1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Hey, if you like me and you get in the 2 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,000 car and you're wondering what can I listen to? When 3 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,480 it comes to a podcast, the same old thing is 4 00:00:05,599 --> 00:00:09,039 every day. That's why we created arow dot net aar 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,880 r oe dot Net. One of the hot features that voice. 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,560 I've spent ten years with those that have been featured 7 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:19,039 on NBC's The Voice. Go back, re equate yourself to 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,039 the conversation, and relive those moments before they became what 9 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:27,160 they became. That voice only on ero dot net a 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,159 r r oe dot net. Enjoy your exploration. Good morning, 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,399 n Eileen. How are you doing. 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: Hi, I can hear you loud and clear. I'm doing great, Jero. 13 00:00:37,759 --> 00:00:38,399 Nice to meet you. 14 00:00:38,719 --> 00:00:40,759 Speaker 1: I am so excited to share a conversation with you 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,679 because I spent my childhood tipping over doghouses and thinking 16 00:00:43,719 --> 00:00:45,799 it was a spaceship and you actually got to do it. 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: Well, good for you. That's how we grow the future 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,920 astronauts is by doing crazy things like you just mentioned. 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,759 Good for you. 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,719 Speaker 1: Well, what you have done here is that you've opened 21 00:00:57,799 --> 00:01:00,280 up the door for so many people. Because the kids 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,240 in my neighborhood all want space, and I just look 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,040 at them and I go, you gotta be kidding me. 24 00:01:05,079 --> 00:01:06,680 I just thought this was one of my things when 25 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,799 I was a kid. But that's all they talk about, 26 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,879 that's all they dream about and what they do up 27 00:01:10,879 --> 00:01:14,079 in that sky and things like space Woman opens up 28 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:14,840 that platform. 29 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, space is all about the future, and 30 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,959 that's why I see young people, you know, everywhere, even 31 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,719 around the world. They're motivated by space. You know, some 32 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,120 of its star wars and the you know, the cool 33 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:29,200 science fiction stuff that we see. But there's a reality 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,400 side of spaceflight, and that's yes, our NASA astronauts and 35 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:36,400 now we have commercial astronauts and more and more people 36 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:39,200 are having the opportunity to fly in space. And for 37 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,359 the kids, it's going to be much more likely for 38 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,359 them than my generation that they'll have a chance to 39 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:48,680 go into space someday. Even they might be able to 40 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,439 go as a tourist, they might be able to go 41 00:01:50,439 --> 00:01:54,640 as a professional astronaut. Because space it's getting cheaper, it's 42 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,000 getting safer as time goes on, and you know, still 43 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,280 it's about exploration and that I think that it inspires 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,079 the kids. 45 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,239 Speaker 1: With your book Through the Glass Ceiling to the Stars, 46 00:02:05,319 --> 00:02:07,120 and that's one of those I've always wondered to you 47 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,120 know that, when you're up there and you're looking at 48 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,919 that gigantic, vast array of space, do you ever go 49 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,840 to a state like Montana that's're known for the big 50 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:17,240 Sky country and still see the beauty of what we've 51 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,039 got here on Earth. 52 00:02:19,479 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: I honestly think I see more beauty here on Earth. Well, 53 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,240 having the experience of being in space. The first thing 54 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,680 I want to say is the Earth is round. It 55 00:02:28,719 --> 00:02:31,560 is not flat, is some people are trying to tell me. 56 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:35,159 The space station and goes around the Earth once every 57 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,680 ninety minutes, and we get to see this beautiful planet 58 00:02:38,719 --> 00:02:41,879 that we live on. Earth is it's a water planet. 59 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,400 It's blue and white in probably ninety percent of the 60 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,639 time when you look out the window, you see blue 61 00:02:47,719 --> 00:02:52,080 or white. On some clear days you can see the continents, 62 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,400 you can see cities. You mostly see like bright desert, 63 00:02:57,039 --> 00:02:59,960 and just the beauty the planet we live on a 64 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:02,960 like a beautiful oasis. Because when you turn and look 65 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,319 the other way, you see the darkness of space and 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,680 how much is out there that we don't know about, 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,080 And you look back at Earth and you're like, man, 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,479 I want to go back there after I do my 69 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,319 tour in space. I want to go back to Earth. 70 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,439 But the other thing, you know, being able to travel, 71 00:03:18,479 --> 00:03:21,599 like you mentioned looking at the Big Sky in Montana, 72 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:24,840 and I also want to travel around the world and 73 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:27,400 see the places that I looked at from space. And 74 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,639 the last thing I'll say about that is the history. 75 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,360 Is you look back on Earth, especially the Middle East, 76 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:35,400 which is almost always clear, you think about the history 77 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:37,439 that took place, you know, kind of the cradle of 78 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,520 civilization and all the biblical history and all the wars 79 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,759 that took place down there, and you think about I mean, 80 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,520 I think you become more of a strategic thinker, and 81 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:54,319 you think more about humanity and our place in the universe. 82 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:57,280 So I don't want to get like too overly philosophical, 83 00:03:57,319 --> 00:04:00,280 but that's kind of what happens to a person they 84 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,560 travel in space. It really changes you, I think for 85 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:03,000 the better. 86 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,439 Speaker 1: Doesn't that make you a time traveler or do you 87 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:07,879 feel like an archaeologist when you go that high up 88 00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:11,159 and you can see everything, You've got a view that 89 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:12,719 most of us only get pictures of. 90 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, when I was a little kid, I used 91 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,480 to love reading science fiction and I read I mean, 92 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,040 I checked these books out of the library and I 93 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,639 read science fiction. I wanted to be like a space traveler. 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,680 I would. Back in those days, it was Buck Rogers, 95 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,959 you know, I wanted to be book Rodgers. But now 96 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,879 that I'm older and I have been in space for 97 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,079 some strange reason, I'm interested in history and I just 98 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,639 want to read about, you know, I'm different periods of time, 99 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,759 you know, near history, you know, maybe the early days 100 00:04:40,759 --> 00:04:44,360 of the United States, but also like the Roman Empire, 101 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:47,600 and you know what made them so big and great? 102 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:50,759 What made them fail? And you know, just learning about 103 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,560 like biblical history and how humanity like spread around planet 104 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,079 Earth and you know, why were we? Why are we explorers? 105 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,079 So I think it makes me a little more philosophical. 106 00:05:02,519 --> 00:05:05,399 Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Eileen Collins coming 107 00:05:05,519 --> 00:05:10,319 up next. The name of the documentary is Space Woman. 108 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,319 We are back with astronaut Eileen Collins. What does a 109 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:16,399 young adult have to do to get ready to go 110 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:19,199 to Mars? Because this is not going to take modern 111 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,279 day learning. It's going to be something that's very futuristic 112 00:05:22,319 --> 00:05:24,399 and far out there. But what can they do as 113 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:26,839 students now? Because I want them to be like you. 114 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:30,319 I want them to take that spacecraft over to Mars 115 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,360 and not be an AI technically connected kind of thing. 116 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so this is a really important message that 117 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,120 I it's also a very simple message. Go to school, yep, 118 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,720 listen to your teacher, do your homework, Yes, do your homework. 119 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,839 And for the for the kids that are older, like 120 00:05:47,879 --> 00:05:50,920 when you get in high school, take math all the 121 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:53,759 way through twelfth grade. And I know many schools make 122 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,800 it optional, but math teaches you how to solve problems 123 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:01,680 and the way you kind of learn mechanically how to 124 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,040 solve problems in math class. But is you that will 125 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:08,680 transfer to everyday life because you will always face problems 126 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,519 no matter, it's just a fact of life. Do not 127 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:14,839 run away from your problems. But techniques that you learned 128 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,920 to identify a problem, describe it. What are the tools 129 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,680 to fix that problem? What order do you put them in? 130 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,720 That helps you? Now your question about going on to 131 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,399 be an astronaut and you want to travel in space, 132 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:32,439 I would say, take your math and science courses and 133 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,439 also read books. Our kids today they're scrolling on their phones, 134 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:39,399 you know, scroll, scroll, squirrells. I tell them scrolling makes 135 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:42,879 you dumb. Books make you smart. And also these kids 136 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,199 have anxiety, and I got well, that's because you're constantly 137 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,160 on your phone. Get a book. Goes in for boys 138 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,120 and girls, men and women. Get a book. Go sit 139 00:06:52,199 --> 00:06:55,519 somewhere quiet and get lost in a story. You know, 140 00:06:55,639 --> 00:06:58,560 something that will help your imagination, will help you become 141 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,639 a more creative person. And you know AI is going 142 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,560 to be out there. I think we need to use 143 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,639 AI for what it's good for, but it cannot affect. 144 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 It can't take over our decision making. What we need 145 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:13,279 is humans. We need to be make our own decisions. 146 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: What is the magic that Hannah Berryman put into this space? Woman? 147 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:20,319 In the way of that there's such a connection. Did 148 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,879 you feel like that you were standing with your doppelganger 149 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,160 because it's almost like she knew you as you know you. 150 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. So Hannah and I are two very different people. 151 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:34,319 So Hannah Berryman is our director. We work together for 152 00:07:34,639 --> 00:07:37,439 you know, well over a year putting this together. So 153 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,000 Hannah's more creative, you know. She she is the one 154 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,399 that brought the emotion into the film. Now me, Eileen, 155 00:07:44,519 --> 00:07:48,519 I'm more of a I'm going to say, objective, procedural 156 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:51,319 kind of person. I wanted to let's tell the story 157 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:53,800 of the four missions. This happened, that happened. We did this, 158 00:07:53,879 --> 00:07:56,279 We did that, you know, these people were involved. But 159 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,600 Hannah brought in like the families. How do the families 160 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:02,959 feel when their loved one launches into space after this 161 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:05,759 terrible Shuttle accident? You know, how do the kids feel? 162 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,399 How did the spouses feel? And so I mean they 163 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,040 hired a composer that wrote original music, and the way 164 00:08:14,079 --> 00:08:16,879 the music is edited into the scenes really brings out 165 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:19,560 the emotion of what is it like to be an 166 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,319 astronaut and to be a family member? What is it 167 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:24,319 like to be a flight director? You know, what is 168 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:26,680 it like to be you know, we interviewed my prime 169 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:30,319 flight director, Paul Hill. We interviewed one of the Shuttle 170 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:35,200 program managers, Wayne Hale. Both of them have very interesting 171 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,480 personalities and their perspective on you know, what does it 172 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,720 like to fight? You know, my last flight was the 173 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:45,039 what we call the return to flight mission after an accident, 174 00:08:45,159 --> 00:08:48,120 and that does get I want to say, kind of 175 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,159 a front and center attention in the film towards the end, 176 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,559 and it kind of brings out the I want to say, 177 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:59,960 the emotion of being an astronaut and being a family member, 178 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,639 of which I'm not a very emotional person, and that's 179 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,559 why we needed Hannah to be able to describe that 180 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,960 feeling because I have trouble describing it, but Hannah did it. 181 00:09:10,279 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Wow. Where can people go to find out more about 182 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,639 everything that you guys are doing? I mean everything, because 183 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,759 I believe that we're at that part in our life 184 00:09:17,799 --> 00:09:20,879 where everybody needs an inspiration or a push forward and 185 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:21,919 you're helping to do that. 186 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I would say the easiest thing to do 187 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,879 is through our website, or you can just type spacewoman, 188 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,440 but Spacewoman dot film will take you to our website. 189 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,440 It shows you around the country the places that we're 190 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,919 going to be showing. It's also going to have some 191 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:41,360 cities that will be added. But if it's not nearby 192 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,600 or you can't make it, it will be going digital 193 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:47,000 where you could. You could buy it digitally in probably 194 00:09:47,039 --> 00:09:49,600 the June time frame, and then it will be streaming 195 00:09:49,639 --> 00:09:52,639 if you want to rent it. It'll be streaming after that. 196 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,519 And I think it's best in the theater, but the 197 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,720 story's great no matter how you watch it, and I 198 00:09:58,759 --> 00:09:59,720 know you're going to love it. 199 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,759 Speaker 1: Wow, you got to come back to this show anytime 200 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:03,679 in the future. Eileen, the door is always going to 201 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,440 be open for you. 202 00:10:05,919 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I love talking about space, and I 203 00:10:08,039 --> 00:10:11,519 love inspiring people of all ages to learn about space. 204 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,799 And I'm glad we did Spacewoman to actually bring the 205 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,960 mission and bring the feeling of it to people so 206 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,840 they can understand. Thank you very much. 207 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? 208 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,799 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks a lot.