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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of January sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>we are discussing the tenth episode of the new season

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<v Speaker 2>the current most recent season of Shrinking. It is called

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<v Speaker 2>Changing Patterns.

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<v Speaker 1>You should make sure to say the tenth episode, but

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<v Speaker 1>not the last episode for the season. Last season they

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<v Speaker 1>only had ten. And I saw a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>took to social media after this win aired and said,

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<v Speaker 1>is that it is that where it ends?

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<v Speaker 2>It was not a great idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we had twelve, we had twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Two more to go. Yes, definitely didn't tie anything up

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, it's got two more left we had.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Alice's birthday was the main focus of this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jimmy bought her a car. He bought her the

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<v Speaker 2>same car that her mom once had, and right in

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<v Speaker 2>the course of acquiring said car, medicute.

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<v Speaker 1>Lady Yes, played by Kobe Smolders, who was his co

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<v Speaker 1>star on How I Met Your Mother. There though he

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<v Speaker 1>was his character was married, so they were never a

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<v Speaker 1>romantic coupling on that show, but you know, adorable to

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<v Speaker 1>see them together and to see her and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's hope this is a bookmark for a future

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<v Speaker 1>plot line, because yes, she is not only very cute

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<v Speaker 1>and funny, but would fit in amazingly well with his group.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You can absolutely see her just sl slidding on in

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<v Speaker 1>there the way that Derek too did, Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You can you can tell by the by.

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<v Speaker 1>The banter that they she'll be bantering with Liz and

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<v Speaker 1>Gabby in no time. Yes, so I hope that would

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<v Speaker 1>be nice because I like that actress, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And and it did seem at the very end

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<v Speaker 2>of the episode that it was going there because she

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<v Speaker 2>texted him and he was smiling and he was like

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to answer, and then Alice burst in on

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<v Speaker 2>him and screamed at him for trying to keep her

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<v Speaker 2>from talking to Lewis. And she made a good point

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<v Speaker 2>of being like, you know, you knew this was helping me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's one thing to be like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't love it. You know, it's hard for me that

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking to him or whatever, right, But he just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of blew up at Lewis and said, don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>to her anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And what did he really say though? Didn't he say

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<v Speaker 1>something like I never want to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>But did he also say like stay away from an Alice.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember. I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to rewind that. But Lewis certainly took it

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<v Speaker 1>to me stay away from my family and for the

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<v Speaker 1>purposes of the show. I mean, bred Goldstein is adorable

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<v Speaker 1>and he's doing a wonderful job making Louis somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>just want to give a hug too. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading some chat about the show and somebody said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get to take the people. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't get to take Jimmy's support system to be his own.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to find his own people, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe Jimmy has a legitimate quarrel there, but of

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<v Speaker 1>course not on the show, on this show, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also just the way Jimmy, you know, blew

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<v Speaker 2>up at him.

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<v Speaker 1>Not what you would want from a therapist, right, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>He would like to have him holding onto his bleep

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit tighter than that is, you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>able to have some especially since it has helped Alice

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<v Speaker 1>and Alice and seemed to be right, you know, find

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<v Speaker 1>their connection meaningful, right, But you can see why that

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<v Speaker 1>would be difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was more the way handling enough birth

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<v Speaker 1>another birthday was a little harsh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially after the cake and the car and you

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<v Speaker 2>know everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, boy, I mean, I know many Coopers are small,

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<v Speaker 1>but they could barely fit those three alleged teenagers, those

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<v Speaker 1>those three twenty somethings tending to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be pretending to be although I mean, Alice looks eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>to me, but she does, but the guy maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>so much.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think that the two girls are in their

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<v Speaker 1>early twenties, the two acts and I didn't look up

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<v Speaker 1>full grown dude face right. As to whether he's really

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<v Speaker 1>a full full grown dude, he just has just cut

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<v Speaker 1>the face off one and tasted on his own. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but that they just like crammed in there right. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're cute Mini Coopers, but it would be fine for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but just you know, normal sized humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, looks so funny. At one point before my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>started to drive, but when she was close to it,

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<v Speaker 2>we were we were at our mechanics garage for some

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<v Speaker 2>other reason, and they had a Fiat van but it

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<v Speaker 2>was like teens. I mean, it was a Fiat like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because there are some Fiats that are like

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<v Speaker 2>the size of a Mini Cooper, and this was basically

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<v Speaker 2>if you just stretched it out a tiny bit more

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<v Speaker 2>so that it was theoretically a man. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>extremely cute. And my daughter's like, oh my gosh, look

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<v Speaker 2>how cute that is. I would love that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, that is a tin can.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yes, in no way are you going to be

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<v Speaker 2>driving that vehicle because the I mean it would have

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<v Speaker 2>crumpled with just the lightest tap. I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not doing that. Yeah. Always reminded.

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<v Speaker 1>Mini Cooper's always reminded me of degressing. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in high school, I was in a little special

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<v Speaker 1>singing group that our high school choir director made, and

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<v Speaker 1>he decided was for the my centennials. They decaid he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to reach out to other schools and audition

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<v Speaker 1>kids from other schools, and it wound up being everybody

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<v Speaker 1>from my school plus plus this one girl. And she

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<v Speaker 1>drove a tiny little car, even tinier than a Mini Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just it was like some sort a

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<v Speaker 1>foreign car. He was tiny, and the guys enjoyed picking

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<v Speaker 1>it up and putting it over the fence. O. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and these arequire guys, so we're not talking, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, the football team, right yeah, oh yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>good luck, good luck to you there, Alice, drive safely, please, honey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, speak, don't be going.

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<v Speaker 1>To any parties and then driving home because then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start this whole thing over again.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. But yeah, but that was, you know, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing of like you try to do what your kid

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<v Speaker 2>wants for their birthday or for any other special occasion,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're like, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They just something else comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>Something else, ruin it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm always super nervous about things like that because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so it's so fraud. But and then speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>parent child interactions that are cringe, Oh my gosh, Gabby

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<v Speaker 1>and her mom whoa gold metal face acting from Vernie Watson, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maternal disapproval and you know, I am going to make

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<v Speaker 1>you how dare you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Gabby finally possibly don't wait until she's completely packed up.

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<v Speaker 2>I know her house is packed up, like and then

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<v Speaker 2>Gabby's like, oh, actually, no you're not. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good idea, and like, I mean, is this

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<v Speaker 2>how sold?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what? Yeah? What?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the status? But yeah, so so that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go well for Gabby at all, No, even though she

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<v Speaker 2>was doing what Paul advised her to do rightly.

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<v Speaker 1>So and we had a we had the joke who

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<v Speaker 1>died followed by somebody actually died and the weirdest funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the deal with Julie's husband? Does he have

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<v Speaker 1>no family? Because it looked like maybe the production didn't

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like Jimmy's Circle and.

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<v Speaker 2>And they even made a joke like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>my boss's girlfriend's husbands.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, right, it was just weird. And then later

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<v Speaker 1>Brian is talking to her about money and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to give it to Elliott's daughter and grandkids.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently not her daughter and grandkids. Right, So does she

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<v Speaker 1>just go around getting involved with guys who had much time.

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<v Speaker 2>At least that she meets in the course of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly if I were Paul, I would be a little

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<v Speaker 1>taken aback. And I think it doesn't seem to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even later she has a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>friends over at Paul's apartment, and that's a thing. Were

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<v Speaker 1>they there at the funeral? I don't think I saw him.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just outside of the camera. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So and she gets up to give a speech that's like, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember so many things about him, thank you for coming.

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<v Speaker 1>So what exactly was the status of their.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It just seemed weird. Yeah, Now, there were there were

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal of birthday negotiations going on in this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you make such negotiations with your kids? Because I don't, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I am completely on party. It's like, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing for my birthday? What are you arranging for for

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday? Right, there's never a question of Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go out with my friends, see you right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll eat a few bites of cake with you if

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<v Speaker 1>you insist. Is that a thing that like non families

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<v Speaker 1>with independent children.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, I mean, I guess possibly, But I mean Alice,

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<v Speaker 2>she's eighteen, she's still in high school, like yeah, But

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<v Speaker 2>also most of the negotiations were with Gabby and Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>who are next who are not her actual parents, even

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<v Speaker 2>though they definitely serve in that capacity quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, would you probably have your birthday? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean in our house, we would have had kids over

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<v Speaker 1>to have a party. Yeah, So kids just go out

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<v Speaker 1>with their friends at that age, And well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see why you don't do both. I mean, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's and that's sort of what they had negotiated, but

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<v Speaker 2>then that got up ended when she realized that there

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<v Speaker 2>was a car waiting for her outside.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I think the purpose of having the

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<v Speaker 1>party with your parents' friends is gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also Sean Mader of good cake, and she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even have any.

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<v Speaker 1>She requests yellow that sure looked like chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>But yellow cake with chocolate frosting.

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate frosting I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess I think is what she got.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good looking cake. Sean has a handy

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<v Speaker 1>guy to have around. Yes, so I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like you would have two parties, right, one going

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<v Speaker 1>out with friends and one going out with your father's

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<v Speaker 1>friends who are your dear friends also and also are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well off and could give you some super nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Some real nice presents. Yeah, and we didn't have Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there? Was he at the at the little party

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<v Speaker 2>the party? No. I guess they didn't want to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for him either, because I feel like he's basically part

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<v Speaker 2>of them, Yes, part of the gang.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So we now find that that Mac is

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<v Speaker 1>not only put her dog pictures on his walls, but

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<v Speaker 1>also on the cans of beer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, he brewed a new he like, made up

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<v Speaker 2>a new a new beer.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't matter because everybody's happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Derek's happy. There's happy because Liz is reverted to

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<v Speaker 2>her her normal self and not and stop trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be overly solicitous and nice. He couldn't handle that. Nobody could,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody could.

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<v Speaker 1>She yells at him and he smiles.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like all's right in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't question other people's relationships. That's fine, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul stepped into the place of Gabby's dad to uh

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<v Speaker 1>inquire as to Derek's intentions. Yes, although they seem to

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<v Speaker 1>have trouble actually going on a date. Seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>lots of things get in the way. Yeah, they go

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<v Speaker 1>to a funeral. Yeah, he goes, he's at the birthday party.

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<v Speaker 2>He shows up for those kind of events.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's a he's a flexible dude, hand handsome.

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<v Speaker 2>That was again addressed in this one. They definitely aren't

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<v Speaker 2>going to miss saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they did have a have a quick daddy

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<v Speaker 1>issues moment where somebody asked Paul, who hurt you and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, my bost my father.

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<v Speaker 2>End of conversation. We all have moved on from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Oh well, so I enjoyed as always Liz as

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<v Speaker 1>grammar comm Yes you speak.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, Liz, Yes, speak for me. Thank you. We

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. Fight the good fight, Liz, keep it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week we will discuss the eleventh episode of season two,

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<v Speaker 2>The Drugs Don't Work, and we'll see you back here

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