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<v Speaker 1>Hell every bud any to the facilities of the iHeartMedia

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<v Speaker 1>megaplexis is the big booing sider board of the border.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are the comments of Mark Stoops and here Cameron

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<v Speaker 1>Mills talking about Kentucky basketball. And now we'll hear from

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Gershawn of the Castballs. He was there in Oxford

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<v Speaker 1>watching the upset our own Billy Rutlison. A little bit

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<v Speaker 1>later on Je Pikoro, who also covered that game in

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<v Speaker 1>Oxford and for the longest time a member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Reds Network, we'll talk about the late Pete Rose. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all I had here on the statewide BBI border to

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<v Speaker 1>Borrier is the big blowin sider Dick Gabriel, Airin Gershawn,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Rutledge. Jeff Pikora will join us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>later on, formerly a longtime member of the Reds Network.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk a little bit about Pete Rose. But obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we got to talk about this game. You heard Mark Stoops,

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<v Speaker 1>a relaxed Mark Stoops and Billy here and here every

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<v Speaker 1>week producing the Mark Stoops Show. And I have to

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<v Speaker 1>admit that on the sidelines they take the lead late

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, wow, So now I you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the latter stages of gam UK games, from about the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the fourth quarter on, I start wondering about

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<v Speaker 1>player of the game. What will I ask? Just like Aaron,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're like, who do I request? Absolutely, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what am I going to ask? So now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking which which hero? Okay? Then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>they throw that what's it forty five fifty yard bomb

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<v Speaker 1>that should have been picked off, and the guy climbs the

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<v Speaker 1>ladder and makes you a nice catch, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, my shoulders dropped. I'm like, God, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that I have done this so many times. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>this one get away? You know, what are the bright spots? Stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? For years I've asked, and then and more stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The fumble. It wasn't because of the flag, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet and honestly, I when I'm watching the kid

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<v Speaker 1>line up the field goal and Tom Leech is given

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<v Speaker 1>his numbers, you know, he's over for one from fifty

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<v Speaker 1>yards out, He's he's the kid. Just really wasn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't kicked many field goals, no, no, and this wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>As the moment he kicked it, I stuck my hands

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<v Speaker 1>out like this. I'm been like, oh, it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>I was pushing it, but I'm like, no, that's way off,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then I turned to watch the celebration

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<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines. But what was it like for you

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<v Speaker 1>in here? Because as you produce these games, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear us during the commercials and you and I

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<v Speaker 1>talk in the postgame and things like that. But different

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<v Speaker 1>experience for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it is just because I'm locked in and

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<v Speaker 2>I digest the game in a much different way. I

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<v Speaker 2>hear what happens before I see it, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's weird to watch the play happen, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know the result. It's an instant replay.

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<v Speaker 1>The TV is how far behind it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a two plays Yeah, so it's.

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<v Speaker 1>In our booth. It was two and a half minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was That was strange. But this will go

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<v Speaker 2>down in history, There's no doubt. And as much flak

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<v Speaker 2>as Mark Stoops has been given, are not going forward

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<v Speaker 2>on fourth downs and situations this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Would I would?

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<v Speaker 2>And I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably had his most aggressive call in his coaching

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<v Speaker 2>career and it and it paid off, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>jovial tonight and as he should be, absolutely talked a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about that play and how that wasn't even

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<v Speaker 2>the first option for the play. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>a little surprising to hear. But my favorite part was

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<v Speaker 2>the part where he said he turned to Brad White

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<v Speaker 2>and said, Buddy, we were due, We were due for

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<v Speaker 2>one of these, for the kick to miss for a

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<v Speaker 2>huge upstead on the road, possibly the biggest road upset

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<v Speaker 2>against an SEC team of all time for Kentucky. It's

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<v Speaker 2>something that we'll remember and it'll be something that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after you played Georgia to a one point game the

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<v Speaker 2>week before, it's it's it's very impressive two weeks for

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky and in.

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<v Speaker 1>Halftime at a Georgia Alabama game, we'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to be thinking, well, maybe that Georgia game

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't that InCred maybe Georgia is just not that good.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the next puts thirty four points up in

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<v Speaker 3>a blink of an eye.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he said that about Brad and he told

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<v Speaker 1>that story to Tom after the game, excuse me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was like, after the kick, he mad,

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<v Speaker 1>we earn or you know, we deserve it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was before the kick. Yeah, he's told that to

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<v Speaker 3>us too. Yeah, post compressor, yep. Yeah. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>that fourth and seven o'clock. I just keep going back

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<v Speaker 3>to that. I thought up there in the press box.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, it's one or two things. Mark stoops

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<v Speaker 3>either lost track of downs and thinks it's third down,

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<v Speaker 3>or they're just trying to draw him off and get

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<v Speaker 3>it to fourth and manageable fourth and two, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>fourth and seven at your own twenty. I just that

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<v Speaker 3>was it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the clock was he had to is what shocked me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, everything about it was just Laane Kiffin said

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<v Speaker 3>it best. Mark steps broke character and did something he's

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<v Speaker 3>probably never done before in his life. And it caught

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<v Speaker 3>old miss off guard. It caught us everyone off guard.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, it worked. And then two plays later,

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<v Speaker 3>is that not the most Kentucky way to score a

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<v Speaker 3>touchdown to the You have you have to hold your

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<v Speaker 3>breath for the ball to get in the end zone

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<v Speaker 3>where Gavin Weinstat call up and Josh Cattis, thank god,

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<v Speaker 3>is right there to catch it for the game winning score.

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<v Speaker 3>Just just a wild, wild sequence there and that fourth

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<v Speaker 3>and seven call. I joked with him before with stoops

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<v Speaker 3>before he started the press conference, and I said, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not calling you conservative today. I thought that was yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, maybe I was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that play whimsit. Uh. I was as close

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<v Speaker 1>to that play as I am to that wall. So

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<v Speaker 1>I see the ball come loose, and it's amazing how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly your mind works, because that's that's the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that went through my mind was, oh my god, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to giving this away. Here we go again. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to ask somebody, you know. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody keeps saying you recovered it in the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not. No, he got it. He was at

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<v Speaker 1>the one year one. All he had to do was

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<v Speaker 1>fall down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know it was. It worked out, but gosh, like,

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<v Speaker 3>even even that made you hold your breath.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how unlucky Kentucky's been with fumbles this year. They

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<v Speaker 2>they were due to use the same expression. They were

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<v Speaker 2>due for it. But if they would have lost that fumble,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the talk would have been, why is Gavin

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<v Speaker 2>Wimsy in the game for Brock Vandergriff and the you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially after sum Ol Karenbig just broke off an eleven

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<v Speaker 3>yard run to play before Well, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The play was successful until the moment he lost the

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<v Speaker 1>fall the cadage and he took it to the goal line.

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<v Speaker 1>You know so. And I'm not saying that vander Riff

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have. But somebody asked Stoops about it on the

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<v Speaker 1>show tonight. Is there a package where Wimsic can throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball? And having seen him in public and private scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 1>is the answers yes, But you just hadn't done it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, but I think it would have

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<v Speaker 2>been such a talking point because that game, if it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't about Kentucky's defense, it was about Brock. Vandergrity thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was fantastic, Yes, and that throw to Barryon will

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<v Speaker 2>be the one that's remembered perfect. But his connection with

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<v Speaker 2>Dane Key in the first half was great. There were

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<v Speaker 2>some schemed up plays that just didn't work out. I

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<v Speaker 2>think one I think of is one to Dingle.

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<v Speaker 3>That was actual, Yeah, he was wide open, or the.

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<v Speaker 2>Throwback which Key threw it to Vandergriff, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he would have ran for a while if

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<v Speaker 2>he would have caught that.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tom Leach said they ran at in practice all.

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<v Speaker 2>Week, so they were waiting for them score.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, well you mean Kentucky. Yeah, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>they scored every time.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a hard play to execute in game. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I know it was there, It was there, It

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<v Speaker 3>was there. No, I mean Kentucky's oftense. I know they

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<v Speaker 3>only put twenty points on the board. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the run honestly was probably their worst game running the

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<v Speaker 3>ball all season outside of a couple of plays. But

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<v Speaker 3>the past game I thought it was its best of

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<v Speaker 3>the year. I thought the pass protection was excellent. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I went back and watched it today. Of the five sacks,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought four were on Vandergriff for simply holding onto

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<v Speaker 3>the ball too long. And I think that's just something

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to come with experience. But like Billy said,

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<v Speaker 3>you're seeing those tough throws starting to be made now.

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<v Speaker 3>You're starting to see his confidence to the point where

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to throw that sixty yard deep ball and

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, give his guy a shot in a

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<v Speaker 3>one on one situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Stoops say what the first option was?

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't, He didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably something underneath the Dane in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back to and it may have changed once they

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<v Speaker 2>saw it was man man cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were just I think Dane was a double

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<v Speaker 1>team day and you're gonna do that and leave Barrion Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine, well because.

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<v Speaker 1>They played a lot of man to man and os. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>In fairness, though Barryon Brown's been held going into this game.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't even at one hundred yards in the season Yeteah,

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<v Speaker 3>barry On Brown, outside of jet sweeps, has been a

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<v Speaker 3>non factor this year. And that absolutely and it was

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<v Speaker 3>something brought up in the I think I think I'm

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<v Speaker 3>the one that brought it up to Stoops after the game.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember if someone beat me to it, but

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<v Speaker 3>remember two drives before that, Barryon killed the drive with

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<v Speaker 3>a sports from like conduct penalty and you're like, so

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<v Speaker 3>much for that maturity.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he had killed the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly. I mean it put him in a third

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty and it's like, oh, he just killed the drive,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe killed the game because you're down four, And he

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<v Speaker 3>came back and showed incredible resolve, and I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was a theme in this game. Another guy who shoulder

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<v Speaker 3>resolved was Jaq Hardaway, where he fell on a forty

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<v Speaker 3>on it that ended up being a foty yard completion

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<v Speaker 3>the tray Harris. Two plays later he poked the ball

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<v Speaker 3>for you for a turnover in the high red zone.

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<v Speaker 1>There were three plays where a Kentucky player either offense

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<v Speaker 1>twice on defense, Nichols fell once got slipped on the

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<v Speaker 1>field and it led to big games. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>think on offense, somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Slip slipped going for that past the key.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just weird, that feel. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he couldn't get couldn't get hold of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was just one moment after I mean, go

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, Willie he set the tone. Willie Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 3>set the tone of the game. I know, I know

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<v Speaker 3>the it was the right call. The returner was down, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a tone center. That was like, hey, we're here for business.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not here just to compete. We're here to win

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<v Speaker 2>And it was sweet to do it against Lane Kiff

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, always talking and sending birthday gifts to

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky kickers in the past. You know, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>been heartbreak over these last few matchups with old Miss

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<v Speaker 2>Dk Metcalf. You think of the missed extra point in overtime,

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<v Speaker 2>you think of Will Levis, and you know the illegal formations.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was you know, in those three games it

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's ten ten or less up until then it

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<v Speaker 2>There was seven something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Dank Key mentioned that after the game though it

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<v Speaker 3>was on their mind all day. They wanted to get

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<v Speaker 3>paidback for two years ago. He mentioned, He said it

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<v Speaker 3>was really.

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<v Speaker 2>Important he caught the touchdown that guy taken away too,

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<v Speaker 2>So I imagine it was sweet for him. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>been great for two games in a row. He has

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<v Speaker 2>been making money.

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<v Speaker 3>And I keep going back to what he did over

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<v Speaker 3>the offseason, which is put on weight. He put on

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<v Speaker 3>really good weight. That told him with the strength.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, congratulation.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one. But I was looking through the

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<v Speaker 3>numbers today this time last year, four drops this year,

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<v Speaker 3>zero drops for Dane for Dankey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, And I don't know what it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>to you, but downstairs it was clear Ole Miss was

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<v Speaker 3>Every play they missed two pi's against Dane earlier. Luckily

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<v Speaker 3>they made up for him. But it was like it

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<v Speaker 1>In basketball where they, you know, coach a follom when

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<v Speaker 3>That was like that's what they were gonna do, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was an issue. That was the one thing where

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<v Speaker 3>you look at Ole Miss so sorry, all right, they

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<v Speaker 3>haven't played anyone. Their stats are unbelievable. Where have they

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<v Speaker 3>gone wrong? They were going into that game. They were

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<v Speaker 3>number one thirty one in the countrys in penalties, so

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<v Speaker 3>they were a team that was highly penalized, but they

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<v Speaker 3>were playing crappy teams and they were able to get

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<v Speaker 3>away from it. This game, you know, they made some

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<v Speaker 3>self and self inflicted wounds and Kentucky made them pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there should have been penalties for faking injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>That yeah. Mac Jones the running back literally Nick nick

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<v Speaker 3>Rousse next to me, He's like, did he just get

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<v Speaker 2>It was like they got picked up nationally like they.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was on Sports Center yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't the only guy to do that either.

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<v Speaker 2>Ole Miss had a few times on the on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Bomb to Berry on Jared Ivy the defensive end who

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<v Speaker 3>had the scripsack to beat Kentucky two years ago, went

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<v Speaker 3>down with a cramp.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Burns called him out on a football final.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I saw he went in on them.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so obvious, right it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But normally it's like up tempo offense is causing you

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<v Speaker 2>to be out of breath, and that's when you do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was ole missed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they liked the play that they had

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<v Speaker 2>Or they didn't have a player, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like the lane's using it as a free time out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they were. Kentucky's defense just completely wrecked what they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Upfront without Harston too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm in the corner. Yeah, look, it was something

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think I said it here last Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>It might have been on my podcast to do on

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday nights, but it was all right, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>game we're gonna find out. Is this going to be

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<v Speaker 3>another twenty nineteen situation where this ragtag cornerback room ends

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<v Speaker 3>up being pretty good or is it going to be

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<v Speaker 3>like last year? Or is like the depth isn't there?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think we found out, especially because Max didn't

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<v Speaker 3>play the depth is prickdy darn good.

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<v Speaker 1>If ever there was a day that the d line

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<v Speaker 1>needed to come through, oh they did because Maxwell Eerson

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. Yes, so you know they had to protect

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<v Speaker 1>the guys back there and they we're pretty young.

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<v Speaker 2>And Deon's going to be a top ten pick in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. But it was really I thought about like

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<v Speaker 2>Ox and how well he played. Man, he was all

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<v Speaker 2>over the place, and if you're going to get production

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<v Speaker 2>from those guys, then I mean, is this defense top

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<v Speaker 2>five in the country because you take turning that way,

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<v Speaker 2>but the way you played Georgia and Ole Miss.

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina, what has The defense didn't even play that bad

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<v Speaker 3>against South Carolina. They had two terrible plays, but you

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<v Speaker 3>look at do you know what South Carolina? As long

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<v Speaker 3>as touchdown drive that game was what sixty yards? So

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<v Speaker 3>when your offense is putting you in terrible spots and

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<v Speaker 3>your punter can't punt like, it's going to kill you eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm guessing on that sixty yard drive.

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<v Speaker 3>One of those players one with the coverage breakdown, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because there were two of them. There were two in

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<v Speaker 3>that game, the defense in that and they still I

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<v Speaker 3>think they ended up with five sacks. They had two

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<v Speaker 3>strip sacks they didn't fall on. They had a pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Ty Bryant had a pick. Like even that game like

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't bad. The offense was pitiful and gave him

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<v Speaker 3>no chance.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll take a break, come back and talk

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<v Speaker 1>more Kentucky football. Bottom of the ar Jetpikoro joins us

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<v Speaker 1>right here on the state wide BBI border to border.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big Blue insider. Dick Gabriel, Aaron Gershwan, Billy Rutledge,

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<v Speaker 1>Will Levis on the bench right now for the Titans

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<v Speaker 1>against the Dolphins. Suffered an injury diving for a first

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<v Speaker 1>down that it looked like he made and then was

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<v Speaker 1>not given the first down. So it all went for

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<v Speaker 1>Not where does this, Aaron put Kentucky right now? You

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<v Speaker 1>lose a game you're supposed to win, You win a

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<v Speaker 1>game you're not really supposed to win. Are they back

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<v Speaker 1>on schedule?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's exactly what it is. They're back on schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people would have signed up

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<v Speaker 3>for three and two when you looked at the schedule,

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily this order of it, but you got to

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<v Speaker 3>three and two nonetheless, and now It sets up really

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<v Speaker 3>nicely for this pivotal stretch that's coming up after the bye,

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<v Speaker 3>where it's it's Vanderbilt, it's Florida and Auburn, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>all Are they easy?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>But are they all winnable? Absolutely, especially given now that

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<v Speaker 3>Auburn just doesn't look good at all, and offensively they

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<v Speaker 3>talk about a team that killed themselves with turnovers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>they've outgained opponents two weeks in a row this week

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<v Speaker 3>by two hundred yards, and they still lost because of

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<v Speaker 3>a pick six at the end. We know Florida's problems,

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<v Speaker 3>and Vanderbilt comes to Lex and plays well every time,

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<v Speaker 3>but they lost to Georgie State two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Vanderbilt also beat Kentucky as a last time they

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<v Speaker 2>played there.

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<v Speaker 3>So every game between Vanderbilt and Kentucky since twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>has been a one score game. So I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 3>they will come here and play well.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was just gonna say, for those reasons, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying not to look forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're the next game. So but if you look.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward, I mean, you get one of those Texas or

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee games.

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<v Speaker 1>Dig.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I'm saying thinking about play off

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<v Speaker 2>fire off. I mean, it's not out of the realm

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<v Speaker 2>of possibility, but there's let's let's take a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>break right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Missouri probably has to lose a couple too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. Somebody described and you could see this coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama Georgia. Great game. I'll admit I gave up on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost almost did.

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<v Speaker 1>I started channel surfing. I'm like, guy, they got this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh the highlights. Technically, that game, which should have been

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<v Speaker 1>you know for all of Marvels, almost means nothing, or

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<v Speaker 1>it could end up not meaning anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Could it could, But I think it'll end up being

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<v Speaker 3>more for Alabama than it will for Georgia. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Georgia will figure it stuff out and they'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it just shows for Alabama. It proves to

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<v Speaker 3>the country like we're not going anywhere just because Nick

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<v Speaker 3>Saban eight here, I mean Klen de Bor. If you

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<v Speaker 3>look at their offense, it's almost a more fun of

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<v Speaker 3>a watch with Kaylen what he's able to scheme up.

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<v Speaker 3>And it just shows, you know, Bama was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be bam when they're not going anywhere. And uh that

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<v Speaker 3>that's I think again, they won, so that that's part

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<v Speaker 3>of it, but just the fact they did it in

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<v Speaker 3>that fashion for the most part. I mean they dominated

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<v Speaker 3>for two quarters obviously, and then pulled away at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it'll matter more for Bama.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, Kirby Smart, he's got to be scratching his head.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's what one and seven against one in

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama one and six and you almost had one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best comebacks of all time in the SEC. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>let's I don't think that's hyperbole. It was twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>to zero in this game, I believe so it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I turned the channel channel off, but I did come

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<v Speaker 2>back at some point to see the madness that ensued

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<v Speaker 2>with that seventeen year old receiver Dick. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the seventeen That was a crazy catch

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<v Speaker 2>that he made. Not only that, but the movie, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the best ever and I think pre dating

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<v Speaker 1>Kirby Smart. Nine out of ten for Alabama, is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Was twenty twenty one National Championship games, the one Georgia one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kirby Smart's lost twelve games of Georgia and six

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<v Speaker 3>or to one team.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 3>Twelve games.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to think about that stat for wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking, you know who one of the teams

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<v Speaker 3>are not named Alabama? Who the Vanderbilt Commodore is in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six? Eric Mason, Yeah, Eric Mason, Yeah, I saw

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<v Speaker 3>the list of coaches. There was something I'll find it

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<v Speaker 3>while we'll keep talking here, but there was like, it's

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<v Speaker 3>unless your name is Nick Saban, you're basically cursed if

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<v Speaker 3>you've beaten Kirby Smart. So hopefully can leave it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was just a fun day for football, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was? It really was. I mean, I thought Kentucky's

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<v Speaker 2>Old Miss game would have been the best in the SEC,

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<v Speaker 2>but nope, we had that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now come off the front page.

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<v Speaker 2>So is the regular season less valuable now that Georgia

427
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<v Speaker 2>Alabama games aren't? That don't mean as much.

428
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<v Speaker 1>As they do?

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<v Speaker 3>And of course, yeah, and here's here's the list. By

430
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<v Speaker 3>the way, Hugh Freeze, who got fired one year later

431
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<v Speaker 3>at Ole Miss, Tom Herman at Texas he's now at

432
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<v Speaker 3>FAU got fired two years after fact Books Jones got

433
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<v Speaker 3>fired a year and after that fact that was the

434
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<v Speaker 3>Hail Mary game. Josh Dobbs the uh.

435
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<v Speaker 1>But Jones fired losing here yeah.

436
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<v Speaker 3>Happened here. Yep, Gus Milezone at Auburn. Uh got fired

437
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<v Speaker 3>a few years after the fact, Derek Mason and then

438
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<v Speaker 3>Jim Mclawane got fired at Florida. He's not at Central Michigan.

439
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<v Speaker 3>All those guys are the only guys not named Kurk,

440
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<v Speaker 3>Nick Saban or Kaylin the board to beat kirkby.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart at least they can say that for whatever whatever.

442
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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't right.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but good for Carson back because he was he

444
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<v Speaker 2>was really bad in that game. And then he delivered

445
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<v Speaker 2>and throw a lake pick in the end zone too.

446
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<v Speaker 2>That was That was such a good game.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, great game.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, in not Kentucky off the front page,

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<v Speaker 1>off the lead story, I mean.

450
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<v Speaker 3>They got the second they were still the second story

451
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<v Speaker 3>that they'll take it. Yeah they were, I mean nationally Yeah,

452
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<v Speaker 3>they were No. Number two national story of the game. Yeah,

453
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<v Speaker 3>of the day. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Does this take Stoops off the hook for the Georgia again,

456
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<v Speaker 1>not that I thought he was on the hook, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the minds of oh should Billy rud or.

458
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<v Speaker 2>However, don't me to answer that.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't change my mind about the Georgia game.

460
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<v Speaker 3>It still it doesn't change you'll never change your mind

461
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<v Speaker 3>about the Georgia game.

462
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<v Speaker 2>Well, he has come out and explained himself. I think

463
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<v Speaker 2>twice the differences between why he didn't against Georgia and

464
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<v Speaker 2>even why he did.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, there's also you look at the defenses. Old Missus

466
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<v Speaker 3>defense got exposed. Their line is good, their line's good,

467
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<v Speaker 3>but their secondary is not.

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<v Speaker 1>I always go by what was I thinking at the time,

469
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<v Speaker 1>and at the time I was thinking he needs a

470
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<v Speaker 1>punt here, and then in Oxford, I'm thinking, man, I

471
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<v Speaker 1>think he's probably got to go for it. But when

472
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<v Speaker 1>he threw that bomb, I'm like, what are you?

473
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<v Speaker 2>Analytics are weird because I think you want to make

474
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of your decisions based on statistics and numbers,

475
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<v Speaker 2>but when it comes to some points of a football game,

476
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<v Speaker 2>you've got to go with what can help you win

477
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<v Speaker 2>the most, and I think in some instances that's going

478
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<v Speaker 2>against analytics. We saw Versus.

479
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<v Speaker 1>Quoted Stoops is saying, yeah, I have a friend of

480
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<v Speaker 1>his has said, you gotta be you know, be smart, whatever.

481
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<v Speaker 2>But you gotta have a good gut, the gut you know.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Now, analytics are all well and good, but analytics, in

483
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<v Speaker 1>my mind, they look backwards. They look at what has happened.

484
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<v Speaker 1>They're not predictors. You know, they'll tell you what might

485
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<v Speaker 1>be the percentage play, but it's based on what's happened

486
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<v Speaker 1>in the past. They're not telling you what you know,

487
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<v Speaker 1>what kind of defense O missus plant? Are your receivers

488
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<v Speaker 1>having any luck against their defensive backs? How's your O

489
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<v Speaker 1>line holding up? That kind of stuff? So there's a place.

490
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<v Speaker 1>What I'm telling you is there's a place for both.

491
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<v Speaker 1>I will drop a name. I don't know if this

492
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<v Speaker 1>means anything, I know what will you? Brett Butler, former

493
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<v Speaker 1>big league outfielder, was playing on our golf tournament and

494
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<v Speaker 1>he was having a talk with the actor who played

495
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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Olsen and the old Superman movies. I can't remember

496
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<v Speaker 1>his name. He's a great guy. And I was just

497
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<v Speaker 1>standing there waiting to interview Butler, and they kind of

498
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<v Speaker 1>brought me into the conversation. They were talking about analytics

499
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<v Speaker 1>and basically you know, baseball and is there And I

500
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<v Speaker 1>asked Brett Butler, I said, are you are you an

501
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<v Speaker 1>analytics guy or you a moneyball kind of guy? And

502
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<v Speaker 1>he said, why can't we have both? I said, man,

503
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<v Speaker 1>that's a hell of a good point. You know, you

504
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<v Speaker 1>just got to know when to lean one way and

505
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<v Speaker 1>when to lean the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Billy Bean, you talked about it right there, a

507
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<v Speaker 2>little moneyball. Actually he got the A's to the playoffs

508
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<v Speaker 2>and did it for a little bit. Yeah, but you

509
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<v Speaker 2>know he never won the big one.

510
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<v Speaker 1>No, but you know what, other teams began to do

511
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<v Speaker 1>it with better players, and so the Red Sox they

512
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<v Speaker 1>did it. Cubs did too. Mornicum take thirty e Wlap

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. Jeffikar is going to be joining us shortly,

514
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<v Speaker 1>but he is putting together part of his sports cash

515
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<v Speaker 1>right now at Channel thirty six regarding Pete Rose, so

516
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<v Speaker 1>we'll give him a few extra minutes. I have to

517
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<v Speaker 1>admit I was a huge Pete Rose thing growing up.

518
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<v Speaker 1>I was a Reds fan, but more than anything, a

519
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<v Speaker 1>Pete fan. I love the way he played. Tried to

520
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<v Speaker 1>switch hit myself. Not as good as he was, of course,

521
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<v Speaker 1>but I think he was. He he was probably by

522
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<v Speaker 1>the time you started paying attention to baseball.

523
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, knew all about him. Obviously he was done, but yeah,

524
00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:25.400
<v Speaker 3>read all about him. Knew all about every story. I've

525
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<v Speaker 3>been to Cooper's Down several times growing up, so he

526
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<v Speaker 3>wasn't there. But you know, you read a lot of

527
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<v Speaker 3>different things, and there's still some of his member bilia there,

528
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<v Speaker 3>just not in the Hall of Fame, not him himself in.

529
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<v Speaker 2>The first time long time? Should Pete roseby in the

530
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<v Speaker 2>Hall of fast time? The top three worst?

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<v Speaker 1>One of the first things you said when we walked

532
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<v Speaker 1>in here, Billy, was it you believe? And it kind

533
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<v Speaker 1>of surprised me because generally people in your demographic believe

534
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<v Speaker 1>he does belong, but you don't.

535
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the Hall of Fame is a joke

536
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<v Speaker 2>for Major League Baseball. Let's so let's start there. Barry Bonds,

537
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<v Speaker 2>Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, all these guys should be in

538
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<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame.

539
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<v Speaker 3>Should they cheated?

540
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there should be a steroids wing, a wing or

541
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<v Speaker 2>a sign. You cannot tell the story of baseball without

542
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<v Speaker 2>Barry Bonds. You can't do it with Pete Rose.

543
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<v Speaker 1>I'd be wing so.

544
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<v Speaker 2>But the way that the Hall of Fame is set

545
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<v Speaker 2>up right now, No, Pete Rose should not be in

546
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<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame. He broke the one golden rule

547
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:22.240
<v Speaker 2>of baseball that everybody knows about, that you can't gamble

548
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.240
<v Speaker 2>on the sport. He denied and lied about it for

549
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<v Speaker 2>years and then admitted it in a memoir. Also, the

550
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<v Speaker 2>reason he is banned from baseball is because he agreed

551
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<v Speaker 2>to be banned from baseball.

552
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<v Speaker 4>You know what?

553
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<v Speaker 1>I wonder about that, Doobe? And we'll never know because

554
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<v Speaker 1>BARTI mightighty died. But I cannot believe that Pete Rose

555
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<v Speaker 1>sat there and said, Okay, ban me for life. I'm

556
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<v Speaker 1>good with that. I refuse to believe that that.

557
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<v Speaker 2>What from what I was reading, the trade off was

558
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<v Speaker 2>that nobody declared that he bet on baseball after that.

559
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<v Speaker 2>It was so nobody would say that about him, tarnishing

560
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<v Speaker 2>his legacy evenymore, he expected to be reinstated just a

561
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<v Speaker 2>year later he was eligible to be stated, and then

562
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<v Speaker 2>he never was.

563
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well then then there was that agreement. We'll look

564
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<v Speaker 1>at it in the years. No, what do you think?

565
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<v Speaker 3>It's tricky? It's really tricky. I'm I mean, I think

566
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<v Speaker 3>you should be in there. I'm with Billy. You can't

567
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<v Speaker 3>tell the story of baseball without Pete Rose. It means

568
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<v Speaker 3>the all time hit leader four Pete Rose exhibit. Yeah,

569
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<v Speaker 3>you could, and I think I don't.

570
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<v Speaker 1>Think he belongs. You've been there, you know what I'm saying.

571
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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't belong in that room.

572
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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm with you. I think stimilar to the steroid

573
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<v Speaker 3>guy and Owen Wing doing something because you have some

574
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<v Speaker 3>of his membabilia there. They have a lot of the

575
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<v Speaker 3>steroid era of memborabilia there.

576
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<v Speaker 1>A notorious Wing.

577
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do something. I mean, look, there's a separate not

578
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<v Speaker 3>comparing the two, just stating how the Hall of Fame

579
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<v Speaker 3>is laid out. There's a whole women's in baseball exhibit

580
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<v Speaker 3>in area. There's a whole you know, Nigro league exhibit

581
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<v Speaker 3>like that's separate from the Wing in the hall. So

582
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<v Speaker 3>you can do something like that there. There's just different

583
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<v Speaker 3>avenues where those guys should be honored. And I get there. Yes,

584
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<v Speaker 3>there should be an asterisk next to Barry Bonds's name

585
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.400
<v Speaker 3>he cheated, but you can't tell the story based.

586
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<v Speaker 2>On Derek Jeter should have a little gift basket next

587
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<v Speaker 2>to his name and his bus.

588
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<v Speaker 3>That's fine all we have, mister, we do.

589
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he probably has a more insightful opinion than some

590
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<v Speaker 2>of us.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, mister p Uh, good to have you. I

592
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<v Speaker 1>know your work a little extra on your your ped

593
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<v Speaker 1>Rose story tonight. But as a guy who covered the Reds,

594
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<v Speaker 1>on the network for so long. How much interaction did

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<v Speaker 1>you have with p Rose.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a ton of interaction with him, especially when

597
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<v Speaker 4>he was the player manager and I was working over

598
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<v Speaker 4>at Turfway Park. That's what brought me up to Cincinnati

599
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<v Speaker 4>in the first place, was, you know, we were a

600
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<v Speaker 4>horse racing show was based there out of out of

601
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<v Speaker 4>uh turf Way, And that's where I really got to

602
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<v Speaker 4>know him really well because he was really good friends

603
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<v Speaker 4>with a friend of ours, and Mike Battaglia, and and

604
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:04.440
<v Speaker 4>then of course Doug Flynn and and then through the

605
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 4>years of doing Red's Baseball, I you know, I got

606
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<v Speaker 4>to see him all the time. I mean simply all

607
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<v Speaker 4>the time. And I'll tell you what, there is no

608
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<v Speaker 4>one that loved baseball more than Pete. And he said,

609
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<v Speaker 4>you know, that's the biggest thing that he misses. It's

610
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<v Speaker 4>not not being in the Hall of Fame. It's it's

611
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<v Speaker 4>not being able to participate in baseball at the major

612
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<v Speaker 4>league level. Because he's an encyclopedia on And if you

613
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<v Speaker 4>talk to Doug, he'll tell you the exact same thing

614
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<v Speaker 4>that he could teach you more about baseball than than

615
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 4>than any any coach or manager out there. It's just amazing,

616
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<v Speaker 4>and that was what I felt bad about for him.

617
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<v Speaker 4>And I know a lot of people say you shouldn't

618
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<v Speaker 4>feel bad for him, but I kind of disagree with

619
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<v Speaker 4>what you guys said. And Aaron, there's more memorabilia of

620
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<v Speaker 4>Pete Rose than any other player in the Major League

621
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<v Speaker 4>Hall of Fame. Uh, there's more of his stuff in

622
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<v Speaker 4>there than any other player. And as Bob Costa said,

623
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<v Speaker 4>someone had four thousand, two hundred and fifty six hits

624
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<v Speaker 4>and unfortunately he's not in the Hall of Fame. I

625
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.960
<v Speaker 4>think much like Ron Santo, and I'm not saying that.

626
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<v Speaker 4>I think Santo belonged in the Hall of Fame while

627
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<v Speaker 4>he was still alive. A lot of times they do

628
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<v Speaker 4>this stuff posthumously for people in this type of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think shoeless Joe should be in the Hall of Fame.

630
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I don't think.

631
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he had over four hundred in the World Series

632
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<v Speaker 4>and played flawlessly in the field, and yet you know

633
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<v Speaker 4>he's a Yes, he got duped into it. Yeah, sure, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Billy and I were talking. I don't know if you

635
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.039
<v Speaker 1>heard this, but about I just said, I've never believed

636
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Pete agreed to a lifetime band. Now maybe he was

637
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:50.519
<v Speaker 1>told a lifetime ban, will look at it again in

638
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a year, something like that. I just don't think he'd

639
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>ever because of what you just said, Jeff. He loved

640
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>it so much.

641
00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:01.160
<v Speaker 4>Yep. Yeah. And here's what people don't realize has nothing

642
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:04.880
<v Speaker 4>to do with Major League Baseball. The Major League Baseball

643
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.519
<v Speaker 4>Hall of Fame is run by the Baseball Writers Association,

644
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 4>not by Major League Baseball. That's why Pete was allowed

645
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.720
<v Speaker 4>to be part of the All Century Team. That's why

646
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:16.839
<v Speaker 4>Pete's jersey and why he's in the it was retired,

647
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.720
<v Speaker 4>and why he's in the Reds Hall of Fame because

648
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.200
<v Speaker 4>those are controlled by Major League Baseball. The Hall of

649
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Fame is is the Baseball Writers and you know it's

650
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.400
<v Speaker 4>it's very different. And that's I think that there's there's

651
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 4>two different parts there. Now, do I believe that you

652
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.640
<v Speaker 4>should have an asterisk or something by it? Sure, but

653
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.519
<v Speaker 4>I think that he belongs in there for what he

654
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 4>did for the game while he played.

655
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 1>You be okay with a wing. We were just talking

656
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>about a steroids wing or a nefarious wing, you know

657
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

658
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, what about a murderers ring? I mean Ty Cobbs

659
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 4>should be in that. Why by top of the Hall

660
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:56.160
<v Speaker 4>of Fame he killed somebody? No, I.

661
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Have an agreement. I've been times.

662
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:05.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know he's in the Hall of Fame.

663
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:12.799
<v Speaker 3>No, it's a it's a it's a what's the word

664
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for. It's very it's a conspiracy that has

665
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.440
<v Speaker 3>a lot behind it. There's a lot of evidence.

666
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:24.920
<v Speaker 4>And and here's here's my problem with the with the

667
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Baseball Hall of Fame, that there are people that are

668
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 4>still voting for the Hall of Fame. And and the

669
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:42.279
<v Speaker 4>greatest example I can use is is is just a

670
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.759
<v Speaker 4>guy that was beloved by every Hank Aaron. He didn't

671
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 4>go in unanimous, in unanimous Ken Griffy Jr. Who would never,

672
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.160
<v Speaker 4>not one person ever accused him of steroids. Uh, one

673
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 4>of the all time greatest players was not a unanimous

674
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:03.000
<v Speaker 4>pick for the Hall of Fame. Because these guys feel well, uh,

675
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.279
<v Speaker 4>you know Ted Williams or Babe Ruth didn't go in. Uh,

676
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 4>so I'm not going to vote for him. That that's

677
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 4>that's stupid and that person to get their their their

678
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 4>voting right now.

679
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Because somebody was stupid back in the day, it doesn't.

680
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Mean you should be stupid.

681
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, for Dave Parker not to be in

682
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.920
<v Speaker 4>the Hall of Fame is ludicrous, you know, That's that's

683
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 4>what bothers me about it. But I mean, look here,

684
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 4>here's what I can tell you from knowing Pete. He

685
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 4>loved baseball. He loved baseball more than life and he

686
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 4>was that. He was the greatest competitor I've ever known,

687
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 4>and I it was a pleasure being able to meet him.

688
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 4>He was a regular person from the West Side of Cincinnati,

689
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.200
<v Speaker 4>and uh, you know, he he he was brought up

690
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 4>in hard scrabble West Side and his father was a

691
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 4>bean counter for a company and would take him to

692
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 4>River Downs as a child, and that's where he got

693
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.160
<v Speaker 4>the love of horse race and I think the love

694
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 4>of gambling was from that, and unfortunately it never went away.

695
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 2>And that's such a gray area nowadays, Jeff, you know,

696
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 2>with the league sponsoring the the gambling sites that the

697
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>players aren't allow. It's just unbelievable that we've gotten to

698
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:20.720
<v Speaker 2>that point. While you know, back in Pete Rose's day,

699
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 2>he's been ostracized for something.

700
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Like this, you have, but no, he's only been ostracized

701
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:26.599
<v Speaker 1>for betting on baseball, not for gambling.

702
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, as a manager, right right, yes, not as a

703
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:36.440
<v Speaker 4>player team right, well, but here, but here's the problem

704
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 4>with that, Aaron, And this is why it's it's a problem.

705
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 4>Pete bet only on his own team, okay. But when

706
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 4>he didn't bet on his he knew not to Okay. Yeah,

707
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 4>he thought, okay, I can't win with Jeff Picoro pitching tonight. See,

708
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 4>and so the book he's smart then would go bet

709
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.160
<v Speaker 4>the other team. And so so it's it's a it's

710
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 4>a it's a it's a very gray area. But here's

711
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 4>what I here's what I say. There is no evidence

712
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.240
<v Speaker 4>whatsoever that Pete bet while he was a player, right, Okay.

713
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.240
<v Speaker 4>He goes into the Hall of Fame as a player,

714
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:15.160
<v Speaker 4>not as a manager, not after he left baseball. Well,

715
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:19.079
<v Speaker 4>he was there as a player. That's that's you know, fine,

716
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 4>show me that evidence and then I'll I can maybe

717
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:22.119
<v Speaker 4>change my mind.

718
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>You got Doug coming on the news tonight.

719
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:29.480
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, yeah, we did do an opening segment with Doug.

720
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 4>And ye you know Doug, Doug has a special plate

721
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.319
<v Speaker 4>in his heart for Pete. Yeah, you know, because Pete's

722
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 4>Pete's wife and Doug Flynn's wife were Philadelphia Eagle cheerleaders

723
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 4>together and and introduced Doug the oga and they've been

724
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:51.000
<v Speaker 4>married for what's forties seven yearsle it is so yeah.

725
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 1>And Pete broke the news to Doug the Doug was

726
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 1>traded in a mess.

727
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Doug, that is one of the greatest stories of

728
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 4>all times? Is it in the way that tells it is? Billy?

729
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.119
<v Speaker 4>If you had Aaron having heard this? Uh. Pete sitting

730
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 4>on the bench and Doug comes in. He was actually

731
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 4>playing in the game. And he comes out and looks

732
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:14.440
<v Speaker 4>at Pete and he sits down next to me and

733
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.159
<v Speaker 4>looked at him, said I've been traded, haven't I? And

734
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.519
<v Speaker 4>he said yep. Just because of the way Pete was

735
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.119
<v Speaker 4>looking at him. He goes, where am I going? He

736
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.239
<v Speaker 4>goes New York and he said, and he starts thinking

737
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 4>through his mind, Okay, the Yankees have this guy in

738
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.599
<v Speaker 4>this gap and it all really ran and in nets

739
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 4>have a which one? And he said the Mets And

740
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 4>he goes who for and Doug's and Pete go seaver

741
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:41.360
<v Speaker 4>and Doug said straight up and Pete almost falls over

742
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 4>and goes, no half. It's a great story to hear

743
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:48.000
<v Speaker 4>hear Doug telling.

744
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, give me your thoughts looking back on Saturday's football game.

745
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Jeff, you know, I think Brad White said it best. Finally,

746
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 4>he said, for the first time since I've been in

747
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky and all these years, that feel goal misses, you know,

748
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 4>and you win, you got to feel good for them.

749
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 4>And uh, here's and I didn't know this either and

750
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 4>heard that Stoops when it got to be fourth down,

751
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:21.320
<v Speaker 4>told Bush, look, we're going for it. Go. Uh yeah,

752
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 4>I think we're gonna We're gonna make this and let's go.

753
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 4>And when they came out with man and they blitzed,

754
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 4>they blitzed two people, so they came with six and

755
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 4>that was a deep pass, so you've got to give

756
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 4>it up for the running back. And I don't know

757
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:36.880
<v Speaker 4>if it was Demi or will Cox, it was in

758
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 4>the game at that time, but they picked up a blitzer.

759
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 4>The interior line did a great job and Brock was

760
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 4>able to throw an absolute perfect path to one on

761
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:48.840
<v Speaker 4>one coverage and Berryon you know, went up and got

762
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 4>it and stayed in bounds again an extra what almost

763
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 4>twenty yards and you know, the rest is history. But

764
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:00.119
<v Speaker 4>I just thought the defense was spectacular, and you know,

765
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.440
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky showed that they can throw the football. They threw

766
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:06.440
<v Speaker 4>for over two hundred and forty yards. I just think,

767
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 4>And here's the thing too, guys, if you would, if

768
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 4>you asked anybody before the season started, what would Kentucky's

769
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.760
<v Speaker 4>record be going into the bye week? Three and two? Right?

770
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 4>And that's exactly where they are? Ye back on I yeah,

771
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 4>all this doom, the gloom. I think you know you're

772
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:26.840
<v Speaker 4>back on track. Plus you got a top ten win

773
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:27.440
<v Speaker 4>under your belt.

774
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely through four weeks.

775
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 2>We had a tough time evaluating Brock Vandergriff. What did

776
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 2>you see from him in that Old Miss game and

777
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:35.679
<v Speaker 2>what are your thoughts about it moving forward?

778
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.119
<v Speaker 4>I saw a real toughness and grit. And here's the

779
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.000
<v Speaker 4>thing I see in him, Billy, is every game I

780
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:47.079
<v Speaker 4>see him get better. Because look, when he was at Georgia,

781
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 4>it came down to the last week of practice for

782
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:53.639
<v Speaker 4>Kirby Smart to make the decision of who was going

783
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.960
<v Speaker 4>to be their quarterback. And you start to see what

784
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.559
<v Speaker 4>he saw in him and what George just saw in

785
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 4>him because he hasn't played real football really in three

786
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 4>years until now, because he's been running scout team and

787
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:11.400
<v Speaker 4>he's been running number two but he hadn't been in

788
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 4>the fire. You know, he hadn't been in the games

789
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 4>they's played a little bit. But you know, we see

790
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.119
<v Speaker 4>him now. He's learning more and more each game, and

791
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 4>I see him taking huge strides in each of these games.

792
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.159
<v Speaker 4>And now he's got that big win under his bill.

793
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Jeff going to this game without Maxwell Harrison. Per the

794
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 3>data I found today, Kentucky's cornerback, so this doesn't count

795
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 3>the safeties and linebackers. They gave up eight catches for

796
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.599
<v Speaker 3>seventy seven yards and no touchdowns. What would you have

797
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:40.880
<v Speaker 3>said to that with this old mispassing sack and no

798
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Maxwell Harrison before the game, if I were to tell

799
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:44.239
<v Speaker 3>you they were going to be able to pull that off.

800
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 4>I think the same thing I just said about Brock.

801
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 4>I see that in the cornerbacks. I see j Q.

802
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.480
<v Speaker 4>Hardaway playing better, making a great hit, causing the fumble

803
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 4>that Kentucky returned. I I you know, I see the

804
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.360
<v Speaker 4>guy stepping up. I see the young guys at Waller

805
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.519
<v Speaker 4>and them taking steps forward. Because you see, now why

806
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Speaker 4>he was a four star is because he has the ability.

807
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 4>He just he hadn't played enough. And now they're getting

808
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 4>to play and they're thrown into these situations and and

809
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:22.280
<v Speaker 4>they're they're they're they're getting leaps and bounds better. And

810
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.559
<v Speaker 4>now you've got a whole week for for Maxwell to

811
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.199
<v Speaker 4>get even better. And then you've got you know, you've

812
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 4>got three big games. And I think these next three

813
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:33.480
<v Speaker 4>games are gonna set the tone obviously for the rest

814
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 4>of the year. I mean that's obvious, mister os. But

815
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, the yeah or win Now, I know Tennessee

816
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:46.159
<v Speaker 4>is gonna be awful tough, but or no Tennessee support. Right,

817
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 4>all three of these games are winnable. Right, You've got

818
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Florida Vanderbilt and what Auburn? Right, that's correct, though it

819
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.280
<v Speaker 4>will be real interesting to see how this, how this

820
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.320
<v Speaker 4>turns out after three more uh three more weeks.

821
00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Hey, you go to Knoxville six and two.

822
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, could possibly do that.

823
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Jeff, did Frank Cursey or Jerry Claiborne ever tell

824
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 2>you to fake an injury so they could save the

825
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:08.159
<v Speaker 2>time out?

826
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 4>No? No, As a matter of fact, I just I

827
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 4>think that is it's just there's no there's there's no

828
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.440
<v Speaker 4>place in sports for that. There really isn't. It's like

829
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.320
<v Speaker 4>the flop and you know, the NBA. They're supposed to

830
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.599
<v Speaker 4>call it. It's gotten to be. It's it's almost silly,

831
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:29.800
<v Speaker 4>but you know the rules.

832
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Guy on TV said there's no foul in place for that.

833
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there needs to be.

834
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.360
<v Speaker 3>And you know what's so frustrating this, I've only really seen.

835
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it's happened other places, but Ole Miss is

836
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 3>the only two place, the only place I've noticed it.

837
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 3>Two years ago, Jeremy Flax went down. They're booing him. Yes,

838
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.880
<v Speaker 3>clearly he was actually hurt. This year, Steven Souls goes down.

839
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:49.880
<v Speaker 3>He barely came I don't know if he even came back.

840
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:51.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he came back.

841
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, and.

842
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<v Speaker 3>They're booing him. Flax going down helped them win the game. Yeah,

843
00:39:57.639 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 3>and Souls goes down, they're booing him. And then there

844
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 3>run back, running back, looks like he gets sniped and

845
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<v Speaker 3>doesn't like nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of Dark, Yeah, but Dark turned around, looked at

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<v Speaker 4>me thinking, and.

848
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.760
<v Speaker 1>He motioned the like, hey, they want you to go down,

849
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<v Speaker 1>go down?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Flax, what about the old line, Jeff, what

852
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<v Speaker 1>did you see from the old line again?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, the same thing as I as I've said about

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<v Speaker 4>the other two positions. This team is moving forward. This

855
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<v Speaker 4>is what a team is supposed to. You get better

856
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:35.800
<v Speaker 4>week by week, your overcoming injuries. You know you at

857
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<v Speaker 4>this point, look at the running back room. Same thing,

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<v Speaker 4>Chip Trader, there's no Chip Tram probably not play the

859
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:44.440
<v Speaker 4>rest of the year. But wow, you've seen Wilcox. You

860
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 4>see Willcox take a huge step forward, right Uh you

861
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 4>see Demis is played, well, Patterson did. I didn't even

862
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:53.400
<v Speaker 4>think he got in the game Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't know, but said that about you. I think he

864
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<v Speaker 3>had one snap.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'll see Tram at some point anyway. Uh, well, Jeffarro,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, and we will be watching.

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<v Speaker 4>Tonight, hie, gentlemen, thank you so much.

868
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<v Speaker 1>Jeppa Coral, UK Sports Network and ABC thirty six And

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<v Speaker 1>we're back in just a minute here on the state

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<v Speaker 1>wide BBI. Just a few minutes left. Will Levis still

871
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<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines, I believe, correct, correct, Yeah, he's hurt, man,

872
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>but he's he's out there.

873
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<v Speaker 3>He is on the sideline. He's not like in the

874
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.159
<v Speaker 3>locker room, we're in the tent or orange street clothes. No,

875
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 3>he's ready to go. So I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're about to find out if he's going to

878
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 3>go in on the goal line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, okay, it's tough when you're doing a radio show,

880
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>but you're trying to keep up at a game on TV.

881
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>So now, Aaron, tell me about the next step this

882
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>football team needs to take. Obviously it's beat Vanderbilt. But

883
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>what would you like to see?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you want to see them. I think you want

885
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.320
<v Speaker 3>to see the passing game take another step right where. Now,

886
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 3>let's get rid of those sacks, and I think the

887
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:04.039
<v Speaker 3>offensive line was doing much better. I think again, I

888
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.320
<v Speaker 3>think a lot of that was on Vandergriff and it's

889
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<v Speaker 3>you know, you settle in Weill. Levis had the same

890
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 3>thing in twenty one. I think his biggest issue in

891
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 3>twenty one was he held onto the ball too long

892
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.000
<v Speaker 3>and he either took a sack. But that old line,

893
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:16.440
<v Speaker 3>he didn't take as many sacks, but he ended up

894
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.760
<v Speaker 3>throwing picks because he just forced things instead of just

895
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.320
<v Speaker 3>throw it away and get it out quickly. So I

896
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<v Speaker 3>think that's the next thing. I want to see some

897
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.760
<v Speaker 3>of those sacks and big loss plays because of that

898
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:29.199
<v Speaker 3>removed and re establishing the run. That kind of took

899
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:30.880
<v Speaker 3>a step back this week. You got a credit old

900
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<v Speaker 3>missus front for that. But but those are the two

901
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 3>big things for me. And then defensively, honestly, it's a

902
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<v Speaker 3>just keep doing what you're doing and hopefully getting number

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<v Speaker 3>one Max Harrison back healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm hoping the game doesn't isn't decided by Mark

905
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<v Speaker 2>Stoops's gut on a fourth down call late in the

906
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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter. Right, I'd love for this.

907
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<v Speaker 3>It's also a seven forty five kick, so let's not

908
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<v Speaker 3>have drama midnight.

909
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:55.400
<v Speaker 2>That's ridiculous. I got things to do.

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00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I forgot to ask you. You never once I bet

911
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 1>roade or rerode you lead before the game was over.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it was the leading of like nine

913
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:10.039
<v Speaker 3>times that game. Well I thought, okay, yeah, no, I thought,

914
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<v Speaker 3>to be honest with you, I thought it. Once Ole

915
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 3>miss had that touchdown on fourth and seven, I was like,

916
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:18.440
<v Speaker 3>oh this, we're gonna lose thirty to thirty to thirteen,

917
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:20.960
<v Speaker 3>and it's gonna be like, oh, we were hanging in

918
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 3>there for three quarters so and then I was ready

919
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 3>to write the victory lead. And then they hit the

920
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 3>tight end who has had a catch all game on

921
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.840
<v Speaker 3>a forty two yard eave. It's just what up game?

922
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<v Speaker 2>And we didn't even talk about basketball goals or fire

923
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:35.880
<v Speaker 2>extinguishers on the sideline.

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<v Speaker 3>All this it's a sketch. I look, I love the

925
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 3>environment they've created. It was a better environment honestly than

926
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:44.039
<v Speaker 3>it was down there two years ago. But yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>basketball hoop of the UK logo, that's unfortunate when you lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've been doing it. Who's the kid though? Who

929
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<v Speaker 1>was the kid? I wondered did they identify them on TV?

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<v Speaker 3>What as a kid on somebody's shoulders, usually Lane's kid kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know who it was, but they had

932
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<v Speaker 2>the extent englisher on the side.

933
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<v Speaker 3>Usually Lane's kid and his dog.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with that, but you know, they only got

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<v Speaker 1>to do it once thanks to Jeff, Aaron and Billy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good night from Lexington.
