Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
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Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of January sixth,
Speaker 2: we are discussing the tenth episode of the new season
Speaker 2: the current most recent season of Shrinking. It is called
Speaker 2: Changing Patterns.
Speaker 1: You should make sure to say the tenth episode, but
Speaker 1: not the last episode for the season. Last season they
Speaker 1: only had ten. And I saw a lot of people
Speaker 1: took to social media after this win aired and said,
Speaker 1: is that it is that where it ends?
Speaker 2: It was not a great idea.
Speaker 1: Well, we had twelve, we had twelve.
Speaker 2: Two more to go. Yes, definitely didn't tie anything up
Speaker 2: because you know, it's got two more left we had.
Speaker 2: It was Alice's birthday was the main focus of this episode,
Speaker 2: and Jimmy bought her a car. He bought her the
Speaker 2: same car that her mom once had, and right in
Speaker 2: the course of acquiring said car, medicute.
Speaker 1: Lady Yes, played by Kobe Smolders, who was his co
Speaker 1: star on How I Met Your Mother. There though he
Speaker 1: was his character was married, so they were never a
Speaker 1: romantic coupling on that show, but you know, adorable to
Speaker 1: see them together and to see her and you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's hope this is a bookmark for a future
Speaker 1: plot line, because yes, she is not only very cute
Speaker 1: and funny, but would fit in amazingly well with his group.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You can absolutely see her just sl slidding on in
Speaker 1: there the way that Derek too did, Right.
Speaker 2: You can you can tell by the by.
Speaker 1: The banter that they she'll be bantering with Liz and
Speaker 1: Gabby in no time. Yes, so I hope that would
Speaker 1: be nice because I like that actress, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and it did seem at the very end
Speaker 2: of the episode that it was going there because she
Speaker 2: texted him and he was smiling and he was like
Speaker 2: getting ready to answer, and then Alice burst in on
Speaker 2: him and screamed at him for trying to keep her
Speaker 2: from talking to Lewis. And she made a good point
Speaker 2: of being like, you know, you knew this was helping me.
Speaker 2: You know, it's one thing to be like, hey, I
Speaker 2: don't love it. You know, it's hard for me that
Speaker 2: you're talking to him or whatever, right, But he just
Speaker 2: kind of blew up at Lewis and said, don't talk
Speaker 2: to her anymore.
Speaker 1: And what did he really say though? Didn't he say
Speaker 1: something like I never want to see you.
Speaker 2: But did he also say like stay away from an Alice.
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: We have to rewind that. But Lewis certainly took it
Speaker 1: to me stay away from my family and for the
Speaker 1: purposes of the show. I mean, bred Goldstein is adorable
Speaker 1: and he's doing a wonderful job making Louis somebody who
Speaker 1: just want to give a hug too. But I was
Speaker 1: reading some chat about the show and somebody said, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't get to take the people. You know, he
Speaker 1: shouldn't get to take Jimmy's support system to be his own.
Speaker 1: He used to find his own people, right, and so
Speaker 1: that maybe Jimmy has a legitimate quarrel there, but of
Speaker 1: course not on the show, on this show, come on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also just the way Jimmy, you know, blew
Speaker 2: up at him.
Speaker 1: Not what you would want from a therapist, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: He would like to have him holding onto his bleep
Speaker 1: a little bit tighter than that is, you know, being
Speaker 1: able to have some especially since it has helped Alice
Speaker 1: and Alice and seemed to be right, you know, find
Speaker 1: their connection meaningful, right, But you can see why that
Speaker 1: would be difficult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: I think it was more the way handling enough birth
Speaker 1: another birthday was a little harsh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially after the cake and the car and you
Speaker 2: know everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, boy, I mean, I know many Coopers are small,
Speaker 1: but they could barely fit those three alleged teenagers, those
Speaker 1: those three twenty somethings tending to.
Speaker 2: Be pretending to be although I mean, Alice looks eighteen
Speaker 2: to me, but she does, but the guy maybe not
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 1: No, I think that the two girls are in their
Speaker 1: early twenties, the two acts and I didn't look up
Speaker 1: full grown dude face right. As to whether he's really
Speaker 1: a full full grown dude, he just has just cut
Speaker 1: the face off one and tasted on his own. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but that they just like crammed in there right. Ah,
Speaker 1: they're cute Mini Coopers, but it would be fine for me,
Speaker 1: but just you know, normal sized humans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looks so funny. At one point before my daughter
Speaker 2: started to drive, but when she was close to it,
Speaker 2: we were we were at our mechanics garage for some
Speaker 2: other reason, and they had a Fiat van but it
Speaker 2: was like teens. I mean, it was a Fiat like
Speaker 2: you know, because there are some Fiats that are like
Speaker 2: the size of a Mini Cooper, and this was basically
Speaker 2: if you just stretched it out a tiny bit more
Speaker 2: so that it was theoretically a man. And it was
Speaker 2: extremely cute. And my daughter's like, oh my gosh, look
Speaker 2: how cute that is. I would love that. And I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, that is a tin can.
Speaker 2: Like yes, in no way are you going to be
Speaker 2: driving that vehicle because the I mean it would have
Speaker 2: crumpled with just the lightest tap. I was like, no,
Speaker 2: we're not doing that. Yeah. Always reminded.
Speaker 1: Mini Cooper's always reminded me of degressing. But when I
Speaker 1: was in high school, I was in a little special
Speaker 1: singing group that our high school choir director made, and
Speaker 1: he decided was for the my centennials. They decaid he
Speaker 1: was going to reach out to other schools and audition
Speaker 1: kids from other schools, and it wound up being everybody
Speaker 1: from my school plus plus this one girl. And she
Speaker 1: drove a tiny little car, even tinier than a Mini Cooper.
Speaker 1: I think it just it was like some sort a
Speaker 1: foreign car. He was tiny, and the guys enjoyed picking
Speaker 1: it up and putting it over the fence. O. No,
Speaker 1: and these arequire guys, so we're not talking, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the football team, right yeah, oh yeah, So
Speaker 1: good luck, good luck to you there, Alice, drive safely, please, honey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speak, don't be going.
Speaker 1: To any parties and then driving home because then we're
Speaker 1: gonna start this whole thing over again.
Speaker 2: Right. But yeah, but that was, you know, the whole
Speaker 2: thing of like you try to do what your kid
Speaker 2: wants for their birthday or for any other special occasion,
Speaker 2: and then they're like, you know.
Speaker 1: They just something else comes in.
Speaker 2: Something else, ruin it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm always super nervous about things like that because yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so it's so fraud. But and then speaking of
Speaker 1: parent child interactions that are cringe, Oh my gosh, Gabby
Speaker 1: and her mom whoa gold metal face acting from Vernie Watson, Oh,
Speaker 1: maternal disapproval and you know, I am going to make
Speaker 1: you how dare you?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, Gabby finally possibly don't wait until she's completely packed up.
Speaker 2: I know her house is packed up, like and then
Speaker 2: Gabby's like, oh, actually, no you're not. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's a good idea, and like, I mean, is this
Speaker 2: how sold?
Speaker 1: Like what? Yeah? What?
Speaker 2: What was the status? But yeah, so so that didn't
Speaker 2: go well for Gabby at all, No, even though she
Speaker 2: was doing what Paul advised her to do rightly.
Speaker 1: So and we had a we had the joke who
Speaker 1: died followed by somebody actually died and the weirdest funeral.
Speaker 1: What is the deal with Julie's husband? Does he have
Speaker 1: no family? Because it looked like maybe the production didn't
Speaker 1: want to pay for extras.
Speaker 2: Nobody there.
Speaker 1: It was just like Jimmy's Circle and.
Speaker 2: And they even made a joke like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: my boss's girlfriend's husbands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, it was just weird. And then later
Speaker 1: Brian is talking to her about money and she said,
Speaker 1: you know, to give it to Elliott's daughter and grandkids.
Speaker 1: Apparently not her daughter and grandkids. Right, So does she
Speaker 1: just go around getting involved with guys who had much time.
Speaker 2: At least that she meets in the course of her.
Speaker 1: Exactly if I were Paul, I would be a little
Speaker 1: taken aback. And I think it doesn't seem to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, even later she has a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: friends over at Paul's apartment, and that's a thing. Were
Speaker 1: they there at the funeral? I don't think I saw him.
Speaker 2: They were just outside of the camera. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So and she gets up to give a speech that's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember so many things about him, thank you for coming.
Speaker 1: So what exactly was the status of their.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just seemed weird. Yeah, Now, there were there were
Speaker 1: a great deal of birthday negotiations going on in this show.
Speaker 1: Do you make such negotiations with your kids? Because I don't, No,
Speaker 1: I am completely on party. It's like, what are you
Speaker 1: doing for my birthday? What are you arranging for for
Speaker 1: my birthday? Right, there's never a question of Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: going to go out with my friends, see you right,
Speaker 1: I'll eat a few bites of cake with you if
Speaker 1: you insist. Is that a thing that like non families
Speaker 1: with independent children.
Speaker 2: Do, I mean, I guess possibly, But I mean Alice,
Speaker 2: she's eighteen, she's still in high school, like yeah, But
Speaker 2: also most of the negotiations were with Gabby and Liz,
Speaker 2: who are next who are not her actual parents, even
Speaker 2: though they definitely serve in that capacity quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, would you probably have your birthday? I
Speaker 1: mean in our house, we would have had kids over
Speaker 1: to have a party. Yeah, So kids just go out
Speaker 1: with their friends at that age, And well.
Speaker 2: I don't see why you don't do both. I mean, right,
Speaker 2: that's and that's sort of what they had negotiated, but
Speaker 2: then that got up ended when she realized that there
Speaker 2: was a car waiting for her outside.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think the purpose of having the
Speaker 1: party with your parents' friends is gifts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also Sean Mader of good cake, and she
Speaker 2: didn't even have any.
Speaker 1: She requests yellow that sure looked like chocolate.
Speaker 2: But yellow cake with chocolate frosting.
Speaker 1: Chocolate frosting I.
Speaker 2: Guess I think is what she got.
Speaker 1: It was a good looking cake. Sean has a handy
Speaker 1: guy to have around. Yes, so I don't know. It
Speaker 1: seems like you would have two parties, right, one going
Speaker 1: out with friends and one going out with your father's
Speaker 1: friends who are your dear friends also and also are
Speaker 1: pretty well off and could give you some super nice.
Speaker 2: Some real nice presents. Yeah, and we didn't have Charlie.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there? Was he at the at the little party
Speaker 2: the party? No. I guess they didn't want to pay
Speaker 2: for him either, because I feel like he's basically part
Speaker 2: of them, Yes, part of the gang.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So we now find that that Mac is
Speaker 1: not only put her dog pictures on his walls, but
Speaker 1: also on the cans of beer.
Speaker 2: That's right, he brewed a new he like, made up
Speaker 2: a new a new beer.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter because everybody's happy.
Speaker 2: Right, Derek's happy. There's happy because Liz is reverted to
Speaker 2: her her normal self and not and stop trying to
Speaker 2: be overly solicitous and nice. He couldn't handle that. Nobody could,
Speaker 2: nobody could.
Speaker 1: She yells at him and he smiles.
Speaker 2: It's like all's right in the world.
Speaker 1: You don't question other people's relationships. That's fine, that's right.
Speaker 1: Paul stepped into the place of Gabby's dad to uh
Speaker 1: inquire as to Derek's intentions. Yes, although they seem to
Speaker 1: have trouble actually going on a date. Seems to be
Speaker 1: lots of things get in the way. Yeah, they go
Speaker 1: to a funeral. Yeah, he goes, he's at the birthday party.
Speaker 2: He shows up for those kind of events.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's a he's a flexible dude, hand handsome.
Speaker 2: That was again addressed in this one. They definitely aren't
Speaker 2: going to miss saying that.
Speaker 1: I think they did have a have a quick daddy
Speaker 1: issues moment where somebody asked Paul, who hurt you and
Speaker 1: he said, my bost my father.
Speaker 2: End of conversation. We all have moved on from there.
Speaker 1: Yep. Oh well, so I enjoyed as always Liz as
Speaker 1: grammar comm Yes you speak.
Speaker 2: For me, Liz, Yes, speak for me. Thank you. We
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Fight the good fight, Liz, keep it up.
Speaker 2: Next week we will discuss the eleventh episode of season two,
Speaker 2: The Drugs Don't Work, and we'll see you back here
Speaker 2: tomorrow for our weekly roundabout round up.
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