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Speaker 1: Here are the comments of Mark Stoops and here Cameron
Speaker 1: Mills talking about Kentucky basketball. And now we'll hear from
Speaker 1: Aaron Gershawn of the Castballs. He was there in Oxford
Speaker 1: watching the upset our own Billy Rutlison. A little bit
Speaker 1: later on Je Pikoro, who also covered that game in
Speaker 1: Oxford and for the longest time a member of the
Speaker 1: Reds Network, we'll talk about the late Pete Rose. That's
Speaker 1: all I had here on the statewide BBI border to
Speaker 1: Borrier is the big blowin sider Dick Gabriel, Airin Gershawn,
Speaker 1: Billy Rutledge. Jeff Pikora will join us a little bit
Speaker 1: later on, formerly a longtime member of the Reds Network.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about Pete Rose. But obviously
Speaker 1: we got to talk about this game. You heard Mark Stoops,
Speaker 1: a relaxed Mark Stoops and Billy here and here every
Speaker 1: week producing the Mark Stoops Show. And I have to
Speaker 1: admit that on the sidelines they take the lead late
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, wow, So now I you know, in
Speaker 1: the latter stages of gam UK games, from about the
Speaker 1: middle of the fourth quarter on, I start wondering about
Speaker 1: player of the game. What will I ask? Just like Aaron,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're like, who do I request? Absolutely, you
Speaker 1: know what am I going to ask? So now I'm
Speaker 1: thinking which which hero? Okay? Then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they throw that what's it forty five fifty yard bomb
Speaker 1: that should have been picked off, and the guy climbs the
Speaker 1: ladder and makes you a nice catch, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: and honestly, my shoulders dropped. I'm like, God, oh, I
Speaker 1: thought that I have done this so many times. I'll
Speaker 1: this one get away? You know, what are the bright spots? Stuff?
Speaker 1: You know? For years I've asked, and then and more stuff.
Speaker 1: The fumble. It wasn't because of the flag, you know.
Speaker 1: And yet and honestly, I when I'm watching the kid
Speaker 1: line up the field goal and Tom Leech is given
Speaker 1: his numbers, you know, he's over for one from fifty
Speaker 1: yards out, He's he's the kid. Just really wasn't. I
Speaker 1: hadn't kicked many field goals, no, no, and this wasn't.
Speaker 1: As the moment he kicked it, I stuck my hands
Speaker 1: out like this. I'm been like, oh, it looked like
Speaker 1: I was pushing it, but I'm like, no, that's way off,
Speaker 1: you know. And then I turned to watch the celebration
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. But what was it like for you
Speaker 1: in here? Because as you produce these games, and you
Speaker 1: can hear us during the commercials and you and I
Speaker 1: talk in the postgame and things like that. But different
Speaker 1: experience for you.
Speaker 2: I know it is just because I'm locked in and
Speaker 2: I digest the game in a much different way. I
Speaker 2: hear what happens before I see it, so you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's weird to watch the play happen, but you
Speaker 2: know the result. It's an instant replay.
Speaker 1: The TV is how far behind it?
Speaker 2: It's like a two plays Yeah, so it's.
Speaker 1: In our booth. It was two and a half minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was strange. But this will go
Speaker 2: down in history, There's no doubt. And as much flak
Speaker 2: as Mark Stoops has been given, are not going forward
Speaker 2: on fourth downs and situations this year?
Speaker 1: Would I would?
Speaker 2: And I did.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He probably had his most aggressive call in his coaching
Speaker 2: career and it and it paid off, and he was
Speaker 2: jovial tonight and as he should be, absolutely talked a
Speaker 2: little bit about that play and how that wasn't even
Speaker 2: the first option for the play. I thought that was
Speaker 2: a little surprising to hear. But my favorite part was
Speaker 2: the part where he said he turned to Brad White
Speaker 2: and said, Buddy, we were due, We were due for
Speaker 2: one of these, for the kick to miss for a
Speaker 2: huge upstead on the road, possibly the biggest road upset
Speaker 2: against an SEC team of all time for Kentucky. It's
Speaker 2: something that we'll remember and it'll be something that you know,
Speaker 2: after you played Georgia to a one point game the
Speaker 2: week before, it's it's it's very impressive two weeks for
Speaker 2: Kentucky and in.
Speaker 1: Halftime at a Georgia Alabama game, we'll get to that.
Speaker 1: You had to be thinking, well, maybe that Georgia game
Speaker 1: wouldn't that InCred maybe Georgia is just not that good.
Speaker 3: And then the next puts thirty four points up in
Speaker 3: a blink of an eye.
Speaker 1: But when he said that about Brad and he told
Speaker 1: that story to Tom after the game, excuse me, and
Speaker 1: I thought he was like, after the kick, he mad,
Speaker 1: we earn or you know, we deserve it.
Speaker 3: It was before the kick. Yeah, he's told that to
Speaker 3: us too. Yeah, post compressor, yep. Yeah. It was just
Speaker 3: that fourth and seven o'clock. I just keep going back
Speaker 3: to that. I thought up there in the press box.
Speaker 3: I was like, it's one or two things. Mark stoops
Speaker 3: either lost track of downs and thinks it's third down,
Speaker 3: or they're just trying to draw him off and get
Speaker 3: it to fourth and manageable fourth and two, I mean
Speaker 3: fourth and seven at your own twenty. I just that
Speaker 3: was it was good.
Speaker 1: Where the clock was he had to is what shocked me.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, everything about it was just Laane Kiffin said
Speaker 3: it best. Mark steps broke character and did something he's
Speaker 3: probably never done before in his life. And it caught
Speaker 3: old miss off guard. It caught us everyone off guard.
Speaker 3: But you know what, it worked. And then two plays later,
Speaker 3: is that not the most Kentucky way to score a
Speaker 3: touchdown to the You have you have to hold your
Speaker 3: breath for the ball to get in the end zone
Speaker 3: where Gavin Weinstat call up and Josh Cattis, thank god,
Speaker 3: is right there to catch it for the game winning score.
Speaker 3: Just just a wild, wild sequence there and that fourth
Speaker 3: and seven call. I joked with him before with stoops
Speaker 3: before he started the press conference, and I said, they're
Speaker 3: not calling you conservative today. I thought that was yeah,
Speaker 3: he said, maybe I was.
Speaker 1: You know that play whimsit. Uh. I was as close
Speaker 1: to that play as I am to that wall. So
Speaker 1: I see the ball come loose, and it's amazing how
Speaker 1: quickly your mind works, because that's that's the first thing
Speaker 1: that went through my mind was, oh my god, they're
Speaker 1: going to giving this away. Here we go again. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to ask somebody, you know. And then and
Speaker 1: everybody keeps saying you recovered it in the end zone.
Speaker 1: He did not. No, he got it. He was at
Speaker 1: the one year one. All he had to do was
Speaker 1: fall down.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know it was. It worked out, but gosh, like,
Speaker 3: even even that made you hold your breath.
Speaker 2: Well, how unlucky Kentucky's been with fumbles this year. They
Speaker 2: they were due to use the same expression. They were
Speaker 2: due for it. But if they would have lost that fumble,
Speaker 2: I think the talk would have been, why is Gavin
Speaker 2: Wimsy in the game for Brock Vandergriff and the you know.
Speaker 3: Especially after sum Ol Karenbig just broke off an eleven
Speaker 3: yard run to play before Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The play was successful until the moment he lost the
Speaker 1: fall the cadage and he took it to the goal line.
Speaker 1: You know so. And I'm not saying that vander Riff
Speaker 1: wouldn't have. But somebody asked Stoops about it on the
Speaker 1: show tonight. Is there a package where Wimsic can throw
Speaker 1: the ball? And having seen him in public and private scrimmage,
Speaker 1: is the answers yes, But you just hadn't done it yet.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I think it would have
Speaker 2: been such a talking point because that game, if it
Speaker 2: wasn't about Kentucky's defense, it was about Brock. Vandergrity thought
Speaker 2: he was fantastic, Yes, and that throw to Barryon will
Speaker 2: be the one that's remembered perfect. But his connection with
Speaker 2: Dane Key in the first half was great. There were
Speaker 2: some schemed up plays that just didn't work out. I
Speaker 2: think one I think of is one to Dingle.
Speaker 3: That was actual, Yeah, he was wide open, or the.
Speaker 2: Throwback which Key threw it to Vandergriff, it was just
Speaker 2: I mean, he would have ran for a while if
Speaker 2: he would have caught that.
Speaker 1: So Tom Leach said they ran at in practice all.
Speaker 2: Week, so they were waiting for them score.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, well you mean Kentucky. Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: they scored every time.
Speaker 3: So that's a hard play to execute in game. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: but I know it was there, It was there, It
Speaker 3: was there. No, I mean Kentucky's oftense. I know they
Speaker 3: only put twenty points on the board. And you know,
Speaker 3: the run honestly was probably their worst game running the
Speaker 3: ball all season outside of a couple of plays. But
Speaker 3: the past game I thought it was its best of
Speaker 3: the year. I thought the pass protection was excellent. Actually,
Speaker 3: I went back and watched it today. Of the five sacks,
Speaker 3: I thought four were on Vandergriff for simply holding onto
Speaker 3: the ball too long. And I think that's just something
Speaker 3: that's going to come with experience. But like Billy said,
Speaker 3: you're seeing those tough throws starting to be made now.
Speaker 3: You're starting to see his confidence to the point where
Speaker 3: he's going to throw that sixty yard deep ball and
Speaker 3: and you know, give his guy a shot in a
Speaker 3: one on one situation.
Speaker 1: Stoops say what the first option was?
Speaker 3: He didn't, He didn't know.
Speaker 1: It was probably something underneath the Dane in the middle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd have to.
Speaker 2: Go back to and it may have changed once they
Speaker 2: saw it was man man cover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just I think Dane was a double
Speaker 1: team day and you're gonna do that and leave Barrion Brown.
Speaker 3: That's fine, well because.
Speaker 1: They played a lot of man to man and os. Yeah.
Speaker 3: In fairness, though Barryon Brown's been held going into this game.
Speaker 3: He wasn't even at one hundred yards in the season Yeteah,
Speaker 3: barry On Brown, outside of jet sweeps, has been a
Speaker 3: non factor this year. And that absolutely and it was
Speaker 3: something brought up in the I think I think I'm
Speaker 3: the one that brought it up to Stoops after the game.
Speaker 3: I can't remember if someone beat me to it, but
Speaker 3: remember two drives before that, Barryon killed the drive with
Speaker 3: a sports from like conduct penalty and you're like, so
Speaker 3: much for that maturity.
Speaker 1: I thought he had killed the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean it put him in a third
Speaker 3: and twenty and it's like, oh, he just killed the drive,
Speaker 3: maybe killed the game because you're down four, And he
Speaker 3: came back and showed incredible resolve, and I think that
Speaker 3: was a theme in this game. Another guy who shoulder
Speaker 3: resolved was Jaq Hardaway, where he fell on a forty
Speaker 3: on it that ended up being a foty yard completion
Speaker 3: the tray Harris. Two plays later he poked the ball
Speaker 3: for you for a turnover in the high red zone.
Speaker 1: There were three plays where a Kentucky player either offense
Speaker 1: twice on defense, Nichols fell once got slipped on the
Speaker 1: field and it led to big games. And then I
Speaker 1: think on offense, somebody.
Speaker 3: Slip slipped going for that past the key.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just weird, that feel. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess he couldn't get couldn't get hold of it.
Speaker 1: But it was just one moment after I mean, go
Speaker 1: back to the very beginning opening kickoff.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Willie he set the tone. Willie Rodriguez
Speaker 3: set the tone of the game. I know, I know
Speaker 3: the it was the right call. The returner was down, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but that hit that he leveled on him, that was
Speaker 3: a tone center. That was like, hey, we're here for business.
Speaker 3: We're not here just to compete. We're here to win
Speaker 3: this thing.
Speaker 2: And it was sweet to do it against Lane Kiff
Speaker 2: and you know, always talking and sending birthday gifts to
Speaker 2: Kentucky kickers in the past. You know, it's just it's
Speaker 2: been heartbreak over these last few matchups with old Miss
Speaker 2: Dk Metcalf. You think of the missed extra point in overtime,
Speaker 2: you think of Will Levis, and you know the illegal formations.
Speaker 2: So it was you know, in those three games it
Speaker 2: was a combined less than ten points that Kentucky had
Speaker 2: lost by. So they were right there.
Speaker 1: Now it's ten ten or less up until then it
Speaker 1: was seven.
Speaker 2: There was seven something.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Dank Key mentioned that after the game though it
Speaker 3: was on their mind all day. They wanted to get
Speaker 3: paidback for two years ago. He mentioned, He said it
Speaker 3: was really.
Speaker 2: Important he caught the touchdown that guy taken away too,
Speaker 2: So I imagine it was sweet for him. And he's
Speaker 2: been great for two games in a row. He has
Speaker 2: been making money.
Speaker 3: And I keep going back to what he did over
Speaker 3: the offseason, which is put on weight. He put on
Speaker 3: really good weight. That told him with the strength.
Speaker 1: I mean, congratulation.
Speaker 3: That's a good one. But I was looking through the
Speaker 3: numbers today this time last year, four drops this year,
Speaker 3: zero drops for Dane for Dankey.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So well, And I don't know what it looked like
Speaker 1: to you, but downstairs it was clear Ole Miss was
Speaker 1: gonna hold or hack or whatever.
Speaker 3: Every play they missed two pi's against Dane earlier. Luckily
Speaker 3: they made up for him. But it was like it
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 1: In basketball where they, you know, coach a follom when
Speaker 1: every played, they can't call all of them.
Speaker 3: That was like that's what they were gonna do, and
Speaker 3: that was an issue. That was the one thing where
Speaker 3: you look at Ole Miss so sorry, all right, they
Speaker 3: haven't played anyone. Their stats are unbelievable. Where have they
Speaker 3: gone wrong? They were going into that game. They were
Speaker 3: number one thirty one in the countrys in penalties, so
Speaker 3: they were a team that was highly penalized, but they
Speaker 3: were playing crappy teams and they were able to get
Speaker 3: away from it. This game, you know, they made some
Speaker 3: self and self inflicted wounds and Kentucky made them pay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there should have been penalties for faking injuries.
Speaker 3: That yeah. Mac Jones the running back literally Nick nick
Speaker 3: Rousse next to me, He's like, did he just get
Speaker 3: sniped or something.
Speaker 2: It was like they got picked up nationally like they.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was on Sports Center yesterday.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't the only guy to do that either.
Speaker 2: Ole Miss had a few times on the on the.
Speaker 3: Bomb to Berry on Jared Ivy the defensive end who
Speaker 3: had the scripsack to beat Kentucky two years ago, went
Speaker 3: down with a cramp.
Speaker 1: Peter Burns called him out on a football final.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw he went in on them.
Speaker 1: It was so obvious, right it was.
Speaker 2: But normally it's like up tempo offense is causing you
Speaker 2: to be out of breath, and that's when you do it.
Speaker 2: But it was ole missed.
Speaker 1: I don't think they liked the play that they had
Speaker 1: called or something.
Speaker 2: Or they didn't have a player, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: like the lane's using it as a free time out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were. Kentucky's defense just completely wrecked what they
Speaker 3: wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Upfront without Harston too.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm in the corner. Yeah, look, it was something
Speaker 3: I think I think I said it here last Monday.
Speaker 3: It might have been on my podcast to do on
Speaker 3: Wednesday nights, but it was all right, this is the
Speaker 3: game we're gonna find out. Is this going to be
Speaker 3: another twenty nineteen situation where this ragtag cornerback room ends
Speaker 3: up being pretty good or is it going to be
Speaker 3: like last year? Or is like the depth isn't there?
Speaker 3: And I think we found out, especially because Max didn't
Speaker 3: play the depth is prickdy darn good.
Speaker 1: If ever there was a day that the d line
Speaker 1: needed to come through, oh they did because Maxwell Eerson
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Yes, so you know they had to protect
Speaker 1: the guys back there and they we're pretty young.
Speaker 2: And Deon's going to be a top ten pick in
Speaker 2: the NFL. But it was really I thought about like
Speaker 2: Ox and how well he played. Man, he was all
Speaker 2: over the place, and if you're going to get production
Speaker 2: from those guys, then I mean, is this defense top
Speaker 2: five in the country because you take turning that way,
Speaker 2: but the way you played Georgia and Ole Miss.
Speaker 3: Carolina, what has The defense didn't even play that bad
Speaker 3: against South Carolina. They had two terrible plays, but you
Speaker 3: look at do you know what South Carolina? As long
Speaker 3: as touchdown drive that game was what sixty yards? So
Speaker 3: when your offense is putting you in terrible spots and
Speaker 3: your punter can't punt like, it's going to kill you eventually.
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing on that sixty yard drive.
Speaker 3: One of those players one with the coverage breakdown, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because there were two of them. There were two in
Speaker 3: that game, the defense in that and they still I
Speaker 3: think they ended up with five sacks. They had two
Speaker 3: strip sacks they didn't fall on. They had a pick.
Speaker 3: Ty Bryant had a pick. Like even that game like
Speaker 3: it wasn't bad. The offense was pitiful and gave him
Speaker 3: no chance.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break, come back and talk
Speaker 1: more Kentucky football. Bottom of the ar Jetpikoro joins us
Speaker 1: right here on the state wide BBI border to border.
Speaker 1: It's a big Blue insider. Dick Gabriel, Aaron Gershwan, Billy Rutledge,
Speaker 1: Will Levis on the bench right now for the Titans
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins. Suffered an injury diving for a first
Speaker 1: down that it looked like he made and then was
Speaker 1: not given the first down. So it all went for
Speaker 1: Not where does this, Aaron put Kentucky right now? You
Speaker 1: lose a game you're supposed to win, You win a
Speaker 1: game you're not really supposed to win. Are they back
Speaker 1: on schedule?
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what it is. They're back on schedule.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people would have signed up
Speaker 3: for three and two when you looked at the schedule,
Speaker 3: not necessarily this order of it, but you got to
Speaker 3: three and two nonetheless, and now It sets up really
Speaker 3: nicely for this pivotal stretch that's coming up after the bye,
Speaker 3: where it's it's Vanderbilt, it's Florida and Auburn, and they're
Speaker 3: all Are they easy?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: But are they all winnable? Absolutely, especially given now that
Speaker 3: Auburn just doesn't look good at all, and offensively they
Speaker 3: talk about a team that killed themselves with turnovers. I mean,
Speaker 3: they've outgained opponents two weeks in a row this week
Speaker 3: by two hundred yards, and they still lost because of
Speaker 3: a pick six at the end. We know Florida's problems,
Speaker 3: and Vanderbilt comes to Lex and plays well every time,
Speaker 3: but they lost to Georgie State two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Well, Vanderbilt also beat Kentucky as a last time they
Speaker 2: played there.
Speaker 3: So every game between Vanderbilt and Kentucky since twenty sixteen
Speaker 3: has been a one score game. So I guarantee you
Speaker 3: they will come here and play well.
Speaker 1: I remember, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna say, for those reasons, I'm
Speaker 2: trying not to look forward.
Speaker 3: Well, they're the next game. So but if you look.
Speaker 2: Forward, I mean, you get one of those Texas or
Speaker 2: Tennessee games.
Speaker 1: Dig.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying thinking about play off
Speaker 2: fire off. I mean, it's not out of the realm
Speaker 2: of possibility, but there's let's let's take a lot to
Speaker 2: break right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Missouri probably has to lose a couple too.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. Somebody described and you could see this coming.
Speaker 1: Alabama Georgia. Great game. I'll admit I gave up on it.
Speaker 3: I almost almost did.
Speaker 1: I started channel surfing. I'm like, guy, they got this one.
Speaker 1: Uh the highlights. Technically, that game, which should have been
Speaker 1: you know for all of Marvels, almost means nothing, or
Speaker 1: it could end up not meaning anything.
Speaker 3: Could it could, But I think it'll end up being
Speaker 3: more for Alabama than it will for Georgia. I think
Speaker 3: Georgia will figure it stuff out and they'll be fine.
Speaker 3: I think it just shows for Alabama. It proves to
Speaker 3: the country like we're not going anywhere just because Nick
Speaker 3: Saban eight here, I mean Klen de Bor. If you
Speaker 3: look at their offense, it's almost a more fun of
Speaker 3: a watch with Kaylen what he's able to scheme up.
Speaker 3: And it just shows, you know, Bama was going to
Speaker 3: be bam when they're not going anywhere. And uh that
Speaker 3: that's I think again, they won, so that that's part
Speaker 3: of it, but just the fact they did it in
Speaker 3: that fashion for the most part. I mean they dominated
Speaker 3: for two quarters obviously, and then pulled away at the end.
Speaker 3: I just think it'll matter more for Bama.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Kirby Smart, he's got to be scratching his head.
Speaker 2: You know, he's what one and seven against one in
Speaker 2: Alabama one and six and you almost had one of
Speaker 2: the best comebacks of all time in the SEC. I mean,
Speaker 2: let's I don't think that's hyperbole. It was twenty eight
Speaker 2: to zero in this game, I believe so it was.
Speaker 2: I turned the channel channel off, but I did come
Speaker 2: back at some point to see the madness that ensued
Speaker 2: with that seventeen year old receiver Dick. I mean, that
Speaker 2: was one of the seventeen That was a crazy catch
Speaker 2: that he made. Not only that, but the movie, Oh.
Speaker 1: One of the best ever and I think pre dating
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart. Nine out of ten for Alabama, is that right?
Speaker 3: Was twenty twenty one National Championship games, the one Georgia one.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kirby Smart's lost twelve games of Georgia and six
Speaker 3: or to one team.
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 3: Twelve games.
Speaker 2: I had to think about that stat for wow.
Speaker 3: I was looking, you know who one of the teams
Speaker 3: are not named Alabama? Who the Vanderbilt Commodore is in
Speaker 3: twenty six? Eric Mason, Yeah, Eric Mason, Yeah, I saw
Speaker 3: the list of coaches. There was something I'll find it
Speaker 3: while we'll keep talking here, but there was like, it's
Speaker 3: unless your name is Nick Saban, you're basically cursed if
Speaker 3: you've beaten Kirby Smart. So hopefully can leave it.
Speaker 1: Well, it was just a fun day for football, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: It was? It really was. I mean, I thought Kentucky's
Speaker 2: Old Miss game would have been the best in the SEC,
Speaker 2: but nope, we had that.
Speaker 1: Now come off the front page.
Speaker 2: So is the regular season less valuable now that Georgia
Speaker 2: Alabama games aren't? That don't mean as much.
Speaker 1: As they do?
Speaker 3: And of course, yeah, and here's here's the list. By
Speaker 3: the way, Hugh Freeze, who got fired one year later
Speaker 3: at Ole Miss, Tom Herman at Texas he's now at
Speaker 3: FAU got fired two years after fact Books Jones got
Speaker 3: fired a year and after that fact that was the
Speaker 3: Hail Mary game. Josh Dobbs the uh.
Speaker 1: But Jones fired losing here yeah.
Speaker 3: Happened here. Yep, Gus Milezone at Auburn. Uh got fired
Speaker 3: a few years after the fact, Derek Mason and then
Speaker 3: Jim Mclawane got fired at Florida. He's not at Central Michigan.
Speaker 3: All those guys are the only guys not named Kurk,
Speaker 3: Nick Saban or Kaylin the board to beat kirkby.
Speaker 1: Smart at least they can say that for whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: It doesn't right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but good for Carson back because he was he
Speaker 2: was really bad in that game. And then he delivered
Speaker 2: and throw a lake pick in the end zone too.
Speaker 2: That was That was such a good game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great game.
Speaker 1: But like I said, in not Kentucky off the front page,
Speaker 1: off the lead story, I mean.
Speaker 3: They got the second they were still the second story
Speaker 3: that they'll take it. Yeah they were, I mean nationally Yeah,
Speaker 3: they were No. Number two national story of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: of the day. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Does this take Stoops off the hook for the Georgia again,
Speaker 1: not that I thought he was on the hook, but
Speaker 1: in the minds of oh should Billy rud or.
Speaker 2: However, don't me to answer that.
Speaker 1: That doesn't change my mind about the Georgia game.
Speaker 3: It still it doesn't change you'll never change your mind
Speaker 3: about the Georgia game.
Speaker 2: Well, he has come out and explained himself. I think
Speaker 2: twice the differences between why he didn't against Georgia and
Speaker 2: even why he did.
Speaker 3: Also, there's also you look at the defenses. Old Missus
Speaker 3: defense got exposed. Their line is good, their line's good,
Speaker 3: but their secondary is not.
Speaker 1: I always go by what was I thinking at the time,
Speaker 1: and at the time I was thinking he needs a
Speaker 1: punt here, and then in Oxford, I'm thinking, man, I
Speaker 1: think he's probably got to go for it. But when
Speaker 1: he threw that bomb, I'm like, what are you?
Speaker 2: Analytics are weird because I think you want to make
Speaker 2: a lot of your decisions based on statistics and numbers,
Speaker 2: but when it comes to some points of a football game,
Speaker 2: you've got to go with what can help you win
Speaker 2: the most, and I think in some instances that's going
Speaker 2: against analytics. We saw Versus.
Speaker 1: Quoted Stoops is saying, yeah, I have a friend of
Speaker 1: his has said, you gotta be you know, be smart, whatever.
Speaker 2: But you gotta have a good gut, the gut you know.
Speaker 1: Now, analytics are all well and good, but analytics, in
Speaker 1: my mind, they look backwards. They look at what has happened.
Speaker 1: They're not predictors. You know, they'll tell you what might
Speaker 1: be the percentage play, but it's based on what's happened
Speaker 1: in the past. They're not telling you what you know,
Speaker 1: what kind of defense O missus plant? Are your receivers
Speaker 1: having any luck against their defensive backs? How's your O
Speaker 1: line holding up? That kind of stuff? So there's a place.
Speaker 1: What I'm telling you is there's a place for both.
Speaker 1: I will drop a name. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: means anything, I know what will you? Brett Butler, former
Speaker 1: big league outfielder, was playing on our golf tournament and
Speaker 1: he was having a talk with the actor who played
Speaker 1: Jimmy Olsen and the old Superman movies. I can't remember
Speaker 1: his name. He's a great guy. And I was just
Speaker 1: standing there waiting to interview Butler, and they kind of
Speaker 1: brought me into the conversation. They were talking about analytics
Speaker 1: and basically you know, baseball and is there And I
Speaker 1: asked Brett Butler, I said, are you are you an
Speaker 1: analytics guy or you a moneyball kind of guy? And
Speaker 1: he said, why can't we have both? I said, man,
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a good point. You know, you
Speaker 1: just got to know when to lean one way and
Speaker 1: when to lean the other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy Bean, you talked about it right there, a
Speaker 2: little moneyball. Actually he got the A's to the playoffs
Speaker 2: and did it for a little bit. Yeah, but you
Speaker 2: know he never won the big one.
Speaker 1: No, but you know what, other teams began to do
Speaker 1: it with better players, and so the Red Sox they
Speaker 1: did it. Cubs did too. Mornicum take thirty e Wlap
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jeffikar is going to be joining us shortly,
Speaker 1: but he is putting together part of his sports cash
Speaker 1: right now at Channel thirty six regarding Pete Rose, so
Speaker 1: we'll give him a few extra minutes. I have to
Speaker 1: admit I was a huge Pete Rose thing growing up.
Speaker 1: I was a Reds fan, but more than anything, a
Speaker 1: Pete fan. I love the way he played. Tried to
Speaker 1: switch hit myself. Not as good as he was, of course,
Speaker 1: but I think he was. He he was probably by
Speaker 1: the time you started paying attention to baseball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, knew all about him. Obviously he was done, but yeah,
Speaker 3: read all about him. Knew all about every story. I've
Speaker 3: been to Cooper's Down several times growing up, so he
Speaker 3: wasn't there. But you know, you read a lot of
Speaker 3: different things, and there's still some of his member bilia there,
Speaker 3: just not in the Hall of Fame, not him himself in.
Speaker 2: The first time long time? Should Pete roseby in the
Speaker 2: Hall of fast time? The top three worst?
Speaker 1: One of the first things you said when we walked
Speaker 1: in here, Billy, was it you believe? And it kind
Speaker 1: of surprised me because generally people in your demographic believe
Speaker 1: he does belong, but you don't.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the Hall of Fame is a joke
Speaker 2: for Major League Baseball. Let's so let's start there. Barry Bonds,
Speaker 2: Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, all these guys should be in
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Should they cheated?
Speaker 2: Yes, there should be a steroids wing, a wing or
Speaker 2: a sign. You cannot tell the story of baseball without
Speaker 2: Barry Bonds. You can't do it with Pete Rose.
Speaker 1: I'd be wing so.
Speaker 2: But the way that the Hall of Fame is set
Speaker 2: up right now, No, Pete Rose should not be in
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. He broke the one golden rule
Speaker 2: of baseball that everybody knows about, that you can't gamble
Speaker 2: on the sport. He denied and lied about it for
Speaker 2: years and then admitted it in a memoir. Also, the
Speaker 2: reason he is banned from baseball is because he agreed
Speaker 2: to be banned from baseball.
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 1: I wonder about that, Doobe? And we'll never know because
Speaker 1: BARTI mightighty died. But I cannot believe that Pete Rose
Speaker 1: sat there and said, Okay, ban me for life. I'm
Speaker 1: good with that. I refuse to believe that that.
Speaker 2: What from what I was reading, the trade off was
Speaker 2: that nobody declared that he bet on baseball after that.
Speaker 2: It was so nobody would say that about him, tarnishing
Speaker 2: his legacy evenymore, he expected to be reinstated just a
Speaker 2: year later he was eligible to be stated, and then
Speaker 2: he never was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well then then there was that agreement. We'll look
Speaker 1: at it in the years. No, what do you think?
Speaker 3: It's tricky? It's really tricky. I'm I mean, I think
Speaker 3: you should be in there. I'm with Billy. You can't
Speaker 3: tell the story of baseball without Pete Rose. It means
Speaker 3: the all time hit leader four Pete Rose exhibit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you could, and I think I don't.
Speaker 1: Think he belongs. You've been there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He doesn't belong in that room.
Speaker 3: No, I'm with you. I think stimilar to the steroid
Speaker 3: guy and Owen Wing doing something because you have some
Speaker 3: of his membabilia there. They have a lot of the
Speaker 3: steroid era of memborabilia there.
Speaker 1: A notorious Wing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do something. I mean, look, there's a separate not
Speaker 3: comparing the two, just stating how the Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: is laid out. There's a whole women's in baseball exhibit
Speaker 3: in area. There's a whole you know, Nigro league exhibit
Speaker 3: like that's separate from the Wing in the hall. So
Speaker 3: you can do something like that there. There's just different
Speaker 3: avenues where those guys should be honored. And I get there. Yes,
Speaker 3: there should be an asterisk next to Barry Bonds's name
Speaker 3: he cheated, but you can't tell the story based.
Speaker 2: On Derek Jeter should have a little gift basket next
Speaker 2: to his name and his bus.
Speaker 3: That's fine all we have, mister, we do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably has a more insightful opinion than some
Speaker 2: of us.
Speaker 1: All right, mister p Uh, good to have you. I
Speaker 1: know your work a little extra on your your ped
Speaker 1: Rose story tonight. But as a guy who covered the Reds,
Speaker 1: on the network for so long. How much interaction did
Speaker 1: you have with p Rose.
Speaker 4: I had a ton of interaction with him, especially when
Speaker 4: he was the player manager and I was working over
Speaker 4: at Turfway Park. That's what brought me up to Cincinnati
Speaker 4: in the first place, was, you know, we were a
Speaker 4: horse racing show was based there out of out of
Speaker 4: uh turf Way, And that's where I really got to
Speaker 4: know him really well because he was really good friends
Speaker 4: with a friend of ours, and Mike Battaglia, and and
Speaker 4: then of course Doug Flynn and and then through the
Speaker 4: years of doing Red's Baseball, I you know, I got
Speaker 4: to see him all the time. I mean simply all
Speaker 4: the time. And I'll tell you what, there is no
Speaker 4: one that loved baseball more than Pete. And he said,
Speaker 4: you know, that's the biggest thing that he misses. It's
Speaker 4: not not being in the Hall of Fame. It's it's
Speaker 4: not being able to participate in baseball at the major
Speaker 4: league level. Because he's an encyclopedia on And if you
Speaker 4: talk to Doug, he'll tell you the exact same thing
Speaker 4: that he could teach you more about baseball than than
Speaker 4: than any any coach or manager out there. It's just amazing,
Speaker 4: and that was what I felt bad about for him.
Speaker 4: And I know a lot of people say you shouldn't
Speaker 4: feel bad for him, but I kind of disagree with
Speaker 4: what you guys said. And Aaron, there's more memorabilia of
Speaker 4: Pete Rose than any other player in the Major League
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. Uh, there's more of his stuff in
Speaker 4: there than any other player. And as Bob Costa said,
Speaker 4: someone had four thousand, two hundred and fifty six hits
Speaker 4: and unfortunately he's not in the Hall of Fame. I
Speaker 4: think much like Ron Santo, and I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4: I think Santo belonged in the Hall of Fame while
Speaker 4: he was still alive. A lot of times they do
Speaker 4: this stuff posthumously for people in this type of thing.
Speaker 4: I think shoeless Joe should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had over four hundred in the World Series
Speaker 4: and played flawlessly in the field, and yet you know
Speaker 4: he's a Yes, he got duped into it. Yeah, sure, But.
Speaker 1: Billy and I were talking. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: heard this, but about I just said, I've never believed
Speaker 1: Pete agreed to a lifetime band. Now maybe he was
Speaker 1: told a lifetime ban, will look at it again in
Speaker 1: a year, something like that. I just don't think he'd
Speaker 1: ever because of what you just said, Jeff. He loved
Speaker 1: it so much.
Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah. And here's what people don't realize has nothing
Speaker 4: to do with Major League Baseball. The Major League Baseball
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame is run by the Baseball Writers Association,
Speaker 4: not by Major League Baseball. That's why Pete was allowed
Speaker 4: to be part of the All Century Team. That's why
Speaker 4: Pete's jersey and why he's in the it was retired,
Speaker 4: and why he's in the Reds Hall of Fame because
Speaker 4: those are controlled by Major League Baseball. The Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame is is the Baseball Writers and you know it's
Speaker 4: it's very different. And that's I think that there's there's
Speaker 4: two different parts there. Now, do I believe that you
Speaker 4: should have an asterisk or something by it? Sure, but
Speaker 4: I think that he belongs in there for what he
Speaker 4: did for the game while he played.
Speaker 1: You be okay with a wing. We were just talking
Speaker 1: about a steroids wing or a nefarious wing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 4: Well, what about a murderers ring? I mean Ty Cobbs
Speaker 4: should be in that. Why by top of the Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame he killed somebody? No, I.
Speaker 3: Have an agreement. I've been times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know he's in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: No, it's a it's a it's a what's the word
Speaker 3: I'm looking for. It's very it's a conspiracy that has
Speaker 3: a lot behind it. There's a lot of evidence.
Speaker 4: And and here's here's my problem with the with the
Speaker 4: Baseball Hall of Fame, that there are people that are
Speaker 4: still voting for the Hall of Fame. And and the
Speaker 4: greatest example I can use is is is just a
Speaker 4: guy that was beloved by every Hank Aaron. He didn't
Speaker 4: go in unanimous, in unanimous Ken Griffy Jr. Who would never,
Speaker 4: not one person ever accused him of steroids. Uh, one
Speaker 4: of the all time greatest players was not a unanimous
Speaker 4: pick for the Hall of Fame. Because these guys feel well, uh,
Speaker 4: you know Ted Williams or Babe Ruth didn't go in. Uh,
Speaker 4: so I'm not going to vote for him. That that's
Speaker 4: that's stupid and that person to get their their their
Speaker 4: voting right now.
Speaker 1: Because somebody was stupid back in the day, it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Mean you should be stupid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, for Dave Parker not to be in
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame is ludicrous, you know, That's that's
Speaker 4: what bothers me about it. But I mean, look here,
Speaker 4: here's what I can tell you from knowing Pete. He
Speaker 4: loved baseball. He loved baseball more than life and he
Speaker 4: was that. He was the greatest competitor I've ever known,
Speaker 4: and I it was a pleasure being able to meet him.
Speaker 4: He was a regular person from the West Side of Cincinnati,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, he he he was brought up
Speaker 4: in hard scrabble West Side and his father was a
Speaker 4: bean counter for a company and would take him to
Speaker 4: River Downs as a child, and that's where he got
Speaker 4: the love of horse race and I think the love
Speaker 4: of gambling was from that, and unfortunately it never went away.
Speaker 2: And that's such a gray area nowadays, Jeff, you know,
Speaker 2: with the league sponsoring the the gambling sites that the
Speaker 2: players aren't allow. It's just unbelievable that we've gotten to
Speaker 2: that point. While you know, back in Pete Rose's day,
Speaker 2: he's been ostracized for something.
Speaker 1: Like this, you have, but no, he's only been ostracized
Speaker 1: for betting on baseball, not for gambling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as a manager, right right, yes, not as a
Speaker 4: player team right, well, but here, but here's the problem
Speaker 4: with that, Aaron, And this is why it's it's a problem.
Speaker 4: Pete bet only on his own team, okay. But when
Speaker 4: he didn't bet on his he knew not to Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he thought, okay, I can't win with Jeff Picoro pitching tonight. See,
Speaker 4: and so the book he's smart then would go bet
Speaker 4: the other team. And so so it's it's a it's
Speaker 4: a it's a it's a very gray area. But here's
Speaker 4: what I here's what I say. There is no evidence
Speaker 4: whatsoever that Pete bet while he was a player, right, Okay.
Speaker 4: He goes into the Hall of Fame as a player,
Speaker 4: not as a manager, not after he left baseball. Well,
Speaker 4: he was there as a player. That's that's you know, fine,
Speaker 4: show me that evidence and then I'll I can maybe
Speaker 4: change my mind.
Speaker 1: You got Doug coming on the news tonight.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, we did do an opening segment with Doug.
Speaker 4: And ye you know Doug, Doug has a special plate
Speaker 4: in his heart for Pete. Yeah, you know, because Pete's
Speaker 4: Pete's wife and Doug Flynn's wife were Philadelphia Eagle cheerleaders
Speaker 4: together and and introduced Doug the oga and they've been
Speaker 4: married for what's forties seven yearsle it is so yeah.
Speaker 1: And Pete broke the news to Doug the Doug was
Speaker 1: traded in a mess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Doug, that is one of the greatest stories of
Speaker 4: all times? Is it in the way that tells it is? Billy?
Speaker 4: If you had Aaron having heard this? Uh. Pete sitting
Speaker 4: on the bench and Doug comes in. He was actually
Speaker 4: playing in the game. And he comes out and looks
Speaker 4: at Pete and he sits down next to me and
Speaker 4: looked at him, said I've been traded, haven't I? And
Speaker 4: he said yep. Just because of the way Pete was
Speaker 4: looking at him. He goes, where am I going? He
Speaker 4: goes New York and he said, and he starts thinking
Speaker 4: through his mind, Okay, the Yankees have this guy in
Speaker 4: this gap and it all really ran and in nets
Speaker 4: have a which one? And he said the Mets And
Speaker 4: he goes who for and Doug's and Pete go seaver
Speaker 4: and Doug said straight up and Pete almost falls over
Speaker 4: and goes, no half. It's a great story to hear
Speaker 4: hear Doug telling.
Speaker 1: Well, give me your thoughts looking back on Saturday's football game.
Speaker 4: Jeff, you know, I think Brad White said it best. Finally,
Speaker 4: he said, for the first time since I've been in
Speaker 4: Kentucky and all these years, that feel goal misses, you know,
Speaker 4: and you win, you got to feel good for them.
Speaker 4: And uh, here's and I didn't know this either and
Speaker 4: heard that Stoops when it got to be fourth down,
Speaker 4: told Bush, look, we're going for it. Go. Uh yeah,
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna We're gonna make this and let's go.
Speaker 4: And when they came out with man and they blitzed,
Speaker 4: they blitzed two people, so they came with six and
Speaker 4: that was a deep pass, so you've got to give
Speaker 4: it up for the running back. And I don't know
Speaker 4: if it was Demi or will Cox, it was in
Speaker 4: the game at that time, but they picked up a blitzer.
Speaker 4: The interior line did a great job and Brock was
Speaker 4: able to throw an absolute perfect path to one on
Speaker 4: one coverage and Berryon you know, went up and got
Speaker 4: it and stayed in bounds again an extra what almost
Speaker 4: twenty yards and you know, the rest is history. But
Speaker 4: I just thought the defense was spectacular, and you know,
Speaker 4: Kentucky showed that they can throw the football. They threw
Speaker 4: for over two hundred and forty yards. I just think,
Speaker 4: And here's the thing too, guys, if you would, if
Speaker 4: you asked anybody before the season started, what would Kentucky's
Speaker 4: record be going into the bye week? Three and two? Right?
Speaker 4: And that's exactly where they are? Ye back on I yeah,
Speaker 4: all this doom, the gloom. I think you know you're
Speaker 4: back on track. Plus you got a top ten win
Speaker 4: under your belt.
Speaker 3: Absolutely through four weeks.
Speaker 2: We had a tough time evaluating Brock Vandergriff. What did
Speaker 2: you see from him in that Old Miss game and
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts about it moving forward?
Speaker 4: I saw a real toughness and grit. And here's the
Speaker 4: thing I see in him, Billy, is every game I
Speaker 4: see him get better. Because look, when he was at Georgia,
Speaker 4: it came down to the last week of practice for
Speaker 4: Kirby Smart to make the decision of who was going
Speaker 4: to be their quarterback. And you start to see what
Speaker 4: he saw in him and what George just saw in
Speaker 4: him because he hasn't played real football really in three
Speaker 4: years until now, because he's been running scout team and
Speaker 4: he's been running number two but he hadn't been in
Speaker 4: the fire. You know, he hadn't been in the games
Speaker 4: they's played a little bit. But you know, we see
Speaker 4: him now. He's learning more and more each game, and
Speaker 4: I see him taking huge strides in each of these games.
Speaker 4: And now he's got that big win under his bill.
Speaker 3: Jeff going to this game without Maxwell Harrison. Per the
Speaker 3: data I found today, Kentucky's cornerback, so this doesn't count
Speaker 3: the safeties and linebackers. They gave up eight catches for
Speaker 3: seventy seven yards and no touchdowns. What would you have
Speaker 3: said to that with this old mispassing sack and no
Speaker 3: Maxwell Harrison before the game, if I were to tell
Speaker 3: you they were going to be able to pull that off.
Speaker 4: I think the same thing I just said about Brock.
Speaker 4: I see that in the cornerbacks. I see j Q.
Speaker 4: Hardaway playing better, making a great hit, causing the fumble
Speaker 4: that Kentucky returned. I I you know, I see the
Speaker 4: guy stepping up. I see the young guys at Waller
Speaker 4: and them taking steps forward. Because you see, now why
Speaker 4: he was a four star is because he has the ability.
Speaker 4: He just he hadn't played enough. And now they're getting
Speaker 4: to play and they're thrown into these situations and and
Speaker 4: they're they're they're they're getting leaps and bounds better. And
Speaker 4: now you've got a whole week for for Maxwell to
Speaker 4: get even better. And then you've got you know, you've
Speaker 4: got three big games. And I think these next three
Speaker 4: games are gonna set the tone obviously for the rest
Speaker 4: of the year. I mean that's obvious, mister os. But
Speaker 4: you know, the yeah or win Now, I know Tennessee
Speaker 4: is gonna be awful tough, but or no Tennessee support. Right,
Speaker 4: all three of these games are winnable. Right, You've got
Speaker 4: Florida Vanderbilt and what Auburn? Right, that's correct, though it
Speaker 4: will be real interesting to see how this, how this
Speaker 4: turns out after three more uh three more weeks.
Speaker 3: Hey, you go to Knoxville six and two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, could possibly do that.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jeff, did Frank Cursey or Jerry Claiborne ever tell
Speaker 2: you to fake an injury so they could save the
Speaker 2: time out?
Speaker 4: No? No, As a matter of fact, I just I
Speaker 4: think that is it's just there's no there's there's no
Speaker 4: place in sports for that. There really isn't. It's like
Speaker 4: the flop and you know, the NBA. They're supposed to
Speaker 4: call it. It's gotten to be. It's it's almost silly,
Speaker 4: but you know the rules.
Speaker 1: Guy on TV said there's no foul in place for that.
Speaker 1: Maybe there needs to be.
Speaker 3: And you know what's so frustrating this, I've only really seen.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's happened other places, but Ole Miss is
Speaker 3: the only two place, the only place I've noticed it.
Speaker 3: Two years ago, Jeremy Flax went down. They're booing him. Yes,
Speaker 3: clearly he was actually hurt. This year, Steven Souls goes down.
Speaker 3: He barely came I don't know if he even came back.
Speaker 4: I don't think he came back.
Speaker 1: And by the way, and.
Speaker 3: They're booing him. Flax going down helped them win the game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and Souls goes down, they're booing him. And then there
Speaker 3: run back, running back, looks like he gets sniped and
Speaker 3: doesn't like nothing.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Dark, Yeah, but Dark turned around, looked at
Speaker 4: me thinking, and.
Speaker 1: He motioned the like, hey, they want you to go down,
Speaker 1: go down?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Speaking of Flax, what about the old line, Jeff, what
Speaker 1: did you see from the old line again?
Speaker 4: Uh, the same thing as I as I've said about
Speaker 4: the other two positions. This team is moving forward. This
Speaker 4: is what a team is supposed to. You get better
Speaker 4: week by week, your overcoming injuries. You know you at
Speaker 4: this point, look at the running back room. Same thing,
Speaker 4: Chip Trader, there's no Chip Tram probably not play the
Speaker 4: rest of the year. But wow, you've seen Wilcox. You
Speaker 4: see Willcox take a huge step forward, right Uh you
Speaker 4: see Demis is played, well, Patterson did. I didn't even
Speaker 4: think he got in the game Saturday.
Speaker 3: Didn't know, but said that about you. I think he
Speaker 3: had one snap.
Speaker 1: I think we'll see Tram at some point anyway. Uh, well, Jeffarro,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and we will be watching.
Speaker 4: Tonight, hie, gentlemen, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Jeppa Coral, UK Sports Network and ABC thirty six And
Speaker 1: we're back in just a minute here on the state
Speaker 1: wide BBI. Just a few minutes left. Will Levis still
Speaker 1: on the sidelines, I believe, correct, correct, Yeah, he's hurt, man,
Speaker 1: but he's he's out there.
Speaker 3: He is on the sideline. He's not like in the
Speaker 3: locker room, we're in the tent or orange street clothes. No,
Speaker 3: he's ready to go. So I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, we're about to find out if he's going to
Speaker 3: go in on the goal line.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, okay, it's tough when you're doing a radio show,
Speaker 1: but you're trying to keep up at a game on TV.
Speaker 1: So now, Aaron, tell me about the next step this
Speaker 1: football team needs to take. Obviously it's beat Vanderbilt. But
Speaker 1: what would you like to see?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to see them. I think you want
Speaker 3: to see the passing game take another step right where. Now,
Speaker 3: let's get rid of those sacks, and I think the
Speaker 3: offensive line was doing much better. I think again, I
Speaker 3: think a lot of that was on Vandergriff and it's
Speaker 3: you know, you settle in Weill. Levis had the same
Speaker 3: thing in twenty one. I think his biggest issue in
Speaker 3: twenty one was he held onto the ball too long
Speaker 3: and he either took a sack. But that old line,
Speaker 3: he didn't take as many sacks, but he ended up
Speaker 3: throwing picks because he just forced things instead of just
Speaker 3: throw it away and get it out quickly. So I
Speaker 3: think that's the next thing. I want to see some
Speaker 3: of those sacks and big loss plays because of that
Speaker 3: removed and re establishing the run. That kind of took
Speaker 3: a step back this week. You got a credit old
Speaker 3: missus front for that. But but those are the two
Speaker 3: big things for me. And then defensively, honestly, it's a
Speaker 3: just keep doing what you're doing and hopefully getting number
Speaker 3: one Max Harrison back healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping the game doesn't isn't decided by Mark
Speaker 2: Stoops's gut on a fourth down call late in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Right, I'd love for this.
Speaker 3: It's also a seven forty five kick, so let's not
Speaker 3: have drama midnight.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. I got things to do.
Speaker 1: I forgot to ask you. You never once I bet
Speaker 1: roade or rerode you lead before the game was over.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was the leading of like nine
Speaker 3: times that game. Well I thought, okay, yeah, no, I thought,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, I thought it. Once Ole
Speaker 3: miss had that touchdown on fourth and seven, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh this, we're gonna lose thirty to thirty to thirteen,
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be like, oh, we were hanging in
Speaker 3: there for three quarters so and then I was ready
Speaker 3: to write the victory lead. And then they hit the
Speaker 3: tight end who has had a catch all game on
Speaker 3: a forty two yard eave. It's just what up game?
Speaker 2: And we didn't even talk about basketball goals or fire
Speaker 2: extinguishers on the sideline.
Speaker 3: All this it's a sketch. I look, I love the
Speaker 3: environment they've created. It was a better environment honestly than
Speaker 3: it was down there two years ago. But yeah, the
Speaker 3: basketball hoop of the UK logo, that's unfortunate when you lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been doing it. Who's the kid though? Who
Speaker 1: was the kid? I wondered did they identify them on TV?
Speaker 3: What as a kid on somebody's shoulders, usually Lane's kid kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who it was, but they had
Speaker 2: the extent englisher on the side.
Speaker 3: Usually Lane's kid and his dog.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, but you know, they only got
Speaker 1: to do it once thanks to Jeff, Aaron and Billy.
Speaker 1: That's a good night from Lexington.