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<v Speaker 1>Get ready for.

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<v Speaker 2>August twenty eight, twenty twenty five, allegedly, according to that

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<v Speaker 2>thing we call a calendar, this is Thursday. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the O'Kelly effect, and I am doing this live regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of whether people are listening or not. And apologies immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>My voice is not quite fully recovered from whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>itck was that I had there, some kind of cold flu,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I'm gonna shrudge through, and apologies

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<v Speaker 2>in advance for coughing and whatever else. Anyway, I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>grateful because I've been wanting to get Pierce Redmond back

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<v Speaker 2>on and I had him scheduled for a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, but that's when my internet was taken away,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, I had no internet. I had no

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<v Speaker 2>way to contact peers, and he showed up thinking we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing a live show and I couldn't respond. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was one of those people that I didn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess a number stored in a good spot. But whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not blaming anybody. I didn't have internet, couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 2>him I can't do the show. Would have been a

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<v Speaker 2>simple matter. But anyway, since then, I've been wanting to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get him back on and I told him

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<v Speaker 2>a sap. But he's got a life too, and why

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<v Speaker 2>do I want to talk to him? Well, the Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>thing and Porkin's Policy Review dot com. That is the

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<v Speaker 2>website still, isn't it, Piers?

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<v Speaker 1>That is still the website.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I just want to make sure not much, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Much happening, but yeah, it is. It is still the website.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but there's an archive, there isn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>There is an archive. Yeah, if you and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can search any of the keywords that Epstein Maxwell.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually searching it this this morning in preparation

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<v Speaker 1>for this, and I actually I actually saw that there

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<v Speaker 1>was stuff that I thought I had tagged that I

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<v Speaker 1>did it, and so there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look they have it, and anybody you know, independent

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<v Speaker 2>media wise who isn't blessed with a staff and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a box of gold being delivered to their facility like

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<v Speaker 2>some people you know, And that's a literal true story

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<v Speaker 2>about somebody in the alleged all media. But we're not

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<v Speaker 2>here to talk about them today, are we. The thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Epstein Maxwell, the circumstances, the currently kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fading from the news cycle. I mean, we got new

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<v Speaker 2>mass shootings, you know, Catholic School in Minneapolis, which oddly

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<v Speaker 2>I heard media people saying, you know, this is probably

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<v Speaker 2>a hate crime before they had a motive or even

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge allegedly of the shooter. H So you know that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't bode well because most things that come out of

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<v Speaker 2>the mouths of reporters during live action events like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do mean to say it as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something that is ongoing in real time, most of those

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<v Speaker 2>quotes come from what their interaction with police. So police

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<v Speaker 2>must have been saying this has to be a hate crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know what inspired that, not saying anybody's a crisis

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<v Speaker 2>actor or shaking anything, not at all. But isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating how the media begins to spend something before they

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<v Speaker 2>even have all the facts at all. I mean, even

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<v Speaker 2>if you're trying to be objective about it. Oh, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>back to our topic at hand. You know Epstein, what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on the Epstein files. We were going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the client list, all that contramaisy and what do we got?

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<v Speaker 2>Not much, not much that we didn't already have. And

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<v Speaker 2>also phase one is apparently, hey, here's all the crap

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<v Speaker 2>the researchers did. We were not necessarily all your friends anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>but some of them are magnation and they already had this.

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<v Speaker 2>But take a look at it like it's a brand new,

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<v Speaker 2>shiny object. It reminds me of the guy that in

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<v Speaker 2>real time turned around, took a quarter from me, shined

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<v Speaker 2>it up really good, put it back in front of me,

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<v Speaker 2>and tried to convince me that it was a different quarter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they do. In some circles. They might call

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<v Speaker 2>it polishing a turn. I'm gonna stop talking real soon, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>in case you're wondering, because I want to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>Pierce about how he's viewing the current changes and evolution

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<v Speaker 2>in the Epstein slash Maxwell saga, because don't forget, Maxwell

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<v Speaker 2>is a co conspirator. Although I got a little problem here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, was it just a conspiracy of Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>and Gilaine, just Laine whatever, however you say, you know, Maxwell,

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<v Speaker 2>Was it just a conspiracy between those two people or

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<v Speaker 2>whether others involved? Because I got this odd idea about

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<v Speaker 2>how nobody else has been prosecuted here. But anyway, put

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<v Speaker 2>that aside, let's think about the logic of the way

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<v Speaker 2>this is being sold and spun spind or spun must

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<v Speaker 2>be spun right, how it is being spun to people?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, really, if it's political spinning not a spinning top,

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<v Speaker 2>is it something that spinned past tense or it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that was spun. What do you think, pers I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're not an English major, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still spinning at the current right, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think they're still spinning this story. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like at the time we last

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it, I might be wrong, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>you were. You were a little bit more. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was more bullish in terms of this continuing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think you thought, oh, I don't know. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that in many ways they are. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>gone away, and they are continuing. They're having to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of continue to kind of reinterpret this and and spin

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<v Speaker 1>new I wouldn't really say they're like it's like new evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly people are beginning, I think, to U no

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<v Speaker 1>longer uh sit on stories. So we've seen that with

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<v Speaker 1>the Wall Street Journal, with the S. Birtday Book. We've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it with the New York Times and these the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these articles that they had about with photos

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<v Speaker 1>showing surveillance cameras in Epstein's brown house in Manhattan, and

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<v Speaker 1>also other things that I don't know if you that

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this. Uh earlier today, I was reading and

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<v Speaker 1>Reason magazine of of of all places, and published some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff I guess leaked emails from Ahood Barack, which there

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing in that that was all that like earth

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<v Speaker 1>shattering or or big, but it was kind of further

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<v Speaker 1>confirmation of a lot of things that we knew visa

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<v Speaker 1>visair relationship Epstein and A. H. Barock, this company Carbine

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<v Speaker 1>that they were both involved in that sort of changed names.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There were also I guess, you know email exchange is

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<v Speaker 1>between them talking about Peter Teele and others. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's there's a lot more eyeballs on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are more certainly in the I guess what

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<v Speaker 1>Trump would deem as a liberal leftist media like CNN

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<v Speaker 1>and MSNBC and outlets like that, they are covering it

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<v Speaker 1>every day, and I think that even places like Fox

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<v Speaker 1>News and Newsmax are kind of being forced to either

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<v Speaker 1>dismiss it or or change tuned completely. And somehow the

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<v Speaker 1>the story is evolving to a place where Maxwell is

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<v Speaker 1>actually the victim. And you're seeing a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>right wing Trump kind of cult members that are certainly

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<v Speaker 1>following the orders of the Guru and are completely parroting

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<v Speaker 1>that idea that Maxwell is some sort of victim, that

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<v Speaker 1>she's very courageous for speaking with Todd Blanche and so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I mean, it's it's a I I

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<v Speaker 1>still I still think I'm not sure that this will

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<v Speaker 1>be his complete undoing. I think that that is probably

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that this one thing is I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's enough, but it is certainly he's unraveling, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see that more with I mean, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like every you know, with each passing news report about this,

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<v Speaker 1>or just each each time that a reporter is bringing

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<v Speaker 1>this up, he's gonna declare martial law in another state.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, He's threatened New York. He's he's gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to other places as well. He's obviously trying to take

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<v Speaker 1>over Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>D C.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, that's uh, it's it's it's fascinating that

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<v Speaker 1>for Trump, the way to distract people is not bringing

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<v Speaker 1>not fighting a war overseas, it's just bringing that war home,

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<v Speaker 1>declaring martial law in Washington, d c. Or threatening to

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<v Speaker 1>do it in other states, as opposed to just say bombing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a pharmacy in Sudan, right famously Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 2>I have one question for you about this, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is that have you taken note of any shift or

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<v Speaker 2>pivot from the people that are far right of Gutfeld

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<v Speaker 2>in the podcasting and media world who do make their

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<v Speaker 2>money off of you know, hey, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>all in on Trump, And by the way, by this

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<v Speaker 2>particular powder and I have my own energy drink, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I also have gun products, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't object to anybody hawking whatever people are willing

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<v Speaker 2>to buy. But when they tell you your literal freedom

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<v Speaker 2>depends on you know, your energy drink, it gets a

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<v Speaker 2>little weird for me. But anyway, have you taken note

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<v Speaker 2>of any of those guys and the strange pivot that's

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<v Speaker 2>gone on recently, because to me, I'm seeing that yes, indeed,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not something that could instantly quash in the

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<v Speaker 2>news cycle, but it is being incrementally changed. And quick

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<v Speaker 2>note on CNN, just real fast, I don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people have argued with me over the years You're ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>They're left bringers there after Trump. See, they don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>the dynamic here the major shareholders. If you take a

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<v Speaker 2>look at the people that actually own and control CNN, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>not kidding CNN directly, but also you take a look

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<v Speaker 2>at the different corporate individuals and entities that are involved

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<v Speaker 2>in that media company, and you examine who it is

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<v Speaker 2>they gave money to in the last election cycle and

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<v Speaker 2>the last time that Trump was also victorious, You'll notice

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<v Speaker 2>that CNN is one of his best campaign contributor contributors,

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<v Speaker 2>not just on regular paper but through their shell companies,

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<v Speaker 2>through the packs. You know, it's sort of like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Kochs are supporting these left bring organizations

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<v Speaker 2>times because they have different views, and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>they're supporting badly standing left wing organizations, so that the

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<v Speaker 2>right wing organizations are supporting what you can afford to do.

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<v Speaker 2>If you make a couple of million dollars an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can support a poorly designed adversary and

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<v Speaker 2>a well designed enemy and allow them to fight in

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<v Speaker 2>public to make a point. Oh wait, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the formula for the WWE, and that's what you do Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so CNN is literally living off of the content they

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<v Speaker 2>make out of Trump, however you want to view it.

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<v Speaker 2>And eventually they do apologize back off, and they're being

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<v Speaker 2>inundated with plenty of mag of people now who are

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<v Speaker 2>making the other argument. And you know, they pay Abby

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<v Speaker 2>Phillips to sit there and go, well, that doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>any sense. They do that now instead of Don Lemon

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<v Speaker 2>going this doesn't make any sense. And now in the

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<v Speaker 2>next hour we're going to play how racist is it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Don Lemon is out there trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>a thing and he's surviving as a blessed podcaster as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But on the left, nobody's paying attention. There's an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>guy named uh oh god, what is He's got an

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<v Speaker 2>odd name. He's an Arab guy who is on the left.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm talking about, I'm not sure. On CNN,

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<v Speaker 2>no no, no, in the podcast sphere, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>they were accusing him of taking money from Qatar for

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, and then you know they found out

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't true. And you know, he recently did a

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. You know, is your thing? No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>is have you observed that the right wing media sphere

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<v Speaker 2>that still exist on you know, terrestrial radio, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mostly brought to you by Fox News, but there's still

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<v Speaker 2>some indies trying to creep in and become the next uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Bondi, or or become the next you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the hell he's allegedly doing and was outraged about,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, the next cash Betel without money, Uh

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, there's a sphere that goes from the very

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<v Speaker 2>obvious in the corporate to the fringe, and they are

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<v Speaker 2>all effectively uh you know, living on the Trump side

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<v Speaker 2>you know, discussions, were their ideas about the Constitution in

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<v Speaker 2>air quotes, uh, et cetera. It's okay, constitution is something

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<v Speaker 2>we can beat everybody over the ad with until our

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<v Speaker 2>guys who are out there like Trump's a hero right now,

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<v Speaker 2>everything's going good. I mean, they're literally locked into a greater,

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<v Speaker 2>more intense propaganda machine than Fox News ever was. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you taken any observations as to their pivot lately.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I've definitely. I mean I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>like the obviously, like the big one that I think

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<v Speaker 1>even people who are completely removed from this would know

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<v Speaker 1>from Trump is Messiah to what's going on here? He's

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<v Speaker 1>covering everything up and and I think that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're unsure of what they're supposed to be doing. I

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<v Speaker 1>So you're you know, you see him suddenly saying release

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<v Speaker 1>the files. And then the next day is I trust

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<v Speaker 1>the government. I love the government. They know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell as a hero, we should applaud her. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of like part for the course. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's like, of course you would be so spineless

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<v Speaker 1>as to defend a pedophile and certainly, you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>abuse and in trafficking people. That doesn't shock me. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other people, though, on the right wing, it

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<v Speaker 2>This was on.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Piers Morgan has a TV show. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>But there were even you know, even Jack Paso bit

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<v Speaker 1>who Human Events now, and you know, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>answer to all of these things is actually covering it up.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the further question is like why are they

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<v Speaker 1>how people are able to kind of dismiss it. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I've seen you know, I mean, obviously people like

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<v Speaker 1>will support of what they want support. And he seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be kind of just almost like a this whole

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<v Speaker 1>movement on steroids. She probably is on also, but he

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that he was, you know, he was saying

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<v Speaker 1>that that people from Trump's office were calling him telling

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<v Speaker 1>him to stop doing this. He's defended Trump and I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen something he's gone after him. This is really Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, double secret three D chess deep state ploy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So yeah, I don't know it. It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I think though, that the thing that is interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>me is that there are enough people within his movement

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<v Speaker 1>and and also just people are you know, right wingers

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the people in Congress that are certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, they're not I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>would say on ninety nine percent of the things they

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<v Speaker 1>There's enough of a I don't know, political will to

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that they're fully aware of what they

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<v Speaker 1>are pursuing. I think that many of these people think

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<v Speaker 1>they can. It's funny, I find the more and more

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<v Speaker 1>I look at this and you see all these people

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<v Speaker 1>like you see Trump and Bondye and the response they've had.

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<v Speaker 1>They always seem to think they can handle this. They

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're gonna do. And you see that too

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of these like right wing radio hosts.

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<v Speaker 1>They think, no, no, I can spin this, I can

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<v Speaker 1>spin this. This is good for us, don't worry. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think what what is happening more and more is

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<v Speaker 1>that the people listening to these people are just even

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<v Speaker 1>more incensed. And and you see that like with like

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<v Speaker 1>the like the timeline of events that uh has transpired

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<v Speaker 1>initially sort of renegged on their promise to release the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein files. Then you know, a few days later, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is complaining to his bass. Then the Wall Street Journals

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<v Speaker 1>book story, and Bondie fires Maureen Comy. Then the Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal, you know, publishes the story. Then suddenly Blanche

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna meet with Maxwell, and you know, then they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're meeting with Maxwell, and then you know, initially Maxwell claims, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about this, you know, recruiting from

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<v Speaker 1>mar Alago. And then you know, a day later, Maxwell says, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, actually maybe maybe we did recruit someone

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<v Speaker 1>from mar Alago. And there she's obviously talking about ju free,

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<v Speaker 1>but did her name? And then a few days later

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<v Speaker 1>from our a Lago. He you know, she worked there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know Epstein, you know, hand picked her

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<v Speaker 1>and moved her over there. And then suddenly Maxwell's moved

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<v Speaker 1>to a new prison location. Then you've got the new

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<v Speaker 1>York Times Brownstone story where they published photos where you

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<v Speaker 1>can see the surveillance equipment, and then they released the

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell transcripts, which you know, I was I have not

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<v Speaker 1>listened to all six hours of it, but just jumping

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<v Speaker 1>around listening to clips that, you know, the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like newsworthy ones that all the kind of main media had,

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<v Speaker 1>and then plus I would just sort of I would

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of jump around between the six hours and

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of pick a spot, and it's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a complete It is just six hours of Maxwell basically

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<v Speaker 1>saying she is the victim. Everything is everyone was against her,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing bad really happened. Everything is fake, you know, according

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<v Speaker 1>to her. I mean, it's like right out of Trump's playbook.

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<v Speaker 1>But and we could we should get to that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But I just find this story it just

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<v Speaker 1>keeps unraveling, and they keep thinking that, oh, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>we do this, then everyone will kind of move on,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't work. So I I think that with

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<v Speaker 1>the I think that the the congressional hearings that are

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<v Speaker 1>going into this, my sense is that they I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking for something. I think they're obviously from who

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<v Speaker 1>they want to subpoena that they're obviously, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>the power the Republicans have in the House, they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of pin this onto the Democrats. But they

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<v Speaker 1>are also asking people like Acosta is going to be there,

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be answering questions, and you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>Acosta has said some pretty crazy things in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>including that, you know, he was told to back off

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<v Speaker 1>of the Epstein stuff because of his connections to intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>I think anyone you know, on that committee that gets

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<v Speaker 1>there five minutes or whatever can ask him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell, why what happened? Why did Trump? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>did you what was going on there? What about the

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<v Speaker 1>Sweetheart deal? So I think that they believe that they

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of control this story, but this story is uncontrollable,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just seems to be getting worse.

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<v Speaker 4>And.

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<v Speaker 1>This constant attempt Like I saw some interview with Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan basically on Fox being like, yeah, there's nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>see here. You know, Maxwell is innocent, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she said that Trump didn't do anything wrong. Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it's just insane. Can you imagine if

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<v Speaker 1>this was Biden, right, and these allegations were about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the interesting thing. There's always a hypocrisy built in,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll just like, let you run here. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to interrupt you because I wanted to listen in

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<v Speaker 2>real time to your thought process. And I've got to say,

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<v Speaker 2>time on certain things, and occasionally I gotta be fair

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<v Speaker 2>with you. You know, sometimes you got to flip a

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<v Speaker 2>correct way when it comes to the way certain things

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<v Speaker 2>are going to play out. And that's what's happened over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. That's why I love talking to you, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, because I'm not always right and you're not

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<v Speaker 2>always wrong. You know what I'm saying. It's greatest. We

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<v Speaker 2>haven't a back and forth here, and my argument is

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<v Speaker 2>very simple. Oh, by the way, Ziteo is the name

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<v Speaker 2>of the media organization this guy started, and his last

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<v Speaker 2>name is a San. I thought you meant his first

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<v Speaker 2>like Mehdi Hassan. He's a left wing guy who literally said,

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<v Speaker 2>let the other mag of people throw up red flags

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<v Speaker 2>around us, you know, to say, you know, when it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to cut this guy off and let them debate

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<v Speaker 2>me with whatever points they think I'm an idiot liberal about.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was pretty fascinating to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>anyone with a one year old or you know, older

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<v Speaker 1>will probably know who Miss Rachel is.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool. I you know, I don't know Miss Rachel

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<v Speaker 2>because my my youngest is now eleven. But believe me,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, I think Frankie is probably

421
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<v Speaker 1>phased out of the Miss Rachel sort of. She's sort

422
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<v Speaker 1>of like a the new mister Rogers.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, No, No, I understand. Look, there are these trends

424
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<v Speaker 2>that come along. When Frankie was little, they were doing this,

425
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<v Speaker 2>you know, say hello to your fingers thing online and

426
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<v Speaker 2>somebody created that. That was a big deal. And the

427
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<v Speaker 2>gaming channels where there were families playing games were a

428
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<v Speaker 2>huge thing for your kids to watch. And it came

429
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<v Speaker 2>along with songs and everything else. You know, you go

430
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<v Speaker 2>into the nineties. I remember women, I knew young women

431
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<v Speaker 2>with kids, and you couldn't escape Barney. Look, there's always

432
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<v Speaker 2>a trend among kids that you can't escape if they're

433
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<v Speaker 2>ever exposed to the media broadcast other kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget it.

435
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<v Speaker 2>It's over that you're stuck with something. And I guess

436
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>miss Rachel's the current thing. Don't tell me anything else

437
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<v Speaker 2>about it, please, because no matter what it is, whether

438
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<v Speaker 2>it's baby shark, it doesn't matter. It's gonna drive you

439
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<v Speaker 2>insane if you're a parent for a little while, I

440
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 2>promise you, okay, And you know, look, and I'm very

441
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<v Speaker 2>happy for you. I don't want to discuss things, but

442
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<v Speaker 2>I'm very happy for your change in family situation, which

443
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<v Speaker 2>is very recent. And as a first time parent, you're

444
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<v Speaker 2>going to experience some things that no matter what I

445
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<v Speaker 2>tell you, you're just gonna have to do them. Quite frankly

446
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.480
<v Speaker 2>and sorry to say, and look for those people to

447
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<v Speaker 2>take them all on the left wing side. I always

448
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:31.599
<v Speaker 2>love to point these things out, and Pierce might disagree

449
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<v Speaker 2>with me about this too. Just current event, totally not

450
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:38.359
<v Speaker 2>tied to the Epstein thing or anything. What's happening at

451
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<v Speaker 2>the CDC right now. I'm kind of happy about it,

452
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<v Speaker 2>but I worry as to what the payoff to Big

453
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<v Speaker 2>Farm is going to be, because they're not going to

454
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<v Speaker 2>just go out of business. So I'm a little worried

455
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<v Speaker 2>about the other shoe that drops that nobody hears in

456
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<v Speaker 2>the woods when it comes to things like this. So

457
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<v Speaker 2>you know, Bobby Kennedy legitimately wants to do some of

458
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<v Speaker 2>what he's doing. How far that'll go and what the

459
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<v Speaker 2>background deal on that is going to be or is

460
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 2>already in place, We're going to find out later and

461
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:16.839
<v Speaker 2>it's going to probably be unfortunate. But on the surface,

462
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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy about what I see there a peers. You

463
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:22.240
<v Speaker 2>might not be when it comes to vaccinations and you know,

464
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.519
<v Speaker 2>and the weird things going on and people resigning and saying, oh,

465
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<v Speaker 2>it's now more dangerous in America because we don't have

466
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<v Speaker 2>the ability to you know, enforce these things on people

467
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<v Speaker 2>if we don't have all these people in place, and

468
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<v Speaker 2>we did the science, even though they didn't do a

469
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<v Speaker 2>lot of studies. People like me have said this for years.

470
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<v Speaker 2>They made declarations without studies, despite what the propaganda says,

471
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<v Speaker 2>and that, no matter what your position is, should be alarming. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the fact that some people are resigning and

473
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<v Speaker 2>being fired over that, I'm not upset. I'm actually if

474
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<v Speaker 2>Trump wasn't a complete disaster in eighty other places might

475
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<v Speaker 2>be starting to side with his administration over this. And

476
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<v Speaker 2>in fact, that's a dangerous lesson for a lot of

477
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 2>people who got their niche thing addressed without ever taking

478
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<v Speaker 2>into account the ramifications of that or the rest of

479
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.680
<v Speaker 2>what goes on around. You know, if this place serves

480
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<v Speaker 2>me a good cheeseburger, I don't care if they're raping

481
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<v Speaker 2>and murdering people in the back room is almost a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, look at all the people, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>just say in that with what you're saying, Look at

484
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<v Speaker 1>all the people that voted for him, because he was

485
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<v Speaker 1>going to round up all the pedophiles. He was gonna

486
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<v Speaker 1>he was going to blow the you know, blow the

487
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<v Speaker 1>lid off of Epstein and how it's all the Democrats

488
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.559
<v Speaker 1>and they're they're murdering children, and you know they're they're

489
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>using their adrenaline and sex parties and all this. You

490
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>know that that's that's it was a broad swath of

491
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 1>people voted for him, probably for that one thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you could look at the same people to all these

493
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't want to call them idiots, but

494
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<v Speaker 1>you see you see this like every day when you're

495
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, it's like another news clip of some poor

496
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, Hispanic voter who voted for Trump and now

497
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:22.279
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you know, niece is being deported, or they're

498
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<v Speaker 1>being deported, or someone they love is is being rounded up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are people that like voted for him

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like convinced, no, no, he's going to

501
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's going to round up the drug dealers,

502
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 1>not the you know, the guys that are you know,

503
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<v Speaker 1>hanging out at home depot getting contracting work. Well yeah,

504
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's so many of them. We're willing to

505
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>look beyond what he has been saying about, you know,

506
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.519
<v Speaker 1>these evil immigrants coming in and stealing our jobs and

507
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>raping everybody and stuff. And you know that you just

508
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>assume no, no, no, it'll be fine, and you know it's

509
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<v Speaker 1>completely working against them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well that's the funny thing is like there's still

511
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<v Speaker 2>a look of shock. See there's two things going on

512
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<v Speaker 2>that are interesting though. The look of shock on the

513
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<v Speaker 2>lady who goes. I didn't think they were going to

514
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<v Speaker 2>come and take Jose the ice cream man, which they did.

515
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<v Speaker 2>In a couple of communities they took.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, the one in like, uh, what is it in,

517
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<v Speaker 1>like Los Angeles or something, Well.

518
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.440
<v Speaker 2>There's one in LA. But there was a couple like

519
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:25.319
<v Speaker 2>somewhere in the Midwest too, where it was like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is like Jose the ice cream guy. He's been around

521
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:32.160
<v Speaker 2>here for thirty years. He never bothered anybody, and they're like,

522
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 2>they took that guy. And recently they also took firefighters

523
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:39.640
<v Speaker 2>who were fighting you know, massive wild fighters. They fires.

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<v Speaker 2>They went to the fire department where like you have

525
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<v Speaker 2>any illegal immigrants and they were like, well, you could check,

526
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>but we're in the middle of fighting fires. They waited

527
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<v Speaker 2>for them to go on break and took them. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't sound to me like the murders and rapists

529
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<v Speaker 2>and you know, cartel people. But then again, you know,

530
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<v Speaker 2>I'm told they are anyway, and oh well, you know,

531
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>nobody wants to pay attention to that part of it.

532
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>But here's here's the amazing thing. You see the individual

533
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 2>look of horror on why did they take the maid?

534
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Why did they take the guy who sweeps the sidewalk?

535
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<v Speaker 2>Why did they take the ice cream man? Why did

536
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:15.279
<v Speaker 2>they take your guys from home depot?

537
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Damn it?

538
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>How come I can't get guys to do my field work,

539
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. You know, I wonder what these guys with

540
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<v Speaker 2>the I mean, I guess there's machines now, maybe at

541
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<v Speaker 2>the wineries, the vineyards in calip I don't know how

542
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna work out. But anyway, you see looks of

543
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 2>surprise from that, and yet is there a significant drop

544
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 2>in his support? No. See, that's the thing is that,

545
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>as much as it may horrify that women they get

546
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 2>on camera, who's willing to talk to the local newsperson

547
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>standing there with their you know, phone on a stick,

548
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 2>because that's how they send out most reporters now in

549
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 2>most cities, by the way, here, take your phone on

550
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 2>a stick, use your own car. We'll give you some gas. Go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they do. In serious, in mid in mid

552
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>and even major size cities, they don't have a cameraman

553
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>at a truck anymore. Mostly they have down sized. And

554
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>it's usually the you know, you got a good iPhone, Great,

555
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>here's a stick so you can film yourself. Is literally

556
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:21.440
<v Speaker 2>what's happening. It's cheaper, way, easier, faster anyway. But that

557
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 2>look of horror is not counterbalanced by a significant group

558
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>of people disappearing. Sure, it's an example of somebody going,

559
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe this is happening. How come there's no

560
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>guys at the own deepo to help me fix my cabinets?

561
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, holcome the ice cream man got taken away?

562
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:40.359
<v Speaker 2>They took firefighters. Oh my god. Yet you didn't realize

563
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:43.039
<v Speaker 2>how many people might have not had their paperwork straight.

564
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>They were doing a lot of jobs. I get it, okay,

565
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 2>And that is the point, or it's the liberal media

566
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to sell it to you. He's not really losing anything,

567
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.480
<v Speaker 2>and he's still pretty much maintaining his support. I mean,

568
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 2>en mass. And here's the thing, even if you want

569
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>to bring up this immigration thing, I got got to

570
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.000
<v Speaker 2>play this TikTok video please because and it's the audio

571
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's less than it might be a

572
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 2>minute in something, but it's it's titled let's talk about

573
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.759
<v Speaker 2>immigration hypocrisy in the Trump family. And the reason why

574
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<v Speaker 2>I bring this up is not even to attack him.

575
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:23.799
<v Speaker 2>I just wonder how it is that we can be

576
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<v Speaker 2>morally indignant about so many things that are in our

577
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 2>wheelhouse of issues and when it's your guy and it

578
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter, by the way, any side does this. You know,

579
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 2>we care about family values until their guy doesn't care

580
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:44.039
<v Speaker 2>about family values. We care about drug problems until they

581
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.240
<v Speaker 2>find out, you know, their kids have a drug problem.

582
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 2>We care about It's amazing. I mean, we are literally

583
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the land of hypocrisy that doesn't want to, you know,

584
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:57.759
<v Speaker 2>face itself. I don't know what do you even call

585
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.039
<v Speaker 2>that anymore? You know, telling the truth? I mean that's

586
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>a bygone conclusion because whose truth is it? But here's

587
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 2>this this TikTok, which yeah, obviously it's somebody who's opposed

588
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 2>to Trump, But can you argue with the facts that

589
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 2>are in this And even if you can argue with

590
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>one or two, can you eliminate all of this interesting

591
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 2>information about the dynamic when somebody's trying to remove if

592
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>you're born here, you're a citizen. If you have this,

593
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>you're a citizen. Also. Can I just take you know,

594
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.880
<v Speaker 2>people who have their citizen papers and send them to

595
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.840
<v Speaker 2>foreign countries to screw them. Uh? You know those statements,

596
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff line it up against a little bit

597
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.800
<v Speaker 2>of recent ancestral history. You know that you should be

598
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:48.679
<v Speaker 2>able to see on ancestry dot com regarding you know,

599
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the current president. That's all. That's the point of listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a listen, peers and see if we can

601
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>learn anything from this. I'm sure you know all this,

602
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:01.880
<v Speaker 2>but let's see if we can learn something here. Let's

603
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<v Speaker 2>see come on.

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<v Speaker 1>The green cards for me, but not for thee.

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<v Speaker 4>Today we're gonna roll back the tape and do a

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<v Speaker 4>quick bick recap on first gen American Donald Trump and

607
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 4>his immigrant family. Of course, the story begends with Grandpa Drum,

608
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 4>German immigrant came to the US at sixteen, eventually tried

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<v Speaker 4>to return to Germany but was deported for dodging military service.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can hear this right, yes, okay, good. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to make sure you could hear it clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously we've covered you know, original drump coming to America,

613
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<v Speaker 2>tried to return to Germany and was ejected from Germany

614
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 2>because he had failed to take care of his military service,

615
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:47.039
<v Speaker 2>so they didn't want him back. That's by the way,

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00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I had no objection. Who knows, maybe he was a pacifist.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying there's a problem there. But let's just

618
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 2>face the reality of the history. And now I'm gonna

619
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<v Speaker 2>let it continue unmolested here and Pierce and I are

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00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>going to listen. But I wanted to be sure Pierce

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<v Speaker 2>could hear this because I didn't test to begin with

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<v Speaker 2>guys forty listening. Anyway, here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Friedrich Drumf married another German woman and together they had

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<v Speaker 4>Fred Donnie T's dad. Fred Trump built his fortune using

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<v Speaker 4>government subsidies to build affordable housing. He was later investigated

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<v Speaker 4>by the Senate for profiteering and sued by the Justice

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<v Speaker 4>Department for racially discriminatory housing practices.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, a little inaccuracy there. I'm not sure how much

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<v Speaker 2>of the government subsidized housing he actually built, but he

630
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<v Speaker 2>did bring in a lot of money from government subsidies

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain things, to install new things, to improve the

632
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<v Speaker 2>government housing that he was offering up as here's my

633
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<v Speaker 2>chief alternative, so I can get you know, like section

634
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<v Speaker 2>eight payments, it was called something else then, I think,

635
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<v Speaker 2>But either way, this was the business he was in,

636
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<v Speaker 2>and that's just you know, I just point that out,

637
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure if she's entirely accurate there. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let it continue.

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<v Speaker 4>Fred married Mary Ann trump Done' mom. She was a

640
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.119
<v Speaker 4>poor Scottish immigrant who came to New York and worked

641
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 4>as a maid. In a nineteen forty US census, she

642
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 4>falsely claimed that she was a US citizen, even though

643
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 4>records showed that she didn't become a citizen until two

644
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 4>years later nineteen forty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's talk wives.

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<v Speaker 4>Donni TI's first wife, Evanna, was an immigrant from Czechoslovakia.

647
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<v Speaker 4>All three of their children, Eric, Ivanka, and Don Junior

648
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 4>were all born before she was a US citizen, and

649
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 4>despite being married to a US citizen, Donald Trump, it

650
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.000
<v Speaker 4>still took her eleven years to get her citizenship. And then,

651
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 4>of course, his third and current wife, Milania, born in Slovenia,

652
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 4>came on a visitor visa, worked illegally as a model,

653
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.960
<v Speaker 4>and somehow landed in Einstein visa and then used chain

654
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:44.840
<v Speaker 4>migration to bring her parents over. Her son, Baron, also

655
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 4>born before she was a US citizen.

656
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<v Speaker 1>So essentially, what we've learned is that.

657
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<v Speaker 4>Trump's entire existence and that of his children is thanks

658
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:57.199
<v Speaker 4>to the very same immigration policies that he's fought so

659
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 4>hard to destroy. So next time somebody says come the

660
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:04.000
<v Speaker 4>right way, ask them if that also includes the Trump family.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So I do find that an interesting question, right,

662
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<v Speaker 2>because according to a lot of things that have been argued, supported,

663
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:21.719
<v Speaker 2>demanded as of late by the president, is you know, acolytes,

664
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 2>his sick offhants and the rest of the people that

665
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:29.119
<v Speaker 2>show up at rallies. You know, seems to me like

666
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 2>most of his family, ex wives, everybody should have been

667
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 2>deported at certain points here, you know, and maybe he

668
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't belong here. Oh, by the way, does that mean

669
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:45.119
<v Speaker 2>he shouldn't be president? I mean, I'm just questioning. So really,

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<v Speaker 2>if you follow the chain, now, I don't agree with

671
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<v Speaker 2>any of that. By the way, I think that if

672
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 2>you're born here, as I've understood it, that's your citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>They change the law or change up the constitution after that,

674
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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's this thing called a grandfather clause where

675
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the way the law was before. When

676
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you did this thing, we can't rewind to go. They

677
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 2>changed the law, so now we got to punish you

678
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:13.639
<v Speaker 2>for a crime. Now we have to deport you because

679
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:17.039
<v Speaker 2>you're not I think that's the way the law works.

680
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:21.159
<v Speaker 2>But then again, I'm crazy. So you know, there's a

681
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 2>logic there that if you try and present this to

682
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:31.639
<v Speaker 2>somebody who is all in, they just, you know, completely

683
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 2>spit it. It's sort of like throwing a cat onto

684
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 2>a table when you're trying to build a house of cards.

685
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, they might not be interested in that house

686
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 2>of cards, but that house card is going to fall

687
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.039
<v Speaker 2>if you throw that cat on the table. And that's

688
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:51.480
<v Speaker 2>what they do to your logical argument. That's what they

689
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 2>do to their own arguments. That's what happens to everything.

690
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 2>And at the end of it, you're just happy the

691
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 2>cat didn't scratch you. I mean, that's literally the metaphorum

692
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 2>looking for you here. Maybe I'm again out of line,

693
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:04.320
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not even trying to be against the guy.

694
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, today would be a good day for me

695
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.079
<v Speaker 2>to be for the Trump administration because of the action

696
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 2>at the CDC. I mean, I could pick out that

697
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.159
<v Speaker 2>and I could say, finally, somebody's doing the things and

698
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 2>saying some of the things, including we're one of the

699
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.920
<v Speaker 2>most medicated populations on the planet and yet we're still

700
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:26.039
<v Speaker 2>very sick. Something doesn't make sense here. Bobby Kennedy was

701
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:28.800
<v Speaker 2>saying that today and has said that many times, and

702
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:30.960
<v Speaker 2>that's a sentence that comes out of my mouth almost

703
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>similar one often. So somebody who is actually enacting my

704
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:41.719
<v Speaker 2>will under the Trump administration, I'm still concerned as to

705
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:45.440
<v Speaker 2>what the price of that is going to be. And

706
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.679
<v Speaker 2>even though it may be a nice little victory here

707
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:51.159
<v Speaker 2>or there, you know, I always have this sneaking suspicion

708
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 2>that when they give you something nice, you know, there

709
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.719
<v Speaker 2>are certain people that only give you something to either

710
00:40:56.760 --> 00:41:00.119
<v Speaker 2>a get something or to distract you from something there

711
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 2>taking from you, and they give you a little prize,

712
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, when somebody's house burns down and they show

713
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.800
<v Speaker 2>up with a sandwich. Yes, you're grateful for the sandwich,

714
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.719
<v Speaker 2>but if the same person who gave you the sandwich

715
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 2>burned your house down, you're thinking maybe you lost in

716
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.559
<v Speaker 2>that equation. Just saying, but I know, none of that

717
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:21.320
<v Speaker 2>makes any sense, Piers. Maybe that's your thoughts for later.

718
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.639
<v Speaker 2>But when we look at this Maxwell slash Epstein situation,

719
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I have that same feeling. You know, here we go,

720
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to give you much, but by the

721
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 2>time we do. Maybe it's my experience with the JFK

722
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.400
<v Speaker 2>stuff that's done this to me. You know, by the

723
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:41.519
<v Speaker 2>time they give you something, they've already stolen ten things,

724
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.840
<v Speaker 2>They've already declined to prosecute certain people, they've already removed

725
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:52.159
<v Speaker 2>people from the list in quotes, they've already so, you know,

726
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.159
<v Speaker 2>and the spin is happening. I think incrementally it's going

727
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to get cushed and over time, this outrage it's not

728
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.480
<v Speaker 2>even going to put a dent in his popularity and

729
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 2>his efforts to maybe even take a third term, which,

730
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Speaker 2>by the way, according to the Constitution. You know, that

731
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:14.880
<v Speaker 2>thing I thought wasn't even a question, But everything is

732
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:17.559
<v Speaker 2>now questionable, depending on what you want the answer to

733
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:21.239
<v Speaker 2>be anymore in America. That's the new reality in which

734
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 2>we find ourselves, which is why I figure not only

735
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.679
<v Speaker 2>is his positive media going to quash it, but his

736
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>alleged opposite, you know, the media that's allegedly in opposition

737
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 2>to him, is going to let it fade. I think

738
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:36.119
<v Speaker 2>they're already doing it. It's not at the top of

739
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 2>the headlines anymore, Piers not mostly. But then again, here's

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00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:45.880
<v Speaker 2>the version your algorithms. Your algorithms may vary goohd no, No,

741
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I think.

742
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<v Speaker 1>That's true too. I mean, you know, what, what I'm

743
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.119
<v Speaker 1>looking at when I google it is probably different than

744
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>what you know everyone else is seeing when they google it.

745
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It's listening. But I think I still, I still believe

746
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:10.519
<v Speaker 1>this has serious traction, and I think it might be

747
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:19.679
<v Speaker 1>going away among certain aspects or certain swaths of his

748
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 1>supporters and stuff are willing to kind of turn a

749
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>blind eye and stuff like that.

750
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:23.639
<v Speaker 3>But I.

751
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Still think that I'm fairly certain he won't pardon Maxwell.

752
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>But even that seems like, I don't know, maybe he will,

753
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I would like to think that

754
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that is like a red line that even he won't cross.

755
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:43.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how he would explain that. But the

756
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:48.199
<v Speaker 1>fact that that's even being floated, that he's even floating it,

757
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>is shocking, and I think that that's shocking to people.

758
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>But I still think that there are now so many

759
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 1>eyeballs on it that weren't previously, And I think there

760
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 1>are people that are that we're sitting on stories like

761
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, CNN, others like that,

762
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and they now see an opening and I'm gonna see

763
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>more of that. I don't think that it's necessary, Like,

764
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, there is no smoking gun. There's not going

765
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 1>to be a you know, video that's going to come

766
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:30.639
<v Speaker 1>out that definitively proves that, you know, Trump was with

767
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Epstein partying and having sex with you know, underage individuals.

768
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's ever going to come out. But

769
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 1>I think that this has the potential to really unravel

770
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.559
<v Speaker 1>the administration. And I still think that at this moment

771
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 1>right now, he is so the administration has become so insular,

772
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 1>and now it's like he's kind of he's stuck. He

773
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 1>can't replace any of these people. He can't get rid

774
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of Bondie, he can't get rid of Ptellit, he can't

775
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>get rid of Bongino, you know, all these Todd Blanche

776
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:14.639
<v Speaker 1>and others. I mean, And in some ways you could think, oh, well, yeah,

777
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.159
<v Speaker 1>it's just sort of strengthening it. But in other ways,

778
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.119
<v Speaker 1>I think it really kind of like it locks him

779
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>in and now these people also have power over him.

780
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:24.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't get rid of me, because if

781
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you get rid of me, I'll, you know, I'll leak

782
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>such and such a story. And I still think that

783
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:36.880
<v Speaker 1>also that this particular story is so vast and far reaching.

784
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:42.920
<v Speaker 1>There are so many people involved in this, and it

785
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 1>is it is an event or you know, a period

786
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:55.079
<v Speaker 1>of time that has never I don't think that people

787
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>have ever really been able to control the narrative at times,

788
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:00.880
<v Speaker 1>people on the left, people on the right, they've been

789
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:02.559
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of control it to an extent. You know,

790
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it's all Bill Clinton. No, it's all Donald Trump, you know,

791
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>those sort of looking at through everything in these sort

792
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of political lenses. But I think more people are beginning

793
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to see that there are victims involved in this. There

794
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:20.840
<v Speaker 1>are people that want to know there are there's more

795
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>at stake than this, and I think that none of

796
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>them really have a sense of how powerful this is. Now.

797
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>It's it's completely possible too on the you know that

798
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:35.559
<v Speaker 1>because so many people are involved in this, will never

799
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:39.599
<v Speaker 1>really know to somehow it will get, you know, quashed.

800
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 1>But I think that even if it does get quashed

801
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:46.039
<v Speaker 1>like that, enough people will will understand and will remember

802
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:50.039
<v Speaker 1>why is that, you know, I mean just just thinking

803
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you know about this before and then you know, when

804
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about you know, CNN, and then the

805
00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>true sort of like puppet masters there. This was something

806
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't know until you know, a few days

807
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:08.719
<v Speaker 1>ago or today actually is that you know, Bill Gates

808
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>has been meeting with Donald Trump in the White House.

809
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:14.159
<v Speaker 1>They would have these private now and I really really

810
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.880
<v Speaker 1>doubt that they were talking about Gates, you know, global

811
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 1>health initiatives. I'm sure they were talking about Epstein and

812
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they were talking about Epstein when they had

813
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.559
<v Speaker 1>this private dinner, you know, before he was inaugurated. And

814
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's that kind of stuck you know, I mean,

815
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>which you could look at that and be like, nothing

816
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to come out because if Bill Gates and

817
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump can agree on one thing, and it's that.

818
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.599
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, I really do think that

819
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:43.199
<v Speaker 1>there are so many more eyeballs on this. There are

820
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>more people that are speaking out about this, even you know,

821
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>people that had like Maria Farmer, who and maybe I'm wrong,

822
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>but I you know, before all of this came out,

823
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe she ever spoke really negatively about Donald Trump.

824
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.519
<v Speaker 1>And now she is she is telling people about you know,

825
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>stories when you know, going to Epstein's office in the

826
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.360
<v Speaker 1>middle of the night and seeing Donald Trump there and

827
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Epstein telling her no that you know, she's not for you,

828
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>or something to that effect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. There, here's here's the issue I have with what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying. And look, you're my friend. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to destroy you, Okay, I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>even debate you full on. I just offer some counterpoints.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the problem with this idea of well, he

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<v Speaker 2>can't get rid of BONDI and you can't get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of bond Gino. I think that's bs. And here's why

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<v Speaker 2>in order to you know, leverage somebody with that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of information in order to perform blackmail. Let's remove all

838
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<v Speaker 2>of the issues from this, except that in order to

839
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<v Speaker 2>blackmail somebody, in order to leverage somebody with information, right,

840
00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:03.079
<v Speaker 2>you have to be able to identify that is, you know, valuable.

841
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 2>You have to be able to access it and control it, okay,

842
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and then you have to be able to communicate to

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<v Speaker 2>your mark that you have the ability. And a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people get to that part and they can communicate

845
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<v Speaker 2>the threat or the ability. I mean, you know, Elon

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00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Musk communicate it a threat on Twitter and then changes

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<v Speaker 2>his mind about it. You know, Trump is in the

848
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<v Speaker 2>epstet piles. I'm sorry, I was angry. Yeah, I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Bondi and Bongino could communicate that threat. But the level

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<v Speaker 2>of competence it would require to identify, capture, and then

851
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<v Speaker 2>control information in order to successfully utilize it as leverage

852
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 2>requires a level of competence that I think these characters

853
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:55.559
<v Speaker 2>that you think are locked in do not possess, and

854
00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, evident by making public statements that make you

855
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:03.480
<v Speaker 2>look like a fool. Uh, you know, regarding he's ready

856
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<v Speaker 2>to quit, you know how many months ago now Longino,

857
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<v Speaker 2>he's ready to quit over this?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I agree, I agree. I think that they I

859
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<v Speaker 1>mean I think that if anything, it just illustrates that

860
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<v Speaker 1>the I mean, how incompetent. Yeah, they are as an

861
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<v Speaker 1>administrat you know. And it's so funny too because it's like, oh,

862
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna they're gonna do, you know, destroy the deep state,

863
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, well, best case scenario, they're completely incompetent.

864
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<v Speaker 1>They can't even crisis manage this story. So I don't

865
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<v Speaker 1>know how they're gonna take on the deep state, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like, you know, worst case scenario, this is

867
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<v Speaker 1>the deep state. This is how incompetent they are, you know,

868
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:45.199
<v Speaker 1>this is like this is well, these are the front

869
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<v Speaker 1>the best that they can offer.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the front men and the secondary front man.

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<v Speaker 2>Because reality is different. Look, never forget that he had

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of Komy, even though Komi had successfully

873
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<v Speaker 2>put out information right before an election that he won

874
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<v Speaker 2>that undermined you know, Hillary, which I you know, I

875
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<v Speaker 2>still say to this day, the CIA could not have

876
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<v Speaker 2>even convincingly, uh, you know, stolen that election for her

877
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:14.000
<v Speaker 2>in public. But you know, so that's why we got

878
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Trump in the first place. But remember this, He replaced

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<v Speaker 2>Komi and got Christopher Ray in there because that was

880
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<v Speaker 2>his guy, and he seemed to be doing his bidding.

881
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<v Speaker 2>He seemed to be doing a lot of stuff. And

882
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.920
<v Speaker 2>then eventually Christopher Ray is actually an enemy of these

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<v Speaker 2>other people.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, call it the truth about the JFA assassination.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, what do you want to know?

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<v Speaker 6>Judy Baker's wild claim Oswal girlfriends he knew? Ruby and

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<v Speaker 6>Barrie answer weapons? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make me a wagon.

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<v Speaker 6>But okay, Bilby and trying to prevent the murder of

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<v Speaker 6>John Kennedy, come on now, has a real effort on

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<v Speaker 6>the DAFA assassination.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her

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<v Speaker 2>and the known evidence in the case to get at

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<v Speaker 2>well a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judith

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<v Speaker 2>Judith Barry Baker, in her own words, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Revelation through consage, Oh shell You.

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941
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<v Speaker 10>have been assassinated if you had been president two hundred

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<v Speaker 10>years ago. His assassination took place in the context of

945
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<v Speaker 2>So we returned from a quick break. There little technical issue,

958
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<v Speaker 2>but I was in the midst of talking about Christopher

959
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<v Speaker 2>Ray and the changeover from He's Trump's guy to replace

960
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.280
<v Speaker 2>call me too, he's part of the deep state, but

961
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<v Speaker 2>also recognized that John Bolton had to be removed. Uh

962
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and then he was no longer a good guy, and

963
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:10.519
<v Speaker 2>he was on a media tour, and then he put

964
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:14.320
<v Speaker 2>out a book, and then recently they raided his house.

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<v Speaker 2>So you go from being I know, the best people

966
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<v Speaker 2>to your an enemy of the state. And I don't know,

967
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't seem like these guys' behaviors changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm thinking, you know, Bondi Bongino, I mean, what,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not eligible for the John Bolton or the Christopher

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<v Speaker 2>Ray treatment appears. I mean, that's my objection, and I

972
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<v Speaker 2>turn it to you with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're I think it's a valid point, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's totally possible, especially with someone as

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<v Speaker 1>mercurial as Trump. He could turn on a dime, obviously,

976
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:49.079
<v Speaker 1>and he does every day.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's transactional He's transactional always, so you know, remember

978
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:56.079
<v Speaker 2>that it's about the last transaction. What have you done

979
00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:58.000
<v Speaker 2>for me lately? They might have said in the eighties,

980
00:59:58.480 --> 00:59:59.880
<v Speaker 2>but you know, here, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, go ahead, No, No, I mean I think that,

982
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:08.679
<v Speaker 1>but maybe I'm wrong. I might be I might be

983
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:12.480
<v Speaker 1>over estimating this, But I think that when it comes

984
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<v Speaker 1>to this particular issue, the Epstein stuff, this child trafficking, pedophilia,

985
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:24.960
<v Speaker 1>this hits with his base in a way that almost

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else does. And and it was interesting we were

987
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:31.719
<v Speaker 1>talking earlier about these you know, these poor people that

988
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:36.320
<v Speaker 1>are getting uh, you know, rounded up by ice and

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01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:40.719
<v Speaker 1>they're being you know, rendered to different prisons across the

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<v Speaker 1>United States or being sent you know to El Salvador

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01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:46.679
<v Speaker 1>or Mexico or you know, and then sometimes places they're

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<v Speaker 1>not even actually from. And that that makes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people that vote for oh, I can't believe they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they got rid of this guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>his beloved ice cream man and blah blah blah, and

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01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:01.039
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like a blip, and it kind of

997
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<v Speaker 1>like leaves. But and that's like someone that they might

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<v Speaker 1>actually have a personal relationship with. Yet there's all of

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<v Speaker 1>these these kind of faceless, nameless victims out there that

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<v Speaker 1>you know mean everything to these people. And it's funny

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01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.719
<v Speaker 1>because even even the actual like victims that are involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this, like you know, Jeffree who's no longer with us,

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<v Speaker 1>Maria Farmer, Courtney Wild, Sarah Ransom, you know, so these

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<v Speaker 1>people that are their names have come out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>to them, they don't even really like see those people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but it's it's all the all the girls,

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<v Speaker 1>all the women, you know, Epstein, They're just they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing all somehow that this amorphous group of people they

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<v Speaker 1>can't really name that means everything to them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think there is some power there, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they the for me, at least the number of people

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<v Speaker 1>that voted for him based on that. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that he can just turn that off and convince them no.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. To me, I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>true he could totally turn on these people like Bondi

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<v Speaker 1>and others. And I think it's interesting that someone like

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01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Bolton does does have a little bit of juice enough

1018
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<v Speaker 1>to go on CNN and be like he's an idiot

1019
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.119
<v Speaker 1>to write a book, and you see the response to

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<v Speaker 1>that is that they're raiding his house and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, he's keeping national security secrets and he's

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<v Speaker 1>being removed from the you know, his CIA daily briefings

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<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff. But I think Bolton

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<v Speaker 1>has enough juice to you know, for him, it's like okay, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is like a Neocon these Neocon royalty.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I don't think he's gonna like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that Bolton is and it suddenly just stop.

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<v Speaker 1>But and I do think that he could turn on

1031
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<v Speaker 1>these other people, but I think that if he does,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think his base is going to have a reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that he's he's trying his best to

1034
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<v Speaker 1>tiptoe around it and to manage it, and in some

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<v Speaker 1>respects it is working because I think you are right,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of like magnifying glass on this is maybe

1037
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.760
<v Speaker 1>not as powerful as it was a few weeks ago,

1038
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:36.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's not going away. Johnson's attempts to make it disappear,

1039
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the summer recess, I mean it's completely meaningless.

1040
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:41.960
<v Speaker 1>They're going to come back and they're going to vote

1041
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:47.880
<v Speaker 1>on this. There's already a committee that is subpoenaing all

1042
01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:54.239
<v Speaker 1>sorts of people, including Acosta, And I don't think it's

1043
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:57.320
<v Speaker 1>going to end with this one committee hearing. And yeah,

1044
01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I think it. I don't think it

1045
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:02.840
<v Speaker 1>has the power to like take down the presidency the

1046
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:06.679
<v Speaker 1>way that some people in the media that dislike him

1047
01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:10.719
<v Speaker 1>might think. But for me, at least, the fact that

1048
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:16.119
<v Speaker 1>there will never be a history book written that doesn't

1049
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:19.159
<v Speaker 1>have to have a chapter on this that I think

1050
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.880
<v Speaker 1>is like a pretty big blow to someone like Trump.

1051
01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:26.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what drives him. It's not, you know,

1052
01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:29.639
<v Speaker 1>it's not what the media thinks about him. It's the

1053
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.239
<v Speaker 1>fact that this is going to be in the history books.

1054
01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:35.880
<v Speaker 1>There's no way to avoid this. And I do think

1055
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:41.760
<v Speaker 1>that there now you're beginning to see not like cracks

1056
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:46.239
<v Speaker 1>in this, but he has said this is all made up,

1057
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it's none of it's real. Maxwell is saying none of

1058
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:52.960
<v Speaker 1>this is real. And then you have people like Brad Edwards,

1059
01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:55.719
<v Speaker 1>who he was, you know, an attorney for that represented

1060
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:59.519
<v Speaker 1>many of the victims, he's saying, who has actually been

1061
01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:03.719
<v Speaker 1>favorable to Trump, but he's always said that Trump cooperated

1062
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:05.880
<v Speaker 1>with him. Trump was willing to go on the record

1063
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:09.400
<v Speaker 1>with him. You know when when Courtney Wilde was one

1064
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:12.440
<v Speaker 1>of his clients, was suing Epstein, So you know, Trump

1065
01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:14.840
<v Speaker 1>is one that was you know at the time he

1066
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.639
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to Edwards. Okay, okay, any thing I

1067
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:18.519
<v Speaker 1>know about Epstein.

1068
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I now have to interrupt you, because, first of all,

1069
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:24.840
<v Speaker 2>if you examine the way that Trump has handled depositions

1070
01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:28.119
<v Speaker 2>and lawsuits in the past, you know that's not going

1071
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:30.880
<v Speaker 2>to be a productive deposition no matter what you're looking for,

1072
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:32.199
<v Speaker 2>because that is.

1073
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:36.400
<v Speaker 1>His and I think it's BS two. And in fact,

1074
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:39.039
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even a deposition he did. They did not.

1075
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:43.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they truly subpoenaed him. He spoke just

1076
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:46.440
<v Speaker 1>on the record to him. He's just like talked on

1077
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the phone. But even worse, there was no deposition.

1078
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Even worse because when he's in an adversarial position with

1079
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:56.119
<v Speaker 2>lawyers actually questioning him, it gets really strange. I mean,

1080
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:58.400
<v Speaker 2>you can look at any of the released stuff from

1081
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:02.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, various lawsuits against whether it's Trump University or

1082
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:06.440
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, the sex assault you know deal, It

1083
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:11.400
<v Speaker 2>is such a nightmare of this guy is actually skilled

1084
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:14.480
<v Speaker 2>in making sure you get nothing done when it comes

1085
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:18.039
<v Speaker 2>to trying to depose him. So no matter what methodology,

1086
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.239
<v Speaker 2>how loose it is, how committed it is, how legal

1087
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and lawful it is, how much on the record, it's

1088
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:28.519
<v Speaker 2>all irrelevant. One. Two here's another thing that just amazes me.

1089
01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:31.559
<v Speaker 2>See this will have to be in the history, but

1090
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:34.880
<v Speaker 2>you're forgetting something. The people that were with him on

1091
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:37.079
<v Speaker 2>the He's going to get the pedophiles thing were with

1092
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:41.760
<v Speaker 2>him in twenty fifteen. They witnessed what happened with Epstein.

1093
01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:46.760
<v Speaker 2>They witnessed the suicide, which they questioned. They witnessed all

1094
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:50.239
<v Speaker 2>of that. Then he left office and Maxwell was taken

1095
01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:53.239
<v Speaker 2>in while Biden was in office. If you listen to

1096
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:56.719
<v Speaker 2>those people now about the history, they're fully willing to

1097
01:06:56.800 --> 01:07:02.880
<v Speaker 2>accept that Epstein committed suicide under no I know, I know.

1098
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:08.000
<v Speaker 2>So the adjustment of the timeline is like these people

1099
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:12.239
<v Speaker 2>that argue Mandela effect with me, it's just nope, it

1100
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:16.840
<v Speaker 2>was this way, but it wasn't yes, it was what

1101
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.840
<v Speaker 2>do you do with that? So the acceptable history that

1102
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:22.519
<v Speaker 2>could be written out of this. And I talked to

1103
01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Larry Hancock last night about how history is being manipulated

1104
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and politicized, and this is exactly the kind of thing

1105
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:34.480
<v Speaker 2>that's going to create false histories, and people are celebrating

1106
01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:37.840
<v Speaker 2>over false histories that claim to want the truth the history.

1107
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:42.719
<v Speaker 2>This is where we're at. So I gotta tell you

1108
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 2>your point doesn't stand very well with me considering what

1109
01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching happen in real time. I mean, it's like

1110
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:54.679
<v Speaker 2>they blame stuff on Obama when he's not even in office.

1111
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:58.400
<v Speaker 2>They say, well, you had control from the outside. I mean,

1112
01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I have no way of stopping the intellectual contortions of

1113
01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:09.559
<v Speaker 2>those that will change the timeline, change the power dynamic

1114
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:14.519
<v Speaker 2>change who was responsible? And they're also fully on board

1115
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:17.560
<v Speaker 2>with that wind of change there. When Bolton was brought

1116
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:20.840
<v Speaker 2>in by Trump, he's a great guy. When Trump rejected him,

1117
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:21.840
<v Speaker 2>no longer, I need to grow up.

1118
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And I think again, that's a valid point,

1119
01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:29.079
<v Speaker 1>and I think that those people are too far gone.

1120
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:33.600
<v Speaker 1>They are you know, these are the equivalent of you know,

1121
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Trump's own sort of sea Org with these individuals.

1122
01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:40.000
<v Speaker 2>They're they're they're so.

1123
01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Immeshed in his culture personality. But I mean, you're never

1124
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:51.039
<v Speaker 1>going to really convince. I mean, again, they could see

1125
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a video of Trump with Epstein and doing god knows

1126
01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:56.079
<v Speaker 1>what and it would be fake, right, you know, I

1127
01:08:56.159 --> 01:09:03.600
<v Speaker 1>mean everything is already fake. But I I mean those people,

1128
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you're never gonna convince it one way or the other.

1129
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, they would be willing to turn

1130
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 1>on their own family members, and some of them, I

1131
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:14.439
<v Speaker 1>think do because of that. But I do think that

1132
01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:18.039
<v Speaker 1>there are enough people. I think there are still people

1133
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:20.079
<v Speaker 1>that are on the fence. I think there are people

1134
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:26.439
<v Speaker 1>that were more recently conned by him, and he's utilized

1135
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:29.239
<v Speaker 1>those people, and those are the people that I think

1136
01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:30.520
<v Speaker 1>he's pissed that he's losing.

1137
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but see, here's the thing about that hardcore group

1138
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:35.920
<v Speaker 2>that you were talking about will never leave him and

1139
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:38.199
<v Speaker 2>the barnacles you know, on the bottom of the whale

1140
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:41.479
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Here's the deal with that. Though a lot

1141
01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:45.720
<v Speaker 2>of them have podcasts, a lot and a lot of

1142
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:47.720
<v Speaker 2>them have if they don't have that, they're popular on

1143
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:51.319
<v Speaker 2>social media. They have platforms one way or another, and

1144
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:53.039
<v Speaker 2>if they didn't have one, they could go get one

1145
01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:57.119
<v Speaker 2>untruth social So the thing is it's not just about

1146
01:09:57.199 --> 01:10:01.079
<v Speaker 2>them and that percentage. It's about the influen that has

1147
01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:04.319
<v Speaker 2>continued to give reasonable doubt to those that wish to

1148
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:08.079
<v Speaker 2>believe and given cover to those that insist on believing

1149
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.880
<v Speaker 2>that are out there that are not speaking out. That's

1150
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:16.520
<v Speaker 2>what's maintaining his numbers. And I think everybody is underestimating that.

1151
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:20.119
<v Speaker 2>I really do, because these are the people that have

1152
01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:22.039
<v Speaker 2>stuck with him. When he said I didn't know the guy,

1153
01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:24.359
<v Speaker 2>then video comes out, Well, I was around him some

1154
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:26.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, we lived in the same neighborhood. What are

1155
01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:31.319
<v Speaker 2>you going to do? Yeah, okay, but you know, every

1156
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:36.119
<v Speaker 2>excuse is acceptable unless you're somebody I don't like that.

1157
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:38.800
<v Speaker 2>None of your excuses are acceptable. Matter of fact, there's

1158
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:41.039
<v Speaker 2>a cover up, and your excuses represent something else.

1159
01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:42.199
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1160
01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:46.199
<v Speaker 2>It's literally that weird strategy of not only am I

1161
01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:48.680
<v Speaker 2>going to deny what you're accusing me of, but I'm

1162
01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:51.920
<v Speaker 2>now going to accuse you of it. And I don't

1163
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:55.239
<v Speaker 2>know what that is called. Necessarily there's a term for

1164
01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:58.279
<v Speaker 2>it that I can't think of, but it's a real

1165
01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:02.239
<v Speaker 2>thing and it's working think so, you know, and maybe

1166
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:04.640
<v Speaker 2>not one hundred percent, maybe not even more than thirty

1167
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:09.880
<v Speaker 2>five percent, but it's working enough to create the coalition,

1168
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:13.279
<v Speaker 2>and the other part of that coalition could be I

1169
01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:15.079
<v Speaker 2>don't like any of the stuff he does or says

1170
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:18.840
<v Speaker 2>but he's doing what I want, you know, the camp

1171
01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:20.199
<v Speaker 2>that I could fall into and what.

1172
01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, Yes, I'm just saying I think a lot

1173
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 1>willing to.

1174
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:29.239
<v Speaker 2>But if you stitch these things together, that's a majority.

1175
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:35.560
<v Speaker 2>That's what's happening in my mind. And I think this again, incrementally,

1176
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 2>it's going to get quashed and then the way the

1177
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:40.680
<v Speaker 2>history will be written is going to be determined by

1178
01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:42.680
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of things, because they're going to have

1179
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:44.800
<v Speaker 2>to say, look, the president said this at the end

1180
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:48.039
<v Speaker 2>of the day, doesn't matter if he's a pathological war

1181
01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:51.600
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter if he switches, you know, based on well,

1182
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:53.760
<v Speaker 2>why does that guy you know, literally I watched him

1183
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:55.840
<v Speaker 2>recently go when they say what do you think about

1184
01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:57.760
<v Speaker 2>what this guy said? And he goes, does that guy

1185
01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:02.000
<v Speaker 2>like me or not? Like? Literally, that's part of what

1186
01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:05.680
<v Speaker 2>it's based on for him at that level, but it

1187
01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:10.520
<v Speaker 2>represents something else to these other people. They're not just

1188
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:15.600
<v Speaker 2>against Trump, they're against America. And there were people always

1189
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:17.520
<v Speaker 2>like that that said you can't talk about the president.

1190
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:21.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean you were alive for Bush Junior, for sure.

1191
01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:24.560
<v Speaker 2>You remember you talk about the president. Boy, you were

1192
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:28.479
<v Speaker 2>talking against America. What are you with the terrorists. That

1193
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:31.960
<v Speaker 2>is still there, except now it's what are you against Trump?

1194
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:35.479
<v Speaker 2>You're against America. You must be with the democrats, the terrorists,

1195
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the pedophiles. You're with that. And that's the real thing.

1196
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:42.199
<v Speaker 2>There are people that see that's a straight face, not like,

1197
01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:45.800
<v Speaker 2>are you trying to make a ridiculous argument. I mean,

1198
01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:47.760
<v Speaker 2>the weirdest thing I saw. I got a guy to

1199
01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:51.600
<v Speaker 2>take down a YouTube video which I was totally shocked at,

1200
01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:53.359
<v Speaker 2>and maybe it came from other places and I'm just

1201
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:56.680
<v Speaker 2>thinking too big about the comments I threw at him.

1202
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:02.560
<v Speaker 2>But this moron was trying to Edward j Epstein, the

1203
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:06.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, suspect critic of the Kennedy assassination, one of

1204
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:10.159
<v Speaker 2>the first ones who seemed to be, you know, constantly undermining,

1205
01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:14.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, legitimate questions against the official story, even though

1206
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:16.199
<v Speaker 2>he was supposed to be a critic of the official story.

1207
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:20.079
<v Speaker 2>That guy who did a whole bunch of weird stuff,

1208
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:24.720
<v Speaker 2>and I'm convinced was an intelligence asset. Edward j Epstein.

1209
01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:28.840
<v Speaker 2>This guy was wondering aloud on his YouTube channel how

1210
01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:32.840
<v Speaker 2>that guy who wrote books on JFK still looked so

1211
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.560
<v Speaker 2>good in the nineties and the early two thousands, when

1212
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:41.880
<v Speaker 2>he was a sex trafficker because it's Jay Epstein, you see, right?

1213
01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:46.319
<v Speaker 2>And I went, you know, is this a joke? Because

1214
01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:49.760
<v Speaker 2>you are playing the straight man way too well and

1215
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:54.520
<v Speaker 2>you do realize these are two entirely different human beings

1216
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:59.119
<v Speaker 2>that simply share a last name, which I'm not saying.

1217
01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:01.560
<v Speaker 2>I know they're related or not, but you obviously don't

1218
01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:05.840
<v Speaker 2>know either, and you're relating this guy being a critic

1219
01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:08.680
<v Speaker 2>of the Kennedys. How do you even get there? Is

1220
01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:12.319
<v Speaker 2>this a joke? And a couple of days later the

1221
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:17.800
<v Speaker 2>YouTube video disappeared, but it was funny because he's got

1222
01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:20.640
<v Speaker 2>a following. I'm not gonna even give his name. I

1223
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:22.319
<v Speaker 2>don't even remember it off the top of my head.

1224
01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:24.680
<v Speaker 2>But either way, this guy is one of those social

1225
01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:29.720
<v Speaker 2>commentator guys out there who is on the MAGA side

1226
01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:34.239
<v Speaker 2>for sure, but was asking that question. So you know,

1227
01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:36.479
<v Speaker 2>how many stupid things can they throw at the wall

1228
01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:39.560
<v Speaker 2>before you get lost in their stupid things and forget

1229
01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:45.039
<v Speaker 2>about the core issue? Is my major question? So you know,

1230
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:48.000
<v Speaker 2>here we go. How is this going to be written?

1231
01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:51.199
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea, but I don't see it affecting

1232
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:53.920
<v Speaker 2>him at all, and I don't see it affecting him

1233
01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:56.039
<v Speaker 2>in the long term or his legacy or any of that.

1234
01:14:56.439 --> 01:14:57.920
<v Speaker 2>And I'll give you the final word on this, Pier,

1235
01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.640
<v Speaker 2>because I held you a little longer, but we got disconnected,

1236
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:03.880
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And next time we talk, I really want

1237
01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:07.159
<v Speaker 2>to talk about South Park, just saying because there's there's

1238
01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:11.039
<v Speaker 2>something weird going on there too, boys and girls, and

1239
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:13.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously go over to Porkins Policy Review dot

1240
01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:16.840
<v Speaker 2>com check out his archive on Epstein. You could probably

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01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:18.920
<v Speaker 2>learn a hell of a lot more than you will

1242
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.159
<v Speaker 2>from reading any of the current stuff or any of

1243
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:24.039
<v Speaker 2>the propaganda related to it. How about the core issues

1244
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:26.520
<v Speaker 2>And oh, by the way, it was the alternative media

1245
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:30.159
<v Speaker 2>picked up on this first, the actual alternative media, and

1246
01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:33.119
<v Speaker 2>then it was hijacked by the right wing all media,

1247
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:36.399
<v Speaker 2>and then it became a thing, and now it is

1248
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:39.000
<v Speaker 2>a mainstream I mean, you would think that people like

1249
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:42.000
<v Speaker 2>myself and Pierce would see this as a victory. And

1250
01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:44.239
<v Speaker 2>there are some people out there that are claiming that,

1251
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:47.479
<v Speaker 2>which is funny, even though they sit in somewhere in

1252
01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Central or South America and never go anywhere and seem to,

1253
01:15:51.119 --> 01:15:55.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, be proclaimed as the greatest journalists ever. I'm

1254
01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:00.159
<v Speaker 2>not talking about anybody in particular, am I anyway? You know,

1255
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:03.079
<v Speaker 2>and your book sales do well when nobody buys books.

1256
01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just you know, it remarkable anyway, and

1257
01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:09.560
<v Speaker 2>that was a couple of people. Now I just shot fired,

1258
01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:14.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, warning shots at But anyway, perce, I mean,

1259
01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:18.920
<v Speaker 2>this is not so unique, and yet maybe it is

1260
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:20.880
<v Speaker 2>a little and I think it's just going to disappear

1261
01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:24.199
<v Speaker 2>down the memory hole along with everything else. I mean,

1262
01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:28.239
<v Speaker 2>in the past less than nine months, we've had Trump

1263
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:34.800
<v Speaker 2>bomb Iran. Okay, literally, you know, tell people that no

1264
01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:39.039
<v Speaker 2>matter what Israel does, it's okay, screw Ukraine if the

1265
01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:42.680
<v Speaker 2>guy can't wear the right clothes and say thank you enough. Uh.

1266
01:16:43.079 --> 01:16:45.479
<v Speaker 2>And all of that has happened in less than nine months,

1267
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:49.760
<v Speaker 2>along with the big beautiful bill, the various tariffs that

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01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:52.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, he claims is making great progress for everybody,

1269
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:55.720
<v Speaker 2>even though your prices are still up all over the place,

1270
01:16:55.800 --> 01:16:58.840
<v Speaker 2>but he says eggs and gas are down. All of

1271
01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:01.319
<v Speaker 2>this has happened in nine month once. And I don't know,

1272
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:05.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't really see his support wavering. Matter of fact,

1273
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:07.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, sitting here in Georgia, and maybe it's because

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01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I am in a truly red state. You know, even

1275
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:16.439
<v Speaker 2>though people can play bulled, Lada's not read road blueoo Democrats,

1276
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:19.239
<v Speaker 2>And yet that doesn't account for the whole rest of

1277
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:22.720
<v Speaker 2>the state that is controlled top to bottom by the GOP.

1278
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:25.359
<v Speaker 2>But you know, maybe it's just because I'm sitting here,

1279
01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:29.279
<v Speaker 2>and I'm even sitting in an allegedly liberal area. They're

1280
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:33.159
<v Speaker 2>all for everything he's doing. And they've announced that recently

1281
01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:35.479
<v Speaker 2>we're going to see more ICE activity here, just like

1282
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:38.359
<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles and everywhere else. Get ready for that

1283
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:40.239
<v Speaker 2>ice is going to be in your face in your

1284
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:42.840
<v Speaker 2>community locally. They're making sure to let us know that,

1285
01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:45.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, same time they're going to Chicago and everywhere else.

1286
01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:49.800
<v Speaker 2>That couldn't be a coordinated agenda, couldn't. Anyway, I don't

1287
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:52.399
<v Speaker 2>even know of that many, you know, people that could

1288
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:55.479
<v Speaker 2>even be potentially illegals around here. There are a handful,

1289
01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:58.479
<v Speaker 2>But you know, Georgia I don't think is the hottest

1290
01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:01.039
<v Speaker 2>bed of it. But maybe it's. Maybe maybe I'm wrong,

1291
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:05.279
<v Speaker 2>and they'll pull out another one hundred thousand from here, Pierce,

1292
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:09.039
<v Speaker 2>But in real time, I think we're losing the thread

1293
01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:11.520
<v Speaker 2>on this and we're gonna lose the fight and they're

1294
01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:14.760
<v Speaker 2>going to bury something that you know, people like you

1295
01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:17.640
<v Speaker 2>and me said should be brought to the light, and

1296
01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:19.840
<v Speaker 2>they brought it to the light. But now they're going

1297
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:22.640
<v Speaker 2>to pull the rug right out from under the lamp.

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01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:26.399
<v Speaker 2>I think, But maybe I'm wrong. What's what's your way

1299
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:27.479
<v Speaker 2>of closing this one out?

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01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Well? I think maybe I'm just trying to be more

1301
01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:37.920
<v Speaker 1>optimistic in a very pessimistic and sort of negative environment

1302
01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that we all find ourselves in. But and I think

1303
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that what you're saying is is absolutely true and valid,

1304
01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:49.439
<v Speaker 1>and I think that it can certainly go that way.

1305
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:55.920
<v Speaker 1>But I still tend to maintain some hope that this

1306
01:18:56.119 --> 01:19:02.159
<v Speaker 1>story is too difficult to control, and I think that

1307
01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:06.439
<v Speaker 1>there will be more that will come out. It's not

1308
01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:08.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be I think what we all are hoping for.

1309
01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:11.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no client list, there's a smoking gun,

1310
01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:15.960
<v Speaker 1>something like that video evidence. But I don't think it's

1311
01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:18.800
<v Speaker 1>going to completely go away. I think it's going to

1312
01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:22.680
<v Speaker 1>make it harder just in a you know, on a

1313
01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:24.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of like personal level for him. I don't know

1314
01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that it's in an impact policy, but yeah, I don't know.

1315
01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm just I just tend to be a

1316
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:33.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit more optimistic. Maybe I don't know if that's

1317
01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:38.039
<v Speaker 1>quite the right word regarding this, but I think that

1318
01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I think the fact that it's even still an issue

1319
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:46.439
<v Speaker 1>now it is evidence of the power that it has.

1320
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:55.199
<v Speaker 1>And I think that while certainly his most ardent devotees

1321
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:59.840
<v Speaker 1>are have really demonstrated the lengths they're willing to go,

1322
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:04.800
<v Speaker 1>oh I'm not, I do wonder if they're I mean,

1323
01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Jeffree's memoir is going to be coming out soon. Her

1324
01:20:09.720 --> 01:20:12.800
<v Speaker 1>family has been, you know, speaking out a lot about

1325
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:18.000
<v Speaker 1>this and speaking out about these weird meetings with Maxwell

1326
01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and others, and I do I do wonder if at

1327
01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:27.680
<v Speaker 1>some point there will be you know, enough pressure there

1328
01:20:27.720 --> 01:20:30.359
<v Speaker 1>will become this sort of you know, the these sort

1329
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:32.439
<v Speaker 1>of drips and drabs that are coming. There will be

1330
01:20:32.760 --> 01:20:37.720
<v Speaker 1>enough that more will begin to come out, and it

1331
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:42.319
<v Speaker 1>will be really hard to control the narrative and and

1332
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:46.239
<v Speaker 1>of course they will probably just lie, deny it was

1333
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the other people, It wasn't me, This is all fabricated.

1334
01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:50.119
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

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01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:53.560
<v Speaker 1>For me, I think there there might be a breaking

1336
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:58.039
<v Speaker 1>point where where people are because you know, I think

1337
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes it's it's really easy to kind of view

1338
01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:03.760
<v Speaker 1>this world we live in where you know, all of

1339
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:07.760
<v Speaker 1>his supporters are cult members, and cult members have no

1340
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>free will. They're completely you know, we use this term

1341
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:16.279
<v Speaker 1>like brainwashed all the time. Other brainwashed. You can't you

1342
01:21:16.359 --> 01:21:19.399
<v Speaker 1>can't undo that. You know, they're crazy, my you know,

1343
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:22.239
<v Speaker 1>friends and relatives and all that. You know, they've completely

1344
01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:25.279
<v Speaker 1>gone over and I can't speak to them. And so

1345
01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:29.079
<v Speaker 1>and I think that there's no cult that that operates

1346
01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:34.520
<v Speaker 1>like that. There's that's impossible. You cannot control people to

1347
01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:38.359
<v Speaker 1>that degree every single day of their life. I mean,

1348
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:43.720
<v Speaker 1>even people deep in high control groups always have doubts.

1349
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:46.680
<v Speaker 1>That's you know, I mean that that's that's kind of

1350
01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:49.720
<v Speaker 1>like that that that can be part of the kind

1351
01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:55.239
<v Speaker 1>of pull and push and the control, but there's always doubts.

1352
01:21:55.399 --> 01:22:00.039
<v Speaker 1>And I think that we don't know the level to which.

1353
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:02.039
<v Speaker 2>This can be.

1354
01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Pushed to where these people are going to really begin

1355
01:22:07.880 --> 01:22:12.720
<v Speaker 1>to doubt, you know, the leader, the guru. So I

1356
01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:15.079
<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe that is is being a little bit

1357
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:17.319
<v Speaker 1>too optimistic, but that's that's just how I view this.

1358
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I I tend to think that there is an upper

1359
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:25.920
<v Speaker 1>limit to this. And you know, you can't fool all

1360
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:28.399
<v Speaker 1>the people all the time. That's that's sort of how

1361
01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I tend to look at this, but I might be

1362
01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:31.279
<v Speaker 1>completely wrong.

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01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, again, it's still my basic counterpoint. You

1364
01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:38.399
<v Speaker 2>don't have to pool all the people, you know, all

1365
01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:42.600
<v Speaker 2>you have to do is have a Any revolution is

1366
01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:44.640
<v Speaker 2>not based on a majority. You know, a lot of

1367
01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:48.600
<v Speaker 2>people think that revolutions changes for the better or for

1368
01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:51.199
<v Speaker 2>the worse, or based on a majority of people decide No,

1369
01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:58.199
<v Speaker 2>there's a small minority that sticks to it, and through fear,

1370
01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:02.840
<v Speaker 2>they have a bubble of people they influence. Through convenience,

1371
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:05.920
<v Speaker 2>they have a bubble of people they influence. And that's

1372
01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:08.439
<v Speaker 2>how that majority is built. Not all for the core

1373
01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:11.680
<v Speaker 2>of the people that believe it, but you know, the

1374
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:13.840
<v Speaker 2>people that are bending their knees in the corporate world,

1375
01:23:14.319 --> 01:23:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the people that are literally making the payments to the

1376
01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Trump Presidential Library, the people that are paying the fines

1377
01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:22.000
<v Speaker 2>and turning around because they want to be able to

1378
01:23:22.039 --> 01:23:25.039
<v Speaker 2>sell their company, the people that are et cetera. This

1379
01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:27.159
<v Speaker 2>is what we're at. You know, even the you know,

1380
01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:31.239
<v Speaker 2>the supported comedians are honest to this and that they're

1381
01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:34.039
<v Speaker 2>doing a Saudi Arabian event. Now you know what I'm saying,

1382
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:42.159
<v Speaker 2>This is transactional and reveals the real ugly about how

1383
01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:45.319
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't have principles, but they will

1384
01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:49.960
<v Speaker 2>act like they do, you know, and they're just looking

1385
01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:54.159
<v Speaker 2>for a new leader. That's all they're ever doing. So

1386
01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:58.359
<v Speaker 2>this is one of the time and I think somebody

1387
01:23:58.399 --> 01:24:01.279
<v Speaker 2>who is managing this for him, not him directly, I

1388
01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:04.680
<v Speaker 2>mean he knows how to, you know, just act as though.

1389
01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's that that guy that gets away with it.

1390
01:24:07.199 --> 01:24:10.720
<v Speaker 2>You ever see somebody in a store, in a movie

1391
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:16.279
<v Speaker 2>theater or whatever who gets away with doing something and

1392
01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:18.520
<v Speaker 2>you literally look at it and you go, how the

1393
01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:22.079
<v Speaker 2>hell did that happen? One hundred people could have tried

1394
01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:24.720
<v Speaker 2>that and would have never gotten away with it. You know,

1395
01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:27.479
<v Speaker 2>the guy that gets his food free at the restaurant

1396
01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:29.800
<v Speaker 2>because he made the right complaint to the right person,

1397
01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>and consistently, that guy does that because that's how he lives.

1398
01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:39.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, the guy that paid seventy five percent of

1399
01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:42.680
<v Speaker 2>what he could or sixty percent of what he had

1400
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:45.479
<v Speaker 2>to to get work done, and then turned around and

1401
01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:48.720
<v Speaker 2>failed to finish paying it off and then said sue

1402
01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:52.359
<v Speaker 2>me and then paid, you know, fifteen percent more of

1403
01:24:52.439 --> 01:24:56.039
<v Speaker 2>what he should have paid initially. He ends up with

1404
01:24:56.199 --> 01:25:00.560
<v Speaker 2>a fifteen percent discount across the board on the whole project.

1405
01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:03.520
<v Speaker 2>And I am talking about Trump and I am talking

1406
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:07.800
<v Speaker 2>about Atlantic City. Now right, this is the way it's done.

1407
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:12.119
<v Speaker 2>He's got a discount that he builds in through resistance,

1408
01:25:12.279 --> 01:25:14.319
<v Speaker 2>and fine, take me to court. I got all kinds

1409
01:25:14.319 --> 01:25:16.920
<v Speaker 2>of lawsuits. I don't care. I got lawyers that are

1410
01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:18.720
<v Speaker 2>on the car all the time. I don't pay them either.

1411
01:25:19.439 --> 01:25:24.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, it is amazing. So I don't know. I

1412
01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:28.039
<v Speaker 2>think that we weren't all prepared for this, the majority

1413
01:25:28.079 --> 01:25:32.640
<v Speaker 2>of us. So anyway, maybe I'm the pessimist and Pierce

1414
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:36.119
<v Speaker 2>is the optimist. Judge for yourselves, but go to Porkins

1415
01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Policy review dot com. Check out Pierce. I don't know

1416
01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:41.359
<v Speaker 2>how much you tweet anymore, but maybe I'll put your

1417
01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Twitter profile link in the show notes. Anyway, you know,

1418
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:48.520
<v Speaker 2>contact Piers, question them, ask him, you know, whatever it

1419
01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:51.680
<v Speaker 2>is you want to do. He'll handle it his way.

1420
01:25:53.359 --> 01:25:58.359
<v Speaker 2>And we haven't seen any new podcasts lately, but life

1421
01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:00.680
<v Speaker 2>sometimes gets in the way, and I'm kind of glad

1422
01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:05.560
<v Speaker 2>it has for you actually, So you know, I hope

1423
01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>that you have enjoyed these guys and appears anything you

1424
01:26:09.039 --> 01:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>want to say in closing. Ope, I guess I either

1425
01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:20.479
<v Speaker 2>lost them or something. All right, revel like sorry travel like,

1426
01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:26.399
<v Speaker 2>oh okay, I paused my music. Sorry you weren't there.

1427
01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:27.439
<v Speaker 2>I thought maybe I lost you.

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01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>No, I just I just muted my microphone for some reason.

1429
01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:34.039
<v Speaker 1>So no, I didn't know. Nothing much else to add

1430
01:26:35.439 --> 01:26:40.479
<v Speaker 1>just other than this. I just am fascinated that this

1431
01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>story has taken on the scope that it has, and

1432
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>it is just really it's amazing that something that was

1433
01:26:49.640 --> 01:26:54.199
<v Speaker 1>so kind of niche to me and other people and now,

1434
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:56.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're like I was sitting on the

1435
01:26:56.319 --> 01:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>train the other day and like looked over and it's

1436
01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:02.920
<v Speaker 1>someone I was like watching some stupid YouTube, you know,

1437
01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>all media influencer podcast talking about Epstein and I did.

1438
01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>That is just amazing. The reach that this story has

1439
01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>continue to have. And I think it's just because it's

1440
01:27:17.640 --> 01:27:20.039
<v Speaker 1>such a fascinating story. And again, as I said, I

1441
01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's really hard to control it. So yeah, I

1442
01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:25.640
<v Speaker 1>would just continue to kind of to look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and hopefully I might have some stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>this on my show, some new material as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent. Look, you know, you know you've crossed over when

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<v Speaker 2>we went from four or five podcasters literally in the

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<v Speaker 2>English speaking world talking about this some years back to

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Now it's everywhere and literally you can find

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein icebergs on YouTube. If you don't know what an

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<v Speaker 2>iceberg is, go check it out. It's pretty funny to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually do watch the icebergs to see what it

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<v Speaker 2>is people think are important. The iceberg concept that kills me.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, we have transitioned, that's for sure. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just like people question other transitions, is it a good one? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>That's up to you guys. Like I said, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I said before Pierson, I might have different opinions about this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think both of us are a little concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about the future of it one way or another. And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you will be too, but then again, maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we'll have to see. Amili o'celly, all of

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<v Speaker 2>you are the effect. Thanks Sage.

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<v Speaker 7>Here is In Denial the Secret Wars with air strikes

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<v Speaker 7>and Tanks by Larry Hancock. Secret wars became a staple

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<v Speaker 7>of US covert operations and are still happening today. Larry

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<v Speaker 7>Hancock's book In Denial rips the cover off.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of them, using new files.

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<v Speaker 8>It exposes things about the Bay of Pigs that no

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<v Speaker 8>one has ever written about before. It shows why it

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<v Speaker 8>really failed and why the United States did not learn

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<v Speaker 8>from it. It also shows why other countries today are

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<v Speaker 8>doing secret operations with more success. This is the book

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<v Speaker 8>that puts what some want to deny into the light.

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<v Speaker 8>In Denial secret wars with air strikes and tanks Larryhncock.

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<v Speaker 8>For more information, go to Larry hyphen Handcock dot com.

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<v Speaker 8>Pick up your copy of In Denial at Amazon dot

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<v Speaker 8>com in digital or physical form

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<v Speaker 1>Sush