Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2: We want to jump right into this. We are in
Speaker 2: the midst of the recovery phase after our twin fire
Speaker 2: disasters from January seventh, the Eating fires in Palisades, the
Speaker 2: Eating fire, I should say in Altadena and then the
Speaker 2: Palisades Fire over in Pacific Palisades. And last week we
Speaker 2: went through a few recent fires that have happened, devastating
Speaker 2: fires and talked about the recovery and the rebuild process
Speaker 2: and the lessons that we have learned from places like
Speaker 2: Maui or up in Paradise, or even the Tubs fire
Speaker 2: that devastated the Santa Rosa area as well as Lake
Speaker 2: County and Napa County. And we wanted to talk with
Speaker 2: Jennifer Gray Thompson, who was the CEO of After the Fire,
Speaker 2: which helps people recover, get back on their feet, of
Speaker 2: find a positive future in what was a devastating situation
Speaker 2: for everybody. And Jennifer joins us now and I want
Speaker 2: to appreciate Jennifer, thanks for taking time for us today.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me I'm born.
Speaker 2: And raised Petaluma, so a lot of the stories about
Speaker 2: the Tubs fire hit home. We all knew people who
Speaker 2: were involved with it, who lost homes in the Tubs fire,
Speaker 2: and then obviously to see it here in the Palisades
Speaker 2: and over in Alzadena, more stories, similar stories of people
Speaker 2: just losing everything so quickly. Where did what's your experience
Speaker 2: with the Tubs fire? And where did after the fire
Speaker 2: come from?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: After the fire was actually born at the same time
Speaker 5: as the Tubs Fire, but as another organization called Rebuild
Speaker 5: North Day Foundation, we thought we were going to be
Speaker 5: the one big disaster, like how could this ever happen again?
Speaker 5: Across four counties. We actually lost eighty nine hundred structures
Speaker 5: in several fires, all in the same night that started.
Speaker 5: So I live in Tsinama Valley. I love that you're
Speaker 5: a pedolumble. That's wonderful. So it was such such a
Speaker 5: devastating experience. And I worked for the County of Sonoma
Speaker 5: at the time, and so when this organization was started,
Speaker 5: they needed somebody who had like high social capital and
Speaker 5: understood government to sort of take the lead and figure
Speaker 5: out how are we going to get our you know
Speaker 5: how are we going to make it through this incredibly
Speaker 5: daunting process where you know, if you saw it, it felt
Speaker 5: like the apocalypse had had come upon us and we're
Speaker 5: going to live in an ash tray forever. We just
Speaker 5: didn't know, and I had nobody to call that first
Speaker 5: year as we were all learning our way through this.
Speaker 5: It's you know, rebuild and you know, recovery from disasters
Speaker 5: and absolute group projects. So my job is really like
Speaker 5: the group project coordinator. What happened then is we did
Speaker 5: a lot of good work in the first year, we learned,
Speaker 5: we made a lot of mistakes, and then in the
Speaker 5: thirteen months later the campfire and the Losey fire happened.
Speaker 5: So just out of a sense of human decency, we
Speaker 5: started helping them saying, hey, we don't know a lot,
Speaker 5: but we get we're thirteen months ahead. Maybe you can
Speaker 5: avoid our mistakes and maybe we can hand you some
Speaker 5: adaptable systems, and also a community that's sort of been
Speaker 5: walking through this since then in twenty twenty, we've just
Speaker 5: continue to pay it forward to every mag Fire community
Speaker 5: that has ever been affected, except for the Thomas fire,
Speaker 5: because that came right after us, and we have found
Speaker 5: that we were able to build this massive community of
Speaker 5: survivors and subject matter expertise who show up, and we
Speaker 5: designed the delegation so that we can actually serve the
Speaker 5: community in front of us. We're very respectful of that.
Speaker 5: And then our real job is to really support the
Speaker 5: local leadership, so it's all locally designed and led.
Speaker 2: We've seen since these fires a huge number of groups, organizations,
Speaker 2: foundations crop up in order to help. I mean, we
Speaker 2: had the fire aid concerts that raised one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: You had Rick Caruso and his group of private companies
Speaker 2: come together in order to help rebuild. Then obviously you've
Speaker 2: got all of the government agencies that are involved. How
Speaker 2: do you make sure that all of those good meaning
Speaker 2: people are going the right direction and that there's no
Speaker 2: conflict between what they between the private and the public
Speaker 2: partnerships there.
Speaker 5: Well, the's first thing you do is you have to
Speaker 5: organize the community. And that means so these fires we
Speaker 5: call them sisters, not twins. They affect very different communities,
Speaker 5: but what each of them has in common is a
Speaker 5: deep commitment to the people there, the place and to rebuilding.
Speaker 5: We find that the more community organizing you have, the
Speaker 5: more likely you are to come back in a way
Speaker 5: that's very much survivor informed and the way that the
Speaker 5: community wants it to go. The community can drive this process,
Speaker 5: but that also requires a relationship between the fire survivors,
Speaker 5: the funders, and the public sector. Organizing the community into
Speaker 5: a system we call block captains or zone captains, which
Speaker 5: is really like a representative way to do it is
Speaker 5: really the number one way that you can sort of
Speaker 5: drive the process. It certainly has worked here and in Paradise.
Speaker 5: In the case of I'm not really sure what the
Speaker 5: groups are doing, but I can tell you that we
Speaker 5: are working with Department of Angels, the organization stood up
Speaker 5: by Evan Spiegel of Snapchat and the California Community Foundation.
Speaker 5: They had a lot of conversations with many people, including us,
Speaker 5: and from that they have designed a community organizing an
Speaker 5: an organization that will help the community not only organize,
Speaker 5: but support them for the long term for all of
Speaker 5: the resources that they will need to maintain that cohesion.
Speaker 5: We really like it. We haven't seen it before and
Speaker 5: so supported, so we are working with them. The biggest
Speaker 5: thing is just to ask. It's okay to ask questions,
Speaker 5: but people need to also give, you know, give it
Speaker 5: a minute. One of the things I'm seeing in LA
Speaker 5: that I'm a little concerned about is there seems to
Speaker 5: be like a why are we already done, especially from
Speaker 5: some of the media, And I'm saying, like this just happened,
Speaker 5: Like you guys are doing a good job. You know,
Speaker 5: it is moving the way it needs to. It's going
Speaker 5: to be very imperfect. These people have never done this before,
Speaker 5: and our job is to connect them with people who
Speaker 5: have done it so that they can have all of
Speaker 5: the best information possible. But like Colonel Swinson has done this,
Speaker 5: he just did this on Maui. For all of the
Speaker 5: debris removal, they are ahead of schedule. I think there's
Speaker 5: a lot of intentionality, but they're you know, there have
Speaker 5: been missteps, so I'm not coding over that, but that
Speaker 5: has to be somewhat expected. But really empowering the community
Speaker 5: is a number one way through. I can also tell
Speaker 5: you that the big funders have reached out to us
Speaker 5: a lot, and they have been incredibly intentional about really
Speaker 5: wanting to hear from the community. So I feel very positive.
Speaker 5: If you look at the list yesterday released by fire Aid,
Speaker 5: they they are supporting a variety of organizations that runs
Speaker 5: deep into both of these communities. We are one of those.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that you have experience in at least county
Speaker 2: level government. I'm curious, do you have the ability or
Speaker 2: do you have the ears of the politicians the bureaucrats
Speaker 2: who would need to get rid of some of the
Speaker 2: red tape in order to rebuild.
Speaker 3: Can you help advise them on how to do that?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, they're getting lots of advice from other
Speaker 5: county leads to people have really good experience in Sinoma
Speaker 5: County and Butte County and the County of Maui. We
Speaker 5: actually just brought the managing director from the County of Maui,
Speaker 5: Josiah Nishida, to La a couple of weeks ago. We're
Speaker 5: definitely in conversation with the supervisors, and I know that
Speaker 5: the Blue Ribbon Committee that Supervisor Horvos put together actually
Speaker 5: has really talented people on it. So I am offering
Speaker 5: advice for sure, and we are here for them, but
Speaker 5: I'm also giving them just a moment because I'm watching
Speaker 5: what they're doing and I know that have good advisors,
Speaker 5: So I do have that experience. What we what we
Speaker 5: expect absolutely is for all of these jurisdictions to hire
Speaker 5: a third party contractor that will expedite all the permitting.
Speaker 5: Are firms out there that are extremely experienced. There's often
Speaker 5: a misunderstanding when stuff gets delayed. When it gets delayed,
Speaker 5: there are a number of reasons. Sometimes it is the
Speaker 5: you know, it is the jurisdiction, and sometimes it is
Speaker 5: the homeowner who wants to rebuild back in a way
Speaker 5: that requires extra permitting, adding a pool, doubling the size
Speaker 5: of their home. All of these things are fine. They
Speaker 5: have the right to do that, but it does trigger
Speaker 5: a longer process. So it's very complicated. There are many
Speaker 5: many steps to it, and it can be it can
Speaker 5: feel at very opaque at times. That's one of the
Speaker 5: reasons why we exist, so that we can sort of
Speaker 5: break that down with them as they go. Let communities
Speaker 5: know what's around the corner. We expect you to be
Speaker 5: cleaned up in under a year completely, it might even
Speaker 5: be eight to ten months. We do not expect a
Speaker 5: two year process. And we know that they are standing
Speaker 5: at those contractors and engaging with them now.
Speaker 2: It is a little bit weird that you have to
Speaker 2: have a group like after the fire, dealing with wildfires
Speaker 2: across the western United States. But I'm glad it's there. Jennifer,
Speaker 2: thanks for your time today, appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: You bet, Jennifer grey Thompson there again, Founder and chief
Speaker 2: executive officer After the Fire USA. In fact, that's their website.
Speaker 2: Go to AFTERTHFIREUSA dot org and find out information about
Speaker 2: all the programs that they have coming up.
Speaker 3: Next hour.
Speaker 2: By the way, right at ten thirty, LAPD chief Jim
Speaker 2: McDonald is going to join us. So the plan is
Speaker 2: that we're going to have these regular chats with the
Speaker 2: chief of the LAPD. Big fan of Jim McDonald, but
Speaker 2: we're going to ask him about some of the stuff
Speaker 2: that's going on, some of the headlines, including the whole
Speaker 2: LAPD stance when it comes to the potential for federal
Speaker 2: immigration rates here in LA That comes up at ten thirty.
Speaker 2: So President Trump has suggested that Ukraine was in fact
Speaker 2: responsible for the invasion by Russia, which makes very little sense.
Speaker 3: Here was what he was talking about yesterday.
Speaker 6: Well, we have Marshal Law, essentially Marshal Law in Ukraine.
Speaker 6: Where the leader in Ukraine, I mean, I hate to
Speaker 6: say it, but he's down at four percent approval rating.
Speaker 2: He's not down at four percent. I don't even know
Speaker 2: where they're I don't know where he got that number from.
Speaker 2: There are polls in Ukraine that show him close to
Speaker 2: fifty percent.
Speaker 3: That's not great.
Speaker 2: In fact, it's right about what President Trump is right now,
Speaker 2: but not four percent.
Speaker 6: But today I heard, oh, we weren't invited. Well, you've
Speaker 6: been there for three years. You should have ended it
Speaker 6: three years. You should have never started it. You could
Speaker 6: have made a deal. I could have made a deal
Speaker 6: for Ukraine that would have given him almost all of
Speaker 6: the land everything, almost all of the land, and no
Speaker 6: people would have been killed, and no city would have
Speaker 6: been demolished, and not one dome would have been knocked down.
Speaker 3: This was President's Lenski.
Speaker 5: No tot nozai.
Speaker 7: President Trump.
Speaker 3: Okay, well he's speaking Ukrainian, I will translate. He says.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, President Trump, who we spread, who we respect a
Speaker 2: lot as a leader of the nation that we really respect,
Speaker 2: the American nation, who supported us all the time. Unfortunately
Speaker 2: Trump lives in this disinformation space. ABC's Patrick Reval is
Speaker 2: in Key.
Speaker 8: The comments from President Trump have really sparked outrage and
Speaker 8: fury here in Ukraine. This claimed that it was Ukraine
Speaker 8: and not Russia that began this war, and that Ukraine
Speaker 8: was to blame for this unprovoked invasion that has caused
Speaker 8: so much enormous destruction and suffering. Here we also heard
Speaker 8: President Trump seeming to attack the legitimacy of the Ukrainian
Speaker 8: president Volodimia Zelenski, saying that he only has four percent
Speaker 8: approval rating. Now, in reality, most respective polls in this
Speaker 8: country show that he has more like fifty percent approval.
Speaker 2: All right, So they go back and forth and then
Speaker 2: Trump takes to truth social and just blasts Zelensky.
Speaker 3: This was his post earlier this morning. Think of it.
Speaker 2: A modestly successful comedian. Vladimir Zelensky talked to the United
Speaker 2: States of America and to spending three hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: billion dollars to go into a war that couldn't be
Speaker 2: one that never had to start, but a war that
Speaker 2: he without the US and Trump will never be able
Speaker 2: to settle. The United States has spent two hundred billion
Speaker 2: dollars more than Europe, and Europe's money is guaranteed, while
Speaker 2: the United States will get nothing back. Why didn't Sleepy
Speaker 2: Joe Biden demand equalization and that this war is far
Speaker 2: more important to Europe than it is to us. We
Speaker 2: have a big, beautiful ocean as separation. He goes on
Speaker 2: to say he refused. He Zelenski refuses to have elections,
Speaker 2: is very low in Ukrainian polls, and the only thing
Speaker 2: he was good at was playing Biden like a fiddle,
Speaker 2: a dictator without elections. Zelensky better move fast or he
Speaker 2: is not going to have a country. It is being
Speaker 2: received well well in the Kremlin. Moscow's foreign policy administrators
Speaker 2: have said the first and so far apparently the only
Speaker 2: Western leader who was publicly and loudly said that one
Speaker 2: of the root causes of the Ukrainian situation was the
Speaker 2: brazen path of the previous administration to draw Ukraine into NATO.
Speaker 2: Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister in Russia, said, this is
Speaker 2: already a signal that he understands our position.
Speaker 3: This does not look good at all. The idea that
Speaker 3: you would.
Speaker 2: Blame Ukraine for a Russian invasion is ludicrous, It's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2: Is it still part of the negotiation process where he's
Speaker 2: trying to sidle up to Vladimir Putin so that he
Speaker 2: can grant some more concessions to Ukraine. I don't get
Speaker 2: it at this point. It's one thing to suggest that
Speaker 2: you've got an a team of public officials in Marco
Speaker 2: Rubio and Mike Walls and Stephen Witkoff in Saudi Arabia
Speaker 2: new negotiate with Russia, and then to just absolutely take
Speaker 2: a steaming turd on Zelensky and Ukraine. Doesn't that part
Speaker 2: of it doesn't make sense to me at all. We
Speaker 2: are in the midst now the recovery phase of our
Speaker 2: fire disasters. From January seventh, we talked with Jennifer Gray,
Speaker 2: the CEO of After the Fire USA, about how recovery
Speaker 2: begins and about how these different organizations come together, and
Speaker 2: you could check out again more information about After the
Speaker 2: Fire After THEFIREUSA dot org. The Trump administration is canceled
Speaker 2: all government news subscriptions deemed non mission critical. This is
Speaker 2: a memo that came out was posted in the Washington Post.
Speaker 2: A total of six news organizations were singled out. The Economist,
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Speaker 3: All subscriptions end. The mandate is a global one.
Speaker 2: It's given one hundreds of US embassies and consulates overseas.
Speaker 2: This also makes no since a new poll conducted by
Speaker 2: Emerson College College commissioned by KTLA found that those people
Speaker 2: in California. Of those surveyed, fifty four percent said the
Speaker 2: high speed rail project is a good use of state
Speaker 2: funds fifty four percent. If you are one of those
Speaker 2: people who believes that the high speed rail is a
Speaker 2: good use of state money, I would love to hear
Speaker 2: your justification for that. I would love to know why
Speaker 2: people believe that that is still a good idea going forward.
Speaker 2: You can always leave us a talk back, You can
Speaker 2: send an email, whatever it is. April twentieth. April twentieth,
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 9: The reaction of so many people today was oh no,
Speaker 9: not again. Another high school, Columbine High in Littleton, Colorado,
Speaker 9: this time on the edge of Denver.
Speaker 3: It has been a horror.
Speaker 9: The gunman fell, those students who rushed the school and
Speaker 9: open fire for reasons we do not know yet, for
Speaker 9: reasons we may never know.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just April of this year that
Speaker 2: they held a twenty fifth anniversary commemoration of the shooting
Speaker 2: itself for all the survivors and family members there in Littleton, Colorado.
Speaker 4: Brings back the trauma. It's heartbreaking to see this happen
Speaker 4: again and again and again and sort of having you know, frankly,
Speaker 4: I have very little hope that things will change.
Speaker 2: That was one of the survivors who was actually injured
Speaker 2: in the shooting. Back in nineteen ninety nine, I mentioned this.
Speaker 2: I was a reporter in Seattle at the time, and
Speaker 2: while this was going on, I mean, while there were
Speaker 2: still shots being fired, our news director up in Seattle
Speaker 2: had booked me a ticket to fly to Denver and
Speaker 2: I was going to cover the story. And this is
Speaker 2: before we knew anything about the extent of the devastation
Speaker 2: inside that high school. I got to Little in Colorado
Speaker 2: about two in the morning or three in the morning
Speaker 2: and set up with all of the other media members
Speaker 2: in Clement Park, which is just I think it's sort
Speaker 2: of in the same large block area of the high
Speaker 2: school itself, but it's a good quarter mile away from
Speaker 2: the fence line of the school. But I set up
Speaker 2: in that parking lot basically spent three days there and
Speaker 2: got all of the news as.
Speaker 3: Everybody else did. That there were.
Speaker 2: Twelve students who were killed, There was one teacher who
Speaker 2: was killed, a couple dozen people injured, and it was
Speaker 2: by far the most difficult story that I'd ever covered.
Speaker 2: I was that not only was sort of the media
Speaker 2: staging area, it became an area for that was basically
Speaker 2: as close as you could get to the school. So
Speaker 2: that meant that friends and family members would show up
Speaker 2: at all hours a day and night to just get
Speaker 2: as close as they possibly could. And it was also
Speaker 2: sort of a secondary parking lot for the kids who
Speaker 2: didn't want to pay for the permits to the school,
Speaker 2: whatever it were forty buy or whatever it was, they
Speaker 2: would park at this sort of auxiliary public park parking lot.
Speaker 2: And when you get twenty four hours after the shooting,
Speaker 2: forty eight hours after the shooting, you realized that some
Speaker 2: of those cars in that parking lot hadn't moved. And
Speaker 2: when we got there on the third day, the third morning,
Speaker 2: some of them had been taped off with yellow tape
Speaker 2: because they belonged to some of the kids who were
Speaker 2: killed in the school. One of those who was injured
Speaker 2: was Anne Marie hack Alter. She was paralyzed in the
Speaker 2: shooting and she was eating lunch with friends when the
Speaker 2: two shooters came in to Columbine. She was seventeen She
Speaker 2: was shot twice, once in the chest, once in the back,
Speaker 2: paralyzed from the waist down. Her brother, Nathan was a
Speaker 2: freshman at Columbine at the time. He was actually trapped
Speaker 2: in the school until the SWAT team came and got
Speaker 2: him out. Six months after the shooting, her mom, Anne
Speaker 2: Marie's mom, walked into a pond shop, asked to see
Speaker 2: a gun, loaded it, and shot herself there. She'd been
Speaker 2: struggling with depression mental issues even before the shooting, and
Speaker 2: obviously this was a massive impact on her and her family.
Speaker 2: Now Anne Marie dealt with the loss of her mother,
Speaker 2: talked about rebuilding her life emotionally, physically, said she became
Speaker 2: fiercely independent. She learned to maneuver in a wheelchair, to drive,
Speaker 2: and live by herself. The Townshend family, the family of
Speaker 2: Lauren Townsend, who was killed in the shooting, became really
Speaker 2: great friends with Anne Marie hawk.
Speaker 3: Calter and.
Speaker 2: Helped her steer through this life of rebuilding. After the
Speaker 2: Columbine shooting, and when Sue Kleebold, the mother of one
Speaker 2: of the shooters, released a memoir, it was Anne Marie
Speaker 2: hawk Calter wrote a note addressed to Sue Kleebold on Facebook,
Speaker 2: saying she felt no ill will. She said, it's been
Speaker 2: a rough road for me, but bitterness is like swallowing
Speaker 2: a poison pill and expecting the other person to die.
Speaker 2: It only harms yourself. I have forgiven you and only
Speaker 2: wish you the best well. Amrie Hawk Calter dealt with
Speaker 2: chronic pain, the lingering effects of the shooting, pressure sores
Speaker 2: from being in a wheelchair for as long as she had.
Speaker 2: She was found dead just Sunday at her home in Westminster, Colorado,
Speaker 2: and she died at the age of forty three. Police
Speaker 2: said that they were called to check on her after
Speaker 2: they asked somebody was asked for a welfare check. The
Speaker 2: Adams County Coroner said it was transferred to the Jefferson
Speaker 2: County Corner given that her death was likely related to
Speaker 2: complications of paraplegia associated with the Columbine shooting. In The
Speaker 2: Jefferson County Corner's office has not completed its autopsy report,
Speaker 2: but twenty five years after the Columbine shooting, they're saying
Speaker 2: that this forty three year old woman apparently died from
Speaker 2: complications from the injuries that she suffered that day. You
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Speaker 7: Hey, Gary and Shannon Frank the process over here. I
Speaker 7: just wondered if you'd give my daughter a shout out
Speaker 7: to Melissa Navarro if you get out in South Dakota.
Speaker 7: Just gave birth to my first my first granddaughter. Yes, yes,
Speaker 7: Camilla Maurice Sofigo. He wanted a congratulator and wanted to
Speaker 7: see if you can send her a shout out and congratulator.
Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, you just did. We don't need to
Speaker 3: you did all the work. Good job, Grandpa.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear Trump blame Ukraine. I heard him saying
Speaker 1: that it could have been avoided had they had discussions
Speaker 1: prior to the war breaking out, and then he could
Speaker 1: have helped with that.
Speaker 5: And you know, I know you're not going.
Speaker 1: To put this on the air, but to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, everything he said is pretty much true, with
Speaker 1: the exception of the four percent approval rating. So len's
Speaker 1: he's a con man, just saying have.
Speaker 3: A good day.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go through some of this. Only because
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of time.
Speaker 6: Well, we have Marshall law, essentially Marshall law in Ukraine
Speaker 6: where the leader in Ukraine. I mean, I hate to
Speaker 6: say it, but he's down at four percent approval rating.
Speaker 2: I mean they have canceled or pull sponed elections because
Speaker 2: you know war, So I guess you could say it's
Speaker 2: technically martial law.
Speaker 6: But today I heard, oh, we weren't invited. Well, you've
Speaker 6: been there for three years. You should have ended it
Speaker 6: three years. You should have never started it.
Speaker 3: You should have never started it. You should have never
Speaker 3: started it.
Speaker 6: Ended it three years. You should have never started it.
Speaker 3: That's his words. Listen Tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: The Four Nations face off includes another Team USA VERSUS
Speaker 2: Canada game.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: In the first nine seconds of the Team USA Canada
Speaker 2: game on Saturday night in Montreal, there were there was fighting.
Speaker 3: There was not just one fight. There were not just
Speaker 3: two fights.
Speaker 2: There were three separate fights between US and Canada players,
Speaker 2: Fists flying between the United States dates in Canada. In
Speaker 2: this Four Nations face off, social media absolutely fell apart.
Speaker 2: And you don't even have to be a hockey fan
Speaker 2: to enjoy what's happening. These hockey stars dropping gloves, slugging
Speaker 2: it out. The Four Nations face off is sort of
Speaker 2: an all star innovation from the NHL four national teams
Speaker 2: of top players that represent Canada, Finland, Sweden, and the
Speaker 2: United States. We don't do the Fabulous Five or the
Speaker 2: Five Nations because Russia is not included in all of
Speaker 2: this because of the International Ice Hockey Foundation. The round
Speaker 2: robin tournament concludes tomorrow night in Boston with yet another
Speaker 2: USA Canada match. It's usually, I mean, this is usually
Speaker 2: the epitome of the best of professional hockey as well,
Speaker 2: best on best. Canada is playing the part of the
Speaker 2: metal hoarding Goliath, as one writer puts it, in the US,
Speaker 2: the prideful contender that is tired of disrespect. All of
Speaker 2: this comes up as well at a time when Canadians
Speaker 2: have been booing the American national anthem up there. This
Speaker 2: is one of those sports where they play both national
Speaker 2: anthems because of the teams that are in both countries.
Speaker 2: Team Canada's captain Sidney Crosby doesn't sound thrilled about this discussion.
Speaker 2: He says, we respect the anthems, being the players. I'll
Speaker 2: leave it at tad, but it's incredible. This is absolute madness.
Speaker 2: The games have featured the sort of aggression and the
Speaker 2: hits that you usually don't get until NHL playoffs. These
Speaker 2: are well paid men. These men are the greatest at
Speaker 2: what they do. You have Team USA stars who play
Speaker 2: for Canadian NHL teams, and then Canadian players who play
Speaker 2: for American teams, and in some cases you literally have
Speaker 2: NHL teammates on opposite sides in this four Nations showoff,
Speaker 2: show off, showdown, face off, whatever turn you want to use,
Speaker 2: it will be incredible. Because if you think that the
Speaker 2: Canadians booed the American national anthem, wait till the Americans here?
Speaker 3: Oh God, not a name, cruel, Hey.
Speaker 2: Frist blood, everybody knows the words, right, we come back? Ooh,
Speaker 2: you thought Canada USA was bad? You thought Blake Lively
Speaker 2: Justin Baldoni was bad? What about mayor Karen Bass versus
Speaker 2: supervisor Lindsey Horvath? Mean, girls, I know what side I'm picking.
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