1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: That is such a cool vibe. I didn't even want 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,519 to talk over it at the end. That is Silicon 3 00:00:04,639 --> 00:00:09,080 Kong broken Down, really really cool. This is Matt Connorton unleashed. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,000 Of course, we are live on this Saturday morning, August 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,880 twenty four, twenty twenty four. Jenny is here as well 6 00:00:14,919 --> 00:00:17,320 at the news table, present and account of our and 7 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:20,879 we've actually played a few Silicon Kong tracks so far 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,359 this morning, but we have is this the man himself 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,800 joining us via SKYPEP Hello, Hello, welcome. 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,839 Speaker 2: Oh can you hear me? Yes? 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: Yes? Can you hear us? Yes? 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: I can? 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: Very good, very good. Yeah. We played out England, Yes, yes, 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,679 So we played Broken Down, and we did play a 15 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:43,119 little bit earlier before the break Cosmic Groovepool, and I 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:49,200 also played even though the let's see what was it computer? 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,000 I'm trying to get back to it now. I played 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,560 a couple of older things as well, because. 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,799 Speaker 2: Was that do you Compute? Oh? 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Yes, do you compute? I was listening of that last 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,240 night and I was like, I gotta play this one too, because. 22 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: That associated with downy Iris. 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Cover is it? 24 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that from Pittsburgh. Yes, I had no idea. 25 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: I had no idea. I really liked that song. 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,079 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank Donnie Iris too. 27 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: I'll have to check I'll have to check out the 28 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,439 Donnie Iris. 29 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 30 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: When I think of Donnie Iris, the only Leah Ah Leah, 31 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:26,040 which is a personal favorite of mine, and what's the 32 00:01:26,079 --> 00:01:28,840 other one? Love is like a rock? Is that? Yeah? Yeah? 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: Being that I'm a ynger and I grew up on 34 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,560 in Pittsburgh, you know, I'm just so used to it. 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,519 I grew up listening to Donnie Iris. I loved him. 36 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:39,239 I mean, he's awesome, He's he's king cool to us. 37 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,760 He's like, uh, he's like an icon. So, I mean, 38 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,480 so it was only fitting that I did a suitable 39 00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:47,519 cover that fit him and hopefully he liked it. 40 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you know if he's ever heard it? Like, 41 00:01:51,599 --> 00:01:53,079 have you ever met him or talk to him? 42 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: You know, I can't say I have. You know. I 43 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,560 actually just released that not too long ago, maybe a 44 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,519 couple of weeks ago. Yeah, you know, because uh, I 45 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,480 I do uh like my My covers are very as 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,200 you can tell, they're very unique. I'm sure if you 47 00:02:07,239 --> 00:02:09,719 would go to my Reverb Nation page or my uh 48 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,080 Facebook page, I do covers, but they're different. 49 00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:18,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no they are. I also listened to maybe 50 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,000 I'll play later I listen to your cover of Destroyer. 51 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,199 Oh yeah, it's awesome. 52 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,479 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, thank you. 53 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: It's really really cool. By the way, So what is 54 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:28,960 a Genser? 55 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: Genser that's a pittsburgher. Okay, it's it's just you know that, 56 00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:38,759 it's a it's it's a form of identification for Pittsburgh, Okay, 57 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,639 because you know, because we uh you know uh and that, 58 00:02:42,039 --> 00:02:44,599 and you know Yun's and you know, we have our 59 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:46,719 own little dialogue out here in Pittsburgh's. 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: Well, apparently I had no idea. I don't know what 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,039 any of these things are. 62 00:02:50,599 --> 00:02:52,479 Speaker 2: Well, I work with you know what. I worked with 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,919 a lady here and she's actually from New Hampshire, and 64 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,719 her accent is you know, I can tell she's definitely 65 00:02:58,759 --> 00:03:00,599 from New Hampshire. I mean, you have your own little 66 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:02,960 dialogue accent thing going on up there. 67 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: Right right, Well, we have the It's It's strange though, 68 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,439 because in New Hampshire we have variations of it. For example, 69 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:16,759 there's that classic well not just New Hampshire, there's that 70 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,080 classic New England thing of which I think with every 71 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,360 generation becomes less and less prevalent prevalent where people drop 72 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:26,840 their rs, you know, like insaid of park the car, 73 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,120 they say pack the ca ah. But but there's also 74 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:36,479 but but there's also variations where uh, you know, where 75 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,199 you do pronounce your rs. But but there's something else 76 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:41,879 weird going on where people can still tell that you're 77 00:03:41,919 --> 00:03:44,120 from here even though you do pronounce your ours. It's 78 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:48,159 it's strange, there's different, there's there's levels to it, you 79 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:48,400 know what. 80 00:03:48,639 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, I was traveling down south. 81 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,439 This is just a cool story, and I stopped in 82 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:56,520 this little mini mart. It was Bowling Green, Kentucky. Outside 83 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,919 Bowling Green, Kentucky, there's two in the morning, and there's 84 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,199 this nice little girl working the counter, and I was 85 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:03,879 looking around, say, hey, where do you put the cigarettes at? 86 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:05,360 She said, you're from Pittsburgh, ain't you. 87 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,479 Speaker 1: Oh she could tell huh. 88 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the jinns oh. 89 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:12,879 Speaker 1: So not not just so that's that's not like a 90 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:15,560 Pennsylvania thing. That's very specifically a Pittsburgh thing. 91 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: It is definitely a Pittsburgh thing, a Steel city thing. 92 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, very good, And so Silicon Kong 93 00:04:22,759 --> 00:04:26,480 is from the Steel city of Pittsburgh. 94 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: Well, suburb of Greensburg, Pennsylvania. It's about about twenty minutes 95 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,920 outside of Pittsburgh southeast. 96 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,319 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and tell us about now there's a movie 97 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,160 coming right, the Steel City Architect. 98 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,759 Speaker 2: Yes, there is. I'm glad you mentioned that. Yeah, it's 99 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,879 a movie called it's called The Steell City Architect, a 100 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,439 Pittsburgh rockumentary. What that is. That's a movie that will 101 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,120 be released in January. It's with with Drew Moreland of 102 00:04:52,399 --> 00:04:56,839 Improv Chills Studios and uh Santo's or Tess Patrick of 103 00:04:56,879 --> 00:04:59,000 downcast Burg. Now what that is. It's kind of like 104 00:04:59,079 --> 00:05:01,319 years and years ago. I'll tell you what I guess. 105 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,439 I have time, I can tell you this story. Yeah, 106 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:06,120 a couple years ago, a couple of years ago, there 107 00:05:06,199 --> 00:05:09,279 was a producerritter, like I said, her name is Drew Morland, 108 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,839 and she was a filmmaker. She's she's won quite a 109 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,399 few awards, and she's also an author of a couple 110 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,000 of books, which I'll post on my Facebook page if 111 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,519 I wants to check it out. But anyway, what happened 112 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,639 was she was looking for she was doing a zombie movie, 113 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:27,759 and I was like, well, you know, somebody contacted me. 114 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,240 One of her affiliates to contact me, and I was like, well, hey, 115 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,120 you know, I wouldn't mind doing like a soundtrack. You know, 116 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,920 I do some songs for a because I love horror movies. 117 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:36,519 I grew up with horror movies. And I was like, 118 00:05:36,519 --> 00:05:38,120 wouldn't that be really cool? I said, well, I'll tell 119 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,879 you what. How about you know I'm playing this show. 120 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:43,120 It was a place called Casey's in Pittsburgh, and I said, 121 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,199 come out, check out the show, and you know, if 122 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:47,720 you like it, maybe we can arrange something. I can 123 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:50,560 do some soundtrack work. So make a long story short. 124 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:54,240 She came out with her constituent at the time and 125 00:05:54,519 --> 00:05:57,000 she was like, I came out and had I come out. 126 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,680 I'm a one man show, much like grim Rock. I know, 127 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,639 you know grim Rock. 128 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,759 Speaker 1: Yes, and he's in the chat room by the way, 129 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,279 and yes, we. 130 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,079 Speaker 2: Love Grimmy, we love me and grim got a lot 131 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,639 of things going on, so people please stay. But anyway, 132 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,160 back to the story, and she came out and she 133 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,079 was like, well, hey, you know, I was like, we'll 134 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,240 come out, and I come out. I opened that particular 135 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,519 set with the Ballad of Dwight Fry cover by Alice Cooper, 136 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,839 Oh nice, yeah, and I come out in a straight 137 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,519 jacket and the mask and she was she lost it. 138 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,040 She was like, oh my god, get my camera and 139 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,480 she said, do you mind if I filmed this. I 140 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,040 was like, no, you go right ahead and cool. I 141 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,360 like to have a little video thing anyway and make 142 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:37,040 a long story short after the set, after I was 143 00:06:37,079 --> 00:06:38,680 done playing, I was like, so, is there a chance 144 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,560 of me getting in the soundtrack. She's like soundtrack? She said, 145 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,680 I want you in the movie. 146 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:43,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 147 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:45,199 Speaker 2: And I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute. 148 00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:47,680 I'm just a musician. I'm not an actor. She said, 149 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,639 you know what you was doing up on stage, that 150 00:06:49,879 --> 00:06:51,680 was acting and you should look into it to make 151 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,560 a long story short. We've had a long, good, uh 152 00:06:56,199 --> 00:07:00,519 a long relationship with each other since then, and we've 153 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:03,279 done a couple of movies Hidden behind a Veil, which 154 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:06,279 was like by Drew Moron in Santos Patrick's Past k 155 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,319 as well. We also did Pizza Musical. These things will 156 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:12,519 be get released within due time, so if people just 157 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:15,439 want to stay tuned to my Facebook page, I will 158 00:07:15,439 --> 00:07:18,399 be releasing the links to the YouTube in any anyway. 159 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,839 So I was like, we know what I had this 160 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,879 cool idea I wanted to do like kind of a 161 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,639 spinal tap movie, you know, I want to do a song. 162 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:30,240 It was basically Silicon Kong is totally a character, and 163 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:32,639 what he is is he is a guy that has 164 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,079 been in Yinzer, a steel city guy who's been trying 165 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:38,480 to pound a pavement in Pittsburgh and trying to get 166 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,959 recognition for years to no avail. So people just kind 167 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:42,839 of overlooked him. 168 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 169 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, what it was was like, and I like to 170 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,959 kind of do tie that in. I always had this 171 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,040 cool idea of tying out into it like a movie, 172 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,319 and I explained it to him. I told her about it, 173 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,600 and she came back to me a couple of weeks 174 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,360 later she said, let's do it. I was like, dude, 175 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,879 what she said, Let's do this movie? I was like, 176 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,759 WHOA wait a minute. I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, but 177 00:08:02,319 --> 00:08:05,040 to make a and uh now we started filming in 178 00:08:05,079 --> 00:08:09,079 twenty two. Okay. What she wanted was she wanted a 179 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:15,000 nice timeline of a struggling musician in Pittsburgh. Okay, And 180 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,839 we just finished the last scene I think a couple 181 00:08:17,879 --> 00:08:20,920 of months ago, and that's due for release and like 182 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:22,959 I said, in the new year, it'll be due for release. 183 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Like sa If anybody wants to keep up on my 184 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,040 Facebook page, I also have a Reverb Nation page, some 185 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,360 music page, Silicon Kong. I always put the links to 186 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,960 everything on that. So yeah, like I said, so that's 187 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,440 exciting for me. I mean, it's it's uh, you know, 188 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:41,799 it's it's it's just kind of kind of strange anoid 189 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:43,440 because like I said, I was for years. I've just 190 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,840 been a musician and I've all of a sudden, i 191 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:48,480 see myself on camera and I see myself on and 192 00:08:48,519 --> 00:08:52,559 it's like whoa, yeah, but it's cool, it's cool, so. 193 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: So so Silicon Kong is the character you Ian hemy 194 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,799 are the are the You're the trayer, the portrayer trade. 195 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:02,679 But do you always are you always Silicon Kong on 196 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:04,840 stage or are you okay? 197 00:09:04,919 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah on stage? You know what I've been, Uh, 198 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,679 I've been around and pitt Like I said, this is 199 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,840 my home, this is my home area. Like I'm definitely 200 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:13,919 a Yen Durum from the Pittsburgh region. I've been in 201 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,519 countless bands, Leaping the Bull, f six Aprils Full Still mana. 202 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,799 You know, I've always been the singer and a bassis 203 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:23,320 in a band of some kind of band. Yeah, but 204 00:09:23,399 --> 00:09:26,559 the Silicon Kong stuff. Actually, what happened there, uh, Pseudo 205 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Aniam was another one I was in. What happened there 206 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,879 was I have I'm a multi instrumentalist, so everything that 207 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,399 you're hearing, I play everything. Oh wow, Yeah, I play 208 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,639 it all. I mean, I I play there's songs I'll 209 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:42,279 play mandolin. There's songs I'll play harmonica. There's songs I'll 210 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:44,120 play drum. You know. All the drums are me or 211 00:09:44,279 --> 00:09:47,279 were they're drum machines, but there's some kinds sometimes I 212 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,840 use live drums as well. 213 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:49,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 214 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the intruments, I play them all. So yeah, 215 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:55,440 that's and what happened was because I've always just had 216 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,000 a love for music and I just enjoy it so much, right, 217 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,279 So I taught myself every you know, And there's particular 218 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,200 songs that I could couldn't really divulge with another band. 219 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,159 You know. There's certain certain feelings with certain songs that 220 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,840 I needed to get across in my own dialogue, in 221 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:15,440 my own way. Yeah, and it just in a live band, 222 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,840 it just wasn't working. So I credit, like I said, 223 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,080 the new wave movement in the industrial metal music is 224 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,320 a huge influence to me, so as well as the 225 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,480 progressive rock. I mean, of course, let's go back to 226 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,360 Pink Floyd, Yes, Crack the Sky, which actually West Virginia's guys, 227 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,080 Cracked the Sky. Great band, if anyone has a chance 228 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,559 to check them out. They were kind of overlooked, very 229 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:40,720 very good progressive rock band. I actually covered one of 230 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:43,159 their songs called from the Greenhouse. They could probably find 231 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:44,799 out on my YouTube. So if yeah, family, almost go 232 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,440 on my YouTube. I have a YouTube channel. Ian Hemy 233 00:10:47,879 --> 00:10:49,799 just pulled up and it'll pull everything up. I have 234 00:10:49,919 --> 00:10:54,720 I think eighty videos around. Okay, yeah, so and that 235 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:59,440 is actually one of them. But anyway, and so I 236 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:02,440 just started tinkering around. I built my own little home studio, 237 00:11:02,919 --> 00:11:06,679 and you know, much to my, much to my how 238 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,120 can I put it? And well, my wife's used to it, 239 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,159 so I've been married thirty two years. She's used to it. 240 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:16,320 She supports it. But anyway, and I would just sit 241 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,000 around and just you know, I get ideas. Sometimes I 242 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 start with the drum line. Sometimes it's a bass line, 243 00:11:22,039 --> 00:11:25,159 a piano line, or guitar line of lyrics, and I 244 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:28,639 would just sit down and tinker with them, and they've 245 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:32,039 become songs, and they become the material that is now 246 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:32,799 Silicon Kong. 247 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's got to be very sort of liberating 248 00:11:36,879 --> 00:11:38,960 to be able to do that. I mean, obviously I 249 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,240 wonder what it would be like to do that. I've 250 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,320 I've played in a lot of bands. I'm not currently 251 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,159 active with that, but I've played in a lot of bands, 252 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,759 but I've never done anything where it was just me creating. 253 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:53,200 And I'm not although I'm not a multi instrumental, you know, 254 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,559 I play bass. I can play a little bit of guitar. 255 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: And bass is my actually bass is my primary primary instrument. 256 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,480 That's why I start playing. 257 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, And so in the bands that you fronted, 258 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:05,919 you were the the bass player and lead singer. 259 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I was the bassis and lead singer. 260 00:12:08,519 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Did you get I'm curious about this. Did you get 261 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,320 a lot of people who would be like WHOA, that's unusual? 262 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,360 Even though it's not that unusual. I mean there are 263 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,879 there are singing bass players like Geddy Lee and Tom Area. 264 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, book foreigner, But what would people come 265 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,440 up to you and be like WHOA, I've never seen that. Yeah, 266 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,559 you know what. The reason you do that is because 267 00:12:27,639 --> 00:12:31,399 I only play six string basses. Oh yeah, I'm a 268 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:32,799 huge Primus fan as well. 269 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,799 Speaker 1: Okay that makes sense. Yep. 270 00:12:35,759 --> 00:12:39,639 Speaker 2: So and you know Steve Harris, yeah, Getty Lee of course, 271 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:44,120 uh Les Claypool. Let me see who else there's there's 272 00:12:44,159 --> 00:12:46,960 a Mark Antois the who I mean I've always uh 273 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,480 what happened was from how I started out as I 274 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:51,360 was fifteen years old and a friend of mine who 275 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,840 was in a neighborhood kid excellent guitarist. This was back 276 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,480 when Metallica was huge. Just was during the one Yeah 277 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,919 Metallica and he was like, dude, we're gonna do man 278 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,679 oh you And I was like, dude, I could play 279 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,159 a guitar because at that time I could play a 280 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,960 little bit of guitar. And he's like, oh no, we 281 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,000 already have enough guitarist. I was like, man, if you're 282 00:13:08,399 --> 00:13:10,120 if you can play bass, you can be in So 283 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,080 what happened there is my grandmother guard rust Soul. She 284 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,120 went to a flea market. Okay, remember keep in mind 285 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,480 I'm only fourteen fifteen at the time. She went to 286 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,519 the flea market and found this old Gibson p bass 287 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,720 and she brought her home. I told her, you know, 288 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,480 she said, you know, I was actually talking to her 289 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,799 about and I was like, well, you know, I wanted 290 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,399 to be in this band, but they need a bassis. 291 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,960 And she said, what's a bassis. It's a guitar four strings, 292 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,399 you know. Of course I had to explain it to her, 293 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:37,759 and that woman came home the next week with one 294 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:39,720 from the flea market, and I learned to play it 295 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,399 nice and and that's where it all started. And I 296 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,159 played bass in that band for a while. And the 297 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,399 thing about a bassis is we're as hard to find 298 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,600 as drummers. Sometimes I think we're harder to fine than drummers. 299 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,399 And so I just stuck to it. But what happened there, man, 300 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,240 It is like I perfected it within a year, and 301 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:02,039 then I got bored. So that's when I started turning 302 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,240 to Steve Harris, okay, Eddie Lee, and I started to 303 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,360 really really perfect the base and in ways that played. 304 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,159 I wanted to play it the way no one else 305 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,159 did and with you know, locally, no one else late, 306 00:14:15,639 --> 00:14:16,360 and so I did. 307 00:14:17,159 --> 00:14:20,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I can relate to what you're saying about 308 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:22,679 bass players being in high demand. You know when I 309 00:14:22,759 --> 00:14:26,320 was when I used to be really active. I played, 310 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,519 and at one point I was in three different bands 311 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:31,679 that were all actively playing out and I was I 312 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,879 was kind of sought after in the scene. But in 313 00:14:34,919 --> 00:14:37,759 my case it was never because you know, I would 314 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,440 rate myself as a bass player as average, you know. 315 00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:44,600 But but I had a good reputation, you know, I know, 316 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,200 no drugs or alcohol or anything. People knew they would 317 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,080 depend on me to show up and that went a 318 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,879 long way. 319 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,039 Speaker 2: I agree with you there, yeah, yeah. 320 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: But but with drummers, it's interesting because you mentioned drummers 321 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,840 being hard to find. A lot of the guests that 322 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:02,679 we have on the show, and Jenny can attest to 323 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,120 this too, it's like, you know, the drummer, if we 324 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:07,159 have a band on the drummer will be the one 325 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,840 member of the band who's in like multiple bands, because 326 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,799 drummers are so hard to find. And my theory about 327 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,240 it is when you're first, when you're growing up and 328 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:18,399 you start to get interested in playing an instrument, when 329 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:20,279 you got to have the conversation with the parents about 330 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:22,799 how I want to start playing something. If you say drums, 331 00:15:23,159 --> 00:15:26,279 that's like the one thing, and maybe the tuba, maybe 332 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,519 those are the two things that they're going to try 333 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:30,559 to talk you out of, Like, oh, it doesn't have 334 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:33,840 to be that because nobody wants all that noise. So yeah, 335 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:36,320 drummers are really hard to find. Like every drummer I 336 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,720 know is in like ten bands. It's amazing. 337 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, the drum I have a studio. Drummer's names Kane Cross. 338 00:15:42,879 --> 00:15:44,639 People want to dig him up. He's on Facebook too. 339 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,559 But in the last due actually Leaping the Bull was 340 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,799 a due or we was in. It was kind of 341 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:53,720 like Royal Blood, but we as a more creepier, kind 342 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,000 of gothy version of Royal Blood. We had a run 343 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,759 since we started. What happened there was we started finished 344 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:06,000 our first CD in November of twenty nineteen. Okay, now 345 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,120 you know where this is going. I was like, oh, yes, dude, 346 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,759 let's get out there. We're going to get out there 347 00:16:09,799 --> 00:16:12,879 and nail it. You know how many months there boom, pandemic, 348 00:16:13,159 --> 00:16:15,879 no one's doing nothing, yep. So what we did is 349 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:18,440 we continued. What we did is we continued to do 350 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,759 some really cool videos like say, femone goes on my YouTube, 351 00:16:20,759 --> 00:16:23,759 they can find them. They're Leaping the Bull videos. They're 352 00:16:23,799 --> 00:16:27,360 like many horror movies. Oh yeah, they're really really actually 353 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:29,639 cool kind of both. They're cool to watch. It's like 354 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:33,039 a mini horror movie. But anyway, so we continue doing 355 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,960 that up until well, just recently he sustained an injury 356 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,919 on a bike, act a motorcycle accident, so he's unable 357 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:44,919 to play, so, you know, unfortunately. But anyway, so yeah, 358 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,279 I mean, and you know, we was like, oh yeah, 359 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:50,759 you know, but the pandemic came in. The pandemic, I mean, 360 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,679 I'm sure effect that everybody as first being an artist, 361 00:16:54,759 --> 00:16:59,399 and we were all just knocked down one you know, 362 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:02,360 and it was sad. It was really sad actually in 363 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:05,559 this area. It's sad because I want to say, fifty 364 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:07,400 percent of the bands that I used to play with 365 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,920 and eighteen and nineteen yeah, never came back. Yeah, half 366 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,519 of the venues never reopened. Yeah, you know, because it 367 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:17,440 was that was really hard on everybody. 368 00:17:17,519 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, absolutely. 369 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. So during that time period also whenever I was 370 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:25,119 doing Leaping the Bulls, that's whenever I really started to 371 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,960 focus on doing a you know, releasing more Silicon klong things. 372 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,440 You know that I had lots of downtime because you know, 373 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,920 I actually in twenty twenty we actually leaped in the 374 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,039 bull was a schedule to play all year. I mean 375 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:40,599 we had to cancel every show. Wow. 376 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking, you know. 377 00:17:44,039 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: You know, what can you do though, I mean pandemic. 378 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,880 I'm you know, I work in health field myself, so 379 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,880 I know that it was terrible, you know. 380 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and who knows, I mean you might not. 381 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,119 You know, we have to find these silver linings where 382 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,359 we can. And it did. It did kind of worse 383 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,400 a lot of people to be creative in ways that 384 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,200 maybe that and considered. And you know, some of the 385 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,440 projects you know that we talk about on the show, 386 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:10,079 different guests that we've had, you know, some of them 387 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,480 found themselves kind of in scenarios very similar to yours, 388 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,319 where they started just creating their own music on their own, 389 00:18:16,319 --> 00:18:18,319 where they didn't necessarily have to be in a room 390 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:23,400 with anybody, and and really doing something like Silicon Kong 391 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,079 where you know, like you said, you know, you're doing 392 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,480 it all yourself and you know, which is which is 393 00:18:28,519 --> 00:18:31,599 pretty cool? Is by the way, so when you play live, 394 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,039 because you talked about playing live, when you play live 395 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:37,720 as Silicon Kong, are you with a band or is 396 00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:39,559 it all you or does it vary or. 397 00:18:40,599 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: I'll tell you how I do that. I have a 398 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,440 like I said, I have an a home studio. And 399 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,480 what I do, like I said, I record, Like I 400 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:48,359 said once again, I play everything. So what I'll do 401 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,279 is I'll take my laptop when I have two or 402 00:18:50,279 --> 00:18:52,359 three of them. And what I have is I have 403 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:57,720 those songs on a playlist. I use Sony products, recording products, yeah, studio, 404 00:18:58,519 --> 00:19:00,400 and what I'll do is take them, you know, I'll 405 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,519 take the lyrics out or and and I'll just get 406 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:06,240 up and sing to them. Or sometimes i'll play I'll 407 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,240 take a guitar line out and play guitar, or take 408 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,480 a bass line out and I'll play bass. I mean, 409 00:19:10,519 --> 00:19:13,359 it varies, I mean, but usually on stage. Yes, it's 410 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,119 just me, okay, okay, some kind of outrageous outfit. 411 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 412 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm also a very big Alice Cooper fan, so. 413 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: Oh me too, me too. Absolutely. If you're just joining us, 414 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,920 we're talking with Ian Hemy about Silicon Kong and uh 415 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Ian of course is a yinser? Am I saying that correctly? 416 00:19:35,839 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: Yes, Matt, I just want to point out I know 417 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,440 you're New England. Hey, just we can still be friends man. 418 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: Okay, oh, why is there some sort of sports rivalry 419 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,319 I don't know about. 420 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,559 Speaker 2: Now we're just referring to the NFL. 421 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:58,279 Speaker 1: Okay, see, I don't know. See I'm not I'm not. Bruins, Bruins, Bruins. 422 00:19:58,759 --> 00:19:59,519 Jenny knows her. 423 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: I got it. I gotta, I gotta stay true. Steelers, Steelers, 424 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,119 and speaking time. 425 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:10,079 Speaker 1: I have no clue. Jenny knows more about sports ball 426 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,920 than me. I don't. I know nothing. I don't even know. 427 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,799 I don't know how many Indians are in a football game. 428 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:18,480 I don't know anything. I'm just again, I'm completely lost. 429 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: But like I work with one lady. She's from New England, 430 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,480 and we always discussed the football. You know, she's a 431 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:26,960 huge Patriots and you know, me and her are always 432 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:27,759 kind of going at it. 433 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, So, so I'm really curious to see this movie. 434 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:38,920 I'm a huge by the way, this is Spinal Tap. 435 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,599 Happens to be my favorite film of all time. 436 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:44,039 Speaker 2: Wow, and you'll love it. You'll love it, you love it. 437 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm very curious to see it. And this 438 00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:48,720 is this is supposed to come out in January of 439 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:50,440 twenty five, is that correct? 440 00:20:50,519 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: Right now? It's on YouTube and my producer, like I said, 441 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,599 Drew Moreland is working on various streaming platforms. Yeah, she's 442 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,559 working on those now. So by the time it happens, 443 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,680 and by the time she's I mean right now, the 444 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,319 movie is in post production, so by the time she's 445 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,400 done with all of that. And I mean, the woman 446 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:10,319 is awesome. I mean she does so much. Like I said, 447 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,400 she's a producer or director, an actor or an author. 448 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,400 Oh my god, like I said, I definitely. Like I said, 449 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,400 I can't stress enough. But I'm going to put on 450 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,000 my Facebook page after we're done here a link to 451 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:24,240 her book. It's called The Horrific This is Cool, The 452 00:21:24,279 --> 00:21:28,359 Horrific Tales of Artificial Intelligence, and her full name is 453 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,559 Drew Lenney Morland. And I will post that on my 454 00:21:31,759 --> 00:21:33,880 timeline on my Facebook, so if people want to go 455 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,640 and check it out, it's an awesome read. Actually back 456 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,359 to that real fast, and I'll get back to the movie. 457 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,200 She actually started writing the book I want to say 458 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,119 eight months ago, okay, and we was talking about it, 459 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,799 you know, me and her were just kind of brainstorming 460 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:51,160 about it because as Silicon Kong, as you can tell, 461 00:21:52,039 --> 00:21:57,079 has a AI thing going some kind of AI vibe going. 462 00:21:57,839 --> 00:22:01,480 And we was talking about it, and and she was like, 463 00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:04,279 you know, we was discussing how it just h mankind 464 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,640 becomes a really dependent on u A in various in 465 00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:11,920 various reasons, in many ways. I was like, well, you 466 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,960 know what, when you write the book, I will write 467 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,720 a song. So when your book is done, we'll let 468 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,799 people know, Hey, here's the book, and this is a 469 00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:24,720 song inspired by that book. Actually, I'll have to send 470 00:22:24,759 --> 00:22:27,960 that to you. It's actually a song called Cyber Jesus. Okay, 471 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,440 And I will be releasing it here within the next 472 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,200 week because her book, Like I said, you just finished 473 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,079 her book and just put it up for Cell last week. 474 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,480 Oh yeah, yeah, so I will be releasing that. It's 475 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,559 a brand new tune and it's pretty it's pretty cool. 476 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,559 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, send it to us. You know something something 477 00:22:43,559 --> 00:22:44,960 that we love to do here on the show. We 478 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,079 do world radio premieres. Okay, So we would love to 479 00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:49,640 be the first FM station to air it. 480 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I said, I have I have an internet 481 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,920 an internet station waiting forward to but the first FM. 482 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Yeah you can have the first FM. Yeah, you can 483 00:22:59,039 --> 00:22:59,319 have it. 484 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, we love it. Yeah, yeah, very cool, and we'll. 485 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,799 Speaker 2: Back to thee. Back to so what about the movie again? 486 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: No, I'm really looking forward to seeing it. 487 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,279 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I like said she's working on a Yeah, 488 00:23:12,319 --> 00:23:15,480 back to that, she's working on various streaming platforms. Uh 489 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,960 we like I said. Her ultimate release dates she like 490 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:23,960 to do January twenty five. Yeah, and uh, like I said, 491 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,680 I mean, as soon as that's up, and as soon 492 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,640 as the information is released to me, you know, I 493 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,799 will be putting it up on all my social media's. 494 00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:35,359 I have Instagram, I'm on x TikTok, I'm on Facebook, 495 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,720 i have YouTube reverb Nation. Like I said, all you 496 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:41,000 gotta do is typeing I hemy on your Google time. 497 00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:45,000 It'll pull up everything, okay, and you can anyone and 498 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,880 everyone can find me. 499 00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: Hey, where's the name come from? By the way, Silicon Kong. 500 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:52,319 Speaker 2: Ah, good story, I got time. I'll tell you. 501 00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: Oh we got time? Yeah? 502 00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:58,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, cook uh on a. See my general I 503 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:02,359 grew up in the late late seventies and early eighties. Okay, 504 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,640 so every year at I don't know if they did 505 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,400 the same thing in New England, but here in Pittsburgh, 506 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,880 Pittsburgh and NAT every year at Thanksgiving time, It was 507 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:17,319 kind of like a tradition with my family. You know. 508 00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:20,119 Of course, Thanksgiving the big, a big bit, you know, 509 00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:23,880 big holiday for a lot of families. But anyway, every 510 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,880 year they would play King Kong on Thanksgiving Day. It 511 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,400 would be uh, I'll never forget. It was always uh, 512 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,039 Wizard of Oz was first, and then they would play 513 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,640 King Kong. That's back when we only had three or 514 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,720 four channels to watch. 515 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:40,319 Speaker 1: Remember, yeah, I remember when they would play Wizard of Oz. 516 00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:42,640 They might even still do that. 517 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they still do, but I remember back then, 518 00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:47,480 and they would always play King Kong right up the 519 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,480 original King Kong of course, and King Kong was always 520 00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:52,400 kind of like my favorite monster movie. I mean, I 521 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,359 love Godzilla and Gammer and all that, but King Kong 522 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,880 was always the top. Anyway, back to the name. I 523 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,160 was sitting around, like I said, uh, you know, coming 524 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,880 in and out of bands like I've done, like I 525 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,079 was doing, and I was trying to think of a 526 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,640 cool thing. I was just like, well, maybe I just 527 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,319 released you know these songs under Ian Hemi, and I 528 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,559 was like, nah, it's not really that cool. Anyway, I 529 00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:15,039 was sitting down one day and I was talking to 530 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:16,279 a friend of mine. Now, I was just kind of 531 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,640 kind of messing around and the newest King Kong with 532 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:22,640 Jack Black. Do you ever see that movie? 533 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,279 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm aware of it. I've never actually watched it though. 534 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: It's a newer movie. I mean it was like the 535 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,680 whole start of it all. But anyway, maybe was on 536 00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:31,319 and it was it was on a Sunday, and we 537 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,440 was watching it downstairs, and I was just that's at 538 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,599 that time my home studio was downstairs, and I'm looking around, 539 00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:37,839 you know, I was just kind of messing around with 540 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,160 my music and that nutry and I was like wow, 541 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,480 I said, you know, the new remake of the King 542 00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:45,960 Kong with Jack Black is excellent. So if anybody gets 543 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,240 a chance, definitely check it out. Anyway, so I was 544 00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:52,119 like wow, you know, and I just kind of reverting 545 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,640 back to my childhood how much I loved King Kong. Yeah, 546 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,160 and wow, I wish I could use that somehow. And 547 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,039 I was like, Kong Kong Kong, you know, I could 548 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:02,240 be like I could be King King of the Electronics. 549 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,640 And then my friend said, hey, wait a minute, why 550 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,400 don't you go with Electronic Kong? And I was like wait, 551 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,000 And jokingly I was Actually it came upstairs and my 552 00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:14,160 son was watching something on YouTube or something like that, 553 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,880 and they mentioned Silicong Valley. Okay, I was going to 554 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,880 the restroom. I went back downstairs and just half heartedly 555 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:22,599 and I don't know where. I just said, how about I 556 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,720 just go to Silicon Kong. 557 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,799 Speaker 1: And he was like, dude, yep, yep, yep. 558 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: So I'm the king of the electronics. 559 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: I can tell you. So Friday nights, I'm a co 560 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,279 host on a show called retro Spectrum Radio with poly 561 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,359 C and so during the show, Paul always asks me 562 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,559 to plug whatever I'm going to be doing here on 563 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,480 Saturday morning. And so I mentioned I said Silicon Kong, 564 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,640 and he loved the name. He had not heard it before. 565 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,319 He was like, that's great. He loved that. 566 00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: You know, Lass Halloween. Another local band, Jessica Bella band 567 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,319 a good band. Check them out. You can find them 568 00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:01,079 on the internet. To Jessica Bella, She's a cute, cute 569 00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:06,079 little Pittsburgh pop singer. Anyway, Uh, we work, uh have 570 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,240 a feel. They have a company called MP Records. Being 571 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,559 being an artist, you know, an actor and a musician. 572 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:13,319 We all try to help each other out here, you know, 573 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,680 that's what you do. You know, if we can help 574 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,279 each other out in some form artistically, we will. Anyway, 575 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:20,920 she was doing a show and she invited me to 576 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,799 come up to her show last Halloween, and h kind 577 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:27,759 of make you know, I'm kind of promoting the movie. 578 00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:31,160 I've been promoting the movie probably really hard for I'd 579 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,359 say about eight months now, because like I said, I 580 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,319 knew we was wrapping it up and finishing it anyway. 581 00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:38,960 So I got up on stage. Before I went on stage, 582 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,559 I came out. I was outside of this place called 583 00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:44,000 Gerbils in Pittsburgh, and uh, you know, this one lady 584 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,440 came up and she, you know, hey, how are you doing? 585 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,000 You know, of course, you know, and we're talking. You know, 586 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:50,480 I'm dressed up almost, you know, dressed up and everything 587 00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:52,279 except for my mask. So she knew I was some 588 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,960 kind of some kind of artist there for a purpose anyway. 589 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,880 So she said, oh, yeah, who you are. I said, yeah, 590 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,400 I'm here. I'm gonna do a little thing on stage. 591 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,319 She said, what what's your name is? Said Silicon Kong. 592 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,319 She said that is an awesome villain name. 593 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: I was like, yes it is, Yes, that's true. 594 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: So that just stuck to me, I just kind of 595 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,880 remembered that. 596 00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I think it's great. And uh, I 597 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,880 think it's cool that you're doing stuff with grim Rock. 598 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,640 But you you you awesome Graham. You kind of you 599 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:24,039 kind of hinted, but it sounds like you've you've got 600 00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:27,000 things in the works that you can't can't necessarily talk 601 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,799 about yet. 602 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: Or not right now, man, Grima, we have a plan. Okay, 603 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:36,680 all like Italians. All Italians is your listeners and not 604 00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:39,519 just a state, you know, stay posted to me or 605 00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:42,799 grim Rock. Uh and for for further information. 606 00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:48,839 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, did you say all like Italians? Is that? Uh? 607 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: That's that's Pittsburgh right there, Pittsburgh Dialogue. 608 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha. I do feel like I feel. 609 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: Like I've got that in that and at N and 610 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:02,799 that and that. 611 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:06,039 Speaker 1: Well, you really do have your own dialect there. 612 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. 613 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Are there a lot of are you able 614 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,720 to play out a lot? Are there a lot of 615 00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:15,599 good you did mention after the pandemic or during the pandemic, 616 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,519 a lot of venues closed, but yeah, a. 617 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: Lot of them just never reopened and it was just 618 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:20,960 so sad. 619 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: And what you're doing is unique. Are there still a 620 00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:25,480 lot of places to play, or do do you hit 621 00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:27,119 the road and get out of the area and play 622 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:27,720 some places. 623 00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Matt. I just we just recently 624 00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:33,559 thanks to grim Rock. Actually, you know, I'd have to 625 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:35,079 say I have to thank grim Rock for that, but 626 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,519 just recently I've been racking shows up left and right back. 627 00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:42,599 Now I can also say, like Silicon Kong was somewhat 628 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,559 around during the pandemic and that, but prior to that, 629 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,039 I was in a real quick story here. I've always 630 00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:55,799 kind of liked it strange musical combinations, Like there's a 631 00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:58,839 b I was an industrial metal band called F six. Now. 632 00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:01,839 What that consisted of was me playing bass and singing 633 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,720 and a my friend guitarist at the time, Dustin Marx 634 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:08,079 was guitarist, and we would come up on stage with 635 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,720 just a computer, you know, wow, and we would play guitar. 636 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:14,480 I would play bass and sing. So years and then 637 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:17,440 after that, I also did another thing called Pseudo Ano 638 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,240 with Jeff Kettemy and we would do the same thing, 639 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,000 you know, we would he would do the singing part 640 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:24,759 and I would kind of do the rapping, kind of 641 00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:29,960 creepier a rock vibe. The strange thing about that. Why 642 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,240 I'm mentioning that is then this is we're talking. This 643 00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:38,200 is between two thousand and five, and I'd say fourteen 644 00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:40,720 or fifteen, and we would go out there and people 645 00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,799 would be like, dude, where's your drummer, where's your drummer? 646 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,599 Where's your band? So at first we want like this 647 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,079 kind of coincides with what I do. It really wasn't 648 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,480 well accepted. People in Pittsburgh want to see bands. They 649 00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:00,519 see an old stage full people headbanging, playing ner infunts, 650 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,720 whatever the case may be. So for me to get 651 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:06,039 up Aaron grim could a'test this. He's he's actually had 652 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,640 to deal with this as well. Getting up on stage 653 00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:13,160 as a just you playing something or what I back 654 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,400 then was not accepted. But since the pandemic, I will 655 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,839 say this, I mean that's nothing. Really, nothing good came 656 00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:22,839 of that pandemic. I don't care what analysts. It was 657 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:28,799 terrible in every possible way. But the only thing that 658 00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:32,759 did come out is we decided, you know, going out 659 00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,640 on stage with a computer or whatever and like a 660 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,000 like a lot of the rappers or hip hop artists 661 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,720 would do. Now it's accepted. Now people are like, hey, 662 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,799 that's pretty cool. Now, so it kind of works out 663 00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:48,880 for that. So because of that, like I said, yeah, now, 664 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,799 because of that, and it's more widely accepted in the area. Yeah, 665 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:55,559 I got lots of shows coming up. Yeah. Yeah. 666 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,519 Speaker 1: Well, plus I would imagine too, other bands must love 667 00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:02,240 playing with you, because when you get to play with 668 00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:06,200 someone who like like if you're if you're opening for 669 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:09,799 somebody and they have to follow you and you're not 670 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,519 going to take you don't have a you don't need 671 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,519 twenty minutes to break down a drum set, you know 672 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:14,960 what I mean? 673 00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:17,799 Speaker 2: And dat And like I said, you know, the thing 674 00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:21,319 about it is, there's a few bands excuse me out here, uh, 675 00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:24,640 God hates Unicorns, prime Eate, there's a few of the 676 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,359 bands that did survive the pandemic. 677 00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 678 00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: And we're all really all of us are really tight 679 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,599 in the area. Yeah, Curshiables. There's a couple other bands, 680 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,400 like I said, And the thing about that is we 681 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:40,119 just all even though we may be different, different styles 682 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,440 and different genres, we all support each other. I mean, 683 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,640 there's a handful of us that support each other. Of course, 684 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,759 it's just like any of the big city there are 685 00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:49,559 some bands that are like, yeah, great, shown as soon 686 00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:52,359 as you turn around there stabbing me in the back. Sure, 687 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,079 you know, there's there's quite a few of those two. 688 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:56,359 But the thing about it is like these guys, like 689 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,319 I said, back to the God Hates Unicorns and Prime 690 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,519 Aid and Parcial, these are guys that are really down 691 00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:05,599 to earth, excellent human beings. 692 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,359 Speaker 1: That's good. 693 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we stick with that. We basically like to 694 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,039 stick with our low circle of various bands that we 695 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,240 like to play with. So yeah, and we we enjoy 696 00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:17,880 playing for each other. I mean I've opened up for 697 00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:21,599 God Hates Unicorns. I've done stuff with Prime Eate uh, 698 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,119 you know, and we always had a great time. You know, 699 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,920 we loved it. We all support each other. 700 00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's really cool. God Hates Unicorns. I've heard 701 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,960 that name. That name came up on the show recently. 702 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,880 Grim might have might have mentioned them. 703 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: But awesome. I will say, I can't really prevey much 704 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,559 better just to be saying they'll be they'll be around 705 00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:49,759 with us in one form or another. Yeah, just stay tuned. 706 00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:51,359 Like I said, people just gonna have to go on 707 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,559 the Facebook pages mine and Grim's and Grim's website and 708 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,960 you know, just keep keep posted because there's some surprises coming. 709 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,079 That's all I got to say. 710 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,799 Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool. Well we look forward to that. 711 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,559 Well listen, uh Ian hemy also known as Silicon Kong. 712 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,320 We're gonna have to let you go in a moment. 713 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,280 But it's been wonderful having you on. I've really enjoyed 714 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:13,760 talking with you. 715 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: I enjoyed being here and. 716 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a big fan of what you're doing. I 717 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:17,960 love your music. 718 00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and I really appreciate uh you 719 00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,960 for supporting you know, guys like me and grim. Uh. 720 00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:28,519 It's awesome because every little bit helps. And like I said, 721 00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:31,440 back to the Facebook pages, you know, going to Facebook pages, 722 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,159 likes are cool, shares are better, you know. 723 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. What should people know about where 724 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:40,679 to find you online? 725 00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 2: Like I said, really back to what I said. You 726 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,480 just type in Ian hemmy and every anything that has 727 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:48,599 is affiliated with Silicon Kong in any possible way, we'll 728 00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:51,039 pull up on one of the if not all. I'm 729 00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:54,039 on the id MB, the actors thing on you know, 730 00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:56,440 the Hollywood actors thing. I mean, I'm also a producer 731 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,400 and a writer, you know, like I've done things with 732 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,800 Mow and stuff like that. So anywhere you type in 733 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,039 Ian Hammy and pull it up. Just click the link 734 00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:06,599 and I'm sure you'll find a link to take you 735 00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:07,719 to everything that I do. 736 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,679 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you are very googleable. 737 00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: Yes, very googleble I like that. 738 00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very good, very good. I'm gonna close out 739 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,440 this segment with it. This is another track that I 740 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,119 found on Reverb Nation that I really like. Twitter padded, 741 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:22,159 I really. 742 00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got real quick. I'll tell you the story 743 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,280 behind that. You know where that came from? Jen? Do 744 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,519 you know where I came from? 745 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,079 Speaker 1: Oh, she's she's actually out of the room for a moment. 746 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well growing up you know Disney. Let's 747 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,840 go back to you and growing up Bamby the movie Bamby, 748 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,320 Remember ever Bamby's like, what's wrong with them? Oh? They're okay, 749 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,760 they're just Twitter paid. 750 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I got you. 751 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,039 Speaker 2: Cartoons are my life. You know. I love Kromedi's and cartoons. 752 00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:56,599 I'm very animated, as you can tell. 753 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 754 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's also the John Burrows remix. Oh okay, 755 00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:06,199 you know John Burrows. 756 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,559 Speaker 1: I feel like I do. 757 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: Look it up. 758 00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:13,559 Speaker 1: All right, all right, very good? All right, Ian Hemy 759 00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:17,480 aka Silicon Kong, thank you so much, my friend. I 760 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,880 can't wait, I can't wait to see the movie. And uh, 761 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,760 I'm sure we'll what's that? 762 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry? I select some people, ye have I said? 763 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,920 Just find me mainly A lot of that stuff will 764 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,320 be released on my mainly my Facebook pages. Okay, so 765 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,920 people just follow me, friend me, whatever you want to 766 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,320 do if you want to get more information on it, 767 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,599 and also on my Facebook pages, you can scroll through 768 00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:40,000 it and know take you. I had to also have 769 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,079 a Facebook page for Silicon Kong. Okay, so I also 770 00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:46,039 have another Facebook page for the Still City Architect of 771 00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:49,800 Pittsburgh documentary itself too, oh on Facebook. 772 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. All right, ian Hemy, We'll let you go 773 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,400 for now, but I'm sure I'm sure we will talk again. 774 00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:57,519 Speaker 2: In the future, I hope. So thank you, all. 775 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: Right, man, thank you, take care bye bye. 776 00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:00,679 Speaker 2: All you take care now, Matt. 777 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,159 Speaker 1: All right. That was ian Hemy, Yes from Pittsburgh.