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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and welcome to the NBA Podcast. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Morten Jensen, and if you heard just the sound of clicking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who my guest is today, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>mister Brian Taborick. We are going to cover some breaking

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<v Speaker 1>news here. On July twenty fourth, Jayshon Tate has agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to rejoin the Houston Rockets for a one year, three

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar contract. That is what we're here to talk about, obviously. So, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>your initial take on Jayshon Tate returning to the Rockets.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even see that he was on my list

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<v Speaker 2>of potential sixers targets if they whiffed on Lebron which

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<v Speaker 2>published on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a bummer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh all right, all right, that happened too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Perhaps we should just say congratulations to Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Shawn Tate and then get into the actual interesting bit,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Jylen Brown not knowing what to do with

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<v Speaker 1>his role now.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I think something tells me I've seen a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of this, like concern trolling over this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, no, it's it's just funny. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he cares one bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine anyone on the sixers.

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<v Speaker 2>Is gonna care too much about having to make some

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<v Speaker 2>sacrifices Now, I'm gonna go out on a limb.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same, same, I wrote as much over Red Yah who.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think they're all going in and for those

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<v Speaker 1>who's been living under a rock. Lebron James obviously has

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<v Speaker 1>signed with the Philadelphia seventy six ers two years, eight

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<v Speaker 1>million over the two years second years of player options,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is technically a minimum contract. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>rounded it up because I think that the mid deal

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<v Speaker 1>is like three point nine something, so the actual contract

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<v Speaker 1>is probably like seven point eight million something. Along with

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<v Speaker 1>those lines, he just basically said, screw the money. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going for a championship. I'm going for a basketball glory

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, respect respect, I can dig it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is perfectly reasonable. I know people will say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he did it again, he joined a good team, and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll make Kevin Durant jokes as well, just like from

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty sixteen offseason. I just look, the man is

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<v Speaker 1>forty one, he's served his time, he was a free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>He can do whatever he dan. Well, police's asmars.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned also, like will people make those jokes having

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<v Speaker 2>seen what's happened with the Sixers over the last fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is not I mean, yes, you know, David

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<v Speaker 2>Bannerman of ESPN said this was like driven by you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to win and he thought this gave him

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<v Speaker 2>the best chance to do so. But also, the Sixers

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<v Speaker 2>have been cursed to suffered just the weirdest thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Joelle Embiid had a goddamn appendectomy a week before the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs started this past season. So this is not like

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<v Speaker 2>cave Kevin Durrett joining the Warriors, like the Sixers not

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<v Speaker 2>the current title favorites. Even after making this move, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think of the options that he had, this gave,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think the Sixers arguably were his best

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<v Speaker 2>chance to win. But this is not like we just

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<v Speaker 2>at you know, created a dynasty that no team should

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<v Speaker 2>even bother competing against over the next one to two years.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just you know, he the money was relatively

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<v Speaker 2>even regardless of where he went. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 2>the Warriors could have potentially given him the non tax MLLE,

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<v Speaker 2>although that would have required some maneuvering, but otherwise it

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<v Speaker 2>was like minimum or taxpayer mL E. And when you're

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<v Speaker 2>a ten year veteran like Lebron or twenty four you're.

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<v Speaker 3>A bubble up more than Yeah, anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>With ten or more years of experience is earning three

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<v Speaker 2>point nine The taxpayer emily is six point one million,

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<v Speaker 2>So like two million dollars that much of a difference

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<v Speaker 2>when you're you know, Jams, Yeah, you're you're a billionaire, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>money was clearly not a factor. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's insane. It's insane that the Sixers were able to

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<v Speaker 2>add or any team like the fact that he is

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<v Speaker 2>willing to sign for a minimum contract is just paradigm

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<v Speaker 2>breaking in this this era of the NBA where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>other teams are giving away John Morant for free or

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<v Speaker 2>trading Jalen Brown for twenty cents on the dollar because

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<v Speaker 2>of money, and then you have this that just breaks

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<v Speaker 2>everything that Oudam Silver and the NBA was hoping to

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<v Speaker 2>accomplish in terms of, you know, money forcing parody.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the exact opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna guess the league is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate this as they are with Garrett Truck Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>One would hope, I mean hopefully the league realizes that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he didn't have. There was not a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>million dollar option on the table. I don't think Lebron,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, assuming he plays three more years and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Sixers, if he finishes out this contract, the Sixers

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<v Speaker 2>will have his early bird rights heading into his what

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<v Speaker 2>age forty four season, so that thinks maybe we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>a Gary Trent junior s contract there. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean this is just the money was. It was what

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<v Speaker 2>it was at this point. He is at a point

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<v Speaker 2>in his career and of his life where money was

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<v Speaker 2>relatively inconsequential, and it was just where's the best fit,

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<v Speaker 2>where's the best chance to give me a championship? And

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<v Speaker 2>he thought it was Phially.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's wrong either. Like, obviously this team

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<v Speaker 1>had four star or at least start caliber because Edgecombe

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<v Speaker 1>great rookie, but like we don't know if he's just

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<v Speaker 1>like a star yet. But like they had four quality

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<v Speaker 1>pieces in the starting lineup, they had a gaping hole

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<v Speaker 1>at the four. Lebron will just slide right into that slot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be embid Lebron, Jaln Brown, VJ Hcombe, Tyrese MAXI.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be the most potent starting lineup in

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<v Speaker 1>the Eastern Conference at least. Like the big question here

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<v Speaker 1>is health like and understandably so, but I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>like I get the russianale behind this. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's like twenty years in, does that mean you

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<v Speaker 1>you qualify for seventy percent of the salary cap.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't give the NBA any ideas. Got a new CBA

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<v Speaker 3>coming up in a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god no. But like, I just I like the FIT.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't think you can point at this

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<v Speaker 1>and argue against the fit or the logic. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you can argue against anything here. It just

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. And you know, one player in particular who

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<v Speaker 1>I think Lebron is just gonna mesh with so so

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<v Speaker 1>well is MAXI because Maxy is sort of like Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he'll have a game where he has forty

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<v Speaker 1>plus points, but if the play dictates that he sacrifices

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<v Speaker 1>his own shot and gets the ball to the right

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<v Speaker 1>player at the right time, he will do that. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Maxy's overall basketball, like you, is somewhat underrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we spend enough time talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>because we usually reserve that conversation to guys who have

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<v Speaker 1>like huge assist numbers, and Maxi is like somewhat pedestrian

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<v Speaker 1>in that area. But I just think he and Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>will mesh so well because they share this mindset of

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<v Speaker 1>just making the right play again and again and again.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think Maxi was probably the biggest reason

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<v Speaker 2>that Lebron Joe's Philly. That he's professed his love for

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<v Speaker 2>Maxie repeated. Maxi is a rich Paul client, so they

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<v Speaker 2>have a relationship through Clutch Sports. They've worked out together

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<v Speaker 2>in the off season. I remember there was some anecdote

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<v Speaker 2>like way back when about how you know Lebron famously

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<v Speaker 2>like for workouts, We'll get there like two or three

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<v Speaker 2>hours early and it is already in the gym, and

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<v Speaker 2>like Maxie I think showed up at five point thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one day and Lebron was already there and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I gotta up my ante here. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're wired that same way in that they're

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<v Speaker 2>just hungry, competitive, love the game of basketball. I think

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<v Speaker 2>this like fit wise, I've seen a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>questions about like, wow, the Sixers have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>guys who want to touch the ball, and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of shooting on the roster, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is a fair concern. Like, you know, Nick Nurse

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<v Speaker 2>certainly has his work cut out for him. I would

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<v Speaker 2>point out Lebron this past season, especially toward the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the year, you know, really willingly took a step

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<v Speaker 2>back in that regard and kind of deferred more to

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<v Speaker 2>Luka Doncic and Austin Reeves and moved into more of

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<v Speaker 2>a tertiary role, which you know, then he proceeded to

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<v Speaker 2>let everyone know what a big sacrifice that was at.

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<v Speaker 3>This stage of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I don't think the Sixers are signing

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James. I don't think Lebron James is hanging the

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<v Speaker 2>Sixers with the expectation of like the ball is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in my hand every single possession. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to want to utilize him as a decoy

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<v Speaker 2>at times, although I do think, you know, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want the ball in Maxi's hands every possession either. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this between the additions of Jalen Brown and Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>James now this offseason, you know, and VJ. Edgecombe last

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<v Speaker 2>year as well, already started making strides in this direction.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's going to be the focus of his

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<v Speaker 2>this offseason as well. They've got really now four guys

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<v Speaker 2>that can initiate the offense on any given play, which

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<v Speaker 2>is going to enable Maxi to operate a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>off the ball, yeah, than he has in the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years, which is I would argue that's where

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<v Speaker 2>he's at his most dangerous. You know, he is such

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<v Speaker 2>a good catch and shoot, three point shooter, good cutter,

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<v Speaker 2>just so lightning quick that you know, if he if

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<v Speaker 2>he gets open. Like the chemistry, the passing chemistry between

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron and Maxie is gonna be sublime.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I saw someone in the Livertiballer slack. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was from ESPN research. Maxie and Lebron were the

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<v Speaker 2>league's two leading fast break points scorers last year, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think this, you know, it's gonna be interesting how

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<v Speaker 2>this fits with Embiid, who has historically not been a

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<v Speaker 2>super up tempo, fast paced guy. But hey, second form, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna basically have to be that because,

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<v Speaker 2>like the rest of this roster is now designed to

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<v Speaker 2>fly up and down the floor like I I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be so dynamic in transition now that I

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<v Speaker 2>think there was just such an obvious like Lebron's sized

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<v Speaker 2>void on this team where you know, Dean Wade would

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<v Speaker 2>have been fine as the starting power forward, but now

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<v Speaker 2>slotting Lebron James in there instead.

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<v Speaker 1>It Yeah, like even Dean Wade has to be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would think so. I would think so.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, like you know, I've seen the the Jaylen

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<v Speaker 2>Brown stuff about how he's gonna, you know, not want

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<v Speaker 2>to operate off the ball, still want to be the

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<v Speaker 2>number one alpha guy. It's like, you know, I I

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<v Speaker 2>would imagine all of these guys, you know, based on

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<v Speaker 2>the reporting and be MAXI Jalen Brown were really leading

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<v Speaker 2>the way in terms of recruitment for Lebron from the

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<v Speaker 2>Sixers standpoint, And I doubt Jalen Brown is calling Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>and is saying like, hey, Lebron, just so it's clear,

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<v Speaker 2>if you come here, I'm still number one.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably telling Lebron, look, man, you come here, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to sacrifice and we do whatever it takes.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't need the ball in my hand possession.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jalen Brown is going to be very hungry

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<v Speaker 3>Of his primary focuses this year. And I think, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>That, analytics community, I'm going to show you, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>Great, great plan. So I want to get into VJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Edgecombe before we get into other players and everything. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>second to your guy obviously had a great rookie season.

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<v Speaker 1>Like for me, I think for Edgecombe, next season is

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what's interesting about kind of the long term

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<v Speaker 4>picture here is that one Jalen Brown is now eligible

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<v Speaker 3>It's only a one year deal. I don't necessarily think or.

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<v Speaker 2>Know that the Sixers are going to give it to him,

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<v Speaker 2>but as just something to keep in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have it up already, all right, and then

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<v Speaker 2>go to twenty eight and twenty nine because I will

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<v Speaker 2>tell you as a spoiler. Joelle Embiid, Jalen Brown, Tyres, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>are all set to become unrestricted free agents after the

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven point two million dollar player option in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight twenty nine, which feels like a safe bet. VJ

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<v Speaker 2>edgecomb that offseason is slated to be a restricted free agent,

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<v Speaker 2>so this does not interfere with anything regarding their long

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<v Speaker 2>that has no bearing on what.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, adding four million dollars on the cap sheet

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, pouring out for Josh Harris. He is going

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this, the Sixers still have an opportunity to pivot,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they will. You know this is this

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<v Speaker 2>feels like a one or two year window with this group,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you get to twenty eight, twenty nine, Lebron

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see if the Sixers.

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<v Speaker 1>We say this every single cockdal.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe the fuckery will just continue till he's fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>But I bring this up because the NBA can also

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<v Speaker 2>have a new CBA after the twenty eight twenty nine season.

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<v Speaker 2>The current one runs through twenty nine and thirty, but

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<v Speaker 2>either side can opt out after twenty eight twenty nine. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So part of me thinks that this is just we're

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<v Speaker 2>three and say, like, we got a two year window

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<v Speaker 2>with his group, and then we're gonna have to start

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<v Speaker 2>picking and choosing. Like I'm I don't know if Jalen

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<v Speaker 2>Brown is here beyond twenty nine to thirty or beyond

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight twenty nine. But right now, I don't care,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think anyone should. I think Sixers fans

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<v Speaker 2>to just enjoy this whatever this winds up being for

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<v Speaker 2>the next one to two year and worry about the

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<v Speaker 2>future later. I mean it, This just makes everything kind

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<v Speaker 2>or at least at some point between now and the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>The backup center depth is still questionable at best, I

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<v Speaker 2>would argue, But forward depth was also a big concern

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<v Speaker 2>for this team. Like before Lebron came, it was Jalen Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the only other sort of small forward on

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<v Speaker 2>looks a little bit better. When you've got Lebron and

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<v Speaker 2>coming off the bench, you have Don Barlow, Justin Edwards,

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<v Speaker 2>Jabari Walker assuming he is still in town. I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 2>Dale and Terry is getting waived as part of this,

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<v Speaker 2>because right now the Sixers do not have enough room

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<v Speaker 2>under the hard cap to officially sign Lebron, so there

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<v Speaker 2>are other small shoes to drop at some point, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But backup center is one that I'm going to keep

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty close eye on because I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>Huck Porty, A M. Bona and Jani Broom are you know, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Backup You can say it, Brian, It's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I just especially you know, now, the Sixers are clearly

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Bona is fine. Porty, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a third string center last year. We've barely

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<v Speaker 2>seen them. Broom no, but I'm assuming he's getting traded

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<v Speaker 2>to the Lakers for Bronni at any minute now.

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<v Speaker 3>But but yeah, like they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna need a veteran big and there's not a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of options on the market. I think Nick Rich and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I I think I think they're I FanDuel

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I believe they are right behind the next

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of Eastern Conference favorites, and then both teams

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<v Speaker 2>are well behind the Eastpurs and Thunder for obviously using

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<v Speaker 2>for title favorites. Look, man, even if they don't win

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<v Speaker 2>the title, the six Ers haven't made it to the

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<v Speaker 2>conference finals in twenty five years, Like the bar is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty low here from Lebron. You make it to the

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<v Speaker 2>conference finals and it's a success.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're right, you're right. And they also have some

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<v Speaker 1>optionality within like the course of the season before the

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<v Speaker 1>trade that line, Like, I'm sure they'll figure something out,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I wouldn't be surprised if they spend the first

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months just kind of seeing what they have

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<v Speaker 1>and then tinkering a little bit, Like we've seen that before.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't look If le Baron Phylon is good, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that becomes a thing, right, Like because if he's immediately

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<v Speaker 1>one of your best guards, then you also have sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a decision to make, like do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>approach sheet where you'd like dangle Pylon or do you

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<v Speaker 1>just rock with him and say screw that, Like he's young,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, man, it's gonna say if they

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<v Speaker 2>trade Filon, maybe they're gun shy after the Jared McCain

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<v Speaker 2>reaction last year, But you know, now looking back on

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<v Speaker 2>that like, they've got three second round picks to dangle to.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they traded a couple for for Jalen Brown already,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, they still have so they don't have many

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<v Speaker 2>first round picks they can offer. They've already traded twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight and thirty one in the Jaln Brown deal, which

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<v Speaker 2>means Stepian rule, can't trade twenty seven to twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>can't trade thirty or thirty two, so they can all

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<v Speaker 2>only trade their twenty thirty three first round pick. They

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<v Speaker 2>have as many as four swaps that they can offer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe as many as nine tradable second round picks.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the tricky thing is that they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>contracts right Like it's the Big three VJ. Dean Wade

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<v Speaker 2>is the next highest paid player at nine million, Simons

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<v Speaker 2>at six million, and then it's Filon at three point six.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dean Wade, you are a trade candidate. Welcome to Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be gone by January.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a non zero chance to the team

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<v Speaker 2>weight it does not finish the season, and Phillip there's

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<v Speaker 2>non zero chances the Simons doesn't finish the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Eire like if want to a.

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<v Speaker 1>Great deal now, like Simons is always could have been

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<v Speaker 1>a good deal, but it's like even better now just

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<v Speaker 3>My god.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like this team is offensively speaking, the Sixers should

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if everything clicks, I mean, all five

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<v Speaker 2>guys are just you know, VJ is not quite there yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but the other four have made multiple All Star teams

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<v Speaker 2>at this point of their careers. Like yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Knicks would be the only other one.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think.

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<v Speaker 2>When McHale is presumably the worst one offensively in that,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess Josh Hart too hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And bridges right, like just inconsistency wise, but like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think the again, this is baking in health

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<v Speaker 1>from the Sixers, healthy Embid, healthy Brown. And look that

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<v Speaker 1>And what the luxury is is that when you have

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you up the load a little bit for Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brown, Tyres, Maxie. They all chime in a little

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<v Speaker 1>here you go, Anthony Simons, Leveron Fylon and Lebron James, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>now you take over the offense like it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the luxury of not having to, you know, claw

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I think I don't know how you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't, Nick Nurse should be fired yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lebron James decision. Oh my god, another dish.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Brian, let's get into the trickle down effect.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had something to say before we went on.

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<v Speaker 1>You had some sort of predictions, you basically said, Demarto

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<v Speaker 1>in Philly, like you think Damar is gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>what's it? Miami? And then I think, you said, Jonathan

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I think we're gonna probably see a

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<v Speaker 2>think Lebron was holding up a lot for the interested suitors.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously James Harden is going to resign with

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<v Speaker 2>say under the second Aprin because they finished over it

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<v Speaker 2>last year, so they do not want to be in

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<v Speaker 2>danger of you know, they've already got the what twenty

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the first round, which I would imagine they

419
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<v Speaker 2>have no interest in doing. So whatever they sign hardened too,

420
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<v Speaker 2>and maybe the hardened thing waits so as they sniff

421
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<v Speaker 2>out Kaminga possibilities. One would think that Max s Truce

422
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<v Speaker 2>will be some of the matching salary going out in

423
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<v Speaker 2>that trade.

424
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

425
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, the Lakers are the other team

426
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<v Speaker 2>that's been after Kaminga, and they've been like doggedly pursuing

427
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>him with Jared Vanderbilt. Would have been the salary going

428
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<v Speaker 2>out they, because they are under the first apron, could

429
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<v Speaker 2>have offered him a lot more than what Van do.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Do is earning.

431
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:01.359
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like close to twenty one million as

432
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<v Speaker 2>a starting salary. I don't know how the Calves get

433
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<v Speaker 2>up that high because they I mean, right now they're

434
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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight million dollars under the second apron, twenty five

435
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:22.160
<v Speaker 2>million dollars below the first apron. So once they resigned

436
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.519
<v Speaker 2>hard and they're presumably right up against that first apron,

437
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:27.960
<v Speaker 2>which is going to mean they can't take back more

438
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:32.400
<v Speaker 2>salary than they send out in a trade. Struce is

439
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:35.480
<v Speaker 2>at sixteen point seven, so maybe they send out both

440
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Struce and sam Merril if sixteen points that or Shrewder

441
00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:41.039
<v Speaker 2>they can send out in a deal as well.

442
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

443
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:46.440
<v Speaker 2>It feels like Kamingo was waiting for Lebron to happen,

444
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:50.240
<v Speaker 2>and now there's going to be the saddest bidding war

445
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>of all time between the Calves and the Lakers for him.

446
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

447
00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:59.880
<v Speaker 2>DeRozan, I know has been linked to the Heat. I sure.

448
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's exactly what they need. Another forward who

449
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>can't shoot, so that's perfect fit.

450
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, good luck with that.

451
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

452
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean Mario Hazzonia. I saw he's coming back to

453
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<v Speaker 2>the NBA. I believe he was between Golden State and Cleveland.

454
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<v Speaker 2>So assuming Comingo goes Cleveland, I guess Hazonia is going

455
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<v Speaker 2>to the Warriors.

456
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:29.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like, am I being an asshole if I just

457
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:29.759
<v Speaker 1>say Pickwolf?

458
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Hey, he was the MVP of the league that he

459
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:36.160
<v Speaker 2>was in this past year in Spain.

460
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Like kind of turned it around.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, no international, Yes, I I just don't

462
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:46.839
<v Speaker 1>think like he's well maybe maybe I'm being harsh. I

463
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.279
<v Speaker 1>just don't think he plays the best in the NBA system.

464
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he's so much more of a like a

465
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.599
<v Speaker 1>thinker and like with the smaller space courts in Europe.

466
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that is like his claims of fame. I like, technically,

467
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:01.839
<v Speaker 1>for the most players, they like to play more in

468
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>an open court setting. I think he's kind of the opposite.

469
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see. Like I am open to being wrong here,

470
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>absolutely sure. Yeah, and by the way, the Spanish team

471
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>he was on Real Madrid, sir, like the most potent

472
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Spanish club ever, both in football and basketball. All right,

473
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the Spanish club. How dare you you podcast the European

474
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>for ten years?

475
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 3>Sorry that I am not grinding Mario Hiszonia tape these days.

476
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:38.160
<v Speaker 2>He was also on my list of backup plans for

477
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.240
<v Speaker 2>the Xers if they lived on Lebron. Oh, that's the

478
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 2>only reason I know that he won the MVP in

479
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:44.400
<v Speaker 2>that league.

480
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look in fairness to his Sonia. Actually, like

481
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>he started his career out in Orlando when Orlando was

482
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>just like this pitiful franchise that couldn't get anything off

483
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>the ground, like at all. So I will actually give

484
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 1>him that liked he also, speaking of Lebron, didn't he

485
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 1>didn't he block the absolute shit out of Lebron when

486
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>he was a nick. Wasn't there something there between the

487
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>two or dunked on.

488
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Him or something that does sound familiar now that you mention.

489
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:15.759
<v Speaker 1>It, right, there was something he did where everyone was like,

490
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I don't remember. It was a blog.

491
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 1>It was something along those lines. So like it's just

492
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.599
<v Speaker 1>come full full circle that we're talking about Lebron and

493
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>then coming up with Mario Hissnia. But I will give

494
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:32.279
<v Speaker 1>him this. You're you're right, so brace yourself with this.

495
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:35.799
<v Speaker 1>This season with Real Madrid, he averaged seventeen and a

496
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 1>half points in twenty three point nine minutes. Yeah, all right,

497
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Like if he's got that offensive game that can actually

498
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>now be transferred to the NBA at h what thirty one?

499
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Forty one? Oh that's not too bad? No, all right,

500
00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:00.359
<v Speaker 1>all right, fine, fuck it, let's go all in on

501
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Mario Hoshana's return to the NBA. I'm down. I fuck

502
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:03.839
<v Speaker 1>with that.

503
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 3>Maybe he'll come to the Sixers too.

504
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>If he If I remember correctly and it was a block,

505
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 1>he should absolutely come in with the biggest fucking swacker

506
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:21.599
<v Speaker 1>and just point to Lebron like you remember, you remember?

507
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.720
<v Speaker 3>I just spectacular?

508
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Who do we have else? Like the free agency market

509
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>is more or less like outside of the players you mentioned,

510
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>like there aren't like a ton of guys like do

511
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:40.759
<v Speaker 1>we what do we like foresee happening in Philadelphia? Because

512
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>like they will not necessarily have a lot of maneuverability,

513
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>right right, yeah, they have none?

514
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Right?

515
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Like literally they are five hundred thousand dollars over the

516
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:55.359
<v Speaker 2>hard gap right now, So something they're gonna wave Daily

517
00:29:55.400 --> 00:30:01.400
<v Speaker 2>and Terry and then of course of course, but like

518
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, they can't even afford a minimum contract

519
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 2>right now, right, So is.

520
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>That a trade? Could Could the Sixers call up Reil

521
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Madrid and go, well, like Mario is leaving anyway, you

522
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>need a former NBA player, can we?

523
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they like I'm not even saying this facetiously,

524
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>they might have to trade Dominic Barlow just to make

525
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>room under the apron, because I just don't know, Like

526
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>you Wight, Okay, they're five hundred thousand over Dale and

527
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Terry's a two point six, so you wipe him out

528
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>sign Lebron. You're now two point one million dollars under

529
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:48.559
<v Speaker 2>a minimum's two point what like four two point more

530
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.559
<v Speaker 2>than two point four. So they don't have enough room

531
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:54.839
<v Speaker 2>under the apron for a minimum contract right now, or

532
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 2>at least for anyone with two or more years of experience,

533
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.839
<v Speaker 2>and like they can't you know, they just signed Wade,

534
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 2>they just signed Simon's you're not getting rid of Filne presumably, right.

535
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 2>They just signed hak Porty, which that that one was

536
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:16.240
<v Speaker 2>the one that like I still don't fully understand why

537
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>they dipped into the bi annual. It doesn't matter now,

538
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess, But like why they gave him three point

539
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.440
<v Speaker 2>four million instead of two point four million really tied

540
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 2>their hands in a bad way right now. I mean,

541
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Jabari Walker is at two point six but already two

542
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.759
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty thousand of that is guaranteed. So if

543
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>you wave him and then sign someone else, you're adding

544
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:40.160
<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars to the books. I yeah, I mean,

545
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>like waving Terry's step one. I'm ninety nine percent sure

546
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 2>that's coming any minute now. And then Yeah, I mean,

547
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I do wonder. I think Barlow is probably gonna have

548
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to go unless the other option is that they signed

549
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:02.559
<v Speaker 2>someone with zero or one years of experience because that

550
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>and then just have open roster spots or have a

551
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:12.519
<v Speaker 2>open roster sparkling in the season. Oh let me, I'm

552
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna do some quick math here. I don't even know

553
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>if that gets them there.

554
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh, so they're in trouble.

555
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Trouble, Let's see.

556
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>This is, by the way, great, this is like a

557
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>great audio experience.

558
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Just Brian, Yeah, exactly.

559
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm gonna wipe out Dale and Terry.

560
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we add Lebron, Yeah, yeah, yeah, add Lebron.

561
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 2>There four hundred and fifty thousand, or almost four hundred

562
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.799
<v Speaker 2>and sixty thousand over you take out Terry, they're at

563
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 2>two point one two seven million. No, someone with one

564
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>year of experienced a two point one eight five So

565
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>they have to sign an undrafted free agent.

566
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, or.

567
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's the only option.

568
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I oh, they're absolutely going to trade team,

569
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>but way later on.

570
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:26.519
<v Speaker 3>I would I think that's a possibility.

571
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, like that's the I mean.

572
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna have to do something. They gotta do.

573
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Something now, right, I mean they've only got thirteen guys,

574
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:39.839
<v Speaker 2>oh right, or they will only have Okay, so the.

575
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Sixers have one more, like they have one more trade

576
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 1>in there, like in the cylinder at this point. Then

577
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.119
<v Speaker 1>that we have to like look ahead to.

578
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because they have they'll have if they assuming they

579
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:59.119
<v Speaker 2>wave Terry, they'll have thirteen guys under contract. Two point

580
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:03.519
<v Speaker 2>one million dollars is under the heart hardcap. So they

581
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>either sign someone sign an undrafted rookie free agent who

582
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.639
<v Speaker 2>would be one point four million, and that I mean,

583
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>that's their only option. They either go into the season

584
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>with thirteen guys under contract, they signed someone an undrafted

585
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:27.400
<v Speaker 2>free agent to a mind deal, or they have to

586
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 2>trade someone, And I'm like, I mean they could look

587
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>to trade embiid I guess, but.

588
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Lebron.

589
00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I literally just published the piece this morning

590
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:48.679
<v Speaker 2>at Liberty Bollers about what an Anthony Davis trade might

591
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>look like for the Sixers. But that would actually add

592
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:53.840
<v Speaker 2>money to their books. So that's that's not going to

593
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>do it any good. Thanks for them right now?

594
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know, man.

595
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>It's all right, so we can we can then calculate

596
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>at like currently, it doesn't make a whole bunch of

597
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>sense to expect, like, you know, ring Chasers approach Philadelphia

598
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.079
<v Speaker 1>because they just don't have the financial tools to make

599
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 1>that work. All right. Then let's get into other teams,

600
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>like is there a team out there who you think

601
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 1>can still make a sort of underrated move, be them

602
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 1>signing or a trade, like is cominga arguably the biggest

603
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.119
<v Speaker 1>piece left because.

604
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess Matherin and Peyton Watson were also out there.

605
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm still like anticipating then we're doing something with Watson

606
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>because I just can't imagine them losing out on him,

607
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, that's also becoming an unsustainable situation.

608
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the There was some like Michael Porter Junior,

609
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Peyton Watson were hanging out a lot recently, and I

610
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 2>think Peyton Watson even showed up at the NETS practice

611
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 2>facility at one point, right, So I don't think the

612
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Nets have like they don't have the cap space to

613
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 2>sign him to an offer sheet, but.

614
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:15.639
<v Speaker 3>And I mean it would and he signing trade would.

615
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Probably, I mean Julius Randall would be the obvious one.

616
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know why Denver wants Julius Randall.

617
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean when he was moved earlier to Prokelaps, Like,

618
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 1>why do the Nets want him? Like right? Right? Yeah?

619
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:36.920
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean Terrence Man would be an option. They

620
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 2>just signed Dayron Sharp to that deal, so he can't

621
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:44.239
<v Speaker 2>be traded. Kean Ellis can't be traded. Oh and even Randall,

622
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's he can't be aggregated for another month

623
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and a half. Yeah, I mean they don't have a

624
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 2>lot of I guess they could. They could do Terrence

625
00:36:56.599 --> 00:37:00.119
<v Speaker 2>Man and ewar Demon and that gets you to twenty

626
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>close to twenty three million.

627
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Hmm, Okay, yeah, is that fair value.

628
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it's a restricted free agent, true, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean they would have to make that

630
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<v Speaker 2>move or like they can't. They can't sign Peyton Watson

631
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<v Speaker 2>to that offer sheet unless they trade those guys first,

632
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<v Speaker 2>or they would have to approach Denver and say we're interested,

633
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:35.880
<v Speaker 2>this is our offer, take it to leave it, or

634
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<v Speaker 2>I mean they could reroute those guys with their team

635
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<v Speaker 2>if they wanted. But yeah, either way, like Denver, no

636
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 2>team has cap space to sign I mean, Duran Watson, Mathering.

637
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.800
<v Speaker 2>They're all kind of screwed right now if they're hoping

638
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 2>to get a big offer from another team unless it's

639
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:55.639
<v Speaker 2>a sign and trade at this point.

640
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, So we're basically back to where we were,

641
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>like I want to say, seventeen eighteen, where the restricted

642
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 1>free agents are probably gonna get fixed like late July August. Man,

643
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Like we've talked about this before. This has to be

644
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:18.159
<v Speaker 1>one of the most like major things to the players

645
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Union is going to bring up next time around in

646
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>CBA negotiations because these guys are just getting squeezed in

647
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>restricted free agency.

648
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

649
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I was have a piece half written about that for Forbes.

650
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I want to let I guess I'll spoil it.

651
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<v Speaker 1>Spoil it.

652
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 2>I want to run this idea by you because I

653
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<v Speaker 2>want to temperature check on if this would fix anything.

654
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 2>So you can sign a restricted free agent during the moratorium,

655
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.440
<v Speaker 2>but the clock, the matching clock, doesn't start until after

656
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>the moratorium lifts, and I would argue that is one

657
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 2>of the main reasons why teams don't even bother because

658
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.480
<v Speaker 2>free agency just moves so quickly that you know, if

659
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:08.639
<v Speaker 2>you can't if your cap.

660
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Space is tied up until July seventh, July.

661
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Eighth, like you don't, you're at risk of losing out

662
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<v Speaker 2>on basically everyone else.

663
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 3>My idea, we could go one of two ways. One

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<v Speaker 3>just get rid of the.

665
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Moratorium entirely, and then June thirty, if it's fair game

666
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you can sign guys regardless, or if you really need

667
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the moratorium for whatever reason, at least make it such

668
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.639
<v Speaker 2>that the matching clock can start during the moratorium. Technically

669
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<v Speaker 2>that's non binding, as is everything or almost everything else

670
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>during the moratorium, but you know, if June thirtieth rolls around,

671
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<v Speaker 2>you get someone to commit to an offer sheet, then

672
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:50.679
<v Speaker 2>you know the team has twenty four or forty eight

673
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 2>hours to match it. Whatever it ends up being. You know,

674
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.079
<v Speaker 2>then your cap space is only tied up until July second,

675
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:01.840
<v Speaker 2>so you know you're not quite as at risk of

676
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 2>missing out on everyone else. Do you think that would

677
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<v Speaker 2>at least give these guys a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that one. I think that's a good

679
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>wrinkle because like some teams are aware they can't go

680
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<v Speaker 1>chasing like the big UFA fish, so like some teams

681
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 1>will absolutely find interest in the RFA guys. I think

682
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<v Speaker 1>that's a really good direction to go in that that

683
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:35.039
<v Speaker 1>at least gives the RFA guys a little bit more power.

684
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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not sure it's going to be automatically utilized

685
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<v Speaker 1>like it might. Seems might still, you know, be a

686
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<v Speaker 1>little bit preventive about it, But I do think it

687
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<v Speaker 1>gives them more of a of a chance to go

688
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<v Speaker 1>out and say, well, screw that, we're not gonna we're

689
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<v Speaker 1>not in the market for Lebron or Jaln Brown or

690
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.559
<v Speaker 1>whatever anyway, Like you know, if we're just toying around

691
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<v Speaker 1>with the idea that they were UFAs, like, why not

692
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 1>throw an offer sheet to Peyton Watson? Why not try

693
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>to go for someone like that? Yeah, yeah, I look

694
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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day. I just want something

695
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<v Speaker 1>back that makes free agency feel a little bit more

696
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>like free agency again. Mm hmmm, because he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, it's I mean, it's trade.

698
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Like teams have no reason to save cap space at

699
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 2>this point because all of the big stars sign extensions

700
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 2>or you know, it's very rare for stars to change hands.

701
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<v Speaker 3>Hilariously, Now, you.

702
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.639
<v Speaker 2>Would argue the last two big ones that change hands

703
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 2>were both with the Sixers.

704
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<v Speaker 1>That's true, Yeah, Paul.

705
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:39.880
<v Speaker 3>George and Lebron names.

706
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, like this doesn't fix the underlying

707
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.320
<v Speaker 2>problem that you know, guys are signing extensions and forcing

708
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.119
<v Speaker 2>their way to wherever they want via trade rather than

709
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:54.440
<v Speaker 2>free agency, but it would at least give teams, you know,

710
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<v Speaker 2>I like, had the Bulls or the Nets been able

711
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.559
<v Speaker 2>to sign Peyton Watson to an offer on June thirtieth,

712
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:05.039
<v Speaker 2>that they match and Clack would have started.

713
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Or even Jalen Duran.

714
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, do they really blow all their money on

715
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Norman Powell and Nick Claxton and Zach Collins if they

716
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<v Speaker 2>have a chance at getting Duran and Peyton Watson instead.

717
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, if I were with the Bulls, I

718
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.079
<v Speaker 1>would have gone with Peyton Wattson over Norman Powell. I

719
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<v Speaker 1>mean instead, for sure, you know, I think people crap

720
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:31.559
<v Speaker 1>on that deal a little bit too much. But like, yeah,

721
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<v Speaker 1>I would have gone the youth route for sure, and

722
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:37.800
<v Speaker 1>if that is what prevents them from doing so, like

723
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>because you have to wait, and removing that hurdle would

724
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<v Speaker 1>absolutely get you know, these teams more active in the

725
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>initial parts of free agency. And look, I'm just a

726
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:53.760
<v Speaker 1>fan of good young players actually getting good money instead

727
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>of always having not always, but for the most part,

728
00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>having to take less. Wemb Nutting, he decided to take

729
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 1>less because he's a cheat code.

730
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is correct.

731
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<v Speaker 1>So like Peyton Watson, just let's let's wrap on on

732
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that one just and let's set aside the financial restrictions

733
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.519
<v Speaker 1>for well, like we have to be realistic. Where does

734
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>he make sense?

735
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean he's everywhere. He's a great player.

736
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just.

737
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't know anywhere that has yeah

738
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<v Speaker 3>that no one.

739
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:37.679
<v Speaker 2>Has the cap space to sign him. I mean, Brooklyn

740
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:43.559
<v Speaker 2>could be interesting. I guess I just have no that

741
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 2>Ruster is just so weird that you know, they're still

742
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:53.400
<v Speaker 2>just looking for anyone who might be a long term

743
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Speaker 2>piece at this point, like Sacramento. If they could SWI

744
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I'd argue they're in the same boat, just we just

745
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:04.639
<v Speaker 2>need more talent.

746
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, can Charlotte.

747
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, that.

748
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 3>No, not really at all.

749
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 1>But I just conceptually if you added him to the Hornets, fuck,

750
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>like that would be ridiculous.

751
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, you know they've got let's see, they.

752
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Kind of coster, but like if you've got him.

753
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Somehow, well, Grace and Allan, Dorian Finney, Smith, and Royce

754
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:44.280
<v Speaker 2>O'Neill all have trade restrictions, but they all expire in September,

755
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and as we've seen, these restricted free agent processes sometimes

756
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:53.599
<v Speaker 2>play out until you know, the qualifying off for deadline,

757
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:54.599
<v Speaker 2>which is in October.

758
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:57.280
<v Speaker 3>So technically.

759
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>They could offer up some combination of those three guys

760
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>in September and a sign and trade Grant Williams too,

761
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:09.639
<v Speaker 2>He's a fourteen point three million dollar expiring contract. Yeah,

762
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, like.

763
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>That's that's not the end of the world for Denver either. Yeah.

764
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Right, you get two of Grayson Allen, Grant Williams, Dorian

765
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Finney Smith, Royce O'Neill.

766
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Grayson Allen, Royce O'Neill, and Denver. I wouldn't hate those

767
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 1>guys like those are like Dorrian Finney Smith, Grant Williams.

768
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, DFS, what's what what a weird contract?

769
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And oh yeah yeah yeah that's it's like year

770
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.159
<v Speaker 1>that has to be year three of his zero guaranteed dollars.

771
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>But if they pick it up, he's got a player option. Yeah,

772
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:52.320
<v Speaker 1>that player option as well is not guaranteed. Yeah, it's

773
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>the weirdest contract.

774
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 2>So he's technically I mean, he could be an expiring

775
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:59.280
<v Speaker 2>him and grand Williams could be. Grant Williams isn't inspiring,

776
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Dorian face Smith could be.

777
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.519
<v Speaker 1>And that's why we also have to wait to pass

778
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>judgment occasionally because remember how much everyone hated the DFS

779
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:11.360
<v Speaker 1>contract last summer. Yeah, everyone hated it, and that was

780
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:13.920
<v Speaker 1>because it was reported as being fully guaranteed and then

781
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:18.199
<v Speaker 1>it turns out, oh no, it wasn't. Like this is

782
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>actually fine.

783
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Hopefully we're going to get

784
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 2>a similar report about Gary frin Junior any day now.

785
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, well, Brian, your Philadelphia seventy six ers has

786
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:36.920
<v Speaker 1>gotten Lebron James so muscle tough sorer. Yeah yeah, now

787
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you're proud to be back on the wagon again. Huh uh.

788
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.800
<v Speaker 2>We're still on the Spurs and thunder wagon. But I

789
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:47.280
<v Speaker 2>appreciate Lebron James for the page hees this year. Thank you, sir,

790
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your service.

791
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Could you let the good people know where they can

792
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>find your work and what you're working on next?

793
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, what well, I don't know what I'm working

794
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 3>on next.

795
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Now Anthony Davis column about ninety percent written that I'm

796
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:05.000
<v Speaker 2>about to tear to shreds.

797
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Thanks.

798
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:08.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

799
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<v Speaker 2>You can find me General NBA, Forbes Sports and fan

800
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<v Speaker 2>sided sixer stuff at Liberty, Bollers Lakers stuff at Silver.

801
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<v Speaker 3>Screen and Roll.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find me on Blue Sky at B T

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<v Speaker 2>O P O R e K. And that is assuming

804
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<v Speaker 2>that all of this is actually real life, not a

805
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:32.119
<v Speaker 2>simulation not having died and being caught in a weird

806
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:34.519
<v Speaker 2>basketball purgatory, which is what it feels like right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And there we go, and for everyone listening in, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for doing so. Until we speak again, have a

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<v Speaker 1>good one and stay safe everyone,