1 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,199 Speaker 1: We are back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. 2 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,480 I'm Matt Kittle, senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist and 3 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,200 your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge. As always, 4 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,479 you can email the show at radio at the Federalist 5 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:40,039 dot com, follow us on x at FDR LST, make 6 00:00:40,079 --> 00:00:42,960 sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and of 7 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,159 course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:50,920 Our guest today is Marjorie dan Felzer, president of Susan B. 9 00:00:51,079 --> 00:00:54,960 Anthony ProLife America, and we talk about the fight for 10 00:00:55,079 --> 00:00:59,280 life in another critical election year. Marjorie, thank you so 11 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:01,399 much for joining us on this edition of the Federalist 12 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,000 Radio Hour. 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: Matt, thank you so much for having me. You're my 14 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,359 favorite sharpa. 15 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. You know what, I've had some problems 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,359 in the SHERPA union lately, and that makes me feel 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,040 very good. 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,599 Speaker 2: Well, I'm a good vote getter, so I'm going to 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,120 work on that. 20 00:01:16,439 --> 00:01:19,799 Speaker 1: You sure are, And in fact, let's start out there 21 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:23,000 about how good of a vote getter you are, because 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,319 you definitely were in twenty twenty four. And let's face it, 23 00:01:27,719 --> 00:01:30,040 Marjorie and you folks have been doing a great job 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:35,480 on that, not just representing the values of the pro 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:42,239 life movement, but also moving politicians and moving voters. As 26 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,719 I understand it, you're going to spend quite a bit 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,879 of money doing just that in this midterm election. 28 00:01:48,599 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true. 29 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:51,439 Speaker 3: And when I say I'm a great vote getter, what 30 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,799 I really mean is not me at all. It's all 31 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:59,480 these incredible grassroots cancers. 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,879 Speaker 2: And true believers the ground who. 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: Go door to door day in, day out, wisconstant cold 34 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,319 Arizona heat, no matter what it is, They're going to 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,520 the right people, meaning the people that are either haven't voted, 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,400 who normally vote, who are persuadable. 37 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:19,479 Speaker 2: They're just a great, incredible team. 38 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,879 Speaker 3: And we've been doing this plus a whole lot of 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,759 other voter interactions through all sorts of other means since 40 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:33,639 twenty fourteen. So so for over a decade we've been 41 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,719 able to really kind of hone our skills in and really. 42 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:40,039 Speaker 2: Perfect something that was really important. 43 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: And if you would just allow me to kind of 44 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:45,759 express how important this gap was in the pro life 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,639 movement for so many years, for decades, as we fought 46 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,120 all the wonderful education arms, the pieces of the movement 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:59,199 that brought me in were all robust and an attractive 48 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:02,879 but there needed to be something that would leverage all 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,039 of that, all of that wisdom, all of that passion 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,800 into elections. And so we've been very blessed to be 51 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,439 part of that and very much part of leading the 52 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,120 voter aspect and really closing the gap in battlegrounds for. 53 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: Pro life candidates all over the country for a while. 54 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:27,199 Speaker 3: Now we're headed into midterm really quickly after that it 55 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:31,960 will feel it presidential. In this cycle, we'll spend about 56 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,319 eighty million dollars in Senate and gubernatorial battlegrounds and house 57 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:38,120 battlegrounds across the country. 58 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: That is a lot of resources. It's not just the money, 59 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,919 of course, it's putting people on the ground, and that's 60 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,680 a big battle as well. Let me ask you this, 61 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:54,680 though a lot of folks in the pro life movement 62 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:58,560 voted for Donald Trump for the better part of the 63 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:02,439 last ten years. He is his name is not on 64 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,120 the ballot, His policies, his agenda certainly is on the ballot, 65 00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:11,080 But how do you motivate particularly the low propensity voters, 66 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,680 the voters that don't come out very often, if at all, 67 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,160 to come out during a mid term, and we all 68 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:21,959 know the numbers on what happens to the party in 69 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,040 power during midterm elections. 70 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: I think we all know that with this president there 71 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:33,920 are incredible strengths, historic changes that have occurred. And then 72 00:04:33,959 --> 00:04:36,959 also because no one simple, certainly Donald Trump, there's also 73 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:37,800 some difficulties. 74 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: So I'll explain what I mean by that. 75 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: Yes, as you say, without the president at the top 76 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,879 of the ticket in a midterm, and this one in particular, 77 00:04:45,959 --> 00:04:51,319 is very difficult for folks who are primarily were primarily 78 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,319 motivated by him and his personality. 79 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:55,959 Speaker 2: And so. 80 00:04:58,079 --> 00:05:02,399 Speaker 3: When there is a dearth of density, then you've got 81 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:04,759 to work all the harder to make sure that voters 82 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,319 are seeing what's at stake, that the contrast will still 83 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:11,160 be there even when the candidates themselves are different. 84 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 85 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: And so, and that is certainly the case this time. 86 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,279 And the other aspect of the difficulty that I refer to, however, 87 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:24,639 is that adding to that problem of intensity that is 88 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:31,240 endemic to a non presidential year is the UH is 89 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,759 the inaction on abortion drugs in the country, and that 90 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:37,519 there's only one UH. And I mean it in a 91 00:05:37,639 --> 00:05:39,519 very specific way, and I mean it on the part 92 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:45,439 of the administration that for for the core and important 93 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:49,199 and indispensable piece that the pro life movement is in 94 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:53,720 winning tough races. It's a demotivator. It's the lack of 95 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:56,839 intensity when there's a lack of movement on that. Now, 96 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,920 I say that in the context obviously of us being 97 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,480 in a historic moment because of the actions of this 98 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,480 president when he was elected in twenty sixteen, for the 99 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:10,959 first time, we would not be talking about strong pro 100 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,439 life states passing laws twenty of them that are now 101 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,759 being undermined by these drugs. So we created a great possibility, 102 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:27,199 a great opportunity. But now that incredible success is being 103 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,800 directly threatened by the flow of abortion drugs with absolutely 104 00:06:31,879 --> 00:06:36,319 no oversight, almost completely unregulated in pro life states and everywhere, 105 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,839 thereby really robbing the sovereignty of those states to pass 106 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:44,480 around the laws to the extent that there is a 107 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,079 spike in the abortion rate in this country since the 108 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,439 Dods decision, not a decline. So back to your point, 109 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:54,800 when you see that happening, and this is something that 110 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,680 the pro life and you know, it's not just the 111 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,639 pro life movement, it's voters who care. They're slowly becoming 112 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,720 aware of this, and as they become aware of it, 113 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,480 it's it's a problem. It's always a problem for the 114 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,480 unborn child, when hundreds of thousands of more are dying. 115 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,160 It's always a problem for the women who are being 116 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,680 coerced and pimped and trafficked and tricked into taking these 117 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,800 pills that are unregulated, which anybody can buy. But there's 118 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:24,879 also a political consequence at the polls, and it really 119 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:26,680 is not a small one. 120 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:30,959 Speaker 1: It is a shame. It's an absolute shame, and it 121 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,639 has absolutely undercut Dobs. I mean, I remember talking to 122 00:07:36,759 --> 00:07:40,360 you before the twenty twenty four election and we talked 123 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,800 about you were in Iowa at that time, and obviously 124 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,800 the first in the nation caucus state. Lots of candidates, 125 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:54,959 publican candidates kicking the tires right time, at least voters 126 00:07:54,959 --> 00:07:58,000 are kicking the tires on them, And we talked about 127 00:07:58,079 --> 00:08:02,319 that moment and the Dobbs decision came down and the 128 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:08,360 sense of just rejoicing that you experienced along with your staff, 129 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:12,399 and it was just the culmination of such a long fight. 130 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:18,759 Do how do you feel about what these abortion drugs 131 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:23,879 and the proliferation of them has done to that moment 132 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,920 has done to Dobbs in particular, and as you mentioned, 133 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:33,559 what is that done to voters and their willingness to 134 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,960 head to the polls in twenty. 135 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,399 Speaker 3: Six Yeah, I think, like many human rights movements that 136 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,720 take a very long time to culminate, in a moment 137 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:49,159 like that, there is an exhaustion working so hard, and 138 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,399 then there's also at that jubilation, there's an exhale that 139 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,399 I think many people experienced and they were kind of 140 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,639 looking for that moment where they could finally just not 141 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:00,720 have to pay attention much anymore. 142 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: And and that is what we experience. 143 00:09:03,159 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: And with that exhale and with that lack of attention, 144 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,879 it was there was a sneaking in under Biden under 145 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:15,279 a COVID, under the COVID policy that Biden put out 146 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:20,759 a complete you know, uh trashing of the rules throughund 147 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:26,639 the abortion drug. And it you know, within two years, 148 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:29,279 within two years, it or less than two years. 149 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: It robbed the victory. And what is the victory. Yeah, 150 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,639 there's dubulation. It's children. It is a child. 151 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: It's also a mother that didn't didn't expect what she 152 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,559 would experience with the abortion drug, which is a horror 153 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:51,240 in her own home with her bathroom being her abortion center, 154 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,200 which she will live in and often has seen, and 155 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,879 then flush down the child down the toilet because. 156 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: Because what else, what are you gonna do? You know? 157 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: And so anyway, but the these the ribbing of that 158 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:08,759 success has real human consequences. 159 00:10:08,759 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: It takes a human toll. 160 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:15,799 Speaker 3: The political toll now is the kind of reinvigorating of 161 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,519 the movement once again to see you got to preserve 162 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:23,519 not only preserve this victory, which would entail rules around 163 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,919 the regulation to stop it going through the mail. That 164 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:30,519 that is the big, big deal. Require a doctor visit 165 00:10:30,639 --> 00:10:35,080 so you know what gestation, at what gestational age your 166 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,279 child is. No, if you have an ectopic pregnancy, no. 167 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: All sorts of the reason. 168 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: That's the reason you go to a doctor when you're pregnant, 169 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,360 even if you're gonna abort the child, you should at 170 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,519 least know any health contraindications. So none of that is happening. 171 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,399 Restore the that Now. We just had a press. 172 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: Conference with Josh Holly yesterday two days ago. 173 00:10:59,799 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: Yes, and that call in his legislation is to is 174 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:09,399 to take away the approval of the abortion drug completely 175 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,559 that the FDA. 176 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: Laid upon us. 177 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 3: So but at a minimum, at a minimum, restoring in 178 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,080 person dispensing would save hundreds of thousands of lives and 179 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,039 just as many women who experienced the horrors of this 180 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:27,919 abortion drug. 181 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to play a little bit of that 182 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:38,000 audio from that press conference. Senator Hawley had spoken introduced you, 183 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,759 and you had some very interesting things to say about 184 00:11:41,919 --> 00:11:46,000 the legislation and where we stand in the pro life 185 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,200 movement in this battle. Let's hear a little bit of 186 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,080 that audio here. 187 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: It is an outrage that these women standing here and 188 00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:57,519 all across the country, and men who love women have 189 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,879 been co opted into It is termed a feminist movement 190 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:08,080 that has absolutely abandoned women. Instead, they are absolutely attached 191 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,240 to the institution of abortion over the lives of women, 192 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:12,159 and it is. 193 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: Time to be heard. 194 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,039 Speaker 3: It is time for these women's stories, their real lives, 195 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,960 to be heard and made manifest in legislation that would 196 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,960 stop the madness. We searched and worked for fifty years 197 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,679 to have the handcuffs taken off of the people so 198 00:12:29,759 --> 00:12:31,080 that we could pass laws. 199 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:35,159 Speaker 2: To save lives. Twenty states acted courageously. 200 00:12:36,759 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: To fight for justice and love for children, and justice 201 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:41,480 and love for. 202 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,879 Speaker 2: Their mothers, and then what happened. 203 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: The pills unattached to any care flooded into all those 204 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,559 states and everywhere. So Gavin Newsom is determining policy in 205 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:55,639 pro life states. I think we all know what that means. 206 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,879 No justice for women, no justice for babies. 207 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,279 Speaker 1: This is a powerful bill, but given the state of 208 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,840 things and given the I don't know how else to 209 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:14,840 describe it. The intransigens at the FDA, where do you 210 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:18,159 think all of this is going well? 211 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: It is in and transigence at the FDA, it is 212 00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:27,440 as well under RFK Secretary Kennedy, but it ultimately is 213 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,399 in the White House. And at the White House it 214 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,679 is ultimately the President who has decided the abortion drug. 215 00:13:32,799 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: The abortion issue is a loser. 216 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,919 Speaker 3: A lot of other human rights movements have heard that 217 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:44,320 from their leaders. This one is particularly painful, especially because 218 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,799 the words at the March for Life say from Vice 219 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:52,919 President Vance and the words from the President are beautiful words, 220 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:56,720 They're compelling words. They don't communicate this is anything other 221 00:13:56,799 --> 00:14:02,879 than a human rights movement. So the common nation of compelling, motivate, 222 00:14:03,039 --> 00:14:08,919 beautiful words and zero action is callousness towards the issue, 223 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,639 which is very hard to see now. I always say that, 224 00:14:13,919 --> 00:14:17,679 and I don't say this to for any other reason 225 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,559 than to acknowledge reality, and that is that we wouldn't 226 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:22,480 be here with Roe returned. 227 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: If it weren't for this present. 228 00:14:23,919 --> 00:14:27,679 Speaker 3: But it particularly feels particularly cruel that once the door 229 00:14:27,759 --> 00:14:31,240 is open, that, because of the allowance of these abortion 230 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:33,919 drugs to go into pro life states, that the door 231 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,960 is slam shut once again, and slam shut in a 232 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,039 way that produces a back alley style worse than a 233 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,879 back alley abortion that abortion activists have always threatened. 234 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,799 Speaker 2: This one is hard. This one is truly hard. 235 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:52,399 Speaker 3: So I what we what we make of it? 236 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: What I think we ought to be thinking about is. 237 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,679 Speaker 3: What do we want in our future candidates? First of all, 238 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:03,600 how do we motivate demotivate pro lifers. Everyone has more 239 00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:05,799 than one issue we care about, but this is a 240 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,399 fundamental one and it's a. 241 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: Big demotivator to hear that it really matters. But I'm 242 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,200 going to do nothing. And so how do we motivate? Well, 243 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,120 I'll tell you how. 244 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: And it is that who we are helping are a 245 00:15:19,039 --> 00:15:23,000 great group of heroes. The senators that we're helping, the 246 00:15:23,039 --> 00:15:27,399 governors that we're helping. In battlegrounds, the House battlegrounds where 247 00:15:27,399 --> 00:15:31,759 we're fighting. We're fighting for people who are very strong advocates. 248 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:35,399 And while there's difficulty in the administration right now and 249 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,879 at the White House, we have incredible champions in the 250 00:15:38,919 --> 00:15:43,279 House and the Senate, and so that makes it that 251 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,559 makes it not easy because it's about how do you 252 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,200 get the word to every voter, which is what we're doing. 253 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:50,679 It means there's a contrast, and a contrast is a 254 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,720 gift that you must have in politics in order to 255 00:15:53,759 --> 00:15:55,240 motivate anybody to vote. 256 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not naive. I understand the laws rounding interstate commerce. 257 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,559 In this case, interstate commerce means murder. There's no other 258 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,879 way around that. I understand those realities, and you know 259 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,120 the push and pull of all of that. But what 260 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:20,159 happened to states' rights? You know, after Dobbs, you had 261 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:26,000 a number of states that put in significant restrictions on abortion, 262 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,919 and they had, according to the decision, every right in 263 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,440 the world to do that. When you have abortion drugs 264 00:16:34,559 --> 00:16:38,840 coming in by the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands 265 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:44,360 into these these states, what does that do to the 266 00:16:45,039 --> 00:16:50,600 you know, the constitutional separation of powers between the federal 267 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:51,639 and the state government. 268 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: It means that Gavin Newsom is in charge of the 269 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:59,639 laws of Alabama and South Carolina and Georgia and every 270 00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:01,679 other date that has a pro life law. It means 271 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,480 that his pushing of those pills into those pro life states, 272 00:17:05,519 --> 00:17:09,599 his insistence against the people and the and the duly 273 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,720 elected people of those states, his insistence that he knows 274 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:18,319 better than the voters of each of those states, is. 275 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,279 Speaker 2: A direct violation of the Constitution. 276 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: It is you have an outlawed in your state and 277 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,960 then sent in by other states. Clearly is a question 278 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:34,400 of how this gets fixed, not whether it's there are 279 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,960 the like I said, in the Senate and the House, 280 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,000 they're incredible. Their majority of the Senators and the one 281 00:17:42,079 --> 00:17:48,759 hundred and seventy five members of the House have have petitioned, begged, cajoled, 282 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,440 screamed out the FDA for help in this area. The 283 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,240 country's attorneys general from all of these almost all of 284 00:17:56,279 --> 00:18:00,279 these states have done the same. Louisiana has sued the 285 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,720 f D A two for its initial approval of the 286 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:07,839 drug because of the harms to women in those states, 287 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,319 and also, of course because their laws. 288 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: Are being undermined. 289 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,319 Speaker 3: So on every level, a constitutional level, a policy level, 290 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,480 a human level, let's just say arrogance level. Gavin Newsom 291 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,839 kind a direct message to the UH to the Attorney 292 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,119 General of Louisiana when she's suing the State of California, 293 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,920 and it was not not written in letters. He really said, 294 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,319 g f U, Well the g f Y, Yeah, g 295 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:39,119 f Y, which I am I going to say out loud, 296 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,599 which he tweeted at the State of Louisiana through the 297 00:18:43,839 --> 00:18:47,640 through the person of Liz Muriel, their incredible general, like 298 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,599 this is what I think. 299 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,559 Speaker 2: So that kind of. 300 00:18:49,599 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: Arrogance, that kind of arrogance, and and what it must 301 00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:56,839 not must not be put up with. 302 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: It just it just is an insane moment. 303 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: The only reason that a lot of people don't know 304 00:19:02,519 --> 00:19:05,920 about it is because the administration will not talk about it, 305 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,319 but the others will. 306 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: Well, we got to talk about it. I mean, I 307 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:17,240 know that SBA is definitely talking about it, and we 308 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:23,960 have this forum to talk about it. Understandably, you can see, 309 00:19:24,079 --> 00:19:28,400 you can feel the frustration out there. It is absolutely 310 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:34,000 palpable in the movement. And well, first and foremost, let's 311 00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:37,119 be clear on the record, Gavin Newsom is an absolute 312 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,319 creepy for many reasons, but he seems to be the 313 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:48,880 front runner for Democrats in twenty twenty eight the presidential campaign. 314 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,599 But listen, there are a lot of evils in the 315 00:19:53,640 --> 00:20:00,519 world today. It is breathtaking and demoralizing how many evils 316 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:03,880 there are in the world today. But I can't think 317 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:10,920 of anything more evil than what Gavin Newsom and JB. 318 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:17,960 Pritzker and other blue state abortion on demand governors have 319 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:25,359 done with abortion tourism since Dobbs. We're going to go 320 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,440 over some numbers on sentiments right now, but that has 321 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:34,279 got to hit people, doesn't it. Even people who are 322 00:20:34,519 --> 00:20:36,680 you know, kind of look warm on the subject. 323 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:39,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the sheer arrogance. 324 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:39,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 325 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: I think people who are lukewarm or undecided or and 326 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,839 then the as you mentioned, the polling is really changing 327 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,880 all this, they at least are ambivalent. They're not thinking 328 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:53,880 you are stealing women's healthcare, their ability to get antibiotics 329 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,759 and I am outraging and I'm going to send antibiotics 330 00:20:56,799 --> 00:20:57,480 into your state. 331 00:20:57,559 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: I don't care what you say. Clearly there is a 332 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,160 cognitive dissonance. 333 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,559 Speaker 3: They're not thinking through what most Americans are, which is, 334 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,240 you know, this is a This is at a minimum, 335 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:10,039 a difficult moral issue with which I've got to grapple. 336 00:21:10,839 --> 00:21:14,079 Are there two people? Are there two patients? What is 337 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,000 that thing that's happening in an abortion? 338 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: What is it? What is that thing? 339 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 3: That's what people are are are asking even more poignantly 340 00:21:21,759 --> 00:21:24,359 since Dobbs than they ever were before. And yet Gavin 341 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,160 Newsom and Kathy Hochel and all these others hopeel of 342 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,960 being the governor of New York. They are like the well, 343 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,880 I would say Gavin Newsom especially, he's like the arrogance 344 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,720 student government president that doesn't hear and never looks you 345 00:21:37,759 --> 00:21:40,799 in your face. He's looking beyond you, not seeing anybody 346 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:42,839 in the crowd. He just sees a crowd, not any 347 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,559 individuals in the crowd. And he's gonna with his arrogance 348 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:50,000 and will overstep he and I believe that that is 349 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,039 who he is, certainly on this and many other things. 350 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,160 You know, he's hoping to moderate on a few things, 351 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,720 to be a little bit more attractive, to be the 352 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,799 front runner, and maybe he'll succeed on this one. 353 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,559 Speaker 2: He won't. He can't. The base won't let him. 354 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:08,759 Speaker 3: And is he walking into exactly what happened in the 355 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:12,000 last presidential which was put all your chips on just 356 00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:12,839 the abortion issue. 357 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: Don't talk about anything. This is the only thing happening. Uh. 358 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,960 And then and. 359 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:22,039 Speaker 3: Then lose because you've over you've over evaluated what it 360 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:25,359 can do for your uh beyond your base. 361 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be extremely fatal given all that is 362 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,079 happening in the world today and the many concerns that 363 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,720 Americans have, both at home and obviously abroad. 364 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: We are officially in a market. Riptide with Iran. 365 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,759 Speaker 5: Who watched Out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 366 00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:53,680 Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and 367 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,519 the economy and how it affects your wallet. 368 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 4: If you have a good portfolio with good companies, just 369 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:01,519 get out of the way. Don't guess what's going to 370 00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:04,640 happen tomorrow. Do not fight the riptide. 371 00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 5: Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street, 372 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,119 it's affecting you financially. 373 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 4: Be informed. 374 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:10,839 Speaker 5: Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris 375 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,960 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 376 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: Our guest today is Marjorie Danenfelzer, President of Susan B 377 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:28,720 Anthony Pro Life America. On the fight for life in 378 00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:36,400 another critical election year. Yeah, it is amazing to see 379 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:43,960 that you have people so just absolutely callous to these 380 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:50,599 life issues that see, no, have no compunction about abortion 381 00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:54,079 all the way up to the time of birth in 382 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,000 so many of these cases. I mean, that's exactly what 383 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:01,000 they support. Maybe it's because they're SAT score weren't so high, 384 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,960 you know, you know, but there are there are a 385 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,400 lot of people who like yours truly, that didn't get 386 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:14,240 such great SAT and ACT scores. But we can see 387 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:15,240 what a life is, you know. 388 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think sometimes it's the overthinking that's the problem. 389 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,559 Speaker 2: It's the smarty pants that or the people who are 390 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:24,480 so sophisticated. 391 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,279 Speaker 3: That they're gonna use their arrogance, like the eugenics movement 392 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:28,240 that started the abortion movement. 393 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: You know, we are so smart. We want more people. 394 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: Like us, and we want fewer people like those people. 395 00:24:34,319 --> 00:24:36,240 They don't think like me, they don't look like me. 396 00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: They're from other places. 397 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: They're taking up space where I'd like to be, and 398 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:43,039 I'm kind of sick of them, and they're kind of yucky. 399 00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: Those are not. 400 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,079 Speaker 3: The words they use, but that's the that's the unsophisticated 401 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,400 way to describe the in crowd, the sophisticated crowd, like 402 00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:56,599 the like thinkers. In the like minded that were Margaret Sanger, 403 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,680 who started the head of the eugenics movement, who started 404 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,920 playing parenthood and was very clear that there were certain 405 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,680 acceptable and unacceptable people. This is in a straight line 406 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,920 legacy Gavin Newsom and Hotel in the heads of the 407 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,680 Democratic Party in general. I think that I wonder sometimes 408 00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:20,519 that the Vice gript the Democratic. 409 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,799 Speaker 2: Party has on the thinking on this topic. 410 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 3: With their candidates that if it just relaxed a tiny bit, 411 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,759 allowed moral conscience to flourish, just a tad then they 412 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:34,559 would actually do much better because at least they could say, 413 00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:38,480 and I'm not their advisor, but at least they could say. 414 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: Well, let's don't make people pay for it. 415 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: At least people are grappling with this morally, and while 416 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:48,279 there is an affordability crisis, maybe we shouldn't make them 417 00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:52,039 pay for abortions through their tax dollars. That seems reasonable. Also, 418 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:56,200 it seems reasonable then unless you're saving the life of 419 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,000 the mother or some other horrible thing, maybe we shouldn't 420 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,039 abortions in the last two trimesters, or maybe the last 421 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:05,640 trimester I mean, these are. 422 00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: Things that real human beings. 423 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:10,519 Speaker 3: Democrats, independence, Republicans, non political people at all. That's what 424 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,200 they're actually thinking. And Democrats are not allowed to move 425 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:18,759 and ioda ever since Obama. Even under Clinton it was 426 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,440 slightly marginally different, at least in his language. 427 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,839 Speaker 2: But now no way. So don't tell him that that 428 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:27,759 would be a great strategy. 429 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: For them to win the presidency if they get somebody 430 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,279 other than Gavin Newsom. 431 00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:33,759 Speaker 1: That's true, but I don't think we run any risk 432 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,200 of that. They quite frankly, because it's true. Yeah, And 433 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:45,359 here's why, Marjorie, Because not just Democrats, but people who 434 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,359 we're all we all fail, we all come. 435 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 5: Sure. 436 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure about this now. Listen, I've been around 437 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,960 the block a time or two at fifty plus here 438 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,000 and talk to your wife. Yeah, well she will tell you. 439 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,680 He will give you a list of all of my failings. 440 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,519 But that's but see, that's the thing is that you know, 441 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:12,039 if you have to think about as Democrats would have to, 442 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,359 would have to wrestle with this moral issue, if they 443 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,079 if they let any of that light come in, that's right, 444 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:26,599 it would break, It would start to melt, the callous 445 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,599 around the heart. 446 00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly what. I'm sorry, go ahead, Matt, I don't mean. 447 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,519 Speaker 1: No, no, but that's but that's what I see. And 448 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,799 I guess you know, your battle is the same no 449 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,559 matter what at Susan b. Anthony, and that is to 450 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,960 change hearts and minds, to go out there and and 451 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:50,240 really have conversations with people. But I look at the 452 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,799 latest Pew numbers, and you know, you have to deal 453 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:59,279 with the realities. According to the latest polling, the numbers 454 00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:04,759 are slightly down, but still about sixty percent of US 455 00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:09,039 adults say abortion should be legal in all or most cases. 456 00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:14,039 And that is a battle that never ends. 457 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 3: Well, you know, in that same poll, yeah, that that 458 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:21,000 is true, and the way poles are written always matters. 459 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: But if that that role number also. 460 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,599 Speaker 3: Matters, I'm not going to dismiss it. But in that 461 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,359 same poll, seventy six percent of Americans thought that there 462 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,319 should be some limits, right, And so that's what it 463 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,240 means to take somebody where they are in the fight 464 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:40,200 for the heart and fight for laws, and you start somewhere. 465 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,079 You know, as much as many of us want to 466 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,920 have it all, we have to start somewhere because not 467 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,039 everybody agrees with us. That's what we get taught when 468 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:54,799 mar in kindergarten, you even on something so important. Again, 469 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,599 every other human rights movement understood this, and I think 470 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,240 that's what you do. 471 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: So you you try to gain. 472 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,119 Speaker 3: You go where you make a law where consensus is, 473 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:11,839 where it's clear that consensus is. And then when that happens, 474 00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:14,960 people's I mean as a comfort to the cause, I 475 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,359 can say, then the yarn in the sweater starts to 476 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,039 pull and you're like, well, why did I think that 477 00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:24,759 I shouldn't pay for that while I could pay for 478 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,279 somebody else's antibiotic? Well, because it's different, Well how is 479 00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:29,799 it different? 480 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: Now? 481 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,599 Speaker 3: That's the kind of conversation that democrats won't allow. And 482 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,200 when you ever see a debate, doesn't matter who it is, 483 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,440 one of their consultants, one of their candidates, and one 484 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,480 of their actives are, they won't have the conversation about 485 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,079 what abortion is, what is that that is being taken out? 486 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,960 What is it that is when they lose, And that's 487 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,880 why they won't go there. They'll always just repeat there. 488 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,960 They're good at block and tackle, you know, oh, not 489 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000 going to go there. That's what cognitive dissonance really is. 490 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,119 That's literally what their brains either can't or won't go 491 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,119 there and won't allow it to integrate. So I anyway, 492 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:14,000 I think I think that's different from most people. And 493 00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:17,000 you know, the seventy five percent of the people who 494 00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:20,400 are really grappling with us who want seventy six percent 495 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,839 of the people who want some restrictions, what are those restrictions, 496 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,960 Let's talk about those. 497 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,039 Speaker 2: That's where you start. 498 00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:33,359 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think that's critically important in this election year. 499 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,640 So I guess that that's that's what I'd like to know. 500 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,359 You know, you talked about the eighty million dollars. That's 501 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,319 a lot into the changing of hearts and minds and 502 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:50,359 motivating people to get out and vote. How do you 503 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,319 do that in particular? What's the what's the ground game, 504 00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:55,200 what's the strategy? 505 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:55,519 Speaker 4: Like? 506 00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:59,519 Speaker 3: Well, first I'll wax a little cinnament about how amazing 507 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:01,920 these people on the ground are. I've never seen anything 508 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,079 like it. It's the closest thing we have to taking 509 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:10,000 this to the public square. Because it is door to door. 510 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,960 These conversations are more than you might think. You're there 511 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:16,799 to do your job to gain a vote. To draw 512 00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:22,599 a contrast, for instance, almost the numbers of people who 513 00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:24,559 think that you shouldn't aboord a baby when a child 514 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,400 feels pain or out the roof, and they tend that 515 00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,920 has been over the years, the thing that has really 516 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,039 been the greatest contrast, meaning our candidates believe that you 517 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,440 should you should at least do that. So that's like 518 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,200 twelve to fifteen weeks or so, is when a baby 519 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,720 starts to feel pain, contrasted with the other candidate who 520 00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:45,880 wants it up to the end, also wants you to 521 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,480 pay for it. 522 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: Both of those issues are very strong issues. 523 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,599 Speaker 3: They don't go away because they keep getting debated and 524 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,480 voted on over and over, including in this Congress. 525 00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:55,599 Speaker 2: So that. 526 00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: But there's also the human element, of course, in any 527 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,119 of these conversations, it's the most deeply human conversation you 528 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:08,480 could have, is about human life. And so very often 529 00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:11,799 you're going to find these incredible people who are going 530 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,160 door to door having a conversation with women who've had 531 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,920 abortions but never talked about them. Now they're leaning, they're 532 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,799 either leaning towards us, or they're already with us, that's 533 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,759 but might not vote. So that's who we're generally talking to. 534 00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:31,839 But many of us have had terrible experiences and some 535 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,759 people that are experiencing raw pain. 536 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: So I mean that is not the number one job. 537 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,359 Speaker 3: But I do really profoundly believe that the Spirit is 538 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,559 at these homes. When two or three are gathered together 539 00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:47,119 in his name, He's there too. You know, it's not 540 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,400 a religious visit. It's not you know, Mormon's coming to 541 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,440 visit and get you to go to church. It's about 542 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,000 a vote. But there's a lot going on there. And otherwise, 543 00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:03,359 to answer your question, we communicate in all ways via mail. 544 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: People still read their mail. 545 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: Actually there's last mail now, so some people actually do 546 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:08,160 read their mail. 547 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: We do through. 548 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 3: Texts, which everybody hates, but everybody reads, especially when it 549 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,359 gets close to the election. So every form and digital ads. 550 00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:21,240 So you've got the visual conversation in addition to the 551 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:25,559 written conversation, in addition to the human conversation, kind of 552 00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:28,680 the surround sound idea of how you communicate with a voter, 553 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,319 and that will happen in the Senate battlegrounds, a lot 554 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:37,039 of house battlegrounds and some gugnatorial battlegrounds. And one thing 555 00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:39,119 we haven't talked about, but you and I do a lot, 556 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,279 and that is about the importance of Iowa and South Carolina. 557 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,319 We've got a lot going on there for this election, 558 00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:50,799 but as everyone knows, Iowa and South Carolina are vital 559 00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:54,440 for twenty twenty eight and who our president is moving 560 00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:57,079 out of twenty twenty eight or the nominee is, and 561 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,799 hopefully president is the linchpin for the pro life movement 562 00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:05,759 in the future in terms of our ability to pass 563 00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:08,039 laws that will save lives and protect the laws that 564 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:09,079 are already in effect. 565 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: Is it a matter of getting using the technology as well? Uh, 566 00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:20,039 text messages? And I guess as you mentioned, it's it's 567 00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:25,760 finding people where where they are, wherever, wherever they're communicating, 568 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,079 wherever they whatever technology or whatever means of communication they're using, 569 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,199 this effort is targeting them. 570 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,639 Speaker 3: Is that where you want to be? And so they 571 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,159 and so what whatever kind of community. All those communication 572 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,000 methods that I that I mentioned are all saved within 573 00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:45,519 our with our system. Everybody who's going to door has 574 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:48,360 a tablet and they they the person at the door 575 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,119 knows they're going to write down what they've said. 576 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: They have this conversation. 577 00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: You know where they've landed, You find you if they 578 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,880 are willing, they say who they plan to vote for. 579 00:34:58,039 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: Then you make sure they vote. 580 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 3: You follow up, here's your absentee ballot information, and then 581 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,119 have you voted? 582 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: And then you nag like a mama, did you vote? 583 00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 3: Did you vote? Until that you know that they voted, 584 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,960 because we do know when they vote, because that's look, 585 00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:15,079 that's public information. Whether somebody has voted, you can't know 586 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,559 how they voted, right if you can know that they voted. 587 00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:20,440 And so then you move on to the next person. 588 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,800 That times ten and a half million, So that's a 589 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,559 lot ten and a half million voters in all those battlegrounds. 590 00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: Ten and a half million. 591 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 3: Uh and again those Senate Health Dounatorial battlegrounds, and so 592 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,000 it's a lot, and it's a massive network. Uh and uh, 593 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,719 I'm I just have to say when I say things 594 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,159 like that, because I'm sitting at home right now with 595 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,239 a broken foot. This is where the pro I this 596 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,440 is where this this is where this organization began, was 597 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,400 in my home and where it was really me. 598 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,199 Speaker 2: And there's only one reason that it succeeded, and it 599 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,000 is the truth. 600 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 3: At the part of this battle, and and and a 601 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,559 lot of people that had a lot more talent than I, 602 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,840 but the ability to grow and expand with technology and 603 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,519 human interaction and persuasion. 604 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: Is that's just. 605 00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 3: That is just what a human rights movement is. 606 00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:21,039 Speaker 2: And uh and we're we're in the middle of that. 607 00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 3: I really think we'll look back, maybe not you and me, 608 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,679 maybe our grandchildren and say, wow, that that was that 609 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,960 was something I was proud to live through. And I'm 610 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,519 proud I was on the right side of it. 611 00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:39,519 Speaker 1: Well, part of it is working through pain literally, as 612 00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:42,679 you noted in your case, but you are you are, like, 613 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,800 you know, it's it's March Madness time. 614 00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:47,159 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, and you know Duke is the 615 00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:48,480 only candidate out there. 616 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: Well that's that's that's what I hear. I know some 617 00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:57,039 Wolverine fans who might disagree, and this Wisconsin Badger fan 618 00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:00,000 might have something to say about long long shots and clues, 619 00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:01,880 but oh, you know, this time of the year, you 620 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,320 got to play through the pain. 621 00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: That's right. 622 00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:08,079 Speaker 1: You've had a long season, but the battles has just begun, 623 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,320 and you know you're kind of like that, you know, well. 624 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 6: Player, yeah, well, you know, I'm being honest, like, I 625 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,800 have never been more excited than I am about the 626 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,760 presidential twenty twenty eight campaign. 627 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,159 Speaker 3: That must make some people just feel tired to hear that, 628 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,639 but not me, because because it has so much potential 629 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,519 to absolutely steer the direction of this country on this 630 00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:40,440 one issue that is the right, the first right that 631 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,840 anyone will ever have, is the right to live. And 632 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:48,559 who the president is will be the person who establishes 633 00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:51,239 the legacy of the Dobbs decision. The post row era, 634 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,440 it either just kind of fizzled out and states kind 635 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,239 of did stuff, and then it got undermined with bills 636 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,840 and stuff, and then everybody kind of forgot about the issue, 637 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,079 which nobody will ever forget about it, but it'll just 638 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:01,239 kind of feedback. 639 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 2: I don't believe the movement will allow that. 640 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,679 Speaker 3: But what what I think can happen because of the 641 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,239 how riveting this issue, how true it is, how central 642 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,880 it is, is that we will have a presidential candidate. 643 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,280 They're going to have to prove it to the Iowa 644 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,079 and South Carolina voters, but we will have a candidate 645 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,760 who will be a national pro life leader. I believe 646 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,800 that will be true. I believe in the people who 647 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,920 are running that they well, let me just say this, 648 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:28,559 I think that they will know that they're going to 649 00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:31,360 need to be that person in order to win the nomination. 650 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:37,000 And that is for anybody who loves the gifts that 651 00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:43,480 the founders gave us to influence and change deeply fundamentally 652 00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:44,360 wrong things. 653 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,599 Speaker 2: That's the best. That's one of the best gifts you 654 00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:47,079 can ever have. 655 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,559 Speaker 3: Iowa, of course, is the first of all, and I 656 00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:56,199 know you're proud of that, and by uh. And so 657 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,440 without two of the three primary states, without winning two 658 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,159 out of those three, you you simply can't get You 659 00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:08,360 can't win the nominations. So being a will we are, 660 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,360 we are and will be in Iowa South Carolina. 661 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 2: For quite some time. 662 00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,519 Speaker 1: It is critical to get off to a good start. 663 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,679 And that's why you have so many of these candidates 664 00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:23,519 basically taking up residents in Iowa for the better part 665 00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:26,239 of eighteen months. Yeah, you'll be you will be here 666 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,079 often as well. 667 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 2: I know that for sure, only because they are right exactly. 668 00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And of course the Democrats have absolutely 669 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,960 given up on Iowa, but the Republicans holding firms. So 670 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,639 that's going to be a huge part of this as 671 00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:43,760 it has been for a long time. Are you at 672 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,719 all concerned back to kind of where we started, that 673 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,760 we're going to have some pro life voters this year 674 00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:55,320 taking it out on Trump, you know, basically taking it 675 00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,880 out on Trump through candidates on you know, on the ballot, 676 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,079 Republican candidates, Conservative candidates on the ballot who just did 677 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:10,519 not step up. More so for the right to life fight. 678 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 2: It's a moment to stand up if you didn't stand up. Yes, 679 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,119 it's a problem, I think. 680 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 3: And our polling has showed that we did a big 681 00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:22,559 national signal poll in over sampled Iowa in South Carolina, 682 00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:26,159 and what we see is that weakening on this issue, 683 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:29,400 specific ones like the hot amendment, like the abortion drug 684 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,000 weakening on it makes thirty two percent of the people 685 00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:37,599 less likely to vote period, thirty four percent less likely 686 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,039 to volunteer. But you know, huge numbers like seventy and 687 00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:47,400 over think this is important, an important part, and very 688 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,239 influential in their vote and whether they vote in the 689 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:50,800 next election. 690 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: So the answer to that is yes, I have no 691 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,320 doubt about that. That's a problem. Where I have great 692 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,440 faith though. 693 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 3: Is this intensity of this move to make sure and 694 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,039 the work I'm specifically doing to make sure that voters 695 00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:05,960 know actually what they're voting on. They're not voting on 696 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,679 who's the president in twenty four they're voting on who 697 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,360 will be their senator, who will be their governor, who 698 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,159 will be the lynchpin House member in their state, to 699 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,920 either keep the slim margin in the House, to keep 700 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,679 the pro life majority in the Senate, and most importantly 701 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,760 on pro life laws immediately, who will your governor be? 702 00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: That is what it will be about. 703 00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 3: And it takes that constant communication, which people say they hate, 704 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,880 but then most people don't seem to know what's going 705 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,559 on until the very last minute, that constant communication about 706 00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:48,320 the contrast between the candidates, and that is what if 707 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,960 you don't start way out like we have done already, 708 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,199 you're competing with so much that the message might not 709 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:55,760 get through. 710 00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:57,199 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a problem. 711 00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 3: Yes we have the power to kind of pierce through 712 00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,800 that problem to reality, which is who are you actually 713 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,400 voting on? 714 00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: So a final question for you as we look ahead 715 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,519 and November will be here, as you know, before we 716 00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:15,760 know it. Yeah, it's it just that's the way it is. 717 00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:19,559 And there is a very as we know, a very 718 00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:24,360 slim window of opportunity for anything substantial to get done 719 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,639 in Washington, d C. Before we hit campaign season. But 720 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:35,280 what happens if Conservatives lose the House, of what happens 721 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,239 if they also, by chance lose the Senate in twenty twenty. 722 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:44,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to go from March madness to Halloween's surprise, right, 723 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,559 you know Halloween there's always some big thing that put 724 00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:48,880 somebody puts out there on a candidate and nobody has 725 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,960 a chance to respond. So in that space of time 726 00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:54,480 it'll all get determined and and there's a lot in between. 727 00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:56,679 But as you as you say, the bottom line will 728 00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:57,679 be on that day. 729 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 2: And if we you know, we've got what. 730 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,039 Speaker 3: A one vote margin in the House, and we're historically 731 00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,559 in a tough place, meaning we've got a sitting president 732 00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:09,480 who's a Republican, and it's a Republican majority. People are 733 00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:13,079 voting any disgruntlement and around the edges kind of mitigates 734 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:16,239 against the Republicans. So, I mean, it will take a 735 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,159 lot of work, and so that will be tough if 736 00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:23,639 we lose either if we lose the House, we lose 737 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,480 the best speaker we've ever had. 738 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,159 Speaker 2: In Mike Johnson. 739 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: Hands down, There's never been another speaker, believe it or not, 740 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,079 I have been here since Tip O'Neil really an incredible man, 741 00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:39,400 a great human being. That politics is not near the 742 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,880 first reason that he's involved in all of this, And 743 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,920 I think anybody who knows about him or knows him 744 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,719 knows that that loss in itself, him as an advocate 745 00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:51,480 and him at the center of policies would be huge 746 00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:52,000 for life. 747 00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: To lose him as the speaker. 748 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,559 Speaker 3: And as a backstop for every whatever the administration weakens something. 749 00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:03,800 We need the House to be strong and to make 750 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,320 up for it and to press. If there's a problem 751 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,960 on the High Amendment, you know, the keeping taxpayer footing 752 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,159 out of abortion, which the House has a lot to 753 00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:13,440 do with, it'd be a big problem. Nobody wants to 754 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,079 pay for abortion through their taxes. In the Senate, of 755 00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:21,199 course equally important in the overall battle everything for what 756 00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:24,480 bills get sent to the president. But also because in 757 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,320 that space of years there will be many judges confirmed. 758 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,719 We don't know what level. It could be, as high 759 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:35,320 as a Supreme Court. So really the consequences are not 760 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,239 medium for a midterm. They're still and they're still very strong, 761 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,760 and taken in conjunction with who the next president is 762 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:48,199 will determine whether the president that we hope is. We 763 00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:50,320 don't know literally who he is, but hopefully he is 764 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,199 a good, strong pro life president, whether he'll have a 765 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,000 team or not, an ability to do anything or not. 766 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,679 And I think a lot of people who are listening 767 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,960 here are like, oh, yeah, you know. 768 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,119 Speaker 2: We get and then we don't get. 769 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 3: To do anything, And that really misses a lot and missus. 770 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,679 Our disappointment should not outshadow two things. 771 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 2: One is the. 772 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 3: Opportunity to make an enormous difference on life and on 773 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,760 other policies too, and that what a really great, strong 774 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,119 president who's compelling with the leader of the country but 775 00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:26,119 also in the House and sidate what they could do. 776 00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:30,360 And it also misses the point what the Democrats will 777 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,480 do and the life issue. I can tell you first up, 778 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,400 they have no problem legislating on this on a federal level. 779 00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:42,239 They will absolutely press if they've got the House, Senate 780 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,519 and presidency immediately they will pass a law that will 781 00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:48,559 strike down every pro life protection in every state across 782 00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:52,599 the country, even medium level ones in states like you know, 783 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,000 like Virginia or Illinois. You know, just kind of tiny 784 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000 little things that you take for granted. So it'd be 785 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,480 absolute on this issue in many others. 786 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can set your watch by it. Just like 787 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,320 you can set your watch that if Democrats get the 788 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,559 House back, they're going to impeach Donald Trump. 789 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,039 Speaker 3: Yes, because that's. 790 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,639 Speaker 2: What they do, what they did, will spend all their 791 00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:14,360 time doing that. 792 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: Yep, exactly. And I have to tell you, you put 793 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,079 me in the way back machine talking about Tip O'Neill, 794 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,559 and I want to tell you the old speaker back 795 00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:29,920 in the nineteen eighties. I wonder what he would think 796 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,559 of his party today. I just I think about those things. 797 00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 3: It would make his head spin. I think he must 798 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,320 be spinning in his grave over over one thing we 799 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,639 all know, anybody who ever knew of him, was his civility, 800 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:48,440 Like he fought hard, but he was not a mean 801 00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:52,880 human being. And then also his party was mostly pro life, 802 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,480 including him a lot of the time, and all the 803 00:46:56,519 --> 00:47:01,159 appropriations chairmen, all the couple were pro life. Allowed that 804 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,239 to flourish because he believed it was a matter of conscience. 805 00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:06,599 So he would hate what he sees on this right now. 806 00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: I think it would turn his hair black. You know, 807 00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:18,760 he had that big quiff hair, you know, so the silver. 808 00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:22,679 Speaker 2: Fox I know, Oh, I know, he was very likable, 809 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,840 he really was. Yeah. 810 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,599 Speaker 1: Indeed, Well, the fight is critical as you mentioned, it 811 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:34,840 is foundational. It is the first of the promises of 812 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,679 the Declaration of Independence. As we celebrate two hundred and 813 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,440 fifty years life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And 814 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,320 you can't have the other two without the foundation of 815 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,719 life and a country that has the moral fortitude to 816 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,559 protect it. Thanks to my guest today, Marjorie Danenfelzer, president 817 00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,679 of Susan B. Anthony Pro Life America, listening to another 818 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,960 edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle's senior 819 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,760 elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. 820 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,840 Until then, stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the 821 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:26,760 fray