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<v Speaker 1>Joined by Representative Gabe Evans. He is running in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth congressional district against Representative Yadiro Caraveo and he would

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<v Speaker 1>love to be your next member of Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>Gabe, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>First off, always great to be on with you, Mandy.

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<v Speaker 1>Gabe and I were just talking before he came on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tell candidates this all the time, that they

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<v Speaker 1>want to come on in like June July of an

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<v Speaker 1>election year. I go, no one's paying attention to you

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<v Speaker 1>until after Labor Day. So here we are after Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Day and the track meet to election day is on.

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<v Speaker 1>I want people to know a little bit about you, Gabe,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think your story, your backstory is just a

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<v Speaker 1>really really good one. So tell people who is Gabe Evans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean my story starts with my grandparents on

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<v Speaker 3>my dad's side, through naval officer on my mom's side.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually an immigrant to the United States from Mexico, earned

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<v Speaker 3>his citizenship with two purple hearts in World War Two,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you know, I was born and raised in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 3>spent twelve years in US Army, another ten years in

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<v Speaker 3>law enforcement, and then because of what's happened to public

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<v Speaker 3>safety in Colorado. I stepped away from law enforcement in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two, ran for and won my state House

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<v Speaker 3>seat down at the state Capitol of Denver. Been fighting

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<v Speaker 3>down there for two years to try to just restore

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<v Speaker 3>some common sense. We know we have a crime problem.

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<v Speaker 3>We know we have an affordability problem. The fact, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm married, My wife and I've been married for fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>We got two boys. The fact that Colorado is the

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<v Speaker 3>number two state in the nation for teenagers overdosing and

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<v Speaker 3>dying on fentanyl is abhorrent to me. That's why I

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<v Speaker 3>got involved in politics after twenty two years in the

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<v Speaker 3>military and law enforcement. That's why I'm running for Congress

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<v Speaker 3>now in the eth Congression district. We have got to

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<v Speaker 3>fix these problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk specifically about some of those issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with crime.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we the last hour of the show, I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this massive story out of Aurora, and depending

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<v Speaker 1>what news media outlet you listen to, there's either a

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<v Speaker 1>huge gang issue in Aurora or there's nothing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the coverage of this story has been really amaze

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<v Speaker 1>to me to see the broad nature of either dismissiveness

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<v Speaker 1>or panic that is on display, but it's a real

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<v Speaker 1>problem in Congress. What do you do to help with

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<v Speaker 1>the problems that we're having here in Colorado when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Again. So I was a cop in the Denver metro

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<v Speaker 3>area from twenty eleven to twenty twenty two, and what

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<v Speaker 3>we know is there's three big driving factors that are

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<v Speaker 3>going on here. Number One, we've got a wide open

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<v Speaker 3>southern border. We've got transnational criminal organizations and cartels that

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<v Speaker 3>are coming into the United States. But then problem number

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<v Speaker 3>two is what the progressive left has done here in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>They've literally defunded the police, they have voted for those policies.

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<v Speaker 3>They've lowered the penalties for drug dealing, for breaking into cars,

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<v Speaker 3>for everything that you can think of. And so that's

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<v Speaker 3>attracted these cartels, these transnational criminal organizations. Out of the

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<v Speaker 3>fifty states in the United States, they're going to go

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<v Speaker 3>to play like Colorado because the state, the progressive Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>and the state have handcuffed law enforcement. And then that

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<v Speaker 3>leads to the third issue that we have, which is

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<v Speaker 3>that cops in Colorado would love to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>enforce the law, but they can't because of the policies

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<v Speaker 3>that the folks down at the state Capitol and the

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<v Speaker 3>folks the progressive Dems in Congress have passed in Colorado

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<v Speaker 3>right now, it is illegal for a police officer to

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<v Speaker 3>pick up the phone and call Immigration and Customs and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we got somebody in our communities causing problems. Who's here illegally?

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<v Speaker 3>Come to port this individual. That phone call is illegal

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<v Speaker 3>to make. It became illegal in twenty nineteen, and my

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat opponent voted for that piece of legislation. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>to secure the border, we've got to empower our state

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<v Speaker 3>and local law enforcement, and we've got to get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of these defund the police, pro crime policies. But the

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<v Speaker 3>progressive left, to include my opponent, has championed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some in Congress have said, look, we're even

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe, and I don't want to put words

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<v Speaker 1>in her mouth, but I believe I've heard Lauren Voebert

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<v Speaker 1>support this notion, which is defunding sanctuary cities, defunding sanctuary states.

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<v Speaker 2>Would that be.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that you would support as a threat in order

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<v Speaker 1>to rescind these laws that you're talking about right now,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of force the hand of Colorado lawmakers because we've

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<v Speaker 1>just seen that when threatened with something like two ballot

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<v Speaker 1>initiatives on property taxes, they can be brought to heal

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit, right, Is that something you would support?

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<v Speaker 3>So I swore three oaths to uphold and defend the

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<v Speaker 3>United States Constitution, US Army, Colorado Army, and National Garden.

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<v Speaker 3>As an our battle police officer had deployed to combat

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<v Speaker 3>zone for the better part of a year to uphold

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<v Speaker 3>and defend the US Constitution, which barely clearly states that

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<v Speaker 3>the US Constitution and all federal laws made in accordance

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<v Speaker 3>thereof are the supreme law of the land. So yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>when you have states like Colorado that blatantly ignore what

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<v Speaker 3>the federal government is doing when they're trying to secure

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<v Speaker 3>Customs and the Border Patrol, and the State of Colorado

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<v Speaker 3>comes along and says, nah, we're not going to even

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<v Speaker 3>let our state and local law enforcement officers work with

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<v Speaker 3>their federal counterparts. That's a major problem and that's something

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<v Speaker 3>that we need to address at the congressional level as

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<v Speaker 3>part of the broader conversation about how do we secure

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<v Speaker 3>the border, how do we make sure folks like my grandfather,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, who earned his citizenship in World War Two

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<v Speaker 3>with two purple hearts, who wanted to be a part

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<v Speaker 3>of the American dream. How do we make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>we keep the bad folks out and that we continue

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<v Speaker 3>to be that shining city on a hill for those

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<v Speaker 3>folks who legally want to come here be a part

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<v Speaker 3>of the American dream. And how do we make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that those laws are being enforced and respected by states?

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado's not doing it. They're a blatant sanctuary state, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's a big part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's shift gears just a little bit and.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about cost of living.

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<v Speaker 1>Because cost of living has some national components to it,

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<v Speaker 1>it also has some local components to it intern of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, housing costs and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you see your role.

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<v Speaker 1>In Congress as how do you rein in the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living as a member of Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the first thing with the cost of living

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<v Speaker 3>is just understanding the broader impacts, you know, the things

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<v Speaker 3>that have an impact on our economy. I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this here in a minute, but we've brokened

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty historic agreement with the Libertarian Party here in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that they talk about a

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<v Speaker 3>lot is the fact that are literally our money supply, right,

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<v Speaker 3>This is when we talk about inflation. That's the money supply.

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<v Speaker 3>The money supply is controlled by things like the Federal Reserve,

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<v Speaker 3>and we don't have a good understanding at the congressional

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<v Speaker 3>level of how the Federal Reserve is doing some of

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<v Speaker 3>its internal business. We need to have policies like auditing

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<v Speaker 3>the Fed, but we also need to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>we're taking the handcuffs off of our economy. And so

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<v Speaker 3>that's things like here in the eighth Congressional District energy agriculture.

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<v Speaker 3>The eighth Congression District has the fourth highest energy producing

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<v Speaker 3>the southern part of the district is the commerce, the transportation,

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<v Speaker 3>across the rest of Colorado. It is a multi billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollar driver for the region. But as we all know,

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<v Speaker 3>when energy gets more expensive because of the laps of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and this isn't me, this is some of

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<v Speaker 3>the farmers in the region that I've talked to that

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<v Speaker 3>said that my Democrat opponent ass to the single most

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<v Speaker 3>damaging bill in a decade or Colorado agriculture. Guess what,

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<v Speaker 3>that drives up the cost of agriculture. All of these

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<v Speaker 3>costs are passed on to consumers. So to get the

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<v Speaker 3>cost of living under control, we also need to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that we're focused on things like taking the handcuffs,

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<v Speaker 3>the red tape, the bureaucracy off of our economy, producing

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<v Speaker 3>American energy, producing American agriculture, and then allowing our transportation

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<v Speaker 3>more efficient by cutting red tape, that drives costs down

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<v Speaker 3>for Americans. That empowers our economy. That's how we make

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado in the eighth Congressional district in an affordable place.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the things that I support. My opponent, as

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<v Speaker 3>we said, she's voted against all of those things. She's

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<v Speaker 3>a pro big government, pro red tape Democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one of the things that has not really

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<v Speaker 1>come to the United States yet. But I do worry

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<v Speaker 1>about on a consistent basis when it comes to agriculture.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen this attack in Europe on nitrogen based fertilizers.

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<v Speaker 1>which is so counterintuitive to when you have to feed people.

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<v Speaker 2>To tell farmers that.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't use the products that help food grow. How,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do you think about that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that's all part of the Green New

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<v Speaker 1>Deal as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, my opponent is one hundred percent bought into

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<v Speaker 3>the Green New Deal. She costs this district billions of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in the energy sector. Energy and agriculture go hand

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<v Speaker 3>in hand. When diesel goes up, agriculture becomes more expensive

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<v Speaker 3>and you pay more for that at the store. So

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<v Speaker 3>she's cost this district billions and energy. And exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>you described is what she's done to agriculture. When you

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<v Speaker 3>have government bureaucrats with no background in agriculture who are

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<v Speaker 3>then micromanaging how armors and ranchers literally the original stewards

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<v Speaker 3>of the environment, because if they don't take care of

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<v Speaker 3>their soil, if they don't take care of the environment.

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<v Speaker 3>If we don't have clean air and we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>clean water, guess what else. You can't grow your crops

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<v Speaker 3>as efficiently as if we did take care of the environment.

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<v Speaker 3>Farmers and ranchers are the original stewards of our land,

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<v Speaker 3>our water, our air. It's in there the best economic

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<v Speaker 3>interests to take good care of those things, and that

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<v Speaker 3>means we need to allow them the flexibility to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to make those decisions, to be able to leverage

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<v Speaker 3>emerging technologies, emerging trends. And when you have folks that,

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<v Speaker 3>as you said, are micromanaging what they can and can't do,

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<v Speaker 3>that has an incredibly negative impact not just on the

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<v Speaker 3>cost of producing these goods, but it has a negative

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<v Speaker 3>impact on the economy. Excuse me, It has a negative

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<v Speaker 3>impact on the economy, but it has a negative impact

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<v Speaker 3>on the environment as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So it sounds to me, Gabe, and you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can correct me if I'm wrong. You sound very sort

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<v Speaker 1>of data and results driven. And if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask you about ethanol subsidies, because ethanol

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<v Speaker 1>subsidies have distorted a marketplace under the guise of giving

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<v Speaker 1>us better energy efficiency, of energy efficiency and things of

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<v Speaker 1>that nature that have not proven to be to work

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<v Speaker 3>I like things that work. You know, when I was

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<v Speaker 3>on all of these, you know, alternate forms of energy.

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<v Speaker 3>If they work, let's do it absolutely. But if they

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<v Speaker 3>subsidize and subsidize them, then that's not actually producing energy efficiency,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not actually taking good care of our environment. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>give you a precise example. Here in Colorado, we often

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<v Speaker 3>The electric grid in Colorado produces about fifty percent more

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<v Speaker 3>you're in Colorado. Again, not my data, this is state data.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time we plug something into the electrical grid in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 3>of energy producers than if we just used natural gas.

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<v Speaker 3>These are the conversations that we need to have to

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<v Speaker 3>And when we do those things that actually work, we

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<v Speaker 3>right here in Colorado. My opponent's opposed to it, she's

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm speaking with Gabe Evans. He's running in the

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<v Speaker 1>we truly unleash our enemy, our energy economy, it also

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<v Speaker 1>cuts the knees out of some of our geopolitical foes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It cuts the knees out from under Russia, It cuts

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be perfectly honest.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the things that we don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>Who's their entire economy is their oil economy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, why don't we talk about that more?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we need to talk about it more. And the

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<v Speaker 3>big one that we've left out so far is China.

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<v Speaker 3>China is making more and more stuff with dirty coal

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<v Speaker 3>going to places like China that are producing it again

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<v Speaker 3>in an inhumane, environmentally catastrophic manner. And so we need

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<v Speaker 3>if we truly want to take care of the environments,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to make sure that we're bringing jobs, that

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<v Speaker 3>we're bringing production, that we're bringing energy back to the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, because here we produce it more efficiently than

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere else in the world. We produce it more humanely

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<v Speaker 3>than anywhere else in the world. And if we're truly

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<v Speaker 3>to do is make sure that we're not sending things

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<v Speaker 3>to China, where they produce it with five ten times

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<v Speaker 3>the amount of carbon that we could do it with

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<v Speaker 3>here in the United States. And the absolute worst part

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<v Speaker 3>about all of this is that pollution blows right back

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<v Speaker 3>here to Colorado. We've got satellites we can track where

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff goes. Again. State of Colorado data says that

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<v Speaker 3>seventy percent of the air pollution in Colorado doesn't actually

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<v Speaker 3>originate in Colorado. So when you have folks like my

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<v Speaker 3>opponent that have blatantly voted numerous times against the American

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<v Speaker 3>energy economy, they're not actually doing anything for the environment either.

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<v Speaker 3>They're costing us jobs. But we're still reaping all of

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<v Speaker 1>Your campaign gab just got a really good shot in

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<v Speaker 1>And endorsed to You tell me about how that all

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's what the American people want us to do.

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<v Speaker 3>The American people want good government. They want responsible adults

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<v Speaker 3>who can sit down, who can have a conversation, who

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<v Speaker 3>can find and collaborate on the common ground and then

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<v Speaker 3>actually move things forward. You know, that's what I tell everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I've buried entirely too many friends in military and law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 3>I've sworn three oaths up to and including my life.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know those things that I will never compromise

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<v Speaker 3>on because I literally put my life on the line

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<v Speaker 3>and I buried friends who made the ultimate sacrifice to

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<v Speaker 3>stand for those things. I know those things I'll never compromise.

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<v Speaker 3>Can collaborate with anybody, and that's what the Libertarian Party

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<v Speaker 3>and I did. We sat down. Of course, there was

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<v Speaker 3>the original pledge a couple of months ago. There were

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<v Speaker 3>some things that we couldn't agree on, but we sat down,

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<v Speaker 3>we have the conversation. We realized, look, we agree on

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<v Speaker 3>pledge two point zero that we could both agree on,

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<v Speaker 3>and that really does highlight those things that we care

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<v Speaker 3>about small, limited government, making sure that we respect individual liberty,

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<v Speaker 3>critical things like securing our borders, and so by sitting down,

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<v Speaker 3>by having that conversation once again, what we've shown is that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm willing to work with anybody that's focused

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<v Speaker 3>on these issues. The Libertarians were fantastic partners in promoting

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<v Speaker 3>and moving the ball floor, and so it truly is

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, we talked about the phrase bipartisan all

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<v Speaker 3>I've worked with the Libertarians, we've found that common ground.

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<v Speaker 3>But as a state legislator, you know, I'm in the

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<v Speaker 3>MIT super minority down at the state Capitol, nineteen Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>to forty six Democrats in the state House, and i

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<v Speaker 3>still got almost sixty percent on my bills pass because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm able to work across the aisle there. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>how do we make sure that we're passing on to

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<v Speaker 3>future generations the same American dream that my grandfather Mia

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think you have to use the language

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<v Speaker 1>of today. You're polypolitical, that's what you are. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>you engage with all political parties. There, Gabe, I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you one question from our text line,

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<v Speaker 2>A good answer for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Mandy, please ask Gabe what are we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>start seeing commercials from him?

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<v Speaker 2>Live in the eighth district and have not seen.

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<v Speaker 1>A single one, but I see one from his opponent

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<v Speaker 1>every five minutes, and I want to use that as

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<v Speaker 1>a springboard to ask you about the challenges going on

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<v Speaker 1>at the state party and how that has affected your

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<v Speaker 1>or not gotten from the state campaign. It just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of give me a minute on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So really two things there. Number One, Conservatives, we

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<v Speaker 3>are the fiscally responsible party. And so as you yourself

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<v Speaker 3>said kind of at the beginning, you know, after Labor

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<v Speaker 3>Day is when folks start tuning in, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to waste my money on a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>campaigns in advertising before Labor Day. So don't worry. The

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<v Speaker 3>so if anybody's listening to this wants to help you

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<v Speaker 3>keep me on the air again, we have enough to

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<v Speaker 3>get us on the air for quite a bit. But

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<v Speaker 3>if anybody wants to help keep us on the air

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<v Speaker 3>once we go on. Elect Gaveevans dot com is the

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<v Speaker 3>website elect g a v e e v a ns

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<v Speaker 3>dot com. You can go there learn more about me.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a donate button there, and that's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a really critical part of making sure that we get

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<v Speaker 3>our message out because folks are stick and tired of

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<v Speaker 3>the high prices, the high crime, the spentanyl crisis, the

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<v Speaker 1>On Gave Evans is my guest, and when we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the dumpster fire that is the state party right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I always say find the candidates you like and give

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<v Speaker 1>coffers so he can win the eighth congressional district. Gabe,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'll race is entirely winnable. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>forward to talking to you after the election, if not before,

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to congratulate you.

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<v Speaker 2>On your victory.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's do the assumed clothes on that one and.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, we'll be in touch again before the election.

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<v Speaker 3>Always great to be hon with you, Mandy. Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that is Gabe Evans, and I put a

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<v Speaker 1>like to donate, and trust me, guys, these candidates are

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with no support from the state Party as it

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<v Speaker 2>If you like what you're hearing,