WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.680 You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:08.039 a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every 3 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:11.519 thirty one. Do you wish to report a UFO over hey, 4 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:15.560 we want to one of those areas thirty one. Do 5 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:17.320 you wish to find a report of any kind of it? 6 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.039 I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds. 7 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:23.120 Time areas thirty one? 8 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:24.960 Me neither there. 9 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:29.960 See if it was anybody a U above us to 10 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:32.280 pass us, like thirty seconds ago, we. 11 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:37.960 Were sending one of golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO. Yeah, 12 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:39.719 it's murder two nine o'clock. 13 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:42.759 Yes, I'll just passed over God. 14 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:45.079 I don't know what it was, but it's from at 15 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:47.079 least to three thousand feet above us. 16 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:48.600 See, I passed out over the top of US. 17 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:51.679 Ninety one one. 18 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:58.320 Guy, you just called both to me before they're after staying. 19 00:00:58.039 --> 00:00:59.159 The airplanes. 20 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:07.159 Here to God on an unidentify object every liberty four 21 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.200 call or calm on an unidentified flying object. 22 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share 23 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 24 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:26.519 an encounter, I would like to be on the show. 25 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:32.519 You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 26 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:51.319 Hello everyone, and welcome to this show. I hope you've 27 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.519 all had an enjoyable week. I'm Nick Hunter and this 28 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:58.760 is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight's guest is a calling 29 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:02.840 from Midlovian in Scotland. In nineteen seventy eight, a group 30 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:07.879 of childhood friends Anne, Pamela, Mary and two others experienced 31 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:11.240 a traumatic encounter during a walk along an old railway 32 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:15.240 line in Newton Grange. They described encountering a free foot 33 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:19.520 talk creature with bright yellow eyes, greenish marine skin, and 34 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:24.520 no visible mouth. The creature communicated telepathically advising them not 35 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:28.719 to be afraid. Following this, the friends blacktout and later 36 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:32.080 found themselves in a field nearby, with no memory of 37 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:34.840 how they got there. Pamela and Mary have been kind 38 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:37.759 enough to send their voice submission of their experience, which 39 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:42.039 is also included in this episode and is up next. 40 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:44.759 But first, if you enjoy the show and you would 41 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.680 like to help support the podcast on Patreon, you can 42 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:50.039 do this for as little as one dollar a month. 43 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:53.840 Head on over to patreon dot com forward slash UFO 44 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:56.599 Chronicles podcast. You can also find a link in the 45 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:59.960 description of this episode. Any help is very much appreciate. 46 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:01.919 Now on with the show. 47 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:22.240 Hello and welcome to the podcast. Hello, it is great 48 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:25.800 to have you join us today. And you're calling from Scotland. 49 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:31.919 Yeah, I'm phoning from Scotland, just outside Edinburgh, a small 50 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:33.840 place called Middle of Theian. 51 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:39.360 Middle of and wonderful stuff. Everyone knows Edinburgh. Yeah, Now, 52 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:42.479 you and your friends had an experience back in the 53 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:45.560 late nineteen seventies. Would you like to start at the 54 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:46.800 beginning please, ma'am. 55 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:51.319 Yes, I will do well. My name's Ann and I 56 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:56.039 loved in a place called Suttersley, which was a very 57 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:59.840 small place at the time, around fifty four house season 58 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.240 total that were prefab houses at the time before they 59 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:08.280 got done up. Now, Curtis Lee is in between Mayfield 60 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:13.560 and Newton Grange, but it's classed as Nooton Grange. So 61 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:17.560 there was five of us on the day. It was 62 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:21.800 around nineteen seventy eight and we all lived and were 63 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:27.240 brought up in Sutis Lee. So there was myself, my 64 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:34.560 sister Mary, Pamela and one of the other neighborhood kids 65 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:40.040 that was there. It was a normal day and we 66 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:45.680 took my dog Tanya a walk, which was a normal 67 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:49.879 occurrence for us, So we always walked her down at 68 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.079 an old dish used railway line which sat at the 69 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.480 bottom of Sutus Lee. So we went or down one 70 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.959 way and we were just walking along. It was day 71 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.879 light because I was aged eight at the time. We 72 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:05.680 were all aged between eight ten year old. We're not 73 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:09.959 allowed do it at nighttime. So we're walking Tanya. Everything 74 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:14.959 seemed absolutely normal until awly of a sudden, it was 75 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:21.319 far phenomal. Tanya, who was a beautiful, beautiful, really quiet dog, 76 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:29.000 very placid, she started going crazy, wildly barking, which was 77 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.600 completely out of character. We'd never heard her do that, 78 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:36.560 so she started doing that. We looked up at this 79 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:41.959 tree and looking back at us was a site that 80 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:47.160 I will never ever forget. I've never forgotten it since 81 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:53.040 there was a being that was a estimate round about 82 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:58.319 three foot tall. It was sitting on a branch in 83 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:04.879 the tree. Now, it had a really skinny body, really 84 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:09.480 skinny legs, a bigger head, but it's the eyes, the 85 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:15.040 eyes I'll never ever forget. It had huge, bright yellow 86 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:21.879 and I mean bright yellow, glowing yellow eyes. It also 87 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:27.439 had pointed ears, which sounds bizarre, but it had pointed 88 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.600 ears like at the side of its head pointed sort 89 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:35.199 of no straight up but backwards, but large pointed ears. 90 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:39.639 I was frozen in fear. I know, we were all 91 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:42.720 completely frozen in fear. It's seeing this. We knew it 92 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:46.240 wasn't human, it was the animal, nothing at like that. 93 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:51.240 So we're standing there frozen and could not take my 94 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:55.319 gaze away from those eyes. Now. I don't know if 95 00:06:55.639 --> 00:07:00.120 it hypnotized us or what it was that could they 96 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:05.000 look away through those eyes. And then we all heard 97 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:10.240 the message that it gave. Now, I don't remember its 98 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.319 mouth moving, so whether it was a telepathic message, I 99 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:16.160 don't know, but we all heard the exact same thing, 100 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:20.199 and it was what I can only describe now as 101 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:22.680 an adult because we had never heard anything like it 102 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:28.519 back then in the seventies, as a very synthesized vibraton tone, 103 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:34.480 and its words were, do not be afraid. I will 104 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:35.639 not harm you. 105 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:37.439 Now. 106 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:44.959 My next memory after hearing those words was standing two 107 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:51.279 fields away from the railway track, no recollection running, and 108 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:55.879 none of the other girls did that. We're standing two 109 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:59.279 fields away, and I remember us all even as kids, 110 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:04.759 making a pact that we must never speak about what 111 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:08.800 we've seen would never tell anybody, and we were never 112 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:12.480 even to discuss it between each other, which as an 113 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:16.680 adult thinking back now, how did we even know to 114 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:23.560 make that pact? Is bizarre and memory now as an adult, 115 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:27.600 and I think about this a lot is from Tanya 116 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:35.080 going crazy barking to us seeing those eyes. I cannot 117 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:39.919 remember hearing Tanya back at that point. I don't know 118 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:43.559 what happened with her going crazy, but there's name memory 119 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:49.840 hearing Tanya going crazy once we've seen that being so 120 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:55.799 that was round nineteen seventy eight. Now, none of us 121 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:59.600 ever did talk about it, even amongst each other. It 122 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:03.879 was mentioned again. We just remember we just went home 123 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:10.759 now about twenty twenty. I mean, I've never ever forgotten. 124 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:17.399 A couple of years after that encounter, I started getting 125 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:22.440 night terrors. Now I've been having the exact same night 126 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:27.320 terror ever since, and I'll explain to you how it goes, 127 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:29.960 because it's always the exact same one that's rendered me. 128 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:34.080 I'm terrified to sleep, even sleeping tablets, Dinny knock me out. 129 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:39.840 I'm terrified. But in the night terror, I am in 130 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:48.159 a room and I'm screaming for help, gone round the walls, 131 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:54.000 touching frantically trying to feel feel around myself, and I'm screaming, 132 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:57.639 please please help me. There's no windows, there's hold on. 133 00:09:57.639 --> 00:10:03.799 I'm sorry, screaming for help. There's no windows, there's no doors, 134 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:09.399 and I kind of get out. Now this has been 135 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:13.279 the exact same night terror for me that's happened through 136 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:19.559 the last forty six years since that event happened. Now, 137 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:25.799 about twenty years ago, I was at my sister's house, 138 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:30.000 who was living down the Border's Way, and we were 139 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:33.639 standing outside near our horses with the blue She just 140 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.320 said to me this day and do you remember what 141 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:41.480 happened that day? And I knew exactly what she was 142 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:44.799 going to say, did you remember what happened that day 143 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:48.879 doing the tissues railway line? And I instantly said, I 144 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:53.360 I'll never forget. I've never forgotten. And she had never forgotten. 145 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:57.279 And she said to me, what was that thing that 146 00:10:57.559 --> 00:11:01.320 happened that was real? And I said, I it was 147 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:04.840 and she said, I've never ever forgotten those eyes or 148 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:08.600 the why it sounded that says neither of a And 149 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:11.639 it was a very short conversation. We we're being still 150 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.200 quite frightened. That's the first that I'd ever been mentioned 151 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:17.799 since that day, and even when I was driving home 152 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:21.639 after having that short conversation, I was a bit worried. 153 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.639 I was thinking, we've spoken about that, and we were 154 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:27.600 never to speak about that. So that was that. And 155 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:32.440 then I was I've started back then in the seventies, 156 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:37.000 we never even heard aliens. It just was never thing, 157 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:40.720 was nothing at all. So I started thinking this, you 158 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:43.759 see things on Facebook and not add rest it about 159 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:48.159 a little alien stuff and always have and it is 160 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:51.799 the right shaped eyes, but everything I see it's the 161 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:56.120 big black eyes and gray people. Now what we've seen 162 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:00.159 didn't have black eyes. The ice shape was right. The 163 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:06.279 eyes are glowing yellow ney pew pil nay, whiteness, just 164 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:13.120 pure yellow is what the eyes are. So I'd started 165 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:15.840 to trying to have a look as anybody else ever 166 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:19.519 seen the yelly eyes like what we witnessed that day. 167 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:23.960 And the closest thing ever sort of found and it's 168 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.759 a it's sort of close, but no exactly was. I 169 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:32.639 found a thing called the Kelly Hopkins bill Encounter, that's 170 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:36.120 what it was called. It's an American thing at a 171 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:40.759 farmhouse in America somewhere, I believe in the fifties that 172 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:44.320 a group of people that were there had witnessed these 173 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:50.279 creatures with the glowing yelly eyes, and they'd done sketches 174 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.879 what they had seen, but in their sketches the eyes 175 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:58.360 were sort of round and further apart in the head, 176 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:00.879 and that's not what we've seen. So it was just 177 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:04.360 the glowing yelly was really the same sort of similarity 178 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.679 and the sort of size up this thing. So we've 179 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:15.200 been looking at that now. We all drifted apart as 180 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:21.399 kids very very quickly. And although Mary was my next 181 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:24.600 door neighbor, Pamela lived at the top of the road. 182 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:30.399 I hadn't seen or spoke to Pamela in forty six years. 183 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.440 I had seen Mary Faw time to time, but we 184 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:38.519 never ever spoke about what happened that day. I did 185 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:40.480 try and approach it where a couple of times and 186 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:43.879 a kent she wasn't ready to talk about it. So 187 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:50.759 I eventually I'd put things on Facebook about the experience 188 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:54.960 that had happened, and Pamela got in touch with me 189 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:59.720 and said I was there. She was there, so she 190 00:13:59.919 --> 00:14:03.360 was ready to talk and we had a few conversations, 191 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:09.600 me Mary and Pamela. Because my sister and me are estranged. 192 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:13.360 Now I've not spoken to my sister in about fifteen years. 193 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:18.000 And the other kid that was there, I'm going to 194 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.039 get a name because they've no consented to a bit. 195 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:23.960 Pamela hus and Mary has consented to me using their names. 196 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:31.679 So we eventually decided to get together. I'd ask the girls, 197 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:35.360 can we please get together so as we can all 198 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:39.320 discuss what each of us can remember that day, I says, 199 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:42.399 because I'm sure you you might remember things I can 200 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:46.440 remember and likewise, so it's take quite a lot of plan. 201 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:49.799 And then just about a month a month month and 202 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:53.639 a half ago, way three of us did meet up 203 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:59.360 at the location at the side of the Issues railway line. Now, 204 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.159 even as we were going there, I had done an 205 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:05.240 easy feeling. I know Pamela had done an easy feeling, 206 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.480 as did Mary. Pamela said she was walking down the 207 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:11.679 road towards it and she was looking at the cars 208 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:15.480 and she was just thinking, please, don't any of these 209 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:17.720 cars come off and kill me before I get there. 210 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:21.080 That's how much we were terrified to talk about it. 211 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:25.159 So we met up and see there hellos and everything. 212 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:27.360 Like I say, I hadn't even seen Pamela in forty 213 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:30.320 six years. So it was nice to see you. And 214 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.919 we started talking about what we remembered. 215 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:35.120 Now. 216 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.159 I had said about the eyes, and they all remember 217 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:44.639 the glowing yelly eyes. They remember the ears. Now. I 218 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:49.080 could never remember what color its body was that Mary 219 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:52.879 and Pamela or one of them remembered. It was a 220 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:58.120 greenish brownish color a body. It was very, very skinny. 221 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:01.039 And Mary said that she can remember it was sort 222 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:06.240 of clinging, clinging onto the branch, if that makes any sense. 223 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:10.039 It was sort of clinging, she said. She remembered so 224 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:15.159 as we were talking, and then Ad said, as soon 225 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:19.559 as we'd heard that message, I says, I remember us 226 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:22.759 standing two fields up and they BAF looked to each 227 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:28.000 other and said, no, that's nowhere we were standing, they said, 228 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.559 and they were. The BAEF said it was a completely 229 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:35.759 different location that they ended up. They said, we were 230 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:40.919 over there. Now, I've got absolutely no memory whatsoever he 231 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.360 been at this first location. And then they said, Mary said, 232 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:50.000 after them at the first location, and no, Kennan how 233 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:53.480 they got there. Mary said, then they were at the 234 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:57.320 second location, which is a location that as far as 235 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:01.080 I'm aware, that's the only location that I ended up. 236 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.440 But they said that was the second location that ended up, 237 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:06.799 but they don't know how they got there, and that's 238 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:11.000 when they made the pact to never ever talk about 239 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:17.759 what had happened that day. Now, from the seventy eight 240 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:21.440 I've looked back at pictures of me as a younger kid, 241 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:25.160 and I had like neymark or anything on my forehead. 242 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:29.920 But since then, I have got a lump and it's 243 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:36.240 dead center in my forehead. And it happened after that encounter. Now, 244 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:40.880 I don't know if there is something in there, but 245 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:44.319 I believe there is. I've always believed there is something 246 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:49.799 something there. Now after speaking to the girls, like I say, 247 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.599 just a month ago, I remember all these years that 248 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:58.200 that's passed, and with the night terrors that I've never 249 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:02.200 wanted to believe what I now believe after they're talking 250 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:05.960 to the girls. I've always put it down to is 251 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:10.200 that my brain's way trying to cope with what happened 252 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:13.920 to us that day, or was it something else? And 253 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:17.440 then since speaking to the girls and named Beef saying 254 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:22.519 no that it was a completely different location before the 255 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:26.920 location that I can remember being, I am one hundred 256 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:31.640 percent convinced that it took us. Now and I also 257 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:36.799 believe that my night terrors are actual memories off where 258 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.279 it took us. I think it's it's memories. Nay, wind, 259 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:45.119 these need doors, screaming, pushing around this wall type thing, 260 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.920 and I just can'd of get out. And that's what 261 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.720 I truly believe that we were taking. For what reason, 262 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:56.440 I don't know, because we were just kids, and we 263 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.599 have spoke about, well, why did it Why did it 264 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:02.279 pick up us to see it? Because obviously did pick 265 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:06.400 us to see it, and Pamela had said maybe because 266 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.920 we were kids, and because if we did ever tell 267 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:15.759 then they would believe us, which is a possibility. I mean, 268 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:19.839 I just I don't know, but it definitely happened. And 269 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:23.559 people have said since then, oh, was it an owl 270 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:27.200 that you've seen in the tree? What we've seen in 271 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:31.079 that tree was not an owl, It was not an animal. 272 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:35.079 It was not anybody dressed up or anything like that. 273 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:40.880 That was a being, not of this world that we encountered. Now, 274 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:45.519 that was a face to face with communication, and none 275 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:49.119 of us have ever forgotten that, and we never ever will. 276 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:54.920 So that was basically that's that whole encounter, the yellow 277 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:59.640 eide being what it looked like. And I can only 278 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:02.680 tell you what it looks like through the icey how 279 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:04.920 I was when I was about eight year old. It 280 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:09.160 looked like a terrifying elf like creature. That is what 281 00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:12.000 it looked like. But it's skinny body and the big 282 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:15.720 head and the huge eyes. That's what it looked like 283 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:20.680 to me. I've had another a few things happen over 284 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:25.680 the years since then, but nothing on that sort of scale. Well, 285 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:30.279 it might be connected, it might know. But I remember 286 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:35.319 I was about twenty three twenty four, and I was 287 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:39.640 in a flat and Mayfield and my first daughter was 288 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:43.000 just a baby at the time. Now my mom had 289 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:49.759 given me a double bed. Now, my dad had dropped 290 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:53.680 dead a day after match about first birthday. And oh, 291 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:57.599 really sorry to say it, but I'd washed Stumpy to 292 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:00.160 drop dead. I'd say that many times, saying that that's 293 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.079 why I did that. My dad had broke dead the 294 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:06.839 after my twenty first and when the ambulance people came, 295 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.920 the lady's dead body on that bed, which is the 296 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:14.079 bed that my mum gave to me when I was 297 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:17.880 twenty three and starting looting this flat. Now, I remember 298 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.759 this night, I'd just got to bed and I wasn't 299 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:25.759 sleeping I'd only just got into bed, lay down, and 300 00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:29.960 I felt an immense weight on my chest that I 301 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.480 couldn't move. Now, there is a word for it, but 302 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:36.200 I can't remember what the word does. But it was 303 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:39.559 a real weight on my chest. I couldn't move at all. 304 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:43.279 And then I could see a mist right over the 305 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:47.599 top of me. And that lasted for probably a few minutes. 306 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.039 I was frightened, but no terrified at that And I 307 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:53.920 got up after I was able to get up, and 308 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:57.000 I phoned my mum and I says, Mom, this has 309 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:01.480 just happened, and she says ken, I says, I think 310 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:03.640 it might have been Dad. I said it was a 311 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:06.720 missed but I think it was Dad, and she said, 312 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:11.039 Donny worry, it's all right. So it's right right, okay. 313 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.640 And then years after that was about forty I'd been 314 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:21.119 married and then a horrible, horrible, abusive relationship. Now I'd 315 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:24.319 been given Remy Mac and toss clock, but it was 316 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:27.200 a replica. It wasn't it the real deal. Been given 317 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:31.839 that as a wedding present. Now it Hudney worked for years, 318 00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:37.359 in years, and then eventually I got out to that 319 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:42.200 relationship through horrible, horrible circumstances. And I looked at this 320 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:46.359 clock that hadney worked in years, and it was ticking. 321 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:49.400 It was ticking, and it was at the exact time 322 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:52.799 that it was meant to be at. I thought, that's 323 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.039 really really weird. How's that? And I took the clock 324 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:58.279 off the wall and it didn't even have a battery. 325 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:02.039 And and that is a that it's time to start 326 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:05.279 living again. So that I wasn't frightened to that either. 327 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:08.759 I've also had a few things in the house where 328 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:13.079 I'm in now, like mirrors falling where they should have 329 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:17.160 smashed and onely smashed and in completely different places, pictures 330 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:20.480 flying off the wall, and like in dent and into 331 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:24.039 another part of the wall that my girls were frightened 332 00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:26.920 at that obviously because that was in their room. That 333 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:29.240 just says them, can look it's all right. And I 334 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:32.240 just spoke out, I said, looking, me and anybody any harm, 335 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:35.839 just leave us a lane. So that was that was 336 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:39.240 that kind of any of this is connected or no, 337 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:46.160 but my body temperature. Now I'm going back decades since 338 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:50.319 I was started being like in relationships where guys that 339 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:54.039 I was used to say to me, we can't sleep beside, 340 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:57.640 you can't you sleep beside you because you boil hope, 341 00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:01.160 like you can't even touch you boil hop And I'm 342 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:03.960 not talking menopause. I mean, I'm now nearly fifty five. 343 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:07.079 I'm going back to when they first starting day and 344 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:10.319 you're getting your your first boyfriends, tying or alos or whatever. 345 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:13.519 And I've heard that way quite a few people, including 346 00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:16.839 the guy that was married to can why you used 347 00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:18.720 to boil and hopefully that you just can't need to 348 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:22.359 lie next to you you're boiling. And whether that's going 349 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.559 it in today they encounter that day, I don't know. 350 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:30.480 Now I'll go back to the encounter. So after the 351 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:34.720 girls and I had spoken and we'd spoken at length, 352 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:40.119 we'd all say, kin, if anybody wants to give us 353 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:44.359 why detectors, we would be willing to day lie detectors 354 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:46.960 or us because we can for a fact we would 355 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:51.079 pass it. But we've never heard anybody like take us 356 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:55.039 seriously enough to even say kind of like, oh, let's 357 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.039 go and have a look at this place. Let us 358 00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:58.759 go and see this tree. And in the ken of 359 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.559 technology there is nowadays, if somebody was to go to 360 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.200 that tree with some sort of PC equipment, if they 361 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:10.680 could work anything that what had been there or I 362 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:15.759 don't know, but like neb, these wanted to take us seriously. 363 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.400 And I see everybody going crazy about Oh, I've seen UFOs, 364 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.240 and I've seen quite a few strange things in the 365 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.440 sky as well. That Cannie obviously explain things going really 366 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:29.920 fast again in her UFOs. But they didn't frighten me either. 367 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.960 Nothing has frightened me in the way that that encounter 368 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:38.079 frightened not only me, but the five years that were there. 369 00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:41.799 And I'll go and I'll tell you about just a 370 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.559 few weeks ago, I was talking to my cousin Paula. 371 00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:51.359 Now Paula is the straight laced, down the earth woman 372 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:55.920 that you would ever meet, a lovely, lovely person, but 373 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.319 she doesn't suffer fools, so she'd never ever And she's 374 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.200 known about the encounter and known about everything for a 375 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:06.240 while because I've telled her. She's never ever said I 376 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.200 believe you or I didn't I believe you. So this day, 377 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:12.279 just a few weeks ago, we were down at the 378 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:16.160 woods and we were just talking about things, and I'd 379 00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:23.680 said to her, kin, unless you or anybody actually experiences 380 00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:27.680 something for their self, they will never ever truly know. 381 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:32.200 People can say, oh, I believe yeah or whatever, but 382 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:38.039 unless they've witnessed for their self, then the cannie truly 383 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:41.160 one hundred percent no. So we're talking about that. And 384 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:46.160 said that to Paula. Now it was a few minutes. 385 00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:49.039 I think might have been a bit longer. After that, 386 00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:53.599 she looked at me and she said, did you hear that? 387 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:59.000 And I went, no, here, what? And she says, somebody's 388 00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:02.119 just spoke to me. So I've looked behind me. The 389 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.359 do need to be there? She says, somebody's just spoke 390 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:10.400 to me, and right in my ear. I said, if 391 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:13.519 you pushed your phone or something? Looking for an excuse 392 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.440 for her, so she goes She's like nah. Then she says, 393 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:20.279 is it your phone? I says, I've not even got 394 00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.240 my phone. Women, my phone's in the car. I didn't 395 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.400 he take it with me? I says, what did you hear? 396 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:32.920 And she says it sounded like like an astronaut where 397 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:38.640 it's helmet with the helmet down. That's sort that's strangeness. 398 00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:43.640 And she sent me a recording a like an astronaut afterwards, 399 00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.240 the sort of how it sounded, she said, but like 400 00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.440 like an astronaut with a helmet down. She says, and 401 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:53.480