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Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone, sho a new episode You're wrong with

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Molly Him and Wyn David Parsani. Just as a reminder,

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at radio at the Federalists dot com. We like to

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hear from you. Second Assassination Attempt a podcast for us

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this year, Molly and I.

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Speaker 2: Hope it is the last of those for the year.

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Is even as we might have understood that people who

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want Donald Trump dead would keep trying to kill him,

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it's still a horrifying thing to be going through the

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second one of these. You can be very thankful that

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Trump survived this, and yeah, I mean we should not.

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Speaker 1: This is not some you know, there are stories sometimes

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where there's some threat and the guys just wandering around

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or somewhere. No, this sy had a GoPro camera, he

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was set up. If the Secret Service hadn't gotten shot

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so off, he probably would have killed Donald Trump. I mean,

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this is a serious attempt, and I guess we should

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be thankful that the Secret Services marginally has performed marginally

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better than last time. Though I don't know why you

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don't hit a guy like that from where they were,

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but anyway, we'll learn well. That would be yes.

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Speaker 2: I am very thankful that the Secret Service located this

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person before he got any shots off on Donald Trump.

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I'm not thrilled. So I don't know if you saw

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the press conference where all the law enforcement officials were

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bragging about how awesome they are, and I was thinking,

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I'm not sure if I want you guys to be

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patting yourselves on the back. That this guy was just

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camped out there for what was it, eight to twelve hours,

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that he was just one hole away from where Trump

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was golfing, so within minutes of hitting Trump, that nobody

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had done any surveillance, you know, like even drone surveillance

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or something of the area to make sure that there

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was no threat. Like I'm not, I'm not the most

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impressed I've ever been. And then also they shot at

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him but they didn't hit him, which is not fully

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confidence inspiring. And he was only really nabbed because of

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a civilian noticing something was wrong when he jumped into

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the car or something about the way. I don't know

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exactly what the circumstances were, but it was the civilian

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who notified the police about his getaway.

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Speaker 1: I think she followed him and yeah, got what the

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guy's name is, Ryan, Right, it doesn't rouse something, It

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doesn't really matter. He was a politically motivated person. I listen. Obviously,

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anyone who's trying to assassinate the president most of the

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time they're a little off their rocker. But it is

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clear that he was motivated by political concerns, especially on

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the Ukrainian War, Ukraine and Russian War, and a big

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fan of Ukraine. I think he went over there.

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Speaker 2: You know, David, I have to correct you. Actually, the

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media say that his politics is uncertain, and I trust

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them on that. So where are you getting this idea

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as motivation?

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Speaker 1: I was probably misled by the fact that in his

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tweets he used literally language that Kamala Harris and Joe

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Biden use about this vote being a vote to save democracy.

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I would say that also, the fact that he tried

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to kill the Republican candidate probably means that he was

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political books.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Biden Harris bumper sticker on his

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vehicle tells us anything?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing how when that crazy person went after

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Paul Pelosi, you know, who had no political like there

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was no evidence that he was driven by any kind

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of Republican rhetoric or anything. It immediately everyone who's a

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Republican or conservative has to take responsibility for him, apologize

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for it, toned down the rhetoric. When you have a

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guy who has a bumper sticker of the presidential candidate,

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it is it. We just do.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. Donald Trump is an existential threat.

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You're right, we have to end everything. Now. That might

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be an indication of his politics. So the and how

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he viewed the rhetoric that Democrats and the media are

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using against him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, we can talk about that in

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a second. Eight Okay, So clearly he was driven by

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concerns political concerns. He may have been motivated by Democrats,

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I think, you know, and they're over the top rhetoric.

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He was a little bit nuts. I think he's spent

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many years being you know, he was arrested and I

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think in two thousand and four or two, I forget

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what it was for weapons charge. The way the media

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reacted to this was unprecedented. I mean they literally didn't

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even bother like last time, giving it maybe a day

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or two of coverage in the normal way you would

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cover an assassination. Assassination attempt, immediately went and went on

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a blaming victims spree. My favorite headline, I just want

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to start this part of the conversation. I want to

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read it to us from Jonathan Allen. I believe that's NBC.

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Trump dispenses with Unity, blames Democrat after apparent second assassination attempt,

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The Hill gop seeds after second apparent assassination attempt on Trump.

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Speaker 2: How I don't know, In contrast to the Hill, which

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danced a little jig and said better luck next time.

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I mean, I don't even understand the headline.

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Speaker 1: So this was this was There were a slew of

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similar headlines, a slew of similar takes.

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Speaker 2: The entire media complex have been blaming Donald Trump for

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his own shooting, his own assassination attempts, and they've been

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doing it in many ways. They've also been downplaying this.

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I mean, coming this close to an assassination is a

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massive issue, and most of the media have not treated

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it as such. I mean, even this is interesting to me.

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People who aren't deeply tuned into like Twitter or or

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doing too much news watching, they might not even know

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that there was a second assassination attempt.

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Speaker 1: It was treated like a story about a bill being

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voted down. You know, it was treated just like something

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that is the norm. We're normalizing this as if it's

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not that big a deal.

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Speaker 2: They clearly understand that Democrat attempts on Trump's life help

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the Republican candidate, and so they're just not trying to

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show any pictures of him surviving attempts or including the

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very iconic like one of those history great histories, great

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photos pictures of him with the bloodied ear rising and

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encouraging everybody to fight forward. The propaganda press is really

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dangerous right now.

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Speaker 1: If you really believe that Donald Trump is the next Hitler,

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and by the way, that's exactly what a lot of

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people in the left say. It's not hyperbole for me

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to say that's what they're saying. Then why wouldn't you

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want him assassinated? If I thought Hitler was going to

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come into power, I would want to assassinate that person myself, right,

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So I yeah, we have to.

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Speaker 2: Separate having normal differences where you think one direction of

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the country is better than another one might be a

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very serious problem with the very specific rhetoric that has

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been used. I coined it assassination prep last November or December,

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I noticed that there were a lot of people that

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had somehow like it seemed the impossible. They had amped

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up their anti Trump rhetoric from the previous cycle, and

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it was pretty bad the previous two cycles. But you

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started seeing these magazine covers portraying Donald Trump as Hitler

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or to just you know, against state the obvious. We

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have games in this country, or discussions like, oh, would

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you go back in time and kill baby Hitler because

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it's such a it's such a well understood thing that

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Hitler is someone you would kill if you had the chance,

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or that's what you know, so many people think is

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a morally appropriate thing. So doing that type of rhetoric

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as The Atlantic and other major media have with like

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tons of big names on the on the cover saying

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Trump is Hitler, existential threat, destroys the country. If he's elected,

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someone brave has to stop him. You know, this is

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assassination prep rhetoric. And I'm not saying that people aren't

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still responsible for their own decisions. I read the Atlantic

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telling me to kill you know, people, and I don't

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do it because I am smarter than the Atlantic, So

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I'm not blamed. But there are these unstable or less

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stable people. And I think this attempted assassin who is

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just arrested is a really good example of one sort

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of highly functioning, incompetent, but also seems a little off

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right the exact type of person who would respond to

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that kind of rhetoric by I don't know, trying to

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kill the president on the golf course. Just because it

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might be protected speech or is protected speech, does not

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mean that you should do it. There's a responsible way

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to discuss political differences, even ones that you view as

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like very fundamental to the future of the republic.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I think we should take a step back

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at least I want to take a step back and

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say I am usually I don't like when people try

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to chill speech, even if it's over the top speech.

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And I don't think that just because you're saying stupid

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things or over the top things, that you are now

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responsible for every nut who picks up a gun, as

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you just said. But here's the thing. Jonathan Shate wrote

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a piece about how we shouldn't they democrats shouldn't have

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to stop saying the truth in his mind that Donald

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Trump is an authoritarian, and that's fine. I don't think

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they should have to stop saying it if that's what

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they believe. But they soft pedal. What is an effort

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not just to depict Donald Trump as the next Hitler,

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which I think is a lie, but they lie about

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the things he says to depict him as Hitler, meaning

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they say he is saying. They say Donald Trump is

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saying there's going to be a blood bath after the election.

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That is a lie. He was talking, you know, in

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the way he speaks about the auto industry. They say

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that he said that both sides of the you know,

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that the Nazis were good people in Charlottesville. That's a lie.

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So what they're doing is not just saying that Donald

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Trump is a threat. They lie about the things he

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does and says and wants to do to make him

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sound more like Hitler, which is, you know, just a

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blatant lie. Because I think they do they do have

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some responsibility in that way. I think Kamala Kamala Harris

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is I struggle to say her first name, got to try.

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Kamala Harris is an authoritarian and no one I don't

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care if someone picks up a gun tomorrow. I think

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that that's true. I don't think anyone should get violent,

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but she is an authoritarian and I should be allowed

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to say that. And Jonathan ja should be allowed to

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say what he wants, but he has some responsibility. He

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spent years. He wrote a gi long, ginormous piece saying

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that the president of the United States was a foreign

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asset who had been sent to undermine and destroy our country.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? And the best way to discuss political differences is

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with full throated you know, have these really vociferous debates

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based on what you think about the various policy approaches,

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and then also have free and fair and trustworthy elections

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so that when people vote on these things, they can

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understand that there was a winner or a loser and

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move on. And that issue too. All of these things

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are enabled or harmed by a free and functioning press,

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or a press that's operating the way it should be.

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it's going to harm that civil discourse. And if it

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is operating well, it can help people come to better

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decisions in a self governing republic, which is what we're

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supposed to be. And so the corporate media being instead

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of helping helping people have good discussions about the best

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way forward or what to do with the country. They

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are embracing totalitarian impulses as well, and it is causing great,

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great harm to the country. And it's very frustrating because

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they're just getting worse every single day. They get worse

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and worse, and I honestly don't know what to do.

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Although I'm happy that many Americans seem to understand the

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Speaker 1: The day I don't want to get off track too much,

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but the day of the assassination attempt. The New York

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the Supreme Court, the institutionalist who is the most milk toast, solomonic,

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you know, person on the court, basically was in the

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bag for Donald Trump that he had somehow uh you know,

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planned out a way to help January sixth rioters get

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off the hook, right like, because of course that's what

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John Roberts is doing, like a whole long piece that

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is part of the crusade to destroy the Supreme Court,

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the single and only bulwark against leftist basically authoritarianism now

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and upholding the Constitution occasionally, and they want to destroy it.

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And then they have the gall the next day to start,

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you know, to talk about how Donald Trump's had fought

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for his own assassination attempt because he's some kind of

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crazed authoritarian. I don't like everything someone wrote a letter.

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You know, why do I have to always say this?

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So I say it because I want people to understand

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the context of where I'm coming from. I think even

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people who don't like Donald Trump should understand that this

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is not that we're going in a very dangerous direction

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in this country.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to pause since you mentioned it this letter,

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do you mind if I read it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we get this letter from a listener Harsani.

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Speaker 1: When I read it, I knew you are going to

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read it on it.

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Speaker 2: It came in like moments before we take So the

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first thing that this writer notes is the similarities between

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the Democrat Party and Ingsak from nineteen eighty four. And

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so the writer points out hatred of Donald Trump is

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similar to hatred of Manuel Goldstein the enemy of the State,

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with daily hate sessions moderated by the propaganda organs of

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the party. And there's also the inherent anti semitism of

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the Democrat Party and Ingsak. Her version of language due

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to wokeism is similar to that under news speak, rejection

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of objective scientific reality and accusations of thought crimes. We

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could go on, but I wonder if Democrats read this

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Orwellian scribbling as a blueprint instead of as a warning.

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Maybe we should put a little mustache and Kamala and

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see if she could be big sister. On an unrelated topic,

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Arsani continually notes that he doesn't like Donald Trump in

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his remarks on the podcast, but I think that is

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entirely irrelevant to the learned to discussion of our fraught

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political environment. Do you make this statement so that we

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will reward you with gold stars for your virtue? I

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think it is safe to say that anyone who thinks

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they should be president of the US is an unmitigated

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narcissist and is inherently unlikable. Having a personal animus against

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Trump makes no sense unless he stole your car, your dog,

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or your girl. You already kind of gave your response

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to that, but I do want to say that someone

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said that to me early on in the Trump presidency.

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They asked me, why must you do this ritual malediction

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before you say, oh, by the way, this Trump policy

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is great, or if these people attacking Trump are wrong?

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And the viewer in that case, it was a Fox

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News viewer just encouraged me to not do ritual malediction.

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And I was very chastened by that because I realized

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I was doing it to get little gold stars from

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the bad people in DC so that they would understand

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I'm not like all those voters out there. I'm better

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than that, you know, and started to make me feel

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ill if I did it. So I pretty much reserve

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my maledictions for when they are totally necessary. I don't

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actually think you're that or I think it's different for you,

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which is, you genuinely hate Donald Trump, and so for

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you to not say it, you're not doing it for

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gold stars. You're doing because you just actually hate the guy, right,

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You so dislike him and what he stands for that

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Speaker 1: I don't like populists, and I don't like populism and

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people who engage in that kind of stuff I don't like.

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And I've never liked Donald Trump. I would say I

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have any personal animis. I actually think he's probably one

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of the funniest president or the funniest president maybe we've

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ever had. I think he's I think people take his

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the way he speaks very literally. And I know this

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is a cliche, but it's I will say this about

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the gold star thing. When you write a column where

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you're like, Donald Trump is wrong, but I'm going to

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defend him on the on whatever you know, way I do.

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You hit from both sides, you don't get gold stars.

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Everyone hates you, then you know what I mean, And I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think I think everyone knows. The safe thing to

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say is that you hate Donald Trump, and then if

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you weren't to say it, it would actually be very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I don't think I do that write.

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I write tons of columns where I don't say I

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don't defending what Trump does, and I don't say I

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don't like him. But I do think it's important to mention,

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as I said before, because I think it gives it

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context where you're saying, not everything in the world should

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be about your like or dislike of Donald Trump, and

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that is the biggest problem we have in politics. I

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wrote about the Roberts piece in The Times, and I

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noted that everything they taught, the whole entire piece, which

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was three thousand, five hundred words long, not once did

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they say, oh, are the merits of this case good? No,

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they only talk about how it affects or doesn't affect

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Donald Trump, which is an completely corrosive way to look

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at American politics. And I think too many people on

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both sides actually do that. So I don't know. That's

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why I think I mention it. I don't like the

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navel gazing talking about myself, but I really don't care

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about gold stars, to be honest with you, and I

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think you know that unless they're coming from you, unless

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they're a Molly gold Star.

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Speaker 2: I haven't read the New York Times piece. I've been traveling,

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and it's definitely on my list of things to read.

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But everything I read about it made it seem like

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John Roberts was so much better than his critics have asserted.

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I have very mixed feelings on him. I know it's

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very popular to dislike him on the right, but I

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think that partially he is exactly who he said he

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would be when he was nominated, and it is a

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very moderate institutionalist and the idea that doing moderate institutionalism

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in the face of hubristic zealotry from the left, like,

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for instance, not just the effort to remove Donald Trump

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from the ballot, which is just insane. It was so

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insane that Katanji Brown Jackson voted it down. I mean,

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that's crazy. And then also all of these efforts to

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imprison their political opponent, Donald Trump that was destabilizing to

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the republic. That John Roberts would act in a way

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to make sure that the Court wasn't also participating in

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an effort to destroy the Republic is the most John

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Roberts thing in the world, and it kind of gives

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the case for John Roberts. So a lot of people

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don't like how he handled Obamacare. I'm one of them.

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But his case is that he's trying to preserve a

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moderate way forward where Congress handles its own problems and

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the Court doesn't get involved. Likewise, the Court doesn't get

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involved in determining you know, who's on the ballot or

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you know, this is just again very this is consistency

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from John.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. His his belief, I believe, is that he

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doesn't think the court. He believes voters should be making

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a lot of the choices that courts make for them.

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So he wants to limp. Since you brought it up,

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if I can, I wrote a piece about this, the

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Roberts the Roberts piece, The headline was how Roberts shaped

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Trump's Supreme Court winning streak, which intimates that he helped them.

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That a three momentous and that's a quote case is

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that they spoke about one of them, that where Roberts

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rigged the court for Donald Trump. One of them was

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a nine zero decision, as you say, stopping Colorado from

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throwing a candidate off the the the ballot, which he didn't.

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You know, if the Supreme Court can't get involved in

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that case, I don't think it needs to exist anymore.

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The other one was the Fisher versus us where they

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where they were using the kind of white cos Oxley

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to prosecute January sixth writers, even Katanji Brown Jackson kind

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of wrote, ah, you know, concurring opinion. That wasn't completely

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you know that she thought it was, you know, somewhat abusive.

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And what was the other case? The other case was

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the uh yeah, the immunity case, where where he actually

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according to these leaks and by the way, whoever's leaking

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stuff from the Supreme Court is trying to destroy that institution.

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They're not going to be able to have on his

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discussions anymore if everything is every memo is lead. But anyway,

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the immunity case, the concern you know, so called conservative

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justices wanted to delay it until the after the election,

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and he said, no, how is he in the bag

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for Donald Trump? He did, you know, and obviously the

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way people I don't love that decision. I'm not a

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court expert, but a legal expert, but it's well within

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the tradition of how Americans deal with presidential immunity. It's

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not some crazy decision that makes Donald Trump a dictator.

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That's just nonsense anyway. So they're destroying the court, destroying

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the constitution, and at the same time yelling about democracy

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all the time. It's just completely it's just a complete lie.

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If we can change topics, I think I think we've

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exhausted that one.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to talk about Operation hot Pocket.

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Speaker 1: So I like that so incredible targeted operation that I

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think is I would say the most impressive Israeli operations.

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It's the start of the nineteen sixty seven war. It's preemptive.

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But maybe ever you know where Israel blew up around

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three thousand or more pagers and that were in the

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pockets or in the hands of Hisabella operatives and workers.

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In fact, I saw a story today. I'm not sure

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this has been verified, but in Syria another few hundred

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blew up as well, in the pockets of some other folks.

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It reminds me of Mosad in the seventies and all

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the like inventive things they used to do to protect themselves.

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I will just quickly say, anyone who's out there saying

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this is a Israelis are acting indiscriminately or terroristic. They

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prove that they do not care about human rights of Palestinians.

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They do not care about those bombings. They just hate

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and want Israel to lose. Because this kind of operation

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goes after the people who planned, for instance, the murder

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of twelve Drew's children on a soccer field in northern Israel,

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who who launched thousands of missiles into Israel. And I

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don't know, I was just made me proud of Israel,

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and I was excited about it, and I think it

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shows a lot of ingenuity and smart in that country.

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I don't know, how do you feel about it as

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a It's not a you know, it's just a person

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who is not a Jew. He's not a Jew.

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Speaker 2: I actually saw this great tweet yesterday that was like,

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can I talk about the cunning craftiness of Jews but

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mean it in a totally awesome way. I'm just like,

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first off, from a military sense or intel sense, it's

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just an amazing operation, and I think it's so interesting.

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I don't know if we'll learn how they did it

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or not. I know that the sort of official story

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or what the first takeaway was was that Israel had

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figured out how to hack into these pagers to make

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the battery explode. I saw a tech and war analyst saying, yeah,

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that's what they were going to say. But actually these

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would have been intercepted to have little bomb like capabilities

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in them and then activated.

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Speaker 1: Because the battery when it blows up, will first go

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be in flames. And from the video you can see

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that that's not what happened. There was someone put explosives

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into the pagers, that it.

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Speaker 2: Was simultaneous that it was geo fenced, or how would

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say geolocated in such particular area southern Lebanon, you say Syria,

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you know a few other little places, but not you know,

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if you were a Hesbola fighter who was in Dearborn, Michigan,

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for instance. It doesn't seem like the pager went off there,

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just how it all worked out to be done and

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so massively, And even that the Hasbola people had bragged

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that to get around Israel they were using pages instead

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of traditional communications, which means they can't use the traditional communications,

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and now they can't use pagers either, and it's going

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to be more assault for them to get their work

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done trying to destroy Israel.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a psychological aspect to this as well. Where

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Israel can get to you wherever you are in your

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pant pocket, they could blow something up, is probably going

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to lower conscriptions to Hesbola.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the aspect that this, you know, I know,

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I think I'd read nine people were killed, is that right?

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Speaker 1: I think it's up to like fourteen or fifteen now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but thousands of pagers went off. So this was

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designed less for killing all of the terrorists who are

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trying to kill Israel and more about disrupting their communications

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the manner in which, you know, just because of where

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men tend to hold their pagers. That is such an

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interesting psychological thing going on.

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Speaker 1: Is it called Operation below the Belt or something? I think?

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So seeing all these men with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all these cowards who want who try to kill

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children and civilians, having dealing with that, it was was fine.

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Speaker 2: And the memes that were a result were also quite enjoyable.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone did a good job yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It was like one of those days we just like

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to enjoy the Internet. I saw some common Israel critics

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just being very angry at this operation and saying that

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it was designed to harm civilians. And I think by

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the definition, I'm not saying that civilians couldn't be injured

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or weren't injured in this. There were, I'm sure, and

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there was even Wasn't there a report of a young girl, yeah,

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being killed or.

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Speaker 1: Something, But we don't know that that's true, but it

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could possibly be true, right.

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Speaker 2: But that's another thing I liked about it. It wasn't like,

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let's bomb the entire civilian population of southern Lebanon. It

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was let's take out the guys who are carrying has

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Bola pagers. It's very targeted, very specific to the bad guys,

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and I like that too, And it's just it's just

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so impressive.

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Speaker 1: There's another aspect to this. It also mapped out exactly

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where the people are, where they go, where their offices are,

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where they're you know you, Israel probably could see exactly

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where all of these things blew up. So it gives

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them tons of intel about Isabella, which is a serious

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armed force with hundreds of thousands of missiles. They're an

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Iranian proxy. It is this is not this is much

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more well, is much more dangerous than Hamas is for Israel.

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So yeah, it was it was an incredible operation. Everyone

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assumes that Israel got into the supply chain and put

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these explosives into the into the pagers. A Taiwani, a

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Taiwan company makes these pages. They lease out their designs

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to other companies. Apparently the company that made these were

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in Hungary. I wouldn't be surprised, and it's just me

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theorizing that the company itself was an Israeli made plant

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who made the pagers, Like we shouldn't. They've done this

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kind of thing before where they where they provide things like,

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you know, to the Iranian nuclear program that they actually

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build or program. So we don't know. I'm sure they're

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not gonna They're not gonna tell us exactly what happened,

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but worth keeping an eye on. Can we talk about

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one more topic that is I think important. Great are

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friends at Pro Publica, which I would say maybe are

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the most dishonest journalistic outfit in America, I would you know,

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other than maybe you know some conspiracy sites or whatever,

524
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even though I don't think they're much better. In fact,

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I think they're worse because their reach is far far larger.

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They are kind of this tool of the left affront.

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If you will that right. Story is usually their biggest

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stories are smearing Supreme Court justices they don't like with nonsense.

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They I've called a Potempkin journalism. What they do is

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they build this huge, long story with pictures. Sometimes they'll

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have graphs, a lot of very you know, journalistic rhetoric

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that sounds like they're doing work, But really what they're

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doing is they're repackaging, laundering the APO research, i'd call it,

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or lies of the Democratic Party. So their latest piece

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was this was this long piece about a woman. I

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forget her name, I'm sorry. I think it was Amber Thurman,

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a Georgia woman who died while she sat at a

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hospital for twenty hours waiting for a procedure to help

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her because she had taken abortion pills. And I don't

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know how this works, and I don't want to get graphic,

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but basically there was a infection because the fetus had

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not been expelled, I believe, and doctors didn't go in. Now,

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Kamala Harris has been now all over the news saying

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that this shows that the Georgia law abortion law kills women.

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But I read through the story and what I did

546
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was it was very long. I took out all the

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parts that were actually about Amber Thurman. I took them

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out and I put them in a document so I

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could read the story without the hundreds of thousands of

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words that had nothing to do with it. That was

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just you know, smearing and scare mongering. And there is

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not a single sentence in there that proves that make

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that a poll that backs that contention at all. It wasn't.

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I read it. And in the fifty seventh paragraph, Molly,

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the fifty seventh paragraph of the story, it says these words.

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It is not clear from the records available why doctors

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waited to provide a DNC, which completely undermines the headline,

558
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the contention of the story, all of it. By the way,

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even if doctors had said that they didn't do it

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because of the Georgia abortion law, it would have been

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a complete lie on their part. It is clearing the bill.

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To save a mother's life, you can do whatever procedure

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you need. More Over, the abortion had already been done.

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There was nothing, There was no reason for them not

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to do it unless they were complete idiots. And that's

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on them, it's not on the law anyway. That's my spiel.

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Speaker 2: So I'm so glad you explained that Pro Publica it's

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basically Democrat party journalism. It's funded by Democrat donors and billionaires,

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and they are they have massive resources. So you know,

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if you're targeting a Supreme Court justice, you get dozens

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of reporters put on them to call every neighbor, to

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cause problems, to make people feel unsafe in their homes.

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You know, you can. You just get a ton of

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resources to make life a living hell for conservatives or

575
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Republicans are just non non leftists, non Democrats, and all

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of their journalism is focused on harming the right and

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helping the left. They do information operations. And one of

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the issues with Dobbs, the decision by Justice Alito the

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Court handed down a couple of years ago, is that

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gives to the American people the right to set abortion

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laws in their own states or in whatever jurisdiction. And

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the Democrats don't like that. They want abortion on demand

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through all nine months of pregnancy, and they don't want

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to have to talk about it, and on their behalf,

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they have a corporate media that helps them not talk

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about it. So if you were to say that's what

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we really want, you know, because most people are setting

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pretty understandable abortion protections. So the situation is that very

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few people in the country are either truly pro life

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or truly pro abortion. Most people think that there should

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be at least some protection for unborn children at some

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point in a pregnancy. That's not what democrats want. And

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so to say, Okay, we want to be able to

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kill this baby as it's exiting the birth canal just

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because the mother wants to isn't as politically friendly as claiming, oh,

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these pro life laws that people have passed, they're killing women.

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What particularly, and that's a lie. It is an absolute lie.

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In all fifty states, if a mother's life is in

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danger from an ectopic pregnancy or a miscarriage, or even

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from an abortion, they can get the care that they

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need to. What's particularly insidious about this is that the

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corporate media and other Democrats have been running a propaganda

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campaign against women, claiming that abortion pills are safe and

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that only bad people wouldn't want women to be able

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to take abortion pills to end their children's lives.

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Speaker 1: And quickly just say one thing. The headline of this

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piece should have been woman dies after complications of an

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abortion pill that's the actual story of this pro public apiece.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be. We at Pro Publica lied to you,

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where liars. We told you the abortion pill was safe,

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and it's not actually safe. What happened is exactly what

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pro lifers have been saying happens with the abortion pill,

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and why your plans for completely unregulated abortion pill abortions

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aren't so great for women. That's what the headline should be.

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Speaker 1: Well that she goes into a paragraph after a paragraph

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about how it's completely safe to take the abortion pill,

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when the whole story is about a woman who dies

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because she took the abortion pill, and then she says

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only five people, five women, have died from it. Well

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that's five more than have died from a single pro

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life law that's been passed anywhere in America. And yet

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that's not the story, right.

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Speaker 2: It does seem this woman did not receive good care.

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But the number one takeaway should be for women. If

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you're thinking about ending your baby's life with an abortion pill,

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be aware that that is not risk free for you.

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Either it'll kill the baby true, it'll also possibly kill

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or harm you. That's something that women should know when

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they are thinking about whether to end their unborn children's lives.

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You know, in my view, shouldn't shouldn't commit violence in

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the womb anyway, but if you're going to do it,

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you should know that there are these health risks. This

633
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is going to be a massive information op. Kamala Harris

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has just said, you know, we're going to we're going

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to make this our story. And the idea that Pro Publica,

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with all of its resources, couldn't find a better example.

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Although there's their their general path is to take one

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00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,559
shady story and follow it up with another shady story.

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Speaker 1: What they're going to do, so, yeah, just be prepared.

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Speaker 2: That's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: The second one is coming today, I think. Actually yeah, yeah, So.

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Speaker 2: That you're like, oh, this isn't true, okay, and here's

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why this one isn't true, And it takes a while

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to kind of figure out why they're lying or exactly

645
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how they're lying.

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Speaker 1: But people also, I'm sorry, I keep interrupting. I'm sorry,

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but I'm just saying that the Pro Publica does this

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a lot and a lot of times they will take

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stories that even you know so just quickly want to

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I'm sure view listeners know this, but journalists actually don't

651
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go out and report stories anymore. They sit at their

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desk at the New York Times. Someone calls them with

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the story. They decide whether to launder it or not.

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So the activist group will work its way down. It'll

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start at the Times, at the Post, and when it

656
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,199
gets the very bottom of the list, it's pro public on.

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Pro publica will put anything out. What happens then, however,

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is that the New York Times will secondhand report the story.

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Do you know what I'm saying? So they you know?

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So that's the little game they play. Now. I don't

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know if you you know. Going back to the debate,

662
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when Kamala Harris was asked about abortion and she didn't answer.

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She probably said she was had grown up in the

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middle class or something when they asked her about it,

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and Donald Trump had to ask her, what protection do

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you support if Annie? He had to ask it because

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the ABC moderators were, of course terrible, and she went on.

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She gave some kind of words out, but within it

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she said she wanted to bring back the protections of Roe.

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It's a complete lie a because Roe offers zero enforceable protections.

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We know that. We know that by reading the Atlantic

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story on Warren Hearn, who has been killing completely healthy,

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viable babies for decades when ROE was in forced. But

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that's also a lie because Democrats forget what the name

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of the stupid bill was. I think Women's Protection Act

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or something went way beyond codifying Roe. It allowed for

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abortions on demand all the way until crowning and after.

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What Donald Trump said about executing baby was probably slightly

679
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over the top. It's more, I believe, like negligent homicide.

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But that is a completely legal thing to do in

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stayed after state. And yet the entire media claim that

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he had lied. He hadn't lied. Maybe he overstated it

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a bit, but in my view, that's an execution in

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its own way, and it's just way Donald Trump talks anyway, ranting.

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Speaker 2: No, it's bad. And this type of disinformation, willful, malicious

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disinformation being spread by corporate media and other top democrats

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is very dangerous.

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Speaker 1: To the public. When's the last time you ever had

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a debate with someone on the left about the actual

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morality or science of an abortion. I have no one

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will engage me in that. Ever, it's constantly this this

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bs disinformation or oh roh already protected viable baby or

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whatever it is. They can never have a debate about

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the morality of it anymore. They just don't. They just

695
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accuse you of being a misogynist or whatever. I get

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called a crazy I get called a like a theocrat

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all the time, and you know it's just a.

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Speaker 2: Even Arsani noted theocrat.

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Speaker 1: So it's impossible to have a debate with them because

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it's just constantly these accusations that get away with because

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the media won't have the debate either.

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Speaker 2: So can I just say really quickly too, Apart from

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the politics, which are so so important, I really want

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people to think about what they're doing in their own

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lives to create and nurture a culture of life and

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make sure that you're not doing anything that can lead

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to violence in the womb or lead women to want

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to commit violence in the womb. It's very bad for

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humanity obviously, it's you know, it's killing. It's not good.

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But it's not good for the parents either, Like I was,

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it's just regardless of what the law says, work to

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protect women and children and family units, and you know

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what that means, you know, having proper relations at the

714
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,400
proper times and in the proper ways and being giving

715
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:35,159
to your sexual partner, ideally in marriage.

716
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, when I read that David Grolls story, that

717
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:39,639
David Girls story, and if you saw.

718
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: That, oh my husband just told me about that. Yeah,

719
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,679
I was like, can you explain it? You should explain.

720
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: Yes. So, David Groll is the uh is the leader

721
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,599
of the Foo Fighter is a very you know, famous

722
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:51,400
rock band. He used to be in Nirvana, a very

723
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,159
famous rock band. And he's been married for a while. Actually,

724
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:55,760
I think it's something like twenty years. He has a

725
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,199
bunch of kids, like three or four kids, I'm not sure.

726
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:02,079
And he announced that he a that he had straight

727
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,360
from his marriage, and that a woman had given birth

728
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,360
to a child, and that he was going to help

729
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,920
raise that child and try to be a dad to

730
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,199
them while trying to make it up to his family. Now, obviously,

731
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,599
cheating on your wife is a terrible thing to do.

732
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:16,880
It's terrible for your family and all that. But I

733
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,400
was happy. I mean, I thought it was a good

734
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,360
How many times do women like that maybe just go

735
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,480
and get an abortion or pay you know, or a

736
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:25,639
rock star. And I don't know what happened behind the scenes,

737
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:27,159
but I was happy. That. You know, I think it's

738
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:31,000
if that happened, it's terrible, but we do need to

739
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:33,800
compound one tragedy with another one that is even worse.

740
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,400
So I was hating that this child.

741
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: Was born and I was thinking about this. It's he

742
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,599
got caught basically doing something a lot of people do,

743
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:44,159
which is straying on their marriage. And so the problem

744
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,599
is not that a child was conceived or born. But

745
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:49,280
that's kind of what I'm just talking about. You know,

746
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,760
we have these The guy who's heading up the anti

747
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,039
toxic masculinity program for Kamala Harris is Doug em Hooff,

748
00:41:56,519 --> 00:42:01,119
who impregnated his children's teacher also, so I think she

749
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,440
was a She was kind of a part time nanny

750
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,199
for them as well. And then we we are you know,

751
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,440
the reports that the baby was ex was killed because

752
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:12,920
because of this situation, this was extra marital.

753
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,039
Speaker 1: Oh really, that is very well.

754
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, you know, she obviously signed

755
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:23,239
an NDA, so you will never totally know. But that's

756
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,840
exactly the type of thing I'm saying. So don't make

757
00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:30,639
innocent children suffer because you have you have messed up,

758
00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:33,280
But also live your life in a way that doesn't

759
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,920
lead to stuff like that. I'm sorry I sound so preachy,

760
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,039
but I'm just saying like, it's like, it's so much

761
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:40,159
more important than what the law says, is that we

762
00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:46,079
support men and women informing healthy family units and sustaining them.

763
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:49,119
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times I've gotten emails

764
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:54,079
or tweets or people tell me like, it's bad politics.

765
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:57,519
You know your position is just bad politics. Well I don't.

766
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,679
First of all, I don't care. But be if if

767
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,400
it's bad politics to say that you shouldn't just dispense

768
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:09,760
with completely healthy, viable babies, then what what are we

769
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,119
even doing here? Doesn't you know what I'm saying? Like,

770
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:13,719
what is the point? I don't I care more about

771
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,760
that than I do? Uh? What the tax? You know,

772
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,400
the top marginal tax rate is, which I do care about,

773
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,480
But you know what I mean, who cares about that?

774
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:24,599
Should making good politics, make good arguments. But they're so

775
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:27,519
scared of this issue. Oh man, the row being overturned

776
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:29,119
is the worst thing that ever happened to most of

777
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,760
these Republicans. They just did it was so easy for them,

778
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,039
and now they actually have to talk about policy and

779
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:39,480
they hate it. Yep, all right, let's talk about culture. Okay,

780
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,079
I have a little I have three things here. Do

781
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:45,440
you want to go first? Though? Do you have anything

782
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,159
on going on?

783
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,039
Speaker 2: Oh? I have been traveling since our last podcast. More.

784
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: I love that you were surprised by this. You're like, oh,

785
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,280
we're talking about this. We do now?

786
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,199
Speaker 2: You were going to go first?

787
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,639
Speaker 1: I can for you.

788
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,639
Speaker 2: I Mark and I were space looking out at the

789
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:04,519
Sun Valley Policy Institute in Sun Valley, Idaho. And Mark

790
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:06,119
had been there a bunch as a kid, and I'd

791
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:07,960
been there a few years ago also to speak to

792
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,840
the Sun Valley Policy Institute. But we got to go

793
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,400
together this time, and it was so wonderful. We were

794
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:20,880
staying in a beautiful home north of Sun Valley. I

795
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,719
got to see a beautiful redtail hawk. The nature was

796
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,920
just amazing. And Mark and I celebrated our eighteenth wedding

797
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,400
anniversary while we were there, and we went fly fishing

798
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:32,280
at my request.

799
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: Amazing.

800
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 2: And have you done fly fishing? I'm sure you have.

801
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:39,159
Speaker 1: I like fishing, but I actually I've never done fly fishing.

802
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: Okay, so I grew up fishing with flies, but the

803
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,719
regular Roden rail it's been casting, and I've done a

804
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,639
fair bit of deep sea fishing. But I'd always wanted

805
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:51,519
to fly fish and I never had, And so we

806
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:55,119
went on Silver Creek, which is one of the world's

807
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:57,840
best places to do this, and we did that. I

808
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,440
think you call it float fishing. You wear a large

809
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:05,199
inner tube and waiters and you're just in the river

810
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:10,079
for hours, and it was so awesome, Like I just

811
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:13,360
couldn't believe this was my life. It was so great

812
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:17,960
to see nature this way. It was just gorgeous. There

813
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,639
were hardly any other people out there. And where can

814
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:21,880
I caught five fish?

815
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,559
Speaker 1: Nice? What kind of fish do to catch? There?

816
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: Rainbow and brown? And we each caught at least one

817
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:32,840
rainbow and brown nice and of them, two of them

818
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,280
were sizable, three were definitely not sizable. It's all catch

819
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,320
and release. But it was so fun and I want

820
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,440
to do it again. Felt great. I was cold in

821
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,440
my body in ways that I hadn't realized were possible

822
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,320
once I got it, Like you don't get wet, but

823
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:53,679
it's like a it's like a dampness cold. And it

824
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,840
was pretty warm out So.

825
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: Anyway, I love Idaho. It was out there. I spoke

826
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,559
out there, but I'm not sure. I think there's another

827
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:06,519
thing tank maybe, but anyway, Yeah, it's gorgeous. That's great.

828
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:10,480
I'm jealous love phishing. Did you watch anything or on

829
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:12,239
the plane? Nothing?

830
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 2: I did read. David Brock has a new book out

831
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,639
called Stench or something. It's about how all of these

832
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,599
non left wingers on the Supreme Court are destroying the court.

833
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,639
And it was really unimpressive. There was nothing in there

834
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:31,079
that hadn't already been like said and debunked years ago

835
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:32,760
David Brock.

836
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: I watched a couple of things. I watched a documentary

837
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,480
on David Chase, the person who the showrunner for the

838
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,480
Sopranos and person who came up with the story parter,

839
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,840
and it's I thought it was super interesting. He's an

840
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,239
interesting guy. He's this older guy. He's very cranky, but

841
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,199
like very straightforward him, very honest and just talked about

842
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,039
his own life and how it resembled the show. So

843
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,760
I that's a recommend for me. Did you see the

844
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,960
email I got where a person went a teed off

845
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,880
on me for paragraph after paragraph I recommended Wolverine.

846
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm so sorry, I have to do it now.

847
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: That's all right, So I just want to before you

848
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,320
read this preface all this by saying I told everyone

849
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,400
that it was not a work of art, that it

850
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,719
wasn't Lawrence of Arabia or anything, and that it was

851
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,440
just a goofy thing, and if you didn't really know

852
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:30,000
all the inside jokes about Marvel, that you probably wouldn't

853
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:31,719
enjoy it. I mean, I think that I put that

854
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:32,400
warning up.

855
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I have just watched Deadpool and Wolverine at the

856
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,000
recommendation of David Harsani like a mother, I use his

857
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:43,199
full name to let him know he's in trouble. This

858
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,880
movie was the most boring, worthless nonsense I've seen in years,

859
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,159
at least when I end up watching other terrible Marvel movies,

860
00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:52,480
they can get so bad they're entertaining to make fun of.

861
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,039
Why did I have to sit through Wolverine moping about

862
00:47:55,079 --> 00:48:00,679
his past repeatedly? It goes on and on. Poin is

863
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,599
that all that supposed love letter nonsense was a farce

864
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:06,480
and borderline insulting to the actors and fans of these characters.

865
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:09,119
I'm sure now nobody is going to be talking about

866
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:12,480
or remembering anything to do with this film. I hated

867
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,800
this movie, and I now understand why Molly's husband. Mark

868
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,199
will not take recommendations from David. David, please, I beg

869
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,519
you stop being taken in by obvious bad movies. Watch

870
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:27,079
Triangle of Sadness. Molly loves that movie. Sorry we should.

871
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:29,400
I loved that, even remembering that I had been asking

872
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,079
people to watch it so I could discuss. I just

873
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:35,280
wanted to discuss the movie with people, and nobody watched

874
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:35,760
it for me.

875
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: It's funny that I have. I always I see that

876
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:41,320
Triangle of Sadness on my list. I forget what, and

877
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,440
I'm always like, I should watch this, and I'm like,

878
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,280
it's called the Triangle of Sadness.

879
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: There's probably never a good time to watch it. It

880
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,679
is so weird. Will Oh I did start watching during

881
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,239
my rowing that Anatomy of a Fall.

882
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,079
Speaker 1: Have you seen that anatomy? Oh? No, I won't watch.

883
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,800
That's the guy who went up there during the Academy Awards,

884
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:04,079
the Oscars and gave some like anti Israel speech.

885
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 2: Problem, wasn't that the guy who did like who ironically

886
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,079
enough or oddly enough, had done the movie about the

887
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:12,920
German prison guards.

888
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's not this, that's not this. I don't know.

889
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:17,360
I might be confused. I'm sorry if I I mean, do.

890
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: We really need to hear him down? I feel like

891
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,960
all of Hollywood is probably full of all.

892
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: Right, Anatomy of the Fall? What's that about?

893
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: Well, I'm only just starting it, but it had gotten

894
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,719
a lot of really good reviews in the I think

895
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,880
that lead actress had been nominated for her part. And

896
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:38,360
it just begins with a husband ending up dead and

897
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,320
we're now at the police inquisition level. But it's French,

898
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,480
and I think they're in Germany.

899
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:46,559
Speaker 1: No, right, sounds like something i'd watch.

900
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,639
Speaker 2: It was not a very movie set up, but I

901
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,079
just I don't know what's going on yet.

902
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: Someone was murdered, so it's gonna be a mystery. I

903
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,320
speaking of mysteries, I finally watched that Glass Onion movie,

904
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,920
the second one with like Edward. Yeah, I did not

905
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:04,760
love it. I didn't hate it. That was okay exactly.

906
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:07,760
But the thing is the Daniel Craig character. I mean,

907
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,039
these are just basically Agatha Christie movies and novels, the

908
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:15,760
same setup. The thing is like they he's the most

909
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,519
interesting character and they barely spend time with him. You know,

910
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:22,679
It's like Hercule Piro is, Like it's funny to watch him,

911
00:50:23,199 --> 00:50:26,199
observe put it together. They don't do that anyway, so

912
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,440
that I think was the flaw on that I saw.

913
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,199
There's a third one coming out soon. And then lastly,

914
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,920
my wife and I went to Richmond, Virginia to go

915
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,239
to the Van Go Immersion show. I don't know if

916
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,000
you've heard of this. It was a complete ripoff in

917
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:46,679
my opinion, and no one should go see it. It's

918
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,199
a non recommend from me. It's just they basically project

919
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,719
project some Vango stuff up on a wall and put

920
00:50:55,159 --> 00:50:58,360
like his biography that they took from Wikipedia up on

921
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,320
the wall for you to read. And you know, it's

922
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,079
like fifty bucks to go. Maybe if you have kids

923
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,239
and you want to introduce them to art, they maybe

924
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:07,599
it's okay. But as if you're an adult who has

925
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:09,719
any who's been to a real museum, I think you

926
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:16,559
would find this really or okay, good to know and uninspiring.

927
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:23,639
And that's it for me. Hopefully next week there won't

928
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:28,840
be any assassination attempt to talk about, but until then,

929
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,119
be lovers of freedom and anxious for the frame