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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, and for this week of August eleventh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're continuing with Lost season three, episode eleven, Enter seven seven,

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<v Speaker 1>not enter seventy seven, Enter seven seven, an episode which

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<v Speaker 1>asks the question, if you've been on a weird, mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>island for a while, and you've gone through a traumatic

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<v Speaker 1>time where hitting a button or not hitting a button

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<v Speaker 1>on a computer caused an explosion to turn the sky purple,

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<v Speaker 1>if you walked into another mysterious place and saw a

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<v Speaker 1>computer with a chess game on. Would your first thought

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<v Speaker 1>be surely like chess, I'll sit down at this computer

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<v Speaker 1>and start hitting keys.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck what you do with man? Well, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Going it's just a chess game. It's chess games are safe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, have you not seen war games? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is weird, Old Island. Nothing is exactly what it's seems, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I oh my gosh, not.

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<v Speaker 2>That yes, And then when it asks you to start

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<v Speaker 2>actually entering codes like that if you didn't get it already.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was on top of when he was in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of guarding a prisoner and he was just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he seems out pretty cold. I'm going to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to this chess game I was playing because I think

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<v Speaker 2>I can win.

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<v Speaker 1>Haroting tip. Screens are very addictive. Do not let your

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<v Speaker 1>kids get addicted to screens. They will make bad choices

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<v Speaker 1>that will put themselves and others in danger. Yeah, get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the iPad. Nothing good can come of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you think they're asleep and fully contained. As

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<v Speaker 2>we learned from Luna and Duster, they can surprise you

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<v Speaker 2>and move around when you weren't expecting it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the dramatic a plot where they find

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<v Speaker 1>this little farm looking place. I'm sure Vincent has been

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<v Speaker 1>by and you know, befrinted the cat and the horse right,

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<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of dramatic unplay and threats and counter

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<v Speaker 1>threats ensues. But also we learn that Sawyer has lost

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<v Speaker 1>his mojo money. You don't go in saying I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>super do for best ping pong player ever, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cream you. Guys. You go into the game going, what's this?

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<v Speaker 1>You take this paddle and the ball? I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>could do it. You're a con man, you are a

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<v Speaker 1>professional con artist? Yeah, what that you've got? Played by Hurley?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the juxtaposition walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the sea, now, man, I think it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>For the way that this comic relief plot was aligned

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<v Speaker 2>with the actual torture in the other plot was really

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<v Speaker 2>quite jarring. Like, hey, let's play ping pong and Sawyer's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a little pony tail and he's going to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get his come up.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I just couldn't even enjoy the come up.

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<v Speaker 1>And because it was so obviously coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was very clear, and.

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<v Speaker 1>And he just walked into it like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>a guy walking into a wall. Come on, what's I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's been a stressful time. He's worried about Kate.

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<v Speaker 1>That's yes, that's true, but he knows he knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to to to hustle better than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he thought that was the best way to get

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<v Speaker 2>his stuff back. He was sorry, mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. And how many more episodes Untilnicky and Pollall were gone?

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<v Speaker 1>Those people keep getting on my nerves, acting like they

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<v Speaker 1>belong there, like they've been there all along. Yeah, only

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more episodes on that mine. But anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>in this uh, in this episode, said uh recalls an

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<v Speaker 1>incident of mercy, and so, therefore I guess is merciful

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<v Speaker 1>towards Mikhail mm hmmm, an action that I will not

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<v Speaker 1>go into much detail, but I assume will not surprise you.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have a consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess I am not surprised to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Russeo's like, dude, you take your chance when you've got it,

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<v Speaker 2>shoot your shot.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, she could have just shot him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have believed her. I was saying, Oh, for

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<v Speaker 1>goodness sake, right, why are you trusting these people. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the matter with you? It's the heat getting to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, Yeah, And were we supposed to think that that

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<v Speaker 2>was like, somehow the same cat because it really looked

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<v Speaker 2>the same.

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<v Speaker 1>It did look the same, though, though it's difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>see how it could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But this is lost, so it could be.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's I mean, every individual cat is loved by

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<v Speaker 1>hideous deformity, then if you could say that it was

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<v Speaker 2>But I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just supposed to think it make him

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<v Speaker 1>think generally of cats, right, and of that yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>of that woman that time when he was set up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, this is teach your children. If it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>too good to be true, it probably is. A random

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<v Speaker 2>pay you double.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially if you know that you personally have a

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<v Speaker 1>history of torturing people, you might just always kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Right, this is true.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked Rousseau's approach to them finding this guy and

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<v Speaker 1>they're all going to go and engage, and she says,

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<v Speaker 1>I have survived on this island precisely by avoiding these encounters.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, parenting tip, you don't have to pick every fight.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to get involved in everything every you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every misbehavior that your child does. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>go into it with guns blazing. Every offense by somebody

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<v Speaker 1>at a PTA meeting or a teacher does something you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like, you don't have to. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>pick every fight. You can lay low for a while

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<v Speaker 1>and pick your battles at the very least.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Kate maybe needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Kate could use that advice as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Usso has managed to survive for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't look like she's been having a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But what she is a good game of ping ping pong, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe some chess. Just the game for you here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I mean the whole Russo thing. It's confusing

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<v Speaker 2>to me, Like, as we were talking about last week,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it seems like she was kind of surprised

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<v Speaker 2>to learn that her daughter is nearby hanging out with

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<v Speaker 2>the others when she in earlier episodes seemed pretty clear

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<v Speaker 2>on that fact. Right, And but if she knows where they're, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>and just if she does, like know where they are,

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<v Speaker 2>why hasn't she had this confrontation with them? Yes, fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. If she knew that her daughter was there,

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<v Speaker 1>or confronted them? Right, So she must not have known.

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<v Speaker 1>But how could she not, Well, because she avoids confrontation.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just been off by herself.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ask too many questions, Yeah, delicate web and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, and maybe it has to do with all

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<v Speaker 2>this like quarantine business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's yeah, it will all eventually be explained, possibly

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<v Speaker 1>not to your satisfaction, nonetheless, right, And they they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking around the hatch, and they find a shelf full

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<v Speaker 1>of the kind of instruction manuals you would find in

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<v Speaker 1>an office, with like a notebook.

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<v Speaker 2>And three ring binder three ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Binders with different titles on them, stuck down through a

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<v Speaker 1>plastic thing in the front. And even even in this

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<v Speaker 1>desolate outpost of civilization, there's still somebody with a word

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<v Speaker 1>processor and a copy machine, whole punch or three whole puncher,

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<v Speaker 1>and here study up on this.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be important. Some site is.

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<v Speaker 1>The one who site is the one who took I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the one page? Did he just take one page

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<v Speaker 1>out of it? Because good man, that's right. But if

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<v Speaker 1>Locke knew those were there, he would have like the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the season and half the next season.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, Oh gosh, that just gave me such flashbacks to

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<v Speaker 1>former former employers. Yeah, I've been in that room that

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<v Speaker 1>has the big note books of instructional material in them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they've done that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, what else? So we we saw for a

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<v Speaker 2>brief time missus Mss Clues right, who we had last

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<v Speaker 2>seen at the at the dock, having being involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the hooded transfer of prisoners and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>She just stuck called to be shot. Yeah, I can't cooperated.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I didn't understand. You know, of course, maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>she's just tired of all this bleak.

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<v Speaker 2>Just shoot me right. Well, Michael said the.

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<v Speaker 1>Same that's right. Michael would have liked the same treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>but fortunately he asked the wrong people.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, say, just having a morality day. Yeah, oh gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what this is a parenting tip for

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<v Speaker 1>the future that will be played out in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>is that good deeds sometimes have bad consequences. Yes, so

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<v Speaker 1>especially Yeah, sometimes you do something that you think is

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<v Speaker 1>upsetting when that that cycle makes it around. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't see it at the beginning. It's like a chess game.

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<v Speaker 1>All the pieces are gonna fall.

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<v Speaker 2>The metaphor.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't hit the keys of random computers, why oh

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<v Speaker 1>why is gonna bother me now? And anything else to say.

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<v Speaker 1>This was sort of a straightforward episode. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>some not that far from things we've seen before, and

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<v Speaker 1>the lashbacks which yeah, we kind of know this about, Sayid,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the comic relief which you could see a

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<v Speaker 1>mile comment how that was going to work itself out?

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<v Speaker 1>So all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Hurley saying I used to play a lot

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<v Speaker 2>at the place I hung out, which the mental institution rights.

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<v Speaker 2>What he did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, I don't want to give Sawyer that nickname for

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<v Speaker 1>when his curfew is up.

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<v Speaker 2>That was also another funny bit that that's what they wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes for a victory was no nicknames for a week.

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<v Speaker 2>You should have held out for more. He was really

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<v Speaker 2>he would have agreed to forever because he had absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>Know, that's just I Sawyer's better than that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>and that just struck gests.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. And Kate has pieced out to go find Jack. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and at the beginning of the episode, sights and something like,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been walking for two days or some like length

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, we do a lot of walking around this

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of walking around this place in

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<v Speaker 1>the how many episodes that we had, now, how many

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<v Speaker 2>Season three, it's been like that two and.

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<v Speaker 1>A half seasons of walking around this island. And they

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they keep finding stock.

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<v Speaker 1>How big is this island?

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<v Speaker 1>Of the first things to do after you realize you're

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they start looking around.

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<v Speaker 1>That does not seem to have occurred. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't stop them when they have some mission that they

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<v Speaker 1>want to go on that they just go dashing through

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<v Speaker 1>the right jungle, right. You know, they could pot they

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<v Speaker 1>had some sort of tracker which they don't have. They

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<v Speaker 1>could put it on Vincent and just send nowt I

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<v Speaker 1>bet he could map. I bet he's been to every

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<v Speaker 1>part of that island. I bet he's met that cat

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<v Speaker 1>yep and had words or you know, possibly snuggled. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>animals enjoy each other. But yeah, they not know how

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<v Speaker 1>can they come upon I mean I can see like

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<v Speaker 1>an underground bunker that they could miss, but that place

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<v Speaker 1>there's a cow with a cowbell.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not lying low No. And also this they're now

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly on their way to some kind of barracks. Like again,

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<v Speaker 2>that seems like a large, you know, conspicuous ye area,

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<v Speaker 2>does it not.

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<v Speaker 1>It does, yes, but most of these folks are with

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<v Speaker 1>us to the end of the show, so somehow they manage, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. Parenting tip. Know the parameters of

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<v Speaker 1>your living area. Know what areas are safe for your

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<v Speaker 1>children to be in, what areas are not. Don't just

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be just kind of winging.

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<v Speaker 1>It exactly, you know, because your kid is probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get out and look for things, and you need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to know the terrain right.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be able to say, I bet he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing chess over at that weird bunker with cat with

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<v Speaker 1>the cow bell. I better get over there before he

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<v Speaker 1>hits seven to seven.

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<v Speaker 2>And the whole thing explodes. Oh boy, once again John

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<v Speaker 2>Locke four decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, yes, that is absolutely the hallmark of his

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<v Speaker 1>or the theme of his story. A dude who makes

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<v Speaker 1>bad decisions, and we'll continue to do so because it's

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<v Speaker 1>who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Who don't say.

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<v Speaker 1>Next Tuesday, we will continue with season three, episode twelve

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<v Speaker 1>of Lost par La Villon, which is I believe a

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<v Speaker 1>Claire flashback episode. Remember Claire, Oh yeah, she's not gonna die.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Charlie who's gonna die. But since she's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a close proximity to Charlie most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>got to learn to duck. And we will see you

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<v Speaker 1>back here tomorrow to discuss the Gilded Age, in which

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<v Speaker 1>Gladys would probably very much like to be on this

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<v Speaker 1>island right now and not have to deal with any

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<v Speaker 1>part of her life. Thank you for listening. You can

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