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Speaker 3: Hello everyone, and welcome to this show. I hope you've
Speaker 3: all had an enjoyable week. I'm Nick Hunter and this
Speaker 3: is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight's guest is a calling
Speaker 3: from Midlovian in Scotland. In nineteen seventy eight, a group
Speaker 3: of childhood friends Anne, Pamela, Mary and two others experienced
Speaker 3: a traumatic encounter during a walk along an old railway
Speaker 3: line in Newton Grange. They described encountering a free foot
Speaker 3: talk creature with bright yellow eyes, greenish marine skin, and
Speaker 3: no visible mouth. The creature communicated telepathically advising them not
Speaker 3: to be afraid. Following this, the friends blacktout and later
Speaker 3: found themselves in a field nearby, with no memory of
Speaker 3: how they got there. Pamela and Mary have been kind
Speaker 3: enough to send their voice submission of their experience, which
Speaker 3: is also included in this episode and is up next.
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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the podcast. Hello, it is great
Speaker 3: to have you join us today. And you're calling from Scotland.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm phoning from Scotland, just outside Edinburgh, a small
Speaker 5: place called Middle of Theian.
Speaker 3: Middle of and wonderful stuff. Everyone knows Edinburgh. Yeah, Now,
Speaker 3: you and your friends had an experience back in the
Speaker 3: late nineteen seventies. Would you like to start at the
Speaker 3: beginning please, ma'am.
Speaker 5: Yes, I will do well. My name's Ann and I
Speaker 5: loved in a place called Suttersley, which was a very
Speaker 5: small place at the time, around fifty four house season
Speaker 5: total that were prefab houses at the time before they
Speaker 5: got done up. Now, Curtis Lee is in between Mayfield
Speaker 5: and Newton Grange, but it's classed as Nooton Grange. So
Speaker 5: there was five of us on the day. It was
Speaker 5: around nineteen seventy eight and we all lived and were
Speaker 5: brought up in Sutis Lee. So there was myself, my
Speaker 5: sister Mary, Pamela and one of the other neighborhood kids
Speaker 5: that was there. It was a normal day and we
Speaker 5: took my dog Tanya a walk, which was a normal
Speaker 5: occurrence for us, So we always walked her down at
Speaker 5: an old dish used railway line which sat at the
Speaker 5: bottom of Sutus Lee. So we went or down one
Speaker 5: way and we were just walking along. It was day
Speaker 5: light because I was aged eight at the time. We
Speaker 5: were all aged between eight ten year old. We're not
Speaker 5: allowed do it at nighttime. So we're walking Tanya. Everything
Speaker 5: seemed absolutely normal until awly of a sudden, it was
Speaker 5: far phenomal. Tanya, who was a beautiful, beautiful, really quiet dog,
Speaker 5: very placid, she started going crazy, wildly barking, which was
Speaker 5: completely out of character. We'd never heard her do that,
Speaker 5: so she started doing that. We looked up at this
Speaker 5: tree and looking back at us was a site that
Speaker 5: I will never ever forget. I've never forgotten it since
Speaker 5: there was a being that was a estimate round about
Speaker 5: three foot tall. It was sitting on a branch in
Speaker 5: the tree. Now, it had a really skinny body, really
Speaker 5: skinny legs, a bigger head, but it's the eyes, the
Speaker 5: eyes I'll never ever forget. It had huge, bright yellow
Speaker 5: and I mean bright yellow, glowing yellow eyes. It also
Speaker 5: had pointed ears, which sounds bizarre, but it had pointed
Speaker 5: ears like at the side of its head pointed sort
Speaker 5: of no straight up but backwards, but large pointed ears.
Speaker 5: I was frozen in fear. I know, we were all
Speaker 5: completely frozen in fear. It's seeing this. We knew it
Speaker 5: wasn't human, it was the animal, nothing at like that.
Speaker 5: So we're standing there frozen and could not take my
Speaker 5: gaze away from those eyes. Now. I don't know if
Speaker 5: it hypnotized us or what it was that could they
Speaker 5: look away through those eyes. And then we all heard
Speaker 5: the message that it gave. Now, I don't remember its
Speaker 5: mouth moving, so whether it was a telepathic message, I
Speaker 5: don't know, but we all heard the exact same thing,
Speaker 5: and it was what I can only describe now as
Speaker 5: an adult because we had never heard anything like it
Speaker 5: back then in the seventies, as a very synthesized vibraton tone,
Speaker 5: and its words were, do not be afraid. I will
Speaker 5: not harm you.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: My next memory after hearing those words was standing two
Speaker 5: fields away from the railway track, no recollection running, and
Speaker 5: none of the other girls did that. We're standing two
Speaker 5: fields away, and I remember us all even as kids,
Speaker 5: making a pact that we must never speak about what
Speaker 5: we've seen would never tell anybody, and we were never
Speaker 5: even to discuss it between each other, which as an
Speaker 5: adult thinking back now, how did we even know to
Speaker 5: make that pact? Is bizarre and memory now as an adult,
Speaker 5: and I think about this a lot is from Tanya
Speaker 5: going crazy barking to us seeing those eyes. I cannot
Speaker 5: remember hearing Tanya back at that point. I don't know
Speaker 5: what happened with her going crazy, but there's name memory
Speaker 5: hearing Tanya going crazy once we've seen that being so
Speaker 5: that was round nineteen seventy eight. Now, none of us
Speaker 5: ever did talk about it, even amongst each other. It
Speaker 5: was mentioned again. We just remember we just went home
Speaker 5: now about twenty twenty. I mean, I've never ever forgotten.
Speaker 5: A couple of years after that encounter, I started getting
Speaker 5: night terrors. Now I've been having the exact same night
Speaker 5: terror ever since, and I'll explain to you how it goes,
Speaker 5: because it's always the exact same one that's rendered me.
Speaker 5: I'm terrified to sleep, even sleeping tablets, Dinny knock me out.
Speaker 5: I'm terrified. But in the night terror, I am in
Speaker 5: a room and I'm screaming for help, gone round the walls,
Speaker 5: touching frantically trying to feel feel around myself, and I'm screaming,
Speaker 5: please please help me. There's no windows, there's hold on.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, screaming for help. There's no windows, there's no doors,
Speaker 5: and I kind of get out. Now this has been
Speaker 5: the exact same night terror for me that's happened through
Speaker 5: the last forty six years since that event happened. Now,
Speaker 5: about twenty years ago, I was at my sister's house,
Speaker 5: who was living down the Border's Way, and we were
Speaker 5: standing outside near our horses with the blue She just
Speaker 5: said to me this day and do you remember what
Speaker 5: happened that day? And I knew exactly what she was
Speaker 5: going to say, did you remember what happened that day
Speaker 5: doing the tissues railway line? And I instantly said, I
Speaker 5: I'll never forget. I've never forgotten. And she had never forgotten.
Speaker 5: And she said to me, what was that thing that
Speaker 5: happened that was real? And I said, I it was
Speaker 5: and she said, I've never ever forgotten those eyes or
Speaker 5: the why it sounded that says neither of a And
Speaker 5: it was a very short conversation. We we're being still
Speaker 5: quite frightened. That's the first that I'd ever been mentioned
Speaker 5: since that day, and even when I was driving home
Speaker 5: after having that short conversation, I was a bit worried.
Speaker 5: I was thinking, we've spoken about that, and we were
Speaker 5: never to speak about that. So that was that. And
Speaker 5: then I was I've started back then in the seventies,
Speaker 5: we never even heard aliens. It just was never thing,
Speaker 5: was nothing at all. So I started thinking this, you
Speaker 5: see things on Facebook and not add rest it about
Speaker 5: a little alien stuff and always have and it is
Speaker 5: the right shaped eyes, but everything I see it's the
Speaker 5: big black eyes and gray people. Now what we've seen
Speaker 5: didn't have black eyes. The ice shape was right. The
Speaker 5: eyes are glowing yellow ney pew pil nay, whiteness, just
Speaker 5: pure yellow is what the eyes are. So I'd started
Speaker 5: to trying to have a look as anybody else ever
Speaker 5: seen the yelly eyes like what we witnessed that day.
Speaker 5: And the closest thing ever sort of found and it's
Speaker 5: a it's sort of close, but no exactly was. I
Speaker 5: found a thing called the Kelly Hopkins bill Encounter, that's
Speaker 5: what it was called. It's an American thing at a
Speaker 5: farmhouse in America somewhere, I believe in the fifties that
Speaker 5: a group of people that were there had witnessed these
Speaker 5: creatures with the glowing yelly eyes, and they'd done sketches
Speaker 5: what they had seen, but in their sketches the eyes
Speaker 5: were sort of round and further apart in the head,
Speaker 5: and that's not what we've seen. So it was just
Speaker 5: the glowing yelly was really the same sort of similarity
Speaker 5: and the sort of size up this thing. So we've
Speaker 5: been looking at that now. We all drifted apart as
Speaker 5: kids very very quickly. And although Mary was my next
Speaker 5: door neighbor, Pamela lived at the top of the road.
Speaker 5: I hadn't seen or spoke to Pamela in forty six years.
Speaker 5: I had seen Mary Faw time to time, but we
Speaker 5: never ever spoke about what happened that day. I did
Speaker 5: try and approach it where a couple of times and
Speaker 5: a kent she wasn't ready to talk about it. So
Speaker 5: I eventually I'd put things on Facebook about the experience
Speaker 5: that had happened, and Pamela got in touch with me
Speaker 5: and said I was there. She was there, so she
Speaker 5: was ready to talk and we had a few conversations,
Speaker 5: me Mary and Pamela. Because my sister and me are estranged.
Speaker 5: Now I've not spoken to my sister in about fifteen years.
Speaker 5: And the other kid that was there, I'm going to
Speaker 5: get a name because they've no consented to a bit.
Speaker 5: Pamela hus and Mary has consented to me using their names.
Speaker 5: So we eventually decided to get together. I'd ask the girls,
Speaker 5: can we please get together so as we can all
Speaker 5: discuss what each of us can remember that day, I says,
Speaker 5: because I'm sure you you might remember things I can
Speaker 5: remember and likewise, so it's take quite a lot of plan.
Speaker 5: And then just about a month a month month and
Speaker 5: a half ago, way three of us did meet up
Speaker 5: at the location at the side of the Issues railway line. Now,
Speaker 5: even as we were going there, I had done an
Speaker 5: easy feeling. I know Pamela had done an easy feeling,
Speaker 5: as did Mary. Pamela said she was walking down the
Speaker 5: road towards it and she was looking at the cars
Speaker 5: and she was just thinking, please, don't any of these
Speaker 5: cars come off and kill me before I get there.
Speaker 5: That's how much we were terrified to talk about it.
Speaker 5: So we met up and see there hellos and everything.
Speaker 5: Like I say, I hadn't even seen Pamela in forty
Speaker 5: six years. So it was nice to see you. And
Speaker 5: we started talking about what we remembered.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: I had said about the eyes, and they all remember
Speaker 5: the glowing yelly eyes. They remember the ears. Now. I
Speaker 5: could never remember what color its body was that Mary
Speaker 5: and Pamela or one of them remembered. It was a
Speaker 5: greenish brownish color a body. It was very, very skinny.
Speaker 5: And Mary said that she can remember it was sort
Speaker 5: of clinging, clinging onto the branch, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 5: It was sort of clinging, she said. She remembered so
Speaker 5: as we were talking, and then Ad said, as soon
Speaker 5: as we'd heard that message, I says, I remember us
Speaker 5: standing two fields up and they BAF looked to each
Speaker 5: other and said, no, that's nowhere we were standing, they said,
Speaker 5: and they were. The BAEF said it was a completely
Speaker 5: different location that they ended up. They said, we were
Speaker 5: over there. Now, I've got absolutely no memory whatsoever he
Speaker 5: been at this first location. And then they said, Mary said,
Speaker 5: after them at the first location, and no, Kennan how
Speaker 5: they got there. Mary said, then they were at the
Speaker 5: second location, which is a location that as far as
Speaker 5: I'm aware, that's the only location that I ended up.
Speaker 5: But they said that was the second location that ended up,
Speaker 5: but they don't know how they got there, and that's
Speaker 5: when they made the pact to never ever talk about
Speaker 5: what had happened that day. Now, from the seventy eight
Speaker 5: I've looked back at pictures of me as a younger kid,
Speaker 5: and I had like neymark or anything on my forehead.
Speaker 5: But since then, I have got a lump and it's
Speaker 5: dead center in my forehead. And it happened after that encounter. Now,
Speaker 5: I don't know if there is something in there, but
Speaker 5: I believe there is. I've always believed there is something
Speaker 5: something there. Now after speaking to the girls, like I say,
Speaker 5: just a month ago, I remember all these years that
Speaker 5: that's passed, and with the night terrors that I've never
Speaker 5: wanted to believe what I now believe after they're talking
Speaker 5: to the girls. I've always put it down to is
Speaker 5: that my brain's way trying to cope with what happened
Speaker 5: to us that day, or was it something else? And
Speaker 5: then since speaking to the girls and named Beef saying
Speaker 5: no that it was a completely different location before the
Speaker 5: location that I can remember being, I am one hundred
Speaker 5: percent convinced that it took us. Now and I also
Speaker 5: believe that my night terrors are actual memories off where
Speaker 5: it took us. I think it's it's memories. Nay, wind,
Speaker 5: these need doors, screaming, pushing around this wall type thing,
Speaker 5: and I just can'd of get out. And that's what
Speaker 5: I truly believe that we were taking. For what reason,
Speaker 5: I don't know, because we were just kids, and we
Speaker 5: have spoke about, well, why did it Why did it
Speaker 5: pick up us to see it? Because obviously did pick
Speaker 5: us to see it, and Pamela had said maybe because
Speaker 5: we were kids, and because if we did ever tell
Speaker 5: then they would believe us, which is a possibility. I mean,
Speaker 5: I just I don't know, but it definitely happened. And
Speaker 5: people have said since then, oh, was it an owl
Speaker 5: that you've seen in the tree? What we've seen in
Speaker 5: that tree was not an owl, It was not an animal.
Speaker 5: It was not anybody dressed up or anything like that.
Speaker 5: That was a being, not of this world that we encountered. Now,
Speaker 5: that was a face to face with communication, and none
Speaker 5: of us have ever forgotten that, and we never ever will.
Speaker 5: So that was basically that's that whole encounter, the yellow
Speaker 5: eide being what it looked like. And I can only
Speaker 5: tell you what it looks like through the icey how
Speaker 5: I was when I was about eight year old. It
Speaker 5: looked like a terrifying elf like creature. That is what
Speaker 5: it looked like. But it's skinny body and the big
Speaker 5: head and the huge eyes. That's what it looked like
Speaker 5: to me. I've had another a few things happen over
Speaker 5: the years since then, but nothing on that sort of scale. Well,
Speaker 5: it might be connected, it might know. But I remember
Speaker 5: I was about twenty three twenty four, and I was
Speaker 5: in a flat and Mayfield and my first daughter was
Speaker 5: just a baby at the time. Now my mom had
Speaker 5: given me a double bed. Now, my dad had dropped
Speaker 5: dead a day after match about first birthday. And oh,
Speaker 5: really sorry to say it, but I'd washed Stumpy to
Speaker 5: drop dead. I'd say that many times, saying that that's
Speaker 5: why I did that. My dad had broke dead the
Speaker 5: after my twenty first and when the ambulance people came,
Speaker 5: the lady's dead body on that bed, which is the
Speaker 5: bed that my mum gave to me when I was
Speaker 5: twenty three and starting looting this flat. Now, I remember
Speaker 5: this night, I'd just got to bed and I wasn't
Speaker 5: sleeping I'd only just got into bed, lay down, and
Speaker 5: I felt an immense weight on my chest that I
Speaker 5: couldn't move. Now, there is a word for it, but
Speaker 5: I can't remember what the word does. But it was
Speaker 5: a real weight on my chest. I couldn't move at all.
Speaker 5: And then I could see a mist right over the
Speaker 5: top of me. And that lasted for probably a few minutes.
Speaker 5: I was frightened, but no terrified at that And I
Speaker 5: got up after I was able to get up, and
Speaker 5: I phoned my mum and I says, Mom, this has
Speaker 5: just happened, and she says ken, I says, I think
Speaker 5: it might have been Dad. I said it was a
Speaker 5: missed but I think it was Dad, and she said,
Speaker 5: Donny worry, it's all right. So it's right right, okay.
Speaker 5: And then years after that was about forty I'd been
Speaker 5: married and then a horrible, horrible, abusive relationship. Now I'd
Speaker 5: been given Remy Mac and toss clock, but it was
Speaker 5: a replica. It wasn't it the real deal. Been given
Speaker 5: that as a wedding present. Now it Hudney worked for years,
Speaker 5: in years, and then eventually I got out to that
Speaker 5: relationship through horrible, horrible circumstances. And I looked at this
Speaker 5: clock that hadney worked in years, and it was ticking.
Speaker 5: It was ticking, and it was at the exact time
Speaker 5: that it was meant to be at. I thought, that's
Speaker 5: really really weird. How's that? And I took the clock
Speaker 5: off the wall and it didn't even have a battery.
Speaker 5: And and that is a that it's time to start
Speaker 5: living again. So that I wasn't frightened to that either.
Speaker 5: I've also had a few things in the house where
Speaker 5: I'm in now, like mirrors falling where they should have
Speaker 5: smashed and onely smashed and in completely different places, pictures
Speaker 5: flying off the wall, and like in dent and into
Speaker 5: another part of the wall that my girls were frightened
Speaker 5: at that obviously because that was in their room. That
Speaker 5: just says them, can look it's all right. And I
Speaker 5: just spoke out, I said, looking, me and anybody any harm,
Speaker 5: just leave us a lane. So that was that was
Speaker 5: that kind of any of this is connected or no,
Speaker 5: but my body temperature. Now I'm going back decades since
Speaker 5: I was started being like in relationships where guys that
Speaker 5: I was used to say to me, we can't sleep beside,
Speaker 5: you can't you sleep beside you because you boil hope,
Speaker 5: like you can't even touch you boil hop And I'm
Speaker 5: not talking menopause. I mean, I'm now nearly fifty five.
Speaker 5: I'm going back to when they first starting day and
Speaker 5: you're getting your your first boyfriends, tying or alos or whatever.
Speaker 5: And I've heard that way quite a few people, including
Speaker 5: the guy that was married to can why you used
Speaker 5: to boil and hopefully that you just can't need to
Speaker 5: lie next to you you're boiling. And whether that's going
Speaker 5: it in today they encounter that day, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Now I'll go back to the encounter. So after the
Speaker 5: girls and I had spoken and we'd spoken at length,
Speaker 5: we'd all say, kin, if anybody wants to give us
Speaker 5: why detectors, we would be willing to day lie detectors
Speaker 5: or us because we can for a fact we would
Speaker 5: pass it. But we've never heard anybody like take us
Speaker 5: seriously enough to even say kind of like, oh, let's
Speaker 5: go and have a look at this place. Let us
Speaker 5: go and see this tree. And in the ken of
Speaker 5: technology there is nowadays, if somebody was to go to
Speaker 5: that tree with some sort of PC equipment, if they
Speaker 5: could work anything that what had been there or I
Speaker 5: don't know, but like neb, these wanted to take us seriously.
Speaker 5: And I see everybody going crazy about Oh, I've seen UFOs,
Speaker 5: and I've seen quite a few strange things in the
Speaker 5: sky as well. That Cannie obviously explain things going really
Speaker 5: fast again in her UFOs. But they didn't frighten me either.
Speaker 5: Nothing has frightened me in the way that that encounter
Speaker 5: frightened not only me, but the five years that were there.
Speaker 5: And I'll go and I'll tell you about just a
Speaker 5: few weeks ago, I was talking to my cousin Paula.
Speaker 5: Now Paula is the straight laced, down the earth woman
Speaker 5: that you would ever meet, a lovely, lovely person, but
Speaker 5: she doesn't suffer fools, so she'd never ever And she's
Speaker 5: known about the encounter and known about everything for a
Speaker 5: while because I've telled her. She's never ever said I
Speaker 5: believe you or I didn't I believe you. So this day,
Speaker 5: just a few weeks ago, we were down at the
Speaker 5: woods and we were just talking about things, and I'd
Speaker 5: said to her, kin, unless you or anybody actually experiences
Speaker 5: something for their self, they will never ever truly know.
Speaker 5: People can say, oh, I believe yeah or whatever, but
Speaker 5: unless they've witnessed for their self, then the cannie truly
Speaker 5: one hundred percent no. So we're talking about that. And
Speaker 5: said that to Paula. Now it was a few minutes.
Speaker 5: I think might have been a bit longer. After that,
Speaker 5: she looked at me and she said, did you hear that?
Speaker 5: And I went, no, here, what? And she says, somebody's
Speaker 5: just spoke to me. So I've looked behind me. The
Speaker 5: do need to be there? She says, somebody's just spoke
Speaker 5: to me, and right in my ear. I said, if
Speaker 5: you pushed your phone or something? Looking for an excuse
Speaker 5: for her, so she goes She's like nah. Then she says,
Speaker 5: is it your phone? I says, I've not even got
Speaker 5: my phone. Women, my phone's in the car. I didn't
Speaker 5: he take it with me? I says, what did you hear?
Speaker 5: And she says it sounded like like an astronaut where
Speaker 5: it's helmet with the helmet down. That's sort that's strangeness.
Speaker 5: And she sent me a recording a like an astronaut afterwards,
Speaker 5: the sort of how it sounded, she said, but like
Speaker 5: like an astronaut with a helmet down. She says, and
Speaker 5: I don't know what it meant. She says, but letters
Speaker 5: and symbols says that, no, I don't know what it means.
Speaker 5: But she's got a bit of a fright. And I says, Paula,
Speaker 5: I think you've had a message, and she says, hi,
Speaker 5: I And she now knows that what happened to me,
Speaker 5: my sister and my friends actually really really did happen
Speaker 5: because she'd experienced that thing just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 5: So that was that way with Paula.
Speaker 3: Thank you for sharing it and did great.
Speaker 5: I hope I've not missed anything that I broke, like
Speaker 5: re notes. But when I start talking, it's like when
Speaker 5: I'm talking to anybody about it. I kind of jumped
Speaker 5: for this to that the only way I can talk
Speaker 5: about it, as I seem to be this. And then
Speaker 5: I'll speak about this and I can't tell people it
Speaker 5: doesn't make any sense because I do intend to jump.
Speaker 3: That's fine, that's fine. We all do it, you know,
Speaker 3: And this show has been going quite a while, and
Speaker 3: one thing we do on the show is take people seriously.
Speaker 3: Our listeners are very open minded, and most are searching
Speaker 3: for answers themselves to own personal experiences, so you're in
Speaker 3: safe hands here. Obviously this encounter was traumatizing, you know,
Speaker 3: even after all these years. Yeap when you were saying
Speaker 3: about the ever encounter at Kelly Hopkinsville, because I actually
Speaker 3: had on one of the girls at the time. Really, yeah,
Speaker 3: I had her on. It was Geredine back in it's
Speaker 3: four years ago. Yeah, and she was one of the
Speaker 3: children in that farmhouse. At that farmhouse.
Speaker 5: Yeah wow. And how is she now? Obviously never left
Speaker 5: her all bit.
Speaker 3: She still talks about it, and she goes to some
Speaker 3: of the conferences. She's still quite active.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an interesting way, and you reckon that's
Speaker 3: what it looked like, the little being like.
Speaker 5: Well, the drawings that are seen are the ones the
Speaker 5: Keller Hopkins fill one. The eyes were completely different because
Speaker 5: the drawn that they'd done, it's like round eyes and
Speaker 5: further like apart on the head and the ears were
Speaker 5: like a floppy mess and there things to what we seen.
Speaker 5: It was a big head. It wasn't there a round head.
Speaker 5: It was like a big head. The eyes, like I say,
Speaker 5: were glowing bright yellow, full yellow the other color and
Speaker 5: the pupil nay nothing, but they were the alien shape.
Speaker 5: But no black, like what all these other people seem
Speaker 5: to say, Oh, and a gray alien with big black eyes,
Speaker 5: And I think are a lot of youse jumping on
Speaker 5: the bandwagon you're saying the same thing, because I can
Speaker 5: for a fact that the eyes are glowing yellow. They're
Speaker 5: no black unless they're obviously. Now there's loads of different
Speaker 5: kinds of aliens. I don't know, but the one that
Speaker 5: the reason that Kelly Hopkins fill caught my attention was
Speaker 5: because it did have the yellow eyes like they're encounter
Speaker 5: heard the yellow eyes, but I think they said that
Speaker 5: the other rimmy silver or something on their one, but
Speaker 5: our one definitely no. It was fully glowing, the brightest
Speaker 5: jelly you can ever imagine. That's what the eyes were.
Speaker 5: But the alien shape, the big alien shape, fully bright,
Speaker 5: bright yellow. And the ears were different for the Kelly
Speaker 5: Hopkins will one because there's looked so spiky and a
Speaker 5: bit floppy, whereas that one that we've seen it was
Speaker 5: mere spiky at the at the side of the head,
Speaker 5: but gone backwards, if you know what I mean, the
Speaker 5: pointed ears. And like I said, the Mary and Pamela,
Speaker 5: I member, it was a greeny brown colored body, but
Speaker 5: it was a really skinny, skinny body.
Speaker 3: Skinny body, and about three foot tall. You reckon and
Speaker 3: when you last visited the location? Now, you know we
Speaker 3: were talking about this is the before we went on there.
Speaker 3: It's nineteen seventy eight. You know, things are a lot
Speaker 3: different now. Oh, that was was all fields. The tree
Speaker 3: that was hanging off. Is that tree still there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that tree is still there. That tree, I mean
Speaker 5: it's bigger now, but that she is still there. Well,
Speaker 5: I mean it was on the branch. But it was
Speaker 5: Mary who said that it was like it was sort
Speaker 5: of clinging to the branch, which would make sense because
Speaker 5: it didn't they have from a recollection. There's no point
Speaker 5: in saying, oh, I hard fingers. I don't remember it
Speaker 5: having fingers. I don't remember what its feet were like.
Speaker 5: I just remember seeing this thing and being frozen in
Speaker 5: very in terror. If what we were seeing and the eyes,
Speaker 5: I think as soon as we've seen the eyes, it
Speaker 5: hurt us. It hurt us. There was nay escape, couldn't
Speaker 5: look away.
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Speaker 3: So you're walking down the track towards the bridge now.
Speaker 3: I will put a map of the location on the
Speaker 3: website so people can click go and check it out.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it has all changed. There's a lot
Speaker 3: more houses and it's it's less fields now, so it
Speaker 3: has changed a little bit. So you and your friends
Speaker 3: Mary and Palm and you walk in.
Speaker 5: Tanya and my sister was here as well. There was
Speaker 5: five years five.
Speaker 3: Of you, okay, and who was the first one to
Speaker 3: see this? See the bing in the tree?
Speaker 5: I think we've all seen it at the same time
Speaker 5: because the tan you're going crazy, we've all looked at
Speaker 5: the same time. To my knowledge, we've all looked at
Speaker 5: the same time, and it's there. It is, like I say,
Speaker 5: it was the eyes that you can never runsee and
Speaker 5: then here and we'd never heard anything like how that sounded.
Speaker 5: And then obviously a years ago went on. I've been
Speaker 5: able to liken it to. It sounded like a right
Speaker 5: synthesized vibrating tone, really vibrating tone. And that's what we
Speaker 5: all heard at the same time. And as soon as
Speaker 5: we heard that bomb, to my I'm standing two fields away.
Speaker 5: And then the girls are saying to me, obviously if
Speaker 5: we met up, No, she says, we were way over
Speaker 5: the other side. We were there, and then Mary said,
Speaker 5: And then we were there, she says, and then the
Speaker 5: next second we were where hours where I remember being,
Speaker 5: she said. And I don't know how we got there.
Speaker 5: Nania's remember running. Nania's ken. What happened as soon as
Speaker 5: we heard that voice, whether it be a telepathic message,
Speaker 5: ad any ken, but as soon as we heard that
Speaker 5: that was at my very next memory as standing two
Speaker 5: fields away, and their memory was standing completely other direction,
Speaker 5: two fields away, and then being where I was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might get you to mark on the map
Speaker 3: those two locations you only remembered the last location. Yeah,
Speaker 3: does your friends remember the location that you mentioned?
Speaker 5: Yeah, they said that, they said we were in. I've
Speaker 5: still got since they said that, like the first location,
Speaker 5: I've got absolutely no recollection. He'd been in that location
Speaker 5: that that they said we were First they said, Mary
Speaker 5: said we were there, and Tamila said that we were there.
Speaker 5: And then the next second we were in the location
Speaker 5: where my memory is where I was standing, And that's
Speaker 5: when we made the pact too, that we must never
Speaker 5: tell anybody.
Speaker 3: So you're in that second location, you've made his pact.
Speaker 3: You're all scared. You all still shook up. How's Tanya is?
Speaker 3: Is Tanya still still reacting?
Speaker 5: No, Tanya isn't even wears. Tanya wasn't even wears. I've
Speaker 5: got no idea where Tanya went when she went, I
Speaker 5: mean she was back came when we go. Hey, but
Speaker 5: I've got no recollection. And I'd said to Mary and
Speaker 5: Pamela when when we met up, do you remember Tanya
Speaker 5: still barking? Is when we seen that thing, And many
Speaker 5: of them can remember Tanya barking as soon as we
Speaker 5: see the eyes. It was like silce but or remember
Speaker 5: how crazy, because I mean they grew up with the
Speaker 5: new Tanya. We walked her all the time. She was
Speaker 5: just nothing vicious about that dog ever ever, and her
Speaker 5: reaction is what made us look because we've never seen
Speaker 5: her like that ever. So adding the ken, what happened
Speaker 5: to Tanya in between us hearing her going crazy and
Speaker 5: looking and then seeing that thing and then it was
Speaker 5: like silence and near recollectiony hearing Tanya still going crazy?
Speaker 5: Or what happened if Tania aunt? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Was Tanya on the lee just free walking?
Speaker 5: Probably free walking because she was did know a dog
Speaker 5: that would run away or anything like that? She was
Speaker 5: She was a good Doug, really good Doug. That to
Speaker 5: my knowledge, she was free walking with us. So, but
Speaker 5: I can't be one hundred percent and say that she
Speaker 5: was on a leader. She wasn't. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, we used to have our dogs on
Speaker 3: these when we were kids. We just we just walk
Speaker 3: around them. All of you are in the second location,
Speaker 3: you've made this pact. Tanya is nowhere to be seen.
Speaker 3: Do you remember much about what happened after that? Do
Speaker 3: you remember the walk home? Did you live very far
Speaker 3: away from that location?
Speaker 5: No, we just lived a couple of minutes for that field,
Speaker 5: Like I say, it was, I lived on the edge
Speaker 5: such present. Mary lived next door, Pamela lived at the
Speaker 5: top of the street beside me. Extreme was my sister,
Speaker 5: and we were off certainly, and it was just a tiny,
Speaker 5: wee place. So to my knowledge, we just went home
Speaker 5: and maybe they said anything about it. It was that
Speaker 5: we knew we must never speak about it through theory,
Speaker 5: because I'd said that to Mary and Pamela. I was like,
Speaker 5: how did we ken like were one they ever speak
Speaker 5: about it? We all thought if we ever tell anybody,
Speaker 5: something terrible would happen to either us or the people
Speaker 5: that would tell. So we just never We never even
Speaker 5: spoke amongst each other ever, even me and my sister until,
Speaker 5: like I say, about twenty years ago, when I was
Speaker 5: at my sister's house in the country, we're horses. When
Speaker 5: she said to me, and I knew, and we had
Speaker 5: that very very short conversation about it. That was the
Speaker 5: very first time that had ever been mentioned.
Speaker 3: What was the age difference between you and your sister?
Speaker 5: Two years? Two years? She's my big sister, So.
Speaker 3: You were about eight years old and she was about ten.
Speaker 5: I was about eight or nine. She will have been
Speaker 5: ten eleven, I'm nearly fifty five, a couple of a
Speaker 5: few weeks away if we've been fifty five now, But
Speaker 5: we were also they ruined the boot the same age.
Speaker 5: Mary was I think a year a year older than me.
Speaker 5: So Mary was probably about nine. Pamela was about my age,
Speaker 5: maybe six months younger or something. But we're all about
Speaker 5: the same age, okay.
Speaker 3: And when you got home, it was still during the day,
Speaker 3: so parents hadn't missed you or anything like that. You
Speaker 3: ain't going night for out what I was saying that
Speaker 3: in those days we used to go out for hours
Speaker 3: on end, but we were never missed.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know, because I mean, my dad was
Speaker 5: a lorry driver, so he was in the hem a lot,
Speaker 5: and my mum used to work like a few different jobs,
Speaker 5: obviously to make Ken's meet. It was the same way
Speaker 5: Mary's mom Ken. I can't even remember if my mom
Speaker 5: and dad were in or if it was my brother
Speaker 5: that was in. I don't know. But can I say
Speaker 5: as well because I'd forgot to say about my sleep
Speaker 5: pattern since the night terrors started, So all the years
Speaker 5: ever since that first night terror, I'm awake every fifty minutes,
Speaker 5: every single fifty minutes throughout the night. And I've been
Speaker 5: like that for forty six years, and like I say,
Speaker 5: not even the doctors tried all sorts of different sleeping
Speaker 5: tablets and never because they ken about my sleep order,
Speaker 5: and it's like my brain's stronger than these whatever they
Speaker 5: try and give me to try and make me sleep,
Speaker 5: because when I awake, I'm instantly can you sleep?
Speaker 2: Can you sleep?
Speaker 5: Because I'm terrified going back into another night terror. And
Speaker 5: it's always been the exact same night terror, the exact
Speaker 5: same place wherever that place is, Ney doors, Ney Windys, screaming,
Speaker 5: please please help me, Candy get out. So I've kind
Speaker 5: of suffered since then, I've suffered.
Speaker 3: You said the night terrors. Is this something the doctor
Speaker 3: has said that's what it is? Night terrors? Or is
Speaker 3: that this is just a problematic nightmares.
Speaker 5: No, I'm sure the doctors said years and years ago
Speaker 5: it was a night terror. Because I was explaining I
Speaker 5: didn't say obviously about a trink. I tried to say
Speaker 5: to a doctor once and he just says, no, there's
Speaker 5: any such thing as aliens. I just completely dismissed. So
Speaker 5: I've said about the that night terror, that well terror.
Speaker 5: But it's so so real, and every time it happens,
Speaker 5: it's the exact same thing.
Speaker 3: It never changes. So it's usually about fifteen minutes from
Speaker 3: the time you get to bed and then wake.
Speaker 5: Up in no fifty minutes, Like if I go to
Speaker 5: bed at say ten o'clock, I've got no problem instantly
Speaker 5: shut in my eyes and kind of gone to sleep,
Speaker 5: and then about fifty minutes, forty five fifty minutes, I'm
Speaker 5: wide awake and out of the bed, wide awake. And
Speaker 5: I've been like that continuously through it the night for decades.
Speaker 3: How many periods would you say you would have in
Speaker 3: one night these dreams? Is it only just a one
Speaker 3: or a couple of times a night.
Speaker 5: No, it would be one a night. But it's no
Speaker 5: every night, it's no even every month, it's not even
Speaker 5: every year. It's very sporadic. But every night terror I've heard,
Speaker 5: and there has been a lot, quite a lot, I
Speaker 5: mean I've i it's always been the exact same the
Speaker 5: exact same thing that happens.
Speaker 3: And when was the last time you had one?
Speaker 5: I think it was probably seven eight months ago, seven
Speaker 5: eight months ago, because I can my daughters are all
Speaker 5: growing up now. But even through the times and that
Speaker 5: when they've been younger. I I've been walking about the
Speaker 5: bath whatever. What's the bruises? What's the bruises? Mom? How
Speaker 5: are you bruise there? My most recent one got square
Speaker 5: bruises on the inside of my arm. Bruise. I keep
Speaker 5: getting bruises that I can't explain and how they got there.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's any hand, but I get bruises
Speaker 5: where I've got the idea how I get these bruises
Speaker 5: and the places that they're in, no idea.
Speaker 3: Okay, And when you wake up, how do you feel?
Speaker 5: Just exhausted, terrified, sweating, I sweating, But they're just so real.
Speaker 5: It's like I'm actually in that place. It's hard to explain.
Speaker 5: When I'm in that night terror and I'm running around
Speaker 5: that room and I'm feeling and pushing my hands against
Speaker 5: the walls, pushing my hands and I'm trying to search
Speaker 5: for there's no door, there's no there's no windows, there's
Speaker 5: no doors. It's completely sealed. I can't of get out.
Speaker 5: I canna get out.
Speaker 1: That's what that is, what it is.
Speaker 3: So it's completely dark when you're in this this night
Speaker 3: mt it's completely dark. You can't see anything. You're just
Speaker 3: trying to feel around, trying to find a way.
Speaker 5: Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you have any other senses in there? Can you
Speaker 3: fear any temperature, any smells, anything like that.
Speaker 5: Now I'm just frantically pushing, pushing, like putting my hands
Speaker 5: over these walls, running round and try to feel and
Speaker 5: try to feel for something. There's nothing. There's there's nothing,
Speaker 5: there's no door, there's no windows, there's no way. I
Speaker 5: just I can't get out. There's no why you're getting out,
Speaker 5: And I'm screaming, please help me, please help me.
Speaker 3: Do you have any philbias?
Speaker 5: No, I mean the day if you mean like I'm
Speaker 5: a frightening day and close spaces or things like that,
Speaker 5: and I wouldn't say so.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes you're not claustrophobic or anything like that. No, Okay,
Speaker 3: Now you speak to your friends, it's still close, you
Speaker 3: still talk all a bit.
Speaker 5: Well, since we've started talking, me and Mary and Pamela,
Speaker 5: then I will I mean with their talk every day.
Speaker 5: And Mary and Pamela did want to be here today
Speaker 5: this podcast with Pamela's actually she's away in Cyprus at
Speaker 5: the moment, and I believe Mary's at work, because I
Speaker 5: had said, and they did want to kind of be
Speaker 5: part of it and like you ken what they could
Speaker 5: remember and everything. So I'd said, well, I'll still go ahead.
Speaker 5: But because Pamela was away, Mary was working, and I'd
Speaker 5: said that I would like you ken what they could
Speaker 5: remember for what they had told me that they remembered.
Speaker 8: Hi, my name's Mary. This is what happened to us.
Speaker 8: Five of us roughly back in nineteen seventy eight. We
Speaker 8: were aged about between eight and ten years old. We
Speaker 8: went for a walk with Anne's dog called Tanya. We
Speaker 8: were walking along the old disused railway bridge where we stayed.
Speaker 8: It's such a slaying newt and grange as we did
Speaker 8: this on many many occasions. We got to the bridge
Speaker 8: walking underneath it. Then Tanya started going nuts, barking and growling.
Speaker 8: She was always such a very placid dog. We looked
Speaker 8: up and we saw a figure in a tree. It
Speaker 8: had bright yellow piercing eyes, pointed airs. It was sort
Speaker 8: of a brownish in color. It spoke to us and
Speaker 8: it said, don't be afraid, I won't harm you. We
Speaker 8: were all frozen in fear. Then the next thing we
Speaker 8: remember is being in the industrial state about ten minutes
Speaker 8: walk of where we were. I don't remember running or
Speaker 8: walking to where we got to. Then the next thing
Speaker 8: I remember was being at the grass area next to
Speaker 8: where I stayed at the time. Again, no clue on
Speaker 8: how we got to where we were. After that, we
Speaker 8: made a pact never to speak about it again, and
Speaker 8: we never did. I'm now fifty five and only recently
Speaker 8: started speaking about it with Anne and Pamela, but it
Speaker 8: really stresses me out talking about I hope this helps.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 9: My name's Pamela, and here's my account of what happened.
Speaker 9: In the summer of nineteen seventy eight. I was eight
Speaker 9: going on nine at the time, and five of us
Speaker 9: went for a walk along the old railway bridge at
Speaker 9: such the noot And Grange with anstock Tanya. That was
Speaker 9: something that we've done pretty regular. Tanya this day started
Speaker 9: barking uncontrollably, which was very unusual for her because she's
Speaker 9: usually so placid. And when we looked up to see
Speaker 9: what Tanya was barking at, that's when we seen this
Speaker 9: non human being. It was sitting in a tree, just
Speaker 9: sitting there, and it was probably about three feet tall,
Speaker 9: A gray greenie in color with massive bright eyes. I'll
Speaker 9: never ever forget those eyes. It did reassure us it
Speaker 9: wasn't going to hurt us by saying, don't be afraid,
Speaker 9: I'm not going to hurt yous. But we all stood there,
Speaker 9: frozen in fear. The next thing, we're all standing at
Speaker 9: sned and having absolutely no recollection and how we got
Speaker 9: there or even how we got back to Mary's. And
Speaker 9: on that day we stood and that's when we all
Speaker 9: made a pact to never to speak about it again,
Speaker 9: and which we never did until recently when we all
Speaker 9: kind of got connected again via Facebook. So myself and
Speaker 9: and Mary had met up with Edinburgh Live and there
Speaker 9: were a photographer there as well, and yeah, he got
Speaker 9: us to go back down to the area where the
Speaker 9: encounter happened. And I remember standing there. This was just
Speaker 9: about a month ago, and I remember standing there feeling
Speaker 9: like something was watching us. That we've just felt really
Speaker 9: really eerie. So I just wanted to add that wee
Speaker 9: bit in.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks the other ladies, have they mentioned anything that
Speaker 3: they've experienced after in relation to their own sleep?
Speaker 5: Now, dams Hud I did say that, I said that
Speaker 5: is any who's bothered sleep things in that and they said, no,
Speaker 5: I'm the only one.
Speaker 3: You're the only one that's troubled by it. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: sometimes it can be difficult to go back to these encounters.
Speaker 3: Have you ever tried to draw or sketch anything down?
Speaker 5: I did. I have tried and a rubbish straw, and
Speaker 5: it just looks like a five year old. Like a
Speaker 5: five year old. I sort of drew a tree with
Speaker 5: a sort of standing at the bottom, and the thing
Speaker 5: they just like a sort of stick man with the
Speaker 5: big eyes sitting on the branch. I'm just a niggard
Speaker 5: artworking Pamela's neggar, the art working in the areas either
Speaker 5: that's just like me.
Speaker 3: Then I'll tell you what, Just do the best you
Speaker 3: can right when you get a chance, just to just
Speaker 3: try and get something down, just so we kind of
Speaker 3: get the idea of how it was actually in the tree,
Speaker 3: and then just a separate one of the being. If
Speaker 3: you're able to well, I will try.
Speaker 5: I'll attempt to draw a tree and I'll attempt to
Speaker 5: draw the being, but I kind of I'll know it
Speaker 5: just us, because.
Speaker 3: Hey, I guarantee it would be better than my tree.
Speaker 5: Back then there was still you could still see the
Speaker 5: sleeppers Ken, the slippers, the railways sleepers, the Betsy Wood
Speaker 5: ken like. You could still used to walk over them.
Speaker 5: They were still visible at the time, the old sleepers.
Speaker 5: So i'll I'll draw a couple of them in as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, right now, to our listeners. I came across Ann's
Speaker 3: account because it was actually a listener that sent me
Speaker 3: a link to an article. Now your account did make
Speaker 3: it into the Edinburgh Live. Yeah, now I feel we
Speaker 3: got to talk about this because and wasn't happy about
Speaker 3: the article. And it's something which is very common when
Speaker 3: it's online. That's say, newspapers when they get hold of
Speaker 3: accounts like this, they tend to twist it a little
Speaker 3: bit and change things around. And most of the time
Speaker 3: they usually don't have much experience in this type of thing.
Speaker 3: They usually cover whatever's happening locally, so sometimes the account
Speaker 3: doesn't always come out the way you wish.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 5: He had contacted me through a page called UFOs in
Speaker 5: Scotland and I had written about our experience and he'd
Speaker 5: contacted me and asked if I would speak to him
Speaker 5: and the girls would speak to him, and he assured
Speaker 5: does oh, it was it was going to be done seriously,
Speaker 5: sympathetically or the rest of the app and then the
Speaker 5: way it was done, oh my god, all the kind
Speaker 5: of the comments were just horrific, absolutely horrific. He made
Speaker 5: us look like laughing stocks. And he was right things
Speaker 5: that we hardly said, and it just it made us
Speaker 5: look like laughing stocks. None of us were happy. Bit
Speaker 5: and we're getting in touch film seeing take it doing,
Speaker 5: Take It doing now and you're just like Canni. A
Speaker 5: Cannie made us like bloody feels. So there you go
Speaker 5: with that with that experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, to our listeners, if you are contacted by
Speaker 3: any reporters, now, there are some good reporters out there,
Speaker 3: so this isn't all of them, but if you do
Speaker 3: get asked, whether it's on Facebook or any other form
Speaker 3: of social media after sharing your account, be aware that
Speaker 3: the finished article may not always be what you have relayed. Always,
Speaker 3: just just be aware of that. And An isn't the
Speaker 3: first guest I've had on here which you've found a
Speaker 3: bad experience with a journalist. First of all, Yeah, just
Speaker 3: be aware. Obviously, coming on this show is better for
Speaker 3: people because you can it's all in your own words,
Speaker 3: so everything that comes out is in your own words,
Speaker 3: and I don't change anything on the show.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've just want to see thank you, thank
Speaker 5: you for getting in touch for me and letting me
Speaker 5: speak in my inwards about our encounter. So I'm thankful.
Speaker 5: I'm thankful for that, and I just wanted to get
Speaker 5: our encounter there for people that's interested to hear about
Speaker 5: before my time's But you.
Speaker 3: Know, and people that come on this show, and I
Speaker 3: always say, it doesn't make a difference matter how historic
Speaker 3: people's accounts are, because I've had accounts that go back
Speaker 3: to the fifties on here. Yeah, some of the guests
Speaker 3: I've had on here the first time they've really said
Speaker 3: they're encounters to people, and some of them have been
Speaker 3: in their seventies late seventies, and it's the first time
Speaker 3: they're telling anyone. Can be liberating. And also you're sharing
Speaker 3: it with people and you might find someone else out
Speaker 3: there that might have had the same experience. I might
Speaker 3: have seen the same thing, even in the in the
Speaker 3: even in the same area outside of Edinburgh. We may
Speaker 3: get someone which is seen something that happened, experienced the
Speaker 3: same so you never know it has happened. Mine without
Speaker 3: had people contact that been in the same locations and
Speaker 3: or have seen the same thing years and years later.
Speaker 3: It does happen. But also you've had a traumatic experience
Speaker 3: you're a child, Yeah, something happened.
Speaker 5: That was most definitely a face to face with whatever
Speaker 5: that communication was, where a being that is not from
Speaker 5: this planet. And I don't know why it picked us.
Speaker 5: I don't know why it picked us.
Speaker 3: Well, how do you feel about it now? You know,
Speaker 3: after all these years, is it still something that you know,
Speaker 3: you you really want answers to or is it something
Speaker 3: that you just kind of need to be done with?
Speaker 5: And well, we will never get the answers for it.
Speaker 5: I mean, it picked us for a reason. I don't
Speaker 5: know what the reason is. I'll never know what the
Speaker 5: reason is. But it picked us. It wanted us to
Speaker 5: see it for whatever reason. I don't know. I get
Speaker 5: A few years ago, I went with my friend Donna
Speaker 5: for a regression. It was sure it was through Bathketway
Speaker 5: and it just didn't work. That just that whether the
Speaker 5: room wasn't very good, I don't know, but I wanted
Speaker 5: to I was frightened, I thought, but I wanted to
Speaker 5: see Ken. Where did it take us? Ken? Why what
Speaker 5: did have some sort of answers, but not the regression
Speaker 5: did not work.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay. I mean there's been people which have tried,
Speaker 3: and sometimes the hitting the therapists either aren't very good.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of good ones out there,
Speaker 3: or sometimes it's you yourself and you don't want to
Speaker 3: go there. You don't want that, so sometimes it just
Speaker 3: can completely shut you out. But in a lot of
Speaker 3: cases we never really get the answers. We can kind
Speaker 3: of piece things together a little bit. I mean, you
Speaker 3: know in your own art that what you saw, how
Speaker 3: she wouldn't how she wouldn't be around. Well, well, I
Speaker 3: hope from now on were able to have some peace
Speaker 3: at night, and I hope these nightmares do subside eventually
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 5: I hope so. But no, we live in hope. But
Speaker 5: what all is like I say, I've I'll be like
Speaker 5: this for the rest of my life un till I
Speaker 5: do die that I just think I will. I'll always
Speaker 5: be terrified to try and sleep because of a sleep,
Speaker 5: it could go into a night terror and then I'm
Speaker 5: back in that place and it's just too horrific. I
Speaker 5: think that's what the problem is.
Speaker 3: Do you find that when you are thinking about this
Speaker 3: sharing it, does it still bring forth those emotions?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, the emotions fear, the emotions they seeing that thing,
Speaker 5: seeing the eyes, hearing that very strange way how I
Speaker 5: want to say, spoke, but I even remember about how
Speaker 5: the moof of its move was moving but hearing they
Speaker 5: were very very strangely all heard it just bizarre. Just
Speaker 5: never heard anything like that ever ever, anything.
Speaker 3: Like that again, a strange voice. Okay, and I appreciate
Speaker 3: you coming on sharing that for our listeners, No problem,
Speaker 3: that wonderful stuff and keeping contact down okay. Anytime even
Speaker 3: want to chat about this stuff and you can't chatter announce,
Speaker 3: feel free drop me a line, all right, Yeah, it's fine,
Speaker 3: that's always welcome on. All right, okay, take care of
Speaker 3: yourself and and we will speak.
Speaker 5: Soon you too, next. Thank you, vera march no problem
Speaker 5: bye for now, right bye bye.
Speaker 3: Well that's all for this week. Keep updated and connected
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Speaker 3: you have an encounter that you'd like to share on
Speaker 3: the podcast, you can email me at UFO Chronicles at
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Speaker 3: via the contact page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast
Speaker 3: dot com. A big fank you to Anne, Pamela and
Speaker 3: Mary for sharing tonight, and as always, thank you all
Speaker 3: for listening. I will be back next week. Till then,
Speaker 3: stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye, b