1 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Well, it is my great pleasure to welcome to our 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,879 podcast this week a first time guest on the podcast. 3 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:11,359 It's the IBF Junior Wealth'sweight World Champion Richards Hitchens and Richie, 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,800 you have an important fight coming up, your first title defense. 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,120 You're taking on George Cambosas Junior, the former lightweight champion. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,320 You'll fight in the main event of the Matchroom card 7 00:00:19,399 --> 00:00:21,359 on his own at the Madison Square Guard Dinner at 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,559 June fourteenth. Welcome to the show. Thank you very much 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,039 for doing this. 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,039 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much for having me. 11 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: It's my pleasure. Before we get into the fight with George, 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,159 I wanted to just talk a little bit about your fight. 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,079 When you won the title, you became a world champion. 14 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:37,640 Go back to December and you scored a decision victory 15 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:40,359 over Liam Paro. It was a big step up for you, 16 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:42,159 it seemed to me based on the opponents you had 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,159 faced previous to that. He was the champion, he was 18 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,399 twenty five to zero. Tell me about your confidence going 19 00:00:48,439 --> 00:00:51,399 into that fight, because anybody that follows you knows that 20 00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:52,520 you exude confidence. 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,799 Speaker 3: I knew he was it on my level, and I 22 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,719 knew that a lot of the people were looking like, oh, 23 00:00:58,799 --> 00:01:01,840 you know, he lost the first four rounds or something 24 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,719 like that, and his coach woke him up. 25 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:05,879 Speaker 2: You look at the fight, even the. 26 00:01:05,879 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: Rounds that I was losing in the early rounds, I 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,920 wasn' even getting hit, and I felt like, you know, 28 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,079 Liam Perrol was knowing I love. 29 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: I felt like he was a novice fighter compared to me. 30 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: And I think that in that fight I showed that, 31 00:01:13,719 --> 00:01:17,079 you know, once I, once I took the took the 32 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:19,040 data that I need to take in it was easy work. 33 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,920 And I don't think he went a round from third 34 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,760 round up and up. 35 00:01:22,879 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: So when the fight was over and you heard it 36 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,480 to split decision, how surprised you are, because, like you said, 37 00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:32,640 I thought, you know, he he did well early. It 38 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,159 took you a few rounds to settle in, but eventually 39 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,040 it was pretty much all hitchings. 40 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, you know, it ain't no surprise 41 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,879 that happened to me. For the Genous Men fight, it 42 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,000 was literally two judges had it literally like I think 43 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,519 Genas win is maybe at most was two rounds, and 44 00:01:48,519 --> 00:01:51,359 a whole judge told another judge had me winning at 45 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,519 most only two rounds. So in boxing I just feel 46 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,159 like with things like that happened and scorecards like that happened, 47 00:01:57,159 --> 00:01:59,519 they needed to be somebody like watching and you know, 48 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,079 like paying attention to saying why was your scorecard this? 49 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:04,799 Speaker 2: Or what's this? 50 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,719 Speaker 3: Because you know, judges, you know, can mess up a 51 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:10,599 whole fight or life, you know, doing with the wrong decision. 52 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,479 I don't think that that's okay for the sport and 53 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,240 I think that it's fucked up. 54 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: But God, willn't you know. 55 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: The judges, the other two judges had it right. And 56 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,360 what's crazy about it was one of them was the 57 00:02:21,439 --> 00:02:23,439 Australian judge that scored it for me too. 58 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, So when you heard and the new IBF champion, 59 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,599 that's the moment that every young fighter dreams about. Can 60 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,719 you tell me or remember what it was like when 61 00:02:33,759 --> 00:02:36,599 you heard that those words that every every boxer wants 62 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:36,919 to hear. 63 00:02:37,439 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: It was so real. It was like whoa, we did it? 64 00:02:40,479 --> 00:02:42,479 Like it's like, yo, we did it. 65 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: It's a great feeling, you know, because it takes doubts. 66 00:02:45,039 --> 00:02:46,879 It's more of a now, it's more of a it's 67 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:48,759 more of a knowing in your head. It's like the 68 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,400 for your first national tournament you don't know if you 69 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,319 can win it. And you win your first national and 70 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,520 you go to the second and third Nationals, it's like, yeah, 71 00:02:55,599 --> 00:02:57,319 I know what to do to win this. Like you 72 00:02:57,319 --> 00:02:59,159 know how it feels to go to a tournament. You 73 00:02:59,199 --> 00:03:01,039 know what it feels to compete on that level now. 74 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: So I think. 75 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: That that's just all it is, is just about you know, 76 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,759 knowing what it takes to compete in boxing is levels. 77 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,599 You know, you got your first TV fight, might fight, 78 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,960 your first undefeated fighter, first world title fight, and you 79 00:03:12,039 --> 00:03:15,439 go on and obviously, and then then you get to 80 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:19,039 a level of boxing where a fight is just a fight, and. 81 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Well, you're checking all those boxes that you mentioned, You've 82 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,800 done those settings, and now you're about to check another box. 83 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,240 This is going to be your first world title defense, 84 00:03:26,719 --> 00:03:29,199 so that that's always a big mark on anybody's career. 85 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,319 But not only is it your first defense, but you're 86 00:03:31,319 --> 00:03:32,919 going to be doing this at home in New York. 87 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,599 You're a Brooklyn kid. You're fighting in Madison Square Garden Theater. 88 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:39,319 You fought a plenty of your fights in New York 89 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:41,639 through your career. I saw you many of your early 90 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,120 fights at Barclay Center. Those types of fights when you're 91 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,360 coming up. But now you're there, You're the A side, 92 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,719 you're the main event, you're defending the title. Can you 93 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:51,199 tell me a little bit about what it means to 94 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,680 you to have gone through the road that you just 95 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:56,080 talked about and now get to the point where you're 96 00:03:56,199 --> 00:03:58,680 not only defending a title but doing it in the 97 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,599 main event at home. 98 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: It feels great, uh, you know, defending my title? Uh 99 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,400 at home? You know, just long road, long, long world. 100 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: I remember going to the Barking Center seeing Danny Jacobs, 101 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,240 Adrian Barna, Tank Davis, you know, in the Barky Center 102 00:04:17,639 --> 00:04:19,240 headline and big cards in New York. 103 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: You know, then to the current time when you. 104 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: Have guys like Edgar Blinga bringing headlines to New York City, 105 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:28,399 and then every time there was a big fight in 106 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:29,879 New York, I'll be like, damn, I can't wait to 107 00:04:29,959 --> 00:04:32,600 be the headline. But then I would have never doubted 108 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,680 my first headline in New Yorker be has the world 109 00:04:34,759 --> 00:04:35,759 champion bringing. 110 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: The title back home. That's like even bigger for me. 111 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:39,759 Speaker 3: And I feel like the city, you know, the city 112 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,160 haven't had a world champion and so long, and for 113 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,360 me to be a world champion. 114 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,399 Speaker 2: I am. 115 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: I'm from New York. I'm really I'm really a New Yorker. 116 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:49,879 I'm flaing boyant. You know, I got charisma, you know, 117 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,439 So I think that it's even It brings even more 118 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,839 energy and more uh more spark to the fight fans 119 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,519 from New York. So I think it's big for me, 120 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,240 you know, uh just just to see everybody. A lot 121 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,639 of people that doubted me, a lot of people that 122 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,800 you know, overlooked me. They didn't really think I would 123 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,839 get to I was getting to. But the people that 124 00:05:08,959 --> 00:05:11,120 knew talent, the people that knew what I was capable 125 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:14,040 of and what my potential, they're not surprised. 126 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: But it's just finally, you know, we're here, let's part, 127 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:17,519 let's celebrate. So it's big. 128 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: How how hard is it going to be to sort of, 129 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,759 uh keep your emotions under control in the circumstances you're 130 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,959 you're you know you're I don't think it's a secret 131 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:27,399 to say you're a little bit of an emotional guy 132 00:05:27,439 --> 00:05:29,959 in terms of like your outspoken and you don't have 133 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,920 a problem speaking your mind, but when it comes to 134 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,519 fight night, you know you got to kind of control 135 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,519 the emotions. How is he going to do that, you know, 136 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:39,399 given how excited you are about the the scenario of 137 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:40,720 being at home and defending. 138 00:05:40,399 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: The title, being in the ring is being in the ring, 139 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,720 and I'm I think three steps ahead. 140 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: It ain't. This ain't a do a dom movement. 141 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:53,639 Speaker 3: There'll be another time to headline and another big fight 142 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,480 another time, another time. So it's just another day of boxing. 143 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,600 This is a small card, it's not that big. It's 144 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:02,639 not a big opponent. Is a title defense? Was George 145 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,120 Campbose's You're training extremely hard, but it's not a crazy 146 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,399 moment for me. Is that a fucking like Yankee Stadium, 147 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:13,279 eighty thousand met like had it belts on the line, 148 00:06:13,399 --> 00:06:16,079 hundred million turkey giving me the gold gold belt like? 149 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:18,720 And to me it's like, I know, I know the 150 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,160 places I'm going to Another day, another dollar. 151 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: So you mentioned about sort of at some points in 152 00:06:23,879 --> 00:06:26,000 your career, a lot of people didn't know you, maybe 153 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,800 overlooked you. You had been a little bit inactive. Even 154 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,560 when you were boxing with PBC. It wasn't in the 155 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:34,399 higher profile type of cards, or at least in terms 156 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:37,839 of your exposure on those cards. In twenty twenty two, 157 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,079 when you guys parted ways with PBC and you went 158 00:06:41,079 --> 00:06:44,199 and you signed with your manager, Keith Connolly. He brought 159 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,920 you to Eddie Hearn. You guys did a deal there 160 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,240 and ever since then, you know, you've been pretty active 161 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,439 relatively speaking. You've been fighting your two fights a year. 162 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:54,959 You've gotten exposure, You've gotten obviously the opportunity to fight 163 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,439 for the title. You won the title, And I'm wondering 164 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,560 what what is it meant that linking up with Keith Man, 165 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,480 because to me, it seems like that really changed the 166 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:05,800 trajectory of your career in terms of getting not only 167 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:07,399 opportunity but exposure. 168 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it taged my career. 169 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: It was a move I wish I would have did 170 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,839 a year earlier or two years earlier before that. But 171 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:16,800 everything happens for a reason. You know, a lot of 172 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,279 people around the New York area is something you need 173 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:19,639 to get with Keith Conley. You need to get with 174 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,920 Keith Conley. And I see it the things he was doing. 175 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,439 You know, Egar Balga heard about his track Seet with 176 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,639 Danny Jacobs, and I just always need a level I 177 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,800 was on. So I said to myself, if he could 178 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,560 do that with those fighters, I couldn't imagine what me 179 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,879 and him could do together. And I told he told me, 180 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:38,000 we need some time to catch up. We're gonna get 181 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,959 you a few fights, and we're gonna bring some structure 182 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,600 to your career. 183 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna and I'm to get on my job. You 184 00:07:43,519 --> 00:07:44,959 do as long as you do your job. 185 00:07:45,399 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: This is what uh, this is the plan, and everything 186 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:50,839 is going to according to as plan. I think that uh, 187 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:54,879 he's a manager, that he's he's about his business. He's uh, 188 00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:58,120 he's a shrewd businessman. And I'm a hard work and 189 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,160 I'm a talented special fighter. So I think that is 190 00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:01,480 that we could do in the sport, the box and 191 00:08:02,399 --> 00:08:05,600 on the business side, and as far as you know, 192 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,120 the legacy side, I think it's gonna be major. So 193 00:08:08,399 --> 00:08:10,879 I'm just excited for I'm just excited for you guys 194 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,439 to sit back and just watch. 195 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: And all he said to me that you know you're not. 196 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: We have some time to catch up to your peers, 197 00:08:17,839 --> 00:08:20,519 but once you catch up, we take off. 198 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: So now this is the point where I'm building my resume. 199 00:08:23,279 --> 00:08:25,839 Speaker 3: I'm building my portfolio to catch up with the til 200 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,680 femos and Devin Hany's the guys that been here. 201 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: Before me, and. 202 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, once I get once, once I get to that 203 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,360 even playing field with them, and my name is just 204 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:36,480 as big as them. 205 00:08:36,639 --> 00:08:37,159 Speaker 2: It is lit. 206 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: So you you mentioned about you're fighting cambosis. You said, Oh, 207 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,320 it's not that big of a fight, you know, Uh, 208 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:46,360 And and I just wonder you've been outspoken about cambosis. 209 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:48,639 You guys have had plenty of back and forth with 210 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,679 each other on your social media and then the build 211 00:08:51,759 --> 00:08:53,960 up to the fight, I get the feeling, you know, 212 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,960 you kind of don't like each other. George has always 213 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,879 been a guy to talk about his opponents. What is it? 214 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: Uh? 215 00:09:00,759 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: What is it that annoys you about him? 216 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:02,639 Speaker 2: What is it? 217 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: What is it? Is it more than just hyping up 218 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:04,679 the fight? 219 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: Nah? I just feel like he just think like I'm 220 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,919 just like a regular guy. 221 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:11,759 Speaker 3: I don't like when fighters like try to downplay me, 222 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:12,799 down play my skills. 223 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,799 Speaker 2: I take that very personal. So I think that he 224 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:17,759 don't know what's in front of him, and I think. 225 00:09:17,639 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: That it's not about the crowd or da da da, 226 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,840 Like I'm gonna make a movie on him, like I'm 227 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:25,960 gonna show if George kmpbos is, if he don't come 228 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,679 in there and prove that he's on an elite level 229 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,840 of box and if he don't come in there, I 230 00:09:29,879 --> 00:09:32,399 Am going to show him that he's a fucking bump. 231 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,879 Speaker 2: And I believe he's a bump. So if he's the. 232 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: Guy that I'm watching on TV, he's the guy that 233 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,080 I'm seeing as in front of Devin Haines. 234 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:41,519 Speaker 2: If he comes in as that same guy, it's going 235 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,799 to be a messy nightman, and I can guarantee that. 236 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,879 Speaker 1: So he's back in the same building at the theater 237 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:49,559 where he scored his biggest win when he became the 238 00:09:49,639 --> 00:09:52,679 unified lightweight champion against t Fimo in a huge upset. 239 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,600 That was back in twenty twenty one. He hasn't really 240 00:09:55,639 --> 00:09:57,639 done anything since then, to be honest. I mean, I 241 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,360 got nothing against George, but he's two and three since then. 242 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:01,960 A lot of folks would say he's one and four 243 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,799 because a lot of people thought he lost that fight 244 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,440 against Hughes. He got wiped out two times by Haney, 245 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,519 who you mentioned. He got knocked out in a one 246 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,919 sided fight by Lomachenko. He's had one lower level win 247 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,399 at one hundred and forty, and I wonder do you 248 00:10:13,399 --> 00:10:15,919 think he even deserves to fight for the world title 249 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,840 because he hasn't really done anything at one forty and 250 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:21,159 the end of his days at one thirty five were 251 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,039 certainly nothing to write home about. 252 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: Camp Boss has been a bum before that, he's been 253 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,320 a bum. He's he beat to a female Lopez to 254 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,759 a femal Lopez is a talented fighter. Like I said before, 255 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:37,000 he's a talented fighter. But IQ wise is how I 256 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,480 look at boxing. You got guys that I have two 257 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:41,720 little kids walking to the gym right now, and I 258 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:44,159 tell him both to throw one two. One might throw 259 00:10:44,159 --> 00:10:46,559 it faster, one might throw a slow, One might throw 260 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,360 it fast and harder. 261 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: One might throw. 262 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: A slower, slower and not that hard. That don't mean 263 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,919 the other fighter is a better fighter. Just mean that 264 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,080 fighters is a talented fire see a female show. He's 265 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,399 a talented fighter with boxing experience. But as far as IQ, 266 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,919 as far as the ship that he needs for the 267 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,799 ship that he he needs to like compete at a 268 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,200 highigh level of boxing, he don't have that. He showed 269 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,919 that since the amateur days. If your guy as, if 270 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:14,919 your guy at, if your guy at like any guy at. 271 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:16,879 Speaker 2: Is not me, He's not. 272 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,399 Speaker 1: He's not. 273 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: He's not. It's two different styles. 274 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: Two different to my my body type, my arm, reach, 275 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,320 my speed, my like teer. Female is an athletic, twitchy, 276 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:28,559 fast dude and talented. 277 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: He's not me. 278 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: He's not me, and I noticed for a fact, if 279 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,679 you know boxing, it's not I can make a fight 280 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,919 look way easier than to your female can and and 281 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,159 if you know boxing. 282 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,279 Speaker 2: You you would agree. 283 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: But if for the people that don't know, I'll just 284 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,799 show them it is what it is. You know, like 285 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,919 in boxing, fighters like you gotta prove they so you 286 00:11:48,919 --> 00:11:51,039 know people will listening, Like all right, he says this. 287 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,759 He says that until you get to the Canelos and 288 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:55,039 the Maywether level, then it's like, okay, this guy's been 289 00:11:55,039 --> 00:11:57,279 saying this for years. I mean he's not lying when 290 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,720 he say this, But your female and me is not 291 00:11:59,759 --> 00:12:02,559 the same. I'm a I'm a way better box and 292 00:12:02,639 --> 00:12:03,200 take female. 293 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:05,519 Speaker 1: Well, since you think you're going to win this fight 294 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,639 so easily, I know that you have aspirations for bigger fights. 295 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,120 There was some conversation before this match was made between 296 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:15,600 yourself and Cambosis about you fighting against t Femo. He's 297 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:18,080 the champion in your division, he has a WBO title, 298 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,639 he's the lineal champion, you've got the IBF title, you 299 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,559 are both with Keith Connelly as your management. Is that 300 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:26,320 a fight that you want down the road or like, 301 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,120 what are your aspirations for the so called big fight? 302 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,159 You know at one hundred and forty pounds. 303 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:33,639 Speaker 2: He has plans right now. 304 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: I definitely want to unify with one forty champions, and 305 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,159 then I want to look at one forty seven. Oh, 306 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,600 if I get a big fight, I want to go 307 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,480 to one forty seven. I don't want to stay have 308 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,440 one forty too long, especially with the IBF. I don't 309 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,039 want to hold onto the IBF too long. So I 310 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,519 just want to make the best out the belt and 311 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,000 go up to one forty seven and grab a strap 312 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,200 up there and uh, you know, make big fights up there. 313 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,480 But right now, it's just one fight at a time, 314 00:13:00,799 --> 00:13:02,759 and George Campos is the guy in front of me, 315 00:13:02,879 --> 00:13:05,000 so is the guy we gotta get, you know, passed. 316 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: When you say you don't want to keep the IBF belt, 317 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,960 you specified the sanctioned body. I know there have been 318 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,639 champions of the IBF. The one thing that they don't like. 319 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,759 They love having the world title obviously, but they don't 320 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,080 like that Saturday morning or the day of the fight 321 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:20,559 weight check. That's a ten pound limit. Is that? Is 322 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,960 that why you say that about the idea? 323 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,879 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, they need to change that ship. 324 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: So if you fight a unification fight, they waive that. Yeah, 325 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,360 So is that is that one of the reasons that 326 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:32,879 you'd love to unify? You got other good champions that 327 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,720 wake class po is fighting coming up in July against 328 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:39,080 Mattias who was a former champion, got the very talented 329 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,559 Gary Antoine Russell with the WBA title. Anybody though, any 330 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,159 of those guys tickle your fancy. 331 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: Any of them guys, you Femo is definitely the more 332 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:50,720 high profile fight, the more easier fight to make because 333 00:13:51,159 --> 00:13:54,960 he's with Keith Conley also, and you know with Turkey 334 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,279 now anything is possible. 335 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,519 Speaker 2: So maybe after this fight. 336 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,039 Speaker 3: The win a Playo and Matis is we'll see what 337 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,879 Russell has a title of defense. I think he has 338 00:14:03,919 --> 00:14:07,240 coming up with the Asian guy. So I mean I'm 339 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,559 hearing TiO Fimo has you know, other plans with other fighters, 340 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,679 or we'll just do another defense or you know, well, 341 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:17,720 I don't know, so right now, I can't think too much. 342 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: I gotta box. I gotta box. 343 00:14:19,399 --> 00:14:21,919 Speaker 3: George campbos Is on June fourteenth, and after the Milliam 344 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,600 has done boxing. Uh, we'll figure out what's the next 345 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,519 who the next guy they'll put in front of us? 346 00:14:27,679 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: All right, So just to wrap it up, and with 347 00:14:29,159 --> 00:14:32,080 the fight coming up against camp Boss, you've said that 348 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:34,120 he's a bum. Basically, you've said that you're gonna beat 349 00:14:34,159 --> 00:14:36,279 them easily. I wonder you put yourself in a little 350 00:14:36,279 --> 00:14:38,039 bit of a corner, or even if you go out 351 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,960 there and you win the fight, but maybe it's close, 352 00:14:40,039 --> 00:14:42,440 maybe maybe it's not so dominant. Maybe you have a 353 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,360 little bit of a rough moment that you'll get to 354 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:46,679 win and still be a champ, but you'll emerging that 355 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,720 where people might downgrade you because you didn't live up 356 00:14:48,759 --> 00:14:50,639 to the big boasts that you're making leading into the fight. 357 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: I believe every fight that I fut as a professional dominated, 358 00:14:53,759 --> 00:14:55,759 even in the fight. I think the only fight that 359 00:14:55,799 --> 00:14:58,919 I haven't completely dominant is the Gustavo Lemos fighting. 360 00:14:58,919 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: And if you look at if you really watch that fight, 361 00:15:01,639 --> 00:15:02,320 if you really. 362 00:15:02,159 --> 00:15:05,759 Speaker 3: Watch that fight from fourth round all the way up 363 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,120 to the seventh, seventh, and eighth, before that hiccup, they 364 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,919 were saying hitching is starting to dominate this fight, as 365 00:15:12,919 --> 00:15:15,240 the words the commentator is used and almost obviously called 366 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:16,840 me with the big shot in the eighth and he 367 00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:19,120 got to say he pulled hisself back into the fight 368 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,000 where he took the momentum away from me. 369 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: So I believe in my skill. 370 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: I believe in my skills, and I believe most all 371 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,279 my professional fights I put on dominant performances. Lilian Perrow fight, 372 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,879 they said I was losing from the fourth rounding up, 373 00:15:30,879 --> 00:15:32,679 it was pure of domination. So I believe that with 374 00:15:32,759 --> 00:15:38,679 George camp Boss, I erased the mistakes I've made in 375 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:41,320 them fights where I did lose the momentum for me dominating, 376 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:43,360 and I stay consistent, I will dominate him. 377 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: So I think that at the end of. 378 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,399 Speaker 3: The day, Yeah, it can uh obviously, me talking like 379 00:15:49,399 --> 00:15:50,799 that can fuck. 380 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:53,159 Speaker 2: Fuck uh, you know, fuck my stock up. 381 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: But if I didn't say anything about George kmp bos 382 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,120 and I was just playing on just you know, just 383 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,720 not doing interviews and just you know, keep in the platonic, 384 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:02,440 people still would have had to say what they were said. 385 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,200 They were like, you know, he's he's definitely can't beat 386 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,320 the other one forty champions. He struggled with George camp 387 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,120 Boss called Camp Boss two and four in his last time, 388 00:16:09,159 --> 00:16:09,639 they would have. 389 00:16:09,559 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: Done the same ship regardless. So to me, it's like 390 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:12,360 why not talk shit? 391 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: It's like fuck it, Like I've bet the view of 392 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:16,639 the people don't like me anyway because I funck shit 393 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,399 in the bast. 394 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: So me not talking shit about camp. 395 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,679 Speaker 3: Boss don't erase if I have a bad performance with 396 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:22,159 him or not. 397 00:16:22,279 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: So it is what it is. 398 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: Well, Richie, I enjoined the trash talk For me, it's 399 00:16:25,399 --> 00:16:28,000 always amusing to me. I appreciate U. I can appreciate it. 400 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,600 I appreciate the trash from George also makes it fun. 401 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,480 I wish you the best of luck in the fight 402 00:16:33,799 --> 00:16:35,720 of coming up June four, Kate Ritchie, thank you very 403 00:16:35,799 --> 00:16:37,279 much for the time and good luck to you. 404 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: Let me man, thank you, appreciate you.