
is insane to me.

846
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:54,559
Speaker 1: And they're together called the boys Club, Justin, and you're

847
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:59,000
not part of it. Coming up club because we're doing

848
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:02,320
a quick audio break. We had to match josephire Ford's

849
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:06,320
favorite segment length. We're gonna close out talking about I

850
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,119
guess expectations right now, I don't know. Coming up. You

851
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:12,480
can watch these if you're missing this at YouTube by

852
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:14,519
Columns Stack Clippers Podcast. We'd love to see you there.

853
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,519
We can see people like Justin Russo and Adam's cap

854
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,119
uh more Clipperstock coming up right after.

855
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: This, Welcome back in. It's Clippers Talk and Clippers Talk

856
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:26,119
Live for you if you're watching the YouTube side and

857
00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:29,559
now you're listening to God, it's been a long day

858
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,800
Clippers Live.

859
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 3: See did I see that you were live three hours

860
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,440
talking about Chris Paul the after?

861
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,159
Speaker 2: Thank you for C three What do you what do

862
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,800
you mean? Of course I was going to go three

863
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,079
hours work.

864
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:50,159
Speaker 3: Checking on your mental health man, Yeah, I appreciate it,

865
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,000
you know I did.

866
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,599
Speaker 2: By the way, I checked on your dog with a

867
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:56,320
text message. Recently, did I hear back from Justin Russo?

868
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 3: Sorry?

869
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Hell, but what I have good news.

870
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,639
Speaker 3: But I have good news. After three weeks, this dog

871
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,679
is pretty much back to normal, and I have a

872
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:08,119
new level of stress, which is I'm just pissed off

873
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:08,800
at them all the time.

874
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: So I shut on your dog, then I'll be checking

875
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:12,800
on your mental health.

876
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:19,639
Speaker 4: There you go, let's love a five it's their favorite thing.

877
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: Or double?

878
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: Are we gonna do a impromptu will updyke fun? Check

879
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:29,719
the checks right now? And I don't know if this

880
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,920
is the last move of the summer for the Clippers,

881
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:36,000
but I guess we're talking about expectations for this season

882
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,079
and what we're expecting and how much fun are you having? Will? What?

883
00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:42,199
How are we doing right now?

884
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm having a lot of fun for a season that

885
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,599
hasn't even started yet. I mean, this is what the

886
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,960
what the Clippers could do this offseason. I mean absolute

887
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,679
home run and a lot of guys. I'm just I'm

888
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,119
excited to watch. I'm excited to see how this all

889
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:03,000
this all sort of fits together. Brook Lopez fan for

890
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:04,800
a long time, I was saying that and that we

891
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,679
that we should have gone him like after he was

892
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:09,400
done with the Lakers, like they they let him walk.

893
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,320
Uh and he that was when he like started shooting threes.

894
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,199
He wasn't quite at the level that he would get to,

895
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,039
but it was like, there's a legitimate seven footer who

896
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:20,599
could like jacking up threes and also like just a

897
00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:24,119
cool guy. He's always wearing flip flops. Uh, he does

898
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,480
love Disney, which I'm not a fan of. But uh,

899
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:27,639
you know, other than that.

900
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:31,159
Speaker 1: He's ah, he seems like a good, good, good dude.

901
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,800
So you're hyped. You're pretty hyped right now.

902
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm feeling to see it on court,

903
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:38,960
but you know, you know, I could be talked into

904
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,320
our year.

905
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:43,119
Speaker 1: I'm feeling the exact same way I said last time

906
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:45,639
we had alive, I was back to positive Chuck Machler days,

907
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:49,679
and I'm there again because we have the hard line

908
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,000
of CP three come back in the reserve role. I

909
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:58,719
haven't seen anything to nitpick yet, so I can't possibly

910
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,679
have anything to be upset about, which I am time

911
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,239
stamping this seven nine pm July twenty First, I feel phenomenal.

912
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:12,519
Speaker 4: I'm also sorry. I'm also excited, like this seems like

913
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,440
and I could be wrong and this could go the

914
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:16,599
very opposite way.

915
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: Okay, but this could be.

916
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,119
Speaker 4: A very light workload for Kawhi Leonard. This could be

917
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,199
like a dicking around at work type of year, which

918
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:25,960
is if.

919
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,519
Speaker 3: You've ever had it.

920
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,639
Speaker 4: He's doing hot foot for whatever reason, you get a

921
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:32,159
week or two where your responsibilities aren't as high. You

922
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,400
just kind of get to dick around. It's like the

923
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:37,360
greatest thing ever. And that's what I want for him

924
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,760
for a full seasons exactly.

925
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:44,559
Speaker 1: I would argue, how about this even just two weeks

926
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:46,679
of that, because it's not like he's had a lot

927
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:49,519
of time to dick around on this Clippers team.

928
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,199
Speaker 3: Noted dick around or Kawhi.

929
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 4: Les Yeah, noted guy, Well was he doing all those

930
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,039
games he missed?

931
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,599
Speaker 2: Did you guys see when he put the whoopee cushion

932
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:01,559
under coach list seat last year? That was crazy? Like

933
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,280
this guys the fun guy. For a reason, he's doing hotfoot.

934
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: No I am. Hotfoot's also one of my favorite things

935
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,840
in the world. No I am. I'm incredibly excited. I

936
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,280
don't know the piece is fit justin and will you

937
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,880
talked about how it's a more balanced depth that we have.

938
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,519
I cannot believe how well the front office maneuvered this offseason.

939
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:26,880
I knew it would be. I didn't think they would

940
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,480
be bad. But we're starting next season with a better

941
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:33,639
roster than last year. We didn't lose any draft capital.

942
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:38,320
We're still not in apron hell or whatever. Ten out

943
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,440
of ten offseasons so far, as far as I'm concerned,

944
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,440
I cannot see myself being disappointed.

945
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 3: I ask, can I ask a very important question?

946
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: Yes?

947
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: Do they get a Christmas game?

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00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this too.

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00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: They will, and they'll also have a Christmas Eve game.

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It'll be the first Christmas Christmas back to back.

951
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Speaker 3: But okay, so I we're gonna say they get a

952
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,320
Christmas game? Who do they play?

953
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Speaker 1: The Lakers?

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Speaker 3: I think we're getting Lakers, Mavericks there, big guy.

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Speaker 1: Big guy ever a game.

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00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,199
Speaker 2: He's a big guy.

957
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, my bad. I guess we won't Clippers or Clippers.

958
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I guess how about that Russo.

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Speaker 3: They have to.

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Speaker 2: I could see that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe. I also wonder if they might do okay, see.

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Speaker 1: Denver Clippers Warriors, Clippers.

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Speaker 3: Warriors could be probably what it could.

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Speaker 2: Be Slippers Sixers add into a dome Christmas Day, like.

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Speaker 1: To add into all right, wait, justin Rousseau, your fun check.

966
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:46,920
Where are you answer the question.

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Speaker 3: Dude, I'm honestly, in terms of like the off season

968
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,920
they could have had, this is probably about as best

969
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,800
as you could have hoped for from not just like

970
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,920
a level of talent aspect, but like there's from a

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from a reporting like cover coverage standpoint. For me, this

972
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is great. You get the Chris Paul retirement year, you

973
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:12,199
get maybe but not even that. But Brook low Pez,

974
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,320
I know you hate you poop it on the Disneyland thing,

975
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:17,239
but you get Brook Lopez Disneyland stories all the time.

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00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:20,199
Speaker 1: Now Disney not it was Will and he's at Disney

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as a Disney.

978
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,599
Speaker 2: Brook Lopez was laid to the game. We got stuck

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on the mat at.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even ask anybody listener you a Disney guy.

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I didn't even know if anybody.

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00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 3: I don't have I do not have a Disney opinion.

983
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:39,440
Actually interesting, I I don't really care, noncommittal. I'm a

984
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,800
I'm a Disney.

985
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: All right, anyway, I'm.

986
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: A Disney nihilist. Let's please keep it real. He no,

987
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:56,280
like you get the Chris aspect of the retirement year,

988
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,079
you get the brook Lopez stuff. You get Kawhi healthy

989
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:00,960
start of the year stuff, where you don't you don't

990
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,880
go into training camp having to wonder when he's gonna

991
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:09,519
be back, you know, another year James coverage the Nico story.

992
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:13,039
This could possibly be his last year as well. I

993
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,920
uh well, I'm just saying possibly.

994
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:19,079
Speaker 2: Like the whole team is going to retire after they

995
00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:21,960
win the champions They're all right now off until the sunset.

996
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:23,679
Speaker 1: This is gonna be like when you're playing two K

997
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,320
and you're like, how many people are retired? This sim

998
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,159
is broken?

999
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:32,519
Speaker 3: You get the Brook Lopez uh or not Brookly, you

1000
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:37,960
get the Iviza Zubat's revenge Tour for Defensive Player of

1001
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,800
the Year. You there's there's all sorts of stuff you

1002
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,559
can get, Like this is honestly one of the most

1003
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:48,719
incredible years in terms of cast off characters that they

1004
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,519
could actually roll out there in terms of media obligations.

1005
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:54,480
And that also worries me because I wonder who the

1006
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,920
hell we're gonna get on a night to time basis,

1007
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,559
But we don't go there.

1008
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,159
Speaker 1: But if I'll put Brook out there, Brook is great

1009
00:52:59,159 --> 00:52:59,760
with the media.

1010
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: I would love to talk to Brook every night.

1011
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1012
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:07,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. It reminds me of Disney's Kingdom Hearts game, you know,

1013
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,119
where all these different worlds and characters are coming together.

1014
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:11,880
But you would know about that, would you were?

1015
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 3: So I know what Kingdom Hearts is.

1016
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: He did just say a big nerd and Kingdom Arts

1017
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:19,559
is pretty nerdy.

1018
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:23,079
Speaker 3: I've never played he never played Kingdom Hearts, but I

1019
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:23,320
know what.

1020
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: You must know a bunch about it? All right, Adam,

1021
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,519
your fund your up like fun check level?

1022
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: Uh more fun by the second here on this show

1023
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:38,079
talking about Disney and everything. I'm excited for this team.

1024
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,280
What is a Disney guy into Disney?

1025
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 3: It's a simple question.

1026
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,519
Speaker 2: I don't have a membership to Club thirty three or

1027
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:47,000
whatever it is. I probably haven't been to Disneyland in

1028
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,079
a good ten years.

1029
00:53:48,119 --> 00:53:51,679
Speaker 1: Oh you're clear, then you're totally Yeah, you're good. Yeah.

1030
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,159
Speaker 2: When you say I'm clear, like, so, you're not a

1031
00:53:55,199 --> 00:53:56,360
Disney guy clearly?

1032
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,679
Speaker 1: No, none of us though, that would be crazy. I

1033
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,559
have waste my money on them.

1034
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: I was the Disney guy back when there was the

1035
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,119
Big Four. Do you know what the Big four Disney

1036
00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:09,519
movies are? It was a four peat by Disney. This

1037
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,400
was some Bill Russell type stuff, Little Mermaid, Beauty and

1038
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,880
the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King. After that, I was pretty

1039
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,719
much out.

1040
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: What about Mighty Ducks.

1041
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay, May Ducks two especially.

1042
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, this is Patreon. As you know Patreon, Our

1043
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,960
patreons are We discussed dips and movies. It does not exist,

1044
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:32,719
but if we get enough support, we might have to start.

1045
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: D and D dips and Disney.

1046
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all Disney. It's very weird Disney.

1047
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: And dicking a route. As Kawhi letter would say.

1048
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh so you're pretty high. You're feeling good.

1049
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: I really do think this team has potential to be

1050
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:52,159
anybody in a seven game series. It's just the attrition

1051
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,960
of getting through four different rounds of that is the problem.

1052
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,480
How much are they going to have left in the

1053
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:01,920
tank when they meet that next team? Should they get

1054
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,239
passed around one? It's just that's what scares me. But

1055
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,760
there is a pathway at least, and as I said before,

1056
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,760
we get a dream again with this Clippers team. I'm

1057
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:13,599
excited about that.

1058
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: We get to dream again. That is a phenomenal way

1059
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,440
to put this. Uh this Clippers team. Okay, this person

1060
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,599
has asked this question multiple times. We have to answer it.

1061
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,440
Uh hot take Okay, see three or lower base a

1062
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:33,400
weight of expectations. I don't think they Okay.

1063
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 2: See okay see three or lower?

1064
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:37,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think okay.

1065
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: See is not game below two and likely not below one.

1066
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,760
They're gonna if they're healthy, they're gonna have the number

1067
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,559
one seed. They could have won seventy games this year guys,

1068
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,559
and chet Holmger missed like two months.

1069
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,559
Speaker 1: I think they'll be okay. That's my hot take, just decent.

1070
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,880
I think they'll be okay.

1071
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 3: Oh oh cool running what a great shout man.

1072
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, was a good Disney Phone. We got some more

1073
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,440
stuff in the chat.

1074
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: You're bad mother talks, John Candy Legend.

1075
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,199
Speaker 1: We gotta get out of here. We're gonna keep talk

1076
00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:16,800
about this, talk about movies, and that's what we're gonna do.

1077
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,320
We got a Kawhi Revenge season from Jonathan Vi last

1078
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,920
quiz love that justin Thank you so much for being

1079
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,480
on the show. You have put out such great content

1080
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:29,320
to get Clippers fans ready with the new editions, with

1081
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,159
the John Collins piece, thank you, and the Brook Lopez

1082
00:56:33,199 --> 00:56:37,599
piece and the real piece. Some people are waiting on

1083
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:39,400
to see me three piece, but some people don't want

1084
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:39,840
to write it.

1085
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 3: So listen, listen. If there's a Chris Paul piece, you're

1086
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,079
gonna have to wait a while.

1087
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: I I, that's fair.

1088
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:50,519
Speaker 3: I I don't have the mental for that right now.

1089
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,960
I'm actually tomorrow. I have an article Tuesday, the twenty second.

1090
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,000
I have an article coming out that's about something for

1091
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:01,159
the w n B A hell yeah, which it's data driven,

1092
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:03,119
so if anyone likes that type of stuff. I actually

1093
00:57:03,199 --> 00:57:06,920
ended up not to sound nerdy. I scrubbed data from

1094
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,000
the w NBA stat site and then I ran it

1095
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:11,079
through excelled and pumped it in through another thing, and

1096
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,440
I have an article.

1097
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: The third thing sounds well, where can people read this

1098
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,920
article that has a third thing involved in the calculations that.

1099
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 3: It's on the calculations it's it's for a website that

1100
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:27,800
turns your Excel content into like interactive charts that you

1101
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,519
can actually click on, so that it's easier for people.

1102
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: In articles you can be able to find these interactive charts.

1103
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:33,960
That's pretty sick.

1104
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: I almost forgot them, my U r L so it

1105
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,360
was justin Russo dot substack dot com.

1106
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: You alos forgot that? Okay, well you remember if you're listening,

1107
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:48,199
we hope you don't forget.

1108
00:57:51,519 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: It's been a log couple of days, brother.

1109
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: Will Where can people leave a review because we are

1110
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,880
going to do audio. I know this is a video

1111
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,400
right now, but we're gonna synthesize this, put it through

1112
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,320
a third thing, and then get it on audio for you.

1113
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:03,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1114
00:58:03,719 --> 00:58:06,199
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, you won't be able to visualize this if you're

1115
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:08,239
not watching us over at YouTube dot com slash at

1116
00:58:08,239 --> 00:58:10,239
Clippers podcast. But you can listen to this podcast where

1117
00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:11,159
you get your podcasts.

1118
00:58:11,159 --> 00:58:12,239
Speaker 1: If you happen to listen.

1119
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:14,199
Speaker 4: Over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, go ahead leave a

1120
00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:18,079
little rating or review. But yeah, you missed out not

1121
00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:19,000
watching this on YouTube.

1122
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. But well, are you.

1123
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:24,559
Speaker 3: Wearing the hat of the kid from a Sandlot war?

1124
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,719
Speaker 4: Is it a blank baseball cap?

1125
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:30,559
Speaker 3: Can you side profile?

1126
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: It does look like it's small. Is that his name?

1127
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Small smalls as a rocket la.

1128
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:39,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he can't play.

1129
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,599
Speaker 1: All right, Adam. One positive thing was that Disney.

1130
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:43,679
Speaker 2: No, no, it was.

1131
00:58:43,639 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: Not one positive thing for these Clippers fans heading into

1132
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,760
the rest of the week. It feels like it's been

1133
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:50,599
a couple of days already.

1134
00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: But CP three, I think it's pretty clear he's the

1135
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,239
greatest Clipper of all time, not the most talented guy

1136
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,280
to put them on a Clippers jersey. I think that's Kawhi.

1137
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:06,000
But if you're talking about career and now it's definitely

1138
00:59:06,119 --> 00:59:10,079
ending as a Clipper, I think it's solidified that he's

1139
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:12,079
the greatest Clipper of all time. You get to watch

1140
00:59:12,159 --> 00:59:16,519
him for another season in a different shade of red

1141
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:19,840
with his new threads, as he used to wear red

1142
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,039
for this team back when they had it with the

1143
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,400
Lob City days they just brought back this past year.

1144
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,719
I'm really hyped. I think this is going to warm

1145
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,960
a lot of people's hearts in Clipper Nation. It's a

1146
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:33,400
good day.

1147
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: There we go. It's a good day justin the floor.

1148
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,519
Speaker 3: I just want to talk about could you imagine this

1149
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:43,840
year if Chris Paul's in the arena and they retire

1150
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:44,920
Blake Griffin's jersey.

1151
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance that seems like pretty

1152
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,679
I'd be calling the game on Amazon Primewalka.

1153
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: The broadcasting might be one of the most sentimental moments

1154
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,000
you'll ever see in the hit well, probably the most

1155
00:59:57,039 --> 00:59:58,519
sentimental moment you've ever seen in the history of the

1156
00:59:58,559 --> 00:59:59,400
Los Angeles Clippers.

1157
01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:01,559
Speaker 1: I'll try and dunk over at key to get hurt

1158
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:02,280
real bad.

1159
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:08,559
Speaker 3: Way Ago Chuck Chuck Uphow, all right, we'll be back.

1160
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: Maybe later this week, I don't know, but definitely next week.

1161
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:13,119
Thank you for hanging out. Thank you everyone in the chat,

1162
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,280
ninety nine percent of you. Uh and thank you this.

1163
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,320
It's just a good time. We get a hope again

1164
01:00:20,519 --> 01:00:23,719
and that's great for Clippers fans. Welcome back, Welcome back,

1165
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,760
Chris Paul. Times are good. We'll see y'all later