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Speaker 2: Call it a podcast from the Mac of All Trade

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Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Well, hello and welcome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for keeping the

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tush push. Oh, thanks for telling a friend. That's how

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we spread the word about the pirate ship. Danny is

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here Tonight's well, I have special guests joining us. We're

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going there talking about the prostate. Well, it comes up

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once in a while. I think over masturbation, whether or

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not is there a healthy limit that's the way to

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keep your prostate healthy, or.

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Speaker 3: We shouldn't say that.

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Speaker 1: We should say ejaculation.

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Speaker 2: Would be a way to keep your prostrate healthy. So

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many times a week you seem very uncomfortable about this.

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Speaker 1: Clinically, I don't know. That's why we're bringing somebody in.

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The guy's an expert pro he knows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows, assholes. Uh right, that's.

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Speaker 1: It's a urologist assistant. Yes, for eurologist specializes in neurology.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when the way to get there is yeah, the

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prostate to the prostate is oh speaking of that, Along

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the same lines, the Toush push play, the game Notoriety

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Danny thanks to the Philadelphia Eagles, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Not the country line Dance, No, I don't think so.

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Come out about the time of Icky Breaky Heart. Do

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you remember that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What did the push the did?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It was a line dance. I don't There used

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to be the show on the National Network TNN when

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it was a country station called my grandmother called the

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White Horse Saloon, and they had line dancing with couples

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every every day from three to five how like? So, yes,

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so my grandmother would watch it. Yeah, she loved it

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was fantastic. I don't know why. I just watch a

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couple's dance, and then she would take note of which

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guy was with which girl, and if he was dancing

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with a different girl, Oh, he must be cheating, or

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oh he must have left that one. They must have

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had a fallen out. Like she had these scenarios in

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her head. She didn't realize they were just professional dancers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: She was in the seventies and this is after this

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is before Ojeah, right, So she didn't stop to watch

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that oj happened. We forgot all about the White Horse Cafe.

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Speaker 3: A second, what is the tush push dance?

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Speaker 1: It was one of the line dances they did, was

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the tush push. It came out with the Achy Breaky.

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Speaker 3: I did not know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is post to the electric slide.

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Speaker 3: Though, Okay, I did not know.

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Speaker 1: This is when line dance became a thing because the.

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Speaker 2: Toush push I thought was with The Eagles used it

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to help their short yarded success, and I think they

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used it in the Super Bowl war they won forty

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to twenty two over the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot they put. They pushed the they

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pushed the Chiefs pushes around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but so they voted. They had a debate at

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the owners meeting. Yeah, and sixteen out of thirty two

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NFL teams supported a proposed ban, led by the Green

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Bay Packers and supported.

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Speaker 3: By one Sean mcnermot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was pretty out of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Safety concerns is what they say in their argument, despite

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limited data available about it.

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Speaker 1: There's limited deat because it's only been around like three years.

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For years, you couldn't push anybody or pull anybody across,

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and then somehow the rule got changed and the Eagles

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and the Bills are taking advantage of it because they

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have two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Well why would you? Okay, so why is Sean against it?

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Speaker 2: Like, here's the thing I thought, is there a chance

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they're going to outlaw because it's not as.

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Speaker 1: Exciting of a play.

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Speaker 3: It's not exciting and it's almost.

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Speaker 2: A foregone conclusion that you get the first down, So

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I go there, it's gonna go away.

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Speaker 3: So then the Bills. Then the Bills fucked it up.

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Speaker 1: I think more they got it the first time. Yeah,

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you go back and watch the game. They got it

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the first time, but they can't city caught on.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like like once they screwed it up,

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and then I'm like, oh, it's here to stay now

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because it's not one hundred percent all the time and

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it's not an exciting play.

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Speaker 1: It's just not if I want to watch rugby, i'd

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watch rugby.

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Speaker 3: But you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So, and I feel like the NFL is ever shifting

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rule book. But I guess that's how you keep the

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game fresh and you keep people interested and they're you know,

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we're talking about it, right, So that's that's the thing.

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But I mean, is it strategy based versus health concerns.

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Speaker 1: Well, there isn't enough people like have you seen the data?

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until they have data, and then the data like they're

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supposed to dictate, you're not gonna have dada on it.

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Here's the thing, Sean McDermott I had the question about this.

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I asked some guys from hashtag sports their opinions. I

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actually asked Greg Connors about his two we're talking to

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him a second. But the thought is, the Bills ran

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a very conservative offense considering this year, considering the fact

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that they have shosh Allen now. People thought maybe it's

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because he didn't have any weapons to work with. Uh,

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they'd bring an extra offensive lineman every once in a while.

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Why are they just you know, running the ball for

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Why are they so conservative? And the guys from hashtag said, well,

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here's the thing you gotta remember, Sean McDermott had a

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front row seat to watch in Cam Newton's career, like

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you know, climax and then immediately take a nose dive

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because they would do the same they the Cam new

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right did to right and who does as far as

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his body type. Who does Josh Allen get compared to

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Cam Newton. They don't want to see what happens with

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Josh all who now handed what like a third of

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a billion dollars to right that to happen to him.

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And so when you watch Alan go through this, he

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does like when Sean McDermott talks about his posture and

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there's a radio station west of but Tavia, that was

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like vicdermam made a silly argument, And I'm like, no,

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he didn't. You make the arguments, dumb ass.

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Speaker 6: Look at Alan.

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Speaker 1: Watch the tape. The tape.

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Speaker 3: Why do you get all work up about these guys?

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I know because I know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so watch the tape. Watch Josh Allen. Do you

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want your quarterback being treated like a pinata six times

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a freaking game?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't adds up.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna hurt him right now. It might, but

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it could hurt it could shorten his career.

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Speaker 2: I put something on Facebook and someone wrote, you know,

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should it be out louder? And someone wrote, the NFL

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allows hard hits, turf injuries, and hip drop tackles. Yet

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suddenly a rugby style scrum is where they draw the line.

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Why is this the hill? Some coaches are willing to

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die because it's the quarterback and the most important guy

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in the organization.

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Speaker 3: You really could?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I keep thinking, like, just hit your neck

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the wrong way. It's a head twist. I mean to me,

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that's it.

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Speaker 1: I think McDermott like question is though, is that okay?

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Why run this play? Then that's where I think people

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have an issue with McDermott, and I do too. I

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agree with McDermott, this play needs to go. I don't

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like the play. I hate the play for Allan's sake,

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only I hate the play.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he is like, maybe you won't see it at

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all this.

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Speaker 1: Year, Greg, Yeah, our friend Greg Connors, I said, why

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would McDermott then go back on this. Is it because

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he's being told to? Is it because his own his

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fellow coaches are saying, Sean, we got to get rid

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of this because it's worked out for the Bills like

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ninety five percent of the time. He goes because he

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will do whatever it takes to win regardless of the rule.

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But if he can eliminate the rule now he doesn't

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have to do it anymore, which makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: bTB would fire Pizza and Grill and the mall at

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Grease Ridge. Matt Reese was in here earlier this week

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from bTB and never mentioned that it's their fourth anniversary.

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Always humble, always humble, But I mean, what a cool accomplishment.

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Speaker 3: And get out there.

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Speaker 1: God, the portions of things are so big.

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Speaker 3: And all the food is delicious.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you you have some of this food, You're

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gonna be bringing it home and heating it up for.

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Speaker 3: A day or two and it's so good.

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Speaker 2: I have been just so impressed with what bTB does.

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And here's the thing. They got a new menu out there.

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It's packed with mouth watering entrees that'll tantalize your taste buds.

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They got everything from sizzling wood fired pizzas to hearty

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Italian dishes. There is really something for everyone on the

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menu and final four catch every slam dunk.

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Speaker 3: And buzzer beater.

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Speaker 2: They got over fifty TVs strategically placed throughout the restaurant.

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Speaker 3: There is not a bad seat in the house. And

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I want to remind you they have the longest happy

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hour Monday through Saturday, eleven am to six pm. Unbeatable deals.

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You got like three.

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Speaker 2: Dollars tall domestic drafts, five dollar Tito's House wines. Make

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bTB your go to spot this week and every week

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for delicious food, great basketball and a festive fun atmosphere,

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and make their anniversary it's just say happy anniverse. And

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it probably can't keep it low key, I think maybe not.

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I don't know. He never mentioned it four years. I

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think that's an accomplishment. bTB would fire pizza and grill

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in the mall at Greece.

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Speaker 3: Rich.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I woke up this morning. It was about a

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quarter of the three.

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Speaker 7: I woke up because I had to.

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Speaker 1: Be happy to be a smart too.

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Speaker 7: Sure that's right, buddy, prostate blues stay right, just saying right.

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So I believe it came up and talk about masturbation

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and keeping your prostate healthy how many times and clinically speaking,

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you need to ejaculate to keep your prostate healthy. So

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that's where I think the original impetus of getting somebody

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who has some scientific knowledge.

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Speaker 2: About this would come in. And Dan had I forgot

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he was in your band? You said the original Diggler's Bridge.

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Was he there at East End when you were the

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Big Rock star and we took that picture. Oh he's

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not okay, but the original, the original, the four to

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eight version, okay. Yeah, And we didn't come around as

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a break room until eight. That was when we started.

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Maybe it might have been on nine. No, yeah, that's right.

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And Dan Barney, So, Dan, you are a physician's assistant

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in a urology.

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Speaker 6: Office correct, Yeah, with the University of Rochester.

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Speaker 8: Okay, primarily outpatient urology, so seeing patients and clinic pretty

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much five days a week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And I've been in neurology actually since two thousand and six. Okay,

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so that was my kind of second Yeah, it's more

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than I can even fat.

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Speaker 3: The only event.

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Speaker 2: Well, see that, Danny, Dan, I see Danny just turned

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a nice shade of red. Just I had to throw

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it in there. Well here, So what is the function

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of the proceeds. I don't know that most people really

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understand it. It's a gland, right, that's it's sort.

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Speaker 8: Of land, and essentially it makes semen, Yeah, to mix

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with sperm and appro create.

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Speaker 6: That's it's about it.

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Speaker 2: That's about it. And I would when men have had

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this room. But does it also play into any part

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of a rectile dysfunction.

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Speaker 8: It can sometimes it can't get in the way of

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you know, blood flow, nerve function, but it's it's not

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the most common reason why men end up with that issue.

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Speaker 2: Right, So what when men have had and there's a

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and there's a whole procedure. I think doctor Drew at

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one point was talking he had his taken out and

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what a process it was healing from that and coming

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I guess getting all kinds of function. I would assume

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is it because of you're cutting the muscles or is

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there some kind of connection.

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Speaker 3: Does it affect your sex life?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Question.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's there's a neurovascular bundle that goes, you know,

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right around the prostate, very close to it, and they

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have to move those things out of the way in

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order to take the prostate.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's there's been the.

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Speaker 8: More of a focus on you know, certain surgeons trying

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to do what it's called nerves sparing, you know, uh,

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procedures where you try to you know, have the least

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amount of effect on the nerves as possible. You know,

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if you if you cut the nerves, that just basically

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you know, blocks the signal from you know, your brain

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down to the penal arteries to say, hey, let's let's

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get an erection. But those nerves are very sensitive too,

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to spare those nerves, they get injured by even just traction,

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you know, moving them out of the way, thermal injury,

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you know, from the cautery they.

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Speaker 6: Have to use to do. Yeah, well they got a procedure, Yeah,

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so keep them bleeding.

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Speaker 3: Down because there's a lot of probably tiny blood vessels.

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Speaker 1: Yea, they just it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, people used to bleed a lot in the open

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procedures they used to do for that was a relatively

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high blood loss surgery until the Da Vinci robot you know,

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came about and they started perfecting those techniques, taking out

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the prostate you know, from more of a laparoscopic technique.

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Speaker 1: Ye see, the robots are taking our jobs.

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Speaker 3: Billy good. It sounds like it was good. It's a

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steadier hand, and.

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Speaker 8: It's it's gotten a lot better when I was when

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of really when you know, the DIVINCHI started taking hold

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and you know, people who I used to see the

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post operatively then compared to now, patients are doing much

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better now, they're they're regaining continents much quicker. A rectile function,

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it's lagging behind a little bit. But again, at the

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end of the day, if if you have a prospect

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that needs to be removed, the surgeon's number one priority

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is you know, make sure that that cancer's out of

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there and it's not going.

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Speaker 6: Back, right, Yeah, that's important. Thing.

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Speaker 2: Is it similar to a woman's hysterectomy type thing or

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am I only in that.

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Speaker 3: It's sexual function, right? Cancer in that area?

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Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, there's you know, from from a physical standpoint,

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there's a there's quite a bit more collateral damage when

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you when you take out the prostate, you know, you're ye,

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your urine goes right through the middle of the prostate,

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you know, I tell patients all the time, I mean, think.

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Speaker 1: About you, that's like the red sea.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you think about your prostate a being like an

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apple that has been cored. You can see right right

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through the middle of right, and that's that's right underneath

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your bladder. When you pee, the urine goes right through

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the prostate. It's part of the prostate.

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Speaker 1: It's like those aquariums where you walk underneath you see

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all the fish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so if your prostate is swollen and the you

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can that's where the song somewhat jokingly saying it's three

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point fifteen or it's a quarter to three in the morning,

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I have to get up and pee, right. Frequent urination

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is usually a sign of an enlarged prostate.

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Speaker 6: And large procect most of the time.

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Speaker 3: Yet why is that Because it's pushing on the bladder.

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Speaker 8: It it well, it cand of imprint on the bladder.

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It can also you know, talking about the apple, pretend

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like that apple all of a sudden starts growing in

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on itself, that core starts growing.

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Speaker 6: In on itself.

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Speaker 8: So where you had this nice you know, paytent space

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for the yurine to go through, Now it's not so

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it it takes longer to empty. And your bladder sometimes

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can only squeeze so much for so long, and you

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think you're empty, but there can be several ounces left

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in the bladder. So you're starting with you know, the

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third or half of the tank, and it, you know,

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can keep waking you up. So those are the guys

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that are in the you know, you go into the

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men's room, you know, the urinal. You go in there

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and you do your thing. You see and you're next

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to the guy and how you doing? And you leave

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and he's still peeing. You wash your hands, you're leaving

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and he's still in there, you know, huff and puffing.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: Those those are the guys who have have you know,

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a lot of prostate issues.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever turned to a guy and going, you

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know what, here's my card.

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Speaker 8: I've thought of it before, like, hey, you know, I

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think I can help you out with this.

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Speaker 3: It seems like there's a lot of discovery.

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Speaker 2: But back to the masturbation, is there truth to that

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that not mad but sex or masturbation ejaculation is healthy

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for the prostate? And is there sort of a balance

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like I think they were we read somewhere three times

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a week.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true enough.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, and this this is something they've been looking

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into since like you know, I think the mid eighties

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and then every you know, five ten years, another study

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comes out. And what it seems to be is they've

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they've been able to stratify that there's an amount of

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about twenty one times per month seems to be the

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you know, the threshold where if you're at that or

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over there seems to be a reduced risk of incidents

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of prostate cancer. And there's certainly more of an increased

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incidence for those who are at the four to seven

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times per month starting window, like like young ages or

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like throughout. Yeah, they start looking at you know, people

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in their twenties and beyond. You know, they're trying to

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track these people through a long period of time, and

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they go back and you know, there'll be people in surveys,

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you know, and they get questions and then every couple

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of years they send out the questions again, you know,

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just to track them.

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Speaker 1: Because there is a movement right now you've heard if

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you've heard of doctor Jordan Peterson, a doctor Andrew Huberman

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and others, they are they have like joined this what

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they call it no FAP movement, right which is an

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anti exacerbation movement, where like because it has nothing to

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do with the prostate it's the idea of your dopamine

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levels and your psychology that you're getting used to the

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same climax that nothing could top, that's you're gonna go

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and get crazier and crazier to try to overcome that

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dopamine hit that you get an orgasm if you're watching

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pornography and doing that all the time, right, And their

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whole thing is, don't do it, just have regular sex.

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But a lot of people you need someone to do

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that with and if they don't have that, their recommendation

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will don't do anything, but it'll raise your testosterone. There's

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other So there's like a trade off to it. Does

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that make sense?

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Speaker 8: There is a little bit, you know, and there's you know,

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certainly you know there's there's a double edged sword for that. Yeah,

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it's it's more or less like what is what is

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your personality?

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Speaker 6: You know, there's you know, you.

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Speaker 8: Can give certain people alcohol and you know they can

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deal with it. But then there's some people who have

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a higher tendency to become addicts, you know, and that

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can be a problem to you talk about too much

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like how much is too much? You know, there's right,

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they don't say that in the literature, but you know

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when it when it becomes a social detriment to you,

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or it's you know, you're late for work again, or

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you know you're you're just you're doing that. Sorry us Yeah,

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you're you're you're cutting out time with your with your

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spouse and you know things.

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Speaker 1: Wall Street, Yeah, between like lunch and breakfast.

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Speaker 3: What we a rectile dysfunction?

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Speaker 2: And I maybe this isn't your area, but it's sort

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of in that adjacent area. I would think, Uh, it's

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a lot of times blamed on aging, But are there

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other contributing factors that were not necessarily aware of, Like

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most people don't something that most people don't realize is

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actually affecting their rectile dysfunction that they if they eliminated,

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maybe it would. I don't know if it's gonna cur

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it necessarily, but with certainly maybe lessen it.

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Speaker 6: Yep, for sure.

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Speaker 8: And then and that is a very large part of

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my practice as well. You know how I can't go

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you know, thirty minutes during the day without talking about

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erect heal dysfunction.

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Speaker 6: It seems like in sleep.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and even but you're right, there's you know, it's

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kind of you know, blamed on aging all that that

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happens when you get older, right, you know, But the

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most common cause in what happens as you're getting older

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is your arteries are getting harder. Atherosclerosis the same thing

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that causes heart disease. So fun fact, men who are

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diagnosed or have erect out dysfunction earlier in age in

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their forties, you're actually at a much higher rate risk

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of having a cardiac event, higher risk of using fire strokes. Correct, Yeah,

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you know, so it's you know, they say that a

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man's you know, erection is a overall barometer of their

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vascular health.

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Speaker 2: Have you been to Leo's Baker and Deli in Eae

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Rochester recently? Oh, you got to get there, throw open

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every day, so it's very convenient. It'll satisfy your sweet tooth,

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your sandwich cravings.

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Speaker 3: Get the Cubano.

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Speaker 9: Tell them Bilified said to have the Cubano sandwich, fresh

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baked bread, hand crafted pastries, deli favorites, and desserts like

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canols that'll make you rethink your self control.

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Speaker 3: It's all waiting for you.

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Speaker 2: So what's the best thing about Leo's Everything? Check them

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out a Deskbats drive in East Rochester. Because every day

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is a good day for Leo's. Because the best thing

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about Leo's, oh everything.

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Speaker 10: State it's a good day and it's head inside has

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a soul. Life's hard to bread day.

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Speaker 1: Because we keep it.

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Speaker 10: Out of side.

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Speaker 1: I do wanll not kind of tea shape blood and

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directum the fancy gloves of.

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Speaker 6: Where's the doctor? If you check it.

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Speaker 3: I will say that I once had my prostate check.

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This is I shouldn't. I just remember being really embarrassed,

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and I didn't. I think I had to go home.

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Speaker 2: I wore like in the mid nineties, gap had these

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almost they were almost white, but they were very light

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tan khaki khaki pan and I went to the doctor,

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had a prostate issue. He loubed up, and then at

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that time he wasn't saying white, you know, you may

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want to wipe yourself. He's like, all right, we're good,

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and I pulled I had I think I was blowing bubbles,

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I asked, because there was so much that there went

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so much loub and I think it squished through and

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I had like a dime or maybe a quarter size

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of the ointment or whatever right the lube through because

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I was wearing boxer shorts at the time.

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Speaker 3: And then I saw somebody.

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Speaker 1: When we were like the poor girl who like had

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to take her yeah sweats around. Yes, yes, that he

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did a commercial for uh Men's depends.

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Speaker 2: No, well, I mean it's just it's one of these things.

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But I think that there's I think guys are more

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open to talking about these things.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: We did bring up testosterone. There's a lot of supplements.

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You'll see it all over health foods and not health

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food source, but like genc's and things like that.

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Speaker 3: A lot of ads that are pushed at guys.

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Speaker 2: I think there's even one guy who is I think

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00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,799
doctor Drew was part of his thing, but they had

476
00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:40,480
some kind of testosterone supplement. And one of the side

477
00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:42,200
effects as well, it may make you a little more

478
00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:44,720
aggressive or angry. And I'm like, yeah, of course it does.

479
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,599
What what are the dangers with that are there? Or

480
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,079
is it better to try to raise it naturally and

481
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,759
let nature play it take its course.

482
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

483
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 8: I mean it's first off, you know, if I see

484
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,920
someone it's you know, you look at the whole picture,

485
00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:02,000
and you know, I may have hundreds of patients on

486
00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:05,039
some form of testosterone, you know, but the first thing

487
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,960
is to try to establish a reason why not to

488
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,400
give it, you know, and if I can and that

489
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,119
person's feeling better, you know, through you know, diet, behavior change, exercise.

490
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:19,200
And we can see some data that's showing you know, hey,

491
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,680
we're getting the numbers to move correlating with yes, I'm

492
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,920
feeling better, then you keep you know, going on that path,

493
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,400
you know, in a big cause of that sometimes as

494
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,839
men who have sleep apnea, snoring at night, not getting

495
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:35,960
into a deep sleep, you know. So for a guy,

496
00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:39,200
testostereal levels they're never the same. You can check a

497
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:41,759
testogeal level five times a day, it's going to be

498
00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:44,680
different every single time. It tends to peak in the morning.

499
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,119
So in general, stereotypically, men tend to be more frisky

500
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,680
in the morning, and.

501
00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:55,319
Speaker 6: That's the morning Wood saw when the levels are generally higher.

502
00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 8: But if someone's not getting good sleep, they're snoring, they're

503
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,880
sleeping four hours a night, you're not getting into those

504
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,640
sleep cycles that trigger your body to say, hey, let's

505
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,160
make more testosterone, so that.

506
00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 6: Can be priority number one.

507
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,759
Speaker 1: So radio sleep.

508
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go.

509
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 8: Some patients I see, you know, they don't even get

510
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,880
on testosterone. They go back to their primary care doctor

511
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,720
and say, hey, we saw Dan and you know I

512
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:17,279
snore all the time at night. Should I get a

513
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,680
you know, sleep study? And they do and they get

514
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,599
that fixed, and over the course of several months that

515
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,880
the tea level starts, starts going back up.

516
00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so.

517
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's there's a lot of Is it important for

518
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,079
men to check their tea level? It's not a recommended,

519
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,480
you know, routine screening, you know, because it's everybody's levels

520
00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:36,359
all over the place. Someone may be running around at

521
00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:39,200
three four hundred and they feel completely fine. You know,

522
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:42,400
another guy might need five six hundred. There's really not

523
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,839
a test to tell, like what is someone's threshold? You know,

524
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,559
it certainly declines as we age, you know, but there

525
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,200
are things you can do to you know, increase that.

526
00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 6: You know, like I said, sleep, good diet.

527
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 8: You know, you don't have to be a health nut

528
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,920
per se, but you know, in general, moderation, lean protein,

529
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:04,160
healthy fats, fats that are in salmon, avocados, seeds, you know,

530
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,160
fruits and vegetables, zinc, you know, vitamin and.

531
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,759
Speaker 6: Yell that, all that good stuff, all that stuff.

532
00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 8: I eat the almonds I asked for on my writer

533
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,640
that I wasn't delivered today.

534
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: By the way, cinnamon. Didn't you say cinnamon.

535
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,599
Speaker 6: Almonds just a nice little flame.

536
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 3: Dusted Well, I was gonna say, I think cinnamon is pretty.

537
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: Good for cinnamon is really good it is.

538
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's because I have been told and I

539
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,880
think Dan set off Mike. I'm not sure if we

540
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,960
were on at that moment, but we've been told of

541
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,480
increased risks of cancer. I think you were told heart attack.

542
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,079
Speaker 1: Heart attack, and hair loss if you go through TRT therapy. Okay,

543
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,160
this is what I was told several years ago by

544
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,640
a doctor.

545
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:44,039
Speaker 6: Yeah.

546
00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 8: And in the mid twenty or mid twenty tens, there

547
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,160
was some studies that came out that made people pause

548
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,559
about that. There was a black Box Mornings that came out,

549
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,720
and recently there was a very large study that was

550
00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:59,640
done and essentially, you know, more or less targeted men

551
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,039
who were a little more unhealthy that had cardiac risk factors,

552
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:05,559
you know, and they followed them for five years. It's

553
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:08,319
called the Traverse Study, and it just came out within

554
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,160
the last couple of years, and essentially, there was no

555
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:15,119
increased risk in all cause mortality. There was no increased

556
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,160
risk in heart attacks, strokes. There's a very slight increase

557
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:26,160
in aphib rates, atrofibrillation, blood clots, but nothing that led

558
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,160
to death. You know, blood pressure might go up a

559
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,799
little bit. Yeah, but again it's all in the proper

560
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:34,359
management of that, you know, or you know, some patients

561
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,759
ask me that what should my testosterial level be? You know,

562
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,240
and if it's someone who were starting on treatment, it's

563
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:42,519
basically the lowest level that you can get by with

564
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:46,000
during whatever treatment option you're using, you know, whether it's

565
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,400
a gell you're rubbing on every day, a shot you're

566
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,839
given to yourself once a week, hormone pellets that get

567
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,880
implanted you know, every three to four months, long acting shots,

568
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,839
they have testosal specific.

569
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,799
Speaker 6: Pills now, you know.

570
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,279
Speaker 8: So it's essentially that lowest level that keep you feeling

571
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:04,119
well and back like yourself, you know, while you're on that.

572
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,000
And it's it's a dose dependent thing, you know. I

573
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,759
can see, you know, a dozen different people on testosterone

574
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:13,000
and they may all be on different dosings of different medicine,

575
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,640
and it's it's kind of what what works for them,

576
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,880
you know, but it's it's very it's a very safe

577
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:22,079
treatment when it's managed properly.

578
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: You know, you know, you have you go to a

579
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,960
doctor and not necessarily.

580
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:29,079
Speaker 8: And I and I see people who've been in the

581
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,319
you know, the bodybuilding industry for years and they they

582
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:34,240
come to see me and say they say, all right, listen,

583
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,680
I just I just want to get clean. I want

584
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,440
to do this right. I want to have somebody monitoring it. Yeah,

585
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,880
you know, and we don't have studies that say, oh,

586
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,799
what happens if you're te levels A thousand all the time?

587
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,039
You know, and then you just kind of have to extrapolate,

588
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:55,559
and you look at the car exactly. You look at

589
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,319
you know, the bodybuilding industry. There there is a higher

590
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,119
risk of people just sudden you know that you've been

591
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,200
on you know, the high level injections.

592
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,799
Speaker 3: Everything for a long time.

593
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think there was just recently a bodybuilder

594
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,000
just died, like within the past two days. I came across, yeah,

595
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:15,759
forty four year old bodybuilder or guy at the gym.

596
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's about our age. I mean, well,

597
00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:22,000
it's funny because like Ken Kamminitty, remember the steroid thing

598
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,839
happened to baseball. He ended up dying. Uh, he had

599
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,319
like drugs like later on stuff, But he didn't realize

600
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:33,000
that when he took steroids that steroid users typically cycle

601
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,079
on and off. He just kept going and going and going.

602
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:38,279
It didn't stop. And then when he stopped, all of

603
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:40,599
a sudden, he fell lethargic, so he kept going, and

604
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,720
guys like Koseka were like, no, bro, you gotta do

605
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:45,480
it like this. That's how Kiseko became like the godfather

606
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,920
of steroid usage because he actually, like this is gonna

607
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,359
sound ridiculous. He introduced really steroids into baseball and made

608
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,839
them more I don't want to use the word mainstream,

609
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,640
but educated a lot of baseball players how to use him.

610
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:00,319
He was kind of like a die. I mean, if

611
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,880
you've seen Koseko today, he looks fantastic still, he's like

612
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,920
sixty something years old, but like he did it like

613
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,720
in a proper way. Kim and I, he was just yeah,

614
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,880
doing it all the time.

615
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,079
Speaker 3: There's I almost.

616
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: Feel like there's a rise in I don't know what

617
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,759
the right term is longevity doctors, but there are doctors

618
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:26,319
who are doing different hormone replacements and for men, right,

619
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,599
you know, and these things.

620
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:28,559
Speaker 3: And I always worry.

621
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: I always go, are you making yourself more susceptible to

622
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:39,200
something catastrophic versus actually helping your your body? And I

623
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,359
don't know the answer. And it sounds like if you

624
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,319
do things properly, yeah, it can work out.

625
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

626
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,119
Speaker 8: And I've just I've you know, been fortunate to take

627
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,640
care of some people for you know, over a decade now,

628
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,079
and you know, people that just they do well. I

629
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:55,960
have so many people that say, you know that they

630
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,319
they get their life back, you know.

631
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,079
Speaker 6: In one of the primary.

632
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:02,759
Speaker 8: Simms of low testosterones just feeling like low energy, like

633
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:06,039
I can't get up and do that, you know, motivation

634
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,640
like I used to go to the gym all the time.

635
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,000
I just I can't get myself to go, or they

636
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:13,400
go and it takes them five days to recover, you know,

637
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,039
you know, and just like mental clarity, mental fog. You know,

638
00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:20,000
people are you know, say I'm not as productive at

639
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,680
work when my testosterone is low, you know. So it's

640
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:24,559
it's it's one of those things where you're looking at

641
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,160
numbers and there's guidelines that we use to you know,

642
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:30,440
kind of use as a benchmark of okay, should we

643
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,160
start pursuing this or not, you know, but if you

644
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,839
have symptoms going along with that, you know, it's worth

645
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:39,640
exploring that and ruling out some other potential causes of it,

646
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:41,880
you know first. And if if you can't rule out

647
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,839
any other cause, and your only other option is to

648
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,359
start testosterone, and that's a great patient to start that

649
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,640
and then they usually do very well, you know, over

650
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:53,519
over a long period of time. You know, we we

651
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,599
screened for prostay cancer. There's you know, there's there's some

652
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,119
data out there where the waters get a little bit

653
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,200
muddy with with prostate cancer and testosterone. One nice thing

654
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,119
with that Traverse study that was done, it showed that

655
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,240
there was not an increased risk in all prosta cancer creases. Right,

656
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:15,839
So you know, as as prostate cancer starts to uh

657
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,480
you know develop like uh change more and it gets

658
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:22,440
becomes more aggressive, then it does become a lot more

659
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,960
responsive to testosterone. So people who have higher grades of

660
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,440
prostate cancer, you know, you know, you got to pull

661
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,240
that back and stop. We actually have patients who have

662
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:35,480
prostate cancer, they've been diagnosed with a low grade prostaate cancer.

663
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,200
They choose to follow an active surveillance protocol where they're

664
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,599
not having their prostas taken out, they're not getting radiation,

665
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:45,799
they're not getting any other you know, focal you know, therapies,

666
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,119
and you know, but they say to us.

667
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 6: Like I can't come off a testosterone.

668
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,079
Speaker 8: Like I'd rather I'd rather die than be off of this,

669
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,519
you know, like it's it's such a big change in

670
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:58,240
their life to be on it. And there's people now

671
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,599
who we follow who have prostay cancer or who we're

672
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:03,720
giving testosterone to. Can you keep you check their PSAs

673
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:06,640
every time they come in, and you know, you you

674
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,920
just watch for pattern changes and you know, you intervene

675
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,920
if you know something goes off, let your patient know,

676
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,319
get to.

677
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:15,359
Speaker 1: A doctor, Fellas, Yeah, well I got to. So I

678
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:18,160
got two buddies who are on TRT and every six

679
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,920
weeks they're getting their blood drawn, they're getting checked out.

680
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, it depends on what kind of treatment we're on.

681
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:25,400
You know, if I have somebody who's on you know,

682
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,039
let's say a gel or they're doing self injections, it's

683
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:30,160
a little more you know, visits in the beginning, but

684
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,039
once someone's on, kind of like an autopilot, it's generally

685
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:36,640
a six month follow up unless something Unless something changes.

686
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,799
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Speaker 5: Anny County Woman found out she won the lottery, okay,

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and then realized she lost the ticket. She left it

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in an old jacket that she donated to charity.

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Speaker 1: Bullshit, that was an episode of The Golden Girls.

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, well you got I don't know this lady

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is claiming that she lost the winning ticket.

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Speaker 3: How would you know that you had the winning ticket

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if you don't have Kanny County the ticket in your possession.

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The only way, no sense.

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Speaker 1: The only way I could see that is if you

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play the same five or six numbers every week and

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have for years. Yeah that makes sense, okay, But like

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there are these two guys in England back in the

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nineties who like played the lot.

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Speaker 3: Put it in a jacket and then I donated it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's ridiculous. Yes, Bob'm just trying to give you,

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like the one percent chance.

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Speaker 3: Let me hear the rest of this.

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Speaker 5: Because Vanny County Woman found out she won the lottery

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and then realized she lost the ticket, she left it

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in an old jacket that she donated to charity.

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Speaker 4: Talk about a mayor the winning lottery ticket. It's not

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a small one. It's worth two point five million dollars.

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Her name is Mildred Simona Rouludo, and she says she

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bought the ticket at a grocery store last May.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like somebody would do that.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I won, but where's the ticket. That's when she

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remembered she had put it inside a jacket that she

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donated to Vietnam Veterans of America.

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Speaker 9: I was stupid.

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Speaker 3: Fuck I was.

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Speaker 1: There's no words for it.

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Speaker 3: It was like Beyon, It's fortunate.

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Speaker 1: How can I get it back?

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Speaker 5: The organization donates clothing around the world, so that jacket

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could be anywhere. PA lottery officials told Simoni Riluto she

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must have.

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Speaker 2: The tic covering some kid in a It inspires on

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May eight, some kid in the chiefs winning Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: A Bill's winning Super Bowl. Yeah, you know, I mean

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it's funny, like Mildred Chicluso or whatever.

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Speaker 11: Okay, Like my aunt Millie like won a lottery ticket,

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but she put in the jacket she gave away to charity.

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Speaker 1: That was an episode of The Golden Girls. Sophia did

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the same thing.

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Speaker 11: She had a winning lottery ticket she's put in a

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jacket they donated, they have sleeping had a homeless shelter

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that night, and at the end of the episode, the

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priest who's running the homeless shelter father, These people need

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this lottery ticket more than I do.

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Speaker 3: Why Why do you remember? I remember all the details

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of The Golden Girls.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I actually like watch it when she

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wants to go to like, so she has to have

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the TV when she goes to bed.

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Speaker 3: When is this still on?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's like it's on Lifetime. I think it's on

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the Hallmark channel or one of those channels, because all

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these channels basically just promote each other. Now they're all

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on about like four companies. So but yeah, the Golden

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Girls are on like uh Binge.

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Speaker 6: It was after he finished three Company.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm such a I love that you do that.

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Speaker 2: But now there were some internet rumors that they were

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gonna bring back the Golden Girls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it was ever real or

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somebody fantasized this and they put it on social media.

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Speaker 3: But Maya Rudolph was gonna be part of it. Lisa

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Kudrow from.

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Speaker 2: Friends going to be on it, and she was gonna play. Uh,

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I think who was of Rose's granddaughter? Yeah, Roses granddaughter

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and then but they're also in their fifties now selves.

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Speaker 3: The whole old school, with the with the health Dan.

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It was a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: We learned a lot of stuff reconnecting with Barrillo from

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the old uh Diggler's Bridge days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Danny always good questions. I didn't I didn't

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mean to make any I love though laughing. I love

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how serious you get. It's my favorite.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Intelligence.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We had one guy calling the break going, hey, don't

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you shut up?

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Speaker 3: Or it's Vinny gonna love to get under your skin.

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That's all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've lived a life.

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Speaker 3: I'm Bill Moran.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow someone's birthday or maybe today as you're listening to this,

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we'll be celebrating tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine who it is. Well see them.

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Speaker 1: The land up opportunity for me is just a cursey

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tell That child didn't make us feel But I don't

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have to wait. You can't need a looking power cattle

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like Tennessee